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Methinks Premier Gallant and many other politicians should check my work within the EUB hearings in matters 357 and 375 ASAP N'esy Pas?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/federal-carbon-tax-rebates-new-brunswick-1.4877178

Federal carbon tax rebates to N.B. families will be lowest in Canada

Federal tax will add millions to electricity costs, but those are excluded from consumer rebates

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Oct 25, 2018 7:00 AM AT

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David Amos

Why is it I am not surprised to read this?

"More than half of all NB Power costs are allocated to residential customers or wholesale customers who resell to residential customers and the utility indicated its intention is to pass the tax through to consumers through higher rates."

Methinks folks should check my work within the EUB in matter 357 and 375 N'esy Pas?

 
Shawn McShane

Meanwhile NBers are on the hook for billions with Pt. Lepreau with cost over runs by Ottawa crown corp Meanwhile Justin Trudeau’s government sees nuclear energy as “an important part of Canada’s current clean energy basket” and is lobbying foreign nations to include it in climate change talks. In Katherine McKenna speech she praises CANDU reactors, which Canada is seeking to export...Is this a joke on NB or what?

David Amos

@Shawn McShane I repeat check my work at the EUB

 
stephen blunston

just a few more reason not to support this scam carbon tax , rip off poor little NB to give bigger rebates someplace else , I knew from day 1 that this would not be revenue neutral. and I can guarantee it will cost more than 200 and some dollars and wait for it , give a discount to lpower corps , that will pass cost to the consumer but ..... they give the rebate back to NB power , FOLKS NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU LOOK AT IT THIS IS A TAX GRAB PLAIN AND SIMPLE AND WILL NOT HELP anyone but the governments with more of our hard earned money to waste

David Amos

@stephen blunston YUP

  

Mark Deckard

Just say NO to Trudeau's carbon tax grab in October 2019.

David Amos

@Mark Deckard YUP

 
John Haigh

Good to see that rock solid brolationship of Gallant and Trudeau finally paying off.

David Amos

@John Haigh Impressive

 
Alex Butt

Biggest load of tosh I have ever heard! This province is most likely the biggest loser in this country. We pay the most and get the least. What a great combination. Wonder why New Brunswick's biggest export is people. I am very seriously believing that it is more economical for me to move to another province than to stay and contribute to this insanity.

stephen blunston

@Alex Butt I am thinking the same myself

David Amos

@stephen blunston Methinks you have heard the expression "Mama I come home to die" Well I came home in 2015 to stay Methinks in the "Mean" time while I am still above ground and not pushing up daisies for my grand kids to pick I figured i might as run for public office again while suing the Crown Its a dirty job but somebody has to do it N'esy Pas?

 
Mark Bishop

The bottom line is the poor get poorer, thank you Justin for listening. Great idea I for one will remember in the fall when I vote.

David Amos

@Mark Bishop Methinks in order to soothe my own soul I will run against him again even though nobody cares N'esy Pas?

 
Thomas Imber

Trudeau must think Canadians are pretty dumb to think that by paying a carbon tax, and then supposedly getting some of it back, it will somehow "tackle climate change". Sounds more like a way to grow the bureaucracy and take more money from Canadians, and apparently, take more money from New Brunswickers than anyone else.

David Amos

@Thomas Imber Methinks he is trying buy votes while appearing ethical and true to his climate change buddies N'esy Pas?

 
Greg Smith

Lowest wages, most expensive cannabis and alcohol, worst roads, lowest carbon tax rebates....and our imploding government wonders why it can't retain it's tax base!

Marc LeBlanc

@Greg Smith Don't forget highest natural gas rates in the country

David Amos

@Marc LeBlanc And we get next to nothing in royalties from the natural gas the corporations took from us.

 
Greg Miller

Of course they will be the lowest in Canada, this is New Brunswick! With Gallant falling all over himself to please Trudeau there's no need to for the feds to cater to New Brunswick--we're just too small and insignificant to matter and Gallant won't make any waves in fear of jeopardizing his future in federal politics.

David Amos

@Greg Miller Methinks not only is it interesting that one liberal would do that to another but that he had Madame Petitpas (Who also worked with the RCMP) make the the big announcement in this province while Gallant is trying to save his mandate with a very desperate Speech from The Throne N'esy Pas?

 
Richard Dunn

I find it fitting that Ginette Petitpas (hopefully unemployed in 2019) Taylor chose to make her announcement in front of a bunch of busses...…..as her, Trudeau and Gallant threw us all under the bus for the new carbon tax. The bus theme seems popular for Gallant.

No offence to Ginette as a person at all, but she needs to take a hard look in the mirror on her choice to support the liberal party on many of her votes and announcements.

David Amos

@Richard Dunn Speaking of buses Methinks my political foes Gallant and Trudeau no doubt know that the liberal dude driving Gallant's bus around "The Place To Be" during the past two elections seasons was a member of the RCMP who knew me fairly well many moons ago Small world N'esy Pas?

 
Darryl Smith

If one is to believe the plan that has been laid out by the drama teacher they are trying to socially engineer our behaviours through taxation. You see they realized it made people quit smokeing when they taxed the hell out of that. Now they think businesses will invest billions to reduce carbon emissions if they tax carbon. Here’s the kicker the businesses don’t pay tax the end user pays the taxes. Any accountant can explain how the costs get passed along. Every business’s goal is to profit, if costs go up so do prices that’s a simple fact.

From the people who brought you “the budget will balance itself” now we have this mess. If our Fredericton was worth a lick they would be working with Ontario to sue JTs libs

Shawn McShane

@Alex Butt Higgs said he would join lawsuit but then backpedaled.

David Amos

@Shawn McShane 'Higgs said he would join lawsuit but then backpedaled"

Go Figure.

 
Anne Bérubé

Well, follow New Brunswickers, continue to vote liberal on the road to destruction. Good luck.

Jim Joe Jackson

@Anne Bérubé Conservatism doesn't offer any hope anyway. Spending cuts and ignorance for science....woo!

David Amos

@Jim Joe Jackson True

 
Arec Bardwin

So rebates. I guess it was never about reducing emissions anyway. Just Liberals moving money around from enemies to friends. Rest of Canada to Upper Canada. The cycle continues....

David Amos

@Arec Bardwin YUP

 
Mario Doucet

Burn wood for heat, no carbon tax on that.

 

William Reed

@Mario Doucet

It also has the added benefit of not reintroducing long ago sequestered carbon from the Earth's long carbon cycle.

Jim Joe Jackson

@Mario Doucet Burning wood creates carbon emissions and it reduces forest cover that takes carbon out of the atmosphere. It is probably worse to burn wood.

Shawn McShane

@Jim Joe Jackson Its renewable. You can plant more trees.

David Amos

@Shawn McShane True but methinks the Crown is paying Irving et al to just plant soft wood and that stuff is not very good to use to heat your abode with N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Jim Joe Jackson Good Point

 
Wally E. Bamberger

Now I understand why Trump was elected.

David Amos

@Wally E. Bamberger Methinks it was not rocket science to figure that out Now if only the poor souls of Trudeau beloved peoplekind would consider a few things N'esy Pas?

 
William Reed

The intent here passes the PR green test, but we all suspect it will accomplish little to dissuade the consumers in our consumer society from pulling back. I can't see it producing more of a pinch than medium term interest rate hikes of 2%. To choke the consumer you cannot give him his money back. Carbon pollution is a disease of the affluent, so the cure must set us back in very noticeable fashion. I don't see that here. We' ll continue to see global emissions growth rates that are positive because affluence is growing on this planet and because our rapidly expanding technologies consume energy and fossil fuel laden resources without remorse. It really has nothing to do with growing renewable if everything else outpaces it, and that is exactly what we face with the desire for economic growth. We' d all be better off adopting minimalist lifestyles and having that ingrained in us by our mass media.

Shawn McShane

@William Reed The intent HERE does not pass the smell test.

David Amos

@Shawn McShane Methinks it stinks N'esy Pas?

 
Harold Fitzgerald

The Liberals, promising to give you back a portion of your money, the money they taxed from you. You've got to be pretty stupid to buy into the Liberal's scam.

David Amos

@Harold Fitzgerald YUP

 
Tim Redford

You get the government (and their policies) you deserve:

10 Libs from 10 NB seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election_results_in_New_Brunswick

David Amos

@Tim Redford Oh So True

 
Evan Day

Thank God for Robert Jones.

David Amos

@Evan Day Dream on

 
Rosco holt

So those who heat themselves with electric will freeze to death.

Way to got Justin.

Not.....

David Amos

@Rosco holt Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger should have his lawyers check my work within the hearings of matters 357 and 375 before the EUB for the last year and a half N'esy Pas?

 
Jeff Smith

It's just an excuse to tax us more. Liberal politicians jet around and have huge vans, they don't care.

David Amos

@Jeff Smith YUP

 

 
Buford Wilson

The carbon tax is a cruel hoax.

Everybody loses but the politicians.

David Amos

@Buford Wilson I considered it a joke that Trudeau played on his buddy Gallant just as he was trying to save his mandate. However I reconsidered and have no clue as why the liberals would do something so stupid. Methinks there is one thing everybody knows for sure Justin and Andy are as dumb as posts but the clever lawyer Maxime will reap the whirlwind over this nonsense N'esy Pas?

 

David Amos

Methinks as we go into winter and Gallant has backed away from his promise to freeze the power rates folks should pay attention to the upcoming hearings before the EUB in the 357 matter N'esy Pas?

Federal carbon tax rebates to N.B. families will be lowest in Canada

Federal tax will add millions to electricity costs, but those are excluded from consumer rebates

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Oct 25, 2018 7:00 AM AT 

Consumer rebates in New Brunswick from the federal carbon tax will be the lowest in the country. (Kerry Campbell/CBC)


Federal carbon rebates for New Brunswick households will not compensate consumers for increases caused to the cost of electric heat — one of the reasons rebate payments to individuals in the province next year will be the smallest in the country.

On Tuesday, the federal government announced it would be imposing a carbon pricing and rebate system on four provinces that it found did not adopt adequate plans on their own, including Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick.

• Feds reject New Brunswick carbon tax plan, impose new one

• Gallant Liberals ponder legal options after Ottawa rejects province's carbon tax

In Moncton, local MP and Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor told reporters a New Brunswick family of four will qualify for a $256 rebate under that system next year to compensate for increased carbon costs.


"I am very pleased that we have been able to put in place a system where New Brunswickers are not going to be paying anymore out of pocket," she said.



CBC News

Federal health minister on carbon tax in New Brunswick

Federal health minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor talks to CBC New Brunswick's Harry Forestell about the federal government's carbon tax and how it will apply to New Brunswickers. 1:14

But it's not clear $256 will be enough to cover all extra costs that consumers will face.

Across the country later in the day, Regina MP and Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale revealed families of four in Saskatchewan will be getting $609 rebates to cover their costs next year, 138 per cent more than New Brunswick families.

Large emitters

At additional press conferences, it was revealed more rebate money is also going to four person households in Manitoba ($339)  and in Ontario ($307) than will paid out in New Brunswick, a difference Pettipas Taylor struggled to explain.

"Those provinces are larger emitters of pollution — that is really why — so the big emitters will be paying more," she said in describing why rebates in New Brunswick will be so much lower.
That's not entirely the case.

• How the carbon tax will affect you in 2019

Saskatchewan is a large emitter, but according to Environment and Climate Change Canada's National Inventory Report New Brunswick's economy produces 29 per cent more greenhouse gas per capita than Manitoba and 77 per cent more than Ontario.

Rebate program omission

A larger problem for consumers in New Brunswick is the rebate program announced this week does not include carbon taxes collected on electricity production — a significant source of carbon costs specifically to New Brunswick consumers.

New Brunswick is the only province among the four having the federal system imposed where a majority of consumers heat with electricity — much of it provided by a fleet of fossil fuel generators.

Last fall, in a report to the Energy and Utilities Board, NB Power estimated the cost of a $20 per tonne carbon tax imposed on it in 2019 will be between $30 million and $60 million, rising to more than $100 million by 2022 when carbon taxes reach $50 per tonne.

NB Power estimated the federal carbon tax could cost more than $100 million by 2022 when the price per tonne reaches $50. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

More than half of all NB Power costs are allocated to residential customers or wholesale customers who resell to residential customers and the utility indicated its intention is to pass the tax through to consumers through higher rates.

"The implications of a price on carbon could potentially result in significant increases in costs to NB Power," wrote the utility.

"The impact of carbon pricing could significantly alter how NB Power operates its generation fleet and could result in changes to future capital expenditures and the rates required to be charged to customers."

But the federal government has separated large emitters, like power plants, out from the consumer rebate program, placing them in a separate industrial category.

It has committed the carbon money collected from polluters in that category, including NB Power, will be returned to the province, but not to residents, according to Jack Aubry, a spokesman with the federal Department of Finance.

"Since these proceeds are collected from the emissions-intensive and trade-exposed industries … the government will not return the proceeds … to households, and instead will allocate the proceeds to support emissions reductions by industry in those provinces," wrote Aubry in an email to CBC News.

Petitpas Taylor said New Brunswick consumers would not pay "out of pocket" because of carbon pricing, but the low level of rebates and exclusion of electricity carbon costs from the new program suggest many in the province may well pay more.

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/carbon-tax-new-brunswick-1.4874352

Feds reject New Brunswick carbon tax plan, impose new one

Provincial Liberals proposed shifting portion of gas tax to climate fund

Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Oct 23, 2018 1:10 PM AT

Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor announced the federal government's new carbon tax for New Brunswick on Tuesday. (Shane Magee/CBC)

The federal government will impose a carbon tax on greenhouse gas emissions in New Brunswick to fight climate change, rejecting a provincial plan as insufficient.

Ginette Petitpas Taylor, federal health minister and Liberal MP for Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe, said the plan presented by the provincial Liberals wouldn't sufficiently lead to emission reductions.

"I can tell you that it just did not meet the federal standards," Petitpas Taylor said Tuesday, though she wasn't able to offer specifics.

• Trudeau promises rebates as Ottawa moves to levy carbon tax on provinces outside the climate plan

• Feds likely to step in, says think-tank that found provincial carbon plan wanting

• Minister adamant carbon plan satisfies federal rules — despite deviations

The provincial Liberals say they're reviewing the decision.

"It defies logic, the federal approach here," Andrew Harvey, the Liberal provincial environment minister, said in Fredericton. "We don't accept it at all."

Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs had vowed to fight the carbon tax. (CBC)

Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs had vowed to fight the carbon tax but had a different message Tuesday after learning the proposal could see some New Brunswickers get more in rebates than they pay for the tax.

"If New Brunswickers are getting more money than they're being taxed, then I'd have a hard time arguing about it," Higgs said.

Tax starts next year

The federal levy of $20 a tonne for large emitters begins Jan. 1 and would rise to $50 in 2022. A levy on fuel will be added in April.

The new tax system will impose the cost on fuel and production and distribution companies, which in turn will be passed along to consumers buying gasoline, natural gas and home heating.

The price of gas would increase 4.42 cents per litre in 2019, while natural gas used to heat a home would increase 3.91 cents per cubic metre, according to figures provided by the federal government.

But Petitpas Taylor said the federal government plans to return all of the revenue from the new tax system to the province.

Rebates

The plan will see energy users — both people and businesses — pay the higher taxes. But the rebates will only go to people, shifting the burden to businesses.

"For too long, Canadian families have had to shoulder the cost of pollution," she said. "No more. Our government is shifting the cost to those who actually pollute, which will directly benefit families."

Ninety per cent will be sent as rebates directly to individuals in the province when filing income taxes. ​The rebate amount depends on the size of a family.

CBC News

Federal health minister on carbon tax in New Brunswick

  Federal health minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor talks to CBC New Brunswick's Harry Forestell about the federal government's carbon tax and how it will apply to New Brunswickers. 1:14

In 2019, a single adult will receive $128. A second adult would receive $64, while a single parent would receive that amount for their first child. The payment would be $32 for each child.

Petitpas Taylor said the federal government estimates a family of four will pay an average of $207 and would get a $256 rebate in 2019.

The remaining 10 per cent would be directed to a fund to help pay for schools, hospitals, small and medium-sized businesses, municipalities, non-profit organizations and Indigenous communities to reduce their energy use.

Impact on businesses

Louis-Philippe Gauthier, director of provincial affairs in New Brunswick for the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, said the tax will directly impact small businesses.

Louis-Philippe Gauthier, director of provincial affairs in New Brunswick for the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, said the carbon tax will directly impact small and medium-sized businesses and its unclear if the rebate programs will be enough to help. (CBC)

"It's going to have an impact, that's for sure," he said, adding the rebate programs likely won't make up the difference.

He also wants to know whether there will be any impact on power rates.

Exemptions, rural credit

Exemptions from the carbon tax will be available to farmers and fishers for fuels.

Those living in rural areas of the province, defined as anywhere except the census metropolitan areas of Saint John and Moncton, will get an additional 10 per cent rebate. ​Petitpas Taylor said that's in recognition of the additional costs people in rural areas face for transportation.

CBC News

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks on carbon tax plan

 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the federal government's carbon tax plan for provinces who have not met the federal guidelines will tax citizens and industry, but rebates will only go to people. 1:56

The federally imposed tax comes two years after provinces and Ottawa agreed to a carbon pricing strategy. Any provinces that implemented a carbon tax deemed insufficient by Ottawa would have a price imposed by the federal government.

That federal plan is now being imposed on Ontario, New Brunswick, Saskatchewan and Manitoba.
New Brunswick submitted its carbon pricing plan for federal review in the midst of the provincial election. The plan proposed redirecting 2.3 cents of the existing 15.5-cent-per-litre gas tax revenue into a fund for climate change projects.

The Liberals said it would effectively create a carbon tax that doesn't force drivers to pay more.

Liberals expressed confidence

The share of the gas tax would rise each year until 2022, reaching 11.6 cents out of 15.5.
The Liberals expressed confidence the plan would be approved.

Serge Rousselle, the former provincial environment minister, said earlier this year the federal government would go along with the New Brunswick plan. 

"I've said a number of times that we're confident when the moment comes to look at the New Brunswick plan, the federal government will see we're meeting their requirements," said former environment minister Serge Rousselle in January this year.

Doubts raised

But the lead author of a report by Canada's Ecofiscal Commission, a national think-tank formed in 2014 that supports carbon taxes, said the province's plan wouldn't measure up.

Dale Beugin told CBC in April that shifting gas tax revenue wouldn't be effective because it doesn't impose a higher cost on carbon dioxide emissions.

The report, called Clearing the Air, states carbon pricing creates a market incentive for people and companies to reduce emissions, from drivers buying more fuel-efficient cars to corporations investing in non-polluting energy.

With files from Jacques Poitras

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/federal-carbon-tax-new-brunswick-gallant-1.4876850

Gallant Liberals ponder legal options after Ottawa rejects province's carbon tax

‘We’re not backing down until we’re told there’s nothing else we can do,’ Gallant says

CBC News · Posted: Oct 24, 2018 6:06 PM AT

Premier Brian Gallant said his government was considering all options, including legal ones, to defend the provincial carbon tax plan after Ottawa deemed it non-compliant. (CBC)

Premier Brian Gallant says his government is considering all its options, including legal action, to defend its carbon tax plan after Ottawa deemed it non-compliant and announced it will impose a federal levy.

New Brunswick is one of four provinces that were found non-compliant with federal standards, the Trudeau government announced Tuesday. Federal Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor said in Moncton that the provincial plan wouldn't sufficiently lead to emission reductions.

Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor announced the new tax being imposed on New Brunswick in Moncton on Tuesday. (Shane Magee/CBC)

On Wednesday, Gallant said he was "very disappointed" with the ruling and he will be briefed by the Department of Environment and Local Government on how to fight back or "rejig" the plan.

• Feds reject New Brunswick carbon tax plan, impose new one

• Trudeau to unveil carbon tax plan Tuesday for provinces that don't comply

"We'll consider all options, including legal ones, if there's any ground to stand on," Gallant told reporters after question period in the legislature.

"We're not backing down until we're told there's nothing else we can do."

Gallant made no mention of joining the constitutional challenge from Ontario and Saskatchewan, both of which will see Ottawa impose its price on carbon Jan. 1. Manitoba is the other non-compliant province.

'Our plan did that'

The New Brunswick Liberals' plan would follow federal targets for heavy emitters but spare consumers a new tax. Instead, the plan proposes redirecting 2.3 cents of the existing 15.5-cent-per-litre gas tax revenue into a fund for climate change projects.

The share of the gas tax would rise each year until 2022, reaching 11.6 cents out of 15.5.

• Minister adamant carbon plan satisfies federal rules — despite deviations

• Trudeau promises rebates as Ottawa moves to levy carbon tax on provinces outside the climate plan

"We certainly believe fighting climate change is important," Gallant said. "We need to protect our environment for the next generation, but we need to do it in a way that we're ensuring economic growth for the province and that we're helping New Brunswick families who are struggling to get ahead.

"Our plan did that."

The premier said it's important to protect consumers as New Brunswickers pay one of the highest taxes on gas in the country.

The Gallant Liberals raised gasoline and diesel taxes in 2015 to offset slumping fuel prices, but the government has yet to revisit the issue after the markets rebounded.

Rebates for citizens

The federal plan will return 90 per cent of the revenue from the carbon tax to the province through rebates to citizens. The federal Liberals said the rebates will be, in most cases, higher than the extra costs incurred annually from a carbon tax.

 

The federal Liberals say an average household will come out ahead with their carbon tax plan, which will provide direct rebates to consumers. (CBC News)

The federal levy of $20 a tonne for large emitters begins Jan. 1 and would rise to $50 in 2022. A levy on fuel will be added in April.

The new tax system will impose the cost on fuel and production and distribution companies, which in turn will be passed along to consumers buying gasoline, natural gas and home heating.

The price of gas would increase 4.42 cents per litre in 2019, while natural gas used to heat a home would increase 3.91 cents per cubic metre, according to figures provided by the federal government.

The remaining 10 per cent would be directed to a fund to help pay for schools, hospitals, small and medium-sized businesses, municipalities, non-profit organizations and Indigenous communities to reduce their energy use. 

With files from Jacques Poitras and Shane Magee

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