Risk and reward for Holt Liberals as they reopen bilingualism debate in N.B.
Committee of MLAs will travel the province to hear from the public — the first such consultation in 4 decades
Premier Susan Holt’s Liberals are putting their commitment to listening to a major political test, inviting New Brunswickers to speak up on one of the province’s most delicate issues: official bilingualism.
A committee of MLAs held the first of three weeks of hearings at the legislature this week as part of a review of the Official Languages Act.
Next month, the committee will go on the road to hear directly from New Brunswickers in nine communities around the province, from Caraquet and Grand Falls to Woodstock and Saint John.
It’s a major shift from the secretive approach used in the last two reviews of the act.
Language issues can flare up easily in New Brunswick, as they did the last time a major public consultation took place four decades ago.
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MLA says there are risks and rewards to ending closed-door consultations.
“The risk is there, I agree, but I think also the reward is greater,” said Liberal MLA Benoît Bourque, who is chairing the committee.
“Because of that, I think it’s worth doing it. I think the good news is there is a majority of New Brunswickers that feel that bilingualism and the Official Languages Act is a positive thing.”
The 2002 Official Languages Act requires a mandatory review every 10 years.
The 2021 review by Blaine Higgs’s Progressive Conservative government involved quiet consultations with stakeholders behind the scenes.
In 2012, a committee of MLAs held hearings, but behind closed doors, a decision that Marie-Claude Blais, the PC attorney general at the time, said was justified.
"This is not an easy subject,” she said. “We all know in past history how this can bring out — people have different positions.”
Denis
Lavoie and Pascale Rioux-Doucet of the Association des juristes
d’expression française du Nouveau-Brunswick were part of the committee's
hearings. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)She was referring to language hearings in the 1980s on a government-commissioned report that recommended an expansion of language duality in provincial institutions beyond the school system.
The government of Richard Hatfield opted not to implement the report after hearings by an independent commission were marked by hostile comments, shouting and, in one case, someone throwing an egg at the commissioners.
The three days of hearings at the legislature this week were considerably different.
Several francophone stakeholder groups and others called for updates to the act with no hot-button exchanges or polarizing moments.
Suggestions from francophone organizations include giving enforcement powers for the official languages commissioner, requiring all court decisions be published in both English and French, and clarifying how the act applies to nursing homes.
The committee under the Holt government is being held openly. (New Brunswick Legislature Livestream)Nicole Arseneau Sluyter, the Acadian Society of New Brunswick president, said as a francophone living in Saint John, she did not expect to get nursing home services in her mother tongue in the future.
And Richard Losier, the New Brunswick Association of Nursing Homes CEO, warned against “a blanket approach” of requiring bilingual services in all homes.
“For some people, it’s very simple in their minds,” he told MLAs. “But it’s not as simple as that.”
Denis Lavoie, the president of an association of French-speaking lawyers, said holding these hearings in full public view was the right choice.
“Look, it’s super. I think it needs to be publicly addressed. It’s important for all citizens of New Brunswick, whatever first language is yours, I think it’s a must, and it helps to educate the citizens of the issues that are present.”
The push for changes to the act follows six years of frustration from francophone groups that felt former premier Higgs wasn’t sympathetic to their concerns.
Higgs argued in 2022 that “no one has lost anything, not one single thing” as a result of the independent review he commissioned.
His PC government created an official languages secretariat within the civil service but took a pass on substantive changes to the law itself.
The 2021 review also recommended reviews every five years, a suggestion Holt promised to implement during the last election.
With a large contingent of francophones in Holt’s Liberal caucus, there are now higher expectations.
“There seems to be a larger opening of minds in relation to this issue,” Lavoie said.
There are risks for the Liberals, however.
When bilingualism is thrust back into the public eye, any controversy can be made into a language issue.
At least one PC MLA has accused the Liberals of favouring francophone areas of the province with their decisions on tourism funding cuts.
“I think she’s trying to be divisive, to create a division between the French and the English,” Albert-Riverview MLA Sherry Wilson said recently.
She was commenting on increased spending for the Village Historique Acadien and Parlee Beach at the same as cuts to Cape Enrage in her riding.
Wilson declined a request this week to elaborate on her comments.
In 2018, then-premier Brian Gallant said he regretted not tackling the language issue more directly during his four years in power, which were marked by several bilingualism controversies.
“I should have talked more about its benefits to our economy and to our social fabric,” Gallant said in his final speech in the legislature as premier before losing a confidence vote.
“I also should have acknowledged more frequently the concerns of some with regard to how they felt bilingualism was impacting their lives in a negative way, while also publicly busting some of the myths about bilingualism.”
Bourque said this week the committee wants to have “most people heard properly … in an open and transparent fashion.”
Following this week’s hearings at the legislature, the remaining sessions will take place from June 16 to 26 in Grand Falls, Campbellton, Petit-Rocher, Caraquet, Rogersville, Moncton, Saint John, Fredericton and Woodstock.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Benoît Bourque
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Benoît Bourque was first elected to the Legislative Assembly in the September 2014 provincial election, and he was re-elected in 2018 and 2020 as member for Kent South. He was re-elected in 2024 as member for the new riding of Beausoleil—Grand-Bouctouche—Kent. He was Minister of Health from September 2017 to November 2018. He was also Minister responsible for Service New Brunswick from May 2018 to November 2018, in addition to briefly (October and November 2018) serving as Acting Minister of Aquaculture and Fisheries. In 2017, he was Chair of the Select Committee on Cannabis. He also serves or has served on many standing committees and was appointed Chair of the new Standing Committee on Official Languages in 2024.
Mr. Bourque has a bachelor’s degree in secondary education from the Université de Moncton and a master’s degree in international relations from the Université Laval. He has considerable training and teaching experience, which he gained as a school teacher, a facilitator for various workshops and training sessions, and a lecturer at the Université de Moncton.
He worked for about 15 years in international relations and cooperation in the public, parapublic, and private sectors. He was, among other things, director of the international relations office at the Université de Moncton from 2003 to 2012 and director of Concordia International at Concordia University, in Montreal, in 2012. In addition to visiting and working in about 30 countries, he worked for an extended period in Indonesia, Tunisia, and Romania.
Mr. Bourque lives in Grand-Bouctouche, New Brunswick, where he has a strong record of community service.
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Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f), we will resume our study of the modernization of the Official Languages Act.
This morning, we are pleased to have Benoît Pelletier, a professor at the University of Ottawa's Faculty of Law.
Welcome back, Mr. Pelletier. You have been here before.
We will proceed as usual.
Mr. Foucher has just arrived.
Mr. Foucher
is also a professor at the University of Ottawa's Faculty of Law. The
U of O is my alma mater. Welcome, Mr. Foucher.
As
usual, you will each have about ten minutes for your presentation,
followed by questions and comments from the committee members.
Let's start with you, Mr. Pelletier.
I
would like to thank the committee for inviting me here today to discuss
an important topic, the modernization of the Official Languages Act.
I
would like to congratulate you all on your work to promote and develop
Canada's linguistic duality. That brings me to my first point. I will
touch on just six points, each one briefly so I don't go over my
allotted time.
The
act does not mention Canada's linguistic duality. It does, of course,
refer to English and French as Canada's official languages. It also
talks about the development and vitality of English and French
linguistic minority communities. All of that implies that Canada has a
linguistic duality. However, the act does not specifically mention the
concept, which, I'm told, has been losing so much ground that, as
Senator Miville-Dechêne said at a recent seminar at the University of
Ottawa, attitudes toward linguistic duality in federal institutions are
becoming less and less friendly.
What
she said really worried seminar participants, and it made me realize
how important it is for Parliament and, ultimately, the Government of
Canada, to formally recognize the concept of Canadian linguistic
duality. As you know, multiculturalism and bilingualism have already
been recognized, and it might be time to recognize Canada's linguistic
duality as well.
My
second point is international immigration. The Official Languages Act
says precious little about immigration, which is absolutely crucial to
the vitality and development of official language minority communities,
especially francophone and Acadian communities. Their demographic weight
in this country is shrinking steadily.
It
seems to me that the modernization of the act provides an opportunity
to include provisions regarding immigration. However, great care must be
taken not to compromise the Canada-Quebec accord relating to
immigration. Lawmakers will have to be extremely careful when it comes
to respecting the agreement Quebec and the federal government have in
place.
My
third point is about Canada's international image. Perhaps the
Commissioner of Official Languages should be mandated to ensure that
Canada's institutions and representatives abroad convey an image of our
country that respects the linguistic duality I referred to earlier. In
other words, up to now, too little consideration has been given to
Canada's international image.
The
commissioner has well-established responsibilities here in Canada.
Sections 23 and 24 of the act relate to travellers and Canada's offices
abroad. I am familiar with those provisions, but the commissioner's role
with respect to Canada's international image should be much more
clearly defined.
I
would also note that the act does not prevail in all cases. According
to section 82, only some parts of the act prevail over other federal
acts and regulations. In my opinion, that partial primacy should no
longer be. I think all parts of the act should prevail.
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One
issue you probably did not expect me to raise is bilingualism in the
Supreme Court of Canada. I am thoroughly convinced that bilingualism is
possible in the Supreme Court of Canada. I am referring to section 16 of
the act, which covers courts other than the Supreme Court of Canada.
That means it is possible to institute bilingualism in the Supreme Court
of Canada without seeking a formal constitutional amendment. Anyone who
says otherwise is, I believe, mistaken. I have no compunction about
raising this important subject.
My
final point relates to something you have already heard a lot about:
the importance of strengthening the act, giving it teeth. At this time,
the commissioner does have important powers, it's true. For one, he has
the power to investigate, report and make recommendations, but he
doesn't have the power to impose sanctions. I think the time has come to
focus on that gap in the Official Languages Act and give the
commissioner the power to impose sanctions.
I
know quite a few people interested in linguistic rights in Canada have
proposed creating an administrative tribunal. I think that idea is worth
exploring. I can go into more detail when it's time for questions.
That concludes my presentation.
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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
As the Supreme Court justices say, I concur. I could stop right there, but I will add a few remarks of my own.
The
last time I appeared before the committee, we were talking about Air
Canada. Now the scope of the discussion has broadened to include the
entire act and how to strengthen its application.
As
everyone knows, the act is difficult to enforce. More and more things
are being allowed to slide. Just yesterday or the day before, a National
Energy Board report was published in English only, which is a clear
violation of the act. That should not happen. We need to find ways to
make sure it doesn't happen again. The Official Languages Act is now
50 years old, and violations like that are completely unacceptable.
That
said, how can the Official Languages Act be modernized and improved? I
will focus on a few points related to enforcement.
First,
I have long called for transferring responsibility for enforcing the
act to the Privy Council Office. PCO is crucial to the machinery of
government, and making it responsible for enforcement would be very
efficient and effective. That's how it worked under Stéphane Dion. Back
then, the act worked well. That would be one way to improve enforcement
of the act.
Second,
and on a similar note, it might be a good idea to clarify Justice
Canada's role. The act lists Treasury Board's and Canadian Heritage's
responsibilities, but the Department of Justice, though an important
player here, is not involved in applying the act.
Third,
a number of recent court cases have led to disappointment. In the Air
Canada case, for example, the court refused to award damages. Section 77
could be clarified to give judges some ideas. For example, it can state
explicitly that, where they find a party to have been in violation of
the act, they can award damages if appropriate.
Fourth,
there was a lot of talk about administrative penalties during the Air
Canada affair. It might be easier to sanction private entities, but the
Treasury Board Secretariat can impose administrative or monetary
penalties on departments too. Why not adopt a carrot-and-stick approach
and make it clear to departmental officials that constant, repeated,
ongoing violations of the act may affect their budgets?
The
final issue I want to talk about is an administrative tribunal. It
could be useful; there are pros and cons. It would be most useful for
part IV on language of service, part V on language of work, part VII on
positive measures and section 91, a technical provision on linguistic
designation of positions. An administrative tribunal's expertise could
be very useful in these areas, and having a tribunal deal with matters
would be faster and cheaper than going to Federal Court.
There
are cons, however, such as potential conflicts with other
administrative tribunals that can deal with official languages. There
will be legal debates over which body has the power to rule in a
particular case. It distances litigants from the court if they decide to
seek a judicial review in Federal Court following an administrative
tribunal's decision. I don't want to get too technical, but it's
important to know that when courts are conducting a judicial review of
an administrative body, they tend to respect the administrative
tribunal's jurisdiction and decline to intervene unless something
unreasonable was done.
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In
any case, I am not alone in saying that the existence of the court
challenges program, if not the details of how it operates, should be
included in the act. It's important to remember the court challenges
program. If an administrative tribunal were to be created, the court
challenges program would have to be authorized to pay for proceedings
before the administrative tribunal, not just the courts.
Thank you. I am happy to answer your questions.
Thank you very much, Mr. Foucher.
We will get right into questions and comments.
Mr. Clarke, you have the floor.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Pelletier
and Mr. Foucher, I'm very happy to see you here this morning. I was the
one who requested your appearance here.
Mr. Pelletier,
as I told you, I'm very happy to meet you. Many people have told me
that you are an accomplished constitutional expert. I think of myself as
an amateur constitutionalist. Maybe we can put that to the test.
I
would like to get right down to business. We decided to improve on the
Senate's study by focusing on elements related to the tribunal and the
positive measures mentioned in part VII. If I understand correctly, when
the act was last amended in 2005, lawmakers wanted to make the notion
of positive measures more tangible in part VII.
Mr. Pelletier,
I've been told that you are an expert on intergovernmental relations.
Perhaps you are too, Mr. Foucher. I don't know.
Here's
what I'd like to ask you. Take the Université de l'Ontario français, an
exceptional undertaking that, for the first time in Canada's history,
would give the federal government the opportunity to implement a truly
positive measure by circumventing the provincial government and funding
the university directly by various means. If that were to happen, what
would the consequences be?
Similarly,
if the wording of part VII were to extend beyond the realm of
possibility into duty, any community could, at some point, contact the
federal government, tell the government the community is dying, and call
on the government to take positive measures. My question is really two
questions in one.
First, in a case like that, how could the government determine if the community is truly in danger?
Second,
if the government were to take positive measures in an area under
provincial jurisdiction, what would the consequences be in terms of
shared jurisdiction under the Constitution?
I picked up on two things you said.
The
first is the division of legislative responsibilities, which both
levels of government must respect, of course. In other words, Parliament
cannot directly legislate in an area such as education, as in your
example.
The
division of legislative responsibilities is one thing, but federal
spending power is another. Although the jurisprudence has not provided a
definitive answer to date, the Supreme Court of Canada has, on many
occasions, shown itself to be in favour of the federal government using
its spending power regardless of the division of legislative
responsibilities. In other words, the Supreme Court has found that the
federal government can spend money in areas under provincial
jurisdiction and has never shown any sign of wanting to restrict that
power.
Some
may say that such statements are merely obiter dicta, incidental
expressions of the Supreme Court of Canada's opinion on federal spending
power. I can tell you that in some cases, such as Chaoulli, the Supreme
Court went a long way by legitimizing and affirming the Canada Health
Act, which, in a way, provides guidelines for federal spending on
health. Technically, therefore, Parliament can do a lot with its federal
spending power, even in areas under provincial jurisdiction.
That
brings us to the political problem of Canadian intergovernmental
relations. It would look very bad if the Government of Canada were to
intervene directly in matters under provincial jurisdiction against the
wishes of a provincial government. I cannot overemphasize how bad that
would look in terms of intergovernmental relations.
I
also know that a number of provinces, including Quebec—maybe especially
Quebec—are very resistant to accountability. What that means is that,
when the federal government spends money to help the provinces help
official language communities, Ottawa can ask for accountability. Many
of the provinces take a pretty vague approach to accountability, and
some are downright opposed to the idea of the federal level requiring
accountability for areas under provincial jurisdiction.
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Part VII
says that the minister “may”. If it said “must” instead of “may”,
you're saying that could be politically dangerous.
Given what you've said, do you think it would be a good idea to go that far an put the work “must” in part VII?
I don't think so.
I
have seen a number of recommendations about swapping “must” for “may”
in the act. Every time I see that, I feel that it suggests a lack of
political will or of will on the part of the Commissioner of Official
Languages himself to fully exercise his powers.
In the specific case you mentioned, no, I don't think it would be a good idea to replace “must” with “may”.
Thank you very much, gentlemen.
Mr. Foucher, we last saw each other a year ago, and before that, it had been quite a while.
Mr. Pelletier,
as I said earlier, I don't remember what forum I was at 10 years ago,
but you were a minister in Quebec at the time and a key supporter of
francophone minorities outside Quebec. That was much appreciated.
Mr. Pelletier,
I'd like to follow up on my colleague's question about jurisdiction,
the shared powers you mentioned and spending power. I find that very
interesting.
Minister Duclos
included a clause in the early learning and child care agreement
stating that there must be spaces for francophones. This is the first
time we've seen something concrete. It's not as much as we would like,
but it's a start.
You referred to Quebec, particularly in the context of immigration.
When it comes to spending power, if I give you something, I'd like to know how you're going to spend it.
Do you think we can add something to the act to strengthen that notion of accountability?
What
I can say is that, when it comes to agreements like the early childhood
agreement, it's down to intergovernmental negotiation. The federal
government can go as far as possible by including clauses that favour
Canada's francophone and Acadian communities.
It
has to negotiate, obviously. There has to be an agreement with the
province in question. In many cases, the Government of Canada manages to
include clauses in agreements to make them stronger and more robust
than previous agreements.
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For
example, for health, in addition to the bilateral agreement, we've
added two new investments, and the provinces cannot use that money for
anything else.
The
first investment is for mental health services, and the second is for
home care. We made those investments on condition that the money be used
for those purposes. The parties agreed, and that's how it's working,
which is extremely good.
Mr. Foucher,
I'd like to talk about the debate around the Montfort Hospital in
Ontario. The decision in that case is very interesting. The judge
clearly stated that institutions are crucial to the vitality and
longevity of communities. That is a very important concept. Not long
ago, someone talked about how Quebec protects its institutions, but in
minority communities, the institutions protect the community.
Would you like to comment on that?
If I may, I'd like to answer the first question you asked Mr. Pelletier.
I'm
thinking of the workforce development agreement with British Columbia,
which is currently before the Federal Court of Appeal because the lower
court decision was detrimental to communities.
I
see two possible responses to the situation. The first would be to
clarify section 25 of the act to say that provincial governments that
sign agreements act on behalf of the federal government, which makes
them responsible for accountability.
The
second would be to include a provision in the act to allow communities
that feel their province has violated the linguistic conditions of a
federal-provincial agreement to seek recourse. The problem is that
communities themselves do not sign these agreements. Either they should
be included in signing the agreements—which governments may not be open
to—or the act must provide a mechanism for third parties that believe
provisions directly affecting them have been violated to seek recourse.
That would enable communities themselves to hold provinces accountable
for violations of an agreement.
That's my answer to the first question.
—make
sure their concerns are addressed in agreements without actually having
them sign the agreements, which I doubt governments would accept.
I have one last question.
Mr.
Pelletier, I agree on the issue of Supreme Court justices. I also think
that we should include court challenges, the census, and immigration.
The whole issue of real estate is essential as well, since some people
across Canada do not have property or access to real estate. I know
there may be a possibility in sight with British Columbia. All these
issues should be included, but the question is where and how. Perhaps
you could tell us some other time.
I want to thank the witnesses for being here today.
We
also thank you for reminding us of the importance of having bilingual
judges at the Supreme Court and encouraging us to change the law
accordingly. The committee recently tabled a report on the matter,
recommending that the current government amend the Official Languages
Act or other legislation before the end of the current mandate to make
it a requirement for Supreme Court justices to be bilingual. However, I
don't think that is going to happen, sadly.
I
also want to say a few words about what the National Energy Board did
recently. It is horrible and you are right to mention it. I have been
following this translation issue since 2014, first with the Energy East
pipeline project and now with the Trans Mountain project. I moved a
motion in the House of Commons on the matter and I will be filing a new
complaint with the Commissioner of Official Languages.
As
you said, we now have a problem with some non-compliant agencies or
departments. Take the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, for example. The
Commissioner of Official Languages made three recommendations to the
RCMP that were so simple that my colleague Yvon Godin took it as a slap
in the face. However, five or six years later, the RCMP still has not
complied with these three simple recommendations, which is disrespectful
to the Commissioner of Official Languages. You provided some solutions,
but what can we do about agencies like the National Energy Board, which
does not respect both official languages, or the RCMP, which does not
respect the Commissioner of Official Languages? What can we do to
improve this situation?
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We
raised the possibility of charging administrative monetary penalties.
We also talked about budgetary consequences or even using an
administrative tribunal. It would also be possible to have a
recommendation by the commissioner registered by the Federal Court,
which would be the equivalent of a ruling by that court and would make
an agency in contempt of court if it failed to comply. That would be a
rather drastic solution, but the option is there.
I
believe you mentioned earlier that the Privy Council Office was
responsible for the Official Languages Act. Did I understand that
correctly?
I don't know. You would have to ask the government.
I'm
old enough to remember when Stéphane Dion was President of the Privy
Council. He specifically asked to be responsible for official languages
and that is when we had the first official languages action plan.
Let's
not forget that the clerk of the Privy Council is in charge of all
public servants. When an order comes from the Privy Council, public
servants obey it. The order has much more weight if it comes from the
Privy Council than if it comes from the Deputy Minister of Canadian
Heritage, for example. The same goes for the Treasury Board, which has
the power to approve budgets. If a department is required to ask for
money from the Treasury Board, then we know that the department will
meet Treasury Board requirements.
Accordingly,
if you want the administrative or bureaucratic implementation of the
legislation to be more effective, I suggest you entrust that to the
Privy Council Office. You'll see that the public service moves much more
quickly.
You
just mentioned the Privy Council Office and the Treasury Board. What
are the advantages and inconveniences of each of those agencies?
The
Treasury Board only takes care of the financial aspect. The Privy
Council Office has a much broader mandate, in other words, general
government policy, the operation of the machinery of government.
I
think matters surrounding the implementation of the Official Languages
Act exceed simple budgetary considerations. That is why I think it would
be better to give that role to the Privy Council Office.
The
Privy Council Office needs to be the central agency responsible. We
agree that there are currently structural problems with the
implementation of the Official Languages Act. Canadian Heritage has some
responsibility, as does the Treasury Board. It would be important to
have a central agency to coordinate enforcement of the entire Official
Languages Act.
I
think the thing going against the Privy Council is its lack of
transparency. The thing playing in its favour, however, is its weight
within the public service. Both its political weight and authority have
value. It has the necessary authority to oblige federal institutions and
departments to better comply with the Act. The Privy Council can also
have a vision for the future of the Act. It is not just about enforcing
the legislation, but also having an idea of what we want to do in the
years to come. In that vein, the Privy Council Office could prepare a
five-year development plan.
Reference
was made to this earlier, but I want to come back to the importance of
fully involving Francophone and Acadian communities in all the processes
surrounding the modernization of or ad hoc changes to the Act.
(1140)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I thank our guests for being here. It is truly a pleasure to hear their point of view.
I
would like to point out that Mr. Foucher had a successful tenure at an
Acadian university, the Université de Moncton. He must be the only
constitutional expert who can strum a guitar and sing Charlebois at the
top of his lungs and he sure did.
I
will leave it to my colleagues to talk about the merits of having an
administrative tribunal, even though I would like to discuss it, but I
will focus on another topic instead.
Mr.
Pelletier, the first point you raised in your opening remarks—a point
that Mr. Foucher subscribes to—was the following: the concept of
linguistic duality seems to have gone quietly into the night. It is not
something that seems to be talked about any more in Canada. I think that
is the main reason our Official Languages Act is weak and has no teeth.
This is not new and I would like you to expand on that. Why are we
still discussing this today? I think we need to nip the problem in the
bud and talk about it openly.
Before
we get into that, however, I would like you to explain the link between
this lost concept of linguistic duality and the age old separation of
legal powers between the provincial and federal governments. Many
witnesses have told us that if they cannot live, breathe, sing, write,
and dance in their mother tongue from early childhood and throughout
their education and post-secondary education, then they will not be able
to thrive and grow. My mother tongue is that of Antonine Maillet.
How
do you explain this lack of teeth in the Act or the fact that this
concept of linguistic duality seems to be lost in this beautiful and
great country of Canada?
I
will begin by saying that the Commissioner of Official Languages
defines linguistic duality as, “the presence of two linguistic
majorities cohabiting in the same country, with linguistic minority
communities spread across the country”. This evokes a concept we used to
hear a lot about, the fact that there are two major host communities.
There are two major linguistic groups in Canada and two host societies.
These groups have rights that are not only contemporary, but also
historic. Let's not forget that.
In
my view, we have put too much emphasis in Canada on the right of each
individual to choose between English and French and not enough emphasis
on the wealth and synergy that stems from the very coexistence of both
official languages. In my view, the concept that best translates this
dynamic between the two official languages is linguistic duality.
However,
I hear that linguistic duality is losing ground in some instances,
specifically at federal institutions, as some have mentioned. I think we
need political leadership to bring linguistic duality back to the
forefront. It is extremely important for linguistic duality to have more
of a presence in major official speeches across government, including
by the Prime Minister and not just in speeches by the minister
responsible for the Canadian Francophonie.
I
can assure you that if linguistic duality were truly a fundamental
value for Canada, as the Prime Minister, ministers and the entire
machinery of government have said, then most Canadians would realize
that they all have an interest in having their children learn French and
English to ensure that they have the brightest possible future in
Canada. For the longest time, that used to be the federal government's
message, that if people wanted to get ahead in Canada or give their
children the best chances, then they needed to have adequate knowledge
of both official languages.
That
being said, I hope that the political leadership that I attribute
mainly to the federal government will spread across the country and
result in more services in French and better collaboration with the
provinces. However, there is nothing I can do about the fundamental
problem of shared jurisdiction.
(1145)
That's what I was getting at in my question: how do we get there?
Do I have any time left, Mr. Chair?
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I am pleased to see my former colleague from the National Assembly of Quebec again.
Mr. Pelletier,
you said at the beginning that bilingualism has declined in government,
and the way Act is enforced is a testament to that. As I said earlier, I
am new to the committee and I am impressed by what I am seeing. Maybe
that's because at some point in Quebec we addressed the issue and
decided that French-Canadians from other provinces were not important.
I
understand that many communities do not have schools for francophones. I
am told that in Vancouver only one in five francophones has access to a
spot in the early childhood network. There is a lack of funding and the
issue of accountability was raised earlier. Let's not forget the
significant number of francophone immigrants. I think that we have all
the ingredients to promote bilingualism, but now we need legislation
with more teeth.
Mr. Foucher,
you started talking about accountability earlier and I found that
interesting. The school boards are telling us that even though funding
is available they have no say in how the money is distributed. In fact,
the money is not devoted to French education and the school boards are
disadvantaged. I liked your suggestion that the organizations sign the
agreement or have recourse if they do have the right to sign it. How
could we include that in the legislation?
I
imagine this could be included in Part VII of the Act as a positive
measure. There is also the option of recognizing, as Judge Ouellette did
in the case of the Yukon francophone school board, that the federal
money is given in trust.
My
colleague Mark Power suggested giving federal education funding
directly to official language minority school boards. That is currently
an option in every province except Quebec, where funding Anglo-Quebec
organizations directly requires the approval of the provincial
government under a provision of the Loi sur l'exécutif du Québec, if I
am not mistaken.
These
are different ideas, different ways in which we could solidify this
option. We might also incorporate accountability into the Act.
(1150)
Mr. Pelletier,
you talked about the wealth of bilingualism. I think that people in
English Canada understand that better than we do if we look at the
number of immersion schools. In Quebec, however, we seem to fear
bilingualism. We continue to be insecure and fear assimilation instead
of looking at the 2.4 million francophones outside Quebec as assets for
promoting our language and culture. How could we change the mentality of
Quebeckers and their government when it comes to seeing the benefits of
bilingualism? I think your political experience will help you answer
that question.
As
you know, bilingualism exists at the federal level and in a more
comprehensive way in New Brunswick. As for the other Canadian provinces,
a certain form of bilingualism exists in Quebec and Manitoba under
section 133 of the Constitution Act, 1867, and section 23 of the
Manitoba Act, 1870, respectively. What is more, section 23 of the
Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms applies to every province in
Canada. However, subsection 23(1)(a) will not apply to Quebec until that
province accepts that provision.
In
other words, like Quebec, which chose to have just one official
language, French, most Canadian provinces make their own choices on
linguistic matters. However, that is no reason to stop promoting
bilingualism across Canada, including in several sectors of the federal
government. We must promote bilingualism. We have seen some positive
signs, including the fact that immersion schools are bursting at the
seams and there is demand for more immersion schools, or the fact that
every province except British Columbia, I believe, has legislation on
receiving services in French. That is significant progress across the
country.
The
other good news is that the Official Languages Act is much better
perceived these days than it was when it was passed and it is accepted
by the vast majority of Canadians. The bad news is the gradual decline
in the demographic weight of francophones in Canada.
I
would like to briefly come back to immigration, Mr. Chair. It would
indeed be important for the commissioner to be responsible for
maintaining the demographic weight of official language minority
communities across the country. It would also be important for the
Government of Canada to make an extra effort to achieve the immigration
targets that have been set. This would help mitigate or counter the loss
of demographic weight, which is the biggest threat for francophones in
Canada, which, unfortunately, is an argument that plays against Canadian
federalism.
If
I may, Mr. Pelletier, I will interrupt you so that everyone can
intervene because we are running out of time. You can finish your
comments by answering the questions from the other members of the
committee.
We will now continue with Mr. Bernard Généreux for two minutes.
I would like to point out that those two minutes include time for answers.
Mr. Généreux, you have the floor.
Mr. Pelletier told us he had to leave at noon. If Mr. Foucher can stay a bit longer, I have no problem with that either.
I
am told that Mr. Foucher cannot stay longer either. Mr. Pelletier and
Mr. Foucher notified us that they could not stay any later than noon.
(1155)
Go ahead, Mr. Généreux.
Mr. Pelletier, Mr. Foucher, thank you for being here.
I want to quickly come back to the Commissioner of Official Languages.
Personally
— I am not speaking for my party — I have always had a problem with the
idea of a monetary penalty of any kind. The question is quite simple:
if the Commissioner of Official Languages obtains the power to fine the
government — regardless the department — for non-compliance with the
Act, who will pay? We can all agree that the money will come out of the
left pocket only to be put in the right pocket.
I
can't imagine a scenario where the Commissioner of Official Languages
would give a department X fine only to then have the Treasury Board
asked to disperse the funds required to pay the fine. Something doesn't
add up there. However, if the commissioner asked the Treasury Board to
reduce the budget of a department or a given project as a form of
penalty, then the department would be sure to react differently than if
it were to receive a simple fine because money talks. In any case, it
comes out of the same pocket.
Fining
Air Canada is different. By the way, Air Canada is the only airline
subject to the Act. The others can do what they want and will no longer
be penalized in any way, which will do nothing to improve the French
situation in Canada.
See
what I mean? I understand the idea of using some sort of pressure on
all the departments, but the reality is — as you said, Mr. Pelletier —
that it takes political will to enforce the Act.
The
important thing is to hit the pocketbook, as you said. So far,
departments only get recommendations. These punishments would apply only
to repeat offenders, those who still do not understand after 4, 5, 6,
or 10 investigations, that they are still in breech of the Act and have
still not corrected the problem. It is up to you to consider the
political possibility of addressing this with fines or reduced budgets.
My main argument is the need for immediate, direct, financial
consequences for the departments.
It
is noon, the time at which we promised to release you. However, this
discussion is truly very interesting. Can we invite you to come back to
resume this discussion? If so, I will ask the clerk to work out a time
for you to appear again.
There are a lot of outstanding issues and your very interesting testimony gives the committee food for thought.
Thank you very much for being here this morning.
We will now suspend the meeting.
https://droitslinguistiques.ca/en/blog/chercheurs/pierre-foucher
Pierre FOUCHER
Professeur
Pierre Foucher a été professeur aux facultés de droit de Moncton et
d'Ottawa, de 1980 à 2020. Spécialiste du droit constitutionnel et des
droits des minorités linguistiques au Canada, il a publié plus de 100
articles, chapitres de livre, rapports de recherche ou livres sur ces
questions, essentiellement en langue française. Il a été professeur
invité dans plusieurs universités à travers le monde.
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Court hears drug dealer sold crystal meth to undercover cop
A Moncton woman avoided jail on Monday for selling drugs to an undercover police officer four years ago.
“Hopefully you’ll prove me right for taking a chance on you,” provincial court Judge Luc Labonté told Paula Anne-Marie Goguen, 57, at her sentencing. “You’re on the right path, keep it up.”
Goguen was one of approximately 19 people charged as part of the RCMP’s Operation J Transformer, in which undercover police bought drugs from street-level traffickers in 2021 and 2022. She pleaded not guilty to trafficking crystal meth on Nov. 10, 2022, and was to stand trial but instead pleaded guilty the day it was to start.
Prosecutor Damien Lahiton asked for two years in prison. He said while she only sold one gram of meth on one occasion for $50, it’s a highly addictive and deadly substance. He said people often go to prison for trafficking meth, though sometimes their circumstances lead to a community-based sentence.
Defence lawyer Michel DesNeiges asked for a conditional sentence order with house arrest
followed by a curfew. He said his client has health problems and has had a difficult life, dealing with drug addiction and abuse.
DesNeiges said his client is in a drug rehab program, has a place to live, and helps other people who had been in her situation. He said she has shown real change in the almost four years since she sold meth to the Mountie.
“She’s doing much better today than she was in 2022,” he said.
Working against the offender was a criminal record with many breaches of probation and court orders, leading the judge to wonder if she will follow conditions if she serves her time at home.
While many drug traffickers do go to prison, they aren’t all incarcerated. Even within the J Transformer prosecutions, while many went to prison - Lahiton said the sentencing range was 1840 months - at least two served their sentences in the community, though the specific details of those cases that led to such sentences were not known on Monday.
Goguen asked the court for a chance.
“I regret my actions, doing what I did,” she said.
She added that she was trying to save money to buy a tombstone for a family member who had died and had planned to stop selling once that was done.
The judge determined that her crime deserved 12 months in jail, but he made it 18 months and will allow her to serve it at home, with the first year on house arrest and the rest on curfew. Labonté said that places the onus on her, because if she follows all her conditions she avoids jail, but if she breaches them she could serve the rest in jail, resulting in a longer jail term than if he had just sent her away for 12 months.
Goguen also has to pay a $50 fine as a way of repaying the money the undercover cop gave her.
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Unbelievable is the only word for this malicious nonsense
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 20:00:57 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Mario Dion Unbelievable is the only word
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ER controversy hurts P.C.'s already diminished standing in francophone
New Brunswick
The party already had marketing issues in the north, now they're worse off
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 25, 2020 6:00 AM AT
286 Comments
Robert G. Holmes
Face it; Too many provincial admin costs! Only one Health System, and
one Education System, (for starters), is affordable in the Atlantic
Region. Think of the benefits. Think sustainably. Get the Politicians
out of Education and Health.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert G. Holmes: I agree
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Give this man his Medicare card!
Marc Martin
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: His current job as Santa Claus is the
reason why they wont allow it...
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Marc Martin: The poor man needs to see a shrink real bad!
Marc Martin
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I know, he now wants to send a sheriff
to some Marc Martin across the province...
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: More libel???
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: You wouldn't know what libel is if it stared you
right in the face.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: We shall see if the RCMP agrees with you or not
Mack Leigh
Poor, poor Jacques Poitras ! His " Liberal " is showing yet again...
Just another piece slanted in the hopes of garnering more Liberal
support... Remember Gallant ? Remember Graham ? This province has had
more than enough Liberal governments to last a lifetime.
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: YUP
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I have had enough of incompetent CoRservatives
so what do you sugest ?
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you know as well as i that I suggested
that if Higgy were a wiseguy he would have fired you a long time ago
N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: That's why he does not listen to you, he would
have fired the wrong guy...
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Nope
Archie Levesque
Reply to @Marc Martin: What is a CORservative? Is that the same as an
SANB Liberal but just a different color?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Then call/write to him again .
Marc Martin
Reply to @Archie Levesque: They are affiliated with PANB you should know this...
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Why not send a sheriff to your home to serve a summons?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Marc Martin: Green or Purple would be a good choice.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Go ahead...
Marc Martin
Reply to @Fred Brewer: I would vote green, but for you to sugest I
vote for an anti-French group is hilarious.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: *Why not send a sheriff to your home to serve a
summons?* I am still waiting....
Cleve Gallant
The liberals caused this mess and now they’re upset with Higgs because
he hasn’t got a magic wand to make things better,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Yeah blame it on the Liberals...The Liberals
didn't go with the recommendations tough now did they?
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: Some people are scared to hear the truth,Now
that’s a proven fact especially with SANB,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: What does SANB have to do with this ?
Archie Levesque
Reply to @Marc Martin: So you prefer the Liberal solution of - do
nothing and hope it resolves itself?
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: Duh,Try everything that that has to do with duplication,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: How about closing 1 hospital in Moncton for
then night, its not like they are busy anyways they have a 2 hr wait
compared to other regions.
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: You should really do your research before
stating something, Two hour wait? Try eight to twelve hour wait thanks
to the liberals,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: I know people who live in Moncton its a known
fact they don't need the second hospital at night lets save money !!!
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: Than close the DUMONT,Maybe that will make you happy,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Oh I see, so your are for closing every
hospitals that are French oriented, that explains all.
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: English the universal language of the world,
That must be hard for you to swallow,
Mack Leigh
Reply to @Marc Martin: All hospitals in this province are " French
oriented " and that is in and of itself a large part of the
problem..Incessant pandering to one group where only 3 to 5 % do not
speak English is absolutely ludicrous and an blatant waste of
taxpayers money that would be well spent elsewhere.
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I live in Fredericton they don't even have
French services at front, so obviously you have no idea what your
talking about. *blatant waste of taxpayers money that would be well
spent elsewhere. * And ? Where are these numbers ? How much money
would be saved ?
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks Marc Baby is a very nervous camper
today N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: *You are more than capable of addressing
non-francophones in English so what is the problem* I cannot have the
same rights then you do ? What if someone only spoke to you in French
? *your German ? Your Arabic ? Your Korean ?* We are in Canada where
there is only 2 official languages.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Yeah I am so nervous......I do feel entertained
that I have triggerd a bunch here .
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: How many other Marc Martins do you know who are
camped in Fat Fred City?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Why would you ask me ? I don't go around and
stalk people under false pretentions.
Mack Leigh
Reply to @Marc Martin: Oh, did not realize that German was being
included as a " Official " language.
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Its not, only French and English are. There is a
solution for you there is a whole country that speaks German.....
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Did you just libel me again?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin ?
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you will know for certain if I opt to
serve you a summons in person because the cops won't do their job You
cannot deny that libel is a criminal act under section 300 N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Go ahead...I am waiting.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: I am still waiting....
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Davis ?
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Subject: YO Mr Higgs you and the Health Care CEOs should not deny that
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:51:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I just caught Krissy Baby being a LIAR on
Rogers TV and they cut me off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
[Le français suit.]
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:02:48 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I just caught Krissy Baby being a LIAR on
Rogers TV and they cut me off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
I will be away from the office returning on Monday, February 24th
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
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>
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> David AmosToo too Funny
> David AmosAsk Chucky why i was barred from the leg 2 years before he was
> David AmosAsk Austin what he thought of the email everyone including
> Chucky got on Feb 14th
> David AmosAsdk Austin what he thinks of my lawsuit against the Crown
> David AmosChucky did attend one of the hearings because he and
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> David AmosI take false arrest very personally
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> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:59:18 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
> imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
> want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
> To: Rhonda.Brown@globalnews.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts"
> <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "geoff.regan" <geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca>,
> "Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Ian.Shugart"
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> "andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, david.akin@globalnews.ca
>
> Need I say that I am tired of being called a perennial candidate on TV?
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogs
>
>
> Monday, 22 May 2017
>
> Before writs were dropped in BC and NS The VERY UNETHICAL "Journalist"
> David Akin scores a new job as CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT Global
> News???
> Methinks that by now mindless David Akin would have figured out that
> just like one of my favourite artists Gordy Lightfoot I am still alive
> and kicking. However if you scroll to the bottom of this blog you will
> see byway of his Tweets Davey Boy continues to ignore my emails even
> after I talk to his lawyer and send them both a Hell of an email. Go
> figure why I am not surprised. EH Commissioner Bobby Paulson of the
> RCMP?
>
> Do tell does the CBC or the CRTC or CTV or Roger TV or even CPAC or
> anyone else recall back in 2015 when I stress tested the ethics of
> David Boy Akin and his gal pal Kady Baby O'Malley about voting etc
> during and after the election of the 42nd Parliament? I did that years
> after I talked to Akin the first in in 2004 when he worked for CTV and
> about 2 years or so after Kady had blocked me within Twitter when she
> and her snobby buddies such as Jesse Brown, Jian Ghomeshi, Greg Weston
> and Evan Solomon used to work for CBC too.
>
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> Rhonda Brown
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> Rhonda is a journalist with more than 24 years experience in the
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> As Supervising Producer, she works with news staff in Halifax and New
> Brunswick in the gathering the day’s stories and getting them to air
> on Global News at 6 pm.
>
> Born in Newfoundland and raised in Ottawa, she’s lived in Halifax for
> more than 22 years.
>
> She’s held a variety of roles with both Global News and CBC over her
> career, with a brief foray into public relations.
>
> A perennial candidate is a political candidate who frequently runs for
> an elected office and rarely, if ever, wins. The term is the opposite
> of an incumbent politician who repeatedly defends their seats
> successfully.
>
> Perennial candidates can vary widely in nature. Some are independents
> who lack the support of the major political parties in an area or are
> members of alternative parties (such as third parties in the United
> States). Others may be mainstream candidates who can consistently win
> a party's nomination, but because their district is gerrymandered or a
> natural safe seat for another party, the candidate likewise never gets
> elected (thus these types are often paper candidates). Still others
> may typically run in primary elections for a party's nomination and
> lose repeatedly. Numerous perennial candidates, although not all, run
> with the full knowledge of their inability to win elections and
> instead use their candidacy for satire, to advance non-mainstream
> political platforms, or to take advantage of benefits afforded
> political candidates (such as campaign financing, name recognition,
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> Subject: Re: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE
> false imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear
> Horizon want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of
> Office )
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> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:17:08 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
> imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
> want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
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> Vitalité CEO stands behind postponed emergency room proposals
>
>
> Proposals 'were very good, were very sound, were evidence based,' said
> Gilles Lanteigne
>
> Jordan Gill · CBC News · Posted: Feb 18, 2020 10:33 AM AT
>
> 28 Comments
>
> David Amos
> Methinks Gilles Lanteigne and I should finally have a long talk ASAP N'esy
> Pas?
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Barbara Massey <Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:30:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
> imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
> want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
>
> I am out of the office until Tuesday, February 18 and have
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>
>>>> David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
>
> Methinks it must be because of my recent comments in CBC about your
> nonsense about emergency Rooms etc N’esy Pas???
>
> Here is just a few that are recorded within my blog etc
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blog
>
>
> Wednesday, 12 February 2020
>
> Deputy premier must decide whether to fall in line on health-care
> reforms, Higgs says
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
>
>
> Doctor shortage forces overnight closure at Sackville ER
>
> More er closures are possible before hours are permanently reduced on March
> 11
>
> CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:32 AM AT
>
>
>
> 57 Comments
> Commenting is now closed for this story.
>
>
> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Go Figure These are obviously not my Tweets but I did run against the lady
>
>
> Chisholm Pothier
> @chisholmp
> ·
> Feb 10
> The plan hasn’t even been announced yet and it’s already being
> condemned. We know one thing for sure - we cannot keep delivering
> Health the way we have. It isn’t sustainable with an aging population
> and needs have changed with demographic change anyway. #nbpoli /1
>
> Quote Tweet
> Alaina Lockhart
> @AlainaLockhart
> · Feb 9
> Premier @BlaineHiggs you can’t grow NB by reducing services in rural
> areas. NB needs strong rural comms to thrive. The @townofsussex is key
> to the region. You need to start thinking about the people impacted in
> your quest to improve the bottom line.
> https://twitter.com/nsteinbach
>
>
> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @David Amos: Chisholm Pothier no longer speaks for the
> government Correct?
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> David Amos
> Need I say I got a few calls after supper last night and the people
> who called could tell I was pretty cranky about something? Trust that
> what I heard on CBC this morning did not help my mood any..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> Methinks the real problem is that Higgy and Flemming can't get enough
> bilingual folks who want to work within our Health Care System N'esy
> Pas?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows since the time of
> Trudeau The Elder New Brunswick has been a great place to grow up and
> get an education but to find work most of our young ones must head
> west somewhere on the far side of Quebec. If the truth hurts so be it
> N'esy Pas?
>
>
>
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>
>
> David Amos
> On CBC this morning I heard our mindless Health Minister direct folks
> to the emergency room in another province. Methinks we have not heard
> that last about that N'esy Pas??
>
>
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>
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>
> Jim Cyr
> The people of New Brunswick are some of the silliest people in the
> world. It’s been hilarious to see almost all of them completely turn
> off their brains and freak out over Higgs’ emergency rooms plan. The
> people will now vote out the PCs, of course......just as their silly
> media masters tell them to do. And so the NB medical/fiscal/poverty
> situation will just get worse and worse and worse than it already is..
> You can’t make this kind of stuff up, folks!! Amazing to see.
> Mind-numbingly predictable and monotonous. It’s like kubuki theater at
> this point.. BAD kubuki theater.....lol
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks you may be cluing in as to why I call this
> a circus If you can't find fun in the madness then you will go crazy
> like they claim I am. Yea I'm crazy alright. Some say I'm crazy like a
> fox others say I am just another narcissistic fool Hard telling not
> knowing for sure but one thing is for certain I am having fun laughing
> at all the people who laughed at me N'esy Pas?
>
> However I can be as crazy as i want to be Higgy should ask the shinks
> in the loonie bin of the DECH what they did with the wiretap tape of
> the mob that I gave them in 2008 that the RCMP refuse to investigate.
>
> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @Jim Cyr:
> Silly? It's just plain "goofy". And once the CONServatives are gone,
> having been exchanged for the Liberals, the process will repeat
> itself, over and over.
> Not one among us able to figure out the only end result is our pocket
> remain empty.
>
>
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>
> Michael Durant
> We need to begin serious talks with Doctors Without Boarders
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Michael durant: Try again That one went over like a lead balloon
>
> Ben Haroldson
> Reply to @Michael durant: borders
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Yves Savoie
> Get your popcorn ready!!! The circus has begun....
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Yves Savoie: Wanna trade some of your popcorn for peanuts?
>
> Methinks Trump and everybody knows I have been enjoying the circuses
> on both sides of the 49th for many years from the peanut galley.
> Trump's minions know that just before July 4th, 2002 within a
> statement of Claim against an incredible number of Yankee lawyers I
> promised that I would run in the next Election in Canada. I have
> remained true to my word and have run 7 times thus far. I joined the
> clowns in the centre ring no only to to add my two bits worth and but
> to witness the high diving acts up close and personal. Trust that
> Harper and Higgy et al know that i dearly love the splash just my kids
> and I did at Sea World a long long time ago N'esy Pas?
>
> Ben Haroldson
> Reply to @David Amos: Kudos to that, and if you were in my riding you
> would get my vote, fed or prov.
>
> Lou Bell
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would give him 14 votes
>
> Lou Bell
> Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks trumps and everybody knows I have
> been enjoy.. .... ...... " !!! You really think trump knows who you
> are ?? Seriously ???????????
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you want his lawyers cell number?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Lou Bell: Better yet do you want me to give them yours so
> you can say hey to your Yankee heroes who locked me up in 2004?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks for the vote of confidence
>
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> Ben Haroldson
> The Doctors are just helping to move things along. No sense waffling
> if things are that dire.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So you say
>
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>
>
> Terry Tibbs
> What do you *think*? Coincidence, or not?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all know the wicked game by now N'esy
> Pas?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: BTW I was born in the Sackville Hospital in 1952
> and it saved my butt 3 years later when I went into a coma for a
> month. Methinks for that reason alone I should raise hell to defend
> it. Methinks it should be rather obvious that I quite simply don't
> care what my cousin Megan Mitton and all her Green Party pals say or
> do about it N'esy Pas?
>
> Holly Mossing
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not coincidence: ERs and Labour and Delivery
> units have been randomly closing for years due to staffing issues.
> That’s part of the problem, and this move will be part of the
> solution. Government being responsible by listening to the health
> authorities.
>
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> SarahRose Werner
> How is the pool of doctors who provide nighttime ER coverage supplied?
> Are these doctors who also work day jobs? Does staffing the ER
> overnight make doctors less accessible to patients who seek service
> during the day?
>
> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Overnight Doctors come from the family
> practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
> work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
> night shift starts. After midnight, the ER is emergencies only, so you
> will be triaged by a nurse, then depending on the triage, you may or
> may not see a doctor.
>
> This Friday, from how it seems, there will be no doctor at all; I'm
> not sure if a tirage nurse will assess people however.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Apparently not, because the ER will be
> closed entirely. Which makes sense because triage is a sorting
> procedure, not a treatment procedure. The word "triage" comes from the
> process of sorting battlefield patients into three levels: those will
> recover even without treatment, those who will even if treated and
> those for whom treatment will make a difference. If there's no one
> available to provide treatment, there's no point doing triage.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: "Overnight Doctors come from the family
> practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
> work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
> night shift starts." - I'm not surprised that doctors who've already
> worked during the day are averse to taking overnight shifts as well.
>
> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
> Why would they be "adverse"? If the "stories" told to us are true,
> after supper the family practice doctor heads out to the ER for 7pm,
> taking paperwork, or reading material, to catch up on.
> Right around maybe 10, or 11pm they pull up a bed and have a snooze,
> because there "might" be only 5 patients overnight, (this is "the
> claim") maybe only one needing his/her attention, so the nurse can
> wake him/her up as required. 7am the shift ends, doctor leaves fully
> rested,12 hours pay richer.
> In some cases, if the doctor lives real close, they go home, coming in
> only if needed.
>
> Holly Mossing
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes, it does, which is part of the
> problem. These are great shifts for doctors to pick up (quiet and pay
> very well), but don’t help the health of local people overall because
> the doc may see 5 urgent patients overnight but not be able to work at
> see *25* the next day. That’s a big capacity issue.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Its a pity that nobody in Sackville would
> listen to me this week
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: However I will disclose that the Office of the
> CEO of one of our Health Care systems called me a few days before
> Flemming's big announcement in order to reach an understanding as to
> why I am going to file a lawsuitin order to get my Medicare Card and
> other things. I have heard nothing but crickets since. Methinks they
> think I am bluffing Others know I am not N'esy Pas?
>
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> Ian Scott
> It would help if the management would outline what it takes to have an
> ER open 24/7. I do not think a lot of the public has a clue as to what
> it means to open an ER to all comers and the staff then needed to
> cover all reasonable issues. You cannot confuse the public and
> ambulances etc where to go each night if staffing gets short. It makes
> it worse. If you staff with general practice then they must have
> extended training in ER issues. Otherwise the next thing is the
> complaint that things were not done . Then comes the standard
> equipment needed for stroke trauma etc, like CT scanners etc. Even
> appendectomy becomes an issue without ultrasound or CT. Its really a
> standard of practice and it requires a service level that is very
> difficult to reach in small centers. Otherwise you just end up
> shipping people out again and delaying diagnostics and the right
> treatment, some of which are time related. Would you want surgery for
> something that is not needed? Or have blood thinners given when you
> actually have a brain bleed etc.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Ian Scott: One thing I've been reading in comments on
> stories on this issue is that people mention being "stabilized" in a
> smaller centre before being shipped out to a larger one. Not being a
> medical professional, I don't know what resources and skills are
> required to "stabilize" patients. Is this something that could be
> achieved in some other way, for example, by expanded and improved
> paramedic service?
>
> Ian Scott
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: That is the care in bigger centers, well
> trained paramedics to stabilize at site and transport. Still most
> stroke issues need CT before treatment. Heart issues may be
> "stabilized" with drugs etc but transfer really is key for assessment
> . Trauma , (major) , needs a trauma center. I am not sure how many
> paramedics can intubate in the field at this point in NB but even an
> acute asthma or allergic issue might need it. Its what has been
> suggested. The numbers are small in many of these towns.Even having
> those staff may prove difficult down the road. Helicopter Air
> ambulance is another issue, complex and expensive but out there.
> Freddy is a trauma center for a certain level , but even it only has a
> snowfield for landing.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Ian Scott: Okay, so if someone has a heart attack, acute
> allergic attack, stroke, etc. in Sussex in the middle of the night and
> that person needs some sort of immediate treatment to tide them over
> until they get to the Saint John Regional, how is that provided? To
> me, that's the crux of the issue here. I agree that 24/7 ER service in
> all locations is not the answer. What are other possible answers?
>
> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: In that situation, the patient will be
> sent on to Saint John/Moncton (not sure which hospital in regards to
> Sussex) regardless if they are stable or not.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Are there increased to the patient if
> they're sent on without stabilization? What are those? What will be
> done to ameliorate those risks?
>
> Holly Mossing
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: There is a great study on this that showed
> that cardiac patients who were “stabilized” at a small center then
> transferred had worse outcomes and a higher death rate than patients
> who bypassed their local ER and were brought directly to where they
> could receive specialized care, for example. (
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m
> paramedics need to be normalized in New Brunswick and supported to
> make health care as safe as possible. I’ve never voted Conservative
> but in this case Higgs’ government is doing absolutely the responsible
> thing. We need to make sure they follow through with increased daytime
> services.
>
> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must have read some of my
> comments N'esy Pas?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmmmm
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> Donald Smith
> There has to be a reason, or reasons why NB Cannot attract them ???????
>
> Mack Leigh
> Reply to @Donald Smith: There definitely is however no one is allowed
> to talk about the " Elephant " in the room.
>
> Ian Scott
> Reply to @Mack Leigh: Major centers are not really having that issue
> except for OR constraints for time for some specialists and no beds
> because of acute care bed blockers. Bathurst has excellent docs as
> does Edmonston and they are better at language issues than the south.
> Freddy and SJ and the Moncton centers also attract excellent staff.
> Its in between that is the issue , and medicine has changed , as have
> expectations and the standard of care. An ER is just that , all
> comers, not a clinic. One has to meet rigid standards of care. And
> those are hard to meet in 4k population or less towns and villages.
> Aging issues are one of the biggest issues and its being met poorly.
> Billing numbers are a thing of the past so not in the question. There
> could certainly be some concern I suppose of young docs worried about
> potential language issues but low.
>
> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @Ian Scott: What people seem to forget is that Sackville,
> while a population of 5000 including Mt. Allison students, also
> services Dorchester, Memramcook, Port Elgin, Murry Corner as well as
> we get patients from the Cape like Cocagne, Cap Pele, Shediac. We've
> had people from Moncton and surrounding area come to our hospital in
> increasing numbers over the past two years, even as far as Anagance,
> AND we get people from NS as well like River Hebert and Amherst. It
> isn't just NB, but NS we serve too.
>
> So no, we don't have a 4K or less patient possibility, we have much
> more than that.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Then maybe NS would like to contribute
> some money to pay for overnight service at the ER.
>
> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
> Don't you believe for a moment they don't.
> Show an out of province medicare card at a NB hospital and the eyes
> light up like a one armed bandit hitting a jackpot.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Donald Smith: Everybody knows the reasons
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Mack Leigh: I do
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian Robertson
> This is just the logical next step in the deterioration of healthcare
> under the thumb of a government administered monopoly.
> When you have no money and no Doctors and costs are still increasing
> because all your workers are members of public service unions that can
> hold the public hostage; what else can happen?
> The viability of single payer healthcare is based on the metering of
> services in order to control costs.
> Public needs and individual abilities to pay simply do not factor into
> the equation.
>
> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @Brian Robertson:
> Hold the phone, Just STOP, and *think* for a moment, you have been
> misdirected just like you are supposed to be.
> EVERY other province, or territory, has "evil" union belonging health
> professionals, this is not a NB only "thing".
> We are supposed to be short of 100, maybe 200, health professionals
> needed per capita (a different number pops out whenever those in
> charge are asked).
> We know the pay and benefits in NB are "short" hence the shortage of
> health professionals.
> Yet the cost of healthcare is higher (per capita) than every other
> province, or territory.
> So, either EVERYONE in NB is constantly sick, or the extra cost is
> somewhere else other than with the health professionals.
> I respectfully *think* you should be looking elsewhere.
>
> Brian Robertson
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
> All Provincial healthcare systems are following the same pattern
> decline; except possibly Quebec who enjoys a lucrative infusion of
> Federal transfer payments annually. New Brunswick just seems to be
> ahead of the curve in terms of declining services and wait times.
> There is more than enough blame to go around for this spiral trip
> around the drain. Yes, and that includes your healthcare
> professionals.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he knows you are correct Quebec is a
> UNILINGUAL Province Hence its costs are less N'esy Pas?
>
>
>
>
>
> John Pokiok
> There you have it no Doctor wants to live in rural setting it's a hard
> core fact.
>
> Ian Scott
> Reply to @John Pokiok: Thats not really true. Being an ER doc is a
> different fish from a GP office setting. It requires an extension of
> training.If you open an ER then you have every issue from Intubation
> to trauma to poisoning, heart attack stroke, delivery etc. ER trained
> docs are a separate entity . You are asking a GP to be everything and
> have little backup and extended hours and then have a practice in the
> community. It takes a serious block of staff to do this around the
> clock. And to have surgical backups for obstetrics etc.And to then
> live in communities with 4K people is not easy.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @John Pokiok: Many do when they retire
>
> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @John Pokiok: And yet we just had *2* doctors from US
> background move to Sackville to practice. It's not a matter of no
> doctors wanting to move to rural areas.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Maybe they are willing to cover the midnight
> shift
>
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 3:58 PM
Subject: ReThe SANB versus Higgs and I and Section 300 of the Criminal code I just called SNB again we shall if the CBC and the RCMP will reveal who this Marc Martin character and his buddy Deschamps truly are and wheter I am crazy or not
To: <pascale.bergeron@snb.ca>, marc.martin <marc.martin@snb.ca>, Mark.Blakely <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, ian.fahie <ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Bill.Blair <Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, Office of the Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, kris.austin <kris.austin@gnb.ca>, Jacques.Poitras <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, steve.murphy <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, Nathalie Sturgeon <sturgeon.nathalie@brunswicknews.com>
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Date: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 3:58 PM
Subject: ReThe SANB versus Higgs and I and Section 300 of the Criminal code I just called SNB again we shall if the CBC and the RCMP will reveal who this Marc Martin character and his buddy Deschamps truly are and wheter I am crazy or not
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Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, carl.urquhart <carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>, Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG) <Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, blaine.higgs <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, robert.mckee <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, greg.byrne <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, Brenda.Lucki <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, barbara.massey <barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, <barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>, <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
ER controversy hurts P.C.'s already diminished standing in francophone
New Brunswick
The party already had marketing issues in the north, now they're worse off
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 25, 2020 6:00 AM AT
286 Comments
Robert G. Holmes
Face it; Too many provincial admin costs! Only one Health System, and
one Education System, (for starters), is affordable in the Atlantic
Region. Think of the benefits. Think sustainably. Get the Politicians
out of Education and Health.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert G. Holmes: I agree
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Give this man his Medicare card!
Marc Martin
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: His current job as Santa Claus is the
reason why they wont allow it...
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Marc Martin: The poor man needs to see a shrink real bad!
Marc Martin
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I know, he now wants to send a sheriff
to some Marc Martin across the province...
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: More libel???
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: You wouldn't know what libel is if it stared you
right in the face.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: We shall see if the RCMP agrees with you or not
Mack Leigh
Poor, poor Jacques Poitras ! His " Liberal " is showing yet again...
Just another piece slanted in the hopes of garnering more Liberal
support... Remember Gallant ? Remember Graham ? This province has had
more than enough Liberal governments to last a lifetime.
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: YUP
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I have had enough of incompetent CoRservatives
so what do you sugest ?
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you know as well as i that I suggested
that if Higgy were a wiseguy he would have fired you a long time ago
N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: That's why he does not listen to you, he would
have fired the wrong guy...
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Nope
Archie Levesque
Reply to @Marc Martin: What is a CORservative? Is that the same as an
SANB Liberal but just a different color?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Then call/write to him again .
Marc Martin
Reply to @Archie Levesque: They are affiliated with PANB you should know this...
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Why not send a sheriff to your home to serve a summons?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Marc Martin: Green or Purple would be a good choice.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Go ahead...
Marc Martin
Reply to @Fred Brewer: I would vote green, but for you to sugest I
vote for an anti-French group is hilarious.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: *Why not send a sheriff to your home to serve a
summons?* I am still waiting....
Cleve Gallant
The liberals caused this mess and now they’re upset with Higgs because
he hasn’t got a magic wand to make things better,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Yeah blame it on the Liberals...The Liberals
didn't go with the recommendations tough now did they?
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: Some people are scared to hear the truth,Now
that’s a proven fact especially with SANB,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: What does SANB have to do with this ?
Archie Levesque
Reply to @Marc Martin: So you prefer the Liberal solution of - do
nothing and hope it resolves itself?
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: Duh,Try everything that that has to do with duplication,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: How about closing 1 hospital in Moncton for
then night, its not like they are busy anyways they have a 2 hr wait
compared to other regions.
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: You should really do your research before
stating something, Two hour wait? Try eight to twelve hour wait thanks
to the liberals,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: I know people who live in Moncton its a known
fact they don't need the second hospital at night lets save money !!!
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: Than close the DUMONT,Maybe that will make you happy,
Marc Martin
Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Oh I see, so your are for closing every
hospitals that are French oriented, that explains all.
Cleve Gallant
Reply to @Marc Martin: English the universal language of the world,
That must be hard for you to swallow,
Mack Leigh
Reply to @Marc Martin: All hospitals in this province are " French
oriented " and that is in and of itself a large part of the
problem..Incessant pandering to one group where only 3 to 5 % do not
speak English is absolutely ludicrous and an blatant waste of
taxpayers money that would be well spent elsewhere.
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I live in Fredericton they don't even have
French services at front, so obviously you have no idea what your
talking about. *blatant waste of taxpayers money that would be well
spent elsewhere. * And ? Where are these numbers ? How much money
would be saved ?
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks Marc Baby is a very nervous camper
today N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: *You are more than capable of addressing
non-francophones in English so what is the problem* I cannot have the
same rights then you do ? What if someone only spoke to you in French
? *your German ? Your Arabic ? Your Korean ?* We are in Canada where
there is only 2 official languages.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Yeah I am so nervous......I do feel entertained
that I have triggerd a bunch here .
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: How many other Marc Martins do you know who are
camped in Fat Fred City?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Why would you ask me ? I don't go around and
stalk people under false pretentions.
Mack Leigh
Reply to @Marc Martin: Oh, did not realize that German was being
included as a " Official " language.
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Its not, only French and English are. There is a
solution for you there is a whole country that speaks German.....
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Did you just libel me again?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin ?
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you will know for certain if I opt to
serve you a summons in person because the cops won't do their job You
cannot deny that libel is a criminal act under section 300 N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Go ahead...I am waiting.
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: I am still waiting....
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Davis ?
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:09:55 -0400
Subject: YO Mr Higgs you and the Health Care CEOs should not deny that
I just caught Krissy Baby Austin being a LIAR on Rogers TV and they
cut me off TRUE or FALSE???
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From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:51:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I just caught Krissy Baby being a LIAR on
Rogers TV and they cut me off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
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From: "Cameron, Melanie Dawn (HorizonNB)" <MelanieDawn.Cameron@horizonnb
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:02:48 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I just caught Krissy Baby being a LIAR on
Rogers TV and they cut me off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
I will be away from the office returning on Monday, February 24th
Melanie Cameron
Executive Assistant
506-465-4433
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On 2/20/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> Kris Austin, People's Alliance - Voice of the Province - February 20, 2020
> 19 watching now
>
> Rogers tv
> 32.1K subscribers
>
>
> David AmosToo too Funny
> David AmosAsk Chucky why i was barred from the leg 2 years before he was
> David AmosAsk Austin what he thought of the email everyone including
> Chucky got on Feb 14th
> David AmosAsdk Austin what he thinks of my lawsuit against the Crown
> David AmosChucky did attend one of the hearings because he and
> Vickers are mentioned in the lawsuit
> David AmosI take false arrest very personally
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:59:18 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
> imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
> want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
> To: Rhonda.Brown@globalnews.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts"
> <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "geoff.regan" <geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca>,
> "Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Ian.Shugart"
> <Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, "ian.fahie" <ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, david.akin@globalnews.ca
>
> Need I say that I am tired of being called a perennial candidate on TV?
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogs
>
>
> Monday, 22 May 2017
>
> Before writs were dropped in BC and NS The VERY UNETHICAL "Journalist"
> David Akin scores a new job as CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT Global
> News???
> Methinks that by now mindless David Akin would have figured out that
> just like one of my favourite artists Gordy Lightfoot I am still alive
> and kicking. However if you scroll to the bottom of this blog you will
> see byway of his Tweets Davey Boy continues to ignore my emails even
> after I talk to his lawyer and send them both a Hell of an email. Go
> figure why I am not surprised. EH Commissioner Bobby Paulson of the
> RCMP?
>
> Do tell does the CBC or the CRTC or CTV or Roger TV or even CPAC or
> anyone else recall back in 2015 when I stress tested the ethics of
> David Boy Akin and his gal pal Kady Baby O'Malley about voting etc
> during and after the election of the 42nd Parliament? I did that years
> after I talked to Akin the first in in 2004 when he worked for CTV and
> about 2 years or so after Kady had blocked me within Twitter when she
> and her snobby buddies such as Jesse Brown, Jian Ghomeshi, Greg Weston
> and Evan Solomon used to work for CBC too.
>
> https://globalnews.ca/author/r
>
> Rhonda Brown
> Supervising Producer
> 902 481 4440
>
> Rhonda is a journalist with more than 24 years experience in the
> television industry.
>
> As Supervising Producer, she works with news staff in Halifax and New
> Brunswick in the gathering the day’s stories and getting them to air
> on Global News at 6 pm.
>
> Born in Newfoundland and raised in Ottawa, she’s lived in Halifax for
> more than 22 years.
>
> She’s held a variety of roles with both Global News and CBC over her
> career, with a brief foray into public relations.
>
> A perennial candidate is a political candidate who frequently runs for
> an elected office and rarely, if ever, wins. The term is the opposite
> of an incumbent politician who repeatedly defends their seats
> successfully.
>
> Perennial candidates can vary widely in nature. Some are independents
> who lack the support of the major political parties in an area or are
> members of alternative parties (such as third parties in the United
> States). Others may be mainstream candidates who can consistently win
> a party's nomination, but because their district is gerrymandered or a
> natural safe seat for another party, the candidate likewise never gets
> elected (thus these types are often paper candidates). Still others
> may typically run in primary elections for a party's nomination and
> lose repeatedly. Numerous perennial candidates, although not all, run
> with the full knowledge of their inability to win elections and
> instead use their candidacy for satire, to advance non-mainstream
> political platforms, or to take advantage of benefits afforded
> political candidates (such as campaign financing, name recognition,
> and television advertising benefits).
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rédaction <nouvelle@acadienouvelle.com>
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 09:17:12 -0800
> Subject: Re: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE
> false imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear
> Horizon want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of
> Office )
> To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.co
>
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> imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
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> Proposals 'were very good, were very sound, were evidence based,' said
> Gilles Lanteigne
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> Jordan Gill · CBC News · Posted: Feb 18, 2020 10:33 AM AT
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> 28 Comments
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> David Amos
> Methinks Gilles Lanteigne and I should finally have a long talk ASAP N'esy
> Pas?
>
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> From: Barbara Massey <Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:30:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
> imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
> want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
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>>>> David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
>
> Methinks it must be because of my recent comments in CBC about your
> nonsense about emergency Rooms etc N’esy Pas???
>
> Here is just a few that are recorded within my blog etc
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> https://davidraymondamos3.blog
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>
> Wednesday, 12 February 2020
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> Deputy premier must decide whether to fall in line on health-care
> reforms, Higgs says
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
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> Doctor shortage forces overnight closure at Sackville ER
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> More er closures are possible before hours are permanently reduced on March
> 11
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> CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:32 AM AT
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> 57 Comments
> Commenting is now closed for this story.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Go Figure These are obviously not my Tweets but I did run against the lady
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> Chisholm Pothier
> @chisholmp
> ·
> Feb 10
> The plan hasn’t even been announced yet and it’s already being
> condemned. We know one thing for sure - we cannot keep delivering
> Health the way we have. It isn’t sustainable with an aging population
> and needs have changed with demographic change anyway. #nbpoli /1
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> Quote Tweet
> Alaina Lockhart
> @AlainaLockhart
> · Feb 9
> Premier @BlaineHiggs you can’t grow NB by reducing services in rural
> areas. NB needs strong rural comms to thrive. The @townofsussex is key
> to the region. You need to start thinking about the people impacted in
> your quest to improve the bottom line.
> https://twitter.com/nsteinbach
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @David Amos: Chisholm Pothier no longer speaks for the
> government Correct?
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> David Amos
> Need I say I got a few calls after supper last night and the people
> who called could tell I was pretty cranky about something? Trust that
> what I heard on CBC this morning did not help my mood any..
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> David Amos
> Methinks the real problem is that Higgy and Flemming can't get enough
> bilingual folks who want to work within our Health Care System N'esy
> Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows since the time of
> Trudeau The Elder New Brunswick has been a great place to grow up and
> get an education but to find work most of our young ones must head
> west somewhere on the far side of Quebec. If the truth hurts so be it
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> David Amos
> On CBC this morning I heard our mindless Health Minister direct folks
> to the emergency room in another province. Methinks we have not heard
> that last about that N'esy Pas??
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> Jim Cyr
> The people of New Brunswick are some of the silliest people in the
> world. It’s been hilarious to see almost all of them completely turn
> off their brains and freak out over Higgs’ emergency rooms plan. The
> people will now vote out the PCs, of course......just as their silly
> media masters tell them to do. And so the NB medical/fiscal/poverty
> situation will just get worse and worse and worse than it already is..
> You can’t make this kind of stuff up, folks!! Amazing to see.
> Mind-numbingly predictable and monotonous. It’s like kubuki theater at
> this point.. BAD kubuki theater.....lol
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks you may be cluing in as to why I call this
> a circus If you can't find fun in the madness then you will go crazy
> like they claim I am. Yea I'm crazy alright. Some say I'm crazy like a
> fox others say I am just another narcissistic fool Hard telling not
> knowing for sure but one thing is for certain I am having fun laughing
> at all the people who laughed at me N'esy Pas?
>
> However I can be as crazy as i want to be Higgy should ask the shinks
> in the loonie bin of the DECH what they did with the wiretap tape of
> the mob that I gave them in 2008 that the RCMP refuse to investigate.
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> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @Jim Cyr:
> Silly? It's just plain "goofy". And once the CONServatives are gone,
> having been exchanged for the Liberals, the process will repeat
> itself, over and over.
> Not one among us able to figure out the only end result is our pocket
> remain empty.
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> Michael Durant
> We need to begin serious talks with Doctors Without Boarders
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Michael durant: Try again That one went over like a lead balloon
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> Ben Haroldson
> Reply to @Michael durant: borders
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> Yves Savoie
> Get your popcorn ready!!! The circus has begun....
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Yves Savoie: Wanna trade some of your popcorn for peanuts?
>
> Methinks Trump and everybody knows I have been enjoying the circuses
> on both sides of the 49th for many years from the peanut galley.
> Trump's minions know that just before July 4th, 2002 within a
> statement of Claim against an incredible number of Yankee lawyers I
> promised that I would run in the next Election in Canada. I have
> remained true to my word and have run 7 times thus far. I joined the
> clowns in the centre ring no only to to add my two bits worth and but
> to witness the high diving acts up close and personal. Trust that
> Harper and Higgy et al know that i dearly love the splash just my kids
> and I did at Sea World a long long time ago N'esy Pas?
>
> Ben Haroldson
> Reply to @David Amos: Kudos to that, and if you were in my riding you
> would get my vote, fed or prov.
>
> Lou Bell
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would give him 14 votes
>
> Lou Bell
> Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks trumps and everybody knows I have
> been enjoy.. .... ...... " !!! You really think trump knows who you
> are ?? Seriously ???????????
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you want his lawyers cell number?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Lou Bell: Better yet do you want me to give them yours so
> you can say hey to your Yankee heroes who locked me up in 2004?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks for the vote of confidence
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> Ben Haroldson
> The Doctors are just helping to move things along. No sense waffling
> if things are that dire.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So you say
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> Terry Tibbs
> What do you *think*? Coincidence, or not?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all know the wicked game by now N'esy
> Pas?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: BTW I was born in the Sackville Hospital in 1952
> and it saved my butt 3 years later when I went into a coma for a
> month. Methinks for that reason alone I should raise hell to defend
> it. Methinks it should be rather obvious that I quite simply don't
> care what my cousin Megan Mitton and all her Green Party pals say or
> do about it N'esy Pas?
>
> Holly Mossing
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not coincidence: ERs and Labour and Delivery
> units have been randomly closing for years due to staffing issues.
> That’s part of the problem, and this move will be part of the
> solution. Government being responsible by listening to the health
> authorities.
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> SarahRose Werner
> How is the pool of doctors who provide nighttime ER coverage supplied?
> Are these doctors who also work day jobs? Does staffing the ER
> overnight make doctors less accessible to patients who seek service
> during the day?
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> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Overnight Doctors come from the family
> practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
> work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
> night shift starts. After midnight, the ER is emergencies only, so you
> will be triaged by a nurse, then depending on the triage, you may or
> may not see a doctor.
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> This Friday, from how it seems, there will be no doctor at all; I'm
> not sure if a tirage nurse will assess people however.
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> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Apparently not, because the ER will be
> closed entirely. Which makes sense because triage is a sorting
> procedure, not a treatment procedure. The word "triage" comes from the
> process of sorting battlefield patients into three levels: those will
> recover even without treatment, those who will even if treated and
> those for whom treatment will make a difference. If there's no one
> available to provide treatment, there's no point doing triage.
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> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: "Overnight Doctors come from the family
> practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
> work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
> night shift starts." - I'm not surprised that doctors who've already
> worked during the day are averse to taking overnight shifts as well.
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> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
> Why would they be "adverse"? If the "stories" told to us are true,
> after supper the family practice doctor heads out to the ER for 7pm,
> taking paperwork, or reading material, to catch up on.
> Right around maybe 10, or 11pm they pull up a bed and have a snooze,
> because there "might" be only 5 patients overnight, (this is "the
> claim") maybe only one needing his/her attention, so the nurse can
> wake him/her up as required. 7am the shift ends, doctor leaves fully
> rested,12 hours pay richer.
> In some cases, if the doctor lives real close, they go home, coming in
> only if needed.
>
> Holly Mossing
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes, it does, which is part of the
> problem. These are great shifts for doctors to pick up (quiet and pay
> very well), but don’t help the health of local people overall because
> the doc may see 5 urgent patients overnight but not be able to work at
> see *25* the next day. That’s a big capacity issue.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Its a pity that nobody in Sackville would
> listen to me this week
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @David Amos: However I will disclose that the Office of the
> CEO of one of our Health Care systems called me a few days before
> Flemming's big announcement in order to reach an understanding as to
> why I am going to file a lawsuitin order to get my Medicare Card and
> other things. I have heard nothing but crickets since. Methinks they
> think I am bluffing Others know I am not N'esy Pas?
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> Ian Scott
> It would help if the management would outline what it takes to have an
> ER open 24/7. I do not think a lot of the public has a clue as to what
> it means to open an ER to all comers and the staff then needed to
> cover all reasonable issues. You cannot confuse the public and
> ambulances etc where to go each night if staffing gets short. It makes
> it worse. If you staff with general practice then they must have
> extended training in ER issues. Otherwise the next thing is the
> complaint that things were not done . Then comes the standard
> equipment needed for stroke trauma etc, like CT scanners etc. Even
> appendectomy becomes an issue without ultrasound or CT. Its really a
> standard of practice and it requires a service level that is very
> difficult to reach in small centers. Otherwise you just end up
> shipping people out again and delaying diagnostics and the right
> treatment, some of which are time related. Would you want surgery for
> something that is not needed? Or have blood thinners given when you
> actually have a brain bleed etc.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Ian Scott: One thing I've been reading in comments on
> stories on this issue is that people mention being "stabilized" in a
> smaller centre before being shipped out to a larger one. Not being a
> medical professional, I don't know what resources and skills are
> required to "stabilize" patients. Is this something that could be
> achieved in some other way, for example, by expanded and improved
> paramedic service?
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> Ian Scott
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: That is the care in bigger centers, well
> trained paramedics to stabilize at site and transport. Still most
> stroke issues need CT before treatment. Heart issues may be
> "stabilized" with drugs etc but transfer really is key for assessment
> . Trauma , (major) , needs a trauma center. I am not sure how many
> paramedics can intubate in the field at this point in NB but even an
> acute asthma or allergic issue might need it. Its what has been
> suggested. The numbers are small in many of these towns.Even having
> those staff may prove difficult down the road. Helicopter Air
> ambulance is another issue, complex and expensive but out there.
> Freddy is a trauma center for a certain level , but even it only has a
> snowfield for landing.
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> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Ian Scott: Okay, so if someone has a heart attack, acute
> allergic attack, stroke, etc. in Sussex in the middle of the night and
> that person needs some sort of immediate treatment to tide them over
> until they get to the Saint John Regional, how is that provided? To
> me, that's the crux of the issue here. I agree that 24/7 ER service in
> all locations is not the answer. What are other possible answers?
>
> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: In that situation, the patient will be
> sent on to Saint John/Moncton (not sure which hospital in regards to
> Sussex) regardless if they are stable or not.
>
> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Are there increased to the patient if
> they're sent on without stabilization? What are those? What will be
> done to ameliorate those risks?
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> Holly Mossing
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: There is a great study on this that showed
> that cardiac patients who were “stabilized” at a small center then
> transferred had worse outcomes and a higher death rate than patients
> who bypassed their local ER and were brought directly to where they
> could receive specialized care, for example. (
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m
> paramedics need to be normalized in New Brunswick and supported to
> make health care as safe as possible. I’ve never voted Conservative
> but in this case Higgs’ government is doing absolutely the responsible
> thing. We need to make sure they follow through with increased daytime
> services.
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must have read some of my
> comments N'esy Pas?
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> David Amos
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmmmm
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> Donald Smith
> There has to be a reason, or reasons why NB Cannot attract them ???????
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> Mack Leigh
> Reply to @Donald Smith: There definitely is however no one is allowed
> to talk about the " Elephant " in the room.
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> Ian Scott
> Reply to @Mack Leigh: Major centers are not really having that issue
> except for OR constraints for time for some specialists and no beds
> because of acute care bed blockers. Bathurst has excellent docs as
> does Edmonston and they are better at language issues than the south.
> Freddy and SJ and the Moncton centers also attract excellent staff.
> Its in between that is the issue , and medicine has changed , as have
> expectations and the standard of care. An ER is just that , all
> comers, not a clinic. One has to meet rigid standards of care. And
> those are hard to meet in 4k population or less towns and villages.
> Aging issues are one of the biggest issues and its being met poorly.
> Billing numbers are a thing of the past so not in the question. There
> could certainly be some concern I suppose of young docs worried about
> potential language issues but low.
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> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @Ian Scott: What people seem to forget is that Sackville,
> while a population of 5000 including Mt. Allison students, also
> services Dorchester, Memramcook, Port Elgin, Murry Corner as well as
> we get patients from the Cape like Cocagne, Cap Pele, Shediac. We've
> had people from Moncton and surrounding area come to our hospital in
> increasing numbers over the past two years, even as far as Anagance,
> AND we get people from NS as well like River Hebert and Amherst. It
> isn't just NB, but NS we serve too.
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> So no, we don't have a 4K or less patient possibility, we have much
> more than that.
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> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Then maybe NS would like to contribute
> some money to pay for overnight service at the ER.
>
> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
> Don't you believe for a moment they don't.
> Show an out of province medicare card at a NB hospital and the eyes
> light up like a one armed bandit hitting a jackpot.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Donald Smith: Everybody knows the reasons
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Mack Leigh: I do
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> Brian Robertson
> This is just the logical next step in the deterioration of healthcare
> under the thumb of a government administered monopoly.
> When you have no money and no Doctors and costs are still increasing
> because all your workers are members of public service unions that can
> hold the public hostage; what else can happen?
> The viability of single payer healthcare is based on the metering of
> services in order to control costs.
> Public needs and individual abilities to pay simply do not factor into
> the equation.
>
> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @Brian Robertson:
> Hold the phone, Just STOP, and *think* for a moment, you have been
> misdirected just like you are supposed to be.
> EVERY other province, or territory, has "evil" union belonging health
> professionals, this is not a NB only "thing".
> We are supposed to be short of 100, maybe 200, health professionals
> needed per capita (a different number pops out whenever those in
> charge are asked).
> We know the pay and benefits in NB are "short" hence the shortage of
> health professionals.
> Yet the cost of healthcare is higher (per capita) than every other
> province, or territory.
> So, either EVERYONE in NB is constantly sick, or the extra cost is
> somewhere else other than with the health professionals.
> I respectfully *think* you should be looking elsewhere.
>
> Brian Robertson
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
> All Provincial healthcare systems are following the same pattern
> decline; except possibly Quebec who enjoys a lucrative infusion of
> Federal transfer payments annually. New Brunswick just seems to be
> ahead of the curve in terms of declining services and wait times.
> There is more than enough blame to go around for this spiral trip
> around the drain. Yes, and that includes your healthcare
> professionals.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he knows you are correct Quebec is a
> UNILINGUAL Province Hence its costs are less N'esy Pas?
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> John Pokiok
> There you have it no Doctor wants to live in rural setting it's a hard
> core fact.
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> Ian Scott
> Reply to @John Pokiok: Thats not really true. Being an ER doc is a
> different fish from a GP office setting. It requires an extension of
> training.If you open an ER then you have every issue from Intubation
> to trauma to poisoning, heart attack stroke, delivery etc. ER trained
> docs are a separate entity . You are asking a GP to be everything and
> have little backup and extended hours and then have a practice in the
> community. It takes a serious block of staff to do this around the
> clock. And to have surgical backups for obstetrics etc.And to then
> live in communities with 4K people is not easy.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @John Pokiok: Many do when they retire
>
> Elaine MacDonald
> Reply to @John Pokiok: And yet we just had *2* doctors from US
> background move to Sackville to practice. It's not a matter of no
> doctors wanting to move to rural areas.
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> David Amos
> Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Maybe they are willing to cover the midnight
> shift
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