Wednesday, 28 November 2018

The nasty SANB people Marc Martin and Marguerite Deschamps continue with their libel of me in CBC for the benefit of their former President Kevin Arseneau

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:01:43 -0400
Subject: Re The 5 Minute Speech on Rogers TV of Dr Roger Richard
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Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 07:22:52 -0700
Subject: Merci / Thank you Re: Re The Upcoming 5 Minute Speech on
Rogers TV of Dr Roger Richard Candidat Indépendant Pour La
Circonscription Electorale De Kent-Nord
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 10:22:49 -0400
Subject: Re The Upcoming 5 Minute Speech on Rogers TV of Dr Roger Richard 
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Roger Richard
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 10:59:41 -0300
Subject: Re: Can I share your speech with the world ASAP before it
hits the Youtube etc?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

If you think it is a good idea.

Go for it.


---------- Original message ----------
From: Roger Richard
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 10:53:38 -0300
Subject: Re: Communications I am flattered kind Sir When does your
speech hit the air waves?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

He told me by next Friday.

He says that it should be on youtube also.


Présenté le 7 septembre 2018.

        Bonjour, je suis Roger Richard candidat indépendant pour la
circonscription électorale de Kent-Nord. I am a citizen very concern
with the financial and environmental state of our province.

        As you may know, the Liberal government induce us in confusion when
they say, just before the election, that we are about 67 million ahead
in the budget.  In reality, we have a combine debt of 18 billions:
13.9 provincial debt plus 3.9 NB Power debt. This causes that we are
paying about 1.8 million $ a day in interest alone.  Remember, we are
only 750,000 people in NB and we are not getting any younger.  I do
not know about you, but I am certainly not paying one million dollars
a year in income tax.  Where is the money coming from?

        I am talking about smart meters as an example of our stupidity.  It
should be known that they are very dangerous to our health because of
the pulsating radiation they produce.  I was opposing smart meters at
the NBEUB commission matter # 375 last winter.  The commission refused
smart meters but NB Power will resubmit the project after the
election.  Maybe in theory higher rates of electricity on the hours of
high demand may incite people to lower their consumption.  But in
practice, it is not.  We only need to read what is happening in other
jurisdictions.  Beside, why ignore the health effects this device is
causing on all living cells?  For your information, every political
parties in NB ignores environmental damages done by smart meters.

        So, I was left with two choices: either cancel my vote the 24th of
September or be an independent candidate.

        NB Power has eleven directors in its board of directors.  Five are
living outside of NB and, of those five, four are from the United
States!  Of course, everyone is very qualify.  But, could that
explains why we are producing so much electricity that we are selling
the surplus at half price to the US?

        As an alternative we could replace those foreign people at the NB
power’s board, phase off Pointe Lepreau nuclear power generating
station and buy electricity from our neighbouring provinces when we
need more electricity.  It even cost less to buy than to produce it.
It would not only be safer environmentally for us but also, that
electricity would come from renewable sources: water falls.  But that
will certainly not happen if we continue to vote for political
parties.

        We will vote Liberal again because we are afraid that Mr. Higgs will
bring back the shale gas.  Essentially, we will tell the Liberals to
continue to spray our forest and us with glyphosate.

        I am running as an independent because I want to give the Environment
a voice in Fredericton. I can do that because I will not have to
follow any party lines.  I will be free to vote along anyone I agree
with.

        Remember, the rich and powerful are overseeing us for our natural
resources and Fredericton cannot care less for Kent North.

        Thank you for taking the time to listen and lets go, together, to
Fredericton to see what they are doing with our finance and
environment.

                I would like to thank one of my mentors, Mr. David
Amos, for taking
me so far in this uncharted territory.






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Liberals renew efforts to save fracking ban

Liberal Leader Brian Gallant proposes bill to entrench fracking moratorium

Higgs greets students from Rexton, where the 2013 anti-fracking protests took place. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
 
 
Shale gas politics dominated New Brunswick's fractured legislature on Wednesday, with the Liberal opposition launching a new effort to keep a moratorium on gas development in place.

Liberal Leader Brian Gallant introduced legislation that would write the moratorium into law, making it harder for the Progressive Conservative minority government to undo it.

Gallant said he introduced the bill because it's become clear the three People's Alliance MLAs plan to vote with the PCs on the issue in Friday's throne speech vote.

Shortly after his comments, those Alliance MLAs confirmed that.

They said they'll vote against Gallant's proposed amendment to the throne speech motion. The amendment would call for the provincewide moratorium to stay in place.

All three People's Alliance MLAs said they will vote against a Liberal amendment to the Progressive Conservatives' throne speech. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
 
 
They say voting to amend the PC throne speech motion would amount to a non-confidence vote that would bring down the Higgs government.

"The last thing New Brunswickers want for Christmas is an election," said Fredericton-York Alliance MLA Rick DeSaulniers, who promised last week to vote against any lifting of the shale gas moratorium anywhere in the province.

"I'm not going to cause an election over that issue.
"I will support the government on the throne speech because we gave our word — which is very important to me — to the lieutenant-governor that we would support the government on confidence votes."

Premier Blaine Higgs said Wednesday that while the Liberal amendment is not a confidence matter on its own, it would become one if it passed and became part of the main PC motion.

PCs introduce sub-amendment


The latest exchanges on fracking come after the PCs made their own fracking move late on Tuesday.

The Tories introduced a sub-amendment to the Liberal amendment. The sub-amendment would support lifting the moratorium in the Sussex area because communities there "have demonstrated their desire to proceed with shale gas development."

Alliance Leader Kris Austin said the Sussex-only scope of that sub-amendment allows his party to support it.
"If they had put in there a provincewide lifting of the moratorium, they would have had issues with that because we would not have supported that," he said.

"Where this is specific to Sussex … we feel it would be infringing on Sussex to impose ourselves down there."

Alliance could support Liberal bill


Austin favours allowing individual MLAs to vote freely on shale gas if development would take place in their ridings. 

The Alliance leader said he might support Gallant's bill that would write the moratorium into law. At the moment, the ban can be lifted or modified by a cabinet regulation.
"If it relates directly to making sure MLAs have a vote on the issue, in terms of lifting the moratorium, I would support that," Austin said. "That's what we've been asking for."

The votes on the throne speech motion, the Liberal amendment and the PC sub-amendment will take place Friday morning. If the main motion passes, Higgs's new government will be able to stay in power.

Liberals press the fracking issue


The Liberals say that because Higgs did not win a majority of seats and only gained 32 per cent of the popular vote in September's election, he doesn't have a mandate to lift the shale gas moratorium.

"We are here because they are trying to govern like a majority government when they only have a minority," Gallant said.

Higgs said he has already compromised by vowing to allow development only in areas that support it.
"I'm not opening this up everywhere," he said. "I'm not even trying."

The Liberals pressed the issue in question period Wednesday, with three of the party's Moncton-area MLAs arguing that the wording of the sub-amendment would allow fracking "very near" the Turtle Creek reservoir, which supplies drinking water to Greater Moncton.

Moncton's Tower Road dam, one of two of the city's drinking water reservoirs in the Turtle Creek area. (Shane Magee/CBC News)
 
 
Moncton South MLA Cathy Rogers asked for a promise that fracking wouldn't happen there without the consent of municipal councils in Moncton, Riverview and Dieppe — a promise PC Energy Minister Mike Holland quickly provided.

PCs wouldn't go against municipalities


"I can answer that simply by saying yes," he said. "Yes, we are never going to go against the wishes of the region's municipalities."

Holland later told reporters that PC legislation on shale gas would lay out how the province will establish "clear boundaries" to find out which areas consent to development.
"We are going to ensure there's a means and mechanism there [and] that we're confident we're speaking with a licence from that area," he said.

He also said that, despite the wording of the sub-amendment, the PCs aren't taking for granted that there's support in Sussex and will consult people in the area.

'Eco-terrorist' label debated


Meanwhile, Liberal MLA Lisa Harris accused PC Aboriginal Affairs Minister Jake Stewart of labelling Indigenous anti-fracking protesters as "eco-terrorists" in 2013.

Stewart said he was actually referring to "radical groups from other parts of the world" who came to the province for protests in Kent County and used Indigenous people as "pawns."

"I do not think First Nations people are eco-terrorists," Stewart said. "They were treated poorly in that situation and were preyed upon. Elsipogtog at the time was financially struggling and they were used in that fashion and I'm against that."

Shale gas protesters gathered along Highway 11 near Rexton again in 2013, despite a court injunction obtained by SWN Resources Canada, ordering them not to interfere with exploration work. (Jennifer Choi/CBC)
 
 
Green MLA Kevin Arseneau, who attended several of the Kent County protests at the time, said they reflected local opinion and that he didn't believe Elsipogtog residents were manipulated by outside activists.

"It was a very, very, clear local battle," he said.

Coincidentally, a group of high school students from Rexton — the scene of the most dramatic confrontations involving protesters and police in 2013 — were visiting the legislature Wednesday.

Anti-shale gas protesters blocked Highway 11 near Rexton again on Dec. 4, 2013. (Twitter)
 
 
When Higgs greeted them, one of the students asked him about his plans for shale gas development.

The premier told the student he believes natural gas would benefit the economy and help local businesses, "but we will do it safely and we will be sure the water is protected."

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 07:39:18 -0400
Subject: We should not be surprised to witness the People's Alliance wackos go back on
their word and support Higgs as the Watermelon Party shows its nasty arse N'esy Pas?
To: votejohnw <votejohnw@gmail.com>
Cc: BrianThomasMacdonald <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>,
 David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>, re-boston.perpa@international.gc.ca,
 "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin" <kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, roger.l.melanson@gnb.caBrian.kenny@gnb.ca,
"Mark.Blakely" <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Jane.McAloon@bhpbilliton.com, jacques.nasser@bhpbilliton.com , "len.hoyt" <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
"leanne.murray" <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, jason.cooling@gnb.ca,
"Leanne.Fitch" <Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>, Duane.Rousselle@unb.ca,
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-province-wide-fracking-moratorium-1.4924252


All three People's Alliance MLAs said they will vote against a Liberal
amendment to the Progressive Conservatives' throne speech


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-nasty-sanb-people-marc-martin-and.html


Wednesday, 28 November 2018

The nasty SANB people Marc Martin and Marguerite Deschamps continue
with their libel of me in CBC for the benefit of their former
President Kevin Arseneau


https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies



David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 48 others
Methinks the Crown knows the nasty SANB Trolls Marc Martin and
Marguerite Deschamps continue with their libel of me in CBC for the
benefit of their former President Kevin Arseneau N'esy Pas?

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-nasty-sanb-people-marc-martin-and.html

#nbpoli #cdnpoli

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/green-mla-comments-1.4922740


Nazi reference in poor taste but doesn't break rules, Speaker decides


124 Comments plus a lot of deletions
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https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies



 
Replying to and 48 others
Methinks the Crown knows the nasty SANB Trolls Marc Martin and Marguerite Deschamps continue with their libel of me in CBC for the benefit of their former President Kevin Arseneau N'esy Pas?



 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/green-mla-comments-1.4922740


Nazi reference in poor taste but doesn't break rules, Speaker decides



124 Comments plus a lot of deletions
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 Harold Benson 
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Harold Benson
My caucus lol. Good to see some newbie fresh breath, willing to tell it like it is, but he'd better watch out for the thin skinned litigious ones.


Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton
@Harold Benson

Your comment is hilarious,

Why?

Because it was arseneau thst went to the rcmp.

Clive Gibbons
Clive Gibbons
@Johnny Horton

Arsenal didn't threaten anyone's family.

David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks I should ask if your buddy Sam agrees N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Yes because individuals like your kind threaten him."

Methinks that is dangerously close to libel but I don't believe that is the other dude's real name so no foul play However what you post about yours truly is a different kettle of fish N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*Methinks that is dangerously close to libel *

Nah. If it was, I could have had you and most people here convicted for hate crimes.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks that is libel N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Constantly hating or discriminating against a minority is considered a crime you didn't know ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you are well aware that I know the law N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Apparently you don't. You need to take a look at section 319(2)Promoting hatred. Yeah I know the law too.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you did not read my lawsuit closely Perhaps should ask the RCMP how I dealt with that section in the prosecution of the nasty neo nazi Arthur Topham and his strange buddy the evil Zionist Barry Winters Trust that the Crown you work for knows both criminals hated me with a passion and I was honoured that they did N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, aka J. J. Robinette!

David Amos
David Amos


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, then those targeting Acadians as an identifiable group should pay heed, eh?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps

Yes they are, with most of the bloggers here I might add.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

You didn't answer this Davis:

Apparently you don't. You need to take a look at section 319(2)Promoting hatred.

David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you and I both know for a fact that the Crown certainly knows that I replied to you immediately It is not my fault the Content Was Disabled N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Apparently you don't. You need to take a look at section 319(2)Promoting hatred."

I replied twice


Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Read up on the laws, It's just not minorities it's every race of poeple can bring charges against any one for haterd or discriminating speach, you didn't know?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

No you did not.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Where did you see me write anything of hatred related to you ?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Never said you did. Do you actually read what people write or just see what your mind wants to see?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you know I am no liar. Trust that the Crown has read them and no doubt you know where to find them as well N'esy Pas?









Marc Martin 
William Henry
With representation like that, the Greens are showing why there is only room for the Liberals on that side of the policitical pendulum. Mr Arsenault should take the time to learn parliamentary decorum and refrain from this kind of inflammatory language or go back to your farm in Kent County. I am ashamed that I even thought about voting Green in the last election. Glad my spider senses were tingling.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@William Henry

*should take the time to learn parliamentary decorum and refrain from this kind of inflammatory language *

You didn't read ? What he said was not against the law.

Marguerite Deschamps
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Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, they can't even read English. No wonder they're not bilingual!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps

I've seen tons of them laughing at my English, I have an excuse its my second language, they don't have any excuses.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks I should remind you SANB people that my barring notice is in ENGLISH ONLY N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps
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Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, they have an excuse; you can't fix $tupid!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps True However

Methinks you know that the Crown is well aware that I can certainly sue it if the RCMP won't prosecute both the dumb and the clever criminals N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Yes because individuals like your kind threaten him."

Methinks that is dangerously close to libel but I don't believe that is the other dude's real name so no foul play However what you post about yours truly is a different kettle of fish N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
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Marc Martin
@David Amos

....Again please speak in proper English that is understandable..



David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Earlier you said "No you did not."

I responded then picked up the phone again N'esy Pas?

"Methinks you know I am no liar. Trust that the Crown has read them and no doubt you know where to find them as well N'esy Pas?"


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Nah. If it was, I could have had you and most people here convicted for hate crimes."

Methinks whereas you brag about working ffor the government the Crown's lawyers should be clever enough to know that was the straw that broke the camel's back N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Again no idea what your talking about....








Marc Martin 
Tim Astle
Well, the only option with credibility on the left are the Liberals.


David Amos
David Amos
@Tim Astle Methinks politicians never concern themselves with credibility They already know most folks don't believe them anyway N'esy Pas?









 Marc Martin 
Stephen Wood
With the Speaker of the House being a Liberal and SANB , I am not surprised he viewed things the way he did. Mr Arsenault had his chance to redeem himself but flat out refused clearly showing he and the Green party are NOT willing to work with the other parties. IMO, Mr Arsenault will be the downfall of the Green party in New Brunswick.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Stephen Wood, just like in sports, if you don't like the decision, blame the reff!

Marc Martin

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Marc Martin
@Stephen Wood

But you where ok when the Liberal appointed him so that *your kind* could push their agenda right ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you would do the same if the shoe was on the other foot N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you make no sense what so ever Its a small wonder to me the former SANB President is recorded in the parliamentary claiming that he did not know what common sense was N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

We all know that quote is used for something else.


Marguerite Deschamps
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Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, you can think what you want; the rules are the rules. I personally do not see anything wrong in quoting anybody, be he, Jos Goebel or Jos from Cocomo. It does not mean that Austin and his COR party would resort to atrocities perpetrated by the Nazis. But these populist parties do resort to perpetrating untruths and the masses fall for it, just like Trump in the US, Ford and Max Bernier in Canada.

Marc Martin
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Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps

That's exactly right. He didn't call him a Nazi he took a quote from a Nazi, that is not the same. Its weird he felt targeted by this....


Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marguerite Deschamps "perpetrating untruths" I supposed that next you will be saying that PANB said the moon landing was a fake.



David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "they have an excuse; you can't fix $tupid!"

Methinks they certainly can't fix stupid but they are quick to delete your obvious malice N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos 
@Marguerite Deschamps "they can't even read English. No wonder they're not bilingual!"

Methinks byway of your own words you should have no problem with my quoting your message to me that was once in this thread N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps said

"@David Amos, you can think what you want; the rules are the rules. I personally do not see anything wrong in quoting anybody, be he, Jos Goebel or Jos from Cocomo. It does not mean that Austin and his COR party would resort to atrocities perpetrated by the Nazis. But these populist parties do resort to perpetrating untruths and the masses fall for it, just like Trump in the US, Ford and Max Bernier in Canada."









Fred Brewer 
Fred Brewer
My respect for the Green Party is rapidly vanishing.


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Fred Brewer

I am surprised that there is anyone left that has any respect for them at all... Arseneau will be ****'s undoing...

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

Who cars you didn't vote for them anyway.

David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Methinks many folks are enjoying the part in circus they are playing N'esy Pas?


Alex Forbes
Alex Forbes
@Fred Brewer Same. Sad to say I used to support them, but they have gone off the deep end.








 Marc Martin 
Dan Lee
Mr Arsenault will have respect from his voters.......hang your head high sir...you are right


Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Fred Brewer
Speaking of hatefull remarks........

Seamus O'hern
Seamus O'hern
@Dan Lee ....oh yes.....congratulations.....hang your head indeed.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Dan Lee

Well said sir.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Too Funny

Carroll Cameron
Carroll Cameron
@Dan Lee
"HOLD" your hea.......
Works better.








 Marc Martin 
capilano dunbar
I am a little puzzled why Austin didn't raise a point of privilege during the speech. The inference is not very nuanced and in this case it really isn't called for. If New Brunswickers want rural paramedics then they will have to put up with at least some unilingual paramedics otherwise they will have none at all. Common sense, in the ordinary meaning, would assume some unilingual paramedics are better than none. Very disappointing M. Arsenault didn't apologise of his own volition.


Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton
@capilano dunbar

The problem is the people of the Brockway, Sussex corners and oak hills are fine with unilingual paramedics. But someone sitting in the tracadoes and edmunstons is demanding how others will be served.

Clive Gibbons
Clive Gibbons
@Johnny Horton

They're fine with unilingual medics, as long as they are unilingual anglophones.

Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@Clive Gibbons stay on track there clive...

Clive Gibbons
Clive Gibbons
@Jim Reid

I guess what I said was true then.

Pierre Adam Bulger
Pierre Adam Bulger
@capilano dunbar common sense is knowing that the issue is not the language but the retetion / employement tatics used to get paramedics. theyre paid like **** , treated like **** and arent even considered medical professionals. but i guess when its not your language in jeopardy , common sense is whatever THEY tell you it is.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Johnny Horton

*Sussex corners and oak hills are fine with unilingual ENGLISH paramedics.*

Corrected you.

David Amos
David Amos
@capilano dunbar Methinks you should just relax and enjoy the circus I explained this nonsense yesterday but it was not my fault much of it was blocked N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin *Sussex corners and oak hills are fine with unilingual ENGLISH paramedics.*

Methinks you are well aware that I ran in the Sussex area in the last 2 elections and in 2004 as well you have teased me about it enough N'esy Pas?










Lloyd Joslin 
Lloyd Joslin
Green and liberals are one


Seamus O'hern
Seamus O'hern
@Lloyd Joslin ....the greens and libs are done.....

Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton
@Seamus O'hern
The North has almost half the seats. The libs will continue to win lots of seats,

David Amos
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David Amos
@Lloyd Joslin YUP

Methinks in more ways than one N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Johnny Horton Methinks I should ask if you have figured out who won the War of 1812 or how to call a taxi yet N'esy Pas?



Alex Forbes
Alex Forbes
@Lloyd Joslin Absolutely. Neither wanted to collaborate with any other but the each other.








 Marc Martin 
Seamus O'hern
The Card Carrying "Speaker" said it was OK and no need to withdraw NAZI Reference....".there's a shocker"....expect the same and worse then "SPEAKER"


David Amos
David Amos
@Seamus O'hern Methinks the current Speaker will soon give up the chair and Mr Higgs will likely ask Mr Fitch to take a seat It that comes true then you should be happy N'esy Pas?








Marc Martin 
Colin Seeley
The Law is an asss.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps 
@Colin Seeley, and so is the leader of the PA, aka COR party!

David Amos
David Amos
@Colin Seeley Methinks the rules were upheld and believe that a nurse should not argue law with such an attitude N'esy Pas?


Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@Marguerite Deschamps again living in the past , you must live a dull life , I don't recall seeing COR on my ballot, can you show me where you found it

Archie Levesque
Archie Levesque
@Marguerite Deschamps - Keep repeating you COR argument. You would be the same as Mr Austin in this regard according to Mr Arsenault



David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "and so is the leader of the PA, aka COR party!"

Methinks to be fair you should at least admit that Gallant and Arseneau are hooked at the hip wth the SANB N'esy Pas?








Marc Martin 
Lou Bell
Green Party irrelevance and their SANB member shines big time !


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell YUP










 Marguerite Deschamps 
Marguerite Deschamps
Thin skin Austin; if you can't stand the hear in the kitchen, get out of the kitchen!


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps

Exactly, well said.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you two are too too funny indeed N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, most on here are droll, and it's not in the sense of funny.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks your buddy Mr Martin's libel is not funny at all N'esy Pas?


Jim Reid
Jim Reid 
@Marguerite Deschamps nasty very nasty sad you cannot see this for being blinded by hate



Alex Forbes
Alex Forbes 
@Marguerite Deschamps Same could be said of all the Francophones up in arms right now..


David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "most on here are droll, and it's not in the sense of funny."

Methinks everybody knows I have a fine sense of humour and today I made you one of the stars in the local circus N'esy Pas?








 Marc Martin 
Marc Martin
*Nazi reference in poor taste but doesn't break rules, Speaker decides*

There ya go, its not illegal.


Fred Dee
Fred Dee
@Marc Martin
but it is sooo wrong!!!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Dee

Nah its not, he didn't called them Nazi directly he was making a reference that's all.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you should review Section 300 of the Canadian Criminal Code N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
FMarc Martin
@David Amos

Did he call him directly a Nazi yes or no ? He did not.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks everybody but you understands that I am dealing with what you have been posting about me N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I'm so scared!!!


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Marc Martin Cultural identity = segregation

Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@Marc Martin maybe not illegal but without question, if you were raised right you would never utter the words against another , unless of course you were not raised right or have just lost your way

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell

Again you need to research the definition of segregation.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jim Reid

That's you opinion, it doesn't make it right.

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Marc Martin Spin will not change facts . I'm sure you know the definition , just can't acknowledge it.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell

Segregation can only be applied by a group in power or in a majority. Please explain where this applies to your comment ? It does not.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you should say hey to Mr Melanson and Éric Dow of SANB about now N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "You need to take a look at section 319(2)Promoting hatred. Yeah I know the law too."

Methinks you did not read my lawsuit closely Perhaps should ask the RCMP how I dealt with that section in the prosecution of two bloggers. Trust that the Crown you work for knows both criminals hated me with a passion and I was honoured that they did N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Arthur Topham

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/arthur-topham-1.3991820

Barry Winters

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-police-lgbtq-hate-blogger-kris-wells-1.4158528

As I posted earlier it is Section 300 that you should be worried about N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I have no idea what your talking about, as most people here...For some weird reason you think everyone knows everything about you. I for one is not interested in your life story.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*As I posted earlier it is Section 300 that you should be worried about N'esy Pas?*

Worried about what ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*"You need to take a look at section 319(2)Promoting hatred. Yeah I know the law too."

I was referring to this that your posted on your blog:

The nasty SANB people Marc Martin and Marguerite Deschamps continue with their libel of me in CBC for the benefit of their former President Kevin Arseneau

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks I should thank you for finally confessing that you knew about my blog all along N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I didn't know about it, but I am happy I do now. I think you should remove facts that are untrue about me. By the way this is considerate libel.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Please sue me It will save me the cost of filing against the Crown I promise I won't file a motion to dismiss Methinks everybody knows I love arguing lawyers N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin BTW Say Hey to the RCMP for me will ya?







 David Amos 
David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise







 JJ Carrier 
JJ Carrier
If the sheet fits


David Amos
David Amos
@JJ Carrier Oh My



Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@JJ Carrier wow are you serious ? when hatred takes over your mind this much , you may want to re-visit the mirror , shameful on you JJ or is it SS








Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
On and on it goes. The point is there is a problem with language, duality and bilingualism in NB and how it is handled. Based on the comments on these articles, mine included, Don't expect everyone to agree but unless politicians are willing to set down and honestly listen to the people directly, this will continue onto the next generation. No more rewriting to Official Languages Act behind closed doors with SANB the only major group in attendance.


David Amos
David Amos
@Tim Raworth Good Luck

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@David Amos Like I said before. English sat by and did nothing and this is the result. Are we going to continue? I

David Amos
David Amos
@Tim Raworth Methinks you forgot that I am suing the Crown about this right now N'esy Pas?



Jake Quinlan
Jake Quinlan
@Tim Raworth You heard Austin in the first debate " noone wants to talk about it". He's right.








Tim Raworth 
Lou Bell
Spin like this by Arseneau has been done by the SANB for decades to their advantage and parties have been brought to their knees and sold their souls solely for votes , nothing else.


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Lou Bell YUP



David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir








Tim Raworth 
Lou Bell
Says the SANB rep while condoning what Rosa Parks fought against . Segregation still has it's pockets in NB.


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks when it comes to official languages everything is political and its always about the money Premier Ford and Andy Scheer are proving that fact in spades today N'esy Pas?







Tim Raworth  
Jane Sherrard
Isn't it time the NB government promoted unity and stopped making laws that promote segregation and solidarity? When building a world class education system, if Francophone and Anglophone teachers and students were permitted to work and learn together within their respective protected schools, we would evolve into a prosperous province with people working together, and not against each other.


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Jane Sherrard As long as politicians will sell their votes to segregation , nothing will change .Segregation does not equal unity.

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks that whereas not enough people care about what goes on in our parliamentary system we get the governments we deserve. Small wonder that so many folks don't bother to vote and most of those that do usually vote for the colour of the coat and few months later they could not tell you who their MP or MLA is N'esy Pas?



Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Jane Sherrard
Segregation/ségrégation spells the same accept we love our accent, same definition, anything thing else I could help you with in la langue officielle de votre choix...EH!.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jane Sherrard

segregation can only be done by a group or a majority in power. Are you saying you are segregating the French population ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks the lady said no such thing in fact she stated the opposite and you know it as well as I N'esy Pas?








Lou Bell  
Bernard McIntyre
The Green MLA using this comment is not unparliamentary, wow unbelievable. I guess this Green MLA would know of this comment since he has probably used this system when he was the president of the group he was a member of. Just a other comment to divide N.B instead of trying to work together and make N.B the great place it should be.


David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre " Just a other comment to divide N.B"

Exactly


Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Bernard McIntyre
First, we do have a common accord about respecting english et le français as les deux langues officielles du pays, now that we have agreed on that question we can work on the objects of the law and work things out when nescessary...eh!/voilà.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Roland Godin. Chan e` Beurla a th `annam agus chan eil mi a creidsinn nach bu choir cananan oifigeil a bhith ann. And no I don't agree with you. Eh Fiolla.


David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre Well put

 
Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@David Amos. Thank you. As I have been stating there are more than 2 race's and language's in N.B.

David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos An robh fios agad gur mise Ceannard Clann Amos?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@David Amos. No don't have any.









Alex Forbes 
Alex Forbes
Liberal speaker promoting Liberal bias...


David Amos
David Amos
@Alex Forbes Mais Oui






Lou Bell 
Bernard McIntyre
And what does the leader of the Green Party think of this situation. He's being awful quite about this.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, quiet, but not quite!

David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre Methinks the leader who can't be named knows he is in deep dodo As of last night he did not post his French Lieutenant's rant on his YouTube channel yet he published everything else his caucus has said thus far. Sometimes silence speaks volumes N'esy Pas?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@David Amos. I agree, not making himself look good here.


Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps. Picky pickey pickey, as if you haven't made mistakes in writing like today with hear instead of heat in the kitchen.







Mark Deckard 
Mark Deckard
Shouldn't the North have less seats since a good chunk of their population is moving to South Eastern NB?


Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Mark Deckard
The province does not even have a population the size of a major city street corner, at most 7 boarded members and one CEO should be amplement...et voilà.

Mark Deckard
Mark Deckard
@Roland Godin

Imagine the savings!

David Amos
David Amos
@Mark Deckard Methinks that thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?









Joe campbell
Joe campbell
Class act could have taken the high ground and said sorry and vowed to work for a solution for all New Brunswicker's. Ask him about the time he worked for a US company looking for shale gas in New Brunswick and now he is a Green.


David Amos
David Amos
@Joe campbell Methinks he has proven to many people several times that he has no class whatsoever Why else would his buddy Gallant not want him as a liberal candidate in the election? However once Arseneau wears out his welcome with the Greens I doubt we will hear much from him again N'esy Pas?

Joe campbell
Joe campbell
@Joe campbell and I told him we had some great Acadian students from UNB and he went quiet. Our amazing hire's were First Nation's and I am proud they are still my friends to this day because of respect and I went out of my way to help train them







Nazi reference in poor taste but doesn't break rules, Speaker decides

Green MLA Kevin Arseneau won't withdraw Nazi propaganda reference in criticism of People's Alliance


Green MLA Kevin Arseneau has been critical of People Alliance Leader Kris Austin's use of the phrase 'common sense,' suggesting it disguises an agenda to undermine francophone rights. (CBC)


The Speaker of the New Brunswick Legislature has ruled that a Green MLA's reference to Nazi propaganda during a debate in the house was a poor choice of words but did not violate parliamentary rules.

Daniel Guitard ruled Tuesday on Kent North MLA Kevin Arseneau's use of a quotation by Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, while criticizing the People's Alliance.

He asked Arseneau if he wanted to withdraw the words but Arseneau refused.


The famous quotation, which Arseneau used last Friday during the throne speech debate, says that with "sufficient repetition," people can be convinced "that a square is in fact a circle" because "words can be moulded" to disguise someone's real meaning.

He read the quotation while critiquing Alliance Leader Kris Austin's frequent comment about the need for "common sense" in the application of language rights in New Brunswick.


Arseneau refused to take back his comments when given a chance in the legislature on Tuesday. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Austin rose on a point of order during Tuesday's sitting of the legislature and argued that Arseneau's "insinuations" were not appropriate.

"I understand heated debate, I understand emotional debate, but in my opinion and the opinion of my caucus, he certainly overstepped," Austin said.

Guitard said he had already reviewed Arseneau's comments.
"They're not unparliamentary, but I can say as far as the choice of words, it was poor taste, and a poor choice of words."

Because the words were not unparliamentary, the Speaker could not order Arseneau to withdraw them, but he invited Arseneau to do it anyway.

After Arseneau refused, he said twice that he was not making a comparison between the Alliance and the Nazi regime in Germany.

Guitard cut him off when he tried to continue speaking.

Green Leader David Coon defended Arseneau to reporters, saying the Goebbels quotation is a well-known quotation and it's fair to use it to comment, without drawing a comparison to Nazism, on how politicians use words.









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