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Trudeau lays groundwork for never-used Emergencies Act
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The 'measure of last resort': What is the Emergencies Act and what does it do?
Premiers divided on the need for an act that gives Ottawa sweeping crisis powers: sources
Trudeau briefed them on the current state of federal efforts to combat a pandemic that has infected some 2,500 Canadians and shuttered many businesses — leaving more than a million people temporarily unemployed.
Some premiers were eager for a co-ordinated, national response while others were concerned about what invoking the act would mean for local decision making, multiple provincial sources told CBC News after the call.
There was no unanimity among the premiers over whether Ottawa should proceed with the act given the sweeping powers it would grant to the federal government at the expense of the provinces on the frontlines of this pandemic. Provincial and territorial leaders stressed the need for more essential supplies like face masks and coronavirus testing devices.
Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said earlier Monday the Emergencies Act is a "measure of last resort," but it might be required if Canada is to implement some extraordinary measures — beyond existing provincial actions.
Every province has declared a state of emergency already to restrict public movement and close most businesses, along with other restrictions, in an effort to limit the spread of the deadly virus.
"I can tell you that we haven't taken anything off the table — from the Emergencies Act to new measures — or existing measures under the Quarantine Act. They are tools that are at our disposal," Trudeau said.
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Coronavirus outbreak: 'Enough in enough' Trudeau tells Canadians who are flouting social distancing
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"One of the key elements of the Emergencies Act is that it is an override over the provinces. It takes powers that normally are only in the hands of the provinces, or even municipalities, and puts them in the federal level," he said.
Trudeau promised to work closely with the provinces and territories if he takes that step — something the Emergencies Act already demands of Ottawa.
Asked Monday if he thought invoking the act is necessary, Ontario Premier Doug Ford said it's a decision for Trudeau to make.
"Every single province is different, so we want to make sure that we still have the authority to make the decisions that we require for ... the health and the economy in each province," Ford told reporters ahead of the call with Trudeau and other first ministers.
Unprecedented powers
The Emergencies Act, a sweeping piece of legislation passed in 1988 as a replacement for the controversial War Measures Act, has never been used.
The act gives powers to the prime minister to respond to four different types of emergency scenarios: public welfare (natural disasters, disease), public order (civil unrest), international emergencies and war emergencies.
The act grants cabinet the ability to "take special temporary measures that may not be appropriate in normal times" to cope with an emergency and the resulting fallout during an "urgent and critical situation."
It gives cabinet unprecedented powers to assume jurisdiction from the provinces in areas like health and commerce.
Invoking the act might help the federal government close some interprovincial borders to stop the spread of COVID-19 — a measure that would have been almost unimaginable only days ago.
But some provinces, such as Nova Scotia and P.E.I., are already policing land crossings as they order anyone returning from a trip — even a domestic one — to self-isolate for 14 days upon entry.
Officials
stop a vehicle at the Nova Scotia-New Brunswick border on Monday, March
23, 2020 to notify of self-isolation orders that now apply under Nova
Scotia's state of emergency. (Brett Ruskin/CBC)
The Emergencies Act could allow for the creation of travel passes to curtail movement, for example.
The act also grants cabinet powers to evacuate people and remove "personal property from any specific area," acquire property, direct any person or any class of person to "render essential services," regulate "distribution and availability of essential goods, services and resources," authorize "emergency payments," establish shelters and hospitals and impose criminal sanctions.
The act allows the federal government to essentially nationalize parts of the economy wherever it thinks it's necessary as cabinet can assume "control, the restoration and maintenance of public utilities and services" to ensure the well-being of Canadians.
Jack Lindsay is a professor in the department of applied disaster and emergency studies at Brandon University in Manitoba and an expert in the country's emergency measures legislation.
Lindsay said he doesn't see the point of invoking federal legislation at a time when the provinces already have their own measures in place to essentially shut down social and economic life in this country.
None of the provinces are looking for an authoritarian central government right now.
- Jack Lindsay, Brandon University
In our federal system of government, with its devolved powers, provinces already have the ability to act, he said.
"The act doesn't really give the federal government a lot of extra new powers that aren't already being exercised by the provinces. All of the provinces already have the ability to commandeer essential resources and supplies," he told CBC News. "None of the provinces are looking for an authoritarian central government right now.
"If I was Justin Trudeau I'd be saying, 'I want to help the provinces coordinate. I don't want to impose a national set of powers on them.' I'm curious to see what they'll do. I just don't see the advantage of that right now."
Lindsay said the act and its powers might be useful later as the pandemic spreads — if some provinces start hoarding medical supplies, for example.
Under the act, Ottawa could redirect masks, ventilators or COVID-19 testing devices from one area of the country to particular "hot spots" in dire need of equipment or supplies. Lindsay also said different "classes of people," like nurses, might be also conscripted to work in other regions.
Enforcement measures for returning travellers
Health Minister Patty Hajdu said Monday the government is considering much more stringent enforcement measures to ensure returning travellers strictly self-isolate at home for at least 14 days to reduce community spread.
Some Canadians have been flouting that rule; police could be called upon to force people to stay home, if necessary. Hajdu also suggested a "hotline" might be established to allow concerned Canadians to report cases of noncompliance.
But local and province police services can only be nationalized in wartime. Such enforcement measures would be left to local peace officers to maintain, Lindsay said.
The federal Quarantine Act, which was updated in 2005 after the deadly SARS outbreak, does give the federal health minister an arsenal of tools to force people to stay home.
Michael Bryant is the executive director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA). He said there is a lot of misinformation floating around about the Emergencies Act.
"I understand they want to hear from the leader of their country but, constitutionally, the federal powers that need to be enacted are being enacted now," he told CBC News, citing the provisions of the Quarantine Act.
"There are no powers under the federal Emergencies Act that need to be invoked right now because they are already being invoked by the provinces and the municipalities."
Unlike the case of the now-defunct War Measures Act — which former prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau invoked during the Front de liberation du Quebec (FLQ) crisis — government can't simply trigger the Emergencies Act without the participation of Parliament.
If an emergency declaration is made, Parliament must be summoned to "sit within seven days after the declaration is issued," a measure added to the act to avoid abuse by the government of the day.
"There's a constitution in place that's going to limit how much provincial, federal or municipal government does to control people and limit civil liberties," Bryant said.
Reported COVID-19 cases by province
As of June 26 at 12:30 p.m. ET
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With files from the CBC's Hannah Thibedeau, Catharine Tunney
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-pandemic-coronavirus-roundup-1.5530695
N. B. COVID-19 roundup: Province announces changes to testing protocols
2 new cases of COVID-19 were announced in New Brunswick on Monday
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 13, 2020 11:34 AM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell said testing protocols for COVID-19 would be
expanded to include those suffering from a number of symptoms including
fever, sore throat and a cough. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
The province's Department of Health has announced changes to testing protocols for COVID-19 in New Brunswick.
Dr.
Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health, announced Monday
that testing would be recommended for people exhibiting at least two of
the following five symptoms:
- Fever above 38 C
- A new cough or worsening chronic cough
- Sore throat
- Runny nose
- Headache
But throughout, community transmission has not been as high as seen in other provinces.
"Our indicators around the percentage of the population that would be affected most severely, we would see those people pop up in the hospital setting and we only have a small number of people hospitalized and in ICU right now.
So we know in other jurisdictions that severely affected percentage usually is a reflection of the total number of cases in the population."
Russell said expanded testing will ensure no one is being missed but added it would be hard to say if more cases of community transmission will be found.
"We're trying to be cautiously optimistic but we don't want to rest on our laurels. We're being prudent with the information we know today and the resources that we have that this is the right direction to go in according to the evolution of the risk."
She confirmed all sentinel testing done to date in hospitals and emergency rooms has resulted in negative test results.
2 new cases
The province has announced two new cases of COVID-19, bringing the total number of cases in New Brunswick up to 116.Dr. Jennifer Russell said one of the new cases is in Zone 3, in the Fredericton area, between the ages of 40 and 49. The second is a person between the ages of 50 and 59 in Zone 5, which is the Campbellton area.
There are 116 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. (CBC)
The number of recoveries hovers around 74 people.
Of the 116 cases, 66 are travel-related, 36 are close contacts of confirmed cases, seven are the result of community transmission and seven remain under investigation.
During the pandemic, 12 people have been hospitalized and seven have since been discharged. Three of the five patients remaining in hospital are in an intensive care unit.
26 tickets issued
This is the first COVID-19 news conference since Russell and Premier Blaine Higgs urged residents to stay home and avoid family gatherings over the Easter weekend.
Premier Blaine Higgs said a total of 17 tickets were issued over the past seven days to people not complying with the emergency order. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
Higgs said the majority of New Brunswickers were doing what
Public Health was asking of them to flatten the curve and slow the
spread of COVID-19.
"A small number of people are still violating the rules," Higgs said.
But the premier said he was still more interested in educating people before giving them a ticket.
"That's not the goal to fine people more. The goal is to have people adhere to the rules now in place."
The premier said it will take two weeks to see if compliance
over the Easter long weekend will help stop the spread of COVID-19.
Higgs also confirmed the province's state of emergency, set to last another week, will continue and will be done in two week increments.
"It'll be a decision that's made collectively by my co-committee colleagues, the leaders of the other parties and my cabinet. But it will be done in two week intervals upon any extension."
"Am I looking for a positive change? Am I hoping for a positive change? Absolutely."
Higgs said if the numbers stay the way they are and the caseloads stay down, he's hopeful it can happen.
"Getting our economy back up and running, it's all about a balance and that's what we're in right now. I'll remain optimistic."
Here is a roundup of other developments.
Staff are receiving ongoing training on the proper use of personal protective equipment.
Nursing home residents with health issues are treated at the nursing home when possible to avoid any unnecessary transfers to hospitals.
Higgs said they are in constant communication with the N.B. Nursing Home Association
"We are continuing to monitor the situation in our nursing homes, and we will take additional measures if needed as the pandemic continues," said Higgs.
In New Brunswick, some of those properties include the Johnson's Mills Shorebird Interpretive Centre near Sackville, the Musquash Estuary Nature Reserve near Saint John and the Grand Manan Migratory Bird Sanctuary
In a release, NCC said while "nature is important in our lives and good for our health and well-being, especially in stressful times", they are asking people to enjoy nature from home.
"Please stay home, and enjoy nature virtually. Watch our website for updates."
While some counsellors have decided to close their offices, others are finding creative ways to work with their clients. This could include everything from online Zoom conferences, creating YouTube channels or simply picking up the phone and having a conversation.
"We're trying to do as much as we can," said Joan Wright, senior psychologist and owner of the Joan Wright & Associates and MindShift clinic in the Fredericton area.
The Canadian Psychological Association is also offering mental health support to front-line health service providers. A number of psychologists from each province have volunteered to provide psychological services to those individuals.
Meanwhile, the Canadian Mental Health Association of New Brunswick is providing a number of free services for people struggling to maintain their mental health during the COVID-19 outbreak.
Those include live webinars about topics such as self-compassion, coping with anxiety, having a healthy work-life balance and talking to children about COVID-19.
The project is called, Dear Rona - Letters from Lockdown.
Higgs also confirmed the province's state of emergency, set to last another week, will continue and will be done in two week increments.
"It'll be a decision that's made collectively by my co-committee colleagues, the leaders of the other parties and my cabinet. But it will be done in two week intervals upon any extension."
Restrictions eased?
Asked what it would take to begin easing restrictions, Higgs said restrictions could be eased or made stronger depending on the level of adherence to government measures and the results of expanded testing for COVID-19."Am I looking for a positive change? Am I hoping for a positive change? Absolutely."
Higgs said if the numbers stay the way they are and the caseloads stay down, he's hopeful it can happen.
"Getting our economy back up and running, it's all about a balance and that's what we're in right now. I'll remain optimistic."
Here is a roundup of other developments.
Nursing home protection
Higgs said caring for seniors remains a priority for the government. Early on, the government closed nursing homes to all visitors. Staff now have to follow a screening process prior to entering work including taking their temperature and answering screening questions.Staff are receiving ongoing training on the proper use of personal protective equipment.
Nursing home residents with health issues are treated at the nursing home when possible to avoid any unnecessary transfers to hospitals.
Higgs said they are in constant communication with the N.B. Nursing Home Association
"We are continuing to monitor the situation in our nursing homes, and we will take additional measures if needed as the pandemic continues," said Higgs.
Nature Conservancy of Canada properties closed
The Nature Conservancy of Canada has closed all its properties to public access and is urging people to stay home.In New Brunswick, some of those properties include the Johnson's Mills Shorebird Interpretive Centre near Sackville, the Musquash Estuary Nature Reserve near Saint John and the Grand Manan Migratory Bird Sanctuary
In a release, NCC said while "nature is important in our lives and good for our health and well-being, especially in stressful times", they are asking people to enjoy nature from home.
"Please stay home, and enjoy nature virtually. Watch our website for updates."
More people seeking mental health support
Since the COVID-19 outbreak first started, counsellors are seeing a jump in new clients looking for emotional support.While some counsellors have decided to close their offices, others are finding creative ways to work with their clients. This could include everything from online Zoom conferences, creating YouTube channels or simply picking up the phone and having a conversation.
"We're trying to do as much as we can," said Joan Wright, senior psychologist and owner of the Joan Wright & Associates and MindShift clinic in the Fredericton area.
The Canadian Psychological Association is also offering mental health support to front-line health service providers. A number of psychologists from each province have volunteered to provide psychological services to those individuals.
Meanwhile, the Canadian Mental Health Association of New Brunswick is providing a number of free services for people struggling to maintain their mental health during the COVID-19 outbreak.
Those include live webinars about topics such as self-compassion, coping with anxiety, having a healthy work-life balance and talking to children about COVID-19.
Theatre company asks for letters from self-isolation
Theatre New Brunswick wants people to share how they're coping with self-isolation during the COVID 19 pandemic.The project is called, Dear Rona - Letters from Lockdown.
We want to
hear from you! Dear Rona – Letters from Lockdown is a new collaborative
creation project inspired by our current state of affairs. Share your
story and help build something special from these uncertain times. https://bit.ly/2XkPEQy #tnbdearrona
9:43 PM - Apr 7, 2020
"Personally I'm getting to sewing projects I always wanted to do … I think a lot of us are doing stuff like that, which is nice," said Natasha MacLellan, Theatre New Brunswick's artistic director.
"Rediscovering your own house. All the books on your bookshelf you thought you would read someday."
The theatre group has plans to use those stories in a future performance project.
People can send their letters to Theatre New Brunswick's address or email dearrona@tnb.nb.ca
What to do if you have symptoms?
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website. Symptoms of coronavirus include fever, a new or worsening cough, and breathlessness, as well as sore throat, headache and runny nose. People with symptoms are asked to:- Stay at home.
- Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions carefully.
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David Amos
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Methinks its too bad so sad that the "Powers That Be" within Higgy's Police State won't permit all the comments to be read N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks somebody should remind Higgy that he has not reversed the "Stay' on my Medicare Card nor has he offered to reimburse me for emergency room bills and doctor fees N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Yeah someone should totally remind him on your behalf. That would mean someone actually cared about your situation.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Clearly you do because of pending litigation
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: How long you been chasing that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow on this endeavor
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
BTW Methinks its comical that you lament today about your comments
against Trudeau going "Poof". Too bad so sad that folks could not read
when I had figured out that you were not TJ yesterday because of your
Freudian Slip However no doubt you read about your faux pas within my
blog N'esy Pas Mr Jones?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
And still , in spite of everyones suggestions , it's still " all about
Dave " !! Time to take a chill pill !
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks I should not be surprised to see that another reply of mine
went "Poof" However I trust that I may rest assured that you and the
RCMP know where to find it N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
What would you do if Higgy denied you Medicare while your friends in
Horizon Health wanted you falsely arrested AGAIN?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
He wouldn't find himself in that situation as they didn't single you
and only you out for this. There is just no way you've got that bad of
luck for all that's happened
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: When everywhere you go you keep smelling sh*t, might be time to check your own boots buddy!
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you should have a long talk to your hero Higgy, and his buddy
Rob Moore ASAP They likely represent you N'esy Pas Mr Jones?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Oh and say Hey to the RCMP for me will ya?
Andrew St.John
What EXACTLY does the test look for?
How many people with other symptoms are deemed to have CV19?
What other ailments did those who died suffer from - or all were labelled CV19?
Did anyone here elect B.Gates to the throne of world health leader?
Is the common cold and seasonal flu now eradicated or just everything is CV19?
Would it be more effective to quarantine and protect the vulnerable only and not the entire population ?
This whole situation reeks of deception and it’s impossible to believe so many people are buying it. Time to get back to work and stop the hysteria over the new boogeyman virus.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Andrew
St.John : Yeah , they " made up " 118 cases to create a panic !!! And ,
by the way , you speak FOR YOURSELF !! No one appointed YOU to speak for
them just in case you didn't know !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Andrew St.John : Ah Andy , and " As The Stomach Churns , " the claims of a conspiract theorist !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks you can tell your cop buddies in Fat Fred City who labeled me
as a conspiracy theorist in 2004 that I want my old Harley back but they
can keep the Yankee wiretap tapes they stole from me in 2007 because
the RCMP and the FBI know I have many more N'esy Pas?
Danny Devo
Is Higgs even conscious during these media events?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Danny Devo:
He's in that "happy place" where he can feel like king Higgs.
He's in that "happy place" where he can feel like king Higgs.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: And who would you appoint to take the crown O chosen one? He's in
a spot no leader in NB has been in our lifetimes. Some easy to sit back
and call the shots behind the keyboard
Rob Mason
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
If Premier Higgs developed a vaccine Mr. Devo would find a partisan
angle and still criticize. Ignore his predictable responses, as most of
us tend to do.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Rob Mason: Head back to drama class hairdo
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Rob Mason: I
agree. The message you saw followed one up where I badmouthed Trudeau
and they keep blocking them. Sorry CBC ain't gonna say nothing nice
about him
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
I was thinking that I have an old dog that hangs around here, she's probably just as smart, and does what she is told. A couple of months at the U of Irving and she will do what they tell her.
I was thinking that I have an old dog that hangs around here, she's probably just as smart, and does what she is told. A couple of months at the U of Irving and she will do what they tell her.
Rock Ouellette
Reply to @Danny Devo: Higgs only thinks about money!!! He cares for nothing!
Toby Tolly
Reply to @Rock Ouellette:
i liked his thinking on the
franc-o-fun games fiasco
i liked his thinking on the
franc-o-fun games fiasco
Rob Mason
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: what a witty retort.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks TJ and your buddy Higgy must have read my latest emails by now N'esy Pas Mr Jones?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Methinks dogs and corrupt cops have a lot in common such as
sniffing each other hind ends but old dogs are far smarter about picking
which one they lick N'esy Pas?
Danny Devo
Yes, all hinges on
our medical system to catch, treat and release. The general public would
otherwise self exterminate due to any lack of any knowledge. You have
to ask yourself. Why is Higgs so intent on dismantling that same
healthcare system while giving corporations massive tax breaks?
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Danny Devo:
"Why is Higgs so intent on dismantling that same healthcare
system"................what a blatantly silly statement. lol
Danny Devo
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Really? Explain ER's being shut down while corporate welfare cases get hundreds of millions in tax breaks?
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Danny Devo:
Who actually PAYS for every single emergency room in NB?? "The
government"??? Well, where does the GOVERNMENT get its money?? From
trees?? From the ECONOMY and people earning paychecks! (By the way, at
least two of those ERs slated to be closed overnight had astoundingly
low numbers of users.........should an ER be kept open overnight if,
let's say, ONE person uses it every night?? Does that make sense?? Where
do you draw the line? Or do you not even believe in lines being drawn?
Consider this: wasting healthcare dollars means...........wait for
it............less money available to fight things such as
PANDEMICS............smh).
Danny Devo
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
What about plundering the province of its wealth, stacking the cash in
foreign bank accounts, head office offshore, and here are the affluent
NBer's giving this filthy rich corporations millions upon millions for
slashing our crown lands and dousing them in carcinogenic chemicals? Is
that what you are for Jim?
john smith
Reply to @Danny Devo:
that is a conflation of two topics that have absolutely nothing to do
with the other bot are important conversations but say you take a stance
on one does not preclude u from taking a different stance on a
completely different topic to think that it does is silly at best
Michael Hatfield
Reply to @Danny Devo:
With all due respect, sir, you're trying to make it sound as though no
other government has ever participated in your grumblings.
Danny Devo
Reply to @Michael Hatfield: Both corporate parties (libs and cons) in NB are a disgrace.
BruceJack
Speculator
Reply to @Danny Devo: did that just start a year ago?
Pat Holland
Reply to @Danny Devo:
You have a great idea tax business to the eye balls, so they do one of two things, massive layoffs or relocate/shutdown. Either throws thousands out of work. Which then reduces the money the government has further.
You have a great idea tax business to the eye balls, so they do one of two things, massive layoffs or relocate/shutdown. Either throws thousands out of work. Which then reduces the money the government has further.
David Amos
Reply to @BruceJack
Speculator: How is your pension investments doing lately? Methinks my
money in CPP is taking a hit but at least your tax funds will keep it
secure N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Hopefully people did what they should have been doing , isolating and social distancing. There'll always be a few ignorant naysayers , yet they appear to be few and far between t, thank goodness ! We probably won't see how mant fools broke the mandate for another week or so.
June Arnott
Reply to @Lou Bell: There were massive lineups everywhere that was open on Saturday. Heard from hubby who had to work.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @June
Arnott: There are always massive line-ups at stores on the Saturday
between Good Friday and Easter Sunday. I've been avoiding shopping on
that day for years due to the crowds.
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are being a little redundant So I should too N'esy Pas?
Cry Me a River
Cry Me a River
Ferdinand Boudreau
Reply to @Lou Bell: Look like were on the right track-- The fools are not in NB
June
Arnott
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Yes there are and good for you, but there should not have been
any. Stay at home, isolation, remember? That was my point.
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @June
Arnott: Buying food and accessing medical services are essentials. If
would have been nice if the people who couldn't buy food Friday or
Sunday didn't *all* decide to do it on Saturday, but they had a right to
be there.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @June
Arnott: something you need to realize. Blaine Higgs is not a dictator
and it is not illegal to go for a walk or a drive. It's also not illegal
to go for a coffee at Tim's or shop at Walmart. You may not like it but
nobody is breaking any laws.
Rob Mason
Reply to @Lou Bell: our PM went against his own advice and travelled for Easter.
David Amos
Reply to @Rob Mason:
Methinks that is par for the course However Mr Brown pointed out that
fact yesterday. Perhaps folks should review all the comments in
yesterday's news before a lot go possibly "Poof" N'esy Pas?
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Methinks Trudeau the Younger is way behind the eight ball in this wicked game. Higgy et al already have their own little Police States N'esy Pas?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-premiers-consensus-1.5529119
Emergencies Act talks rejected by premiers, deemed a distraction
'Nobody wants to see this,' said one source
·
CBC News · Posted: Apr 10, 2020 11:19 AM ET
Sources say B.C. Premier John Horgan was forcefully against the Emergencies Act on a call with other premiers, calling it a distraction. (Mike McArthur/CBC)
The Council of the Federation can be divided on partisan and regional lines, but yesterday Canada's 13 premiers came to a quick consensus on a key message to the federal government: don't push the Emergencies Act on us.
On Thursday, the federal government sent a letter to provincial and territorial governments consulting on the never-before-used act, a necessary step if Ottawa wanted to pull the trigger on declaring a public welfare emergency amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
"This whole idea of the letter was pretty quickly shut down," said one source close to the talks, speaking on the condition they not be named.
The premiers talked among themselves after the letter was sent out and ahead of their call with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau Thursday evening. Opinions ranged from deep frustration to indifference, according to provincial officials.
B.C Premier John Horgan — whose province has shown progress in flattening the curve of its coronavirus outbreak — was so angry he used an expletive and called the ordeal a waste of time, said sources.
Trudeau repeatedly told the premiers he doesn't want to invoke the act and was looking at it as a contingency measure, not because the federal government sees a need for it, said sources.
"Nobody wants to see this," said one source.
Act gives federal government sweeping powers
The Emergencies Act — which replaced the War Measures Act in 1988 — gives the federal government sweeping powers to regulate or prohibit travel, requisition and use property, order qualified people to provide essential services, regulate the distribution of goods, resources and services, and establish emergency shelters and hospitals.
In recent days there has been talk of using it to ensure supplies and equipment are deployed to where they're most needed across the country. One of the federal government's concerns has been about allocating supplies for Indigenous communities.
Under the act, Ottawa could redirect medical supplies — masks, ventilators and COVID-19 testing devices — to regions in dire need.
The premiers pushed back on that notion on the call and said supply chains have been secured as more Canadian companies gear up to make personal protective equipment (PPE) and ventilators domestically.
Economy, support for essential workers raised
The provinces and territories have already taken extraordinary steps in calling states of emergency to restrict movements and close businesses in the bid to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus.
No one can think of anything the federal government would use the Emergencies Act for that would do more good than harm, said one source.
WATCH |Trudeau lays groundwork for never-used Emergencies Act:
Sources tell CBC News that the federal government has sent a letter to provinces and territories as part of the consultation period — a required step before triggering a public welfare emergency. 6:21
According to the Prime Minister's Office, Trudeau talked about the importance of having discussions regarding the Emergencies Act.
"He encouraged premiers to share their views on how the act could be used, if required. However, he noted that current measures and the great collaboration between governments are helping Canada fight the pandemic," says the readout of the call.
The two-hour phone call between the premiers and the prime minister then shifted to concerns about the economy and what happens when the health pandemic ends, especially in the oil-dependent provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador.
Sources said there was also talk of sending money to the provinces to support benefits for essential workers, but the details still have to be hammered out.
With files from Paul MacInnis and Chris Hall
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David Amos
Another 24 hours has past and as i refresh the page I see that even more opinions have gone "Poof"
David Amos
Mr Brown a fellow Maritimer just posted this in another forum I quote him as follows:
"So i cannot go fishing by my self while the so called leader of Canada and his family go to their cottage in Quebec traveling from ONTARIO for a easter egg hunt First off where are the cops that are supposed to stop non essential travel between Provinces and why are the family not practicing social distancing and why are the RCMP escorting them? "
My answer still is
Methinks the rules don't apply to the elite as they have their way with our taxpayer funds N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks everybody knows who is blogging, tweeting and emailing the "Powers That Be" about this malicious nonsense N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks the
moderators must be very busy these days making opinions they don't agree
with go "Poof' so much for Free Speech within a Police State N'esy Pas? David Amos
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Methinks it should be no surprise that one day later the tally of comments has not risen much N'esy Pas?
David Amos
WOW I refresh the page and the change in the tally says nearly 1000 opinions went poof. Methinks lots of folks must be upset by this news N'esy Pas?
Michael Craine
Reply to @David Amos: If this page is your version of the news then you are very right.
David Amos
Reply to @Michael Craine: Perhaps you should google me
David Scott Barclay
Imagine if everything the Provinces needed had to pass through the tangled, convoluted Ottawa bureaucracy, and get lost in dead-ends?
David Amos
Reply to @David Scott
Barclay: Methinks that happens every day of the week all day long for
we the little people the bureaucracy purportedly serves N'esy Pas?
Rae Nilsson
The Quarantine Act has already given the RCMP power to enter your home and arrest you WITHOUT a warrant according to the G&Mail.
David Amos
Reply to @Rae
Nilsson: Methinks if the RCMP ever tried to pull such nonsense there
will be some very interesting litigation in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?
Michael Craine
Reply to @Rae Nilsson: Maybe, maybe not but the fact is the G&M is the authority some think it is.
BobbyTaylor
BobbyTaylor
Reply to @Rae
Nilsson: - the liberals did that with their $2 Billion waste known as
the Long Gun Registry. That gave police power to search your home
without a warrant if they "suspected" you had an unregistered gun. The
left wing anti gun crowd totally ignored that one.
David Amos
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Reply to @Michael Craine: Methinks everybody knows why I have every right to question anyone's authority N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
Henri Hudson
Glad to see the provincial premiers send a clear message to this drama instructor. United they stand.
Mike Morris
Reply to @Henri Hudson:
As apposed to the failed insurance salesman Scheer who lost an election he might have won, but did't.
As apposed to the failed insurance salesman Scheer who lost an election he might have won, but did't.
robert
plant
Reply to @Mike Morris: But, but Scheer. This is all on the failure of the liberals.
Kat Burd
Reply to @robert
plant: Failure? As the Federal Government's handling of this crisis
gains support across the country and the CONnedgretaion here stays in
denial?
Henri
Hudson
Reply to @Kat Burd:
From illegal blockades derailing the economy, to an anti oil agenda to
pandering to climate radicals this government has only begun to sink our
country into a abyss that I’m not sure we’ll recover from.
James MacKinnon
Reply to @Henri
Hudson: 2020 price tag for Justin's solution (sarcasm) is $100 B of
added on deficit for 2020...those are LIB numbers folks. That, Henri,
should be more than enough to ensure the collapse of Canada as you
envisioned.
Andy. Radtke
Reply to @Mike Morris: Paid for by the LPC or the Trudeau Foundation?
David Amos
Reply to @Henri
Hudson: Methinks Trudeau the Younger is way behind the eight ball in
this wicked game. Higgy et al already have their own little Police
States N'esy Pas?
Elton Elm
Reply to @Henri Hudson: “molon labe” day the premiers to the feds
Elton Elm
Reply to @Henri Hudson: “molon labe” day the premiers to the feds
Lou Parks
Reply to @Henri Hudson:
The premiers
probably have
30-60 days
to come around on this.
The Emergency Act
will probably be needed
The premiers
probably have
30-60 days
to come around on this.
The Emergency Act
will probably be needed
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Parks: So says a liberal spindoctor
Robert Jones
Reply to @Kat Burd: "As the Federal Government's handling of this crisis "
Oh, you mean watching what Donald Trump does and then duplicating it a week or two later?
Yeah...that's not very impressive, really...
David Amos
Reply to @Robert
Jones: Methinks its rather obvious you are not the Robert Jones I know.
Perhaps if you want a little chuckle sometime you should Google your
name and mine. Other folks should too N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-covid-19-update-1.5530317
2 new cases of COVID-19 detected, 2 more people hospitalized
New Brunswick still has three people in intensive care
CBC News · Posted: Apr 12, 2020 1:26 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health, said the small increase should not make people complacent. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
The province announced two new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday, bringing the total to 114.
The new cases are both in the Saint John region. One is a person between 60 and 69 years of age, and the other is a person between 70 and 79.
The number of recoveries is steady at 70, and the government's messaging also remains the same. Chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell reminded people that the small increase in the number of cases and the large number of recoveries is a good thing, but should not make them complacent.
"Staying home will save lives," she said.
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There's a lot of confusion about face masks now. Here are your top questions answered by chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell. 4:39
Of the 114 cases, 66 are travel-related, 36 are close contacts of confirmed cases, seven are the result of community transmission and five remain under investigation, a government release said.
Two more people have been hospitalized, bringing the total to 12. Five of those have already been discharged, and three of the remaining are in intensive care.
New Brunswick has done 7,963 tests in total, which includes 280 in the last 24 hours.
Premier Blaine Higgs said the government is "closely monitoring" the COVID-19 response in nursing homes. One employee has tested positive in a Quispamsis nursing home last week.
"I thank the dedicated staff of these homes who are working tirelessly during these unprecedented times," he said.
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Robert L. Brown
So i cannot go fishing by my self while the so called leader of Canada and his family go to their cottage in Quebec traveling from ONTARIO for a easter egg hunt First off where are the cops that are supposed to stop non essential travel between Provinces and why are the family not practicing social distancing and why are the RCMP escorting them
David Amos
Reply to @Robert L.
Brown: Methinks the rules don't apply to the elite as they have their
way with our taxpayer funds N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Robert L. Brown: He is a joke. Hypocritical. Soft. In no way commands respect on the world stage
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Say Hey to Higgy for me will ya?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Dont you have his #? I thought all the bigtime politicians ran
everything by you first for your supreme knowledge of law and good moral
policy
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Ask Higgy why that is
Dotty Gaudet
Are police still patrolling at every NB border and 24/7?
David Amos
Reply to @Dotty
Gaudet: Methinks that is just another one of those things the cops do in
Higgy's Police State that folks fail to appreciate N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Dotty
Gaudet: As they should be. All of our neighbors short of PEI have zero
handle on this situation right now whereas we've done pretty good
slowing the spread.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Spoken just like a cop
David Peters
There is an article posted on Saturday, by the Daily Mail, that hints that maybe a US taxpayer funded lab, in China, might be involved in this virus scare.
Gov't has ballooned to such a size, even the ppl running it don't know what it's doing...let alone the ppl paying for it.
Transparency leads to accountability.
Gov't needs to be reformed to cost less, to be less dangerous, and to be less intrusive, imo.
Nicholas Krinis
Reply to @David
Peters: Absolutely, but many fellow Canadians are still voting for the
inhabitants of our own home-made swamp, with no drainage in sight.
Rene Cusson
Reply to @David Peters: "There is an article posted on Saturday, by the Daily Mail"
The source is "The Daily Mail"? Then you might as well stop right there...because there is no real story to talk about.
The source is "The Daily Mail"? Then you might as well stop right there...because there is no real story to talk about.
David Peters
Reply to @Rene Cusson:
Are you saying they made that whole thing up?
The US dept of health didn't recently give the Chinese lab in question a grant of over $3 Million? All the images of the lab are fake? The statement by the US Congressman was made up? The lab in question isn't doing cruel acts of experimentation on animals, then selling them at a nearby market?
Seems like a strange, oddly specific, thing to make up out of the clear blue...
Are you saying they made that whole thing up?
The US dept of health didn't recently give the Chinese lab in question a grant of over $3 Million? All the images of the lab are fake? The statement by the US Congressman was made up? The lab in question isn't doing cruel acts of experimentation on animals, then selling them at a nearby market?
Seems like a strange, oddly specific, thing to make up out of the clear blue...
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Rene
Cusson: Just because the Daily Mail is not like Pravda (i.e. like most
of the lamestream media) doesn't mean they aren't right most of the
time.
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Metiinks many would agree that all "lamestream media" has a questionable agenda N'esy Pas?
john smith
as log as the borders are closed ya should be able to move here soon everyone s repatriated
David Amos
Reply to @john smith: Not in Higgy's Police State
Matthew Smith
there appears to be a second outbreak I think could be referred to as "david-19" in these parts. Those exposed suffer bewildering effects of petty vindictiveness c/w diatribes of a persecution complex, there may be a cure...
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Matthew Smith: If that spreads beyond that cabin he's holed up in we are all doomed!
David Amos
Reply to @Matthew Smith: Too Too Funny Indeed
Methinks folks should read all the comments Lou Bell's thread in order to judge me for themselves. They may enjoy checking out who is the desperate dude with the ad hominem attacks because he can't argue himself out of the corner her has painted himself into N'esy Pas?
Methinks folks should read all the comments Lou Bell's thread in order to judge me for themselves. They may enjoy checking out who is the desperate dude with the ad hominem attacks because he can't argue himself out of the corner her has painted himself into N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Oh My My Methinks in fine Maritime tradition we have a tag team match
that your buddy Matty Baby may regret jumping in the ring with the likes
of you for a partner N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Matthew Smith: FYI You can find my reply within my blog
David Amos
Reply to @Matthew Smith: "My passion is applying financial knowledge and skills to help my clients develop a personal financial strategy. I will take the time to understand what matters most to you"
Yea Right Methinks that dude should Google "Harper and Bankers" N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
I never paid attention or noticed this before but I see strangers who I have never seen before walking their dogs on my street using leashes that go super far into my yard, even when our family and children are doing yard work or playing. The dog owners also come into our yard to pick up the dog crap. Is this legal?
Mac Isaac
Reply to @Shawn
McShane: Jeeez, not many people would want the police to investigate
someone actually picking up dog crap. Whatya do with it!?!
Les Cooper
Reply to @Shawn McShane: you have problems!
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Methinks you do too N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Mac Isaac: Methinks the police not investigating things should concern folks N'esy Pas?
Janice small
Mr Higgs, Jennifer and Ted.. you are all doing a good job as these are trying times and we all need to be aware of what's facing us and how serious this is..And I believe we are slowly beating this down as we can see from the numbers..The 3 of you have to start looking at the glass have full ,instead of have empty...NB and all our people are hungry for some positive news as we continue the journey of lock down..Between the 3 of you their must be some positive news on all the great recoveries that have been recorded,, the very low minimum of new cases,,.. The weather is warming, people are getting stir crazy and we need tentative date from NB to look forward to even if it's a moving target..You must be able to tell us something soon....!!!!
David Webb NB
Reply to @Janice
small: How about July 26? Since you suggest pulling a date out of the
air. Stir crazy? Has been a great time to declutter, do spring
cleaning, and some much needed painting.
David Amos
Reply to @Janice small: Dream on
David Amos
Reply to @David Webb NB: I always wanted to ask are you the same fella I sold a 1000 LTD to in 1979?
Garth Harris
You New Brunswickers are doing just fine. If any province dropped the ball on this it was Nova Scotia. Look at their stats vs your stats. Per capita, Nova Scotians are doing very poorly.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Garth
Harris: Thanks for the compliment, but Nova Scotia has a handicap that
New Brunswick doesn't: Halifax, a city five times the size of New
Brunswick's largest city. Cities mean greater population density and
easier virus transmission. It's no coincidence that out of NS's 445
positive tests, 328 are in the health zone that includes Halifax.
Shawn McShane
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: International airport and population.
Les Cooper
Reply to @Garth Harris: No body wants to visit NB lol
Garth
Harris
Reply to @Shawn McShane:
I did say "per capita" didn't I? It was not an international airport for most of the present situation. International flights were denied landing rights.
I did say "per capita" didn't I? It was not an international airport for most of the present situation. International flights were denied landing rights.
Garth
Harris
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
I believe it's the buses in HRM that are the harbingers of doom for that city.
I believe it's the buses in HRM that are the harbingers of doom for that city.
Jim Johnston
Reply to @Garth
Harris: I would say that all of Canada is doing pretty good on this.
Still an unknown ways to go until a vaccine is developed and this genie
can get put in a bottle.
Graeme Scott
Reply to @Garth Harris: ............as stated higher population density (Halifax) and a March break that was a week later.
Garth
Harris
Reply to @Graeme Scott:
As stated...shut down the buses. They're contributing to the mayhem. NB has three large cities. NS has only one very spread out large city made up of smaller boroughs.
As stated...shut down the buses. They're contributing to the mayhem. NB has three large cities. NS has only one very spread out large city made up of smaller boroughs.
Garth
Harris
Reply to @Graeme Scott:
If density is the problem then it just proves that Haligonians are thumbing their noses at social distancing. Scofflaws the bunch of them.
If density is the problem then it just proves that Haligonians are thumbing their noses at social distancing. Scofflaws the bunch of them.
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: So you say
Mike Bookman
I went to my local Sobeys yesterday for some necessities. From the people I saw shopping there, no too many were adhering to the mouth and nose covering besides myself and two other people. It's like they don't get it or are just being stubborn. Most of them looked like they came out of the backwoods 'fer supplies' and feel they are immune. One millennial dude was strolling past us with his earbuds like only his world mattered.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Mike Bookman: Nice generalization of rural people you Yuppie
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Mike Bookman: You can use "yer" imagination as to what I'm leaving out
Salvi Luker
Reply to @Mike
Bookman: Canadians are victims of their own success. Decades of
uneventful prosperity do not train you for crises.
Dianne
Bastarache
Reply to @Mike
Bookman: Not sure why folks don't use on line grocery ordering, for pick
up. All larger grocery banners offer this option. Order on line;
choose a pick up time slot (if you cannot have it delivered). Let them
know when you've arrived...unlock your trunk....done! No physical
contact.
David Webb
NB
Reply to @Dianne
Bastarache: Because the companies have been overwhelmed and have asked
that only seniors and those with compromised immune systems use the
system. Just because the service is free at this time doesn't entitle
the otherwise healthy to abuse it.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Dianne
Bastarache: My daughter uses the service at Superstore . When she called
last week she wa informed her order would be ready in 7 days ! Now you
know why people aren't using it !
BruceJack Speculator
Reply to @Lou Bell: a
friend used the delivery option from superstore, specified "no
substitution" on a small order of about 5 - 6 items. Order arrived with
almost everything wrong example Soya sauce instead of Worcestershire
sauce, wrong cheese and so on. Tried to get satisfaction and still no
luck after a week or more.
Dianne
Bastarache
Reply to @David Webb
NB: David Webb, it is true that the on line system is overwhelmed in
that one needs to select a time slot several days from time of placing
the order. In one instance, it was 4 days for me; in the second, it was
6. However, it is still very do able and I have not heard nor read
that companies are asking that only folks who are elderly or otherwise
compromised use it. Not sure why you would suggest that folks using
this system (which ensures the limited contact that the health
department is recommending) is abuse.
Dianne
Bastarache
Reply to @Lou Bell:
That is strange, because the system at SuperStore has you selecting your
time slot on the system, not via phone call. Are you sure???? Also, I
suggest that people ARE using it and that's why it is overwhelmed.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you should review what you have said about rural people N'esy Pas?
t c
Reply to @Lou Bell: omg!!! Someone was stupid enough to sleep with you!!??? I'm sure that your daughter's lovely!!!!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Has the cat got your tongue? Methinks its interesting that your buddy
Maggie added his two bits worth in the most popular thread but I hear
only crickets coming from the woman who started the spit and chew N'esy
Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Enlighten me master notation.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you know where to find you own vitriol There should be no need
for me to repeat it in order to further aid in your infamy N'esy Pas Mr
Jones or should I say EH TJ?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
I've never been concerned with such things as infamy. That's your
department. Fighter for the little guy who sues the pants off anyone he
dreams up. Ignored every single time
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: YO TJ How do you explain my appealing a judgement I won in Federal Court?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: How do you explain my NOT accepting the 4 judgements I won in the USA?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks everybody knows that is not your name but the Crown must
provide your IP address when I sue it again N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: How do you or your buddy Higgy explain the use of Rule 55 in the Federal Court of Appeal?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks one thing you know for certain is that I love to sue lawyers N'esy Pas TJ?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
The true test will be winning that bizarre rambled manifesto indicating
about 1000 different CEOs Senators Judges and Bush Madolf and Whitey
Bulger. That one would make box office hit movie
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you must have listened to the wiretap tapes N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Oh totally have. I should take a run up around Sussex sometime this summer the Acid sounds good up there
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Do you bother to consider the things you write?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I repeat Methinks you should review what you have said about rural people N'esy Pas?
Brian Decker
Reply to @David Amos: OMG. What's wrong with you???
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
I'm from rural dum dum. Some people just dont know when they're being
set up to be toyed with. Clearly it's over your head at this point
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Decker: Methinks its only fair to ask you the same question N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you are entitled to know that rethought matters in that you
were not TJ when you made a Freudian slip. It was a bit of a faux pas
when you said "up" to Sussex. Everybody knows the best friend of corrupt
cops would have to come down from Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Too Bad So Sad that folks could not see my reply to you but the RCMP know where to read it Correct?
June Arnott
Lots of people out shopping on Saturday in NB I heard. Line ups everywhere I heard. Let’s see what that does to the curve.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @June
Arnott: Let's hope it proves that if the curve has started to flatten
and that people are mostly staying in for the next few weeks that some
of these stricter measures can be relaxed but still to follow some
guidelines on personal spacing!
Alex Stevens
Reply to @June
Arnott: Of course there are going to be line ups. Stores are limiting
the number of people in the store and the checkout takes a little
longer, People need to eat. Need milk, dairy, perishable items. Not
everyone has a stocked bunker of military rations :-)
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @June
Arnott: That happens every year the Saturday between Good Friday and
Easter Sunday. People spend Friday thinking of things they need to buy,
then run out on Saturday to buy them because the stores are closed
Sunday.
Dianne Bastarache
Reply to @Alex Stevens: Use on line ordering, for pick up. Easy peasy.
Dianne Bastarache
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Easter Saturday is the 2nd largest grocery sales day of the year, second only to Christmas Eve.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Yea Right
Lou Bell
If we can get through this weekend with JUST A FEW cases we'll be lucky ! With people showing such ignorance as those letting their kids get together for play dates as reported in the Hanwell , there are always a few who are a detriment to the many
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry Me A River
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You should try to cry him one maybe it will wash him away for good
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks it kinda obvious that you not so clever cops do not know that
Lou is a woman who works for Horizon Health who is well aware that your
hero Higgy put a "Stay" on my Medicare Card. I would lay odds you would
be crying bigtime if that had happened to you N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks some not so clever cops will be reading my reply to you in short order N'esy Pas Mr Jones?
Ray Oliver:
Reply to @David Amos: I dont know what that means
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: The RCMP know I already blogged it while awaiting moderation before it went "Poof"
Reply to @Ray Oliver: The RCMP know I already blogged it while awaiting moderation before it went "Poof"
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Yea Right
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Building another rock solid case are ya
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: BINGO
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Ray Oliver: About as strong as cattle getting struck by laser beams I'm sure
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Thats not what killed my cattle Do you dudes in Red Coats recall the
name of my first calf that died in 2006?
Dan Flanagan
Reply to @David Amos: Obviously you don't have grandparents or elderly in your life that you care about.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: The guy has lots but theyre all in his own head.
David Amos
Reply to @Dan
Flanagan: I am a Grandfather who is likely older than your daddy but my
Mother is still alive and she older than our Queen whom I sued in 2015
Reply
to @Dan Flanagan: What would you Father do if your Grandparent had
heart problems and had to pay their emergency room bills and doctor fees
out of pocket because Higgy put a "Stay"on their Medicare Card because
they sued the Queen?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks I should have no doubt that the RCMP knows how long all my
Grandparents and Staff Sgt Jones have been pushing up daisies N'esy Pas
Mr Jones?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: BTW Your buddy Lou is a woman Methinks you are not as clever as you think you are N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply
to @David Amos: I read your blog some. You sued the Queen? For
attention? I'm surprised how many high profile people you think have all
gotten together to pursue your demise. Its impressive! Well done!
David Amos
David Amos David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you are well aware that all your words and mine are in my blog N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Which means absolutely nothing. Best of luck with your case.
David Amos
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Which means absolutely nothing. Best of luck with your case.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Harassment is illegal
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: in the words of a well known harasser himself "cry me a river"
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: What do you know about the demise of my cattle were you involved?
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks I can tust that the RCMP know that it is a fact that as soon as picked up the phone and talked to Luc Labonte a former Assistant Deputy Attorney General the Crown stayed the charges against the farmer named Bock N'esy Pas Mr Jones?
Graham MacNab
Reply to @David Amos: Why would you say that?
David Amos
Reply to @Graham MacNab: Why do you ask?
Graham MacNab
Reply to @David Amos: Successfully sued?
David Amos
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Reply to @Graham
MacNab: Methinks the Clown you should read all the comments that remain
in this thread then ask your lawyer about Section 444 of the Canadian
Criminal Code before you go too deep making fun of my matters Trust that
the RCMP know that I am already looking into you for obvious reasons
N'esy Pas? David Amos
Reply to @Graham MacNab: Check my blog for my reply
David Amos
Reply to @Graham MacNab: Moncton NB E1C 4J4???
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks its illegal to impersonate a cop N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You're accusing me of being one constantly. They threw that out because that farmer wasn't wired right and they felt bad for him
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I can see your common bond however thru it all lol
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks the RCMP should talk to Judge Labonte and ask him about our
conversation about dead cattle and Section 444 right after they talk to
Justice Bell about my lawsuit that your buddy MacNab is playing dumb
about N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply
to @Ray Oliver:You are a cop all right just not the one you claim to
be. Methinks these were you first words to me on April 10th N'esy Pas?
"And its Constable Oliver to you. You should start CCing me in all your fascinating emails you send to anyone who will listen"
"And its Constable Oliver to you. You should start CCing me in all your fascinating emails you send to anyone who will listen"
Marguerite
Deschamps
Holy cow!!!
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you know as well as I that I accused your Mr Jones ID of being
a cop then you introduced yourself as one not knowing that the CBC
computer was exposing the truth about both your IDS N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks that even you buddy will agree that that may be the
understatement of the the year N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should try to explain Section 444 to the clowns "N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You forget I said I go by Inspector Gadget and Lieutenant Dan also..
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
I forget nothing and keep very good records. I want to know what you
know about my cattle because that is not one bit funny More importantly
the RCMP and everybody else knows that I have had nothing to do with
Bock since the summer of 2009 Hence you must have been one of the herd
of cops who were harassing me back then Correct?
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: It was a holey cow after the UFO laser beams!!
Roger Richard
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
“Harassment is illegal” I am every day getting more and more dubious
about the establishment including RCMP...
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: Oui Mon Ami Please notice how they are still trying to stick
that UFO nonsense on me after all these years? Methinks desperate cops
do desperate things N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Roger Richard: I highly doubt I've ever witnessed anybody as dubious as in talks above. Just like a fiddle you guys!! A fiddle.
Roger Richard
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Unfortunately, Mr. Oliver I do not trust you.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you are the desperate cop (or lawyer) trying to play us like fiddle N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Be safe. I think we are in a police state.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: Methinks its an illegal Police State. Higgy may be starting to
realize the jig is up and that he may have to to pay the fiddler because
the cops gave out too many questionable tickets on his say so.
Everybody knows greedy lawyers love Charter arguments against the
Crown.I trust that former Liberal Attorney Generals such as Burke,
Lamrock, Murphy and Rouselle should attest to that simple fact N'esy
Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: You have steer me right for many years now. Actually, you intervene in my issues at a critical time. You have all my confidence.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: Just as you have mine You have always been a great friend in my neediest of times.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Awwww too cute guys!
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks your divide and conquer game backfired bigtime Perhaps
interested folks should Google the following words to see what I thought
of just as soon as you mentioned fiddles N'esy Pas?
T.J. Burke letter played like a fiddle
T.J. Burke letter played like a fiddle
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: yes as only he ever has ever used such saying. Great work Sherlock or did your new sidekick make this breakthrough discovery?
Roger Richard
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Who are you, Mr. Jones, Mr. Oliver or Mr. ...? I work with my name only.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Who is he? Methinks everybody knows it was me who played T.J. Burke
like a fiddle.More importantly Roger Richard is far from a new sidekick
of mine. Plus he is a force all on his own. He is a man of few words
tis all. However I talk enough for both of us. I trust that the RCMP
must remember when Roger took them on in Kent County and also ran for
public office N'esy Pas?
Dianne Bastarache
Reply to @Lou Bell: We won't know the impact of that for as much as 2 weeks.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Did he get 15 votes too. What's the over/under on that? Political powerhouses the both of ya
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: A fire hydrant could run independent and haul more votes
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you are sounding more and more like the TJ Burke Danny Boy
Fitzgerald and Chucky Leblanc know very well and whom I know to be
related to dudes in Beantown with exactly the same name One of the
Yankees is a cop who lost a leg in Iraq N'esy Pas?
Roger
Richard
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Lol, the importance to be an independent candidate is not to win. It
is an essential way to have the privilege to speak up and to be listened
to. As you know, after the election, only the 1% have a say. By the
way, I lost as expected but I got a few more votes than the NDP.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: Methinks you got about 200 votes just as I did in Fat Fred City
in 2006 I doubt TJ Burke, Danny Boy Fitzgerald or Chucky Leblanc voted
for me instead of their buddy Andy Scott N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Its important not to look like Gandalf to the general public too. Kudos
to the other candidates poker faces on stage during the debates when
the floor was yours.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Roger Richard: Well said I'll give ya that one!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Using motomaniac as a handle in an email when trying to deal with
serious business with FBI, the Queen, and whomever else of much greater
clout than yours is great for comedic relief
Roger Richard
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Thanks Mr. Jones, Mr, Oliver or whatever... I became an independent
candidate on Mr. Amos’ advice. You see, I was going to vote Green Party
in 2018. But when I was arguing NB Power concerning smart meters and
its effects on health of the people at the NBEUB’s matter #375, I
learned that the Green Party was all for smart meters! I tried to
reasoned with them but to no avail... So I had, at the time, two
choices at that provincial election: either I cancel my vote or I vote
for myself. In 2018, I voted for myself.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Roger Richard: I respect your integrity on that. Well played
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks its interesting that you agree that Roger was wise to take my advice N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Even a broken clock's right twice a day lol
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks the RCMP should have informed you that the Crown wrote cheques
to my company Motorcycle Maniac Ltd when they hired me to investigate
things for them back when you were in pampers. So did a lawyer when he
sued the RCMP about a wrongful death in i982 that I had investigated
N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks ad hominem attacks reflect poorly on your character.Rest
assured I don't mind Anyone can Google Fundy Royal Debate and judge
your so called Gandalf for themselves N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Is that you idea of witty? Methinks if you truly are TJ Burke you
should give your head a shake then take a nap N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you should give your tag team partner Matty Baby directions to
my blog I believe I am being fair N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I dont even know who TJ Burk is. But you're right a nap sounds nice!
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Yea Right Scroll up You referred to him earlier now you are denying
who you are. Methinks you are grasping a straws N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: I said I used a common term to describe this back and forth. You're jumping to far fetched conclusions assuming I'm someone. Or should I say. Grasping at straws?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Anyways. Enough fun for one an evening.. Nighty night dont let the beard lice bite!!
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you finally figured out that you had too much to drink just
like when you said too much to the law school kids at UNB many moons ago
N'esy Pas Mr Jones or should I say TJ???
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BTW Did you know the Crown I embarrassed in 1982 was the Judge you were covering for many years later?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Again. No clue where you're headed with these tales
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you are just like a moth to the flame aren't ya TJ? All I had
to do was mention why you lost your job as Attorney General N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Dream on
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
My final thought for the night. How is a couch-surfing Father Time in
rural NB so privy to all the closed door dealings of power figures all
across Eastern North America??
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks even you must have heard about how I raised Hell with all the lawyers last summer at the Wu Centre under Chatham House Rules? If not ask Roger about it he witnessed it as we argued NB Power bigtime about Not Sop Smart Meters etc. You can bet that circus put Higgy's nasty blue knickers in a quite a knot Nesy Pas TJ Baby???
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
BTW did ya hear about the desperate Yankee lawyers working for the
Commissioners of the SEC calling me last week after Trump fired Glenn
Fine?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: "Again. No clue where you're headed with these tales"
You already told me you knew
You already told me you knew
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
BTW What did you and all the cops do with all the wiretap tapes of the
mob I gave you dudesin 2004 and the ones the Fat Fred City Finest stole
from me along with my Harleyin 2007 when you were the Attorney General
and falsely claimed that I was stalking you?
Roger Richard
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I appreciate that you recognize my work concerning smart meters and its importance for our society. But all I did is a very small fraction of the work Mr. Amos did and is still doing. His work for the betterment of our society is astounding. Unfortunately, being very ethical and honest, he cannot be accepted by our “honorable” elites. Hence, are you one of his many targets?
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: Thanks for that Roger Methinks the snake crawled back under his
rock Hence on his behalf I will quote his last words to me on April
10th "Later Gator"
Heres hoping you enjoyed the circus and that our words don't go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Heres hoping you enjoyed the circus and that our words don't go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Roger Richard: Long time reader of these before joining and it didn't take long for him to bite. He bullies people trying to have a little friendly debate on the topic of article at hand, then says either "cry me a river" or something to the effect and then proceed to hijack it to make it about his persecution or his other endeavors. That's what his blog is for. It annoyed me. That is all this boiled down to. Then he keeps poking so I poked back. Just a little banter.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: BS TJ
BruceJack Speculator
Reply to @Ray Oliver: is this Richard the same guy who worries about smart meters? what about the damage from dental xrays ?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Olive:
Methinks if you buddy the "Speculator" thinks he knows so much he should
get a real name and intervene at the EUB hearings like Roger and I have
done. I trust that it would be fun to watch him put his money where his
mouth is N'esy Pas Mr Jones ?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
After I laid it all right out you still think I'm some bigshot out for
revenge not your everyday guy you pass on the street or in the grocery
store. At 6 feet now of course
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: More BS from TJ
Dianne Bastarache
Reply to @David Amos: I am intrigued, David Amos. I notice that you end many of your posts with **N'esy Pas**. Could you please explain the meaning and function of you using this?? Thanks.
David Amos
Reply to @Dianne Bastarache: How many times must I do that?
David Amos
Reply
to @Dianne Bastarache: In a nutshell methinks my Acadian friend Roger
Richard may affirm that I enjoy employing old English and Chiac
expressions to upset snobby Anglos However most French folks get the
joke N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
I must ask have you bothered to try to understand my messages between
the two words you are curious about?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Yep.
BruceJack
Speculator
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
seeing how easy it is to get that regular poster to turn to personal
attacks or coded messages about how great he is ( and so "transparant",
eh ? ) it sure says something that he never managed to win a government
seat. would certainly hate to see one of those big salaries and
pensions going to that.
David Amos
Reply to @BruceJack
Speculator: Methinks you don't pay your taxes with that name so it
should not matter what you say about anything if you don't have enough
sand to back up your nasty words with a real name N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bail-hearings-new-brunswick-covid-19-1.5529428
Lawyers call for courts to dramatically reduce number of people on remand
People awaiting court hearings live in uncertainty as all trials are postponed to June or later
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 11, 2020 9:00 AM AT
Moncton-based criminal defence lawyer Mathieu Boutet says his clients are afraid for their safety as they wait in custody to face their charges. (Radio-Canada)
New Brunswick lawyers concerned about COVID-19 spreading through jails say the justice system should dramatically reduce the number of people awaiting trials and hearings in custody.
Mathieu Boutet, a Moncton defence lawyer, said his clients feel vulnerable, waiting for COVID-19 to infect their jail population when they're still presumed innocent.
"I'm terrified we have this black spot where no one is looking," he said. "We need to address this immediately before it becomes a bigger problem."
He said several decisions out of Ontario show judges are more likely to release people on bail while they await trial since the coronavirus outbreak began.
"Essentially, I think that's what the courts should be doing. But we're a little bit slow on that end here in New Brunswick."
Saint John defence lawyer Nathan Gorham says courts should start reviewing cases for every person in remand and release them on strict bail conditions. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)
He said in every other aspect of the response to COVID-19, the New Brunswick courts have moved quickly.
"But in my opinion, for individuals who are incarcerated looking at bail or pleas, sentences or trials, there's actually been a slowdown."
Advocates have been calling for the temporary release of people in custody, even ones found guilty and sentenced, because there's a risk that once COVID-19 enters a jail, it will spread exponentially.
Advocates have also spoken out about the difficulty of maintaining physical distancing inside, and the mental health impacts of cancelling visits.
New Brunswick courthouses have reduced operations to hearings considered "essential," including domestic disputes and urgent criminal matters. Most bail hearings are done by video conference or over the phone.
Crown prosecutors ... are making every effort to ensure bail hearings are only requested when deemed necessary.
- Coreen Enos, provincial spokesperson.All jury trials have been postponed to tentative dates in June and later, but it's not clear if courts will be able to resume operations by then.
Saint John defence lawyer Nathan Gorham said this has left his clients afraid for their safety but also unsure when they'll be able to defend themselves in court.
"I think that every person who's been detained at the pretrial phase of the process should have their case looked at closely to see if there's any reasonable way that they can be released," he said.
He said there should be some plan available to protect the public and release people on bail, such as having strict house-arrest rules and zero-tolerance for any breaches.
Province releasing convicted inmates
Meanwhile, the province says it has strengthened the screening of staff and new inmates, improved cleaning and been releasing people using the temporary absence program.Government spokesperson Geoffrey Downey said the program has been used for years to rehabilitate people and "reduce institution populations."
He said with that program the "lowest-risk, sentenced inmates" are sent back to the community to finish their sentence under supervision.
However, Downey said this program does not apply to people on remand.
Enos said a decision to release a person early is based on the nature of the sentence (if it's a non-violent crime), criminal history, sentence length, days remaining in sentence, stability of home life and the person's conduct in the institution.
Gorham said the threshold for who should be kept in custody based on the nature of their crimes should be higher for people not proven guilty yet.
"You could have really unfair situations whe.re people who were actually innocent are held on bail," just because they're accused of a violent crime, he said.
Enos said bail hearings are essential and are done by video conference or phone.
"Crown prosecutors are very aware of the present situation and are making every effort to ensure bail hearings are only requested when deemed necessary," she said.
Enos also said no directives have been issued by the courts in relation to bail hearings.
Boutet said this is what's missing.
"I see a willingness in individuals to do what they can to help," he said. "But without direction, without policy in place, without a clear indication of what type of steps to be taken, wishes are just that. They're wishes."
"Crown prosecutors are very aware of the present situation and are making every effort to ensure bail hearings are only requested when deemed necessary," she said.
Enos also said no directives have been issued by the courts in relation to bail hearings.
Boutet said this is what's missing.
"I see a willingness in individuals to do what they can to help," he said. "But without direction, without policy in place, without a clear indication of what type of steps to be taken, wishes are just that. They're wishes."
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13 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.David Amos
Methinks Higgy et all should not be surprised to see Chucky Leblanc's lawyer appear at the circus N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
I guess the old " They have a drinking problem " and " they have a drug problem " are old news so they gotta come up with something !!! My suggestion would be " they've got a terrible Lawyer " !!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Everyone does
Johnny Almar
I don’t get it. Let the crooks out to keep them safe from COVID-19 but we all have to stay locked up.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: You are still on the loose and snitching on your neighbours
Shawn Tabor
A black spot and nobody is looking. Why do you need the court, the decisions are made long before you enter the court, the rest is just formality and government connected jobs. You can decide on a computer and just e-mail it. Remember it just a game, learn to play it. Too funny.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Shawn Tabor: we should bring back community justice.
Chuck Michaels
How about "... don't do crime" ?
Consider : Covid doesn't give double credit for time on remand. Covid doesn't care about your high-priced lawyer. Covid doesn't care. Stay at home. DON'T get into trouble. BEHAVE.
The fewer folks that STAY OUT of jail in the FIRST place - the better it is for everyone.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Chuck Michaels: we could do vaccine trials on prisoners.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks I know whose birthday you are celebrating on the 20th N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-new-brunswick-recoveries-1.5529844
N. B. COVID-19 roundup: Recoveries jump to 70, no new cases detected
New Brunswick has 42 active cases as recoveries jump by 10 in one day
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 11, 2020 12:42 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health, says measures taken by the province are 'clearly making a difference,' but it's too soon to tell if the COVID-19 pandemic is slowing in the province. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
No new cases of COVID-19 have been detected, the government reported Saturday, as recoveries eclipsed active cases.
A government news release said there have been 112 cases in total in New Brunswick. But the 70 recoveries mean there are only 42 active cases.
It's too soon to say the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic is slowing in the province, but the numbers show that physical distancing and other measures are working, said chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell.
A government news release said there have been 112 cases in total in New Brunswick. But the 70 recoveries mean there are only 42 active cases.
It's too soon to say the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic is slowing in the province, but the numbers show that physical distancing and other measures are working, said chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell.
"The
measures we are taking are not going to change," Russell is quoted as
saying in the news release. "We do not want to become complacent and
then find ourselves losing ground to this highly contagious disease.
"I know it is difficult but please keep doing what you are doing because it is clearly making a difference."
The province has done 7,600 tests since the beginning of the outbreak. This includes 330 tests done in the last 24 hours.
Ten people have been hospitalized in total. Five have been discharged, and three of the five remaining are in the intensive care unit.
Those people can stop isolating themselves at that point, government spokesperson Anne Mooers said in an emailed statement Saturday.
"I know it is difficult but please keep doing what you are doing because it is clearly making a difference."
Ten people have been hospitalized in total. Five have been discharged, and three of the five remaining are in the intensive care unit.
New Brunswick doesn't use testing to decide who's recovered
People diagnosed with COVID-19 will be considered recovered 14 days after showing their first symptom, unless they continue to have a fever or feel unwell.Those people can stop isolating themselves at that point, government spokesperson Anne Mooers said in an emailed statement Saturday.
Tests
are not the best way to determine recovery because, Mooers said, they
can still be positive even if the person is no longer contagious.
"Hospitalized patients will be assessed on an individual basis by the treating physician and/ or infectious disease specialist to determine when isolation precautions can be discontinued," she said.
Mooers said it's "reasonable to believe" that people who have recovered would have immunity, but because this coronavirus is new, it's not clear how strong the immunity is or how long it will last.
She said that's still to be determined by research being done across the world.
Although people are being asked to stay home if possible, RCMP spokesperson Jullie Rogers-Marsh said RCMP have a regular number of officers patrolling during the long weekend.
"Hospitalized patients will be assessed on an individual basis by the treating physician and/ or infectious disease specialist to determine when isolation precautions can be discontinued," she said.
Mooers said it's "reasonable to believe" that people who have recovered would have immunity, but because this coronavirus is new, it's not clear how strong the immunity is or how long it will last.
She said that's still to be determined by research being done across the world.
RCMP on the lookout for people breaking physical distancing rules
RCMP officers are patrolling their regular routes, continuing to staff highways and looking out for people breaking the rules around COVID-19.Although people are being asked to stay home if possible, RCMP spokesperson Jullie Rogers-Marsh said RCMP have a regular number of officers patrolling during the long weekend.
She
said officers are "using their discretion" when enforcing the power
given to them to ticket people under the Emergency Measures Act.
"It would be our regular patrol," she said. "Tickets are being issued when appropriate."
Rogers-Marsh said officers have issued a number of tickets in the past week but wouldn't say how many.
"If we come across a situation where people are not following the guidelines, they could be given a ticket," she said.
She said officers are getting their directions about COVID-19 enforcement from the province. The province has asked people to avoid non-essential travel, and being near anyone who's not in their household. This includes being in the car with people they don't live with, gathering outdoors or being outdoors and not keeping a two-metre distance between each person.
"It's Easter weekend, everybody wants to spend it with their friends and family and there certainly are many traditions that simply are not possible this year," Rogers-Marsh said.
"It would be our regular patrol," she said. "Tickets are being issued when appropriate."
Rogers-Marsh said officers have issued a number of tickets in the past week but wouldn't say how many.
"If we come across a situation where people are not following the guidelines, they could be given a ticket," she said.
She said officers are getting their directions about COVID-19 enforcement from the province. The province has asked people to avoid non-essential travel, and being near anyone who's not in their household. This includes being in the car with people they don't live with, gathering outdoors or being outdoors and not keeping a two-metre distance between each person.
"It's Easter weekend, everybody wants to spend it with their friends and family and there certainly are many traditions that simply are not possible this year," Rogers-Marsh said.
"We're
encouraging no family gatherings with people outside of your own
household, no social gathering of any kind even outdoors."
The gender breakdown of positive cases is 42 per cent male and 58 per cent female.
The majority of the people tested are between the ages of 20 and 69. The age group that's been tested the most is 40 to 49 with 1,377 tests.
In the release, Premier Blaine Higgs thanked all essential workers for working on the holiday weekend and keeping New Brunswickers safe.
"Many people who work in the private or public sectors would be enjoying time off this Easter weekend with family and friends," said Higgs.
"Instead they are doing the most important work they will ever do. On behalf of your fellow New Brunswickers, thank you for working in these trying times. What you are doing is really appreciated."
Province investigates transmission mode of six cases
Of the 112 cases of COVID-19 previously confirmed in New Brunswick, 64 are travel-related, 36 are close contacts of confirmed cases, six are the result of community transmission and six remain under investigation, the government said in its regular Saturday statement about the disease.The gender breakdown of positive cases is 42 per cent male and 58 per cent female.
The majority of the people tested are between the ages of 20 and 69. The age group that's been tested the most is 40 to 49 with 1,377 tests.
In the release, Premier Blaine Higgs thanked all essential workers for working on the holiday weekend and keeping New Brunswickers safe.
"Many people who work in the private or public sectors would be enjoying time off this Easter weekend with family and friends," said Higgs.
"Instead they are doing the most important work they will ever do. On behalf of your fellow New Brunswickers, thank you for working in these trying times. What you are doing is really appreciated."
What to do if you have symptoms?
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website. Symptoms of coronavirus include fever, cough or breathlessness, as well as sore throat, headache and runny nose. People with symptoms are asked to:- Stay at home.
- Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions carefully.
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132 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.Johnny Almar
Masks don't do anything except make you sick.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: Methinks you likely wear one when you go out to snitch on your
neighbours so that they may not recognize you so easily N'esy Pas?
Will Leeson
Its the perfect enemy to control a population with.....invisible, and broadcasted like an unending incoming apocalypse 24/7..... well done folks, great job.
David Amos
Reply to @Will Leeson: Welcome to the circus
Lou Bell
Reply to @Will Leeson: Maybe if you're ignorant enough to be so uneducated about the virus !
Jacob Minton
Reply to @Will
Leeson: The pandemic has done a great job of testing who is paranoid.
Sorry to see you've tested positive for that.
Johnny Almar
“This is the new norm until there’s a vaccine.” Justin Trudeau Thursday, April 10, 2020.
Vaccine expected, at earliest, sometime in late 2021.
Yeah. Right.
We will revolt by then. NB will revolt if fishing season is delayed.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Yeah , we have to watch out for the ignorant naysayers !!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks we have to watch out for the snitches as well N'esy Pas?
Will Leeson
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Who are you going to revolt against? You're scared of people in their camps....
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: I repeat who is we?
David Amos
Reply to @Will
Leeson: Methinks campers should turn the worm and start calling the cops
about the Stasi. Snitches stalking them N'esy Pas?
Johnny
Almar
Reply to @Will Leeson: stay at home. We don’t want you here.
Will Leeson
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: Get stuffed, Ill travel where I like, and it is no where near you
Im sure. You fools are being played like cheap fiddles.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: You don't think an open fishing season wouldn't have people
travelling to new spots since it's the only thing open and to do in the
province after a comment like that?? Can't have it both ways!!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Dont visit your cottage alone and putter away opening it up to take a
mental break from isolation but you said you'll be going in your boat
alone to heck with the laws? Hmmm...
Dave Girdwood
It's not time to get complacent, just one outbreak in a large seniors home would change the outlook. I hope they really focus in on testing all residents and staff for all seniors and special care homes so we can stay ahead of the curve and avoid what is happening in other jurisdictions.
James Risdon
Reply to @Dave Girdwood: Way to look for the cloud behind the silver lining ..
.
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Lou Bell
Reply to @James Risdon: Just a reminder for those too ignorant to understand . Understand Jimmie ???
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Define ignorant for me will ya because methinks you are two peas in a pod N'esy Pas?
Dan Lee
Reply to @David Amos:
oops that counts as one for David..................
oops that counts as one for David..................
I've been saying since Wednesday that the peak of the pandemic has been reached and we are now over the hump. There will be more cases. Many more. There is still a great need for safety precautions.
James Risdon
But the rate of spread of Covid-19 is now slowing. We are over the hump.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James Risdon: Thanks Dr. Russell!
James Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
I am not Dr. Russell. I am James Risdon. Remember that name. That's the
name of the first person in Canada to spot that we had reached the peak
of the Covid-19 pandemic.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @James
Risdon: We're *maybe* over the hump. Until we start climbing the next
hump! I would love to think that by late April, we'll be able to loosen
some (not all) restrictions. But until it actually happens *and*
happens without a resurgence in COVID-19 cases, I'm not believing in it.
Also continuing to stay 2 metres away from my fellow humans.
James Risdon
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: And we appreciate it, SarahRose.
Joe Rootliek
Reply to @James Risdon: Good thinking. Subsiding, but not out of the woods by any means, yet.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: Well onward with the anti-body testing and at a much more
frequent pace than the diagnostic testing has been in NB then.
Nicolas Krinis
Reply to @James
Risdon: Same here. The CBC has caused so much stress and FUD, it's
unbelievable. There is no turning back for researchers. They have the
grants, the whole affair has a life of its own, now. When the dust
settles and the incidence is found to be inferior to that of influenza A
or B and the virulence about the same, there will be some H to pay. In
the meantime, we need to protect the most vulnerable by isolating
ourselves, but for once, I would have preferred that the government be
honest and forthright about it. We are doing all this because we were
caught with our pants down in terms of preparedness. Fool me once, fool
me twice.
Nicolas Krinis
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Actually, you should thank Dr. Ioannidis, cited 150,000 in the medical
literature, who is saying the same exact thing.
Johnny
Almar
Reply to @James Risdon: Are you an epidemiologist? You’re making claims as if you are.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Nicolas
Krinis: I should. But Mr. Risdon is trying to do an I told ya so about
his previous Wednesday statement whereas I was just suggesting a logical
step forward. Difference is the delivery
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Nicolas Krinis: Since I'm all cooped up here I think I'm gonna whip up a big batch of Hero Biscuits for the guy!!!
Samual Johnston
Reply to @James Risdon: Tis a guess. Hope you guessed correct.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James Risdon: Quite the statement. Do you want a medal? I'd consider getting it written on my Tombstone.
Lou Bell
Reply to @James Risdon: To quote the eternal pessimist , JIMMIE !! Way to look for the cloud behind the silver lining !
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @James
Risdon: And you can guarantee there will not be another peak? If you
can't please give us our coordinates, our lawyers will need them.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Nicolas Krinis: Ah , another George W. Bush admirer . Also forgot the lesson
!
!
James Risdon
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: You want a guarantee, buy a toaster.
James Risdon
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: I am just a person who can read and think. That should suffice as
arguing on the basis of an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.
James Risdon
Reply to @Samual
Johnston: At their core, all forecasts are guesses. Mine was based on
observing the data on the daily rates of Covid-19 infection.
Accept it or reject it. It's all the same to me. I made that statement and so far I see no reason to take it back.
Accept it or reject it. It's all the same to me. I made that statement and so far I see no reason to take it back.
James Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I prefer chocolate chip with nuts. Just saying.
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks many would agree that you two deserve to eat each other's cookies N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-covid-19-cases-1.5529222
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province sees 1 new case, recoveries reach 60
Three people remain in ICU, 10 hospitalized in total
CBC News · Posted: Apr 10, 2020 1:39 PM AT
Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health, announced in a statement Friday there was one new confirmed case of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
New Brunswick has one new case of COVID-19, bringing the total to 112, the provincial government said Friday.
A news release says the new case is a person 60 to 69 years old in Zone 2, or the Saint John region.
The release said of the 112 cases, 63 are travel-related, 35 are close contacts of confirmed cases, six are the result of community transmission and eight remain under investigation.
Sixty people have recovered since the outbreak began, the release said. Ten people have been hospitalized in total, and five were still in hospital Friday. Three of them are in an intensive care unit.
In the release, chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell reminded people how important it is to stay home this long weekend.
"It is difficult to not visit our parents, other family members and friends but it would be more difficult to see them become sick because of a decision that was made not to stay home," she was quoted as saying in the release.
Premier Blaine Higgs echoed the recommendation in the release.
"By staying at home and practising physical distancing, you are making a difference," he was quoted as saying.
Lack of enforcement clarity
Local police forces and the RCMP will be out this long weekend enforcing the physical-distancing rules related to COVID-19, educating residents and handing out tickets or fines to people found violating orders related to the province's emergency declaration.
Staying two metres away from people who are not in your family or household is mandatory, a rule that is outlined clearly in the emergency order.
Meanwhile, Public Health recommends limiting non-essential travel within the province. It's not something that is clearly outlined in the state of emergency order, leaving some residents confused as to what they can and can't do.
"What is actually a violation of the order versus what's just not following Public Health
recommendations can sometimes get a little bit muddied," said Jamie McConnell, a constitutional lawyer based in Saint John.
McConnell said the lack of clarity raises questions about what police are being told they can and can't do, too.
"There can be concerns over increased police powers when you have a state of emergency in effect," said
McConnell said police are allowed to pull motorists over anytime under the Motor Vehicle Act, but there's nothing in the state of emergency order that requires people in the car to answer questions, unless they are coming from out-of-province.
"There's nothing in the mandatory order that says police can stop you and you have to answer questions related to COVID-19," he said.
RCMP spokesperson Hans Ouelette has previously said that officers' first impulses will be to educate, rather than hand out tickets and fines.
McConnell said that doesn't mean people shouldn't use their common sense or not take recommendations about staying home seriously.
He also expects the mandatory order will be continuously updated, as Public Health figures out the best practice for certain situations, such as carpooling to work.
Hunting, fishing season delay doesn't affect treaty rights
The delay in the recreational hunting and fishing seasons will not impact First Nations and their Aboriginal and treaty rights, according to a spokesperson for the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development.
"However, everyone is asked to stay home and to only go out for work or essentials, avoid any non-essential travel, and practise physical distancing," Kelly Cormier said in an email Friday.
The provincial government announced Thursday it was imposing a two-week delay at minimum before re-evaluating the situation on April 30.
Should garden centres be deemed essential?
Farmer Brown's owner Lisa Brown says she believes garden centres should be deemed an essential service because of the demand for vegetable seeds and plants.
"We've had so many calls from people wanting to start their first garden, to pre-order their vegetable plants, it's just through the roof."
Brown said many people are concerned about food security.
"People want to grow their own food and they need the advice, they need the seeds, they need the starter plants, all those things."
"That's how much people are concerned about food."
Because of the demand, Brown has hired someone to deal with the phone calls and keep an inventory of what has been ordered.
What is usually a busy time for planting has turned into a busy time for sales.
"We're trying to do both at the same time."
Brown is now seeking clarity on whether garden centres can be considered essential and able to open during the state of emergency declared to control the spread of COVID-19.
New Brunswick has felt like a virtual ghost town since the state of emergency was declared and renewed. But who decided what had to close and what workers had to go home? 2:27
Brown said if garden centres were open so people could purchase flowers and shrubs for their property, people could more easily stay home.
Brown said her MLA toldl her garden centres could open as long as they maintained social distancing, but she wants the province to make this clear.
Calls to delay lobster fishing
Maritime and Quebec lobster processors say Ottawa should immediately delay fishing in all spring lobster fishing zones in the Gulf of St. Lawrence amid concerns about the COVID-19 outbreak and the cratering markets.
Twenty-four processors from the four provinces signed a letter to the premiers and Fisheries and Oceans Canada that also calls for financial aid for the industry.
The group called for a minimum two-week delay two weeks ago, but processors now say the situation has deteriorated.
"Unfortunately, the crisis has taken a significant turn for the worse and market conditions have degraded even more," the letter dated April 9 said. "A perfect storm is gathering in Canada's lobster industry."
Lobster processors want Ottawa to delay the start of the spring fishing season in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. (CBC)
Processors say they're concerned about being able to provide safe working conditions for their 10,000 workers.
"Our Canadian workers and their families are justifiably concerned about being called to work on May 1."
The group is also calling for a "significant industry contingency plan with a broad suite of support measures," including extending employment insurance benefits.
Premier Blaine Higgs said Thursday he wants the federal government to delay spring fishing.
"But I think if we had a choice it would be delayed at least for a few weeks and maybe maybe a little longer."
If the season is delayed, and especially if it's cancelled, Higgs said he would expect the federal government to provide compensation to fishers.
The federal government has postponed snow crab fishing in the gulf after consulting industry representatives.
N.B. farmers want action plan
Provincial farmers want to see an emergency plan on local food developed to improve market access and public food security, according to the president of the New Brunswick division for the National Farmers Union.
Rébeka Frazer-Chiasson told CBC News this week there are separate conversations happening in the province around helping farmers bring their products to market and what needs to be done to ensure households in need can put food on the table.
"We need to bring those conversations togethera and use New Brunswick farms to feed New Brunswick people," Frazer-Chiasson said.
Information Morning - Moncton
New Brunswick farmers call for emergency plan on local food
In the weeks since restrictive emergency measures were ordered, food banks have described the deficit they're facing in supply and funding, and gaps in food security could widen in a prolonged lockdown.
Frazer-Chiasson said with government assistance, local farmers could help fill those holes. She proposed changes to regulations and quotas for small-scale operations as well as ensuring direct-to-consumer access so more products can reach the public.
She said local farms could also develop agreements with food banks, nursing homes and hospitals
.
Some local farmers face serious economic hurdles during the pandemic, from labour issues to cash flow, and the government aid packages are not tailored to farms.
For instance, the federal wage subsidy program requires businesses to show a 30 per cent loss of revenue, a tricky situation for farmers to report in the short term. Disruption to operations on the farm will result in lost revenue months and months from now when produce is ready to sell, she said.
With files from Hadeel Ibrahim, Danielle McCreadie, Gail Harding and Colin McPhail
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David Amos
Methinks most importantly the people who are employed to be concerned about our investments and pensions etc should have asked Higgy et al why the lawyers working for the Yankee SEC were calling me last week N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Higgy et all should at least agree that is one many clever lawyers I predicted would step up to the plate N'esy Pas?
"Meanwhile, Public Health recommends limiting non-essential travel within the province. It's not something that is clearly outlined in the state of emergency order, leaving some residents confused as to what they can and can't do.
"What is actually a violation of the order versus what's just not following Public Health recommendations can sometimes get a little bit muddied," said Jamie McConnell, a constitutional lawyer based in Saint John.
McConnell said the lack of clarity raises questions about what police are being told they can and can't do, too.
"There can be concerns over increased police powers when you have a state of emergency in effect," said"
john smith
Reply to @David Amos: it is what ever the population allows the mounties do thats why its ambiguous
David Amos
Reply to @john smith: True
David Amos
Methinks some of Maritime lobster processors must recall our conversation last week N'esy Pas?
Jim Cyr
We could certainly begin to very gradually lift the lockdown right now. But here’s the problem with that: people are generally idiots who are not very responsible. So the second you loosen the lockdown a little, 20% of the population will rush right out and wreck the whole war on Coronavirus. And we will be right back where we started. That’s why Higgs and other leaders are going so slow in loosening things.
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
Methinks many would agree that Higgy has no clue what to do and when or
why. Thats why he keeps claiming to follow Russell's advice N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks its interesting that Rébeka Frazer-Chiasson the current president of the National Farmers Union New Brunswick and her partner a former president of the SANB don't call or write since Janet Matheson and I first crossed paths with them many years ago N'esy Pas?
Justin Gunther
Let's completely wreck the economy because the generation that got $30 unionized labor jobs right out of high school, and who have all of the retirement savings and own their houses mortgage-free are scared and want to stop the world for 18 months. Again I'm not trying to be insensitive but let's get real, who really wants to wake up and smell the commmiesocialism?
Let's get real NB it appears things are trending downwards and it wasn't even that bad to begin with.
Justin
Gunther
Reply to @Justin Gunther: $30/hr
Gil Murray
Reply to @Justin
Gunther: You keep saying you don't want to be insensitive and yet here
you are. Why are you targeting people who have paid off mortgages as if
that is a bad practice? Perhaps focus your innate criticism on the many
people across all generations who have built or purchased homes far
beyond what they ever needed or could really afford, purchase multiple
vehicles every 3 or 4 years, have massive LOC and CC debt, etc. They are
the ones experiencing hard times trying to meet their massive debt
payments on a very generous pandemic EI benefit because they spent far
beyond their means.
David Amos
Reply to @Gil Murray: Good Point
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Well put too
David Amos
Reply to @Gil Murray: Perhaps folks should Google "Harper and Bankers"
john smith
Reply to @Justin Gunther: i dont think the people want that i am very confident that this is top down driven and on recomendations by the same folks that want this to last until we are mandated to inject their medicine
Shawn McShane
You can't catch the same cold twice. Corona virus. We need antibody test. There is no vaccine for the common cold/corona. This is a fools game. Get the antibody test and lets get to work. Those with underlying illness and the elderly stay home. We will work and pay taxes to support you.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Shawn
McShane: The method Sweden has chose to deal with this. But the antibody
test is a must as soon as available for all
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: So you say EH Mr Jones?
Reply to @Ray Oliver: So you say EH Mr Jones?
Ray Oliver
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Who?
Reply to @David Amos: Who?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: You
Reply to @Ray Oliver: You
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
And its Constable Oliver to you. You should start CCing me in all your
fascinating emails you send to anyone who will listen
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks its illegal to impersonate a cop N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks its illegal to impersonate a cop N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks.. tell me more law dog. How many of these big cases you filed you actually won?
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks.. tell me more law dog. How many of these big cases you filed you actually won?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks I will call this dude to see what he thinks of you N'esy Pas?
The RCMP is starting a new way of issuing summary offence tickets.
As of Monday, RCMP Traffic Services in North Eastern Nova Scotia, including Bible Hill, the South Shore, Bridgewater and Cape Breton have been using a new electronic, or ESOT, system. Nova Scotia is the first province in Canada to implement the program.
"Today I had the opportunity to try this out and this system will improve the speed and the performance of our officers," said Insp. Ray Oliver, officer in charge of traffic services for the province.
"This will improve the safety of the public and our front-line officers."
Oliver said the system will help officers reduce the time spent writing tickets on roadsides. He said it can take upwards of 20 minutes for one ticket to be written and inputted into the computer. However, with the new system, that number can be down to about six minutes.
"Instead of manually writing everything down, the officer can take a driver's license and swipe it into a reader in the car and all the information is automatically uploaded," said Oliver.
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks I will call this dude to see what he thinks of you N'esy Pas?
The RCMP is starting a new way of issuing summary offence tickets.
As of Monday, RCMP Traffic Services in North Eastern Nova Scotia, including Bible Hill, the South Shore, Bridgewater and Cape Breton have been using a new electronic, or ESOT, system. Nova Scotia is the first province in Canada to implement the program.
"Today I had the opportunity to try this out and this system will improve the speed and the performance of our officers," said Insp. Ray Oliver, officer in charge of traffic services for the province.
"This will improve the safety of the public and our front-line officers."
Oliver said the system will help officers reduce the time spent writing tickets on roadsides. He said it can take upwards of 20 minutes for one ticket to be written and inputted into the computer. However, with the new system, that number can be down to about six minutes.
"Instead of manually writing everything down, the officer can take a driver's license and swipe it into a reader in the car and all the information is automatically uploaded," said Oliver.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
I bet with you he will pick right up on the first ring. Glad to know
I've got you all worked up in that shack in the middle of nowhere your
hiding in
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you are the dude who should be nervous N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Sometimes I go by Inspector Gadget too or Lieutenant Dan. Give them a ring will you?
Reply to @David Amos: Sometimes I go by Inspector Gadget too or Lieutenant Dan. Give them a ring will you?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Just yesterday you were Mr Jones Methinks desperate people do desperate things N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Just yesterday you were Mr Jones Methinks desperate people do desperate things N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Terrified. Between your knowledge of the law and close friendly contacts in law enforcement I'll be tossing and turning all night!
Ray Oliver
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: No I think bored people are having too much fun with someone like yourself who always has to have the last word and usually those words are as backwards as they come.
Reply to @David Amos: No I think bored people are having too much fun with someone like yourself who always has to have the last word and usually those words are as backwards as they come.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks you are trying to get my goat but you dudes know there is no
goat to be had. In my humble opinion only a cop can have his ID changed
while his comments remain the same Johnny Jakobs noticed that yesterday
as well N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BTW All the Feds on both sides of the 49th know that I blog and Tweet as i post
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: My guess is if they even track you that closely my tone is clearly sarcasm to wind a guy up right. In no way did I use a joking tone of being a constable to gain leverage from it. They're smarter than you.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks the real question is do you really think I am that dumb N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Trust that RCMP are very well aware of my connection with Staff Sgt Jones
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: All that unnecessary typing of methinks and nesy pas. Give the thumbs a little break!
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks if you had bothered to notice I already did N'esy Pas/
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You're fun. I like you.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: BS Furthermore things are already going "Poof" Methinks it was wise of me to blog it all first N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks the editing is desperately comical N"esy Pas?
Johnny Jakobs
Delay the lobster season till summer, after they molted. The foreign buyers will love the soft shell, no meat bugs and will probably pay top dollar....
Total sarcasm.
Delay it to long and the fishers may miss it.
Andrew Clarkson
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs:
Maybe they could give all the lobsters to the food banks? They are going to need a lot of food!
Maybe they could give all the lobsters to the food banks? They are going to need a lot of food!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Andrew Clarkson: Bugs and all send them to China as a THANK YOU at top dollar!
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Notice Mr Jones is bacK?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Nighty Night Mr Jones
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Later Gator!
Johnny Jakobs
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: no jimmy jones sightings here
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: His comment is above yours
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Methinks you should review our words N'esy Pas?
Chantal LeBouthi
Have a great weekend NB poeples the majority are staying homes and doing physical distancing even if is hard especially for teenagers and young adults
To seniors like the Queen said we will meet again don’t worry
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: I believe Chantal was not comparing seniors to the Queen. She
was quoting what the Queen said earlier in her address to the country
and wishing the same kind thoughts for our seniors.
Toby Tolly
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/covid-19-quebec-friday-april-10-1.5529028
your quebec leaders a bit out there dont ya think
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/covid-19-quebec-friday-april-10-1.5529028
your quebec leaders a bit out there dont ya think
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Queen of the greatest Commonwealth in the world ! So mant
great countries , England , Ireland , Scotland, Canada, Australia , you
know all the biggies ! And their Commonwealth Games are 2nd to none !
Not like some wannabes with small countries ( and even provinces )
trying to buy relevance !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: No , not your God , hers !
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lou
DumBell: Then you admit there's more than one? - All fabrications, just
like the the monarchy, aka the malarkey. Someone believing that someone
has a god-given right to rule over us trying to judge my intellect. Good
one!
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Lou Bell: I wouldn't count on God ;)
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Louu Bell Bell I'm an idiot: Worry pas, she can't.
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Methinks nobody cares if you can count or not N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks not one soul is worried about you N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Keep guessing.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks I don't have to guess when there is nobody to name N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Guess again.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks if you don't have a real name you don't exist N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: For the record I did not bother with the circus today until I noticed mean old Fred made your words go "Poof" Methinks that was unusual of him to do with one of his pen pals N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lou DumBell: Why should I try to keep up to what an old lady said on the other side of the pond? Which god should save her? - Zeus Bacchus, whatever? There, I posted it again just for you!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Too Too Funny Indeed
Methinks you SANB dudes must have enjoyed the fact that I sued that lady while running in the election of the 42nd Parliament N'esy Pas?
Methinks you SANB dudes must have enjoyed the fact that I sued that lady while running in the election of the 42nd Parliament N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks your fellow Quebecker talks just like our Queen N'esy Pas?
"Quebec's schools could still reopen in early May, Premier François Legault said Friday, citing the latest numbers on the coronavirus pandemic as further evidence the first wave is stabilizing.
"When Quebec is united as one, nothing can get in our way," he said, in perhaps the most positive remarks since his daily press conferences on the pandemic began.
"We Quebecers know one thing: In the heart of winter, we still know that spring will follow. We know better days are coming."
David Amos
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Methinks I made decent use of your tip N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks the cat must still have your tongue N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you must enjoy going "Poof" too N'esy Pas?
Chantal LeBouthiReply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
I will take our Majesty kind words any days of the week
That you prefer a republic like the US is your choice
Im sticking with the monarchy
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos:
I despise the separatists. I want a united bilingual Canada, from coast
to coast to coast. "Ad Mari Usque ad Mare".
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: nope, more like Germany, Ireland and many more better examples than the charade next door.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks it would not be wise to believe anything you claim until you get a real name N'esy Pas?
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks nasty people should say Hey to Higgy and their RCMP buddies for me as they try to snitch on their neighbours over Easter N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/04/nb-covid-19-roundup-police-have-power.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-1.5525933
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Police have the power to pull vehicles over, check on compliance
Dr. Jennifer Russell urges people not to gather for Easter weekend, with 3 new cases bringing total to 108
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 08, 2020 11:22 AM AT
Premier Blaine Higgs has been providing daily news updates throughout the work week since the outbreak started last month. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
Police and Public Safety officers have the power to pull vehicles over during the COVID-19 state of emergency to check whether the occupants are complying with the rules, Premier Blaine Higgs said Wednesday.
"We are in unusual times right now," he told reporters during the daily update in Fredericton.
"And although the directive is not to say, you know, you can't go from point A to point B within our province, the directive is, we encourage people to stay home and use their common sense and go for essential travel only."
Higgs said he personally commends the initiative being shown by officers to understand where people are going and why because that information will help the government make better decisions about what changes are required to limit possible exposure to the virus.
"The more the safety officers can glean from people, I'm not going to complain about it."
New Brunswick has three new confirmed cases of COVID-19, bringing the province's total to 108, the chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell announced on Wednesday.
Six COVID-19 patients remain in hospital, including four in the intensive care unit.
The new cases include:
- Zone 3, the Fredericton region: two people in their 60s.
- Zone 6, the Acadie-Bathurst region, one person in their 80s — the first case in that region.
Three new cases of COVID-19 were confirmed on Wednesday, including the first case in the Bathurst region. (CBC)
Higgs said officers might pull over carloads of people, for example, to ensure the occupants are all members of the same household because otherwise they would be in violation of the requirement to keep a physical distance of at least six feet or about two metres.
"If someone … [drives] around their community, they don't get out of the car, they're family, they're not friends and neighbours, just travelling — you know are we going to fine them for that? No, we're not going to find them for that.
"But there is a common sense element here," he said. "Don't take anything for granted, don't take any chances."
He believes there have been instances of people travelling through different communities — and even attempting to cross New Brunswick borders — for something as basic as a cup of coffee.
Why would you put yourself at risk or why would you put others at risk at a time like this?
- Blaine Higgs, premier"That's not an essential service. Maybe some think it is, but basically right now it's not."
The province has also been getting questions from "different communities" about what to do about unwanted visitors, Higgs said.
Although he doesn't want to put up borders between communities, people have to start using their judgment and stop making unnecessary visits to communities they don't live in.
"Why would you put yourself at risk or why would you put others at risk at a time like this?"
Here is a roundup of other developments.
Weekend could be 'turning point,' Higgs says
Of the 108 cases, 60 are travel-related, 33 are close contacts of confirmed cases, six are the result of community transmission and nine remain under investigation.
The province continues to do better than many jurisdictions in terms of the number of cases and hospitalizations, chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell told reporters during the daily update in Fredericton.
It would be tragic to see an upsurge in cases next week if New Brunswickers ignore the advice of Public Health to stay home and choose instead to gather over Easter weekend, she said.
"You may think, 'It's just my family,' or 'It's just my friends.' But the COVID-19 virus may be an uninvited guest at your table, brought along by someone who has only mild symptoms, or no symptoms at all. Do not let that happen."
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, held a briefing with reporters Wednesday afternoon. (Photo: Government of New Brunswick)
In-person religious services and recreational events are also prohibited, but Premier Blaine Higgs said he is aware of at least two ATV rallies planned for the weekend.
He called them a "mistake."
"A rally exposes you to friends and neighbours unnecessarily," he said.
Fifty of the 108 infected people have recovered to date, "which shows we are gradually improving," said Higgs.
But "that could all be lost this weekend," he said.
He cited the example of a funeral in Newfoundland, where one person with no evident symptoms quickly multiplied to 143 cases.
"This long weekend could be the turning point," he stressed. This is not the time to be complacent.
"We must stay strong, stay focused and stay home."
Enforcement officers will be out over the weekend, Higgs said. The goal continues to be to educate, he said.
"Ideally, no one will be ticketed. Ideally, everyone will be following the rules."
Passover Seder will be different
For the Jewish community, Passover starts Wednesday at sundown and lasts for eight days.
Most Jewish families celebrate Seder, where they retell the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt. Then, they take part in a special meal.
Afterwards, families sing traditional songs.
But this year might look a bit different.
"The fact that we cannot gather as a family anymore is going to be hard," said Francis Weil, president of Tiferes Israel Synagogue in Moncton.
New Brunswick pharmacists imposed a 30-day limit to prescription refills last month. (Elise Amendola/The Associated Press)
"Only the family [who] lives together can do it. But brothers and sisters cannot get together and that's going to be very hard this year."
Typically, observant Jews aren't supposed to use technology during this holiday, but Weil said it's a way for family to still be together during the traditional holiday.
He was celebrating Passover over Skype on Wednesday afternoon with his daughter and her family, who live in France.
"The important thing is to remain safe."
Pharmacists urge people to respect 30-day prescription rule
The New Brunswick Medical Society and New Brunswick Pharmacists' Association are urging residents to respect efforts to limit prescriptions to 30 days.
The 30-day limit on prescription refills was imposed by pharmacists in late March to protect the province's drug supply.
"We understand that this is a challenging, frustrating time for New Brunswickers," the two groups said in a news release Wednesday.
"Please do not direct your frustration on the health-care professionals who are doing their best to take care of your needs and those of your families while risking their own health and safety, as well as that of their loved ones."
All 233 pharmacies in the province have stayed open during the pandemic, medical health officer Dr. Jennifer Russell said Wednesday.
In the last few weeks, New Brunswick pharmacists have seen a surge in demand for medical supplies and medications as a result of the global COVID-19 pandemic.
Francis Weil, president of Tiferes Israel Synagogue in Moncton, talks about Passover in a Skype interview with CBC News. (Photo: CBC News)
The news release said health-care professionals are working together to try to ensure medications are available for all patients.
Once the pharmacy regulatory authorities across Canada are confident in the security of the drug supply, pharmacies will be able to return to normal practice.
"By limiting supply to 30 days, pharmacists are taking a proactive step to ensure their patients continue to have access to their medications," she said.
Expiry date for lotto tickets extended
The Atlantic Lottery Corporation has extended the expiry date for winning tickets.
In a release issued Tuesday, the corporation granted players an extra six months to claim prizes for tickets that have an expiry date from March 17, 2020, to Sept. 17, 2020.
In addition to draw-based games, the extension also applies to scratch tickets.
Tech group develops COVID-19 tracking tool for Saint John food program
A volunteer tech group in Saint John is developing a tracking tool to help a local food program see who their employees are coming into contact with.
Civic Tech, a group that tries to come up with solutions to community problems, has created a tool to assist in tracking who relies on the Greater Saint John Emergency Food Program.
COVID-19 has led pharmacists to limit prescription refills to a 30-day supply. (NIAID-RML/The Associated Press/The Canadian Press)
This will help the non-profit organization track the potential spread of COVID-19 in the area.
"You want to be able to track who's touched what in an infectious disease situation," said Lorna Brown, a member of Civic Tech.
About 10 people are involved in building the tool, which could be used by Public Health for contact tracking.
Before Civic Tech came up with the idea, the Greater Saint John Emergency Food Program was using an Excel spreadsheet to track who had packed food bags, who delivered them and who received them.
Civic Tech is hoping to deploy the tool in the coming weeks.
RV company donates vehicles to health-care workers
An RV dealership in Moncton is donating motor-homes to frontline health-care workers needing to self-isolate.
"I just feel like it's something that we have to do," said Matthew Brown, general manager and owner of Pine Acres Moncton.
Brown saw a Facebook post from another RV company in Canada that was offering up its RVs to health-care workers, and decided he should do the same.
Twelve RVs are available for use.
So far, 40 people have expressed interest in acquiring an RV.
Brown plans to restrict distribution to people living in the Moncton area.
The RVs come equipped with fridges and a bed.
Any cloth covering that fits snugly works as a face covering, said chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell on Tuesday, but she reminded people to wash after every use. 1:31
"All they need to do is have a hot water hose and some power hookup for us."
The company will drop off the RV and set it up, without coming into contact with the person receiving the vehicle. It will also send a video via text giving a quick tour of the unit and how to use it.
There's no time limit on how long people can keep the RV.
"As long as this pandemic is still going and they're working in the health-care system, then obviously we're going to make sure that they're protecting themselves as well as their family."
The difference between allergy symptoms and COVID-19
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said there are many similarities between COVID-19, seasonal allergies and the flu.
Although COVID-19 has many symptoms, a cough and fever are still the main symptoms health-care workers are looking for.
"Most people with allergies would have burning eyes and runny nose and sneezing," she said.
What to do if you have symptoms?
Symptoms of coronavirus include fever, cough or breathlessness. In this case, residents should:
- Stay at home.
- Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions carefully.
With files from Sarah Morin, Colin McPhail
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Meghan Clark
My fiance and I still technically live apart. Are we going to be fined for walking or driving together? We are both socially distancing but law enforcement can't take our word over what it says on our licences.
David Amos
Reply to @Meghan
Clark: Methinks whereas Higgy's buddy Chucky Leblanc can drive all over
the province with his lady friend whom he does not live with in his
welfare abode and brag of it within his blog and Facebook etc You and
your fiance should not be harassed by the cops N'esy Pas?
Pat Holland
Reply to @David Amos:
You have seen Higgs and Leblanc driving together with an unknown woman?? Sounds like a conspiracy at the highest levels.
Johnny Almar
Good. Now the cottage goers can be fined. Thank you Premier Higgs. Make them stay home.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny
Almar:Methinks you should say Hey to Higgy and your RCMP buddies for me
as you snitch on your neighbours N'esy Pas?
Jim Johnston
Reply to @Johnny Almar: ??? I didn't see anything about that. If someone owns two homes, a summer and winter home, and they keep to themselves regardless which house they are in, they are not breaking any of the regulations.
Jim Johnston
Maybe the warning should be if we find a car load of unrelated people they will all be walking home. For many that would be enough to stay out of that situation.
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Johnston: A friend called last evening to tell me about what happened to him in Higgy's Police State. He is a retired military guy who lives in the hills outside of Sussex. He does not have the Internet. Yesterday he did what he has often done for years when he comes to town. He pulled into Tim's and parked and began checking his email and the news etc byway of their free WiFi. Lets just say the RCMP pounced on him and threatened that all kinds of mean nasty ugly things would happen to him his did such a thing again. Methinks many folks know why I am grinning as I hear Higgy yapping on radio right now about property tax etc. Trust that I don't care that desperate conservatives claim I am unknown or vague or a failure as a politician Vicky et al know why Higgy and the RCMP should not enjoy an email from me later today N'esy Pas?
Terry Hughes
Reply to @David Amos: Koo Koo, Koo Koo
Robert Buck
Reply to @David Amos: You know there are two sides to every story.
Robert Buck
Here is the emergency order. Everyone please read it. It is not complicated. https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Corporate/pdf/EmergencyUrgence19.pdf
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Buck: Is it legal?
Robert Buck
Reply to @David Amos. Just read the second paragraph. That gives the authority. Do you want me to post the link for the Emergency Measures Act?
Murray Brown
There is disease
referred to as hysteria and another referred to as paranoia .. Our
politicians and media appear to have a very sever case of both.
David Amos
Reply to @Murray Brown: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Edward Andrews
Did I miss something here? Higgs is saying its ok to go from point A to point B within the province but we should stay home? Higgs its ok to go to C, D, E, F as well and I don't need permission and I don't need police to be asking me about my business as they only information they will get is what they are entitled to under law. The won't get any information about where I'm going, where I have been, what my purpose of travelling is. I'm good with distancing and not gathering as means to slow the spread but the cure is quickly becoming worse than the virus. I'm not good with Higgs suggesting there are rules in place that don't exist or that suddenly charter rights have been fully suspended.
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Edward Andrews:
And not much transparency
And not much transparency
Pat Holland
Reply to @Edward Andrews:
You may want to read the government’s power during a state of emergency! It is exactly that, your charter rights are suspended and you can be charged as they wish if you don’t follow the rules set out.
You may want to read the government’s power during a state of emergency! It is exactly that, your charter rights are suspended and you can be charged as they wish if you don’t follow the rules set out.
Chantal
LeBouthi
Reply to @Pat Holland:
It doesn’t mean trying to create your own marshal law
The only poeples who can declare marshal law is the federal government
It doesn’t mean trying to create your own marshal law
The only poeples who can declare marshal law is the federal government
Chantal
LeBouthi
Reply to @Pat Holland:
And this isn’t a state emergency
Is a public health emergency
And this isn’t a state emergency
Is a public health emergency
Edward Andrews
Reply to @Pat Holland:
You may want to read the actual declaration and the laws regarding the
declaration of a state of emergency and mandatory order. Our charter
rights are not suspended, some right may be limited and only in 14 day
increments as the declaration must be renewed every 14 days. Yes you can
be charged for not following the order under the limits prescribed
within the declaration. Nothing in this order prevents movement within
NB. Higgs continually infers that powers have been enacted that have
not. Limiting travel into the province is indicated, (doubt it would
survive a charter challenge except in the most flagrant cases) social
distancing of 2m is indicated travel in and around NB is not discussed
at all.
Edward Andrews
Reply to @Chantal
LeBouthi: It is a state of emergency, the declaration and mandatory
order has been issued and renewed most recent as April 2nd. It will need
to be renewed on Apr 16 and every 14 days with the Lt Governors consent
and approval. Government does have broad powers under a state of
emergency but as well meaning as they may be the people will limit those
powers by ignoring rules that don't make sense and this is where the
sword cuts both ways. Government cracking down will lead to social
disorder and breakdown as people will tolerate having they right limited
for a limited time and in limited ways that serve the greater good. I
have no issues with limiting this but if I'm minding my own business
driving around to get out of the house I don't expect to be interfered
with by police and therefore have someone breathing into my car window
that has higher risks of exposure than me.
David Amos
Reply to @Edward Andrews: BINGO
Pat Holland
Reply to @Edward Andrews:
Because it is clear you haven't read it I thought I would put the section that applies there for you it is quite clear they can limit travel
Emergency Measures Act (R.S.N.B. 2011, c.147)
Pat Holland
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
March 19 as per GNB website " state of emergency declared in New Brunswick" In response to a health crisis. So yes this province is under a state of emergency
Edward Andrews
Reply to @Pat Holland: Oh Pat, one thing that is clear is you have not read the actual declaration and seem to believe the Act and the declaration are one and the same. The Act enables such declarations and the content of the declaration must be both reasonable and based on facts to respond to the immediate threats. Dig a bit deeper for your education Pat. I agree a SoE, as allowed under the Emergency Measures Act, has been declared. I agree the government "can" suspend charter rights under such a declaration. The fine point is "can". Now go read the actual declaration and mandatory order, its right there on the NB gov page. You'll see what powers and orders Higgs has put in place and that have been approved by the Lt Gov, as is required. If you read it you will see what rights are being limited. Those limitations not expressly included in the declaration are not limited in any way and remain intact and available to all. Higgs is making personal appeals sound like orders (not included in the declaration) and needs to not blur the two at this time and endanger the public through over zealous police enforcement.
Marguerite Deschamps
Hogwash! Trumps said it would be business as usual by Easter.
Pat Holland
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
You are mis quoting that.
He said it would be nice to see things open by Easter followed by wouldn’t it be nice to see people back to work by Easter and churches full of people celebrating Easter
You are mis quoting that.
He said it would be nice to see things open by Easter followed by wouldn’t it be nice to see people back to work by Easter and churches full of people celebrating Easter
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @Pat
Holland: He may have said that later. I heard him with my two ears state
that he intended to have the country opened by Easter. This is how you
recognize Trump, he flip flops all the time.
Pat
Holland
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
I tried sending the link to the actual video as well as the politico transcript where it it clear in his speech from the rose garden he said he would “love to open” the economy again not he was going to.
It would not allow me to upload it.
I tried sending the link to the actual video as well as the politico transcript where it it clear in his speech from the rose garden he said he would “love to open” the economy again not he was going to.
It would not allow me to upload it.
Edward Andrews
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Hey ah, you do realize this is Canada and Trump isn't the PM
here, right? We have our own flip flopping, character challenged
politician to muse about.
David Amos
Reply to @Edward Andrews: Methinks the SANB dudes want folks to ignore those facts N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Pat Holland: That's the flip flop you were looking for.
Pat Holland
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
Not looking for flip flop at all, But when people misquote things to push a narrative or stoke fear and hate for another it becomes troubling and not very helpful in times like these.
David Amos
Reply to @Pat Holland: Methinks you should learn to read before you attack people N'esy Pas?
Chantal LeBouthi
Quebec will test every seniors in nursing home to protect the seniors
Lou Bell
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: They better ! Quebec's a mess !!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Too late ! That's already been compromise ! La Bigly !!
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Lou Bell:
?
?
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @Lou
DumBell: Alberta is much more of a mess right now! And how would you
know about Quebec if it's lost in translation?
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: at least their Premier is able to address his minority in
their language as opposed to your hero here.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks you should checkout the Anglophone webapages you are
commenting on a little closer even though this is the English side of
CBC Higgy is clearly speaking French on occasion N'esy Pas?
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply
to @David Amos: I listen to both the English and French side and his
French, which is improving, I admit, is almost nonexistent.David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you SANB dudes flip flop just like Trump and Trudeau N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-transfer-payments-abortion-access-1.5527586
Feds penalize province for lack of abortion access, but reimburse payments because of COVID-19
Federal Health Minister's office says payments reduced by $140,000 because of lack of abortion access
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 09, 2020 12:10 PM AT
Health Minister Patty Hajdu's office said reimbursement of the $140,000 penalty is temporary. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
The federal government took away $140,000 in transfer payments to New Brunswick as a penalty for not providing adequate abortion access.
But then gave it back.
Before the COVID-19 pandemic hit the country, the government found New Brunswick was violating the Canada Health Act by not covering out-of-hospital abortions under Medicare.
As a result, it deducted $140,216 from the annual health transfer payments that were paid out in March. That's how much money New Brunswickers spent out-of-pocket on abortions at a clinic in 2017, when they were supposed to be covered.
However, because of the pressure on the health system caused by the novel coronavirus, the federal government has decided to reimburse that amount, according to a statement shared by the Minister of Health Patty Hajdu's office.
Health Minister Ted Flemming said the Health Act has a dispute mechanism that the federal government can use, but he believes New Brunswick is compliant. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
The statement said the reimbursement was "temporary", but it did not provide a timeline.
"As the prime minister has said, we will ensure that the New Brunswick government eliminates patient charges for abortion services outside of hospitals," said Hajdu's spokesperson Cole Davidson.
The statement said discussions about reducing barriers to abortion are continuing.
During the daily COVID-19 news conference Thursday, Premier Blaine Higgs said the province's position has been clear from the beginning: "that we're not funding a private clinic in New Brunswick."
"We're meeting the Canada Health rules and the Canada Health Act," Higgs said
Dr. Adrian Edgar, medical director of Clinic 554. (CBC)
Minister of Health Ted Flemming said the Canada Health Act is a funding statute that has a dispute resolution mechanism.
New Brunswick provides abortions in two hospitals in Moncton — the Moncton Hospital and the Dr. Georges-L.-Dumont University Hospital Centre — and the Chaleur Regional Hospital in Bathurst.
In late February, Hajdu said "Obviously there is an inequity in terms of access to services, and under their proposed regime women are not covered in very specific regions."
New Brunswick received $860 million in health transfer payments in 2020.
Barriers remain
Dr. Adrian Edgar of Clinic 554, New Brunswick's only abortion clinic, said COVID-19 has thrown up even more barriers to people seeking abortion services.
He said travelling to get abortions in hospitals is riskier now because of COVID-19. He said allowing abortions in clinics would make the process safer.
"If they would just fund everything we do, including abortions, patients in the southern part of the province wouldn't have to travel during a pandemic and they wouldn't be asked to enter a hospital when we're trying to limit all unnecessary hospital visits," he said.
"Patients accessing abortion services at Horizon's The Moncton Hospital will be screened before entering the hospital," she said.
Vitalite spokesperson Thomas Lizotte said surgical abortion services in Chaleur Regional Hospital and Dr. Georges-L.-Dumont University Hospital Centre are still operational despite the COVID-19 pandemic.
"Nothing has changed," he said.
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David Amos
Methinks Health Minister Patty Hajdu's office should review their emails ASAP N'esy Pas?
Jef Cronkhite
Reply to @David Amos: After months of seeing this, I'm sorry, I have to say something.
FIRSTLY it's "n'est pas" NOT "n'ecy pas" "N'ecy pas" does NOT exist in English NOR French
SECONDLY the same as every word in a sentence in English does NOT need to be capitalized, we also DO NOT capitalize every word in French, either.
THIRDLY Perhaps you think ending EACH AND EVERY post with this incorrect phrase makes you appear pithy and fresh, PLEASE believe me when I tell you - IT DOES NOT....
FIRSTLY it's "n'est pas" NOT "n'ecy pas" "N'ecy pas" does NOT exist in English NOR French
SECONDLY the same as every word in a sentence in English does NOT need to be capitalized, we also DO NOT capitalize every word in French, either.
THIRDLY Perhaps you think ending EACH AND EVERY post with this incorrect phrase makes you appear pithy and fresh, PLEASE believe me when I tell you - IT DOES NOT....
BruceJack
Speculator
Reply to @Jef
Cronkhite: Thank you. Glad to see a direct response to that particular
poster whose comments never add anything except various forms of "Look
at me".
BruceJack
Speculator
Reply to @BruceJack
Speculator: or should I have said: "Regardez moi". And actually I
thought what the other poster uses all the time was a fake form of
"n'est-ce pas?" meaning "Is it not?"
David Amos
Reply to @BruceJack
Speculator: Methinks you dudes forgot to ask me if I cared what you
think about my choice of lingos However no doubt you know why I am
honoured by the the fact that you hate me N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Jef Cronkhite: "Remote Complex Technical Support Analyst"
Yea Right Methinks you should learn how to use Google N'esy Pas?
Yea Right Methinks you should learn how to use Google N'esy Pas?
James
Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @Jef Cronkhite: Hands down the best post I've read on this forum to date. Keep up the good work!!
David Amos
Reply to @James Jones: Methinks its and interesting day for you to pick a fight with me N'esy Pas?
James
Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Why is this day any different than the previous ones? Did my RCMP
buddies or best bud Higgy do something you want to tease me over? Please
use material others will understand also not just you
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @James Jones: boing
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @James Jones: er
David Amos
Reply to @James
Jones: How much of my work have you Higgy/RCMP fans already refused to
read? Federal Court File No T-1557-15 is a pretty good example.
Methinks everybody knows you partake of too much blue kool aid to bother
arguing with and its impossible to fix stupid anyway N'esy Pas?
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos:
take a hint man. If you actually were as awesome as you think you are ,
you would have been elected by now...but alas, you are something out of
this world for sure
David Amos
Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks I should feel honoured that you hate me N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I should ask people who hate me so much is that any reason to justify why both Health Ministers would deny my right to Health Care? Imagine if such a time happened to you I bet you would complain N'esy Pas?
Tim Biddiscombe
We were lucky to get that money back..
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Methinks you have no clue how deep the rabbit hole goes N'esy Pas?
David News
It is a shame that in NB our health system across the board is substandard compared to the other Canadian provinces. The government rations so many services that are generally readily available for free in the rest of the country. Lets see, blood tests, full medicals on an annual basis, oh the ability to actually go to a clinic and discuss and address more than one issue with the doctor, or better yet actually get a family doctor. Why is it a surprise that the province ration's medical services that are protected by the charter of rights for women. Only in NB eh! Shame on the current and previous provincial governments for not investing in a rigorous health system that actually address's all of the needs of N Bers
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @David News: It was $140k out of out over $1B and we got it back.
David Amos
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: Methinks on Good Friday I bet you and a lot of beancounters
in Beantown recall how many beans I sued Cardinal Bernard Francis Law
for in 2002 N'esy Pas?
eddy watts
What about other provinces who follow the law....will they get extra $$?? Yes it's ($$) needed in NB, but not at the expense of women's rights.
David Amos
Reply to @eddy watts: Methinks everybody knows that is the problem THERE IS NO LAW N'esy Pas?
Mike Morton
Liberals playing politics during the pandemic again...
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @Mike Morton: Maybe you should ask the Sheer incompetent about that too?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks even Lou Bell and you SANB dudes know why I am
playing politics to the max with the mindless Health Ministers N'esy
Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps Methinks your buddy Lou Bell just made and interesting statement N'esy Pas?
:"With the GREAT daily updates we're getting it has sure stifled the Liberal naysayers going after Higgs .They must be really , really be keeping their fingers crossed for some type of negative news. Marc , Maggie , and others have been pretty well muzzled . Need new orders I guess from melanson and the Shediac 5 ".
:"With the GREAT daily updates we're getting it has sure stifled the Liberal naysayers going after Higgs .They must be really , really be keeping their fingers crossed for some type of negative news. Marc , Maggie , and others have been pretty well muzzled . Need new orders I guess from melanson and the Shediac 5 ".
Bruce Sanders
"adequate abortion access" Why should any Canadian have their hard earned taxes given to people for a life choice they have made. Well, Morgentaler would be so proud.
eddy watts
Reply to @Bruce
Sanders: yes and lets make sure that smokers have no access to cancer
treatment....people that drink no access to treatment.....people that
eat too
much (obese) no heart treatment etc etc...punishing women (only) for life choices smacks of "hate" to me.
much (obese) no heart treatment etc etc...punishing women (only) for life choices smacks of "hate" to me.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @eddy watts: Very good point!
David Amos
Reply to @Bruce
Sanders: Methinks some seated politicians should finally step up to the
plate and defend the unborn. Just because there is no law pertaining to
abortion and its claimed that they have no rights until they breathe air
it does not excuse the evil actions of Morgentaler and his many cohorts
against them over the years N'esy Pas?
Axel Roosevelt
How was 140k supposed to be any kind of punishment? $140,000 is less than a rounding error in government money terms, it's more like the equivalent of dropping a nickel somewhere.
David Amos
Reply to @Axel
Roosevelt: Methinks if our duly elected but very mindless biased
beancounters looked after our nickel and dimes then the big buck budgets
would balance themselves N'esy Pas?
Frank Ward
In the Last Days, Good will be called Evil .
And Evil called Good.
BruceJack Speculator
Reply to @Frank Ward: ?
Matthew Smith
Reply to @Frank Ward:
and bread will be called butter and butter bread, fish will be called
fowl and fowl fish.... I see the game you're playing now!
David Amos
Reply to @Matthew Smith: What game are you playing?
Johnny Almar
Taxpayers should not have to pay for little Suzy's night of fun.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: So you say but what are you doing about it?
Donald Gallant
Reply to @Johnny Almar:
Same for little Johnny.
Same for little Johnny.
Arish Moogadoo
You'd think that in the middle of a pandemic that the federal government would have better things to do than to continue to persecute New Brunswick.
David Amos
Reply to @Arish Moogadoo: Exactly
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Arish Moogadoo: More importantly to me is why do both Heath Ministers deny my right to Health Care?
David Amos
Reply to @Arish Moogadoo: Methinks its very interesting when and why things go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Arish Moogadoo
Canada has been knee capping our province since 1867 and then telling us to be grateful for the money they give us, all the while telling us how to run our province. Time to keep the borders in place once this crisis is over and get back our traditional New England trade routes. So sick of the way these Canadians treat this province and how they keep telling us what to do! Anyone notice how the national networks cover every other province but pretend New Brunswick doesn't exist? It seems we're in a federation who doesn't like us.
Jef
Cronkhite
Reply to @Arish
Moogadoo: Unfortunately, those "traditional New England trade routes no
loner exist. YES, it sucks they way we are treated, but we're here, now,
and we have to be adults about it. We can't go throwing hissy-fits, and
threaten separation, like the Western Provinces, or Quebec. Like it or
not we ALL live in a Global Economy, and closing borders would make
matters WORSE, not better.
I'm with you that we are NOT treated well compared with other regions, but we combat that by PROVING our worth, not whining and crying about it
I'm with you that we are NOT treated well compared with other regions, but we combat that by PROVING our worth, not whining and crying about it
Arish Moogadoo
Reply to @Jef
Cronkhite: Yes they do exist, our forestry and petroleum sectors are
very integrated. I'm not threatening separation, I'm wishing for it.
Jef
Cronkhite
Reply to @Arish
Moogadoo: YES, we have forest connections, but those are owned and
operated by Irving and their subsidiaries. You think they're just going
to hand them over to us? We DO NOT have an petroleum sectors. 100% of
the oil processed here in Saint John comes from overseas. Not a single
DROP of Canadian oil is processed here.
What we REALLY have is fishing and farming and, although great for feeding the masses, neither is an industry we can stand alone on.
I don't like it any batter than you do, but we are dependent on the rest of Canada for our survival..
.
What we REALLY have is fishing and farming and, although great for feeding the masses, neither is an industry we can stand alone on.
I don't like it any batter than you do, but we are dependent on the rest of Canada for our survival..
.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Jef
Cronkhite: We do not have a petroleum sector because Canada lacks
leadership and knowledge as well as a weak constitution that the SC
ignored that basically gave those with certain birthrights an invitation
to intervene on anything they have time for; which seems like all the
time.
David Amos
Reply to @Arish Moogadoo: Me Too
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @Arish Moogadoo: the point powers most of new england...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-new-brunswick-projections-modelling-1.5527065
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Businesses could begin opening as early as summer, Higgs says
New Brunswick government also releases its COVID-19 case projections
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 09, 2020 12:25 PM AT
Premier Blaine Higgs said, depending how the next weeks and months, New Brunswick could begin rebooting the provincial economy this summer. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
Premier Blaine Higgs said Thursday there's a chance New Brunswick could begin jump-starting the economy and regain a sense of normalcy within a matter of months.
"There is hope New Brunswick can return to normal in some form this summer," Higgs declared during the regular afternoon media briefing after the province announced three new confirmed cases of COVID-19.
That brings the provincial total to 111, a number that officials and researchers say shows the restrictive measures in place are working — so far. But hauling back restrictions, or non-compliance, could have devastating and deadly consequences for New Brunswickers and their health-care system, according to new projections released Thursday.
Higgs said his government is considering the steps it would take to allow businesses to reopen. That includes maintaining physical distancing practices in the meantime and testing for potential carriers returning to the workplace.
"Then we look at each business and we say, 'OK, how can this one operate, how can it meet the social distancing required in the situation, and how can we allow it to start up," he said.
Opportunities New Brunswick, which is co-ordinating the program for working capital loans between $100,000 and $1 million, is now assisting 1,200 businesses.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says it will take months of Canadians' "continued, determined effort" to follow pandemic measures such as physical distancing to overcome COVID-19. 1:55
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wasn't as optimistic in his remarks Thursday, saying "this is the new normal" until a vaccine is developed, which could be a year or two away.
Higgs said any move to reopen businesses would depend on how the next weeks and months play out and the economy won't be fully restarted until there is a vaccine.
But the premier is concerned about the financial fallout.
"We believe there is a balance here because if people don't have a job, if they don't have income, if they don't have a future that they can see and a livelihood, they can become more stressed, we can have social situations that become unbearable and we don't want to see that happen," he said.
More than 64,000 people applied for the province's one-time $900 payment for affected workers.
In an interview Thursday morning with CBC News, Higgs also explained how the provincial government coffers have been hit by the pandemic. The province is losing out on $40 million in revenue per month, and Higgs said he's concerned about equalization transfer payments with Alberta's economy "devastated."
It raises questions about how the government will maintain critical services in a prolonged shutdown.
Information Morning - Fredericton
An update from the Premier
"We're saying, 'Are we going to be able to borrow money?' We need to maintain critical services and be able to supply everyone what they need," said Higgs, who even raised the notion of applying for federal disaster funding.
"So, how we get businesses up and running and contributing again is a focus because we need that source of revenue."
Here is a roundup of other developments.
3 new cases include child, two adults in same family
The province announced three new confirmed cases of COVID-19 on Thursday.
All three cases are in the Fredericton area. Cases include a person under the age of 10, a person between 30 and 39 years old and a third 40 to 49 years-old. All of the cases are in one family after one family member travelled from Ontario more than a week ago, Premier Blaine Higgs said.
"I want it to be clear how easy it is to not only have your family impacted, but how easy it is to spread to other members of the community," he said.
These new cases bring the total number of cases up to 111.
There are 111 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. (Photo: CBC News )
The number of COVID cases continues to rise, but slowly, said Dr. Jennifer Russsell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health.
Fifty-three people have recovered from the virus.
Government releases COVID-19 projections
COVID-19 could kill between 550 and 1,750 New Brunswickers over the next 18 to 24 months, until a vaccine is available, projections released by the provincial government Thursday reveal.
"These aren't just figures on a graph. These are people. These are New Brunswickers," Premier Blaine Higgs said.
Between 15 and 132 could die by the end of this month, Health Minister Ted Flemming said.
Had there been no public health measures, as many as 5,600 New Brunswickers could have died, said Flemming.
The number of people in intensive care could hit a peak of 84 on any given day this month, under the worst-case scenario model, which was based on northern Italy's data, he said, and acute care hospitalizations, 194.
Caution tape hangs over chairs at the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital that aren't allowed to be used by patients to promote physical distancing. (Photo: Elizabeth Fraser/CBC News)
At least another two weeks of data is required to be able to project a peak of the pandemic.
Some other provinces, such as Ontario, Alberta and Quebec, previously released their projections.
Higgs said New Brunswick's relatively low numbers to date make accurate projections challenging.
"And that's been kind of the focus here is how accurate can we be?
"We want to make sure people realize this is very, very real. The potential is very, very high. And so the situation that we present … needs to be as accurate as possible."
Virus consistently turns up less frequently in New Brunswick
As of Tuesday, when New Brunswick had 105 cases of COVID-19, it had the fewest cases per capita of all the provinces.And while New Brunswick has tested less for COVID-19 than most provinces, in testing that has been done, the virus consistently turns up less frequently in New Brunswick than elsewhere — once in every 58 tests since the beginning of the pandemic last month.
By comparison, in neighbouring Nova Scotia the virus has shown up once in every 35 tests and in Quebec, once in every 13 tests.
New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, Dr. Jennifer Russell, said she supports making the province's projections public.
The modelling is important, she said, so the province can be prepared and adjust plans, if required.
Province delays hunting and fishing season
The province will delay the opening of recreational fishing and hunting season for a minimum of two weeks.
This position will be evaluated again on April 30.
According to the government's website, all Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development have been ordered to close until further notice.
Stay home over Easter weekend
This week, Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell have been urging people to stay home and to avoid family gatherings and church services over the Easter weekend.
Right now, Higgs said, New Brunswickers are doing what Public Health is asking of them to flatten the curve and slow the spread of COVID-19.
"If we continue to follow the rules closely, we can be a game changer in New Brunswick," Higgs said.
Earlier this week, Higgs said he was aware of at least two ATV rallies planned for the weekend, but on Thursday, Higgs said organizations like the New Brunswick All Terrain Vehicle Federation have made it clear they aren't going to sanction any rallies.
"This isn't the weekend to head out," he said.
Police and RCMP officers have the authority to enforce the rules against gatherings of any kind, Higgs said.
"Will they proceed with that enforcement? I hope it won't be necessary. But if it is, yes they will. We must adhere to the rules for our own health and safety."
Province's income benefit program ends Thursday
The deadline for the provincial emergency income benefit has come to a close. The $900 was meant to help New Brunswickers who have lost their jobs due to COVID-19.
Despite concerns raised around access to the benefit, Premier Blaine Higgs remained strong that there would be no extension.
"It was very, very clearly a stopgap until the federal government benefit was going to come into play," said Higgs of the $900.
According to government's recent projections, COVID-19 could kill between 550 and 1,750 New Brunswickers over the next 12 to 24 months. (Photo: Government of New Brunswick)
New Brunswickers were told they would have until 8 p.m. Thursday night to register for the benefit.
But that wasn't the case for some New Brunswickers, like Samantha Williams. The Sussex woman called the line Thursday morning, and after waiting for just over an hour, was told registration for the benefit was already closed and it could not be reopened.
"I'm definitely a little disappointed. I mean I was really counting on that money. It's a scary time for sure and you never really know what's going to happen," she said.
On Thursday morning, Higgs told Information Morning Fredericton that there were "technical issues" on the GNB website, which resulted in them closing online registration earlier than expected.
On Tuesday, Higgs said more than 60,000 people applied for the benefit to date, and more than $20 million had already been paid out.
Liberal MLA for Moncton Centre Robert McKee called on the government to extend the New Brunswick workers emergency income benefit for people who lost their jobs or had to close their business because of the COVID-19 outbreak
But McKee said members of the Liberal caucus have received "many" calls in recent days from people experiencing problems with online applications and in trying to reach someone on the phone.
Premier hopes to delay fishery
Premier Blaine Higgs says he wants Fisheries and Oceans Canada to delay the spring fishing season in New Brunswick.
The government is in discussions with other provinces about what it would mean for them, he said.
"But I think if we had a choice it would be delayed at least for a few weeks and maybe maybe a little longer."
If the season is delayed, and especially if it's cancelled, Higgs said he would expect the federal government to provide compensation to fishers.
What to do if you have symptoms?
Symptoms of coronavirus include fever, cough or breathlessness. In this case, residents should:
- Stay at home.
- Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions carefully.
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David Amos
Methinks the photo is a a telling thing. In order for folks to uphold Higgy's law perhaps the hospital should put tape on two chair between each seated client before the cops opt to ticket everybody N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
With the GREAT daily updates we're getting it has sure stifled the Liberal naysayers going after Higgs .They must be really , really be keeping their fingers crossed for some type of negative news. Marc , Maggie , and others have been pretty well muzzled . Need new orders I guess from melanson and the Shediac 5 .
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are not reading all the comment sections N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: BTW Methinks you already know that I quoted you to Maggie in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?
Sean Pendragon
Small business = non-essential.
Walmart = essential
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Sean
Pendragon: Not true. Some of the small businesses in the Saint John
City Market have remained open because they sell produce or meat or
because they're able to operate on a take-out/delivery basis. "Taste of
Egypt" on King Street has a sign board out on the sidewalk advertising
its take-out and delivery services.
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: WRONG I get my groceries at Walmart
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @David Amos:
I wasn't saying that Walmart wasn't essential. It is. But Sean seemed
to think that *all* small businesses have been deemed non-essential and
this simply isn't true.
Fred Dee
Sadly... do not break a tooth.... Dentists will not be back till much later!!! They need PPE"s to work!!
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Fred Dee:
I'm more worried about the possibility of breaking my glasses, as I'm
pretty much blind without them and the optometrists and opticians are
all closed.
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Methinks a lot old folks such as I are far more concerned about
our toothaches to care about your fear of breaking your glasses N'esy
Pas?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @David Amos: Plenty of "old folks" (like myself) wear glasses.
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: I don't but most of us get toothaches like the one I have right
now and my friend Dr Roger Richard can't do a thing about it legally
particularly while Higgy and NB Power are trying to have me arrested.
john smith
why would you delay fishing and hunting thats ridiculous you can purchase everything online and you defitely practice social distancing in those activities that sort of decision makes people go hmmmm
Ben
Haroldson
Reply to @john smith:
Only anadromous fish are federal jurisdiction. The rest is a
provincial call. Don't know if higgs knows that or not.
Lou Bell
Reply to @john smith:
Many don't fish alone . And it's not an essential service. And it's
more than just buying a licence . We all know how fishermen / hunters
like to blame their equipment for their futility on the water !
David Amos
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: Methinks Higgy don't know as much as he thinks he does N'esy
Pas? (BTW Thanks for the vote of confidence)
eddy watts
ummm Canada will open when the States open.....N.B. will open when Ontario opens....You have to love Higgs ("on the world stage")
Lou Bell
Reply to @eddy watts:
Everything has worked so far ! Leading in stats doesn't equate to being
a follower ! Tell us how those so called leaders are being followed by
Higgs ! Pay attention !
eddy watts
Reply to @Lou Bell:
"leadng in stats" where are you getting this stuff?...right NB
government. You need to pay attention to the countries that actually
are in the center of the battle not Blaine Higgs...ok the world is a big
place for you ..have a look at PEI...140,000 people you can do the
math.
David Amos
Reply to @eddy watts: Methinks Little Lou thinks she knows everything N'esy Pas?
Kris Boucher
Perspective
Cancer
Nearly 80,000 people died from cancer in 2018, according to Statistics Canada.
Cardiovascular disease
In 2018, more than 53,000 Canadians died from heart disease, according to Statistics Canada.
Accidents, including a car crash
Nearly 13,300 people died from unintentional injuries in 2018, according to Statistics Canada.
The flu
Influenza and pneumonia killed 8,511 people in 2018, per Statistics Canada figures.
Suicide
In 2018, 3,811 people died by suicide, according to Statistics Canada.
When you cut through the hysteria and see the facts, such as the elderly and those with a compromised immune system are the ones at greater risk from the covid virus. Perhaps we should be isolating these people, but don’t shut down the country our economy will take years to come back. So far there is over 500 deaths from this virus, but over 5206 people have recovered out of the 20,682 cases in Canada.
Perspective is everything.
June Arnott
Reply to @Kris
Boucher: I understand your stats. But with Covid 19, it could wipe out
more people than all that put together. What has been unleashed on our
world is like a bio chemistry attack. Unprecedented. We are screwed
and lots will die if we don’t stop the spread.
David Amos
Reply to @Kris Boucher: Obviously I Wholeheartedly Agree
Methinks Nobody Should Deny That Is What I Have Been Harping About Since The Nonsense Began N'esy Pas?
Methinks Nobody Should Deny That Is What I Have Been Harping About Since The Nonsense Began N'esy Pas?
Kris Boucher
Reply to @Kris Boucher:
You do need to realize that none of these causes of death with the exception of the flu are spreadable through community transmission. It's like comparing apples with oranges. And comparing the flu with COVID-19 is again incomparable, since we do have vaccines for the flu, but none with COVID-19, which is why the number of deaths from the flu are so low. We are currently in a honeymoon phase with COVID-19, where we don't know the full impact of the virus as of yet, but we are projecting over 11,000 to 22,000 deaths by the end of the year with strict measures according to experts. Without any measures, it could end up between 50,000 and 100,000.
Kris Boucher
Reply to @June Arnott:
if more people are recovering than dying in Canada then it’s not the
monster everyone is making it out to be. It is deadly for the elderly
and those with a compromised immune system, but for folks that have
strong immune system this is nothing more than the seasonal flu. Which
by the way hundreds of thousands of Canadians recover from without ever
getting a vaccine, their own immune system fought it off. If there were
more people dying than recovering I could see your point.
Kris
Boucher
Reply to @Gabriel
Boucher: my point that you obviously missed, is that you could die from
heart disease or cancer or the common flu before covid 19 gets you.
Unless you have a compromised immune system or are elderly. Better to
have hope than to live in fear, if the ratio of recovered to fatalities
changes I will change my stance. But in Canada so far more people have
recovered than died.
Georges Saint Yves
Reply to @Gabriel Boucher: But, vaccines for the flu is incidental depending on the virus. One flu vaccine doesn't prevent all flu strains. What is needed is a herd immunity. Although one death is too many, if you look at the percentage of deaths to the people infected and the percentage of deaths to the population it is extremely low. Perhaps if we had received the actual data from China for the Wuhan flu, the projected numbers may be more accurate. Nevertheless, after the panic that Trudeau continues to preach everyday and his foolishness about not reopening the economy for abundance of months, the amount of deaths from suicide will far outnumber the amount of deaths from this virus. There is a solution if a politician is brave enough to put it forth. Trudeau's solution is to continue to raise panic so that he can move his vision of destroying an already weak economy. Canadians will start to question and there will be the possibility of anarchy in the streets.
David Amos
Reply to @Kris
Boucher: I continue to agree with you. FYI I am a senior with a heart
condition who has been in and out the emergency rooms for tests etc.
without a Medicare Card since the last federal election Hence I have to
pay for the Doctor fees and test etc out of pocket. Two scheduled
visits to the hospital have been canceled because of this panic. However
I don't minds because I self isolate anyway because for about 10 years
or so while I was homeless if I caught a bad cold I was at death's door
and had no access to health care with no money at all. Now that the
economic collapse I have been predicting is upon us I have to put a stop
to the New Brunswick Health Care System consuming my CPP and Old Age
funds coming from the Feds. I will sue the Crown to recover lost funds
etc because Higgy and Flemming have continued with their "Stay" on my
Medicare Card to this very day. Methinks its obviously because I ran
against their political parties and embarrassed them in public N'esy
Pas?
Sean Pendragon
Reply to @Kris
Boucher: You should demand an emergency meeting with the WHO and CDC
to inform them of your rational perspective.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Kris Boucher: New York city and other American cities were like you . DID NOTHING and look at them now ! Isolating and social distancing has paid off BIGLY !! Pay attention and comprehend if you can where all would be without following the strict parameters ! Look at Italy / Spain .You want perspective , then take off the blinders .
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take your own advice N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: 15 to 20 votes while running in any election . Not even those signing your nomination papers voted for you . We know how much faith people are putting in your revelations !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should check the data from all 7 elections like your hero Higgy does N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: There is a reason no one listens to your harping . Time to do a 180 !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks your hero Higgy needs a far smarter lawyer than Flemming if
they wish to continue to deny my right to Health Care N'esy Pas?
James
Jones
aka Ray Oliver Reply to @David Amos: Sounds like they've done a pretty good job withholding it so far to me
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks that may be the understatement of this comment section My
question to you is what if such things had happened you? I wager you
would not find it so funny then N'esy Pas?
Johnny Almar
I just discovered the mute button. Good bye Mr. N'esy Pas. Rant to yourself.
Jeremy Allain
Reply to @Johnny Almar: your above comment made believe in miracles again. Lol!
David Amos
Reply to @Jeremy Allain: Dream on
Johnny
Jakobs
Reply to @David Amos: yes he was. He was on a roll today. Typing under a pseudonym...
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Out of that gate every word of his first foray under his new ID last weekend went "Poof" as soon as I asked a very simple question remember?
Methinks desperate people do desperate things N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Out of that gate every word of his first foray under his new ID last weekend went "Poof" as soon as I asked a very simple question remember?
Methinks desperate people do desperate things N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Methinks desperate people do desperate things N'esy Pas?
Johnny Almar
So a person returned to New Brunswick from Ontario last week and infected three people in their family. One being a child.
1) This person traveled unnecessarily.
2) The should of self-isolated for two weeks when returning. They did not.
3) This person was very selfish and I hope that they are going to be charged for breaking the law.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Cry me a river
Jeremy Allain
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: agree one thousand percent. They willingly took a non essential
trip cross border and put family members in harms way. If anything,
heaven forbid; happens to those family members, they should be held
responsible. Full stop.
Johnny Almar
Ignore whatever worst-case scenario they say. Look at the best-case scenario divide it in half and call that the worst-case scenario because governments have over-estimated this virus from the getgo.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks everybody wants to know how many tickets did your cop buddies serve today N'esy Pas?
Theo Lavigne:
Reply to @Johnny Almar: I think it is better to over estimate in the case of a virus we never seen before
Denis
LeBlanc
Reply to @David Amos: Looking at these 3 new cases, obviously not enough.
Julianne Mcnamara
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Very true. Thanks.
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Nope , you're in your own little world on that one !
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Maybe run on that in the next election !
James
Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
I thought they were my cop buddies last week. Sure is alot of cops on
here isn't there. Disagreeable cops always a buzzkill to David!!
David Amos
Reply to @James
Jones: Wrong again. Methinks Lou Bell and everybody else knows that I
love exposing the cops' dirty deeds to all N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Denis
LeBlanc: Methinks somebody should follow the money dudes such as
Urquhart and Steeves while you chase the ambulance dudes such as Higgy
and Flemming N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/blaine-higgs-covid-recovery-1.5527362
Higgs optimistic about COVID-19 trajectory — if we don't blow it this long weekend
Normal life is a while away, but premier is already thinking about economic recovery
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 09, 2020 10:36 AM AT
Premier Blaine Higgs said New Brunswick could flatten the curve within a month or two, so long as people follow the rules. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
New Brunswick is on track to being a model for the rest of the country in terms of its response to COVID-19, but only if people aren't reckless over the long weekend, Premier Blaine Higgs said Thursday.
"This may be our first big test," Higgs said in an interview with Information Morning Fredericton.
New Brunswick's success depends on people following the rules, which include staying indoors and not spending time with people other than those who live in your home, Higgs said.
As of Wednesday, the province had 108 cases.
I do think with continued measures we can be talking weeks instead of months and months.
- Blaine Higgs, premierHiggs is optimistic the government will flatten the curve in a month or two.
"I think it's hard to tell. This weekend will be telltale. We've seen our numbers decline over the last few days, but you can't jump on that and say it's getting over.
"I do think with continued measures we can be talking weeks instead of months and months."
Until a vaccine is found, which may not be for a year or two, certain precautions will remain in place, Higgs said.
Higgs did not specify what those precautions could look like but said it will depend on testing for the virus.
"It'll depend on the conditions we find at the time."
The province is two to three weeks away from even considering lifting restrictions, Higgs said.
Higgs has already started thinking about economic recovery as well, which he said will take several months, if not years.
Premier Blaine Higgs said Wednesday the Easter long weekend could be a turning point towards New Brunswickers spending a summer without COVID-19. 2:19
"How do we get businesses up and running and contributing again is a focus because we need that source of revenue."
Some business may not make it through, he said.
"For us to get back to normal, it's going to take a while."
With files from Information Morning Fredericton
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David Amos
Methinks its amazing how many people claim that they are not associated to certain parties today N'esy Pas?
Johnny Almar
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks & N'esy Pas have worn out their welcome.
Brian Decker
Reply to @Johnny Almar: AMEN TO THAT!!!
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks its your words that keep going "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Decker: Methinks you know where you can find your words against me N'esy Pas?
Alison
Jackson
Reply to @Johnny Almar: I was thinking the same exact thing,lol.
Alison
Jackson
Reply to @David Amos: He stole it from the "et voilà" guy anyway.
David Amos
Reply to @Alison
Jackson: Methinks Higgy and I are not surprised There are no
coincidences when it comes to the actions of conservatives and their
gang N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Alison Jackson: BS
Johnny Almar
Reply to @David Amos:
Funny you keep going on about us reporting people endangering lives by
doing unnecessary things, yet spend you time reporting threads on here
because they do not suit you.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: BS
Bo Zam
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Glad it not just me..
Johnny Almar
Reply to @David Amos: How much does the RCMP pay you?
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Ask them
Tom Simmons
IF WE DON"T BLOW IT! The FEDS AND PROVINCIAL BLEW IT ALREADY!
David Amos
Reply to @Tom Simmons: Yup
Peter J Hickey
Reply to @Tom Simmons: How did they blow it?
Tom Simmons
Peter J Hickey
Reply to @Tom Simmons: How did they blow it?
Tom Simmons
Reply to @Peter J
Hickey: The pandemic was evident in late January. Federal minister of
health was briefed on it then. Did nothing, kept quiet in order to save
political face because they knew we didn't have enough PPE to deal with
what was coming and we are in bed with the Chi Comms and can't do
anything to upset them like banning flights. The only person I've seen
do anything pro active from government anywhere was Dominic Cardy who
cancelled schools early on.
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Tom Simmons: They blew it back when china warned us, um, when was that? December?
valmond landry
@JAMES JONES your going to change your mind and wake up in a couple of weeks from now
David Amos
Reply to @valmond landry: Of that I have no doubt
valmond landry
MR HIGGY SHOULDN'T BRAG Too MUCH ABOUT A SO Called Success THE WORSE IS YET TO COME AND THAT'S ONLY Being REALISTIC
David Amos
Reply to @valmond landry: Oh So True
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @valmond landry: I think you might need a new keyboard you're all over the map Valmond. The worst isn't yet to come we are in decline. People keeping their distance and playing by the rules along with our provinces population density has got us in a positive place
Reply to @valmond landry: I think you might need a new keyboard you're all over the map Valmond. The worst isn't yet to come we are in decline. People keeping their distance and playing by the rules along with our provinces population density has got us in a positive place
David Amos
Reply to @James Jones: FYI I am talking about the economy not a dumb bug
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Yeah that'll be in the toilet for a while no argument on that front!
Lou Bell
Reply to @valmond landry: Praying won't get you the answer you're seeking !
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @valmond landry: It's simply a list of possibilities, not predictions. Unfortunately not everyone will see it that way.
Reply to @David Amos: Yeah that'll be in the toilet for a while no argument on that front!
Lou Bell
Reply to @valmond landry: Praying won't get you the answer you're seeking !
David Amos
Reply to @James Jones: However you decide to insult me anyway??? Methinks you are just another Higgy fan N'esy Pas? Michel Forgeron
Reply to @valmond landry: It's simply a list of possibilities, not predictions. Unfortunately not everyone will see it that way.
Alison Jackson
As per usual religion will probably ruin everything.
David Amos
Reply to @Alison Jackson: You should know
June Arnott
Reply to @Alison Jackson: yup, those creationists don’t believe in science.
Bo Zam
Reply to @Alison Jackson: Watch Fox news much?
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: True but methinks whether they be religious or not they all worship money N'esy Pas?
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Alison Jackson: Stop being so bigoted, Alison. It's distasteful.
Tom Simmons
Reply to @Alison Jackson: Religion is the fundamental reason humans crawled out of the muck.
David Amos
Reply to @Tom Simmons: Methinks many would agree that they were just looking for something to eat N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Use that in your next platform . Nothing else worked !
David Amos
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Use that in your next platform . Nothing else worked !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks deciding what folks should eat is your forte N'esy Pas?
Jeff LeBlanc
People
will blow it. That's why I'm going to drive around on Sunday snitching
on people. If you live in southeast NB be warned, I'll be out there
looking for lots of cars in people's driveways, etc. Enjoy your Easter!
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: You can drive to places you have no essential business in. So make sure to rat yourself out too.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Johnny Almar: You *can't* drive to places you have no essential business in. So make sure to rat yourself out too.
June
Arnott
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: um, you are not suppose to be driving around!
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Methinks it makes for very interesting days when French dudes
brag of being a snitch in Conservative territory N'esy Pas?
Bo Zam
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Snitches get stitches..
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Be sure to tell that to an officer once he stops you for aimlessly driving. Good old vigilante attitude wont get you anything but trouble.
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Be sure to tell that to an officer once he stops you for aimlessly driving. Good old vigilante attitude wont get you anything but trouble.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @June
Arnott: um yes I can if I don't get out of my car. Nothing illegal about
a Sunday drive. So make sure you don't plan a gathering or I may rat
you out.
Tom Simmons
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Go back to east germany
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Tom Simmons: I'd need a time machine, you got one?
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @James
Jones: nothing illegal about a Sunday drive to Tim Hortons (essential
service) apparently. And while on my Sunday drive if I happen to see a
gathering expect a visit from the police. There is no law against that.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @David Amos: methinks your first mistake was assuming I'm french.
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Methinks your name defines you N'esy Pas?
James
Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Someone sounds like their loneliness on Easter is going to feel the wrath of a wannabe rent a cop. Use the hotline for over the top blatant abuse of the emergency order not tying up the lines with your nonsense afternoon entertainment.
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Someone sounds like their loneliness on Easter is going to feel the wrath of a wannabe rent a cop. Use the hotline for over the top blatant abuse of the emergency order not tying up the lines with your nonsense afternoon entertainment.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply
to @James Jones: of course I'm not going to waste my Sunday on this.
But I got a lot of you worked up so much you felt the need to reply.
Hopefully someone who reads this will realize there are people out there
who WILL rat them out and they will think twice about hosting that
Easter supper.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @David Amos:
so if my last name was Goldberg I'm automatically Jewish? No wonder you
never get voted into office. Also Coronavirus lives in long gross
beards so you might wanna shave. You are an odd duck man.
Donald Smith
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Take Chill Pill Jeff. It'll be ok
Donald Smith
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Yes I have one, its the Jack D Special
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Methinks your words further prove your blatant malice. Clearly
you ain't no Hillbilly from my neck of the woods. Furthermore I suspect
no dude named Goldberg would be so dumb as to brag that he is a snitch
like the nasty French dude you definitely are N'esy Pas?
Tom Simmons
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: We are in a time machine right now with your actions.
JC Cormier
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks you've got a chip on your shoulder against the French, n'est-ce pas?
David Amos
Reply to @JC Cormier:
Methinks everybody knows I hate nasty French men but love nice French
ladies So that does not make me a bad guy just an honest one N'esy Pas?
Johnny
Almar
What
is being done to stop the 2 ATV rallies this weekend? Higgs said it was
a bad idea but one of the groups out of Sussex is saying that the
government okayed it.
Very confusing information.
Very confusing information.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: Methinks it doesn't take much to confuse you particularly in
light of the fact that you claim I work for the RCMP N'esy Pas?
Johnny Almar
Reply to @David Amos: Where did I claim that?
David Amos
Johnny Almar
Reply to @David Amos: Where did I claim that?
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Look up
Johnny Almar
I have backside intel coming in on Transponder 9 from the Fandango Rangers that the emergency declaration will not be lifted until two months of little to no infections. That will take us into November. Newfoundland is factoring that in. New Brunswick is not.
Arish Moogadoo
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Newfies probably counted wrong and thought November was 2 months out from April.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: How much are the RCMP and Higgy paying you for the Intel?
Renee Garry
Reply to @David Amos: Et voila!
Johnny Almar
Premier Higgs is beginning to sounds like President Trump with his optimism.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks that must have made your day N'esy Pas?
SarahRose Werner
Higgs is taking a very pragmatic attitude. It's a bit startling to find myself agreeing with a Conservative!
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: I'm not affiliated with either Libs or Cons , and yet after the
stunts the liberals pulled off and attempted to pull off it'll be a
long time before they get my vote again . And i did vote for them , both
provincially and federally last election. Thought Trudeau was doing a
decent job but have come to realize both he and Scheer are pathetic.
David Peters
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Expanding gov't to this degree is the opposite of Conservatism.
Expanding gov't to this degree is the opposite of Conservatism.
Gabriel
Boucher
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
It's a good thing that we currently have a minority government to guide our way through this. If it wasn't for that, we would've been in the same boat as other provinces that acted out late. Higgs is being pressured by the other parties to do the right thing, and it's been successful so far.
It's a good thing that we currently have a minority government to guide our way through this. If it wasn't for that, we would've been in the same boat as other provinces that acted out late. Higgs is being pressured by the other parties to do the right thing, and it's been successful so far.
Terry Hughes
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Higgs is doing a great job. I said in the past. Let our ELECTED
leaders handle this. I also said I'm not a JT fan but he is our ELECTED
leader. Let him do his job !!!!!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Gabriel
Boucher: We would have been starting with 130 million dollars less in
our pockets if the Liberals had gotten elected !
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks your hero Higgy should not be surprised by anything people say anymore N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Yea Right Surely you jest.
Methinks the SANB and everybody else knows there is no bigger fan of Higgy than you N'esy Pas?
Methinks the SANB and everybody else knows there is no bigger fan of Higgy than you N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/st-andrews-stay-away-covid-19-pandemic-tourism-1.5525562
Saint Andrews asks visitors to stay away during COVID-19 pandemic
Increasing vehicle traffic prompts resort town to ask tourists to stay home
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 08, 2020 7:18 PM AT
Mayor Doug Naish is asking tourists to stay away from Saint Andrews during the COVID-19 pandemic. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
Saint Andrews Mayor Doug Naish is used to welcoming visitors to the seaside resort town, but now he's urging them to stay away.
The town issued a statement reminding people looking to ease their boredom that traveling to the community isn't the best option at this time.
"We don't want to send anybody away, but at this point in time it just seems that the additional risk of having people of unknown backgrounds coming here at a time when we've managed to convince our vulnerable population to take care of themselves just somehow doesn't seem fair," said Naish.
"Frankly, we don't know whether someone who's coming here to walk on our beach is supposed to be quarantined where they live. You know, we have no idea of knowing that or controlling it."
It was this that prompted the request.
The town of St. Andrews continues to get out-of-towners during the pandemic despite the rules, and they're looking to the province for additional law enforcement. 1:58
"It just got us thinking that perhaps as the weather gets better this may get worse," said Naish.
"There actually may be some people who are just not thinking that there's any problem with [visiting]."
Attractions shuttered
Naish said because of the COVID-19 pandemic there isn't a lot to do in the town at the moment anyway.
Most businesses are closed, except for those deemed essential.
Local beaches and parks, including the St. Andrews Blockhouse, are also closed.
The town has closed local parks to curb the spread of COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
"We've got barricades up because again that was one of those places where two weeks ago on a sunny Saturday there were a dozen or 18 cars there and they weren't local cars," said Naish.
In the province's daily COVID-19 briefing on Tuesday, Premier Blaine Higgs said there have been talks about how to regulate travel between some tourist communities and the idea of checkpoints has been raised.
"Do we have the ability and is it a necessity to put that same kind of connection around communities, because that will be very difficult," said Higgs.
Tourist season concerns
The ongoing pandemic has business owners in the town anxious, said Naish.
The local economy is largely based on tourism, an industry that has already taken a hit in the community.
"We have a big music and outdoor festival called Paddlefest … that takes place in the middle of May," said Naish.
"That's already been cancelled and that's really the kickoff of our tourist season."
Visit, 'but not right now'
The town is also home to many summer properties.
Naish said these property owners can still come into the town, but he asks they also think about staying away during the pandemic.
And if these part-time residents do choose to go to their summer homes, Naish asks they inform the town first.
"Not just because we want to control what you're doing, but because if you're going to be there in residence, if we know about it, we've developed a good volunteer system here in the crisis and we're checking on people who are vulnerable ... in our community," said Naish.
The mayor said he hopes people will continue to visit the picturesque community, when appropriate, after the pandemic is over.
"We appreciate their business and we want them to come, but not right now," said Naish.
"There is, we believe, a significant risk ... particularly when we don't know where people are coming from."
With files from Shane Fowler
44 Comments
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Danny Devo
Seems a lot of folks here do not understand the rules. Let me help.
2 meters = 6 feet (the distance you may find yourself under ground of you don't heed the rules)
Do not engage in non essential travel. Translation: seek help for your hopeless addiction to timmies; make a list before you go shopping for once in your life; do not pleasure cruise; do not go to your cottage to have an awesome adventure unless you enjoy paying heavy fines. Does that help?
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo: Methinks you should "Premier Higgs Butter Tarts" then review the rules again N'esy Pas?
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @Danny Devo: I'll pleasure cruise alone all I want come and get me
David Amos
Reply to @James
Jones: Methinks if you told the cops you were fetching Butter Tarts for
Higgy et al they would likely assist you on your emergency mission N'esy
Pas?
Danny Devo
Reply
to @David Amos: He needs some energy. Currently looking totally
exhausted, sleepy and cranky. When this is allver he'll get his butter
tarts and all the health care cuts he ever wanted. That's what
conservatives do. Give massive tax breaks to the corporate buddies and
scrap services for citizens. Still the same ol Higgy.
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo: Higgy still has a "Stay" on my Medicare Card as well
Danny Devo
Reply to @David Amos: Maybe you should have voted for the Green Party. Guess you learn the hard way N'est pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo:
Methinks I should ask how many times should I run against your beloved
Green Party before the people who support them listen to what I have
been saying instead of merely jerking my chain to hear me bark N'esy
Pas?
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @Danny Devo: Not sure the fear mongering you've been saying about the "COVID death sentence" and comparing it to drunk driving thru playgrounds is something they'd be spreading if in power either. This is any politicians first run thru something of this magnitude. Leave the party platform out of it. Youd hate Higgs even if he was the guy who found the cure for COVID
Danny Devo
Reply to @David Amos: So who would you recommend then?
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo:
There are no elections being held right now but i may run in the by
election in St Andrews if Higgy get around to having the writ dropped.If
so then you could pick the vegetable in mean old me. In the "Mean"
time methinks the Green Meanies have the governments they deserve since
laughing at me since 2004 N'esy Pas?
Danny Devo
Reply to @James Jones: I don;t hate anyone. I do not appreciate what his party stands for. They are a disgrace. The libs are almost as bad. Both are corporate parties that leech from the public.
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: I wish I was in that riding. You'd get mine.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @James Jones: Methinks its and interesting day for you to pick a fight with me N'esy Pas?
Danny Devo
Good idea. Keep the reckless zombies out. Higgy says this pandemic may last a long time in this province. Is he talking about his government or covid 19?
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo: Methinks you must be a retired cop who truly enjoys Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
Danny Devo
Reply to @David Amos:
Have not had any bad experiences with the police personally. All I know
is that conservatives are the enemy of the people.
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo:
Methinks Vicky and his old RCMP pals, the FBI, the Fat Fred City
Finest and many other PDs on both sides of the 49th cannot deny that I
have many bones to pick with them but I must confess that I am very
surprised that you are not a fan of Higgy N'esy Pas?
Danny Devo
Reply to @David Amos: The only rational choice are Greens
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo: Now thats truly funny
Danny Devo
Reply to @David Amos: Since when is rational funny?
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Devo:
Methinks you should ask the mindless lawyer who was the federal leader
of your beloved party why I hung up on her 3 times in 2007 and sent her
hard copy byway of tracked Canada Post after she did a hostile takeover
of the aforementioned party N'esy Pas?
Johnny Jakobs
Stay Home. That's what the whole world is advocating for. Why give St. Andrews flack when many other communities have already done so? Getting in a car, going for a drive and setting up lawn chairs to talk in the greenspace is not staying at home.
This confuses me too.... if you dont like St Andrews and what is has to offer(when open for business), what's it matter to you? Other than spreading negativity.
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @James
Jones: I've lived in the bubble for many decades. Born in the Steve and
love what Charlotte County has to offer.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: It appears that Mr Jones went "Poof" Was he nasty with you too?
Ben Haroldson
Only in st a. eh.....
Johnny Jakobs
Leaders lead.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Yea Right
I'm pretty sure the police have better things to do than stop all cars going for a drive to St Andrews and tell the occupants to stay away please.
David Amos
Reply to @Gerry
Ferguson: Methinks you should not bet the farm on that opinion The
RCMP's buddy Higgy needs to have a win in the upcoming by election in
that neighbourhood N'esy Pas?
Murray Brown
Went to St. Andrews once... Have stayed away ever since. Glorified tourist trap.
David Amos
Reply to @Murray Brown: Methinks you are not alone in that regard N'esy Pas?
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
There are lots of home owners down there with summer places and the mayor states hes only "suggesting" they stay put during the pandemic. How do you know they just landed and haven't been around for a while? Primary residence is a suggestion not a law
Ben
Haroldson
Reply to @James Jones: More like a loophole, because it is a law.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @James
Jones: Knowing someone there, this full time resident said that there
"if there are any "summer place" residents here, which primarily from
Ontario, I have not seen them". And since at the NB border they are
turning away people coming to stay in NB, just because they have a
vacation home, I'd think there are very few.
And just landed? well, the St John airport has no commercial traffic, and hasn't for a week now.
And just landed? well, the St John airport has no commercial traffic, and hasn't for a week now.
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: St. Andrews is always one of these places that's got it's own set of rules. Their parks are no different than any other ones nor should they be. People going for drives to get out a little if they're practicing the social distancing set in place then what's the difference?
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: St. Andrews is always one of these places that's got it's own set of rules. Their parks are no different than any other ones nor should they be. People going for drives to get out a little if they're practicing the social distancing set in place then what's the difference?
James Jones
aka Ray Oliver
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Landed in town I meant. And if they drove recently they'd be subject to mandatory self isolation. So maybe they've been there and just out for the first time now. People see other plates alot in this Province especially Alberta ones from time to time. Practice the distancing and give people space and use common sense. NB is doing great so far but some people are taking this to the total extreme
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Landed in town I meant. And if they drove recently they'd be subject to mandatory self isolation. So maybe they've been there and just out for the first time now. People see other plates alot in this Province especially Alberta ones from time to time. Practice the distancing and give people space and use common sense. NB is doing great so far but some people are taking this to the total extreme
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @James Jones: Saint John has closed all their parks et al like many other places.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @James Jones: "some people are taking this to the total extreme" no argument there!
David Amos
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: FYI Mr Jones just took it to the extreme with me today
Johnny Almar
Yet I saw 2 vehicles from Ontario pull into town today. Go figure.
Arish Moogadoo
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: I've seen a few licence plates from away. It's been a good 2-3
weeks now that people have had to get home and get where they're going,
it's really time to stop letting people through. The fact is our
province needs to be closed to passing through at this point because we
can't trust that those people are strictly passing through. Time for
transport trucks and medical workers only.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Cry me a river
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/physical-distancing-enforcement-rcmp-1.5522736
Education over enforcement: What to expect under new physical distancing rules
Caraquet man fined for breaking new mandatory two-metre distancing rule
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 05, 2020 7:07 PM A
The province has ramped up enforcement of orders for physical distancing, and has made staying two metres away from people mandatory. (Fredericton Police Force/Twitter)
The first weekend under new physical distancing rules saw both residents and law enforcement figuring out how to adapt to the new normal.
On Friday, Premier Blaine Higgs announced the province would be cracking down on violations of the physical distancing order.
Staying two metres away from another person is mandatory, except in the case of members of the same household, and in some cases at work.
Keith Gagnon of Caraquet found out about the new enforcement rules the hard way.
On Saturday, he was handed a ticket for $292 for driving with a friend he doesn't live with. The two were on their way to get a car wash.
Keith Gagnon plans on contesting a $292 ticket for breaking the physical distancing order, because he says he didn't know the rules had changed. (Submitted by Keith Gagnon.)
Gagnon said he plans on contesting the ticket, since he doesn't feel it was fair for the officer to fine him without giving him a warning first.
"I was just finishing a night shift and never knew about that law," said Gagnon in an email to the CBC.
Despite the incident this past weekend, Gagnon said he is taking the outbreak seriously, and has been practising physical distancing as best as he can.
"I never left my home," he said. "I don't want my family to get this disease."
Education first
New Brunswick RCMP spokesperson Const. Hans Ouellette couldn't give any specifics about new ticketing practices but said it's something officers across the province are taking seriously."We're asking people to do what New Brunswickers do so well, which is we look out for one another.
So our primary focus still remains working with the communities to do everything that we can to reduce the spread of COVID-19."
Ouellette wouldn't give details of what officers might be on the lookout for, as each case is different, but said they are basing their response on advice from Public Health.
"That may include tickets or other enforcement actions for people who are not following the directive aimed at keeping everyone safe," he said.
RCMP are urged to educate people about new physical distancing rules before handing out tickets and fines. (CBC News)
He added that ticketing is at the discretion of each officer, but not adhering to a self-isolation order after entering the province or being within two metres of someone you don't live with are things that could potentially bring fines.
Ouellette said the officers' first reflex should be to educate rule-breakers.
"Are you going to see police officers out there with yardsticks measuring how far apart everyone is? Probably not. … Are we going to be stopping every car we see with more than two people in it? No.
"Our main goal out of all of this, before the enforcement action comes into play, is to have that collaborative work, that educational piece to really be able to help people make the right decisions."
A runner and walker keep their distance from each other on the Charlottetown boardwalk. (Brian McInnis/CBC)
No numbers for tickets or fines issued have been released by the RCMP or the province.
The Saint John Police Force said no tickets have been issued under the compliance order so far.
"The SJPF is encouraging and promoting compliance," said spokesperson Jim Hennessy in an email.
Kennebecasis Regional Police Force spokesperson Inspector Anika Becker said the force did not issue any tickets on the weekend for physical distancing violations.
Other local police forces have yet to provide comments.
41 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.David Amos
Methinks a clever lawyer will see this as a ticket to the Supreme Court and the history books N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Higgy knows why Keith Gagnon and I should have a long talk sometime soon N'esy Pas?
Marc Bourque
People have to learn a lesson the hard way,when it hits your pocket book you will pay attention.Talking with an individual the other about what can happen.He said I will not pay any fines....I said no problem 30 days in prison would do you some good,and dont forget your soap on a rope either!
Hank Hanrattey
Reply to @Marc Bourque: You are not even remotely funny.
David Amos
Reply to @Hank Hanrattey: I concur
Mandel Rooney
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I hope the judge upholds the fine. He says he was upholding the distancing rules "as best as he can". Do better. Why was your buddy in your car with you if you were doing "your best"?
David Amos
Reply to @Mandel Rooney: Trust that I would love to meet your judge
John Grail
Reply to @Mandel Rooney: Laws that infringe on the most basic rights shouldn't be even tolerated.
Mandel Rooney
Reply to @John Grail:
Fundamental human right: crusin with the bud during a pandemic. Not sure that qualifies.
Fundamental human right: crusin with the bud during a pandemic. Not sure that qualifies.
John Grail
Reply to @Mandel Rooney: Freedom of association...I see authoritarianism is in vogue this season
Terry Tibbs
$292............. that's a tidy little moneymaker right there.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BINGO
rayma allaby
would the police not have to have a reason to stop you in a vehicle. something isn't being told here or adding up.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @rayma allaby:
Sure it adds up, $292 a time, easier than enforcing the seat belt law.
You see 2 in a vehicle you stop them, it's up to them to prove they are related/connected, 2 X $292.
Sure it adds up, $292 a time, easier than enforcing the seat belt law.
You see 2 in a vehicle you stop them, it's up to them to prove they are related/connected, 2 X $292.
David Amos
Reply to @rayma
allaby: Methinks in Higgy's new police state the coppers have carte
blanche to do anything they wish as they pass out more lucrative tax
tickets for his benefit N'esy Pas?
kelly sherrard
Part of the problem is that people in this province are being bombarded with information, misinformation, new regulations, new news reports of latest cases to the point that our heads are spinning.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @kelly sherrard:
The real "problem" is we are not being told the truth. We are getting our doses of fear in 2 week doses, and have been getting them since around March 15th, for the first 2 week period we were told to stay home and isolate ourselves, only going out if we can maintain distancing. Sooner, or later, this will get old, my vote is for sooner. So, here we are, into the second 2 week period of huddling in our huts living in fear. How many times will they be extending this 2 week period? The Ontario prediction is 2 years.
The real "problem" is we are not being told the truth. We are getting our doses of fear in 2 week doses, and have been getting them since around March 15th, for the first 2 week period we were told to stay home and isolate ourselves, only going out if we can maintain distancing. Sooner, or later, this will get old, my vote is for sooner. So, here we are, into the second 2 week period of huddling in our huts living in fear. How many times will they be extending this 2 week period? The Ontario prediction is 2 years.
David Webb NB
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Until there is herd immunity or there is an effective vaccine.
Could be quite a while coming. You can bet that Canada will be far down
the list obtaining said vaccine when it does become available.
David Amos
Reply to @kelly sherrard: YUP
John Grail
Who didn't see this coming. Our most basic freedoms are being eroded. This is happening all across the country.
Bob Smith
Reply to @John Grail:
Basic freedoms do NOT include the right to infect others with a
potentially lethal virus. If experts are correct, North America will see
more Corona deaths than before. Be safe and stay away as asked.
Bill
Hamilton
Reply to @John Grail: Maintenance of our freedoms demands personal responsibility.
David Amos
Reply to @John Grail: Ask yourself why
David Amos
Reply to @Bill
Hamilton: I concur Methinks Higgy knows thats why I ran for public
office 7 times and sued the Crown as well N'esy Pas?
John Grail
Reply to @Bob Smith:
Freedom of person and association are probably some of the most
fundamental freedoms. If people get within someone's personal space, and
they don't like it, apply the law at that point. But if everyone is
willing to accept the risk, why are you fining people?
John Grail
Reply to @Bill
Hamilton: Yes, like being accountable. If people choose to get close to
one another, they accept that risk. It's not up to others to decide
that. If you don't want to get close to people, don't, and tell them
that. If they still do at that point, then I have no problem charging
people.
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