Friday 31 July 2020

NB Power's rate hike plan for April 1 has been caught in pandemic limbo

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Methinks Nick Brown should fess up and admit that his latest boss Higgy don't care about NB Power raising rates. He is merely trying to inspire the narrative before he has the writ dropped N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-planned-rate-hike-pandemic-limbo-1.5669716



NB Power's rate hike plan for April 1 has been caught in pandemic limbo

'Increasing electricity prices at the wrong time may slow the economic recovery'


Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jul 31, 2020 7:00 AM AT



NB Power has long struggled to fulfill two competing goals: keeping rates for customers low and its own finances healthy. (Radio-Canada)

A rate increase NB Power was hoping to have in place April 1 to help boost its troubled finances is still in limbo heading toward next month as the province and utility both ponder when customers and the economy might be ready to absorb higher prices.

"Increasing electricity prices at the wrong time may slow the economic recovery and hurt our most vulnerable citizens," said province of New Brunswick spokesperson Nick Brown in an email Thursday.

In February, NB Power presented its case to a full Energy and Utilities Board (EUB) hearing for a 1.9 per cent increase in rates to take effect April 1 but on March 19, with a ruling imminent the utility requested an indefinite suspension of the application in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.



"Many businesses are closed or at reduced operation for an unknown time frame and many employees of those businesses have been affected as a result," said then NB Power president Gaetan Thomas in a letter to the EUB 

"NB Power has concluded that a rate increase implemented on April 1, 2020 would be counterproductive."


In January's State of the Province address Premier Blaine Higgs said NB Power had to 'immediately' come up with a plan to deal with its 'unacceptable debt.' Two months later the utility's finances were being battered by the COVID-19 pandemic. (Stephen MacGillivray/Canadian Press)

The utility said it would inform the EUB when a better time for an increase presented itself "In consultation with the Government of New Brunswick" but four months later the suspension continues with no word yet when the EUB will be released to deliver its rate decision and the utility freed up to charge customers more.

Marc Belliveau, a spokesperson for NB Power, suggested there is no decision on the immediate horizon.
"NB Power continues to monitor the impact of COVID-19 on its customers and its operations, which includes the impact of the timing of the EUB decision on rates," Belliveau said in an email.
 

NB Power lawyer John Furey guided the utility's application for an April 1 rate increase through a seven day hearing in February only to have the company suspend the request in March. (CBC)

Complicating the issue is that NB Power's own finances have been battered by the pandemic, worsening its already considerable money problems. 



Two weeks ago the utility declared a $16 million loss for the fiscal year ended in March, its first year of negative earnings in a decade.  

Expensive delay

In the current year, NB Power has been budgeting for a modest $40.9 million profit, but that was put together long before the global economy began contracting in March and assumed a full rate increase beginning April 1st.

At the hearing in February the utility's director of financial planning Diane Fraser estimated any delay past April 1 for an NB Power increase would be expensive.
 

Energy and Utilities Board vice-chair Francois Beaulieu said in March a decision on NB Power's application for a 1.9 per cent rate increase on April 1 was "imminent" before the utility applied for a pandemic related suspension. Four months later the increase is still pending. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

"The effect of the delay of an increase roughly I would say its between two and three million dollars per month," said Fraser.

NB Power is under strict instructions by the Higgs government to lower its debt levels significantly by 2027, a directive that the current rate freeze is not helping.
But there are also political issues to be weighed, with a series of byelections, if not a general election, coming by the end of the year.




The province says it is aware of the financial pressure NB Power is under but has other issues to worry about as well.

"As we continue to deal with the pandemic, government is trying to balance the needs of New Brunswickers while keeping its fiscal house in order," said Brown.

"We continue to have discussions with NB Power and recognize the utility's need to recover their costs and not add to their long-term debt."

NB Power has reduced or delayed some capital spending plans for the year, including the temporary suspension of its application to acquire and deploy smart meters in New Brunswick which Brown said has been helping to cut the utility's costs. 



 





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David Amos
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Methinks Nick Brown should fess up and admit that his latest boss Higgy don't care about NB Power raising rates. He is merely trying to inspire the narrative before he has the writ dropped.

Some folks must recall Gallant promising to freeze NB Power's rates during the last election then he took it back  in order to get support from the Greens as he tried to remain the boss. Now Higgy is playing the same game. This is particularly egregious to me after watching Higgy support the NB Power late filing for a rate increase as soon as the PANB allowed him to have the mandate.However the second bid for "Not So Smart" Meters and another rate increase took the cake N'esy Pas?









David Amos
Methinks the EUB and NB Power should also rethink what they did against me during the last hearing N'esy Pas?


David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
When exactly, and where exactly was the last eub meeting?



David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Ask this dude He works for you and I do not

Good afternoon,
It is my recollection that the Brattle presentation session originally scheduled for December 2019 included the opportunity for parties to make a presentation at that session after the Brattle Group presentation had concluded. Can the Board please confirm whether this is still the case for the May 12 session, or are parties limited to providing a written submission per the letter distributed today?
Thank you,
Steve
__________________________________

Stephen A. Waycott
Director, Corporate Regulatory Affairs
New Brunswick Power Corporation 



David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
...and when you write in a question and the eub doesn't bother to answer?

These meetings are done secretly. Why?
How is that in NB's best interest?

Price controls are socialism, and only benifits a very few at the top.


























Alex Butt 
NB power is such a corrupt, mismanaged money making machine that will NEVER change. The only thing Mr thomas et al are interested is taking our hard earned money to cover for all their failings past, present and future all the while collecting huge pay-cheques and bonuses .


David Peters 
Reply to @Alex Butt:
It's a thinly veiled cash cow, patronage appointment scheme, imo



David Amos 
Reply to @Alex Butt: Methinks Mr Jones and everybody else knows that Mr Thomas also asked the EUB not to make a decision about NB Power's second bid for "Not Smart Meters" before he left the scene. However the "et al" remains the same in this ongoing circus within the EUB N'esy Pas?


David Amos 

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Reply to @David Peters: Methinks a lot of folks must get very frustrated after wasting a lot of precious time awaiting moderation by people who purportedly work for us only to see red bar in the end as their words go 'Poof" N'esy Pas?

























David Peters 
NBers would be much better off if the energy market were opened up to free market competition. 
  
Fred Brewer
Reply to @David Peters: I agree. The sad truth is that we were on a path to achieve free market competition but it got derailed. Step one was to separate the transmission business from the generation business and that step was completed by establishing an independent transmission system operator. Step two was to allow competition. The system operator could sell transmission rights to any generator so they could use those transmission lines to sell power directly to end users. Sadly this step never happened and the independent system operator was dissolved and folded back into NB Power. What a waste of time and money.


David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Imagine being able to enter the energy generation sector as a small business...or to be able to invest in a well run local energy production business.

A few ppl have taken this away from NBers and stuck them with a massive bill.



David Amos 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks whereas you claim to know so much I should ask why you did not bother to appear at any of the EUB Hearings and fixed things for us N'esy Pas?


David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
How do you know that eub even bothers to answer email submissions?



David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Is that why the eub meetings timings and locations are kept secret, to avoid having to answer questions?



Fred Brewer 
Reply to @David Peters: Agreed. There is no substitute for open competition. Consumers always win. This has been proven time after time. Having choices is wonderful. When you are unhappy with your internet or cable TV provider, you just switch providers. This is what free, open markets are all about. Monopolies are detrimental to ratepayers and NB Power is proof of that.


Jen Corvec 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: But we haven't got a choice in NB for cable and internet either...just 2 awful companies with horrible service over and over.


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Jen Corvec: You raise a good point but just think how much worse it would be if you had no other option. Then there would be no incentive whatsover to provide better service, more features or better pricing. But if we had two or three more new competitors in NB then you would see a real battle shaping up for your business. That is where a free market would really start to shine. 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: I never said any of that


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Its not my fault i am blocked when i do explain things

























Ben Round
I can't understand why CBC news reader read this on radio with the tone of " poor NB Power can't get their raise" as if we should feel bad for them


David Amos
Reply to @Ben Round: Unions


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos: unicorns


Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: And the problem with unions is???


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: You seem very concerned on the Hydro prices for a hobo 

























 
Terry Tibbs
Isn't this financial shortfall the direct result of investing (gambling) their slush fund and watching their investments shrink by approximately 25%?
Making the moral of the story: don't gamble other people's money.



David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur

























Ben Haroldson
We should sell that outfit.


Fred Brewer
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Agreed. NB Power is the albatross that hangs around the neck of New Brunswick.


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Only because the management team reads like a list of the who is who of patronage appointments.



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
Why sell? It's a business owner's dream. A product everyone wants and needs, and a captive customer base, what could possibly go wrong?
What, in this case, "goes wrong", is the patronage appointments to upper management of a bunch of "do nothings/know nothings", who, out of boredom, get the idea in their heads, that gambling the slush fund is a "good idea".



Alex Butt
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That was tried years ago but the NB sheep cried to save their beloved power company. Now we all pay the price!


Fred Brewer
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I think you are only partially correct. The problem is systemic and flows from the Board of Directors down to senior and middle management. To rectify the problem you would likely need to clean house and replace up to 100 people and we all know that will never happen unless the business is sold. A new owner's first task would be to clean house and they would do it and they would have their own managers who actually know how to operate efficiently and how to make this business profitable on an ongoing basis.


David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I disagree However NB Power should finally be audited and a lot of people need to be held accountable\




Online activist seizes the spotlight with police critique

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Methinks the RCMP should have informed the Saint John politicians and their cops about I handle my concerns about their lack of Integrity within Twitter etc a long time ago N'esy Pas?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-caitlin-grogan-online-activist-spotlight-1.5669341



Online activist seizes the spotlight with police critique

'It's made a change and I'm not going to apologize for that part'


Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jul 31, 2020 6:00 AM AT



Caitlin Grogan said she wasn't looking for attention when she criticized the Saint John Police in a tweet in June. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Caitlin Grogan says she wasn't looking for attention in early June when she dropped an f-bomb on the Saint John Police force.

But that's what she got: attention for her, and for her cause.

That single phrase in a single tweet, "f--- the @saintjohnpolice," made her the most prominent of several new voices forcing themselves into political debates in the city around policing, transit and other issues.

"I don't necessarily feel like I belong in the spotlight," she says. "I haven't done anything of incredible importance. I'm just a person in the community."

On the other hand, in the last eight weeks, "I've had more contact with politicians than I have had in my entire life."
so, the saint john police doesn’t recommend charges for 80% of sexual assault reports? and that’s like... acceptable?

The Saint John police reacted to her tweet by blocking her, but quickly unblocked her.

Since then Grogan has deployed the f-word at least one other time and has told people to "shut up," though she says that was registering disapproval, not trying to silence them.

MP deletes Twitter after debate

She has also got under the skin of some politicians, most notably Saint John-Rothesay Liberal MP Wayne Long.

After a heated online discussion about a photo showing Long on a boat with some friends, one of them holding a beer, the second-term MP deleted his Twitter account.

"Advocacy is important. Waking people up to listen to your message is important," says Long, a prolific social-media user himself.


With a single tweet, Caitlin Grogan put herself at the centre of a political moment in Saint John. She's part of a burst of online activism that politicians have been unable to ignore. 4:53

"But when it leaves issues-based discussion, and turns to personal attacks that's when I think it's counterproductive. And to be perfectly frank, it's destructive."

After Long made similar comments on CBC's Information Morning Saint John last week, Grogan tweeted, "Imagine being the most ineffective MP in history and trying to pick a fight with your most annoying constituent."

Other Saint John politicians haven't pushed back. Coun. David Hickey says social media is "not necessarily the most productive place" to take on politicians, but he says the swirl of debate has been healthy.
 

Saint John MP Wayne Long deleted his Twitter account after a heated debate with Caitin Grogan over a photo. (CBC)

"It's also creating a bigger conversation around what insightful and meaningful engagement means with the community and with community partners."

In a way, it's a story as old as politics, now being told in 140-character bursts on smart phones.


Young activists push for change. Establishment figures get uncomfortable.

Approach criticized

It raises age-old questions: is it better to criticize from the outside or try to work from inside the system? When is it time to stop asking nicely?

"The only reason anyone is paying attention to this right now is because I swore one time at the police," Grogan says. "It's made a change and I'm not going to apologize for that part."

Grogan says the criticism of her approach, that she's too "angry" and needs to smile more, is rarely levelled at male activists, and besides, it's just the "persona" people see online.

"I get [called] angry a lot, which is really surprising, because people who know me personally [know] that is so not me."

Except she is angry, she says in the next breath, about the number of sexual assault cases labelled "unfounded," for example.

"I think you have to be angry," she says. "I think if you're not angry you're not paying enough attention to what's happening."

Grogan has a lighter side. She tweeted at Mayor Don Darling that the city should buy Theodore the Tugboat, which Halifax officials put up for sale this summer.

Changes needed

But it's making change that drives her, and that's where it's harder to measure her impact.

She mentions that the email addresses for members of the Saint John Board of Police Commissioners are now listed online, and that the Kennebecasis Regional Police Force plans to pilot a civilian sexual assault review process.

Grogan used the provincial right-to-information law to get a breakdown of the different reasons the city police cited for not laying charges after sexual assault complaints.

Those are tiny steps that raise other eternal political questions: how fast is fast enough when it comes to change? How rapidly can it happen without triggering a backlash and endangering progress?

"I'm like the instant gratification generation," Grogan says. "'We want change and we want it now.'"
 

Saint John city Coun. David Hickey said the debate has been healthy and is creating a bigger conversation around what insightful and meaningful engagement means. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

She recognizes that's not always realistic. She says it was unfair for another Twitter user to slam Saint John Mayor Don Darling for not defunding the police immediately.

"But at the same time …  while it may take years for the Saint John city council to substantially cut the police force budget, it would not take them years to at least acknowledge that that's something they want to look at or will look at."

Not interested in politics

Of course, Twitter isn't real life. It's not as widely used as other social media platforms, and it can be an echo chamber for politicians, activists and journalists.

Real decisions happen in real life.

"I had a lot of people reach out to me and ask if I was going to put my name forward to the police board or if I was going to run in the next municipal election," Grogan says.

"Both of those are resounding no's. That's not the way I want to make a difference right now. When you're working from the inside you have a lot more power but you also have a lot more rules that are put upon you."

Other like-minded activists are taking the plunge, though.

Courtney Pyrke, a board member of the new activist group Flip Saint John, recently applied for a vacant spot on the police board and several other municipal bodies.

"When Don Darling and Wayne Long and those politicians said, 'Why don't you do something?' I looked up what positions were open and I put my name forward because I think they have a point," Pyrke said.

Progressive activism

Flip Saint John was formed by a group of progressive activists who found each other online and decided to work together.

The group recently tweeted that it wants to avoid online bullying and was working on a code of conduct for its board members.

"We want to take these, as people would describe it, 'angry voices' or 'angry people online,' and turn that into something more productive," Pyrke said, adding, "I didn't see an issue with how Cait expressed her concerns or the things that she was recognizing."
 

While she's not interested in being on the police commission board or running for municipal politics, Grogan is learning more about how government works. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Darling says the debate sparked by Grogan, Flip Saint John and Black Lives Matter has prompted an "uptick" in the applications for vacant spots on the police board.

"So I am confident at the end of this we'll have a stronger police commission when we're done," he says.

Grogan, meanwhile, says she has gained a more detailed understanding of how government institutions work.

"Today I'm going to sit through a growth committee meeting and learn about an affordable housing strategy for the city," she says. "Prior to all of this I wouldn't have known that the city was even looking to create an affordable housing strategy."

Despite Grogan's better appreciation of how slow-moving governments can be, and despite the blowback, "I would say things seem more possible" than they were before that first tweet, she says.

"It's shown that there is sort of a new type of politics coming, some new engagement. Young people are 'aging up' to the age now that they're able to vote and get involved, and there is that generational change."

About the Author


Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


 


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David Amos
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Methinks the RCMP should have informed the Saint John politicians and their cops about I handle my concerns about their lack of Integrity within Twitter etc a long time ago N'esy Pas? 


Ray Oliver
Call me Darlin we will blow the whistle together.. LOL. Yeah. I'm a bad person








David Amos   
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Methinks CBC, Wayne Long, the Saint John Cops and the RCMP should admit that when it comes politicking withinTwitter the little lady does not hold a candle to mean old me N'esy Pas?
 
 
Dan Stewart 
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Reply to @David Amos: Any CBC articles about you lately Dave?


David Peters
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Reply to @Dan Stewart:
All this article is about is an f bomb dropping...in the meantime, our regions small and medium-sized businesses are reporting that their businesses are quickly becoming unsustainable.



David Amos
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Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks you should ask yourself why there NEVER has been N'esy Pas?


Dan Stewart
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Reply to @David Amos: I am pretty sure I know why
Dave... You, maybe not so much.....



Harvey York
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Reply to @Dan Stewart: we all know why


David Amos 
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Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks it follows that you dudes also know why it is illegal that they didn't N'esy Pas?


Dan Stewart 
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Reply to @David Peters: I agree that it is in fact more about the expletive used than anything else and that's actually a sad commentary on much social media these days.
Our economic woes while always a struggle here have most certainly suffered because of the world wide pandemic.. But that's not what this article is about.










SarahRose Werner
A tweet that does nothing but drop the F-bomb on a group or individual is not activism. It's just complaining. By reacting so strongly to this particular complaint, politicians have encouraged more of the same. If you want to make change, first learn how things work.


David Amos 
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you think the young lady doth protest too much N'esy Pas?












Matt Steele
Yep , certainly sounds like a product of the N.B. School System . Sounds like someone who would throw a hissy fit by cursing and swearing at a teacher , then threaten the teacher with a false allegation if they can't get their way . Society teaches them well .


David Amos 
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Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks you and I were schooled by the same system So who are you to judge the young lady's actions merely because the corporate media and the politicians noticed her words and not yours N'esy Pas?











Aloysius McGillicuddy
Calling someone the "most ineffective MP in history" is not activism. It is Trumpism. Back in the day, people used to write "letters to the editor". The editor would decide what was reasonable enough to print. Now anyone with a smart phone gets the mic. And they often have no expertise. So if 80% is not acceptable, what is? 81%? 85%? There was no discussion of the results of the access to information and why there were not charges. Should people be tried without evidence? Should we spend time on trials where there is zero chance of conviction and clog up our legal system even more? This kind of twitter "activism" is just not constructive, its just yet another loudmouth getting attention.


David Amos 
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Reply to @Aloysius McGillicuddy: Methinks you should know that much to the chagrin of many a cop I used to consume your Menthol Mint concoction by the gallon N'esy Pas?









James Risdon
Ever think that maybe a lot of cases actually are unfounded or do not have sufficient evidence to move forward? Ever think that maybe the police are actually doing their jobs?


David Amos 
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Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks its time for your nap and have sweet dreams about KISS Party days N'esy Pas?


Steve Ryan 
Reply to @James Risdon:
You want her to think? No, people like her don't think, they just tweet.



James Risdon 
Reply to @Steve Ryan: Well, maybe she's capable of deep thought but was simply expressing a quick reaction at the time. I don't know her so I can't say.











Mac Isaac
In previous generations the norm for entry into politics was to become involved in some sort of community organization; then that involvement matured to that of community leadership and then on to elected office. Like most people my age, we WANT younger people to be engaged in their communities. Maybe this method of engaging through social media is as good a method as how it was formerly done but one thing I do know is either way requires a good foundation and education on the issues and the practicalities of your methodologies. Such blanket statements as "f--- @saintjohn police" needs some reflection on how effective such antagonism can be to the goal of improving/changing those things you want improved/changed. Such statements will most certainly make you visible but, at some point, you will need cooperation from some of the very people you've alienated.


David Amos 
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Reply to @Mac Isaac: Methinks Trudeau the Younger broke that mold N'esy Pas?











Justin Gunther   
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Why would you give the CBC access to frame your story? You don't have to want to run for office to point out the obvious, or serve as a necessary vehicle of catharsis when police get out of hand, or criticize what is manifestly stupid about politics, government and its different departments.


You don't need to do those things because nobody put guns to the heads of the people currently working these jobs. They took high profile jobs that attract criticism. That's on them.

Cute though. The tactic, I mean. Oh dear what have I done..



David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: What have you done?










Jake Newman
why doesn't she put her name forth for the police commission, why doesn't she become a police officer---oh wait easier to criticize


Winston Gray
Reply to @Jake Newman: says the guy commenting on a CBC article about how easy it is to “do something”


Ronald Parker
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Reply to @Jake Newman: As you just proved, it is easy to criticize.


Justin Gunther 
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Reply to @Ronald Parker: Much easier to have blue wall task forces than public inquiries as well.


Terry Saxton 
Reply to @Jake Newman: so to criticize you have to be a policeman, commissioner ,can’t do it as an ordinary citizen, what country are you from?


David Amos 
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Reply to @Jake Newman: What is it you do that is so special?


SarahRose Werner 
Reply to @Jake Newman: Given that Grogan is only now gaining "a more detailed understanding of how government institutions work," I'm glad to hear that she doesn't plan to join the police commission at this time. She's not ready.










Larry Larson
Time to replace the Saint John force with cops who want to do the work!


David Amos
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Reply to @Larry Larson: Dream On


Larry Larson
Reply to @David Amos: Hey! Les rêves sont bons!











Douglas James
Long is quoted as saying: "But when (social media) leaves issues-based discussion, and turns to personal attacks that's when I think it's counterproductive. And to be perfectly frank, it's destructive."

When I raised an issue about the census snooping into private lives, this MP sat on the sidelines and gleefully watched live as his principal assistant tried to publicly humiliate me on social media.

Wayne Long is a hypocrite.



Tom Simmons  
Reply to @Douglas James: of course he is, it's part of being a liberal.


Winston Gray 
Reply to @Tom Simmons: better than a Crookservative


Tom Simmons  
Reply to @Winston Gray: In Canada, LIB / Cons are two sides of the same coin. We don't have real conservative party here.


Winston Gray 
Reply to @Tom Simmons: is that a veiled way of saying that the conservative values you hold dear are so heinous that no party represents those values? Good to know.


Tom Simmons 
Reply to @Winston Gray: No I'm saying both the Liberal Party...and the Conservative Party (both are left of center, liberal are farther left) are one and the same. Really look at the platforms, it's the same.


Dan Stewart: 
Reply to @Tom Simmons: Not having "a real Conservitve party here" Is this government's saving grace. Now if the Federal party could figure that out we would all be in a better place.


David Amos 
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Reply to @Douglas James: "Wayne Long is a hypocrite"
Methinks many would agree that he is worse than that N''esy Pas?



David Peters  
Reply to @Tom Simmons:
The only party that offers a different platform, that's reasonable imo, is the libertarian party.



Aloysius McGillicuddy 
Reply to @Douglas James: A census does not snoop. It collects data that can be turned into information so that we have more effective public policy. So anti-"snoopers" are misguided and supporting ideological rather than scientific public policy. This is ruining the country. There's many protections of data anonymity in the collection of census data.








Ian Scott
Its one thing to sit and type nasties to people on a screen, its another to come out in the community and say things face to face or in a committee when maybe not everyone shares your ideas and to get your point across pleasantly and with statistics and reality to back you up.


James Smythe 
Reply to @Ian Scott: Have you ever tried to schedule a face to face meeting with a politician, especially one higher up the food chain? It’s near impossible. There’s almost no accountability anymore. I commend this young lady for taking a free app and making her voice heard. Is it sad that’s what it’s come to? Of course, but the burden of arriving here does not rest solely on her shoulders.


David Amos 
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Reply to @Ian Scott: Methinks Mr Long and his cop buddies must admit that I am not afraid of running for public office and suing the Crown as well N'esy Pas?


Al Clark 
Reply to @David Amos: You couldn't run 30 feet for a doughnut! ;-)


Al Clark 
Reply to @David Amos: To sue you have to fill out a form and pay a fee. Emails don't count.












Ben Haroldson 
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The be nice approach NEVER works.



David Amos   
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Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I know that to be a FACT OF LIFE


David Peters 
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Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
It does with nice, reasonable ppl, but many of those simply leave here. 







 

Gil Murray
Lots of people like attention. Activist and politician - same coin different side.


Ken Dwight 
Reply to @Gil Murray: Or people commenting on social media boards. We post comments because we want the attention, so what's the difference?


David Amos  
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Reply to @Ken Dwight: Methinks the big difference is I comment on social media boards in order to support my litigation N'esy Pas?











Michael G. L. Geraldson
Never underestimate the power of social media, or a woman's wrath!


David Amos 
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Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: Oh So True
 









Matt Steele
Ms. Grogan , like everyone else , has an opinion , but very little will change . Sadly , N.B. is one of the poorest provinces in Canada , with one of the lowest ranked education systems , highest unemployment rates , oldest populations , and nepotism in govt. hiring that is out of control ; .and other than the population getting even older , I have not seen any of these things change in the last 40 years . Ms. Grogan is young and idealistic , but as she gets older , she will learn what the reality really is in N.B. ; and then she must accept that she can stay , or she can go....and many folks who want to be successful have chosen to leave N.B.


David Amos   
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Reply to @Matt Steele: How should we regard your constant opinions?








Chris Merriam
Yeah, she's a real hero.


David Amos  
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Reply to @Chris Merriam: If you say so


Chris Merriam 
Reply to @David Amos: Time for you to go to bed, little guy. I think you've had enough internet for today.


Harvey York 
Reply to @Chris Merriam: it's the end of the month. Needs to go cash his cheque and refill his meds.


David Amos  
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Reply to @Chris Merriam: Methinks its interesting that two RCMP shills followed me to a far more important story today that has been long delayed in closing much to the chagrin of Mr Long et al N'esy Pas?










David Peters
This is sort of interesting, but, what about the letter the local hotel association sent to city council on Monday night? A 5% occupancy rate? What have we allowed a few authoritarian's to do to our economy?


Winston Gray
Reply to @David Peters: the only authoritarianism in this country is being committed by the UCP in Alberta.


David Amos 
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Reply to @Winston Gray: Yea Right


David Peters 
Reply to @Winston Gray:
What's an example of ucp policy that's authoritarian?