Tuesday, 16 May 2023

Child and youth advocate, N.B. premier clash over need to review LGBTQ school policy

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-lgbtq-policy-broken-lamrock-1.6844945

 

Child and youth advocate, N.B. premier clash over need to review LGBTQ school policy

Kelly Lamrock says department received only 3 emailed complaints, but Blaine Higgs says there were more

Kelly Lamrock says the review appears to have been prompted by a total of three emails to the department over the 30 months since Policy 713 was adopted.

"I am not sure any government decision could survive if receiving three complaints led to reconsideration," he writes in a letter to departmental officials attached to a report he issued Tuesday.

WATCH | Premier Blaine Higgs answers reporters' questions about Policy 713 

Premier Blaine Higgs responds to reporters’ questions about Policy 713

Duration 2:03
Higgs says schools should have to inform parents if a child under 16 wants to change their names and pronouns, and that young children should not be exposed to drag queen storytimes.

Last week, Education Minister Bill Hogan told reporters he had received complaints numbering in the "hundreds, at least" about the policy.

Hogan repeated that claim in the legislature Tuesday, and Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters the number is "much more than three."

In an often contentious media scrum, Higgs defended the review, which the department says will examine whether parents should be informed if children under the age of 16 want to adopt a different name and pronoun at school.

"For it purposefully to be hidden from the parents, that's a problem," Higgs said.

The premier said he wants all children "to feel comfortable and safe" in school and acknowledged some children may fear telling their parents about their sexual orientation or gender identity.

But he said that ultimately schools should be obligated to tell parents everything.

"That's why we have children and that's why we have adults," he said. "And that's why we have parents.

"To suggest that it's OK that parents don't need to know — just stop and think about that question for a moment."

Policy 713 sets minimum requirements for schools to create a safe, welcoming environment for lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex and two-spirited students. 

A man speaking. Education Minister Bill Hogan issued a statement Tuesday morning explaining which parts of Policy 713 are being reviewed. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Until this week, Hogan has been vague about the specifics of the complaints — an ambiguity that Lamrock says in his report can allow hate to fester. 

"If you're going to review a policy, like Policy 713, you'd better be clear about what details you're reviewing," he writes.

"Because if you treat it like just another review, a loud minority will use that platform to attack vulnerable kids and make them feel scared and ashamed of who they are."

On Tuesday morning, just hours before Lamrock's report was released, Hogan issued a statement clarifying which parts of Policy 713 are being reviewed.

He said one is the provision that allows students under the age of 16 to change their preferred first name and pronoun without their parents knowing.

The statement said the second is "the process for team sport selection and participation." The policy allows students to participate in extracurricular activities "that are safe, welcoming, and consistent with their gender identity."

A group of people stand outside a historical building. Several people are carrying large pride flags. Supporters of Policy 713 gathered outside the legislature in Fredericton on Saturday afternoon. (Isabelle Arseneau/Radio-Canada)

Hogan's statement also mentioned concerns "about the age appropriateness of what is taught in the classroom when it comes to sexual education," though curriculum is not covered by the policy.

For example, Higgs told reporters, he doesn't think elementary and kindergarten children should attend drag queen storytime events.

"We're teaching kids to develop and grow, and they need to be making decisions as they get older and they get wiser. Are we trying to teach tolerance and acceptance, or are we trying to teach promotion?"

Opposition MLAs said they were disappointed with Higgs's comments.

Liberal Leader Susan Holt said the premier has to show leadership and explain to New Brunswickers "why students may confide in a teacher or a counsellor information that they do not feel comfortable sharing with their parent, and that you have to protect the child and their interests in that case."

Green MLA Kevin Arseneau said he doesn't expect his children's teachers to tell him everything.

"I think any kid should be able to go to school and feel that's a safe space, and if they don't feel that openness at home and want to start using that language elsewhere, I don't think necessarily in that case a parent needs to know." 

Hogan's statement said New Brunswick "is not the only jurisdiction engaged in this conversation," though it didn't identify any others.

"We want to have a conversation with New Brunswickers so we can hear their views, address misconceptions and concerns, and provide the very best educational environment for all our students."

The statement didn't say where that conversation would take place but emphasized the policy won't be repealed and the school system will respect human rights.

"We will always protect our most vulnerable and ensure they have a safe and inclusive educational environment," it said. "We respect and embrace differences in all of our students."

Request for clarity

Lamrock's report called on Hogan to make that clear. 

The child and youth advocate also said there were no written complaints about Policy 713 from teachers or students. 

"In my respectful view, that matters," he wrote.

"There may be some who would like to insert themselves into the school community to tell vulnerable kids that they don't like their choices, or their freedoms, or them. Politics is just letting the culture wars rage past the school doors. Leadership is drawing lines that keep our kids safe." 

A crowd of people huddled together with some rainbow flags raised in the air. Around 350 people showed up at King's Square in Saint John on Monday to protest the review of Policy 713. (Mia Urquhart/CBC)

The policy, adopted in 2020, says students have the right to self-identify and express themselves without fear of consequence, and teachers must create a school culture where the students "see themselves and their lives positively reflected."

The policy allows students to pick which pronouns apply to them and requires teachers to respect their choice. It lets them establish gender-sexuality alliance groups without requiring parental consent or notification. 

It also says each school must have at least one gender-neutral bathroom. 

Lamrock's report includes the three emailed complaints.

One compares gender identity issues to "Marxist and racist critical race theory," another says Policy 713 marginalizes Christians, and a third asks about a widespread but debunked belief that students can identify as animals and use litter boxes in schools.

The New Brunswick Human Rights Commission also weighed in on the review this week, issuing a statement that it "expresses concern" about reports of a review.

"It is in times such as these that we should be able to rely on our government to uphold the culture of respect, equality, and dignity of all persons, which our society has achieved after prolonged sacrifices and hardships," it said. "These rights are here to stay."

The review prompted a protest at the New Brunswick legislature on Saturday and another by high school students in uptown Saint John on Monday. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 
 
 
181 Comments

 

David Amos 
Kelly Lamrock should review all the documents and emails I have been sending him since 2004 
 
 
 
David Amos  
I wonder how many emails Lamrock got discussing "Butter Tart" nonsense 
 
 
 
David Amos  
"Opposition MLAs said they were disappointed with Higgs's comments."

Methinks Opposition MLAs should review the signatures on the infamous "Butter Tart" note for a little comic relief N'esy Pas?

Don Corey 
Kelly Lamrock is pretty much the same as the writer of this story....they're hardcore Liberals.

So it's never a surprise when both of them are on the attack against the Higgs' government.

They're certainly taking the wrong approach though on this story.

I don't always agree with Higgs, but for the few who will actually take the time to listen to his explanation, you'll have to agree that he's right (unless you just prefer to blindly disagree with everything he says and does.....lots of those here too).

 
Michael Cain
Reply to Don Corey
Read the policy. 
 
 
Larry Jamieson
Reply to Don Corey 
Including those children who may be in danger from a parent! Let’s get real; situations are not always black and white! These decisions can be life and death! 
 
 
Sarah Brown
Reply to Don Corey He is not even close to being right. Premier Higgs’ views are outdated and he had the gaul to infer Drag Story time is about promotion….
 
 
Michael Cain
Reply to Don Corey
I highly doubt Higgs has even read the policy, and the interviewers' questions want to catch him in a faux pas.  
 
 
Mark Benson 
Reply to Sarah Brown 
Than what is it about? 
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Michael Cain 
Read my post. I'm well aware where you fit. 
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Larry Jamieson  
Children in danger from a parent need a LOT more protection than the school system can provide.  
 
 
Michael Cain
Reply to Don Corey
Not reading the policy shows ignorance of the subject.  
 
 
Larry Jamieson  
Reply to Don Corey
Absolutely, but guess where that protection will begin - with a teacher at school! The law requires it!. 
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Larry Jamieson 
Since when did teachers become responsible for providing protection to kids in danger from parents? Tell me what law states any such thing. 
 
 
Graham McCormack 
Reply to Don Corey
Family Services Act (S.N.B. 1980, c. F-2.2) 
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Graham McCormack   
Thanks.

I see nothing in the Act that specifically requires a teacher to provide protection to a kid from his/her parent(s). 

 
Graham McCormack 
Reply to Don Corey 
Read section 30  
 
 
Pat Holland
Reply to Don Corey
That’s exactly what’s happening if Higgs said the sky is blue they would stand up and say how dare you say that. Clearly it’s not  
 
 
Larry Jamieson
Reply to Larry Jamieson   
The Child Protection Act requires all adults to take action to protect children when neglect or abuse may be suspected! The Education Act requires teachers to act in “loco parentis” - in place of parents. It’s the law!  
 
 
Larry Jamieson  
Reply to Don Corey
Family Services Act that leads to the Child Protection protocols..  
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Pat Holland 
On the contrary, despite the feeble attempts here to pretend otherwise, the sky is not falling. It's a story about nothing. The sky colours change with the time and weather lol.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
I agree but I do see storm clouds gathering over Higgy et al
Don Corey
Reply to David Amos
I concur; no doubt about it.
Don Corey
Reply to Michael Cain 
Whatever you think. 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Michael Cain
It's always interesting to see first hand the numbers of people ignorant to the fact that freedom of speech means differing points of view. Most are understanding of such, but a few always feel they are right and that's the way it should be.

 

 

 

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