This is a true record of the comments I made within CBC during the last day of the election in Ontario. Folks should compare the Crown Corp's records to mine
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-ontario-election-polls-1.4693795
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/green-party-mike-schreiner-election-guelph-win-in-reach-1.4694216
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-election-day-voting-2018-1.4693935
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-election-ontario-1.4696565
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-ontario-election-results-1.4697447
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-ontario-election-results-1.4697447
Doug Ford promised to deliver the GTA for the Ontario PCs and that's what he did
PCs made gains in the GTA, limiting the NDP's growth in the decisive battleground
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William Davis
Wooohooo... One down... One to go... 2019 we get the Nation back... bye bye Liberals
David Amos
@William Davis Methinks
everybody knows I have been dicing with Harper 2.0 and his cohorts long
before he was elected the latest federal Conservative leader. In fact
it was before the last writ was dropped in 2015 N'esy Pas?
Justin Smith
Malcolm Alexander
David Amos
Ken Simpson
Nelson Barley
mike white
David Amos
Paul Miodowski
Jack Baker
Jack Adam
Peter Parker
David Amos
Justin Smith
Its nice to see Doug win, and
so many people willing to give him a chance. Heck, its better than
being under the Liberals for another 4 years, or NDP who created a mess
in Ontario all those years ago. As for his policies, I can't wait till
he challenges Trudeau on the carbon tax policy. Saskatchewan now has a
strong ally in Ontario, with Alberta soon to follow. It speaks volumes
that the largest province in the country just elected a Conservative
majority, and the Liberal party, just lost official party status for the
first time ever. Say goodbye to the federal Liberals in 2019.
Jon Taffer
@Justin Smith If it will make conservatives stop their whining I'm all for it.
David Amos
@Jon Taffer Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Malcolm Alexander
Delivered?
With the feelings against the sitting government, a donkey could have won the same votes.
People are smart, didn't you know that?
With the feelings against the sitting government, a donkey could have won the same votes.
People are smart, didn't you know that?
@Malcolm Alexander I agree
Ken Simpson
The air smell better today for some reason.
David Amos
@Ken Simpson Methinks it may be just wishful thinking draining through your nose N'esy Pas?
Nelson Barley
Over at Hydro One, Schmidt is rubbing his hands together in anticipation of that fat $11 million severance package.
David Amos
@Nelson Barley Methinks Schmidt may be a worried man perhaps he will settle for less N'esy Pas?
mike white
trading the liberal tour bus for a mini van that the entire party can travel in haha
Dax Randall
@mike white
LOL. Purchased from Jean Charest.
LOL. Purchased from Jean Charest.
David Amos
@Dax Randall Methinks somebody should have searched the title first N'esy Pas?
Bill Clay
Bill Clay
Wynne promised to be different than McGuinty. True to her word, she was even worse.
Jamie Taylor
@Dax Randall
Most do... sometimes not their fault.
The biggest affront to democracy today is the notion that we can have non-human Canadian Citizens called Corporations.
By recognizing these monstrosities as legal entities unto themselves is what gives them the rights and the over-reaching powers to lobby governments to do their bidding.
Most do... sometimes not their fault.
The biggest affront to democracy today is the notion that we can have non-human Canadian Citizens called Corporations.
By recognizing these monstrosities as legal entities unto themselves is what gives them the rights and the over-reaching powers to lobby governments to do their bidding.
@Jamie Taylor True
Paul Miodowski
Code Red at the CBC HQ this morning...better find some new Liberal propaganda or Sock Boy is next~!
David Amos
@Paul Miodowski Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
Jack Baker
Ontario dodged a bullet thats
for sure their must be plenty of lef tists crying and screaming in the
air nonsensically. LOL they will never learn those loonys.
Krell Rell
@Jack Baker
Empty things make a lot of noise.
Empty things make a lot of noise.
David Amos
@Krell Rell Methinks some old Korean wiseguy said that about empty wagons N'esy Pas?
Jack Adam
With absolutely no plan. God help us.
Hey buddy, I want to fix your house.
Ok, whats your plan.
Well listen folks, I'll respect you.
How much will this cost?
No idea, but I'll respect your finances.
Okay, sounds good to me.
Hey buddy, I want to fix your house.
Ok, whats your plan.
Well listen folks, I'll respect you.
How much will this cost?
No idea, but I'll respect your finances.
Okay, sounds good to me.
@Jamie Tong - Well, Obama couldn't be re-elected.
So your thoughts were to keep Wynne in?
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein.
So your thoughts were to keep Wynne in?
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein.
@Peter Parker True
Buford Wilson
This portends a glorious victory for Andrew next year.
Jon Holmes
@Buford Wilson It very well
may. Sadly, but it very well may. Apparently the desire to return to the
60's is too much for aging N Americans across the Country.
David Amos
@Buford Wilson Methinks all the left wingnuts will be crying a river for the next couple of years N'esy Pas?
Jon Taffer
@David Amos Doug won because Ontarians wanted Kathleen out. This has nothing to do with 'right' and 'left'.
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David Amos
@Jon Taffer Methinks you should review all the comments of mine that CBC deleted over the past few days N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Jon Taffer Methinks its rather hard to respond when one is blocked N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-election-ontario-1.4696565
'Magic' of simple message, simple strategy led to Ford victory
PCs benefited from a voting public tired of Liberals, still skeptical of NDP
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Daryl McBride
It’s only a land slide when the left does it.
David Amos
@Tim Klassen "True, but we know how the CBC is. "
Methinks you know as well as I why so many of our comments went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Methinks you know as well as I why so many of our comments went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Scott Brown "Typical CBC's double standards and biased coverage."
Methinks there should be no need for me to preach to the choir N'esy Pas?
Methinks there should be no need for me to preach to the choir N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Neil Turv "I've heard that
alienation claims dozens of times from commenters here who have an
extremely low opinion of Harper and whose objectivity on the subject is
questionable."
Methinks you should do a tally of how many of your comments over the past day or so have evaporated along with mine N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should do a tally of how many of your comments over the past day or so have evaporated along with mine N'esy Pas?
Johnny Franklin
So once again the leftist
pollsters were just spamming the "close race" nonsense. Now we will
have to endure the constant media sniping at Ford at every turn.
David Amos
@Johnny Franklin Methinks
that is to be expected the left wingnuts have federal election next year
that has been dealt a mortal blow to their side of the fence N'esy Pas?
Brittany Schultz
CBCs identity politics crashed miserably. Canadians are waking up the way Americans did in 2016.
David Amos
@Brittany Schultz YUP
Greg Gore (formerly Greggore)
7 seats! Woot woot! They won't be allowed to even talk in the house! Love it.
Remember this one libs! Don't ever try your social behaviourism ever again!
Remember this one libs! Don't ever try your social behaviourism ever again!
David Amos
@Greg Gore (formerly
Greggore) Methinks they must be allowed to speak on occasion However the
best part to me is that Wynne may have resigned as leader but she
promised not to quit representing the folks in her riding if she were
reelected I bet she is hoping to lose the recount N'esy Pas?
Gord McPherson
"Ford said he would cut
taxes, cut the price of gas, cut hydro rates, cut the price of beer and
eliminate the deficit while spending billions on transit and
infrastructure projects."
Yeah, that's how elementary school arithmetic works.
Yeah, that's how elementary school arithmetic works.
David Amos
@Gord McPherson Methinks most
folks understand and trust elementary school math far ahead of the
fancy arithmetic employed by actuaries, bureaucrats, politicians and
Banksters etc N'esy Pas?
Carl Street
Convoys of Shred-it trucks spotted leaving Queen's Park early this morning ...
David Amos
@Carl Street Methinks they will have a hard time shredding my files N'esy Pas?
Ralph Green
Your next trudeau, good riddance to you in 2019:)
Buford Wilson
(Good call Ralph).
Hardee Hamlin
@Ralph Green Regardless of
your political leanings, could I ask that people spend a few minutes
understanding the difference between your and you're?
David Amos
@Hardee Hamlin Methinks everybody and his dog understood what Ralph meant N'esy Pas?
Bill Edward Goate
Trudeau's got to be running scared.
Only a handful of Liberal MPPs left standing in Ontario to help his ground game next year.
It wasn't just a rejection of Wynne. It was a resounding rejection of Liberal policies and "accomplishments."
Only a handful of Liberal MPPs left standing in Ontario to help his ground game next year.
It wasn't just a rejection of Wynne. It was a resounding rejection of Liberal policies and "accomplishments."
@Bill Edward Goate
To the contrary, Doug Ford is a gift to the federal Liberals. Just watch.
To the contrary, Doug Ford is a gift to the federal Liberals. Just watch.
David Amos
@Hardee Hamlin Methinks folks
should bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee petrodollars that I am
gonna enjoy watching the Circus as Carbon Tax gets chucked in the trash
N'esy Pas?
Casper Whitehead
The death spiral of the left continues.
Perry Best
@David Gha "Except Trudeau has no power over how Ontario deals with its election..."
Apparently Trudeau has no power over how Canada deals with its election either.
Apparently Trudeau has no power over how Canada deals with its election either.
David Amos
@Perry Best Oh so true
Gorden Feist
The magic is that people
voted for a guy with no platform. Good luck with those efficiencies
(deep cuts, wage rollbacks, the funneling of everything not nailed down
into the hands of the already super-wealthy) Ontario, you're gonna need
it.
Joan MacDonald
@Gorden Feist
There is absolutely nothing wrong with trimming the fat at the top. Ontario hydro CEO must be shaking in his boots this morning.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with trimming the fat at the top. Ontario hydro CEO must be shaking in his boots this morning.
David Amos
@Joan MacDonald "Ontario hydro CEO must be shaking in his boots this morning."
Methinks many folks would not bet on it N'esy Pas?
Methinks many folks would not bet on it N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-election-vote-ford-horwath-wynne-pc-ndp-liberal-green-1.4696736
Doug Ford leads Ontario PCs to majority government, CBC News projects
PCs have secured more than 63 seats, Greens elect first MPP in Guelph
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David Amos
Methinks Doug Ford and anyone
else who cares should Google the names of Bill Morneau, Kathleen Wynne,
Andrea Horwath, Patrick Brown and mine sometime soon N'esy Pas?
Robert Green
I wonder how long before Ontario realizes its mistake.4 years is a long time for Ford to do a lot of damage.
The people of Ontario fail to remember that Whynn had to deal with Harper who would not work with her and it costed Ontario huge.Now they kick her to the curb and bring in a Ford.Do you people pay attention to whats going on?
The people of Ontario fail to remember that Whynn had to deal with Harper who would not work with her and it costed Ontario huge.Now they kick her to the curb and bring in a Ford.Do you people pay attention to whats going on?
David Amos
@Robert Green Methinks Wynne
and her liberal cohorts won a mandate in Ontario 3 years before Harper
won his first minority mandate Although I am no fan of Harper how is
this big defeat his fault 3 years after he got the boot?
David Amos
@Robert Green In nutshell
methinks liberals or any other political party should take
responsibility and correct their mistakes or the electorate will make a
change in governance N'esy Pas?
JOHN MCTAGGART
You can fool all the people
some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot
fool all the people all the time.
A. Lincoln
Exactly!
A. Lincoln
Exactly!
David Amos
@JOHN MCTAGGART Methinks many a ghost from south of the Mason Dixon Line would agree with you and ol Abe N'esy Pas?
Rob Dougherty
Can our boys and girls go
back to being what they are, boys and girls and not Unicorns any more?
My liberal friends are so happy to vote Conservative every chance we
get. Wynne down, one to go.
David Amos
@Rob Dougherty Methinks that may upset Trudeau the Younger's plans for peoplekind N'esy Pas?
Rob Dougherty
@David Amos Ya Dave.. I'd
forgotten about that. No wonder he keeps pitching his platform for
people whose brain hasn't fully developed.
David Amos
@Rob Dougherty Methinks a lot
of people voted for him last time for two reasons no more first past
the post elections and the legalization of pot. Now that those issues
are history perhaps the future will tell another tale. Trudeau The
Younger may become one term Prime Minister who failed to make a come
back like his daddy once did At least we get to just watch him N'esy
Pas?
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David Amos
@Rob Dougherty Methinks folks
will excuse my spelling and grammar I typed quickly because its well
past closing time for this comment section N'esy Pas?
Rob Clayton
Alright CBC , Kathleen Wynne
is a nothing , a nobody get her face off our News and TV screen. Your
fawning is disgusting. She is irrwelwvant and so is the Liberal party.
Despite the fact that you are trying to secure funding for eons we will
make certain this doesn't happen
David Amos
@Rob Clayton I just heard CBC fawning all over Kathleen Wynne on the radio and shook my head at the nonsense of it all.
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David Amos
@David Amos Methinks folks
should tune into CBC if you are in the Maritimes Now they are singing
the NDP praises (It will likely be aired in Ontario after this comment
section closes)
Tony Schut
Let's all hope for a massive Conservative win.
Robert Paul
@Tony Schut
Got it! Thank Goodness!
Got it! Thank Goodness!
David Amos
@Tony Schut Methinks the Fat Lady just sang the Blues to a lot of folks N'esy Pas?
Lou Parks
@David Amos
What's that "N'esy Pas" nonsense?
What's that "N'esy Pas" nonsense?
David Amos
@Lou Parks "The vote doesn't mean "nothing", but it does mean little.
It's *insurmountably* confined within our *staged* democracy."
Methinks you should have no trouble whatsoever understanding nonsense N'esy Pas?
It's *insurmountably* confined within our *staged* democracy."
Methinks you should have no trouble whatsoever understanding nonsense N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Lou Parks "It's *insurmountably* confined within our *staged* democracy.
Methinks you must have noticed that this is the only comment thread that remains today in which you and your political cohorts tried to dice with me yesterday.
So much for our "staged democracy" It should be easy now for you political people to understand why I called it a circus and twisted French words. The awful truth is if one can't find fun in the madness one will go crazy N'esy Pas?
Methinks you must have noticed that this is the only comment thread that remains today in which you and your political cohorts tried to dice with me yesterday.
So much for our "staged democracy" It should be easy now for you political people to understand why I called it a circus and twisted French words. The awful truth is if one can't find fun in the madness one will go crazy N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@david mccaig "Maybe Ontarians in their collective wisdom just gave the Conservative Party enough rope to hang themselves."
Just like yesterday you buried my comment with 18 of your own? Methinks left wingnuts doth protest to much N'esy Pas?
Just like yesterday you buried my comment with 18 of your own? Methinks left wingnuts doth protest to much N'esy Pas?
david mccaig
@Tony Schut
An iron curtain has descended over Ontario
An iron curtain has descended over Ontario
Darren Mack
Six seats for Wynne, please
let this happpen to Trudeau Liberals in 2019, voter backlash for
incompetence is sooooooooooooooooooo SWEET.
David Amos
@Darren Mack Methinks this article says the tally for Wynne is seven N'esy Pas?
Tom Revin
@Darren Mack ; You do realize
that Alberta had CONs in power for 40+ years and they also swept them
completely out of power during the last election, right?
Just because they wear the CON banner, doesn't mean they'll be any better.
Just because they wear the CON banner, doesn't mean they'll be any better.
John Smith
@Darren Mack - everybody in
Ontario was hurt badly by the Wynne Liberals. Justin only hurts the
West and Alberta in particular. Many in the East (where most voters
reside) love him for this.
David Amos
@John Smith Methinks you should take a little trip to the Maritimes sometime We vote too N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Tom Revin True
Sam Malone
Canadians, i think we can all
agree that most of our media doesn't represent us and that they
actually try to deceive us. It's a major problem.
David Amos
@Sam Malone I agree
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David Amos
@Sam Malone "our media doesn't represent us and that they actually try to deceive us."
Methinks its truly amazing how many comments were "Content Disabled" and how many "Most Liked" comment threads CBC has deleted in the past 24 hours alone N'esy Pas?
Methinks its truly amazing how many comments were "Content Disabled" and how many "Most Liked" comment threads CBC has deleted in the past 24 hours alone N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Sam Malone Methinks its too bad that you could not read my second reply to your N'esy Pas?
jean george
Mario Enrique
@Sam Malone And cbc leads that media group.
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David Amos
@Mario Enrique Methinks this is their website that is blocking free speech N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Mario Enrique Oh So True
Canada is a conservative
country not a social experiment where we loose our souls and culture in
a tasteless liberal/NDP ratatouille..
David Amos
@jean george Methinks you don't speak for peoplekind N'esy Pas?
Buford Wilson
An enormous victory for Doug, for Ontario and for all of Canada.
The pride is back.
The pride is back.
Bob Hull
@Scott Brown
DON'T hold your breath waiting for your saviour, you will expire.
DON'T hold your breath waiting for your saviour, you will expire.
David Amos
@Bob Hull Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Buford Wilson Methinks the truly funny part of your comment is that you are not joking N'esy Pas?
Ivan Smith
To bad CBC the faux outrage about the lawsuit against Ford had no effect.
Nartha Shannon
@Ivan Smith
Yes! Too bad that people can not see that how Doug Ford that does not care about his brother's family can care about Ontario! It is really bad! But what can you do? You show the truth to People but they end up going with fake populists like Trump and Ford! It is the result of watching too much Fox News and Hollywood movies!
Yes! Too bad that people can not see that how Doug Ford that does not care about his brother's family can care about Ontario! It is really bad! But what can you do? You show the truth to People but they end up going with fake populists like Trump and Ford! It is the result of watching too much Fox News and Hollywood movies!
David Amos
@Nartha Shannon Methinks something certainly smelled pretty fishy about the timing of the lawsuit N'esy Pas?
Chuck Bremner
Shame on the lefty media. Saving that phony bombshell story and
releasing it 2 days before the election. Glad it didn't work.
releasing it 2 days before the election. Glad it didn't work.
David Amos
@Chuck Bremner Methinks that is not the only thing they should be ashamed of N'esy Pas?
Bill Clay
Congratulations Premier Ford!
Willard Grant
@Bill Clay
He would like to thank the 1% for all that they have done for him....
He would like to thank the 1% for all that they have done for him....
Bill Clay
@Willard Grant
Hehehehehehe......you lose!
Hehehehehehe......you lose!
Willard Grant
@Bill Clay
Lol...I'll go grab one of those 1 dollar beers and let them start playing the Benny Hill music...
Lol...I'll go grab one of those 1 dollar beers and let them start playing the Benny Hill music...
David Amos
@Willard Grant Methinks thou
doth jest about beer and Benny Hill too much. Trudeau the Younger
promise to legalize pot helped to bring him a big mandate so why
wouldn't Ford try it with a buck a beer? What is sauce for the goose is
sauce for the gander N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Robert West Methinks the
outgoing Liberal Ontario Attorney General should provide my documents to
the incoming Conservative Attorney General ASAP Rule 57 of Federal
Court applies to them as well no matter what colour of coat the
politicians wears N'esy Pas?
Glenn Carruthers
A great day for Ontario. Congratulations from
Saskatchewan.
Saskatchewan.
Scott Brown
@Blot Smail,
They need carbon tax to support their out of control spending, plain and simple.
"B.C.’s formerly ‘revenue neutral’ carbon tax turned into another government cash grab"
http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/how-b-c-s-formerly-revenue-neutral-carbon-tax-turned-into-another-government-cash-grab
They need carbon tax to support their out of control spending, plain and simple.
"B.C.’s formerly ‘revenue neutral’ carbon tax turned into another government cash grab"
http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/how-b-c-s-formerly-revenue-neutral-carbon-tax-turned-into-another-government-cash-grab
David Amos
@Scott Brown Methinks Ford's promise to get rid of Carbon Tax was the number one reason he was elected N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Glenn Carruthers Methinks you should say hey to your longstanding MP Ralph Goodale for me N'esy Pas?
Madelien Hughes
Oh geez...the smearing of
Doug Ford continues until the last second. Did I really just have to
watch a sing along with Kathleen? Dear gawd.
David Amos
@Madelien Hughes Methinks a lot of folks loved watching the circus in CBC N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Madelien Hughes Methinks
Doug Ford may have a migraine when he finally gets around to reading the
emails I have been sending him for months that Premier Wynne's computer
acknowleged N'esy Pas?
albert franken
Though he's already in over his head, life just got even more complicated for Justin.
David Amos
@albert franken Methinks a lot of folks doubt that the sneaky Yankee Al Franken will get your joke on CBC N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Ron LeGrow
Justin your next.
@Izzy Mandelbaum
Give his some credit. Three words and no spelling mistakes puts him in the Conservative elite. Although he did have the glaring error of forgetting to have his cap lock on.
Give his some credit. Three words and no spelling mistakes puts him in the Conservative elite. Although he did have the glaring error of forgetting to have his cap lock on.
Robert Paul
@Ron LeGrow
Better sooner than later. He should resign. He is incompetent.
Better sooner than later. He should resign. He is incompetent.
David Amos
@Ron LeGrow Justin your next.
YUP
YUP
"POOF"
Joe Smithson
The election of Doug Ford and Trump proves that humanity is regressing.
Our founding fathers would be appalled.
Our founding fathers would be appalled.
Robert Paul
@John Smith
As an old Korean saying goes, "The emptiest cart makes the most rattle."
As an old Korean saying goes, "The emptiest cart makes the most rattle."
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks there are lots of wise old guys around the world N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Darren Mack
Trudeau and Wynne destoryer of nations soon to be gone, but certainly not forgotten for all the wrong reasons.
Robert Paul
@Darren Mack
We almost got Horwath destroyer of nations too. Thank goodness common sense prevailed today! My blood pressure is going to go down a lot now, thank goodness!
We almost got Horwath destroyer of nations too. Thank goodness common sense prevailed today! My blood pressure is going to go down a lot now, thank goodness!
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks I am far from done with you N'esy Pas?
Peter Pusher
@David Amos
It's n'est-ce pas, n'est-ce pas?
Hasn't anybody told this fella yet?
It's n'est-ce pas, n'est-ce pas?
Hasn't anybody told this fella yet?
Robert Paul
@Peter Pusher
I've told him but he keeps doing it. I'm not insulted that he gets my language wrong, it's cute he even tries, but why not get it right?
I've told him but he keeps doing it. I'm not insulted that he gets my language wrong, it's cute he even tries, but why not get it right?
@David Amos Methinks it is high time your friend Mr Paul told you the truth N'esy Pas?
William Keleher
@Peter Pusher
Have you ever talked to a wall? You get about the same result.
Have you ever talked to a wall? You get about the same result.
David Amos
@William Keleher Methinks I just did now I will tell you the la meme chose N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Lester Rowe
She sells sanctuary at a cost Ontario can't afford,
Matt Micalizzi
@Steven Arsenault You mean like when Ford voted to make Toronto a sanctuary city?
Robert Paul
@Lester Rowe
She would have made Ontario so bad that we would be seeking sanctuary in the countries the sanctuary seekers are coming from!
She would have made Ontario so bad that we would be seeking sanctuary in the countries the sanctuary seekers are coming from!
David Amos
@Matt Micalizzi Interesting
"POOF"
joseph rockford
joseph rockford
Time for socialists to crawl back under their rocks...
Normal people have taken back Ontario from the brink.
Normal people have taken back Ontario from the brink.
Robert Paul
@joseph rockford
Narrowly, but clearly and decisively. Thank goodness!
Narrowly, but clearly and decisively. Thank goodness!
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks you should remind Mr Ford of my lawsuit N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks the cat named Kory must have your tongue N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Luke Armstrong
Luke Armstrong
Premier Doug Ford!
Robert Paul
@Luke Armstrong
Long live Ford! (I hope he starts exercising to keep his heart strong.)
Long live Ford! (I hope he starts exercising to keep his heart strong.)
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks you have turned into quite an admirer within just a few hours N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Justin Smith
Go Doug! He'll bring prosperity back to Ontario.
@Justin Smith
Here! Here!
Here! Here!
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks that
the least I seen you write today You spin doctors must be celebrating
too much to bother saying much N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Jeff McMaster
Jeff McMaster
Take a sick day CBC
Scott Brown
@Jeff McMaster,
Once Trudeau is gone, hopefully CBC policy books will be thrown out of the door and the real objective journalism will be reinstated.
Once Trudeau is gone, hopefully CBC policy books will be thrown out of the door and the real objective journalism will be reinstated.
Robert Paul
@Jeff McMaster
Good. The people of Ontario were not swayed by the Mainstream Media's brainwashing attempts.
Good. The people of Ontario were not swayed by the Mainstream Media's brainwashing attempts.
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks your buddy Kory had a plan for that N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Tony Schut
Trudeau is next.
David Amos
@Tony Schut Heres hoping
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David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks it high
time to be rid of the overpaid political spin doctors inhabiting CBC's
comment sections N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-election-day-voting-2018-1.4693935
Ontario voters head to the polls after roller-coaster election campaign
After 15 years of Liberal governments, Ontario appears poised for a big change
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Neil Austen
It's disturbing how many
Canadians would still support Ford after that disgusting Gong Show with
him and his brother. Have Canadians become so uneducated and
ill-informed? Just a disgrace.
Lee Hall
@Dave Hall <--- a="" about="" and="" been="" big="" br="" business="" care="" connected="" conservative="" guy="" has="" have="" i="" kid="" little="" of="" party="" people.="" people="" reason="" since="" small="" the="" to="" was="" wealthiest="" wealthy="" well="" zero="">
I remember when Mulroney told Canadians we have to support free trade as it was our only hope to compete. How many jobs in Ontario have been lost to free trade? As corporations made *billions* with cheap labour overseas. We were betrayed. As his daughter wanted to lead our province again. As we are so gullible.
It is like a horror movie script.
Don Douglas
@Neil Austen
It's disturbing how many Canadians supported Wynn eafter that disgusting Gong Show with green energy and hydro rates. Have Canadians become so uneducated and ill-informed? Just a disgrace
It's disturbing how many Canadians supported Wynn eafter that disgusting Gong Show with green energy and hydro rates. Have Canadians become so uneducated and ill-informed? Just a disgrace
David Amos
@Don Douglas Touche
David Amos
@Lee Hall "I remember when Mulroney told Canadians we have to support free trade as it was our only hope to compete."
Me Too
Me Too
David Amos
@Dave Hall "A Conservative vote should not be interpreted as support for Doug."
Well put sir.
Well put sir.
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks you must be having a very bad day N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@david mccaig Methinks you should calm down before you have a stroke N'es Pas?
Tim Klassen
@Neil Austen
People are not more uneducated. They just disagree with your viewpoints...and thats ok.
People are not more uneducated. They just disagree with your viewpoints...and thats ok.
David Amos
@Tim Klassen It should be
Dwight Williams
If you vote for someone who won't spell out what he stands for you get what you deserve.
Every single one of you who gripes that the federal liberals are not transparent enough and then votes for Doug Ford who won't give you any specific details deserves to get shafted, which is what's going to happen to you.
It's time to get serious.
Demand answers before you vote,
Every single one of you who gripes that the federal liberals are not transparent enough and then votes for Doug Ford who won't give you any specific details deserves to get shafted, which is what's going to happen to you.
It's time to get serious.
Demand answers before you vote,
Lee Hall
@Richard Nichols
Sanders was polling 12% higher than Trump during the election. He would have won handily. And the US would probably have single payer healthcare already.
Sanders was polling 12% higher than Trump during the election. He would have won handily. And the US would probably have single payer healthcare already.
David Amos
@Lee Hall "Sanders was
polling 12% higher than Trump during the election. He would have won
handily. And the US would probably have single payer healthcare
already." Methinks you don't know the Yankee Bernie Sanders I crossed paths with in 2003 N'esy Pas?
david mccaig
@Dwight Williams
Want to see what a Doug Ford premiership would look like just look south of the border at what you get when you elect these hard line right wingers.
Want to see what a Doug Ford premiership would look like just look south of the border at what you get when you elect these hard line right wingers.
David Amos
@david mccaig Methinks we are gonna watch you cry us a river all day N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Frank Gallagher "Left wing mentality is ironically hilarious lol"
Methinks their reasoning helps to make the circus so entertaining N'esy Pas?
Vigil Westover
Methinks their reasoning helps to make the circus so entertaining N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@david mccaig Methinks you must have had a stroke Its been 5 hours seen you quit ranting N'esy Pas?
Vigil Westover
Bye Wynne, but please don't leave town. The new sitting Government will have many questions after they review the books.
David Amos
@Vigil Westover Methinks it
would make for quite a circus if Wynne were to be the only liberal to
win a seat this time around N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Keith Burton "I truly believe he just decided by himself to do the deed no one asked or paid him to do it!!!"
Methinks I have some swamp land in Florida that you may be interested in N'esy Pas?
Methinks I have some swamp land in Florida that you may be interested in N'esy Pas?
Joe Godin
Blatant, absolute blatant and telling, bias from the CBC.
"...roller-coaster election campaign". Sure. From DAY ONE, the CBC's OWN polls have shown a PC gov't and that prediction did not change ONCE. How on earth is that roller-coaster?
"...the PCs could be set for a majority government..." Could? Since DAY ONE, the polls have conistently shown a PC minority or majority. Even TODAY, CBC's own Poll Tracker shows a 93%-PLUS chance of a PC gov't - an INCREASE from just 24 hours previously!
As for the estate issue, over TWO years have passed and the 'challenge' is only issued days before an election? Sour grapes methinks and some unsubtle 'pressure'.
The BEST thing about the new PC gov't in Ontario, apart from starting to repair the dmage done by Wynne and the Liberals, will the end of CBC's overt bias in reporting poll results and pathetically trying to spin the all too obvious indications.
Lee Hall
@Joe Godin
CBC is corporate media. CBC is pro oligarchy and protecting the very wealthy. Look at how they are covering the phony US led war on Syria.
CBC is corporate media. CBC is pro oligarchy and protecting the very wealthy. Look at how they are covering the phony US led war on Syria.
David Amos
@Joe Godin "Blatant, absolute blatant and telling, bias from the CBC. "
YUP
YUP
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David Amos
David Amos
@Lee Hall I agree Methinks you should read paragraph 83 of my lawsuit against the Crown ASAP N'esy Pas?
Aaron Morris
@David Amos
Your encyclopediadramatica entry is very telling.
Your encyclopediadramatica entry is very telling.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Aaron Morris Methinks you do understand it is about me but it is not my submission to such an egregious website. Correct?
However you really should scroll down through the text of my lawsuit that the Troll offers and read paragraph 83 real slow then Google the name of his friend Barry Winters. Trust that CBC knows the score N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/nobody-safe-from-edmonton-blogger-charged-with-hate-crime-1.4161015
'Nobody was safe from it': Edmonton blogger charged with rare hate crime targeted individuals across Canada
Police say Barry Winters, 62, made derogatory remarks about race, gender, politics
Roberta Bell · CBC News · Posted: Jun 14, 2017 5:38 PM MT
However you really should scroll down through the text of my lawsuit that the Troll offers and read paragraph 83 real slow then Google the name of his friend Barry Winters. Trust that CBC knows the score N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/nobody-safe-from-edmonton-blogger-charged-with-hate-crime-1.4161015
'Nobody was safe from it': Edmonton blogger charged with rare hate crime targeted individuals across Canada
Police say Barry Winters, 62, made derogatory remarks about race, gender, politics
Roberta Bell · CBC News · Posted: Jun 14, 2017 5:38 PM MT
David Amos
@Aaron Morris Methinks it was an even more telling thing that CBC blocked my reply N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Aaron Morris Ask CBC about it
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/nobody-safe-from-edmonton-blogger-charged-with-hate-crime-1.4161015
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/nobody-safe-from-edmonton-blogger-charged-with-hate-crime-1.4161015
David Amos
@Aaron Morris "Your encyclopediadramatica entry is very telling."
Methinks many folks should go to the "encyclopediadramatica entry" and scroll down to paragraph 83 of my lawsuit against the Crown in order to read it then ask Trudeau The Younger a few questions before the next federal election N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ontario-provincial-election-feds-1.4655519
How the Ontario election is a warm-up act for the 2019 federal campaign
In staffing, tactics and policy, there's a lot of carry-over between the federal and provincial operations
Hannah Thibedeau · CBC News · Posted: May 09, 2018 4:51 PM ET
David Amos
@John Oaktree "The CBC is not bias. I think they're the most trustworthy news source in Canada."
Methinks you should explain this article to me real slow sometime N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
Methinks you should explain this article to me real slow sometime N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
David Amos
@Lee Hall Methinks you know why my reply to you went "Poof" after it stood for quite awhile N'esy Pas?
Scott Brown
@david mccaig,
We don't need to go as far as Harper. Every day we see CBC's pro-Liberal, pro-Democrats, anti-Conservative, anti-Republicans and anti-Christian articles.
We don't need to go as far as Harper. Every day we see CBC's pro-Liberal, pro-Democrats, anti-Conservative, anti-Republicans and anti-Christian articles.
Scott Brown
@david mccaig,
Show me an article arguing that guns can be effective for personal defense against crime, or an article discussing men's problems, or an article criticizing members of any other religion besides Christianity, etc. etc.
Zero, zip, zilch, nada.
Show me an article arguing that guns can be effective for personal defense against crime, or an article discussing men's problems, or an article criticizing members of any other religion besides Christianity, etc. etc.
Zero, zip, zilch, nada.
Gerry Ferguson
@Scott Brown
well said. I agree.
well said. I agree.
David Amos
@Gerry Ferguson Me Too
David Amos
@Aaron Morris "Your encyclopediadramatica entry is very telling."
Methinks the cat must still have your tongue N'esy Pas?
Methinks the cat must still have your tongue N'esy Pas?
Jim Moore
Bye Bye Liberals without party status, just a sign of things to come in fall 2019. It can't come soon enough.
David Amos
@Jim Moore YUP
david mccaig
@Jim Moore
I think even ROB FORD somewhere in another reality ,realizing the error of his ways, would vote NDP over his brother.
I think even ROB FORD somewhere in another reality ,realizing the error of his ways, would vote NDP over his brother.
David Amos
@david mccaig Methinks that was particularly nasty N'esy Pas?
Alice P Lynne
Ontario's provincial debt per person - $22,000
Canada's public debt per person - $18,000
Municipal public debt - ?
Some people don't even earn $40,000/year yet they are born owing it............and climbing.
No country has ever bankrupted themselves into prosperity.
So, why double down and go from socialist to communist?
The only choice is clear.
Canada's public debt per person - $18,000
Municipal public debt - ?
Some people don't even earn $40,000/year yet they are born owing it............and climbing.
No country has ever bankrupted themselves into prosperity.
So, why double down and go from socialist to communist?
The only choice is clear.
Lee Hall
@Alice P Lynne <--- are="" arguments="" br="" flawed.="" politics.="" propagandizing="" using="" you="" your="">
Tax money is being wasted primarily by charlatan politicians and the oligarchy who care more about padding their own profits than working people.
Tax money is being wasted primarily by charlatan politicians and the oligarchy who care more about padding their own profits than working people.
David Amos
@Lee Hall "Your arguments are flawed. You are propagandizing using politics."
Methinks the lady is not alone N'esy Pas?
Methinks the lady is not alone N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Bruce Graham "I have not heard of a communist party running. You don't seem to know what you are talking about."
Methinks the communist party may wish to disagree with you N'esy Pas?
Methinks the communist party may wish to disagree with you N'esy Pas?
Manny Fredrick
Just waiting for another lefty to tell me that I'm ill informed and uneducated, because I'm gonna vote for the winners today!
David Amos
@Manny Fredrick "Just waiting for another lefty to tell me that I'm ill informed" Methinks by the end of the day the lefties will be taking a number and getting in line in order to give you a tongue lashing N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Robert Paul "Characterizing a
leftie high-taxing government as a "thief government" is not I think, a
lie. Also, stating that I have a graduate degree and that this
education is helping me see that the Conservatives are a better choice,
is also not a lie. "
Methinks by your logic I must be less than chopped liver merely because I can smell your BS N'esy Pas?
Methinks by your logic I must be less than chopped liver merely because I can smell your BS N'esy Pas?
Neil Austen
Conservatives have always
been incompetent fiscal managers - the worst. Look at past histories of
their governments and they have the highest debts with the littlest to
show for it. Conservatives are fiscally incompetent at best, malfeasance
and malicious more likely.
Robert Paul
@Neil Austen
Absolutely false. Harper did an excellent job.
Some Liberals did excellent jobs too, like Paul Martin as finance minister.
The NDP however, never ever ever.
Absolutely false. Harper did an excellent job.
Some Liberals did excellent jobs too, like Paul Martin as finance minister.
The NDP however, never ever ever.
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks many Canadians are laughing so hard at your comment that they are crying You must be joking N'esy Pas?
Robert Paul
@David Amos
More are laughing at your French.
More are laughing at your French.
David Amos
@Robert Paul WOW You actually believe what you posted?
Methinks that is truly funny Trust that you will never understand why I employ a certain expression to end all my comments even though I explained it several times much to the chagrin of many an English political person N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is truly funny Trust that you will never understand why I employ a certain expression to end all my comments even though I explained it several times much to the chagrin of many an English political person N'esy Pas?
Robert Paul
@David Amos
In -y -yit right?
How do you like be messing around with your language? It's not that it's rude or anything, it's just wrong and looks dumb.
In -y -yit right?
How do you like be messing around with your language? It's not that it's rude or anything, it's just wrong and looks dumb.
Buford Wilson
Ontario was once the mighty economic engine of Canada.
Doug will return it to its former glory.
Forward Together.
Doug will return it to its former glory.
Forward Together.
Robert Paul
@Chris Halford
Disagree. I think Ford will do a good job. It’s the team that counts anyhow. Christine Elliott and others are there with him.
Disagree. I think Ford will do a good job. It’s the team that counts anyhow. Christine Elliott and others are there with him.
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks if you
seek true enlightenment you should Google the names of Bill Morneau,
Andrea Horwath, Patrick Brown, Christine Elliott and mine N'esy Pas?
Jon Holmes
@David Amos it's N'est Pas FFS. If you're gonna pretend at being Canadian get it right.
Robert Paul
@David Amos
It's n'est pas, not n'esy pas. I am glad you are speaking my language a bit, but it's even nicer if you spell it correctly.
It's n'est pas, not n'esy pas. I am glad you are speaking my language a bit, but it's even nicer if you spell it correctly.
David Amos
@Robert Paul "I am glad you are speaking my language a bit, but it's even nicer if you spell it correctly."
Methinks you have no idea as to who I am Hence you have no clue as to why I am laughing N'esy Pas?
Methinks you have no idea as to who I am Hence you have no clue as to why I am laughing N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Jon Holmes "If you're gonna pretend at being Canadian get it right."
Methinks you know as well as I why I ran for public office in Canada five times thus ar N'esy Pas?
Methinks you know as well as I why I ran for public office in Canada five times thus ar N'esy Pas?
Frank Gallagher
@Robert Paul actually the proper way is n'est-ce pas.
David Amos
@Frank Gallagher FYI Jon Holmes said "it's N'est Pas FFS. If you're gonna pretend at being Canadian get it right."
Survey Says???
http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4832-8924
Jeremie Barthas, L'argent n'esy pas le nerf de la guerre. Essai sur une prétendue erreur de Machiavel BELFAGOR
2012 | journal-article
Source: Raffaele Ruggiero
Survey Says???
http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4832-8924
Jeremie Barthas, L'argent n'esy pas le nerf de la guerre. Essai sur une prétendue erreur de Machiavel BELFAGOR
2012 | journal-article
Source: Raffaele Ruggiero
Frank Gallagher
@David Amos idk man Merriam concurs with me
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/n%27est-ce%20pas%3F
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/n%27est-ce%20pas%3F
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David Amos
@Frank Gallagher Methinks I
just proved to you that I did not coin a phrase you dispute with your
cohorts. Trust tha I don't care what old man Merriam thinks about
anything in French or English. I am the man suing the Queen remember?
However yu cannot deny that it is I who signs off with that phrase for reasons of my own that I have explained at least three times to your pals within CBC. Those reasons have been ignored thus far and trust that I no longer care as I laugh at you petty nonsense about my choice of words.
What folks should question is why is it that you political people worry about a phrase I use to end all of my comments in CBC instead of the tips I have been giving you within the comments N'esy Pas?
However yu cannot deny that it is I who signs off with that phrase for reasons of my own that I have explained at least three times to your pals within CBC. Those reasons have been ignored thus far and trust that I no longer care as I laugh at you petty nonsense about my choice of words.
What folks should question is why is it that you political people worry about a phrase I use to end all of my comments in CBC instead of the tips I have been giving you within the comments N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Robert Paul "My vote was going to be for Mulroney."
Methinks you should Google Caroline Mulroney, Christine Elliott and David Raymond Amos sometime N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should Google Caroline Mulroney, Christine Elliott and David Raymond Amos sometime N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Frank Gallagher Methinks I should not be surprised to see the "Content disabled." notice applied to my reply to you N'esy Pas?
Kevin Delaney
If you are entitled to vote in this, then vote. It matters.
David Amos
@John Oaktree Dream on about your "Do-Over" button.
Methinks you just bored with the left and right wingnuts and their mindless banter for today. Tis time for supper and a nap then wake up in time to watch the Fat Lady sing the blues in Ontario tonight N'esy Pas?
Methinks you just bored with the left and right wingnuts and their mindless banter for today. Tis time for supper and a nap then wake up in time to watch the Fat Lady sing the blues in Ontario tonight N'esy Pas?
Buford Wilson
The power of positive change.
Support Doug.
Support Doug.
Nelson Barley
@Buford Wilson
Jenni, is that you?
Jenni, is that you?
David Amos
@Nelson Barley LOL
Nigel Marshall
Remember when conservatives had a sense of decency?
Can you imagine Diefenbaker, Bill Davis or Joe Clark supporting Doug Ford?
Can you imagine Diefenbaker, Bill Davis or Joe Clark supporting Doug Ford?
David Amos
@Nigel Marshall "Remember when conservatives had a sense of decency?"
Methinks the only decent Conservative who earned the right to be remembered fondly is the Prime Minister everyone tries hard to forget. However a lot of Proud Maritimers in Fundy Royal in particular honour him to this very day N'esy Pas?
However as far as I know the liberals haven't found a spot for him in Ottawa yet.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/r-b-bennett-statue-on-its-way-to-ottawa-1.3175130
R.B. Bennett statue on its way to Ottawa
CBC News · Posted: Jul 31, 2015 10:51 AM AT
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/green-party-mike-schreiner-election-guelph-win-in-reach-1.4694216
Green Leader Mike Schreiner 'cautiously optimistic' he'll win in Guelph
'Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values,' Schreiner says
· The Canadian Press · Posted: Jun 06, 2018 1:12 PM ET
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David Amos
Methinks I should offer a
little food for thought before this comment section closes. I truly
believe there would be a different outcome tonight if Premier Wynne had
paid attention to the emails I sent her and published in my blog etc
beginning in January of this year.
Anyone can Google the names of Bill Morneau, Patrick Brown, Andrea Horwath and mine to review what I am mentioning again before the election tonight is a matter of history N'esy Pas?
Anyone can Google the names of Bill Morneau, Patrick Brown, Andrea Horwath and mine to review what I am mentioning again before the election tonight is a matter of history N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks if one bothers to
notice the tally of comments in this article versus the one today about
Ford its kinda obvious Ford will be the Premier and Schreiner will not
win a seat Nesy Pas?
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks I should
disclose that I would prefer that Schreiner win a seat in Queen's Park
Its the difference in the clowns that make for a merry circus N'esy Pas?
https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/06/01/will-guelph-crown-ontarios-first-green-mpp.html
Will Guelph crown Ontario’s first Green MPP?
By Rob FergusonQueen's Park Bureau
Robert BenzieQueen's Park Bureau Chief
Wed., June 6, 2018
https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/06/01/will-guelph-crown-ontarios-first-green-mpp.html
Will Guelph crown Ontario’s first Green MPP?
By Rob FergusonQueen's Park Bureau
Robert BenzieQueen's Park Bureau Chief
Wed., June 6, 2018
Mike Underhill
I live in BC
Our Province is under the indirect control of 3 Greens/
Save your Province folks. DON'T vote Green
Our Province is under the indirect control of 3 Greens/
Save your Province folks. DON'T vote Green
David Amos
@Mike Underhill Methinks BC
under the "indirect control" of just one lawyer who is the Green Party
Leader camped in Ottawa N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-ontario-election-polls-1.4693795
With a day to go, Ontario election is still Doug Ford's to lose
PCs began the campaign as favourites to win and remain so today, but much has changed
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David Amos
@Ed Toogood Methinks folks
should congratulate you for becoming the "most liked" comment thread in a
very questionable fashion N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
John Oaktree
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
Content disabled.After I got 4 likes
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks you will cry us a river all day N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks its rather strange that my reply to you would be blocked after I got four likes N'esy Pas?
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mo bennett
mo bennett
@David Amos METHINKS YOU NEED TO STOP WITH THE MESSY PAWS!
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David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett NOPE
Does anyone notice a difference in the posts....those that are anti-Ford are coming in with facts and figures and analysis and those who support Ford are coming in with anger and no facts with the exception of Scott Brown who is at least has a working theory (corporate taxes) though I respectfully disagree.
I would say to Scott on that front that past performance is not an indicator of future performance and Americans will come to regret the big tax giveaway to the rich......it is not something we should model. They have a debt to GDP ratio of 105%....ours is 89%......theirs is going to sky rocket from trumps moves.....ours will stay consistent (even if it should be lower).
Steven Arsenault
@mo bennett
Does anyone notice a difference in the posts....those that are anti-Ford are coming in with facts and figures and analysis and those who support Ford are coming in with anger and no facts with the exception of Scott Brown who is at least has a working theory (corporate taxes) though I respectfully disagree.
I would say to Scott on that front that past performance is not an indicator of future performance and Americans will come to regret the big tax giveaway to the rich......it is not something we should model. They have a debt to GDP ratio of 105%....ours is 89%......theirs is going to sky rocket from trumps moves.....ours will stay consistent (even if it should be lower).
David Amos
@mo bennett Methinks you must know what they say about people who holler at ghosts N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Steven Arsenault "Does anyone notice a difference in the posts"
Methinks lots of folks have but they cannot read what CBC has blocked N'esy Pas?
Methinks lots of folks have but they cannot read what CBC has blocked N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@John Oaktree "Why do you want to stifle freedom of speech??"
Methinks you should ask CBC that question N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should ask CBC that question N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Ivan Nano
Ivan Nano
If you are fool enough to vote for this unqualified Ford, this time next year, we are allowed to a say 'we told you so'
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mo bennett
mo bennett
@Ivan Nano there's lots of fools out there that are allowed to vote. this should be stopped immediately
David Amos
@Ivan Nano Methinks a lot f folks don't want Carbon Tax N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@mo bennett "there's lots of fools out there that are allowed to vote. this should be stopped immediately!"
Methinks that thou doth jest too much Everybody knows that your liberal friends need every vote N'esy Pas?
Methinks that thou doth jest too much Everybody knows that your liberal friends need every vote N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Damien Johnston
Damien Johnston
Ontario will regret voting in ford!
Bill Nazarene
@Damien Johnston
Jim Keegstra, Malcolm Ross, Monika Schaefer, Kevin J. Johnston, Alexandre Bissonnette and Gabriel Sohier Chaput would vote for Rob/Doug if they could.
Jim Keegstra, Malcolm Ross, Monika Schaefer, Kevin J. Johnston, Alexandre Bissonnette and Gabriel Sohier Chaput would vote for Rob/Doug if they could.
Damien Johnston
@Bill Nazarene
Relevance?
Relevance?
Bill Nazarene
@Damien Johnston
That cohort doesn't really care about anything other than an intolerant, hateful Alt-R agenda. So long as Rob/Doug panders to that, he can do no wrong in their eyes.
That cohort doesn't really care about anything other than an intolerant, hateful Alt-R agenda. So long as Rob/Doug panders to that, he can do no wrong in their eyes.
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David Amos
@Damien Johnston Methinks he
is the lessor of the three stooges wanting to continue putting the
screws to the taxpayer for the benefit of we all know who N'esy Pas?
Neil Turv
@Damien Johnston
The names he listed off were various people convicted of hate speech,
or other bigotry related offences.
Which to his credit is similar but different from his usual tactic of randomly selecting a point that doesn't agree with his and screaming "alt-right."
There's three types of people in Bill's eyes:
himself, those who agree with everything he says...and the alt-right
The names he listed off were various people convicted of hate speech,
or other bigotry related offences.
Which to his credit is similar but different from his usual tactic of randomly selecting a point that doesn't agree with his and screaming "alt-right."
There's three types of people in Bill's eyes:
himself, those who agree with everything he says...and the alt-right
Bill Nazarene
@Neil Turv
The words 'tolerance', 'inclusive', 'feminist', 'diversity' do get your back up, Jethro. We've all seen it.
You betray yourself...
The words 'tolerance', 'inclusive', 'feminist', 'diversity' do get your back up, Jethro. We've all seen it.
You betray yourself...
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David Amos
David Amos
@Damien Johnston Methinks some political people are gonna enjoy checking out my reply to you that CBC blocked N'esy Pas?
mo bennett
Neil Turv
I'd love for Bill to call someone Alt-right and then finish with "Because you believe __________ based on this factual evidence." (And then he posts a link or quote).
Then I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but considering the frequency and enthusiasm with which he applies that abhorrent term, I personally feel it's just a childish way to shut down conversation, mainly because I don't believe 40%-60% of Canadians would qualify as "Alt-R" and base don his accusations that's the range in his head.
Patrick Smyth
@Damien Johnston ontario will regret voting for any politician!
@Bill Nazarene
If you say so buddy, my posts are just as public as yours.
If you say so buddy, my posts are just as public as yours.
David Amos
@Neil Turv "If you say so buddy, my posts are just as public as yours."
Methinks that many people wish that they could say the same as Mr Nazarene However only CBC and I know how many of my comments they blocked today unless Bill finally reads my blog N'esy Pas?
Methinks that many people wish that they could say the same as Mr Nazarene However only CBC and I know how many of my comments they blocked today unless Bill finally reads my blog N'esy Pas?
Neil Turv
@David Amos
@David Amos
I'd love for Bill to call someone Alt-right and then finish with "Because you believe __________ based on this factual evidence." (And then he posts a link or quote).
Then I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but considering the frequency and enthusiasm with which he applies that abhorrent term, I personally feel it's just a childish way to shut down conversation, mainly because I don't believe 40%-60% of Canadians would qualify as "Alt-R" and base don his accusations that's the range in his head.
"POOF"
Ivan Nano
Ivan Nano
If you are ridiculous enough
to vote in this completely unqualified Ford, I reserve the right a year
from now to say 'I told you so'
David Amos
@Ivan Nano Methinks you must have noticed that your other "most liked" thread and that of two others just went "POOF" N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
James Watson
James Watson
After her party is wiped out
maybe Wynne can ask for refugee status in Ottawa or even Toronto if
Horvath makes it a sanctuary city.
David Amos
@James Watson Methinks the
latest poll that CBC offers predicts that the liberals may win only one
seat. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Wynne is the only one elected to sit in
the house tomorrow. Now that would be a circus if she decided to quit
N'esy Pas?
James Watson
@David Amos
If she WERE the only sitting Liberal it would be fitting punishment .
If she WERE the only sitting Liberal it would be fitting punishment .
"POOF"
Bryan Atkinson
Bryan Atkinson
Rob was a more honest man than Doug and Rob was a disaster.
You should know by now, Ontario, you can't trust the Fords!
You should know by now, Ontario, you can't trust the Fords!
Robert Paul
@Jim Gurtle
That's a good way to put it.
I am voting for the party philosophy of more liberty legally and financially against the government.
The left wingers want to take away my money and my freedoms in order to benefit the "have nots" more than they deserve. Why anyone who is a "have" would vote to give it all away to bums I cannot fathom. It's a matter of degree - yes, help out people who cannot help themselves, which is a Conservative basic official value, but going too far like the Left is doing, is terribly unfair, and it's deception to suggest that the middle class should vote Left thinking that the Left will benefit them. It will not.
We need to attract money to the province so that we can all benefit from it in terms of jobs and services. High taxes discourage this. I am not saying to have no taxes, just that the Left is taking things way too far.
That's a good way to put it.
I am voting for the party philosophy of more liberty legally and financially against the government.
The left wingers want to take away my money and my freedoms in order to benefit the "have nots" more than they deserve. Why anyone who is a "have" would vote to give it all away to bums I cannot fathom. It's a matter of degree - yes, help out people who cannot help themselves, which is a Conservative basic official value, but going too far like the Left is doing, is terribly unfair, and it's deception to suggest that the middle class should vote Left thinking that the Left will benefit them. It will not.
We need to attract money to the province so that we can all benefit from it in terms of jobs and services. High taxes discourage this. I am not saying to have no taxes, just that the Left is taking things way too far.
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David Amos
@Robert Paul "I am voting for the party philosophy of more liberty legally and financially against the government."
Methinks many folks agree with you N'esy Pas?
Methinks many folks agree with you N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Paul Methinks its rather strange to be blocked because I merely agreed with you N'esy Pas?
Steven Arsenault
@David Amos
thanks for the reminder...I am going to mute you as that N'esy Pas? drives me nuts....I get that is your objective.
thanks for the reminder...I am going to mute you as that N'esy Pas? drives me nuts....I get that is your objective.
Patrick Smyth
@Steven Arsenault
Muted a couple of weeks ago and it has been pure bliss since then.
Muted a couple of weeks ago and it has been pure bliss since then.
@Rob Kov
There is plenty of evidence base arguments as well. You know, the ones you usually dismiss/ignore without addressing?
There is plenty of evidence base arguments as well. You know, the ones you usually dismiss/ignore without addressing?
Rob Kov
@Patrick Smyth like what? Be
specific, don't just accuse people and then walk away without any
substance to your argument, "You know, the ones you usually
dismiss/ignore without addressing?"
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David Amos
@Rob Kov Methinks if you
scroll up within this thread you will see two dudes who can't argue brag
that they have had my comments blocked N'esy Pas?
"POOF"
Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
I realize most people are
just voting to get rid of Wynne but to elect Ford as Premier? Ford? Good
Luck Ontario... Sounds like you'll need it.
@Tom Simpson I dunno, I see a
lot of people berating the federal leader/party that got in on the
"get-rid-of-the-current-administration-at-any-cost" vote. I think some
thought about who is being rallied behind, provincially, will serve the
people of Ontario better. Better than "just anyone other than Wynne", at
least.
If I am reading properly, Ontarians are voting for who can best fix Wynne's mess. There will be no forward movement based on political ideology or market preference. It's all about cleanup.
David Amos
@Daniel McKay "If I am reading properly, Ontarians are voting for who can best fix Wynne's mess."
I agree
I agree
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mo bennett
mo bennett
@David Amos NONE OF 'EM CAN FIX WYNNE'S MESS, JUST THE SAME AS YOU COULDN'T!
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David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett Who are you to
judge me in capital letters? Methinks you have done nothing at all
except make fun of people within CBC's comment sections N'esy Pas?
Ed Toogood
I want services, not tax cuts.
David Amos
@Ed Toogood "I want services, not tax cuts."
Methinks you jest or you drink way too much of the NDP's kool aid N'esy Pas?
Methinks you jest or you drink way too much of the NDP's kool aid N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Patrick Smyth "Yup, those
public sector employees aren't PEOPLE or anything, they are just things
to be used as pawns by politicians seeking power or convenient
scapegoats among the right for all of societies economic problems"
Methinks thou doth protest too much N'esy Pas ye who claims to mute me?
Methinks thou doth protest too much N'esy Pas ye who claims to mute me?
Richard Sharp
Me too. But we could do with
way fewer police, fire fighters and prison staff. America's crazy wars
on drugs, crime, illegal immigration, terror et al thoroughly infected
us and it's time we healed ourselves.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Methinks nobody would be surprised by your reply The real question is how long will it exist N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Methinks it should be no surprise that my reply to you was blocked N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Ed Toogood
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
David Amos
@John Oaktree Hours ago I
told you to cry me a river and so you have. However instead of posting
the same comments a bunch of times, why not read something for a
change? Methinks if you have no idea who I am just Google the names Bill
Morneau, Patrick Brown, Andrea Horwath and mine. You may become
enlightened just before polling day N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Lester Rowe "Sounds like a carefully thought out untruth."
Methinks if you truly wish to hear such wicked things all you have to do is just ask me for the cell phone number of Trump's lawyer N'esy Pas?
Methinks the "peoplekind" who blindly follow Trudeau the Younger and his cohorts get the governments they deserve. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ontario-provincial-election-feds-1.4655519
How the Ontario election is a warm-up act for the 2019 federal campaign
In staffing, tactics and policy, there's a lot of carry-over between the federal and provincial operations
Hannah Thibedeau · CBC News · Posted: May 09, 2018 4:51 PM ET
Methinks if you truly wish to hear such wicked things all you have to do is just ask me for the cell phone number of Trump's lawyer N'esy Pas?
Charles Maturin
@David Amos
NON snaypar vray Cest un mensonge.
I ff you insist in butchering a beautiful language you deserve to take a look at your own insulting method
NON snaypar vray Cest un mensonge.
I ff you insist in butchering a beautiful language you deserve to take a look at your own insulting method
David Amos
@Charles Maturin "butchering a beautiful language" ???
Methinks the "peoplekind" who blindly follow Trudeau the Younger and his cohorts get the governments they deserve. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ontario-provincial-election-feds-1.4655519
How the Ontario election is a warm-up act for the 2019 federal campaign
In staffing, tactics and policy, there's a lot of carry-over between the federal and provincial operations
Hannah Thibedeau · CBC News · Posted: May 09, 2018 4:51 PM ET
David Amos
@Ed Toogood Methinks folks
should congratulate you for becoming the "most liked" comment thread in a
very questionable fashion N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Charles Maturin "NON snaypar vray Cest un mensonge."
Methinks the cat must have your tongue N'esy Pas?
Methinks the cat must have your tongue N'esy Pas?
Andrew McLaren
Ford has nothing constructive
to offer Ontario: all he is capable of is boilerplate reactionary
rhetoric, and claims to represent "little guys" while supporting
policies that amplify inequality. If it's his election to lose, the only
mitigating factor in his favour, is advisors telling him to stick to
vague and minimal details on any political matter.
Nice sock puppet. And corporate vultures can fill their boots.
Nice sock puppet. And corporate vultures can fill their boots.
David Amos
@Jim Gurtle "Companies were leaving Ontario under Wynne and would pack their bags even faster if Horwath is premier"
YUP
YUP
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren "Ford has nothing constructive to offer Ontario"
Methinks his promise to turf Carbon Tax is a very big deal N'esy Pas?
Methinks his promise to turf Carbon Tax is a very big deal N'esy Pas?
Andrew McLaren
@David Amos
Youthinks abandoning a policy held by countries representing 95% of the Earth's population is a "very big deal" when it's more like holding a garage sale for bunker fuel distributors. Keep staring into the smog if you must.
Youthinks abandoning a policy held by countries representing 95% of the Earth's population is a "very big deal" when it's more like holding a garage sale for bunker fuel distributors. Keep staring into the smog if you must.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren Methinks you do know who I am N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren "Youthinks
abandoning a policy held by countries representing 95% of the Earth's
population is a "very big deal"
Methinks you are twisting my words for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Methinks you are twisting my words for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Andrew McLaren
@David Amos
I'll take your "N'esy Pas" as some cryptic affectation of the term "unnecessary". Ford's irrational plan to eliminate the carbon tax is politically twisted for many reasons, and "unnecessarily" places Ontario at a disadvantage when the rest of the planet is pricing carbon accordingly. There would be consequences, pay now or pay later.
I'll take your "N'esy Pas" as some cryptic affectation of the term "unnecessary". Ford's irrational plan to eliminate the carbon tax is politically twisted for many reasons, and "unnecessarily" places Ontario at a disadvantage when the rest of the planet is pricing carbon accordingly. There would be consequences, pay now or pay later.
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren Methinks that
you have no idea who I am However everybody "in the know" knows that if
you were to Google the names Bill Morneau, Patrick Brown, Andrea
Horwath and mine you may become enlightened just before polling day
N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Andrew McLaren
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
Doug Ford's promised nothing but huge whopping debt and chaos...
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks earlier when you had the most liked thread CBC blocked my replies to you for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Ivor Sargent
Ford would vote for Trump and vice versa.
Jim Graham
@Ivor Sargent
Yes, Trump, Doug Ford, Joe Arpaio and Roy Moore ... the ideal Trump foursome for a short 9 holes.
Yes, Trump, Doug Ford, Joe Arpaio and Roy Moore ... the ideal Trump foursome for a short 9 holes.
David Amos
@Jim Graham Methinks a couple
of my political foes such as the lawyer Rob Moore and his new boss I
call Harper 2.0 would vote for Ford and Trump if they could N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
David Amos
@Bill Nazarene "and Jim
Keegstra, Malcolm Ross, Monika Schaefer, Kevin J. Johnston, Alexandre
Bissonnette and Gabriel Sohier Chaput would vote for Rob/Doug if they
could."
Methinks you are being rather redundant N'esy Pas?
Methinks you are being rather redundant N'esy Pas?
LiAngelo Fisher
@Ivor Sargent
Hillary lost the election the moment she called millions of Americans deplorable. Believe it or not, but America made the right choice between 2 questionable choices.
Hillary lost the election the moment she called millions of Americans deplorable. Believe it or not, but America made the right choice between 2 questionable choices.
David Amos
@LiAngelo Fisher YUP
Andrew Hurrie
I am still in shock that Ontario would even consider Doug Ford as a viable candidate.
Seriously people...it is DOUG FORD!
What are you thinking??
Wake up Ontario!!!
Seriously people...it is DOUG FORD!
What are you thinking??
Wake up Ontario!!!
David Amos
@Robert Langdon "Unfortunately, what are the options? They're not much better."
Methinks most folks think they are worse N'esy Pas?
Methinks most folks think they are worse N'esy Pas?
Arlond Lynds
@Andrew Hurrie
The conservative party no longer exists in Canada, and the republican Party no longer deserves to exist south of the border.
The conservative party no longer exists in Canada, and the republican Party no longer deserves to exist south of the border.
David Amos
@Arlond Lynds Methinks the
"Progressive" Conservative Party was chucked under the bus by Petey Baby
MacKay and his cohorts in 2003 but the far right "Conservative Party
is here to stay for quite awhile even though MacKay and the last of his
old PC his pals quit before the last election N'esy Pas?
Mike McNair
Get out the Vote.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Mike McNair Methinks that is exactly what the folks should do and vote for anyone they wish N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@David Amos
I think you mean n'est-ce pas
N'esy pas is gibberish...
I think you mean n'est-ce pas
N'esy pas is gibberish...
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks we all
know why I get 5 dislikes while your rather redundant insult gets 5
likes Yet when I reply to you I am usually blocked N'esy Pas?
Patrick Smyth
@John Oaktree
"gibberish..."
David's speciality.
"gibberish..."
David's speciality.
Roy T. Gilroy
@John Oaktree Oh he means messy paw
David Amos
@Patrick Smyth In another thread above you posted "Muted a couple of weeks ago and it has been pure bliss since then."
Methinks it ain't rocket science to figure out your specialty N'esy Pas?
Methinks it ain't rocket science to figure out your specialty N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Roy T. Gilroy Methinks its rather obvious that you and Mr Bennett are the best of buddies N'esy Pas?
Mike McNair
Ford will have his work cut out for him to start bringing businesses and investments back to Ontario.
David Amos
@Mike McNair Methinks if he cuts taxes they will come N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@David Amos
What's the gibberish at the end of your comment?? Does it mean something??
Perhaps you meant n'est-ce pas??
What's the gibberish at the end of your comment?? Does it mean something??
Perhaps you meant n'est-ce pas??
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks I have
explained it at least three times in the past month. If you left
wingers can't recall perhaps you should confer with your friend "mo
bennett"? Trust that he knows the score as he twists it to "messy paws"
N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Mike McNair
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
David Amos
@John Oaktree YUP
Claire Blackstone
CBC headline the day before
the election implies a possible loss for PCs - just to make sure we know
the preference of the "national broadcaster."
David Amos
@Claire Blackstone "CBC headline the day before the election implies a possible loss for PCs"
Methinks its time to sit back and watch the circus and laugh as we wait for the Fat Lady sing a wickedly righteous tune tomorrow night. However I must admit that for once I agree with Wynne in that the best outcome would be a minority mandate but its looks like a big win for Ford N'esy Pas?
Methinks its time to sit back and watch the circus and laugh as we wait for the Fat Lady sing a wickedly righteous tune tomorrow night. However I must admit that for once I agree with Wynne in that the best outcome would be a minority mandate but its looks like a big win for Ford N'esy Pas?
John Oaktree
@Claire Blackstone
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
From: Rob Kov
@John Oaktree lying to the public about politics on a national news station isn't a freedom of speech issue, its a journalistic integrity issue.
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinks you are being far to redundant in order to bury the words of other folks N'esy Pas?
bill chagwich
Ford has his work cut out, with the debt that Wynne has left, by the way Horwath wants to continue
David Amos
@bill chagwich "Ford has his work cut out, with the debt that Wynne has left"
Methinks that is an understatement He is gonna have a lot of nightmares to deal with if he wins N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is an understatement He is gonna have a lot of nightmares to deal with if he wins N'esy Pas?
Pierre Elliott
The CBC should have to go offline 72 hours before an election. The bias is thick.
David Amos
@Pierre Elliott Methinks that may be the understatement of the evening N'esy Pas?
Rod Figueroa
Go Ford!
mo bennett
@Rod Figueroa STOP FORD WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA!
David Amos
@mo bennett Methinks that you are the dude being stopped a lot tonight N'esy Pas?
Bert van
steve wilson
Jackie Claxton
Stevie B. White
Ken Parker
Dave Lang
Bert van
Time to sign off. They are holding back any comments that don’t support Ford.
David Amos
@Bert van "They are holding back any comments that don’t support Ford"
Methinks that thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Methinks that thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
steve wilson
Hey kids, don't forget, "Just say no to Dougs"
james shabot
@steve wilson
Glad the adults will be voting
Glad the adults will be voting
David Amos
@james shabot Me Too
Jackie Claxton
Another example of where,
under First Past the Post, the percentage of votes bear little relation
to the number of seats in the legislature and a minority of voters will
impose their ideology on the majority.
Jackie Claxton
@Stevie B. White "Didn't see Liberals complaining about it in the last 15 years until now."
And you won't, not now, or ever... it suits them as much as the conservatives.
And you won't, not now, or ever... it suits them as much as the conservatives.
David Amos
@Jackie Claxton Oh So True
Stevie B. White
If the OLP would have stayed
in the political center instead of stealing and implementing NDP left of
center policies, we probably wouldn't have a strong PC majority today.
David Amos
@Stevie B. White Perhaps
Ken Parker
There is only one choice and it is neither of the Socialist parties. The province can't afford the NDP or Liberals.
Bert van
@Ken Parker Wait for a couple years of a Ford government and see what’s left.
David Amos
@Bert van I agree
Dave Lang
So true Klaus: The CBC is
definitely aligned with the Cons and the Libs. They continually
represent neo-liberal economic views and seldom interview Social
Democrats or give them much air time. They claim to be non bias but it
is obvious to some of us who are looking for alternative views and ideas
that this is not the case.
David Amos
@Dave Lang Methinks you are not reading the same CBC news items I am N'esy Pas?
Maintained
by CBC poll analyst Éric Grenier, the Poll Tracker aggregates all
publicly available polling data to follow the trends of the June 7th
election.
Doug Ford promised to deliver the GTA for the Ontario PCs and that's what he did
PCs made gains in the GTA, limiting the NDP's growth in the decisive battleground
Doug Ford's Progressive Conservatives won Thursday's election
in Ontario thanks to significant increases in support across the
province. But the Greater Toronto Area played the biggest part in
pushing the party over the top.
It was also the GTA that kept the New Democrats from making the breakthrough the party was looking for.
With 40.6 per cent of the vote, the Progressive Conservatives won 76 seats — well above the 63-seat threshold needed for a majority government and the most seats the party has won since Mike Harris's victory in 1995.
Andrea
Horwath's NDP had a strong showing by the standards of the party. The
NDP and its Co-operative Commonwealth Federation predecessor had
only formed the Official Opposition in the province four times
previously — and only twice captured more than 30 per cent of the vote.
With 33.7 per cent and 40 seats, Horwath is responsible for the NDP's second best result ever.
The Liberals fell to an all-time low, with just seven seats and 19.3 per cent of the vote.
But the story of the PC victory was in the efficiency of the party's vote and its success in taking advantage of the Liberal collapse where it mattered most — in the seat count.
Compared to where the party stood at dissolution (and taking into account the increase in the electoral map from 107 to 124 seats), the PCs gained 41 seats. Nearly all of them were won in Toronto and the surrounding suburbs.
In Toronto itself, Ford's PCs picked up 10 more seats thanks to a nine percentage point increase in support. That put the party in second place in the city with 33 per cent — roughly equal to Ford's performance in the 2014 mayoral election — and allowed them to tie the NDP in total seat wins at 11.
In the Greater Toronto Area, a ring of communities around the city running from Durham in the east to Halton in the west, the PCs gained 23 seats and 13 points, dominating the region with 46 per cent of the vote and 26 of the 30 seats up for grabs.
The party picked up eight seats in the rest of the province, half of them in eastern Ontario. But those wins weren't needed — the seat gains in Toronto and the GTA were more than enough to secure a majority government.
The NDP had success in expanding its support in Toronto, finishing first with 36.5 per cent — a gain of 15 points. It's the first time the New Democrats have won the popular vote in the provincial capital since 1990. By night's end, voters in Toronto delivered nine new seats to the NDP.
But the party was not able to make the same kind of breakthrough anywhere else in Ontario.
This is the 2018 Ontario election in 90 seconds. 1:27
The nine gains in Toronto matched the party's total gains in the rest of the province. Despite the NDP increasing its support provincewide by 10 percentage points — more than the PCs' nine-point gain — it was unable to turn that new enthusiasm for the party into many victories at the riding level.
In Mississauga, the NDP saw its support jump by 10 points. But the PCs saw support increase by 13 points and swept the city. Both parties made a 12-point gain in Scarborough, but the PCs were rewarded with three more seats in the area, while the NDP could content itself with just one.
Ontario
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath delivered the party's second-best performance
in history, but New Democrats were hoping for more. (Peter Power/Canadian Press)
It
was the same story in Ottawa, where a 16-point bump for the New
Democrats resulted in only one more seat. The PCs lost two points in the
city, but matched the NDP for seat gains thanks to the fall in Liberal
support.
An inefficient vote for the New Democrats wasn't the only problem. The margin between the PCs and the NDP provincewide was seven points — far too wide when a victory was not even in the cards for the New Democrats had the party been tied with the PCs in the popular vote.
Instead, the momentum that pushed Horwath into contention petered out by the end of the campaign.
In fact, the final polls conducted in the last hours before voting began showed the New Democrats slipping back. Had the campaign ended a week earlier, the NDP might have had a better chance at winning.
It was always going to be a long night for the Liberals.
The best-case scenario was the party holding onto eight seats — the bare minimum needed to retain official party status in the Ontario Legislature, which awards parties more resources and speaking time in question period.
Though Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne, dethroned as premier, was re-elected in her own riding, the party fell one seat short of its goal and was handed its worst defeat since Confederation. It won eight seats in 1951 under Walter Thomson and 21.8 per cent in 1923 under Wellington Hay.
Wynne's performance sets a new low in the historical record.
The Liberals almost managed to hang on to that coveted eighth seat. Just 81 votes cost the Liberals the riding of Thunder Bay – Atikokan, votes that will prove costly when the party's budget at Queen's Park is slashed.
The Ontario Liberals under Kathleen Wynne had a terrible showing, the worst since Confederation. (Tijana Martin/Canadian Press)
The
Green Party, on the other hand, can call it a good night even with
victory in just one riding — the first seat in the province in party's
history.
This was an entirely local victory, however. In his second run at the riding, Green Leader Mike Schreiner was elected in Guelph with a 26-point improvement on his 2014 result. But the Greens had no other successes. Provincewide, their vote share actually fell by a tenth of a percentage point.
Following the model used with some success by its provincial and federal cousins in British Columbia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island, the Greens focused on getting the party leader elected.
The gamble paid off for Schreiner, but nowhere else did the party finish better than third place.
And what of the polls?
Pollsters who stayed in the field to the last moment had the best results, but broadly speaking, the PCs slightly outperformed the polling, while the NDP largely fell short of its numbers. The Liberals and Greens did about as expected, while all of the results fell within the confidence intervals of the CBC Poll Tracker.
Public opinion surveys effectively told the story of the rise of the NDP, the decline of the Liberals and the potential that Ford's PCs had for a big majority — a potential that was realized in dramatic fashion on Thursday.
It was also the GTA that kept the New Democrats from making the breakthrough the party was looking for.
With 40.6 per cent of the vote, the Progressive Conservatives won 76 seats — well above the 63-seat threshold needed for a majority government and the most seats the party has won since Mike Harris's victory in 1995.
With 33.7 per cent and 40 seats, Horwath is responsible for the NDP's second best result ever.
The Liberals fell to an all-time low, with just seven seats and 19.3 per cent of the vote.
But the story of the PC victory was in the efficiency of the party's vote and its success in taking advantage of the Liberal collapse where it mattered most — in the seat count.
Toronto, GTA gave Ford his majority
Compared to where the party stood at dissolution (and taking into account the increase in the electoral map from 107 to 124 seats), the PCs gained 41 seats. Nearly all of them were won in Toronto and the surrounding suburbs.
In Toronto itself, Ford's PCs picked up 10 more seats thanks to a nine percentage point increase in support. That put the party in second place in the city with 33 per cent — roughly equal to Ford's performance in the 2014 mayoral election — and allowed them to tie the NDP in total seat wins at 11.
In the Greater Toronto Area, a ring of communities around the city running from Durham in the east to Halton in the west, the PCs gained 23 seats and 13 points, dominating the region with 46 per cent of the vote and 26 of the 30 seats up for grabs.
The party picked up eight seats in the rest of the province, half of them in eastern Ontario. But those wins weren't needed — the seat gains in Toronto and the GTA were more than enough to secure a majority government.
NDP picks up votes — but not enough seats
The NDP had success in expanding its support in Toronto, finishing first with 36.5 per cent — a gain of 15 points. It's the first time the New Democrats have won the popular vote in the provincial capital since 1990. By night's end, voters in Toronto delivered nine new seats to the NDP.
But the party was not able to make the same kind of breakthrough anywhere else in Ontario.
CBC News Toronto
2018 Ontario election in 90 seconds
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The nine gains in Toronto matched the party's total gains in the rest of the province. Despite the NDP increasing its support provincewide by 10 percentage points — more than the PCs' nine-point gain — it was unable to turn that new enthusiasm for the party into many victories at the riding level.
In Mississauga, the NDP saw its support jump by 10 points. But the PCs saw support increase by 13 points and swept the city. Both parties made a 12-point gain in Scarborough, but the PCs were rewarded with three more seats in the area, while the NDP could content itself with just one.
An inefficient vote for the New Democrats wasn't the only problem. The margin between the PCs and the NDP provincewide was seven points — far too wide when a victory was not even in the cards for the New Democrats had the party been tied with the PCs in the popular vote.
Instead, the momentum that pushed Horwath into contention petered out by the end of the campaign.
In fact, the final polls conducted in the last hours before voting began showed the New Democrats slipping back. Had the campaign ended a week earlier, the NDP might have had a better chance at winning.
Liberals, Greens make different kinds of history
It was always going to be a long night for the Liberals.
The best-case scenario was the party holding onto eight seats — the bare minimum needed to retain official party status in the Ontario Legislature, which awards parties more resources and speaking time in question period.
Though Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne, dethroned as premier, was re-elected in her own riding, the party fell one seat short of its goal and was handed its worst defeat since Confederation. It won eight seats in 1951 under Walter Thomson and 21.8 per cent in 1923 under Wellington Hay.
Wynne's performance sets a new low in the historical record.
The Liberals almost managed to hang on to that coveted eighth seat. Just 81 votes cost the Liberals the riding of Thunder Bay – Atikokan, votes that will prove costly when the party's budget at Queen's Park is slashed.
This was an entirely local victory, however. In his second run at the riding, Green Leader Mike Schreiner was elected in Guelph with a 26-point improvement on his 2014 result. But the Greens had no other successes. Provincewide, their vote share actually fell by a tenth of a percentage point.
Following the model used with some success by its provincial and federal cousins in British Columbia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island, the Greens focused on getting the party leader elected.
The gamble paid off for Schreiner, but nowhere else did the party finish better than third place.
And what of the polls?
Pollsters who stayed in the field to the last moment had the best results, but broadly speaking, the PCs slightly outperformed the polling, while the NDP largely fell short of its numbers. The Liberals and Greens did about as expected, while all of the results fell within the confidence intervals of the CBC Poll Tracker.
Public opinion surveys effectively told the story of the rise of the NDP, the decline of the Liberals and the potential that Ford's PCs had for a big majority — a potential that was realized in dramatic fashion on Thursday.
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'Magic' of simple message, simple strategy led to Ford victory
PCs benefited from a voting public tired of Liberals, still skeptical of NDP
He may be polarizing to a significant segment of voters, have run a messy campaign and come with his own political baggage, but Progressive Conservative Leader Doug Ford may just have been the "ideal candidate" to win this Ontario election.
This assessment comes not from a conservative political partisan, but from Don Guy, veteran Liberal political campaign strategist, former campaign director and former chief of staff to Liberal ex-premier Dalton McGuinty.
"I think he was the ideal candidate because he gave small-c conservative voters a very comfortable home, a very comfortable archetype and a very strong message," he said.
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Ford, as well, was able to capitalize on Ontario voters who may have had no love for him, but remained somewhat skeptical of the NDP.
But Ford's majority win was also a vindication for his team against the naysayers, including some in his own party, who believed his rise to the leadership doomed their chances.
In the end, his controversial years by the side of his brother Rob Ford during his reign as mayor, scandals over party nominations, last-minute headlines about legal disputes with his brother's widow — none of it had enough impact to curb his path to victory.
'He came across as sensible'
"I think the fact that he came across as sensible during the debates really helped him a lot," said Kathy Brock, a political scientist at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont.
"He didn't get upset during them. It was a very controlled campaign. He was very much in control as well.
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Ford's control, says Brock, also served to counter the image his opponents tried to create, that he was a radical, hard-right conservative and Donald Trump clone.
None of Trump's xenophobia
While there may be similarities with Trump in terms of populist appeal, Ford, like his brother, had made significant inroads into various ethnic communities in Toronto, and his campaign has none of the xenophobia attached to the U.S. president's, said Brock.
And like his brother, Doug Ford portrayed himself as a tax-cutting warrior, a fiscal conservative who believes governments waste too much taxpayers' money.
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Ford said he would cut taxes, cut the price of gas, cut hydro rates, cut the price of beer and eliminate the deficit while spending billions on transit and infrastructure projects.
"So you know those are tangible deliverables that one could imagine people are attracted to."
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Finding 'efficiencies'
Yet Ford's go-to explanation, simply that he would find "efficiencies" in government, may have resonated with voters.
"People do see government as being wasteful in some ways. Everybody's got a story about that. So that kind of hits home," said Brock.
Indeed, the imprecision of the policy platform was designed to keep the different coalitions within that party together and the different voting coalitions together without getting pinned down on anything that's too specific, said Cristine de Clercy, a political science professor at Western University in London, Ont.
Imprecision doesn't hurt
"Clearly that that didn't substantially hurt them, it was a viable decision," said de Clercy. "If you think you're going to win, why basically give your opponents the opportunity to attack your plan?"
Ford's campaign, put together relatively last minute following the sudden departure of former leader Patrick Brown, was by normal standards, disorganized and slow, not at all what one would expect from the party, said Jonathan Malloy, chair of the political science department at Carleton University.
Chaotic, maybe, but ultimately simple and effective, said Guy.
'The magic of it'
"That was the magic of it. The simplicity of the message, simplicity of the strategy, everybody could understand it."
The winning strategy, Guy says, was simply to take the angry rural conservative base that's been building over the last four elections and add the established voting pool made up of Ford Nation, that core group of supporters in Toronto who were faithful to former mayor Rob Ford and were the key to his one-term rule.
Some believed Christine Elliott may have been a stronger, safer candidate who appealed to other voters and demographics not enamoured of Ford. But Guy said the strategy the party implemented would not have been readily available to her, meaning no one can say whether Elliott would have made an even better showing.
"They would have had to invent a whole new wheel."
Despite Ford's victory, Siemiatycki noted the strong showing of the NDP and the seats won in different pockets of Ontario.
"This was not a Ford landslide romp to victory," he said. "Among all the Ontarians who voted in this election, the majority did not support Mr. Ford. So it's not like there is this massive groundswell of attachment to Mr. Ford."
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Doug Ford leads Ontario PCs to majority government, CBC News projects
PCs have secured more than 63 seats, Greens elect first MPP in Guelph
· CBC News · Posted: Jun 07, 2018 7:29 PM E
Led by Doug Ford, Ontario's Progressive Conservatives have secured a majority government, CBC News projects, ending nearly 15 years of Liberal power in the province.
The NDP will form the province's Official Opposition, while the governing Liberals were handed a substantial rebuke from voters, losing the vast majority of their seats at Queen's Park.
Buoyed by Ford — a one-term Toronto city councillor and businessman — the PCs ran a populist campaign long on commitments but short on fiscal details, promising a tax cut for the middle class and corporations and a drastic reduction in the price of hydro and gasoline.
"My friends, this victory belongs to you. This victory belongs to the people. And tonight, the people of Ontario have spoken," Ford said in a victory speech to supporters at an event in Toronto.
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Ford won his seat in Etobicoke North, the symbolic heartland of "Ford Nation," the catch-all term for the unwavering, core supporters of late former mayor Rob Ford, Doug Ford's brother.
In his victory speech, Ford became emotional as he thanked his brother.
While results are still being tabulated, the PCs have made significant gains in the 905 region and the GTA, areas that are critical to the political landscape in Ontario because the number of seats that are concentrated within them.
"Tonight we have a sent a clear message to the world: Ontario is open for business," Ford said.
As was expected, NDP Leader Andrea Horwath held onto her seat in Hamilton Centre, where she has served as an MPP since 2004. Heading into election day, polls suggested that the NDP had a slim chance of eking out a win, but now it appears they will form the Official Opposition.
"Together, we won more seats than we have held in a generation. And I am deeply humbled that Ontarians have asked us to serve as the new Official Opposition."
While the surge in NDP support suggested by polls before election day didn't quite materialize, the results represented a marked turnaround for a party that has consistently found itself in third place since Bob Rae's government was defeated in 1995.
Meanwhile, in a historic first for Ontario, Green party Leader Mike Schreiner has won a seat in Guelph.
Wynne resigns as Liberal leader
Wynne, Ontario's first female and openly LGBT premier, is locked in a tight battle for her riding of Don Valley West. The incumbent Liberals, who enjoyed a majority since 2014, are hoping to avoid electoral humiliation but appear on the verge of a stunning collapse. The party needs at least eight seats to maintain official party status at Queen's Park
Several Liberal cabinet ministers have lost their seats, including Charles Sousa, Yasir Naqvi, Steven Del Duca and Glenn Thibeault.
Last weekend, Wynne took the extraordinary step of admitting publicly that she would not be Ontario's premier after the vote. Conceding defeat, she encouraged voters to elect Liberals to ensure the next government is kept "in check."
"This is not a concession speech — I conceded days ago. This is my chance to say thank you for allowing me to be premier, allowing me to connect with so many of you the last five years" Wynne told supporters.
She announced that she will resign as leader of the Liberal party, effective immediately.
"There is another generation, and I am passing the torch to that generation," Wynne said as she fought back tears.
The PCs' election victory comes after a memorable and at-times vicious campaign that proved difficult for Ford and some of his candidates. What began as a commanding lead in public opinion polls steadily narrowed over the month-long campaign.
Ford, unaccustomed to the scrutiny that a provincial campaign draws, faced down multiple controversies and alleged scandals.
Three days before the election, the widow of his late brother, former Toronto mayor Rob Ford, sued the Tory leader. The suit claims Ford withheld money from her and her two children, and that Ford's Toronto- and Chicago-based businesses are bleeding money.
He was also the only party leader not to release a fully costed platform during the campaign.
Under Ford, the PCs recaptured the province they have not led since 2003, overcoming the failings of the past three elections that saw them unable to defeat the Liberals. In some cases those campaigns were sunk before they barely got off the ground with promises to fund religious schools or cut 100,000 public sector jobs.
Ford took the reins of the party less than three months ago, winning the leadership race on the third ballot after former leader Patrick Brown abruptly resigned.
A total of 124 ridings were contested in this election, with at least 63 required to secure a majority government.
Latest polls and projections
Updated on June 06, 2018Poll averages
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GRN
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NDP49
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Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning a majority
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Probability of the Progressive Conservatives winning the most seats but not a majority
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Doug
Ford's PCs have inched ahead of Andrea Horwath's New Democrats in the
polls, but despite the close race in the popular vote the PCs have a
better regional distribution of that vote and so are heavily favoured to
win more seats. The NDP's forward momentum appears to have stalled. It
is no coincidence that the Liberal slide has also slowed, leaving the
party with just enough support to be competitive in a handful of
ridings.
Ontario voters head to the polls after roller-coaster election campaign
After 15 years of Liberal governments, Ontario appears poised for a big change
Voters in Ontario will elect a new government today after a campaign that has pitted Doug Ford's Progressive Conservatives against Andrea Horwath's NDP amid controversy and volatile swings in public opinion polls.
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Heading into today, CBC's Poll Tracker suggests that despite a tumultuous several weeks for Ford on the campaign trail, the PCs could be set for a majority government. There are 124 ridings being contested this year, up from 107 in 2014, meaning 63 seats are required for a majority.
If advance polls are any indication, turnout could be higher this year than in 2014, when only 51.3 per cent of registered voters cast a ballot. According to Elections Ontario, some 768,895 people have already voted, a 19 per cent increase over the previous election.
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When the legislature was dissolved, Kathleen Wynne's Liberals held 55 seats. But the Liberal leader had record-low approval ratings, and her campaign has been unable to turn the tide. The Liberals are now desperately trying to secure at least eight seats, the minimum number required to retain official party status.
The governing party's brand has become so toxic that some of its candidates have opted to use campaign literature and signs that do not prominently display the traditional Liberal red or the party's logo.
During the four-week campaign, which included three televised debates, the leaders have travelled around the province. On the eve of the election, though, Wynne, Horwath and Ford all made stops in the suburban Toronto 905 region. That was not a coincidence, as the region is critical to electoral victory. Home to 47 of Ontario's 124 seats, it will likely decide whether the next government is a majority.
When the campaign formally began on May 9, the Liberal and PC war rooms looked ready to do battle, each laser-focused on the rival leader. But as Liberal support evaporated and Wynne's message of "care over cuts" floundered, the PCs and NDP turned their fire on each other.
Ford is the only leader of a major party who did not release a fully costed platform, despite repeated promises dating back to March that he would.
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With a day to go, Ontario election is still Doug Ford's to lose
PCs began the campaign as favourites to win and remain so today, but much has changed
On the first day of the Ontario
election campaign, the race was Doug Ford's to lose. On the last day of
the campaign, it remains the PC leader's race to lose — and he might
just avoid doing that.
With less than 24 hours to go before the polls open and voters begin casting their ballots, the opinion polls show that the Progressive Conservatives are holding on to their slim lead over Andrea Horwath's New Democrats. And because of how the vote is projected to break down across the province, that likely is enough to give the PCs a majority government.
But
it isn't a sure bet. A number of factors could conspire to prevent the
PCs from attaining the 63 seats needed to form a majority government.
The odds of that happening are low, but this has been a campaign full of
surprises.
As of the morning of June 6, the CBC Poll Tracker — an aggregation of all publicly available polling data — suggests the PCs have about 38 per cent support. That's just enough to keep them ahead of the New Democrats, who stand at 36.5 per cent.
(The Poll Tracker will be updated with the final polls of the campaign as they are published — see here for the latest numbers.)
It's a far closer race than when the campaign began. The margin between the PCs and the New Democrats has shrunk by 13 points, as the PCs have dropped three points in the Poll Tracker over the course of the campaign while the NDP has soared by 10.
Recent Forum and Pollara polls have found that Doug Ford's unfavourable ratings with voters approach those of Kathleen Wynne. (Geoff Robins/Canadian Press)
The
New Democrats were able to take some support away from the PCs, but the
bulk of their gains came from the Liberals. At 19.1 per cent, Kathleen
Wynne's party has plummeted seven points to what would be the worst
performance in the party's history if the numbers are replicated when
the votes are tabulated Thursday night.
The Greens have held steady at five per cent, but leader Mike Schreiner could make history himself by pulling off an upset in the riding of Guelph.
But this portrait has been in freeze-frame for two weeks now; since the May 24 update of the Poll Tracker, the PCs and NDP have been within two points of one another without exception.
The polls have been very consistent on this score, with no disagreements that cannot be explained away by normal sampling errors. It looks like a close race. Still, it might not turn out that way when the votes are turned into seats.
The Poll Tracker seat projection currently estimates that the most likely outcome for the PCs is 73 seats, well over the threshold for a majority government. Taking into account past polling errors and the imprecision of the seat projection model, the PCs could win between 54 and 86 seats — a range that is comfortable for the PCs and their majority prospects, but not a certainty.
More Ontarians had a positive view of the NDP's Horwath than a negative one, according to Forum and Pollara polls. (Galit Rodan/Canadian Press)
The
New Democrats are projected to win between 38 and 63 seats, with 50
seats being the best guess. That gives them some overlap with the PCs,
but requires that current polls overestimate PC support significantly,
with virtually all of that error going in the NDP's direction rather
than toward the Liberals.
Wynne has admitted already she won't be winning the election. But she does need to ensure her party reaches the bar of eight seats to retain official party status. The seat projection model thinks the Liberals could win as many as 11 seats — and as few as zero.
With the current likeliest outcome for the Liberals being one seat, that suggests the odds are better than not that the party will fall short of eight seats.
But all politics being local — and Wynne's admission included a plea for voters to elect Liberal MPPs in some ridings — there is the potential for the Liberals to out-perform expectations in a few seats.
That the PCs are able to win many more seats than the NDP with only slightly more votes is due to the relative inefficiency of the NDP's support and the manner in which the first-past-the-post electoral system can reward a party that has even a modest lead in the popular vote.
The PCs are ahead in eastern Ontario and in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region, two regions that could get the PCs most of the way to a majority government on their own. The party could win more than two-thirds of the seats in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region with just 40 per cent of the vote, despite being barely ahead of the NDP. It could win three-quarters of the seats in eastern Ontario with the same 40 per cent vote share.
The New Democrats lead in Toronto and are narrowly ahead in southwestern Ontario, but are poised to win about as many seats as the PCs in these two parts of the province.
Wynne's party faces what would be the worst performance in its history if poll numbers are replicated in voting Thursday. (Andrew Ryan/Canadian Press)
Only
in northern Ontario might the NDP's vote be efficient — delivering as
much as 85 per cent of the region's seats with just 45 per cent of the
vote. It doesn't help much, however, as there are only 13 seats in
northern Ontario.
For this reason, the Poll Tracker estimates that the PCs have an 87 per cent chance of winning a majority government with these levels of support, with the NDP's chances being just six per cent. The odds of a minority government — about seven per cent — are low due to the Liberals not winning enough seats to make a minority government mathematically likely.
But changing turnout patterns could turn the projections on their head, making the NDP vote more efficient and the seat gap narrower than expected. The NDP's historic rise in the polls makes this possible if voters come out in unpredictable places. But how likely is that?
Polls suggest that the PCs are more likely to benefit from the turnout than the New Democrats. A poll by Léger has found that the PCs hold a six-point edge among voters 55 and older, a cohort that traditionally votes in large numbers. The same poll found the NDP ahead by four points among voters between the ages of 18 and 34, a group that has low turnout rates.
Both Pollara and Abacus Data found the PCs leading among votes already cast, with the PCs ahead by seven and four points, respectively, among Ontarians who voted in the advance polls. Those are ballots already in the system and counted, rather than hypothetical future votes that have yet to be cast.
But in the last provincial election in 2014, pollsters experimented with turnout models in an effort to avoid a repeat of the polling miss in British Columbia the previous year. And in every single case, the likely voter models did worse than a standard weighting to the general population.
Turnout was supposed to benefit the Ontario PCs in 2014 and give Tim Hudak a chance of winning. Instead, the PCs under-performed their polls and the Liberals won a majority government.
The roller coaster final days of the campaign have also injected a degree of uncertainty. Wynne's admission of defeat and plea for the election of enough Liberal MPPs to keep the PCs or the NDP to a minority government hasn't had an impact on the polls, but it could have an influence on local races.
Recently, Renata Ford — widow of Doug Ford's late brother Rob — went public with a lawsuit claiming a lack of support for her bereaved family and bad management of the family firm under Doug Ford. The allegations — which have not been proven in court, and which Ford denies — could undermine the PC leader's already waning popularity.
Forum and Pollara have recently found Ford's unfavourables approaching those of Wynne. Forum put the number of Ontarians disapproving of Ford at 55 per cent, just 10 points below Wynne's score, while Pollara also found 55 per cent of respondents reporting negative views of Ford — just three points below Wynne.
In both polls, more Ontarians had a positive view of the NDP's leader than a negative one.
There is also a significant portion of the electorate that remains undecided, ranging as low as six to seven per cent (Léger and Mainstreet, respectively) and as high as 12 to 14 per cent (Pollara and Abacus). If those undecideds swing disproportionately to the NDP or the PCs, it could have a big impact on a close race.
Nevertheless, Doug Ford and the PCs retain significant advantages and are the favourites to secure a majority government going into election day, a position they have never given up from Day 1.
But keeping an eye on the final polls of the campaign is still a good idea — electoral law in Ontario allows for the reporting of new opinion surveys up until Wednesday night. Over the past four weeks, the Ontario election campaign has been full of surprises and has changed quickly. There's no reason it should be any different in the last 36 hours.
With less than 24 hours to go before the polls open and voters begin casting their ballots, the opinion polls show that the Progressive Conservatives are holding on to their slim lead over Andrea Horwath's New Democrats. And because of how the vote is projected to break down across the province, that likely is enough to give the PCs a majority government.
As of the morning of June 6, the CBC Poll Tracker — an aggregation of all publicly available polling data — suggests the PCs have about 38 per cent support. That's just enough to keep them ahead of the New Democrats, who stand at 36.5 per cent.
(The Poll Tracker will be updated with the final polls of the campaign as they are published — see here for the latest numbers.)
It's a far closer race than when the campaign began. The margin between the PCs and the New Democrats has shrunk by 13 points, as the PCs have dropped three points in the Poll Tracker over the course of the campaign while the NDP has soared by 10.
The Greens have held steady at five per cent, but leader Mike Schreiner could make history himself by pulling off an upset in the riding of Guelph.
But this portrait has been in freeze-frame for two weeks now; since the May 24 update of the Poll Tracker, the PCs and NDP have been within two points of one another without exception.
The polls have been very consistent on this score, with no disagreements that cannot be explained away by normal sampling errors. It looks like a close race. Still, it might not turn out that way when the votes are turned into seats.
PCs favoured in number that counts
The Poll Tracker seat projection currently estimates that the most likely outcome for the PCs is 73 seats, well over the threshold for a majority government. Taking into account past polling errors and the imprecision of the seat projection model, the PCs could win between 54 and 86 seats — a range that is comfortable for the PCs and their majority prospects, but not a certainty.
Wynne has admitted already she won't be winning the election. But she does need to ensure her party reaches the bar of eight seats to retain official party status. The seat projection model thinks the Liberals could win as many as 11 seats — and as few as zero.
With the current likeliest outcome for the Liberals being one seat, that suggests the odds are better than not that the party will fall short of eight seats.
But all politics being local — and Wynne's admission included a plea for voters to elect Liberal MPPs in some ridings — there is the potential for the Liberals to out-perform expectations in a few seats.
NDP vote looks inefficient, but is it?
That the PCs are able to win many more seats than the NDP with only slightly more votes is due to the relative inefficiency of the NDP's support and the manner in which the first-past-the-post electoral system can reward a party that has even a modest lead in the popular vote.
The PCs are ahead in eastern Ontario and in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region, two regions that could get the PCs most of the way to a majority government on their own. The party could win more than two-thirds of the seats in the GTA-Hamilton-Niagara region with just 40 per cent of the vote, despite being barely ahead of the NDP. It could win three-quarters of the seats in eastern Ontario with the same 40 per cent vote share.
The New Democrats lead in Toronto and are narrowly ahead in southwestern Ontario, but are poised to win about as many seats as the PCs in these two parts of the province.
For this reason, the Poll Tracker estimates that the PCs have an 87 per cent chance of winning a majority government with these levels of support, with the NDP's chances being just six per cent. The odds of a minority government — about seven per cent — are low due to the Liberals not winning enough seats to make a minority government mathematically likely.
But changing turnout patterns could turn the projections on their head, making the NDP vote more efficient and the seat gap narrower than expected. The NDP's historic rise in the polls makes this possible if voters come out in unpredictable places. But how likely is that?
Turnout could favour PCs, but …
Polls suggest that the PCs are more likely to benefit from the turnout than the New Democrats. A poll by Léger has found that the PCs hold a six-point edge among voters 55 and older, a cohort that traditionally votes in large numbers. The same poll found the NDP ahead by four points among voters between the ages of 18 and 34, a group that has low turnout rates.
Both Pollara and Abacus Data found the PCs leading among votes already cast, with the PCs ahead by seven and four points, respectively, among Ontarians who voted in the advance polls. Those are ballots already in the system and counted, rather than hypothetical future votes that have yet to be cast.
But in the last provincial election in 2014, pollsters experimented with turnout models in an effort to avoid a repeat of the polling miss in British Columbia the previous year. And in every single case, the likely voter models did worse than a standard weighting to the general population.
Turnout was supposed to benefit the Ontario PCs in 2014 and give Tim Hudak a chance of winning. Instead, the PCs under-performed their polls and the Liberals won a majority government.
Events and undecideds
The roller coaster final days of the campaign have also injected a degree of uncertainty. Wynne's admission of defeat and plea for the election of enough Liberal MPPs to keep the PCs or the NDP to a minority government hasn't had an impact on the polls, but it could have an influence on local races.
Recently, Renata Ford — widow of Doug Ford's late brother Rob — went public with a lawsuit claiming a lack of support for her bereaved family and bad management of the family firm under Doug Ford. The allegations — which have not been proven in court, and which Ford denies — could undermine the PC leader's already waning popularity.
Forum and Pollara have recently found Ford's unfavourables approaching those of Wynne. Forum put the number of Ontarians disapproving of Ford at 55 per cent, just 10 points below Wynne's score, while Pollara also found 55 per cent of respondents reporting negative views of Ford — just three points below Wynne.
Significant portion undecided
In both polls, more Ontarians had a positive view of the NDP's leader than a negative one.
There is also a significant portion of the electorate that remains undecided, ranging as low as six to seven per cent (Léger and Mainstreet, respectively) and as high as 12 to 14 per cent (Pollara and Abacus). If those undecideds swing disproportionately to the NDP or the PCs, it could have a big impact on a close race.
Nevertheless, Doug Ford and the PCs retain significant advantages and are the favourites to secure a majority government going into election day, a position they have never given up from Day 1.
But keeping an eye on the final polls of the campaign is still a good idea — electoral law in Ontario allows for the reporting of new opinion surveys up until Wednesday night. Over the past four weeks, the Ontario election campaign has been full of surprises and has changed quickly. There's no reason it should be any different in the last 36 hours.
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Green Leader Mike Schreiner 'cautiously optimistic' he'll win in Guelph
'Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values,' Schreiner says
· The Canadian Press · Posted: Jun 06, 2018 1:12 PM ET
Mike Schreiner cannot walk the streets of downtown Guelph, Ont., without being stopped to talk politics.
"Good job Mike," one man says as he slaps the Green party leader on the back.
"We're working hard, eh!" the 48-year-old U.S.-born politician responds with a laugh. "Make sure you vote, no matter who it is."
"I'm voting for you," the man says.
Schreiner talks and walks fast. He's got his messaging down, his enthusiasm up.
"The Liberal vote is collapsing in Guelph," Schreiner says.
"I'm also finding a lot of Conservatives coming our way as well and it's mostly driven by Doug Ford. I've had so many Conservatives in Guelph come up and say 'I won't vote for a Doug Ford-led Conservative party."'
In the 2014 election, Schreiner, who has led the provincial Greens since 2009, finished third with 19.29 per cent of the vote, just 1.5 percentage points behind the Progressive Conservative candidate, who is also not running this time, and ahead of the NDP.
"I'm cautiously optimistic we're going to elect our first Green MPP," Schreiner says as he canvasses his riding, where he lives in a modest semi-detached house with his wife and two teenage daughters.
A few years ago, Schreiner moved from Toronto to Guelph, where he has been working for decades. The city is ripe for a Green representative, he says. It's replete with clean-tech startups and a city council focused on renewable energy and protecting its water.
"Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values," he says.
Ontario Green Party Leader Mike Schreiner gets set to make a policy announcement in his home riding of Guelph, Ont., on May 25. (Kenneth Armstrong/Canadian Press)
His supporters are people of all ages and political stripes. At 70 years old, Elaine Duignan says she's volunteering for the first time with a political party. She's been an NDP supporter, but has fallen in love with Schreiner and his policies.
"I love his honesty, his integrity, his community involvement," says Duignan as she strolls around Guelph clad head-to-toe in green.
"You know it's hard to meet an honest politician."
"I haven't ever voted Green and that's mostly because I didn't ever really think they had a chance," Rogers says.
"Now that they do have a shot, it would be really nice to have Green win Guelph — but I'm not 100 per cent decided."
Schreiner is a known commodity in Guelph, through owning various small food businesses — his first was an organic food distribution operation.
Locally, people know the Greens are about more than just saving the planet, he says, but across the province there is still the preconceived notion that the party only cares about the environment.
"The perception of the party once was that we hug trees, wear Birkenstocks and smoke cannabis," he says. "I really changed the brand of the party as a small business owner and an environmentalist at the same time."
Some of his policies are obvious. He wants Ontario to move to 100 per cent renewable energy and wants to close the nuclear energy plant in Pickering. But others reflect realities in urban areas like Guelph. He'd roll mental health coverage into the Ontario Health Insurance Plan and he'd implement a basic income program.
Mike Schreiner walks down the street in Kitchener after his campaign launch earlier this month. (Emily Fearon/CBC)
Once
a month, Schreiner and his team help serve breakfast at Lakeside HOPE
House, a community centre that helps low-income and homeless people.
The centre hosted an all-candidates meeting last week, in which there was one rule — no mud slinging. Schreiner and the other candidates representing the NDP, the Liberal party, the Communist party and the None of the Above party took time to praise each other.
It fits with Schreiner's style, who has vowed publicly to avoid running a negative campaign.
"People are saying they're just sick and tired of the three parties, all the political spin, all the vague answers, all the attack ads, so here in Guelph, I think that's partially why I'm getting so much support," he says.
"Who knows, maybe we can break through in Guelph and one or two other ridings," he adds, "because I would sure like some company at Queen's Park."
"Good job Mike," one man says as he slaps the Green party leader on the back.
"We're working hard, eh!" the 48-year-old U.S.-born politician responds with a laugh. "Make sure you vote, no matter who it is."
"I'm voting for you," the man says.
Schreiner talks and walks fast. He's got his messaging down, his enthusiasm up.
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"The Liberal vote is collapsing in Guelph," Schreiner says.
"I'm also finding a lot of Conservatives coming our way as well and it's mostly driven by Doug Ford. I've had so many Conservatives in Guelph come up and say 'I won't vote for a Doug Ford-led Conservative party."'
'Cautiously optimistic'
In the 2014 election, Schreiner, who has led the provincial Greens since 2009, finished third with 19.29 per cent of the vote, just 1.5 percentage points behind the Progressive Conservative candidate, who is also not running this time, and ahead of the NDP.
"I'm cautiously optimistic we're going to elect our first Green MPP," Schreiner says as he canvasses his riding, where he lives in a modest semi-detached house with his wife and two teenage daughters.
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A few years ago, Schreiner moved from Toronto to Guelph, where he has been working for decades. The city is ripe for a Green representative, he says. It's replete with clean-tech startups and a city council focused on renewable energy and protecting its water.
"Guelph is leading in so many areas that reflect the Green party's values," he says.
Greens 'have a shot'
His supporters are people of all ages and political stripes. At 70 years old, Elaine Duignan says she's volunteering for the first time with a political party. She's been an NDP supporter, but has fallen in love with Schreiner and his policies.
"I love his honesty, his integrity, his community involvement," says Duignan as she strolls around Guelph clad head-to-toe in green.
"You know it's hard to meet an honest politician."
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"I haven't ever voted Green and that's mostly because I didn't ever really think they had a chance," Rogers says.
"Now that they do have a shot, it would be really nice to have Green win Guelph — but I'm not 100 per cent decided."
Changed party brand
Schreiner is a known commodity in Guelph, through owning various small food businesses — his first was an organic food distribution operation.
Locally, people know the Greens are about more than just saving the planet, he says, but across the province there is still the preconceived notion that the party only cares about the environment.
"The perception of the party once was that we hug trees, wear Birkenstocks and smoke cannabis," he says. "I really changed the brand of the party as a small business owner and an environmentalist at the same time."
Some of his policies are obvious. He wants Ontario to move to 100 per cent renewable energy and wants to close the nuclear energy plant in Pickering. But others reflect realities in urban areas like Guelph. He'd roll mental health coverage into the Ontario Health Insurance Plan and he'd implement a basic income program.
The centre hosted an all-candidates meeting last week, in which there was one rule — no mud slinging. Schreiner and the other candidates representing the NDP, the Liberal party, the Communist party and the None of the Above party took time to praise each other.
"People are saying they're just sick and tired of the three parties, all the political spin, all the vague answers, all the attack ads, so here in Guelph, I think that's partially why I'm getting so much support," he says.
"Who knows, maybe we can break through in Guelph and one or two other ridings," he adds, "because I would sure like some company at Queen's Park."
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