Saturday, 18 February 2017

Lets see if CBC allows me to post my comments agreeing with others and their opinions of the Irving Empire

Need I say HMMM? 


---------- Original message ----------
From: "McKeen, Randy  (SD/DS)" Randy.McKeen@gnb.ca
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 17:43:11 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Douglas A.M. Evans, QC RE JDI vs SNB I just called your cell phone and left a voicemail introducing myself Correct?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

I am currently out of the office until Monday, Aug 14. If this requires immediate attention, please contact MacKenzie Wasburn for Families and Children at mackenzie.washburn@gnb.ca or Sonny Newman for Seniors and Long-Term Care at sonny.newman@gnb.ca.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:43:04 -0400
Subject: Attn Douglas A.M. Evans, QC RE JDI vs SNB I just called your cell phone and left a voicemail introducing myself Correct?
To: devans@coxandpalmer.com, david.young@mcinnescooper.com, psteep@mccarthy.ca, jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca, Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca, rick.doucet@gnb.ca, nbfwo@nb.aibn.com, Hon.Chrystia.Freeland@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, david.wilkins@nelsonmullins.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, Jack.Keir@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, markandcaroline@gmail.com, andre@jafaust.com, COCMoncton@gmail.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, briangallant10@gmail.com, David.Coon@gnb.ca,  Davidc.Coon@gmail.com, randy.mckeen@gnb.ca, mckeen.randy@gmail.com,  blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, jake.stewart@gnb.ca, kirk.macdonald@gnb.ca, BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com

http://www.coxandpalmerlaw.com/en/home/lawyers/profile.aspx/devans

Douglas A.M. Evans, QC
Acts as counsel in the Saint John office of Cox & Palmer
DIRECT LINE  (506) 633-2757
Cell: (506) 640-0632
E-MAIL  devans@coxandpalmer.com

Perhaps you should review my blog for the benefit of your clients the AV Group?

It appears to me they don't know how to read Engish. I know for a fact
 that they do bother to answer emails or even return phone calls in
order to introduce me to their lawyer Obviously I had to wait months
for CBC to spill the beans and tell us all who you are N'esy Pas
Premier Gallant, Mr Higgs and Mr Coon???

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/02/lets-see-if-cbc-allows-me-to-post-my.html

Saturday, 18 February 2017

Lets see if CBC allows me to post my comments agreeing with others and
their opinions of the Irving Empire

Need I say HMMM?

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:18:56 -0400
Subject: RE JDI vs SNB
To: psteep@mccarthy.ca, bdsaw@mccarthy.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:10:07 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for
ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at
(506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind
his back N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be
assured  that your email will be reviewed and if a response is
requested, it will be forthcoming.


Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez assuré(e) que votre  courriel sera examiné
et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.



http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/02/yo-chucky-leblanc-re-latest-jdi-lawsuit.html

Monday, 6 February 2017


Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?


---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:10:07 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be assured  that your email will be reviewed and if a response is requested, it will be forthcoming.


Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez assuré(e) que votre  courriel sera examiné et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:09:19 -0400
Subject: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: premier , "blaine.higgs" , "David.Coon" , woodlot@nbnet.nb.ca, nsfpmb@nbnet.nb.ca, odvdm@nbnet.nb.ca, info@cvwpa.ca, david hughson , "rick.doucet"
Cc: David Amos , oldmaison , markandcaroline , andre , "terry.seguin" , COCMoncton , nmoore , newsroom

https://411.ca/business/profile/983931

JEANNOT VOLPE
314E RUE PRINCIPALE
Saint-Jacques
New Brunswick, Canada
 E7B 1X3

Phone (506) 737-4436,

Need I say that the sneaky lawyer Brian Mosher knows why I found this
stuff VERY interesting?

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/en/ForestsCrownLands/FPC/2013-2014.pdf

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/fr/ForetsEtTerresDeLaCouronne/ForProdCommission_YSC_Investigation_Report_Final.pdf

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:58:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Jean Bertin (506 444-5298) RE JDI vs SNB We just talked
about what I heard and read in CBC this morning Here is the email I
promised
To: jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com
Cc: David Amos , "Jacques.Poitras"


Trust that don't believe one word that Jeannot Volpé has to say on the topic.

Everybody knows that his former politcal boss Bernie Lord promised to
reverse the LIEbrano actions of changing the primary source of wood if
and when he won his first mandate and then the Conservatives NEVER
did.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jdi-woodlot-board-commission-1.4242677

Woodlot board fights J.D. Irving, industry players over control of private wood sales

  

'All of what's going on in that room, and all the money that's being spent on lawyers and all this time wasted is because the government will not do what they should do.' - Andrew Clark, woodlot owner


Commission chair Brian Mosher said a decision will be issued at a future date.
JDI vice president Jason Limongelli said he would not comment on the appeal until after the commission issues its decision.

"On Thursday, J.D. Irving lawyer Paul Steep told the commission that the marketing board's order is "not a lawful exercise of regulatory powers."
Its real purpose, he said, was to "force a contract with JDI."


 https://www.mccarthy.ca/lawyer_detail.aspx?id=2582



R. Paul Steep Partner
McCarthy Tétrault
DIRECT LINE 416-601-7998
E-MAIL psteep@mccarthy.ca

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:18:56 -0400
Subject: RE JDI vs SNB
To: psteep@mccarthy.ca, bdsaw@mccarthy.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


"AV Group lawyer Doug Evans went even further, alleging "chaos" would result if the order was to be put into effect. He suggested the result would be a "dictatorial system."
"The present system works well," said Evans. "Why break a system that's working?"


http://www.coxandpalmerlaw.com/en/home/lawyers/profile.aspx/devans


Douglas A.M. Evans, QC
Acts as counsel in the Saint John office of Cox & Palmer
DIRECT LINE  (506) 633-2757
Cell: (506) 640-0632
E-MAIL  devans@coxandpalmer.com

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:58:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Jean Bertin (506 444-5298) RE JDI vs SNB We just talked
about what I heard and read in CBC this morning Here is the email I
promised
To: jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca

Trust that don't believe one word that Jeannot Volpé has to say on the topic.

Everybody knows that his former politcal boss Bernie Lord promised to
reverse the LIEbrano actions of changing the primary source of wood if
and when he won his first mandate and then the Conservatives NEVER
did.




"David Duncan Young, the lawyer for the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board, countered that while the companies are "thumbing their noses" at the order, they have entered no evidence that the marketing board lacks the authority to issue it.
"They want a free market economy," Young said. "They want to control their own destiny."
That, said Young, is something they will have to take up with the legislature."


 http://www.mcinnescooper.com/people/david-duncan-young/


David Duncan Young







 http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/08/re-cbc-censorship-and-my-last-call-to.html

Tuesday, 8 August 2017

RE CBC censorship and My last call to David Fraser of McInnes & Cooper about such things he yaps about constanty within CBC

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/canadian-transportation-agency-facebook-post-gabor-lukacs-1.4235123


Well the comment section started out pretty good with CBC acting in an ethical fashion and not blocking any comments of mine until a couple of their favourite Trolls pounced on me. As soon as I responded the blocking began almost instantly. I registered my indignation and those comments were blocked as well so I quit for the day.

I had had enough of David Fraser and his bullshit today. Trust that I will try to call the other two lawyers mentioned within this article tomorrow.



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 11:19:23 -0400
Subject: RE: My last call to David Fraser of McInnes & Cooper
To: john.kulik@mcinnescooper.com, david.fraser@mcinnescooper.com,
Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com, sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca, len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com,
ht.lacroix@cbc.ca, hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca,
Yvonne.Colbert@bc.ca, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca, eps@edmontonpolice.ca, cps@calgarypolice.ca, Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/canadian-transportation-agency-facebook-post-gabor-lukacs-1.4235123



Transportation agency accused of censorship after deleting online criticism
'This is a form of censorship ... and this is a violation of freedom
of speech,' says air passenger advocate
By Yvonne Colbert, CBC News Posted: Aug 08, 2017 6:00 AM AT


44 Comments


Ben Smith
lol same as on this site... and we own the CBC too.

Life under the Liberals.... always harder for some reason.


Gabor Lukacs
@Ben Smith
CBC is is not a governmental body. It is not subject to s. 2(b) of the Charter.

Darryl McBride
@Gabor Lukacs The CBC is tax payer funded and should be subject to the charter.

David Raymond Amos
This comment is awaiting moderation by the site administrators.
@Gabor Lukacs It is a Crown Corp that has a particular mandate to be
non partisan


David Raymond Amos
This comment is awaiting moderation by the site administrators.
@Darryl McBride I agree Furthermore what does CBC call it when they
block my comments?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: david.fraser@mcinnescooper.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:53:41 +0000
Subject: Your call
To:  motomaniac333@gmail.com

David,

could you please explain what you were getting at in your call just
now? I was in the middle of something else, wasn't able to understand
it all and then the line just cut out.

Thanks,

d.

Notice This communication, including any attachments, is confidential
and may be protected by solicitor/client privilege. It is intended
only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. If you have
received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by e-mail or
telephone at McInnes Cooper's expense. Avis Les informations contenues
dans ce courriel, y compris toute(s) pièce(s) jointe(s), sont
confidentielles et peuvent faire l'objet d'un privilège avocat-client.
Les informations sont dirigées au(x) destinataire(s) seulement. Si
vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur
par courriel ou par téléphone, aux frais de McInnes Cooper.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Kulik, John" john.kulik@mcinnescooper.com
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 17:37:49 +0000
Subject: McInnes Cooper
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

Dear Mr. Amos:

I am General Counsel for McInnes Cooper. If you need to communicate
with our firm, please do so through me.

Thank you.

John Kulik
[McInnes Cooper]

John Kulik Q.C.
Partner & General Counsel
McInnes Cooper

tel +1 (902) 444 8571 | fax +1 (902) 425 6350

1969 Upper Water Street
Suite 1300
Purdy's Wharf Tower II Halifax, NS, B3J 2V1

asst Cathy Ohlhausen | +1 (902) 455 8215

Notice This communication, including any attachments, is confidential
and may be protected by solicitor/client privilege. It is intended
only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. If you have
received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by e-mail or
telephone at McInnes Cooper's expense. Avis Les informations contenues
dans ce courriel, y compris toute(s) pièce(s) jointe(s), sont
confidentielles et peuvent faire l'objet d'un privilège avocat-client.
Les informations sont dirigées au(x) destinataire(s) seulement. Si
vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur
par courriel ou par téléphone, aux frais de McInnes Cooper.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
To: coi@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

Good Day Sir

After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
to speak to one of your staff for the first time

Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.

These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
suggested that you study closely.

This is the docket in Federal Court

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T

These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings

Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug

January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015

April 3rd, 2017

https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing


This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All


The only hearing thus far

May 24th, 2017

https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown


This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity

Date: 20151223

Docket: T-1557-15

Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015

PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell

BETWEEN:

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS

Plaintiff

and

HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN

Defendant

ORDER

(Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
December 14, 2015)

The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
in its entirety.

At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
(now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
he stated:

As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
You are your brother’s keeper.

Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
Police.

In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
[1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.


AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
is no order as to costs.

“B. Richard Bell”
Judge


Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.

 I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?

"FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html

83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:

January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate

December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!

Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau?


Vertias Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369


On 8/3/17, David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com wrote:
> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:39:12 -0600
Subject: Re Our Rights under the Charter Whereas Joseph Hickey won't
talk to me perhaps Perhaps Dr. Gábor Lukács will do so someday EH?
To: lukacs@airpassengerrights.ca, joseph.hickey@ocla.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

FYI I just called both of them from 902 800 0369 and they did not pick up

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/air-passenger-advocate-launches-constitutional-challenge-1.2281401

http://topgroups.ca/~lukacs/

http://ocla.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2013-09-22-OCLA-Lukacs-motion_to_intervene-DIGITAL.pdf

Dr. Gábor Lukács
Halifax, NS
Tel: (647) 724 1727
Fax: (902) 404-5644
Email: lukacs@airpassengerrights.ca

Ontario Civil Liberties Association (OCLA)
180 Metcalfe Street, Suite 204
Ottawa, ON K2P 1P5
Joseph Hickey, Executive Director
Tel: (613) 252-6148





http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-forest-plan-possible-changes-1.3988545



Gallant government 'still making decisions' about forest plan changes



35 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.


John Jude

Roland Godin

With our preferance for doodling painting by number politiicans to manage the resources we will be out of wood before being out of the wood...et voilà.





David Raymond Amos

David Raymond Amos

@Roland Godin Methinks painting by the number speaks well of the math skills of our bilingual bean-counting bureaucrats who advise our mindless politicians in the "The Place to Be"

BTW Remember how much the "Be in this Place" slogan cost us because liberal could not come up with an original thought?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-sets-sail-with-new-slogan-1.772379

"The province, which rolled out the updated branding late last week, spent $229,000 on the research, consultation and development of the new way to market itself, a cost that includes a national advertising campaign.

The new logo and slogan are just the beginning of what will come from the branding research, said Stuart Baker of Branding Merchants in Saint John, the group that developed the concept."

3 years later the conservatives had fun kidding us about the waste of taxpayer funds but had no better plan. N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/n-b-official-admits-be-slogan-was-failure-1.1010341

"Porter said the cost of the slogan and marketing materials jumped to $840,000 from the anticipated $229,000.

The Alward government dropped the unpopular slogan in March, but continues to use the graphic design adopted by the Liberals.

"So do you think those consultants would be interested in giving us half our money back, considering we're only using half their work? I'm kidding," said PC MLA Glen Savoie." 




John Jude
Michael Hunt
IRVING says JUMP , GALLANT says HOW HIGH!!!


John Jude
Freddy Rose
@Michael Hunt
Irving doesn't want him to jump, they want him, and the rest of us peons, to bend over.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Michael Hunt He says that to all the politicians and they all obey or else.


William Roberts 
William Roberts
@Michael Hunt You make it sound like this is solely relegated to the Liberals/Gallant government. The last one to put up a fight against the Irvings was Louis J in the 60s. It has been bend for a friend ever since regardless of political stripes.


John Jude
Paul Bourgoin
Weak, bought and paid for elected officials who sold their integrity, forgot who they represent have set up a Forestry Round Table formulating the future of the New Brunswick forest over a decade ago. The Round Table Leadership bought and paid for, an incompetent chairman. The Chairmen praised by industry, decorated with Canada's highest honor, then exposed as an incompetent impostor, his Medal repossessed by The Order of Canada and still is praised by the Forest industry. History will report that these forestry money scams have stolen our Grand Children's Legacy which is sleeping in offshore bank accounts. That our Forest was a source of life but now is a tree farm and our once prosperous watershed and wildlife habitat are gone. 


John Jude
Paul Bourgoin
@Paul Bourgoin
Why would the Province of New Brunswick close all those Forest Ranger Offices and reduce the the Environmental, Fish and Wildlife Enforcement eyes out of the New Brunswick Forest?
Rest assured it happened by design not by accident!


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Good point sir. 


William Roberts
William Roberts
@Paul Bourgoin A couple of years back I had cause to contact F&G NB to report a moose down(no obvious cause). A day or two later an agent showed up and I was soon informed there were only two such ft and one part time officer to care for Sussex to St Stephens. Can you possibly image? One FT was out sick on that day.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@William Roberts They must all hang their hat in Sussex because that is about how many "Rangers" hang around there.


john bourque
john bourque
Even though the government has changed many times over the years who controls our Crown wood has not, the talk now for many year among land owners has been, how are the Irving's going to get their greedy hands on private woodlands since crown wood is 95% gone.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@john bourque I am wondering if a judge in Saint John will allow the Irving Empire to sue the private woodlot folks around Sussex and if and when CBC will report it.

FYI the Irving's application should be heard next Tuesday..


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-launches-suit-against-woodlot-groups-1.3962317



John Jude 
Norma Christie 
I stopped being a Liberal after the Graham government. This Liberal government is all for the entrepreneur and not for the land and the people. I will always vote Green for my grandchildren and great grandchildren. 


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Norma Christie Why is it that I am not surprised?


John Jude
Paul Bourgoin
The N B Crown lands greatest threat is Industry’s unopposed influence rulings on what happens on Crown land, Fish, Wildlife and Habitat. The Conservative the Liberal Government are no match for the industry’s influence on the Boreal forest now a converted softwood tree farm.

Crown forest, once excellent habitat for fish and wildlife populations has now been converted into softwood tree farms.Government warned by Arnold H. Boer, the Director of the Fish and Wildlife Branch in a 1973 edition N.B. Deer Management Report #1,“Forestry today is the single most important factor threatening New Brunswick Deer" 1987-88-89, Biologist Norman Prentice saw a loophole in the F M Agreement, the collapse of the Northern deer herd over the next eight to ten years.

The U.N.B.Dean of Forestry in November, 1987 commented on licensee performance, the effectiveness of The C. L. Forest Act. In the “Implementation of the Forest Act observation and comments on the process G.L. Baskerville, said “In the first five years the licensees learned more how to get approval of documents through the D.N.R system, then they learned how to manage a forest.” 


John Jude
Paul Bourgoin
@Paul Bourgoin
A 1991 survey, 88% of New Brunswiker’s spent 38 million days enjoying wildlife related activities. Wildlife recreation contributed $138 million to the New Brunswick economy$50 million hunting, $ 62 million fishing, $ 88 million by non-consumptive consumers generating 2,500 wildlife jobs, 2100 person-years from service generating $200 million yearly by residents.The 1982 crown land and forest act when introduced in 1982 there were 35,000 forestry jobs today 2016 only 12, 000 remain

In 1995, Alan Graham, DNRE Minister explained that DNRE is responsible for the management of Wildlife populations across NB, regardless of Landownership, wildlife belongs to the people of NB and not individual landowners.Deer concentration on Wapske, to be no more than 100 deer on the entire Block yet 3 years ago there were over 1000 deer.Forestry practices in NB is leaving no room for wildlife habitat and wildlife populations. The Crown Land and Forest ACT in 1982,cut 35,000 forestry jobs to 12,000 today. A loss in revenue close to a Billion dollars..

2015 Deer harvest 4,314 .
An 86 % harvest decline . 


john bourque
john bourque
@Paul Bourgoin Something they never talk about is how we pay millions each year to build roads so the Irving's can get to the crown wood, roads never even seen by 99.999% of new brunswickers. 


Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@john bourque SO TRUE!!

How can he make-changes when the Conservatives promised the give away of the forest after abandoning Fish, Wildlife, the Forest Rangers while paving the crown land give-away.

If Gallant doesn't, Higgs Conservatives will!
There goes our Grand Children's Legacy!!


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@john bourque s You no doubt know most folks particularly politicians and journalists are too scared to sad anything ill of the Irving Empire


William Roberts
William Roberts
@john bourque It has been repeatedly stated that the forestry industry continues to suffer huge loses due to the cost/benefit ratio enjoyed by the Irvings cutting on crown lands/stumpage fees and the over whelming cost to tax payers to give them access. We could save $B by just shutting it down. Save the trees and the surrounding ecosystem that is destroyed for Irving profits

John Jude
Tyler Foley
Mr. Poitras, you've been penning some nice articles lately! But you could spill a little more ink on this issue, big time! While NBers are prone to exaggeration, this is just one more plan created in smoke-filled rooms with Irving henchmen and delivered to spineless ladder-climbing inferiority-complex having yes-men so often elected in NB. Irving vs. Irving was an awesome book, but there is so much more to tell!


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Tyler Foley I believe Poitras once worked for the Irving Empire Hence methinks he will only reveal what is already well known.


Rick Aubie
Rick Aubie
Yes Jim......................


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Rick Aubie That Mr Jim to we serfs within his Kingdom


john bourque
john bourque
Irving makes lots of jobs,
banking jobs in Bermuda.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@john bourque Sad but true


John Jude
John Jude
The province will grab its ankles for Irving.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Jude Very sad but oh so true


Hank Hanrattay
Hank Hanrattay
Irving pioneered the practice of "Profit off the Public"

Wish we could get a government formed that would be for our benefit as opposed to Irvings!


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos 
@Hank Hanrattay Dream on 


 Hank Hanrattay
Hank Hanrattay
@David Raymond Amos Oh I do, thats all we do is dream. NBr's need to smarten up and stand up!


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Hank Hanrattay Hmmm CBC blocked many of my comments recently yet allowed every one to stand the test of time today Go Figure why I think the government needs to get out of the journalism industry ASAP.

John Jude
Aaron Allison
Big announcement coming March 31, 2017, Irving gets more Tax payers get less


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos

@Aaron Allison Methinks you should seek employment with the Irving Empire HQ in Bermuda as a fortune teller


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-continues-to-harvest-crown-land-despite-ban-1.1251781


Irving continues to harvest Crown land despite ban

Halt order doesn't apply to J.D. Irving Limited, says spokesman

CBC News Posted: Jun 25, 2012 6:25 PM AT

A truck loaded with wood marked with an orange X, indicating it's from Crown land, rolled into the Irving sawmill in Sussex on Monday. (CBC)
A truck loaded with wood marked with an orange X, indicating it's from Crown land, rolled into the Irving sawmill in Sussex on Monday. (CBC) 


New Brunswick's biggest forestry company says the provincial government’s ban on harvesting pulpwood on Crown land does not apply to its operations.

J.D. Irving Limited is still harvesting Crown pulp, company spokesperson Robert Fawcett confirmed on Monday.

But he says Irving has permission from the minister of Natural Resources.

"We are in full compliance with the correspondence we have received from the minister's office," Fawcett said.

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J.D. Irving Limited spokesman Robert Fawcett confirmed the company is still taking pulpwood from Crown land. (CBC)

"We are continuing to run our saw mill and we're continuing to delay and reduce pulpwood that we produce on Crown land wherever we can and we've made a dramatic difference in that.

"But we are still taking a little bit of pulp from Crown lands," he said.

On June 12, Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup announced he had issued a halt order for cutting pulpwood and whole tree chipping on Crown land.

Northrup told the annual meeting of the Federation of Woodlot Owners that he was acting to resolve a "major crisis" in the abundance of softwood pulp on the market.


Northrup said he would ensure that industry buys private wood first and that softwood pulpwood from Crown land must remain on the harvest site or roadside — although he didn't say how the new rules would be enforced or what penalties industry might face for non-compliance.

No exemptions mentioned

 

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Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup was unavailable for comment Monday. (CBC)
At the time, Northrup said nothing about any exceptions.

In fact, he told CBC News he'd check into reports of some loads of Crown pulp seen moving into the Sussex mill that morning.

Northrup was unavailable to comment Monday. A staff member at his constituency office in Sussex said the minister was in back-to-back meetings at an undisclosed location in town.

The New Brunswick Forest Products Association says its members are complying with the ministerial order.

J.D. Irving Limited is no longer a member of that group.

On Monday, a truck rolled into the Irving sawmill in Sussex with a large orange "X" on the load, indicating it’s wood from Crown land.

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Chris Spencer, of the Southern New Brunswick Wood Co-operative, says the "X" on the load of wood at the Irving mill and size and condition of the wood indicates that it was Crown pulp. (CBC)

And according to Chris Spencer, a certified forest technician with the Southern New Brunswick Wood Co-operative Ltd., the size and condition of the wood indicates that it was pulp.

"It would certainly appear that was a load of Crown pulp, the "X" indicating that it was Crown wood, and the rot and the holes in the middle indicate it was pulpwood material," Spencer said.

Some woodlot owners had expressed skepticism over the ban when it was announced. They questioned whether the minister could enforce the halt order since he hadn't set any penalties for non-compliance.

The woodlot owners say they have not been able to sell pulpwood for months as a result of an overabundance of product caused by recent mill closings and because forestry companies are taking their supplies from Crown land at low prices.

The market share for the private woodlot sector fell to nine per cent in 2010-11 from 28 per cent in 1990-91.

A new Forest Sector Competitiveness Committee, made up of government, industry and woodlot owners, will look at long-term solutions, the minister has said.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jdi-woodlot-board-commission-1.4242677

Woodlot board fights J.D. Irving, industry players over control of private wood sales

Case pits J.D. Irving Ltd., AV Group, and several contractors and smaller players against SNB Forest Product

By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Aug 10, 2017 8:06 PM AT




A lawyer for AV Nackawick suggested 'chaos' would result if the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board gained control over wood purchases and sales from private woodlots throughout its territory.
A lawyer for AV Nackawick suggested 'chaos' would result if the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board gained control over wood purchases and sales from private woodlots throughout its territory. (Jacques Boissinot - Canadian Press) 

A fight over the future of wood sales from private lots was argued before the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission on Thursday.

At stake was the marketing board system that's governed wood sales from private woodlot owners for most of the past four decades.

The case pits J.D. Irving Ltd., AV Group, and several contractors and smaller players against the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board in Sussex.

The marketing board has not been able to negotiate a contract to sell wood to JDI since 2012.
Instead, Irving bought all of its wood in that region directly from individual woodlot owners and a group of wood harvesting contractors.

The cheques still passed through the marketing board, allowing it to collect a three per cent levy.

But early last year, believing it has the authority under New Brunswick's Natural Products Act, the market board  countered with an order declaring it has control over all wood purchased and sold from private woodlots in its territory, which extends from Moncton to just west of Saint John.

The issue, in one form or another, has been before the Forest Products Commission and the courts since.


Accused of 'forcing' contract


On Thursday, J.D. Irving lawyer Paul Steep told the commission that the marketing board's order is "not a lawful exercise of regulatory powers."

Its real purpose, he said, was to "force a contract with JDI."

Steep argued the board is in a conflict because it negotiates deals with both its own members and with the woodlot community at large.

AV Group lawyer Doug Evans went even further, alleging "chaos" would result if the order was to be put into effect.

He suggested the result would be a "dictatorial system."

"The present system works well," said Evans. "Why break a system that's working?"


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David Young, who represents the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board, said the companies have entered no evidence that SNB lacks the authority to issue the disputed order. (McInnes Cooper)

David Duncan Young, the lawyer for the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board, countered that while the companies are "thumbing their noses" at the order, they have entered no evidence that the marketing board lacks the authority to issue it.

"They want a free market economy," Young said. "They want to control their own destiny."
That, said Young, is something they will have to take up with the legislature.


Guaranteed access


From the back of the room, Andrew Clark, a woodlot owner and director of the Carleton York-Sunbury-Charlotte Forest Products Marketing Board, watched Thursday's proceedings.


'All of what's going on in that room, and all the money that's being spent on lawyers and all this time wasted is because the government will not do what they should do.' - Andrew Clark, woodlot owner

Clark said it's time for the provincial government to remind the companies that they were granted guaranteed access to wood from Crown land in exchange for also buying from the marketing boards.

"I am absolutely frustrated and disgusted with my governments," said Clark. "None of them have had the guts to stand up and end this foolishness,

"All of what's going on in that room, and all the money that's being spent on lawyers and all this time wasted is because the government will not do what they should do."

Commission chair Brian Mosher said a decision will be issued at a future date.

JDI vice president Jason Limongelli said he would not comment on the appeal until after the commission issues its decision.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-woodlot-lawsuit-trial-1.3992584 



J.D. Irving challenge to southern N.B. woodlot groups heads to trial

In dispute are powers of the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board

By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 21, 2017 4:39 PM AT

J.D. Irving. Limited is using both the courts and the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission to challenge recent moves by the SNB Wood Cooperative and the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board.
J.D. Irving. Limited is using both the courts and the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission to challenge recent moves by the SNB Wood Cooperative and the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board. (Jacques Boissinot - Canadian Press)


J.D. Irving's dispute with two southern New Brunswick woodlot groups will go to trial, a judge in Saint John has decided.

Justice William Grant dismissed arguments by SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group, the SNB Wood Cooperative, that JDI lacked standing in the case and that the application was an abuse of the court process.

JDI wants a contract between the two groups representing southern New Brunswick woodlot owners declared unlawful by the Court of Queen's Bench. The forestry company says the marketing board has unlawfully delegated its powers to the co-operative.

Grant found there was enough disagreement over the facts to warrant a trial.

"Clearly there are disputes of fact in this case," the judge said.

At the root of the case is a January 2016 order from the marketing board that attempts to assert its authority under the New Brunswick's Natural Products Act over sales from private woodlots within its territory.

The order declared that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.

JDI stopped buying wood from SNB in 2012 and has been bypassing the board to make deals directly with wood brokers and woodlot owners within the board's designated boundaries. The marketing board does not control the terms or the price.


More from woodlots

Earlier this month, JDI placed a half-page ad in the Telegraph-Journal newspaper claiming it is on track to purchase more wood from private woodlots than ever before.

Another company, AV Group, with mills in Nackawic and Atholville, has applied to be an intervener in the case.

In the meantime, a related appeal by JDI to the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission is scheduled to be heard March 14 and 15.

The company is challenging the validity of the SNB Marketing Board order.

Commission chair Brian Mosher told CBC News on Tuesday that the two-day hearing will likely take place in private.

Commission hearings are, by default, open but can be closed if members agree. Whether the JDI hearing will be open or closed will be decided at a meeting Wednesday.



 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-forest-plan-possible-changes-1.3988545

Gallant government 'still making decisions' about forest plan changes

Premier says any changes to 2014 deal between industry and province will be revealed in coming weeks

By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Feb 17, 2017 4:25 PM AT

The Alward government gave the forest industry access to more wood from Crown land in an agreement signed in 2014.
The Alward government gave the forest industry access to more wood from Crown land in an agreement signed in 2014.

Premier Brian Gallant says his government will reveal "in the next few weeks" whether it will make changes to the controversial forestry plan put in place by the previous Progressive Conservative government in 2014.

The plan gave forestry companies increased wood allocations that were supposed to spur the creation of hundreds of new jobs, in part because of mill expansions.

But environmentalists and private woodlot owners complained in 2014 that the plan, and resulting contracts signed with the largest companies, gave away too much.

Gallant told reporters those contracts make the review "a bit more complicated." The premier acknowledged two years ago the wood allocation provisions could not be changed.

'It's very complex'


"It's very complex as you can imagine, specifically, given the fact that the previous government had prepared their plan and signed some contracts," Gallant said Friday.

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Premier Brian Gallant says New Brunswickers will find out in the next few weeks if his government will make changes in a forestry plan that brought criticism down on the previous Progressive Conservative government in 2014. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

"But we're going to be very diligent in making sure we can work within those confines and have the best plan possible for the New Brunswick economy."

The plan allowed companies to harvest 660,000 more cubic metres of softwood on Crown land, which is publicly owned. That was expected to create 500 more permanent jobs in the industry as well as 1,200 construction jobs during mill expansions.

That came at the expense of conservation areas and sustainable harvesting, critics said.

The Liberals promised in 2014 to evaluate "options under the current forestry plan and submit the sustainability provisions in the plan to a proper review."

In early 2015, then-natural resources minister Denis Landry said the government would change "maybe some things that aren't major, maybe some things that are major."

Still making decisions


Gallant wouldn't comment Friday on what's on the table.

"We're still in talks. We're still making decisions."

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Mike Legere, executive director of Forest NB, doesn't think there is much room for changes to the forestry agreement between the industry and provincial government. (Twitter)

Mike Legere, the executive director of the forest industry group Forest NB, said the industry has been operating on the assumption the wood allocations will not change.

"It's business as usual with regards to commitments the province has made with allocations," he said. "Those commitments are pretty strong.

But he said it's possible companies could agree to other changes to accommodate what the Liberals want to achieve.

"I don't think there's a lot of room [for changes] but I'm sure we could get creative as an industry if there's something they want us to do."

'I don't think there's a lot of room [for changes] but I'm sure we could get creative as an industry if there's something they want us to do.' - Mike Legere, executive director Forest NB

​Legere said the pending announcement is probably linked to the upcoming signing of five-year plans by private companies who cut wood on the public land they lease from the province.

Those plans couldn't be finalized without any changes the government wanted to make to the overall plan, he said.

Legere said forestry companies have been more preoccupied with other issues lately, including an expected spruce budworm infestation and the lack of a Canada-U.S. softwood lumber agreement. The previous agreement, which expired last year, exempted lumber from the Maritime provinces from trade penalties.

Wood supply issues


Progressive Conservative MLA Ross Wetmore, the opposition critic for natural resources, said the Liberal changes should address criticisms made by Auditor-General Kim MacPherson in 2015.

MacPherson criticized the province's "failure to comply with its own legislation and provide leadership on private wood supply issues through a well-defined role and clear objectives."

Auditor General Kim MacPherson
Auditor General Kim MacPherson was critical of the province in 2015 for not complying with its own legislation about private wood supply issues. (CBC)

Private woodlots are supposed to be the primary source of wood supply for the forest industry, but woodlot owners say the forestry plan and other government policies make their wood less attractive than Crown wood.

"I think this government should be looking at the auditor general's report and acting on it," Wetmore said. "That's what they're supposed to do."

MacPherson also said the government wasn't overseeing silviculture programs on Crown land.
Wetmore brushed off a question about whether the PC forestry plan should have included stronger provisions on those two points, saying it's up to the Liberals to act on the auditor-general's findings.

"This is what she's saying," he said. "They're government. We're not in government."

Green Party Leader David Coon said the Liberals should do more to support private woodlots, including defending the wood marketing boards that have been in a legal battle with J.D. Irving Ltd.

But he agreed that the 2014 contracts with forest companies that incorporated the increased wood allocations mean it'll be hard for the Liberals to make substantial changes.

"So they haven't got any wiggle room whatsoever that I can see," Coon said. "But it'll be interesting to see what they come up with." 


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-wood-marketing-boards-dispute-1.3966168

Industry dispute with wood marketing boards needs government action, says ex-minister

Jeannot Volpé says marketing board should be 'primary source' of wood for industry on trial basis

By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 06, 2017 6:30 AM AT



Jeannot Volpé, a former natural resources minister, says the province should show leadership in the dispute between industry players and private wood marketing boards
Jeannot Volpé, a former natural resources minister, says the province should show leadership in the dispute between industry players and private wood marketing boards (ICI.Radio-Canada) 


Former New Brunswick natural resources minister Jeannot Volpé says it is time for the province to show leadership in the dispute between industry and woodlot marketing boards.

Volpé says the government should consider a requirement that industrial players like J.D. Irving, Limited. buy a portion of their wood from New Brunswick's forest product marketing boards as a condition for access to trees on Crown land.

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Jeannot Volpé was minister in the Progressive Conservative government of Bernard Lord that took office in 1999. (CBC)

The so-called "primary source" rule was abandoned in 1992 but should be reintroduced on a trial basis, says Volpe, who was minister of natural resources and energy from 1999 to 2003 in the Bernard Lord government.

Volpé says a current lawsuit launched by J.D. Irving will only do more damage to already struggling woodlot groups.

"Going to those courts costs a lot of money," said Volpé. "And for a marketing board to invest $100,000 in a court case, it's a lot of money. For a big company who will recover it over cheaper wood long-term, it's an investment."

Lawsuit filed by J.D. Irving


J.D. Irving has filed a legal action against the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and the SNB Wood Co-operative.

The lawsuit asks the Court of Queen's Bench to declare a contract between the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group, the SNB Wood Cooperative, unlawful.

It is the latest in a series of moves by J.D. Irving to break the hold New Brunswick's wood marketing boards have over sales from private woodlots.

At the root of the case is a January 2016 order issued by the co-operative declaring that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.

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Jeannot Volpé, a former natural resources minister, says province should make industry players buy wood from marketing boards before taking it from Crown land. (CBC)

The dispute dates back decades but the most recent round began in 2012 when J.D. Irving Ltd. stopped signing contracts to buy wood from the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board.

Along the way, J.D. Irving Ltd. lost appeals to both the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission and the New Brunswick Court of Appeal.

Despite those setbacks the company continues to contract wood sales directly with private woodlot owners, rather than with SNB.

It has also filed a second appeal to the Forest Products Commission arguing that the SNB board's order is not valid.

'It seems like industry's got all the cards.' - Jeannot Volpé, ex-natural resources minister

Volpé says there have been times in past decades when marketing boards failed to honour contracts made with the big companies.

But the pendulum, he says, has swung in the other direction.

"Right now it's moved to the other way around where it seems like industry's got all the cards," said Volpé. "This is for government to decide and [they] don't seem to be ready to do it."

Irving defends its purchase record


In a written statement J.D. Irving vice-president Jason Limongelli defended the lawsuit and the company's record of purchasing from private woodlots.

"This is not a lawsuit against woodlot owners or wood producers," said Limongelli. "The application is intended to prevent disruption to the flow of private wood and protect the manner in which wood purchases have been successfully conducted over the past number of years."

The company's allegations have not been tested in court.

Limongelli goes on to say the company's purchase of private wood has increased 200 per cent over the past 10 years.

"This year, JDI's private wood and stumpage purchase programs resulted in a record volume of private wood purchases," said Limongelli.

"The company has purchased 46 per cent more wood than last year, and are on track for the highest volume of private wood purchases in the company's history."

J.D. Irving did not respond to a question by CBC News for the company's position on the role of the forest product marketing boards.

Jean Bertin responded in an email on behalf of the government, which he said supports "the current practices" for wood flow.

"Private wood harvest levels have steadily increased since 2010 and continue to flow at high levels in 2016/17. Private woodlot volumes have returned to similar levels experienced before the economic downturn in 2007.

"With the current levels of private wood harvesting back to historic levels, there does not appear to be a market issue."

Bertin said the closure of pulp mills has created an oversupply of low-grade material in the Atlantic region and the province is looking to find other uses for low-grade material.
 


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-launches-suit-against-woodlot-groups-1.3962317
 

J.D. Irving launches suit against woodlot groups

Legal action follows attempt by SNB board to assert authority over wood purchases

By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 02, 2017 6:30 AM AT



The Alward government gave the forest industry access to more wood from Crown land in an agreement signed in 2014.
The lawsuit follows an order by SNB that industry must buy its wood from the marketing board rather than from individual woodlot owners. (Jacques Boissinot - Canadian Press) 

J.D. Irving Ltd. has launched a lawsuit against two groups representing private woodlot owners in southern New Brunswick.

The outcome could have far-reaching implications for the way private wood is bought and sold in New Brunswick and the price obtained by individual woodlot owners.

The lawsuit asks the Court of Queen's Bench to declare a contract between the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group, the SNB Wood Cooperative, unlawful.

At the root of the case is a 2015 order issued by the co-operative declaring that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.
JDI stopped buying wood from SNB in 2012 but has been making deals directly with woodlot owners within SNB's provincially designated boundaries.

In its statement of claim, JDI says the SNB marketing board has unlawfully delegated its powers to the SNB co-operative.

In issuing its order, SNB cited the province's Natural Products Act.

"JDI is directly and adversely affected by the unlawful delegation of the SNB Board's powers and function to the Co-op," the company says in its statement of claim.

Allegations not tested in court


The company's allegations have not been tested in court.

Another company, AV Group, with mills in Nackawick and Atholville, has applied to be an intervener in the case, suggesting the implications could be felt provincewide.

"It's going to be a challenging few years for the industry," said Susannah Banks, manager of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners. "There is a move toward more direct contracts with brokers as opposed to contracts with marketing boards."


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'It's a classic case of injustice,' says Green Party Leader David Coon. (CBC)

Green Party Leader David Coon said woodlot owners are being hurt while the province fails to enforce its own regulations specifying that a fixed proportion of wood must be purchased from private woodlots before Crown wood can be harvested.

"It's a classic case of injustice," said Coon.

"Can you imagine if family farmers were treated this way or lobster fishermen were treated this way? There would be a revolution in parts of New Brunswick."

It's an issue New Brunswick's auditor general, Kim MacPherson, waded into in her 2015 report.

"We have concluded the Department of Natural Resources does not meet its principal responsibilities under legislation respecting timber supply from private forest lands," said the report.

"The Department's failure to comply with its own legislation and provide leadership on private wood supply issues through a well-defined role and clear objectives contributes to uncertainty for private woodlot owners and conflicts within the marketing board system."

Both SNB's general manager, Pam Folkins, and J.D. Irving's Mary Keith said they cannot comment on the lawsuit because the matter is before the courts.





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