Here are the most interesting comments that were posted after I quit for the evening and the comment section closed Seems that the nasty French man Marc Martin wanted the last word. Nesy Pas?
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Marc Martin
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
Commonwealth games, open to all! French funding of 31 groups in NB open to the select few. Bad choice of comparisons. Shows your a French flag waver with little understanding of the change that's coming. Keep spewing the BS! Your elitist days are numbered
Commonwealth games, open to all! French funding of 31 groups in NB open to the select few. Bad choice of comparisons. Shows your a French flag waver with little understanding of the change that's coming. Keep spewing the BS! Your elitist days are numbered
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
Commonwealth game are British English...and thy are only opened to countries that are part of the commonwealth...
Commonwealth game are British English...and thy are only opened to countries that are part of the commonwealth...
Marc Martin
@David Raymond Amos
Did someone yank your chain ?
Did someone yank your chain ?
@David Raymond Amos
*Do you have a problem with folks from Sussex?*
Do you have problems with the French population ...oh wait yeah you do,you also have a problem with every government department in Canada...
*Do you have a problem with folks from Sussex?*
Do you have problems with the French population ...oh wait yeah you do,you also have a problem with every government department in Canada...
Marc Martin
@David Raymond Amos
I didn't know there was taxe payers in Sussex, how many people live there 20 ?
I didn't know there was taxe payers in Sussex, how many people live there 20 ?
Marc Martin
@David Raymond Amos
To translate document ? Do I need to draw you a raw picture or people from Sussex can understand that simple phrase ?
To translate document ? Do I need to draw you a raw picture or people from Sussex can understand that simple phrase ?
Marc Martin
@David Raymond Amos
Im curious until what grade did you attend school ?
Im curious until what grade did you attend school ?
Roland Godin
@Harold Fitzgerald
And you can segregate yourself in la langue de votre choix...eh.
And you can segregate yourself in la langue de votre choix...eh.
Matt Steele
Just another poorly thought
out screw up by the Brian Gallant govt.......it never seems to end .
N.B. ; one of the smallest and poorest Provinces in Canada was chosen as
the test subject for the failed social experiment of Official
Bilingualism .Yet we remain the only Officially Bilingual Province in
Canada because the other Provinces have seen what a failed social
experiment it really was . If it was such a great idea , all the
Provinces would be Officially Bilingual .
Roland Godin
@Matt Steele
Average weekly earnings PEI 800$, NS 835$, NB 855$...et voilà.
Average weekly earnings PEI 800$, NS 835$, NB 855$...et voilà.
New Brunswick grapples with getting best returns on education investment
Grits and Tories differ on education budget goals
By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Nov 14, 2016 6:00 AM AT89 Comments
Mack Leigh
This province cannot afford
two health care systems and two education systems. In a province of
approximately 750,000 people why do we keep pandering to a small
minority who openly promotes segregation and favouritism ??? Our
children are being used as pawns in this game of buying votes and our
children are the ones who ultimately pay the price. Enough of this
nonsense !!
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh
*This province cannot afford two health care systems*
The only money you can save from this is the top ranked employees, you will still need the same amount of people to do the work.
*two education systems*
Not going away, its mandated by the Federal government of Canada to protect the French population of assimilation.
*This province cannot afford two health care systems*
The only money you can save from this is the top ranked employees, you will still need the same amount of people to do the work.
*two education systems*
Not going away, its mandated by the Federal government of Canada to protect the French population of assimilation.
Jim Moore
@Marc Martin The federal
government says French and English are mandated not that they have to
have different school buses and schools for each, what you have said is
not at all factual.
William Roberts
@Marc Martin If your only
ties to culture is the language you are fighting a loosing battle. What
are the kids hearing at home and on the street. Bieber and Swift?
Marc Martin
@William Roberts
Kids speak French, listen to both language, the battle has been over for a while, we won these rights sorry bud.
Kids speak French, listen to both language, the battle has been over for a while, we won these rights sorry bud.
Roland Godin
@Mack Leigh
Having a hard time to pay your share, we are caring and sharing if needed we would provide whatever expertise we can to support your community of interest...et voilà.
Having a hard time to pay your share, we are caring and sharing if needed we would provide whatever expertise we can to support your community of interest...et voilà.
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
Keep telling yourself the language battle is over. It's just starting and the money wasted on dual education systems that give NBs children no benefit, in fact disastrous results is only one of the many reasons why
Keep telling yourself the language battle is over. It's just starting and the money wasted on dual education systems that give NBs children no benefit, in fact disastrous results is only one of the many reasons why
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
*Keep telling yourself the language battle is over*
Oh I know the minority pro-English side will be complaining for the next 100 years, the battle is over tough concerning education, education Is protected by the Federal government of Canada.
*Keep telling yourself the language battle is over*
Oh I know the minority pro-English side will be complaining for the next 100 years, the battle is over tough concerning education, education Is protected by the Federal government of Canada.
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
Keep telling yourself it's carved in stone if I makes you feel better. Change is coming to NBs language laws
Keep telling yourself it's carved in stone if I makes you feel better. Change is coming to NBs language laws
@Harold Fitzgerald
Education is :)
Education is :)
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
That's Utter nonsense. There are hundreds of millions to be saved by NB becoming an English Province. Having one unilingual English education system would save the taxpayer millions and do a lot to end the elitist ideals of a select few
That's Utter nonsense. There are hundreds of millions to be saved by NB becoming an English Province. Having one unilingual English education system would save the taxpayer millions and do a lot to end the elitist ideals of a select few
Harold Fitzgerald
@Roland Godin
The Province is running out of money thanks to supporting duality and is having a tough time paying for the elite few. You make a good point.
The Province is running out of money thanks to supporting duality and is having a tough time paying for the elite few. You make a good point.
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
There is hundred of millions to b saved if the province would become French only, so what's you point ?
*Having one unilingual English education system would save the taxpayer millions *
Having on unilingual French education system would also save the taxpayers millions, so what's you point ?
There is hundred of millions to b saved if the province would become French only, so what's you point ?
*Having one unilingual English education system would save the taxpayer millions *
Having on unilingual French education system would also save the taxpayers millions, so what's you point ?
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
My point is that Stats Canada says less than 5% of NB is unilingual French and it's absurd to continue to support duality and bilingualism in a province that's not really bilingual. Thank you for asking. I'm sure you understand now and will no longer support duality and bilingualism
My point is that Stats Canada says less than 5% of NB is unilingual French and it's absurd to continue to support duality and bilingualism in a province that's not really bilingual. Thank you for asking. I'm sure you understand now and will no longer support duality and bilingualism
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
Lets do this you want to save money? Lets make everything French, not so funny when the table is turned eh. I fully support bilingualism and duality, but its ok I understand you cant, you need a certain level of intellect to understand these type of topics.
Lets do this you want to save money? Lets make everything French, not so funny when the table is turned eh. I fully support bilingualism and duality, but its ok I understand you cant, you need a certain level of intellect to understand these type of topics.
@Marc Martin
You're right it's not funny. The idea of making everything French in a province where 70% of the population is unilingual English and over 95% of the population is not funny it's patently absurd nonsense that adds nothing to the discussion of how to make the reading results of our children better. It's not funny, it's ridiculously elitist and sickening. You're a cheerleader for a failed social experiment. You like the Gallant government are devoid of solutions to the problems bilingualism has caused our children. You can't even bring yourself to acknowledge the problem.
You're right it's not funny. The idea of making everything French in a province where 70% of the population is unilingual English and over 95% of the population is not funny it's patently absurd nonsense that adds nothing to the discussion of how to make the reading results of our children better. It's not funny, it's ridiculously elitist and sickening. You're a cheerleader for a failed social experiment. You like the Gallant government are devoid of solutions to the problems bilingualism has caused our children. You can't even bring yourself to acknowledge the problem.
David Raymond Amos
@Harold Fitzgerald I agree. I
hope you know that you are arguing with an overpaid bureaucrat who has a
job because of this nonsense.
1 hour ago
David Raymond Amos
@Harold Fitzgerald Methinks I
will send an email to our proud French employee Marc Martin asking him
to translate my barring notice from the parliamentary properties by our
French Sgt at Arms and his Aides De Campe on behalf of our French Lt
Governor. Martin should also translate my lawsuit against our English
Queen. After he has done that he can read the documents real slow to our
French Prime Minister, His regional French Minister, our French
Premier, our French Attorney General and our French Minister of Justice.
Then they should all ask our French Minister of Health if I am crazy or
not in order that the Crown may reply to me ASAP in English N'esy Pas
Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly?
Jim Moore
Get rid of segregation in our
schools and bus systems and save hundreds of millions, They call is
duality and try to pass it off as the only real form of bilingualism,
but most see it for what it really is, segregation, which would be
illegal if we were to force white and black kids to ride different buses, I don't see the
difference, NB has always been backwards, Having both in one school and
both on the same buses would be bilingual, like the other provincial
offices that will serve you in either French or English and its your
right, unlike New Brunswick. Shame on NB, Its not at all about
preserving French roots, its about intolerance, besides NB is over 75%
English as a first language and most of the funding goes to the French
system
Marc Martin
@Jim Moore
*schools and bus systems and save hundreds of millions*
Not going to happen, the Federal government of Canada says its mandatory in every province of Canada.
*besides NB is over 75% English as a first language and most of the funding goes to the French system.*
Its actually 68% English try again. But since we are talking about funding why does the English population of NB(68%) have 73% of the schools in NB ?
*schools and bus systems and save hundreds of millions*
Not going to happen, the Federal government of Canada says its mandatory in every province of Canada.
*besides NB is over 75% English as a first language and most of the funding goes to the French system.*
Its actually 68% English try again. But since we are talking about funding why does the English population of NB(68%) have 73% of the schools in NB ?
Mack Leigh
@Marc Martin
There is only 3 - 5 % of the people in this province who speak French only !!! Demanding that everything be done in both languages is absolutely absurd and goes against all common sense. All other New Brunswickers of ALL other languages and cultures seem to be able to do just fine without all of the preferential treatment and excessive funding. This is nothing more than trying to appease a group of self-serving , " Entltled Elites " and it needs to stop.
There is only 3 - 5 % of the people in this province who speak French only !!! Demanding that everything be done in both languages is absolutely absurd and goes against all common sense. All other New Brunswickers of ALL other languages and cultures seem to be able to do just fine without all of the preferential treatment and excessive funding. This is nothing more than trying to appease a group of self-serving , " Entltled Elites " and it needs to stop.
Jake Keating
@Marc Martin You talk like
the constitution is like some document sent down from the tops of Mt.
Sanai. It's man-made, and that 1993 March amendment (don't recall a
public discussion on the issue, could be wrong) can be looked at any
time if there is an appetite for it.
Jim Moore
@Marc Martin It most
certainly does NOT say federally that French and English systems are to
be separate and have separate schools and buses, its quite the opposite
actually, what it actually says is that all students have ACCESS to both
French and English, what you said is not at all factual or true, you
are very misinformed
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh
*There is only 3 - 5 % of the people in this province who speak French only *
But according to you and some of the commentator of this website we cannot speak proper English so which one is it ?
*all of the preferential treatment and excessive funding*
What preferential treatment ? What excessive funding ?
*There is only 3 - 5 % of the people in this province who speak French only *
But according to you and some of the commentator of this website we cannot speak proper English so which one is it ?
*all of the preferential treatment and excessive funding*
What preferential treatment ? What excessive funding ?
Marc Martin
@Jake Keating
*and that 1993 March amendment *
Duality is mandatory in school systems across Canada not only in NB.
*and that 1993 March amendment *
Duality is mandatory in school systems across Canada not only in NB.
Marc Martin
@Jim Moore
* It most certainly does NOT say federally that French and English systems are to be separate*
Yes it does, in fact its mandatory across Canada in every province where both language is present.
*what you said is not at all factual or true, you are very misinformed*
Not at all, both language are protected in the chart.
* It most certainly does NOT say federally that French and English systems are to be separate*
Yes it does, in fact its mandatory across Canada in every province where both language is present.
*what you said is not at all factual or true, you are very misinformed*
Not at all, both language are protected in the chart.
Mack Leigh
@Marc Martin
Surely you are not that obtuse ?? You know e--x--a--c--t--l--y what I am referring to by preferential treatment and excessive funding.
Surely you are not that obtuse ?? You know e--x--a--c--t--l--y what I am referring to by preferential treatment and excessive funding.
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh
Not at all, what preferential treatment and excessive funding do we receive that you don't ?
Not at all, what preferential treatment and excessive funding do we receive that you don't ?
Roland Godin
@Jim Moore
Spinning has worked with Trump...eh.
Spinning has worked with Trump...eh.
Dennis Colter Pugh
@Marc Martin But Marc you do
write and no doubt speak perfect English.... so what is the big deal?
You can still have your vibrant culture in any language you want.
Roland Godin
@Dennis Colter Pugh
Discernment/discernement spells almost the same in both langues officielles, check it out, you can still have your vibrant culture in any language de votre choix...eh.
Discernment/discernement spells almost the same in both langues officielles, check it out, you can still have your vibrant culture in any language de votre choix...eh.
Marc Martin
@Dennis Colter Pugh
*But Marc you do write and no doubt speak perfect English*
Stop being sarcastic no I don't, but I do try.
*But Marc you do write and no doubt speak perfect English*
Stop being sarcastic no I don't, but I do try.
Dan Lee
@Marc Martin
Better yet you have put in an effort......congrats......unlike some whiners................
Better yet you have put in an effort......congrats......unlike some whiners................
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
It doesn't seem to me that you're worried about education results at all, only language.
It doesn't seem to me that you're worried about education results at all, only language.
@Marc Martin
Are you telling us you don't receive any benefit from being bilingual?
Are you telling us you don't receive any benefit from being bilingual?
Lou Bell
@Marc Martin You may have less schools but they are much larger, and many half full ! We KNOW !
Lou Bell
@Marc Martin Not English here, and NOT English in Quebec !!! False !
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
It does not worry m because my kids are ding great in school. :)
It does not worry m because my kids are ding great in school. :)
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
If you call having a job with the Federal government a benefits.....
If you call having a job with the Federal government a benefits.....
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell
Hall full really ? I am noticing the same thing with the 18 English school in Fredericton care to explain ?
Hall full really ? I am noticing the same thing with the 18 English school in Fredericton care to explain ?
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell
Did you go to an English school in NB ? Because with this ^ I have no idea what you are talking about...
Did you go to an English school in NB ? Because with this ^ I have no idea what you are talking about...
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
Here's 6 million the French got. I could find you millions more but you should do your own research before you post here, uniformed, again
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/iga-aig/pdf/POLS-Agreement2009-2013-e.pdf
Here's 6 million the French got. I could find you millions more but you should do your own research before you post here, uniformed, again
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/iga-aig/pdf/POLS-Agreement2009-2013-e.pdf
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
You have no idea about a lot, like how do we provide a better education and improve the reading ability of NBs English speaking schoolchildren. Many have suggested NB needs to scrap its language legislation and focus on fundamentals. What are your ideas outside of monotonously cheerleading duality?
You have no idea about a lot, like how do we provide a better education and improve the reading ability of NBs English speaking schoolchildren. Many have suggested NB needs to scrap its language legislation and focus on fundamentals. What are your ideas outside of monotonously cheerleading duality?
@Harold Fitzgerald
Heritage Canada helps anything related to culture, in fact they gave 10 millions for the commonwealth games in Toronto are these games French oh wait they are English !!! I know my facts and unlike you I know the Federal departments....
Heritage Canada helps anything related to culture, in fact they gave 10 millions for the commonwealth games in Toronto are these games French oh wait they are English !!! I know my facts and unlike you I know the Federal departments....
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
Im sure th majority of parents does no want immersion to go away in fact some right now are fighting to have it install in every school. Language legislation has nothing to do with the kids not being able to read, the problem is right now that the educational curriculum is done by politicians, it should be done by teachers.
Im sure th majority of parents does no want immersion to go away in fact some right now are fighting to have it install in every school. Language legislation has nothing to do with the kids not being able to read, the problem is right now that the educational curriculum is done by politicians, it should be done by teachers.
Dawn R Ferguson
The sad thing in all of this
debate is that you have politicians who know nothing about education
processes trying to score political points by focusing on money. No
question that money is an issue but the underlying problem is poor
qualify instruction and learning. The education system/curriculum has
become burdened with a lot of content that does nothing to enable basic
literacy and numeracy skills. Lamenting the poor test scores while
giving political speeches is the New Brunswick way - now and forever,
amen. It's time for the politicians to get out of the way and let the
educators plan the system.
Frank Knowles
@Dawn R Ferguson
What we need is to stop passing everyone, and stop making every little one feel like they are special. It sounds mean I know but there motivation in school not to be the kid in 3rd grade for the 3rd time or the 20 year old in grade 10. Nobody wanted to be that kid. How did you figure out if you were on that route, you got a failing grade. Homework also needs to be a focus. I graduated just before 2000. There was always homework and it helped to reinforce a the lessons. Stop trying to come up with new ways to teach literature and math. Times tables and ABC's worked for decades
What we need is to stop passing everyone, and stop making every little one feel like they are special. It sounds mean I know but there motivation in school not to be the kid in 3rd grade for the 3rd time or the 20 year old in grade 10. Nobody wanted to be that kid. How did you figure out if you were on that route, you got a failing grade. Homework also needs to be a focus. I graduated just before 2000. There was always homework and it helped to reinforce a the lessons. Stop trying to come up with new ways to teach literature and math. Times tables and ABC's worked for decades
Shawn McShane
@Dawn R Ferguson The
underlying problem is poor quality instruction and learning. Does the
inclusion policy have anything to do with that? As an example,
Arseneault recently described a high school English class, only two
could read at grade level and most were struggling with learning
disabilities or mental health issues.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/inclusive-classrooms-standardised-tests-scores-1.3830709
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/education-paul-bennett-inclusion-new-brunswick-1.3839587
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/inclusive-classrooms-standardised-tests-scores-1.3830709
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/education-paul-bennett-inclusion-new-brunswick-1.3839587
Joseph Vacher
@Dawn R Ferguson
Ie. mandatory french classes for anglophone... imagine if that time was spend learning something usefull? perhaps a basic finance and common sense 1000
Ie. mandatory french classes for anglophone... imagine if that time was spend learning something usefull? perhaps a basic finance and common sense 1000
Dawn R Ferguson
@Shawn McShane That's the
bogey man in the closet. Literacy and numeracy skill performance is a
combination of many factors and inclusion is not the biggest. But it is
the easiest target.
Dawn R Ferguson
@Joseph Vacher Having facility with a second language is a gift.
Harold Fitzgerald
@Dawn R Ferguson
It's been a gift from NBs taxpayers for far too long
It's been a gift from NBs taxpayers for far too long
Mario Doucet
The government is trying to
teach English speaking students in French for what reason? No wonder the
test scores are so poor, what else would you expect, the students hear
English only all the time they are not immersed in that classroom
environment. Same goes for the French students, everything is English
outside of school.
Marc Martin
@Mario Doucet
*The government is trying to teach English speaking students in French for what reason*
Because people like you complain the English population don't have any opportunities to apply for a government job ?
*everything is English outside of school*
Speak for yourself, I live in Fredericton and at work I speak in French 90% of the time, not at work I speak 95% in French only.
*The government is trying to teach English speaking students in French for what reason*
Because people like you complain the English population don't have any opportunities to apply for a government job ?
*everything is English outside of school*
Speak for yourself, I live in Fredericton and at work I speak in French 90% of the time, not at work I speak 95% in French only.
leo leblanc
@Marc Martin What we really
need is a political party to reinstate NB as an English province and
support Quebec as being a French province. Changes can be made to the
constitution to accommodate the majority.
Marc Martin
@leo leblanc
*What we really need is a political party to reinstate NB as an English province*
Good luck with that, it does not take an University degree to know that the province will not go back to the 1700.
*Changes can be made to the constitution to accommodate the majority.*
The majority elected a government that supports bilingualism.
*What we really need is a political party to reinstate NB as an English province*
Good luck with that, it does not take an University degree to know that the province will not go back to the 1700.
*Changes can be made to the constitution to accommodate the majority.*
The majority elected a government that supports bilingualism.
Roland Godin
@Mario Doucet
The mostly use language is a basic dialect from the southern lot good to order a hamburger, not to be compared to the English language...eh.
The mostly use language is a basic dialect from the southern lot good to order a hamburger, not to be compared to the English language...eh.
Jef Cronkhite
@Marc Martin WHAT good does
it do? We have graduates leaving High School, after taking French
Immersion, and being told their French isn't good enough for Government
Bilingual positions.
Explain the sense in THAT? We spend MILLIONS to get these kids ready, and then tell them they aren't ready!
Explain the sense in THAT? We spend MILLIONS to get these kids ready, and then tell them they aren't ready!
reginald churchill
@Marc Martin ......I would
assume from your comment that you are a politician. The time I have
spent in Fredericton with the working population I spoke and heard only
English .
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
The majority had no choice as both the Liberals and the Conservatives have been pandering for generations. Now whe have Kris Austin and the PANB, the next Trump
The majority had no choice as both the Liberals and the Conservatives have been pandering for generations. Now whe have Kris Austin and the PANB, the next Trump
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill
Its time for you to get out of your home, Fredericton as a vibrant community, it also had to build a new school because the other one was too full.
Its time for you to get out of your home, Fredericton as a vibrant community, it also had to build a new school because the other one was too full.
Marc Martin
@Jef Cronkhite
*We have graduates leaving High School, after taking French Immersion, and being told their French isn't good enough for Government Bilingual positions. *
Its the same for both language, I myself had to pay for my own English courses done trough phone with a University professor, that is not because of duality, the education curriculum must be created by educators not by politicians.
*We have graduates leaving High School, after taking French Immersion, and being told their French isn't good enough for Government Bilingual positions. *
Its the same for both language, I myself had to pay for my own English courses done trough phone with a University professor, that is not because of duality, the education curriculum must be created by educators not by politicians.
reginald churchill
@Marc Martin .... not sure
what that little rant was about, I only stated that I only heard and
spoke English within the working population of Fredericton. I said
nothing about Fredericton not being vibrant.
5 hours ago
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill
*The time I have spent in Fredericton with the working population I spoke and heard only English .*
This does state your saying you never heard any French....
*The time I have spent in Fredericton with the working population I spoke and heard only English .*
This does state your saying you never heard any French....
Harold Fitzgerald
@Marc Martin
Never ever ever ever unless it was a government employee
Never ever ever ever unless it was a government employee
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
I speak French to everyone every day, and I work in Fredericton center, you must be talking about Sussex.
I speak French to everyone every day, and I work in Fredericton center, you must be talking about Sussex.
David Raymond Amos
@Marc Martin Do you have a problem with folks from Sussex?
Charles Foster
We are trying to drive a
Cadillac on a ditch diggers salary. The duality in NB is costing the
people to the extent that we have moved into the area of close to
$18,000 per capita as a share of our provincial debt. If this is
combined with one company having a nearly tax free status, we have a
recipe for disaster. If we continue the duality approach we will see
many bright young people leave the province and if our negative
population growth continues we are doomed. Statistics Canada says while
Canada has grown by a million people in the last three years, New
Brunswick has shrunk by 3,497. That's equivalent to the entire
population of the Town of Dalhousie, and double the decline experienced
by Canada's other two shrinking provinces — Nova Scotia and Newfoundland
and Labrador. We had over 7000 deaths last year with less than 4000
births. 2700 people moved into the province but 3400 left.
Shawn McShane
@Charles Foster The real duality in NB is The Empire and The Government. We can't afford both.
Roland Godin
@Charles Foster
Agree with you cut English as an official language costing 62% of the budget, no more duality...et voilà.
Agree with you cut English as an official language costing 62% of the budget, no more duality...et voilà.
david herman
So, so sad to see this province stuck on 'bi-lingualism' and not on it's future citizens.
john bourque
Some have friends who build
roads others have friends who supply the hospitals... that's how it
works. How can a system work that doesn't even print it's own money, but
instead let's some super secret family do it. Idiots and crooks.
TammyLondon
This a red flag. Grade 6
Anglophone students performing so poorly in literacy, in my opinion,
has a direct link to the Intensive French program being forced for the
past 8 years. In the Anglophone system you are either in French immersion or, even in the
English system, in 5th grade you spend a full half of your year in
intensive French. This means for over half the year these students
take ZERO instruction in English literacy! That is a direct correlation
and I don't see how they can possibly ignore that
Jef Cronkhite
We can protect our two
cultures without paying double for everything! That's a politician's
TRICK to say we need TWO health boards, TWO education boards. or two of
anything! Children LEARN the same way, regardless of the language they
speak,. there is no need for TWO separate School Boards!
No one YET has been able to explain to me how disease affects a person differently based on the language they speak. There IS NO difference. WHY, then, do we think we need a different Health Board for each language? That makes NO SENSE! That's like saying that French people get a different form of heart disease from English people, or that cancer affects English people differently than those who speak French.
Every dollar we spend NEEDLESSLY on duality, is a dollar that cannot be used for something IMPORTANT, like schooling or job creation.
If Government insists on maintaining TWO separate systems, then WE, as citizens, should demand DUAL TAXATION as well. Tax the English and French separately. Money to run French health boards, French School Boards, etc, will come out of the French Taxation base, and English programs, similarly, will be funded from the English taxation base.
This nonsense of spending money TWICE for the same services is crazier than a soup sandwich!« less
No one YET has been able to explain to me how disease affects a person differently based on the language they speak. There IS NO difference. WHY, then, do we think we need a different Health Board for each language? That makes NO SENSE! That's like saying that French people get a different form of heart disease from English people, or that cancer affects English people differently than those who speak French.
Every dollar we spend NEEDLESSLY on duality, is a dollar that cannot be used for something IMPORTANT, like schooling or job creation.
If Government insists on maintaining TWO separate systems, then WE, as citizens, should demand DUAL TAXATION as well. Tax the English and French separately. Money to run French health boards, French School Boards, etc, will come out of the French Taxation base, and English programs, similarly, will be funded from the English taxation base.
This nonsense of spending money TWICE for the same services is crazier than a soup sandwich!« less
Roland Godin
@Jef Cronkhite
And la langue de votre choix est...
And la langue de votre choix est...
Sean Onuaillain
mR. Higgs was finance
minister for four years, lead the Alward`s government ``renewal
initiatives`` (all departments and services of government ostensibly
studied), and has been in the legislature for additional two years. But
after 6 years of hanging around the legislature, he now needs additional
time to ``study`` the educational system. And we are to believe this is
another example of doing ``politics differently``
Dave Peters
It's fair to say, Gallant is
still in election mode. He really has never gotten off that bus to do
the work he was elected to do. So friggin frustrated at our supposed
leaders, they need a dose of reality or something to snap them out of
their bickering lives with each other. Pathetic I say. What about the
jobs we will lose if we can not get a trade deal for our softwood lumber
signed to pay for the "investing" in our education system. What is the
staus on this file, & other like files?
Harold Fitzgerald
First Brexit, then Trump, overturning NBs ridiculous language laws will follow. French elitists days are numbered
Marc Martin
@Harold Fitzgerald
*French elitists days are numbered*
...elitists !!!!
*French elitists days are numbered*
...elitists !!!!
Lou Bell
Like most Ministers of
Education and their henchmen, the people running the show come up with a
useless , pathetic plan that will never work, and then blame the
teachers and others on down the line for these simplistic plans not
working !
Lou Bell
First, get rid of the
Patronage Waste working at Dept. Of Education and in every Government
Department! Duality is killing this province! There are way too many
people "GIVEN" their positions who are completely unqualified to be
where they are ! Money doesn't cure apathy !
Mike Archibald
I find it interesting that in
all this talk about funding and testing, there is virtually NO
discussion of the actual facts. Which schools are under performing?
Which students? What exactly is it they are not learning? How many
people work for the provincial department of education? What do they do? What do they earn? How many are on the 'sunshine
list'? What are the options for saving money? Why can't at least
high school or middle school kids take public transit, this would also
improve public transit. How insane is it that there is virtually no
public transit for adults in most rural areas while a big yellow bus
goes almost right to their door!
And in all the talk over all the years I've never seen ONE discussion with an actual student about what may or may not be the problem.
Talk about trying to resolve an issue with your eyes closed, no wonder even the leader of the opposition who used to be finance minister doesn't seem to know bubkus about how the system actually operates
And in all the talk over all the years I've never seen ONE discussion with an actual student about what may or may not be the problem.
Talk about trying to resolve an issue with your eyes closed, no wonder even the leader of the opposition who used to be finance minister doesn't seem to know bubkus about how the system actually operates
Roland Godin
@Mike Archibald
Good comment...et voilà.
Good comment...et voilà.
Harold Fitzgerald
It's comical to see posters
here that continually cheerlead for duality and bilingualism, posting
dozens of posts here in support of continuing language duality but not
offering any idea how to improve the disastrous reading results our
children are having. It sounds suspiciously like the Gallant Government.
Language trumps all else, even our children's education
Roland Godin
@Harold Fitzgerald
Solution to improve reading; reading, reading, reading...et voilà.
Solution to improve reading; reading, reading, reading...et voilà.
Marc Martin
@Marc Martin
And what solution did you offer ?
And what solution did you offer ?
David Raymond Amos
@Marc Martin First thing I
would if I were in government is fire every bureaucrat who yaps like you
do. Think of all the money I would save the taxpayers from Sussex out
of the gate.
David Raymond Amos
@Marc Martin I count at least
17 people in the SNB Translation Services Unit in Fat Fred City .Why
do we need so many everybody can speak French in that very snobby city?
David Raymond Amos
@Marc Martin Believe it or
not if SNB existed in 1982 my Father would have been the boss. New
Brunswick was NOT a bilingual province then and the books were a lot
better in balance than the are now N'esy Pas Premier Gallant?.
In 1986 my Mother married the former Chief Electoral Officer of New Brunswick and he tried to talk me into joining the COR Party. I wished him luck with the new party cause everybody and his dog could see that the Liebranos and the Conservatives were playing the same game they are today with the taxpayers dimes for the benefit of French men who vote in blocks. However we English folks are too busy fighting with each other to pay attention. We all need to learn the KISS principal and live up to it. EH?
In 1986 my Mother married the former Chief Electoral Officer of New Brunswick and he tried to talk me into joining the COR Party. I wished him luck with the new party cause everybody and his dog could see that the Liebranos and the Conservatives were playing the same game they are today with the taxpayers dimes for the benefit of French men who vote in blocks. However we English folks are too busy fighting with each other to pay attention. We all need to learn the KISS principal and live up to it. EH?
New Brunswick grapples with getting best returns on education investment
Grits and Tories differ on education budget goals
By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Nov 14, 2016 6:00 AM AT
Education Minister Brian Kenny has blamed the elimination
of 300 teacher positions under the Tories for recent low test scores
among students. (Shutterstock/Syda Productions)
Higgs has made education his top issue, opening every day's question period so far by pressing the Liberals on poor test scores, controversial changes to French immersion and the need to consult teachers.
Gallant has seized on the questioning to try to portray Higgs, the former Progressive Conservative finance minister, as a budget-slasher who would roll back new Liberal spending on education.
- Inclusion always a 'scapegoat' for education woes, advocate says
- Educators call for end to standardized testing in classrooms
- Education focus of Gallant government's mid-mandate throne speech
"The leader of the Opposition believes that we can cut our way to prosperity," Gallant thundered in question period last Tuesday.
"He believes that we can cut into education and still have a strong economy. He believes that we can cut into education and still have a strong social fabric."
Gallant says Higgs' record reveals a "stark choice … between a government that will want to cut and a government that will continue to invest in them."
Education grew under previous PC administration
Premier Brian Gallant has portrayed Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs as a budget-slasher. (CBC)
While school districts were required to cut their budgets by one per cent in the first year and two per cent in the second year, the overall education budget grew because of increases to teacher salaries.
Budget figures show the department had $1.04 billion to spend in 2010-11, the last budget set by the Liberal government of Shawn Graham. It rose to $1.06 billion in Higgs' first budget and hit $1.19 billion in his last budget.
But Education Minister Brian Kenny notes that despite the overall increases, the Tories made specific cuts in areas such as curriculum development and teacher training.
He says one of the most damaging cuts was the elimination of 300 teacher positions, mostly literacy and numeracy "leads," who coached students in reading and math.
Disappointing test scores
Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs has been elusive about whether he’d cut education again as premier. (CBC)
"These are some of the things they cut in the wrong place when they were in government, and we're seeing that it's causing some issues now."
The Liberals say they are restoring some of those positions.
The Conservative government was less inclined to cut later in its mandate, however.
Higgs acknowledged last year that the Tories cancelled $32 million in planned education cuts in 2014 as their re-election campaign approached.
"During an election period, a lot of focus gets off the planned initiatives," he said of the cancelled cuts.
And the former chair of the Anglophone West District Education Council said in October 2014, that the DEC was told by the government the previous fall to not start studying any potential school closures "because it was an election year."
Would he, or wouldn't he?
In the first two weeks of the new session of the legislature, Higgs has been elusive about whether he'd cut again as premier.'A broken system will not be fixed by throwing money.' - Blaine Higgs, Progressive Conservative leaderHe has repeated a complaint he often made as finance minister: that even though the number of students in the school system has been dropping for years, the number of teachers has gone up.
Last week, he said the education budget was $964 million in 2003, when there were 120,000 students. Four years ago, enrolment was down to 100,000 but the budget has gone well past $1 billion.
The Liberals used the same logic when they eliminated 249 teacher positions last year. But that was before they pivoted to their pre-election footing. Now they speak only of "investing" — political jargon for spending.
Higgs says that's not the answer. "Throwing money at the solution will not fix it," he said. "A broken system will not be fixed by throwing money."
But the Conservative leader won't say whether that means he'd cut. Rather, he promises to analyze the system, identify its flaws, set goals for student achievement and shift funding to achieve them. "We may need to spend more money," he said.
So while Higgs has given Gallant the debate he wants, he has managed so far to avoid giving the Liberals "the stark choice" that they hope to present to voters in the next election.
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