Thursday, 25 July 2024

St. Thomas, Ont., man vows to fight 'frivolous' $615 ticket issued by CN Police Service

 

St. Thomas, Ont., man vows to fight 'frivolous' $615 ticket issued by CN Police Service

No signage beside tracks to indicate railway property, police say trespassing fines could go up to $50K

A St. Thomas, Ont., man vows to fight a $615 ticket issued by the CN Police Service after he rode his bike onto an open gravel area beside railway tracks, a spot where there's no sign indicating it's Canadian National property.

"I was in shock," said John Van Duynhoven, 71, about the moment he was issued the ticket. "I do plan to fight this." 

Van Duynhoven and his wife, Helene, went for a bike ride on Saturday afternoon along St. Catharine Street, a residential street that runs north of Talbot Street in downtown St. Thomas. The north end of the street widens out into a gravel area about 50 metres south of the train tracks. 

Van Duynhoven, who grew up in St. Thomas, admits to entering the gravel area, which maps show is a place where St. Catharine Street connects with Hiawatha Street. 

Van Duynhoven said he and his wife rode their bikes over the gravel area, coming no closer than two metres from the railway tracks. He grew up in the area but hadn't been there for years. He wanted to show his wife the spot where a number of track-side businesses once stood when the railways, which give St. Thomas its Railway City nickname, were the town's economic lifeblood. 

"We just came by on a whim," he told CBC News. "We were on a bicycle ride and I wanted to see the changes."

No signs to indicate railway property

This map shows where Van Duynhoven was when he was spotted by a CN officer and where, moments later, he was issued a $615 ticket.This map shows where Van Duynhoven was when he was spotted by a CN officer and where, moments later, he was issued a $615 ticket. (CBC News)

Moments later, the couple was walking south on St. Catharine Street, travelling away from the tracks, when he saw a police vehicle. The officer got out of the vehicle and approached him. 

"He said I was trespassing on CN property and he wanted my ID," said Van Duynhoven. "I followed his instructions. He pulled out his ticket book and prepared to give me a ticket. I said, 'Is this real? Are you kidding me?' Because we really didn't do any harm." 

Van Duynhoven was particularly staggered by the $615 figure on the ticket. He said the officer refused to let him off with a warning. Although she was beside him when the police spotted John, Helene wasn't ticketed.

Fine falls under Railway Safety Act

Van Duynhoven sent CBC News a copy of his ticket. The charge falls under Sect. 26.1 of the federal Railway Safety Act. 

That law, which you can read here, says "no person shall, without lawful excuse, enter on land on which a line work is situated." 

CN has a small yard on that section of tracks, but Van Duynhoven said he saw no railway workers anywhere near the area.

On Monday, he contacted the CN Police Service, hoping it would agree to nix the ticket to avoid a costly and protracted court challenge. He was told any incursion onto CN property is considered trespassing, regardless of whether there's a sign or fence to indicate it's railway property.

 This spot, where the pavement ends at the north end of St.Catharine Street is about 50 metres south of the tracks.This spot where the pavement ends at the north end of St. Catharine Street is about 50 metres south of the CN tracks. (Andrew Lupton/CBC)

CN responded late Wednesday to a request by CBC for comment with an email that didn't mention Van Duynhoven.

The statement from spokesperson Michelle Hannan said, "Enforcement happens on an ongoing basis and CN police works closely with neighbouring communities to ensure everyone is aware of the dangers of trespassing on CN property and infrastructure."

"When CN police are on patrol and see unsafe behaviour, it is their duty to communicate to community members the dangers of trespassing and this is done through enforcement, education, engineering and engagement activities."

The email also gave a list of safety tips, including to keep off railway property or risk being fined up to $50,000.

Although Van Duynhoven was spared tens of thousands of dollars more in fines, he said he's sharing his story to make others aware they can be ticketed for being in areas close to the tracks, even with no visible signs or fences. 

Meanwhile, he has already started the court process of fighting the ticket, hoping it'll be dismissed. 

"Why tie up valuable court time with something as frivolous as this?" Van Duynhoven said. "Hopefully someone has some common sense within the legal system. If I had seen a sign, I wouldn't have been there." 

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416 Comments
 
 
David Amos 

I bet Madame Hannan is a nervous camper
 
 
 
David Amos 

I believe Van Duynhoven is a stakeholder in CN byway of our CPP  
 
David Amos 

Reply to David Amos   
Hence our investment helps to pay the private cop's salary Correct?

 

Jack Whitehead 
Do something wrong. Run to the network. Doesn't matter why you were there, you're not supposed to be.  
 
Ralph Steinberg
Reply to Jack Whitehead
And how was he, or anyone else to know that was CN property etc? As kids, we used to play by the tracks near the Don River..........no one ever got hurt, nor did any damage etc to the tracks, we even had a Tarzan swing with a tire on it. You have to ask also, why he only ticketed him.
 
Jimmy Vee   
Reply to Ralph Steinberg 
I used to cut across them on my way to high school, there were signs and a hole in the fence. The Fence was repaired a few times but somehow someone always had wire cutters handy. 10-minute time saved was needed frequently. 
 
David Amos

Reply to Ralph Steinberg
I can tell a lot of stories about playing on the tracks  
 
Jack Whitehead
Reply to Ralph Steinberg 
He got caught.
 
Jack Whitehead
Reply to Ralph Steinberg 
Next to the train track is first clue.
 
Pablo Cartier
Reply to Jack Whitehead 
It’s public property within a couple meters of the tracks in many areas of my municipality. Being next to track in its self does not meet the standard. A typical person is not going to know one way or the other if there is a lack of signage or fencing.
 
 
 
Kate Young
"If I had seen a sign, I wouldn't have been there."

Seriously? You were a scant few metres from the tracks, of course you're on their property. The only one wasting court time is him with his victim nonsense. Just pay it and take it as a lesson learned. How are people, supposed grown adults, not embarrassed to run to the media for stuff like this.

David Amos

Reply to Kate Young
I find this entertaining  
 
Ron K
Reply to Kate Young 
"Although Van Duynhoven was spared tens of thousands of dollars more in fines, he said he's sharing his story to make others aware they can be ticketed for being in areas close to the tracks, even with no visible signs or fences." I suppose he figures he's being helpful to others who don't know as spelled out in the article.  
 
Rick Kirk
Reply to Kate Young 
Equal treatment for equal infractions.

May the fickled finger of fate have you ticketed everytime you roll through a stop and fail to use you turn signal when changing lanes.

Ralph Steinberg
Reply to Kate Young
See John Z's post above, CN does not even follow their own protocol.

Your projection of "embarrassed" tells all, more about you .......

 
 
Jimmy Vee 
If only regular enforcement of whatever in Canada was so stringent, I'm sure a lot more people would respect the rules of society and good government.
 
Ron K 
Reply to Jimmy Vee
Where is this good government you mention?  
 
David Amos
Reply to Ron K  
Good question 
 
Jimmy Vee 
Reply to David Amos 
Canada has good government relative to other countries nearby. As Canadians we are very critical of our government, yet most of that criticism is based on government services provided to some for which we do not benefit directly, so we feel that those activities are wasteful. Not really the truth but they do make for good headlines and public discourse.  
 
Jimmy Vee
Reply to Jimmy Vee
Oops need to go clamming now the tide is almost right, steamers and maybe a few cherry stones and razors.
 
David Amos
 
Reply to Jimmy Vee
Your good government caused me to sue it
 
 
 
Umberto Pazzo
"He wanted to show his wife the spot where a number of track-side businesses once stood when the railways, which give St. Thomas its Railway City nickname, were the town's economic lifeblood."

Incidentally, St. Thomas is where Jumbo the Elephant was struck by a train in 1885.

David Amos
Reply to Umberto Pazzo
Alas poor Jumbo P. T. Barnum knew him well  
 
Roosevelt Smith
Reply to Umberto Pazzo
that is so sad and not unexpected for St Thomas ;)

 

 

 

 

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