David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Confucius said To know what you know and what you do not know, that is true knowledge.
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https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/wilson-raybould-waited-more-than-2.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-snc-lavalin-trudeau-1.5026225
Wilson-Raybould waited more than 2 hours for permission to attend Tuesday's cabinet meeting
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David Amos
The number of comments that went "Poof" since I refreshed this web page was truly astounding
@David Amos
Welcome to the seebeesee!
Welcome to the seebeesee!
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Chris Spiers
I can imagine the conversation:
Hussein: She is Un-Canadian
McKenna: Da she has caused climate change with her hot air
Sajjan: You know I was once an AG and held my ground
Morneau: well she won't be staying at my Villa next Spring
ShameUs: You have a Villa?
Hussein: She is Un-Canadian
McKenna: Da she has caused climate change with her hot air
Sajjan: You know I was once an AG and held my ground
Morneau: well she won't be staying at my Villa next Spring
ShameUs: You have a Villa?
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liette lapointe
liette lapointe
@Chris Spiers she wasnt allowed cause buuts was on the phone giving instructions maybe
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David Allan
David Allan
@liette lapointe
People who read the article know the facts.
You should try.
People who read the article know the facts.
You should try.
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Chris Spiers
Chris Spiers
@David Allan
Facts? You want the Facts, you cant handle the facts!
But I'll give you some comedy from the Troop of Liberal jesters
Facts? You want the Facts, you cant handle the facts!
But I'll give you some comedy from the Troop of Liberal jesters
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Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@Chris Spiers
...I see you will give us reheated cliches from old movies...fever dreams from rightwing fan fiction...I’m guessing even manufactured downvotes...
...but no...no facts.
...I see you will give us reheated cliches from old movies...fever dreams from rightwing fan fiction...I’m guessing even manufactured downvotes...
...but no...no facts.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Chris Spiers "I'll give you some comedy from the Troop of Liberal jesters"
Welcome to the Circus
Welcome to the Circus
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Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Chris Spiers No profanity , on topic, and truthful,, thanks for the opportunity to be silenced on my own dime CBC
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mo bennett
mo bennett
@David Allan r u the pot or kettle today?
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David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett Methinks its rather obvious that you are the crackpot trying to calling me a kettle N'esy Pas?
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Ewan Cameron
Ewan Cameron
@Phil Mein
$600M media slush fund buys a lot of censorship Phil.
$600M media slush fund buys a lot of censorship Phil.
Phil Mein
@Ewan Cameron $600 M was a top up!! But yes I agree.
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Al Ricci
Al Ricci
@Chris Spiers
LOL, I needed that laugh. Thank you Sir!
LOL, I needed that laugh. Thank you Sir!
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Wayne Underhill
Wayne Underhill
@Chris Spiers Where are your facts. Name one I dare you!
Wayne Underhill
@Wayne Underhill I guess Chris is still researching!
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Chris Spiers
Chris Spiers
@Wayne Underhill
conveniently all my answers are sanitized by the LPC PR department
conveniently all my answers are sanitized by the LPC PR department
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Chris Spiers
Chris Spiers
@Wayne Underhill
Feel free to look up you Ministers and their faux pas
Feel free to look up you Ministers and their faux pas
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Lindsay Stephenson
Lindsay Stephenson
@David Allan" People who read the article know the facts."
No. People who read the article know what CBC wants them to know.
Mark Twain once quipped “If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.”
No. People who read the article know what CBC wants them to know.
Mark Twain once quipped “If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.”
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David Amos
David Amos
@Lindsay Stephenson Confucius said To know what you know and what you do not know, that is true knowledge.
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Google T-1557-15
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Randy Miles
Why won't you waive the solicitor-client privilege?
Trudeau: It is complicated. Um um um, ah ah ah.
He is the master of appearing to say a lot, but actually saying nothing.
Trudeau: It is complicated. Um um um, ah ah ah.
He is the master of appearing to say a lot, but actually saying nothing.
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Christian Jane
Christian Jane
@Randy Miles Not the master. Good at it, but not the master. There's a lot of competition.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Christian Jane He is not even good at it
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Nico De Jong
Nico De Jong
@Christian Jane
Like....the whole Liberal cabinet - the ALL do it. Talk a lot, but avoid answering the question.
Like....the whole Liberal cabinet - the ALL do it. Talk a lot, but avoid answering the question.
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Wayne Underhill
Wayne Underhill
@Nico De Jong I remember the Tories under Harper doing just that don't you?
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Lindsay Stephenson
Lindsay Stephenson
@Randy Miles I'm sure it has
to do with saving the environment while growing the economy, or perhaps
working hard for the middle class. But, it does take time to pick the
appropriate platitude. With any luck he'll take his shirt off while
doing the Bagma to a Tragically Hip hit.
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Piet Bloem
Piet Bloem
@Randy Miles
Actually it was "Um, ah um, ah, ah, um."
Not exactly masterful speech.
Actually it was "Um, ah um, ah, ah, um."
Not exactly masterful speech.
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David Amos
@Lindsay Stephenson Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015
David Amos
@Lindsay Stephenson Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015
Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?
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Randy Miles
Would I vote for Trudeau or
Trump, if the latter were Canadian? Trump of course. Trump is a bad
dude, but he never pretends to be good. In contrast, our PM is a phony.
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Pierre Latraverse
Pierre Latraverse
@Randy Miles Trudeau's phoniness is pretty much an image of Canada as a whole.
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Al Kap
Al Kap
@Randy Miles
Hmmmm....Trudeau may be phony but is he dangerous and unpredictable?
Hmmmm....Trudeau may be phony but is he dangerous and unpredictable?
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em tae
em tae
@Al Kap
yes
yes
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Myke Lee
Myke Lee
@Al Kap absolutely
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David Amos
David Amos
@Randy Miles Methinks I should be grateful that your logic escapes me N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Pierre Latraverse "Trudeau's phoniness is pretty much an image of Canada as a whole"
Methinks we have every right to not think much of you N'esy Pas?
Methinks we have every right to not think much of you N'esy Pas?
Nico De Jong
@Randy Miles
As phony as they come - easily dupes the easily duped, though.
As phony as they come - easily dupes the easily duped, though.
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Karen King
Karen King
@Nico De Jong
talk about easily duped, Randy is doing just that...
talk about easily duped, Randy is doing just that...
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David Amos
@Nico De Jong Trust that
Gerald Butts, Andrew Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition
know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice
Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court
of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper
was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that
it irritated me big time when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the
bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the
Federal Court of Appeal?
Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?
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Randy Miles
Compared with Trudeau, Trump is Mother Theresa.
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Mike Martin
Mike Martin
@Randy Miles
Oh please!
Oh please!
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em tae
em tae
@Randy Miles
the only difference is Trump is right on far more than given credit for. JT is wrong than far more than he is given credit for.
the only difference is Trump is right on far more than given credit for. JT is wrong than far more than he is given credit for.
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Chris Behnke
Chris Behnke
@em tae best comparison of the two I have ever seen.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Randy Miles "Compared with Trudeau, Trump is Mother Theresa"
Methinks you are merely trying to pick a fight N'esy Pas?
Methinks you are merely trying to pick a fight N'esy Pas?
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Richard Donald
Richard Donald
@David Amos every post mark with N'esy Pas? is obviously and attempt to be irritating and merely pick a fight.... N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Donald Wrong
Methinks you should ask your buddies why because they know I have
explained the reason way too many times already N'esy Pas?
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Molly Earl
Molly Earl
@Richard Donald totally agree, very annoying.
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Wayne Underhill
Wayne Underhill
@Randy Miles Turns out that she wasn't a saint in reality.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Molly Earl Cry me a river
William Knot
Must be quite a story if it took 'em two hours to get it straight!
earl dajar
@William Knot
must be a really hot cup of coffee and a big pizza slice
must be a really hot cup of coffee and a big pizza slice
David Amos
@William Knot Mais Oui
mo bennett
@William Knot nope! it just took 'em that long to figure out how to unlock the door.
Phil Mein
@earl dajar I saw no mention that it took 2 hrs because they were having lunch, or were you trying to make a joke or....?
Wayne Underhill
@mo bennett Harper must have run with the key.
David Amos
@William Knot Confucius said To know what you know and what you do not know, that is true knowledge.
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Google T-1557-15
David Amos
@William Knot How does it feel to make it to the top?
Robert Romano
This is surely not what
Trudeau promised in the 2015 elections. He promised to run government
better and run the government in a clear open transparent fashion. We
are not seeing Trudeau keeping his promises from his recent actions.
Trudeau the truth will come out sooner or later either way it will come
to the light of day so Canadians can really see how you run your
government!
Chris Spiers
@Robert Romano
This is not his first failed promise. Transparency went out the window days after he took office, Just ask Admiral Norman
This is not his first failed promise. Transparency went out the window days after he took office, Just ask Admiral Norman
Matt Thuaii
@Robert Romano
Shame! Panic! Calamity!
Quick everyone, vote Conservative as fast as you can!
Shame! Panic! Calamity!
Quick everyone, vote Conservative as fast as you can!
David Amos
@Chris Spiers "Just ask Admiral Norman"
Google Admiral Norman David Amos
Methinks many people know that I contacted his lawyers long ago Too Bad So Sad they did not pay attention then N'esy Pas?
Google Admiral Norman David Amos
Methinks many people know that I contacted his lawyers long ago Too Bad So Sad they did not pay attention then N'esy Pas?
JimHelbig
@Matt Thuaii Non sequitur.
mo bennett
@David Amos C'mon, dave, ya just know that ya gotta ask scottie that question, messy paws?
David Amos
@mo bennett I did out of the gate
Glenn Coco
Funny how we continue to address our politicians as "the honourable"
Christian Jane
@Glenn Coco I've thought so
for a long time, and I've stopped doing so (except for the few who've
earned the title. Jody Wilson-Raybould is one.
Lori Cameron
@Glenn Coco
Funny isnt my word of choice, but alright!
Funny isnt my word of choice, but alright!
Bill Lewis
@Christian Jane Oh really. What has she done to earn your unbridled respect ?
Nico De Jong
@Glenn Coco
We don't - they do.
We don't - they do.
David Amos
@Glenn Coco "Funny how we continue to address our politicians as "the honourable"
Methinks many people know that I never found that funny at all N'esy Pas?
Google "Harper and Bankers" if you wish to read an old rant of mine
Methinks many people know that I never found that funny at all N'esy Pas?
Google "Harper and Bankers" if you wish to read an old rant of mine
Ewan Cameron
@David Amos
Who really cares David?
Who really cares David?
@Ewan Cameron Trudeau
Nelson Potter
A true Liberal thru and thru … Party before country
Reid Fleming
@Nelson Potter And some members of the party before others...
David Amos
@Nelson Potter Lawyers know nothing of loyalty
Phil Mein
Open and transparent as cement , ethical? 4 violations so far ...Is this because it's 2019?
David Amos
@Phil Mein Nope Admiral Norman knows its SNAFU
Scotty Davidson
@Phil Mein Could be more but a related article says the new ethics watchdog stopped doing it's job in 2017...
David Amos
@Scotty Davidson Two former
Attorney Generals and many of the Judges in Federal Court are well aware
that I crossed paths big time with the corrupt lawyer Dion in 2014 when
he was the Commissioner of Public Sector Integrity Why he quit under
Harper and then applied for his new job under Trudeau was astounding
Paul Aumuller
Closed doors is tranparency and Bribery saves jobs! New Liberal mantra.
David Allan
@Paul Aumuller
It's a cabinet meeting. They need the ability to speak plainly and freely. They must bounce ideas around.
Why they discuss is irrelevant.
What they decide is what we already have the right to know.
It has been the way of every cabinet in every democracy in the world.
It's a cabinet meeting. They need the ability to speak plainly and freely. They must bounce ideas around.
Why they discuss is irrelevant.
What they decide is what we already have the right to know.
It has been the way of every cabinet in every democracy in the world.
David Amos
@David Allan Methinks everybody knows that all the real power resides within the secretive walls of the PCO N'esy Pas?
Wayne Underhill
@David Amos Somebody told me the other day that Scheer said he knew eff nothing then he said "I know eff all!"
David Amos
@Wayne Underhill He is member
of the Privy Council so he definitely did More importantly he is one of
the main reasons I sued the Crown in 2015
Daryl McBride
Harper waived solicitor-client privilege, Trudeau is less transparent than Harper. Say's a lot Liberals.
Danny Tanker
@Daryl McBride
You just said that.
You just said that.
Kim Luciano
@Danny Tanker Worth repeating.
Danny Tanker
@Kim Luciano
To Alzheimer's patients.
To Alzheimer's patients.
will morgan
@Daryl McBride
What was "Good to go from the PM"? Still waiting.
What was "Good to go from the PM"? Still waiting.
Kim Luciano
@Danny Tanker For your benefit then.
Danny Tanker
@Kim Luciano
Nasty and a low brow response that is typically right wing.
Nasty and a low brow response that is typically right wing.
jim miller
@Daryl McBride he didn't wave that.
Fake news.
Fake news.
John West
@Daryl McBride harper knew he was not going to go to jail.
Kim Luciano
@Danny Tanker Yes and invoking a crippling and devastating disease is not. Time for a time out Danny.
Bert van
@Daryl McBride Did he waive privilege to get his piano video posted?
Steve Davidson
@Daryl McBride So did Martin during Adscam.
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David Amos
@Daryl McBride Methinks you should scroll up and review some of my comments before they evaporate again N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Daryl McBride "Say's a lot Liberals"
YUP
YUP
David Amos
@Danny Tanker "Nasty and a low brow response that is typically right wing."
Methinks the Fake Left are guilty of the same thing N'esy Pas?
Methinks the Fake Left are guilty of the same thing N'esy Pas?
Reid Fleming
The most (criminally) transparent government in Canadian history...
Christian Jane
@Reid Fleming Boy, you don't know much Canadian history, do you?
@Reid Fleming
Nope.
Conservatives win that one 10 to 5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_Canada
Nope.
Conservatives win that one 10 to 5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_Canada
Douglas Oneschuk
@Douglas Oneschuk
LOL! Dislikes from ten people who don't like facts. I wonder who they are affiliated with?
LOL! Dislikes from ten people who don't like facts. I wonder who they are affiliated with?
David Amos
@Reid Fleming "The most (criminally) transparent government in Canadian history..."
Methinks that may be the understatement of the year N'esy Pas?
Methinks that may be the understatement of the year N'esy Pas?
Norm Dixon
the corruption is now overflowing the toilet bowl!!!
David Allan
@Norm Dixon
Why?
Because once again the Libs broke with tradition to be more inclusive?
Why?
Because once again the Libs broke with tradition to be more inclusive?
Nico De Jong
@David Allan
Yeah, okay LOL LOL LOL LOL
Yeah, okay LOL LOL LOL LOL
Jim Lauzon
@David Allan
Wow, most ridiculous reply ever?
Wow, most ridiculous reply ever?
David Amos
@Jim Lauzon YUP
David Amos
@David Allan "Why? Because once again the Libs broke with tradition to be more inclusive?"
Nope Even you are witness to this nonsense today EH?
Nope Even you are witness to this nonsense today EH?
Daryl McBride
Harper looks pretty good right now, at least he waive solicitor-client privilege.
Steve Kennedy
@Daryl McBride
No he won't. He would prorogue parliament, like he did twice.
No he won't. He would prorogue parliament, like he did twice.
Chance Johnstone
@Steve Kennedy
All good moves for the good of the Country.
All good moves for the good of the Country.
Graham Greene
@Chance Johnstone
And that is what I feel Trudeau is doing by maintaining control of this file.
Its all for the good of the country.
And that is what I feel Trudeau is doing by maintaining control of this file.
Its all for the good of the country.
Chance Johnstone
@Graham Greene
SNC Lavalin is not "the country"
SNC Lavalin is not "the country"
Steve Kennedy
@Chance Johnstone
When thousands of good paying jobs are on the line, it sure is.
When thousands of good paying jobs are on the line, it sure is.
Myke Lee
@Steve Kennedy wow....
Barry Martini
@Steve Kennedy
EXACTLT....and deferred prosecution is STANDARD in cases like this.
EXACTLT....and deferred prosecution is STANDARD in cases like this.
Chance Johnstone
@Steve Kennedy
No jobs are being lost. Their workers can work at other firms or the new owners of SNC when that happens. Unlike the energy sector this move does not cripple an industry.
No jobs are being lost. Their workers can work at other firms or the new owners of SNC when that happens. Unlike the energy sector this move does not cripple an industry.
Allen Hurst
@Steve Kennedy well 10,000
jobs lost in Alberta alone. 32,700 women lost full time employment in
the western provinces in the last two months.
Why are those jobs any less important?
Why are those jobs any less important?
wal wiseman
@Steve Kennedy thousands of
good paying jobs are not on the line. The jobs are Canadian
infrastructure jobs in Canada. The work isn't going anywhere, just which
Canadian company does the job.
Steve Kennedy
@Allen Hurst
You sound like those Alberta truckers, complaining about a lack of work when there are countless trucking jobs right across this country.
You sound like those Alberta truckers, complaining about a lack of work when there are countless trucking jobs right across this country.
Steve Kennedy
@wal wiseman
Huh, SNC is an international company.
Huh, SNC is an international company.
Jack O Hill
@Steve Kennedy
"When thousands of good paying jobs are on the line, it sure is."
So, none of those engineers will get picked up by the companies that take over the contracts?
Unusual theory.
"When thousands of good paying jobs are on the line, it sure is."
So, none of those engineers will get picked up by the companies that take over the contracts?
Unusual theory.
Jack O Hill
@Barry Martini
"EXACTLT....and deferred prosecution is STANDARD in cases like this."
Actually, based on the number of incidents, and the size of the bribes; they are almost certainly NOT eligible.
"EXACTLT....and deferred prosecution is STANDARD in cases like this."
Actually, based on the number of incidents, and the size of the bribes; they are almost certainly NOT eligible.
Nico De Jong
@Daryl McBride
Harper would win by a landslide if he was running in the next election.
Harper would win by a landslide if he was running in the next election.
Rick Guthrie
@Steve Kennedy
So it's ok to allow crimes to occur as long as it saves jobs. I see, ok, I understand now.
So it's ok to allow crimes to occur as long as it saves jobs. I see, ok, I understand now.
David Amos
@Rick Guthrie I certainly don't
Wilson-Raybould waited more than 2 hours for permission to attend Tuesday's cabinet meeting: sources
Ministers debated the optics of letting their former colleague address them after quitting cabinet
Jody Wilson-Raybould spent more than two hours waiting outside the cabinet room on Tuesday while her former colleagues hotly debated her request to address them about the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Multiple sources tell CBC News that some cabinet ministers were concerned about the optics of her unprecedented request to attend a meeting of the inner circle just a week after she'd quit cabinet.
Wilson-Raybould has been at the centre of a burgeoning scandal over allegations that she felt pressured last fall by unnamed people inside the Prime Minister's Office to intervene in the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin.
The allegations, first reported by the Globe and Mail two weeks ago, have rocked the government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and led Monday to the resignation of the prime minister's long-time friend and senior adviser, Gerald Butts — who continued to deny the claim that he or anyone else in his office pressured Wilson-Raybould over SNC-Lavalin.
Power and Politics
Feb. 19: Jody Wilson-Raybould speaks to cabinet
One of Trudeau's cabinet
ministers Ralph Goodale discusses his former colleague's surprise
appearance today. Plus: Eric Grenier on the controversy's impact on the
polls, and a pro-pipeline convoy arrives in Ottawa. 1:42:51
The sources tell CBC that Wilson-Raybould contacted the prime minister the next morning, just before the cabinet meeting, asking to attend.
The prime minister took her request to cabinet, sparking a vigorous debate.
The sources say Labour Minister Patty Hajdu was among those arguing for giving Wilson-Raybould permission to speak to cabinet. The prime minister finally agreed.
It's the latest twist in a two-week long drama that's put Trudeau and his government on the defensive.
He's been subjected to an almost daily barrage of questions about what he knew and when, why Wilson-Raybould had resigned and whether he had pressured her personally in any way.
Trudeau's answers so far have done nothing to quell the controversy. He first declared the allegation was false but conceded a day later that there had been discussions in the fall with Wilson-Raybould about SNC-Lavalin's efforts to obtain a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) — which would allow the Montreal firm to pay a fine but avoid a criminal trial.
A week into the affair, the prime minister revealed that he had met with Wilson-Raybould on Sept 17 — almost two weeks after federal prosecutors told SNC-Lavalin it would not be invited to negotiate a DPA — and that she asked him if he was going to direct her to make a specific decision in the case.
The National
He's been called Trudeau's right hand man, so who really is Gerald Butts?
In a major shakeup to the
highest ranks of the Prime Minister's Office, Gerald Butts resigned as
Justin Trudeau's principal secretary. Along with Katie Telford, the
Prime Minister's chief of staff, the trio formed the centre of decision
making of this government. So who is Trudeau's right hand man? 2:24
Wilson-Raybould has declined repeatedly to speak publicly about the case, arguing she is still bound by solicitor-client privilege due to her former role as attorney general. She's hired former supreme court justice Thomas Cromwell to advise her on what she can say.
Trudeau also has asked David Lametti, Wilson-Raybould's successor as attorney general, for an opinion on whether he can waive the privilege without jeopardizing the ongoing court case.
Wilson-Raybould insists she remains a Liberal MP and on Wednesday attended the first weekly caucus meeting since the story broke.
She also has said she will appear as a witness before the Commons justice committee, which is looking into the allegations, but cautioned she will continue to cite solicitor-client privilege in answering questions.
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