Wednesday 21 February 2018

The spin the CBC is putting on the NBEUB Hearing is offending me greatly and obviously their bosses know it as well..


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearing-1.4546118


'Behavioural science' will shape customer reaction to NB Power's smart meters

 

YEA RIGHT



David Amos
David Amos
Perhaps folks should do their own research from the Public Record of this hearing in lieu of merely relying on Mr Jones and his spin on the topic?

All documents that NB Power and their pals in the NBEUB are willing to share with its stakeholders (namely us) can be found and read from the Crown's website (Which is financed by us) For my personal benefit I ask that you scroll to the very bottom to at least notice that I was in on this wicked game out of the gate

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560

Then if you are truly curious download the transcript of the pre-hearing conference and read the spit and chew after you have checked out NB Power malicious submission against me with all their edited exhibits of my documents filed in the 357 Matter. Trust that it i a better story than any that Mr Jones has told you thus far.

www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/get_document.php?doc=31428&no=21322

www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/get_transcript.php?id=560&no=182

  
Samuel Porter
Samuel Porter
So which politician, or NB power employee has the relative that works for, or owns the company that builds the meters?


David Amos
David Amos 
@Samuel Porter Hard telling not knowing for sure but I do know their politically appointed minions barred me from the Hearing before it began and nobody spoke up in my defense. Then months later once the smart meter issue picked up steam the sneaky little "environmentalist" dude named Leblanc burst upon the scene and talked my friend into removing me as his witness. The obvious question I asked was if he was truly concerned about the issue then why didn't Leblanc intervene out of the gate just like I did in order to assist my friend with his concerns?


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 18:04:44 -0400
Subject: Wow do you see where they twisted my words :"Dead Bernie" instead
of Derek Burney and "He might be dead before me" I said no such thing
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Cc: Several friends who have my Power ofAttorney

I will lay odds that I can't get a tape of the hearing

www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/get_transcript.php?id=560&no=200

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Mr. Amos?

MR. AMOS: Before I sit down, can I file this document with Mr. Ervin?
Give him this document?

VICE-CHAIRMAN: And what's that document, Mr. Amos?

MR. AMOS: It's two slips of papers that have been on file in the 357
Matter. And then Ms. Harrison with NB Power put a bunch of my
documents in this Matter. So I have these three documents.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: So if you could give it to the Chief Clerk  and –

MR. AMOS: But I am directing it to a member of the Board here?

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Well the Chief Clerk –

MR. AMOS: You know who I am.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: -- the Chief Clerk, Mr. Amos, is the one who is
responsible for the documents.

MR. AMOS: You have it in your file already. You said in your
introduction that I didn't file any documents -- or  this evening. I
ask that the clerk bring it up.
All that said, I hope I have 15 minutes without interruption this time.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: The floor is yours, Mr. Amos. So if you --  you will
get more than 15 minutes because I allowed six 6 minutes more to Mr.
Galbraith. So –

MR. AMOS: I am grateful for that.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: -- the floor is all yours, Mr. Amos.

MR. AMOS: Yes. As you know, the last time you encountered me was
October the 31st, correct?

Anyway, when I landed on the 31st of October, I was very surprised to
see my friend Roger Richard here. He is a very busy man and a very
quiet man. And I told him it was just a pre-hearing conference where
people looked at their calendars and decided dates. That as a busy
dentist he didn't have to come, get a hotel, that let them work it
out. I said Gerry and I will come and let you know anything you need
to know.

Now I had attended a pre-conference hearing in the 357 Matter and it
went through fairly smooth so I saw no problem with the 375 Matter.
That said, I was very grateful to be involved in the 357 Matter. I
didn't think that I would be allowed to, because I had just made a
call to try to speak to Dave Young who I knew, the day before 1 the
hearing in June of 2017. And the Clerk said would you like to
intervene? I said, can I? And she said the hearings haven't begun yet,
it is up to the Board. And I said, sure. And I really didn't think
that you would allow me to intervene because we have crossed paths
before so many times. But apparently you forgot me and allowed me to
intervene and I introduced myself, was grateful.

I was there because Mr. Hyslop and I had a beef. The  voicemail from
Mr. Hyslop and I from 2006 is in the Matter of 357. I stated my
position about Mr. Hyslop wanting to  be paid. And you agreed with me.
And he didn't get paid.  And within the hour of him withdrawing from
the 357  Matter, NB Power files a submission, not even a motion day,
and wants the entire hearing dismissed sine die, I  think his words
were. And it wasn't his action. He was  ordered to bring that action.
It was a Board action  pursuant to the Act. It wasn't a rate increase.
It was  he to report to the Board.

Now I had attended a pre-conference hearing in the 357 Matter and it
went through fairly smooth so I saw no problem with the 375 Matter.
That said, I was very grateful to be involved in the 357 Matter. I
didn't think that I would be allowed to, because I had just made a
call to try to speak to Dave Young who I knew, the day before the
hearing in June of 2017. And the Clerk said would you like to
intervene? I said, can I? And she said the hearings haven't begun yet,
it is up to the Board. And I said, sure. And I really didn't think
that you would allow me to intervene because we have crossed paths
before so many times. But apparently you forgot me and allowed me to
intervene and I introduced myself, was grateful.

I was there because Mr. Hyslop and I had a beef. The  voicemail from
Mr. Hyslop and I from 2006 is in the Matter of 357. I stated my
position about Mr. Hyslop wanting to be paid. And you agreed with me.
And he didn't get paid.  And within the hour of him withdrawing from
the 357  Matter, NB Power files a submission, not even a motion day,
and wants the entire hearing dismissed sine die, I  think his words
were. And it wasn't his action. He was ordered to bring that action.
It was a Board action  pursuant to the Act. It wasn't a rate increase.
It was he to report to the Board. And all of a sudden Mr. Russell is
too busy.

Mr. Stoll who has Hugh Segal attached to his law firm who is quite
indignant. I think he saw his gravy train stopping. He flies in. Other
people oppose, as do I. That said, we all go down and the Board
excuses itself but leaves its lawyers in the room. I found that
interesting. And they all work it out and decide that they are not
going to dismiss it forever just -- as the words of CBC -- punt it
down the road. I found that interesting. But I still wanted to cross
examine Mr. Russell. I believe that's his name. Nice guy.

After I had encountered the Board with Mr. Hyslop's matter, I was
invited to a meeting in the Stewart McKelvey law firm boardroom by NB
Power to meet Mr. Todd from Ontario. I called Mr. Todd. I call
everybody. I talk to everybody. I am not a shy man. Mr. Todd knew who
I was. They had rules kind of like Chatham House rules. We could talk
freely, couldn't share what was said outside the room. I would not
sign any document put before me by Mr. Furey. Nobody gets my signature
or my oath unless I trust you. And I certainly don't trust Mr. Furey.
I encountered him when he was an assistant attorney general many years
ago. He was asking me questions about my investigations of dead
Indians.

Anyway,all that said, Mr. Russell, nice guy, Mr. Todd, a nice guy.
They are talking about things I can't talk about as per the rules. I
am a man of my word. But I  have some questions. And I can certainly
state my questions, not what they said, but I can say what I said.

The first question I had was -- years ago another crown corporation
known as Hydro Quebec wanted to buy NB Power. I used to be in
business. I am no fool. Why would I buy a company that is nothing but
debt? I said you have to raise these rates to meet a new Act put out
by David Alward and the boys for 20 percent equity.

Well I am here to tell you, Hydro Quebec is not stupid. They made
enough profit last year to buy NB Power in total. They are not going
to buy a company just to assume debt. You have assets. Of course you
have assets. You have got Lepreau, the dams, you have got your
computers. You most importantly got the transmission lines. And I said
I think they are worth more than 20 percent. And I was asking what's
the equity right now? Nobody knew. Nobody knew. And one guy speculated
4 percent. The other guy 6 or 8 percent. And they said, well there is,
you know, a financial statement coming out in short order. I said
good. I look forward to seeing it. They filed it in this Matter. Not
signed.

I was in business. I had an auditor. When he reported to the taxman --
and my old man used to be tax supervisor of this province. And after
he died my -- he left a very pretty widow, my momma, she married chief
electoral officer of this province. My brother-in-law's law firm
partner is Brian Mosher. He helped Peter MacKay merge with Mr.
Harper's party. And I ran against Mr. Harper's friends five times.
Most importantly against one of your board members, John Herron. Ask
him about me.

So anyway that said, I say, I think you are way over 5 percent equity.
It doesn't make sense. Hydro Quebec is not a stupid company. But Mr.
Russell had no answers. Mr. Todd kept interfering saying those are
questions to ask at a hearing. I said well may be according to you.
But I thought I was invited to speak my mind openly. And I had
problems with conflict of interest. For instance, Irving's lawyers of
Stewart McKelvey represent NB Power as they are suing Lloyd's of
London over losses at Lepreau, about things that happened at Lepreau,
right. Well if they have NB Power for a client there and the Irvings
for a client here, as the Irvings intervene in this Matter or hustle
for more money for pulp mills, I smell a conflict of interest.

And then we have Lenny Hoyt. He was the campaign manager for Andy
Scott when I ran against Andy Scott in Fredericton in 2005, '6. Well
Lenny knows me, as does Frank McKenna, as does Richard Bell. And
Lenny, he also picked the cabinet for Mr. Gallant. Ms. Black here is
from the same law firm, McInnes and Cooper as Frank  McKenna and
Richard Bell was. And I believe she was Public Intervenor with --
underneath the conservatives. And usually they change them. Like
usually the Public Interveners come and go with the color of the coat
that takes the office. But she kept the job. And I think that had to
do with McInnes and Cooper. And then I see a conflict of interest
there because Lenny Hoyt also gets a job with Enbridge who would love
to see the rates go up because it makes them look better. But I am not
a ratepayer these days because I have been homeless since 2005 and you
all know why. I served the documents upon you in 2006 when Derek
Burney was the chair. And you were suing Venezuela in New York because
it's against the law to sue another country in Canada. You as lawyers
should know that. So you hired Simpson Bartlett and Thatcher to sue
Mr.Chavez's company. Th lawsuit was in New York. And Simpson, Bartlett
and Thatcher, I am very familiar with. One of their partners is a
black man named Harper. He sits on the Board of Harvard. And my wife's
cousin sat on the Board of Governors of Harvard Law School when even
Barack Obama graduated. I sued him too.

More importantly, Simpson Bartlett and Thatcher are like Valerie --
Valerie Capone, Robert Mueller's lawyer. Simpson Bartlett and
Thatcher. I consider them like the Valerie Capone, Robert Mueller's
lawyer. Simpson Bartlett and Thatcher. I consider them like the icing
in a very bad Oreo cookie. Both the Democrats and the Republicans
use that law firm. You can't fool me when it comes to lawyers.


And Mr. Ervin, Patrick Ervin in case you don't know, I was accepted in
the Royal Military College in 1970 without having to finish my finals.
I am a very good bike mechanic. But I got 99 on my math and physics
matrix only because they wouldn't give 100.

I am named after my father's captain from World War 2. He won the
Victoria Cross. He was killed on my mom's birthday, June 24th. His
name was David Hornell. Raymond my mother's favourite brother was
killed --

VICE-CHAIRMAN: So, Mr. Amos, I hate interrupting --

MR. AMOS: You are interrupting me, sir.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: No, I am -- 1

MR. AMOS: I am talking to your associate.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Yes. 1

MR. AMOS: He is a former soldier, 19 years.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Sir --

MR. AMOS: You have got to understand the meaning of the  word integrity.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: I want to --

MR. AMOS: You promised not to interrupt me --
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. --

MR. AMOS: -- sir.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: -- Amos, I won't argue with you here tonight, but what
is the relevance --

MR. AMOS: Well then are you shutting me down, sir?

VICE-CHAIRMAN: No, I am not shutting you down. What I am saying is --

MR. AMOS: Do you want me to sue you, sir? Then turn off your mic.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: What I am saying, sir, is we are here regarding the
application -- 1

MR. AMOS: I am talking about the filings that your associates put in
this Matter on their own. Ms. Harrison signed a submission calling me
vexatious. This Board sided calling me vexatious.
You said I could stay and assist my friends and speak tonight for 15
minutes, plus 6.

Mr. Gorman, Queen's Counsel was done his tour of duty February 1st. I
don't know who the new chair is. But they had a head hunter in Toronto
and I called the young fellow and applied for the job. And he said oh
it is not for chair. I said you better check your ad. And he said oh
that's a mistake. I said so you are not head hunting for a chair of
the Board? He said no. And I said well if I can't be the boss, I don't
want the job.

I bet you will be the new chair. You and Mr. Nugent know me. That
said, Mr. Costello and Mr. Ervin both worked for Bell Aliant. In 2004
-- you have an MBA as well and I do have respect for soldiers, sir. I
am named after decent soldiers who fought for democracy and rule of
law. You are a lawyer, an MBA. I am a whistle blower against KPMG, the
auditors of NB Power.

Everything about this hearing has to do with rate increases based on
the auditing of a company I blew the whistle on in 2002. I caused
hearings at the Senate Banking Committee. If you look at the
documents, you will see the -- Anne McLellan, Deputy Prime Minister of
Canada and the Inspector General of the Department of Homeland
Security, two of the documents NB Power left out when they filed it in
this Matter had concerns about my safety then. Do you have any idea
how many people have tried to kill me? This union talks about courage.
I am full of it. And I think you can see it in my eyes. A former
soldier knows when a man is not joking.

But I am begging you, sir, because you are new to me, you might not
have read any of the submissions yet that NB Power put in 375. Or the
true submissions in 357. And on October the 31st, I land here and I
see my friend Roger sitting here. I go what are you doing here? He
said I am

-- I thought you were mad at me? I said why? He said well you weren't
answering my emails. I said I haven't been on the internet. He said
well -- I said what are you doing here? He said you don't know? I said
I don't know nothing. I haven't been on the -- what are you talking
about? He says they are going to boot you out of here. I said what
for?

And Roger had written a big document. He had come hundreds of miles to
defend his friend. I was honoured. He is a very shy man. He had a head
of steam on. And what are you talking about? And he -- and I get the
password for this hotel. I have a look at the submission.  Manna from
heaven. I sue lawyers. I have sued more lawyers, and law firms and
attorney generals than most folks can name. You want to pick a fight
with me? Skitter, scatter let's get at er, right. But I should have
time to file the -- look at the documents.

The first thing I notice Mr. Furey didn't sign it. Their
Vice-President did. Well that's interesting, right. And then I see
they are incomplete. I see where he filed an affidavit of mine that
disappeared from public record. I was glad to see that one filed. Said
so,right. But out of the gate, pre-trial conference hearing, first
time look at the documents.

This Furey character pulled the same trick that he pulled me on my
friend today. A bunch of documents last minute and expects to argue.
To this Board's credit, they didn't allow him to get away with it this time.
They certainly did with me, as you recall.

Anyway that said, I tried to say as much as I could in rebuttal, kept
getting interrupted by Mr. Gorman. But I am speaking to the transcript
because this is not a court. You act like a court. You are not a
court. You can come out of whatever recommendations you wish and it's
up to Mr. Doucet and Mr. Gallant to decide whether it's  politically
important to allow NB Power to have their rate increase.
This predecessor to this EUB board, the PUB used to have public
hearings. I wanted to speak on one after I ran for parliament. I ran
against Mr. Herron, Dave Young was on CBC. He wouldn't let me speak on
the airwaves, against the CBC's mandate. You are supposed to be
nonpartisan. Well I complained of Mr. Young to CBC.
The next time I encounter him, I am calling the PUB to speak at a
public hearing, just like I am now. I was intervening in the Emera
Pipeline project. I ran in to Nova Scotia's Power's lawyers, Emera's
lawyers, the Irving's lawyers, NB Power's lawyers,in 2006 while I was
running in Saint John Harbour. Mr. Hyslop was running in Saint John
too.

Anyway, Bernie Lord -- the PUB had hearings with the Conservation
Council and everything else. This went on and on. And the PUB to its
credit decided it wasn't wise to refurbish Lepreau. Yay. I am a tree
hugger who loves his guns. You figure out my politics. But I am
definitely anti-nuc. And the PUB decides no, we shouldn't refurbish
Lepreau. That's nuts. Good for them. Bernie Lord, I think it was in
2005, stroke of the pen going to refurbish Lepreau. So much for the
power of the PUB or the EUB.

Anyway, I have got opinions about that, because I am going why don't
we just buy our power from Quebec, it's cheaper than producing it, or
buying it from Irving, or Emera or anyone else. I have some things to
say. PUB won't let me speak. Oh, we are too busy. We have got a big
roster, not enough room for you, Mr. Amos. I pick up the phone and
call a farmer friend of mine. I said call this Dave Young character
and see if you can speak. Yeah, he got right on. I said well ask this
question, and this question and this question. They thought he was the
21 smartest farmer they ever met.

Now since you guys have barred me but admitted I could assist my
friends, Mr. Bourque and Mr. Richard, I had Mr.

Richard ask two questions. One was do you have a mandate to buy smart
meters? Because it was my understanding that's what 357 was about. NB
Power to its credit answered him. Said no. He tried to file a motion
about it. The motion filing was misunderstood. You asked him in
person. And he told you. And then you said well you didn't serve it on
the other interveners. Roger is not a lawyer and he did the best he
could. And you as a lawyer shouldn't ask a question if you don't
already know the answer. And he answered you. They don't have a
mandate. So why are we putting the cart before the horse, is what I am
asking? $122 million is not chump change. 1

And then I had Gerry back up Roger today by asking another simple
question. You can go all over YouTube and see people complaining that
they get sick in the vicinity of smart meters and stuff like that. And
well that's like a back pain to me. Legally speaking could be, could
be not. I don't know enough about it. He has an expert that does. But
what's not rocket science to me is when somebody's house burns down
and the smart meter is the source.

I heard the lady from NB Power today brag how smart meters would tell
you that your power is out and you wouldn't have to call NB Power.
Well she should have read the news

in Maine yesterday where they have smart meters. And the Board down
there that oversees the public utility down there were cursing that
smart meters didn't say that Mainers were out of power on October
30th. Read the news. I put it in CBC's News today while I was watching
you guys talk. I am hearing her brag one thing and I know different.
It's in the news.

So anyway, I had Gerry ask the question, well if my house burns down
who do I sue NB Power or Justin Trudeau? And I will tell you this, New
Brunswick doesn't have a constitution. Everything is federal in New
Brunswick. Even when you change language laws in New Brunswick you
have to change the federal constitution. The Province of New Brunswick
does not have a constitution. I have argued that in Federal Court. All
that said, Roger --

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, I will intervene now. It's 7:06, so you had
your 21 minutes.

MR. AMOS: All right. I will see you in another court.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: So I would ask you --

MR. AMOS: That's fine. I am suing you. It's him I am concerned about.
He might be dead before me.

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Amos. 22 So our
next presenter is Margot Cragg from the Union of 23 Municipalities of
New Brunswick? Ms. Cragg?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 20:15:30 +0000
Subject: RE: Public Session - NB Power General Rate Application - Matter 375
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Good afternoon Mr. Amos,

We have just received the public session transcript.  You will find it
attached to this email.

It is also available on our website.

Regards,

Kathleen Mitchell
Chief Clerk | Greffière en chef

Energy & Utilities Board | Commission de l’énergie et des services
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---------- Original message ----------
From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 19:38:22 +0000
Subject: RE: RE Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to read
N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Alice Napoleon <anapoleon@synapse-energy.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:30:17 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to read
N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thanks for your message. I will be away from the office from Tuesday,
February 20 to Tuesday, February 27. I will be back in the office on
Wednesday, February 28.

Alice Napoleon


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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:30:20 +0000
Subject: RE: RE Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
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N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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2 U.S. experts doubt NB Power's business case for smart meters

Energy and Utilities Board advised to withhold approving plan until more details known

By Robert Jones, CBC News Posted: Feb 26, 2018 6:28 PM AT

Edmund Finamore, an energy expert from Pennsylvania, says the Energy and Utilities Board must hold back on full approval of NB Power's smart meters plan until more details of the benefits are explained.
Edmund Finamore, an energy expert from Pennsylvania, says the Energy and Utilities Board must hold back on full approval of NB Power's smart meters plan until more details of the benefits are explained. (Robert Jones/CBC) 

NB Power's slow-moving rate hearing in front of the Energy and Utilities Board reconvened temporarily in Fredericton on Monday with more criticism of the utility's plan to buy and install smart meters throughout the province.

Edmund Finamore, an energy expert from Pennsylvania who has been critical of the business case developed by NB Power to deploy the meters, called for the EUB to withhold full approval of the initiative until the utility provides more detailed information about the benefits it will generate.

Finamore was hired to review the $122.7-million smart meter plan by public intervener Heather Black and was the second expert in a row to find fault with it.

Massachusetts expert Tim Woolf delivered blistering criticisms of the plan late last week.


Woolf was hired to review the plan by the EUB itself and on Thursday and Friday said he found NB Power's accounting of the costs and benefits of installing smart meters in New Brunswick superficial and unconvincing.

"The evidence doesn't meet a standard that I would apply to such an important investment in terms of the depth and the extent of it," Woolf said under questioning by Scott Stoll, a lawyer representing New Brunswick's municipal utilities.

"And if one were to draw conclusions from this evidence, my conclusion would be that the costs could very easily exceed the benefits, most likely exceed the benefits."

Expense justification needed


Woolf, who is-vice president of Synapse Energy Economics Inc. in Cambridge, Mass., recommended the EUB reject NB Power's smart meter proposal outright until the utility produces more convincing evidence to justify the expense.

He also said the utility should explain why other lower-cost options to achieve the same energy-saving objectives have been passed over.

Tim Woolf
Tim Woolf, also a U.S. energy expert, testified before the Energy and Utilities Board last week and savaged N.B. Power’s plan to acquire and install 350,000 smart meters. (Robert Jones/CBC)

"I know of states, other jurisdictions that run energy efficiency programs that save two, three, four, five times the amount of energy that this company is saving with no (smart meters). None. So if energy saving is the goal here, there are much better ways to spend the money than on a $120 million commitment to a very uncertain and a risky investment."

Woolf suggested some of the savings NB Power has been claiming smart meters will generate, like replacing current meters with years of usable service still left on them, with new meters is actually a cost.

And he claimed other listed savings are overblown — even fake — since they could be achieved whether smart meters are installed or not.

Phantom cost

For example, NB Power has been mailing home energy reports to large numbers of residential customers separately from their monthly bills and suggested that could stop, with considerable postage savings, if every household had a smart meter.
Woolf said mid-month mail-outs can stop anytime, smart meters or not.
"It's more expensive than necessary to send paper bills out in the middle of the month, and then you come along and say, 'Oh well, with (smart meters) we can reduce that cost.' But that cost wasn't necessary in the first place. You are creating a phantom cost and then you are taking it out."
EUB HEARING
The EUB hearing has been granted an extension set to begin March 19 in Saint John. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

Woolf held out the possibility smart meters could be a good investment for NB Power, especially if it introduces aggressive time-of-day rates but said the utility has not made a convincing case for that in its current hearing and recommended it try again with more in depth analysis next year.

"The main point is that if they want to get approval for this capital project that exceeds the $50 million threshold, they have no choice but to provide a robust analysis of the cost and the benefits and a robust justification," Woolf said.

Rate hearings extended 


The rate hearing, which has taken so long looking at NB Power's smart meter and energy efficiency plans, it has fallen weeks behind schedule.

It will hear final arguments from all parties on those two specific issues Tuesday before moving on to the main matter, the utility's request for a two per cent rate hike.

That part of the hearing has been moved to March 19 back in Saint John and could last into April.




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Subject: RE Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
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'It will take the time that it takes': NB Power rate hearing way behind schedule

Deep dives into smart meters, efficiency programs prolong what was a 12-day proceeding

By Robert Jones, CBC News Posted: Feb 21, 2018 6:00 AM AT

NB Power's annual rate hearing is taking longer than the expected 12 days.
NB Power's annual rate hearing is taking longer than the expected 12 days. (CBC)

NB Power's 12-day rate hearing in front of the Energy and Utilities Board was scheduled to wrap up later this week, but it has fallen so far behind schedule it may be forced carry on until springtime, or beyond.

"The board would like to have the parties provide their availability and their limitations for the month of March and April," said EUB vice-chairman Francois Beaulieu as the hearing entered day nine Tuesday morning with no hope at all of finishing Friday as originally planned.

"We're looking for eight (more) days," he said.


The hearing's primary purpose is to consider NB Power's annual request for a two per cent rate increase but has not yet touched on that topic. Instead, it's slogging through a lengthy consideration of the utility's plan to buy and install 350,000 smart meters and its handling of energy efficiency programs.

Francois Beaulieu
EUB vice-Chairman Francois Beaulieu, centre, is allowing everyone to have their say at NB Power's slow moving rate hearing. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

Those two matters were supposed to have been put to rest by the end of last week but continue to be probed in detail by multiple parties registered to participate at the hearings.

'It will take the time that it takes'


The EUB has long tolerated — even encouraged — non-expert participation in its hearings by individual concerned citizens, and although that can slow proceedings considerably, Beaulieu has made it clear everyone who registered to participate will be heard in full.

"It will take the time that it takes," said Beaulieu on day three of the hearing when NB Power lawyer John Furey first raised concerns matters were falling behind schedule.

Several self-represented participants have been taking turns questioning NB Power's plans on an equal footing with lawyers hired by companies, like J.D. Irving Ltd. and Enbridge Gas New Brunswick, and municipal utilities like Saint John Energy.

Gently guided on proper procedure by Beaulieu, non-professional participants have had free rein to have a say.

EUB Hearing
Anti-smart meter activist and St. Louis de Kent dentist Roger Richard, left, and environmentalist Daniel LeBlanc spent hours questioning NB Power witnesses. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

Those participants include environmentalist Chris Rouse, anti-smart meter activist and St. Louis de Kent dentist Roger Richard and political hopeful Gerald Bourque, the leader of the fledgling KISS N.B. Political Party.

They've been able to submit evidence, call witnesses and cross-examine NB Power executives and others and make motions.


NB Power deadline in jeopardy


On day five, Beaulieu told environmentalist Daniel LeBlanc, who is working with Richard, to take as long as he needed to get full answers to questions from NB Power witnesses.

"If you feel that your questions are not answered — you have the floor, so it's your right to ask your question again if you feel the panel members are not responding to your questions," he said.

"Thank you," said LeBlanc, who went on to ask questions for three and a half hours.

Chris Rouse
Chris Rouse uses vacation days from his regular job to participate in NB Power rate hearings. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

On Friday, Rouse, who uses vacation days from his regular job to attend NB Power hearings, unsuccessfully attempted to have himself declared an expert witness at the hearing so he could give his own opinion on evidence he had previously filed.

Beaulieu gave the issue a full hour before denying the request, even with the hearing days behind schedule.

Rouse was appreciative of his treatment.

"I am happy with everything. Thank you very much," he said to Beaulieu at the end of the afternoon session

The current hearing is nowhere near the 58-day marathon held to establish NB Power's rates back in 2006, but its slow pace is creating problems.

NB Power had been hoping to win approval for a rate increase before the start of its fiscal year on April 1, but with the hearing dragging, it may have to apply for an interim increase to meet that deadline, especially if eight more sitting days cannot be arranged quickly.

The EUB is expected to announce further hearing dates Wednesday morning.

   
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David Amos
David Amos
When it comes to Smart Meters spying on us I often quote a long gone not so wise guy to my friends and they think I am joking but the lawyers and politicians know I am not

The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail — its roof may shake — the wind may blow through it — the storm may enter — the rain may enter — but the King of England cannot enter — all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! So said Prime Minister William Pitt "The Elder"

David Amos 
David Amos
Methinks folks who are truly concerned need to go to the NBEUB website and read the transcripts of the 357 and 375 Matters for themselves N'esy Pas?

  
David Amos
David Amos
Here is a links to all the documents with regards to this hearing perhaps folks should educate themselves the vote accordingly. Please note that even the Green Party supports this Smart Meter Nonsense

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560

David Amos
David Amos
This is the hearing that no seated politician wants to talk about until after the next election

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=558

EUB punts rate hearing as NB Power studies $122M smart meter plan
EUB agrees to suspend hearing so it can deal first with NB Power's proposed $122M purchase of smart meters
By Robert Jones, Posted: Sep 26, 2017 6:00 AM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearing-nb-power-rate-design-smart-meters-1.4305685


David Amos
David Amos
Why do I comment so much on this topic?

Its because I am angry about illegally barred from the Hearing as an Intervenor because the NBEUB and the politicians know I am a whistle blower against KPMG. That company audits NB Power. It truly is just that simple.

Doubt me? Well just Google such things as:

David Amos Smart Meters

or David Amos KPMG

or David Amos Bank Fraud


Stephanie Haslam  
Stephanie Haslam
This is one of the most well informed opinions that I have read on the subject: https://www.facebook.com/thecabinsupplydepot/posts/1531368710265006


David Amos
David Amos
@Stephanie Haslam Here is a lot more information on the topic

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2018/02/the-testimony-of-dr-paul-heroux.html

  
Stephanie Haslam
Stephanie Haslam
The smart meter plan has been in place for quite a while: 


David Amos
David Amos
@Stephanie Haslam YUP

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-surveys-customers-on-energy-use-1.1348301

NB Power surveys customers on energy use
Utility hopes to launch a smart grid pilot project within a year
CBC News Posted: Jun 03, 2013 8:01 AM AT


Stephanie Haslam 
Stephanie Haslam
The gentleman, mentioned in an earlier CBC article, who was defending smart meters against health and safety risks, is no less than the president of an Ontario company called Util-Assist. It looks like they have written a four or five part report for the NBEUB. The president's resume, submitted to the EUB, shows that he was instrumental in the roll-out of smart meters in other provinces. As a consumer having looked at the stories coming out of these other provinces, this does not inspire a great deal of confidence. The over billing, fires, explosions, and recalls (Itron meters in B.C., which I see may be what we are supposed to get) are underwhelming, to say the least. I was told by people in a group called Hydro One- Enough is Enough that New Brunswick consumers need to fight smart meters tooth and nail.


David Amos
David Amos
@Stephanie Haslam I have been doing my part Methinks that is why NBEUB barred me as an Intervenor from the Hearing N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Stephanie Haslam Apparently NB Power's experts are allowed to have partisan interests in the outcome while the other experts are not.

However if PANB was so concerned about smart meters why did they not send someone to Intervene in the matters last year?

Stephanie Haslam
 Brad Little
I think that it's quite clear by now that the only people in NB who want smart meters is NBPower executives. I think they're just getting tired of having ask to get rate increases approved, and smart meters will allow them more "flexibility" at billing time each month. I think if a person looked at their bonus structure, you'd likely see why they want smart meters so badly.


David Amos
David Amos
@Brad Little Perhaps you should read the filings for the Public Session heard on Feb 7th. In a nutshell even the Unions, the Green Party and UNB etc want Smart Meters.


Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@David Amos
Which Unions?


David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt The Electrical Workers Union boss spoke before me on Feb 7th Once I was done I walked out in disgust


David Amos
David Amos 
@Rosco holt Trust that Ross Galbraith knows that in 2015 I sued the Queen while running in the election of the 42nd Parliament and that I appealed a decision I kinda sorta won because the Judge who decided in my favour had a conflict of interest with me.

When I watched Galbraith work the crowd of lawyers before the Public Session then make a fancy presentation in support of Smart Meters I was not surprised at all. However I could not wait to get out of the room with such peple after I spoke my mind to the snobs. Small would that the transcript of the Public Session is no available yet. Trust that the NBEUB and many politicians do not want folks to read it before the election this year.

  
Rosco holt
Rosco holt
Will big industrial users get these smart meters?

The reasoning behind smart meters is flawed if only residential users are targeted.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Rosco holt Methinks CBC answered your question years ago N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-first-full-rate-hearing-gets-questions-about-big-paper-mills-1.3114844

NB Power first full rate hearing gets questions about big paper mills
The utility has applied for a two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1
By Robert Jones, CBC News Posted: Jun 15, 2015 9:43 PM AT

Multi million dollar subsidies NB Power is forced to provide the province's big paper mills took centre stage at the utility's rate hearing Monday with a retired NB Power engineer criticizing the practice as thinly veiled corporate welfare.

"I'd like to understand the program and I would like all the documentation that's available on the program that will explain it to people," said Gregory Hickey as he questioned a panel of NB Power executives about the practice of buying renewable energy from paper mills and reselling it back to them at a substantial loss."

"He was especially curious about NB Power's Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program which was unveiled by the Alward government in 2011.

It requires NB Power to buy renewable electricity generated by paper mills at a high price - mostly hydro and biomass - and then sell it back to the companies at a low price to help bring their power costs down.

NB Power says in the first 27 months of the program it bought 858.9 thousand megawatt hours (mwh) of electricity from the mills for $81.6 million and then sold it back to the mills at $57.2 million.

NB Power lost $24.2 million on those transactions and Hickey told the hearing if the utility is rich enough to subsidize industry, it should be denied a rate increase."

Sharon Buchanan 
Sharon Buchanan
In the 16 years that I have lived in the home I am in - my power bill has more than doubled. This is despite a new roof, some new windows, and children growing up and moving out, therefore less laundry and other power uses.

Also during this time, my power has become increasingly unstable, and I don't mean storms - although we now drop power with every storm where 10 years ago we didn't lose power no matter what ... I mean that my power "blips" multiple times per week, flashing off just long enough to reset every device in the house.

Now - the power company wants me to accept a "smart meter". Something that is going to cost more than it saves by their own admission, that has been implemented and found to be a failure in other areas, that raises health concerns, that essentially "spies" on your home activity and reports back to government ...

And the end game? To allow them to sell more power into Maine and other areas, to allow them to charge more for those generating power and putting it back into the grid, and to allow them bring independent power generators online ...

I say NO. The risks and the costs are too great, and the benefits unproven. Provide me the service I currently pay for before you insist on forcing upon me more costs for services I don't even want.

Charge business for the power they use, instead of discounting them and pushing the costs onto residents. Learn to manage your finances instead of looking to citizens to continue bailing you out.

And recognize that the lifestyle my family leads, and whether we use more power in the daytime, or in the evening (we all work night shifts) is really none of your business. I pay my bill, therefore paying for what I use ... the time of day I use it is my business, not yours.


David Amos
David Amos
@Sharon Buchanan "Learn to manage your finances instead of looking to citizens to continue bailing you out"

Have you considered running for public office?

 
Sharon Buchanan
Sharon Buchanan
@David Amos I'd be assassinated within a week. I don't care about game playing and favor gaining ... I care about common sense, practical, and realistic actions.


Stephanie Haslam 
Roland Godin
And meanwhile we insist proudly to hire the politicians of whatever colour that will most likely mismanage public policies, administration, resources and finances...et voilà.


David Amos
David Amos
@Roland Godin We don't hire them We elect them by default because so many of us do not bother to vote. N'esy Pas?


Stephanie Haslam 
Stephanie Haslam
The NBEUB is appointed by government, and the public intervenor is appointed by government. They are overseeing a crown corporation. Does anyone else think that this might not be such a good deal for the consumer? As to the smart meters, they have been widely panned by consumers in Ontario, British Columbia, Saskatchewan, and Quebec, as well as in the U.K.. The best article that I have read, thus far, states that: "We interviewed 35 experts, including smart-grid- and utility-industry executives, government regulators and consumer advocates. We also reviewed thousands of pages of government documents, filings with state utility commissions, materials from smart-meter-makers, and reports that were produced by the emerging smart-grid industry. A few experts suggest that smart-meter conversion represents little more than a boondoggle that is being foisted on consumers by the politically influential companies that make the hardware and software that are required for the smart-meter conversion. And based on our investigation, it’s difficult to disagree. From a consumer’s perspective, the potential negative consequences outweigh the benefits..." http://www.consumersdigest.com/special-reports/why-smart-meters-might-be-a-dumb-idea


David Amos
David Amos
@Stephanie Haslam Perhaps you should go to the NBEUB website and check my work?


Stephanie Haslam 
Roy Kirk
A thorough examination of the issues takes time. The applicant knows (or should know) this. If they wanted an earlier decision, they should have filed their case earlier, or better yet, done so more regularly in the past so as to given an opportunity to have the issues canvassed in prior hearings.

Practice make perfect.


David Amos
David Amos
@Roy Kirk I kinda sorta agree


Stephanie Haslam 
Paul Bourgoin
'It will take the time that it takes': NB Power rate hearing are saying.
The board must know who to benefit or risk being substituted as a Board Member!! RISKY! RISKY!


David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Right now I a very curious who will be appointed as the the new Chair of the board


Stephanie Haslam  
Rosco holt
EUB hearings are a farce has long has residential customers are not represented adequately.
The public intervener represents businesses interests than residential.


David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt Out of the gate there were three fellas speaking on behalf of residential customers and now there are two speaking for you. Go Figure who got rubbed off the roster.


Marilynn Doherty 
Marilynn Doherty
NBers should be up in arms! NB Power will be forcing a monthly charge (up to $38/month) on hydro customers for their smart meter even if you opt OUT (!) and $20/month if you opt in. Does this make sense? We are being forced to pay regardless so there is no “option”. How can they get away with this? I don’t want one and I won’t pay for “not wanting” one.
NB Power says it will cost them $127 million to install 350,000 smart meters across the province and create a savings of $20 million A YEAR for them. Great, use these savings to pay for them! It’s your idea, not ours. You want them, we don’t. How can they get away with ‘unilaterally’ imposing this additional financial burden on hydro customers? We are being gouged enough as it is and see another hydro rate hike hitting us shortly. Who is going to stand up for the customers/taxpayers and say “enough is enough”?


David Amos
David Amos
@Marilynn Doherty "Who is going to stand up for the customers/taxpayers and say “enough is enough”?"

I did but nobody cared whenever I got barred from the hearings and the legislative properties for doing so.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearing-1.4546118



'Behavioural science' will shape customer reaction to NB Power's smart meters

Smart meters plan needs buy-in from NB Power customers, according to the utility

By Robert Jones, CBC News Posted: Feb 22, 2018 6:00 AM AT

NB Power will employ behavioural science to help shape customer behaviour around its smart meter plan.
NB Power will employ behavioural science to help shape customer behaviour around its smart meter plan. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

NB Power's plans to shape public opinion and mold customer behaviour around its smart meter plan, including the use of "behavioural science" to shift consumption patterns once the meters are installed, came under scrutiny at the utility's ongoing rate hearing Wednesday.

Despite some opposition at the hearing itself, NB Power representatives claim they are not expecting much public resistance to the installation of smart meters in the province but are still preparing an extensive public relations campaign in support of the devices.


"NB Power is a trusted provider of customers in the province. Meters get exchanged all the time so we're not anticipating a reaction that is any different when an NB Power employee comes in now to change out a meter," said Jacqueline Lemmerhirt, an NB Power consultant from Maine hired to help plan for smart meters.

Nevertheless, public acceptance of smart meters is critical to the utility achieving its goal of near universal adoption of the devices, so it is planning a variety of campaigns in support of the meters to meet whatever suspicion or hostility might be encountered.

Jacqueline Lemmerhirt
Jacqueline Lemmerhirt is a consultant from Maine helping NB Power develop its smart meter plan. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

"There will be education on health if we get questions on that. There will be education on safety if we get questions on that so all aspects of the program will be prepared to educate and respond to the customers concerns," said Lemmerhirt.

"If there's any need to slow down, to do further education, we'll definitely take that time.
"NB Power wants to do this right and wants to have it be successful and accepted by the customers."

 

Behavioural science


But efforts by NB Power to shape the behaviour of customers go beyond winning support for the meters themselves.

James Douglas, an Ontario consultant also working on the smart meter project, was questioned by J.D. Irving lawyer Christopher Stewart about the use of "behavioural psychology" to get customers to act on the extensive data smart meters will provide to reduce their consumption.

"There is major investments in our industry around behavioural science on how we actually frame the information for customers so they get value from it," said Douglas.

James Douglas
James Douglas, an Ontario-based consultant working for NB Power, said "behavioural science" is widely used in the utility industry to help shape customer behaviour. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

"NB Power — the vendors they work with — engage with behavioural scientists to make sure that how the program is designed and how they're communicating with the public is done in a way that is meaningful, is done in a way they can understand."

"I take it no one at NB Power has any particular expertise in behavioural psychology," asked Stewart, who was told the utility's customer service department in fact does "quite a bit of research" to understand the issue.


Smart meter opponents, including environmentalist Daniel LeBlanc, expressed concern earlier in the hearing about the devices and suggested rural residents would be suspicious of them.

Publicly, the utility doubts that is true but acknowledged Wednesday it will be doing whatever it can to make sure opposition does not take root.

Lynn Arsenault
Lynn Arsenault, NB Power's vice-president of customer service, says the utility will be mounting an extensive public relations campaign in support of smart meters. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

"The success of the project depends on NB Power's customers accepting the technology is that correct?"  asked public intervenor Heather Black.

"We agree the project is dependent on on customers understanding the benefit that a (Smart) metre will bring," acknowledged Lynn Arsenault, NB Power's vice-president of customer service.

"If it's using the home shows, if it's using meetings, we'll leverage areas within the communities to best communicate and understand where the customers concerns are."


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David Amos
David Amos
Perhaps folks should do their own research from the Public Record of this hearing in lieu of merely relying on Mr Jones and his spin on the topic?

All documents that NB Power and their pals in the NBEUB are willing to share with its stakeholders (namely us) can be found and read from the Crown's website (Which is financed by us) For my personal benefit I ask that you scroll to the very bottom to at least notice that I was in on this wicked game out of the gate

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560

Then if you are truly curious download the transcript of the pre-hearing conference and read the spit and chew after you have checked out NB Power malicious submission against me with all their edited exhibits of my documents filed in the 357 Matter. Trust that it i a better story than any that Mr Jones has told you thus far.

www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/get_document.php?doc=31428&no=21322

www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/get_transcript.php?id=560&no=182


Shawn McShane
Sue Parr
so in other words NBPower believes that if they continue to lie to people over an extended period of time, people with start to believe the lies.. lol


David Amos
David Amos
@Sue Parr That is the way propaganda works


Shawn McShane
Jeffrey Parker
Well NB power changed my meter to a RF one that they can read from the road..Now this meter is on the side of my home right next to my lazy boy on the other side of the wall. I was unaware of this radiation danger.. Is that what they call an unsmart meter..


David Amos
David Amos
@Jeffrey Parker It depends on whether or not you are a wiseguy.


Shawn McShane
Jeffrey Parker
Do commercial customer's get these meters. Maybe get some off the largest user to shift there usage to low usage periods.
Take that 126 million and built other sources of renewable power,hydro power with out dams, Gasifers for waste wood that produce steam for generating power instead of shipping it to Maine to use. Create jobs here with what we have and stop being stupid!


David Amos
David Amos
@Jeffrey Parker What not just refurbish the Musquash Dam with the latest greatest turbines etc?


Samuel Porter
Samuel Porter
So which politician, or NB power employee has the relative that works for, or owns the company that builds the meters?


David Amos
David Amos 
@Samuel Porter Hard telling not knowing for sure but I do know their politically appointed minions barred me from the Hearing before it began and nobody spoke up in my defense. Then months later once the smart meter issue picked up steam the sneaky little "environmentalist" dude named Leblanc burst upon the scene and talked my friend into removing me as his witness. The obvious question I asked was if he was truly concerned about the issue then why didn't Leblanc intervene out of the gate just like I did in order to assist my friend with his concerns? 

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
http://www.moderngridpartners.com/about-us/our-team/ Senior Consultant Jacqueline Lemmerhirt METER-TO-CASH OPTIMIZATION...we align with your communications and marketing teams on internal and external messages and tactics...strategy identifies key messages, and which channels audiences use to get their information, providing feedback to the utility (social media, traditional media, community meetings, online chat, calls to customer support, regulatory hearings).


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
NB Power/government is hiring brainwashers: includes evaluation to make sure the messages are being heard, feedback is being acknowledged/considered, and behavior is changing.

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Trust that the Yankee Senior Consultant Jacqueline Lemmerhirt has no clue how I can use her favourite tools against her. In fact this comment section is a fine example

  
Shawn McShane
Dave Peters
"If it's using the home shows, if it's using meetings, we'll leverage areas within the communities to best communicate and understand where the customers concerns are."

Leverage sounds like a done deal, were going thru the motions, nodding our heads, agreeing with everybody's concerns then go ahead and do it anyway. How is this in the best interest of their customers. 122M$ is a pot of bonuses, perks & favors this province can not afford. Forget this BS or prepare for the scorn of NB'ers


David Amos
Content disabled
David Amos
@Dave Peters "we'll leverage areas within the communities to best communicate and understand where the customers concerns are."

Methinks the all knowing Yankee Lady should read the CBC website and its comment sections in particular N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos Why on earth would CBC click the "Content disabled" button on that comment? I was actually promoting CBC' work for a change. Methinks you Crown Corp dudes are truly strange N'esy Pas?


Shawn McShane 
Shawn McShane
This is a cash grab, no amount of "Behavioral brainwashing" will change that fact.
Ontario's smart meters failing to cut electricity demand: electricity users rallied in the cold outside the Ontario Legislature..."you're being hammered, you can't afford it anymore, " Warry-Poljanski said in an interview. The provincial Liberals, meanwhile, wonder if they can afford to have so many people angry about their hydro bills.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/smart-meters-hydro-bills-ontario-time-of-use-pricing-1.3862462


Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Shawn McShane
No behaviour will save customers money.
The purpose of these meters is to give NBP the means to apply a surcharge.

That is not progress.
As you say it's nothing but a cash grab. And don't expect the Liberals to help the public.

David Amos
David Amos
@Brian Robertson "Behavioral brainwashing" now that is a wicked term. Lets just say the the clever Yankees can't fool me because I am too stupid. They can piss on my boots and tell me its raining but my nose still tells me the true tale.

Paul Bourgoin
Don Smith
"NB Power is a trusted provider of customers in the province". Really, I don't trust them as far as I could throw them. We are going to pay dearly for smart meters, and we are going to pay dearly


David Amos
David Amos
@Don Smith I agree


Paul Bourgoin
Chuck Michaels
"... But efforts by NB Power to shape the behaviour of customers go beyond winning support for the meters themselves. "

They trespassed and removed a functional existing meter from the side of my home - without permission or prior notice of a power interruption. NOTHING.

Of *course* I will gladly support their intrusive STASI-esque device. Nope. Any way I can find to circumvent this thing without actually violating the law - I will. I will also join any class-action or other effort to have these things done away with.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Chuck Michaels At the risk of being redundant

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-hearing-eub-1.4544322

When it comes to Smart Meters spying on us I often quote a long gone not so wise guy to my friends and they think I am joking but the lawyers and politicians know I am not

The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail — its roof may shake — the wind may blow through it — the storm may enter — the rain may enter — but the King of England cannot enter — all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! So said Prime Minister William Pitt "The Elder"


Ross Piercey
Ross Piercey
So, if there are 350000 NB power users, with and averaged bill of $200 per month that $70,000,000 per month for how many years. The infrastructure to generate that power was built years ago and paid for it’s self by now, but, now it’s like everything is broken down and they have no money to fix them, it’s not like it cost them money to make the water to turn the turbines, so, where has the money gone, the province is broke and now they want the taxpayers to accept these cash grabbing meters.

I want to here from the politician party leaders where they stand on these meters.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ross Piercey Check the KPMG audit of NB Power If my memory serves me correctly it had about 1.7 billion in sales last year yet they can't make ends meet with that..

David Amos 
David Amos
@Ross Piercey At least four of NB Power's board memebers are Yankees along with their highest paid employee. Methinks the Yankees already have us by the short and curlies and are laughing at us all the way to Franky McKeenna's bank no thanks to our mindless politicians Small wonder David Alward speaks for us in Beantown while his old pal Bernie Lord takes over our Health Care cause the liberals can't handle it N'esy Pas?


Ross Piercey
Ross Piercey
@David Amos

Speaking of McKenna, isn’t he out in AB hired by the NDP to come up with ideas to boycott BC? Probably pitching this same smart meter scheme to Notley.

David Amos
David Amos
@Ross Piercey Nope he is picking the next boss of the RCMP

David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos On all my legal documents I use the address of the house Franky Boy was born in. Find my Twitter account and click on the link under the words "Go Figure" in my profile and you will understand why.


Ross Piercey
Ross Piercey
@David Amos he’s on Notley’s payroll.

http://daveberta.ca/tag/frank-mckenna/

David Amos
David Amos @Ross Piercey Franky Boy everybody's favourite Bildererger is on everybody payroll. That is how the wicked game works with Banksters. Methinks the Lady who will be the next boss of the RCMP will make a lot of old ghosts once proudly buried in their Red Serge roll in their graves for years to come. After all 2015 was 3 years ago. Its a Brave New World under his Right Honourable Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger's regime. N'esy Pas?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/next-rcmp-commissioner-will-reshape-the-police-force-frank-mckenna/article37717476/
David Amos
David Amos
@Ross Piercey Too Too funny Checkout page one of the document I told you to look for under "Go Figure" in my Twitter account

"Notley announced the appointment of a high-profile task force of former politicians (including former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna and former deputy prime minister Anne McLellan), government bureaucrats and economists to help determine Alberta’s next actions. She also reiterated this week that the federal government should help resolve the situation."


David Amos
David Amos
@Ross Piercey BTW I got a kick out of the The Ban the Tie Brigade :)


Ross Piercey 
Ross Piercey
Amazing, all these comments and not one down tic, that tells me what the resistance will be, NB power is fighting a losing battle.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Ross Piercey The NB Power lawyers and the NBEUB have already practiced liable against me and that is a Criminal Act under Section 300 and the RCMP think I am joking. Trust that I am not. Anyone can read what they filed against me as an Intervenor just before Halloween.

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560

Methinks the RCMP i just another Crown Corp that does not know how to read what is published in the Public Record, then check the Criminal Code they have a mandate to uphold and then do their job in a ethical and diligent fashion N'esy Pas?


Paul Bourgoin
Shawn McShane
In every single case of smart meter roll out by a utility the aim is to charge rate payers more during peak times...every single time. If you work, if you have school children, if you go to bed at a decent time and wake up at a normal time you will pay more, up to 80 per cent more.. In Ontario cost of electricity at peak periods has soared 82 per cent since 2010 and has done nothing to cut electricity demand.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/smart-meters-hydro-bills-ontario-time-of-use... 


Ross Piercey
Ross Piercey
@Shawn McShane

And the people are starving or freezing to death, all while the politicians make sure they get compensation to cover their cost of living.

David Amos
David Amos
@Ross Piercey Don't forget the politician's fancy pensions after only a few years of hardly doing anything at all and have fancy lawyer/professors protect their interests in the "Mean" time. Methinks that is why ex Premier Graham (because of NB Power) kept his seat in the legislature for quite some time without darkening the halls N'esy Pas?


Ross Piercey
Ross Piercey
NB Power......... What we pay you to come up with is ideas to generate power at the best price possible. Not look for ways to gouge the end users so we don’t use any power, and, btw I’ll gladly pay what’s fair.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ross Piercey There are already twice as many comments n the NB Power nonense than there were yesterday and the lion's share were mine. Seems that folks are starting to build up a little steam. Good Please check my work.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-hearing-eub-1.4544322


Ross Piercey
Ross Piercey
@David Amos

Yes, you have been busy, all that’s left to do is get the majority of NB power users to say, “NO” to smart meters, as the politicians aren’t doing anything to stop this madness.

David Amos
David Amos
@Ross Piercey FYI I ran for public office five times thus far Right now I am considering to do so again. This time against David Coon in Fredericton because he and his not so "Green" Party support Smart Meters amongst many other things I disagree with.



Ross Piercey
Ross Piercey
@David Amos

Is there an online petition started on this?

Paul Bourgoin
Joe Godin
Nothing whatsoever wrong with smart meters.

As long as they do NOT delve into time-of-day billing.

You know, charging the highest rates when working people and families are at home, cooking dinner, doing the laundry, the usual activities of daily living.

After all, time-of-day expects people to cook their meals and do their laundry in the middle of the night or during the day. Conducive if you are unemployed or an unproductive, noncontributing welfare recipient. But for people who WORK and SUPPORT the economy or have a family, let alone a life?


David Amos
David Amos
@Joe Godin "As long as they do NOT delve into time-of-day billing."

That is the plan



David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin "I wonder if there is under-billing, or special deals where industry sells electricity to NB-POWER for more money than it cost NB-POWER to produce? ??????"

Humm Ever heard of the Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program?

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/erd/energy/content/industrial.html


SarahRose Werner  
Michael Hunt
NB Power please don't do any thing until after September when Peoples Alliance take power .

SarahRose Werner
SarahRose Werner
@Michael Hunt - NB Power please don't do any until the People's Alliance takes power and/or hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

David Amos
David Amos
@SarahRose Werner I would prefer that hell freeze over rather than PANB taking the reigns of power

SarahRose Werner 
John Seritoga
These smart meters are just devices to rip people off. And the money that people will get cheated out of because of these devices, will never be recouped by the customer. It is a Win/win situation for NB Power. And they will put the spin on it to get people on board. In order to line their pockets, they will have to get as many people who are ignorant to the fact these meters will wind up causing them to be over charged, on board...

But of course the government only pays attention to what the voters think when they want those votes...


David Amos
David Amos
@John Seritoga "the government only pays attention to what the voters think when they want those votes"

FYI That is why I am making so many comments about this issue


Paul Bourgoin
Art Clogg
Real smart those meters. And supported by real smart people.

During tropical storm Arthur my power was out 14 days. That's half a month. NB power announced, 'You will be paying for power you didn't use because we were unable to read meters in the aftermath of Arthur.'

A year later my bill had not reflected a half month of not having any electricity so I contacted NB Power asking, 'Where's the half month you did not supply power to me?' And the answer was,  'I don't know but I assure you everything is fine now. There is nothing you can do.'


David Amos
David Amos
@Art Clogg Did you do anything?

Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@David Amos
Small claims court with the press present!

David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin FYI I got nine judgements from the Federal Court in Fredericton recently and the press never said a peep

  
Paul Bourgoin
Dianne MacPherson
I used to TRUST NB Power !!!
Once the 'trust' is gone it will be a
hard sell for anything they say will
benefit the customer.
All the complaints of 'jacked up' rates
this winter can't ALL be wrong !!


David Amos
David Amos
@Dianne MacPherson Folks thought I was crazy to support Hydro Quebec buying NB Power. However anybody notice how much they are selling electric power to Yankees who think they can practice "behavioural psychology" on me. Good luck with that if I truly am crazy.


Wendy Staples 
Wendy Staples
NB Power representatives claim "they are not expecting much public resistance to the installation of smart meters in the province", well I suggest that they actually check with the public before ASSUMING that they will not meet much public resistance! The Media should be following the money trail and reveal the big players pushing to implement Smart Meters in this province!! Do some investigative research and reporting for a change Brunswick News rather than simply repeating what is being said at these meetings, don't just take NB Power's word that they are safe because there is a reason that other provinces have had them removed from their customers' homes. Go to the Facebook page Hydro One - Enough is Enough like some did and query Hydro One's customers like some did, beside not being safe their customers are unanimous that our bills will continue to climb even more than they are now! Smart Meters will not benefit NB Power's customers but rather the power players hiding behind the NB Power representatives! Do your homework Brunswick News, simply do your homework!!


David Amos
David Amos
@Wendy Staples Methinks its rather comical that NB Power would hire a Yankee lady and pay her with our money to insult us N'esy Pas?

Stephanie Haslam
Stephanie Haslam
@David Amos This is a cash cow, plain and simple. This woman, and others, has products to sell. "A few experts suggest that smart-meter conversion represents little more than a boondoggle that is being foisted on consumers by the politically influential companies that make the hardware and software that are required for the smart-meter conversion." http://www.consumersdigest.com/special-reports/why-smart-meters-might-be-a-dumb-idea


Stephanie Haslam
Stephanie Haslam
@Wendy Staples, absolutely. Investigate. Who are the consultants? Why are they here? With what other companies are they affiliated? Why did Alward sign a contract with Siemens for ten years? It's not enough to accept the platitudes. Do some digging.

David Amos
David Amos
@Stephanie Haslam NB Power has been the politicians cash cow since I was a kid and I am collecting my old age pension now. Do tell did you bother to read my replies to you yesterday?


David Amos
David Amos
@Wendy Staples "Smart Meters will not benefit NB Power's customers but rather the power players hiding behind the NB Power representatives! Do your homework Brunswick News, simply do your homework!!"

If PANB did their homework then why did they not Intervene in this matter like I did?



Wendy Staples
Wendy Staples
@David Amos, are you intervening? And why just PANB? There are the Liberals, the PC's, the Green, and KISS....you are showing some bias so to be honest, I'd be suspect of your homework....just saying.

David Amos
David Amos 
@Wendy Staples Yes both I and the Leader of KISS did Intervene in both the 357 and the 375 Matters. I ain't just saying it. What I am telling you is true.

Methinks it best that The PANB do its homework before insulting mine N'esy Pas?

To me PANB is just another Johnny Come Lately to this issue that has been going on since 2011 or so. As your political boss well knows I first ran for public office in 2004. Tell him and his blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc to come to the Hearings next week in Fredericton and try to argue me with your Smart Phones recording our spit and chew.


Wendy Staples
Wendy Staples
@David Amos I don't doubt that you did try to intervene but I don't believe I mentioned anything about PANB in my initial comments or in this feedback thread so I'm really not sure why you are taking jabs at them....but that's okay, it's a good thing in my eyes...

Alex Forbes  
Alex Forbes
Going of grid seems more and more enticing...


David Amos
David Amos
@Alex Forbes "Going of grid seems more and more enticing"

Thats my plan I am checking nifty 12 volt well pumps run off of a small solar panel right now


Jim Seymour 
Jim Seymour
I don't know but if Ontario is any indication of what smart meters will do then we are in for an expensive ride. I fear that as soon as everyone is on board with smart meters they will start charging different rates peak and off peak rates. This will make heating with hydro very very expensive and having to do laundry is the middle of the night.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Seymour "This will make heating with hydro very very expensive and having to do laundry is the middle of the night."

Trust that if you do what NB Power wishes your bill will still climb anyway because they want more money not less.


Brian Robertson 
Brian Robertson
If NB Power was truly interested in New Brunswckers reducing consumption and lowering their operating costs, they would not be pursuing a program that costs millions and does nothing but facilitate the implementation of surcharges to their customers.

What happened to incentives for the purchase of heat pumps?
Where is the policy to add insulation in customers' homes?
Why not provide a service that does a thermal scan of customer's homes to identify problems?

Instead, this monopoly is going to be allowed to saddle their captive customers with expensive technology that does nothing but cost them an increased monthly bill.

What's the point of having a EUB if they just sit on their hands and allow this shearing of sheep to occur.


David Amos
David Amos
@Brian Robertson "What's the point of having a EUB if they just sit on their hands and allow this shearing of sheep to occur."

In a nutshell the EUB is just another cash cow for the lawyers and "experts" involved in the hearings. The EUB has no real power and anything they do can be overturned by the Minister who oversees their malicious nonsense.


Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@David Amos
"The EUB has no real power and anything they do can be overturned by the Minister"

Exactly! That is the real problem. I can recall a few years ago when changes were being proposed that would have allowed the EUB to have the final say without any government interference. Sadly, these common sense changes were quietly ignored.

David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Brewer I told it to them in no uncertain term for 21 minutes on February 7th and NBEUB won't publish the Transcript of the one and only PUBLIC Session Fo Figure


Wendy Staples 
SarahRose Werner
Behavioural science, ha! Common sense will shape customer reaction to smart meters. People will still need to turn their lights on when it gets dark outside and turn the heat up when it gets cold outside. Having different levels of pricing for different usage periods will result in *no* savings for customers and higher revenues for NB Power. Customers will react with - surprise! - anger and disgust.


David Amos
David Amos
@SarahRose Werner "Customers will react with - surprise! - anger and disgust."

True but they will still pay the bill or the lights will go out


William Roberts 
William Roberts
Yet, an expensive public relations campaign is in the works.
There I fixed it for you!!
If it were such a great Idea it would not require all the song and dance.


David Amos
David Amos
@William Roberts "Yet, an expensive public relations campaign is in the works."

YUP

When I was at the hearing I watched who was hanging around and sipping wine after hours with Lynn Arsenault,. Methinks that since young Lacroix lost his job promoting Energy East he has landed another one promoting Not So Smart Meters I will lay odds he will enlist old Moe to help him just like last time. After all old Moe has all the connections with the money dudes such as McKenna N'esy Pas?



David Amos
Content disabled
David Amos
@Stephanie Haslam I must say I found it rather interesting that you buried my comment but neither of you will respond to me.


David Amos
David Amos
@William Roberts Hmmm CBC is playing the "Content disabled" game between you and I again Why is it that I am not surprised? You do know the Electrical Workers Union supports Smart Meters Correct?



 ---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:15:32 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
To: Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca, wharrison <wharrison@nbpower.com>,
"Furey, John" <jfurey@nbpower.com>, "rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>,
ecdesmond <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>, "Dave.Young" <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "david.eidt" <david.eidt@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "jody.carr" <jody.carr@gnb.ca>,
"Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>,
ethics-ethique <ethics-ethique@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, "bill.pentney" <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
 "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "ht.lacroix" <ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>,
"sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>,
 "hon.melanie.joly" <hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>,
"darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>

Good afternoon Ms Mitchell,

Please do not take this email the wrong way. I have the greatest of
respect for you but as you well know I cannot say the same of your
bosses. I know you are very busy doing your job within the hearing so
this email will have to do. Byway of the news in CBC today it appears
that you may be busy for quite sometime with this matter. More
importantly the spin the CBC is putting on this matter is offending me
greatly and obviously their bosses know it as well..Such are the
actions of a fierce but ethical politcal animal.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-hearing-eub-1.4544322

'It will take the time that it takes': NB Power rate hearing way behind schedule
Deep dives into smart meters, efficiency programs prolong what was a
12-day proceeding
By Robert Jones, CBC News Posted: Feb 21, 2018 6:00 AM AT

"It will take the time that it takes," said Beaulieu on day three of
the hearing when NB Power lawyer John Furey first raised concerns
matters were falling behind schedule.

Several self-represented participants have been taking turns
questioning NB Power's plans on an equal footing with lawyers hired by
companies, like J.D. Irving Ltd. and Enbridge Gas New Brunswick, and
municipal utilities like Saint John Energy.

Gently guided on proper procedure by Beaulieu, non-professional
participants have had free rein to have a say.

Anti-smart meter activist and St. Louis de Kent dentist Roger Richard,
left, and environmentalist Daniel LeBlanc spent hours questioning NB
Power witnesses. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

Those participants include environmentalist Chris Rouse, anti-smart
meter activist and St. Louis de Kent dentist Roger Richard and
political hopeful Gerald Bourque, the leader of the fledgling KISS
N.B. Political Party.

They've been able to submit evidence, call witnesses and cross-examine
NB Power executives and others and make motions.

NB Power deadline in jeopardy

On day five, Beaulieu told environmentalist Daniel LeBlanc, who is
working with Richard, to take as long as he needed to get full answers
to questions from NB Power witnesses.

"If you feel that your questions are not answered — you have the
floor, so it's your right to ask your question again if you feel the
panel members are not responding to your questions," he said.

"Thank you," said LeBlanc, who went on to ask questions for three and
a half hours."


My obvious question today is why is there such a long delay in the
public getting the chance to read the transcript of the one and only
Public Session? When we last spoke the lady sitting beside you told me
it was almost done, so why has it not been filed in the public record?

I am sorry but I no longer consider my concern about this issue
confidential because something is smelling rather fishy and I must
make my indignation well know not only for my benefit but the public
as a whole. However I also know it is not your fault that the
transcript of the Public Session was not file I blame the Board, its
lawyers and their politcal puppet masters. Obviously I made certian
the Ms. Desmond and Mr Young know it. The lawyers are all well aware
of Section 300 of the Canadian Criminal Code and why I am preparing to
sue them because the RCMP won't do their job. Hence no transcript of
the Public Session Correct Ms Desomond?

During our last converation you told me you could no longer file
anything from me and I understood.  Need I say that I regret telling
you not to file the rest of this email and its attachments so I
published them myself?

Best Regards
David Raymond Amos

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 20:34:12 +0000
Subject: RE: Public Session - NB Power General Rate Application - Matter 375
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Good afternoon,

Yes, once the public session transcript comes in I will flip that
over.  I expect to have it sometime next week.

Thanks.

Kathleen Mitchell
Chief Clerk | Greffière en chef

Energy & Utilities Board | Commission de l’énergie et des services
publics du N.-B.
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 3:38 PM
To: Mitchell, Kathleen <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Public Session - NB Power General Rate Application - Matter 375

Hi Kathleen

"I 'm Back" Will you forward me the word document of the transcript of
the public session when it is ready? Pretty Please

Best Regards
Dave



---------- Original message ----------
From: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 17:17:09 +0000
Subject: FW: Public Session - NB Power General Rate Application - Matter 375
To: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>

Good afternoon,

Please note that this evening's Public Comments Session in relation to
NB Power's General Rate Application (Matter 375) is going ahead as
planned at 6 PM at the Delta Brunswick, 39 King Street, Saint John.

Given the weather forecast for this evening, the Board will make a
teleconference bridge available for those who would like to make their
presentation by phone and not travel to the Delta Brunswick.

If you wish to present by phone, please advise at your earliest convenience.

Please note that if you have submitted a PowerPoint presentation, we
will still display your presentation on the screens in the room for
those in attendance while you give your presentation.

If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Please note that I am currently in the NB Power hearing, I have access
to my email but do not have access to telephone, however, my
colleagues at our office could answer any questions you may have if
you prefer to ask your questions by telephone at 506-658-2504 or
toll-free 1-866-766-2782.

Regards,

Kathleen Mitchell
Chief Clerk | Greffière en chef

Energy & Utilities Board | Commission de l'énergie et des services
publics du N.-B.
15 Market Square, Suite 1400
Saint John, NB  E2L 4Y9
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 16:36:16 +0000
Subject: RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Good afternoon Mr. Amos,

Just to confirm, is this email (and attachments) what you would like
to have as your written submission for the public comments session?

Kathleen Mitchell
Chief Clerk | Greffière en chef

Energy & Utilities Board | Commission de l’énergie et des services
publics du N.-B.
15 Market Square, Suite 1400
Saint John, NB  E2L 4Y9
506-643-7324 (direct)
506-658-2504 (reception)

Confidentiality Notice
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the individual for whom, or entity for which, it is intended.  It may
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to it under applicable law. Disclosure to anyone other than the
intended recipient does not constitute waiver of privilege.  Its
possession or usage, by any person other than the one for whom it is
intended, is not authorized by its author and is strictly prohibited.
If you have received this communication in error, please notify us
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informatique et de vos dossiers.  Merci.


---------- Original message ----------
From: "Jensen, Jan" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 05:42:18 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: On Feb 7th when the Yankee Lady Alice
Napoleon commented about my health and I responded that I lot of
people wished I had died, the look on her face spoke volumes to me
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of office and will have limited email access until I
return on Tuesday, February 13th, 2018.  If you require immediate
assistance, please contact my assistant at (902) 426 1798.



---------- Original message ----------
From: Paul Volpe <Paul.Volpe@enbridge.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 05:44:39 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: [External] On Feb 7th when the Yankee Lady
Alice Napoleon commented about my health and I responded that I lot of
people wished I had died, the look on her face spoke volumes to me
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for the email.
I will be away from the office at hearings and will have limited
availability to emails until further notice.  I will attempt to return
emails at intermittent times or in the evening. If anything is urgent,
please contact our Emergency line at 1-800-994-2762..

Have a great Day!

Paul Volpé
Regulatory Affairs Manager
Enbridge Gas New Brunswick
paul.volpe@enbridge.com
P: 506-457-7762
F: 506-452-2868
Emergency:  1-800-994-2762

Please support my Ride to Conquer Cancer!
http://www.conquercancer.ca/site/TR/Events/Montreal2014?px=3155479&pg=personal&fr_id=1512



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 01:41:56 -0400
Subject: On Feb 7th when the Yankee Lady Alice Napoleon commented
about my health and I responded that I lot of people wished I had
died, the look on her face spoke volumes to me
To: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>, Chris R
<Chris_R_31@hotmail.com>, "Black, Heather (OAG/CPG)"
<Heather.Black@gnb.ca>, NBP Regulatory <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>,
"KissPartyofNB@gmail.com" <KissPartyofNB@gmail.com>,
"rrichard@nb.aibn.com" <rrichard@nb.aibn.com>,
 "Sollows, David (ERD/DER)" <David.Sollows@gnb.ca>, "Gilles.volpe@enbridge.com"
<Gilles.volpe@enbridge.com>, "Paul.Volpe@enbridge.com"
<Paul.Volpe@enbridge.com>, "dave.lavigne@enbridge.com"
<dave.lavigne@enbridge.com>, Len Hoyt <Len.Hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
<jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com>,<rzarumba@ceadvisors.com>,
<bdavis@ceadvisors.com>,  <toneill@ceadvisors.com>,
<hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>, <cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com>,
"Harrison, Wanda" <WHarrison@nbpower.com>,
"Russell, Stephen" <SRussell@nbpower.com>,
"Connelly Bosse, Natacha" <NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com>, "Lawton, John"
<John.Lawton@nbeub.ca>, "Desmond, Ellen" <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>,
"Dickie, Michael" <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>,
 "Young, Dave" <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>,
"twoolf@synapse-energy.com" <twoolf@synapse-energy.com>,
"ktakahashi@synapse-energy.com" <ktakahashi@synapse-energy.com>,
"anapoleon@synapse-energy.com" <anapoleon@synapse-energy.com>,
"ahopkins@synapse-energy.com" <ahopkins@synapse-energy.com>,
"jmarusiak@synapse-energy.com" <jmarusiak@synapse-energy.com>,
"sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com" <sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com>,
"jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com" <jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com>,
"dan.dionne@perth-andover.com" <dan.dionne@perth-andover.com>,
"pierreroy@edmundston.ca" <pierreroy@edmundston.ca>,
"ray.robinson@sjenergy.com" <ray.robinson@sjenergy.com>,
"marta.kelly@sjenergy.com" <marta.kelly@sjenergy.com>,
"sstoll@airdberlis.com" <sstoll@airdberlis.com>,
"pzarnett@bdrenergy.com" <pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>, "rdk@indecon.com"
<rdk@indecon.com>, "avitulli@indecon.com" <avitulli@indecon.com>,
"efinamore@valutechsolutions.com" <efinamore@valutechsolutions.com>,
JFurey@nbpower.com, dhebert@npcc.org, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "david.eidt" <david.eidt@gnb.ca>, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>,
 "bill.pentney" <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
 "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "rick.doucet\" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>,
"leanne.murray" <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
bbachrach <bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net>, "Boston.Mail" <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>,
washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, DJT <DJT@trumporg.com>, "Paul.Collister" <Paul.Collister@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, mcohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>, djtjr <djtjr@trumporg.com>, "Liliana.Longo" <Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
 ethics-ethique <ethics-ethique@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

Clearly the lady from Beantown had not done her homework before coming
to my stomping grounds to testify. Perhaps her boss a former
Commissioner at the Massachusetts Department of Public Utilities knew
exactly who I was and told her not to worry about my concerns and that
is why Mr Woolf never returned my call or answered any emails either
EH Barry Bachrach?

http://www.synapse-energy.com/our-team/alice-napoleon

http://www.synapse-energy.com/our-team


If Alice Napoleon bothered to listen to what I said on the recond to
the NBEUB she should have contacted her Yankee lawyers by now N'esy
Pas Mr Furey and Madame Harrison?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 03:42:22 +0000
Subject: Re: Methinks lots of Indians, and the Northeastern
Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council and local Members of the Pirate
Party should enjoy listening to wiretap tapes of the Mob while reading
Landrud's letter EH Paul Collister?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: James O'Keefe <jokeefe@jamesokeefe.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 14:03:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Methinks lots of Indians, and the Northeastern
Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council and local Members of the Pirate
Party should enjoy listening to wiretap tapes of the Mob while reading
Landrud's letter EH Paul Collister?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

hi, David. There is a lot there to go over. Thanks for sharing.

James


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 23:39:12 -0400
Subject: Methinks lots of Indians, and the Northeastern Massachusetts
Law Enforcement Council and local Members of the Pirate Party should
enjoy listening to wiretap tapes of the Mob while reading Landrud's
letter EH Paul Collister?
To: bbachrach <bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net>, dylan@iamdylanavery.com,
metabunk@gmail.com, snafuradio@gmail.com, "Lon.Povich"
<Lon.Povich@state.ma.us>, ago <ago@ago.state.ma.us>, ago
<ago@state.ma.us>, "Daniel.Conley" <Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us>,
daniel.conley@suf.state.ma.us, admin@lightonconspiracies.com, jfetzer
<jfetzer@d.umn.edu>, maltpoet@gmail.com, Joseph.P.Onoroski@gmail.com,
srevilak@masspirates.org, msukin11@gmail.com, jokeefe@jamesokeefe.org,
noeseek@gmail.com, press@masspirates.org, postur <postur@for.is>,
smari <smari@immi.is>, smarim <smarim@althingi.is>, smaher
<smaher@postmedia.com>, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>,
"andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau"
<Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "Paul.Collister"
<Paul.Collister@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, ethics-ethique
<ethics-ethique@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, stateofcorruptionnh1
<stateofcorruptionnh1@gmail.com>, "Boston.Mail"
<Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>, washington field
<washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, lionel <lionel@lionelmedia.com>, RT-US
<RT-US@rttv.ru>

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2018/02/methinks-northeastern-massachusetts-law.html

Sunday, 4 February 2018

Methinks the Northeastern Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council and
local Members of the Pirate Party should enjoy listening to wiretap
tapes of the Mob EH?


No Doubt YOU and my former Yankee lawyer/friend Barry Bachrach
remember the war between Jusge "Iron Mikey" Livingstone and I N'esy
Pas Daniel Conley?

Well I ain't dead yet like poor George is EH?

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20111006/NEWS/110060359

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-L3NUJZ7g4

Charges against George Thompson dropped, but mayor won't investigate police
27,193 views
The Bay State Examiner
Published on Apr 14, 2014

Apr. 11, 2014 - Charges were dropped against George Thompson, who was
arrested for recording a Fall River police officer with his iPhone.
Thompson's video was erased while in police custody, but the mayor has
refused to open an investigation into the police department's handling
of the case.

Read more about this video here:
http://www.baystateexaminer.com/articles/charges-thompson-dropped-mayor-wont-investigate-police

If you appreciate our reporting, please consider making a donation:
http://baystateexaminer.com/donate/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Qdw5FmRgc

Fall River Man Suing Police Officer for Videotape Arrest
6,135 views
WPRI
Published on Dec 8, 2014

https://www.metabunk.org/dylan-avery-director-of-the-9-11-conspiracy-film-loose-change.t9018/

https://www.facebook.com/pg/SNAFU-Radio-819305231453328/about/?ref=page_internal


Interesting

SNAFU Radio
Call 774-357-2132
by George Thompson

Publication date 2015
Shows with guests Dylan Avery, Former Mayor Sam Sutter and his last show.


Even more Interesting

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2006/05_06/2006_06_25_Nicodemus_ToughBattle.htm
http://www.heraldnews.com/news/20160427/former-mayor-sutter-back-to-work-as-private-attorney

Tough Battle Ahead for DA
16-Year Veteran Walsh Looks to Silence Critics, Defeat Rare Challenger

By Aaron Nicodemus
Standard-Times
June 25, 2006

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/06-06/06-25-06/01topstories.htm

New Bedford — For the past 16 years, Paul F. Walsh Jr. has been the
district attorney for Bristol County. It's a job he loves, and one
he'd like to keep for the rest of his life.

"It's the best job in the world," Mr. Walsh said in his downtown New
Bedford law office, sporting his trademark green tie. "When I say
this, my ADAs (assistant district attorneys) roll their eyes, but I
mean it. You get a chance to make a difference. Every day in court,
there's a personal drama going on between a victim and a defendant.
Victims are people who can't fight for themselves. We can stand up and
be heroes to them. I wouldn't want another job."

Until this year, Mr. Walsh has had little difficulty holding on to his
dream job. After defeating incumbent Ronald A. Pina in the 1990
Democratic primary, Mr. Walsh has not been challenged in three
subsequent elections. He has built a strong political base, and enjoys
name recognition across the country and a $600,000 campaign war chest
that is down to around $400,000 now.

But this year, Fall River attorney C. Samuel Sutter is opposing Mr.
Walsh in the Sept. 19 Democratic primary. His entrance into the race
marks the first time in 16 years that Mr. Walsh's record is being
discussed and debated in such a public way.

A former assistant district attorney under Mr. Walsh, Mr. Sutter has
criticized Mr. Walsh for 19 unsolved homicides in New Bedford since
2001, for allowing the county's gun problems and gang membership to
grow under his watch, and for refusing to use wiretaps to listen in on
and record what potential suspects are saying.

Mr. Sutter said police officers are telling him that Mr. Walsh
micromanages their cases, and refuses to issue a murder indictment
unless he has an airtight case against a suspect.

"He's afraid to get an indictment unless he has an overwhelming case,"
Mr. Sutter said. "And he's lost two murder cases this year. There's a
problem here. He's not getting indictments, and he's losing murder
cases when he does."


Former mayor Sutter back to work as a private attorney
Herald News Staff Reporter
Posted Apr 27, 2016 at 1:54 PM Updated Apr 27, 2016 at 2:01 PM

Sam Sutter, the former district attorney of Bristol County who served
an abbreviated term as mayor of Fall River, has returned to his roots
as a private attorne

>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300
>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to
>> your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?
>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov,
>> jcarney@carneybassil.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, birgittaj@althingi.is,
>> shmurphy@globe.com, redicecreations@gmail.com
>>
>> FBI Boston
>> One Center Plaza
>> Suite 600
>> Boston, MA 02108
>> Phone: (617) 742-5533
>> Fax: (617) 223-6327
>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov
>>
>> Hours
>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal
>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday
>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any
>> time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our
>> office at (617) 742-5533.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
>> tapes Sell them on Ebay?
>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com,
>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com, shmurphy@globe.com, >> jonathan.albano@bingham.commvalencia@globe.com
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com
>>
>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Amos" david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> To: "Rob Talach" rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>
>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
>> a lot to you
>>
>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
>> Bernadine Chapman??
>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca,
>> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1@parl.gc.ca,
>> Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Clemet1@parl.gc.ca, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca, >> oig@sec.gov, whistleblower@finra.org, whistle@fsa.gov.uk,
>> david@fairwhistleblower.ca
>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.cajustin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
>> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca,
>> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>
>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm
>>
>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf
>>
>> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
>> Constable Peddle???
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 09:36:42 -0400
Subject: Yo Norman.Sabourin Need I say that the noname assistant of
your buddy Chief Justice David D. Smith just pissed of the wrong
Maritimer today?
To: "Norman.Sabourin" <Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca>,
david.d.smith@gnb.ca, "denis.landry2" <denis.landry2@gnb.ca>,
Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming"
<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "david.eidt" <david.eidt@gnb.ca>,
caroline.lafontaine@gnb.ca, crystal.critch@gnb.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, george.filliter@gnb.ca,
michael.bray@fosterandcompany.com, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/chief-justice-retirement-1.4515502


New Brunswick chief justice announces retirement
J. Ernest Drapeau was appointed to the office in 2003
CBC News Posted: Feb 01, 2018 5:32 PM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/david-smith-george-rideout-judge-transfer-letter-1.4515986

Sitting judge calls on chief justice to resign for defying transfer law
Chief Justice David Smith transferred a judge in December in a
challenge of new Judicature Act changes
By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Feb 02, 2018 4:00 AM AT

The Hon. George S. Rideout
Justice:
Court of Queen's Bench of New Brunswick
Moncton
Judges Chambers
145 Assumption Blvd.,
PO Box 5001, Stn. LCD 1
Moncton, New Brunswick E1C 8R3
Phone: 506-856-2301

Bell, Drapeau and Smith should have done the right thing LONG AGO


https://www.cjc-ccm.gc.ca/english/about_en.asp?selMenu=about_members_en.asp

New Brunswick
The Honourable Ernest Drapeau, Chief Justice of New Brunswick
The Honourable David D. Smith, Chief Justice of the Court of Queen's
Bench of New Brunswick

Court Martial Appeal Court of Canada
The Honourable B. Richard Bell, Chief Justice of the Court Martial
Appeal Court of Canada

Need I remind the Justice Dept that I am about to make an application to
the Supreme Court because of this wicked decision?  Please enjoy


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html

Sunday, 19 November 2017

Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
The Supreme Court

https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do


Federal Court of Appeal Decisions

Amos v. Canada
Court (s) Database

Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Date

2017-10-30
Neutral citation

2017 FCA 213
File numbers

A-48-16
Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:

THE COURT



Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT

I.                    Introduction

[1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
(Claim at para. 96).

[2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
Prothontary’s Order).


[3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).


[4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
cross-appeal.


II.                 Preliminary Matter

[5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
several judges but did not name those judges.

[6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
c. F-7:


5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
Appeal.
[…]

5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
[…]
5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.

5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
juges de la Cour fédérale.


[7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
section.
[8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
matière civile et pénale.
4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
compétence en matière civile et pénale.


[9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
(section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
appeal book.


[10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
conflict in any matter related to him.


[11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.


[12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
such judge had a conflict.


[13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
was a member of such firm.


[14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
Court of Canada over 10 years ago.


[15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
“John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
[16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
apprehension of bias:
60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
reasonable apprehension of bias:
… the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
unconsciously, would not decide fairly."

[17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
(4th) 193).

[18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.


28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."


29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.


30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
            To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
his former firm for a considerable period of time.


32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
events from over a decade ago.
(emphasis added)

[19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
Webb hearing this appeal.

[20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
(2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.

[21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.

[22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.

[23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
to recuse himself.

[24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.

[25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.


III.               Issue

[26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?

IV.              Analysis

A.                 Standard of Review

[27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
[Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
(Hospira at paras. 82-83).

[28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
interfere.


B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
Prothonotary’s Order?

[29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:

17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
(…)


21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
[footnotes omitted].


[30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
para. 27).


[31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:


[13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:

a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;

b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and

c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
(Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).

[32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
“political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).

[33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:

…When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
“The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
of process…

To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
(at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).

[34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.

[35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
supporting a cause of action.

[36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).

V.                 Conclusion
[37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
without leave to amend.
"Wyman W. Webb"
J.A.
"David G. Near"
J.A.
"Mary J.L. Gleason"
J.A.



FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD

A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
DOCKET:

A-48-16



STYLE OF CAUSE:

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN



PLACE OF HEARING:

Fredericton,
New Brunswick

DATE OF HEARING:

May 24, 2017

REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.

DATED:

October 30, 2017





APPEARANCES:
David Raymond Amos


For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
(on his own behalf)

Jan Jensen


For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL

SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
Nathalie G. Drouin
Deputy Attorney General of Canada

For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL



http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/12/attn-simon-fish-of-bmo-and-robert.html


Thursday, 21 December 2017

Attn Simon Fish of the BMO and Robert Kennedy of Dentons I just called
from 902 800 0369 Play dumb all you wish The BMO has had my documents
for years

https://www.scribd.com/document/367699089/The-Scotia-Bank-and-The-Bank-of-Montreal

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right


While I was publishing this in my blog the lawyer Bobby Baby Kennedy called
back from (416) 846-6598 and played as dumb. Hell he even claimed that he
did not know who Frank McKenna was  No partner even a lowly collection
dude within Dentons is allowed to be THAT stupid.


> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>
> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>
>
> The only hearing thus far
>
> May 24th, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
>
> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>
> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
>
>
> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> tel.: 506-457-7890
> fax: 506-444-5224
> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David
> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a
> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too late
> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca
> peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com, mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com,
> david.akin@sunmedia.ca, robert.frater@justice.gc.ca, paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca,
> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca,
> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca,
> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com
, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, gopublic@cbc.ca,
> Whistleblower@ctv.ca
>
> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do
>
> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>
> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell
> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
> Feferal Court?
>
> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but
> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
> the USDOJ for me will ya?
> To: RBauer@perkinscoie.com, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith@svlaw.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
> gregory.craig@skadden.com, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, MulcaT@parl.gc.caleader@greenparty.ca
> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com
>
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> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html
>
>
> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it yet
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400
> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy
> To:  randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry
> affect the interests of every person in every district of every
> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with
> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and
> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record.
>
> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of
> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the
> Conservatives
>
>
> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments
>
> Here is why
>
> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>
> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
> following file
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>
> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Hansen, David" David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000
> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen
> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Hello Mr. Amos,
>
> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic
> region.  We are only responsible for litigating existing civil
> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named
> defendant or plaintiff.  If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an
> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which
> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please
> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action
> and your question.  I am not the appropriate contact for other
> matters.
>
> Thanks
>
> David A. Hansen
> Regional Director | Directeur régional
> General Counsel |Avocat général
> Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires civiles et
> services de consultation
> Department of Justice | Ministère de la Justice
> Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:39 PM
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Desmond, Ellen <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>; Dickie, Michael
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<rick.doucet@gnb.ca>; premier <premier@gnb.ca>; brian.gallant
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Subject: Fwd: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:02:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
To: publicaffairs@doc.gov, ecdesmond <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>,
charles.berardescof@nerc.net, dhebertr@npcc.org, oig <oig@ftc.gov>,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"
<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, "Robert.
Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre"
<darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, leader
<leader@greenparty.ca>, mcohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>, djtjr
<djtjr@trumporg.com>, president <president@whitehouse.gov>, David Amos
<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
"rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "jeremy.keefe"
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nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, "Roger.L.Melanson"
<Roger.L.Melanson@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>, BrianThomasMacdonald
<BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>, "jake.stewart"
<jake.stewart@gnb.ca>, "bruce.northrup" <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:50:50 -0400
Subject: Attn Hon.Rick Doucet Are you aware of what transpired at eh
NBEUB on Oct, 31, 2017 and these documents with regards the U.S
.Commerce Dept concerns about NB Power and its Large Industrial
Renewable Energy Purchase Program (LIREPP)?
To: "rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "Furey, John"
<jfurey@nbpower.com>, wharrison <wharrison@nbpower.com>, "David.Coon"
<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, briangallant10
<briangallant10@gmail.com>, "Davidc.Coon" <Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>, COCMoncton
<COCMoncton@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, tglynn <tglynn@stu.ca>, mhayes <mhayes@stu.ca>,
upriverwatch <upriverwatch@gmail.com>, "brian.gallant"
<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "len.hoyt" <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
"gerry.lowe" <gerry.lowe@saintjohn.ca>, "mike.obrienfred"
<mike.obrienfred@gmail.com>, "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
"Tim.RICHARDSON" <Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "Catherine.McKenna"
<Catherine.McKenna@parl.gc.ca>, ministre <ministre@ec.gc.ca>,
"Minister.Ministre" <Minister.Ministre@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>,
"minister.industry" <minister.industry@ic.gc.ca>, min
<min@dfo-mpo.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
livesey@rogers.com, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "ht.lacroix"
<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, "hon.melanie.joly" <hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>,
"hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, rrichard
<rrichard@nb.aibn.com>, Gerald Bourque <kisspartyofnb@gmail.com>,
"greg.a.hickey.p.eng" <greg.a.hickey.p.eng@gmail.com>, premier
<premier@gnb.ca>, "greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir"
<Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>

Hey Ricky

Remember me?

As Minister you must have been made aware of the submissions put
before the NBEUB Matter No 375 on October30th, 2017 by Ms. Harrison of
NB Power.

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560

If not you are now. Correct?

Are you aware of all the malicious allegations against me by Mr. Furey
a former Assistant Attorney General of New Brunswick during a public
hearing the following day? If not the transcript of the aforesaid
hearing is hereto attached in order that you can never claim that you
and many others were not duly informed of my concerns of the malice
practiced against by a Crown Corp, as for this date. Correct?

With regards the other two document hereto attached and the text of
the forwarded emails, trust that I have been in contact with the U.S.
Commerce Dept. and many others about my concerns with NB Power for
quite some time.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Doucet, Rick (LEG)" <Rick.Doucet@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:07:58 +0000
Subject: RE: Final Docs
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Will get right on this.
Always look forward to your brilliant thoughts.
R


Hon.Rick Doucet
Legislative member for Charlotte-the isles
28 Mt.Pleasant Rd.
St.George, N.B. E5C 3K4

Phone / Téléphone : 506-755-4200
Fax / Télécopieur : 506-755-4207
E-mail / Courriel : rick.doucet@gnb.ca


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:37:18 -0400
Subject: I just called about the next EUB pre hearing on Halloween
To: "greg.a.hickey.p.eng" <greg.a.hickey.p.eng@gmail.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Is this what you wanted me to notice?

8. New Brunswick Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program

The New Brunswick Department of Energy and Resource Development (DERD)
and New Brunswick Power (NB Power), a Crown corporation, administers
the Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program (LIREPP)
pursuant to the Electricity from Renewable Resources Regulation and
with authority under the Electricity Act. According to the GNB, the
program has two main objectives: (1) reach NB Power’s mandate to
supply 40 percent of its electricity from renewable sources by 2020 by
buying energy from large industrial customers; and (2) bring large
industrial enterprises’ net electricity costs in line with the average
cost of electricity in other provinces.

The LIREPP program is available to any large industrial company that
produces renewable energy and owns and operates a facility that has an
electrical energy requirement of not less than 50 GWh per year, that
obtains all or a portion of its electricity on a firm basis (vs.
interruptible basis) from NB Power, and that exports at least 50
percent of its primary products produced to another province or
territory within Canada or outside the country. There is no formal
application process. Despite LIREPP participation being available to
all large industrial users, the GNB has reported that there are a
small number of users of the program and that all companies
participating in LIREPP operate within the pulp and paper industry.

Under the LIREPP program, NB Power first determines the credit it
wants to give the large industrial customer, such as Irving; NB Power
then works backwards to build up to that credit through a series of
renewable energy power purchases and sales and additional credits.
This overall credit is known as “Net LIREPP” or the “Net LIREPP
adjustment,” and it appears on the participating customers’
electricity bill as a credit applicable to their total electricity
charges. Irving reported that it participated in the LIREPP program
and received a Net LIREPP credit on each of its monthly electricity
bills. Irving’s receipt of the LIREPP credit is recorded in its
accounting system as a rebate.

According to the GNB, DERD performs a calculation to determine the
Canadian average firm energy rate (in $/MWh) for the relevant
industries, and then calculates the difference between that rate and
the average firm energy rate in New Brunswick. This differential is
annually calculated as a percentage. This percentage, known as the
Target Reduction Percent, is the amount by which NB Power reduces the
total electricity costs for LIREPP participants. When the Target
Reduction Percent is multiplied by the LIREPP participant’s firm
energy usage it yields the Target Discount. The Target Discount is the
amount by which NB Power reduces the electricity bill of the LIREPP
participant.

We preliminarily determine that the LIREPP program provides a
financial contribution in the form of revenue foregone, as described
under section 771(5)(D)(ii) of the Act. We further preliminarily
determine that the Net LIREPP credits provided under the program
confer a benefit within the meaning of section 771(5)(E) of the Act
because Irving received a credit from the GNB to offset its
electricity costs. We also preliminary determine that this program is
de facto specific under section 775(5A)(D)(iii)(I) because the actual
recipients of the subsidy are limited in number.

Because this program provides benefits on a recurring basis, to
calculate the benefit from the electricity credits that Irving
received under the LIREPP program, we summed the total amount of
energy subsidies reported by Irving during the POR. We divided this
total by the appropriate sales denominator.On this basis we
preliminarily determine the countervailable subsidy for Irving to be
1.58 percent ad valorem.


---------- Original  message ----------
From: "Greg H." <greg.a.hickey.p.eng@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:33:00 -0300
Subject: Re: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green
Meanies and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre
hearing on Halloween
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Just back home;...for y'r reading pleasure.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 16:06:42 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green
Meanies and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre
hearing on Halloween
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Roger Richard <rrichard@nb.aibn.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:07:09 -0300
Subject: Re: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green
Meanies and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre
hearing on Halloween
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thanks David.
I was able to understand a bit better the argumentation.
Roger.


Le 15 oct. 2017 à 13:06, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> a écrit :


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:06:34 -0400
Subject: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green Meanies
and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre hearing on
Halloween
To: "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>,
briangallant10 <briangallant10@gmail.com>, "Davidc.Coon"
<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>,
COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>, tglynn <tglynn@stu.ca>, mhayes
<mhayes@stu.ca>, upriverwatch <upriverwatch@gmail.com>,
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "rick.doucet"
<rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "len.hoyt" <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
"gerry.lowe" <gerry.lowe@saintjohn.ca>, "mike.obrienfred"
<mike.obrienfred@gmail.com>, "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
"Tim.RICHARDSON" <Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "Catherine.McKenna"
<Catherine.McKenna@parl.gc.ca>, ministre <ministre@ec.gc.ca>,
"Minister.Ministre" <Minister.Ministre@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>,
"minister.industry" <minister.industry@ic.gc.ca>, min
<min@dfo-mpo.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, livesey
<livesey@rogers.com>, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "ht.lacroix"
<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, "hon.melanie.joly" <hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>,
"hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

Are the Irvings Canada's biggest corporate welfare bums?
By Bruce Livesey in News, Energy, Politics | March 30th 2017

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/03/30/news/are-irvings-canadas-biggest-corporate-welfare-bums

YUP

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/03/24/news/are-irvings-trying-censor-cbc-reporter-jacques-poitras

Are the Irvings trying to censor CBC reporter Jacques Poitras?
By Bruce Livesey in News, Energy, Politics | March 24th 2017

NOPE THEY ARE


However NB's Evil Empire cannot put a muzzle on mean old me N'esy Pas?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html

Friday, 13 October 2017
WOW on Friday the 13th CBC informs us of Irving and their lawyers
ridiculous constitutional challenge

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-constitutional-challenge-pollution-1.4351993#vf-2325300010457

Irving constitutional challenge a threat to pollution rules
6-week trial likely to unfold in 2018
CBC News Posted: Oct 13, 2017 6:30 AM AT


 69 Comments (The tally was at 72 comments before I refreshed the page)
Commenting is now closed for this story.

At least I got quite a few posted despite the evil moderators



David Raymond Amos
Content disabled.
David Raymond Amos
I must say I find it very interesting that the Irvings would employ
the local law firm of Cox & Palmer to take on the Feds with a
constitutional challenge and yet in the very same court the Empire
strikes using the fancy law firm McCarthy Tétrault from Upper Canada
to sue the Private Woodot Owners Association in Southern New
Brunswick. Go Figure.

Methinks something smells rotten in New Brunswick and its far more
than the wild life that the Empire has been killing for years.
Methinks the stink is coming from all the old farts called Queen's
Counsels and the politicians who took an oath to the same Queen. The
Irving Empire is the result of their malevolent actions but the
lawyers. banksters and the politicians assisting them are the true
source of all our woes


David Raymond Amos
Content disabled.
David Raymond Amos
Not thats more than merely interesting I get a "Content disabled"
notification from CBC the very instant I posted my last comment about
lawyers and politicians in this "News: item


David Raymond Amos
Content disabled.
David Raymond Amos
Yep the moderators no doubt changed shifts and your gatekeepers are
hard at work blocking me again for malicious reasons N'esy Pas Hubby
Lacriox and Minister Joly?




David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy

"The farms along the Saint John River system are more detrimental to
the rive as a whole We used to be able to drink clear water out of
Washademoak Lake and Grand Lake 35 years ago."

Farms along the river have been there long before your great
grandfather's time. The farmers did us no harm as they about the
business of feeding us.

Could the fact that we can't drink the water anymore be because of the
run off of all the crap NATO buried in Base Gagetown or the crap
sprayed on our forests and farms for the benefit of corporations such
as Monsanto and the Irving Empire?

"what comes out of that Mill is a hell of a lot cleaner today the it
was 60 years ago"

That ain't saying much in your buddy Irving's defense. I suspect it
would be a hell of a lot worse if it were not for the environmental
laws put in place over the same sixty years. Now the Irvings want to
argue the environmental laws etc with a Charter challenge because they
don't like having armed DFO people storm their offices or paying
fines? Yea Right not on my watch.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-ltd-slams-environment-canada-over-armed-raid-1.756429

J.D. Irving Ltd. slams Environment Canada over armed raid

CBC News Posted: Nov 21, 2008 4:06 PM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-pulp-and-paper-charged-1.3876409

Irving Pulp and Paper charged with dumping into St. John River
Fines could total millions if company is found guilty of dumping
harmful substance at Saint John mill
By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Dec 01, 2016 1:32 PM AT


 David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
Methinks CBC, the Crown, the Conservation Council, the lawyers Helene
Beaulieu and George Cooper know how much the treehugger in me will
enjoy the Irving's Charter challenge


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Colin Seeley "A national public health organization says changes the
New Brunswick government made to the Office of the Chief Medical
Officer of Health don't make sense."

Notice that CBC did not offer a comment section in order for folks to
rebut this top bureaucrat's snobby nonsense?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/public-health-office-overhauled-1.4353800


Frank Knowles
Frank Knowles
@Randy Scott
This isn't a province. We live in the Irving Fiefdom. Only difference
is Feudal lords looked after their serfs, even if it was poorly.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Frank Knowles Methinks the correct term that describes the present
situation in New Brunswick is "Oligarchy"

However I like to call it OILgarchy" because that is what made old KC
so wealthy in the first place.


Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@Randy Scott you need to go to school so you can speak and articulate
yourself better


Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@David Raymond Amos "the correct term that describes the present
situation in New Brunswick " is Bankrupt

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Nope not by a long shot. I have been screaming for years
that we should just take all the pensioners money that John Sinclair
and his pals are playing with and pay off nearly all our debt to Frank
McKenna's Bankster buddies. Then honour our commitment to the retirees
out of general funds after that.

Is that too hard to understand? The Irving minion Blaine Higgs and the
union bosses etc whom he wined and dined thought so in 2013.


 William Roberts
William Roberts
"A 2009 report by the Conservation Council of New Brunswick found that
lung cancer rates in Saint John were 40 to 50 per cent higher than in
Fredericton and Moncton."
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/06/13/news/turmoil-irving-oil


Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@William Roberts and your point is . What's the current number 35%
less still 49% more ..what are the current numbers .. 10 year old
garbage is still 10 year old garbage .

Just stinks more

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Wrong 10 year garbage hardly stinks at all Its the stuff
from yesterday created by our politicians that reeks to the high
heavens. Methinks we must get the garbage and the unethical
politicians out of the house soon before the province is condemned.


Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@William Roberts try typing English or French .. your not very good at either

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Methinks that is a classic ad hominem by an obvious
Irving pal who can't argue well.


Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@William Roberts and you cant spell worth a darn .. you grasp of the
English Language and grammar is poor . go back to school

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Methinks you two deserve each other


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos @Tim Trites "one that has caused ordinary Canadians
the most harm was granting business entities the status of people in
relation to the Constitution. they decided corporations should have
the same rights as people."

Methinks you hit the nail on the head. Politicians know that Irving
lawyers whom I call dumb and dumber ain't got a prayer of pulling this
nonsense off on behalf of their greedy client because it they did win
a lot of politicians would be run out of office.

However I have no doubt whatsoever that the lawyers will be happy to
argue this matter all the way to the Supreme Court and lose because
they will bill the Hell out of the Irvings for their oh so precious
time and legal expertise. Trust that I will love the circus.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Brian Beaton Good luck checking the books of private companies
controlled offshore


Mike Morton
Mike Morton
@James Lebreton

Bingo! Who better to specify a more effective test than Lynn McCarty,
the expert who happens to be on the payroll.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton Trust that I checked that very questionable lady out of the gate.

From her "CURRICULUM VITAE"

http://www.arnotresearch.com/images/LSMcCarty-CV-201207.pdf

"A Review of Air Quality in Saint John, New Brunswick for JD Irving
Ltd; Development of 14 Ontario air quality guidelines based on values
established by other agencies."

"Critical body residue validation for aquatic organisms exposed to
chemicals causing toxicity by baseline narcosis, a 3-year European
Chemical Industry Council"

"An Ecotoxicological Evaluation of a Whitewater Spill at the Fraser
Inc. Pulp Mill, Edmundston NB, for Stewart McKelvey Sterling Scales"

and on and on

Need I say HMMM??


Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Fred Brewer
" when the Alward government proposed to give even more crown land to
Irving for clear-cutting,"

I'm more under the impression that he was ordered and he obeyed, just
like when the current government fired the chief medical officer and
closed her department.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Rosco holt Methinks you are quite likely correct on both counts


Mike Morton
Mike Morton
@Rosco holt aka Captain Obvious

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton aka Sgt Furious


William Roberts
William Roberts
@Alex Forbes Irving grip on NB and the Maritimes in a nut shell.
Unvarnished reality!!

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/06/06/news/what-have-irvings-done-new-brunswick


William Roberts
William Roberts
@William Roberts
“What you have is a classic captured state situation, in which a
corporation essentially takes over making policy for government,” says
Bowser. “We saw this across Eastern Europe.”


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@William Roberts I have crossed paths with both Browser and Livesey
and do not trust either of them as far as I could throw them. In my
humble opinion they are part of the controlled opposition just like
your friend in the New Brunswick Conservation Council. I labelled them
as the Green Meanies and the NDP and the liberals as the Fake Left
long ago. At least the Conservatives do not fake right.

Trust that I love debating them all when I am allowed to and they have
the sand to take me on.

Here is a good example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE



David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@William Roberts Too Too Funny how you ignored my response to you


David Raymond Amos
"Content disabled."
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos With reference to the upcoming legal argument with
the Crown. Methinks I should inform the folks who truly care that New
Brunswick does not have a constitution. Hence we must rely on the
Federal Charter. With that fact in mind methinks the Irving's lawyers
may have filed their "Charter Challenge" in the wrong court. At least
this a law N'esy Pas?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7/FullText.html

Jurisdiction of Federal Court
Marginal note:Relief against the Crown
17 (1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act or any other Act of
Parliament, the Federal Court has concurrent original jurisdiction in
all cases in which relief is claimed against the Crown.

Marginal note:Cases
(2) Without restricting the generality of subsection (1), the Federal
Court has concurrent original jurisdiction, except as otherwise
provided, in all cases in which

(a) the land, goods or money of any person is in the possession of the Crown;

Be I be mistaken or not at least the Irving lawyers and the Crown
cannot deny that a layman is practicing the spirit of full disclosure.
Correct?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html


David Raymond Amos
"Content disabled"
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos "Content disabled" ???

Oh My My perhaps the CBC bosses should read their email carefully
today N'esy Pas?


I caught the CBC gatekeepers napping again when they changed shifts N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos Yo CBC are you still blocking me?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos With reference to the upcoming legal argument with
the Crown. Methinks I should inform the folks who truly care that New
Brunswick does not have a constitution. Hence we must rely on the
Federal Charter. With that fact in mind methinks the Irving's lawyers
may have filed their "Charter Challenge" in the wrong court. At least
this a law N'esy Pas?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7/FullText.html

Jurisdiction of Federal Court
Marginal note:Relief against the Crown
17 (1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act or any other Act of
Parliament, the Federal Court has concurrent original jurisdiction in
all cases in which relief is claimed against the Crown.

Marginal note:Cases
(2) Without restricting the generality of subsection (1), the Federal
Court has concurrent original jurisdiction, except as otherwise
provided, in all cases in which

(a) the land, goods or money of any person is in the possession of the Crown;

Be I be mistaken or not at least the Irving lawyers and the Crown
cannot deny that a layman is practicing the spirit of full disclosure.
Correct?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html


Mike Morton
Mike Morton
https://www.jdirving.com/jd-irving-sustainability-environment.aspx

I guess the above link is an exercise in creative writing. Irving's
moral compass only points towards money. I didn't see any reference to
this story in the Gleaner yesterday.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton Methinks you have shown us a perfect example of
"Doublespeak" a word George Orwell coined long before I was born.

In 2004 I had no doubt whatsoever Orwell's ghost and those of my those
of my Conservative forefathers agreed with me when I called the
Liberal control of the CBC and the Irving Empire's control of the
media in New Brunswick "Newspeak"

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---------- Original message ----------
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:17:22 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Oh My it appears that the Crown Corp commony
known as the CBC does not like it when a layman qoutes the law N'esy
Pas Minister Joly and Hubby Lacroix?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

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---------- Original message ----------
From: Green Party of Canada | Parti vert du Canada info@greenparty.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:17:35 +0000
Subject: Re: Oh My it appears that the Crown Corp commony known as the
CBC does not like it when a layman qoutes the law N'esy Pas Minister
Joly and Hubby Lacroix?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

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---------- Original message ----------
From: Elizabeth.May@parl.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:17:22 +0000
Subject: Thank you for contacting the Office of Elizabeth May, O.C., M.P
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for contacting me. This response is to assure you that your
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Joly, Mélanie (PCH)" hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:17:26 +0000
Subject: Accusé de réception / Acknowledge Receipt
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable Mélanie Joly, ministre du Patrimoine canadien.

La ministre est toujours heureuse de prendre connaissance des
commentaires de Canadiens sur des questions d'importance pour eux.
Votre courriel sera lu avec soin.
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specific event, please be assured that your request has been noted and
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:17:25 +0000
Subject: RE: Oh My it appears that the Crown Corp commony known as the
CBC does not like it when a layman qoutes the law N'esy Pas Minister
Joly and Hubby Lacroix?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:17:17 -0400
Subject: Oh My it appears that the Crown Corp commony known as the CBC
does not like it when a layman qoutes the law N'esy Pas Minister Joly
and Hubby Lacroix?
To: hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, ht.lacroix@cbc.ca,
sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca, darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca,
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.caRobert.Jones@cbc.ca,
jeremy.keefe@globalnews.canmoore@bellmedia.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca,
"jan.jensen" jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca,
Bill.Morneau@canada.ca, Catherine.McKenna@parl.gc.ca,
David.Coon@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, briangallant10
briangallant10@gmail.com, Davidc.Coon@gmail.com,
BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca,
david@lutz.nb.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca, david.eidt@gnb.ca,
carl.davies@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, COCMoncton@gmail.com,
tglynn@stu.ca, markandcaroline@gmail.com, upriverwatch@gmail.com,
leader leader@greenparty.ca, elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca,
Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, jp.lewis@unb.ca,
jp.quinn@rci.rogers.com, steve.murphy@ctv.ca,
newsroom@globeandmail.ca, news@kingscorecord.com,
peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html


Friday, 13 October 2017
WOW on Friday the 13th CBC informs us of Irving and their lawyers
ridiculous constitutional challenge

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-constitutional-challenge-pollution-1.4351993#vf-2325300010457

Irving constitutional challenge a threat to pollution rules
6-week trial likely to unfold in 2018
CBC News Posted: Oct 13, 2017 6:30 AM AT


 33 Comments At least one was "Content disabled."


David Raymond Amos
Methinks CBC, the Crown, the Conservation Council, the lawyers Helene
Beaulieu and George Cooper know how much the treehugger in me will
enjoy the Irving's Charter challenge


David Raymond Amos
"Content disabled."
@David Raymond Amos With reference to the upcoming legal argument with
the Crown. Methinks I should inform the folks who truly care that New
Brunswick does not have a constitution. Hence we must rely on the
Federal Charter. With that fact in mind methinks the Irving's lawyers
may have filed their "Charter Challenge" in the wrong court. At least
this a law N'esy Pas?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7/FullText.html

Jurisdiction of Federal Court
Marginal note:Relief against the Crown
17 (1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act or any other Act of
Parliament, the Federal Court has concurrent original jurisdiction in
all cases in which relief is claimed against the Crown.

Marginal note:Cases
(2) Without restricting the generality of subsection (1), the Federal
Court has concurrent original jurisdiction, except as otherwise
provided, in all cases in which

(a) the land, goods or money of any person is in the possession of the Crown;

Be I be mistaken or not at least the Irving lawyers and the Crown
cannot deny that a layman is practicing the spirit of full disclosure.
Correct?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html


Mike Morton
https://www.jdirving.com/jd-irving-sustainability-environment.aspx

I guess the above link is an exercise in creative writing. Irving's
moral compass only points towards money. I didn't see any reference to
this story in the Gleaner yesterday.


David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton Methinks you have shown us a perfect example of
"Doublespeak" a word George Orwell coined long before I was born.

In 2004 I had no doubt whatsoever Orwell's ghost and those of my those
of my Conservative forefathers agreed with me when I called the
Liberal control of the CBC and the Irving Empire's control of the
media in New Brunswick "Newspeak"

https://www.jdirving.com/jd-irving-sustainability-environment.aspx



 Environment

Our promise to research, protect and continuously improve
At J.D. Irving, Limited (JDI) we are continually exploring innovative
new ways to lighten our environmental footprint.

Respecting the air, water, soil, forest ecosystem and local
communities, our mandate is to manage our operations so they produce
the highest quality products and services in an environmentally
sustainable and socially responsible manner.
J.D. Irving, Limited (JDI) is committed to:

    Identifying and understanding our environmental impacts on the
air, water, soil, forest ecosystems and local communities
    Investing in research to determine new and better ways to manage
our business, to address ecological concerns and to improve the use of
our resources
    Educating our employees and contractors about environmental
concerns, responsibilities, and our own policies, encouraging them to
become environmental advocates
    Best practices and building the skills of our team
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    Meeting or exceeding relevant environmental legislation and regulation
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our environmental footprint


Air
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throughout all of our operations.

Land
At JDI, we recognize that it is equally important to protect,
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JDI recognizes water is a vital natural resource that's key to healthy
communities, balanced ecosystems, as well as to the preservation of
wildlife habitat.




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "McElman, Josh (NB)" jmcelman@coxandpalmer.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 19:38:48 +0000
Subject: RE: Re Federal Court File no T-1557-15 Josh I stand corrected
about Paul Zed but look at Miller's address That said perhaps YOUR
partner Stevey Boy May or Greg Byrne or Chief Justice J. Derek Green
or former Lt Govs Ed Roberts and John Crosbie will explain
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com, "May, Steve (St. John's)"
SMay@coxandpalmer.com, "Roberts, Edward (St. John's)"
eroberts@coxandpalmer.com, Ches Crosbie ccb@chescrosbie.com,
greg.byrne@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, "Cooper, George L. (Moncton)"
gcooper@coxandpalmer.com

Dear Sir:

Thank you for your correspondence.  As we are not your counsel or
involved in a matter with you we will not be able to continue
corresponding.   I will be deleting the email you just sent and any
other correspondence without reviewing same.

Regards
Josh

Josh J.B. McElman* | Cox & Palmer | Partner

Saint John  Direct  506 633 2708  Fax  506 632 8809  Web  coxandpalmerlaw.com
Address  Brunswick Square Suite 1500 1 Germain Street Saint John NB
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informatique et de vos dossiers.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "May, Steve (St. John's)" SMay@coxandpalmer.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:24:33 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Justin
Trudeau really screwed up when he sent the nasty little Newfy Altar
Boy Richard Southcott down from Ottawa to argue mean old me
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

I am out of the office until Friday, 15 January, attending meetings in
Ottawa with limited ability to respond to e-mail.  If the matter is
urgent, please call 709-738-7800 for further assistance.


etc etc etc

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Ministre / Minister (EC)" ec.ministre-minister.ec@canada.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:49:23 +0000
Subject: RE: RE "Content disabled."At least CBC, their corporate media
pals, the Minister of Environment Catherine.McKenna and many lawyers
etc can't play dumb on Friday the 13th.
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

Merci d’avoir écrit à l’honorable Catherine McKenna, ministre de
l’Environnement et du Changement climatique.

En raison d’une augmentation importante du volume de la correspondance
adressée à la ministre, veuillez prendre note qu’il pourrait y avoir
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*********

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addressed to the Minister, please note that there may be a delay
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carefully reviewed.

For requests from‎ the media, please dial 819-938-3338 or forward your
request to ec.media.ec@canada.ca


---------- Original message ----------
From: Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:17:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE "Content disabled."At least CBC, their
corporate media pals, the Minister of Environment Catherine.McKenna
and many lawyers etc can't play dumb on Friday the 13th.
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for writing the office of Karen Ludwig, Member of Parliament
for New Brunswick Southwest. Please know that we have received your
email, and someone from our office will be in touch with you shortly.

Office of Karen Ludwig, M.P.
New Brunswick Southwest
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:17:27 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE "Content disabled."At least CBC, their corporate
media pals, the Minister of Environment Catherine.McKenna and many
lawyers etc can't play dumb on Friday the 13th.
To: marine@conservationcouncil.ca, huntsman@huntsmanmarine.ca,
lsmccarty@rogers.com, Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca,
Alaina.Lockhart@parl.gc.ca, Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca,
Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca, Wayne.Long@parl.gc.ca,
andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca,
MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, nathan.cullen@parl.gc.ca>, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html

http://www.conservationcouncil.ca/en/about-us/staff/

Matt is the Fundy Baykeeper and Marine Conservation Director. Matt
works out of CCNB’s marine conservation office in St. Andrews and
aboard CCNB’s patrol vessel, the Fundy Baykeeper.

http://www.huntsmanmarine.ca/research-applied-science-services/aquatic-services/

Les Burridge
Les joined the Huntsman Aquatic Services team following an extended
career as a Research Scientist with the federal Fisheries & Oceans
Canada. His expertise is primarily focused on environmental toxicology
and his research is well recognized globally and is associated with
the effects of contaminants in the aquatic environment on invertebrate
and finfish species. His commercial research activities at the
Huntsman involve collection of data to support commercial regulatory
applications and risk analysis focused on contaminants in the aquatic
environment.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Huntsman-Marine-Science-Centre-Fundy-Discovery-Aquarium-139003032966964/about/?ref=page_internal

Huntsman Marine Science Centre
1 Lower Campus Road
St. Andrews, NB, Canada, E5B 2L7
Telephone: +1 (506) 529-1200
Email: huntsman@huntsmanmarine.ca

http://www.arnotresearch.com/images/LSMcCarty-CV-201207.pdf

Lynn Scott McCarty
Ecotoxicologist
1115 Quaker Trail
Newmarket, Ontario, Canada  L3X 3E2
Citizenship:
Canadian
905 953-9342
lsmccarty@rogers.com

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