Oh My I must ask out of the gate how many of my comments will CBC block today and how many fake likes and dislikes will be allowed to be posted by the Trolls?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-premiers-polling-1.4208405

Which premiers are secure and which ones are worried at premiers' conference

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David Raymond Amos

Oh My I must ask out of the gate how many of my comments will CBC block today and how many fake likes and dislikes will be allowed to be posted by the Trolls?

Ed Boyd

@David Raymond Amos As well as obvious fake names which is against stated CBC policy. There is even one who flaunts the name openly as being a pseudonym. Naturally this poster defends the party line!

David Raymond Amos

@Ed Boyd I have complained to CBC about it and to the CRTC about them I even got answers in writing from the CRTC and Minister Joly. Yet still they do nothing other than invite me to sue the Crown again which I will.

See for yourself (That is if CBC allows this comment N'esy Pas Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly?)

https://www.scribd.com/document/317811875/Melanie-Joly-vs-Hubby-Lacroix

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David Raymond Amos

@Ed Boyd HMMMM

http://business.financialpost.com/telecom/government-to-name-industry-veteran-ian-scott-as-new-head-of-the-crtc/wcm/efe23560-b77f-4d04-a476-865f138edf0c

RE Fake News and the Internet ask yourself why the Bell Canada (We know what they own) legal dept took about 4 days to print my documents in 2004 while the Harper, Trudeau, the CRTC and the CBC laughed at me.

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/08/re-bce-and-jean-pierre-blais-of-crtc.html

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To: "jean-pierre.blais" jean-pierre.blais@crtc.gc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com; pm@pm.gc.ca;
justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:08 AM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: RE BCE, Cogeco, Quebecor, Astral and Jean-Pierre Blais of the CRTC

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos FYI CBC should know by now as soon as they blocked me I picked up the phone

Al Smith

@Al Smith And now the bot will down vote this post 20 times, manipulation of the comment section by auto down voting conservatives while the CBC stands by and does nothing. It's the equivalent of fake news.

David Raymond Amos

@Al Smith CBC was fake news even when Harper was in power and cutting their funding as well. Never forget Harper appointed the lawyer Hubby Lacroix to be the boss and he made certain that CBC denied that I was running in Fundy Royal again just like in 2004 (I ran in 5 elections and CBC denied it every time)

Go Figure

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

However the most watched debate in Rogers was mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-ustr-negotiating-objectives-monday-1.4208459

Richard Nichols

@David Raymond Amos

Perhaps 'Independents' are treated that way in all ridings...?

David Raymond Amos

@Richard Nichols Nope just me. However methinks all the Trolls and the CBC Moderators playing games in a Crown Corp's comment section funded by taxpayer dollars should start checking my work ASAP. This is no joke

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/07/re-crtc-reference-770193-and-pending.html

David Raymond Amos

@Al Smith Anybody but me and the CBC moderators notice that after they buried all of my comments CBC closed this comment section down over one hour too soon?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-ustr-negotiating-objectives-monday-1.4208459



Bryan Cassidy

Wynne, worst Premier in the history of Canadian politics.

Amy G. Bahned

@Bryan Cassidy

Actually that would be Grant Devine.

David Raymond Amos

@Amy G. Bahned Ontario ain't the only province Methinks folks in Alberta would mention such names as Rachel Notley, Alison Redford and Jimmy Prentice and folks in New brunswick would like to talk of Shawn Graham and David Alward N'esy Pas?

 

Rob Shea

Let's see....

Wynne - Done!
Notley - Done!
Wall - Shaky Ground
Pallister - He's alright.

Wynne and Notley are going to be anialated in the next election. Two complete failures.

Amy G. Bahned

@Rob Shea

Notley has done excellent work holding our province together during incredibly difficult times. She will be re-elected.

David Raymond Amos

@Amy G. Bahned Wanna bet?

 
david mccaig

I would think that conservative premier Brad Wall is VERY concerned because he's one of those right wing climate deniers whose been pushing carbon come 'hell or high water' and now he's finding himself in a very LONELY position as planet temperatures keep soaring and south Florida at high tide keeps getting inundated with sea water.

Dimitri Stantos

@Don Smith

LOL The 'do as I say but not as I do' guy? The fellow who made his millions, like Gore', pushing the false narrative of the Climate Scam and scaring children that Santa's house is melting and to get their parents to send $$$ to his 'foundation'? That guy?

Gregory James (Political Junkie)

@david mccaig
The south Florida thing....happens all the time. Been a natural occurrence in the fall for decades.
That where Al Gore got his stupid reference to "seeing fish swimming in the streets of Miami"
Because it does happen....not in Miami but south of Miami.
Nothing new or alarming about this.

Now if Gore hasn't actually seen fish swimming in the streets of Miami because he is a flat out full of BS but had he don't you think it would make the news that all of downtown Miami was underwater?

Hell, I've seen fish on the streets in rural Kentucky too.....because they opened the floodgates on the dam and the fish ended up on the street.
Maybe Al Gore can talk about the woes of Kentucky being underwater too.

David Raymond Amos

@Dimitri Stantos We share the same opinion of the sneaky lawyer Mr Gore

 Henri Bianchi

Don't blame me - I didn't vote for Wynne.

Dimitri Stantos

@Warren Courtney

You just can't fix stupid.

David Raymond Amos

@Dimitri Stantos True However we have an expression in the Maritimes.that I should inform you of.

"You can't fool me because I am too stupid"

Joe Cluster

Wynne will act like she's totally oblivious that her ranking in the polls has bottomed out amongst the voters in Ontario.

Richard Nichols

@Joe Cluster

I think the LIBS feel they are toast and why waste a new leader. Start anew after the election loss and anoint a new leader and start a fresh cycle.

I think they could dump Wynne, appoint an interim leader and still win even if it is a minority - Horwath and Brown do not have complete voter confidence, by any means

David Raymond Amos

@Richard Nichols Not a bad idea but the liberals are too stuck on the feminist/aboriginal/gay agenda to think things through.

In my humble opinion Trudeau "The Younger" didn't win the last election. Harper lost his bid to split the left wing vote like he did with the 41st Parliament First there was an orange wave that swamped the Liberals then a red wave that swamped Harper. It appears to me that the liberals are hoping if they keep a tight ship and maintain course the vote will be split between the neo cons and the dippers in Ontario and they will get another mandate. It may work.

For what it is worth my two bits are on the neo cons winning a minority mandate but whichever way it goes I will enjoy the circus. Two bits don't go very far these days anyway. At least I may see a High Diving Act just like my childhood hero Yosemite Sam kept demanding to see.

 

Al. Dunn

First Nations leaders are whinging once again..this time saying they'll boycott the Premiers meeting.
Isn't a "premiers meeting" for provincial premiers?
As far as I know, the AFN etc. are not "premiers"

Dimitri Stantos

@Al. Dunn

They are all dependent children, and the government continues to enable this behaviour while the 'Chiefs' rake in millions in tax-payer money to the detriment of their own people.

David Raymond Amos

@Dimitri Stantos In my opinion they are just lobbying in their own way as they have the right to do. Many First Nations folks like me don't bother to vote. Until the party system is turfed what would be the point?

 Eliza Egan 

I don't care if you're left or right, if you're not sick of Wynne it's only because you haven't been paying attention. She is a disaster. Her government is a disaster. the amount of waste her government has been responsible for is irresponsible and if she had any decency she'd resign and so would everyone who has worked closely with her to get Ontario into this mess.

I beg of my fellow Ontarians, I don't care if you vote NDP or PC. I don't care if you vote for the Communist Party or the Christian Family Coalition. Vote for the Pink Elephant Party but please do not cast a vote for the Ontario Liberals!

Michael Ehrmantraut

@Eliza Egan if your not sick of wynne, it's isn't because you haven't been paying attention, it's because you haven't been paying heating bills.

David Raymond Amos

@Michael Ehrmantraut What is with this Wynne hate fest? She ain't the only questionable provincial party boss chowing down in Edmonton.

  

Randy lehee

Saskatchewan! don't put ndp in charge like manitoba did.Just look at the mess and debt they left behind.Its not good.

M.Ann Morwood

@Don Luft

NDP's in-house fighting brought them down! And just before the election all over the News!

David Raymond Amos

@M.Ann Morwood Perhaps folks should Google two names

David Amos Brad Wall

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-ustr-trump-renegotiation-1.4208794
 

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:49:36 -0400
Subject: Attn Troy Mann and David Barr RE Pensions and CBC and IT dudes blocking me etc etc I called earlier I truly believe this is you within CBC
To: Troy.Mann@gnb.ca, John.Sinclair@nbimc.com, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com,  mckeen.randy@gmail.com, David.Coon@gnb.ca, Davidc.Coon@gmail.com, leader@greenparty.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, David.Barr@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Cyril.Theriault@gmail.com, postur@for.is, Bill.Morneau@canada.ca

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@Troy Mann "You don't so shouldn't the media and the elected officials
get to the bottom of it?"

Hmmm where do I begin. How about CBC's "Fake News" buddies in CNN?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-lawyers/index.html

CBC knows for a fact that I crossed paths with the latest US Special
Counsel Robert Mueller and his boyz in the FBI bigtime way back in
2002.

Just Google three names and start reading

Robert Mueller David Amos CBC

I know for a fact that Mueller is a crook and proved it long ago. Why
do you think I sued the Yankee Feds in 2002 and then ran for pubic
office in Canada five times thus far?

If you doubt me then read pages 1 and 2 of this ancient file

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER

David Raymond Amos
@Troy Mann Trust that I tried to answer your question

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/treasury_board/human_resources/content/pensions_and_benefits/content/vestcor1.html

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/dept_renderer.202525.html#contacts

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/ohr-brh/pdf/pensions/general/vcbm-e.pdf

http://www.vestcor.org/en.html

TROY MANN FCGA, FCPA
Chief Executive Officer
Vestcor Pension Services Corporation
Phone : (506) 453-2296
Fax : (506) 457-7388
Email : Troy.Mann@gnb.ca

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 05:46:56 +0000
Subject: RE: Well your old buddy George Soros and her pals in the
National Bank of Canada can never claim that your new friend Julie
Payette did not know now Nesy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The
Younger"?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
To: coi@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

Good Day Sir

After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
to speak to one of your staff for the first time

Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.

These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
suggested that you study closely.

This is the docket in Federal Court

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T

These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings

Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug

January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015

April 3rd, 2017

https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing


This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All


The only hearing thus far

May 24th, 2017

https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown


This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity

Date: 20151223

Docket: T-1557-15

Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015

PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell

BETWEEN:

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS

Plaintiff

and

HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN

Defendant

ORDER

(Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
December 14, 2015)

The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
in its entirety.

At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
(now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
he stated:

As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
You are your brother’s keeper.

Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
Police.

In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
[1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.


AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
is no order as to costs.

“B. Richard Bell”
Judge


Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.

 I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?

"FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html

83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:

January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate

December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!

Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau?


Vertias Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.

Subject:
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

January 30, 2007

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Mr. David Amos

Dear Mr. Amos:

This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.

Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.

Sincerely,

Honourable Michael B. Murphy
Minister of Health

CM/cb


Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:

Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
"Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not

Dear Mr. Amos,

Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.

As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.

As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.

It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.

 Sincerely,

Warren McBeath, Cpl.
GRC Caledonia RCMP
Traffic Services NCO
Ph: (506) 387-2222
Fax: (506) 387-4622
E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca


http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139

http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc


FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
Senator Arlen Specter
United States Senate
Committee on the Judiciary
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Mr. Specter:

I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that
these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact
with you about this previously.

Very truly yours,
Barry A. Bachrach
Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com



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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 21:31:25 -0400
Subject: RE Federal Court File no T-1557-15 I just called you all then
talked to CST Dube of Security at 613 995 6425 Now have your lawyers
call me back sometime soon
To: Rachel.Blaney@parl.gc.ca, Rachel.Blaney.c1@parl.gc.ca,
danadurnford@hotmail.com, Sheri.Benson@parl.gc.ca,
Sheri.Benson.c1@parl.gc.ca, Daniel.Blaikie@parl.gc.ca,
Daniel.Blaikie.c1@parl.gc.ca, Richard.Cannings@parl.gc.ca,
Richard.Cannings.c1@parl.gc.ca, cd1 ,
Scott.Duvall@parl.gc.ca, Scott.Duvall.c1@parl.gc.ca,
web@cogecomedia.com, ministre , Ezra@therebel.media, Benjamin.Shingler@cbc.ca, Karina.Roman@cbc.ca,
hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Bill.Morneau@canada.ca

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cpp-disabled-women-penalize-1.3864498

Canada Pension Plan expansion 'penalizes' women, the disabled, says
the opposition

NDP accuse Liberals of quashing potential fix of 'flawed' bill because
it would increase costs
By Karina Roman, CBC News Posted: Nov 23, 2016 8:44 PM ET

"Was this deliberately done or was it an oversight? I'm still having
that debate in my head," said NDP MP Scott Duvall.

The expanded pension plan, under Bill C-26, will sit on top of the
existing CPP, boosting retirement benefits over time, but it will be
calculated separately, and differently, from the current CPP, which
will remain unchanged by the bill. "

---------- Original message----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 13:06:35 -0400
Subject: RE Mean Old Me attempting to talk to NDP MP Newbies and
Cogeco's sneaky lawyers as well about the Libranos actions against me
over the years
To: Rachel.Blaney@parl.gc.ca, Rachel.Blaney.c1@parl.gc.ca,
danadurnford@hotmail.com, Sheri.Benson@parl.gc.ca,
Sheri.Benson.c1@parl.gc.ca, Daniel.Blaikie@parl.gc.ca,
Daniel.Blaikie.c1@parl.gc.ca, Richard.Cannings@parl.gc.ca,
Richard.Cannings.c1@parl.gc.ca, cd1@connectingdots1.com,
Scott.Duvall@parl.gc.ca, Scott.Duvall.c1@parl.gc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, web@cogecomedia.com,
ministre Benjamin.Shingler@cbc.ca

I called most of you NDP MP Newbies last week but only Erin Weir got
back to me WHY?

Scott Duvall MP
555 Concession Street (Main Office)
 Unit 2, Level 2
Hamilton, Ontario L8V 1A8
Telephone: 905-574-3331
Hill 613-995-9389



---------- Original message----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 20:23:33 -0400
Subject: Re: RE Federal Court File no T-1557-15 I just called you all
then talked to CST Dube of Security at 613 995 6425 Now have your
lawyers call me back sometime soon
To: Cheryl.Hardcastle@parl.gc.ca, Cheryl.Hardcastle.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Gord.Johns@parl.gc.ca, Gord.Johns.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Georgina.Jolibois@parl.gc.ca, Georgina.Jolibois.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Jenny.Kwan@parl.gc.ca, Jenny.Kwan.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Alistair.MacGregor@parl.gc.ca, Alistair.MacGregor.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Sheila.Malcolmson@parl.gc.ca, Sheila.Malcolmson.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Tracey.Ramsey@parl.gc.ca, Tracey.Ramsey.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Brigitte.Sansoucy@parl.gc.ca, Brigitte.Sansoucy.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Wayne.Stetski@parl.gc.ca, Wayne.Stetski.c1@parl.gc.ca,
Karine.Trudel@parl.gc.ca, Karine.Trudel.c1@parl.gc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca,  pm@pm.gc.ca,
rona.ambrose@parl.gc.ca

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 20:09:21 -0400
Subject: Attn Wayne.Stetski do you and Cst Dube wanna laugh at me now?
To: Wayne.Stetski@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, rona.ambrose@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca

---------- Original message ----------
From: Wayne.Stetski@parl.gc.ca
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Subject: Automatic reply: RE Federal Court File no T-1557-15 I just
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Thursday, 24 November 2016
I swear that the NDP are biggest bunch of whimps holding public office anywhere on earth

Troy Mann

@John Taylor

Interesting post, how do you know for 100% certain the Russian connection is "fake"?

You don't so shouldn't the media and the elected officials get to the bottom of it? I'm ok with innocent till proven guilty but I'm not ok with not investigating someone because they say they are innocent.

 

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David Raymond Amos 

@Troy Mann "You don't so shouldn't the media and the elected officials get to the bottom of it?"

Hmmm where do I begin. How about CBC's "Fake News" buddies in CNN?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-lawyers/index.html

CBC knows for a fact that I crossed paths with the latest US Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his boyz in the FBI bigtime way back in 2002.

Just Google three names and start reading

Robert Mueller David Amos CBC

I know for a fact that Mueller is a crook and proved it long ago. Why do you think I sued the Yankee Feds in 2002 and then ran for pubic office in Canada five times thus far?

If you doubt me then read pages 1 and 2 of this ancient file

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER

 

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David Raymond Amos

@Troy Mann FYI CBC blocked my other response to your question to Mr Taylor

"Interesting post, how do you know for 100% certain the Russian connection is "fake"?"

Trust that I love to argue law etc in public but its rather hard to do when a questionable Crown Corp blocks my comments for political reasons.

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David Raymond Amos

@Troy Mann CBC just blocked a second comment to you. Methinks you must be somebody special to their minions. I must ask could that have to do with pension plans?

George Thorpe

What a surprise... Trump is all talk. Who would have ever guessed?

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David Raymond Amos

@George Thorpe I didn't need to guess. However I was much confused by his popularity many years before he finally ran for public office. If he couldn't fool folks with his strange hair I pondered how he could fool them about anything else. I guess old Pt Barnum put it best.

"People want to see a circus, so you give them a circus"

I do declare that it was kinda weird to me the Greatest Show On Earth ended just after the clown Trump took center stage.

 

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos It was rather interesting that your moderators blocked that comment about Trump N'esy Pas Hubby Lacriox and Minister Joly?

 
Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)

I don't want to buy $800 worth of goods from the States if it means we lose our rights as Canadians to stand up to America on our softwood lumber, or their drug laced milk.

David Raymond Amos

@Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite) Methinks the folks in New Brunswick are about to get thrown under the bus

David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos Anybody but me notice CBC closed this comment section early?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-ustr-negotiating-objectives-monday-1.4208459

Methinks this is the reason why

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/07/oh-my-i-must-ask-out-of-gate-how-many.html

John Grosso

@Rick James Did you even bother to read what you wrote before hitting the submit button?

Most of us in Canada love the united states and its people. I travel regularly to Florida, South Carolina and West Virgina and the people there are a hell of a lot more friendly and down to earth then i find around Toronto. Keep the hate to yourself. If you cant afford to go don't take it out on the rest of us.

 

David Raymond Amos

@John Grosso True most folks are just folks. They suffer from the actions of crooked politicians and their greedy corporate buddies just like we do

Al. C Hill

@Kristoffer Luukski Gildenlöw the Americans want the snowbirds to stay longer in the USA becasue they spend money and if the USA agrees to relax a couple of their laws the snowbirds will start buying property....

David Raymond Amos

@Al. C Hill Somebody should tell Trump lots of Snowbirds like to golf and spend money. Then things will change

David Raymond Amos

@Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite) And so it closes

 
Fred Garvin

Does he mean the dispute mechanism whose judgements we normally adhere to, but when it (frequently) goes against the Americans, that they ignore the judgement anyway? That dispute mechanism?

David Raymond Amos

@Fred Garvin True Remember the Yankee Senator Max Baucus?

Cecil Nagy

Take back Canadian sovereignty, eliminate the right of US companies to sue because of Canadian policy changes

Jack O Hill

@Cecil Nagy

"Take back Canadian sovereignty, eliminate the right of US companies to sue because of Canadian policy changes"

Think that through.

If an international corporation invests in Canada in good faith, and then the government passes legislation that now causes them to lose money, then, yes, they need to have the right to compensation.

If you believe that they should not have that right, then you are saying you do not want their investment. That means that all of the car plants will get shut down, for starters.

David Raymond Amos

@Jack O Hill I recall a lawsuit where we permitted the Yankees to do business in Canada then they sued us for unfair competition pursuant to NAFTA. Was that fair?

http://www.international.gc.ca/trade-agreements-accords-commerciaux/topics-domaines/disp-diff/parcel.aspx?lang=eng

Troy Mann

@David Raymond Amos

Yes it is fair for them to use the procedures in place for disputes. The outcome was fair as well.

"The Tribunal, by a majority, dismissed all of UPS’ claims and ordered the disputing parties to bear the costs of the arbitration in equally."

Are you suggesting elimination of dispute tribunals?

David Raymond Amos

@Troy Mann The bear the cost equally part when the complaint was vexatious. Perhaps you should check my work I am suing the Crown right now.

 

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David Raymond Amos

@Troy Mann FYI CBC blocked my other response to your question to Mr Taylor

"Interesting post, how do you know for 100% certain the Russian connection is "fake"?"

Trust that I love to argue law etc in public but its rather hard to do when a questionable Crown Corp blocks my comments for political reasons.

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David Raymond Amos

@Troy Mann CBC just blocked a second comment to you. Methinks you must be somebody special to their minions. I must ask could that have to do with pension plans?

 

David Raymond Amos

@Troy Mann Trust that I tried to answer your question

 
John Taylor

Trump's been a great President.

He's tough, but fair.

The media should stop this fake Russia stuff.

Give Trump a chance.

David Raymond Amos

@John Taylor Methinks the only decent thing Trump has done thus far was stop the Clintons from camping in the Oval Office again
 

Troy Mann

@John Taylor

Interesting post, how do you know for 100% certain the Russian connection is "fake"?

You don't so shouldn't the media and the elected officials get to the bottom of it? I'm ok with innocent till proven guilty but I'm not ok with not investigating someone because they say they are innocent.

 

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David Raymond Amos 

@Troy Mann "You don't so shouldn't the media and the elected officials get to the bottom of it?"

Hmmm where do I begin. How about CBC's "Fake News" buddies in CNN?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-lawyers/index.html

CBC knows for a fact that I crossed paths with the latest US Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his boyz in the FBI bigtime way back in 2002.

Just Google three names and start reading

Robert Mueller David Amos CBC

I know for a fact that Mueller is a crook and proved it long ago. Why do you think I sued the Yankee Feds in 2002 and then ran for pubic office in Canada five times thus far?

If you doubt me then read pages 1 and 2 of this ancient file

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER

 
Dale Sullivan

Trump's rhetoric before the election was all about drumming up emotions. He doesn't understand foreign policy, trade, or anything other than real estate. He just wants continual adoration and rounds of golf. At some point his supporters will realize it, but they will never admit it.

Ian Smyth

@Dale Sullivan we live in an us vs. them society. Until the governing bodies check their egos and cooperate for the benefit of their constituents politicians will be able to re-neg on almost anything and still receive support. The system is broken and the masses blind.

David Raymond Amos

@Ian Smyth Sad but true

 
Walter Adams

The Trump administration has no real plans. They have some desires but they've never articulated plans to accomplish any of them and they don't engage professionals.

Canada has a professional negotiating capability that is non-partisan and disciplined. they'll represent our interests while Trudeau has enlisted a group pf people like Mulroney and Doer (Progressive Conservative and New Democrat) to work together to safeguard our national interests.

John Myro

@Walter Adams

You are claiming JT had a plan? LMHO so many promises and so many broken

David Raymond Amos

@John Myro I just got off the floor and my belly hurts from laughing at Mr Adam's obvious propaganda

Mark stanford

Please CBC please open commenting up to more than just trump reports , were all sick of commenting on what trump thinks or does.

David Allan

@Mark stanford

If I don't like what a restaurant serves, I don't go back.

I suggest you employ this basic and adult right of discretion.

David Raymond Amos

@David Allan We are paying for this meal Get it?

David Raymond Amos

@Mark stanford Open Commenting? Right now CBC is blocking more of my comments than they are permitting. Methinks CBC needs ethical oversight ASAP N'esy Pas Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly?

  

Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)

Cue the seditious, pusillanimous Refo(ooo)rmacons that want to see Canada fail just because we have a Prime Minister that isn't from their party.

Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)

@David S. Foley

Translation:
"I can't stay on topic, and just proved Lawrence right."

How EXACTLY do you think Canada would win with Trudeau losing, when Trudeau is our Prime Minister?

Thanks for playing, Dave!

David Raymond Amos

@Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite) Another Dave wants to play too.

Methinks if Trudeau "The Younger" is finally held accountable for his false promises and questionable actions everybody wins.

I said some things into the Parliamentary Record to the traveling roadshow called the ERRE Committee last October.

http://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/ERRE/meeting-39/minutes

Why not ask Trudeau or the MPs if I was wrong?

George Thorpe

What a surprise... Trump is all talk. Who would have ever guessed?

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David Raymond Amos

@George Thorpe I didn't need to guess. However I was much confused by his popularity many years before he finally ran for public office. If he couldn't fool folks with his strange hair I pondered how he could fool them about anything else. I guess old Pt Barnum put it best.

"People want to see a circus, so you give them a circus"

I do declare that it was kinda weird to me the Greatest Show On Earth ended just after the clown Trump took center stage.

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David Raymond Amos

@David Raymond Amos It was rather interesting that your moderators blocked that comment about Trump N'esy Pas Hubby Lacriox and Minister Joly?

 

Terry Schein

This must be rather depressing for the automatic knee-jerk anti-Trump crowd.
I'm sure they had all kinds of vitriol ready to disperse but now are somewhat empty-handed.

Robin Blair

@Terry Schein

For a nothingburger this comment sure attracted a lot of down votes. From 14 to 54 in about 10 seconds while I was watching.

Used to be the Trumpettes that rigged the voting. I guess now the other side has figured out how to do it too.

David Raymond Amos

@Robin Blair Ya think CBC would put a stop to the nonsense but nope they are too busy blocking comments for political reasons

Trump administration reveals goals ahead of NAFTA talks with Canada, Mexico

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Amy G. Bahned

This should prove entertaining.

I'm sure The Republicans are as prepared for this as they were for healthcare reform.

David Raymond Amos

@Amy G. Bahned Ya gotta love the circus

David Raymond Amos

@Arlond Lynds "I have come to the only logical conclusion that the moderator is complicit and may in fact have the sanction of the CBC."

Me Too

david mccaig

@David Raymond Amos

Don't necessarily blame the moderators , they've got a tough job at the best of times. Actually who i think is really responsible for scrubbing comments , perhaps manipulating the voting tally , is the dozen or so Harper management who were doing this very same while Harper was in power. Most times if the comments got a little to truthful and cutting against the right wing, you'd see a major purge.It happened to me a couple of years ago, i got so frustrated by knowingly participating in a fraudulent CBC web site , that i quit and moved on to international and American web sites like Thom Hartmann.

David Raymond Amos

@david mccaig Do you know who I am? If not perhaps you should Google me. Trust that Google will offer links half way through Raymond

 

pat fisher

Trump wants to return to the 1970s when tariffs were high, Mexico had no industry, China was agrarian, he was young and groping was easier.

Alex Norris

@pat fisher

I'd love a return to the 70's.

Music was so much better then.

David Raymond Amos 

@Alex Norris I too recall the late sixties early seventies rather fondly.

Back in the 1970's when the Bank of Canada upheld its mandate our nation debt was almost non existent and we owed the dough to ourselves.

However Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Elder" fixed that for the benefit of his bankster pals and by the early 1980's I recall how much interest I was paying trying to keep my business above water while Canadian banks suffered from loans made to failing firms such as Dome Petroleum and Massey-Ferguson, and to Mexico, Brazil, and Poland.

Read more: http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/35/The-Bank-of-Nova-Scotia.html#ixzz4n8AoQRVb

David Raymond Amos

@William Boyd Howcome folks don't like it when I say the same things as you?

 

Juan Podrido

Trump called NAFTA the "worst trade deal in history."
This from the man who on numerous occasions has demonstrated that he is about as much of an authority on history as Kid Rock is on epicurean dining etiquette.

David Raymond Amos

@Juan Podrido Methinks Trump and Kid Rock don't care about epicurean dining etiquette. In fact neither do I and I ain't a fan of either of them.

  

Johan Smith

Given at how ineffective Trump and the Republicans have been at any legislation beyond executive orders, and the 35% support numbers, the smart move by Canada would be to consult, talk, formulate, consult, talk formulate, ...rinse, wash, repeat until the 2020 defeat.

 

Garry Cyr

@Johan Smith
Trump is less effective than Obama and Obama had to contend with a Republican led Congress. If the Dems take over Congress in 2018, Trump will have much less power.

LOL

David Raymond Amos

@Garry Cyr That is a distinct possibility

  

Wessex Smith

Take all the time you need, Donald.
Your presidency has a life expectancy of about five minutes at this point, and no one in any of the three countries involved is going to let you wreck a very good trade agreement just so you can continue to deflect attention away from your own political, business and personal doom.

Alex Keith

@Wessex Smith
I think Trump is a doofus, however if you believe he is not going to be president for the next 7 yrs, you have been listening to the wrong people. The Democrats are losing more and more supporters as they chase these tin foil hat conspiracy theories. They should focus more on things like the economy, immigration, etc. These are things that real people care about.

Hilary Clinton LOST the election, Trump didn't win it.

Charles Knowlton

@Wessex Smith

Except there's that little problem of Trump's party having control over all three branches of government now and likely after 2018 too, so with executive order he can pretty much do whatever he wants at this point.

David Raymond Amos

@Wessex Smith In all sincerity I am far from a fan of his but I do hope Trump follows through on his bluff and turfs NAFTA

 

Kevin Graves (AKA Jaspersdad)

This has nothing to do with free trade and everything to do with putting more ameros in his billionaire friends pockets.

 

David Raymond Amos

@Kevin Graves (AKA Jaspersdad) Methinks everybody knows that

Which premiers are secure and which ones are worried at premiers' conference

Electoral fortunes undoubtedly on the mind of more than few premiers at this week's Edmonton conference

By Éric Grenier, CBC News Posted: Jul 18, 2017 5:00 AM ET 

Premiers Kathleen Wynne (left) and Rachel Notley (right) have the odds stacked against them when the next go to the polls, while John Horgan, B.C.'s premier-designate, has a narrow governing majority to maintain. (The Canadian Press)

As the premiers gather for the Council of the Federation this week, some of them have more political worries back home than others.

The meeting  in Edmonton will see provincial and territorial leaders tackle pressing national issues, including trade with the United States and the legalization of marijuana. But some premiers are facing serious political difficulties and may have to say goodbye to their colleagues around the premiers' table sooner rather than later.

Premier Brian Pallister of Manitoba doesn't need to face the electorate again until 2020. After ousting a 17-year NDP government in 2016, his Progressive Conservatives do not appear to be in any impending trouble. The party enjoyed a 12-point lead over the New Democrats in the latest Probe/Winnipeg Free Press poll.

Pallister has also averaged a net +6 rating (approval minus disapproval) in the most recent approval ratings surveys by the Angus Reid Institute (ARI) and Mainstreet Research.

There's no polling data available for the territorial leaders, who will also be at the meeting this week.

Maritime premiers breathe easy

The premier of Prince Edward Island, Wade MacLauchlan, is similarly secure. His Liberals have averaged an 11-point lead over the opposition PCs in the province, and Mainstreet pegged his net approval at +6.
Nova Scotia's Stephen McNeil just won re-election in May, the first premier to secure a second consecutive majority government in the province since 1988. Accordingly, he doesn't have to worry about re-election until at least 2021.

His neighbouring premier, however, will face voters much sooner. The next election in New Brunswick will be held in September 2018.

New Brunswick Premier Brian Gallant next faces the electorate in September 2018. (The Canadian Press / Andrew Vaughan)

Brian Gallant's polling numbers are mixed. His Liberals enjoy an average 14-point lead over the opposition Tories. A majority of respondents in the last Corporate Research Associates poll said they were satisfied with the government's performance.

But polling by the ARI and Mainstreet suggests his net approval rating is -25.5, putting him in the bottom half of the country's premiers ranking. The province's linguistic geography also makes Gallant's support very inefficient — polls suggest the Liberals dominate among New Brunswick's francophones, while leading the PCs by only a narrow margin among anglophones.

This could make Gallant's lead in the polls look wider than it actually is in terms of his party's ability to win seats.

Down but not out

Nevertheless, his re-election may be safer than that of Philippe Couillard's Liberals in Quebec. The next election in that province is scheduled for October 2018.

With the brief exception of a Parti Québécois interregnum in 2012-14, the Liberals have been in power in Quebec since 2003. The Liberals are still leading in the polls, but just barely. The party is averaging a 3.5-point lead over the Coalition Avenir Québec, a lead that is precarious considering the Liberals' traditional dominance among Quebec anglophones, who are concentrated in only a handful of seats.

Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard next goes to the polls in October 2018. (Jacques Boissinot/Canadian Press)

Couillard's own approval ratings are poor at a net -22, but he and his party could still benefit from an opposition divided between the nationalist CAQ, sovereigntist PQ and left-wing Quebec Solidaire.

But the pressure Couillard is feeling from the CAQ, which advocates more powers for the province within confederation, plays no small part in his proposal to reopen constitutional negotiations — a proposal likely to be largely ignored around the premier's table this week.

For the first time since 2007, Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall's party has trailed the opposition NDP in the polls. (The Canadian Press / Liam Richards)

Saskatchewan's Brad Wall is also facing political pressure at home. While the province will not hold an election until 2020, Wall's Saskatchewan Party is experiencing something it hasn't since it first took office a decade ago: a close race with the opposition New Democrats.

The latest polls in the province average out to a one-point lead for the NDP, but surveys since an unpopular budget was presented earlier this year have ranged from a nine-point NDP advantage to a seven-point Saskatchewan Party edge. But that is a far cry from Wall's 32-point margin of victory in 2016.
Wall's approval rating has also fallen to a net -4.5. A year ago, it was +37.

Struggling for survival

A few premiers, however, would love to be in Wall's position.

After coming to power in a landslide victory in 2015, their handling of the financial situation in Newfoundland and Labrador has knocked Dwight Ball's Liberals back. The party trails the PCs by six points and Ball's own approval rating is a woeful -44.5 — raising questions about whether Ball will still be Liberal leader when the province goes back to the polls in 2019.

Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Dwight Ball has an average net approval rating of -44.5. (The Canadian Press / Andrew Vaughan)

The next premier scheduled to face voters is perhaps the one in the worst position. Ontario's next election is scheduled for June, and Liberal Kathleen Wynne is the least popular premier in the country. Her party trails Patrick Brown's PCs by an average of 9.5 points and her net approval rating is -55.

Also facing difficult re-election odds is the host of the premier's conference. Rachel Notley has an average net approval rating of -32 and has trailed in the polls since the end of 2015, just a few months after the NDP took office.

The New Democrats trailed the opposition Wildrose by 13 points in the last poll out of the province. But that margin could widen even further if Wildrose and the Progressive Conservatives merge to form a new party. Combined, the two parties were 42 points ahead of the NDP.

Even if every PC and Wildrose supporter does not back the proposed United Conservative Party, Notley will only see her chances of re-election get slimmer if the merger goes ahead. The two parties will hold a vote on the matter on Saturday.

The man who wasn't there

But the premier with perhaps the least job security in the country is the one premier who won't be present. British Columbia's John Horgan set his swearing-in date as the province's new premier for Tuesday.

The scheduling conflict means he will avoid (or at least delay) a potential separate conflict with Alberta's NDP premier over pipelines. That's a sensitive topic Horgan might be grateful to side-step. Heading up a government with a narrow one-seat majority propped up by three Green MLAs, B.C.'s incoming premier will be on the cusp of a new election campaign with every vote in the B.C. legislature.

In a snap election, the polls suggest that the NDP would find itself in the same position as it did on election night in May — a toss-up vote that might slightly favour the B.C. Liberals.

So for now, Horgan will be keeping his focus on the domestic scene. But he won't be the only premier preoccupied by goings-on at home.

After Trump's tough talk, NAFTA proposals look more like light reno than demolition

U.S. wants to scrap dispute mechanism, but it's 'nothing close to tearing up' the 3-way trade deal

By Matt Kwong, CBC News Posted: Jul 18, 2017 10:10 AM ET 

U.S. President Donald Trump wields a baseball bat as he participates in a Made in America product showcase at the White House in Washington, D.C., on Monday. His wish list of NAFTA objectives came as a relief in some quarters. (Carlos
Not long ago, U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump was trashing the North America Free Trade Agreement, threatening to "rip up" the whole "one-sided" deal once he got to the White House.

Instead, the NAFTA's new objectives under the Trump administration — offered in an 18-page summary released  Monday by the U.S. Trade Representative's Office — are surprisingly tame, according to international trade and customs experts.

They see as downright sensible the U.S. proposals calling for regulatory co-operation, the addition of a chapter to address the digital economy, raising the duty-free spending limit for Canadians, and even the scrapping of a dispute resolution mechanism.

"This is nothing close to tearing up the NAFTA," said Daniel Ujczo, an international trade lawyer who focuses on Canada-U.S. matters.

That ought to be a relief to Canada and Mexico, the other parties in the three-way deal, after charm offensives by both nations to preserve it. Officials from all three countries will meet in Washington Tuesday to review the negotiation objectives.

"It doesn't throw a lot of red meat for the protectionist crowd," Ujczo said, calling the notice a "well-balanced approach to the modernization" of a pact that came into force 23 years ago, before the ubiquity of the internet.

Trump told followers on social media that 'much will be accomplished this week on trade, the military and security!' He spent Sunday at the U.S. Women's Open Golf tournament at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J. (Carolyn Kaster/Associated Press)

U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer's  NAFTA objectives seem to borrow language from measures advocated for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

For example, references to digital trading of goods and services, as well as full integration of labour and environmental standards into NAFTA — as opposed to making them "side agreements" — are provisions similar to what was negotiated in the TPP, a deal that Trump had disparaged.

In a statement, Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat, called out the administration for "planning to come to the table with watered-down versions of TPP proposals," which he notes the president once said "was a bad agreement."

"The overall impression to be gleaned is not much is new," said Chi Carmody, the Canadian national director of the Canada – United States Law Institute at Western University in London, Ont.

Rebalancing trade deficit

"In the campaign, it was, 'We're going to do away with NAFTA,' and then Trump gets into office, and it was, 'Oh, we're going to renegotiate NAFTA,' Carmody said.

"And now, the renegotiation is more taking on the complexion of an updating. It's more expanding it than contracting it, which was the original bogeyman that Trump had floated in front of us."

To be sure, the top objective listed in Lighthizer's document mentions the need to "improve the U.S. trade balance and reduce the trade deficit with the NAFTA countries."

But there are no binding timelines or numbers stated on the wish list beyond this passing reference to "truly fair trade."

The U.S. trade deficit on goods with Mexico was $63.2 billion last year.

What we see in this document is a very trade law orthodox document. - Laura Dawson, the director for the Canada Institute at the Wilson Centre

Trump's biggest gift to Canadian consumers is lifting the so-called "de minimis" rate, raising the amount that can be shipped to Canada to $800 from $20 before online shoppers get dinged for duties. It would help promote the free flow of trade by popular services like Amazon or eBay.

But if that's a treat for Canadians, Ujczo said "the most specific negative aspect" is a section on trade remedies that calls for eliminating Chapter 19, the vehicle for resolving disputes over underpriced "dumping" of goods and countervailing duty claims.

That's been a big issue with respect to wheat, beef and pork products, and the binational panels have ruled in favour of Canada. Chapter 19 has also been used successfully by Canada in the long-running softwood lumber dispute.

Ujczo said Congress, which gets to approve the Trump administration's trade objectives before they can be negotiated, has long had Chapter 19 in its crosshairs. The U.S. trade czar's blueprint, however, still leaves open the door to "create new procedures" for resolving disputes at a later date.

In that respect, getting rid of Chapter 19 is nothing surprising, though Barry Appleton, an international trade attorney who advised the Ontario Cabinet Committee on North American Free Trade as the NAFTA was being negotiated, said the mechanism "was never really functioning very well anyways."

Canada's supply management dairy and poultry policies, an irritant for the U.S., were not expressly targeted. But there was a coded mention in a section on agriculture that the administration would "seek to eliminate non-tariff barriers to U.S. agricultural exports."

Supply management

Western University's Carmody said his sense is that the U.S. "appreciates the political sensitivity" of supply management in Canada, but "didn't want to get involved in a long, drawn-out struggle on this issue that might torpedo the negotiations."

This way, he said, the Trump administration would be able to claim success in the negotiations when Republicans face the U.S. electorate in midterms next year.

• Read the 18-page USTR release

There's also nothing controversial about tightening "country of origin" requirements, rules that spell out how much regional NAFTA-made content a product must contain to be tariff-free.

That was something Carmody said was an early worry for major automakers with plants in all three NAFTA countries. But the relevant language in the U.S. outline is "fairly weak," he said, only mentioning vaguely that U.S. negotiatiors will want to "update and strengthen the rules of origin, as necessary."

Trump, accompanied by Vice-President Mike Pence, gives a 'thumbs-up' from inside the cabin of a firetruck during a "Made in America," product showcase Monday on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington. (Martinez Monsivais/Associated Press)

Laura Dawson, the director for the Canada Institute at the Wilson Centre think-tank in Washington, D.C., said her initial take on reviewing the broad NAFTA renegotiation points was "a sense of relief."

"The rhetoric and the reality, they come from two very different camps," she said. "The rhetoric was very politicized. What we see in this document is a very trade-law-orthodox document."

It's also just a beginning. With the objectives now published and a meeting scheduled to review them in Washington on Tuesday, the table is set for formal negotiations to begin as early as mid-August.

Trump administration reveals goals ahead of NAFTA talks with Canada, Mexico

U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer's objectives include several tough measures for Canada

By Janyce McGregor, CBC News Posted: Jul 17, 2017 12:20 PM ET

 

President Donald Trump and Vice-President Mike Pence hosted a 'Made in America' event on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington Monday. Minutes later, his administration's NAFTA negotiating priorities were released. (Martinez Monsivais/Associated Press)

 United States Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer has released his negotiating objectives ahead of talks to revise the North American Free Trade Agreement next month, and several will pose problems for Canada at the bargaining table.

In an 18-page summary released Monday,  the USTR outlines how the U.S. will seek to eliminate NAFTA's Chapter 19 dispute resolution panels. Canada uses these to appeal duties on things like softwood lumber, and the elimination of the panels was perceived as a potential red line for Canadian negotiators heading into the talks, expected to begin Aug. 17.

American negotiators also want to exempt local and state governments from having to open up government contracts to Canadian and Mexican firms. That's something Canada hoped to achieve in this negotiation, similar to how subnational procurement is opened up to foreign companies in Canada's new trade deal with the European Union.

• Read the 18-page USTR release
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Softwood lumber is not mentioned by the USTR, but a single line on page 14 will draw the immediate attention of Canadian negotiators.

Canada is preparing to appeal punishing new anti-dumping and countervailing duties recently imposed by the U.S. Commerce Department on Canadian imports, unless an agreement can be reached to settle this latest flare-up in a long-running dispute between the two countries.

What the U.S. is now seeking would eliminate Canada's ability to appeal this move to a NAFTA dispute panel. Canada could still appeal to the World Trade Organization, but winning in NAFTA arbitration is preferable to ensure duties are returned to Canadian producers, something a WTO win does not guarantee.

"My initial take is a sense of relief, because what I see is traditional trade policy language using the existing rules of the road in ways that Canadian negotiators can deal with," Laura Dawson, the director for the Canada Institute at the Wilson Centre, told CBC News Network's Power & Politics.

But eliminating Chapter 19 dispute panels "is a major red-line issue for Canada," she said, pointing out it's the same issue that almost brought down the Canada-U.S. free trade negotiations in the late '80s.

"We've seen this before, but it's particularly painful for Canada when we are in the middle of a softwood lumber dispute," she said. "That's how we resolve dumping disputes. Without that, Canada's really got its hands tied."

Trump told his followers on social media that 'much will be accomplished this week on trade, the military and security!' He spent Sunday at the U.S. Women's Open Golf tournament at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J. (Carolyn Kaster/Associated Press)

While the U.S. is seeking to expand its ability to sell U.S. products and services to Canadian and Mexican governments, its proposal for fair and non-discriminatory government procurement appears to be limited to certain federal contracting.

The objective is to exclude sub-federal governments from any commitments that are negotiated. Domestic purchasing preferences would continue to be allowed in U.S. states and cities, including preferences for small businesses, women, minorities, veterans and other "distressed areas."

"Buy America" requirements are also meant to be exempt, as is procurement by the U.S. Defence Department.

Dairy language 'nothing new'

Other language in the report was anticipated, if not altogether friendly to Canada.

The section on agricultural goods does not explicitly target Canada's supply management system for dairy, poultry and eggs, but the Trump administration is seeking to eliminate non-tariff barriers to U.S. agricultural exports, including "restrictive administration of tariff-rate quotas, other unjustified measures that unfairly limit access to markets to U.S. goods, such as cross subsidization, price discrimination and price undercutting."

In a statement issued swiftly following the release of Lighthizer's objectives, Dairy Farmers of Canada spokesperson Ashlee Smith said that the American objectives remain "fairly broad, and there isn't anything new."

The dairy farmers believe that the U.S. is only looking for new access to Canada's market because it has a problem with overproduction inside its own borders.

Dairy wasn't part of the first NAFTA agreement, Smith's statement pointed out, and the dairy group has told the Canadian government it sees "no valid new evidence to support that dairy be discussed in this round of discussions." Canada's trade balance on dairy products is in the Americans' favour.

The American dairy industry's lobbying has more recently focused on asking the Trump administration to challenge Canada's dairy policies, particularly its new pricing strategy for dairy ingredients, at the World Trade Organization.

The USTR's advisory council advised against pursuing the dismantling of supply management with Canada, fearing it could bog down the talks.

Call to raise duty-free limit

Online cross-border shoppers may be most excited to read the USTR's objective to improve customs facilitation, including raising the de minimis shipment value — the amount that can be shipped into Canada or Mexico duty-free — to $800 US.

Canada currently triggers duties for goods valued over $20, one of the lowest de minimis levels in the developed world.

On the first page of Lighthizer's summary, the USTR continues to say that the administration's goal is to "improve the U.S. trade balance and reduce the trade deficit with NAFTA countries."

Canada's trade with the U.S. is not significantly out of balance, but the Americans had a trade deficit with Mexico of over $60 billion in 2016, according to USTR figures.

Trade balances are not typically the focus of modern trade negotiations. Usually, parties to a negotiation focus instead on reciprocity: equivalent gains and sacrifices across all sides, with the hope of mutual wins overall.

At a "Made in America" event at the White House Monday, U.S. President Donald Trump borrowed a phrase from former president Theodore Roosevelt, saying trade reciprocity is "the handmaiden of protection," harkening back to a time in the previous century when preferential tariff treatment was used to promote political goals.

In a statement, Foreign Affairs Chrystia Freeland welcomed the opportunity to modernize NAFTA and invited all Canadians to share their ideas and priorities through the government's consultation process, which ends Tuesday.

Meanwhile, Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall told reporters at the premiers' annual summer meetings in Edmonton that Canada's trade negotiators should quietly prepare a list of ways to retaliate if the talks "go off the rail."

"I think it would be wise to have that ready sooner rather than later," he said. "I don't think we'll need it."

with files from Kathleen Harris