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Methinks Higgy et al know the many reasons why I am not so happy that a former Irving spin doctor and EX KISS Party candidate is posting in here N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/ontario-family-makes-virtual-home.html
U-Haul seeing record numbers moving to Atlantic Canada
Moving company says most people are moving from Ontario.
Devin Mitchell, logistics manager for U-Haul in Atlantic Canada, says the company has seen a dramatic increase of people moving to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia since COVID-19 hit. (Submitted by Devin Mitchell)
If you want more proof people moving to Atlantic Canada in big numbers, look no further than your local U-Haul dealer.
At rental locations throughout New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, trucks, vans and trailers are piling up in record numbers.
According to the company, people are moving here in droves, far outweighing the number of people who are leaving. That means trucks and trailers are piling up.
"We've had them lined up and down the road," said Keegan Glendenning, a U-Haul employee in Fredericton.
At Glendenning's location on Hodgson Road, the lot is overflowing. Trucks line one side of the road, trailers line the other.
It appears the road to Atlantic Canada has nearly become a one-way street.
And it's all due to COVID-19.
The U-Haul rental location in Fredericton has trucks and trailers parked on the street as the company records many more people moving into Atlantic Canada in the wake of COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
"For the first few months of COVID it was very slow, no one was really leaving Atlantic Canada," said Devin Mitchell, logistical manager for U-Haul in Atlantic Canada. "It also seemed like there was a mass exodus leaving Ontario and Quebec, coming back here."
When the summer months hit, things got crazy.
"Since July we started blowing it out of the water," said Mitchell. "Huge increases in July, August, and it's probably the busiest September I've ever seen."
"Many, many, many, more moving in than in previous years," said Mitchell.
U-Hauls observation of Canadians trending to Atlantic Canada fits with other industries. Realtors have been flat-out selling a record number of houses, often to people who have never stepped inside the building, relying instead on virtual tours.
In a normal year, Mitchell said the number of Canadians moving tends to drop with the temperatures, but so far he's not seeing a decrease. Mitchell said it's good for Atlantic Canada and it's good for business.
"It's so much more than we anticipated," said
Mitchell. "So I'm hoping that will carry out into October, November and
December."
U-Haul is struggling to get vehicles back to their home locations in Ontario and Quebec. The company has been forced to lower rental fees for people heading to those provinces from New Brunswick. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
According to Mitchell's numbers, most people moving to the Maritimes are mainly from Ontario, but he is also seeing moves from Quebec. He said the number of people moving out hasn't decreased, with numbers comparable to last year.
But that imbalance has created a bit of a nightmare for a U-Haul logistics manager. Normally there's a steady predictable flow of people moving in and out of the Maritimes. Pair that imbalanced flow of movers with New Brunswick's closed borders and it creates a "Venus fly trap" for moving trucks.
"We have a record number of equipment in Atlantic Canada," said Mitchell.
When trucks and trailers start to build up, U-Haul will sometimes hire employees to take vehicles back to other depots across the country to even out the fleet. But the closed border, coupled with the mandatory two-week quarantine, means that's not feasible.
"I can send a stream of guys driving trucks and trailers out there, but once they fly back, they're out of commission for work for fourteen days," said Mitchell.
So, the company is offering reduced rates for rentals instead as an incentive to get equipment back to Ontario and Quebec.
"For the foreseeable future, the rates will probably be pretty low for leaving Atlantic Canada," said Mitchell.
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David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
James
Risdon
Welcome to beautiful
Bathurst - The City by the Bay in Northern New Brunswick, Where the
Endless Beaches Kiss the Emerald Forests!
We're happy to have you here.
We're happy to have you here.
David Amos
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Reply to @James
Risdon: Methinks Higgy et al know the many reasons why I am not so happy
that a former Irving spin doctor and EX KISS Party candidate is posting
in here N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
Clem Tagliente
Been saying it all
along, this was inevitable, we will continue to see more and more people
moving here, the only question is will the NB government be able to
keep up with infrastructure to support all these people???
john smith
Reply to @Clem Tagliente: more the merrier as long as they are not expecting big city amenities when they move to the woods,
David Amos
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Reply to @Clem Tagliente: You must have being saying with a different name because you just passed 100 posts with your new IDDavid Amos
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Reply to @Clem Tagliente: Heres a little Deja Vu for you and your pals from yesterday "Methinks my ghost has obviously picked up a new critic or possibly a familiar one with a new ID N'esy Pas?"
David Amos
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Reply to @john smith: Yesterday Clem said
"sorry to brake it to ya, but there is nothing you can do to stop other Canadians from moving to NB and they will continue to move here. As far as the federal government is concerned, we simply must vote them out a the next election. Besides if people in NB are against far left policies so much, as you claim, then why did they all vote liberal in the last federal election????"
"sorry to brake it to ya, but there is nothing you can do to stop other Canadians from moving to NB and they will continue to move here. As far as the federal government is concerned, we simply must vote them out a the next election. Besides if people in NB are against far left policies so much, as you claim, then why did they all vote liberal in the last federal election????"
James Risdon
Reply to @Clem Tagliente: More people, more tax revenues. More tax revenue, more infrastructure.
Bill Henry
Is
anyone with money coming or just kids with no jobs or skills, with an
old rv, and 10 grand to buy an acre out in the boonies
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry:
Methinks the kids may agree that you post like an old bureaucrat snob
who doesn't want poor folks in his neck of the woods to infringe on his
deal with Higgy et al and allow to him to enjoy his fancy retirement
home in OUR province N'esy Pas?
Bill Henry
I thought all uhaul vechicles filling parking lots meant no business.glad they are making some dough.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks some say the love of money is the root of all evil N'esy Pas?
Naomi Hurtubise
We purchased vacant
farmland from Ontario site unseen close to Fredericton, it closed on
March 17 just as things were shutting down. Used satellite photos, road
view in google maps and the sellers were great at answering our
questions. Had a well put in with hand pump, driveway and temporary
hydro for our trailer all from Ontario, ready for quarantine. Neighbours
dropped of veggies, preserves, flowers. Kids are happy we moved,
quickly made new friends. We plan to have our regenerative farm up and
running by 2022
Bill Henry
Reply to @Naomi Hurtubise: there is farmland for sale close to Fredericton? That must be a ways out.
Naomi Hurtubise
Reply to @Bill Henry: It’s a 30 minute drive, not bad at all. Traffic isn’t bad, and it’s a beautiful drive.
Gilles LeBlanc
Reply to @Naomi Hurtubise: Welcome , happy to have you.
David Amos
Reply to @Gilles LeBlanc: Me Too
Les Cooper
I guess the English numbers will go up in NB? That will have a lot of fre nch go crazy
Dan Lee
Reply to @Les Cooper:
Archie Bunker is back
Archie Bunker is back
Tim Apple
Reply to @Les Cooper:
Funny - I would've anticipated the most coming from QC. After
quarantine, I hope they all receive hearty bienvenues, regardless of
their creed and culture.
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Les Cooper:
Mos probably more open-minded than the COR bunch from the south and
willing to learn both official languages like most of the north did.
Tim Apple
Reply to @Jos Allaire: "willing to learn both official languages..."
'Willing', you said. Well. They could start by reading back issues of AcadieMan. ;)
'Willing', you said. Well. They could start by reading back issues of AcadieMan. ;)
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: You don't say Maggy?
Les Cooper
Wait till they find
out they have to be bilingual to get a job. Or any job that doesnt exist
in NB. Besides Covid numbers just went up in NB lol
Gilles LeBlanc
Reply to @Les Cooper: lol pretty much , betting on offices never coming back is a long shot.
David Amos
Reply to @Gilles LeBlanc: The joke is on us
eddy watts
But there are few
jobs....and housing has ALWAYS been FAR cheaper than other parts of
Canada: So who's moving here? Is it the ex-Maritimers who moved to the
oil patch, which is in it's final stages of a death throes?
Bryan Jones
Reply to @eddy watts: It's people working from home who can get a bigger house with less debt and still work as normal.
Gilles LeBlanc
Reply to @Bryan Jones: until offices open again. Then your selling for less and moving back lol.
eddy watts
Reply to @Bryan
Jones: You think that they are moving thousands (not 75-200 miles like
Toronto and Vancouver) of miles from their workplace. I believe those
folks (thousands of miles) were already doing this before Covid.
Interesting to see some facts/figures on theposible scenario though.
Tim Apple
Reply to @eddy watts:
Still cheaper? An earlier CBC headline: "N.B. housing market 'blew up'
during COVID-19". Buyers paying $60k above asking price.
Steve Ryan
Reply to @Tim Apple:
$60k above is nothing compared to average prices in other provinces.
Many buyers could end up with a few hundred thousand in their pocket.
$60k above is nothing compared to average prices in other provinces.
Many buyers could end up with a few hundred thousand in their pocket.
eddy watts
Reply to @Tim Apple:
Some truth to prices....however one needs to be careful with CBC numbers
that often reflect a Real Estate Board perspective. Realtors (CBC)
figures are often at odds with the less biased numbers from CMHC or
Moodys.
eddy watts
Reply to @Steve Ryan: 2500 sq ft Fredericton 250000 Toronto 1.2 millio
James Risdon
Reply to @eddy watts:
The jobs are kept at bay because of the lack of skilled labour to
attract companies. Bring the people. The jobs will come.
Tim Apple
Reply to @Steve Ryan:
I'm guessing you're cherry-picking numbers from urban centres and
resort communities. Might as well compare Toronto to Kenora. But to
compare apples with apples, both Fredericton and Saint John have
population bases similar to Sioux Ste Marie, ON. Now let the fair
comparisons begin. 'Few hundred thousand in their pocket', huh?David Amos
Reply to @eddy watts: Good Points Sir
Tim Apple
Reply to @eddy watts: False equivalent. Why not compare Vancouver with Glace Bay while you're at it?
Paul Bourgoin
I wonder once here ,
the people moving to Atlantic Canada in big numbers, what will they do?
Atlantic Canada's, New Brunswick is like the rest of Canada praying that
Covid !9 doesn't knock at their Provincial DOOR. One must not forget
New Brunswick is a have-not Province!
Ethan
Beaver
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin:
People are able to work from home more than ever before, they can have a hobby farm, crops and/or animals and there are indeed regular jobs here as well. You don’t need to live in a city to have a great life. I have no idea how people live in the GTA. Real estate prices are not offset by a relatively small increase in salary.
People are able to work from home more than ever before, they can have a hobby farm, crops and/or animals and there are indeed regular jobs here as well. You don’t need to live in a city to have a great life. I have no idea how people live in the GTA. Real estate prices are not offset by a relatively small increase in salary.
Gilles LeBlanc
Reply to @Ethan
Beaver: until offices open again. Selling your house for less forcing
you to live in a gta apt later cause you sold your condo or house in
gta. We'll be holding them captive once this blows over. Common down lol
Steve Ryan
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin:
Possibly many are retirees with mortgage free homes.
Possibly many are retirees with mortgage free homes.
Tim Apple
Reply to @Paul
Bourgoin: I'm just asking, because I really don't know: Why is it that
NB is a "have-not Province"? Is it a landlocked desert? Outmoded
attitudes and infrastructure? Doesn't it boast the second largest
refinery in NA, and doesn't it make warships (fyi - war never goes out
of fashion)?
What's the missing puzzle piece - population maybe? Leadership? Call-centres?
What's the missing puzzle piece - population maybe? Leadership? Call-centres?
James Risdon
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Didn't used to be.
James Risdon
Reply to @Tim Apple:
Skilled labour. New Brunswick exports its young, educated work force. It
does so because it has not figured out that by having a highly-educated
labour force within the province it will attract world-class companies
and become a centre of business incubation.
James Risdon
Reply to @Tim Apple:
Mind you, I'm here now and it's been almost two decades which is about
the amount of lead time I usually have on societal trends. So, New
Brunswick should be just about ready to start turning the corner.
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Apple: Why is it that NB is a "have-not Province"?
Methinks many old folks would agree its because of all the the clowns we elected since the 50s who pay homage the Irving and McCain Clans. Trust that New Brunswick was thriving when I was kid back then N'esy Pas?
Methinks many old folks would agree its because of all the the clowns we elected since the 50s who pay homage the Irving and McCain Clans. Trust that New Brunswick was thriving when I was kid back then N'esy Pas?
Tim Apple
Reply to @James
Risdon: Sorry, but that sounds like a chicken/egg story: 'We have no
employers because we have no skilled work force; we have no skilled work
force because of no employers.' The result: usually corporate welfare,
PPP's, and debacles like UPM Kimmene and ATCON. The new economy will not
and should not resemble the Industrial Revolution.
Martin Howser
Well the government
is now giving people $500 a week to do nothing, and that’ll get a
reasonable apartment with money left over for food and bills.,.. so why
bother with work?
Gilles LeBlanc
Reply to @Martin Howser: it's over now martin
Tim Apple
Reply to @Martin
Howser: That benefit is granted only to workers that have tested
positive and are (correctly) discharged from the workplace by their
(good responsible big-picture) employers.
David Amos
Reply to @Martin Howser: BINGO
David Amos
Reply to @Gilles LeBlanc: Nope
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Apple: Nope
Terry Tibbs
That is quite a story. Too bad no one thought to get an actual number somewhere?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Welcome back
James Risdon
Reply
to @Terry Tibbs: The CBC needs to hire reporters like me. Then, they'll
have numbers in their stories. Not all reporters are good with numbers.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @James Risdon:
Without a number of any kind this becomes less than worthless.
Might as well write about the clouds in the sky.
Without a number of any kind this becomes less than worthless.
Might as well write about the clouds in the sky.
James Risdon
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
I tend to agree. That's why I like to have hard data in my stories.
You'd think that would be a widely-accepted practice in journalism but
it isn't. There are some things, such as perceptions of discrimination
for example, where media outlets frown on journalists asking the alleged
victims for actual evidence or data or third party corroboration of the
allegations. As time goes on, it seems hard data and facts are taking a
back seat to the impressions of experts and activists.
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: "The CBC needs to hire reporters like me."
Yea Right
Yea Right
Rene Labonne
No wonder . A small house in Toronto or Vancouver is about 1 millions dollars , which is insane
David Amos
Reply to @Rene Labonne: I concur
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: However have you checked the price of a 2x4 or a piece of plywood lately?
Sammy Kofax
Reply to @David Amos:
I know ! Crazy. I found a receipt for a piece of plywood I bought
over 6 months ago it was $22.95. Now $70 to $75...insane. No building
for me in the near future !
James Risdon
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: Lumber prices will go back down once the sawmills catch up during the slower part of the season.
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: So says an Irving spin doctor
Steve
Dueck
Yep...a lot of people
moving back here to NL too. There is a moving company here that is so
busy they were not taking on any new business
David Amos
Reply to @Steve
Dueck: Methinks Higgy et know I got stuck in the Maritimes 15 years ago
but now that I have grown old I don't mind "Being In this Place" and
look forward to pushing up daisies with my Forefathers.
Despite it all New Brunswick and most of its folks help to make this a wonderful world N'esy Pas?
Despite it all New Brunswick and most of its folks help to make this a wonderful world N'esy Pas?
Tim Apple
Reply to @David Amos: "Being In this Place..."
Does NB have a lot of buddhist monasteries or something?
"...look forward to pushing up daisies with my Forefathers."
Hope it's daisies and not GMO Norway Spruce. ;)
Be … in which place? Decades-old P.E.I. licence plate evokes recent N.B. slogan
1970s P.E.I. plate designed to mark province's Confederation centenary reminiscent of recent N.B. effort
Paul Hantiuk · CBC News · Posted: Feb 22, 2017 7:45 PM AT
At top is a New Brunswick plate featuring the 'Be... in this place' slogan that was taken out of circulation in 2011. At bottom, the 1975 Prince Edward Island licence plate.
Does NB have a lot of buddhist monasteries or something?
"...look forward to pushing up daisies with my Forefathers."
Hope it's daisies and not GMO Norway Spruce. ;)
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Apple: I am NOT laughing Is That your real name? I use mine as per the rules
David Amos
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Reply to @Tim Apple: Oh and how dumb are you? Be … in which place? Decades-old P.E.I. licence plate evokes recent N.B. slogan
1970s P.E.I. plate designed to mark province's Confederation centenary reminiscent of recent N.B. effort
Paul Hantiuk · CBC News · Posted: Feb 22, 2017 7:45 PM AT
At top is a New Brunswick plate featuring the 'Be... in this place' slogan that was taken out of circulation in 2011. At bottom, the 1975 Prince Edward Island licence plate.
Dan Armitage
Probably gonna be hard to find movers to rent the vans to take those vans back to Ontario
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Armitage: Obviously it already is
June Arnott
We finally have people moving here and people STILL complain. You all need to find a hobby
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @June Arnott: sadly their hobby seems to be this website.
Sammy Kofax
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: hahahahaha nice one.
David Amos
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: I concur
T R
Reply
to @June Arnott: I agree June, There are some people in our society
who are hell bent on making everything a left/right, lib/con issue.
This why the States are where they are, people forgot how to be grateful
for what they already have.
michael levesque
i wish these people luck in finding a family doctor and paying the highest price of milk in north america.
Marc Bourque
Reply to @michael levesque: i can see finding a doctor a priority but to mention milk LOL LOL
Rhonda Phillips
Reply to @michael
levesque: Milk would be at one of the least concerns right now. We have a
perfect growing season for a lot of vegetables and a great province for
livestock and seafood. What do you want?
David Amos
Reply to @michael levesque: Me Too
Tim Apple
Reply
to @michael levesque: Simple. Make every uhaul rental include a cow and
a doctor - preferably one who knows how to milk. Cheese-making is a
bonus.
Reply to @Tim Apple: Are you just another tr oll?
David Amos
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Darren
Croft
Yes come back or come here for the first time to enjoy twice the taxes and half the pay
Michael G. L. Geraldson
Reply to @Darren Croft:
Many, like me, moved back and retired so pay isn't an issue.
Many, like me, moved back and retired so pay isn't an issue.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Darren
Croft: And you get to buy a $550,000 house for only $190,000 and then
(if you work) enjoy a 5 minute commute to work instead of hours.
James Edward
Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: Great, so old people move back to further burden our health care system....
Michael G. L. Geraldson
Reply to @James Edward:
I moved back and retired at 58, that's hardly old.
I moved back and retired at 58, that's hardly old.
Clem
Tagliente
Reply to @Darren
Croft: The healthcare system is what really worries me, I mean we have
been on the family dr waiting list for 2 years and still waiting.
David Amos
Reply to @Clem
Tagliente: At least Higgy et al no doubt permits you to have a medicare
card In the "mean" time my right to free health care is still on
"Stay" status However I have a family doctor who is about to retire
again. A couple of years ago he came out of retirement to take care or
his friends and neighbours because the young doctor who stood in his
stead did not wish to "Be In This Place" and moved to Quebec.
Apparently there with no replacement for my fine doctor on the "Horizon"
so to speak.
Methinks whereas he is as old as I it follows that I must agree that he has certainly earned the right to enjoy his latter days in "The Place to Be" N'esy Pas?
Methinks whereas he is as old as I it follows that I must agree that he has certainly earned the right to enjoy his latter days in "The Place to Be" N'esy Pas?
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Michael G.
L. Geraldson: Like you, I am older, Michael. But a place simply can't
thrive based solely on well-off retirees (and pot sales).
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Clem
Tagliente: That is simply outrageous and insane. Nobody here in
Maine would believe you if you told them that you have to wait that
long. (We might have to wait a month at the most to get a
PCP..........usually much shorter). My own PCP couldn't be part of the
train wreck of NB medicine any more and moved over here (like many other
providers have). Ain't socialized medicine great?? Remind me again of
its wonders..........
David Amos
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Reply to @Jim Cyr: Say hey to Trump, Biden Pence and Harris for me will ya?
David Amos
Reply to @James
Edward: I resemble that remark but methinks I have the right to come
back. Higgy cannot deny the fact I was born and raised here ran a
businesses and paid my fair share of taxes etc while he worked for the
Irvring Clan and was a wannabe CoR Party leader N'esy Pas?
James
Edward
Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: It's not young. Your coming into your prime for health care expense
Michael G. L. Geraldson
In my rural area
homes sales were often sluggish, homes took awhile to sell and buyers
often had to sell for far less than asking price. This summer homes for
sale were flying off the market, people are getting close to or even
above asking price, and yes most buyers are from Ontario. The market is
so brisk that real estate agents are knocking on doors and calling folks
to see if they want to sell, something I've never seen here since I've
been in the area.
David Amos
Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: Go Figure
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/housing-market-pandemic-covid-19-1.5669213
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks it was just one of the many reasons Higgy had the writ dropped N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos:
Methinks is very Interesting that I am not permitted to post a link to a
recent CBC article directly related this topic N'esy Pas?David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Lets try it again with a different one.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/newell-family-new-brunswick-1.5754059
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/newell-family-new-brunswick-1.5754059
Matt Steele
This story seems to
lack a lot of information . Are people moving to the Maritimes to stay ,
or are they moving here for a few months while they live off of EI ,
and once the Covid-19 scare is over , they will move back to where ever
they came from . I suspect that once people move to the Maritimes and
see how high the unemployment rate is , and how most govt. jobs in N.B.
are closed to anyone that does not speak french , that they won't be
staying around long
Dave Girdwood
Reply to @Matt
Steele: Many jobs have been deemed remote jobs, buying an estate in NB
for half the price of a bachelor condo in Toronto while being safe makes
a lot of sense. And BTW a lot of us couldn't care less about the
bilingual requirement for government jobs, because we don't want them.
Christopher Harborne
Reply to @Matt Steele: If you don't like it here, you're free to leave as well.
James Edward
Reply to @Dave Girdwood: Remote working is a fad. Production levels go down when working from home.
June Arnott
Reply to @Matt Steele: to stay Eye roll
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Matt Steele: I suspect you failed to factor retirement into your equation
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Good Point
Tim Apple:
Reply to @Matt
Steele: Curious - a lot of those uhauls look like they've got air holes
poked in them, and a short stub of sewer pipe sticking down underneath.
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Apple: No you are not
Ben
Haroldson
Time to make it just
that, Atlantica, 1 province , that's how the idiotdemic in ottawa sees
us anyway. Save a lot of money on bureaucracy, and have a lot more clout
with the feds. Let's get it done, and actually make a difference.
Matt Steele
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: .....It will never happen as N.S. , PEI and NFLD . would
never accept the forced official bilingualism that N.B. has . It would
not be surprising that since Covid-19 has now been discovered in the
school system in Campbellton , that N.B. will be kicked out of the
Atlantic Bubble in the near future .
Ben
Haroldson
Reply to @Matt Steele: Your problem with french will not stop it from happening.
james charlong
Reply to @Matt
Steele: ... because of Campbellton, that NB will be kicked out of the
bubble .. well that's alot of BS ... If NB is kicked out of the bubble
it's because of the outbreak in Moncton ... oh yeah that's a part of the
golden tri-angle .. nothing will ever happen down south.
Robert Brannen
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
An egregious error was made in 1784 when the Colony of Nova Scotia was partitioned due to the whining of U.E.L.s; I expect that Nova Scotia would want nothing to do with a reintegration of its territories at this point in time.
An egregious error was made in 1784 when the Colony of Nova Scotia was partitioned due to the whining of U.E.L.s; I expect that Nova Scotia would want nothing to do with a reintegration of its territories at this point in time.
Christopher Harborne
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: More clout with the feds? We would end up with fewer MPs,
fewer Premiers and fewer Senators (yes, that can matter). So
representation and influence at the Federal level shrinks dramatically.
James Edward
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would be the end of Canada
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: no but the other provinces issue with forced OB will. You sound like this is NBs decision alone.
Clem Tagliente
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: Maybe not a full on merger, but there are certainly
efficiencies that can be had by combining services.
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: Yup
David Amos
Reply to @Clem Tagliente: So you say
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Brannen: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
However they did take Cape Breton back Correct?
However they did take Cape Breton back Correct?
David Amos
Reply to @Robert
Brannen: BTW Perhaps we still belong to Nova Scotia. Did you notice that
New Brunswick still does not have a constitution?
Methinks this simple fact should rot Higgy's fancy blue socks and put an interesting knot nasty blue knickers and his fine tie as well N'esy Pas?
Methinks this simple fact should rot Higgy's fancy blue socks and put an interesting knot nasty blue knickers and his fine tie as well N'esy Pas?
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I wonder if anyone has figured out why the Crown illegally barred me from the
Provincial Archives of New Brunswick many years agohttps://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/ontario-family-makes-virtual-home.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/newell-family-new-brunswick-1.5754059
Ontario family makes virtual home purchase in NB in midst of pandemic
Real estate agent said it's a trend during the pandemic
· CBC News · Posted: Oct 08, 2020 7:00 AM AT
Andrew and Ashley Newell with their 8 month old baby, Nancy, moved to Fredericton on Oct. 1 from Ontario. (Submitted/Andrew Newell )
In the midst of a global pandemic, an Ontario couple packed up their life and movedwith their newborn daughter to New Brunswick, without any family ties to the province and without first being able to tour their new home in person.
Andrew Newell and his wife, Ashley, arrived in Fredericton on Oct. 1 — closing day for their new home they purchased while living in Peterborough.
Because of the COVID restrictions, the family wasn't able to visit and view the house until all the paperwork was processed, and the family's move was official.
"It was a good experience overall when we got here, and there wasn't any surprises," said Andrew.
Real estate agent Bradley MacDonald said giving virtual walk-throughs for clients outside of the Atlantic bubble is becoming more common during the pandemic. (Gary Moore/CBC)
The Newell family made the purchase from their home province while their real estate agent, Bradley MacDonald, showed them properties through various social media apps on his phone.
MacDonald walked through each listing that caught the eye of the Newells — virtually.
Newell said the process worked well and he relied on MacDonald for details the camera couldn't pick up.
"I have to remember to ask, 'Does it smell strange in there?' or something like that, right," Newell said.
The husband and wife had visited New Brunswick in the past and were shocked with the price of houses compared to Ontario.
And for a growing family, that was enough to pull them to the East Coast.
The Newell family made the purchase from their home province while their real estate agent, Bradley MacDonald, showed them properties through various social media apps on his phone.
MacDonald walked through each listing that caught the eye of the Newells — virtually.
Newell said the process worked well and he relied on MacDonald for details the camera couldn't pick up.
"I have to remember to ask, 'Does it smell strange in there?' or something like that, right," Newell said.
The husband and wife had visited New Brunswick in the past and were shocked with the price of houses compared to Ontario.
And for a growing family, that was enough to pull them to the East Coast.
"I think the average price in Peterborough when we left was somewhere around $550,000, and you're lucky if you can get two bedrooms for that price," Newell said.
The pandemic's new way of working and living made the move possible. Newell works in information technology. While most of his work was done from home before the pandemic, everything shifted online in recent months.
As for the move: the transaction was executed entirely digitally — right down to the dotting of the i's and crossing of the t's.
The Newells' story of moving from a larger centre in Canada to the East Coast during the pandemic is becoming a trend, said MacDonald, who works for the Syroid Group of Gardiner Realty Royal LePage.
Bradley MacDonald helped the Newell family virtually tour
listings the family was interested in while they were still in Ontario. (Gary Moore/CBC)
"A lot of families are discovering that they don't need to work in an office in a big city," the real estate agent said, adding that the affordability and lifestyle of Atlantic Canada are part of the appeal.
To accommodate the demand from families looking to move from outside the Atlantic bubble, MacDonald said the way he shows houses has changed.
"It's been a lot of WhatsApp video calls," he said, which is how he showed the Newells the listings they were interested in touring.
"I like to do a video call with them in person, so I can point out things that I see in a house," he said.
Although the Newells are some of New Brunswick's newest residents, the family has yet to explore their new neighbourhood because they are still self-isolating.
Once the isolation period ends, they're eager to explore their city beyond Google street view.
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David Amos
Hmmmm
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos:
I wonder if anyone has figured out why the Crown illegally barred me from the
Provincial Archives of New Brunswick many years ago
Clem
Tagliente
Reply to @David Amos: maybe because you keep saying nesy'pas ???
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Clem
Tagliente: Methinks my ghost has obviously picked up a new critic or
possibly a familiar one with a new ID N'esy Pas?
John Grail
I would never buy the most expensive purchase of my life without seeing it...
Sharon Lewis
Reply to @John Grail: it’s the new world.
David Amos
Reply to @Sharon Lewis: and a not so brave one
Uganda Rice
This
looks like a nice couple and I think their child will have a much
better future in New Brunswick than in the globalist mess that Canada
has become. They seem much nicer than that I G N O R A N T Ontario man
who came here a few weeks before the election and complained that he
wasn't allowed to vote in the election. Why come here just to complain
about us and what makes you think you have the right to decide the
future of this province when you haven't been here for barely a month?
Any Canadians who want to turn our heaven on earth into another Ontario
or Vancouver should please stay away. Anyone who loves our way of life
and wants to preserve that, then welcome!
Dan Armitage
Reply to @Uganda Rice: yup chk the upper Canadian attitude at the border please
Andrew Butters
Reply to @Uganda Rice:
I am that guy and I'd be curious as to what your logic is for
suppressing my vote. I own a house in NB. It's not just my principal
residence, it's my ONLY one. I have an NB driver's license. medicaid
card, and roll # for my taxes - which are paid through the end of the
year (so my money is welcome but my vote isn't. Maybe if my name was
Irving that would be different). It's not an "Upper Canada" attitude,
it's a democratic one. On top of that, I could have lied! No one
actually checks to see how long you've been in the province, so why the
hell is it even a rule if it's not being enforced (and no real way to
enforce it). I have too much respect for our democratic process to do
that so I asked "Why?" instead and you know what, no one had an answer.
John Grail
Reply to @Uganda Rice: Speaking of complaining...
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Armitage: Well put
Uganda Rice
Reply to @Andrew
Butters: Because you weren't here even for a few months before the
election. What would you even know about life in New Brunwick having
only lived here for a few weeks that would allow you to make voting
decisions that affect those of us with deep roots here?
John Grail
Reply to @Uganda Rice: Do you realize the hypocrisy of your post?
Uganda Rice
Reply to @John Grail: What is the h y p o c r i s y?
John Grail
Reply to @Uganda Rice: You are making a public complaint about someone making a public complaint.
John Grail
Reply to @Uganda
Rice: What does an 18 year old who has never had a real job know about
the economy? Your argument makes no sense.
David Amos
Reply to @Andrew Butters: Well said Mr Butters
However "Powers That Be" know that even though I ran in 7 elections in this neck of the woods since 2004 and sued the Queen in 2016 I am still barred me from many public properties throughout Canada.In 2008 the RCMP arrested me without a warrant and had me falsely imprisoned in the looney bin when I asserted my charter right to meet a judge. Worse yet all these years later Higgy et al still deny me a NB driver's license. a medicare card and even a provincial ID which I require to renew my passport despite the fact that I own property in my name, pay the Crown's taxes and pay my NB Power bills and emergency room and doctors fees.
Methinks many folks know why I expect these words to go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
However "Powers That Be" know that even though I ran in 7 elections in this neck of the woods since 2004 and sued the Queen in 2016 I am still barred me from many public properties throughout Canada.In 2008 the RCMP arrested me without a warrant and had me falsely imprisoned in the looney bin when I asserted my charter right to meet a judge. Worse yet all these years later Higgy et al still deny me a NB driver's license. a medicare card and even a provincial ID which I require to renew my passport despite the fact that I own property in my name, pay the Crown's taxes and pay my NB Power bills and emergency room and doctors fees.
Methinks many folks know why I expect these words to go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Uganda Rice
Atlantic
Canadians should be prepared for a new reality where we have very high
housing costs the same as the rest of Canada. That's the reality of
being a rural region with 2 million people in a country with open
borders where 37 million + people have the right to free movement here.
We may become v i c t i m s of our own success and find out that fewer
school places, high housing costs, clogged roads etc wasn't worth being
part of Canada. We are doing so well because we have so few people, not
sure why so many are so eager to undo that benefit of low population
density. More people does not equal higher incomes, higher productivity,
wages, higher value products equals higher incomes.
Clem
Tagliente
Reply to @Uganda Rice:
Dude, you just have no clue what you are talking about do you? NB for
most of its history has relied on federal transfers to maintain the
standard of living that you so love and want to protect. So without
Canada, NB and the rest of atlantic region for that matter would be 3d
world countries. Having more Canadians move here is something we should
welcome. It brings wealth and investment into our province and will
raise the standard of living for everyone. As for the fears you are
talking about, NB is not for everyone, i doubt we will be overrun by
Ontarians any time soon. so calm down.
Uganda Rice
Reply to @Clem
Tagliente: The idea that we would be third world without transfer
payments is completely ridiculous. Our health system would need more
funding without health transfers, but maybe that would make (and would
have made) our government(s) focus on spending tax money on services
rather than trying to run the economy.
The idea that the rest of Canada is responsible for our income is
ridiculous. All the wood, fish, refined oil etc would still happen with
or without Canada.
Michael G.
L. Geraldson
Reply to @Clem Tagliente:
Completely agree, and with a large ageing population we should be encouraging people to relocate here and be thankful they do.
Completely agree, and with a large ageing population we should be encouraging people to relocate here and be thankful they do.
Uganda Rice
Reply to @Michael G.
L. Geraldson: Open borders with freedom of movement to Canada is the
reason that the rest of Canada was able to lure our workforce away from
decades and insult us as they did it.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Uganda Rice: Do you review what you write?
Kat Jo
Welcome to New Brunswick.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Kat Jo:
Methinks is more like Welcome to the ongoing circus within Higgy's
Police State. In order to insure that his latest so called "clients" pay
their two bits to watch the high diving act I have no doubt whatsoever
that Higgy et al will put their property assessment up ASAP and will
likely raise that of their new neighbours as well N'esy Pas?
Clem Tagliente
Reply to @David Amos: If the property values go up, then they need to reduce the tax rate.
Marc Martin
This
has happened a lot the last few months, real estate agent confirmed
this. Real estate agent are looking for houses to sell 3 of them asked
me if i wanted to sell my house via phone...
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Surprise Surprise Surprise
Clem
Tagliente
Reply to @David Amos: no surprise here, its the law of supply and demand and the law of entropy at work.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Clem
Tagliente: Methinks you have a lot to learn yet Trust that Higgy et al
know I still am still doing my homework N'esy Pas?
Danny Debdee
Nice story...but now you live in New Brunswick, put your kids at a serious disadvantage too. Tough call
Agata
Haueisen
Reply to @Danny Debdee: how so?
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Agata
Haueisen: Because the education they will receive is possibly the lowest
in North
American but definitely the lowest in Canada.
Wilson Rose
Reply to @Danny Debdee: Please explain.
Wilson Rose
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: I didn't know that.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Wilson Rose: Thats cuz we prolly wint to skool here too dumm to figer it out
Chris
Halford
Reply to @Danny Debdee:
Not so much in Fredericton.
Not so much in Fredericton.
Chris
Halford
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
I doubt your facts.
I doubt your facts.
Chris
Halford
Reply to @Wilson Rose:
Because it's not true. It might be true in Canada but certainly not in NA, particularly as Betty De Vos continues the process of killing American public education.
Because it's not true. It might be true in Canada but certainly not in NA, particularly as Betty De Vos continues the process of killing American public education.
Danny Debdee
Reply to @Chris
Halford: I’m not quoting facts, just a common sense opinion. Poorest
province in the country, means what? Education, health, jobs potential,
extra curricular activities, etc...all are not equal to Ontario, Quebec,
Alberta, BC, Sask...
Stephan
Sommers
Reply to @Chris Halford: Do some homework for yourself.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Stephan
Sommers: Methinks I can trust the fact that Higgy et al and the dude who
now calls himself "Ray" and his many buddies in the RCMP know that I
diligently do my homework all day long and half the night as well N'esy
Pas?
SarahRose Werner
Lots
of people complaining that their Charter rights were supposedly
infringed because they couldn't come and be tourists in Atlantic Canada
this summer. What the Charter actually assures is the right to *live
and work* in any province. This couple wanted to come live in New
Brunswick and they found a way to make that happen. No infringement of
Charter rights here!
The last thing I would buy without looking at it is a used house.Chris
Halford
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Same comment as to John Sievers, nothing to do with this story. Air Canada is trying to push for the end of two week quarantines for people arriving from overseas (self-serving to get more bums in seats) and to rely instead on testing. If AC succeeds that could put pressure on Atlantic Canada and the Territories to end two week isolations. How come NB cases suddenly jumped to 22? That might make the Atlantic Bubble pop.
Same comment as to John Sievers, nothing to do with this story. Air Canada is trying to push for the end of two week quarantines for people arriving from overseas (self-serving to get more bums in seats) and to rely instead on testing. If AC succeeds that could put pressure on Atlantic Canada and the Territories to end two week isolations. How come NB cases suddenly jumped to 22? That might make the Atlantic Bubble pop.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Chris
Halford: Everything to do with this story. The story illustrates that
people who want to *live and work* in NB are still able to do so. Their
Charter rights have not been infringed. People who are whining about
their Charter rights being infringed because they couldn't come here to
play at being tourists need to re-read the Charter.
John Grail
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Problem is, not everyone (in fact I would suspect very few)
would move to a place without ever having seen it. So you are putting
stipulations/infringements on those charter rights.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @John Grail: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on that opinion N'esy Pas?John Grail
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Also I would be curious to know what the definitions of "live"
are. Can you visit to look for a house? Technically you are "living"
here if you are simply visiting anyway. You are being alive whilst here.
Vernon McPhee
Reply to @John Grail:
Like many words in English "live" can mean different things depending
on context but in any case the charter does not mention "live" it says
"Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a
permanent resident of Canada has the right
a) to move to and take up residence in any province; and
b) to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province."
a) to move to and take up residence in any province; and
b) to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province."
John Grail
Reply to @Vernon
McPhee: So I would argue part of the "moving" process is looking at
houses. Stopping people from doing that would be an infringement on
their Charter rights.
Ben
Haroldson
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: Methinks it would depend on the price if it is cheap enough
because the dirt and the location are what is important not only to the
Crown and I. If the property especially it still holds a Kings Land
Grant in New Brunswick awarded from 1784 to 1997 I would love to have
it. However the Irving Clan seem to scoop every one no matter the price
N'esy Pas?Clem Tagliente
Reply to @David Amos: care to explain what the kings land grant is all about, never heard of it.
John Grail
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I guess when the price of the house is 1/2-1/3 the price, who needs to see it, right?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Clem Tagliente: Go Figure
https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/RS686/default.aspx?culture=en-CA
https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/RS686/default.aspx?culture=en-CA
Johnny Jakobs
NB should adopt the policies of PEI when it comes to out of province buyers.
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: The world is going global. This could save the Atlantic provinces.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Non Canadians, sure thing..
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Dream On Maggy
Jos Allaire
Reply to @David Amos: I hear ya Sue.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Who is your Daddy now?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You tell me Mr. Private Investigator..
Harvey York
Reply to @Ray Oliver: little Dave can do his homework all he wants, he'll still never pass the test
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