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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-foreign-trained-nurses-1.5404639
Foreign-trained nurses frustrated by registration process
Some nurses give up on New Brunswick and move to Quebec for paid internships
CBC News · Posted: Dec 22, 2019 8:00 AM AT
Thibaut Hehlen, left, and Charlotte Binetruy say they spent thousands of dollars trying to obtain nursing certification for Binetruy and got nothing in return. (Nicolas Steinbach/Radio-Canada)
Some nurses who trained and worked in foreign countries say they have given up their plans to resettle in New Brunswick because of difficulties getting accredited.
Radio-Canada spoke with six nurses who moved to New Brunswick and intended to work in their field.
Only one of them has completed the certification process, and several ended up moving to Quebec.
Here are a few of their stories.
Charlotte Binetruy
Charlotte Binetruy, 31, was a nurse in Switzerland for eight years. She was recruited for her skills and chose to settle in New Brunswick with her family. She had a job offer at the hospital in Edmundston.
Binetruy said she took a competency test and was told by the Nurses Association of New Brunswick she needed a little upgrading to meet provincial standards. But she said the 35 hours of training she needed was only available over a period of 13 months.
That was too long a time to go without an income, she said, while she also faced major expenses such as buying a house.
"I totally understand that you have to upgrade," Binetruy said. "We're coming from Europe to North America. The medications aren't the same. The procedures are different. It's not exactly the same role.
"What I question is the program that's offered."
Despite all that, Binetruy was still going to proceed with the training, until she found out in August 2018 that the upgrading courses she needed had been suspended indefinitely because of a lack of funding.
Binetruy and Hehlen were planning to settle in Edmundston but ended up moving to Lac-Mégantic, Que. (Nicolas Steinbach/Radio-Canada)
"We were just about to leave for Canada. Our immigration was ready. Our permanent residency was coming. We had sold our apartment in France. We got rid of all our things. I had turned down jobs in Switzerland."
In June, she and her family moved to Lac Mégantic, Que., where she began a 75-day paid internship. She was accredited in October.
Quebec has a skills agreement with France that has seen more than 1,500 nurses licensed in that province since 2011.
Binetruy and her husband said they have not completely given up on New Brunswick, but they'll be staying in Quebec, at least so their son can finish the school year.
They remain bitter about their experience with New Brunswick.
"It cost us between $6,000 and $7,000," said Thibaut Hehlen, Binetruy's husband.
"That's wasted money that got us nothing at all. We're still waiting for answers from New Brunswick. If they don't have an offer for us, we'd at least like to have our money back."
Laïla Sahnoune
Laïla Sahnoune, 41, was a home-care nurse in France for 18 years. She arrived in Moncton in August 2018, with her daughter and her sister's family.
"I was chosen for my degree. Since there was a nursing shortage in New Brunswick, that was on the list of professions in demand."
Sahnoune paid $700 to a regulatory agency in Philadelphia to have her skills assessed. The agency lost some of the documents she sent by registered mail. She had to resend them.
She was told she needed six weeks of training to become a licensed practical nurse.
Laïla Sahnoune says that as a single-parent she couldn't afford to take six weeks off work to complete the upgrading she needed to become a licensed practical nurse. (Nicolas Steinbach/Radio-Canada)
"I had to say no. Because with pay of $11 an hour, it wasn't possible. I have my daughter to feed. I can't afford to take that big a step back."
Sahnoune worked in a daycare in the Moncton area for almost a year.
Then, like Binetruy, she found out the upgrading courses she needed had been suspended.
She became discouraged by the slow process and left for Sorel-Tracy, Que., in June, where she's now licensed.
"We're staying here now," Sahnoune said. "I'm not going back to New Brunswick, even if my sister is there."
"I'm so disappointed and tired."
Sahnoune said New Brunswick should have its own program like the one Quebec has with France.
"One wonders why they're not doing anything. Why don't they use the experience of the province next door to see how they could adapt it for New Brunswick?"
Émilie Labat
Émilie Labat, 37, is originally from Belgium, where she worked as a nurse for 15 years at the Queen Fabiola university hospital.
She arrived in Moncton in February 2017 with her husband and three children.
It took 20 months, but Labat did finally get her certification from the New Brunswick Nurses Association.
She felt like she had no other option but to stick it out. There's no agreement between Quebec and Belgium.
Labat now works at the Dr.-Georges-L.-Dumont hospital.
Émilie Labat says she feels cheated after spending at least $12,000 and 20 months to become a registered nurse in New Brunswick. (Nicolas Steinbach/Radio-Canada)
But she still feels cheated by the process of becoming a nurse in New Brunswick.
"Just in fees, we must have paid around $12,000 or more," said Labat.
"They bring you here and tell you you can't work. It's going to take at least a year and a half or two years before you can work. Meanwhile, all we want to do is continue our career and have a normal life. We're using up our savings because we don't have the work we're supposed to have."
Nurses' association responds
The NANB declined to be interviewed for the Radio-Canada report but issued a statement afterwards.
It said the registration process in New Brunswick is similar to all other provinces except Quebec, and it noted not all of the six nurses in question had not applied for registration in New Brunswick.
The NANB confirmed there was a six-month period in 2018 during which the upgrading program had no co-ordinator. But it said courses resumed in January 2019.
Upgrading courses for nurses were unavailable for six-months in 2018. (Nicolas Steinbach/Radio-Canada)
The association has begun a review of the registration process for internationally educated nurses, said executive director Laurie Janes, and is helping to develop a provincially based education program.
Health authority urges action
The head of the Vitalité Health Network said aggressive action is needed to help foreign-trained nurses stay in New Brunswick.
The province is going to need an estimated 1,300 new nurses by the end of the next decade.
Nursing staff shortages have already forced temporary closures of several units at several hospitals.
Gilles Lanteigne said a program is in the works to help foreign-trained doctors transition to the New Brunswick workforce.
He said nurses are an even bigger health-care priority.
Over the past four years, the national nursing assessment service has processed 124 advisory reports from registered nurses abroad seeking to work in New Brunswick. Of these, the New Brunswick Nurses Association received 36 applications for registration and only six nurses completed the process.
Unacceptable, says premier
New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs called the situation "unacceptable."
"[The nursing shortage] is an issue that concerns me greatly," said Higgs, adding he had discussed the issue with the prime minister this week.
The province appointed a special adviser in May to try to resolve issues faced by internationally trained nurses. Radio-Canada attempted to contact him, but he did not reply.
Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour Minister Trevor Holder said he is working on the issue. He said he was open to exploring the models implemented by neighbouring provinces, including Quebec.
With files from Nicolas Steinbach, Radio-Canada and Information Morning Moncton
41 Comments
David Raymond Amos
Methinks the "Powers That Be" have known about this issue for many years and have done nothing for no reason I will ever understand A nurse from New Zealand whose hubby was playing politics in NB a few years ago told me her story and was considering going home. I suggested they give up on the system buy an old farm and open an old folks home. I may need a place to stay someday N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Bottom line David: money.
A contributing factor is the election cycle. Elections are, for the most part, on a 4 year cycle. If you make improvements to a department where the results are different than the 4 year election cycle, there is no election mileage to be had, so the focus is on programs that give results within the election cycle.
Bottom line David: money.
A contributing factor is the election cycle. Elections are, for the most part, on a 4 year cycle. If you make improvements to a department where the results are different than the 4 year election cycle, there is no election mileage to be had, so the focus is on programs that give results within the election cycle.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/british-nurse-provincial-strategy-1.5236194
'A lot of torment': A nurse from England awaits certification in New Brunswick
'I did know that it was going to be a long process'
Pascia
Birch graduated from a nursing program in England and has been waiting a
year and a half to get certified to work in New Brunswick. (Submitted by Pascia Birch)
While the provincial government's new nursing strategy aims to hire 130 nurses each year for the next decade, one nurse from abroad living in Fredericton has been waiting over a year to work in her field.
The new strategy focuses on attracting and accommodating internationally trained nurses and providing better education opportunities for nursing students at home.
Pascia Birch graduated from a nursing program in England and then moved to Fredericton. She's been waiting a year and a half to work as a nurse in New Brunswick.
She first had to have documents sent to Philadelphia for a report detailing her qualifications and experience. She said that took six months. It was then sent to the Nurses Association of New Brunswick.
"After
the documents came to New Brunswick unfortunately there was another
six-month delay where I didn't hear anything from the nurses association
or anything concrete in terms of what my application was doing, because
it was actually on hold," Birch said.
So far she's spent about $5,000 trying to get certified.
"I did know that it was going to be a long process. I just didn't know that it was going to turn out the way it has with some unforeseen delays and really sort of a lot of torment."
While the provincial government's new nursing strategy aims to hire 130 nurses each year for the next decade, one nurse from abroad living in Fredericton has been waiting over a year to work in her field.
The new strategy focuses on attracting and accommodating internationally trained nurses and providing better education opportunities for nursing students at home.
Pascia Birch graduated from a nursing program in England and then moved to Fredericton. She's been waiting a year and a half to work as a nurse in New Brunswick.
She first had to have documents sent to Philadelphia for a report detailing her qualifications and experience. She said that took six months. It was then sent to the Nurses Association of New Brunswick.
So far she's spent about $5,000 trying to get certified.
"I did know that it was going to be a long process. I just didn't know that it was going to turn out the way it has with some unforeseen delays and really sort of a lot of torment."
Shift - NB
British nurse welcomes provincial strategy to hiring more people like herself
8:25
Following that there are either a series of courses or the official nursing exam for New Brunswick.
Birch started the process in February 2018, and said the stalled process just got moving again in February 2019.
Now she still isn't scheduled for the exam, but said "everything is really hopeful at the moment." She hopes she'll be able to take the exam early next year.
$2.3 million to implement strategy
Department of Health spokesperson Bruce Macfarlane said Tuesday $2.3 million has been allocated to implementing the strategy as part of the 2019-20 budget.
Some of that money will be used for an assessment and bridging program for nurses like Birch. That will include a "navigator" who will help out-of-country nurses register and go through the certification process, as well as look for ways to streamline the process.
In July, Trevor Holder, minister of post-secondary education, training and labour, and Health Minister Ted Flemming announced a 10-year nursing strategy. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)
The province currently has 8,000 nurses. Horizon Health Network said in early June there are 200 permanent full and part-time vacancies at Horizon hospitals across the province.
Health Minister Ted Flemming said Tuesday the shortage has caused multiple closures.
Cautiously optimistic
Despite the delays, Birch said her experience is considered good compared to some.
"Other nurses that I've spoken to who are from countries such as the Philippines have been doing this process since 2016. One of them started in October 2016 and she's at the same point that I'm at now."
She said it's been difficult to hear about struggles with hospital staffing and nursing shortages in the province while she waits to be allowed to work.
She said she understands why nurses must go through the process to make sure they are ready to work in the province, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating.
She said the strategy unveiled by the province last week is a great start and she's cautiously optimistic about how effective it will be. She doesn't expect improvements to come quickly.
"But I think eventually we can improve the process for everyone."
With files from Shift
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-poorest-province-equalization-payments-1.5400170
'Tough to take': New Brunswick grabs unwanted title as Canada's poorest province
Province will begin receiving most equalization funding per capita
· CBC News · Posted: Dec 18, 2019 5:30 AM AT
New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves welcomes the $187 million in extra equalization funding he will get from Ottawa for his budget next year, but is unhappy his province needs more assistance than any other province. (CBC)
New Brunswick has officially assumed the title of Canada's poorest province and will begin receiving the most funding per capita from the federal government's equalization support program, starting in April.
The bottom ranking and the poor economic numbers that caused it are unlocking significant new federal financial support for New Brunswick, but that is cold comfort for ending the longtime reign of Prince Edward Island as Canada's neediest province, according to New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves.
"Wow. That's tough to take," said Steeves in an interview Tuesday.
"When your transfer payments go up, it's a sign your economy is weak. I'm not crazy about that. We want New Brunswick to be a have province, not a have-not province."
Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau met with provincial ministers and finance officials this week. His department released figures showing New Brunswick would receive the highest per-capita amount of equalization payments next year, replacing P.E.I. as Canada's most have-not province. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
The federal Finance Department released figures late Monday of what equalization-receiving provinces will qualify for in funding next year.
New Brunswick's share is jumping 9.2 per cent to $2.21 billion, the largest increase among receiving provinces.
The new amount is calculated by Ottawa to be worth $2,826 per person in New Brunswick, the most ever paid to a province, and a razor-thin $1 per person more than P.E.I. will receive.
It's a remarkable turnaround for both provinces.
Last
year, P.E.I. received $65 per person more in equalization than New
Brunswick and, as recently as three years ago, was receiving $301 per
person more — a sign of how quickly P.E.I.'s economy has closed in and,
for its size, surpassed New Brunswick's.
Equalization is a $20.6-billion federal program designed to help poorer provinces provide comparable levels of service to citizens at similar levels of taxation to richer provinces.
Payments are determined by a complex mathematical formula that measures the revenue-generating ability of each province against a national standard. Those with a below average ability to raise money for themselves qualify for funding.
New Brunswick will receive a record $2.21 billion in equalization funding from Ottawa next year to pay for basic government services, like heath care and education, that it cannot afford to pay for on its own. Pictured is the Saint John Regional Hospital. (Wikipedia)
Quebec receives the most money from the program — $13.25 billion next year — but at $1,547 per person in Quebec, it's 45 per cent less than what New Brunswick will get.
Equalization amounts per person:
Trevor Tombe, an economics professor at the University of Calgary and one of Canada's leading experts on equalization, said the $187-million jump in New Brunswick's equalization allotment next year is remarkable, but the causes will take some time to analyze.
"The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see what's driving that specific change."
The equalization formula uses three years of data and, according to Tombe, next year's payments are based on provincial economic performance recorded between April 2016 and March 2019.
New
Brunswick's GDP growth over those three years was an estimated 3.7 per
cent. That's the weakest among equalization-receiving provinces, less
than the national average and well below the 10 per cent growth recorded
in P.E.I..
New Brunswick has long vowed to get itself off equalization. In 2006, former premier Shawn Graham set a "self-sufficiency" goal to be free of equalization payments by 2026. Instead amounts owing to New Brunswick have grown by $900 million, including by $550 million in just the last three years.
Steeves said being a "have" province is still New Brunswick's goal even though, as Canada's poorest provincial jurisdiction now, the need for equalization is undeniable.
"We want to be the ones that help everybody else, but right now we do need the help," said Steeves.
"We're trying to get our debt back in place where it should be and get it lowered so that we won't need as much help. But right now we are reliant on Canada and Canadians."
David Raymond Amos
Methinks Bill Morneau a clever beancounter who married into one of New Brunswick's wealthiest Clans is wondering why everybody is not Happy Happy Happy after he promised to send us more money proportionally than anyone else in Canada will get because of the failings of his local liberal buddies N'esy Pas?
Hugh MacDonald
New Brunswick maybe the poorest province in Canada but it does have two of the richest families in Canada i.e. the Saint John-based Irving family and the McCain family of Florenceville, both worth many $billions.
David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
Omer Samson
I know! NB could make everything it possibly can to bypass and alienate neighbouring Quebec! Has that strategy ever been tried before?
David Raymond Amos
Johnny Jakobs
When you need two of everything, this is the result.
Lewis Taylor
Sharon Caswell
Irving.
David Raymond Amos
Edmund Bourque
What's the game plan here, folks? The only viable option looks like natural resource extraction...
Ben Haroldson
Lets annex the U.S.
David Raymond Amos
Wally E. Bamberger
""The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see what's driving that specific change."
... Should be very interesting ...
Pack up everybody in the Province and relocate us to the golden triangle somewhere between Toronto and Windsor might do the trick.
More realistic ... CP Rail's recent announcement of its intention to reclaim much of it's trackage between Montréal and Maine would look good on the Province's resumé.
David Raymond Amos
Greg Miller
So now the poorest province in Canada and we pay the second highest income taxes in Canada. Doesn't seem like the perfect "mix" to attract newcomers--for that matter why are WE here?
Lewis Taylor
I guess the Higgs "Do nothing" strategy is actually contributing to economic prosperity in a negative way. It proves that saying "NO" to everything does not improve the situation and actually worsens it because others keep moving past you. At least we are first in something...federal welfare handouts... which is probably why he was actually civil with the PM.
Steve Gordon
Mike Bookman
You can start by getting Irving to pay back the $40billion in taxes they stole from the province since 1972. That would be a good start.
Justin Time
The size of Government and it's reckless spending habits need to be brought under control. We have a province with a population less than a lot of larger cities in the country yet we have a government bureaucracy so blotted and reckless with tax dollars that we will never climb out of debt if we continue on the current path. Doesn't matter which party is in power. There should be solid guarantees of return on investment for every dollar the province spends instead of throwing money at the wall and hoping some of it sticks.Giveaways to friends of the government and to companies that can well afford to spend their own money have to stop. Taxpayers are fed up with government waste and will continue to show dissatisfaction at the polls.The days of large majority governments are over until they start showing responsible fiscal management. Cynicism with government is at an all time high and with good reason.
Terry Tibbs
Absolutely outstanding job you are doing for (on?) us Mr Higgs.
Make your moms proud.
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks all my political foes understand why the longer I listened to the Green Meanie Leader yap on CBC the more I considered running against him in the next election and why I posted only one comment N'esy Pas?
#nbpoli #cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/david-coon-basic-income-guarantee-1.5400458
· CBC News · Posted: Dec 18, 2019 12:19 PM AT
New Brunswick's Green Party Leader David Coon said basic income guarantee should replace social assistance. (Logan Perley/CBC)
New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon would like to see a basic income guarantee replace the province's social assistance program which has led to "government enforced poverty."
"It's a different kind of social assistance system, that's for sure. It's simpler," Coon said in an interview with Information Morning Moncton.
"It doesn't have the clawbacks. It doesn't have these awful rules that really bind people in poverty and prevent them from getting ahead in any way."
Coon tabled a bill on Tuesday that would amend the Family Income Security Act, which provides funding to people who can't support themselves financially.
David Coon is New Brunswick's Green Party Leader. 9:45
Coon
said he'd like to adjust the act to "promote and provide income
security, combat poverty in the province, and ensure that applicants and
recipients are treated with dignity and respect."
He'd also like the act to allow the social development minister to form an agreement with the federal government to provide a basic income guarantee for New Brunswickers.
"I think it's something we need to experiment with here and see if it's the way we can really move people out of poverty," he said.
Coon said people who rely on social assistance receive $537 a month — a number that hasn't changed since 2014. He said it's not enough to cover housing, food, transportation and other basic necessities.
Shawn McShane
The poorest province in the country yet we need to squeeze $100 Million more for pilfer meters.
Jeff Leblanc
And we have a former morning radio guy running our finances. Does CBC have a facepalm emoji?
Jeff Leblanc
Costs $85 million a year to provide bilingualism in NB. Might be time to scrap it and the rest of you learn the language. Marc Martin and Anne Berube you can post your rebuttal anytime now, can't
David Lutz
Yup, that "official Bilingual province" is really paying off for us. Still costing millions but know one talks about the elephant in the room.
New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves welcomes the $187 million in extra equalization funding he will get from Ottawa for his budget next year, but is unhappy his province needs more assistance than any other province. (CBC)
New Brunswick has officially assumed the title of Canada's poorest province and will begin receiving the most funding per capita from the federal government's equalization support program, starting in April.
The bottom ranking and the poor economic numbers that caused it are unlocking significant new federal financial support for New Brunswick, but that is cold comfort for ending the longtime reign of Prince Edward Island as Canada's neediest province, according to New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves.
"Wow. That's tough to take," said Steeves in an interview Tuesday.
"When your transfer payments go up, it's a sign your economy is weak. I'm not crazy about that. We want New Brunswick to be a have province, not a have-not province."
Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau met with provincial ministers and finance officials this week. His department released figures showing New Brunswick would receive the highest per-capita amount of equalization payments next year, replacing P.E.I. as Canada's most have-not province. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
The federal Finance Department released figures late Monday of what equalization-receiving provinces will qualify for in funding next year.
New Brunswick's share is jumping 9.2 per cent to $2.21 billion, the largest increase among receiving provinces.
A sign of the times
The new amount is calculated by Ottawa to be worth $2,826 per person in New Brunswick, the most ever paid to a province, and a razor-thin $1 per person more than P.E.I. will receive.
It's a remarkable turnaround for both provinces.
Equalization is a $20.6-billion federal program designed to help poorer provinces provide comparable levels of service to citizens at similar levels of taxation to richer provinces.
Payments are determined by a complex mathematical formula that measures the revenue-generating ability of each province against a national standard. Those with a below average ability to raise money for themselves qualify for funding.
New Brunswick will receive a record $2.21 billion in equalization funding from Ottawa next year to pay for basic government services, like heath care and education, that it cannot afford to pay for on its own. Pictured is the Saint John Regional Hospital. (Wikipedia)
Quebec receives the most money from the program — $13.25 billion next year — but at $1,547 per person in Quebec, it's 45 per cent less than what New Brunswick will get.
Equalization amounts per person:
- New Brunswick: $2,826
- Prince Edward Island: $2,825
- Nova Scotia. $2,184
- Manitoba: $1,815
- Quebec: $1,547
New Brunswick hike 'stood out,' says prof
Trevor Tombe, an economics professor at the University of Calgary and one of Canada's leading experts on equalization, said the $187-million jump in New Brunswick's equalization allotment next year is remarkable, but the causes will take some time to analyze.
"The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see what's driving that specific change."
The equalization formula uses three years of data and, according to Tombe, next year's payments are based on provincial economic performance recorded between April 2016 and March 2019.
New Brunswick has long vowed to get itself off equalization. In 2006, former premier Shawn Graham set a "self-sufficiency" goal to be free of equalization payments by 2026. Instead amounts owing to New Brunswick have grown by $900 million, including by $550 million in just the last three years.
Steeves said being a "have" province is still New Brunswick's goal even though, as Canada's poorest provincial jurisdiction now, the need for equalization is undeniable.
"We want to be the ones that help everybody else, but right now we do need the help," said Steeves.
"We're trying to get our debt back in place where it should be and get it lowered so that we won't need as much help. But right now we are reliant on Canada and Canadians."
852 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.David Raymond Amos
Methinks Bill Morneau a clever beancounter who married into one of New Brunswick's wealthiest Clans is wondering why everybody is not Happy Happy Happy after he promised to send us more money proportionally than anyone else in Canada will get because of the failings of his local liberal buddies N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks its interesting that the Spin Doctors permitted me to have the last word N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @David
Raymond Amos: OPPS Methinks they will be overjoyed that I am wrong this
comment section closes at 5 30 AM not PM N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I am not permitted to correct my own goof? Now thats funny
Bob Gillis
It's like the "leading cause of death among.. (take your pick)" stories.
Doesn't something have to be the poorest in a list of 10? Disparity would be a more honest approach.
Doesn't something have to be the poorest in a list of 10? Disparity would be a more honest approach.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Bob Gillis: As far as I know the leading cause of death is old age
David Raymond Amos
Methinks everybody is enjoying the circuses in Ottawa and Fat Fred City this week N'esy Pas?
Hugh MacDonald
New Brunswick maybe the poorest province in Canada but it does have two of the richest families in Canada i.e. the Saint John-based Irving family and the McCain family of Florenceville, both worth many $billions.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Hugh
MacDonald: Methinks everybody knows the spraying of glyphosate over the
rest of us support the continued growth of the wealth of both Clans
N'esy Pas?
Hugh
MacDonald
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
And buying products such as Irving fuels and McCain french fries helps their growth.
And buying products such as Irving fuels and McCain french fries helps their growth.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Hugh MacDonald: They sell their products in far bigger markets than New Brunswick
David Raymond Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David
Raymond Amos: "The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that
stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see
what's driving that specific change."
Yea Right
Yea Right
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David
Raymond Amos: Methinks Tombe should compare the performance of two Cash
Cows NB Power and Hydro-Québec, then ask himself why the Crown Corp in
NB is NOT audited by our Auditor General and two auditing firms like
they do in Quebec and why Higgy and his minions want to spend 100
million loonies we don't have on "Not So Smart" Meters N'esy Pas?
Brett Blaikie
Reply to @David
Raymond Amos: and why Quebec's electricity exports are not considered
"income" for the purposes of calculating equalization payments...
David Raymons Amos
Reply to @Brett Blaikie: We export electricity too
Omer Samson
I know! NB could make everything it possibly can to bypass and alienate neighbouring Quebec! Has that strategy ever been tried before?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Omer Samson: Methinks you must be a big fan of a cartoon show that been on TV for 30 years N'esy Pas?
Johnny Jakobs
When you need two of everything, this is the result.
Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs:
it is what happens when the focus is hate and bigotry rather than synergy and focus
it is what happens when the focus is hate and bigotry rather than synergy and focus
David Allan
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs:
That need is determined by the residents of the province. Over a third of New Brunswickers are French. Since you're complaining, you should learn French and demonstrate the courage of your conviction.
That need is determined by the residents of the province. Over a third of New Brunswickers are French. Since you're complaining, you should learn French and demonstrate the courage of your conviction.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Allan: Methinks every spin doctor in New Brunswick can speak Chiac at the very least N'esy Pas?
Sharon Caswell
Irving.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Sharon Caswell: Well put
Edmund Bourque
What's the game plan here, folks? The only viable option looks like natural resource extraction...
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Edmund Bourque:
We've been doing that for years, trouble is the proceeds seem to go directly to Bermuda.
We've been doing that for years, trouble is the proceeds seem to go directly to Bermuda.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Edmund Bourque: I know my game plan Go Figure
It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do.
Edmund Burke
It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do.
Edmund Burke
Ben Haroldson
Lets annex the U.S.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks thats not a wise thing to state when hero Mr Trump is having a bad day EH?
Wally E. Bamberger
""The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see what's driving that specific change."
... Should be very interesting ...
Pack up everybody in the Province and relocate us to the golden triangle somewhere between Toronto and Windsor might do the trick.
More realistic ... CP Rail's recent announcement of its intention to reclaim much of it's trackage between Montréal and Maine would look good on the Province's resumé.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Wally E. Bamberger: I disagree
Greg Miller
So now the poorest province in Canada and we pay the second highest income taxes in Canada. Doesn't seem like the perfect "mix" to attract newcomers--for that matter why are WE here?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Greg Miller: Methinks it s only fair if we pay so much taxes then we should get a lot back N'esy Pas?
Lewis Taylor
I guess the Higgs "Do nothing" strategy is actually contributing to economic prosperity in a negative way. It proves that saying "NO" to everything does not improve the situation and actually worsens it because others keep moving past you. At least we are first in something...federal welfare handouts... which is probably why he was actually civil with the PM.
Steve Gordon
Reply to @Lewis
Taylor: The calculations for the equalization payment are based on
economic performance between Apr '16-Mar '19, so the blame for this
falls squarely on former premier gallant, and the two finance ministers
of his failed government.
Stephen Robertson
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: careful there Lewis, you are spinning so hard you might topple over
Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Steve Gordon:
Rule 1: always blame predecessor
Rule 2: read rule 1
Rule 1: always blame predecessor
Rule 2: read rule 1
Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Stephen Robertson:
Do you also get confused in a traffic circle?
Do you also get confused in a traffic circle?
Stephen Robertson
Reply to @Lewis
Taylor: no, but your jumping at a chance to throw a dig that doesn't
work based on not having read the story does. It was not this government
who set the parameters of the study. It all involved the time Mr.
Gallant was premier. Sometimes it is better to keep quiet and be thought
a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Stephen Robertson: Methinks he would have no idea what to do if he stopped spinning N'esy Pas?
Mike Bookman
You can start by getting Irving to pay back the $40billion in taxes they stole from the province since 1972. That would be a good start.
Anthony Wright
Reply to @Mike
Bookman: The Liberals, if they had the cahoonas, would close offshoring
immediately. The problem is there are too many wealthy Canadians
financing political parties, preventing the needed tax changes
Stephen Robertson
Reply to @Anthony
Wright: and of course in today's global economy those companies would
just pay up. No thought of moving or anything I'm sure.
Luke Armstrong
Reply to @Mike Bookman:
Good one Mike. I see the city of SJ in dire straights..
Good one Mike. I see the city of SJ in dire straights..
David Allan
Reply to @Anthony Wright:
"The Liberals, if they had the cahoonas, would close offshoring immediately."
Explain what you mean by offshoring and how the federal government can stop it.
Considering that no government has ever done as you expect, why do you single out the Liberals?
"The Liberals, if they had the cahoonas, would close offshoring immediately."
Explain what you mean by offshoring and how the federal government can stop it.
Considering that no government has ever done as you expect, why do you single out the Liberals?
David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @David Allan: Methinks you should check my work dealing with KPMG and their Taxman cohorts since 2002 N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO
Justin Time
The size of Government and it's reckless spending habits need to be brought under control. We have a province with a population less than a lot of larger cities in the country yet we have a government bureaucracy so blotted and reckless with tax dollars that we will never climb out of debt if we continue on the current path. Doesn't matter which party is in power. There should be solid guarantees of return on investment for every dollar the province spends instead of throwing money at the wall and hoping some of it sticks.Giveaways to friends of the government and to companies that can well afford to spend their own money have to stop. Taxpayers are fed up with government waste and will continue to show dissatisfaction at the polls.The days of large majority governments are over until they start showing responsible fiscal management. Cynicism with government is at an all time high and with good reason.
Wally E.
Bamberger
Reply to @Justin
Time: The only spending the government should be involved is on
infrastructure and essential services. Let industry and business fend
for themselves.
Henry Thoreau
Reply to @Wally E.
Bamberger: I expect then, Wally, that you'd agree that we should stop
government subsidies from going to Irving and the natural gas sector?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: I agree
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Wally E. Bamberger: Ditto
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Henry Thoreau: When did you crawl out of your Yankee grave and concern yourself with Maritime politicking?
Terry Tibbs
Absolutely outstanding job you are doing for (on?) us Mr Higgs.
Make your moms proud.
Graeme Scott
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Read the article. This increase is the result of economic
performance from April 2016-March 2019.....the Gallant government was in
charge for 33 of those 36 months.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Graeme Scott: True
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Graeme Scott: Did ya listen to what the local Green Meanie Leader was saying this morning on our airwaves?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/12/david-coon-calls-for-basic-income.html
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/12/david-coon-calls-for-basic-income.html
Sunday, 22 December 2019
David Coon calls for basic income guarantee to replace social assistance
https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks all my political foes understand why the longer I listened to the Green Meanie Leader yap on CBC the more I considered running against him in the next election and why I posted only one comment N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/david-coon-basic-income-guarantee-1.5400458
David Coon calls for basic income guarantee to replace social assistance
Coon tabled a bill on Tuesday that would amend the Family Income Security Act
· CBC News · Posted: Dec 18, 2019 12:19 PM AT
New Brunswick's Green Party Leader David Coon said basic income guarantee should replace social assistance. (Logan Perley/CBC)
New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon would like to see a basic income guarantee replace the province's social assistance program which has led to "government enforced poverty."
"It's a different kind of social assistance system, that's for sure. It's simpler," Coon said in an interview with Information Morning Moncton.
"It doesn't have the clawbacks. It doesn't have these awful rules that really bind people in poverty and prevent them from getting ahead in any way."
Coon tabled a bill on Tuesday that would amend the Family Income Security Act, which provides funding to people who can't support themselves financially.
Information Morning - Moncton
Private member's bill to amend the Family Income Security Act
David Coon is New Brunswick's Green Party Leader. 9:45
He'd also like the act to allow the social development minister to form an agreement with the federal government to provide a basic income guarantee for New Brunswickers.
"I think it's something we need to experiment with here and see if it's the way we can really move people out of poverty," he said.
Coon said people who rely on social assistance receive $537 a month — a number that hasn't changed since 2014. He said it's not enough to cover housing, food, transportation and other basic necessities.
Julie Gaudet, the author of 'Disability and Deep Poverty in
New Brunswick,' said people can't survive on the current monthly
allowance of the social assistance program. (Kate Letterick/CBC News)
"At the very base level, people need enough money to live and they don't have it."
Coon said he doesn't have a set figure of what the basic income guarantee would be, but the amount needs to be raised so people can survive.
The author of "Disability and Deep Poverty in New Brunswick" agrees with Coon. Julie Gaudet said more needs to be done for those living with disabilities who can't work.
In her 2017 report, she suggested implementing an assured income for people with disabilities. Now she's hoping Coon's suggestions will be taken seriously.
"There's a lot of hoops to jump through, [but] once you're at that level you should get enough to cover your basic needs," Gaudet said.
"We're just talking about the minimum of food, housing, transportation — so to me it's quite unacceptable and it should be done now and there's no reason not to do this."
Coon said he doesn't have a set figure of what the basic income guarantee would be, but the amount needs to be raised so people can survive.
The author of "Disability and Deep Poverty in New Brunswick" agrees with Coon. Julie Gaudet said more needs to be done for those living with disabilities who can't work.
In her 2017 report, she suggested implementing an assured income for people with disabilities. Now she's hoping Coon's suggestions will be taken seriously.
Information Morning - Moncton
Assured income for people with disabilities
8:34
Julie Gaudet of Moncton is an advocate for people with disabilities. 8:34
She
said the provincial government spends less on social programs,
something she wants changed so people can live comfortably if they rely
on social assistance."There's a lot of hoops to jump through, [but] once you're at that level you should get enough to cover your basic needs," Gaudet said.
"We're just talking about the minimum of food, housing, transportation — so to me it's quite unacceptable and it should be done now and there's no reason not to do this."
With files from Information Morning Moncton
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David Raymond Amos
Methinks
my political foes should certainly understand why the longer I heard
the Green Meanie Leader yap this morning the more I considered running
against him in the next election N'esy Pas?
Tim Locke
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Non. Shawn McShane
The poorest province in the country yet we need to squeeze $100 Million more for pilfer meters.
Jeff Leblanc
And we have a former morning radio guy running our finances. Does CBC have a facepalm emoji?
Jeff Leblanc
Costs $85 million a year to provide bilingualism in NB. Might be time to scrap it and the rest of you learn the language. Marc Martin and Anne Berube you can post your rebuttal anytime now, can't
wait!
David
Allan
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
Why shouldn't any province serve the needs of their residents?
Are you going to learn Mi'kmaq?
Why shouldn't any province serve the needs of their residents?
Are you going to learn Mi'kmaq?
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @David Allan: not all that bright are ya?
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @David
Allan: nobody "needs" to speak French they choose to. Last time I
checked French is also the minority. Yet nb spends 85 million a year on
said minority.
Art Rowe
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
Bilingualism has contributed zero gain to either Canada or NB. Nothing but a huge cost to garner votes and placate a minority.
Normally countries try to take the path of the most of the world but not us.
Bilingualism has contributed zero gain to either Canada or NB. Nothing but a huge cost to garner votes and placate a minority.
Normally countries try to take the path of the most of the world but not us.
Neil
McPhearson
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: No other province exports more per capita to Quebec than
New-Brunswick, and what language do they speak there? The fact that
services are offered in French in much of the province also attracts a
bunch of Francophone tourists. Do you really think eliminating all
French services in NB will result in a net gain of $85M per year?
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Neil
McPhearson: French government services and road signs do not attract
tourists to NB. They come for the beaches and hospitality. Those beaches
dont speak French. Yet they still come. Hmmm.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Neil McPhearson: wont be necessarily 85 million of net gain but there will be net gain. Any net gain is good.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: NB has been officially bilingual since the '70's because close
to half the population is French. Should all English speakers be forced
to learn French?
Don Cheer
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe:
Conservatives and anti french people want to frame the issue around a single issue yet have no thoughts why Manitoba, NS & PEI are also receiving massive amounts per individual with no bilingualism.
The bilingual discussion is based on bigotry and nothing else
Conservatives and anti french people want to frame the issue around a single issue yet have no thoughts why Manitoba, NS & PEI are also receiving massive amounts per individual with no bilingualism.
The bilingual discussion is based on bigotry and nothing else
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Don Cheer: Agreed ;) but the Irvings are worth more than the McCains ;)
David
Allan
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
"nobody "needs" to speak French they choose to."
The same could be said of any language.
Clearly you're unable to actually address my question.
"nobody "needs" to speak French they choose to."
The same could be said of any language.
Clearly you're unable to actually address my question.
David
Allan
Reply to @Art Rowe:
"Bilingualism has contributed zero gain to either Canada or NB. Nothing but a huge cost to garner votes and placate a minority. "
It recognizes a factual reality.
If you want to disenfranchise a third of the population, disenfranchise yourself.
"Bilingualism has contributed zero gain to either Canada or NB. Nothing but a huge cost to garner votes and placate a minority. "
It recognizes a factual reality.
If you want to disenfranchise a third of the population, disenfranchise yourself.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @David Allan: Good post, David.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: 35 percent are French not half the population. And I'm
probably stretching it. Do some homework before posting. Also this is
North America...which runs on English. Learn it get left in the dust.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @David
Allan: Oh I answered and it went right over your head. French are the
MINORITY. Sooner you grasp that the better off you will be.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Don Cheer:
never said OB is the sole reason for NB going down the toilet. 85
million dollars however is nothing to sneeze at. The only folks who
benefit from OB are francophones. That is a fact.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: English is the majority so we shouldn't be forced to learn
anything. Because we are the MAJORITY. The French can chose to get in
line with us or they can live in a bubble, which they dont...because
most can speak English anyway. Surprized?
Mick Fontana
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Says the guy with a French last name.
Margeurite Deschampes
Reply to @Jeff TheWhite, we hear ya!
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Mick Fontana: yep I'm a self loathing Acadian.
David Allan
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
"Oh I answered and it went right over your head. French are the MINORITY."
Tyranny of the majority is not democracy.
Just because a group is 1/3 of the province doesn't mean they should get ignored or treated harshly or otherwise marginalized.
They're real people.
"Oh I answered and it went right over your head. French are the MINORITY."
Tyranny of the majority is not democracy.
Just because a group is 1/3 of the province doesn't mean they should get ignored or treated harshly or otherwise marginalized.
They're real people.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @David Allan: hahaha "ignored" hahahaha I spit out my water reading that. Thanks for the laugh that made my day :)
David Allan
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: It is not bilingualism that is the problem it is Irving running
all competition out of the Province then not paying their fair share. David Lutz
Yup, that "official Bilingual province" is really paying off for us. Still costing millions but know one talks about the elephant in the room.
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