David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks people arguing in CBC forums
24/7 should investigate matters themselves instead of
attacking folks trying to inform them of what they know about Higgy's
Police State N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/methinks-higgys-circus-must-go-on-and.html
#nbpoli #cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-death-long-term-care-1.5611120
Resident at long-term care facility dies from COVID-19, province announces 3 new cases
Death is the second in New Brunswick related to virus
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 13, 2020 2:21 PM AT
Another resident at Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville has has died from complications related to COVID-19. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
Another resident at a long-term care facility near Campbellton, N.B., has died from complications related to COVID-19, Public Health announced Saturday.
The individual, a resident of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, was in their 80s. The person is the second in New Brunswick to die from the virus.
"I was deeply saddened to learn of a death related to COVID-19 in our province," Premier Blaine Higgs said in a news release.
The news release does not confirm the identity of the person who died, but said the individual had been admitted to hospital.
Public Health also reported three new cases of the disease in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, on Saturday.
The three new cases include two health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and an employee at Manoir de la Vallée.
Their ages of the three new cases are as follows:
- An individual in their 20s
- An individual in their 30s
- An individual in their 50s
There are 29 active cases in the province. Four people are hospitalized and one person is in intensive care.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, offered condolences to the family and friends of the second person to die from COVID-19 in the province. (Government of New Brunswick)
Many of the cases are linked to Manoir de la Vallée.
To date, 36,605 tests have been conducted. Of the 157 confirmed cases, 126 people have recovered from the virus.
Campbellton Regional Hospital closes ER
The Vitalité Health Network announced its emergency room is closing effective 8 p.m. until further notice.Visits to the Campbellton Regional Hospital are also now prohibited, and all non-emergency services offered by the facility are cancelled until further notice.
"The Network has no choice but to take these measures immediately given the evolution of the spread of COVID-19 in Region 5," Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of the network, said in a press release sent out on Saturday.
Emergency services at the hospital are still open, but people with "mild symptoms" are being asked to contact their family physician, nurse practitioner or Tele-Care 811 before going to the emergency department.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
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Methinks little Lou
and her buddy Ray should find it interesting that the tally of comments
has climbed back up to where it was last night N'esy Pas? David Amos
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Methinks the RCMP
members who do receive my emails should agree that the desperate spin
doctors who tap on their keyboards night and day supporting Higgy's
Police State post too much N'esy Pas?Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Awww the big bad bully from Fundy Royal cant take a little of his own medicine... methinks
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: here are some of the wannabe constable's words tonight:
"How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?"
Methinks this dude is one of the tr o lls who has been cyberstalking my family and I since I ran in Fundy Royal in 2004 and then wrote Bryon Prior's defense and counterclaim for the Supreme Court of Newfoundland in January of 2005 N'esy pas?
"How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?"
Methinks this dude is one of the tr o lls who has been cyberstalking my family and I since I ran in Fundy Royal in 2004 and then wrote Bryon Prior's defense and counterclaim for the Supreme Court of Newfoundland in January of 2005 N'esy pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Not even close.
David Amos
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to @David Amos: Methinks the boss of the RCMP in the Fundy Royal Area
since 2015 who took a promotion and a transfer back out west in lieu of
retiring is well are that most Maritimers are in bed or finishing their
last Saturday night beers on a nice evening in June rather than wasting
their precious time posting mindless vitriol on the web about Byron
Prior and I. However Inspector Morgan must admit its still early in
Alberta and BC for the RCMP shills Ray and Durnford and everybody knows
they live on the Internet 24/7 Anyone can Goggle their names and mine
N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Reply
to @Ray Oliver: Tha " Dave whiner line " . Home of the Tony's and James
and Joe's and Paul's ! the conspiracy theorists and their unfounded ,
uninformed , and ignorant rants from social media experts with no
education no honest facts , just anything they can grab off the other
uneducated expertsay
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: Just tap Dave and " Fiction " or " UFO " !
Ray Oliver
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All your emails are blocked or go to the spam bin. Why do you need to
give the history lessons when attaching hotshot lawyers or cops names as
if you're on a personal level with them? Is that part of your
condition?
Lou Bell
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David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if folks truly wish to giggle they should tap in Lou Bell Higgy Cardy butter tarts N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks when the cows do come perhaps you should ask them to tap Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP so they can get a good laugh at your malicious nonsense last night N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Ray Oliver
Content disabledHes trying to intimidate you as he saves all these back and forths on his blog for his future cases hes busy building in some guy near Frederictons tool shed. Booooo
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks its fairly obvious that your desperate buddy "Ray' ain't got
the first clue where I am but your hero Higgy's buddies in the RCMP in
Hampton and Sussex certainly do N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos:
You sniff an election coming up so must be hunting for some new digs in
the Fundy Royal riding for a magical run to the Legislature. Will they
let you in the building if you win ya think?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
not sure what he's talking about with Hampton . I did read in the
Newspaper the other day where Minister Cardy indicated there were
unsigned messages of advice left for him in an aquaintenances mailbox
though ! Kinda lacks intestinal fortitude I'd think , not only to not
sign them , but also to not just deliver them to who they're intended
for .
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
However trust I will return to Fat Fred City to file 3 more lawsuits
when the time is just right. Methinks any old mechanic would agree there
is magic in good timing N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Its the Famous Amos butter tart recipe his clan has had tucked away for centuries..
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
A win would be getting at least 15 votes ! Let's see , there's Tony and
James , and Paul , and Joe. Might be one or two more , but that's it
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Move over Colonel Sanders , Private Butter Tarts is a comin' !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks its clear that you don't have the first clue as who I am do ya
but I trust that your lawyer does N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Well give him a touch of credit he placed better than the candidate who
ran on a knot sea platform last showdown.. movin on up! Rob Moore watch
ya back!!
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: "Private Butter Tarts is a comin"
Methinks you have it backwards on purpose it was Cardy and his buddies who sent me the butter tarts in the Canada Post before the election in 2018 and I posted the signed note and his emails about it on the Internet before i ran in Sussex against Northrup. The RCMP and everybody else knows that N'esy Pas?
Methinks you have it backwards on purpose it was Cardy and his buddies who sent me the butter tarts in the Canada Post before the election in 2018 and I posted the signed note and his emails about it on the Internet before i ran in Sussex against Northrup. The RCMP and everybody else knows that N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos:
And now you're sending along your own recipe cause their tarts just
weren't satisfactory. That's mighty neighborly of ya!
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP must have noticed that I am not feeding their tr o ll this evening N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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So that's the " Butter tarts " story ! : I never got Butter tarts ! Ray ,
did you get Butter Tarts ? Ray and I should be the ones complaining if
that's the case ! Of course I wouldn't have seen it on social media . I
don't believe in that false crap ! People need to stay away from that
stuff. Conspiracy theorists abound on those websites ! Tweety uses them
in America and we all know about him .
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks thats your problem not mine N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Content disabledReply to @David Amos: If the Liberals had gotten in I would have gotten a 130 Million Dollar bill for some " Phonie Games " ! And NO Butter Tarts to boot !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks if you had bothered to check my Twitter account long ago you
would have discovered that I have making you rather infamous simply
byway of republishing you words within the blog your buddy "Ray" (likely
Dean Roger Ray or his buddy Dan Durnford ) is harping about tonight
N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Content disabledReply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks
Tony Mcalbey
Covid19 is right up there as the hoax the WMD’s in Iraq was. I know no one who knows anyone with or had covid19.
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Yo oh ye whose many words often go "POOF" If your buddy Ray truly lived
in Fundy Royal methinks he would have informed you that the RCMP
harassing people at Timmies was a true story
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Last night you claimed to know nothing about my Twitter and blogger
accounts CORRECT? Methinks you must have found them today N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks you should have your lawyer review all your published words At
least your hero Higgy and his buddies in the RCMP have my emails and
knows where to find a true record of your malice Nesy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Not surprised . Few friends is a symptom of knowing no one with the virus
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Ah Dave's got a new recruit for the " Me Party " to follow his
blog . That makes ONE believer follower of his social media false
narrative social media rants .
David Amos
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Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Never read a word from either and never will ! Same with FAUX News and
all the other false narrative media sites . Although my intimating that
you now have one follower in Tony appears to confirm I was right !
Congrats on that one ! Joe and Jane and James and Paul are potential
false narrative " social media experts " who you should reach out to !
The types of ringers Trump goes after .
Justin Time
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Tell that to the 7,915,941 people worldwide that have been
infected and don't forget the 433,182 that have died.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Justin Time: Those numbers are way too big for Tony .
David Amos
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Fred Brewer
Reply to @Justin
Time: And it is widely believed that those number are on the low side
due to countries that just don't want to admit the real numbers and
because many have passed away probably from covid but were never tested.
Terry Tibbs
So
Mr Higgs, still no word when the tax paying, law abiding, residents can
hold a funeral for their deceased loved ones, but we can host tourists
from Quebec?
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks your buddy Ray who claimed to live in Fundy Royal last
night is no doubt packing his bags today and booking the next flight to
Alberta or BC before Higgy orders the minions in his Police Sate to do a
wellness check on him just like the RCMP pulled on me 12 very long
years ago N'esy Pas?
"Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks"
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Methinks you would have enjoyed the circus with Lou and her buddy
Ray late last night before it went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks folks will believe that you must be arguing with a ghost N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh so true Check my blog with the following title if you wish to chuckle all day
"Methinks Higgy's Circus must go on and on and on N'esy Pas?"
James Smythe
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Family is non-essential Terry, didn't you hear? Unless you're all
protesting together of course. Protip: rename your funeral a "protest",
then proceed as normal.
Terry
Tibbs
Reply to @James Smythe:
Or maybe a healing walk and the government will cover the air fare and expenses?
Or maybe a healing walk and the government will cover the air fare and expenses?
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Higgy must be upset at us nbers. I think a lot more people will
be leaving the province. Then govt wonders why young people leave, few
good paying jobs and now govt be over controlling.
David Amos
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"Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks"
David Amos
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Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
No one cares about the leader of the " Me Party " ! There over 749,999
other people to look after ! The " Me Party " is a self centered one
person party that has no interest in helping the other 749 ,999 N.B.ers
!!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: 83 % of N.B. ers approve of Higgs and the job he's doing ! BEST
in Canada ! Other than the Liberal backed Zone 5 COVID has pretty wll
been a no show here in N.B. ! People will be coming to the Province !
Safe and secure and as long as we keep the SANB Liberals and their
underhanded exploits away from the provincial coffers we'll be doing
great ! Being one of the 17 % dissenters isn't much of a confirmation
for anyone to accept any ignorant and uninformed ramblings from one of
those dissenters !
David Amos
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Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Don't worry about Lou. A broken clock is right twice a day, and holds a record that Lou aspires to
Don't worry about Lou. A broken clock is right twice a day, and holds a record that Lou aspires to
David Amos
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"Methinks Higgy's Circus must go on and on and on N'esy Pas?"
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: What a joke ! The blog everyone's laughing at !
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: True but you are one of the clowns they are laughing atFred Brewer
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: You are free to leave anytime Tony. I hear Montreal and Toronto
are nice, especially if you think covid is a hoax
David Amos
Methinks
all the usual suspects who argue every issue within the Crown's forum
24/7 should consider investigating matters for themselves instead of
attacking folks trying to inform them of what they know about Higgy's
Police State N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
You dig to the heart of what's really going on. You've got the inside
track. More importance and respect in your pinky toe that the rest of us
EH??
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You're a heckling spammer who's been told to cease and desist on a daily basis
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: David is a great contributor in a democracy. Refreshing to read his logical views.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for
Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap
tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting
president. LOGICAL. LOL.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you have had a few to many cold ones this evening
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Its all there for anyone to read. I wish I was joking.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks rather obvious that if your buddy "Ray" truly thought I was you he would not have spent all day arguing you about a virus N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: No when someone makes a ridiculous point I feel I can chime in. Again.. this isnt all about you big shooter
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: How much do you know about what your buddy "Ray" is referring to?
"Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting president. LOGICAL. LOL."
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Do you even know who Byron Prior is???
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Didnt an officer say he spotted Bulger in Nfld? Yet he had been living in California in the same condo for 16 years. Can you get any further from Nfld in North America than that? Alaska maybe? LOL. Bounty Hunter what a good laugh. You know it's illegal in Canada right?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in Alberta should do a wellness check on their shill Dean Roger Ray N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in BC should also pay a visit on Bryon Prior's other buddy Dana Durnford as well N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that anyone can read your blog pull out the goodies then fire it out here. Anyone can do this the way you refer people to it.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Can't stop laughing ! You and Dave !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks i have the right to say the same about you and your buddy "Ray" N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: CRY ME A RIVER. Sound familiar famous amos the bounty Hunter extraordinaire??
David Amos
Reply
to @Lou Bell: Methinks its interesting that you claim to not follow
"social media" but claimed something else to another dude yesterday
N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Matt Steele: Dave has a social media fan I see ! A couple , you and Terry
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: Ray is not my buddy
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: and you are not me CORRECT???A G
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Has the doctor who started this cluster been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter yet?
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Has the doctor who started this cluster been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter yet?
David Amos
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Reply to @A G: WOW
James Smythe
Here are your CDC statistics from the US (population 330 million), where I'm sure we can all agree handled Covid much worse than we did in Canada, breaking down mortality per age group, current as of June 6, 2020: (2.11 million cases to date)
mortality as % of positive case #
Under 1 year old: 5 0.000237
1 - 4: 3 0.000142
5-14: 13 0.000616
15-24: 116 0.005498
25-34: 640 0.0303
35-44: 1649 0.782
45-54: 4588 0.217
55-64: 11,439 0.542
65-74: 19,857 0.941
75-84: 25,520 1.21
85+: 31,778 1.51
What you may notice from the data set, is that older people are more likely to pass away. And this holds true for natural causes, and all other infectious diseases. You can all calm down now. We've handled it better in Canada, your risk is likely lower than the chart presented. Can't wait for all the confirmation bias displays below this comment.
Bob Smith
Reply to @James
Smythe: Uh huh...how's that data for vaccinations for the Covid virus?
Oh, right, none. I know that anyone treating this as serious is a waste
of time when talking to folks like you so I'll ignore you from now on.
Richard Cyr
Reply to @James Smythe:
+10 likes for crushing their illusions.
+10 likes for crushing their illusions.
David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Well done
Lou Bell
Reply
to @James Smythe: Your uninformed figures say nothing about those who
will suffer from the long term affects of having COVID. All you have is
the deaths , not including what is speculated to be thousands more who
died and are now suspected to have had COVID ! You're the expert , tell
us how many who had the virus and are now being revealed as having
damage done to multiple organs ! C'mon Jimmy tell us !!!
Fred
Brewer
Reply
to @James Smythe: Too many people are way too focused on only mortality
of the elderly, and are ignoring the possibility of permanent organ
damage to covid survivors of all ages. The doctors are becoming
increasing worried about things like lung damage and a shortened life
span as a result of contracting covid 19. Covid is also believed to be
responsible for severe health issues that are cropping up in small
children.
James
Smythe
Reply to @Lou Bell:
They’re not uninformed Lou. It’s 3 months of aggregate data directly
from the CDC, accurate as of less than a week ago, and compiled in a
country who has done a worse job than Canada. You are displaying
confirmation bias and preferring to remain in fear. If you are 54 and
younger like I am, you have a 99.8% chance of survival, and the
healthier you are, the greater the chance you’ll live. Period.
James
Smythe
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: I think people like yourself are far too focused on the rare
complications. That’s all the media reports, the exception. You never
hear about the many people who had mild symptoms only and survived
without long term effects. We were lied to, and I know that’s hard for
you to process, but politicians lie, so does the news sensationalize,
and numbers don’t lie.
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @James
Smythe: Ever try Dr. Google for information about the long term effects
of covid on survivors? Please, do us a favour and only rely on credible
sites when you do your research on permanent effects of covid on
survivors.
Justin Time
Reply to @James
Smythe: Using the CDC numbers you refer to when the total US deaths were
95,608, and using the age group 45-64, which represents the largest
portion of New Brunswickers (30%) there were 16027 deaths in the US in
that age group. Thats out of a total of 95,608 deaths at that time.
Thats 16.8%. The 85 + age group showed 31,778 deaths or 33.2%. So it's
not just the elderly that are dying.
David Amos
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Reply to @James
Smythe: Methinks the supporters of Higgy's Police State suffer from
deliberate cognitive dissonance after partaking of Cardy's butter tarts
supplied by Big Pharma and served by little Lou a neigbour of his near
Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
Paul Milner
This
headline is so misleading. 80 and 90 year old are not dying of CV. They
are dying of old age/ complications. CV is the straw that broke the
camel's back, that's all. All these ridiculous headlines do is stoke
irrational fear. Comorbidity should be reported as its own statistic.
Meanwhile in NB over 3000 people have died of other causes this year.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Paul Milner: Did you read the ages of those who contracted it today, hmmm..?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Paul
Milner: Are you aware that in some parts of Canada 43% of new covid
cases are from young people in their early 20's? Are you aware that
covid mortality runs from infants to the aged? Anyone can get it and
anyone can die from it.
Denis LeBlanc
Reply to @Paul Milner:
Instead of counting deaths would you prefer some statistics like these
from recent studies? If you want to look at comorbidities, diabetics
which are uncontrolled are 13 times more likely to die and controlled
diabetics and controlled diabetics almost 5 times more likely to die. Do
you want to add them to your list of dying people of with old age
complications? I don't understand why you can't understand how well NB
had been doing by keeping the illness out of our long term care homes
and keeping our healthcare workers safe. Now we have we have an outbreak
linked to a long term care home and have two deaths. We also have 6
healthcare workers with the illness. We have a zone still stuck in the
"orange" phase and continuing to suffer through the conditions. I think
it is not misleading but reality. It points out how fragile our recently
gained freedoms can be taken back should they fail to control this
outbreak or if a second wave happens! Its pretty apparent why these are
newsworthy and not misleading. In these days of hypersensitivities I
find your view that someone that is old or sick borders on offensive.
That these people should die because of someone's error in judgement or
that families be separated because of quarantine is tragic. Of those
3000 people who died this year in NB. How many died because of errors in
judgement, or their death caused the separation of family members? They
can't even attend a funeral in Zone 5! Maybe you should just keep your
feelings to yourself instead of publishing them where all you friends
and family can read them.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Fred Brewer: just like cancer but the economy isn’t shutdown.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: How does Cancer spread Dr. Mcalbey? Enlighten me. If I have
lung cancer and go to a funeral will 150 or so people catch it from
me???
Denis LeBlanc
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Again with the economy vs health argument. Please tell all of
us how much money you think your life is worth? If that's too difficult
for you to guess, how about how much money should we spend on health
care to cure your illness. There's not shortcut here. Either we control
this pandemic or we overrun our hospitals and there will be no customers
for your precious economy. You decide.
Justin Time
Reply to @Paul
Milner:from cbc story. "At birth, the life expectancy of the average
Canadian is around 82 years. But according to Statistics Canada, someone
who has defied those odds by making it to 84 — the median age of a
COVID-19 victim — can still expect to live another eight years or so.
That's a long time. A grandparent or great-grandparent can attend a lot of graduations, weddings and births over eight years. That amount of time — even a significantly shorter amount of time — can make the difference between someone being known to their grandchildren only through old photographs and having an important and enduring impact on their lives."
That's a long time. A grandparent or great-grandparent can attend a lot of graduations, weddings and births over eight years. That amount of time — even a significantly shorter amount of time — can make the difference between someone being known to their grandchildren only through old photographs and having an important and enduring impact on their lives."
Paul
Milner
Reply to @Bob Smith:
contracting it means nothing. 99.9995% of those who contract it will not
die. Enough of the irrational fear. You are more likely to die in a car
accident any day of the year.
Paul
Milner
Reply to @Fred Brewer: are you aware that most of us already had it and are fine?
Paul
Milner
Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: I"ll keep my feelings to myself if you do. deal?
Paul
Milner
Reply to @Denis
LeBlanc: yes, our hospitals are terribly overrun..... I know doctors
struggling to maintain their practice in this province because there are
no people coming to see them...
Reply to @Paul Milner: The death rate in Canada for those who contract covid-19 currently stands at 8.1%.
Paul
Milner
Reply to @Justin
Time: My argument is not that lives are not valuable, no matter the age.
My argument is that instead of dealing with the problem in LTCHs we
punish the healthy children by denying them simple safe activities out
of disproportionate fear. Let us choose what we are comfortable with,
that's all.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Justin Time: link to those statistics?
Paul
Milner
Reply to @Justin
Time: that is inaccurate. possible millions of us already had it and
were never tested. Confirmed cases will never be able to give an
accurate sample rate, because we can't go back and get a positive from
those who already had it.
Jackie
Barrett
Reply to @Paul Milner:
Worse of all, Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell didn't
apologize to Dr. Jean Robert Ngola Monzinga for accusing him of
something he didn't do.
A few days ago, Dr. Ngola revealed based on investigative evidence that he was not responsible for New Brunswick's second COVID-19 wave.
While Ngola can still have a fine for failing to self-isolate, he can no longer be charged for the recent outbreaks and deaths.
Source: CBC New Brunswick "Doctor disputes he's 'patient zero' in Campbellton COVID-19 outbreak, seeks apology" - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-campbellton-doctor-jean-robert-ngola-premier-apology-1.5605985
A few days ago, Dr. Ngola revealed based on investigative evidence that he was not responsible for New Brunswick's second COVID-19 wave.
While Ngola can still have a fine for failing to self-isolate, he can no longer be charged for the recent outbreaks and deaths.
Source: CBC New Brunswick "Doctor disputes he's 'patient zero' in Campbellton COVID-19 outbreak, seeks apology" - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-campbellton-doctor-jean-robert-ngola-premier-apology-1.5605985
Paul
Milner
Reply to @Jackie
Barrett: yes, that's a terrible situation. Political people apologizing
is unfortunately uncommon. It would be so simple to just admit that they
overblew the risk, and now we need to simmer down.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Jackie
Barrett: Higgs and Russell never said that Ngola was patient zero. They
said that he was irresponsible, which he was. Social media took the
patient zero theory and ran with it. It's also social media that
released his name, which Higgs and Russell had not done. Maybe everyone
who participated in this on social media should apologize?
Justin Time
Reply to @Paul
Milner: Those numbers are based on known cases only, how many more
there are that are/were infected but have never been tested would be
impossible to know, so why guess. And you CAN test those who may have
already had it because they would have antibodies.Not practical to do
but possible.
Tony
McalbeyJustin Time
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Any of the websites reporting Covid statistics will show you
the 8.1% death rate for known cases. The other numbers on age expectancy
come from another news article on CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid19-elderly-deaths-1.5542967
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: Do you believe everything CBC tells you?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Why comment and play on their news page if you don't read it for
current pertinent Provincial information? Methinks you just here to pump
your own tires as a great politician and legal beagle!!!
Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you’re jealous
Fay Briggs
Reply to @Jackie
Barret Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell have nothing to
apologize for they did not release the persons name. They just said it
was a health care worker at the hospital. Social media and CBC decided
it was Ngola. They are the ones who need to apologize to this man.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Hes a couch surfing user who plays helping the downtrodden for a
place to stay and mooch off of. How's Byron making out buddy he see any
justice at the hands of Just Dave?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Far from jealous if you see the spamming and CCs on emails he
fires around annoying people who could care less about the nonsense. I
feel hes jealous of them as he will soon be totally forgotten
Tom Campbell
Reply to @Paul Milner: Without the restrictive measures, the numbers would have been much higher. Everyone should knot this by now.
Tom Campbell
Reply to @Denis
LeBlanc: Couldn't agree more. These posters have been hammering these
repetitive posts out for over 3 months even though there is evidence to
the contrary in numerous countries.
Tom Campbell
Reply to @Fred Brewer: That's the case in Hamilton.
Lorne Allen
Reply to @Justin
Time: The 8 years figure is an average, some will live 1 more day,
some will live 12 more years or longer. It is most likely that those who
die with covid were on the short side of that statistic. it is a good
argument though if not looked at critically.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Jackie
Barrett: He is 100% responsible. The only thing he has told the truth
about was not being patient zero. His daughter was.
Justin
Time
Reply to @David Amos:
If you do enough looking you can distinguish fact from fiction ,
unfortunate for some. N'esy Pas? butter tarts, lawsuits, medicare card,
harley davidson, police state, mafia, massachusetts, nova scotia,
alberta, rcmp, etc.
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @Paul Milner: " most of us already had it and are fine?"
And where did you come up with that fact? Most of us have NOT had it and those that have had it, could have lifelong health issues and some doctors suspect a shorter life span.
And where did you come up with that fact? Most of us have NOT had it and those that have had it, could have lifelong health issues and some doctors suspect a shorter life span.
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @Jackie
Barrett: "Dr. Ngola revealed based on investigative evidence that he was
not responsible for New Brunswick's second COVID-19 wave."
So that's it? Just because he says he was not responsible we have to believe him? Since we know he was untruthful to border officials about the purpose of his trip and was evasive when questioned, his credibility is shot. If he was not responsible, then there will be a lawsuit and in court the truth will come out. Until then, when I look at all the evidence, I see his actions as the cause of the current outbreak of covid in zone 5. Patient Zero was his daughter.
So that's it? Just because he says he was not responsible we have to believe him? Since we know he was untruthful to border officials about the purpose of his trip and was evasive when questioned, his credibility is shot. If he was not responsible, then there will be a lawsuit and in court the truth will come out. Until then, when I look at all the evidence, I see his actions as the cause of the current outbreak of covid in zone 5. Patient Zero was his daughter.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Also, Patient Zero or not, he was irresponsible and not forthcoming and
broke the emergency rules and should have isolated upon re-entry to NB.
No one claimed he was patient zero, he started saying that as a way to
deflect from everything else. He's evaded questions still regarding
what he told the border guards, and what they told him.
I do hope they'll be a lawsuit, and all the facts will come out in court. Whether he was patient zero or not, does not change the fact that he violated the emergency public health rules, putting all of NB at risk.
He got caught, and is now trying everything he can to save face, but he did what he did, and that is fact and he admits that he did not isolate upon returning from a personal trip, and that alone is enough for the backlash against him - regardless of if he was sick or not, or patient zero or not, or if his child was patient zero or not.
I do hope they'll be a lawsuit, and all the facts will come out in court. Whether he was patient zero or not, does not change the fact that he violated the emergency public health rules, putting all of NB at risk.
He got caught, and is now trying everything he can to save face, but he did what he did, and that is fact and he admits that he did not isolate upon returning from a personal trip, and that alone is enough for the backlash against him - regardless of if he was sick or not, or patient zero or not, or if his child was patient zero or not.
James Smythe
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: I mean, you believe the news that there's a serious pandemic
going around, so that statement should be all you need to hear since
you're so willing to believe what you've been told.
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: And your point is???Justin Time
Reply to @David Amos:
My point is that I follow the old school rule of "Believe nothing that
you hear and only half of what you see." Learn to filter information and
fact check.
Paul Milner
Reply to @Tom
Campbell: so what if it's way higher? A lot more people would need to
die before this was an actual "crisis." Certainly nothing close to the
scope of what we've done to suffocate this rural province. The situation
in NB could never be as bad as Italy, NYC, Montreal even if we tried.
We are simply set up so differently. It's a broad brush to paint all of
us the same way and it's simply not warranted.
David Amos
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Fred
Brewer
Reply to @James Smythe: Your logic is faulty. The doctor is in a conflict of interest whereas the media is not.
Tom
Campbell
Reply to @Paul Milner: You keep right on beileving that. With half the population sick at once there wouldn't be any economy
Bob Smith
A
few days ago, there were several comments saying, among other things,
that Covid was only contracted by the elderly or already sick. Sad to
see an article like this which shows otherwise. I hope this pandemic
doesn't lead to more deaths in NB.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Bob Smith: Whoever you reference was likely just playing with you. Irrelevant.
Bob Smith
Reply to @JoeBrown: No, they were quite serious in a "know it all" way.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Bob Smith: Methinks that is an understatement N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Very disturbing are the continuing cases with the Healthcare workers at the Hospital . May need to be addressed by Vitalite' . Their " different strokes for different folks " re Locums appears to be not working .
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Proof that the continuing cases at the hospital are due to in-coming
locums vs infections already existing in Zone 5 = ?
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Could be . the big concern is that so far it's only been
hospital staff . What happens when it gets to the patients . Also , how
is the virus spreading amongst the patients in the long term care homes ?
Person to person or is there any possibility it can be spread through
the ventilation system ? Not sure if the home would have one or not .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: home , not homes .
JoeBrown
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Dementia patients are hard to keep safe because they don`t remember or
understand anything. Lots of people in there have dementia and an
earlier death had it so that might be why it is spreading. Most n homes
in Canada that got an outbreak ended up with more and even lots of
cases, fwiw.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @JoeBrown: and why are we shutting down the economy for these people is not logical
JoeBrown
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: More cerb per capita in NB. Higgs has highest popularity so
most people must like being broke or do not understand.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Lou Bell:
NS first case in 4 days at Norwood again. Half of them must be immune
now but it is a big place and covid never stops.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Yeah, NS got another case in Norwood today, so those places are
inevitable covid magnets but it is a different world outside and the
shut down should end.
Paul Milner
Reply to @JoeBrown: You're spot on. How did we fall this far?
doug kirby
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: have no idea why other than to force nb broke obviously...now
the man is allowing Quebec in to travel which by the way is the correct
thing to do ....however what is interesting to many people now is could
the list be posted as to who higgs thinks is more important than the
next and where is it written he has a say....there is more wrong than
right happening now with this virus...unfortunately it got into a long
term home and so sorry to hear but it will be contained and you will
learn to live with this but my god people wake up....you seriously don’t
have to be dictated to especially by a man who believes he is the prime
minister or something.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
You and I have the luxury of being able to feed ourselves, dress
ourselves, bath ourselves and relieve ourselves without close contact
from care workers. People in long-term care homes, not so much. I'm
sure that staff are masking, gloving, sanitizing and doing as much as
they can do to avoid the spread of infection. But nothing works 100%.
The fact remains that every time a staff member tests positive, all the
residents who were cared for by that worker are at risk. Every time a
resident tests positive, all the workers who cared for that resident are
at risk.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @doug kirby:
"especially by a man who believes he is the prime minister or
something" - I've never seen Higgs attempting to exercise control over
the federal government, as the prime minister does. As premier - the
prime minister's provincial counterpart - he has both the right and the
responsibility to exercise control over the province, acting within the
guidelines of provincial and federal law.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks you should take a break and come on down sip coffee with
Higgy's buddies at Timmies in Fundy Royal the RCMP won't bother you
N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Methinks you should never forget that your hero Higgy asked his
buddies the RCMP to put down their donuts and investigate what when down
up north N'esy Pas?
doug kirby
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: exactly guidelines....he should follow them
JoeBrown
Reply
to @Paul Milner: Easy to spread in homes, because virus is invisible
and dementia patients are hard to take care of. They don't understand
anything but need to be fed, get sick, make messes, won't stay still,
some yell all the time, and need to be washed etc.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Paul Milner: Trudeau and the WHO. Both are lost.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks if you wish to review all that you posted last night your
buddy "Ray" can teach you where to find it N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
So sad and so avoidable
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Lou Bell: how avoidable? This virus been around for months. Government isn’t protecting taxpayersLou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: If you understood the rules and how they work , someone broke
the rules and this all happened ! Has been in the news for a month ! Pay
attention .
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Lou Bell: no way 1 person infected that many, impossible
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nfld? A couple months back? Where you been?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: And 1 person can give it to 8.. those 8 take it home to their
family and friends.. it becomes exponential. It all starts with 1 to
cause a flurry of cases again in any area
Bob Smith
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Newfoundland funeral...Nova Scotia and the Northwood home.
Quebec's disastrous decision to reopen schools during the pandemic. Want
more examples?
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: can’t blame 1 for infecting all
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: If the virus is known to have been under control and someone
who breaks the known rules is the reason it revives again.. then yeah. I
sure can. Be in the bridge protest or one whiny doctor
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Have you not heard of the term "super spreader"?
In essence when the doctor saw 150 patients and interacted with hospital staff, shopped for groceries and did his errands while he was infected, he became NB's first super spreader.
In essence when the doctor saw 150 patients and interacted with hospital staff, shopped for groceries and did his errands while he was infected, he became NB's first super spreader.
Justin Time
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Wrong. Catch up on the news. There are super spreaders and just
remember one infected person started this whole thing.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks you must understand the wannabe constable's wicked little game by now N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: A game you'll never win Methinks. Sorry. Me knows!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Why you responding to yourself on here? Can't you have that "wicked"
little chat with Tony right in your own head? Or is it a packed house up
there tonight?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Ray Oliver: you should know by now you’re wrong
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Hiii Dave. Dont make it so obvious. Rub those 2 clues together
try to run some different lingo. Not a soul would defend the guy.
Ray Oliver
Reply
to @Tony Mcalbey: You haven't been on as long as I've been calling out
the "fierce political animal" as he calls himself. Yet you know so much.
Hmmmm. Not hard to figure that out Dave Amos 2.0
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: "you should know by now you’re wrong" Methinks you should finally explain to me why you have allowed my political foes to falsely claim that I am you for so long N'esy Pas?
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Lol. South Korea super spreader post lockdown. Google it.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Click on their profiles and then mute them. I just did.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks everybody should understand why I don't feel bad about
the Johnny "Never Been Good" Almar muting me I bet the RCMP muted that
snitch out of the gate N'esy Pas? David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks it very comical that Almar argues you then tells your
buddy Ray that he muted you and I so he can't see our replies Talk about
sticking one's head in the sand and leaving one's hind end high in the
air N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-virus-pandemic-roundup-1.5609379
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province confirms new case at Campbellton hospital
The new case involves a health-care worker in their 40s who works at the hospital
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 12, 2020 12:45 PM AT
Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19, a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19 at the Campbellton Regional Hospital after announcing two health-care workers tested positive for the virus on Thursday.
The new case is an individual in their 40s, who is also a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. Vitatlié Health Network confirmed a health-care worker at the hospital was diagnosed with the virus on Wednesday.
"When outbreaks occur, it reminds us that we need to continue our efforts to prevent the spread of COVID-19," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health in a news release.
"We need to maintain physical distancing and practise good hygiene everywhere we go to avoid new outbreaks. We can be kind and continue to support each other through this pandemic."
28 active cases of COVID-19
There are 28 active cases in the province.The first in a cluster of cases was reported May 21 in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area. Many of the cases have been found at Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility in Atholville.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, is reminding residents to wash their hands and continue physically distancing themselves from others. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
One resident of the Manoir has died. Five people from the region are in hospital, one of them in intensive care.
There have been 154 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, with 125 who have recovered from the respiratory illness.
As of Friday, 36,125 tests have been conducted.
There could be more unknown cases lurking, epidemiologist says
An epidemiologist is warning New Brunswickers that there might be more cases of COVID-19 across the province.The province has seen a cluster of new cases of the respiratory illness over the past two weeks in the Campbellton region, but Dr. Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, said some people could be asymptomatic or only have a minor case of the virus.
"It would surprise me if we tested everyone in New Brunswick right now if we got zero positive cases," said Furness.
"Even if somehow there's zero circulating COVID we have to remember it's only a car ride or a plane ride away from a new case landing in the community and that's the new normal for a little while."
Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, says there are likely more cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. We just don't know about them. (University of Toronto)
Furness is warning New Brunswickers not to be cavalier about the COVID-19 virus, even if it looks like the outbreak is waning.
"COVID isn't gone, it's in the background," he said.
"And if we let it, it will come back. And it will come roaring back. And that's something that we're going to be coping with for some time."
Furness recommends maintaining physical distancing and wearing masks while out in public, even advocating for making them mandatory for stores.
This Fredericton entrepreneur from Dubai knew she’d have to shift her hijab business’s plan in order to survive the pandemic, so she started selling face masks. 2:26
"My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."
Last week the province announced that masks would be mandatory in all indoor public environments, before backtracking on the decision within 24 hours.
Furness said early studies have indicated that the virus is acting similar to other coronaviruses, meaning that there will likely be a lull of cases during the summer months.
But that could also mean the potential of a second wave, which New Brunswickers will have to guard against.
Furness says masks help people keep droplets to themselves during the COVID-19 era. (Elizabeth Fraser/CBC)
"The good news is that even if we're not being disciplined we will have, I believe, pretty substantial protection this summer," said Furness.
"The downside is that if we convince ourselves over the next three months that we've won and that we don't need to be vigilant we will set the conditions for a very vicious second wave in mid to late autumn."
Furness said there are promising signs that a vaccine could be developed within two years, but cautions that you still need to manufacture about seven billion doses.
In the meantime, governments will have to balance between implementing too many restrictions, which could lead to people not following any, and implementing too few, which could open us up for even more cases.
Furness is also hopeful Ottawa will keep the Canada-U.S. border closed in coming months.
"I think come the fall it's going to get awful," he said. "And I think this is going to be easily the largest loss of life in American history."
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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Lou Bell
Conspiracy theorists in full swing tonight ! RCMP goin' after Timmie coffee drinkers ! Aliens , cows , UFO's ! Must be a full moon tonight !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP in Fundy Royal for me sometime soon N'esy Pas?
Dave Corbin
Will the RCMP allow us to have our Tim Horton coffee sitting in our own truck in the parking lot now or is it just the Tim Horton's in Hampton that we are not allowed?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Dave Corbin: when and why is this happening?
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Corbin: RCMP dudes working for Higgy's Police State have threatened people at the Tim's Sussex too
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: what on earth laws are Tim’s coffee drinkers in own vehicles breaking ?
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ask Higgy and the RCMP
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: As I understand it, If it's a family member it's ok, ,but a non family member would have to be in the back seat, if you have a back seat. Re other Tim's stuff, in some places you're allowed inside, now can sit at a table etc., as long as you keep 6' distance.
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: FYI They both were sitting alone in their vehicles
JJ Carrier
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Some Tim's are requesting you stay six feet away from David Amos...Something about hot air with no substance or coherent presentation besides his own 'egobubble' that causes your TimBits to explode...
Ray Oliver
Reply to @JJ Carrier:
Just the smell of him alone will give ya that 6 feet. Can't manage a
haircut in 20 years or soo showering is most likely a biweekly event at
best!
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Not surprising that the CBC is allowing egregious personal attacks
against certain individuals. If I suggest that somebody might have an IQ
below 150 I get instabanned for being mean.
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Sure they have ! The same people needing ER service nightly at the
Sussex ER !!! It's so busy ! Busier than at Tims !!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: You're the guy spreading the GOSSIP ! You tell us
Lou Bell
Reply to @Dave
Corbin: Most likely Timmies doen't like nefarious looking characters
hangin' around their businesses and called the Police !
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Tell us what they threatened them with Dave ! Tell us who and exactly
what was said . Or , most likely , another social media conspiracy
theorist .
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Lou Bell:
"Trust that I called them and they can't deny we spoke" will be his
response. Oh the worldly advice he must yield. I should give him my #.
You hang up first. No you hang up Davey!
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks anyone call Google Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XoJJF7ImcM
"I have an incredible update to the story of Walter Matheson. He's the Hampton, New Brunswick resident who was ticketed almost $300 by police for failure to comply with emergency measures in a Tim Hortons parking lot while he ate his muffin and finished his coffee, completely alone in his car."
David Amos
Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks its not surprising that a lot of your nasty friends use fake names but at least I know that you don't N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: "Tell us who and exactly what was said"
Methinks even your nasty no-name buddy Ray or his MLA Mr Oliver can pick up their smart phones and say "Hey Google" then ask about the RCMP in Hampton and Mr Matheson N'esy Pas?
Methinks even your nasty no-name buddy Ray or his MLA Mr Oliver can pick up their smart phones and say "Hey Google" then ask about the RCMP in Hampton and Mr Matheson N'esy Pas?
James Smythe
What about the Great Wave of Kanagawa? Why is nobody talking about that?!
Evelyn Gaudreau
Reply to @James Smythe: humour is a very subtle art... not all attempts succeed.
David Amos
Reply to @Evelyn Gaudreau: Methinks its hard to love a critic N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Some , not mentioning any names , have no clue about what they're criticizing , just wanna hear themselves complain .
JoeBrown
"My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."
This is why the virus will never go away despite the fact this simple solution exists to cut spread. Most people don't care about others so won't mask up.
June Arnott
Reply to @JoeBrown: yup, selfish Canadians abound.
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: So you say
Tristin Time
Reply to @June Arnott: So you think masks are the cure for this virus?
JoeBrown
Reply to @Tristin Time: If she did believe that, she would have said that.
Michael Guravich
Hey, CBC, you need to separate yourselves from that lynch mob that wanted to crucify the doctor “that travelled to Quebec”. If you don’t know by now, there’s credible information that he may have had nothing to do with the recent Region 5 cluster. Get yourselves caught up and stop peddling that Higgs hysteria. There were lots of others going back and forth across that bridge, every day.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Michael Guravich: well said
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: There's a huge difference between participating in a "lynch
mob" that wants to "crucify" someone - anyone - and holding people
accountable for their actions. Whether or not the doctor was patient 0
is under investigation. It *is* known that he lied to border officials.
And obviously he *did* have something to do with the Zone 5 cluster:
he was one of the earliest cases involved in it. The use of
inflammatory language, whether pro or con, does nothing to clarify the
situation.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: His P.I. came up with a few " scenarios " that " could
possibly have happened " ! It very may have been his child ! I believe
he/ she was the 1st person announced ! And who was responsible for
bringing her in from Quebec ? He lied to border officials and who knows
all else that he did ! I'll trust those responsible for the contact
tracing than some spin doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise
!
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Lou Bell:
"I believe he/ she was the 1st person announced !" - We know that the
first person announced was a child, both of whose parents were
healthcare workers. I've never read a credible source stating that
these parents were in fact the doctor and his wife. I'd respectfully
suggest that this is the kind of speculation we need to put on hold
while the investigation proceeds.
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: As I said , I have faith in the contact tracing that was done by
the Dept. of Health and they haven't said or done anything that would
indicate there's anything different ! The only thing we've heard is his
HIRED P.I. said there could be other scenarios. If it wasn't him I'd
bet my money it was his child . Funny the P.I. made no mention of that !
Filip Krynick
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: "Ngola said he drove straight there and back with no stops and
had no contact with anyone" now he's saying that people he came contact
with in quebec are tested negative... so was it no contact or with
contact.
Chris Jones
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Why would you have faith / trust for people responsible for contact
tracing, when it's clear they don' t have (or haven't released) any hard
evidence. It's complete speculation at this point. There's been no
charges laid to this point, which indicates they don't have the firm
evidence to say it was the Dr in question.
There's a reason why the justice system is "Innocent until proven guilty". There's certainly flaws within the court systems, but it's still a hell of a lot better than vigilantism rules and accusations.
There's a reason why the justice system is "Innocent until proven guilty". There's certainly flaws within the court systems, but it's still a hell of a lot better than vigilantism rules and accusations.
Monsieur Rioux
Reply to @Michael
Guravich: Could somebody clarify please. Was it not reported that after
the second long period with no new cases, a child (with a connection to
do different day cares) was a new live case and that the child's parents
didn't understand how because they had taken all precautions.
Were we not then told that a doctor had travelled outside the province, had misled the border officials and then failed to self isolate, followed by the revelation that the doctor was the child's father?
While people have been unable to visit ill and dying relatives and even attend funerals LOCALLY, the child's mother saw fit to fly to another continent for a funeral with the doctor facilitating this action, potentially coming back into NB two people with the virus (he and child), with neither isolating.
Am I remembering this incorrectly or was it reported this way but then retracted?
Were we not then told that a doctor had travelled outside the province, had misled the border officials and then failed to self isolate, followed by the revelation that the doctor was the child's father?
While people have been unable to visit ill and dying relatives and even attend funerals LOCALLY, the child's mother saw fit to fly to another continent for a funeral with the doctor facilitating this action, potentially coming back into NB two people with the virus (he and child), with neither isolating.
Am I remembering this incorrectly or was it reported this way but then retracted?
Monsieur Rioux
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: I believe it was eventually reported, a few days after the news
about the doc surfaced, on these very pages that it was father and
child.
David Amos
Reply to @Michael Guravich: YUP
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Lou Bell:
" I'll trust those responsible for the contact tracing than some spin
doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise !"
You didn't include the keyboard cowboys who no doubt get their impressive knowledge from the flatulate wind that blows when they raise a leg slightly from their chair.
You didn't include the keyboard cowboys who no doubt get their impressive knowledge from the flatulate wind that blows when they raise a leg slightly from their chair.
David Amos
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Oh My My
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: Look! There's one now!
Graham MacNab
Reply to @Michael Guravich: What credible information? The info from the Private Investigator that he hired?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: According to Dr Ngola, as reported by the CBC June 2, he was contacted on May 25 and told that one of his patients had tested positive. He then had himself and his daughter tested. They too both tested positive. However, the first case of COVID in the outbreak, the case of a child who'd attended two different daycares, was reported May 21. Therefore this child was not the doctor's daughter, because she wasn't tested until the 25th or 26th (assuming that the doctor is telling the truth re: her testing date, but he'd be foolish to lie about something so easily verifiable). It *might* be that the child in the first case was another child of the doctor's, but I've never read this in any reliable source.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Graham
MacNab: If you read Dr Ngola's statements to the CBC closely, *all* that
the PI found was that there are other possibilities to Dr Ngola being
patient 0. Until these possibilities are investigated further, we
simply don't know whether or not the doctor was patient 0.
Monsieur Rioux
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: When the child's positive test was announced, it came with "both parents are health care workers at the hospital" and then when it was announced that a health care worker at the hospital had previously been out of NB and back without isolating and had returned with his daughter, one didn't need to be too cynical to assume that the child was his.
However, a key factor is that with each announced subsequent positive test and contact tracing in the early cases, before it took hold in the care home, it was stated that each person testing positive had contact with the person reported previously who had failed to isolate upon returning to the province.
My newspaper and CTV have reported one child only in this batch of positive results.
John Oliver
Reply to @Monsieur
Rioux: If you travel to Longueuil and then stop to discuss job
opportunities in Trois-Rivieres. I am going to be skeptical that you are
not the source of the infection. It would be best if his ex-wife could
be tested, as well. The child is potentially patient zero, not the
doctor. He travelled as late as May 16.
The Campbellton COVID-19 cluster started when a child in the Campbellton region was diagnosed on May 21. Five days later, an individual in their 90s tested positive in the same zone. The next day, the province announced a person in their 50s had tested positive.
During the week of May 10, he drove to the Montreal suburb of Longueuil to pick up his daughter after her mother had to leave the country for a family emergency. There, he said he limited his contacts to the 4-year-old and his brother, who had been caring for her.
On his way back, he stopped in the city of Trois-Rivières to meet with two fellow physicians for a discussion about the pandemic and possible future work in Quebec. A private investigator hired by Mr. Ngola’s lawyer said the meeting took place in a local clinic for about 20 minutes.
The Campbellton COVID-19 cluster started when a child in the Campbellton region was diagnosed on May 21. Five days later, an individual in their 90s tested positive in the same zone. The next day, the province announced a person in their 50s had tested positive.
During the week of May 10, he drove to the Montreal suburb of Longueuil to pick up his daughter after her mother had to leave the country for a family emergency. There, he said he limited his contacts to the 4-year-old and his brother, who had been caring for her.
On his way back, he stopped in the city of Trois-Rivières to meet with two fellow physicians for a discussion about the pandemic and possible future work in Quebec. A private investigator hired by Mr. Ngola’s lawyer said the meeting took place in a local clinic for about 20 minutes.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: Serious accusations - let alone legal charges - should never be based on assumptions.
David Amos
Reply to @Graham
MacNab: Methinks your heroes in the RCMP cannot deny that over a year ago
I made Higgy et al well aware that the Private Eye and i have old
business from way back when he was the boss of IMET Obviously that was
long before he took this latest gig on behalf of a traveling doctor
N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-cases-campbellton-region-1.5608069
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 2 employees at Campbellton hospital test positive
There are 29 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 11, 2020 4:28 PM AT |
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, has said there will be more cases of COVID-19 in the future and residents need to remain vigilant. (Government of New Brunswick)
The province will extend its state of emergency for another two weeks after Public Health announced two new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region Thursday.
The new cases are two employees at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. One person is in their 30s and the other is in their 40s.
"All of the stakeholders at the Campbellton Regional Hospital are mobilized to ensure that everything is in place to provide quality care and ensure the safety of patients and staff," said Gilles Lanteigne, chief executive officer of Vitalité Health Network.
"Our processes are in place, our staff are trained and have the personal protective equipment they need to do their jobs. I am confident that we will get through these difficult times."
Three people have recovered from COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, keeping the total number of active cases in New Brunswick at 29.
Since March, there has been 153 cases of COVID-19 in the province, including one death.
Two staff members at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
"This is an evolving situation at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and everyone must watch for symptoms since COVID-19 is going to be with us for a long time," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health.
As of Thursday, 35,753 tests have been conducted for the respiratory virus.
Red Cross tries to help seniors feel less isolated
The Red Cross is starting a program to help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 outbreak.The Friendly Calls program will see isolated seniors matched with volunteers from the Red Cross.
Volunteers will regularly call seniors to check in and talk. The goal is to reduce feelings of isolation in a group that is particularly at risk of COVID-19 and who might already have felt isolated.
"It's just someone to talk to for those folks who have no one to talk to," said Bill Lawlor, provincial director of the Red Cross.
"They don't have family around, at least in the Atlantic provinces. Or they don't have family at all. No one to provide that type of support."
Seniors or their families can call the Red Cross and go through a short introductory interview to make sure they're a good fit for the program.
After that, seniors are matched with a volunteer.
"We find a volunteer who can meet the schedule, try to see if we can meet some similar personality traits as much as possible, and then we'll give it a trial run," said Lawlor.
"If it continues to work well then they'll just carry on … if not, that's ok. We can switch out."
Provincial Red Cross director Bill Lawlor said the new Red Cross program will help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 pandemic. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
While the goal of the program is to ease feelings of isolation, Lawlor said similar programs in the past have helped in other ways, such as detecting early stages of memory loss.
"In the course of a conversation, you can start to pick up things that might suggest that someone is not feeling well, but they haven't made an appointment with their physician," said Lawlor.
Lawlor doesn't have concrete numbers for how many volunteers are needed but is urging anyone interested to call the Red Cross.
He also urges family and friends to talk to seniors about joining the program, particularly those who are shy
"There's those folks who could really benefit from this interaction who you know they won't call," said Lawlor.
"They don't feel they will benefit from it even though clearly they could."
New Brunswickers encouraged to renew licences
The province is urging people to renew licences, registrations, certificates and permits that had their expiration dates extended until the end of June due to the COVID-19 pandemic.Waiting until the end of June could cause delays, particularly for driver's licences, which take two weeks to process and be mailed out.
The province said Service New Brunswick has been increasing the number of services it offers online and through Teleservices, especially for some of its most requested renewals, such as driver's licences.
"Online and Teleservices are the most accessible, safe and convenient service methods," said Service New Brunswick Minister Sherry Wilson in a news release
"Based upon the significant increase in these methods, we believe New Brunswickers are embracing them."
Twelve centres offer in-person services, by appointment only, for things that cannot be completed online or through Teleservices.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
Methinks as the stock market go down again all the MLAs, bureaucrats, unions and teachers etc regret allowig Higgy to put their money into a shared risk pension plan but at least my fellow taxpayers should be grateful that we no longer have to make for their losses like Victor Boudreau did with his budget in 2009 N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
What's with NB Power sending so many ppl home at Pt Lepreau and Coleson Cove? Warehousing patronage appointments all of a sudden has become unsafe?
David Amos
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Methinks the RCMP and their Fed bosses are beginning to figure out that Higgy cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone except Bruce Northrup N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @David Amos:
We shut our entire economy down, lost all of our jobs and put ourselves in astronomical amounts of debt for a “disease” that kills less people than daily life does.
It's past time to get back to normal and let the cards fall as they might.
David Amos
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Methinks the RCMP and Higgy et al will enjoy their email tomorrow N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks they've been blocked from you for many many years. No one cares.
David Amos
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Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is even more annoying N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
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Reply to @David Amos: big time annoying
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?
Joe Doe
Cleaning up the trash
Roy Kirk
How do his private investigators know that they identified all of his contacts in Quebec? What incentive did he have to identify every contact. Could he even remember every contact? And even if this is accurate, how does it excuse his failure to isolate after his trip?
David Amos
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Reply to @Roy Kirk: Methinks as we watch the stock market nosedive again you can bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee Petrodollars that today I called the former RCMP BOSS OF IMET who is the special investigator in this matter and the doctor's lawyer and asked them some tough questions before I sent them and Higgy et al another email N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Methinks as we watch the stock market nosedive again you can bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee Petrodollars that today I called the former RCMP BOSS OF IMET who is the special investigator in this matter and the doctor's lawyer and asked them some tough questions before I sent them and Higgy et al another email N'esy Pas?
June Arnott
Hang in there CAmpbelton , New Brunswickers Do care.
David Amos
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Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks if you had read another article or two about what going on up north you would understand that it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks if you had read another article or two about what going on up north you would understand that it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?
Joe Doe
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Reply to @David Amos: N’est-ce pas offensive to NB citizen. So annoying.
David Amos
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Reply to @Joe Doe: Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is eve more annoying N'esy Pas?
Albert Wade
Flew to Florida earlier in the week. Just back in NB, what's this about a border closure.
David Amos
Reply to @Albert Wade: Exactly
Joe Doe
Reply to @David Amos: yes. Great point. It begins.
Peter Smith
Decreasing, n'est pas? Erasing is fun.
David Amos
Reply to @Peter Smith: So you say
Joe Doe
Reply to @David Amos: so I do.
David Amos
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Reply to @Joe Doe: You changed names again I see but you smell the same
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Nope I'm still here but your fan club is growing. You are such a mo r on.
Glen Roberts
Guess the border being closed is not really working ...even with your new authoritarian government...
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
Really? The truth is offensive now?
Really? The truth is offensive now?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Truth hurts
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Glen Roberts:
Well you see Glen, you close the border, then you invent reasons to let a select few in, than your buddy down the street needs TFWs, so you let them in too, so finally you end up with a border that is closed to only the law abiding taxpayers, but no one else.
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
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Reply to @David Amos: Higgy can’t deny that
Reply to @David Amos: Higgy can’t deny that
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: My My Methinks its too bad so sad that so many nasty words go "Poof" before I can read them N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: My My Methinks its too bad so sad that so many nasty words go "Poof" before I can read them N'esy Pas?
Peter Smith
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Your constant N'esy Pas is offensive.
Reply to @David Amos: Your constant N'esy Pas is offensive.
David Amos
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Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks you forgot to ask me if i cared what you think of me N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks you forgot to ask me if i cared what you think of me N'esy Pas?
Peter Smith
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Reply to @David Amos: I didn't care what you think. Just wanted you to know that you are offensive.
Reply to @David Amos: I didn't care what you think. Just wanted you to know that you are offensive.
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you've got a real good idea on what I think of you by now EH. You are irrelevant in all areas of life. My guess is it's always been that way
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you've got a real good idea on what I think of you by now EH. You are irrelevant in all areas of life. My guess is it's always been that way
Peter Smith
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Reply to @David Amos:And I truly don't care if you care. Most people with Axis 2 disorders don't.
Reply to @David Amos:And I truly don't care if you care. Most people with Axis 2 disorders don't.
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: I'm so glad you have spell check using your phone. Your grammar on your blog is barely literate. Shows your actual level of intelligence.
Reply to @David Amos: I'm so glad you have spell check using your phone. Your grammar on your blog is barely literate. Shows your actual level of intelligence.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks its not nice to make fun of Axis 2 disorders Hence you must be a Higgy supporter just like your buddy Oliver N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Nice? Your behavior on here to pester people has gotten you your own taste of it. It's not nice of me at all. Trust that it's fun though LOL!!
Johnny Almar
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But the good doctor wants an apology. He’s a victim. : /
Ian Scott
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Reply to @Johnny Almar: He could well be. I doubt the 2 current workers got it from him. So the timelines, patient, and family exposure are key. No one knows what Momma's status is as she is out of country. Cross border traffic is perilous given know one seems to know what the close by Quebec communities that are supplying Campbeltown workers are doing.
Reply to @Johnny Almar: He could well be. I doubt the 2 current workers got it from him. So the timelines, patient, and family exposure are key. No one knows what Momma's status is as she is out of country. Cross border traffic is perilous given know one seems to know what the close by Quebec communities that are supplying Campbeltown workers are doing.
David Amos
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Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks its high time that your buddy Higgy suggests that you went "Poof: again N'esy Pas?
SarahRose Werner
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Reply to @Ian Scott: If the good doctor had nothing to hide, why didn't he come clean and tell the border officials that he'd been in Quebec for personal reasons? If they'd said he had to self-isolate and he didn't think he had to, he could have continued on home, called public health for clarification and then *done what public health told him to do.* If he'd done that, he would have been covered no matter whether new cases appeared or not. He's in a bad position right now because he got caught lying. He's a victim, all right - of his own poor judgement and dishonesty.
Reply to @Ian Scott: If the good doctor had nothing to hide, why didn't he come clean and tell the border officials that he'd been in Quebec for personal reasons? If they'd said he had to self-isolate and he didn't think he had to, he could have continued on home, called public health for clarification and then *done what public health told him to do.* If he'd done that, he would have been covered no matter whether new cases appeared or not. He's in a bad position right now because he got caught lying. He's a victim, all right - of his own poor judgement and dishonesty.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-virus-pandemic-coronavirus-1.5605834
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 4 new cases of respiratory virus in Campbellton region
Moncton-area case of COVID-19 announced Tuesday involved a temporary foreign worker
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 10, 2020 1:54 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health,
says there are four new cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. (Submitted by Government of New Brunswick)
Public Health has announced four new cases of COVID-19 in the
Campbellton region, bringing the total number of active cases to 29.
Dr.
Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said
two cases involve people in their 80s and two people in their 50s. Two
of the individuals are residents and the other two are staff at the
Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility home in Atholville in
Restigouche County.
"Today the people of Campbellton and the
Restigouche area need us to be there for them," she said during
Wednesday's news briefing.
On Tuesday, the province also announced one new case of
COVID-19 in the Moncton area, which involved a temporary foreign worker,
who has been self-isolating since they arrived in Canada.
Math, literacy areas most affected by job shuffle in schools
The province's decision to shuffle at least 70 jobs in anglophone schools will have the most impact on English and Math.Twenty-eight people working at the district level in literacy and 28 working in numeracy — they're known as leads — will be moved to other jobs in the school system because more homeroom teachers are needed during the COVID-19 pandemic.
The Education Department released the breakdown of affected positions on Wednesday.
Educational leads will be moved to other positions in the school system because more homeroom teachers are needed during the COVID-19 pandemic. (iStock)
"These changes will allow the experts who were previously working in district offices to work in schools, directly with the teachers and students," spokesperson Tara Chislett said in an email to CBC News Wednesday.
"With the current redeployment to schools there are still about 150 full-time equivalent subject lead positions within the districts."
Educational leads are trained teachers who work out of district offices and travel to schools to help other teachers develop curriculum and assist them with lessons.
Education Minister Dominic Cardy says school leads are being redeployed because of the COVID-19 pandemic. (CBC)
Earlier this week, the province also announced 10 respect and diversity leads will also be eliminated. They're responsible for coaching teachers and school teams about how to be more respectful and inclusive of marginalized students.
The latest cuts have been criticized by education advocates but Education Minister Dominic Cardy said the alternative could've meant not having enough teachers in New Brunswick schools in the fall.
Premier Blaine Higgs has been telling residents they need to remain vigilant until a vaccine is found for the novel coronavirus. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
Once students return to school, smaller class sizes will be required, which will mean more teachers needed in schools.
151 total cases of COVID-19
Twenty-one people connected to the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville have tested positive for COVID-19. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
There have been 151 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. Since the virus first broke out in March, 121 people have recovered, including one related to the outbreak in the Campbellton region, where there has been a cluster of COVID-19 cases.
Twenty-one of the region's active 29 cases are in the Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility home in Atholville.
Five patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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160 Comments
David Amos
Methinks the plot thickens rather nicely when Cardy the "pro-Big-Pharma" dude partakes of too many butter tarts and goes on and on about the notwithstanding clause much to Higgy's chagrin N'esy Pas?
"The latest cuts have been criticized by education advocates but Education Minister Dominic Cardy said the alternative could've meant not having enough teachers in New Brunswick schools in the fall."
Lou Bell
@ Ray Oliver You'll find Daves blog under "Surprise ! Surprise ! Methinks Martha and Daves Butter Tarts "
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: And i think he may have a new recruit . " Cranberry Curls " !
Johnny Almar
The reporters did a terrible job. They go to school and are trained to listen for what’s not said.
They did not ask how the foreign worker arrived in NB. If he flew here...what flight? What hub did he pass through? Have the other passengers been contacted?
Maybe he drove here, but UNLESS YOU ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION how can you do your job and report news properly?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Johnny Almar: TFW’s are brought to Canada on charter flights.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Flights that we paid for
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: Exactly
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: At least they'll work and get their hands dirty not couch surf and collect social assistance
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Are they cutting into your monthly check?
Cranberry
Wrecklaw
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
$11.75 an hour for 40 hours in a hot field is social assistance. Except
the social assistance goes to the farmer when he passes the costs of
his low wage labour into the taxpayers. You cannot live on $400 a week
in 2020 for that type of work. Then your employer goes on the news and
calls you lazy and unskilled. A wage increase? Why never! We have an
endless supply of labour, why would we ever increase your wages. So
nice for those NBers who do work in these industries that everyone else
doesn't think they ever deserve wage increase.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: Never said they didnt need a wage increase. Ask Higgs about
that standard. But his plate is full right with this whole pandemic
thing in case you been in a cave last 4 months.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: And to those people $400 is like 10 times that when they go
home. The only people unaffected by COVID are the wealthy and those on
social assistance. The benefits afforded to them by this Gov't and
previous ones doesn't make sense for anyone to make a change!!
David
Peters
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
The playing field is far from being level. Imo, many locals are being shut out from being able to reasonably participate in the economy.
The playing field is far from being level. Imo, many locals are being shut out from being able to reasonably participate in the economy.
David
Peters
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
It's not just the farming jobs, either. Virtually every form of labour like truck driving, mechanics, and restaurants.
We need a more level playing field between local job seekers and everyone else that's here working, imo.
It's not just the farming jobs, either. Virtually every form of labour like truck driving, mechanics, and restaurants.
We need a more level playing field between local job seekers and everyone else that's here working, imo.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David
Peters: Farm work and on the production line at lobster pounds..
Ganongs..Connors Bros.. we shall see how many are lined up with an NB
address these days. Its rare
David
Peters
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
More the merrier, on a level playing field...but we aren't talking about a level playing field.
This only benifits a few ppl who control those 'companies'. It's bad for everyone else.
More the merrier, on a level playing field...but we aren't talking about a level playing field.
This only benifits a few ppl who control those 'companies'. It's bad for everyone else.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David
Peters: No we aren't but when was the playing field level? Play the
game. Take the paycheck and try to enjoy the weekends. We are all pawns
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Wow. Where do I get a refund?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks it should be blatantly obvious to the RCMP that you are just like your old buddy Barry Winters and that you don't have two clues between your ears as to who I am N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks it should be blatantly obvious to the RCMP that you are just like your old buddy Barry Winters and that you don't have two clues between your ears as to who I am N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: 2 clues or 2 voices.. Methinks you've called me a few peoples but old detective Davey dont have a sweet clue nesy pas
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Don't bet on it
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I'll buy a new couch and blanket for the person you're currently playing if you do.. promise
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Say tell him to say Hey to Maddie for me will ya?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I'm a "fierce ethical animal" dont ya know?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks Chucky's buddies the wannabe phonelosers in Fat Fred City sent
to many dudes on pizza missions while cyberstalking my children over
the years N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: swing and a miss Davey boy. Strike one
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Nope my reply is still awaiting moderation
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Nope my reply is still awaiting moderation
David Peters
It's starting to look like viruses are an authoritarians' best friend.
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @David
Peters: Yeah I wonder if the people who were fined back in March for
driving in a vehicle with a non household family member are happy with
all the compassion we're being told to have for a doctor who still won't
just apologize. Instead he plays the victim. It's really sickening!
Blaine Higgs and Dr Russell have gone from hero to zero in my book.
David Amos
Reply to @David
Peters: Methinks the crisis was dreamt up for the benefit of the Police
State and their bankster buddies However recent protests/riots word wide
have put a whole new spin on things If the bedlam gets much worse south
of the 49th we may be grateful that our borders are closed N'esy Pas?
John Smith
Reply to @David
Peters: Blaine Higgs runs around shooting his mouth off about everybody
else being so irresponsible and this one landed on HIS doorstep. Why did
he allow this TFW to step off a plane with Corona virus? Does he REALLY
want to spread this infection around. Perhaps you are right. Blaine
Higgs hasn't seen a disaster, he didn't like.
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @David Amos:
I don't know if you've noticed, but we have a bit of bedlam in this
country as well. Everyone has lost their minds!
John Smith
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: ONE DOCTOR.... Have you read the newspaper lately Higgs has
allowed 20 some doctors to cross the Quebec-NB border without as much as
a test or a 14 day self isolation.
David Amos
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: Who is WE? I don't know you
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @David Amos: We as in people who live in Canada. Are you not Canadian?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: are you really Cranberry Wreaklaw? I think not
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Why do you care?
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: I really believe what I'm writing.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: honesty is the best policy per my mama
David Peters
Reply to @John Smith:
Wonder why doctor's aren't doing checkups through video conferencing?
Wonder why doctor's aren't doing checkups through video conferencing?
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: I'm a world where you can be fired from your job for not
believing in the single state approved opinion? In that situation
honestly is just s t u p i d.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @David Peters: or why docs, LTC workers and patients aren’t wearing masks?
David Peters
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
Samuel Clemmons went by Mark Twain while writing political letters...for obvious reasons, imo.
Samuel Clemmons went by Mark Twain while writing political letters...for obvious reasons, imo.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Call him. I heard he bought a new couch and has a free long distance plan
Lou Bell
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: A total wreck eh ! If you've been paying attention to the news
, they're tops in Canada ! 83 % to be exact ! Tough to be in that 17 %
I'd imagine . Love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @John Smith: Higgs didn't even want these people here ! It was the other leaders , and even you !
Lou Bell
Reply to @John Smith:
No Vitalite' did ! And the 4 member team that apparently didn't know
Vitalite' were breaking it's rules ! Time to try keeping up !!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: You're asking the wrong guy on that one !!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: My sympathies !!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Boy , you two sure are stretching it !! That social media can
be a powerful thing when it comes to conspiracy theories !!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Who is you two???
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: sorry. My bad. The voices. 2 I meant to type 12
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: sorry. My bad. The voices. 2 I meant to type 12
Matt Steele
The
Dept. of Education should have returned ALL the so called " teacher
leads " back to the classrooms . All schools have several teachers and
principals working there who have various ranges of experience who work
together , and assist each other as needed . The " lead " positions were
often awarded to teachers who no longer wanted to teach in the
classroom environment ; so they were given lead positions so they could
hang out in District Offices instead . If a teacher no longer wants to
work the front lines , and be assigned a classroom ; then does the
taxpayers really need to be providing that person with a govt. pay
cheque while they hang out at the district offices , and sub offices ,
while accomplishing very little
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Matt Steele: Cry me a river
David Peters
Reply to @Matt Steele:
An audit of the dept of education would help sort this mess out.
An audit of the dept of education would help sort this mess out.
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO Methinks its high time for me to blog, tweet and email again today N'esy Pas?
Scott Thomas
Reply to @David Amos: No - one annoying plague is enough for all of us. Nesy pas?
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Matt
Steele: agreed...... unless things have changed, but like 10 years ago
we had a surplus of teachers that could not find a job..... where did
they go
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Your following of 3 awaits you !!!!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Lou Bell: 3? That's being optimistic isnt it??
John Smith
How did this TFW get into Canada with corona virus? Wasn't he tested, Premier Higgs????"
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @John Smith: he was tested, otherwise why would the government announce a TFW has tested positive?
John Smith
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: where did he get it from if he did not bring it in with him? No
report of other workers being sick so common sense would dictate he
brought it in with him. Just shows how slack Blaine Higgs is with the
business community. He called the doctor from Campbellton careless. What
excuse does he have for allowing this man in WITH corona virus. Did he
not test him?? Guess not.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @John Smith: the TFW was tested and was positive, the government announced it.
John Smith
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: than he brought it here. He was not tested before he stepped
off the plane. Who is responsible??? NOT me.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @John Smith: you can be negative one day then positive the next. It’s a non issue in Moncton
John Smith
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: is that what Campbellton said when the doctor brought it over
from Quebec. Well that ONE CASE is now MANY cases.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @John Smith: a Canadian is a Canadian
Cranberry
Wrecklaw
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Not really. Am I supposed to believe that I have more in
common with someone in Vancouver than someone in Maine just because the
person in Vancouver and I get our passport from the same building in
Ottawa?
John Smith
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: EXCEPT he is NOT a Canadian. He is cheap labour that this business owner can abuse.
David Amos
Reply to @John Smith: Why did he come here then?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @John Smith: Higgy approved, don’t blame a business owner for following the rules.
John Smith
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: I am not blaming the owner. I am pointing my finger directly at Blaine Higgs, the Savior of NB.
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: have you ever met anyone from maine lol? the average NB has
far more in common with vancouver then our neighbors in maine....
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: I strongly disagree and think it's a little insane. Clearly you've never been to western NB.
June Arnott
Wonder if the workers in the home we out and about? Hope it stops soon
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @June
Arnott: I hope the workers treating the T F W don't get infected. How
many people have to pay to save the farmers a bit in wages?
Tony Mcalbey
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: maybe you should volunteer to pay
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Why would I do that?
SarahRose Werner
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: For a person in their 20s, it's quite likely that they're not
being "treated" at all unless they have an unusually severe case.
They'll be told to quarantine and do rest and fluids.
David Amos
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David Amos
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: Methinks I have the right to ask a person with a name I don't
believe what business is this of yours N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: methinks you’re the perfect candidate N’esy Pas?
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: methinks you’re the perfect candidate N’esy Pas?
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: I'm wondering if all the TFWs quarantine in one place together.
If that's the case then won't they all need to quarantine for another
couple of weeks? How much is this costing the taxpayer? If farmers want
to benefit from lower wages then they'll have to pay for the result of
that.
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: That doesn't make any sense. Why would I pay if I don't think TFWs are a good idea?
David Amos
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: methinks my political foes are gonna start accusing me of being
you again Perhaps you should finally fess up AS TO WHO IS TRULY WHO
N'esy Pas?
Cranberry
Wrecklaw
Reply to @David Amos: David I don't care what you think. Methinks you're annoying.
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Cranberry Wrecklaw
Reply to @David Amos: Who are your political foes?
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: That Mr Amos to you because we are obviously not friends
Methinks many would agree that person without the salt to have a real
name insulting anyone they wish in a public domain is far more anoying
that I N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: Tony here, everyone is jealous we’re up on the goings of the fiasco unfolding before our eyes.
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Who is WE? I don't know you either
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Cranberry
Wrecklaw: Methinks whereas Higgy et should at least affirm that I ran as
a independent 7 times thus far you should ask you MP and your MLA to
explain to you who all my political foes are.
TRUST THAT MY POLITICAL FOES ARE WELL AWARE i am a private person minding my own business and at the top of the list today is getting the "stay" on my medicare card removed ASAP N'esy Pas?
John Smith
TRUST THAT MY POLITICAL FOES ARE WELL AWARE i am a private person minding my own business and at the top of the list today is getting the "stay" on my medicare card removed ASAP N'esy Pas?
John Smith
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: quarantine. What's that says the slave traders.
Ray Oliver
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: you are a private person and mind your own business? Did someone hack your account??
Justin Time
One case was bad but with 22 doctors apparently not required to to self isolate peoples faith in the system and the job the government is going is falling daily.
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: Surprise Surprise Surprise
Timothy Kelley
Reply to @Justin Time: How much faith in the system would be lost if ERs are frequently closed for lack of a doctor?
Justin Time
Reply to @Timothy Kelley: How much faith would be lost if everyone of these ER doctors infected people with the virus?
June Arnott
Beautifully said Dr Russell.
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Yea Right
June Arnott
Reply to @David Amos: we all know how you feel about everything haha
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Why is it that I don't find you spin doctors funny?
June Arnott
Always late starting these things. Someone stuck in the bathroom?
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks they are usually delayed by reading my emails and listening to my voicemails N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You take pride in being a pest like that?
Ben Haroldson
Oh english and math aren't important anyway. Where do they get these guys. We need an election pronto.
Andrew Clarkson
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
Where do I go to sign your nomination papers? I will vote for you also, you seem to have all the answers to the issues that confront us in our day to day lives!
Where do I go to sign your nomination papers? I will vote for you also, you seem to have all the answers to the issues that confront us in our day to day lives!
David Amos
Reply to @Andrew
Clarkson: Methinks if I opted to run for public office again you would
not dare to sign anything to affirm my nomination but I bet Mr Haroldson
would in a heartbeat N'esy Pas??
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: What riding are you going to run in? Or do you know who's couch you'll be sleeping on come fall?
SarahRose Werner
It makes a good deal of sense to me to, in a time of crisis, pull experienced teachers out of the district offices and return them to the "front lines" in the classroom where they're needed most.
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Of course you hero would make sense to you
June Arnott
Has the education dept worked out how to allow teachers to speak out about issues yet? Or are those overbearing people still chastising teachers for trying to do their job better?
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks you are being a little redundant but welcome back to the circus
June Arnott
Has the education dept worked out how to allow teachers to speak out about issues yet? Or opiate those overbearing people still chastising teachers for trying to do their job better?
David Amos
Reply to @June
Arnott: Methinks Higgy et al know why the Minister of Health''s spin
doctor Bruce Macfarlane is gonna enjoy his voicemail when he gets back
from lunch N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-locums-isolate-vitalite-campbellton-worksafenb-exemption-1.5600532
22 out-of-province doctors for Vitalité did not fully self-isolate after travel
So-called locums did not have isolation exemptions, but are essential to maintain services, says CEO
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 10, 2020 9:07 AM AT
Locums for Vitalité have been allowed to isolate at work after arriving in New Brunswick, even though they have contact with patients and other health-care workers there. (iStock)
Twenty-two doctors from outside New Brunswick have worked for the Vitalité Health Network since the COVID-19 pandemic began without fully self-isolating for 14 days after travelling, says president and CEO Gilles Lanteigne.
Almost all of the doctors, known as locums, who fill in on a temporary basis, have worked in the northern part of the province, he said, including nine in the Campbellton region, where there is an outbreak of 24 active COVID-19 cases and where, last week, the province recorded its first death related to the respiratory disease.
The locums, who came from Quebec (16), Ontario (four), Nova Scotia (one) and B.C. (one), had contact with patients and other health-care workers because of the nature of their work, said Lanteigne.
But they were tested and monitored regularly and followed several "rigorous" conditions to limit the risk of transmission. For example, they did not use the same washrooms as other people or eat in shared spaces and had to self-isolate when they were not at work.
"I think we managed it well," said Lanteigne. "We were able to maintain some of the services that we deemed essential," despite a shortage of New Brunswick physicians, he said, noting about a quarter of emergency room shifts in the northern part of the province are filled by locums.
Provincial officials have linked the Campbellton outbreak, which started May 21, to a medical professional who travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and returned to work at the Campbellton Regional Hospital without self-isolating.
Dr. Jean Robert Ngola, who has had a family practice in the region since 2013, has been suspended by Vitalité, and the province has asked the RCMP to investigate whether charges are warranted.
The Campbellton region, Zone 5, remains in the orange phase of the COVID-19 recovery plan, with 24 active cases, but the rest of the province has moved into another level of the yellow phase of recovery, with just one active case in the Moncton region, Zone 1, as of Tuesday. (Government of New Brunswick)
A new confirmed case of COVID-19 announced Tuesday involving a person in their 20s in the Moncton region is unrelated to the outbreak in the Campbellton region.
The new case, which brings the province's total number of active cases to 25, is travel-related.
New policy triggered by 'concerns'
Vitalité did not obtain isolation exemptions from WorkSafeNB for any of the 22 locums, who fill in during an illness, absence or staffing shortage, said Lanteigne. "At that time, it was not required," he said.It was May 19 that the province's pandemic task force decided that "locums, short-term residents who are unable to self-isolate for 14 days prior to starting work, would be subject to WorkSafeNB's work-isolation policy," said Department of Health spokesperson Bruce Macfarlane.
The four-person task force created in April and given authority over all aspects of the health-care system's response, including health authorities, "had concerns" about the number of locums coming in from outside the province, he said in an emailed statement.
It discussed the issue on May 14 and decided it needed to "understand the volume of locums, the volumes of the different categories of residents, where they're coming from and for how long as well as the risks and impacts of bringing them into the province and their self-isolation requirements."
Bruce Macfarlane, Department of Health spokesperson, said the Pandemic Task Force issued a directive May 28 to make it clear that any health-care worker, living in New Brunswick and working in a New Brunswick health-care facility must self-isolate for 14 days upon their return to the province. (CBC)
It also wanted a consistent policy for locums applied by the two regional health authorities — Vitalité and the Horizon Health Network, said Macfarlane.
Under the WorkSafeNB work-isolation policy, the requests for exemptions must be submitted to WorkSafeNB two weeks in advance for approval and be accompanied by a plan explaining the measures that will be taken to reduce the risks, he said.
Vitalité and Horizon are responsible to have "an operational plan to support/manage" the locums while they are in the province, he added.
Horizon follows full isolation
The "small number" of locums Horizon has brought in from outside New Brunswick since the pandemic began have all been subject to 14 days of mandatory self-isolation, said Dr. Edouard Hendriks, vice-president, medical, academic and research affairs.Out-of-province locums were not eligible for the isolation exemption during the red and orange phases of the province's COVID-19 recovery plan, according to Horizon spokesperson Kris McDavid, "only since the implementation of the yellow phase."
Horizon currently has four locums from Ontario working within the organization — two in Moncton, one in the Miramichi region and one in the Fredericton/Upper River Valley region.
"Each of them have completed the required 14-day isolation period prior to beginning work," Hendriks said in an emailed statement.
The Horizon Health Network's use of locums from outside New Brunswick has been 'very limited' since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic and the coinciding restrictions on interprovincial travel, said Dr. Edouard Hendriks, vice-president of medical, academic and research affairs. (CBC)
Horizon anticipates the need for more locums this summer, he said.
If they have to be brought in from other provinces and "should the need be such where a 14-day self-isolation period isn't possible," Horizon will apply to WorkSafeNB for "work-isolation," Hendriks said.
Under this policy, locums would be authorized to go directly to and from work but required to self-isolate when not in the workplace for the first 14 days of their employment.
In addition, any locums coming into the province from so-called hot zones, where there are a significant number of COVID-19 cases would be tested for the coronavirus, and must remain in isolation until the test result is known.
No contact allowed
Asked to clarify what the isolation requirements for locums were before the task force's May 19 directive, Macfarlane replied, "This question should be addressed to the RHAs."WorkSafeNB also would not clarify the isolation requirements and exemptions for locums and other health-care workers.
The media relations representative said no one was available for an interview and directed CBC News to the operational plan, Embracing the New Normal. "It will provide you with information that may answer your questions. Also, there are several FAQs," the unnamed person said in an email.
The online document says people entering New Brunswick for work for a fixed period must self-isolate for 14 days before starting work, "unless the worker is a person entering New Brunswick under an arrangement with an employer previously approved by WorkSafeNB."
An employer must, among other things, ensure that any workers from outside New Brunswick self-isolate within the province for 14 days, or submit a plan at least 15 business days before they arrive that ensures for 14 days after they arrive that they are:
- Isolated from any New Brunswicker while they travel to and from their accommodations and worksite.
- Required to remain at their accommodations and isolated from contact with any New Brunswicker during work hours and while off duty.
7 applications for exemptions
Vitalité has submitted seven requests for exemptions to WorkSafeNB, said Lanteigne.Asked about Horizon's position that locums never qualified for exemptions before, he replied, "Well, it was different here."
Locums did qualify, he said, provided they went through a work-isolation. "Because otherwise, some services would have been closed."
Vitalité always tries first to find a New Brunswick doctor who can provide a required service, said Lanteigne.
If a New Brunswick doctor isn't available, Vitalité assesses whether the service in question is essential or could be temporarily suspended because of a lack of staff, he said.
Due to the physician shortage in New Brunswick, the Vitalité Health Network must frequently use locums from outside the province, said president and CEO Gilles Lanteigne. (Michel Corriveau/Radio-Canada)
"We are not in an easy situation, I think people understood this last winter," said Lanteigne, referring to the contentious emergency room reforms, which would have closed six rural hospital emergency departments overnight but were cancelled about public outcry.
Although Vitalité relies on locums largely to fill ER shifts, it has also called upon a gynecologist/obstetrician, a pediatrician, a psychiatrist, someone in medical imaging and a surgeon this year, he said.
Obviously, if we have a choice between a hotspot and not a hotspot, we're going to take physicians that is not from a hotspot.- Gilles Lanteigne, Vitalité president and CEO
If a service is deemed essential and must be maintained, Vitalité will then find a locum from outside the province.
"Obviously, if we have a choice between a hotspot and not a hotspot, we're going to take physicians that is not from a hotspot," said Lanteigne.
But looking at the list of 16 locums from Quebec, he noted six were from Quebec City, four from Montreal, three from Bas-Saint-Laurent and three from the Gaspé region.
"So we're very careful, but you know, as I mentioned, risk-free is not … an option here," he said.
"I think that people have learned that any travel can have consequences," he added, referring to the case of the doctor at the centre of the Campbellton outbreak.
"What I can tell you is that we make sure that our policies and procedures related to work isolation are respected."
Chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell also sits on the pandemic task force with Dr. Gordon Dow, an infectious disease specialist at Horizon; Dr. Nicole LeBlanc, Vitalité's chief of staff; and the chair, deputy minister of health Gérald Richard. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
On May 28, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell told reporters she wanted to "clarify the current policy around health- workers travelling outside the province.
"If any health-care worker living in New Brunswick and working in a New Brunswick health-care facility leaves the province for any reason — any reason whatsoever — it is mandatory that they self-isolate for 14 days upon their return," before going back to work, she said.
The province's pandemic task force had issued a directive to health-care workers that same day "to provide clarity," Department of Health spokesperson Bruce Macfarlane confirmed to CBC News.
"There were anecdotal reports that reflected confusion between the federal government's exemptions for essential workers at the international border and the provincial requirement for all New Brunswickers to self-isolate upon their return to N.B.," he said in an emailed statement.
Some exceptions
Despite Russell's blanket statement, there are exceptions to the mandatory self-isolation for health-care workers who live and work in New Brunswick.A health-care worker who crosses the border to provide care to a New Brunswick resident would be exempt, said Macfarlane, citing as an example a paramedic who transports a patient by ambulance to a hospital in another province.
Health-care workers who live outside New Brunswick but commute to the province regularly as an employee or medical staff member of a health-care facility would also be exempt.
"These individuals are reminded of the need to travel directly to and from their destination/work/accommodation, follow all guidelines for infection prevention and control and the use of personal protective equipment (PPE), self-monitor for symptoms, avoid close contact with vulnerable individuals (for whom they are not caring) and follow the guidance of the chief medical officer of health."
Stricter to protect most vulnerable
Asked why the isolation requirements are stricter for New Brunswick health-care workers who take a trip outside the province than for those who commute or for locums, he said the people most vulnerable to COVID-19 depend upon the services provided by New Brunswick's health-care workers on a regular basis."We need to ensure that patients and long-term care residents are protected as much as possible. With only a few exceptions, their work rarely takes them outside of the province.
"Non-essential travel has not been permitted under the mandatory order for some time, so there should be no other reason for them to leave."
Doctor speaks
Ngola, who is also known as Ngola Monzinga and as Jean Robert Ngola Monzinga, told Radio-Canada's La Matinale on June 2 that he made an overnight return trip to Quebec to pick up his four-year-old daughter because her mother had to travel to Africa for her own father's funeral.He said he drove straight there and back with no stops and had no contact with anyone, and none of his family members had any COVID-19 symptoms at the time.
Ngola said he did not self-isolate upon returning. He went to work at the Campbellton Regional Hospital the next day.
"Maybe it was an error in judgment," said Ngola. But he pointed out that workers, including nurses who live in Quebec, cross the border each day with no 14-day isolation period required.
He said he's not sure whether he picked up the coronavirus during that trip to Quebec or from a patient he saw on May 19 who later tested positive for COVID-19.
At a news conference May 27, Premier Blaine Higgs did not identify Ngola, but described his actions as "irresponsible."
Of the 24 active cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, nine cases were just announced on Monday. Eight of are residents of the Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care home in Atholville, where five other elderly residents and four employees have also tested positive. Resident Daniel Ouellette, 84, died last Thursday.
The ninth case is a close contact of a previously identified confirmed case elsewhere in the Campbellton region.
With files from Radio-Canada
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David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al know why Bruce Macfarlane is gonna enjoy his voicemail N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Yeah he will gather everyone in the office around.. at 6 feet of course
to be socially correct.. put it on speakerphone and all have a great
laugh. Good for office morale.
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks if he is wise he won't share with the in house gossips because
he does not know who to trust these days
I bet he has already read your comment and no doubt will mention your malicious nonsense to Higgy et al I would lay odds that he will call most the other MacFarlane dude I mentioned in my voicemail and I bet you know who i am referring N'esy Pas?
I bet he has already read your comment and no doubt will mention your malicious nonsense to Higgy et al I would lay odds that he will call most the other MacFarlane dude I mentioned in my voicemail and I bet you know who i am referring N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: YO Wannabe Constable Oliver Say Hey to your buddies the RCMP for me will ya?
Ray Oliver
Reply
to @David Amos: ohhh Davey boy. When will you learn your last 20 years
of crying wolf will get you nowhere when something real happens???
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: This is for real.
Methinks the RCMP, the FBI and both my Yankee and Canadian brother in laws all of whom can be found within my litigation should admit that desperate shills say and do desperate things N'esy Pas?
Methinks the RCMP, the FBI and both my Yankee and Canadian brother in laws all of whom can be found within my litigation should admit that desperate shills say and do desperate things N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply
to @Ray Oliver: Do tell do you really think your luck dealing with me
and the cops will be any better than the luck your old buddy Barry
Winters had???
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: wrong province. Here's a little hint for you to chew on. Outskirts of Saint John... ruuuuuunnn!!
Cranberry Wrecklaw
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Still totally unacceptable for the doctor to go to Quebec for personal reasons, supposedly l i e at the border, and then go to the hospital against the rules.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: Yea Right
Reply to @Cranberry Wrecklaw: Yea Right
Jason Inness
So,
a bunch of people have to lose their jobs to stay home, some people
have to take reduced hours, we can't gather for weddings or funerals or
even church. Our economy has been beaten half to death. We normal
people have sacrificed much so that our health care system and those in
it do not get overwhelmed.
Yet, those in the very health care system that we are making such sacrifices to protect are not following their own rules and guidelines.
Yet, those in the very health care system that we are making such sacrifices to protect are not following their own rules and guidelines.
Tony
Mcalbey
Reply to @Jason Inness: Higgy needs explain what is going on, looks like he’s losing control of situation.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Surely you jest Methinks everybody knows Higgy never had
control and that I said many times overseeing a minority mandate is like
herding cats but I do enjoy watching the circus N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: they let you out of the Fr ea K tent to watch the high wire act? That's kind of them
Mack Leigh
So to be clear, healthcare workers living in Quebec , travelling all over Quebec including Montreal, Quebec City et al with no restrictions being placed on them are then coming to work in NB with absolutely no isolation or quarantine requirements. Are we really wondering why the outbreak in Zone 5 with a mentality such as that being displayed ? Really... this being aside from the rogue doctor incident..
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks its as clear as mud N'esy Pas?
Matt Adams
I am done with this quarantine rule. Professionals that should be are not and allowed to get away with it. I have not seen family and friends outside this province in months and that will now change and I am not locking down when I come up. The precedent has been set and there is no consistency with how the rule is implemented.
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Adams: Methinks its High Time that folks noticed Higgy's double talking nonsense N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
I
am over simplifying but you basically can't have anglo doctors doing
locums in french health region's hospitals and serving francophone NB
citizens. Charter violation. So where to find french speaking MDs.
Peter Wylie
Reply to @Jake Quinlan:
Speaking of Charter violations l wonder if Higgy is going to pay back the property tax to the property owners for the time they weren't allowed to enjoy their property?
Speaking of Charter violations l wonder if Higgy is going to pay back the property tax to the property owners for the time they weren't allowed to enjoy their property?
David Amos
Reply to @Peter Wylie: Methinks you know the answer to that as well as I N'esy pas?
Lou Bell
So
many of the Locums are here to sit for 10 hours in the vacant ER Rooms
of some of the Hospitals that were up for the overnight closures that
were to be implemented previously by the Province ! Huh ! Another
blatant waste of taxpayer dollars , and a chance to get the virus as a
bonus !!!
Mary Smith
Reply to @Lou Bell: A
smarter thing to do would be to use those rural hospitals as a lower
triage, and keep the city hospitals for higher triage issues. When you
go to a clinic, and you then need something done at a hospital, instead
of going to a city hospital, see if that person can go to the rural
hospital instead (if they have a car, they'd rather drive x amount of
time to the rural hospital than have to sit for hours in a city hospital
that is consistently at or over capacity). We should make all
hospitals work smarter, not harder, and not shut them down.
We use those rural doctors to be able to tele-health into whatever hospital is the busiest at that time, to quickly help those patients who are lower triaged to be able to get them out of the outpatients as soon as possible. Centralized hospitals - especially in a pandemic - is not good. Look at the Campbellton hospital that had to shut down due to an outbreak and exposure. Look at Moncton hospital that had to close it's maternity ward due to rust contamination in the vents. Anything like this could happen at any hospital, and we'll be all better off if we can shift operations easily to another hospital in another region to help take the pressure off.
Shutting down hospitals is not going to solve anything. It will just shift problems around. We need to think smarter about how to provide better care to everyone in the province, not just rural or urban, but every NB citizen. Using tele-health is the future - and it's proved a valuable tool for this pandemic - but not all patients can be seen this way, and that's why each hospital still needs either a doctor or a nurse practitioner to help when emergencies happen. In an emergency minutes matter. Use those doctors smarter, by utilizing tele-health too.
We use those rural doctors to be able to tele-health into whatever hospital is the busiest at that time, to quickly help those patients who are lower triaged to be able to get them out of the outpatients as soon as possible. Centralized hospitals - especially in a pandemic - is not good. Look at the Campbellton hospital that had to shut down due to an outbreak and exposure. Look at Moncton hospital that had to close it's maternity ward due to rust contamination in the vents. Anything like this could happen at any hospital, and we'll be all better off if we can shift operations easily to another hospital in another region to help take the pressure off.
Shutting down hospitals is not going to solve anything. It will just shift problems around. We need to think smarter about how to provide better care to everyone in the province, not just rural or urban, but every NB citizen. Using tele-health is the future - and it's proved a valuable tool for this pandemic - but not all patients can be seen this way, and that's why each hospital still needs either a doctor or a nurse practitioner to help when emergencies happen. In an emergency minutes matter. Use those doctors smarter, by utilizing tele-health too.
Dan Lee
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Somebody from Fredericton talking about wasting taxpayers money.......now that is an oxymoron...
Somebody from Fredericton talking about wasting taxpayers money.......now that is an oxymoron...
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Lee:
Methinks little Lou is the classic example of a walking talking oxymoron
who is writing spin for Higgy et al all day and night for years without
hardly a nap N"esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
Will be interesting hearing higgys explanation on this
Leroy Mccarthy
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Yes the big province of NB, with less population than the city
of Missassagua, needs two health authorities. Two health authorities on
two different pages. Higgs is part of an all party group trying to
manage this pandemic. One health authority believes that they dont have
to respect the rules. Lay blame where it belongs.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Leroy Mccarthy:
Yes, right with Mr Higgs. The guy in charge is responsible to someone, that someone being Mr Higgs.
Yes, right with Mr Higgs. The guy in charge is responsible to someone, that someone being Mr Higgs.
Leroy Mccarthy
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Difficult when you have rogue employees doing as they please.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Leroy Mccarthy:
Then you get their attention by sending them down the road kicking stones.
Then you get their attention by sending them down the road kicking stones.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: If you only understood , that was the job OF THE ALL PARTY
APPROVED task force ! They and Vitalite' obviously dropped the ball on
this one ! Ask Vickers ! He approved this !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leroy Mccarthy
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Your absolutely correct. The nonsense of two health authorities also needs to be reviewed.
Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Leroy Mccarthy: Just checked total number of cases in Missassagua was
at around 2400 big difference in number from N.B. don't you think ? Maybe two health authorities is the way to go...
at around 2400 big difference in number from N.B. don't you think ? Maybe two health authorities is the way to go...
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy still reports to the Irving Clan and their bankster buddies N'esy Pas?
David News
Boy oh boy, covid-19 is certainly bringing out the dirty laundry. Why are the health authorities bringing in doctors from out of province. We need to address the funding models and make sure that we have sufficient doctors in the province to deal with things like sickness or vacations. This is outrageous.
david herman
Reply to @David News: And I think it outrageous that you are just now cluing in.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David News:
Will never happen. Our healthcare system is right jammed full of patronage appointments........... where would they be moved to?
If I told you "the numbers" here I would have to prove it, so do your own looking. Total up the number of "healers" in NB (doctors and nurses) subtract that number from the total number of employees of both health services. Figure out an acceptable percentage of additional employees (say 10%) and subtract that.
What are you left with?
Will never happen. Our healthcare system is right jammed full of patronage appointments........... where would they be moved to?
If I told you "the numbers" here I would have to prove it, so do your own looking. Total up the number of "healers" in NB (doctors and nurses) subtract that number from the total number of employees of both health services. Figure out an acceptable percentage of additional employees (say 10%) and subtract that.
What are you left with?
David News
Reply to @david herman: Why David is my outrageous?
David News
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Terry I am quickly learning that NB is not like other provinces.
Still relatively new to the province. But do find it appalling in
comparison across the country.
David News
Reply to @David News: comment
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David News:
On PEI there are 65 people employed by Health PEI for each "healer".
It's an Atlantic Canadian tradition.
On PEI there are 65 people employed by Health PEI for each "healer".
It's an Atlantic Canadian tradition.
David News
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Very Sad and so completely different than BC, ONT and Que.
David Amos
Reply to @David News: Welcome back to the circus
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP
Dave Shimla
OMG!! when will all this stupidity stop?
Tristin Time
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Pandora's box
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Dave Shimla:
This is NB. Try never.
This is NB. Try never.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks to be exact its on the slate to stop on the 12th of Never N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-outbreak-roundup-1.5604286
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: New travel-related case in Moncton area
This brings the number of total active cases up to 25
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 09, 2020 1:29 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said residents living in the Campbellton area shouldn't travel to other parts of the province unless it's essential. (Government of New Brunswick)
New Brunswick Public Health is reporting one new case of COVID-19 in the Moncton region, bringing the total number of active cases to 25.
The new case is travel-related and involves an individual between 20 and 29.
"After three months, it can be easy to forget to keep doing the simple things like distancing, washing your hands frequently, and covering coughs or sneezes, but these are the most important tools we have in preventing the spread of COVID-19," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health.
147 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick
There have been 147 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. Since the virus first broke out in March, 121 people have recovered, including one related to the outbreak in the Campbellton region, where there has been a cluster of COVID-19 cases.There has been one death related to the respiratory virus this past month.
Five patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.
As of today, 34,814 tests have been conducted, according to public health.
Campbellton residents should only travel for essentials
People in the Campbellton region should only travel to other parts of the province for essential services, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health says.The Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, has seen a cluster of COVID-19 cases over the past few weeks, after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.
"It is not ideal for people travelling for non-essential reasons," said Dr. Jennifer Russell during an interview with Information Morning Fredericton.
Russell said government isn't restricting people's movement within the province.
Instead, they're relying on an honour system. New Brunswick borders are being patrolled and many travellers receive a follow-up visit or phone call.
"We can't police everything," she said.
Information Morning - Fredericton
COVID-19 update
Over the weekend, Dooly's in Fredericton announced it was closing after a customer came into the pub who wasn't self-isolating after visiting Quebec.
"We're really relying on the good will and the good judgment of the people of New Brunswick.
Farmers call on Ottawa to help with rotting potatoes
New Brunswick farmers want Ottawa to speed up a program that would relieve farmers from some of the impact from the COVID-19 outbreak.Last month, Ottawa announced a $50-million Surplus Food Purchase Program. But farmers say there hasn't been any real follow up since and "millions of pounds of potatoes are sitting in storage and starting to rot."
"We need to finally settle with the province and federal government so that we can dispose of these potatoes now," said Matt Hemphill, executive director of Potatoes New Brunswick in a news release last week.
"That could mean turning them to cattle feed or creating more freezer capacity to get them processed into french fries or donating to food banks. But the reality is we need help and support to do that, and the government has yet to make any tangible move in the right direction."
The produce-driven organization also said the closure of restaurants and bars across the country has meant a drastic drop in the number of people ordering plates of french fries. For potato farmers, this resulted in the equivalent of 700 transport truckloads of potatoes in surplus in New Brunswick alone.
Richard Strang, CEO of Strang's Produce in Malden, almost 20 kilometres northeast of Port-Elgin, said government needs to remember farmers are working with perishable food items.
"The longer they delay, the greater the risk of spoilage and the increased chance we have to deal with potato blight in addition to the surplus.
Strang said this could have a severe impact on farm jobs, processing plants, grocery stores and the restaurant industry.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
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Methinks Higgy et al know why the Minister of Health''s spin doctor Bruce Macfarlane is gonna enjoy his voicemail when he gets back from lunch N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy et al are no doubt enjoying my emails today N'esy Pas?
Janice small
Jen and Blaine as you are aware this virus isn't going away anytime soon as you both have told us time and time again.. We all get it, we are all social distancing and all NB'ers have put their lives , families and careers and jobs on hold..We have lost many small and big companies and many people are dealing with metal health issues from the isolation that was enforced on us...Our credit ratings have taken a beaten as many have delayed car payments, rent and mortage payments.. Contrary to what the banks say they report to Credit Score companies and all have taken a hit on their credit score and postponed payments are record as late payments.. In a nut shell it will cost many NB'S a higher interest rate to borrow if they will even qualify. As this virus lives with us don't panic or backtrack !!! It's political sucide for you both to backtrack as as the support and great results you have achieved are still their.. Again we knew it's going to come and go with hot spots here and their in the Province.. Good work be patient as all NB'ERS have benn and lets work through this as we wait for a vaccine.
Sarah Brown
Reply to @Janice
small: Another way to learn to live needs to be found that doesn’t
involve ongoing restrictions of our civil liberties and expecting people
to live like this until there is a vaccine...its neither reasonable or
sustainable.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Sarah Brown:
We don't have to wait until a vaccine, we could have effective
treatment soon that will make Covid-19 not as deadly to catch. Using
plasma from recovered patients, or from some other treatment, or through
reworking drugs we already have that we know are safe and that we have
available.
We loosen restrictions for those inside borders, by keeping those who come in from areas where the virus is out of control, quarantined. Soon two areas can "bubble up" like NB and PEI if we keep it out of the community and isolated just to travel related cases that are contained because they isolated upon entry.
I'll ask this again, because I am really interested:
Let's do a thought experiment. The places where Ebola broke out, should those individuals been allowed to freely travel, no restrictions, any where in the world that they wanted? Should "rights and civil liberties" be temporarily suspended for those where Ebola was spreading for the greater good, so that Ebola could be contained and prevented from being able to spread freely to the rest of the world? Are you against border restrictions and quarantines under all circumstances, or just when it personally impacts you?
We loosen restrictions for those inside borders, by keeping those who come in from areas where the virus is out of control, quarantined. Soon two areas can "bubble up" like NB and PEI if we keep it out of the community and isolated just to travel related cases that are contained because they isolated upon entry.
I'll ask this again, because I am really interested:
Let's do a thought experiment. The places where Ebola broke out, should those individuals been allowed to freely travel, no restrictions, any where in the world that they wanted? Should "rights and civil liberties" be temporarily suspended for those where Ebola was spreading for the greater good, so that Ebola could be contained and prevented from being able to spread freely to the rest of the world? Are you against border restrictions and quarantines under all circumstances, or just when it personally impacts you?
Sarah
Brown
Reply to @Mary Smith:
It’s not about what impacts me personally...it’s about that most people
seem to have very little if any concern about the fact that our civil
liberties continue to be encroached upon by the few who make the
decision for the many with no let up in sight.
Mike
Bookman
Reply to @Sarah
Brown: Then there are those who feel that their personal civil
liberties are more important than the lives of their own elderly family
members.
John Oliver
Reply to @Mike
Bookman: Not at all. But it is neither one nor the other. At what point
(and there must be a point) will you say enough. By your logic, Mike,
the restrictions have not been severe enough. So, clearly, you are
willing to take some risks.
Mary - This is not Ebola. Every decision should be made in the light of what we face not what we might have faced. Again, the same question, though. When will you accept risks and what risks will you tolerate.
Mary - This is not Ebola. Every decision should be made in the light of what we face not what we might have faced. Again, the same question, though. When will you accept risks and what risks will you tolerate.
David Amos
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Reply to @John Oliver: Methinks you have said more than enough about taking risks N'esy Pas?
Reply to @John Oliver: Methinks you have said more than enough about taking risks N'esy Pas?
Marco Bernardo
We have been making too many exceptions at the border and infected people have been coming into our province. Some people have broken the self-isolation rules, like that guy in the Grande-Digue region. The guy in Fredericton obviously didn't bother to isolate before going to Dooly's. What about this person in Moncton? Yea, now we have to worry about cottage people skirting the rules. There have been relentless complaints about movement and travel, and I guess that they ultimately got their way. Now the residents of New Brunswick can no longer have peace of mind as we "open up" because a person with the SARS CoV 2 virus could be right next to them. Talk about blight encroaching into our "Oasis." This really sucks, and I feel for the seniors in Campbellton. I truly hope that other seniors, our Mothers, Fathers and Grand Parents, and people with medical conditions, can remain safe.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Marco
Bernardo: "The new case is travel-related and involves an individual in
their 20s. The individual had been self-isolating for 14 days,
according to Bruce Macfarlane, a spokesperson for the Department of
Health. "Public Health officials are in the process of conducting the
contact tracing as per its usual process," he said in an emailed
statement to CBC News."
This was updated, it appears as if they had been isolating for 14 days, so here's hoping they did a proper quarantine, but they're working on contact tracing now. It seems promising, but that shouldn't change our behaviour in any way. We should still assume it could be anywhere in NB, because we have had that Campbellton outbreak and those contacts of that outbreak DID travel outside of their region, so it could be spreading through the community right now, but we just don't know it yet.
That Grande-Digue case was awful though. And that Dooly's case (I believe it was a woman, but I could be wrong). Selfish.
I am very concerned about cottagers. I hope they follow the public health rules and absolutely quarantine as they should. We're like crows here - we have a long memory. If someone comes in and doesn't quarantine, we'll remember - especially if they cause an outbreak like the doctor - whether they're sick or not isn't the point, the point is to act as if they are - because they could be.
Proactive quarantine prevents the chains of transmission and keeps the community safe. If they're not sick, the community will welcome them with open arms, knowing they're healthy and well, and thankful that they showed them respect and showed them that they cared about their health and well being. Respecting NB'ers. Proactive isolation is better than reactively trying to contain an outbreak.
This was updated, it appears as if they had been isolating for 14 days, so here's hoping they did a proper quarantine, but they're working on contact tracing now. It seems promising, but that shouldn't change our behaviour in any way. We should still assume it could be anywhere in NB, because we have had that Campbellton outbreak and those contacts of that outbreak DID travel outside of their region, so it could be spreading through the community right now, but we just don't know it yet.
That Grande-Digue case was awful though. And that Dooly's case (I believe it was a woman, but I could be wrong). Selfish.
I am very concerned about cottagers. I hope they follow the public health rules and absolutely quarantine as they should. We're like crows here - we have a long memory. If someone comes in and doesn't quarantine, we'll remember - especially if they cause an outbreak like the doctor - whether they're sick or not isn't the point, the point is to act as if they are - because they could be.
Proactive quarantine prevents the chains of transmission and keeps the community safe. If they're not sick, the community will welcome them with open arms, knowing they're healthy and well, and thankful that they showed them respect and showed them that they cared about their health and well being. Respecting NB'ers. Proactive isolation is better than reactively trying to contain an outbreak.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Mary Smith:
Isolating just one person or household, or making your entire community
go back into lock down and be ill. That community will never forget,
and your cottage get away will not be welcoming to you. BUT if you
quarantine like you should, your community will remember that forever.
We're like crows, stories passed on for generations, not really knowing
the exact details, but knowing that we like certain people for a reason
you can't recall, and knowing that something happened with this person
but the details are lost.
It's beneficial for everyone involved -- if you're sick, wouldn't you want to be the only sick person so you get the best treatment and care? If you spread it to your entire community, you're going to get subpar treatment because everyone is ill all at the same time. Hospitals collapse, staff ill, not the best scenario. But if you're sick, and you quarantined, and if you need help to get you through Covid-19, your odds are much better if you're the only one needing treatment - you could have the whole Covid-19 ward to yourself. Quarantining doesn't have to be just altruistic, it's good for the community and the quarantinee.
It's beneficial for everyone involved -- if you're sick, wouldn't you want to be the only sick person so you get the best treatment and care? If you spread it to your entire community, you're going to get subpar treatment because everyone is ill all at the same time. Hospitals collapse, staff ill, not the best scenario. But if you're sick, and you quarantined, and if you need help to get you through Covid-19, your odds are much better if you're the only one needing treatment - you could have the whole Covid-19 ward to yourself. Quarantining doesn't have to be just altruistic, it's good for the community and the quarantinee.
David Amos
Reply to @Marco
Bernardo: So have you two figured out that there is only one David Amos?
Methinks its not rocket science figuring out who is truly who Perhaps
you should study political science N'esy Pas?
Carlson MacKenzie
The Flat Earth Society is looking for new members I hear. Some here would fit right in. Hell, maybe they're already members!
David Amos
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Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Methinks some folks believe in heaven and hell and others believe we reside on Turtle island. Others claim we are riding on the back of a turtle and there are many turtles all the way down below it. I am not religious guy but i do agree that this is a problem of infinite regress that has put many in much distress. I know for a fact that democracy and justice are myths yet I still have faith in mankind.. Its hard telling not knowing for sure whose philosophy is correct but we all cannot deny that we are locked down in Higgy's Police State today Perhaps we should relax and enjoy Higgy's circus because New Brunswick with all its faults is still a very fine place to live within this wonderful old world N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Methinks some folks believe in heaven and hell and others believe we reside on Turtle island. Others claim we are riding on the back of a turtle and there are many turtles all the way down below it. I am not religious guy but i do agree that this is a problem of infinite regress that has put many in much distress. I know for a fact that democracy and justice are myths yet I still have faith in mankind.. Its hard telling not knowing for sure whose philosophy is correct but we all cannot deny that we are locked down in Higgy's Police State today Perhaps we should relax and enjoy Higgy's circus because New Brunswick with all its faults is still a very fine place to live within this wonderful old world N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Like sand running in an hourglass we are, each and every, one of us might at one time, or another, be asked when time ran out and NB becane not so fine a place.
We may just be witnessing the beginning of the end.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: True and i expressed my apologies for the failings of our
generation in 2004 and tried get the young ones to pay attention to
their future and nobody cared. Now that I am getting old i am trying to
turn the page and find fun. however the cops keep harassing me as Higgy
et al irritate me with butter tarts and teasing me about no medicare
card or Harley etc so in return I enjoy poking holes in their stuffed
shirts before I begin pushing up daisies.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
I am not originally from here. It is the Atlantic Canada lament. The young ones of any account get educated and leave (or leave and get educated), the ones who return prey on the leavings like sharks. The governments are sucking too high a percentage out of the economy, and the sharks are stashing their take offshore. It is a situation destined to fail.
I saw (and was impressed by) some gipsy vardos I saw in Europe and find very little keeping me here, so I may just build one, and take my antique self on the road. My very own antiques roadshow.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
I was born and raised here.I have wandered around quite a bit as well. I
came home to raise some hell and got stuck here since 2005 but it is
here that i would prefer to be when i die. My kids are grown and spread
out from to Nova Scotia to California I have looking at the Baja before i
ran in the last election but my bum ticker and the health care system
took all my savings because Higgy kept the 'stay' on my medicare card.
Trust that I will be suing the Crown again in short order to get it and
my Panhead back before I head south next winter.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Head south? You mean move into whoever your mooching froms basement for the winter? Best of luck with that Medicare and Harley mission. I know your arguing lawyer skills have gotten you this far!
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks Higgy et al, the RCMP and my Yankee and Canadian brother in
laws know why I look forward to meeting your lawyer buddies AGAIN
someday soon N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Someday soon. Keep the comedy show going. Build the rock solid case Perry Mason
David Amos
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Methinks you know where to find my missing words to you yesterday N'esy Pas?
Greg Miller
Why are we backsliding? We were doing almost as well as P.E.I. but now we're no where close to their success. Are we simply less compliant and perhaps less considerate?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Greg Miller:
Bottom line:
Our "secured borders" are full of holes.
Bottom line:
Our "secured borders" are full of holes.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Greg Miller: Access to PEI is controlled by a bridge.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
They do have an airport (actually 2), there is a ferry to NS, there is also a ferry to the Magdalen islands (Que).
They do have an airport (actually 2), there is a ferry to NS, there is also a ferry to the Magdalen islands (Que).
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP
Jeff LeBlanc
To anyone who says social distancing is dead, come try to invade my space in the supermarket and see what happens. You won't like it.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: bark and no bite!
James Smythe
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Cmon Jeff, you and I both know you're too afraid to get within
the 6 foot distance to do anything about it aside from shout, and I
won't be able to hear you from behind your mask anyway.
David Amos
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: True
Bruce Sanders
No sweat, let's open up everything now. 5 people in the hospital, nowhere straining the system. Of the tests completed to date 99.6% DO NOT have the virus. Now that we know asymptomatic people cannot spread the virus, the pandemic is over.
Ian Scott
Reply to @Bruce
Sanders: And your source to that is the WHO? Open up everything where,?
Atlantic region yes maybe, PQ and Ont,. don 't think so.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: well said
Bruce
Sanders
Reply to @Ian Scott: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-who-bn/index.html
This explains the very low infection rate.
This explains the very low infection rate.
Bruce
Sanders
Reply to @Ian Scott: CNN posted the results of their work. And this new learning explains the very low infection rate.
Vernon McPhee
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Except the WHO is backtracking on the rare asymptomatic spread report.
John Oliver
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: I need post no more than this gem from CBC's own story on the topic.
A non-peer-reviewed study from Germany in May based on 919 people in the district of Heinsberg — which had among the highest death tolls from COVID-19 in Germany — found that about one in five of those infected were symptomless.
I could find 919 people who believe in aliens and/or a flat earth.
A non-peer-reviewed study from Germany in May based on 919 people in the district of Heinsberg — which had among the highest death tolls from COVID-19 in Germany — found that about one in five of those infected were symptomless.
I could find 919 people who believe in aliens and/or a flat earth.
David Amos
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Reply to @John Oliver: Methinks no matter what you claim in whatever name you opt to use you are far from done N'esy Pas?
Reply to @John Oliver: Methinks no matter what you claim in whatever name you opt to use you are far from done N'esy Pas?
Tristin Time
Simple, selfish person from Fredericton who didn't self-isolate after a visit to Quebec causing a business to temporarily close. They should be fined, period. If people don't abide these simple rules, martial law will take effect. I'd rather voluntarily abide by these simple guidelines rather they be imposed. Relying on, quote: "the good will and the good judgment of the people" is overshadowed by a few bad apples believing the state of emergency does not apply to them. Readers need to understand we're only a few positive test cases to go back in the red!
Tristin Time
Reply to @Tristin
Time: Let's not get nit picky about what freedom is or isn't either.
Bottom line, the rules are in place weather one likes them or not.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Tristin Time: In Fredericton today, I can assure you that no one there cares.
David Amos
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: I noticed that too
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: So you spent your day asking people's opinions on the topic?
mabel short
or think of Albertans who are born new brunswickers...and who drive for miles if a grocery or other stores bring in maritime grown potatoes....dont let the potatoes rot!!!
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @mabel short:
Or think about the poor farmer, the guy who chooses to buy seed potatoes, rather than cut his unsold potatoes for seed, hoping for a big government win.
Or think about the poor farmer, the guy who chooses to buy seed potatoes, rather than cut his unsold potatoes for seed, hoping for a big government win.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Did you truly lose your partner in March?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Yes.
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Yes.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You have my condolences Sir
Terry
Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Life and death are the two sides of the same coin.
For a fella who figured he would never see 35, this is not my first rodeo, and may not be my last.
Each and every religion tells us that when you put your wings on, and leave this place, next stop is a better place.
Thank you.
David Amos
Life and death are the two sides of the same coin.
For a fella who figured he would never see 35, this is not my first rodeo, and may not be my last.
Each and every religion tells us that when you put your wings on, and leave this place, next stop is a better place.
Thank you.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: I lost two friends this week one was single guy and an old bike
mechanic camped next door to me whom I had first worked with in 1972.
Cancer got him and I've seen that far to many times and after grown
accustomed. The other fella was from up your way He was quite gearhead
as well. He was only 51 and cancer got him too. That loss haunts me
because he left behind a young family I love.
Reply to @David Amos:
I graduated high school in 1969 in a place called Dundas Ontario, in a school that had 2500 students. There are no longer any year reunions I am the only one left. My first wife battled cancer for 22 years, liver disease got this one, mighty quick, less than 3 months from the first sign.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: WOW whats in the water up there? I graduated from Fat Fred City
High in 1970 There are lots of us still kicking whom i would have
enjoyed seeing again but they cancelled our 50th reunion because of this
virus nonsense. Both of my wives the Canadian ex and the current Yankee
are still very much alive as is my Mother She turns 97 next week.
June Arnott
Win the wAr and wear a mask, no gun required
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Yea Right
Johnny AlmarReply to @June Arnott: Wow. You really said that.
June Arnott
Reply to @Johnny Almar: yes. This is a war. No gun required to win. What’s your issue with that?
Lou Bell
Well done Premier Higgs and Dr. Russell ! Masks , isolating , social distancing have really been the key factor in containing the disease . Unfortunately though we can't fix stupid and those are the ones we need to watch out for !
June Arnott
Reply to @Lou Bell: stupid and selfish
David Amos
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Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks you should tell the rest of us who are the folks you ladies are referring to N'esy Pas?
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks you should tell the rest of us who are the folks you ladies are referring to N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: The naysayers ! There , NEXT !!
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Lou Bell: too many in this province
Tony Mcalbey
"After three months, it can be easy to forget to keep doing the simple things like distancing, washing your hands frequently, and covering coughs or sneezes, but these are the most important tools we have in preventing the spread of COVID-19," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health.
Looks like closed borders and masks aren’t the tools to contain the virus.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Yeah they are ! Stupid people are harder to fix !!
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks many would agree that you and Lou deserve each other N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Ah " Butter Tarts " ! How's Martha ???
Here comes the same old , same old ! " N'esy Pas " / " Surprise , Surprise " / " Methinks Higgy " / " Cardy and his Butter Tarts " / " I'm sure Higgy remembers me " and " Methinks " !!! And nothing more !
https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks Higgy is gonna try herding cats again at the circus in Fat Fred City tomorrow while Holland Urquhart and Cardy to name but a few of his crew of clowns partake of too many butter tarts as usual N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/methinks-higgys-circus-must-go-on-and.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-outbreak-roundup-1.5602783
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Record 9 new cases of virus in Campbellton region
There are 24 active cases in the province, all in Zone 5
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 08, 2020 12:20 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said eight of the new active cases are connected to a long-term care facility in Atholville. Another case is being investigated by New Brunswick Public Health. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
New Brunswick Public Health has announced nine new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region.
This brings the total number of active cases in the province to 24.
"This is the largest number of cases recorded in a single day in New Brunswick," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health at Monday's news briefing.
Eight of the new cases are linked to Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville.
The long-term care home has experienced an outbreak of the virus after one of its workers had contact with the Campbellton doctor who travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate.
There are nine new active cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5. (CBC News)
Russell said residents of the long-term care facility are monitored everyday for symptoms of COVID-19. Staff are continuing to be tested regardless of symptoms.
The one case that was reported elsewhere in Zone 5 is being investigated and Russell said contact tracing is underway.
The new cases are:
- two individuals between 60 and 69
- four individuals between 70 and 79
- an individual between 80 and 89; and
- two individuals above the age of 90.
Patients strongly support virtual care — even after virus subsides
A new poll conducted by the New Brunswick Medical Society suggests 77 per cent of respondents are in favour of virtual care even after COVID-19 is over.Many health-care services in the province were temporarily shut down after the COVID-19 outbreak started in March. This forced the provincial government and the New Brunswick Medical Society to expand virtual health-care access for patients.
"It was meant as a temporary measure to support the health of New Brunswickers during the pandemic, but it's clear that patients see value in maintaining virtual care in the province," said a news release Monday from the New Brunswick Medical Society.
The highest number of new COVID-19 cases in the past two months was announced by chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell on Monday 2:36
As of today, the province said 34,400 tests have been conducted. And more than 300 people are self-isolating and monitoring their symptoms as a result of contact tracing, Public Health is also checking in with these individuals each day.
"Given COVID-19's 14-day incubation period, we realize that new cases can and will appear," Russell said.
Eight new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region have been linked to the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
"It may be a week or more before we can say with certainty that the virus is not present in other regions of New Brunswick from this outbreak. It is so important that all New Brunswickers remain vigilant against the spread of COVID-19."
Ottawa eases border restrictions
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will "allow immediate family members of citizens or permanent residents to come to Canada" provided they can isolate for 14 days.The Canada Border Services Agency said the exemption will kick in at midnight.
Premier Blaine Higgs has been skeptical about the federal government's plans to reopen the border with the U.S.
He said Monday, he's looking for refined details and what the application process might look like for families trying to come into New Brunswick, so he can notify provincial border authorities.
He said it also has to be well-defined that travellers have a place they can self-isolate for 14 days.
"It's not unexpected, it is trying to unite families the same as we've done throughout the rest of Canada and provide once again, a social environment under the new COVID rules."
Immigration Minister Marco Mendicino says exemption for immediate family members to cross Canada-U.S. border includes 14-day quarantine. 1:34
Officials with New Brunswick's Department of Public Safety are continuing to monitor provincial borders.
On Sunday, Higgs said 69 vehicles were denied entry into New Brunswick. There have also been 35 non-compliance calls into the province's information line
The calls related to concerns of residents failing to self-isolate, people not respecting physical distancing and businesses not following guidelines.
Higgs said officials have been checking on residents with either a visit or a phone call.
"People need to understand we can and will check up," he said.
Emergency department set to reopen at Campbellton Regional Hospital
The Campbellton Regional Hospital will open its emergency department at 8 a.m. Tuesday, Vitalité Health Network announced.The hospital's emergency department has been closed since the end of May, and all non-urgent or elective health-care services were cancelled due to the high risk of transmission of COVID-19.
The Campbellton Regional Hospital will reopen its emergency department Tuesday. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
"The facility's Emergency Department will be open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week starting tomorrow," announced Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of the Network.
"We have enough nurses and doctors to move to a full reopening of this service."
Ambulatory care services and non-urgent elective surgeries will be able to resume gradually over the next few days.
Patients strongly support virtual care — even after virus subsides
A new poll conducted by the New Brunswick Medical Society suggests 77 per cent of respondents are in favour of virtual care even after COVID-19 is over.Many health-care services in the province were temporarily shut down after the COVID-19 outbreak started in March. This forced the provincial government and the New Brunswick Medical Society to expand virtual health-care access for patients.
"It was meant as a temporary measure to support the health of New Brunswickers during the pandemic, but it's clear that patients see value in maintaining virtual care in the province," said a news release Monday from the New Brunswick Medical Society.
Over the past three months, many patients have been receiving routine services like prescription renewals and follow-up health advice over the phone or by video. (Shutterstock)
In the poll, which was conducted by Narrative Research of Halifax, four in 10 respondents in New Brunswickers had a virtual care appointment during the pandemic, and the majority of these were satisfied with the experience.
However, a large majority of respondents also said they would not pay for virtual care if it was not covered by Medicare.
"Virtual care is a tremendous tool for improving access to primary health care," said Dr. Chris Goodyear, president of the New Brunswick Medical Society and a general surgeon in Fredericton.
"While not a substitute for an in-person visit, virtual care adds flexibility for physicians and patients when an in-person visit is not required. It also cuts down on the economic and environmental costs of travel and is helpful for patients who are unable to travel."
Dr. Chris Goodyear, president of the New Brunswick Medical Society, says virtual care has been helping improve New Brunswick's health-care system, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. (New Brunswick Medical Society/Twitter)
Since March, many patients with family doctors have been receiving care and advice over the phone or through a secure video-chat software.
These measures also apply to specialists, and for mental health services, it has been authorized for psychiatrists.
Narrative Research conducted a random telephone survey with 400 New Brunswick adults between May 7 and May 20. Results are considered accurate to within plus or minus 4.9 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
Dooly's closes after travelling customer didn't self-isolate
Over the weekend, Dooly's in Fredericton announced it was closing after a customer came into the pub and wasn't self-isolating after visiting Quebec.In order to keep residents safe, Premier Blaine Higgs said it's crucial travellers self-isolate for 14 days once they return home to New Brunswick. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)
"She is currently being tested and awaiting results," the business said in a Facebook post Saturday.
"Out of an over-abundance of caution, we have decided to close this location until we have confirmed test results."
The Queen Street pub said it's disinfecting and sanitizing every surface in the building for the safety of customers.
At Monday's news briefing, Premier Blaine Higgs said the 14 day self-isolation rule has been put in place to protect New Brunswickers from contracting the virus.
A Dooly's pub in Fredericton was forced to close over the weekend after a customer came in who was supposed to be self-isolating after a trip from Quebec. (Facebook)
"This kind of behaviour is not acceptable and puts us all at risk," he said.
The Department of Public Safety is currently investigating the incident.
Masks aren't mandatory in public buildings
The New Brunswick government has backtracked on a decision announced last week to make wearing masks mandatory for people enter any buildings open to the public.The new rule was set to come into effect on Tuesday, but the province scrapped the precaution just one day after it was announced.
"It was not intended to put a mask on everybody who walked in the door. It was intended that everyone would have a mask with them so they were able to put it on when needed," said Premier Blaine Higgs.
"The concerns were once you get inside, if you don't have a mask with you, you can't do much about it."
The province continues to say people must wear masks if they are in a public space where physical distancing cannot be maintained.
"When you leave home, carry a mask with you so you can always put it on if needed," Higgs said.
Campobello Island Ferry to start up on June 15
The Campobello Island Ferry will start up again on June 15. The seasonal ferry is a direct connection the island has to New Brunswick's mainland.For most of the year the ferry isn't operational, so residents have to travel through Maine, more than an hour's drive from the border at St. Stephen.
But since the Canada-U.S. border closed in March, travel has been challenging for island residents.
"It's a lot of things people take for granted not living on Campobello," said Justin Tinker, chair of Accessible Campobello, who also grew up on the island.
Island residents can travel to the mainland for essential services and avoid the 14-day quarantine.
But the Canada Border Services Agency says a 14-day quarantine is required for anyone entering the country.
"This applies even if no stops were made along the way, as transiting through the United States still constitutes international travel," the agency said in an emailed statement to Radio-Canada.
"Exemptions to quarantine requirements for residents of Campobello Island are for specific reasons, such as transiting through the U.S. to obtain essential goods and services. Leisure travel through the United States is not one of the exemptions to the requirement to quarantine."
Tinker said trips off the island to get gas or other essentials in Maine can't be combined with trips to the mainland for medical appointments.
"While the rest of the province opens up, we cannot take part," said Taylor Paul-Davidson in a letter to Premier Blaine Higgs.
"We cannot visit our families, go fishing, camping, go to our second properties, enjoy provincial parks or trails all because to get off of Campobello Island we have to travel through the United States."
Tinker said the establishment of a permanent ferry to the mainland is key during the COVID-19 pandemic, and once the virus has subsided.
"It's an incredible disadvantage and competitive disadvantage that the island faces."
Codiac Transpo alters schedule to protect passengers
Starting Monday, Codiac Transpo has made operational changes to promote safety during the COVID-19 pandemic.
The
afternoon service will start 30 minutes later at 3 p.m. to extend
service hours until 7:30 p.m. In a news release, Codiac Transpo said
this will accommodate "numerous employers" that have resumed operations
until 7 p.m.
All
passengers are strongly encouraged to wear masks as per the
recommendations of the Office of the Chief Medical Officer of Health.
An
additional bus will be added to 51 Green Line. This will help manage
physical distancing requirements, reduced seating capacity, and the
increase in demand.
Route
52 Blue will be merged to 51 Green going forward, with continued
service to the Mountain Rd. and Main St. areas. This will eliminate the
need for passengers to transfer buses on these popular routes. An
additional bus will be added to enhance service.
The
shuttle service to Magnetic Hill has been cancelled for the summer.
Customers can still travel to the Zoo by public transit on #62
Hildegarde to the bus stop on Mountain Road at the Magnetic Hill
entrance driveway.
Bus
operators and transit employees will be provided non-medical masks by
their employer. The employer recommends bus operators wear masks when
physical distancing is not possible
Meanwhile, Moncton,
Saint John and Fredericton are collaborating on an operational plan to
increase the number of passengers permitted on each bus. Codiac
Transpo said additional details will be released in the coming weeks.
What to do if you have symptoms
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.
People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
- Stay at home.
- Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions.
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David Amos
Go Figure
Ray Oliver: Reply to @Harvey York: "His went "poof" as he likes to say. Darn. "
David Amos
"Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health, says she can't reveal if Chantel Moore's family received a compassionate exemption to the interprovincial travel ban and the mandatory 14-day isolation requirement"
Yea Right
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
CYA surprises you?
Tony Mcalbey
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: something smells fishy N’esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy et al and the RCMP know nothing surprises me anymore N'esy Pas?
doug kirby
Reply to @David Amos: well at least NB didn’t freak out at this family I was nervous that would happen
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Surprise ! Surprise !!! Let the bells ring out and the banners fly !!
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @doug kirby:
Why nervous? The whole lot of them should be in the cooler and paying BIG fines.
Democracy is based on one law for all, no exceptions, except in NB.
doug kirby
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I understand that absolutely
Terry Tibbs
Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health, said public heath will make compassionate exemptions to the interprovincial travel ban and the 14-day mandatory self isolation requirement, but would not say if Moore's family has received this exemption.
I can't decide if it is a matter of more secrets (like the Penthouse magazines an adolescent male hides under their bed), or if the whole isolation/closed border thing is purely political. Come on Dr Russell, you can tell us, the adults in the room who pay your wages should be told.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
How about this Dr Russell: My partner died back in March. If I suggest (not prove) that her death was caused by years of your employer short funding health care (how do you prove a simple truth: like the grass is green and the sky is blue). We were both born in Canada. Will you give me an "exemption" for her relatives to fly in, not self isolate, ignore social distancing, and allow a large gathering, so that we can plant her? OH! Do you *think* I would be surprised by a "no"?
How about this Dr Russell: My partner died back in March. If I suggest (not prove) that her death was caused by years of your employer short funding health care (how do you prove a simple truth: like the grass is green and the sky is blue). We were both born in Canada. Will you give me an "exemption" for her relatives to fly in, not self isolate, ignore social distancing, and allow a large gathering, so that we can plant her? OH! Do you *think* I would be surprised by a "no"?
doug kirby
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: politics at its finest
Alison Jackson
Social media: The scourge of mankind, where everyone is a doctor, lawyer, a scientist and civil engineer with zero training. Where everything is a conspiracy and everyone can be forcibly shoved into a non-stop parade of shaming over anything.
Ronald Parker
Reply to @Alison Jackson: Agreed, it is toxic.
Where were all of the "authorities" when Chantel Moore's family arrived at YFC and did not isolate, and did not social distance, and were not wearing PPE. And how is this "essential" travel given all the others that have been turned away.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: great questions for Higgy to answer
Fred Sanford
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Unacceptable double-standard!
MacKenzie King
I think the government has done a great job in handling the virus, but I was appalled when I watched the story on CBC last night about Ms. Moore's family coming here from BC. I don't know why they were allowed into the province. We have a case ready to proceed to the courts by a white women in BC who was denied entry to NB when her mother died. I feel this was the right decision, but to now let others in for the same circumstances is inexcusable. And, in the video provided in the story, they were not self-isolating, social-distancing or wearing masks. This is simply ridiculous.
David Amos
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Methinks Higgy is gonna try herding cats again at the circus in Fat Fred City tomorrow while Holland, Urquhart and Cardy to name but a few of his crew of clowns partake of far too many butter tarts as usual N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Martha Stewart ! Martha bakes your butter tarts ! This isn't a cooking story ! What's next ? Pizzagate ???
David Amos
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Methinks we all should enjoy Higgy's circus when it begins again tomorrow N'esy Pas?
Leslie Russell
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David Amos
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Reply to @Leslie Russell: Me Too
SarahRose Werner
"However, a large majority of respondents said they would not pay for virtual care if it was not covered by Medicare." - I didn't do the survey myself, but this is exactly how I would have answered. I greatly enjoyed my phone chat with my GP this past May, but if it costs me money to talk to her on the phone and I can walk 15 minutes to see her in person for free, I'd rather put my shoes on and start walking. I don't see why phone and video visits can't be covered by Medicare. The rule about the patient having to be physically in the office is outdated.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: What does any of that matter to me in light of the fact that
Higgy et al have a "Stay" on my Medicare Card???
SarahRose Werner
Speaking
of COVID-19, I got a chuckle out of the billboard that Edmundston is
using to try and lure Saint Johners to come visit. The slogan? “Safe
and uncrowded – Voyagez en sécurité.”
David Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Do Tell Does the Queen get the joke too???
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Do Tell Does the Queen get the joke too???
SarahRose Werner
Permanent
residents "landing" in Canada are required to prove that they have
enough money with them to live on while they find work and places to
live. Perhaps people crossing into New Brunswick from the States and
Quebec should be required to prove that they have 14 days' worth of food
to live on while they self-isolate and aren't planning to hit the
supermarket during that period.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Ask Doug ! He thinks he has all the answers !
"The new rule was set to come into effect on Tuesday, but the province scrapped the precaution just one day after it was announced.
"It was not intended to put a mask on everybody who walked in the door. It was intended that everyone would have a mask with them so they were able to put it on when needed," said Premier Blaine Higgs.
"The concerns were once you get inside, if you don't have a mask with you, you can't do much about it."
The province continues to say people must wear masks if they are in a public space where physical distancing cannot be maintained.
"When you leave home, carry a mask with you so you can always put it on if needed," Higgs said."
It turns out that what I had thought was their intent, was their intent. They should have explained it like this to begin with, but apparently people couldn't comprehend the full statement and thought you'd have to eat food through your mask - which is absurd - they aren't trying to make it impossible on people.
Once inside, you can sit at a table that's away from others and enjoy a meal, while maintaining distance from others because the tables are spread out. You don't need to wear a mask with friends or family, and that's who you'd be sitting with. This will make contact tracing so much easier, because the only people you'll be directly interacting with, you'll know who they are if contact tracing needs to take place.
They just want people to have a mask with them when they leave their home and go through public spaces, so if they need to wear a mask once inside a building because they cannot maintain physical distance once inside - they can - because they have one with them and carry on. No excuses because you have it with you when you're out and about in public, like you do your keys or wallet.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Mary Smith: I haven’t received masks from Higgy yet.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Mary Smith:
If that's what the provincial government intended, that's what the
provincial government should have said. The public shouldn't have to
guess the government's intentions. When you see a stop sign, are you
supposed to guess where you're supposed to stop?
David Amos
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Reply to @Mary Smith: Do tell Do you still think I am Tony Baby?
Reply to @Mary Smith: Do tell Do you still think I am Tony Baby?
Leslie Russell
Reply to @Mary Smith: Keep rationalizing. No surprise for me.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: He , like most others , has no idea who you are or even care .
Marco Bernardo
So we now know of the foolish doctor, the Dooly's customer and a guy in Shediac region that all have disregarding the self-isolation rules. This is why we have had to be tough about our borders, because foolish people will continue to bring SARS CoV 2 into our province and affect the safety and restrictions on our daily life here. People are in hospital that didn't need to be and one died already. We have to keep better control of all of these border exceptions and really need to clamp down on people doing the self-isolation if they are an exception that is moving, or coming back, into our province.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Marco Bernardo: I disagree. People are in hospital because they have more issues than covid19.
Winston Gray
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: these are issues that they were living with just fine before Covid.
Marco Bernardo
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Where is the logic Tony??? They would not be in hospital right
now if they had not caught the SARS CoV 2 virus. This is a serious
virus that has put countless people into hospital or the morgue world
wide. In Canada, 54,474 recovered and 7,832 dead (health system
recorded).
Bob Smith
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: People are in hospital solely because of Covid. Please show
proof that indicates that isn't the case for every single Covid
hospitalization.
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Bob Smith: Why does anyone bother replying to the likes of Macalbey? Can you all not see he is fishing?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Amos 2.0
Marco Bernardo
Reply to @Ray Oliver: He reminded me of Amos from another post.
Tom Campbell
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Wrong!!!!!
Matt Steele
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: .....Very true ; the mute button is the best option . That's what I did .
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Marco Bernardo: 0.02% of Canadians have died from covid19, most had other health issues. Covid19 is a hoax.
Pat
Holland
Reply to @Marco Bernardo: how many deaths from car accidents, stroke, heart disease, etc
Lou Bell
Reply to @Pat
Holland: If even one death can be prevented it's not too many ! Why
don't you and Tony put a number on how many you would be fine with "
just writing them off " ?????????????????????
James Smythe
Hasn’t anyone told all of you, that there’s a new crisis-du-jour in town now? This pandemic thing is soooooo last month.
Tim Doiron
Reply to @James
Smythe: I know right? I'm hoping aliens for the next one. Wouldn't that
be cool?? They would come to protest all the space junk we're spewing
into the universe... With face masks and after quarantining for 14 days
of course.
Timothy
Kelley
Reply to @Tim Doiron:
My money is on toxic fiddlehead disorder. Any ideas on what the
symptoms will be and how NB citizens will react to being locked into the
province forever?
David Amos
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Reply to @Timothy Kelley: Methinks Higgy et al should be Happy Happy Happy that you dudes are enjoying the circus Tomorrow I hear that he is gonna try his hand at herding cats in the legislature while Holland, Carr, Urquhart, Norhrup, Wetmore, Oliver, Fitch and Cardy (to name but a few) partake of far too many butter tarts as usual N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Timothy Kelley: Methinks Higgy et al should be Happy Happy Happy that you dudes are enjoying the circus Tomorrow I hear that he is gonna try his hand at herding cats in the legislature while Holland, Carr, Urquhart, Norhrup, Wetmore, Oliver, Fitch and Cardy (to name but a few) partake of far too many butter tarts as usual N'esy Pas?
Robert Langue
Still don't know where in Quebec the good doctor went to, and how many stops he made along the way. Jacques Poitras should get on the case!
Donald Gallant
Reply to @Robert Langue:
Exactly.
Exactly.
Fred Waite
Reply to @Robert Langue: Where did the x wife go, and is she infecting people also!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Robert Langue: If there's not a negative in the story for Higgs , Jacques would want no part of it i suspect .
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @Lou Bell:
If it's such an important thing to know why not just ask our Premier the
questions.. then you won't have to involve Jacgues st all. Surely our
leader will give the answers negative or otherwise yes?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Dan
Stewart: That would fall under the realm of the Dept. of Health and the
RCMP and contact tracing etc.. I doubt Higgs would have the answers to
all those questions ! You and Bobby call the cops if you need the
answers that badly . see what they tell you and get back to us !!
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Ahh, so Higgs is just a figurehead... I get it now... That does explain
all the flip flops lately. Maybe we really do need Jacques after all?
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you have partaken of far too many of your own butter tarts and its way past time for your nap However Higgy has you posting spin overtime before the circus in Fat Fred City begins again tomorrow N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you have partaken of far too many of your own butter tarts and its way past time for your nap However Higgy has you posting spin overtime before the circus in Fat Fred City begins again tomorrow N'esy Pas?
Donald Gallant
There needs to be a Co- Pay for this service.
David Peters
Reply to @Donald Gallant:
That may help take care of the problem of frivolous medical issues overloading the system.
That may help take care of the problem of frivolous medical issues overloading the system.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Donald Gallant: Why? There isn't a co-pay to see your doctor in person.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: All doctor visits should involve a payment. Universal Healthcare
is not sustainable. Healthcare on the govt dime should be for
catastrophic events like severe injury or severe illness. Everything
else should be Privately funded fee-based services
.
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David Amos
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Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks you must support the fact that Higgy et al make me pay for my health care N'esy Pas?
Donald Gallant
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
My father used to tell me “ Money does not grow on Trees “
My father used to tell me “ Money does not grow on Trees “
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I know I enjoy it
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks small things amuse small minds For instance a few days ago you
also accused me of being Johnny Boy for some amusing reason of yours I
will never understand but no doubt your buddies Higgy et al and the RCMP
do N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
God bless spell check on your phone EH? Can't say the same for your
blog. And I've got the small mind? Sc hi zo LOL
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Donald Gallant: Which is why our healthcare is funded with our tax dollars instead of with money grown on trees.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: In the States people who can't afford routine preventative health
care or health care for minor injuries and ailments try to care for
these things on their own. When the situation escalates to the point
that it's now severe rather than minor, they head for the ER. Not the
best way to deliver health care.
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: because 1 in 5 people dont show up for their appointments in NB
Tony Mcalbey
Methinks Higgy explain to us why family members as of midnight tonight can come into NB from other countries but can’t come into the province from within Canada. A spouse living in Boston can cross the border at houlton tonight but a grandparent in Amherst can’t venture across the ns/nb provincial border after midnight tonight to see a grandchild in sackville NB.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: if you need an explanation nothing will suffice for you.
doug kirby
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: that has been clarified through the federal gov now
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks Higgy et al must be concerned about what my spouse in
Boston and our children with dual citizenship status may do to protect
my Clan's rights and interests N'esy Pas?
Timothy
Kelley
Reply to @David Amos: Children must be dependant on you so probably shared custody in most cases.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Timothy
Kelley: His children have nothing to do with him he ran away from his
"clan". Not a single thing relies on him in any capacity.
David Amos
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Reply to @Timothy Kelley: Obviously neither of you don't know anything about my family
Reply to @Timothy Kelley: Obviously neither of you don't know anything about my family
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Methinks the telling stuff your bro in law states quite clearly in the
blog otherwise.. LOL. Call Oprah!!
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks your lawyer or your RCMP buddies should have advised you not to state such things AGAIN N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks Higgy et al find it funny that I can't visit my grandchildren in Amherst N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you posted it for all to see and I clearly am stating what I read. Public knowledge now that you post all.. good or bad. It's there to read not for me to make up from thin air!
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you are bragging about what you and your fellow RCMP shills posted about my family and I all over the internet since 2005 trust that i saved every word the 4 Chan malice is worth a fortune N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you are bragging about what you and your fellow RCMP shills posted about my family and I all over the internet since 2005 trust that i saved every word the 4 Chan malice is worth a fortune N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I just thought you'd be happy someone actually read your blog. Attention seeking links to it finally paid off Davey Boy
Harvey York
Reply to @Ray Oliver: pure gold, buddy. Pure gold.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Harvey York: His went "poof" as he likes to say. Darn.
David Amos
Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks you should google your own name and mine sometime N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: And the purpose behind that would be???
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: why would I Google myself? Peculiar indeed
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks even though most of the political minions won't mention my words until after CBC makes them evaporate they cannot deny the title of this article is almost identical to June 2nd N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/methinks-higgys-circus-must-go-on-and.html
#nbpoli #cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-campbellton-long-term-care-new-case-1.5602242
1 new case of COVID-19 linked to long-term care facility
4 of 15 active cases in province are in hospital
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 07, 2020 1:35 PM AT
Another case of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region has been linked to the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
Public Health is
reporting one new case of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, bringing
the total number of active cases in the province to 15.
The new case is a person in their 90s linked to the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville.
The long-term care facility has experienced an outbreak of the virus after one of its workers had contact with the Campbellton doctor who travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate.
The news release from public health does not say if the 90-year-old is a resident of the facility.
Four people who tested positive for the virus are in hospital, but none of the active cases are in intensive care.
All of New Brunswick active cases are in the Campbellton region, or Zone 5.
To date, 33,716 tests have been conducted and 121 people have recovered from the coronavirus.
Daniel Ouellette, a resident at Manoir de la Vallée, died earlier this week from COVID-19. He is the only person to die from the virus in New Brunswick so far.
On Saturday evening, Dooly's in Fredericton posted on Facebook that it is shutting down its Queen Street location temporarily after someone who visited Quebec and didn't self-isolate entered the pool hall. Dooly's could not be reached for comment on Sunday.
All areas of New Brunswick except Campbellton are in the yellow phase of recovery, which involves slowly reopening businesses, restaurants, offices and recreational facilities.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesThe new case is a person in their 90s linked to the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville.
The long-term care facility has experienced an outbreak of the virus after one of its workers had contact with the Campbellton doctor who travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate.
The news release from public health does not say if the 90-year-old is a resident of the facility.
Four people who tested positive for the virus are in hospital, but none of the active cases are in intensive care.
All of New Brunswick active cases are in the Campbellton region, or Zone 5.
To date, 33,716 tests have been conducted and 121 people have recovered from the coronavirus.
Daniel Ouellette, a resident at Manoir de la Vallée, died earlier this week from COVID-19. He is the only person to die from the virus in New Brunswick so far.
On Saturday evening, Dooly's in Fredericton posted on Facebook that it is shutting down its Queen Street location temporarily after someone who visited Quebec and didn't self-isolate entered the pool hall. Dooly's could not be reached for comment on Sunday.
All areas of New Brunswick except Campbellton are in the yellow phase of recovery, which involves slowly reopening businesses, restaurants, offices and recreational facilities.
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David Amos
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Methinks the title of this article is almost identical to the one on June 2nd Deja Vu N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: I knew ya heard things but you see them too? Uh oh
David Amos
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Welcome back to the circus
Graeme Scott
That Covid would manage to get into a nursing home in NB was probably inevitable. Sad, but inevitable.The flu takes a significant toll on the elderly in care homes every year but we just tend not to pay it any attention unless it affects us personally. These populations are frail , often have multiple underlying medical issues and are living in conditions very conducive to transmission of whatever comes along.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Graeme Scott: Higgy promised to protect all NBers. Typical government broken promises.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Graeme
Scott: Probably inevitable? Maybe. But all of the cases linked to the
Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville have been linked in turn to one
individual's "error of judgement." None of these cases would have
occurred if that individual had self-isolated for 14 days as they were
supposed to. Perhaps other cases would have shown up in other care
homes for other reasons, but we don't know that.
David Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks what you claim has yet to be proven N'esy Pas?
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: methinks you’re right yet again !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: He's right yet again ? Tells it all right there and where
you're coming from !! !!! Thanks for the laugh !!
Graham MacNab
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Awww... complimenting yourself... how cute.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: "Higgy promised to protect all NBers."
That is pure fiction. He never promised that every single person would be safe from covid. That is preposterous.
That is pure fiction. He never promised that every single person would be safe from covid. That is preposterous.
David Amos
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Reply to @Graham MacNab: Methinks its interesting that most of the minions won't mention me until after my words evaporate N'esy Pas?
Graeme Scott
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: If it hadn't been that reason it would have been something else. All the containment measures are merely a numbers game to improve the odds. None are foolproof and none work 100%. An realistic goal was never to stop Covid but rather control the overall numbers and the speed of the spread.
Marc Bourque
We all know who is responsible also ...............
Rod Keh
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: In virtually every case, COVID is just the last straw, that
finally kills the camel but it is hardly fair or reasonable to blame
COVID when any further burden would have been fatal and total quarantine
is the only thing that can save them.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Rod Keh: Exactly
David Amos
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Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks you should fess up or quit riding on my coattails N'esy Pas?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: A virus that kills people?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Rod Keh: "It takes years to do that kind of assessment."
You are speaking as if you have a degree in medicine specializing in organ damage.
FACT: doctors have noted permanent lung damage and fibrosis in patients recovering from severe bouts of covid. Google it if you still don't believe me.
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Methinks the stink coming from Higgy's circus tent will no doubt get worse as the days get longer and hotter and the clowns within his Police State keep embarrassing him N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/methinks-higgys-circus-must-go-on-and.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-long-term-care-facility-campbellton-1.5595109
1 new COVID-19 case detected in Atholville long-term care facility
One more person admitted to hospital, bringing the number hospitalized to five
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 02, 2020 2:42 PM AT
The Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville has an employee who tested positive for COVID-19, as well as five residents. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)
A new case of COVID-19 has been linked to a long-term care facility in Atholville.
New Brunswick announced one new case of the respiratory infection Tuesday, linking it to the previous four resident cases detected in Manoir de la Vallée.
The new case is a person between 80 and 89 years of age, in Zone 5 or the Campbellton region, said a news release.
There are now 13 active cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region. Public Health has previously linked the outbreak to a doctor who travelled to Quebec and didn't self-isolate for the mandatory 14 days when he returned.
The number of people in hospital has increased from four to five. One person is in intensive care.
The other affected residents of Manoir de la Vallée include three people in their 80s and one in their 70s from the 18-bed Alzheimer's unit.
A staff member from the facility has also tested positive.
The province has conducted 30,666 COVID-19 tests to date, including 2,204 tests in the past 24 hours.
A provincial news release says if you or a member of your family are showing two of the following symptoms, contact Tele-Care 811 or your primary health-care provider for further direction:
New Brunswick announced one new case of the respiratory infection Tuesday, linking it to the previous four resident cases detected in Manoir de la Vallée.
The new case is a person between 80 and 89 years of age, in Zone 5 or the Campbellton region, said a news release.
There are now 13 active cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region. Public Health has previously linked the outbreak to a doctor who travelled to Quebec and didn't self-isolate for the mandatory 14 days when he returned.
The other affected residents of Manoir de la Vallée include three people in their 80s and one in their 70s from the 18-bed Alzheimer's unit.
A staff member from the facility has also tested positive.
The province has conducted 30,666 COVID-19 tests to date, including 2,204 tests in the past 24 hours.
A provincial news release says if you or a member of your family are showing two of the following symptoms, contact Tele-Care 811 or your primary health-care provider for further direction:
- Fever above 38°C or signs of fever (such as chills).
- A new cough or worsening chronic cough.
- Sore throat.
- Runny nose.
- Headache.
- A new onset of fatigue.
- A new onset of muscle pain.
- Diarrhea.
- Loss of sense of taste or loss of sense of smell.
- In children, purple markings on the fingers or toes. In this instance, testing will be done even if none of the other symptoms are present.
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David Amos
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Methinks Higgy's Circus must go on and on and on N'esy Pas?
Bill Hamilton
This Dr is trying to make himself into the victim while both he and his wife are ignoring the travel restrictions. Interesting to see how the College of Physicians & surgeons responds to this.
Lou Bell
And now we learn the
Doc responsible for all this tendered his resignation a week or two
before this all came about . I think this guy has more skeletons in his
closet than he cares to tell us about .
Dave Corbin
The doctor is
reporting racist attacks, please racism in our province needs to be shut
down and considered a serious criminal offence.
Justin Time
Reply to @Dave Corbin: The "doctor" has reported a lot of things. Believe what you want.
Lou Bell
For some reason the
Doc is attempting to steer his infection to someone else in the
province and playing the " blame game " . His continued false narratives
makes him more guilty by the day .
Bob Smith
The doctor attempted
to portray this as "an error in judgement". No, it wasn't. It was
arrogance and criticism of it is not based in race issues at all.
Nat Bourret:
How about his
Hippocratic Oath: "First, do no harm"? Did he think about anybody else
but himself? This is not a racial issue - it's a serious lack of common
sense that puts us all in danger.
Lou Bell
And yet , some people will attempt to pass the blame off onto the Premier !'
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Seems to be more people talking about people blaming the premier than
people actually blaming the premier....
Dave
Shimla
" just a lapse in
Judgement" nothing to see here folks, lets just sweep this under the
rug. Nobody's fault at all, not even the "doctor".
Tom Simmons
Reply to @Dave
Shimla: Welcome to the 21st century, no personal responsibilities, no
one accountable. Government overreach. Quashing civil
liberties.....weeee everyone liking communism yet?
David Peters
Reply to @Tom Simmons:
Wait till the lineups for everything start, then ask..
Wait till the lineups for everything start, then ask..
Jezebel DeWitt Bukater
Furious!!! After that interview I have zero understanding or sympathy for that so called doctor!!
Jezebel DeWitt Bukater
Reply to @Bill Vasseur: That's disgusting!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/peterborough-city-councillor-punished-1.5604339
Ontario councillor who took N.B. road trip loses positions
Stephen Wright travelled to New Brunswick to survey how restaurants were reopening
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 09, 2020 11:45 AM AT
Coun. Stephen Wright has apologized for his recent road trip, saying he was 'overzealous' when he decided to drive from Ontario to New Brunswick to see how restaurant reopenings were contributing to the provincial economy. (Stephen Wright/Twitter)
A city councillor from Peterborough, Ontario who made a controversial road trip to New Brunswick despite COVID-19 restrictions has been punished by his council colleagues.
They voted Monday night to remove him from his position as economic development vice-chair and from council's seat on the board of the Greater Peterborough Chamber of Commerce.
Coun. Stephen Wright apologized for the trip last week, saying he was "overzealous" when he decided to drive to New Brunswick to see how restaurant reopenings were contributing to the provincial economy
The trip provoked fury, especially among New Brunswickers living outside the province who weren't able to visit loved ones or travel home for the yfunerals of family members.
The Higgs government has since loosened border restrictions for such trips.
Ontario councillor offers his 'regrets'
Wright said in a statement last week that he understood the criticism and offered his "deepest regrets."He said the trip was his own initiative and he paid for it himself.
Peterborough Mayor Diane Therrien introduced the motion to strip Wright of the two positions.
Last week she said his trip was "not reflective of city policy or what my office wants to see or [how] our councillors behave."
Premier Blaine Higgs said last week that Wright's decision did not 'seem like a legitimate reason' to travel to New Brunswick during the COVID-19 pandemic. (CBC)
The city council also voted to rescind its approval for Wright to run for a seat on the board of the Federation of Canadian Municipalities.
Wright opposed the decisions.
The New Brunswick government said last week it was investigating how its enforcement officers at the border had screened Wright and decided to let him in.
"It does not seem like a legitimate reason to come into the province," Premier Blaine Higgs said last week.
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David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/stephen-wright-peteborough-councillor-road-trip-new-brunswick-1.5596602
Ontario councillor apologizes for 10-day road trip to New Brunswick
Stephen Wright travelled to New Brunswick to survey how restaurants were reopening
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 03, 2020 12:59 PM AT
Peterborough Coun. Stephen Wright apologized for travelling to New Brunswick amid the COVID-19 pandemic to see how restaurants were reopening. (Stephen Wright/Twitter)
A city councillor from Peterborough has apologized for his 10-day road trip to New Brunswick, calling it "an error in judgment."
Stephen Wright says in a written statement he is offering "my sincerest apologies" to Premier Blaine Higgs and New Brunswickers, especially those living outside the province who can't travel home to be with loved ones.
"I receive our criticisms and hope you accept my deepest regrets," he said.
He said his decision to travel here to look at the economic impact of restaurants reopening as part of a COVID-19 recovery plan represented an "overzealous approach … and for that I am truly sorry."
Wright said he would not do any interviews or comment further on the episode, which provoked the ire of New Brunswickers in light of the province's ban on non-essential travel.
Trip not sanctioned by city, says mayor
Peterborough Mayor Diane Therrien told CBC News on Wednesday that the trip contradicted Petersborough's own pandemic advice to its citizens."Now is not the time to do any kind of fact-finding mission or any kind of travel," she said.
"We've been asking everybody to abide by staying at home, physical distancing … Certainly this behaviour is not reflective of what we're asking our residents to do and not reflective of city policy or what my office wants to see or our councillors behave."
Therrien repeated in the interview what she said in a emailed statement on Monday: "this was not a trip that was sanctioned by the city, or paid for, or known about."
Peterborough Mayor Diane Therrien says the trip was not sanctioned by the city. (Twitter - @DianeNTherrien)
Wright said Monday he was paying for the trip himself.
He said in his statement Wednesday he takes his councillor role "very seriously and do not consider that to provide me with any special privileges."
Inconsistencies
The first-term councillor is involved with economic development issues in Peterborough and said he wanted to research how restaurants were faring in New Brunswick now that they were allowed to partially reopen.He said he made the trip in part because business groups he contacted ahead of time didn't respond to his questions on the subject.
But four business organizations told CBC News this week they had no record of Wright trying to contact them.
An initial report in the Peterborough Examiner described the trip as lasting one weekend and said Wright stayed in his car the entire time.
He told CBC News this week he was misunderstood because of a poor phone connection and the trip lasted 10 days. He said he stayed in a private home in the province, in a separate unit from the owner, and assessed restaurant reopenings from his car.
Peterborough Coun. Stephen Wright said he didn't go in any of the restaurants. (Submitted by Stephen Wright)
He would not say where exactly he stayed to avoid "shaming" of his New Brunswick acquaintance, he said Monday.
He arrived May 14 and left May 23.
Therrien said in a video interview via Zoom that Wright "is a very involved councillor. He takes a lot of initiative. I think that this was not the best judgment call, but he is alway very interested in what is happening in other places and how we might learn from them.
"But I think this was not obviously a good time or an opportune moment to learn anything about what's going on that couldn't be done over the phone or these types of platforms."
Therrien said she spoke Wednesday morning to Saint John Mayor Don Darling, one of the first to question Wright's trip.
She said Darling acknowledged that "as mayors we're not always totally in control of what councillors do" and told her it was time to "move past this now."
Wright said in the Peterborough Examiner report that he had talked his way into New Brunswick by discussing with enforcement officers whether the travel ban went against the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
New Brunswick officials are now investigating what the officers asked him and what answers he gave them.
"We are aware of Councillor Wright's apology letter, but his visit remains under investigation," said Public Safety spokesperson Geoffrey Downey.
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David Amos
Methinks i am becoming like the old wisguy Higgy's minions tease me about because nothing surprises me anymore for instance Spin doctors claim I speak in riddles merely because they are too lazy to try to figure out why I tease Higgy and Cardy about their fondness to butter tarts N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: The butter tarts? Again? The only time anyone has ever responded to you. Surely you're smart enough barely to know when you're being mocked nesy pas???
David Amos
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Toph Beifong
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Reply to @David Amos:
What would you do differently? Would you allow everyone in and have
our strained hospitals overrun with Covid-19 and New Brunswickers unable
to go about their daily lives? Would you as premier personally man the
multiple border crossings all at one to ensure this never happened?
How exactly would you do things differently than Higgs?
David Amos
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Reply to @Toph Beifong: My first order of business would be to finally secure my right to Health Care
Helen Gorne
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Reply to @Toph Beifong: Alas, you are wasting your time responding to this poster.
Fred Sanford
Sure smells like B S to me.
David Amos
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Reply to @Fred
Sanford: Methinks before you finally have the "Big One" I should inform
you that after 3 articles and hundreds of comments no doubt you would be
happy to know that my little survey says everybody agrees with your
assessment N'esy Pas? David Amos
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Peterborough Mayor Diane Therrien should not deny the fact that i just called her office
Toph Beifong
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Reply to @David Amos: What's your deal? Are you a lawyer. You're as litigious as an American!
Reply to @David Amos: What's your deal? Are you a lawyer. You're as litigious as an American!
David Amos
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Reply to @Toph Beifong: I sue lawyers
Reply to @Toph Beifong: I sue lawyers
Toph Beifong
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Reply to @David Amos: Oh!
Reply to @David Amos: Oh!
Toph Beifong
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Reply to @David Amos: Sorry. I think a lot of what you say has no meaning to most of us because it's always in code.
Reply to @David Amos: Sorry. I think a lot of what you say has no meaning to most of us because it's always in code.
David Amos
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Reply to @Toph Beifong: I don't believe that is your real name so we are even Correct?
Reply to @Toph Beifong: I don't believe that is your real name so we are even Correct?
Toph Beifong
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Reply to @David Amos: Surely you must understand in our irrational and illogical society why someone might wish to have their opinion stated without the name attached?
Reply to @David Amos: Surely you must understand in our irrational and illogical society why someone might wish to have their opinion stated without the name attached?
David Amos
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Reply to @Toph Beifong: Its against the rules of this domain which is financed by my taxes
Reply to @Toph Beifong: Its against the rules of this domain which is financed by my taxes
Stanley Beemish
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Reply to @David Amos: would there be any reason for her to give a flying gig what you do?
Reply to @David Amos: would there be any reason for her to give a flying gig what you do?
Toph Beifong
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Reply to @David Amos: It's just that whether we agree or disagree with you, most of us have no clue what you're talking about. Wouldn't you rather that we understand the meaning of your posts?
Reply to @David Amos: It's just that whether we agree or disagree with you, most of us have no clue what you're talking about. Wouldn't you rather that we understand the meaning of your posts?
Toph Beifong
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Reply to @David Amos: Ok Hall monitor!
Reply to @David Amos: Ok Hall monitor!
David Amos
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Reply to @Stanley Beemish: Ask the lady if you dare
Reply to @Stanley Beemish: Ask the lady if you dare
David Amos
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Reply to @Toph Beifong: Witty
Reply to @Toph Beifong: Witty
Dan Stewart
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Reply to @David Amos: Did she deny you called her office? On the other hand I don't recall anyone asking her about you so why would she...
Reply to @David Amos: Did she deny you called her office? On the other hand I don't recall anyone asking her about you so why would she...
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks she didn't answer just the same as every other unwanted call you place with advice that no one wants
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks she didn't answer just the same as every other unwanted call you place with advice that no one wants
David Amos
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Reply to @Helen Gorne: "Alas, you are wasting your time responding to this poster."
So You Say EH?
Reply to @Helen Gorne: "Alas, you are wasting your time responding to this poster."
So You Say EH?
David Amos
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Reply to @Toph Beifong: My first order of business would be to finally secure my right to Health Care
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Had she answered what exactly would you have said? I'm curious as to why you think you're important enough to delve into everyone's business. You planning on sueing her? Might as well. Tie her into your giant con spir acy in your fascinating blog!!
Reply to @David Amos: Had she answered what exactly would you have said? I'm curious as to why you think you're important enough to delve into everyone's business. You planning on sueing her? Might as well. Tie her into your giant con spir acy in your fascinating blog!!
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks many folks are enjoying Higgy's circus today N'esy Pas?
Roland Stewart
Took the words right out of a Dr.'s mouth. Sounds like he's just messing with us.
Raymond Ridler
What a jacka - -.
David Amos
Dan Flanagan
What everyone wants to know is what areas of the province did he visit? Was he tested for the virus?
New Brunswickers have the right to know this. Sleeping in your car is one thing but everybody has to get food & use a bathroom.
JoeBrown
John Smith
I don't think the Province knows from one day to the next what the "rules" are so how can we expect strangers? I live here and I am still scratching my head. We allow temporary foreign workers in but not families who are grieving a loved one. The Province allows workers from Nova Scotia to come work on a mill shutdown, when we have skilled tradespersons here already and do NOT require them to self isolate. Like who is running this gong show???
Douglas James
" Darling acknowledged that "as mayors we're not always totally in control of what councillors do" . Not always totally in control? Mr. Darling's confusion over democracy continues unabated.
David Amos
SarahRose Werner
Pretty much everyone who goes ahead and breaks a law does so after "judging" that their chances of getting caught are slim. In this sense, all crimes are errors of judgement. Should they all be excused on this basis?
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Since there’s no spread of Covid 19 related to this individual’s travel, there’s not really much of a story here. Many persons who are not NB residents are travelling in and through New Brunswick. We’d prefer otherwise but our borders are not sealed in the absolute sense.
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks many folks are enjoying Higgy's circus today N'esy Pas?
Roland Stewart
Took the words right out of a Dr.'s mouth. Sounds like he's just messing with us.
Toph Beifong
Reply to @Roland
Stewart: The doctor said "maybe it was an error in judgment". Maybe!!??
That doctor is rubbing salt in the wound.
David Amos
Reply to @Toph Beifong: Methinks you learned something today N'esy Pas?
Raymond Ridler
What a jacka - -.
David Amos
Reply to @Raymond Ridler: You are too kind
Dan Flanagan
What everyone wants to know is what areas of the province did he visit? Was he tested for the virus?
New Brunswickers have the right to know this. Sleeping in your car is one thing but everybody has to get food & use a bathroom.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Dan
Flanagan: How many bureaucrats should we hire t o provide all those
answers for you? You don't believe his claim that he never left his car
while viewing, but somehow you hting there is a magic way to tell where
he went.
JoeBrown
Reply to @JoeBrown: somehow you think there is a magic way to tell where he went.
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @JoeBrown: track his cell phone.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Johnny
Jakobs: wow, micromanagement studying someone who has not committed a
crime? You could never get a court order to do that or find any cop who
would even bother since he never left his car. There is no covid in nB
other than one cluster that will soon be contained, just like Caul
cluster was stopped in its tracks.
AB has an international airport and open borders with other provinces and their new cases have gone from 200 range a month ago to 13. This is not an out of control situation with massive new cases daily, so NB will be just fine if they forget about him peering through his windshield.
AB has an international airport and open borders with other provinces and their new cases have gone from 200 range a month ago to 13. This is not an out of control situation with massive new cases daily, so NB will be just fine if they forget about him peering through his windshield.
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @JoeBrown: cops track cell phones every day without warrants. If you dont think so, you're being naive.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: I have been arrested twice without warrants
John Smith
I don't think the Province knows from one day to the next what the "rules" are so how can we expect strangers? I live here and I am still scratching my head. We allow temporary foreign workers in but not families who are grieving a loved one. The Province allows workers from Nova Scotia to come work on a mill shutdown, when we have skilled tradespersons here already and do NOT require them to self isolate. Like who is running this gong show???
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @John Smith:
The lunatics are running the asylum.
The lunatics are running the asylum.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Ya gotta love the circus
Douglas James
" Darling acknowledged that "as mayors we're not always totally in control of what councillors do" . Not always totally in control? Mr. Darling's confusion over democracy continues unabated.
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas James: Yup
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas
James: Methinks your buddy Mayor Darling has yet to recover from out
encounter in Fat Fred City on Ernie's budget day. Some folks may recall
he announced the very next day that he had changed his mind about
running to be the Mayor again N'esy Pas?
SarahRose Werner
Pretty much everyone who goes ahead and breaks a law does so after "judging" that their chances of getting caught are slim. In this sense, all crimes are errors of judgement. Should they all be excused on this basis?
JoeBrown
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: "Therrien said in a video interview via Zoom that Wright "is a
very involved councillor. He takes a lot of initiative. ...... he is
always very interested in what is happening in other places and how we
might learn from them."
The fact he paid for the entire trip on his own dime gives the clue that angry people prefer to ignore. Plus Therrien's testimony makes it a lot more plausible that he actually did just sit in his car rather than what angry posters are claiming - but that is because they have no facts, just conclusions.
The fact he paid for the entire trip on his own dime gives the clue that angry people prefer to ignore. Plus Therrien's testimony makes it a lot more plausible that he actually did just sit in his car rather than what angry posters are claiming - but that is because they have no facts, just conclusions.
Andrew
Buckle
Reply to @JoeBrown:
If you think he sat in his car for 10 days give your head a shake. It
also matters not who paid for the trip. He blatantly element against
what he and his fellow councillors recommend. In my humble opinion he
thinks he is above everyone and that he can do what he wants without
having any repercussions.
JoeBrown
Reply to @Andrew
Buckle: If I thought you any of what you wrote proved he was out of his
car I would head to the nearest conspiracy theory meeting and be pleased
to meet you in person.
David Amos
Reply to @JoeBrown: You talk big but everybody knows you would run from me
Since there’s no spread of Covid 19 related to this individual’s travel, there’s not really much of a story here. Many persons who are not NB residents are travelling in and through New Brunswick. We’d prefer otherwise but our borders are not sealed in the absolute sense.
Terry
Tibbs
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison:
So, where did the sealed border untruth originate and why do they still have a job?
So, where did the sealed border untruth originate and why do they still have a job?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: methinks it was one of Cardy's bright ideas after he had partaken
of way too many butter tarts again N'esy Pas?
SarahRose Werner
We
seem to have an outbreak of errors in judgement. Is there any work
being done on a vaccine or at least reliable tests and treatment?
Monsieur Rioux
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Heh.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
You only make errors in judgement when you lack education. As "you know who" is minister of education I would only expect errors of judgement to increase 10 fold in the coming years.
You only make errors in judgement when you lack education. As "you know who" is minister of education I would only expect errors of judgement to increase 10 fold in the coming years.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Me Too
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-business-group-doubt-city-councillor-peterborough-1.5595286
Business groups have no record of Peterborough councillor asking for information
4 organizations have no record of any contact from Stephen Wright
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 02, 2020 4:52 PM AT |
Luc Erjavec, with the Canadian Restaurant and Food services Association, said his organization has no record of Peterborough city councillor Stephen Wright making contact with them. (CBC News)
Four New Brunswick business organizations are casting doubt on claims by a Peterborough city councillor that he sought information from groups like them before embarking on a 10-day road trip to the province.
Stephen Wright told CBC News on Monday that he tried to contact chambers of commerce and business associations ahead of time to see how restaurants were faring with reopening, to no avail.
"Those calls were made," he said. "They were never returned."
But four such organizations say they have no record of any such calls or emails.
"We've never heard from him," said Luc Erjavec, the Atlantic vice-president of Restaurants Canada.
"We're a phone call away, so we would have loved to have talked to him, shared our experiences, hooked him up with some operators to speak with. So no, we had not heard from him."
Similar answers came from two chambers of commerce in two cities Wright said he visited.
"I checked with all of our staff members and we do not have any record of Mr. Wright attempting to contact the Fredericton Chamber of Commerce via phone or email," said spokesperson Morgan Peters.
Sylvain Montreuil of the Greater Moncton Chamber of Commerce said he had checked three different chamber email accounts and "we didn't find any 'correspondence' from Mr. Wright."
Louis-Philippe Gauthier, director of provincial affairs for New Brunswick at the Canadian Federation of Independent Business had the same answer.
"We have no record of the councillor reaching out to us."
Questions continue about trip
Wright's 10-day trip to New Brunswick, from May 14 to 23, has sparked questions from political leaders and outrage on social media, given a ban on non-essential travel into the province due to COVID-19.The province has launched an investigation into what provincial enforcement officers asked Wright at the border and what he told them. That investigation is ongoing, Public Safety spokesperson Geoffrey Downey said Tuesday.
Premier Blaine Higgs has said the trip "does not seem like a legitimate reason to come into the province."
He won't say where he stayed or who he stayed with, but says by doing so, and by staying in his car when he did his research, he was complying with New Brunswick's requirement that new arrivals self-isolate for 14 days.
Peterborough Coun. Stephen Wright told CBC News he contacted business organizations in the province to find out information on how restaurants were doing after reopening. No groups have any record of any contact made by him. (Submitted by Stephen Wright)
The first-term councillor said he's involved with economic recovery efforts in Peterborough and wanted to see whether New Brunswickers were "now in a frame of mind that they were willing to go and do in-room dining" in restaurants.
He said he did "a lot of preliminary work" in advance to research the issue but was not able to get any responses from organizations representing restaurants.
He also said there's a difference between "getting something secondhand, or getting it firsthand."
Wright did not respond to a request for a follow-up interview Tuesday.
Information available
A border checkpoint on Route 120. An investigation is underway into how Peterborough city councillor, Stephen Wright was able to enter the province, which is not open to non-essential travel. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Erjavec said he has plenty of information at his fingertips on how restaurants are faring now that they can reopen under the yellow phase of New Brunswick's recovery plan.
He says he surveys members regularly and also worked with the province to develop reopening guidelines, so he would have responded eagerly to a request from Wright.
"I'm talking to members on a daily basis and have a real feel for what's happening in the industry," he said.
Saint John Mayor Don Darling, one of the first to raise concerns about Wright's trip, says several parts of his story have not withstood scrutiny.
"Something is not adding up here. I think people are very angry about this particular case and one of these days, perhaps we'll find out what really happened."
Darling plans to speak to Peterborough Mayor Diane Therrien on Wednesday. Therrien said in a statement Monday that the trip "was not at council's direction or the mayor's direction."
Wright said Monday the trip was his own initiative. He said he was paying for it himself and would not claim travel expenses.
Method of research questioned
Erjavec also questioned the way Wright says he went about his research while in the province. The councillor said Monday he didn't actually enter any restaurants."I didn't need to. There were ample amount of restaurants with parking stalls in front of the restaurant and you can look right in," he said.
"I drove past a Tim Horton's and there was one individual in that particular Tim Horton's and the drive-thru line was unbelievable."
Erjavec says judging a restaurant's success from its parking lot is not the best way to assess how it's doing.
"As a leader in his community, it's incumbent on him to get the facts, and you get the facts by asking questions, by talking to people, researching, and not just simply having a cursory glance," he said.
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David Amos
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Methinks Mayor Don Darling, Sylvain Montreuil and Louis-Philippe Gauthier would deny that I ever contacted them as well. However many people know that I have been on TV with Chambers of Commerce people last fall and met the other two dudes in person in the past year Perhaps I should contact Luc Erjavec and Mr Wright to be fair to all and keep everyone on an even keel with Higgy and I N'esy Pas?
Stephen Robertson
Sorry councilor, but there is a distinct smell of male bovine droppings about your story.
David Amos
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Reply to @Stephen Robertson: Methinks it smells a lot like Higgy's circus tent which no doubt get worse as the days get longer and hotter N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Stephen Robertson: Methinks it smells a lot like Higgy's circus tent which no doubt get worse as the days get longer and hotter N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Good job Mr Higgs!
I am really happy you have secured our borders.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Mr. Higgs has the borders secured . it just appears someone at the border dropped the ball ! Lost in translation probably .
Donald Smith
Reply to @Lou Bell: I
sure hope Lou for goodness sake the NB Security people are indeed
screening tough at our NB Airports. I know of somebody who actually told
me they are coming into New Brunswick albeit later this month to just
work on house repairs while out borders are locked down. And yes, I did
report the same to GNB Officials. So I'm hoping indeed they do not get
in if Borders are still locked down.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Poof
Jos Allaire
Candidness has always been a rare attribute of politicians.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Dans de the house des cartes est tui , dui , et lui . Ah ha !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Eichon , Biechon , et Nod . Tres odd . OMG !
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Mais Oui
Jim Cyr
This is crazy
.
David Amos
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Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks he would get along just fine with your buddy Trump N'esy Pas?
janice small
Oh boy he will have lots of attention...Won't be good attention..You can run but you can'y hide ..His story in New Brunswick is a changing moving target..
David Amos
Reply to @janice small: Welcome back to the circus
Miles Long
His story here and in the Peterborough examiner are not consistent, he is a flake looking for attention.
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Miles Long: Methinks all politicians can be painted with the same brush N'esy Pas?
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: You ran for office didnt you Dave?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Dan
Stewart: Shouldm't one have to get more than 25 votes at least once
after they have run several times to be called a politician ?
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @Lou Bell: I
suppose to be fair one must win an election to really be a politician.
So perhaps a political Wannabe would be more apropos.
janice small
Wow
this is really weird and has a smell to it and the longer it sits the
worst the smell is..Time to take it too the trash.. Sounds like a quiet
under the table ( I will pay my expensives ) Maybe a Plenty Of Fish or
a kijji on line dating theme..Nothing adds up for this councilor..The
more he is questioned the more his story line changes like Canadian
weather...Need to have a very thorough investigation from NB and
Peterborough Ontario to what he was doing here is a stealth mode.. AND
WHO LET HIM IN ??
Tony
Mcalbey
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Reply to @janice small: so much for Higgy's police state
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Methinks the Keystone Cops had far more class than Higgy's
doubtful dudes could ever dream of N'esy Pas?
Bob Smith
Sounds like the
councillor's story has more than a few holes in it. Might be best for
him to drop the pretense now and admit he came to the province for non
essential reasons - a personal trip.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Bob Smith: Methinks many would agree that this clown is a wonderful addition to Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
Lieschen Mueller
Reply to @Bob Smith: Sounds like Swiss cheese!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-new-brunswick-ontario-border-councillor-1.5593332
Ontario councillor who took New Brunswick road trip claims he stayed in private home
Coun. Stephen Wright says he came here to assess restaurant reopenings
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 01, 2020 6:18 PM AT
Peterborough Coun. Stephen Wright said he didn't go in any of the restaurants. (Submitted by Stephen Wright)
A Peterborough, Ont., city councillor who entered New Brunswick despite COVID-19 border restrictions now says he stayed at the private home of an acquaintance in the province.
Stephen Wright told CBC News Monday afternoon that what he calls a research trip lasted 10 days and he decided to try it because of inconsistent answers from provincial officials about whether he would be admitted to the province.
"I erred on the side that that was information that I needed to find out in doing part of my job and [I] took the necessary precaution that I kept myself safe, and anybody that I ever would have come into contact with, safe as well."
An initial news report in the Peterborough Examiner newspaper described the road trip as lasting a weekend and quoted Wright saying he promised New Brunswick enforcement officers at the border that he would stay in his car during the entire trip.
But Wright told CBC Monday that he was misunderstood when he spoke to the paper about the length of the trip.
That was at the private residence of an acquaintance who had been working at home for several months, he said.
"I won't reveal where in the province I stayed because it seems there are enough people who want to do some public shaming. But no, I had friends who had made arrangements for a place for me," he said.
"Where I was staying, I had no contact with nobody else there, either," he added. He called it "a separate self-contained unit" apart from his acquaintance with "no shared living area or bathroom."
Provincial staff stop and question anyone entering the province as part of the effort to stop the spread of COVID-19. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)
Wright said he didn't tell enforcement officers at the border that he'd be staying at a private residence where someone was already living because "that question wasn't asked."
Wright is a member of a regional economic recovery task force in the Peterborough area and said he wanted to come to New Brunswick to see how restaurant reopenings were going.
He said Monday he did not enter any New Brunswick restaurants but assessed the success of their openings by looking at how many cars were in their parking lots and drive-thru line-ups.
He said he chose not to check downtown restaurants without parking lots.
Investigation underway
Premier Blaine Higgs said at a media briefing Sunday he wanted to know more about how Wright was allowed into the province, given a ban on non-essential visits."It is under full investigation because it does not seem like a legitimate reason to come into the province," he said. "We will evaluate just what questions were asked but more importantly what answers were given."
Public Safety spokesperson Geoffrey Downey said Monday afternoon the investigation is ongoing "and we will be reviewing our records and following up with the City of Peterborough to determine if this was work travel authorized by the City."
Trip not at council's direction
Ashley Webster, a spokesperson for Peterborough Mayor Diane Therrien, said the trip "was not at council's direction or the mayor's direction" and the city didn't pay for it.Wright confirmed he paid for the trip himself. He said he has sometimes funded his own research into issues to get "the other side of the argument."
The deputy minister at the public safety department, Mike Comeau, said on Twitter Monday afternoon that crossing a border "often involves officers having to decide whether to believe what a person is telling them. It's inherent to border control."
'Beyond disrespectful'
News of Wright's trip frustrated New Brunswickers living elsewhere in Canada who've been trying to get permission to enter the province to visit relatives with life-threatening illnesses or to bury loved ones who have died."I'm floored. I can only surmise that somebody decided that this person was important and should be allowed to come in," said Lesley Shannon, a British Columbia resident originally from the Saint John area.
She wants to travel to the province for the burial of her mother Lorraine, who died in April. A house has been rented for her and friends are prepared to drop off groceries so she can heed the rules to self-isolate for 14 days before the burial, she said.
"I think the reasoning [for letting Wright in] is shocking," she said.
Lesley Shannon, pictured here with her late mother, Lorraine, is trying to get into New Brunswick by early July for her mother's burial. (Submitted by Lesley Shannon)
Shannon's mother has to be buried by early July because the cemetery does not have cooling in its vault. "We've been told that's a non-negotiable situation."
With a two-week isolation period and the scarcity of flights during the pandemic, she said her window to attend the burial is closing fast.
Yet the province isn't showing her the same flexibility it showed Wright when it let him in to count cars in restaurant parking lots, she said.
"To me it's beyond disrespectful that my mom would have to be buried without me being there when I'm perfectly capable of being there."
Questions about consistency, compassion
Dave Perry, an Ottawa resident originally from New Brunswick whose father is in the oncology unit at the Saint John Regional Hospital with life-threatening leukemia, said he was also stunned to read about Wright's trip."I'm just not seeing much consistency in terms of how the province determines who's allowed in, and not much compassion in the compassionate policy," he said.
Both Shannon and Perry said they've been frustrated seeing the province make allowances for temporary foreign workers and university students to enter the province, but not grieving relatives.
"The process for figuring out the process for trying to do this is not good," Shannon said. "It's really terrible, to be honest."
Perry said: "I'm just looking for a mechanism where, if I need to, I can get home to see my family."
Shannon said she could have flown home before her mother's death on April 13 because the province hadn't yet stationed enforcement officers at airports to screen incoming flights.
But she heeded advice not to come and now "it looks like I'm going to pay the price for doing what our provincial and federal government officials begged us all to do."
Wore protective equipment
Wright suggested that New Brunswick's limitations on interprovincial travel are unconstitutional, something that some experts and advocacy groups have also raised. But he said he didn't travel to the province for the sake of making a point.Wright said he always paid for gas at the pumps and used gloves, N95 masks and hand sanitizer while in New Brunswick.
He said he had contacted business organizations in the province to get information about how the recovery was going but they didn't respond and he decided to travel here himself to see things firsthand.
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I did not bother to try to post a single word but Lou Bell et al were busy as usualLou Bell
Driving around in
ones car is such a simplistic attitude for " finding out how N.B. is
handling things firsthand " ! He should tell us the truth why he really
was here ! And was it on his cities dime ? If so they should be very
concerned how this guy handles his expenses ! And if not , the he was L i
eeee in g !
John Oliver
Reply to @Lou Bell: Did you even read the article?
Wright confirmed he paid for the trip himself. He said he has sometimes funded his own research into issues to get "the other side of the argument."
I don't think it was right to do this but they way some of you New Brunswickers act and react makes me inclined to be opposed to anything you say.
Wright confirmed he paid for the trip himself. He said he has sometimes funded his own research into issues to get "the other side of the argument."
I don't think it was right to do this but they way some of you New Brunswickers act and react makes me inclined to be opposed to anything you say.
Lou Bell
Is this what the City
of Peterborough was looking for when they voted yhis guy in? False
statements to authorities , breaking rules during the pandemic ?
Obviously self entitlement ? Let's hear from their Mayor and Council ?
Is this what you want representing your city ? And FIND OUT WHY he was
really here !!!!!!!!!!!!!
etc etc etc
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