Harness racing group mounts campaign to 'seize' control of Fredericton Exhibition Grounds
City leader dismayed by undermining of property development plan
"A plan has been established for this site," said Kate Rogers.
"It's in our city centre, and there's so much we need to do with that land — namely housing … 20 per cent of which will be affordable housing."
The horse racing group is facing the end — and non-renewal — of its lease this month at Exhibition Park Raceway in Saint John and is looking for another city where horses can board, exercise and race.
No racing since 2016
"If we can't be here, we've got to be in Fredericton or Moncton, and Fredericton already has a track," Guy Barbara, Horse Racing New Brunswick president, said during a recent meeting posted on the group's official fan page on Facebook.
Horses are still boarded in Fredericton, but regular horse races have not been held in the city since 2016, when the harness racing group had a legal dispute with NBEx and its lease was not renewed.
Over the last several years, the board of NBEx, which has a long-term lease for the Exhibition Grounds from the city, expiring in 2032, has worked jointly with the city on a redevelopment plan.
Hundreds of community members were engaged in that process, said Rogers.
"We're quite far along in imagining what that is going to look like."
Besides housing, the city and NBEx board envisioned a school, a recreation centre and the exhibition for the site's future, but not a horse racing track.
Zoning bylaws are being put in place, said Rogers, and the next step would have been to call for proposals from developers, together with the NBEx board.
Fredericton Mayor Kate Rogers says the city needs the downtown land for housing. . (Maria Jose Burgos/CBC)
"Instead we have a group that has now made a provincial plea for people to sign up to thwart that plan and I find that unacceptable," she said.
"It's disheartening, it's startling and it baffles me that something like that would take place."
Rogers was referring to plans discussed openly and posted about on the horse racing group Facebook page to stack the membership of the NBEx and its board with people who would approve of holding at least a few race days at the Fredericton track next season and in the coming years — which would obviously clash with the prospect of moving ahead with onsite housing development.
Through a combined effort with cattle farmers and draft horse owners, a few "horse people" were elected to the NBEx board at last May's annual general meeting, said Charlie Miles, in the Facebook video of the Dec. 10 meeting in Saint John.
Terms on board expiring
Miles is another Horse Racing New Brunswick board member and a longtime horse owner, trainer and driver from Fredericton.
Next spring, six more director terms will be expiring, he said.
He urged horse racing enthusiasts from across the province to buy $20 memberships in Agricultural Society 34 in order to have voting rights for the next board election. The deadline to join is Dec. 30 at noon.
"If we want to seize that track we can," Barbara said in the video.
Barbara, who lives in Saint John and used to run a hotel, told the meeting about his plans to lease O'Malleys Irish Pub, give Horse Racing New Brunswick free office space and offer simulcast wagering.
Barbara was not available for an interview with CBC News, but he sent a direct message questioning the City of Fredericton's intentions for the Exhibition Grounds.
Horses making what may be their final laps of Exhibition Raceway in Saint John. (Aniekan Etuhube/CBC)
"Fredericton city council in conjunction with developers wish to eliminate this green space to generate more money. HRNB will always stand with local horse men, farmers, cattlemen, and any other agricultural groups that wish to save this site for its original intended use — agricultural appreciation."
NBEx, also known as Ag-34, is the only remaining agricultural society in the province, he said, and the board passed a motion several years ago to open membership provincewide.
The NBEx has a membership of about 160, said executive director Mike Vokey, so if Horse Racing N.B. gets 50 of its supporters to attend the annual general meeting, it could "easily sway the direction of the organization."
As of Wednesday afternoon, about 80 new members had signed up in the past year, said Vokey. He called that a significant increase.
But it's not clear whether a pro-horse-racing board would, in fact, be able to bring horse racing back to Fredericton.
Housing plan 'secured'
"The coup that is being intended — their desired outcome is not as straightforward as they may imagine," said Mayor Rogers.
The plan for housing is "very much secured," she said, through a secondary municipal plan that does not include harness racing as a permitted activity on the property.
However, the city did not respond to a request for clarification about whether the property is still zoned to allow horse racing.
As an alternative, Rogers offered to meet with Horse Racing N.B. to help identify areas outside the city for a possible track, "if there is a life beyond for harness racing."
Horse Racing board members discussed the struggling state of their sport during the Dec. 10 meeting.
Hopes for P.E.I. interest
Their hopes for the future are pinned on finding a "partner" in Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island, where harness racing still goes on, after being refused by the government of New Brunswick.
Barbara said Red Shores Racing in P.E.I. was open to talking.
"They need New Brunswick horses to have a good product," he said.
Ten race dates have been proposed for Connell Park in Woodstock next summer, where one race day was held this year. Ten is the minimum that would be required to have simulcast betting in the province.
The race dates and the simulcasting both require the approval of the Atlantic Provinces Harness Racing Commission.
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David Amos
Methinks the carnival in Fat Fred City is every bit as amusing and Higgy's circus is N'esy Pas?
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Reply to David Amos I wonder if anyone recalls the Bill Lynch Show harness racing ostriches
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David Amos
Methinks Mike Vokey and his buddies are wondering what I am up to about now N'esy Pas?
Stanley Beemish
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You should enlighten us, because the populous waits with baited breath to hear of your latest adventures!
Harvey York
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He's furiously emailing every premier of every province,
none of which will reply to him, and then he'll blog about it and
declare some sort of victory. Gotta love Dave!
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I know when Horse Racing New Brunswick was first formed to solicit support from the government of the day, there was a lobbyist hired to lobby the government to support the horse industry.
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Well Mike Vokey whereas I am not worth talking to perhaps you will have better luck getting help from Mayor O'Brien's old buddy Chucky leblanc
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William's Seafood Restaurant in Fredericton might move because of idiot Mayor Mike O'Brien!
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Published on Dec 13, 2017
I heard Mike Vokey talking about Mayor O'Brien of Fat Fred City on CBC right now and shook my head at the nonsense of it all
David Amos<motomaniac333@gmail.com> | Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 7:32 AM |
| To: mvokey@frex.ca, "martin.gaudet" <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "leanne.murray" <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "jake.stewart" <jake.stewart@gnb.ca>, "brian.t.macdonald" <brian.t.macdonald@gnb.ca> | |
| Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "mike.obrien" <mike.obrien@fredericton.ca>, "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, "john.green" <john.green@gnb.ca> | |
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It appears that your buddy Mike Vokey got his wish N'esy Pas Mayor O'Brien? However where the Hell is my Harley and the wiretap tapes of the MOB that Martin Gaudet and the Fat Fred City Finest stole from me in 2007???
David Amos<motomaniac333@gmail.com> | Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 8:42 AM |
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The funny part of all this is most of the snobby bastards won't read any of this until they see it attached to motions in a lawsuit. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: FCA No Reply <noreply@fca.org.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:34:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Thank you your query has been received. To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Case Ref #:204260139 Dear David Amos, Thank you for your query. We will respond to you within 2 working days. This mailbox is not monitored. If you wish to reply, please send email to consumer.queries@fca.org.uk with the following text in the body: ref:_00Db0K8yP._500b0iilRy:ref Kind Regards, FCA Consumer Contact Centre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Customer Contact Centre <consumer.queries@fca.org.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:25:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: FCA Query - 204252030 - [ ref:_00Db0K8yP._500b0hXw7s:ref ] To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Dear Mr Amos Thank you for your recent email. 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Vous pouvez me rejoindre à lalanthier@hotmail.com Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at lalanthier@hotmail.com To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca Thank you, Merci , http://davidraymondamos3. 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over five years after he began his bragging: January 13, 2015 This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate December 8, 2014 Why Canada Stood Tall! Friday, October 3, 2014 Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And Stupid Justin Trudeau Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts. When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute” Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind. The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic, professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway campaign of 2006. What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent, support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament. What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make. The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war. That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East. President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state” Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control, and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,” or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan. One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits are not. Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy” David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.” In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing, marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer. My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to other nations, and then criticize them for doing so. Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security, and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world. Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400 Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement. >>>> ---------- Original message ---------- From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300 Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil, Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc. william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca, milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca, sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari < smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, susan@blueskystrategygroup.com eugene@blueskystrategygroup. Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin" < terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower < whistleblower@ctv.ca> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is interesting though http://www. http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/ Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me. http://www.scribd.com/doc/ The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a shy political animal Veritas Vincit David Raymond Amos 902 800 0369 Enjoy Mr Weston http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/ "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command, including a Canadian general. That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff, who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000 U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait." http://baconfat53.blogspot. "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends" demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying into the US policy. At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there were deployed WMD. Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy. There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the George W Bush administration was onerous American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which ....not necessarily in that order. " You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John Adams? of the CSE within the DND? http://www.socom.mil/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 20:40:18 -0400 Subject: Methinks that the majority of my Scottish kin overseas will be grateful that at least Boris Johnson's computer is far more ethical than Georgey Boy Osborne, his pal Mark Carney and the bosses of the Royal Bank of Scotland N'esy Pas Jean.Chretien and Jean Charest? To: public.enquiries@hmtreasury. < Steve.Gannon@citizensbank.com "jamie.dimon" <jamie.dimon@jpmorgan.com>, Jim.Hughes@citizensbank.com, newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, "derek.fildebrandt" < derek.fildebrandt@assembly. < stephen.m.cutler@jpmorgan.com < news@kingscorecord.com>, news <news@hilltimes.com>, Sheldon.Goldfarb@rbs.com, george.osborne.mp@parliament. "michael.gove.mp" <michael.gove.mp@parliament.uk < boris.johnson.mp@parliament. 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