Judgment Day: B.C. Liberal tactics set up difficult decision for lieutenant-governor
Judith Guichon has a choice to make — anoint a new premier or send voters back to the polls
By Justin McElroy & Richard Zussman, CBC NewsPosted: Jun 29, 2017 2:00 AM PT
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Kevin Delaney
But, But, But... the BC voters did not fully understand just how much I want to stay in power.
Yes, indeed power is addictive & it is a thing once addicted folks cling too. ReHab required.
David Raymond Amos
@Kevin Delaney But But But
she just might pull this off yet. Trust that I am no fan of hers but the
lady ain't dumb. If the Crown calls another election she could get her
majority. If not then she has lots of time too con some folks into
crossing the floor and then she can topple the NDP and their Green
buddies anyway. Need I say I love the circus?
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos Methinks the lady will now pursue my predicted option # 2. What say you?
Former B.C. premier Mike Harcourt on the challenges and next steps for John Horgan
Harcourt faced a similar situation as Horgan when he was elected in 1991
By Clare Hennig, CBC NewsPosted: Jul 01, 2017 6:00 AM PT
Mike Harcourt served as the premier of British Columbia from 1991 to 1996. (CBC)
Sixteen years of B.C. Liberal rule have come to an end and
premier-designate John Horgan now has the task of implementing his
party's policies with a minority government, in a province used to
having a Liberal premier.
But he's not the only one in B.C. politics to have faced such a
situation. Back in 1991, Mike Harcourt's NDP government was elected
after 16 years of Social Credit Party rule.
Harcourt spoke with CBC's On The Coastguest
host Gloria Macarenko about the challenges Horgan will face and what
his next moves should be, as someone who has been in a similar position
in the past.
The throne speech and alliance with the Green Party are signs of a
government that can learn to agree and work together, he said.
"[Horgan] is hopefully going to face tri-party agreement on all those
major issues which are part of the New Democrat government platform,"
Harcourt said.
He knows there won't be unanimous votes on all issues, he said, but hopes that the sailing can still be smoother than expected.
"There is basic agreement on a huge number of things between the
Greens and the New Democrats and, now, the Liberals under Christy Clark
and their throne speech," he said. "I think there will be a lot of
[tri-party agreement] but there will be some sharp elbows going up too
and some curve balls."
In particular, Harcourt is hopeful about the alliance between the NDP and the Green Party which he described as "sturdy."
To listen to the full interview with Harcourt, click on the audio link below:
Site C, Crown corporations and appointments
Horgan worked for Harcourt as a staffer when he was premier and Harcourt said he considers him a friend.
"I have great respect for him," Harcourt said. "He's a very
experienced hand. He understands the urban areas and he has a real feel
and passion for the natural resource communities."
This means, Harcourt said, that he wants to see Horgan pull out of the Site C dam.
"I hope he mothballs it, because it's going to become a $15- to-$17
billion dollar financial white elephant nightmare," he said. "Site C has
so many problems."
A lot of the province's Crown corporations, such as B.C. Hydro and
ICBC have boards appointed by the B.C. Liberals, but Harcourt said that
should not be a factor when it comes to dealing with the new government
in power.
The bigger challenge is reworking them to be more efficient.
"Putting them on a solid financial footing is the first thing," he
said. "Secondly, a change in direction for B.C. Hydro is necessary, and I
think ICBC being drained of its reserves is very imprudent and B.C.
Ferries has got some work to do."
The next few months will be a transitory period as the new government
is briefed and finds its footing, Harcourt said. One of the decisions
he most anticipates is who will be appointed to the various ministerial
positions.
Judgment Day: B.C. Liberal tactics set up difficult decision for lieutenant-governor
Judith Guichon has a choice to make — anoint a new premier or send voters back to the polls
By Justin McElroy & Richard Zussman, CBC NewsPosted: Jun 29, 2017 2:00 AM PT
British Columbia Premier Christy Clark greets Lt.-Gov.
Judith Guichon prior to the delivery of the 2015 speech from the throne
inside the legislature in Victoria, B.C. (Jonathan Hayward/Canadian
Press)
It will likely be the most crucial political decision Lt.-Gov. Judith Guichon ever has to make.
If the B.C. Liberals lose the confidence of the house today, she will
decide to either dissolve parliament and thrust the province into an
election or ask NDP leader John Horgan to govern.
And it's a decision Premier Christy Clark has made as difficult as possible.
Five weeks ago, when the B.C. Greens and NDP reached an agreement,
Clark indicated that it was inevitable she would lose power because her
party had fewer MLAs than the alliance.
But in the past week, Clark has done everything possible to set up
the premise that her opponents would provide unstable governance.
First, it was introducing a speech from the throne full of ideas the Greens and NDP have supported for years.
Then, it was introducing legislation that she knew her opponents support in principle — but was predictably voted down.
Next, it was raising concern and creating written documentation that a Speaker in a legislature deadlocked at 43 votes each would be breaking generations of parliamentary precedent in B.C.
Finally, it was going against most constitutional experts and
announcing she would not provide any advice to the lieutenant-governor
if she lost the confidence of the house — but would bring certain facts
up, if asked.
"It's not my intention to advise her whether she should call an election. That's her decision," said Clark.
"But here's what I do know: in these conversations between a premier
and an LG at moments like this, she will probably will ask me some
questions. I've gotta be honest: you've seen what I've seen this week.
It isn't working.
"The constitutional experts like to speculate on what has happened,
but it is the premier's option to let her make her own decision about
this, and that is what I intend to do."
There's been some speculation that voters — weary after a bitter,
divisive election — would punish any politician thought to have forced
the province into another round of voting so soon after the last
campaign.
Clark's choice without precedent
"I am a little bewildered to be honest. I just don't understand
precisely what she is saying," said Carleton University constitutional
expert Philippe Lagasse.
Lagasse and many others say premiers have only two options when
losing a non-confidence vote: to ask for a dissolution, which would
trigger an election, or to advise there are parties in the legislature
that could provide stable governance.
Offering no advice and solely answering questions is not something Lagasse has ever heard of.
Until now.
"I don't understand what the premier thinks her third option is. To
simply say I leave it up to you. I leave it up to you to what? To go
into an election without advice? No, that's unconstitutional,"
Lagasse added.
How today plays out
The non-confidence vote could happen anytime the Liberals stop
sending members to speak on the speech from the throne, but will likely
happen around 5:30 p.m. PT.
If Clark is defeated, there will be about 30 minutes between the vote
and when she heads 2.4 kilometres east to Government House and meets
with Guichon.
How and when Guichon will communicate her decision to the public is
unknown, because her representatives have offered little response to
media requests.
NDP Leader John Horgan presents his non confidence motion in the B.C. Legislature on June 28, 2017. (Hansard)
While this unfolds, NDP Leader John Horgan is left twisting in the
wind. He believes that he could provide stable government with the
support of the Greens. But aside from the letter he has already sent the
lieutenant-governor, he has had no other communication, nor is he
allowed to.
"I can't predict what other people will do. I have done my
responsibility," said Horgan. "We will win the vote, and then it's in
the hands of the lieutenant-governor. I'm hopeful she'll do the right
thing … there is a majority on one side of the house. We should be given
an opportunity to govern."
Whatever happens will be the first of its kind in British Columbia.
It's either the shortest duration between elections ever — while
creating brand new constitutional conventions — or the first
inter-election transfer of power in B.C. since political parties were
established.
B.C. Liberals ask for guidance on role of Speaker in ties
'It’s about trying to trigger an election that they don’t want to take responsibility for,' NDP claim
By Justin McElroy, CBC NewsPosted: Jun 27, 2017 1:40 PM PT
Newly appointed Speaker Steve Thomson is led by the
sergeant-at-arms to start the throne speech debate in Victoria, B.C., on
Monday, June 26, 2017. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chad Hipolito)
With nothing on the agenda for the B.C. Liberals between now and a
non-confidence vote Thursday they expect to lose, House Leader Mike de
Jong has made a unique request to the Speaker.
"What is the role of the Speaker in various circumstances? What is
the role of breaking tie votes? What is their role if there were to be
proposed changes to the standing orders?" said de Jong to reporters,
explaining the official letter that was submitted to the Speaker Tuesday
morning.
"I put a series of questions to the Speaker and asked for guidance on
the basis, I think, all members would be interested in knowing the
answers to those questions definitively and in an authoritative way."
De Jong said the request was relevant given the "very real
possibility" the NDP, with support from the Green Party, would form
government following the non-confidence vote. If current Liberal Speaker
Steve Thomson resigns, the NDP would likely be forced to have his
replacement come from their ranks, resulting in 43 Liberal MLAs and
43 NDP and Green MLAs.
"I think the workability of a reconfigured parliament with an
NDP-Green government based on the numbers is going to be challenging,
but it's most important today what the role of the Speaker would be in
that situation," he said.
But de Jong protested the idea the report by the current Speaker —
which he requested be issued before Thursday's vote — would be used to
try and persuade Lieutenant-Governor Judith Guichon that a snap election
would be preferable to a NDP government.
"My pre-eminent concern is that members have this information from an authoritative source."
NDP House Leader Mike Farnworth addresses reporters on June 27, 2017. (Justin McElroy/CBC)
'Games playing by this government'
De Jong's request was immediately denounced by NDP House Leader Mike Farnworth.
"It seems to me to be another in a series of attempts by this
government to deny this obvious, which is: they are going to be defeated
in a throne speech on Thursday, and they are desperately trying to find
a way to cling to power or have an election which they profess not to
want," said Farnworth.
"It's an attempt by this government to hold onto power. It's another games playing by this government."
However, Farnworth was less clear on how an NDP-led legislature would
operate in tie votes at the final reading of bills, along with ties at
the committee level.
Convention is that Speakers break ties in the interest of continuing
debate, but, at final reading, will vote against legislation, unless it
is a confidence vote.
"You're just going to have to wait and see how it would work, but it will work," he said.
"We will be using the rules of the house, as they happen right now ... We'll be following precedent."
Tuesday marked the 49th day since British Columbia's election. A non-confidence vote is expected on Thursday.
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:23:33 -0400
Subject: Re Estate of Robin Coughlan Probate Court of New Brunswick, Judicial District of Fredericton Court File No. F/P/57/17
To: aking@coxandpalmer.com, bhclaw@nb.aibn.com, richardroach@rogers.com, peter@peteradamslaw.com
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Adam M. King Associate
File no 50056426-00001
Cox & Palmer
Suite 300, TD Tower
77 Westmorland Street
Fredericton, NB
E3B 6Z3
Phone: (506) 453-9606
Fax: (506) 453-9600
Email: aking@coxandpalmer.com
Peter J., Adams Q.C.
304-259 Brunswick St.
Fredericton, NB
E3B 1G8
Phone: 506-452-0123
Fax: 888-815-4738
Email: peter@peteradamslaw.com
Richard L. Roach
1295 Onondaga St.
Oromocto, NB
E2V 2P8
Phone: 506-357-3385
Email: richardroach@rogers.com
Good Day,
In a sincere effort to introduce myself I managed to speak to two of
you today. The document hereto attached should at least prove to you
that I do know a little bit about the Tax Man and Probate Actions,
Correct?
If you have any questions about my integrity perhaps you should confer
with the General Counsel of the Crown Corp commonly known as the RCMP.
The text within the emails found below should serve to enlighten you
as to who I am just in case you don't already know.
I doubt any of you voted for me when I ran in Fredericton in the
election of the 39th Parliament because of the well known animosity
that exists between the legal profession and I. However Stevey Boy
Murphy of CTV would not lie about my name being on the ballot in
Fredericton over 11 years ago Correct?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1azdNWbF3A
Me,Myself and I
David Amos
Published on Apr 1, 2013
Ask yourselves why one of Steve Murphy's and now Senator Duffy's
corporate bosses opted to have her legaldept take days printing hard
copy of my files after I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament in
2004.
FYI this is not my blog but this is my email. Enjoy your weekend.
----- Original Message -----
From: martine.turcotte@bell.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
Cc: bcecomms@bce.ca ; W-Five@ctv.ca
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: I am curious
Mr. Amos, I confirm that I have received your documentation. There is no
need to send us a hard copy. As you have said yourself, the documentation
is very voluminous and after 3 days, we are still in the process of printing
it. I have asked one of my lawyers to review it in my absence and report
back to me upon my return in the office. We will then provide you with a
reply.
Martine Turcotte
Chief Legal Officer / Chef principal du service juridique
BCE Inc. / Bell Canada
1000 de La Gauchetière ouest, bureau 3700
Montréal (Qc) H3B 4Y7
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Liliana (Legal Services) Longo" Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:28:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Suzelle Bazinet.(613-995-5117) I just earlier
Whereas I was not allowed to speak to you today its best that we
confer in writng anyway (Away from the office/absente du bureau)
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
I will be away from the office June 26 to 28, 2017. In my absence,
Barbara Massey will be acting and she can be reached at (613) 843-6394.
Je serai absente du bureau du 26 au 28 juin 2017. En mon absence,
Barbara Massey sera interimaire et peut être rejointe au (613) 843-6394.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brian Gallant briangallant10@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:29:03 -0700
Subject: Merci / Thank you Re: So says the Mean Mindless New Neo Con
Dominic Cardy so say you all?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
(Français à suivre)
If your email is pertaining to the Government of New Brunswick, please
email me at brian.gallant@gnb.ca
If your matter is urgent, please email Greg Byrne at greg.byrne@gnb.ca
Thank you.
Si votre courriel s'addresse au Gouvernement du Nouveau-Brunswick,
svp m'envoyez un courriel à brian.gallant@gnb.ca
Pour les urgences, veuillez contacter Greg Byrne à greg.byrne@gnb.ca
Merci.
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:28:58 -0400
Subject: So says the Mean Mindless New Neo Con Dominic Cardy so say you all?
To: ATIP-AIPRP@clo-ocol.gc.ca, Ghislaine.Saikaley@clo-ocol.gc.ca,
mylene.theriault@ocol-clo.gc.ca, nelson.kalil@clo-ocol.gc.ca,
hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, Katherine.dEntremont@gnb.ca,
andre@jafaust.com, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, briangallant10@gmail.com, premier anglophonerights@mail.com, info@thejohnrobson.com, ronbarr@rogers.com, kimlian@bellnet.ca, iloveblue.beth@gmail.com, randy.mckeen@gnb.ca, BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com, adam@urquhartmacdonald.com, carl.urquhart@gnb.ca, Davidc.Coon@gmail.com, leader@greenparty.ca, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca, geoff@geoffregan.ca Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, kirk.macdonald@gnb.ca, Hamish.Wright@gnb.ca, jbosnitch@gmail.com, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, Rachel.Blaney@parl.gc.ca, david@lutz.nb.ca, elizabeth.thompson@cbc.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca, info@gg.ca
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Cardy, Dominic (LEG)" Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:02:30 +0000 Subject: RE: RE A legal state known as "functus" For the Public Record I talked to Mylene Theriault in Moncton again and she told me that same thing she did last year To: "Wright, Hamish (LEG)" Hamish.Wright@gnb.ca Cc: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Hamish,
Did you contact Mr. Amos about the elk? How many elk were there? Were the police involved and if so did they wear the antlers you bought them?
DC
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Patrick Bouchard patrick.bouchard@rcmp-grc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:44:18 -0400 Subject: Re: Fwd: RE A legal state known as "functus" Perhaps you, Governor General Johnston and Commissioner Paulson and many members of the RCMP should review pages 1 and 4 one document ASAP EH Minister Goodale? (AOL) To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
I will be AOL until July 6th 2017.
I will not have access to Groupwise.
I may be reached at my personal e-mail thebouchards15@gmail.com depending on data coverage.
>>> David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com 06/22/17 16:43 >>>
> http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/en/contact/index > > Atlantic Region > Commissioner’s Representative:Mylène Thériault > Heritage Court > 95 Foundry Street, Suite 410 > Moncton, New Brunswick E1C 5H7 > Telephone: 506-851-7047 > > BTW I called this dude too and left a voicemail telling him to dig > into his records and find what he should to give to his temporary boss > ASAP > > Access to Information and Privacy Coordinator > Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages > 30 Victoria Street, 6th Floor > Gatineau, Quebec K1A 0T8 > Telephone: 819-420-4718 > E-mail: ATIP-AIPRP@clo-ocol.gc.ca > > Clearly I have very good reasons to make these calls N'esy Pas Mr > Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger and Mr Speaker Geof Regan??? > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: NATALIA OLIVEIRA JOHNSTON natalia.johnston@cbc.ca > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 08:46:30 -0700 > Subject: Out of office Re: RE The CBC report of Peter Hyslop versus NB > Power and a Perfect Storm in Fredericton tomorrow. Trust that all the > lawyers within McInnes Cooper know that nobody speaks for me unless I > say OK > To: motomaniac333@gmail.com > > Please note that I am in meetings all day June 14 and 15 and will have > limited access to my emails. > > If your matter is urgent, please contact the Montreal reception line > at 514-597-4094. > > -- > *Natalia Johnston* > Legal Assistant > to Dustin Milligan, Katarina Germani and Azim Remani > > Tel. (416) 205-2306 > Fax (416) 205-2723 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:16:38 -0400 > Subject: Attn Laura Lee Langley, Karen Hudson and Joanne Munro I just > called all three of your offices to inform you of my next lawsuit > against Nova Scotia > To: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca, Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca, > Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca > Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com > > https://novascotia.ca/exec_council/NSDeputies.html > > https://novascotia.ca/exec_council/LLLangley-bio.html > > Laura Lee Langley > 1700 Granville Street, 5th Floor > One Government Place > Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1X5 > Phone: (902) 424-8940 > Fax: (902) 424-0667 > Email: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca > > https://novascotia.ca/just/deputy.asp > > Karen Hudson Q.C. > 1690 Hollis Street, 7th Floor > Joseph Howe Building > Halifax, NS B3J 3J9 > Phone: (902) 424-4223 > Fax: (902) 424-0510 > Email: Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca > > https://novascotia.ca/sns/ceo.asp > > Joanne Munro: > 1505 Barrington Street, 14-South > Maritime Centre > Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 3K5 > Phone: (902) 424-4089 > Fax: (902) 424-5510 > Email: Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca > > If you don't wish to speak to me before I begin litigation then I > suspect the Integrity Commissioner New Brunswick or the Federal Crown > Counsel can explain the email below and the documents hereto attached > to you and your Premier etc. > > Veritas Vincit > David Raymond Amos > 902 800 0369 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400 > Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C., > To: coi@gnb.ca > Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com > > Good Day Sir > > After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed > to speak to one of your staff for the first time > > Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who > answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt > at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker > Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document. > > These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I > suggested that you study closely. > > This is the docket in Federal Court > > http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T > > These are digital recordings of the last three hearings > > Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug > > January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015 > > April 3rd, 2017 > > https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing > > > This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal > > http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All > > > The only hearing thus far > > May 24th, 2017 > > https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown > > > This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity > > Date: 20151223 > > Docket: T-1557-15 > > Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015 > > PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell > > BETWEEN: > > DAVID RAYMOND AMOS > > Plaintiff > > and > > HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN > > Defendant > > ORDER > > (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on > December 14, 2015) > > The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to > the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November > 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim > in its entirety. > > At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a > letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then > capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian > Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg, > (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter > he stated: > > As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the > work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you. > You are your brother’s keeper. > > Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former > colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to > expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of > people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses > or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to > me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime > Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former > Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of > Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore; > former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former > Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff > Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court > of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired > Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted > Police. > > In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my > personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many > potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am > of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I > hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in > Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al, > [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding > allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has > requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so. > > > AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of > the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There > is no order as to costs. > > “B. Richard Bell” > Judge > > > Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment > already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent > to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006. > > I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court > Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the > bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my > lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada? > > "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most > > http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html > > 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war > in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to > allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over > five years after he began his bragging: > > January 13, 2015 > This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate > > December 8, 2014 > Why Canada Stood Tall! > > Friday, October 3, 2014 > Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And > Stupid Justin Trudeau? > > Vertias Vincit > David Raymond Amos > 902 800 0369 > > P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of > the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have > had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical. > Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me. > > Subject: > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400 > From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca > To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com > > January 30, 2007 > > WITHOUT PREJUDICE > > Mr. David Amos > > Dear Mr. Amos: > > This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29, > 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP. > > Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have > taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve > Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton. > > Sincerely, > > Honourable Michael B. Murphy > Minister of Health > > CM/cb > > > Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote: > > Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500 > From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca > To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca, > nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net, > motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com > CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca, > Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, > "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca > Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has > forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not > > Dear Mr. Amos, > > Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off > over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I > was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns. > > As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position > is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process > testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the > Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these > services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this > instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done. > > As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false > imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear > that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada > the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment > and policing in Petitcodiac, NB. > > It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on > December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors. > > Sincerely, > > Warren McBeath, Cpl. > GRC Caledonia RCMP > Traffic Services NCO > Ph: (506) 387-2222 > Fax: (506) 387-4622 > E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca > > > > Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C., > Office of the Integrity Commissioner > Edgecombe House, 736 King Street > Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1 > tel.: 506-457-7890 > fax: 506-444-5224 > e-mail:coi@gnb.ca > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: Póstur FOR postur@for.is > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000 > Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable > parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have > Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and > that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends > to be.. > To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com > > Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received > > Kveðja / Best regards > Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: Póstur IRR postur@irr.is > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000 > Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable > parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have > Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and > that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends > to be.. > To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com > > > Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received. > > Kveðja / Best regards > Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior >
Gmail
blocked this email to several smiling bastards. In response I am gonna
changemy style a little bit. I will create a blog about RCMP and guns and putting
within it a little proof that my email was sent.
Once the
blog is published, I will insert the blog and the whole email warts and all within
a pdf fie and publish that on the web within a Scribd account of mine. Then I have
some fun Tweeting the Hell out about it kinda like Dominic Leblanc's strange
cousin the very mindless French blogging bastard Chucky Leblanc and his hero
Trump do on a daily basis N'esy Pas Mr. Prime Minister Trudeau "The
Younger"?
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:45:24 -0400 Subject: YO Jean-Yves Duclos Re My Old Age pension etc Well May 24th came and went and I just called you (819 654 5546) and your Deputy Ms Levonian (819 9535603) about my right to to sue you and your minions in Federal Court To: jeanyves.duclos@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, Jean-Yves.Duclos@parl.gc.ca, Jean-Yves.Duclos.c1@parl.gc.ca, judy.foote.a1@parl.gc.ca, media@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, Louise.Levonian@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, pierre.poilievre.a1@parl.gc.ca, Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca, Diane.Lebouthillier@parl.gc.ca, gopublic@cbc.ca, investigations@cbc.ca, steven.blaney.a1@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, premier@gnb.ca, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca, erin.otoole@parl.gc.ca, Kellie.Leitch@parl.gc.ca, PABMINMAILG@cra-arc.gc.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, Geoff Regan geoff@geoffregan.ca, PREMIER@gov.ns.ca, victor.boudreau@gnb.ca, Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca, andre@jafaust.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, harvey.cashore@cbc.ca, Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Here what was said in Federal Court recently May 24th
After you read Minister Diane Lebouthillier's email that I received the same day I was in Federal Court this week enjoy a little Deja Vu from exactly one year ago. Need I say that it did not escape my notice that your Deputy Minister Louise Levonian bragged that she worked with the crooks in KPMG?
---------- Original message ---------- From: "Min.Mail / Courrier.Min (CRA/ARC)" PABMINMAILG@cra-arc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 13:10:52 +0000 Subject: Your various correspondence about abusive tax schemes - 2017-02631 To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Mr. David Raymond Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Dear Mr. Amos:
Thank you for your various correspondence about abusive tax schemes, and for your understanding regarding the delay of this response.
This is an opportunity for me to address your concerns about the way the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) deals with aggressive tax planning, tax avoidance, and tax evasion by targeting individuals and groups that promote schemes intended to avoid payment of tax. It is also an opportunity for me to present the Government of Canada’s main strategies for ensuring fairness for all taxpayers.
The CRA’s mission is to preserve the integrity of Canada’s tax system, and it is taking concrete and effective action to deal with abusive tax schemes. Through federal budget funding in 2016 and 2017, the government has committed close to $1 billion in cracking down on tax evasion and combatting tax avoidance at home and through the use of offshore transactions. This additional funding is expected to generate federal revenues of $2.6 billion over five years for Budget 2016, and $2.5 billion over five years for Budget 2017.
More precisely, the CRA is cracking down on tax cheats by hiring more auditors, maintaining its underground economy specialist teams, increasing coverage of aggressive goods and service tax/harmonized sales tax planning, increasing coverage of multinational corporations and wealthy individuals, and taking targeted actions aimed at promoters of abusive tax schemes.
On the offshore front, the CRA continues to develop tools to improve its focus on high‑risk taxpayers. It is also considering changes to its Voluntary Disclosures Program following the first set of program recommendations received from an independent Offshore Compliance Advisory Committee. In addition, the CRA is leading international projects to address the base erosion and profit shifting initiative of the G20 and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, and is collaborating with treaty partners to address the Panama Papers leaks.
These actions are evidence of the government’s commitment to protecting tax fairness. The CRA has strengthened its intelligence and technical capacities for the early detection of abusive tax arrangements and deterrence of those who participate in them. To ensure compliance, it has increased the number of actions aimed at promoters who use illegal schemes. These measures include increased audits of such promoters, improved information gathering, criminal investigations where warranted, and better communication with taxpayers.
To deter potential taxpayer involvement in these schemes, the CRA is increasing notifications and warnings through its communications products. It also seeks partnerships with tax preparers, accountants, and community groups so that they can become informed observers who can educate their clients.
The CRA will assess penalties against promoters and other representatives who make false statements involving illegal tax schemes. The promotion of tax schemes to defraud the government can lead to criminal investigations, fingerprinting, criminal prosecution, court fines, and jail time.
Between April 1, 2011, and March 31, 2016, the CRA’s criminal investigations resulted in the conviction of 42 Canadian taxpayers for tax evasion with links to money and assets held offshore. In total, the $34 million in evaded taxes resulted in court fines of $12 million and 734 months of jail time.
When deciding to pursue compliance actions through the courts, the CRA consults the Department of Justice Canada to choose an appropriate solution. Complex tax-related litigation is costly and time consuming, and the outcome may be unsuccessful. All options to recover amounts owed are considered.
More specifically, in relation to the KPMG Isle of Man tax avoidance scheme, publicly available court records show that it is through the CRA’s efforts that the scheme was discovered. The CRA identified many of the participants and continues to actively pursue the matter. The CRA has also identified at least 10 additional tax structures on the Isle of Man, and is auditing taxpayers in relation to these structures.
To ensure tax fairness, the CRA commissioned an independent review in March 2016 to determine if it had acted appropriately concerning KPMG and its clients. In her review, Ms. Kimberley Brooks, Associate Professor and former Dean of the Schulich School of Law at Dalhousie University, examined the CRA’s operational processes and decisions in relation to the KPMG offshore tax structure and its efforts to obtain the names of all taxpayers participating in the scheme. Following this review, the report, released on May 5, 2016, concluded that the CRA had acted appropriately in its management of the KPMG Isle of Man file. The report found that the series of compliance measures the CRA took were in accordance with its policies and procedures. It was concluded that the procedural actions taken on the KPMG file were appropriate given the facts of this particular case and were consistent with the treatment of taxpayers in similar situations. The report concluded that actions by CRA employees were in accordance with the CRA’s Code of Integrity and Professional Conduct. There was no evidence of inappropriate interaction between KPMG and the CRA employees involved in the case.
Under the CRA’s Code of Integrity and Professional Conduct, all CRA employees are responsible for real, apparent, or potential conflicts of interests between their current duties and any subsequent employment outside of the CRA or the Public Service of Canada. Consequences and corrective measures play an important role in protecting the CRA’s integrity.
The CRA takes misconduct very seriously. The consequences of misconduct depend on the gravity of the incident and its repercussions on trust both within and outside of the CRA. Misconduct can result in disciplinary measures up to dismissal.
All forms of tax evasion are illegal. The CRA manages the Informant Leads Program, which handles leads received from the public regarding cases of tax evasion across the country. This program, which coordinates all the leads the CRA receives from informants, determines whether there has been any non-compliance with tax law and ensures that the information is examined and conveyed, if applicable, so that compliance measures are taken. This program does not offer any reward for tips received.
The new Offshore Tax Informant Program (OTIP) has also been put in place. The OTIP offers financial compensation to individuals who provide information related to major cases of offshore tax evasion that lead to the collection of tax owing. As of December 31, 2016, the OTIP had received 963 calls and 407 written submissions from possible informants. Over 218 taxpayers are currently under audit based on information the CRA received through the OTIP.
With a focus on the highest-risk sectors nationally and internationally and an increased ability to gather information, the CRA has the means to target taxpayers who try to hide their income. For example, since January 2015, the CRA has been collecting information on all international electronic funds transfers (EFTs) of $10,000 or more ending or originating in Canada. It is also adopting a proactive approach by focusing each year on four jurisdictions that raise suspicion. For the Isle of Man, the CRA audited 3,000 EFTs totalling $860 million over 12 months and involving approximately 800 taxpayers. Based on these audits, the CRA communicated with approximately 350 individuals and 400 corporations and performed 60 audits.
In January 2017, I reaffirmed Canada’s important role as a leader for tax authorities around the world in detecting the structures used for aggressive tax planning and tax evasion. This is why Canada works daily with the Joint International Tax Shelter Information Centre (JITSIC), a network of tax administrations in over 35 countries. The CRA participates in two expert groups within the JITSIC and leads the working group on intermediaries and proponents. This ongoing collaboration is a key component of the CRA’s work to develop strong relationships with the international community, which will help it refine the world-class tax system that benefits all Canadians.
The CRA is increasing its efforts and is seeing early signs of success. Last year, the CRA recovered just under $13 billion as a result of its audit activities on the domestic and offshore fronts. Two-thirds of these recoveries are the result of its audit efforts relating to large businesses and multinational companies.
But there is still much to do, and additional improvements and investments are underway.
Tax cheats are having a harder and harder time hiding. Taxpayers who choose to promote or participate in malicious and illegal tax strategies must face the consequences of their actions. Canadians expect nothing less. I invite you to read my most recent statement on this matter at canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/news/2017/03/ statement_from_thehonourabledianelebouthillierministerofnational.
Thank you for taking the time to write. I hope the information I have provided is helpful.
Sincerely,
The Honourable Diane Lebouthillier Minister of National Revenue
Effective May 16, 2016, Louise Levonian became the Deputy Minister of Employment and Social Development.
Prior to her appointment as DM, Ms. Levonian served as the Senior Associate Deputy Minister of Employment and Social Development and Chief Operating Officer for Service Canada for close to two years.
Prior to joining Employment and Social Development Canada, Ms. Levonian served as Associate Deputy Minister for the Department of Finance. She worked at the Department of Finance from September 1995 to July 2014 with two intervals outside the Department: the most recent at the Privy Council Office of the Government of Canada as the Director of Operations (Planning) in the Priorities and Planning Secretariat; and one working for KPMG – Barents Group as a tax consultant. At the Department of Finance, Ms. Levonian also held several positions of increasing seniority including as Departmental Secretary in the Deputy Minister's Office, Director of Business Income Tax, General Director (Analysis), and Senior Assistant Deputy Minister Tax Policy Branch. Ms. Levonian also held positions at the Treasury Board Secretariat and the Department of Transportation prior to joining the Department of Finance.
Ms. Levonian graduated from Queen's University in 1990 with a Master of Arts in Economics, majoring in Public Finance and Industrial Organization. She was granted a Queen's University Graduate Scholarship in 1989–90. Ms. Levonian also obtained a Bachelor of Arts in Economics with High Honours at Carleton University and was on the Deans' Honour List in 1988–89. She is currently a member of the Board of Governors at Carleton University.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:15:10 -0400 Subject: YO Jean-Yves Duclos I just called about my right to file my tax return electonically byway of Service Canada Need I say that Jean Yves.Duclos minion named Shiela in Fredericton and Diane.Lebouthillier's minion named Tom ID # 2441ATL really pissed me off? To: jeanyves.duclos@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, Jean-Yves.Duclos@parl.gc.ca, Jean-Yves.Duclos.c1@parl.gc.ca, judy.foote.a1@parl.gc.ca, media@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, Louise.Levonian@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, pierre.poilievre.a1@parl.gc.ca, Andrew.Treusch@cra-arc.gc.ca, Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca, Diane.Lebouthillier@parl.gc.ca, roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,gopublic@cbc.ca, investigations@cbc.ca, steven.blaney.a1@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, premier@gnb.ca, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, nmoore@bellmedia.ca, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, media@tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca, minister@pwgsc.gc.ca, john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, jake.stewart@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, Katherine.dEntremont@gnb.ca
Q&A: Jean-Yves Duclos, former head of the economics department at Laval University and now minister of families, children and social development
Stephen Gordon
October 24, 2015
Jean-Yves Duclos was the director of the economics department at Laval University and president-elect of the Canadian Economics Association before joining the Liberal Party of Canada as a candidate in the federal election. On Oct. 19 he was one of only two Liberal MPs elected in Quebec City; on Nov. 4, he was named the minister of families, children and social development. Laval University economist and Maclean’s contributor Stephen Gordon spoke with Duclos about what drew him into politics, his electoral victory and the Liberals’ economic platform.
Stephen Gordon Pavillon J.-A.-DeSève 1025, avenue des Sciences-Humaines Local 2280 Université Laval
Téléphone au bureau : (418) 656-2131 poste 2416 Courrier électronique : Stephen.Gordon@ecn.ulaval.ca
Stephen Gordon is an economics professor at l'Université Laval in Quebec City. He started the blog Worthwhile Canadian Initiative in 2005 and has been blogging about economics ever since.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:46:15 -0700 Subject: Re My right to collect my Canada Pension benefits, my right to no false imprisonment, freedom from unwarranted police harassment and my very Illegal Banishment from Parliamenty Properties since 2004 Perhaps Ministers Glover and Poilievre should talk to underlings ASAp To: pierre.poilievre.a1@parl.gc.ca, shelly.glover.a1@parl.gc.ca, janet.campbell@pch.gc.ca, fraser.patricia@psic-ispc.gc.ca, pierre.poilievre@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, steven.blaney.a1@parl.gc.ca, media@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca, Laurent.Marcoux@pco-bcp.gc.ca, Louise.Levonian@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, danny.copp@fredericton.ca, roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, media@pch.gc.ca, sean@canadalandshow.com, Newsroom@globeandmail.com, macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com
The one pdf file hereto attached speaks volumes in only ONE Official Language
As you all know I am still a Canadian citizen who has every right to file many lawsuits to seek relief and compensation. Even though I have no SIN # or fixed address the RCMP and CSIS always know where to find me in order to harass me and the PMO and the PCO offices etc have had many of my documents for many many years Correct? \ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 10:12:45 -0700 Subject: Attn Jeffrey Brennan I just called and spoke to you as I said I have had enough harassment by the RCMP and their cohorts If the Canadian government wishes to settle with me outside of court now would be the time To: Jeffrey.Brennan@pmo.gc.ca Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Info info@ndp.ca Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:55:22 +0000 Subject: Automatic reply: Re Worldwide Public Corruption BTW Methinks this is the real reason Johnny "Never Been Good" Baird suddenly bailed on his boss Harper To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
*Le français suit*
Hello,
Thank you for sending your inquiry to Canada’s NDP.
We will reply to your email as soon as possible. If you have previously left a voicemail message – please be assured your call will be addressed. We are working to respond to each message as quickly as possible.
Thank you for your patience during this busy – but exciting – time.
Have a nice day,
Canada’s New Democrats _______________________________________________________
Nous répondrons à votre courrier électronique dès que possible. Si vous nous avez déjà laissé un message vocal, s'il vous plaît soyez assuré que nous vous retournerons l’appel. Nous travaillons afin de pouvoir répondre à chaque message vocal et courrier électronique aussi vite que possible.
Nous vous remercions de faire preuve de patience au cours de cette période occupée mais fort passionnante.
Bonne journée,
Le NPD du Canada _______________________________________________________
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 09:54:33 -0700 Subject: Re Worldwide Public Corruption BTW Methinks this is the real reason Johnny "Never Been Good" Baird suddenly bailed on his boss Harper To: Daniel.Nadeau@priv.gc.ca, fraser.patricia@psic-ispc.gc.ca, ian.fine@chrc-ccdp.ca, Craig.MacMillan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, mdoucet@pco-bcp.gc.ca, sue.greaves@cse-cst.gc.ca, bobby.matheson@ps-sp.gc.ca, Gregory.Gauthier@fin.gc.ca, louis-philippe.rouillard@forces.gc.ca, marie-josee.thivierge@justice.gc.ca, Barbara.Carswell@international.gc.ca, james.gallo@ag.ny.gov, oig@sec.gov, dean.buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, joe.oliver.a1@parl.gc.ca, NYAG.Pressoffice@ag.ny.gov, ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk, jesse@jessebrown.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, Terry.Milewski@cbc.ca, paul.dewar.a1@parl.gc.ca, coleen@coleenrowley.com, Drew.Barnes@assembly.ab.ca, premier@gov.ab.ca, oig@ftc.gov, bairdj@parl.gc.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, premier@gnb.ca, Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, George.Soros@opensocietyfoundations.org, george.osborne.mp@parliament.uk, Karine Fortin info@ndp.ca Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Lampron.Raynald@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Joe Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca, eric.schneiderman@ag.ny.gov, public.integrity@ag.ny.gov, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, thomas.mulcair.a1@parl.gc.ca, Thomas.Lawson@forces.gc.ca, dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/ve/snrs1-eng.asp
To put it simply too many people around the world read this blog recently and started checking my work. Nobody dares to deny that the PCO did acknowledge the email in 2013 and the various sitemeters tell a very interesting tale to say the least Correct Daniel Nadeau?.
That NOBODY should forget your boss" Mario Dion's last email to me before he quit EH Raynald Lampron and Joe Friday?
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mario Dion Dion.Mario@psic-ispc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 06:05:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Fwd: Yo Mario Dion it been over a year since your last response and 7 years since I talked to the evil lawyer Manon Hardy so tell me another one will ya? To: motomaniac333@gmail.com, manon.hardy@chrc-ccdp.ca, Clemet1@parl.gc.ca, Errington.john@forces.gc.ca, Christine.Salt@forces.gc.ca, Mackap@parl.gc.ca, bourdap@halifax.ca, Helen.Banulescu@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca, Lachapelle.Edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca, peter.dauphinee@gmail.com, upriverwatch@gmail.com, donald.bowser@smu.ca, kedgwickriver@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, COCMoncton@gmail.com, Davidc.Coon@gmail.com, stephen.horsman@nbliberal.ca, forest@conservationcouncil.ca, water@ccnbaction.ca Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Lampron.Raynald@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Joe Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca
I will ask my staff to verify your status and someone will get back to you. I would appreciate it however if you could be a little bit more polite when drafting emails adressed to me.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Amos Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 03:42:28 -0700 Subject: It appears that I must thank Ray Novak's computer for showing a little INTEGRITY I have not had a response from Harper's office since election time in 2005 To: Jeffrey.Brennan@pmo.gc.ca, ed.fast@parl.gc.ca, ed@edfast.ca, rick.roth@international.gc.ca, gary.dyck@edmonton.ca, Anne.Jarman@edmonton.ca, don.marshall@edmonton.ca, don.iveson@edmonton.ca, scott.mckeen@edmonton.ca, ben.henderson@edmonton.ca, rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca, Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, premier@gov.ab.ca, David.Swann@assembly.ab.ca, Laurie.Blakeman@assembly.ab.ca, michael.oshry@edmonton.ca, g.smith@aupe.org, renouf@renouflaw.com, campaign campaign@randyboissonnault.ca, graham.hicks@hicksbiz.com, geoff.crowe@edmontonpolice.ca, andre@jafaust.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, premier@gov.bc.ca, premier@gnb.ca, premier@leg.gov.mb.ca, PREMIER@gov.ns.ca, Karine Fortin info@ndp.ca, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca, deepak.chopra@canadapost.ca, bonnie.boretsky@canadapost.ca, jag.sumra@canadapost.ca,dlemelin@cupw-sttp.org, NAT-PRES@psac-afpc.com, NATEXEC-VP@psac-afpc.com, meranis@psac-afpc.com, NH01FGIMA@mail.house.gov Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, victor.boudreau@gnb.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, bairdj@parl.gc.ca, Alan.Kessel@lnternational.gc.ca, Rob.Merrifield@gov.ab.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca, winston.fogarty@lnternational.gc.ca, Ray.Novak@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, marjory.l.eBreton@sen.parl.gc.ca, Drew.Barnes@assembly.ab.ca, kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, sunrayzulu@shaw.ca, joshua.skurnik@hotmail.com, lgunter@shaw.ca
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Novak, Ray" Ray.Novak@pmo-cpm.gc.ca Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 05:34:45 -0500 Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Methinks Mayor Iveson should have a long talk with Ben Henderson His grumpy wifey Laurie.Blakeman, Jimmy Prentice, Stevey Boy Harper, a few lawyers and cops should talk about what they should have done about YOU long ago EH Mr Baconfat? To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
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On 2/3/15, David Amos wrote: > Oh my my. Methinks my recent talks with DFAIT may have upset Gordy > Baby Campbell and his boss Johnny " Never Been Good" Baird N'esy Pas > Mr Harper? > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-baird-to-resign-as-foreign-affairs-minister-sources-say-1.2940699 > > Lots of gossip in the SUN about what everybody and his dog knew anyway > EH Ray Novak? > > http://www.torontosun.com/2015/02/02/john-baird-to-quit-as-mp-report > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/laurie-blakeman-ponders-future-after-left-leaning-merger-toppled-1.2940528 > > http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/Edmonton/ID/2651080055/ > > Anyway Jimmy Prentice, the Libranos, the AUPE, the Alberta Party, the > Wild Rose Party et al can bet that I have talked to a A LOT of > Albertans not just “Martha and Henry” since I had the spit and chew > with King Rotten Ralphy Klein in the summer of 2005. Seems that they > wanted to check the sitemeter. Clearly Mr Baconfat's many friends were > digging into my old half dead blog from 2006 instead of finding what > his NDP pals within the QSLS in Fat Fred City had posted years later. > Methinks they already knew just like the CANADIAN AND YANKEE FEDS do > what say you FRANKY BOY GUINTA? After I did send your old pal Charlie > Bass and Alberta dudes Hard Copy of a huge pile of documents and a CD > long ago. CANADA POST JUST LIKE THE US POSTAL SERVICE HAS FAILED ME > MANY TIMES BUT AT LEAST THEY DID THEIR JOB IN AUGUST OF 2005 WITH > 'KING RAPHY" CORRECT JIMMY BABY PRENTICE and JONNY BOY DENIS??? If not > scroll down and then check the records within the Premier's Office > email account. Nobody can'r say that Eddy Boy Stelmach the mindless > 13th Premier of Alberta didn't answer me while the economy was taking > a nosedive in 2009 and I made certian that his very greedy Minister of > Justice and Attorney General Ally Baby Redford knew it. Didn't Reford > article for you Jimmy? Furthermore I bet Christie Clark didn't know > that both Redford and Baird once worked for for the PC/Librano Jean > Charest until CBC informed us all. > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-s-pipeline-dilemma-can-t-reject-can-t-ram-through-1.1186772 > > > Anyway here is one of the ways I upset DFAIT last week after talking > to some interesting Yankees. > > http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html > > QSLS Politics > By Location Visit Detail > Visit 34,773 > Domain Name gc.ca ? (Canada) > IP Address 198.103.104.# (Dept. Foreign Affairs and International Trade) > ISP GTIS > Location Continent : North America > Country : Canada (Facts) > State/Region : Ontario > City : Ottawa > Lat/Long : 45.4167, -75.7 (Map) > Language English (U.S.) en-us > Operating System Macintosh WinNT > Browser Safari 1.3 > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like > Gecko) Chrome/35.0.1916.153 Safari/537.36 > Javascript version 1.5 > Monitor Resolution : 1280 x 1024 > Color Depth : 24 bits > Time of Visit Jan 29 2015 9:44:08 pm > Last Page View Jan 29 2015 9:45:21 pm > Visit Length 1 minute 13 seconds > Page Views 2 > Referring URL https://www.google.ca/ > Visit Entry Page http://qslspolitics....liberal-premier.html > Visit Exit Page http://qslspolitics....liberal-premier.html > Out Click > Time Zone UTC-5:00 > Visitor's Time Jan 29 2015 3:44:08 pm > Visit Number 34,773 > > QSLS Politics > By Location Visit Detail > Visit 34,706 > Domain Name house.gov ? (U.S. Government) > IP Address 143.231.249.# (Information Systems, U.S. House of > Representatives) > ISP Information Systems, U.S. House of Representatives > Location Continent : North America > Country : United States (Facts) > State : District of Columbia > City : Washington > Lat/Long : 38.9097, -77.0231 (Map) > Language English (U.S.) en-us > Operating System Macintosh WinNT > Browser Safari 1.3 > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like > Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.99 Safari/537.36 > Javascript version 1.5 > Monitor Resolution : 1680 x 1050 > Color Depth : 24 bits > Time of Visit Jan 16 2015 9:23:46 pm > Last Page View Jan 16 2015 9:24:05 pm > Visit Length 19 seconds > Page Views 2 > Referring URL https://www.google.com/ > Visit Entry Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html > Visit Exit Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html > Out Click > Time Zone UTC-5:00 > Visitor's Time Jan 16 2015 3:23:46 pm > Visit Number 34,706 > > > Just Dave > By Location Visit Detail > Visit 21,954 > Domain Name gov.ab.ca ? (Canada) > IP Address 199.213.91.# (Alberta PWSS, Telecommunications Division) > ISP Alberta PWSS, Telecommunications Division > Location Continent : North America > Country : Canada (Facts) > State/Region : Alberta > City : Edmonton > Lat/Long : 53.55, -113.5 (Map) > Language English (U.S.) en-us > Operating System Macintosh WinNT > Browser Safari 1.3 > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like > Gecko) Chrome/40.0.2214.93 Safari/537.36 > Javascript version 1.5 > Monitor Resolution : 1280 x 1024 > Color Depth : 24 bits > Time of Visit Feb 2 2015 3:26:17 pm > Last Page View Feb 2 2015 3:27:43 pm > Visit Length 1 minute 26 seconds > Page Views 2 > Referring URL https://www.google.ca/ > Visit Entry Page http://davidamos.blo...06/04/just-dave.html > Visit Exit Page http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/ > Out Click Site Meter > http://www.sitemeter...p?site=s29motomaniac > Time Zone UTC-7:00 > Visitor's Time Feb 2 2015 12:26:17 pm > Visit Number 21,954 > > > Just Dave > By Location Visit Detail > Visit 21,956 > Domain Name (Unknown) > IP Address 162.106.6.# (The City of Edmonton) > ISP The City of Edmonton > Location Continent : North America > Country : Canada (Facts) > State/Region : Alberta > City : Edmonton > Lat/Long : 53.55, -113.5 (Map) > Language English (U.S.) en-us > Operating System Macintosh WinNT > Browser Safari 1.3 > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like > Gecko) Chrome/40.0.2214.93 Safari/537.36 > Javascript version 1.5 > Monitor Resolution : 1920 x 1080 > Color Depth : 24 bits > Time of Visit Feb 2 2015 6:37:10 pm > Last Page View Feb 2 2015 6:37:10 pm > Visit Length 0 seconds > Page Views 1 > Referring URL https://www.google.ca/ > Visit Entry Page http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/ > Visit Exit Page http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/ > Out Click > Time Zone UTC-7:00 > Visitor's Time Feb 2 2015 3:37:10 pm > Visit Number 21,956 > > Just Dave > By Location Visit Detail > Visit 21,952 > Domain Name (Unknown) > IP Address 162.106.6.# (The City of Edmonton) > ISP The City of Edmonton > Location Continent : North America > Country : Canada (Facts) > State/Region : Alberta > City : Edmonton > Lat/Long : 53.55, -113.5 (Map) > Language English (U.S.) en-us > Operating System Macintosh WinNT > Browser Safari 1.3 > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like > Gecko) Chrome/40.0.2214.93 Safari/537.36 > Javascript version 1.5 > Monitor Resolution : 1920 x 1080 > Color Depth : 24 bits > Time of Visit Feb 2 2015 2:46:20 pm > Last Page View Feb 2 2015 2:46:20 pm > Visit Length 0 seconds > Page Views 1 > Referring URL https://www.google.ca/ > Visit Entry Page http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/ > Visit Exit Page http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/ > Out Click > Time Zone UTC-7:00 > Visitor's Time Feb 2 2015 11:46:20 am > Visit Number 21,952 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:41:02 -0300 > Subject: Re: RE Victor Boudreau and the CBC INFOAM Don't ya think The > Minister should do a little homework before he tries to explain the US > Treasury Dept? > To: Premier@gov.ab.ca, mackay.p@parl.gc.ca, > leader@greenparty.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca, > danny.copp@fredericton.ca, duffy@ctv.ca, richard.dearden@gowlings.com, > rick.miles@gnb.ca, victor.boudreau2@gnb.ca, infoam@fredericton.cbc.ca, > danf@danf.net, info@gg.ca, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca, spinks08@hotmail.com, > Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, "layton. j" > Cc: premier@gov.nl.ca, debra@naomiklein.org, > andrew.krystal@atlanticradio.rogers.com, georgebarron@ndp.ca, > gladgardens@eastlink.ca, mahon.austen@ns.sympatico.ca, > webo@xplornet.com, alltrue@nl.rogers.com, Governor.Rell@ct.gov, > john.conyers@mail.house.gov, premier@gov.ns.ca, premier@gov.sk.ca, > premier@leg.gov.mb.ca, savage.m@parl.gc.ca, info@norfolksheriffma.org, > Eyking.M@parl.gc.ca, injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, > calgary.glenmore@assembly.ab.ca > > You must be joking CORRECT? Well three years ago I talked to Rotten Ralphie > your former boss just before I ran for a seat in the 39th Parliament and not > long after he gave a speech down here in the Maritimes and he was certainly > not supporting your local hero Stevey Boy Harper. Lets just say Rotten > Ralphie and I had quite a little spit and chew and when I asked him what > happened to the material I sent to Ron Stevens byway of registered US Mail > in August of 2005 Rotten Ralphie invited me to sue Alberta and I laughed at > the old fool and promised that I would someday. > > Now I see that Ron Stevens is no longer the AG but the Deputy Premier and > Minister of International and Intergovernmental Relations. Ain't that > special? > > http://www.assembly.ab.ca/net/index.aspx?p=mla_bio&rnumber=12 > > Before you attempt to call me a lair perhaps you should talk the > Assistant Attorney General of Alberta who called me from his home number > when I was at Werner Bock's last year EH? > > All that said your latest Premier should be at least wise enough to never > trust a lawyer. He can review my letter to Stevens etc on Danny Boy's blog > and many other places on the Internet. Perhaps he and and I should talk > ASAP maybe he is smarter than Rotten Ralphie EH? > > You will find this email and the text of the letter from long ago posted > here. > > http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/search?q=David+amos > > You will find a true and printable copy of the aforementioned letter here > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/6342481/Maritime-Attorney-Generals > > Veritas Vincit > David Raymond Amos > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: PREM Premier Premier@gov.ab.ca > Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:41:50 -0600 > Subject: RE: RE Victor Boudreau and the CBC INFOAM Don't ya think The > Minister should do a little homework before he tries to explain the US > Treasury Dept? > To: David Amos > > Please be advised that the Premier's e-mail address is intended to > provide Albertans with a venue to share their comments on various > government issues. Therefore, it is requested that the Premier's e-mail > address be removed from your mailing list at the earliest opportunity. > > Thank you in advance for your cooperation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:49 PM > To: mackay.p@parl.gc.ca; leader@greenparty.ca; oldmaison@yahoo.com; > lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca; Dan Fitzgerald; danny.copp@fredericton.ca; > duffy@ctv.ca; layton. j; Richard Harris; richard.dearden@gowlings.com; > rick.miles@gnb.ca; victor.boudreau2@gnb.ca; infoam@fredericton.cbc.ca; > info@gg.ca; info@pco-bcp.gc.ca; spinks08@hotmail.com; > Harper.S@parl.gc.ca > Cc: premier@gov.nl.ca; debra@naomiklein.org; > andrew.krystal@atlanticradio.rogers.com; georgebarron@ndp.ca; > gladgardens@eastlink.ca; mahon.austen@ns.sympatico.ca; > webo@xplornet.com; alltrue@nl.rogers.com; Governor.Rell@ct.gov; > john.conyers@mail.house.gov; premier@gov.ns.ca; premier@gov.sk.ca; > premier@leg.gov.mb.ca; PREM Premier; savage.m@parl.gc.ca; > info@norfolksheriffma.org; Eyking.M@parl.gc.ca > Subject: Re: RE Victor Boudreau and the CBC INFOAM Don't ya think The > Minister should do a little homework before he tries to explain the US > Treasury Dept? > > Here are some more recordings that you may find interesting as well > Danny Boy > > http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22David%20Raymond%20Amos%22 > > http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/09/david-amos-letter-to-canadian.h > tml > > Veritas Vincit > David Raymond Amos > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Amos david.raym mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com > ond.amos@gmail.com > Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48 PM > Subject: RE Victor Boudreau and the CBC INFOAM Don't ya think The > Minister should do a little homework before he tries to explain the US > Treasury Dept? > To: mackay.p@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, > lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca, Dan Fitzgerald danf@danf.net, > danny.copp@fredericton.ca>, duffy@ctv.ca, Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, > injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, richard.dearden@gowlings.com, > rick.miles@gnb.ca, victor.boudreau2@gnb.ca, infoam@fredericton.cbc.ca, > info@gg.ca, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca,spinks08@hotmail.com, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca > Cc: premier@gov.nl.ca, debra@naomiklein.org, > andrew.krystal@atlanticradio.rogers.com, georgebarron@ndp.ca, > gladgardens@eastlink.ca, mahon.austen@ns.sympatico.ca, > webo@xplornet.com, alltrue@nl.rogers.com, Governor.Rell@ct.gov, > john.conyers@mail.house.gov, premier@gov.ns.ca, premier@gov.sk.ca, > premier@leg.gov.mb.ca, premier@gov.ab.ca, savage.m@parl.gc.ca, > info@norfolksheriffma.org, Eyking.M@parl.gc.ca > > Here are few documents that Victor's lawyer T.J. Burke will have to > argue someday or my name ain't "Just Dave" > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2619653/harper-and-bankers > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2720407/nb-securities-commission > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2720598/police-commission > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2720385/nb-law-society > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2720361/nb-judicial-council > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2720294/nb-governor > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2719178/lord-mckenna > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718820/jan-20th-fredericton > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2619655/jeff-mockler > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2719355/miller-macallister > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2724591/tanker-contemptable > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2724611/weir-richard > > BTW Rest assured I already blogged this email as usual in several spots > that pretend thay are concerned about affairs of state within "THE Place > to BE" However obviously I did bother to stress test Chucky Leblanc's > journalistic integrity anymore EH? Everybody and his dog knows that > that French man in particular has none N'est Pas Danny Boy? > > Veritas Vincit > David Raymond Amos > >
---------- Original message ---------- From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:37:06 -0400 Subject: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 Whereas outside counsel for the RCMP now prefer emails from me rather than confer in private please allow me to introduce Andrew Kemp to Mark Ertel To: akemp@andrewkemp.ca, craig.callens@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, m.ertel@bsbcriminallaw.com, roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, lianna.longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Ian.McPhail@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, lporteous@kleinlyons.com, sunrayzulu@shaw.ca, Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca, patrick_doran1@hotmail.com, pol7163@calgarypolice.ca, Glen Canning grcanning@gmail.com, police@halifax.ca, mnielsen@pgcitizen.ca Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Tracey Matters traceymatters@bigpond.com, cward@laxtonco.com, Colin.Warwick@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Paul.Collister@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, radical@radicalpress.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, nmoore@bellmedia.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca
RCMP chooses trial by judge on Labour Code charges 4 charges relate to equipment, training and supervision after 3 officers killed, 2 wounded by Justin Bourque
Darryl Davies, a criminology professor at Carleton
University, has been studying RCMP policing and training for seven
years. (Radio-Canada)
A criminology professor who recommended in 2010 that the
RCMP immediately adopt carbines for all uniformed officers testified
Monday he got conflicting responses from the national police force.
Darryl Davies, a professor at Carleton University in Ottawa, said the
RCMP initially rejected his report in 2010 as being "inadequate," but
by January 2011, he was thanked for the great job he had done and
invited out to lunch.
The about-face came after the inquest into the 2005 shooting deaths of four RCMP officers in Mayerthorpe, Alta., said Davies.
'It was a no-brainer.'
- Darryl Davies, criminologist
"I guess they decided to go ahead with my recommendations, he
told the RCMP's trial over alleged labour code safety violations in
connection with the 2014 shooting deaths of three Moncton Mounties and
wounding of two others.
"You needed the carbine, and you [needed] it yesterday," said Davies, summarizing his report for the Moncton courtroom.
He said he found overwhelming support among frontline officers for
replacing shotguns with carbines, and he concluded the advantages
outweighed the disadvantages.
"It was a no-brainer."
At the time of the Moncton shootings in June 2014, no one in the
local Codiac Regional RCMP detachment had been trained to use the
carbines, but some detachments elsewhere in the country were more
advanced.
Davies said he was commissioned by the RCMP in April 2009 and asked
to consider three options: replacing shotguns with carbines, keeping
shotguns, and adding carbines to the force's existing weapons.
He submitted his report on March 3, 2010, but said he received no response for three months.
"I was astounded," he told the Moncton courtroom.
In June, after he was already paid $80,000 for the report, he
received a letter from Bob Paulson, the assistant commissioner at the
time, expressing dissatisfaction, he said.
His review "didn't go into enough detail" and didn't have enough Canadian data, he was told.
Davies, who had worked on three previous contracts for the RCMP, said
he had a verbal agreement this study would consist of a questionnaire
for RCMP members, another questionnaire for police officers from other
forces and a literature review.
But during cross-examination, defence lawyer Mark Ertel suggested
Paulson told Davies he was supposed to do a needs-analysis of firearms
and instead did a survey.
"For the first time in eight years, I finally understand why I got
that letter," Davies said. "You've done me an invaluable service.
"Communication broke down at the RCMP and it certainly broke down with me."
Accused of having 'axe to grind'
RCMP pleaded not guilty on charges the force
violated four health and safety provisions of the Canada Labour Code in
connection with the 2014 shootings in Moncton that took the lives of
Const. Douglas Larche, Const. Dave Ross and Const. Fabrice Gevaudan.
(RCMP)
Earlier in the proceedings, Ertel had accused Davies of being biased against Paulson, who is now commissioner.
"There's a little personal battle you have with Bob Paulson," he
said, referring to Davies having spoken out against Paulson through the
media.
Davies, who called for Paulson's resignation after issues of sexual
harassment within the force surfaced, said his comments were in response
to questions asked by reporters.
"So you're not here with an axe to grind?" asked Ertel.
"Absolutely not," Davies replied.
"You've already called the RCMP guilty in the media in this very
case," continued Ertel, reading one of the media reports that quoted
Davies.
"Officers killed because they were not provided adequate
weapons," Ertel read aloud. "Where's the presumption of innocence," he
asked.
"Those are fair comments," replied Davies.
Carbine pros and cons
Davies said he became aware of "a gap in the firearms technology as
early as 2005," when the Mounties were ambushed in Mayerthorpe.
During that shooting, officers were asking neighbouring farmers if they could borrow guns, he said.
When he met with the RCMP in 2009, Davies was told the force was
being mocked by other forces in Canada for not already having the
carbines, he said.
His report found there were several advantages to adopting carbines, including shooting distance and accuracy.
Carbines could enable officers to neutralize an active shooter
without having to get close and compromise their own safety, said
Davies. The accuracy of the weapons would also be good for public
safety, he said.
One of the disadvantages he identified included the fact that
carbines are so powerful they can penetrate bullet-proof vests and even
buildings. Proper training is essential, he stressed.
Davies also noted the high cost of carbines, about $1,500 to $2,500
at the time, and potential opposition from government, based on the
cost. But his report indicated cost should never take precedence over
safety considerations, he said.
79% wanted carbines
A survey he conducted found tremendous support for adopting carbines among about 100 RCMP members who responded, said Davies.
The lion's share of respondents described the shotgun and 9-mm pistol as "archaic" technology, he said.
Seventy-nine per cent of the RCMP respondents said they wanted the
carbine, either as a replacement of shotguns, or in addition to, the
courtroom heard.
About 70 per cent said they believed adopting carbines would improve morale among members.
Some expressed concerns there would be a backlash, with citizens
accusing the RCMP of "militarizing." But the majority felt the public
would understand the need for the force to better arm itself, he said.
Charges after investigation
After Justin Bourque's shooting rampage in a Moncton neighbourhood,
Employment and Social Development Canada investigated, which happens any
time a federal government employee dies on the job.
The investigation concluded in May 2015 with charges against the
national police force, which was accused of four health and safety
violations under the Canada Labour Code.
No individual RCMP manager or supervisor is named in the charges, which are:
Failing to provide RCMP members with appropriate use of force
equipment and related user training when responding to an active threat
or active shooter event.
Failing to provide RCMP members with appropriate information,
instruction and/or training to ensure their health and safety when
responding to an active threat or active shooter event in an open
environment.
Failing to provide RCMP supervisory personnel with appropriate
information, instruction and/or training to ensure the health and safety
of RCMP members when responding to an active threat or active shooter
event in an open environment.
Failing to ensure the health and safety at work of every person employed by it, namely: RCMP members, was protected.
Each charge carries a maximum fine of $1 million.
The RCMP pleaded not guilty to all charges and elected to be tried by judge only.
Just over two months have been set aside for the trial, which began last week.
The trial resumes on Tuesday at 9:30 a.m. AT with continued cross-examination of Davies, the Crown's third witness.
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Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Tue,
27 Jun 2017 09:08:48 -0400
Subject:
Darryl Davies said "I think it speaks to the arrogance" I agree
Furthermore In my humble opinion nothing is easy to Bob Paulson's and Rod
Knecht's very unethical minds.
Afte all US
Ambassador Bruce Heyman andUS Consul
General Steven Giegerich cannot deny that the CBC and a former US Ambassador
got exactly the same pile of document from Mean Old Me just in time for my birthday
in July of 2002 CORRECT? Berfore Anyone tries to deny it perhaps you should
review page 14 of the pdf hereto attached then read all the rest rather closely
N'esy Pas?
The RCMP have shot and killed at least 16 men in BC in the
last six years. The list, compiled from BC Coroners Service records
and other public documents, is below.
Name, Date and Location:
Peter de Groot, October 13, 2014; Slocan
John Buehler, September 17, 2014; Valemount
Gaetan Plante, January 14, 2014; Surrey
Ryan Jacob, January 31, 2013; Burnaby
Gregory Matters, September 10, 2012; Prince George
Justin Zinser, September 24, 2011; Nimpo Lake
Brendon Beddow, March 23, 2011; Surrey
Adam Purdie, March 2, 2011; Surrey
Alvin Wright, August 7, 2010; Burnaby
Wilbert Bartley, July 30, 2010; Kamloops
Matthew Wilcox, January 10, 2010; North Vancouver
Jeffrey Hughes, October 23, 2009, Nanaimo
Valeri George, September 30, 2009; Rock Creek
Rodney Jackson, September 29, 2009; Hazelton
Kenneth Baines, July 15, 2009; Surrey
Derek Whelton, March 1, 2009; Cowichan
"RCMP deployed a four-man emergency response team, each member kitted
out in camouflage gear, body armour, and M16 rifle. Cpl. Collin Warwick,
a police service dog handler, was seconded to the team. The inquest
heard this week that Cpl. Warwick was previously involved in at least
two fatal shootings while deployed with the ERT. Inscribed on the M16
rifle he carried was the motto “Live Free or Die.”
The coroner’s inquest into the death of Greg Matters
continues Tuesday, October 15, 2013 at the Prince George courthouse,
with the resumption of the testimony of Greg’s mother Lorraine. Further
witnesses will include the RCMP members who were present when Greg
Matters was shot twice in the back when he was confronted at his
mother’s rural Prince George property on Monday, September 10, 2012.
The coroner and jury have heard that RCMP Cpl. Colin Warwick fired the
fatal shots.
RCMP Cpl. Colin Warwick (aka Cpl. Collin Warwick) with his police service dog “Baron”; May, 2013
The shots that killed Greg Matters were fired from a Colt .223
calibre M-16 inscribed with the words “Live Free or Die”, depicted in
this photograph taken soon after the incident:
According to a public report
issued by the Independent Investigations Office in May, 2013, the
police actions in shooting Greg Matters were not criminal because,
according to police witnesses, Matters was brandishing a small hatchet
(approximately 11 inches long with a four inch blade) above his head
when he was shot.
There were no civilian witnesses to the shooting. Despite jury
recommendations made by coroner’s juries in many previous fatal RCMP
shootings, the RCMP ERT team members apparently did not have video
recording devices with them when they were deployed.
HMMM NO RESULTS FOR THE RCMP YET ABOUT KENT COUNTY BUT THE COP WITH THE DOG AND HIS HAND ON HIS GUN IN NEW BRUNSWICK SURE LOOKED A LOT LIKE THE DUDE ABOVE N'ESY PAS?
Public Safety minister says spending necessary to protect public
CBC News, Dec 05, 2013
Policing costs associated with anti-shale gas protests in Kent County
have reached more than $4 million over the past six months, says the
Finance minister.
RCMP officers have been closely monitoring protests along Highway 11 on a daily basis for weeks.
Extra officers from other provinces have also been called in to help
as SWN Resources Canada conducts seismic testing in the Rexton area.
“We have a contract with the RCMP,” said Public Safety Minister Bruce
Northrup. “It’s not costing the communities around that area, it’s
directly coming from the provincial coffers, so as public safety, we’re
paying the bill right now,” he said.
“I don’t want to spend it, to be honest with you,” said Northrup.
“I’d rather put it in hospitals, or education, or schools, or health
care, or take care of our seniors, but it’s something that we have to
do,” he said.
“My job as minister of Public Safety, my job is to protect the public.”
Still, not everyone approached by CBC News on Thursday agrees with the spending.
“I think it’s ridiculous,” said Denis Cormier, of Dieppe. “I mean, it shouldn’t even be allowed.”
“It’s a lot of money,” agreed Doum Legere. “You would think that money would be well served some place else.”
Northrup says he’s asking for peace from protesters to allow SWN Resources a few more days to finish its exploration work.
Even if that occurs, however, the police presence will remain and the policing bill will continue to grow.
Violent clashes
Clashes between protesters and police have continued despite a court
injunction obtained by SWN Resources to keep protesters from interfering
with its work.
Under the terms of the injunction, protesters must stay 20 metres
away from the side of roads where the company is working and 250 metres
away from the front or back of its trucks.
But Highway 11 has been closed several times in recent days due to protests that have included blockades of tire fires.
On Oct. 17, dozens of protesters were arrested and six RCMP vehicles were torched.
Some of the $4 million is going toward replacing those vehicles, said RCMP Const. Jullie Rogers-Marsh.
“Each could cost approximately $45,000, but that wouldn’t include the
equipment that was inside,” she said. “So upwards to $300,000 plus,
simply for those six vehicles that were destroyed by fire.”
RCMP won’t say how many extra officers have been brought in to help, or from where.
“I certainly can’t confirm the numbers because that’s operational and
could potentially compromise the security of our members,” said
Rogers-Marsh.
SWN Resources has until Dec. 17 to complete its seismic mapping of the area.
Keep in mind that Band Councilors and Chiefs all take an Oath of
loyalty to the Crown. One way or another, they have to be lying. It’s
just a simple fact.
If they are cops or lawyers, they also take an oath, including one of secrecy. Some guys are taking a double oath, ffs.
Watch out for the secret deals and gag orders as with the Anishnaabek at Pinehouse.
Kittoh
Protesters faced a line of police officers in Rexton back
in October 2013 as police were enforcing an injunction to end an ongoing
demonstration against shale gas exploration. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian
Press)
The independent Commission for Public Complaints Against the
RCMP is investigating complaints about police conduct during the shale
gas protests in Kent County.
Commission staff members are in New Brunswick as a part of the
watchdog agency's investigation, which was prompted following the
violent clashes between the RCMP and anti-shale gas protesters in
eastern New Brunswick last year.
Anti-shale gas demonstrators closed highways and the RCMP made dozens of arrests.
The protests along Highway 126 in Kent County started in June and saw
several arrests. In October, the protests and arrests continued and the
RCMP seized explosive devices, firearms, knives and ammunition were
seized from the protesters.
Tim Cogan, a spokesperson with the commission, said investigators have started to conduct interviews in New Brunswick.
The independent Commission for Public
Complaints Against the RCMP is investigating how the police reacted to
shale gas protests last year. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)
“We've got well over three dozen to go and it may actually grow
depending on what information we gather from the people we're talking
to,” Cogan said.
Once its review is finished, the independent federal agency will make
recommendations to the RCMP on how it can improve or fix any issues.
The commission, which was created by Parliament, is not a part of the
RCMP and is intended to be a tool to keep the RCMP accountable.
Prior to doing interviews, the commission reviewed the
RCMP's files. The commission wants to know more about how the RCMP
handled the shale gas situation.
Cogan said complainant and individual RCMP interviews will take months to finish.
“We're taking statements from them, gathering any physical evidence that they have,” Cogan said.
“Any records that they may have of what transpired that has given arise to their complaint.”
This is not the first time the commission has investigated a New Brunswick complaint.
The last investigation surrounded a complaint that the RCMP covered up allegations of sexual abuse at the Kingsclear Youth Training Centre.
The commission ruled in October 2007 that there was no evidence of an RCMP cover up.
By Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon, CBC News,November 17, 2016
Thirty-five of the 89 Indigenous activists secretly investigated and
profiled by the RCMP as potential threats to public safety have ties to
New Brunswick, a recently released document shows.
The 35 individuals participated in anti-shale gas protests in the
Kent County area in 2013 and met the RCMP’s criteria of “disruptive or
volatile,” according to the report on the year-long investigation,
dubbed Project SITKA.
Police followed their social media accounts, compiled lists of their
vehicles and phone numbers, and tracked their five-year history of
attending demonstrations, as well as which organizations they were
involved with and what people they associated with.
“It raises a whole bunch of flags around privacy issues,”
said Jeffrey Monaghan, an assistant professor at Carleton University’s
Institute for Criminology and Criminal Justice, who obtained the
document through an Access to Information request as part of a book
he’s working on with Andy Crosby about state surveillance of Indigenous
activists.
Monaghan contends it’s a violation of civil liberties. “These are
Charter-protected activities; these are public, political events that
people are engaging with,” he stressed.
The RCMP has not responded to a request for comment on Project SITKA,
which was launched in early 2014 to “assess the threat posed by
individuals and/or groups (Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal) willing and
capable of utilizing unlawful tactics in association with Aboriginal
public order events.”
‘Murky world’ of ‘pre-crime’
Its National Intelligence Co-ordination Centre initially compiled a
list of 313 people, based on information submitted by RCMP detachments
and various policing agencies across the country.
Of those, 227 were identified as “passive protesters.” Police created
individual profiles of the remaining 89, which were distributed to
front-line officers, divisional analysts and law enforcement partners
through two databases: the Automated Criminal Intelligence Information
System (ACIIS) and Police Reporting and Occurrence System.
“What kind of investigation is this? Is this a
criminal investigation? Police are using criminal tools and criminal
justice resources to do a quasi-criminal investigation … but no one’s
notified. It’s outside of any kind of procedural expectations we would
have for a criminal justice process,” said Monaghan.
“So it happens in this kind of murky world of I guess what we could
call pre-crime. It’s kind of trying to determine who is dangerous in the
future by going back in the past and trying to profile people based on
information they have.”
The report breaks the list down by region. New Brunswick, which saw
months of demonstrations against shale gas exploration by Southwestern
Energy Company (SWN) Resources Canada near Elsipogtog First Nation in
2013, including a violent clash with police on Oct. 17 that ended with
six police cars being torched and 40 people arrested, had the highest
number at 35.
British Columbia was next with 16, then Ontario (15), Manitoba (11), Nova Scotia (10), Saskatchewan (1) and P.E.I. (1).
Edmonton Police Chief Rod Knecht testified Tuesday about
his previous position as RCMP senior deputy commissioner in Ottawa and
his role in the carbines issue. (CBC)
A former senior RCMP officer testified Tuesday he was frustrated in
2010 with how long the national police force was taking to adopt patrol
carbines and ordered work to that end to proceed, even before the
decision was officially made by the senior executive committee.
Rod Knecht, who was the senior deputy commissioner in Ottawa at the
time, said he believed it was urgent to get better weapons for frontline
officers following the shooting deaths of four Mounties
in Mayerthorpe, Alta., in 2005.
'In my mind, it was a pretty easy decision.'
- Rod Knecht, former RCMP senior deputy commissioner
"I felt there was no need to delay it any further," said Knecht, who
approved research be conducted to identify the best model of the
semi-automatic weapon in early 2011.
"In my mind, it was a pretty easy decision.
He said he knew the actual implementation would likely take 12 to 18
months, in part because of financial constraints and training
requirements.
"I was pretty comfortable with my decision," he told the RCMP's trial
on charges of violating health and safety provisions of the Canada
Labour Code in connection with the shooting deaths of
three Moncton Mounties and wounding of two others in 2014.
Mayerthorpe fatalities had lasting impact
Knecht, who is now chief of the Edmonton Police Service, said he was
"not a big supporter of the carbines initially." He had concerns about
using such high-powered weapons in urban areas, he said.
"But I guess I became educated on the value of the carbine over time
by talking to my colleagues" and through personal experience during his
40-year policing career.
He said he realized carbines, if used properly, were superior weapons to shotguns or pistols.
Carbines were a "topical issue from time to time" over the years but
"became more of a pressing issue post-Mayerthorpe," he said.
Knecht is from Alberta and was the RCMP's second-in-command there during the Mayerthorpe shootings, the Moncton courtroom heard.
He said the events had a lasting impact on him and when he arrived at
the national headquarters in Ottawa in 2010, he was determined to speed
things along.
In early 2011, the judge presiding at an inquiry into
the Mayerthorpe shooting deaths recommended the RCMP give high priority
to carbines.
Knecht left his position of senior deputy commissioner at the end of
May 2011. He was unaware of timelines or target dates for rollout at
that time, he said.
Defence knocks consultant's report
Witness Darryl Davies, a criminology
professor at Carleton University, has been studying RCMP policing and
training for seven years. (Radio-Canada)
Earlier in the day, a lawyer defending the RCMP tried to poke holes
in a 2010 report that recommended patrol carbines be adopted
immediately.
Mark Ertel argued the RCMP rejected Carleton University
criminology Prof. Darryl Davies's recommendations because his report
failed to meet expectations — not because the force didn't believe in
protecting its officers.
When the force signed a contract with Davies in April 2009, "it's
obvious from the statement of work the RCMP wants to bring in carbines,"
Ertel said.
But Davies's report was largely anecdotal, rather than
evidence-based, and he didn't follow what was outlined in his contract,
according to Ertel.
That's why more research was needed in subsequent years as part of the force's due diligence, Ertel suggested.
The RCMP is accused of four health and safety violations under the
Canada Labour Code stemming from a shooting rampage by Justin Bourque in
June 2014 that saw three Moncton Mounties killed and two others wounded
as he walked through a Moncton neighbourhood with a high-powered
weapon.
From left, Const. Douglas James Larche, 40,
from Saint John, Const. Dave Joseph Ross, 32, from Victoriaville, Que.,
and Const. Fabrice Georges Gevaudan, 45, from Boulogne-Billancourt,
France, were killed in Moncton on June 4, 2014. (RCMP)
In his testimony Monday, Davies said his 2010 report concluded
the RCMP needed to acquire carbines for front-line officers "yesterday."
Carbines have greater range and accuracy than the shotguns used by RCMP.
Crown prosecutor Paul Adams challenged the defence lawyer's assertions during re-examination of Davies.
He said the criminologist worked closely with the RCMP's use-of-force
section for roughly a year and no one ever told him he should do things
differently.
Outside court, Davies told reporters it was only when Bob Paulson
came in as assistant commissioner of the RCMP that there was confusion
about the expectations from the report.
"There's something that's wrong and it's called incompetence in the RCMP," said Davies.
"That they wouldn't know what reports they're dealing with, they
wouldn't know what terms of reference they're using, I think it speaks
to the arrogance, it speaks to the inertia and the apathy of senior
managers, and the rank and file have a right to work in a safe
environment."
Davies said he can't go as far as saying his report would have saved
lives, but he's sure it would have started the debate over supplying
officers with carbines four years before the fatal shootings in Moncton.
The charges against the RCMP are:
Failing to provide RCMP members with appropriate use-of-force
equipment and related user training when responding to an active threat
or active shooter event.
Failing to provide RCMP members with appropriate information,
instruction and/or training to ensure their health and safety when
responding to an active threat or active shooter event in an open
environment.
Failing to provide RCMP supervisory personnel with appropriate
information, instruction and/or training to ensure the health and safety
of RCMP members when responding to an active threat or active shooter
event in an open environment.
Failing to ensure the health and safety at work of every person employed by it, namely RCMP members, was protected.
Each charge carries a maximum fine of $1 million.
The trial, which started last week, resumes on Wednesday at 9:30 a.m. AT with the Crown's fifth witness.
Top Mountie says it was acceptable RCMP didn't have carbine rifles during Moncton shootings
RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson says he was concerned by police militarization and adoption of carbine rifles
By Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon, CBC NewsPosted: Jun 15, 2017 8:30 AM AT
RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson, centre, heads from the
Moncton Law Courts with defence lawyers Ian Carter and Jeff Doody during
a break Thursday as he testifies at the RCMP's Labour Code trial in
connection with the June 2014 shooting rampage that claimed the lives of
three officers. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)
RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson says it was acceptable that officers in
Moncton, N.B., didn't have carbine rifles or the training to use them
when they responded to Justin Bourque's deadly shooting rampage on June
4, 2014.
Paulson testified Thursday he doesn't believe the Moncton officers
were poorly equipped, or that carbines would have made any difference
that night.
He made the comments during cross-examination by the Crown at the
RCMP's Labour Code trial in connection with the shooting deaths of three
Moncton Mounties and wounding of two others.
The national police force is charged with violating four Labour Code
provisions. It's alleged the force failed to provide members with
appropriate use-of-force equipment and training for responding to an
active threat or active shooting event, and failed to ensure the health
and safety of every person in the force.
Paulson was not summoned by the Crown, and is not personally named in
the indictment, but chose to attend court to defend the RCMP.
"Well, I'm the accused," he told reporters outside the Moncton Law
Courts Thursday afternoon, following his approximately six hours of
testimony.
"I represent the RCMP and as the accused individual, the commissioner
that's in charge, I thought it appropriate to come and tell my story.
And so I did."
But when the Crown grilled Paulson about whether he was "ready to
take any responsibility for the deaths of those three officers," he
replied, "No."
Paulson declined to make any other comments to reporters outside court, saying he didn't think it was appropriate.
Evidence phase ends
Paulson was the final witness at the six-week provincial court trial.
Closing arguments are expected to begin on July 4, but Judge Leslie
Jackson has advised that his decision will not be quick. He anticipates
it will take "some time," he said.
Paulson's testimony comes just two weeks before he plans to retire, after 39 years of service, including 32 for the RCMP and the last five as the top Mountie.
"Policing fit me like a glove," he told the Moncton courtroom. "I loved the job, I loved succeeding in the job."
RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson was in the
witness box for about six hours on Thursday. Closing arguments are set
to begin on July 4. (Andrew Robson)
Crown prosecutor Paul Adams led Paulson through a firearms capability
evaluation report — written in 2011, the same year he was appointed
commissioner — which identified equipment gaps, compounded by a lack of
training.
Adams asked Paulson if he agreed those gaps still existed following
Bourque's 2014 shooting spree in a residential area of Moncton's north
end. Paulson, who wore a black suit rather than his uniform in the
witness box, agreed.
"That's your testimony, that that's acceptable?" asked Adams.
"Yes, with the caveat that it's not acceptable the officers were
murdered in that way and that the attacker acted the way he did,"
Paulson replied.
The prosecutor asked if it was reasonable that it "took seven years"
to deploy carbines, which were first recommended to the force in 2006
and accepted by senor managers in 2011.
Yes, "given the circumstances," said Paulson, referring to the
studies he believed needed to be completed to justify their use, as well
as financial challenges.
The RCMP eventually acquired C8 carbines for
its members, but none of the rifles were available to the Moncton
officers at the time of the shootings. (CBC)
Carbines are semi-automatic, short-barrelled rifles that have a longer and more accurate range than pistols or shotguns.
The use of carbines — and why the Mounties didn't have them — has been at the centre of the trial.
Bourque was carrying an M305.308 semi-automatic rifle and a Mossberg
500 12-gauge shotgun during the shootings. The RCMP officers who
responded were armed with their duty pistols.
Mounties are now equipped with carbines, but the rifles were not
available to the Moncton officers on the night of the shootings.
Previous witnesses at the trial have suggested some of the deaths
could have been prevented if the officers had been better armed.
The court has also heard about six internal RCMP reports — all done
after the 2005 murder of four Mounties in Mayerthorpe, Alta. —
that recommended police be armed with carbines.
Paulson appeared to tear up as the Crown reviewed the number of RCMP
officers killed by gunfire in the line of duty since 2010. Ten of 11
were killed by long guns, not including the Moncton Mounties, the
courtroom heard.
No one can say that any one of them would survived if they had been armed with a carbine, testified Paulson.
"How many experts would have been needed to tell you carbines can mitigate the risk officers face?" Adams asked.
"Well, it would've needed to be an expert who could've put some evidence behind their assertions," Paulson replied.
Nadine Larche, widow of murdered officer Const. Doug Larche, 40, sighed at his response.
'It's not realistic to expect perfection, but [it's] not unrealistic to compare our performance with perfection.'
- Bob Paulson, RCMP commissioner
The other officers who were shot and killed by Bourque were
constables Fabrice Gevaudan, 45, and David Joseph Ross, 32. Constables
Darlene Goguen and Eric Dubois were wounded.
It was a "devastating set of events our officers were asked to
respond to and in my view, [they] responded heroically … and without
fail," said Paulson.
He was on a flight to Vancouver when he learned of the Moncton
shootings. He activated his BlackBerry during the plane's descent and
discovered numerous messages, he said.
By the time the plane landed, he said, he had a full appreciation of
the situation and cancelled his meetings in Vancouver. He spoke to New
Brunswick officials on the phone to ensure they had the support they
needed and returned to Ottawa on the next available flight.
He travelled to Moncton on June 6, the day after Bourque was
captured, and met with officers and relatives of the fallen officers. He
also ordered a review of the shootings in a bid to identify areas for
improvement and try to prevent a similar situation from happening again.
"It's not realistic to expect perfection, but [it's] not unrealistic to compare our performance with perfection," he said.
Under direct examination by Mark Ertel, defence lawyer for the force,
Paulson said there was no way to foresee an active outdoor shooter
event. No police force provided outdoor shooter training prior to
the Moncton shootings.
The fact that carbine deployment was sped up after the Moncton
shootings was not an admission on his part that it had been too slow, he
said.
'I am a time bomb': Greg Matters said his end was near a year before he was shot dead by RCMP
Greg Matters was a soldier, a gentle bear of a
man, and sensitive to a fault. But when he returned from deployment to
Bosnia in 2001, something wasn’t right
Courtesy Matters Family
Greg Matters was a soldier, a gentle bear of a man, and sensitive
to a fault. He had a beautiful girlfriend, Sonya Booker, whom he’d met
in New Brunswick early in his military service. “He was fiercely loyal,
always wanted to treat everybody with fairness and respect,” Ms. Booker
recalls.
THE CANADIAN PRESS / Sean Kilpatrick
But when he returned from deployment to Bosnia in 2001, something
wasn’t right. Mr. Matters withdrew, from Ms. Booker, from other friends.
He knew, but would mostly keep to himself, that he was “screwed up.” He
was suffering from something common to soldiers but kept under wraps.
In those days, post traumatic stress was seldom diagnosed, let alone
discussed.
More than ten years later, and just months before his final, fatal
confrontation with police, Mr. Matters was in RCMP custody, sitting at
the Prince George detachment with a young officer, talking it out.
Trying to make sense of things, with little success. Mr. Matters was
under arrest for uttering threats. Not for the first time, either.
He’d already made serious threats against Ian McPhail, Director of
the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP. In November 2010,
Mr. Matters emailed a corrosive note to Mr. McPhail, expressing anger
at the outcome of a complaint he had made against RCMP in New Brunswick.
According to a police report obtained by the National Post
, Mr. Matters had expressed a desire and intent to kill the
complaints commissioner, and police. “I am a ticking time-bomb,” he
wrote. “If something said is to happen, note I have been wronged — I
will end this through dying and killing as many of you as I can in the
process!”
Maybe this is my final year
Mr. Matters was convicted and spent two months in custody, under
psychiatric evaluation. There were other allegations; Threats against a
local parking lot attendant. Threats against police back east.
Now he was accused of telling a probation officer that Crown Counsel
in Prince George had treated him unjustly, and that he would stab or
strangle anyone who treated him that way, according to the police
report.
Courtesy Matters Family
He seemed fed up, exhausted. “I don’t want things to happen anymore,”
Mr. Matters told RCMP Cpl. Ryan Arnold, in their June 2011 interview at
the Prince George detachment. “Maybe this is my final year.”
“What do you mean by that?” asked Cpl. Ryan.
Mr. Matters described having “premonitions” about certain events,
such as the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, and Russell Williams, the former
Canadian Forces colonel convicted of two murders.
“You have a premonition about this year or something?” asked Cpl. Ryan. “You’re not going to see your 40th birthday type thing?”
“Yeah, it’s my final year,” replied Mr. Matters. “I don’t know what’s
going to happen. I’m not gonna go running after police to get shot or
anything like that. It’s probably a car accident or something, who
knows.”
He did see his 40th birthday. It wasn’t a car accident that killed him.
It was police. The fatal shooting of Greg Matters on his family
property near Prince George, in September 2012, has divided the local
community, with some — including members of his family — pointing
fingers at RCMP members, accusing them of over-reacting to yet another
outburst from a troubled but harmless army vet. By the time of his
death, police were aware he suffered from PTSD.
B.C. Coroners Service
Others claim that Mr. Matters, by his actions, had invited his own death. He certainly seemed to have anticipated it.
The circumstances are complex, so much that a coroner’s inquest
examining the fatal shooting has been extended, from one week to two.
That still isn’t enough time to hear all of the evidence. The hearing
was to have concluded Friday in Prince George, but more witnesses are
still to come and there’s no end in sight.
Mr. Matters was mentally ill, the inquest jury has heard. He was
angry, at times unstable; police had reason to treat him with caution.
At issue is whether they had prepared themselves to deal with him in
crisis.
Mr. Matters served in Bosnia as a member of the Royal Canadian
Artillery, and he’d injured his back in a heavy equipment accident
overseas. But according to documents obtained by the National Post
, his emotional trauma seemed related to other incidents, most
prominently an attack he suffered years earlier, as a fresh recruit.
Courtesy Matters Family
A handful of guys in his unit “laid the boots to me really bad,” Mr.
Matters told Cpl. Arnold in their June 2011 interview. He’d suffered
nightmares ever since.
After his honourable discharge from service in 2009, Mr. Matters
returned to the family property southeast of Prince George. He lived
there with his mother, Lorraine. He received a small army pension of
$123 a month; he did not find steady work.
Mr. Matters had received counselling prior to his discharge, and he
continued to receive treatment from a Vancouver-based psychiatrist, who
diagnosed his post-traumatic stress.
He was notorious to local police, thanks to the various allegations and arrests over uttering threats.
“We read things that have been written by you, or authored by you, and some of those things are pretty scary and
alarming,” Cpl. Arnold told Mr. Matters, in the course of their June
2011 interview. Mr. Matters acknowledged that he distrusted authority
figures and that he was “screwed up.”
Courtesy Matters Family
He had issues with his older brother, Trevor, who lives in Prince George and who is estranged from the rest of the Matters family. The two brothers had altercations in the past and had been cautioned to stay away from each other.
Cpl. Arnold prepared a report.
“After talking with him for over an hour, [I] got the sense that
Matters would not intentionally harm any member of the RCMP or Crown
Counsel,” the officer wrote, “However, [he] may react unpredictably
should they treat him ‘unjustly’ in the future.”
B.C. Coroners Service
This was prescient. Mr. Matters got into a scrap with his brother
Trevor early the morning of Sept. 9, 2012.
The coroner’s inquest has
heard various accounts of what triggered the confrontation. Trevor
Matters testified that after consuming a few drinks with friends, he’d
felt an urge to visit his mother. At around 3 o’clock that morning, he
drove up to the house she shared with Greg.
“It wasn’t because I was impaired,” Trevor told the inquest. He
decided to leave instead, and soon noticed a car tailing him. Greg
rammed into his SUV, he testified, sending him off the road. Then Greg
rushed over and struck him in the face. An off-duty RCMP who lived
nearby heard the commotion and attended the scene. Greg told the officer
that Trevor had been “spinning donuts” on the family property, and
“that he had to run him down,” the inquest heard.
The RCMP began preparing charge recommendations against Greg Matters.
Later the same morning, two Mounties went to the family property,
intending to arrest him for dangerous driving, assault with a weapon
(his vehicle), assault, and breach of a court order. Mr. Matters refused
to surrender to the police.
What followed was a tense, confusing standoff with the RCMP lasting
the rest of that day and into the next. RCMP Staff Sgt. Brad Anderson
was able to reach Mr. Matters by telephone, and the two men had a number
of exchanges. At one point Mr. Matters agreed to give himself up. But
that never happened.
Mr. Matters was upset at being blamed by police for the incident with
Trevor. He wanted his brother arrested and put in custody, but police
were going after him, instead. When he became aware that police had
positioned themselves around the property, the inquest heard, he became
incensed. The RCMP set up a mobile command post about a kilometre from
the Matters property, and a police helicopter hovered overhead.
Lorraine Matters was also in contact with police. Staff Sgt. Anderson
told the inquest that she might have been the best person to get Mr.
Matters off the property and safely into custody. He later decided she
would likely hinder efforts. She gave a different account, telling the
inquest that her son would have left the property with her and gone to
the RCMP detachment in Prince George, had police just backed off.
By the standoff’s second day, Mr. Matters had moved himself to an old
cabin on the property. Police were concerned that he might have
firearms with him, the inquest has heard. Staff Sgt. Anderson continued
to speak with him, via cellphone, and again, Mr. Matters indicated that
he might surrender.
When Lorraine tried driving up to the cabin, police stopped her. A
scuffle ensued; Ms. Matters went to the ground and was handcuffed, and
then dragged to a squad car. She was arrested for obstruction and for
assault. She claims she was kneed in the chest and had the muzzle of an
M16 assault rifle shoved into her face, leaving a mark just under her
chin. She was taken to Prince George and locked in a detention cell.
A neighbour tried to approach the old cabin, also thinking she might
be able to coax Mr. Matters outside. Police had allowed Mr. Matters to
think he could leave the property with the kindly neighbour, but it was a
ruse; they wanted him to see her car approach, hoping he would come out
of the cabin. The neighbour was also stopped by police, and she caused a
minor fuss.
RCMP deployed a four-man emergency response team, each member kitted
out in camouflage gear, body armour, and M16 rifle. Cpl. Collin Warwick,
a police service dog handler, was seconded to the team. The inquest
heard this week that Cpl. Warwick was previously involved in at least
two fatal shootings while deployed with the ERT. Inscribed on the M16
rifle he carried was the motto “Live Free or Die.”
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No one knows why Greg Matters decided to exit the cabin and come
towards police with a small hatchet in hand. According to police, he
held the weapon over his head and confronted several members, yelling.
One Mountie deployed his Taser; the barbs struck Mr. Matters in the
back, to no effect.
Mr. Matters kept coming, it is alleged. Cpl. Warwick, who began his
testimony at the inquest on Friday, raised his M16 and aimed at Mr.
Matters. He told the inquest that he pointed the rifle at Mr. Matters’
“centre of mass” and fired twice, into his chest. According to a
forensic pathologist who testified last week, the two bullets entered
his back. The veteran went down. Another officer put him in handcuffs.
He was dead.
She didn’t have to, but Sonya Booker flew to Prince George and
testified at his inquest last week. Mr. Matters had “such kindness,” she
said. Her comments were in stark contrast to much of what inquest
jurors have heard over nine hearing days. Eventually, they’ll have to
recommend what steps might be taken to prevent such a tragedy from ever
happening again.
Based on questions they have put to witnesses, including RCMP
members, they will likely recommend that more mental health resources be
made available to police, especially during confrontations with
distressed individuals. Some good may come of this.
A question that remains unresolved for him, he said, is the extent to which carbines need to be deployed.
It's not just about image; it's about the relationship with people,
said Paulson. It also affects quality of life in Canada, he said.
Concerns about police militarization
Paulson said he had concerns about police militarization, and the
adoption of carbine rifles represented a "significant change" in the use
of force for front-line officers.
But his feelings had nothing to do with how long it took the national police force to equip its members with carbines, he said.
Paulson said he doesn't shy away from criticism after an event like
the Moncton shootings. "Policing is a complex and evolving reality."
The trial has focused on the lack of carbines
in the response to the shooting spree in Moncton. (Marc
Grandmaison/Canadian Press)
But as he stated in his response to the MacNeil report he
commissioned into the shootings, "We can't devise a policing strategy
that considers an offender like him [Bourque] at every corner. We
cannot."
The 2015 report, led by retired assistant commissioner Alphonse MacNeil, made 64 recommendations, including expedited deployment of carbines.
Carbines 'front and centre' in 2009
Paulson said carbines were one of about a dozen priorities for the
RCMP use-of-force section starting in 2009, when the public's confidence
in the force was shaken amid allegations of sexual harassment, the
mismanagement of pension funds and the 2007 Taser death of Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport.
Carbines were "front and centre," he said, but the force had to
consider the effect they would have on the primary role of police, which
is policing people with their consent.
Military-style weapons, such as bigger guns, armoured vehicles and
more body armour can strain the relationship between police and the
communities they serve, said Paulson, who began his career in the
military.
Const. Mathieu Daigle testified May 8 at the
RCMP's Labour Code trial in connection with the Moncton Mountie
shootings. He said Justin Bourque would not have killed three police
officers had the Mounties been armed with carbines. (CBC)
The RCMP had an opportunity to learn from the Taser fallout, he said.
There wasn't a lot of evidence for Tasers, but the force needed to make
Canadians understand the purpose of carbines and the difference they
could make for front-line officers.
That's why extensive research was done, he said.
"It was what we ought to have done with the [Taser]," he said.
Paulson said he didn't feel carbines were the appropriate weapon for
the RCMP in 2009-10, but on Sept. 6, 2011, he supported the decision to
equip Mounties with Colt C-8 carbines.
He has also suggested the adoption of carbine rifles for front-line officers had to be measured following Dziekanski's Taser death.
"We knew the addition of another deadly force option, at a time when
we were being condemned for our conducted electrical weapon … would
require a careful and formal analysis of the need for the carbine,
together with the creation of precise policies on its use, its
distribution and training," Paulson stated in an internal email in 2014
that was obtained and published by Maclean's magazine.
Earlier this year, during his testimony to a committee of senators, Paulson described the carbine issue as "very electric."
"Very emotive discussions go around the carbine," he has said. "The
use of our tanks, because we have all that equipment — we got tanks, we
got drones, we got machine-guns. But, you know, are we going to be going
into shoplifters with a carbine?"
Bourque is serving five life sentences with no chance of parole for
75 years after pleading guilty to three counts of first-degree murder
and two counts of attempted murder.
Jenn
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November 11, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Yes, indeed power is addictive & it is a thing once addicted folks cling too. ReHab required.