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Auditor general's report made school bus drivers look 'unprofessional,' union says

 
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Auditor general's report made school bus drivers look 'unprofessional,' union says

Iris Lloyd says drivers treat students as 'precious cargo,' but personnel files are not up to date

Two students walking off of a bus
The union representing New Brunswick school bus drivers says student safety is paramount. (CBC)

The union representing New Brunswick school bus drivers is speaking out about safety concerns Auditor General Paul Martin raised in a report last week.

Martin's office audited files of 65 drivers, and found 46 per cent of the files did not demonstrate compliance with licensing requirements, 37 per cent did not have proof of bus training from when they were hired, and one in five did not have a criminal record check on file.

Iris Lloyd, president of CUPE Local 1253, which represents about 900 school bus drivers, says the report brought to light some issues that drivers have faced for years, but the personnel files are not up to date and aren't an accurate reflection of driver qualifications.

"The school bus drivers are bringing in their licence or bringing in their abstracts or doing their criminal record checks, but the files aren't being kept up to date," she said.

"So it made the bus drivers look like they were unprofessional and aren't doing their job, when, in fact, they are."

Iris Lloyd poses for a photo
Iris Lloyd, president of CUPE Local 1253 says the auditor general's report poorly represents school bus drivers. (Jacques Poitras/CBC News)

When presenting his report last Tuesday, Martin said the province has 107,000 schoolchildren and 78 per cent of them are bused to school. He said non-compliance with rules related to bus safety "could increase the risk of endangering a vulnerable population."

Education Minister Bill Hogan was questioned about the report in the legislature that day.

He said his department takes the findings seriously and is going to work with school districts to ensure that records for school bus drivers are current and include all the drivers' required documentation, including declarations for drivers over 65 that they are medically fit to work.

CBC News requested a response from the Department of Education on Wednesday about the union's comments, but one was not provided.

Martin said last week that "none of the tested school districts demonstrated full compliance with legislation and policy."

Paul Martin sits at a desk with microphones around him.
Auditor General Paul Martin released a report last week that included findings fro an audit of 65 school bus driver files. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

CBC News also asked the anglophone school districts for a comment. Anglophone East, South and North did not respond before publication, and Anglophone West superintendent David McTimoney directed questions to the Education Department.

Recruitment, retention lacking

Martin's report also said the department and districts expressed concern about recruitment and retention of bus drivers. He wrote that although the department began work on a provincial strategy, no targets were set and the strategy was on hold at the time of the audit.

Lloyd echoed the recruitment and retention issues, not just among bus drivers, but school custodians and mechanics too.

A closeup of a man with glasses and a goatee.
Education Minister Bill Hogan said last week that his department will work with school districts to ensure that records for school bus drivers are kept up to date. (Jacques Poitras / CBC)

"We have been dealing with it at provincial labour-management level, but nothing has come to our table on a bargaining level to really address recruitment and retention," she said.

"The majority of these school buses are running six hours, six-and-a-half-hour runs, and for young people, it's very hard to try to raise a family on six and six-and-a-half hours a day,

"The wages just aren't there. So we recruit them, but we can't retain them."

Lloyd said she wants parents to rest assured that the people driving the school buses are professionals, despite missing paperwork in their files. 

She also said they take their jobs very seriously.

"The safety of the students is our only priority when we get out there and drive those buses," she said.

"When I say they are driving the most precious cargo in the province, we truly mean that as school bus drivers."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Hannah Rudderham is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick. She grew up in Cape Breton, N.S., and moved to Fredericton in 2018. You can send story tips to hannah.rudderham@cbc.ca.

With files from Information Morning Fredericton



5 Comments

David Amos 
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It appears to me that CUPE Local 1253 has another new president
 
 
David Amos
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I bet Jamie Agnew still curses me 
 
 
Al Clark 
Well, one of higgy's 5 minute investigations should solve this, but he has other priorities.  
 
 
Sylvester Pheelyne 
"Lloyd said she wants parents to rest assured that the people driving the school buses are professionals, despite missing paperwork in their files."

Okay, so what are they going to do about the people who are supposed to ensure the files are up to date? Who is responsible for this?

As to whether the 'people driving the school buses are professionals', prove it.

 
JOhn D Bond 
It appears that there are multiple things happening here. The biggest the union laying the foundation, that these roles that currently require 6 ish hours per day, be compensated more because "The majority of these school buses are running six hours, six-and-a-half-hour runs, and for young people, it's very hard to try to raise a family on six and six-and-a-half hours a day,.

These actually are or should be part time jobs. Lets make sure we don't try to make something out to be more than it is.

While critically important that the right skills be available for the safe transport of the children. The way to accomplish that is to tighten up recruiting. Not allow people with missing credentials to get behind the wheel. Disallow third party agencies and government agencies from making exceptions. For an employee that does, and it is confirmed that they bypassed the rules, fire them. For a third party agency, ban them from doing business with the government. 

 
Chuck Gendron 
The entry level for the job is a spare that might only get called one or twice a week and might stay a spare for 2 years or more. It is like working in the hospitals the entry level is casual. The unions are the ones who keep it that way, saying " I had to go trough it so you should too" this is not progressive and CUPE NB is very non progressive. On top of that there is a lot of "back stabbing" between drivers. As for record keeping we have a bureaucatice culture in education and health who beleive in just putting in their 7.5 hours a day and no more. Our problems are a reflection of our society.  
 
 
Allan Marven 
Slackness all around is the name of the game these days. Covid is gone . Get with it people. 
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/schools-reopen-monday-tentative-agreement-1.6248561

Schools to reopen Monday after province, CUPE reach tentative agreement

Schools moved to online learning on Nov. 1 after province locked out
striking education workers
Miriam Lafontaine · CBC News · Posted: Nov 14, 2021 12:08 PM AT

CUPE workers are shown striking in Fredericton on Oct. 31. New
Brunswick reached a tentative deal with the union on Saturday;
students are expected to return to classrooms in the coming days.
(Mrinali Anchan/CBC)

Schools in New Brunswick will reopen on Monday after the provincial
government reached a tentative agreement with the Canadian Union of
Public Employees late Saturday.

"I know that the last couple of weeks have been challenging for
students and parents," Premier Blaine Higgs said in a press conference
Sunday. "There's no replacement for in-classroom learning."

More than 22,000 public sector workers are now expected to return to
work after being on strike for more than two weeks.

Tentative agreements were reached Saturday night with seven of the
union's locals, Higgs said.

Schools closed on Oct. 29 and moved to online learning after about
3,000 workers that included custodians, bus drivers, school library
assistants and administrative support went on strike.

Community colleges, where CUPE workers are also employed, are expected
to reopen to students on Tuesday.

    N.B. government locks out 3,000 CUPE workers as strike enters Day 3

"I'm optimistic," Higgs added. "I really believe people want to get
back to work."

Higgs declined to comment on contract terms.

CUPE New Brunswick president Steve Drost said negotiations over the
past few days have been painful and tedious, but he's excited to
present it to workers after everything they went through.

"Both sides were able to make compromises in the best interest of the
province," he said.

The new wage offer will allow workers to keep up with cost of living
in the province, he said. The 10 locals involved in strike action will
be voting this week, with votes expected to wrap up by Friday.
Steve Drost, the president of CUPE New Brunswick, at a press
conference last weekend. He described the negotiations as 'painful and
tedious.' (CBC)

"I think that we've been able to achieve labour peace for New
Brunswick. I'm very confident that we've made some historic gains here
for workers," Drost said. "I couldn't be prouder of the workers."

Both parties have also reached an agreement regarding pension plans
that were being offered to locals 2745 and 1253, Drost said.

    Striking health-care workers back to work in N.B. after province
invokes emergency order

    CUPE takes province to court over back-to-work emergency order

Previously the premier had been demanding the locals convert their
pension plans into the shared-risk system already in place for most
other provincial employees, a major sticking point in the labour
dispute.

"We were able to achieve language in terms of a memorandum of
understanding on that, whereby it's not necessarily a conversion to
shared risk," Drost said.

A union led court challenge regarding the back to work order that
forced more than 2,000 health-care workers back to work on Nov. 6
scheduled for Monday is still going ahead, he said. The premier has
since confirmed the order has been revoked.

"We have to ensure that people's rights weren't violated," Drost said.
N.B. Liquor stores staying open

A tentative agreement between the province and the local representing
workers with N.B. Liquor was also reached Saturday evening, its
president said.

The workers previously were set to take strike action by Tuesday if a
deal couldn't be reached over the weekend, which would have shuttered
stores.
Jamie Agnew, the president of Local 963, at a press conference last
Tuesday, said the negotiating team is 'very happy' to have reached a
tentative agreement for N.B Liquor workers. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

"The negotiating team is very happy. We're glad to have this done,"
said Jamie Agnew, the president of Local 963.

He wants the public to know there's no need to panic buy. Provincewide
sales reached $2 million on the Wednesday before Remembrance Day, he
said, well over projections of around $500,000.

    N.B. Liquor employees poised to strike a week from now if deal not reached

A prior tentative agreement had been reached between the union and
management a year ago.

"We thought we had a tentative agreement in November of 2020, but that
was squashed by Mr. Higgs, so we had to go through this process again,
and ended up taking a strike vote," Agnew said.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Miriam Lafontaine

Miriam Lafontaine is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in
Fredericton. She's originally from Montreal, and can be reached at
miriam.lafontaine@cbc.ca.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cupe-lawsuite-province-back-to-work-emergency-order-1.6249333

CUPE waiting for ratification to decide whether to continue lawsuit
against province

Emergency hearing scheduled for Monday cancelled in light of tentative
contract agreement

Hadeel Ibrahim · CBC News · Posted: Nov 15, 2021 2:48 PM AT | Last
Updated: November 15

Joël Michaud, a lawyer for CUPEs, says the union is waiting for the
result of the public-sector workers' vote on a tentative agreement
before deciding what to do about the lawsuit filed against the
province. (Shane Magee/CBC)

The Canadian Union of Public Employees is not abandoning its court
challenge of the province's use of emergency legislation to force
striking health-care staff back to work.

CUPE had asked for an emergency hearing Monday to put a pause on the
emergency order while its legality was decided.

But because staff went back to work after negotiators reached a
tentative agreement over the weekend, the emergency hearing was
adjourned.

Union lawyer Joël Michaud said that while the emergency hearing is
cancelled, the legal challenge is still on.

"It's certainly on, at least until ratification," he said. "If the
hospital-sector's members don't ratify, then we're right back to
square one."

    CUPE takes province to court over back-to-work emergency order

    Parents relieved children are back in school, but it may take time
to get back to routine

On Sunday, CUPE and the province separately announced a temporary end
to the two-week strike by 22,000 public-sector employees, including
school bus drivers, educational support staff and workers in
transportation, corrections and the community college system.

The employees will vote on a tentative agreement with the government
this week and decide Friday if the strike is over or if they will go
back on the picket lines.
Health-care workers out for a shorter time

Some support staff in the health-care sector were part of the strike
for a week but were ordered back to work by the province on Nov. 7.

Attorney General Ted Flemming imposed an emergency order that said if
any of them continued to strike, they could face thousands of dollars
in fines. And the "employee organization" they're a member of would be
fined a minimum of $100,000, with no maximum limit, for each day they
don't comply.

In its challenge, CUPE alleged the order contravened the workers'
right to freedom of association and to belong to a certain
organization. They also alleged the fines exceeded what's allowed
through the Emergency Measures Act, and constitutes "cruel and unusual
punishment," which also contravenes the Charter or Rights.

    Schools to reopen Monday after province, CUPE reach tentative agreement

    New Brunswick CUPE members to return to work as they vote on
tentative agreement

Michaud said that even if the agreement is accepted, the union may
continue the challenge to get clarity on whether using the province's
Emergency Measures Act to stop a strike is legal in general.

"There may be, you know, long-term utility in having a decision for
all parties involved, frankly, for government as well," Michaud said.
"There could be … a pretty clear statement of the court as to whether
or not acting this way was legal.

Or the union could abandon the challenge, Michaud said. The union has
yet to decide what to do.

Even if CUPE wants to go ahead, Michaud said, the court could decide
that the issue is moot if the order is permanently lifted.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Hadeel Ibrahim

Hadeel Ibrahim is a CBC reporter based in Saint John. She can be
reached at hadeel.ibrahim@cbc.ca

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> Subject: RE: "NB Power will operate like a business, free from
> political interference, but nothing could be further from the truth,"
> said Green party leader David Coon
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/changes-nb-information-law-alarm-bell-1.6251224
>
>
> Changes to New Brunswick information law 'an alarm bell,' critics say
>
> Amendments give minister power to apply different rules in different
> circumstances
> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Nov 17, 2021 6:00 AM AT
>
> Treasury Board Minister Ernie Steeves says a proposed change in New
> Brunswick's right-to-information law would speed up the process, but
> some say it gives too much power to his office to decide how requests
> are processed. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
>
> The Higgs government is giving itself the power to direct how
> departments and other public bodies process requests for documents and
> records, including the ability to apply different rules depending on
> the circumstances.
>
> Treasury Board Minister Ernie Steeves describes the proposed
> amendments to the Right to Information and Protection of Privacy Act
> as making the process more efficient.
>
> He said they will address "gaps, unclear wording and overly complex
> procedures" to help speed up the process of responding to the public's
> requests for information.
>
> But the bill will also give him the authority to tell government
> departments and other public bodies covered by the law, such as
> municipalities, how to process requests.
>
> The bill lets a Treasury Board minister "establish directives and
> guidelines setting out the requirements to be met" by the entities
> fielding requests.
>
> What's more, it lets the minister decide if a directive is "general or
> specific" and lets him or her decide whether the rules "may apply
> differently in different circumstances."
> This version of a briefing note released by FacilicorpNB to a lobby
> group is heavily blacked out. The same document released earlier by
> the Department of Health to CBC News did not contain the same
> redactions. (CBC)
>
> That's "an alarm bell," according to retired CBC journalist Dean
> Beeby, an expert in access-to-information laws.
>
> "When unspecified power and responsibilities are being given to a
> senior official of government, it can be so easily abused," Beeby
> said.
>
> "Why are there no guardrails on this? Why is it so open-ended?"
>
> Ombud Charles Murray said letting the minister apply different rules
> of disclosure in different situations creates a risk.
>
> "The risk is that the minister will make arbitrary decisions or will
> be suspected of making arbitrary decisions," said Murray, who fields
> complaints from the public when the province doesn't provide what's
> been requested.
>
> "To me, this amendment suggests that the minister be given more leeway
> to make those decisions as he or she feels fit."
> Retired CBC journalist Dean Beeby calls the decision to give
> unspecified powers to the Treasury Board minister 'an alarm bell.'
> (CBC)
>
> The act is used by journalists, watchdog groups, opposition parties
> and other citizens to request government documents.
>
> But the legislation is full of exemptions and procedures that often
> slow down or prevent release of what's being sought.
>
> Steeves said the amendment is there to clarify the process for
> departments and other public bodies and speed up release, not to
> further restrict information.
>
> "It's not like the minister can take the information and say 'No, you
> can't do this,'" he said.
>
> The province's chief information officer, Liz Byrne-Zwicker, said the
> minister doesn't have the legal authority to provide guidance or
> directives under the existing law. But some other public bodies
> covered by the act, like municipalities, can benefit from that help.
>
> "We would be responding to what they tell us is going to make sense
> and work best for them," she said.
>
> "The intention here is to bring consistency to interpretation and the
> way things are done as much as possible."
>
> For example, that could include clarifying what is meant by a
> duplicate document under the act, she said. Under the amendments,
> duplicate copies of the same document no longer have to be released.
> No protection from abuse
>
> Beeby said there's no long-term guarantee future ministers won't use
> the new section of the act to slow the release of controversial
> information.
>
> "With all the goodwill in the world, maybe this minister will not
> abuse that power, but there are future governments that may have a
> different view."
>
> Murray said a more efficient right-to-information system is not an end
> in itself.
>
> "The most efficient right to information system possible would be one
> that gave people no right to information," he said.
>
>     'Have you heard anything from Andy C?' Hidden name in government
> emails about Irving Oil revealed
>
>     Analysis
>     Access delayed, access denied: Here's why P.E.I's information
> system is broken
>
>     This MLA obtained 1,150 pages about N.B.'s airport study. All but
> 100 were blacked out
>
> "So we have to recognize that efficiency isn't the only value here."
>
> And he said the risk in giving a minister more discretion is that the
> public will lose trust in the government when information is held
> back.
>
> "Public trust, we are finding out in this pandemic, is one of the key
> determinants of how effective your anti-pandemic measures will be. If
> you're not trusted, the measures won't be accepted by the populace and
> they won't be effective."
>
> The bill received second reading in the legislature on Nov. 12 and was
> sent to a committee for more debate.
>
> Charles Murray, New Brunswick’s ombud and information and privacy
> commissioner, says the change creates the risk that the minister could
> make arbitrary decisions on right-to-information requests. (Nicolas
> Steinbach/Radio-Canada)
>
> Murray said in the past, a bill like this would have gone to the law
> amendments committee for public hearings where witnesses like him
> could appear.
>
> But the government opted to send the bill to the economic policy
> committee instead, the clearing-house for most government legislation
> with no public hearings and witnesses.
>
> During the second reading debate last week, Opposition MLAs said the
> bill was the latest effort to erode the public's right to information.
>
> "Every government since I can recall, since the introduction of our
> right-to-information legislation, has chipped away at this act and
> diminished people's right to information," said Green Party Leader
> David Coon, who's been using the act for almost four decades.
>
> Liberal MLAs pointed out that one of their members, Bathurst
> West-Beresford's René Legacy, received 1,150 pages of documents on a
> provincial airport study but 1,050 of those pages were redacted.
>
> "It's a wonder if there are any black markers left in the department,"
> said Liberal Treasury Board critic Rob McKee.
> Green Party Leader David Coon, who has been making
> right-to-information requests for decades, says successive governments
> have chipped away at the act over the years. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
>
> Other elements of the bill appear to be benign attempts to make the
> process work better, such as clarifying that a department no longer
> has to send multiple copies of the same document.
>
> If someone makes a request to the wrong department, that department
> will now have the legal authority to transfer it to the appropriate
> department rather than telling the requestor to start over themselves.
>
> But other sections will let the government extend or suspend the
> normal 30-day time limit for responding to a request when a third
> party has to be consulted on releasing information about them.
>
> Byrne-Zwicker said third parties, such as private companies
> communicating with the province, have rights under the act and the new
> provisions will help protect those rights.
>
> Beeby said long delays lead to information being released long after
> it's timely or relevant.
>
> "There's a tendency to drag these things out as long as possible," he
> said. "We don't want to hear about problems two governments down the
> line. We need to hear about them now, while they can still be
> corrected."
>
>
> ABOUT THE AUTHOR
> Jacques Poitras
>
> Provincial Affairs reporter
>
> Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
> Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC
> political podcast Spin Reduxit.
>
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices|
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 15:45:59 +0000
> Subject: RE: "NB Power will operate like a business, free from
> political interference, but nothing could be further from the truth,"
> said Green party leader David Coon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 10:47 AM
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> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Subject: "NB Power will operate like a business, free from political
> interference, but nothing could be further from the truth," said Green
> party leader David Coon
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2021/11/mikey-hollands-very-sneaky-stinky-bill.html
>
> Saturday, 13 November 2021
> MIKEY HOLLAND'S VERY SNEAKY STINKY BILL 77 An Act to Amend the
> Electricity Act Read first time: November 10, 2021
>
>
> https://www.greenpartynb.ca/bill_39_keeps_the_politics_in_nb_power
>
>
> Bill 39 Keeps the Politics in NB Power
> Posted by Merredith Brewer 341sc on May 22, 2013
>
> 22 MAY 2013
>
> Bill 39, the proposed new Electricity Act, was debated yesterday in
> the Legislature during second reading. The Green Party says the debate
> overlooked the key problem with Bill 39. It fails to keep the politics
> out of NB Power.
>
> "Energy Minister Craig Leonard claims that Bill 39 will ensure that NB
> Power will operate like a business, free from political interference,
> but nothing could be further from the truth,"   said Green party
> leader David Coon. "The dirty little secret is that Cabinet will still
> be in the driver's seat when it comes to determining the most
> important costs associated with running the electrical utility, and
> the costs determine the price of electricity," said Coon.
>
> Unlike provinces such as Nova Scotia, Bill 39 requires NB Power to
> have its business plan, the Integrated Resource Plan, reviewed and
> approved by the provincial cabinet every three years rather than by
> the Energy and Utilities Board (EUB). Furthermore, while proposals for
> costly refurbishments or new power plants will be reviewed by the EUB,
> Cabinet retains the authority to make the final decision.
>
> "Bill 39 gives Cabinet a direct role in approving NB Power
> expenditures, which determine the price the utility must charge for
> its electricity," said Coon. "Bill 39 keeps the politics in NB Power
> which is why the Green Party has been demanding it be sent to
> committee for public hearings," said the Green Party leader.
>
>
>  > Dear Ms.  Mitchell,
>>
>> In relation to the Public Interest Hearing scheduled for Monday, November
>> 15, 2021, please find attached correspondence on behalf of NB Power.
>>
>> For convenience, the link referred to in my correspondence is reproduced
>> below:
>>
>> https://www.gnb.ca/legis/bill/pdf/60/1/Bill-77.pdf
>> <https://www.gnb.ca/legis/bill/pdf/60/1/Bill-77.pdf>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> John Furey
>> Counsel
>> McInnes Cooper
>>
>> tel +1 (506) 458 1628 | fax +1 (506) 458 9903 | mobile +1 (506) 282
>> 0380
>>
>> Barker House, Suite 600
>> 570 Queen Street
>> PO Box 610 Fredericton, NB, E3B 5A6
>>
>> asst Nanette Phillips | +1 (506) 458 1629
>>
>
> 1st Session, 60th Legislature
> New Brunswick
> 69-70 Elizabeth II, 2020-2021
>
> BILL 77
> An Act to Amend the Electricity Act
>
> Read first time: November 10, 2021
>
> Read second time:
>
> Committee:
>
> Read third time:
>
> HON. MIKE HOLLAND
>
>
> Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative
> Assembly of New Brunswick, enacts as follows:
>
> 1. Section 1 of the Electricity Act, chapter 7 of the Acts of New
> Brunswick, 2013, is amended
>
> PART 1.1
> HOLDING CORPORATION
>
> Establishment, board of directors, officers and employees
>
> 2.1(1) There is established a corporation with share capital under the
> name New Brunswick Power Holding Corporation consisting of those
> persons who compose the board of directors.
>
> TRANSITIONAL AND COMMENCEMENT DISPOSITIONS
>
> No filing of strategic, financial and capital investment plan
>
> 42 Despite subsection 101(1) of the Electricity Act, as that
> subsection existed on September 1, 2021, the New Brunswick Power
> Corporation shall not file a strategic, financial and capital
> investment plan covering the period of 10 fiscal years commencing on
> April 1, 2022, and ending on March 31, 2032.
>
>
> No application for rate approval
>
> 43 Despite subsection 103(1) of the Electricity Act, as that
> subsection existed on September 1, 2021, the New Brunswick Power
> Corporation shall not make an application to the New Brunswick Energy
> and Utilities Board for approval of the New Brunswick Power
> Corporation’s schedules of rates it proposes to charge for its
> services referred to in section 102 of that Act for the fiscal year
> which commences on April 1, 2022.
>
> Rates – 2022-2023 fiscal year
>
> 44(1) For the fiscal year which commences on April 1, 2022, the New
> Brunswick Power Corporation may impose, across all rate classes, a
> uniform increase of not more than 2% in the rates it charges for the
> services referred to in section 102 of the Electricity Act without
> making an application to the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
> for approval of the increase.
>
> 44(2) The New Brunswick Power Corporation shall file new schedules of
> rates for its services referred to in section 102 of the Electricity
> Act with the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board within 30 days
> before any increase in the rates is made under subsection (1).
>
> 44(3) When filing new schedules with the New Brunswick Energy and
> Utilities Board in relation to any increase in the rates under
> subsection (1), the New Brunswick Power Corporation shall include in
> the schedules the date the authorization was given by the board of
> directors of the New Brunswick Power Corporation to increase the
> rates.
>
>
> 44(4) For the purposes of the Electricity Act, an increase in rates
> made under subsection (1) shall be deemed to be approved by the New
> Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board under Division B of Part 6 of
> that Act.
>
> 45(1) Paragraphs 1(a), (b), (c), (d), (e) and (g) and
> 32(e) and sections 2 to 29, 34, 37, 40 and 41 of this Act come into
> force on April 1, 2022.
>
> 45(2) Sections 42, 43 and 44 of this Act shall be deemed to have come
> into force on September 1, 2021.
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 02:32:12 +0000
> Subject: RE: RE NB Power and EUB Matter 503 Methinks David Coon and
> the LIEbranos should remind Higgy and the mindless Mr Furey that the
> Fat Lady aint sung about the dubious Bill 77 yet N'esy Pas???
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Katherine McBrearty <Katherine.McBrearty@nbeub.ca>
> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 02:32:16 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: RE NB Power and EUB Matter 503 Methinks
> David Coon and the LIEbranos should remind Higgy and the mindless Mr
> Furey that the Fat Lady aint sung about the dubious Bill 77 yet N'esy
> Pas???
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:31:18 -0400
> Subject: Methinks the EUB and Johnny "Never Been Good" Herron in
> particular forgot that one Intervener had lots to say EH Mr Furey?
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> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>, john.mcneil@gnb.ca,
> jason.humphrey2@gnb.ca, "Furey, John" <jfurey@nbpower.com>, wharrison
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> ---------- Original message ----------
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>  Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 08:17:44 +0000
>  Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks whereas the EUB transcripts can't
> be trusted perhaps the Brattle Group should have some of their people
> attend the EUB hearing next week
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 04:17:36 -0400
> Subject: Methinks whereas the EUB transcripts can't be trusted perhaps
> the Brattle Group should have some of their people attend the EUB
> hearing next week
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Michael.Cragg@brattle.com,
> James.Reitzes@brattle.com, Lynda.Borucki@brattle.com,
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> Obviously the Henneberry Reporting Service forgot to mention that Mr.
> Beaulieu attended the hearing and it was held in Delta Hotel,
> Fredericton N.B, it should be easy to understand why I stongly
> disagreed with their trancript of the public session I spoke at in
> 2018 N'esy Pas?
>
>
> New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board Commission de L’Energie et
> des Services Publics N.-B.
>
> Matter 430
>
>     IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation
> for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year
> commencing April 1, 2019, and other relief as outlined in NB Power’s
> application
>
>     Held at the Delta Hotel, Saint John, N.B., on May 9th 2019.
>
> BEFORE:          Raymond P Gorman, Q.C. - Chair
>                  John Patrick Herron   - Panel Member
>                  Michael Costello      - Panel Member
>                  Patrick Ervin         - Panel Member
>
> NB Energy and Utilities Board
>                         - Counsel - Ms. Ellen Desmond, Q.C.
>                         - Staff   - David Young
>                                     John Lawton
>                                     Michael Dickie
>                        Chief Clerk - Kathleen Mitchell
>
>   CHAIRMAN:  Good afternoon, everyone.  Bonjour.  Before we get
> started with today’s session, I want to point out that translation
> devices are available at the back of the room so if anybody needs one,
> please take this opportunity to secure one.  All right.
>
>     Welcome to today’s special session of the New Brunswick Energy and
> Utilities Board.  All members of the Energy and Utilities Board are
> present today, including Vice-Chair, Francois Beaulieu, and Members,
> Michael Costello, Patrick Ervin and John Herron.
>
>         Today’s public session will deal with Matter 430, which is NB
> Power’s
> 2019-2020 General Rate Application.  In that application, NB Power is
> seeking Board approval for, amongst other things, an average increase
> in rates of 2.5 percent with some customers receiving an increase as
> high as 2.9 percent.
>
>         This session of the rate hearing won’t follow the same format
> as we typically use at the formal hearing which will commence in about
> 10 days.  Today’s session is intended to be much less formal so
> despite the fact that we are sitting here on the dais and in the front
> of the room and everybody seems to have a jacket and tie on, you
> shouldn’t take that to mean that we are requiring any formality today.
> And the reason that I wanted to emphasize that informality is that we
> really want to encourage members of the general public to come to the
> session and provide their views on these rate applications.  Many
> people don’t have the time or the resources to present evidence before
> the Board but still have important contributions to make to the
> process.  I want to assure you that your comments are taken seriously
> by the Board.
>
> I want to also point out that NB Power is represented here today over
> in the right-hand side of the room and although they will not be
> making a presentation today, they will be available to hear your
> concerns and to discuss them further following the conclusion of the
> presentations.
>
>     Our Public Intervener, Heather Black, is also present and will be
> available to discuss any public interest concerns that you may have
> following today’s presentations.
>
>     In addition, we have several members from the Energy and Utilities
> Board Staff who are also available to discuss matters with you.
>
>         Each presenter today has been allocated 15 minutes to make his
> or her presentation and before we start with the presentations, I am
> going to invite Mr. Beaulieu to say a few words in French.
>
>   CHAIRMAN:  Thank you very much.  Thank you very much, Mr. Shaw.  I
> think that is all the presenters that we had for this afternoon.  So
> we will conclude for this afternoon and we will be back at 6:00 p.m.
> Thank you.
>
>     (Recess  -  4:25 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.)
>
>   CHAIRMAN:  Good evening, everyone.  Bonjour.  This session is a
> continuation of our annual public session related to the general rate
> application by NB Power.  And we had three excellent presentations
> earlier today.
>
>     Before we get started with the presentations this evening, I want
> to point out that there are translation devices available at the back
> of the room.  So if anybody feels that they may need that translation
> device, please take this opportunity to get one.
>
>     All right.  And I just want to -- for those who perhaps haven’t
> appeared before the Board in the past, I want to point out that the
> full Board is present here tonight, including to my left our
> Vice-Chair, Francois Beaulieu, Patrick Ervin to my far left, next to
> me Michael Costello and Mr. Ervin.  Did I call him Mr. Ervin?  Mr.
> Herron is down there.  There, I have got them mixed up.
>
>     All right.  So would you say a few words in French?
>
>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Bon soir à tous.  C’est un continuation de la séance
> public que nous avons débuter cette après-midi.  Comme M. le président
> l’a indiqué, nous avons reçu trois bonnes présentations cet
> après-midi.  Et puis avant de commencer, nous tenons à souligner que
> les dispositifs a l’arrière pour l’écoute en française si vous voulez,
> et puis cette un séance extraordinaire, un session extraordinaire de
> la Commission.  Pis comme vous pouvez le voir, toute le monde est
> présent aujourd’hui, Monsieur le président, M. Gorman, et puis à ma
> gauche, puis M. Herron, at puis M. Costello, puis M. Ervin.
>
>   CHAIRMAN:  All right.  So just before we get started, I should
> indicate as well that we have allocated 15 minutes for each of the
> presenters this evening.  So we will start with David Amos.
>
>     Mr. Amos, I think you can either take that table or the podium.
> Either one there is a microphone at both so whatever you are most
> comfortable with.
>
>   MR. AMOS:  Good evening.  I presume I can speak for 15 minutes
> uninterrupted?
>
>   CHAIRMAN:  Yes.  You are allocated 15 minutes, that’s correct, Mr. Amos.
>
>   MR. AMOS:  First I guess I should thank you for your signature, sir.
> I am probably the only man that wanted to intervene that you barred
> twice thus far.  At least this time I have your signature, that and
> Mr. Herron’s and Mr. Costello.  Everybody knows I ran against Mr.
> Herron in the election of the 38th parliament.  And his lawyer,
> another Queen’s Counsel, David Lutz never answered me.  So I filed the
> very same documents that I served upon Mr. Herron and David Lutz in
> 2004.  That said, at that time, I believe you were the lawyer for the
> Saint John utilities.
>
>     Anyway, Mr. Furey of NB Power, in his opposition to my intervening
> this time, didn’t think my whistle blowing efforts against KPMG
> amounted to anything, even though I gave you the proof I was
> conferring with Diane Lebouthiller, the Commissioner of Revenue
> Canada.  Well if you don’t think a whistle blower who understands the
> malice of a law firm and an accounting firm has the right to
> intervene, who also owns property here and is a ratepayer, I don’t
> know who is.  If you had said such things of Stephen Harper, he would
> consider it libel.  So do I.
>
>     The other two fellows that signed, Mr. Herron and Mr. Costello are
> not lawyers.  But Mr. Costello and Mr. Ewing both worked for Bell
> Aliant.  If you looked at the documents I sent, I even had a request
> for information from their former lawyer for Bell back in 2004.  It
> took them four days to print my files.
>
>     Anyway, when I first intervened in the 357 Matter, and you asked
> me why I intervened, I introduced myself.  And I said every lawyer in
> the room knows who I am.  And you do.  And you did not stop me from
> intervening in the 357 Matter and I thank you for that.  I am still an
> intervener in that Matter.
>
>     The next hearing they take -- or Mr. Furey takes documents from
> the 357 Matter, takes out certain documents, uses them against me and
> you barred me without one word in writing.  I opposed you delaying the
> 357 Matter with a proper motion and you never answered that motion.
> When you barred me just before you were done, you never put anything
> in writing.  So the last time I said, fool me once shame on you, fool
> me twice shame on me.  Now Mr. Furey filed a bunch of documents and
> then accused me of things I did not say from a transcript where I was
> never given a recording of it.  I never threatened to kill anyone.
> Who are you people to say any different.  That said, the last thing I
> said to you, Mr. Gorman, is do you understand the documents that are
> already on file.  You wouldn’t answer me.
>
>     Mr. Herron, who I have debated in several debates, looked like a
> deer in the headlights.  He wouldn’t say one word the whole time we
> were there.  As I explained to you, this is a rate increase hearing.
> When -- the last meeting we had at the 357 Matter, none of you guys
> knew what to do because Mr. Gallant wanted to be Premier again.  His
> people appointed you to be Chair again.
>
>     David Coon, the -- who had lots to say about NB Power when he was
> just a guy, was now opposing Mr. Gallant’s promise to freeze rates for
> at least three years.  Well Mr. Gallant isn’t Premier.  However, a
> Cabinet Minister’s wife, you allowed to intervene halfway through a
> hearing.  Interesting.  Then as soon as Mr. Higgs becomes Premier, NB
> Power all of a sudden wants a rate increase.  Ain’t that interesting.
> Where is the Green Party.
>
>     Now when I first intervened in the 357 Matter, you didn’t want my
> friend Gerald Bourque to intervene because he is a leader of a
> fledgling political party.  He is still intervening.  Gerald Bourque,
> my friend Roger Richard who I will back up till the cows come home and
> I all ran in the last provincial election.  My friend Roger Richard
> clearly stated his issues were Smart Meters.  You should still not
> allow Smart Meters until the 357 Matter is heard.  I am still an
> intervener there.
>
>     I will address your libel against me in the proper venue.  In my
> opinion that’s federal court.  You are a Queen’s Counsel, you are
> probably aware that New Brunswick does not have a constitution.  I
> filed the documents that proved that I was involved in a National
> Energy Board matter in Saint John while you were a counsellor for the
> Utilities.  Mr. Morrison, who is hearing a trial of a friend of mine’s
> murder, Dick Oland, was NB Power’s lawyer at the National Energy Board
> hearing.  Did not surprise me when Mr. Furey took out his boss’
> documents from those days.  He used to work for Brad Green.  And yet
> inserts a judgment by Mr. Morrison of Patterson & Palmer about barring
> some woman to speak because she is frivolous and vexatious.  I don’t
> know why you think because some woman is frivolous and vexatious that
> I am too.  I am no less a man than you.
>
>     Now as far as these people in New Brunswick goes, I do speak on
> behalf of my fellow New Brunswicker.  The average income, from what I
> read in CBC, of a New Brunswicker is about 31,000.  I bet you there is
> not one soul in this room that makes over double that.  From these --
> most folks to make a salary of 31,000, it is comprised of a lot of
> people that make a lot less than 31,000 and then a lot of people that
> make a lot more, like the people in this room.  But a lot of people
> are like me, seniors getting by on old Age pensions and Canada Pension
> or people working at Tim Hortons and trying to raise a couple of kids.
> And a lot of folks have to balance their heat bill versus their
> grocery bill or their pharma bill.  And yet NB Power has got all kinds
> of money for their highest paid employee, a Yankee who makes like
> $750,000 to invest in mini nucs and try to peddle them around the
> world.  Well the last thing I know about NB Power, its mandate, is to
> provide my fellow New Brunswickers reliable energy at a reasonable
> price.  You make lots of electricity now, in fact, you sell it to
> other jurisdictions.  I used to be in business.  I would like to have
> $1.7 billion in sales, owed 5 billion.  I think I would get out of
> debt pretty quick.  You are supposed to have 20 percent equity before
> you invest in Mactaquac.  Just from what I look at the books, what
> KPMG says we have for assets I think is what, 6.7 billion, book value
> nearly 5 billion.  Well the difference between book value and what the
> assets are, you are already over 20 percent equity.  There is no need
> for a price increase.  There is no need to borrow money to invest in
> mini nucs for the benefit of a bunch of Yankees.  I find all of this
> very aggravating.  The reason that you bar me is because I sue lawyers
> and love to argue.
>
>     Mr. Gorman, you and I will meet in another court.  In my humble
> opinion, you need a lawyer.  Good evening.
>
>   CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Amos.  All right.  Next we will have Frank
> Jopp.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Waycott, Stephen" <SWaycott@nbpower.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 15:40:35 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: EXT -  Re: Matter 430 - NB Power 2019-2020
> General Rate Application / Instance Nº 430 - Énergie NB Demande
> générale de tarifs pour 2019-2020
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>
>
> Thank you for your email.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 00:39:09 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Matter 430 - NB Power 2019-2020 General Rate
> Application / Instance Nº 430 - Énergie NB Demande générale de tarifs
> pour 2019-2020
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
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> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 00:39:09 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Matter 430 - NB Power 2019-2020 General Rate
> Application / Instance Nº 430 - Énergie NB Demande générale de tarifs
> pour 2019-2020
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> Subject: Automatic reply: Matter 430 - NB Power 2019-2020 General Rate
> Application / Instance Nº 430 - Énergie NB Demande générale de tarifs
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-behind-on-debt-reduction-commitment-1.5005527
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> NB Power behind on plan to pay down $1 billion in debt The utility
> would need to increase rates by 22.3% to pay down its debt on schedule
>
> Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 05, 2019 6:30 AM AT
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> David Amos
> Methinks the folks who offer their opinions on NB Power's debt and
> rate hikes should consider attending the first day of the public EUB
> hearing of the 430 Matter today at 9.30 AM in the Delta Hotel in Saint
> John N'esy Pas?
>
>
>
> David Amos
> Methinks tomorrow should prove to be an interesting day at the EUB
> hearing o the 430 Matter byway of all the documents that the NB Power
> lawyers served on me at the last minute Anyone can download them from
> the EUB website if they truly cared N'esy Pas?
>
>
>
> Mark (Junkman) George
> Here is "the deal".
>
> It serves no one's purpose to run NB Hydro efficiently.
>
> The politicians don't care and see it only as a source to provide
> patronage positions.
>
> The folks running it have no desire to operate it efficiently,
> otherwise they would have no excuse for rate hikes, and big budgets
> indexed to their bonuses.
>
> I *guess*, on many levels, privatization is an answer of sorts, but
> does not assure efficient operation and/or decent competitive energy
> pricing.
>
> I *suppose* the best thing to do is remove all political control along
> with all the middle managers.
>
> Roger Richard
> @Mark (Junkman) George You may be right, we should be able to find a
> solution. But I wonder where integrity when?
>
> David Amos
> @Roger Richard Methinks you know as well as I that I will have another
> chance to teach NB Power, the EUB and many lawyers a lesson about
> Integrity tomorrow morning at 9.30 in the Delta Hotel in Saint John
> N'esy Pas mon cher ami???
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