Volga-Dneper's
Antonov-124 sits on the tarmac at Pearson Airport in Toronto last
March, after Canada's airspace closed to Russian-registered aircraft and
the cargo airline was forced to suspend much of its global operations
because of sanctions. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press)
When
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau briefed reporters in Kyiv last weekend on
plans to seize a Russian cargo plane that has been stranded on the
tarmac at Pearson International for over a year, he merely confirmed
what trade lawyers and aviation industry watchers had been expecting for
weeks.
When Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal got back
from meetings in Canada with Trudeau and Finance Minister Chrystia
Freeland in April, he took to his Facebook page to point
out how Canada's latest sanctions targeted Volga-Dnepr — a Russian cargo
airline a Ukrainian court had already grounded for alleged safety
violations.
"Preparing for the confiscation of the
[Antonov-124] plane and other assets of the aggressor in Canada and
[transferring] them to the benefit of Ukraine," Shmyhal wrote.
Canada added both the Volga-Dnepr Group and Volga-Dnepr Airlines to its list of sanctioned Russian entities on April 5.
But officials said very little about seizing this cargo plane — until
Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly confirmed Canada's intentions as
part of another assistance package for Ukraine announced
during Trudeau's recent surprise trip.
"Should the asset
ultimately be forfeited to the Crown, Canada will work with the
Government of Ukraine on options to redistribute this asset to
compensate victims of human rights abuses, restore international peace
and security, or rebuild Ukraine," says a news release issued Saturday
by Global Affairs Canada (GAC).
Notwithstanding this apparent slow
walk to an official announcement, Trudeau said his government's plan
is to make this forfeiture happen "as soon as possible."
"We are
one of the first countries to bring in specific legislation that allows
us not just to ground this plane but to actually seize it and ensure
that it is never used by Russia again in the war effort or any other
efforts," Trudeau told reporters.
"There is a process. This is one
of the early processes we're going through. I can tell you the
Ukrainians are very pleased that the path is started, not just for
Canada but hopefully for other countries as well."
Budget bill used for sanctions law
The
federal government gave itself the power to seize and sell Russian
assets through budget implementation legislation a year ago.
At the time, Freeland was told the seizure powers could be risky for Canada.
Some warned that the new powers played a bit loose with international law.
Some predicted that selling off or transferring Russian assets to help
rebuild Ukraine (or pursue other worthy causes) would open the door
to hostile governments retaliating by liquidating Canadian-owned assets —
putting the foreign investments of Canadian citizens and companies at
increased risk whenever foreign relations turn sour.
Ukrainian
Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal, seen here meeting Justin Trudeau during
the Canadian prime minister's surprise visit to Kyiv Saturday, scooped
the Canadian government by revealing on Facebook that Canada would seize
a Russian cargo plane two months before the federal cabinet actually
issued its order to do so. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press)
Canada didn't use its new powers immediately.
Its
first move came last December 19, with an order-in-council to seize $26
million US in financial assets held by Granite Capital, a company
believed to be owned by sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich.
Saturday's order seizing Volga-Dnepr's Antonov-124 is only Ottawa's second use of this power.
Sanctions usually
freeze assets as a (hopefully) temporary incentive to change behaviour.
When assets are sold as punishment, they can't be returned if
and when the harm stops. Trade experts say that's a significant
departure from past practice.
"Canada is really being viewed as
the test case," said John Boscariol, a Toronto lawyer who represents
individuals and businesses affected by sanctions regulations. To date,
the U.S. has gone after Russian oligarch money only in connection with
criminal activities.
"They're going to be very careful to dot the
i's and cross the t's," Boscariol said. "The last thing they want is for
this to be a failure."
No court filing yet
Issuing an
order-in-council to seize an asset is only the first step. Under
Canada's law, these assets remain the property of their Russian owners
until a Canadian court orders a forfeiture.
At the time this
article was published, the federal government had yet to confirm
anything has been filed in an Ontario court on either the cargo plane or
the seizure of Abramovich's assets. Case watchers must diligently check
and check again for progress.
Procedural fairness requires the
Russian owners to be represented in court. But it's not yet clear how
that would work. A Canadian law firm might require special permission
from Joly to act on behalf of a sanctioned entity or individual, as
commercial dealings (like being paid for legal services) are otherwise
prohibited.
GAC declined to answer questions from CBC News on
whether ministerial permits to allow for such legal representation have
been granted or are in the works.
Prime
Minister Justin Trudeau and Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland
paid tribute to fallen soldiers at Ukraine's Wall of Remembrance in Kyiv
Saturday. Trudeau's government has pledged to use the proceeds from
selling off Russian assets in Canada to help fund Ukraine's
reconstruction. (Valentyn Ogirenko/Pool via Associated Press)
A
certain amount of uncertainty and chaos comes with any unprecedented
legal process. But the Trudeau government's latest attempt to crack down
on Russian President Vladimir Putin's enablers imposes new burdens on a
Canadian sanctions regime that practitioners like Boscariol have long
claimed fails to provide effective guidance on how companies and
individuals can avoid violations in their business dealings.
The
only reason this plane is even in Canada now is that it was contracted
to deliver massive shipments of COVID tests for the federal government.
Its
arrival at Pearson coincided, and then collided, with the swift and
firm response of Western allies to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Within hours of offloading its pandemic procurement, Canada closed its airspace to all Russian aircraft.
That
left one of the world's biggest cargo planes stranded at Toronto's
busiest airport. Other Russian transport jets were also grounded in
Germany by similar actions.
Parking a plane this size at Pearson carries a hefty price tag, reportedly north of $1,000 US a day.
That
means the company may now owe the airport authority hundreds of
thousands of dollars. Does Volga-Dnepr have any incentive to pay the
bill for a plane it's about to forfeit?
It's also unclear
whether the aircraft remains airworthy. Massive jets big enough to
airlift Leopard tanks for the Canadian military aren't intended to sit
on the tarmac for months. It's not clear it is even legal to be paid
to conduct maintenance on a sanctioned asset.
This Anatov-124
— nicknamed the "T-Rex of heavy lift aviation" — takes 24 wheels
to support its weight. Having that sinking into in the same pavement for
months takes a toll on already-strained cargo infrastructure.
On
Monday, Deborah Flint, president and CEO of the Greater Toronto Airport
Authority, thanked Transport Minister Omar Alghabra for his "leadership
on this file" — without specifying exactly what will happen next. The
airport authority punted those questions back to the federal government.
Nevertheless,
Flint said, "this action will eventually allow us to begin using the
parking space currently occupied by the aircraft for operations."
"While
the asset is seized, Public Services and Procurement Canada will take
control of and manage the asset in accordance with that order," GAC
spokesperson Jason Kung said in response to questions from CBC News late
Sunday. "Public Services and Procurement Canada manages seized property
in accordance with federal regulations and disposes of it should the
courts declare forfeiture."
In its coverage of this announcement, Kremlin-friendly Russia Today referred to the plane as "stolen" by Canada.
"The
world is watching," Boscariol said. "Whenever you set a precedent like
this, there's going to be accusations that you're not doing something in
accordance with the international order."
"I
think they now need to be worried about Russia taking action against
Canadian investments within the territory of Russia" or making claims
under its bilateral investment treaty, he said.
"This won't be without consequence," he added.
"At
the same time, from the Canadian government's perspective, the optics
of the government acting to seize assets of major Russian corporations
in Canada is — they think, at least — very positive. I won't be
surprised to see more like this."
Janyce
McGregor joined the CBC's parliamentary bureau in 2001, after starting
her career with TVOntario's Studio 2. Her public broadcaster "hat trick"
includes casual stints as a news and current affairs producer with the
BBC's World Service in London. After two decades of producing roles,
she's now a senior reporter filing for CBC Online, Radio and Television.
News tips: Janyce.McGregor@cbc.ca
"Russophobia is a communicable disease. Russophobia is a paranoia that is manufactured to spread b..."
Marek Wisniewski
Patrick O’Connor
You are kidding me? Where is that happening?
David Amos
Reply to Marek Wisniewski
He is not kidding and its been happening everywhere since April 1st 2021
Patrick O’Connor
Reply to Marek Wisniewski
You are talking to a ghost.
David Amos
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
Some call me a ghost as well
Patrick O’Connor
Reply to David Amos
Battalion surrendered today.
We are ghost stories on many levels.
David Amos
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
Perhaps you should check my work?
Patrick O’Connor
Reply to David Amos
Where are your ghost stories? Are you watching the indictment or the surrender of a whole battalion?
David Amos
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Statement 83 would be a good place to start
David Amos
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
Then Google Barry Winters Edmonton
David McLeod
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
Everyone I know hates them because of this war !
Stan Brunswick
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
I think you confused, Putins Russia is what
allies and us have issues with, but you can playout your RT news
narrative here in free nation i guess
Oliver Tamm
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
I have few Russian friends, and none of them
support Putin, openly stated that, donate to Ukraine charities and have
no problems whatsoever in our society.
Stan Brunswick
Reply toPatrick O’Connor
actually that's 2 Russian battalions surrendered in last 24 hrs
Slava Ukraine
Patrick O’Connor
Reply to David Amos
We are a casualty of a plane full of parking tickets.
David Amos
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Reply toPatrick O’Connor
I am no casualty
Stacy Fields
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Geez let’s be real, Trudeau freezes his own citizens money, This is nothing
Blaire Bush
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Reply to Stacy Fields
Great point. He has it down to a science now
Will Morgan
Reply to Stacy Fields
Don't form a dangerous mob.
David Amos
Reply to Blaire Bush
Yup
Robert Hanks
Reply to Blaire Bush
Account still frozen?
Blaire Bush
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Reply to Will Morgan
I hope they never deem you in the wrong group.
Stacy Fields
Reply to Will Morgan
Do you consider the 70% of Canadians who voted against Trudeau a mob?
Blaire Bush
Reply to Robert Hanks
You would like that wouldnt you
Will Morgan
Reply to Blaire Bush
I'm not prone to violence or like being in a mob prone to that.
Will Morgan
Reply to Stacy Fields
70% of Canadians were in a mob had their bank accounts frozen? I missed that
Blaire Bush
Reply to Will Morgan
so you have no issue with Canadians having their funds frozen? Is that you Mao?
Will Morgan
Reply to Blaire Bush
It was people in a dangerous mob or supporting that.
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
Strange OPP and CSIS claimed they were not violent at all?
Will Morgan
Reply to David Schultz
All discussed at the inquiry. Violence prone mob, a danger to public safety.
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
I watched the entire thing, no one said that
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
In fact the OPP chief said violent crime went DOWN during the convoy
Michael Winiarz
Reply to Will Morgan
So sad that these Charade Parade supporters still can get over it.
Blaire Bush
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Reply to Will Morgan
the pile of bodies at the protest was
incredible. The violent carnage was like watching the opening scene of
saving priavte ryan. I know because i watched the cbcnews
Lol, we won I dunno what you are talking about, all COVID restrictions were ended by the convoy - facts.
Will Morgan
Reply to David Schultz
The mob was dangerous, the EA cleared them out, the inquiry conclusion said it was necessary.
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
CSIS specifically said that it didn't meet the threshold
to invoke the EA. They did it anyways. When the time came to vote on it
in the HoC as required by law, they conveniently dropped the EA instead
of having a vote.
It wasn't justified just look at the evidence lol.
Brad Smith
Reply to Will Morgan
......... and pigs fly.
Will Morgan
Reply to Blaire Bush
Never happened, the EA cleared the mob out before that.
Robert Hanks
Reply to David Schultz
Magical thinking, but do bang on.
Robert Hanks
Reply to David Schultz
David Schultz
Reply to Robert Hanks
Hmm yeah sure mate, in your mind only.
No I think the CBC link I provided that proves
CSIS told the gov the threshold for the EA wasn't met and the fact that
they ended the EA right before the vote says enough for the educated
voter. I can stop here.
Rick Vanguard
Reply to Blaire Bush
The Ottawa occupiers should pay reparations
Will Morgan
Reply to David Schultz
The inquiry, evidence and commissioner a refuted that .
Will Morgan
Reply to David Schultz
Even Poilievre won't bring the topic up after the inquiry evidence.
Bruna Santoro
Reply to Rick Vanguard
For what?
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
Sorry, your oppressive COVID restrictions are gone and aren't coming back dude
Will Morgan
Reply to David Schultz
Yes, the vaccines and other health measures were effective.
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
Right up until about Jan 22, 2022 huh strange that all restrictions nation wide were gone like two to three weeks later.
Will Morgan
Reply to David Schultz
Poilievre distanced himself once those involved in the "convoy" testified. Hard to argue Trudeau wasn't right after that.
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
We won so hard man
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
It was literally the happiest three weeks of my life
David Schultz
Reply to Will Morgan
I don't care about PP at ALL - he tried to ride
the coat tails - I care about personal freedoms and respect for all
Canadians. That's what I got back during those couple weeks.
Rick Vanguard
Reply to David Schultz
"We won so hard", an interesting way to
characterize a minor derisory inconsequential footnote of foolishness.
Fortunately the vast majority of Canadians along with all levels of
government pursued intelligent covid mitigation policies that allowed us
to have the second lowest rate of covid mortality in the G7.
David Amos
Reply to Will Morgan
"Yes, the vaccines and other health measures were effective."
That included seizing the aircraft that brought some of that precious stuff to you?
David Schultz
Reply to Rick Vanguard
We literally celebrated in the streets. Hugs all around
after the giant victory for freedom. Best day of my life - such a big
win we were all so happy we beat the government.
Rick Vanguard
Reply to David Schultz
It appears that your memory of events is impaired, based on your symptoms you may consider being checked for long covid.
David Amos
Reply to Rick Vanguard
Deja Vu?
Canada's Russia sanctions are hitting people with no connection to Putin's war
Canadian residents are pleading with Ottawa to release assets frozen after sanctions were imposed on banks
Janyce McGregor · CBC News · Posted: Feb 06, 2023 5:00 AM AST
Claire Ross
Lol.
The "world" is not watching Canada do anything.
How silly
Rob Hewko
Reply to Claire Ross
Here we are, the second largest country on the
globe, with a gdp larger than Russia's, and nobody notices us at all.
Are we geniuses or what?
David Amos
Reply to Claire Ross
Think again
Methinks they enjoy how silly our politicians are Everybody loves a circus N'esy Pas?
James Baldwin
Reply to Claire Ross
How silly to focus on a headline.
Jeff MacDonald
Reply to Claire Ross
I suppose so since assets have already been
seized by other nations. This is the first of these big planes though,
so perhaps more newsworthy.
Will Morgan
Reply to Claire Ross
Why would not countries who place or are subject sanctions not be watching
David Amos
John W. Boscariol is head of the firm’s International Trade &
Investment Law Group and a partner in our Litigation Group. He helps
clients understand how international trade agreements and foreign
investment laws impact their business. John assists clients through the
tangle of regulatory impediments faced by Canadian companies seeking to
expand their business globally, and to international businesses entering
the Canadian market.
Rob Hewko
Reply to David Amos
His Mom must be very proud.
David Amos
Reply to Rob Hewko
Of that I have no doubt
Rick Vanguard
A symbolic announcement during a supportive
visit to Ukraine and axe grinders are ostensibly and timorously
concerned regarding the legality of this measure plus the possible
consequences of taking a stand against a rogue state which has cost
thousands of lives by invading their neighbour. As a middle power, do we
believe that Canada announced this without consulting allies? Jan
2023: In total, Western allies have sanctioned more than 1,200 Russian
individuals, more than 120 entities, and 19 banks since Russia invaded
Ukraine. That equals assets of roughly 940 billion pounds (U.S. $1.14
trillion). May 11: The US has for the first time transferred seized
assets from a sanctions-hit Russian oligarch to send to Ukraine for the
reconstruction of the war-ravaged country. Fret not Putin apologists,
we have plenty of company the U.S., UK, the EU and others who are moving
toward liquidating Russian assets to provide financial support for
Ukraine. Personally I would prefer having the Russians pay for
Ukrainian reconstruction than us. It might create an incentive for the
oligarchs to off load their leader.
Blaire Bush
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Reply to Rick Vanguard
so you will send your money to the Taliban to reconstruct Afghanistan i take it. Canadian occupiers need to pay
Rob Hewko
Reply to Blaire Bush
You support the Taliban?
Rick Vanguard
Reply to Blaire Bush
Reread the post, I believe it has something to do with Russian reparations to Ukraine
David Amos
Reply to Rick Vanguard
Perhaps you should ask the lawyer whose info I posted above?
Frank Brace
Reply to Blaire Bush
Your support of Russia is not welcome
Blaire Bush
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Reply to Frank Brace
I support a peace deal thanks
Frank Brace
Reply to Blaire Bush
There is no deal to be had . Russia leaves that requires no deal
Blaire Bush
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Reply to Frank Brace
of course there is no deal, there is none being put forward, just more arms and money to extend it
Olga Tkatcheva
Reply to Blaire Bush
You support Ukraine lose and Russia win, and gets away with the war crimes. It is not working, no one buying.
Juan Torranso
Acts like this don't benefit Canada. I wonder
if DPM Freeland being of Ukrainian background has something to do with
this poorly thought move.
David Amos
Reply to Juan Torranso
Of course
Peter Hill
Reply to Juan Torranso
Of course it benefits Canada. Way too many people here defending Russia.
Rob Mitchell
Reply to Peter Hill
criticizing our government is not defending Russia
Peter Hill
Reply to Rob Mitchell
Defending Russia is defending Russia and there’s way too much of it going on here.
David Amos
Reply to Rob Mitchell
Ditto
Johnathon Smith
Maybe we should just stay out of it and not provoke more aggression?
Erin Morriston
Reply to Johnathon Smith
Agreed. Surely they will stop at Poland. And if not, the Rhine.
David Amos
Reply to Johnathon Smith
Amen
David Amos
Reply to Johnathon Smith
Apparently our government wants to forget why that plane came here in the first place
Craig McMaster
Reply to Johnathon Smith
Ya - why would Canada want to stand together with their allies?
Craig McMaster
Reply to Johnathon Smith
We should all be supporting these elite globalist Russian oligarchs over our own Government... right!?
Let's protest for the rights of these elite globalist
Russian oligarchs that support Putin and the war in Ukraine instead of
our own country and our allies in Ukraine because this situation is just
so "aggressive"...
Alfred Frey
Usually to get something for nothing like that you need to be a televangelist
B Cluett
Reply to Alfred Frey
Especially private jets, they love those for the ministry's work.
Paul Donor
Reply to Alfred Frey
they will have to pay to scrap it, they can't drive that thing down the 401 to remove it from the airport
David Amos
Reply to Alfred Frey
Many a true word is said in jest
Bob Hunter
Well, lets be honest. The sanctions haven't worked so far.
B Cluett
Reply to Bob Hunter
"honestly" we wouldn't see that for years cause
that's the speed of a countries coffers bleeding dry. It's not like
they are going to make announcements telling us.
janic Lander
Reply to Bob Hunter
"honest" ?? then don't say the sanctions haven't worked...russians are hurting
Bob Hunter
Reply to janic Lander
Hurting? Ask the Ukrainians who have had their homes destroyed, infrastructure ruined , or lost their lives.
janic Lander
Reply to Bob Hunter
absolutely not disputing the pain of Ukraine
nor equating it with whatever russians are going through. However, life
russia is not rosy as many would have us believe...i.e. that trite line
that the sanctions haven't worked when evidence is that they have....
Bob Hunter
Reply to janic Lander
Trite -- is believing the sanctions have had any measurable impact on the Russian lives.
Paul Squires
Reply to Bob Hunter
and you 'know' they haven't?
Bob Hunter
Reply to Paul Squires
Yes I do because many reports have said so.
David Amos
Reply to Bob Hunter
Well put
Ricky Tarr
cut it apart and melt it.
or set it on fire and let the firemen train on it.
Tari Akpodiete
Reply to Ricky Tarr
great idea, actually. stellar!
but it's fire fighters these days.
David Amos
Reply to Ricky Tarr
What planet are you from?
Dave Howe
Just load it up with some B83's and send it back to Moscow in good fate.
David Amos
Reply to Dave Howe
Is that your idea of witty?
John Collins
Seize is a nice word for theft/ piracy
Erin Morriston
Reply to John Collins
Has Russia been paying their parking fees?
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
Why would they if they fly it out
steve brace
Reply to John Collins
I'll be sure to use that argument if the law ever "seizes" anything from me.
We shall see if that makes a difference.
John Collins
Reply to steve brace
Use theft by govt then
David Amos
Reply to John Collins
Its embarrassing to be a Canadian these days
John Collins
Reply to David Amos
It has… It has lost its honour.
Craig McMaster
Reply to John Collins
So - when police "seize" the assets of a known criminal they're really "stealing" them?
John Collins
Reply to Craig McMaster
In this case yes
Craig McMaster
Reply to John Collins
Sanctions without enforcement aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
John Collins
Reply to Craig McMaster
Sanctions means not doing business with them, not ‘seizing’ property.
Besides, who gave Canada the right to ‘seize’ other peoples’ property? Imagine Russia seizing Kinross….
Craig McMaster
Reply to John Collins
Russia does seize assets of "enemies" who have been sanctioned.
Why do you think elite globalist Russian oligarchs that
support Putin and the war in Ukraine should be immune for their actions?
John Collins
Reply to Craig McMaster
Western oligarch support Ukraine . So? It’s national loyalty. Would you not expect Canadians to support Canadians ?
Erin Morriston
Reply to John Collins
It's up to them to fly it out
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
It is but Canada grounded it and wouldn’t let it leave
Erin Morriston
Reply to John Collins
Russia should probably comply with the laws of countries that it brings its assets into
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
Theft is a law
Erin Morriston
Reply to John Collins
No i believe this is seizure for unpaid parking dues
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
It is because Canada grounded it when it
imposed sanctions on Russian airlines. So, I’m truth, grounding the
plane and expecting parking dues to be paid sound something like exto rt
ion
Erin Morriston
Reply to John Collins
That's crazy talk.
Russia should just have complied and stopped it's war. This is just a special parking enforcement operation.
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
Why should it? Canada doesn’t have the authority to make and impose laws on non Canadians.
Why don’t JT tell his SNC to leave Russia? Magna as well
Erin Morriston
Reply to John Collins
believe it or not, but canada does have the
authority to make and impose laws on non-canadians and their assets, and
those laws are enforceable in Canada.
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
Not only that, why are we still reading with Russia. Trade to the time of about 170 million in 2022
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
No it doesn’t. Canada isn’t the international law. It’s theft.
Maybe Russia is ill retaliate and seize Canadian assets
in Russia. I presume Russia has the same rights and Canada won’t
complain about it because it’s legal
Erin Morriston
Reply to John Collins
Not a fan of the Magnitsky Act and it's various versions passed around the world, are you?
John Collins
Reply to Erin Morriston
No I’m not. And it’s still theft.
Ricky Wendel
Reply to John Collins
So is the land you squat on.
But crickets to your own hypocrisy.
John Collins
Reply to Ricky Wendel
I’m in hypocritical Canada. Do as I say, not as I do nation.
Ricky Wendel
Reply to John Collins
Not my experience.
But I’m not a soft pillow.
John Collins
Reply to Ricky Wendel
Maybe Russia will shoot it down once it enters Ukraine airspace
Ricky Wendel
Reply to John Collins
So does the crow that flies backwards.
John Collins
Reply to Ricky Wendel
Missile will suffice.
David Amos
Reply to Ricky Wendel
You should know all about that
David Amos
Reply to John Collins
I repeat Its embarrassing to be a Canadian these days
John Collins
Reply to David Amos
It certainly is embarrassing. It’s very sad low Canadians have become over the past 6-8 yrs
David Amos
Reply to John Collins
Google Fundy Royal Debate
John Collins
Reply to David Amos
I just did. What am I looking for in particular? There the MP for the riding and a few you tube vids
David Amos
Reply to John Collins
My debate in 2015 in Rogers at the 30 minute mark I say something rather important
David Amos
Reply to John Collins
I had filed this lawsuit at the same point in time
Federal Court File No T- 1557-15
Scroll down to statement 83
Ricky Wendel
Reply to John Collins
Does your missile still chug along or is it limp?
I’ll make it work backwards.
Ricky Wendel
Reply to David Amos
I should know? I DO know all about it/that.
Being stuck in Livingstons Cove NS perfects such beasts.
David Amos
Reply to Ricky Wendel
Then you must know exactly who I am correct?
David Amos
Reply to Ricky Wendel
Do you recall Annie Mae Aquash?
Ricky Wendel
Reply to David Amos
I do ;)
Ricky Wendel
Reply to David Amos
I recall the Novaks.
Ricky Wendel
Reply to David Amos
Did she live on Marsh rd along with the Novaks?
You do know me right…?!
Stuart Katz
Content Deactivated "Great call (as usual) Justin. Perhaps diplomacy would serve the situation better that your poor atte..."
Larry McCarthy
Reply to Stuart Katz
Putin whispering in your ear?
Stuart Katz
Reply to Larry McCarthy
Yes Larry he and I are best friends.
Larry McCarthy
Reply to Stuart Katz
Your posts confirm it!
Stuart Katz
Reply to Larry McCarthy
Bravo champ you cracked the case
David Amos
Reply to Stuart Katz
Too Too Funny
Al Millar
I just hope that Canada doesn't have anything of value in Russia friendly countries .
Tari Akpodiete
Reply to Al Millar
not just property, but also people!
David Amos
Reply to Al Millar
Methinks Trudeau's dealings with China would have taught him to mind his own business N'esy Pas?
Andrew Francham
Excellent. One can only hope that at some point
either Vlad's oligarchs, his generals, or the Wagner Group will assist
in his early retirement to a quiet, remote dacha on the Black Sea, or in
it.
David Amos
Reply to Andrew Francham
Why are you permitted to post such a thing?
Paul Donor
I saw that plane or one like it in Toronto 2 or
3 weeks ago. When did this actually happen? From what I remember, if
you watch the documentary about that company isn't actually owned by a
bunch of fairly poor employees who bought the company when it was in
trouble.
Paul Donor
David Amos
Reply to Paul Donor
Now thats interesting
Elena Pezzutto
I don't believe it's particularly wise, or
legal, to steal privately owned property simply because the individual
is Russian. Is this how low Canada has now become?
Stuart Katz
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
under trudeaus regime, nothing should surprise anyone as to how low they will go
Carrie Fhiser
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
lol pretty sure politicians do what they want
Oksana Szulhan
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
There are no privately owned businesses in
russia; putin allows the shell company to operate if they give
kickbacks. So, everything is owned by the kremlin.
Craig McMaster
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
It's not theft. The company that owns the plane knew of the sanctions. Canada's enforcing them.
Craig McMaster
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
Canada is seizing the property of an enemy and giving it to an ally...
Yup - that's pretty low.
David Amos
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
I expect worse before this regime is given the boot out of public office
David Schultz
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
Everything we dont like we take. Bank accounts, planes, assets. Steal steal steal go Canada!
Mara Bontrager
Reply to Oksana Szulhan
Talking about shell companies....
Ricky Wendel
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
Now go get your rations!
Ricky Wendel
Reply to David Schultz
Started with the land you’re squatting on. Make the first move and leave.
Michael Davis
Reply to David Schultz
still bitter over getting your wrist slapped for that donation to freedumb convoy?
Stefania Ruffalo
Reply to Oksana Szulhan A quick scan shows at least 117 privately owned companies in Russia. By why waste a good fib when you're in need of approval?
Stefania Ruffalo
Reply to Craig McMaster
No kidding you'll make excuses for JT's unethical behaviour.
David Schultz
Reply to Ricky Wendel
I got a job offer in Texas, 3 times the pay and
10% in fed tax that's it effectively a 300% raise I cant leave fast
enough plus I can keep all my firearms.
Jack Bell
Reply to David Schultz
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
David Schultz
Reply to Jack Bell
I wont there is a rather large group of us leaving I'm sure one of them will hold the door
Byron Melchford
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
And it was wise and legal for Putin to invade Ukraine and shell civilians for the past year?
No comment on that, just criticism of Canada....
Deary me, you people have lost the plot..
Ricky Wendel
Reply to David Schultz
Good riddance. Enjoy Texas! You won’t be missed.
Oksana Szulhan
Reply to Stefania Ruffalo
Nonsense; everything in russia is state-owned.
Mike Dowden
Reply to David Schultz
Look at you telling stories! Got another one? That last sounded too much like something made up. No good story sounds made up.
Mike Dowden
Reply to Elena Pezzutto
First off, 'Elena', there is a legal process to
be followed that (by definition) means it is not stealing. Secondly, we
are not confiscating the plane "simply because the individual is
Russian". We are confiscating it because the individual is supporting a
criminal regime that uses bombs to purposely destroy residential homes.
Confiscating material from terrorists has been long established in
international courts. Tired of carrying water for terrorists yet?
The flag flies outside the Embassy of the Russian Federation to Canada in Ottawa on Monday, March 26, 2018. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)
Moscow
is warning that relations with Canada are "on the verge of being
severed" after the federal Liberal government moved to forfeit a massive
Russian cargo plane.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visited
Ukraine on the weekend, where he announced that Canada officially seized
an airplane that had been sitting on the tarmac at Toronto's Pearson
International Airport since February 2022.
"We perceive this act
as cynical and shameless theft," Russia's foreign ministry said in an
English-language statement posted Tuesday.
A year ago, Canada
became the first G7 country to enact a law that allows Ottawa to not
just seize assets held by sanctioned people, but to forfeit the money
and have it diverted to victims of a sanctioned regime.
The
law remains unused but Trudeau said Ottawa plans to begin a process to
either transfer the plane to Ukraine or sell it for money that would
support the country's recovery.
"We're going to do it as quickly
as possible, but I can tell you the Ukrainians are very pleased that the
path has started," Trudeau said Saturday.
The Russian-registered
Antonov AN-124 is owned by the firm Volga-Dneper, which Canada
sanctioned in April. It is one of the largest aircraft in the world and
Ottawa fears Russia could use it to deliver military supplies for its
war on Ukraine.
The government officially seized the aircraft through a June 8 cabinet order.
An Antonov-124 cargo plane owned by Volga Dnepr is pictured on the Tarmac at Pearson airport, in Toronto, on June 13, 2023. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)
"I
think there was pressure on the government to do something about
it because effectively it couldn't be moved, because Russian aircraft
are prohibited from Canadian airspace," said William Pellerin, an
Ottawa-based trade lawyer with the firm McMillan LLP.
He said the
owners can launch a court challenge of the seizure up until the time
Ottawa files a formal court application to forfeit the asset. At that
point, the firm would receive written notice and have a chance to
challenge the application.
"It's fair to say that this opens us up
to reprisals. I think it's well-known that the government of Russia has
sanctioned a number of Canadians," said Pellerin.
Moscow said it
is prepared to retaliate over "stolen Russian property." It noted the
plane landed in Toronto in order to deliver COVID-19 testing kits.
"The
Russian side warns that the practical implementation of this decision
will entail the most serious repercussions for Russian-Canadian
relations, which are already on the verge of being severed," the
ministry wrote.
"We reserve the right to retaliate in line with the reciprocity principle."
Moscow
and Ottawa have summoned each other's ambassadors numerous times, with
Canada arguing Russia is committing war crimes and spewing homophobic
rhetoric on social media. The Kremlin, meanwhile, says Canada isn't
adequately protecting its Ottawa embassy.
"It's not surprising
that Russia is taking this retaliatory stance," said Pellerin, who
advises Canadian and international firms, but not Russian firms, on
navigating the sanctions regime.
"Canada's approach to seizure and
forfeiture is the first of its kind globally. It is certainly the case
that Russia would be deeply concerned if other countries followed
Canada's approach."
Ottawa has yet to follow through on a promise six months ago to try
seizing funds it says are held by Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich. (Getty Images)
Meanwhile,
Ottawa has yet to follow through on a promise six months ago to try
seizing funds it says are held by Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich. No
application had been filed in any provincial court as of last month.
A
Senate report last month warned that the legislation could put Canadian
companies abroad at risk and could undermine the rule of law if the
provisions aren't enforced through due process.
"The government of
Canada should proceed prudently with respect to any forfeiture
process," the report argued, adding that working in lockstep with allies
could "mitigate any unintended consequences."
A Senate report last month warned that the legislation
could put Canadian companies abroad at risk and could undermine the rule
of law if the provisions aren't enforced through due process.
Elliott Stranger
Reply to David Amos
What you said is word for word the last sentence in the article.
David Amos
Reply to Elliott Stranger
It was worth repeating
Peter Hill
Reply to David Amos
That’s why they’re going through due process
David Amos
Reply to Peter Hill
Have you studied law???
Peter Hill
Reply to David Amos
No, the lawyers are doing that. This article is about the due process they are going through.
David Amos
Reply to Peter Hill
Have your lawyer explain to you Rule 55 of the Federal Court Act
Peter Hill
Reply to David Amos
Where is your law degree from, trump university?
David Amos
Reply to Peter Hill
The School of Hard Knocks
Rule 55 In special circumstances, in a proceeding, the
Court may vary a rule or dispense with compliance with a rule.
SOR/2004-283, s. 11.
Ukrainian
Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal, seen here meeting Justin Trudeau during
the Canadian prime minister's surprise visit to Kyiv Saturday, scooped
the Canadian government by revealing on Facebook that Canada would seize
a Russian cargo plane two months before the federal cabinet actually
issued its order to do so. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press)
Prime
Minister Justin Trudeau and Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland
paid tribute to fallen soldiers at Ukraine's Wall of Remembrance in Kyiv
Saturday. Trudeau's government has pledged to use the proceeds from
selling off Russian assets in Canada to help fund Ukraine's
reconstruction. (Valentyn Ogirenko/Pool via Associated Press)
An Antonov-124 cargo plane owned by Volga Dnepr is pictured on the Tarmac at Pearson airport, in Toronto, on June 13, 2023. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)
Ottawa has yet to follow through on a promise six months ago to try
seizing funds it says are held by Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich. (Getty Images)
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