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'Some good days ahead of us': Wiretap conversations between Al Potter and 2nd police agent played for court
Caution: Elements of this story may disturb some readers
It starts with muffled voices and static, then the sounds of two male voices clearly cut in, discussing what's been reported in the media about the Hells Angels.
"They don't appreciate their name in the media," one voice says.
"OK, I didn't put their name in the media," the other man, purportedly Al Potter, said.
What Potter didn't know at the time was that his friend and fellow Vikings Motorcycle Club member was wearing a wiretap for the RCMP, and he was tasked with getting information on the killing of Dale Porter.
North
River resident Dale Porter, who's pictured here working on a fishing
boat, was killed on his property during the early morning hours of June
29, 2014. (Submitted photo)
The father of two, truck driver and fisherman was found fatally stabbed at the end of his driveway in North River, Conception Bay North, on June 29, 2014.
The biker turned police agent recorded the conversation nearly a year later, on April 3, 2015, at his apartment in Pleasantville, the court was told during Potter's first-degree murder trial Thursday in St. John's.
Like the police agent who testified the day before, two armed police officers walked in with the second paid informant, and kept a close eye on, the 64-year-old man.
How did you join the Vikings?
The process to get into the Vikings Motorcycle Club didn't involve an initiation process for him, the agent said, who added he was in a biker club called the Phantom Riders in St. John's about 25 years ago.
After knowing Vincent Leonard Sr. for about 30 years, the police agent said, he just asked to join one day while speaking to him outside on Cabot Street in downtown St. John's.
He said he was asking about the club, then said, "I should get in."
To which Leonard Sr. said, "Yes, we'd be glad to have you," the witness said.
He explained that members without a Harley Davidson wore green and white on their biker vests, but those who did ride, wore red and white.
As for the police agent, he said he wore red and white because he drove a Harley — one that was secretly paid for by the RCMP.
Al Potter, 55, smiles at the camera during Day 5 of his first-degree
murder trial at Supreme Court in St. John's. (Ariana Kelland/CBC)
He did not, however, have a licence.
"I didn't want to get the licence because of the arthritis," he said. "As long as I had a bike I would be a member."
The bike cost the RCMP around $6,500 secondhand, he said. The police also paid $250 for his colours and the $30-a-month club dues.
"An agent gives information to the police," the man explained, adding he would meet with police who would give him a "task" to complete.
"I'd complete the task and meet them for notes after. Once a takedown or arrest is made, I would have to appear in court and testify and I could not use a false name in court. Which I agreed to."
The original plan was for him to be paid $250,000 for his services plus a weekly "maintenance" payment, which started at $500 a week but was later upped to $800.
But months later, the RCMP came back to him with another deal, he said.
He'd be paid an extra $50,000 if he provided information on about "eight or nine people they were interested in, basically the Vikings club and the Leonard family."
To his recollection, he was a full patch member before he became an embedded RCMP informer, attending meetings in Vincent Leonard Sr.'s shed.
How he was tasked
After such meetings, he'd be picked up by the RCMP and driven to a hotel called a "safe house," he told the jury. There, he'd be greeted by multiple RCMP members who would hand him a piece of paper with his assigned task.
"Sometimes I was tasked to obtain information concerning the murder," he said.
"They would ask me to talk to [Potter] and try and start a conversation to lead up to Mr. Porter's murder. I was wearing a wire."
He had two jackets with wires in them, he explained, that began recording while still at the safe house.
The witness says he would then be dropped off to complete his "task," and was told to "make a phone call should anything happen."
One conversation picked up by wiretap and played for the jury, each given a headset, was between Potter and the agent before the two took a flight to Toronto paid for by the RCMP.
Cabot Street in St. John's was where the Vikings Motorcycle Club held meetings, the police agent said. (Bruce Tilley/CBC)
With a television blaring in the background, the agent says, "Did you hear about the news?"
"No. Well, what do you want? About what?" Potter asked.
"About the Vikings."
"What'd about them?" he probed.
"New DNA evidence linking two suspects. Ah, not releasing any evidence or won't right now," the agent said in part.
In parts of the conversation, Potter is angered at the media, saying they were printing lies about him, and he was worried the Hells Angels would be angry about the connection made to them in media reports.
"I don't go getting charged by police and telling them I'm a Hells Angel," he said. "I got Danny Williams the premier of the province is suing this f--king media."
Later, Potter said, "The c--ksucking media has got me in trouble."
"I'll go to NTV and cut their heads off," he said, laughing.
'I defended all 3 of them!'
During the conversation, with the agent probing for details on what happened in North River, Potter said, "I defended all f--king three of them!"
"Cause [the second man charged] couldn't lick a five-cent stamp, but he'd get himself in trouble.
"Buddy says, I'm f--king her tonight, not you! He says, 'I'm going to f--k your girlfriend,' he said."
The Crown's theory is that Potter and a second man, whose identity is covered by a publication ban, killed Porter after he made fun of the Vikings and make an "indecent proposal" to a woman who was dating the second man.
'I'm looking forward to working'
The conversations between the police agent and Potter continued into 2016, through letters and phone calls, after Potter was incarcerated at a correctional facility in Lindsay, Ont.
The agent also visited Potter there.
During one of those visits, in May 2016, the agent told Potter that friends of his saw him online and thought Potter would be a good choice to work as a debt collector for them when he got out of jail.
The police agent went to the Sports Club, a Vikings hangout on Boncloddy Street in St. John's, with two undercover RCMP officers, pretending they were friends from the mainland, and told Potter about the visit.
In August 2016, the police agent brought one of those undercover Mounties to visit Potter in jail, to discuss work "along the lines of a hitman and a bill collector," he testified.
In wiretapped phone calls played in open court, Potter expressed enthusiasm after his meeting with the undercover RCMP officer.
"He's a serious f--king motherf--ker," Potter told the police agent. "He's a serious cat... I'm looking forward to working and I want to do a good job."
The hour or so of phone conversations played in court Thursday afternoon — comprised of three separate calls over the summer of 2016 — are filled with easy banter and laughter.
Potter called the Viking-turned-police-agent "my brother."
Little did Potter know, the man on the other end of the line was working with the RCMP, and the call was intercepted.
"We've got some good days ahead of us," Potter told the agent in one of the calls played in court.
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RCMP fell short by failing to order a house-to-house canvassing of the
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Lawyer Josh Bryson, representing the family of Joy and Peter Bond,
talks with reporters at the Mass Casualty Commission inquiry into the
mass murders in rural Nova Scotia on April 18/19, 2020, in Truro, N.S.
on Wednesday, May 25, 2022. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)
A lawyer for families of victims killed in the Nova Scotia mass
shooting says an 18-hour delay in finding five bodies of those
murdered is a sign of "deficient" policing.
A study released Thursday by the public inquiry into the shooting
quotes RCMP supervisor Sgt. Andy O'Brien stating "it did not occur" to
him to drive to scenes other than locations where bodies were known to
be and where fires had occurred in Portapique, N.S.
The public inquiry has said 13 of 22 victims were killed by the gunman
in Portapique between about 10 p.m. and about 10:45 p.m. AT on April
18, 2020, when the killer escaped through a back road in his replica
police car.
However, the study says it wasn't until 4:46 p.m. on April 19, 2020,
that the bodies of Peter and Joy Bond and — a few minutes later —
those of Aaron Tuck, Jolene Oliver and Emily Tuck were found on a
small road called Cobequid Court at the southern end of the community.
Josh Bryson, a lawyer for the Bond and Tuck families, said the RCMP
fell short by failing to order a house-to-house canvassing of the
homes in the small community sooner than they did, adding that police
left desperate family members wondering about their loved ones' fates.
"It's deficient, it's not appropriate," Bryson said Friday in an
interview. "It's not acceptable to us. You had members on hand ....
There were no searches [in the morning].
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"They didn't seem to consider that there might have been residents in
homes who needed medical attention."
On the morning of April 19, 2020, emergency response team members were
gradually evacuating the community. However, after a call came in at
9:30 a.m. of another shooting near Wentworth, N.S., those officers
rapidly left Portapique in pursuit of the gunman. The inquiry heard
Thursday that district commander Staff Sgt. Al Carroll and Sgt.
O'Brien took charge of the Portapique area at this time, with
constables under their command. Carroll left mid-morning, leaving
O'Brien in charge.
Bryson said Bond family members had reached out to police via 911
seeking information the morning of April 19, but the requests didn't
appear to make their way to Carroll.
Carroll testified on Thursday he didn't recall receiving "any
messaging" from police dispatchers about these calls. He also said
that he didn't expect that the houses would be searched, as it was up
to the major crime investigators to take the next steps.
Const. Nick Dorrington told inquiry investigators he was ordered to
look for "fatalities on front lawns" on April 19. The study says GPS
records indicate his car stopped in front of the Bond house at 10:26
a.m. Dorrington's car was at the residence for about 30 seconds, but
he didn't enter the home.
Twenty-two people died on April 18 and 19, 2020. Top row from left:
Gina Goulet, Dawn Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean
McLeod, Alanna Jenkins. Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey
Webber, Heidi Stevenson, Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row
from top: Kristen Beaton, Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond,
Tom Bagley and Greg Blair. Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie
Ellison and Aaron Tuck. (CBC)
Bryson said he's left to wonder why the officer didn't approach the
house. "Mr. Bond was in the front door deceased, the screen door was
off its hinges, television was on, the lights were on. For someone to
sit in the driveway, it's extremely upsetting and concerning," he
said.
"There's no evidence to suggest they [the victims] were still alive
but it's very distressing to know your loved ones remained in the area
with first responders in the vicinity, but they aren't being
discovered," the lawyer added.
The theme of failures of communication has been prominent over the
past week at the public inquiry hearings.
Carroll testified on Thursday that he didn't learn until 3:30 a.m. on
April 19 that there were two key eyewitnesses who saw the killer and
his replica patrol car at about 10:15 p.m. the previous night.
Bryson said the RCMP's communications shortcomings have emerged as a
key revelation of the inquiry to date.
"A lot of this we can remedy, from my point of view, with better
systems to convey information, which would be minimal in cost," he
said.
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1. Bumbling response to Portapique
Retired RCMP Staff Sergeant Al Carroll.
Yesterday, retired RCMP Staff Sergeant Al Carroll testified via Zoom
at the Mass Casualty Commission (MCC), the public inquiry into the
mass murders of April 18/19, 2020.
Through his questioning of Carroll, MCC lawyer Roger Burrill aptly
laid out how a series of cascading policing errors built upon each
other such that the killer was able to escape Portapique long before
midnight, and that possibility wasn’t fully appreciated until Lillian
Campbell was killed in Wentworth at 9:30 the next morning.
Recall that around 10:30pm on April 18, Andrew and Kate MacDonald met
officers responding to Portapique at the top of Portapique Beach Road.
Andrew MacDonald had been shot by the killer; he was quickly given a
medical assessment and then taken to hospital via ambulance, but Kate
MacDonald stayed at the scene and related what she knew to Cst. Vicki
Colford, who maintained a road block as other officers went into
Portapique on foot.
Importantly, Kate MacDonald told Colford about the blueberry field
road, a farm road that connected Cobequid Court at the southern end of
Portapique to Brown Loop in the north, east of the roadblock.
At 10:48:41pm, Colford radioed that information:
Millbrook, if you guys want to have a look at the map, we’re being
told there’s a road, kind of a road that someone could come out,
before here. Ah, if they know the roads well.
The problem was, Carroll, who was one of the commanding officers that
night, never heard that radio transmission. “I could’ve been on the
phone,” Carroll told Burrill.
According to the MCC’s reconstruction of events at Portapique, by the
time of Colford’s radio transmission, the killer had already left
Portapique via that very same blueberry field road. But for the rest
of the night, the RCMP focus was almost entirely on finding the killer
in Portapique (albeit, the Cobequid toll plaza and COVID inspectors on
the New Brunswick border were told to be on the lookout for several
vehicles the killer owned, and later in the night an officer was
placed at the toll plaza).
In the early few hours, there was confusion as to who was in charge of
the RCMP response. At 11:45pm, Cst. Bill Neil even radioed: “I don’t
know who’s got the command,” to which Carroll responded, “Staff Rehill
has command folks — Staff Rehill has command,” referring to Staff
Sergeant Brian Rehill, who was the risk manager at the OCC centre in
Truro (I wrote about Rehill’s testimony at the MCC here). Burrill
asked Carroll why Rehill himself didn’t make that announcement, but
Carroll didn’t really have an explanation.
During that command confusion, at 11:00pm, Carroll pulled some
officers away from Portapique and directed them to a road block at
Five Houses, to the west of Portapique, established by Cst. Jordan
Carroll — Al Carroll’s son. Jordan Carroll was the first RCMP officer
responding from Amherst, and was alone at the roadblock; Al Carroll
wanted to give him backup. Al Carroll made this command without
actually being the commanding officer.
“Did I overstep my role? Yes, I did,” Carroll admitted. But Carroll
insisted that he would’ve made the same decision no matter who was at
Five Houses, and it had nothing to do with his son.
The command confusion seems to have fed the slow and ultimately
ineffective creation of containment points around Portapique, but
again, the killer had already left the community.
It was in the early hours of April 19 when Carroll and Staff Sergeant
Addie MacCallum were at the Bible Hill detachment trying to look at
maps. I say “trying” because they didn’t have reliable maps — at one
point MacCallum pulled out a road atlas. Carroll explained that
MacCallum pulled up various maps — he thought it was Google Maps or
Google Earth — on the computer, and he was looking over MacCallum’s
shoulder. Carroll explained that he wasn’t very good at computers.
The Pictometry mapping program clearly shows the blueberry field road.
From an MCC document.
The commanding officers did have access to a mapping program called
Pictometry, and a report prepared by MCC staff shows that that program
clearly showed the blueberry field road. Problem was, Carroll didn’t
know how to use Pictometry — Carroll told Burrill that it was a new
program, and as he was scheduled to retire in May 2020, he didn’t
think he should learn how to use it.
Overall, Carroll struck me as remarkably incurious. It’s been more
than two years since the terrible events he was instrumental in, and
yet he hadn’t read any of the MCC documents, nor had he read any of
the radio transcripts from transmissions during the events, or any
other of the underlying documents that he had access to and that have
now become public.
Frankly, he seemed to have been in a position of authority far too
long, and should have been put to pasture long before April 2020. He
was evidently not agile or responsive enough for such an extreme
situation, relied on personal connections rather than established
protocols, and didn’t bother to learn to use technology that could
have brought clarity to the RCMP response.
After the failed mapping attempts at Bible Hill, Carroll and MacCullum
moved to the command post at Great Village, where they continued to
look over hand-drawn maps not up to the task.
Burrill didn’t explore it, but according to Critical Incident
Commander Jeff West’s handwritten notes, at around 4am on April 19, a
crisis negotiator declared that the killer was “closure motivated” and
it was likely he was dead in the woods in Portapique.
In West’s notes he specifically names Al Carroll as the crisis
negotiator. Carroll was in fact the coordinator of the 10-person team
of crisis negotiators in Nova Scotia, but he said yesterday that on
April 18, he handed that duty over to Staff Sergeant Royce MacRae.
Whoever made the “closure motivated” declaration, they had never met
the killer before, had never talked to him, and so were not truly able
to make any psychological assessment of him, but the declaration
appears to have slowed down the overall response. Now, RCMP were just
looking for a body in the woods in Portapique.
All the while, for about six hours, the killer was very much alive and
hiding behind a welding shop in Debert.
We can’t say that it would’ve stopped the killer, but certainly if
RCMP mistakes had not piled atop each other, the response to the
killer may have looked very differently. Had Colford’s radio
transmission been heard and taken seriously; had a clear command
structure been in place from the start; had commanding officers been
able to capably use the technology available to them and comprehend
the chance that the killer had fled Portapique; had there not been an
impossible-to-make assessment that the killer was dead in the woods —
then perhaps the police response would have been more broadly focused.
Perhaps more roadblocks and checkpoints could have been established
around the province. Perhaps a search of surrounding communities like
Debert could have been undertaken. Perhaps the public could have been
warned that a killer might be at large.
The killer left his hiding place in Debert at 5:45am on April 19, and
RCMP resources were still focused on Portapique.
Nine more people were murdered that day.
On 3/4/22, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Deja Vu Anyone???
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Wednesday, 29 July 2020
> Federal and provincial governments to hold public inquiry into Nova
> Scotia mass shootings
>
>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "Pineo, Robert" <RPineo@pattersonlaw.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:25:26 +0000
>> Subject: Re: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by
>> “Independent Review” I just called Correct?
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>> < smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca>
>> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Why are you quoting my statement back to me?
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>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:53 AM
>> To: smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca; rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
>> Cc: motomaniac333
>> Subject: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent
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>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "McCulloch, Sandra" <smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:53:30 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed
>> by “Independent Review” I just called Correct?
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>>
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>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:53:20 -0300
>> Subject: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent
>> Review” I just called Correct?
>> To: smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca, rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
>> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> http://www.pattersonlaw.ca/
>>
>>
>> Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent Review”
>>
>> The “Independent Review” announced by Ministers Furey and Blair is
>> wholly insufficient to meet the objectives of providing full and
>> transparent answers to the families and the public, identifying
>> deficiencies in responses, and providing meaningful lessons to be
>> learned to avoid similar future tragedies.
>>
>> The choices of commissioners, and in particular Former Chief Justice
>> Michael MacDonald, were thoughtful and appropriate for an inquiry.
>> Former Chief Justice MacDonald is of the highest rank in judicial
>> capabilities and is of unassailable integrity. That said, any
>> decision- maker can only render decisions based on the information and
>> evidence presented to them.
>>
>> The announced “independent review” model, to be conducted in a
>> so-called “non- traumatic” and “restorative” way, will prejudice the
>> panel by restricting the evidence and information being presented.
>>
>> In a public inquiry setting, such as was employed in the Marshall and
>> Westray public inquiries, interested parties had the opportunity to
>> question the witnesses. It is a very well- held maxim in our common
>> law legal tradition, that cross-examination is the most effective
>> truth-finding mechanism available. Without proper and thorough
>> questioning, the panel will be left with incomplete and untested
>> evidence upon which to base its decision. This is completely contrary
>> to our Canadian notions of fair and transparent justice.
>>
>> Most disappointingly, Ministers Furey and Blair have hidden behind
>> their contrived notion of a “trauma-free” process to exclude the full
>> participation of the families under the guise of protecting them from
>> further trauma. This is not how the families wish to be treated.
>> Minister Furey has spoken with the families, so he must know that they
>> want to participate, not to be “protected” by an incomplete process.
>>
>> The families want a full and transparent public inquiry. Why will
>> Minister Furey not give them this? Why will he not give the citizens
>> of Nova Scotia this? “We are all in this together” has been the slogan
>> throughout 2020 - the families simply want us all, the public, to be
>> in this together now to figure out a better tomorrow for families and
>> the Province.
>>
>> For further inquiries, please contact:
>>
>> Robert H. Pineo
>> 902-405-8177
>> rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
>>
>>
>> Sandra L. McCulloch
>> 902-896-6114
>> smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca
>>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 15:11:37 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: RE My calls and emails about Federal and provincial
> governments plan to hold public inquiry into Nova Scotia mass
> shootings
> To: Dwayne.King@
> Ronda.Bessner@
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:32:30 -0300
> Subject: RE My calls and emails about Federal and provincial
> governments plan to hold public inquiry into Nova Scotia mass
> shootings
> To: "barbara.massey" <barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "barb.whitenect"
> <barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
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> tim <tim@halifaxexaminer.ca>, zane@halifaxexaminer.ca,
> media@masscasualtycommission.
>
> https://www.saltwire.com/cape-
>
> N.S. Mass Casualty Commission to announce participants in Portapique probe
> Chris Lambie · Posted: April 30, 2021, 4:43 p.m.
>
> Investigators want to hear from anyone who can shed light on the
> events of April 18-19, 2020, says the release. “If you or someone you
> know wants to get in touch with the investigations team, please
> contact Joel.Kulmatycki at 902-394-3501 or
> Joel.Kulmatycki@
>
>
> https://www.saltwire.com/cape-
>
> 'I have no idea who to trust anymore': card raises independence
> questions about Nova Scotia's Mass Casualty Commission
> Chris Lambie · Posted: May 5, 2021, 6:46 p.m.
>
> https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/
>
> 'We have got to have someplace to put our trust': High expectations
> for the Mass Casualty Commission
> Heidi Petracek 2016
>
> Heidi Petracek
> CTV News Atlantic Reporter
> Published Friday, June 4, 2021 7:28PM ADT
>
>
> https://www.canadaland.com/
>
> CANADALAND
> #372 The RCMP’s Portapique Narrative Is Falling Apart
> Frank Magazine publisher Andrew Douglas and reporter Paul Palango
> discuss their bombshell story, and what the RCMP may still be hiding
> about Gabriel Wortman.
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Wednesday, 29 July 2020
> Federal and provincial governments to hold public inquiry into Nova
> Scotia mass shootings
>
> https://twitter.com/
>
> David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos
> Methinks lots of folks may enjoy what Peter Mac Issac and his cohorts
> said while the RCMP and a lot of LIEbranos were stuttering and
> doubletalking bigtime N'esy Pas?
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> #nbpoli #cdnpoli
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
>
> Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government
>
>
> 58,732 views
> Streamed live on Jul 27, 2020
>
>
> Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
> Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government - Peter Mac Issac
>
> ----------Origiinal message ----------
> From: Peter Mac Isaac <prmibullrun@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:42:20 -0300
> Subject: Re: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." Methinks
> it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by the Pierre Elliott
> Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
> A lot of info to chew on - every now and then we win one - Today we
> won a partial victory when the provincial liberals threw the federal
> liberals under the bus forcing their hand . Now the spin will be to
> get a judge they can control.
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
>
> Police Corruption? Nova Scotia Shooter - Behind The Scenes
>
>
> 86,369 views
> Streamed live on Jul 28, 2020
>
> Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
> Nova Scotia Shooter Behind The Scenes with Paul Palango a former
> senior editor at The Globe and Mail and author of three books on the
> RCMP, the most recent being Dispersing the Fog, Inside the Secret
> World of Ottawa and the RCMP. His work on the Nova Scotia massacre has
> been published in MacLeans and the Halifax Examiner.
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Timothy Bousquet <tim@halifaxexaminer.ca>
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Subject: Automatic reply: Hey Sheila I just called the MCC to ask why
my latest email to the lawyer Emily Hill bounced Your boss Trudeau or
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Gun shop owner: Politicians use tragedy to push political agendas
What Happened to Transparency?
By Richard Bell
[Editor’s Note: The Liberals’ commitment to secretive decision-making played a role in their electoral loss. In the PC’s successful campaign, Premier Tim Houston made a commitment to transparency one of his core campaign themes.
We were therefore disappointed when the Houston administration decided in December 2021, to continue supporting the secrecy surrounding the Liberals’ decision to build a new junior/senior high school in the Eastern Shore Industrial Park.
The Liberals’ school decision-making left many unanswered questions which the Cooperator continues to investigate. The previous premier promised a government of transparency when the Liberals won in 2013, but McNeil abandoned his promise once he was in office. The new premier promised to do better.]
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"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
--George Orwell, 1984
Politicians like to claim they’re champions of transparency, until they must deal with actual requests for documents. Nova Scotia’s Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FOIPOP) is a toothless law because the Information and Privacy Commissioner cannot force the government to release information.
In his first campaign to become Premier in 2013, Stephen McNeil promised to give the Commissioner order-making power to correct this fatal weakness. But once in office, McNeil changed his mind, leaving government with the power to ignore the findings of the Commissioner.
The new Premier, Tim Houston, has always presented himself as a staunch advocate of transparency in government and a strong critic of the Liberals’ secrecy. In his campaign for Premier, he promised to strengthen the FOIPOP Act by giving the Commissioner order-making power to compel the government to release FOIPOPed documents.
But when presented with an opportunity to reverse one of the McNeil administration’s critical FOIPOP decisions, the Houston administration failed to act in the interest of transparency.
Liberals Hide Document
The PCs’ failure to uphold transparency grew out of the bitter dispute over the Liberal’s 2021 decision to replace both Eastern Shore District High School in Musquodoboit Harbour, and Gaetz Brook Junior High in Gaetz Brook, with a combined junior/senior school to be built in a failed industrial park in East Chezzetcook. This decision involves the largest provincial expenditure in many decades on the Eastern Shore, an estimated $30 million or more, a decision that will affect the lives of these communities for at least the next 50 years.
During this fight, someone filed a FOIPOP asking for a copy of a critical document, a March 2020 technical report by the then Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal Department.
(Requests for FOIPOPs are anonymous.) The very existence of this report was a secret, until the public release of FOIPOP 2020-20456-TIR on January 14, 2021.
But the McNeil administration redacted every single word in the text of this six-page document except the title, a cover sentence, and segment titles. The names of the two sites were redacted. Without this document, it is impossible for the public to determine whether the McNeil administration violated its own new regulations for school site selection.
Houston Hides Same Document
After
Houston’s election, someone filed a new FOIPOP request for the same
document that the McNeil administration redacted in 2020. On October 27,
2021, Houston’s Department of Public Works released FOIPOP
2021-01772-DPW, which contained the same completely redacted document
that the McNeil administration released in FOIPOP 2020-20456-TIR.
I emailed a series of questions to Premier Houston asking why DPW was not observing his commitment to greater transparency. I spoke several times with his press secretary, Catherine Klimek. She told me that the Premier’s office itself was now reviewing the handling of FOIPOP 2021-01772-DPW. But on December 16, 2021, Klimek notified me that after an “all hands on deck” review, they had decided to redact the entire text of the document.
Background Information v. Advice to a Minister
Both administrations invoked two very broad exemptions in the FOIPOP Act, 14(1) and 17(1), to justify redacting every single word in the text. But the law makes a critical distinction between “background information,” to which the public is entitled, and “advice, recommendations or draft regulations developed by or for a public body or a minister,” to which the public is not entitled.
Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner Investigator Darren White provided a careful explanation of the distinction between “background information” and “advice” in a 10-page September 7, 2021, letter concerning an appeal of the denial of information in a FOIPOP about one of the McNeil administration’s other secretive actions, the delisting and offer to sell Owls Head Provincial Park.
According to White, the drafters of the exemption for “advice” in 14(1) “very clearly sought to protect the process by which decisions are reached within government, as confirmed by the Supreme Court.”
But he then pointed out that the law’s very next section, Section 14 (2), says the government cannot refuse requests for “background information.” (“The head of a public body shall not refuse pursuant to subsection (1) to disclose background information used by the public body.”)
White offered a useful test for how to distinguish between “background information” and “advice.”
The drafters of Section 14 (2), White wrote, “also, and equally clearly, articulated that the background material (objective facts and history) underlying those decisions are not protected from disclosure. A significant part of citizens being able to hold their government to account per s. 2(a) is knowing what objective facts existed at the time a government made a decision. This is why the very next line in s. 14(2) says (emphasis mine): ‘The head of a public body shall not refuse pursuant to subsection (1) to disclose background information used by the public body.’” [These emphases are in White’s letter.]
There may very well have been material in the TIR technical report that qualifies as “advice.”
The "Reasonable" Person Test
In his letter, White’s test is to ask whether a “reasonable” person would agree with the government’s claim that every single word in the text of this report was “advice.”
Here are the titles of the seven blank segments of the report: Site location and Size; General Terrain; Transportation and Accessibility; Hazards, Legal Issues, and Environmental Concerns; Access to Services; Adjacencies; and Cost Factors.
It is “reasonable” to assume that at least some of the words and phrases of this document are “background information”? In what way, for example, would a description of the “General Terrain” of a proposed school site be considered “advice,” as opposed to “background information”?
Both McNeil and Houston also invoked Section 17 (1) to justify redacting the entire text.
Section 17(1) allows “the head of a public body” to withhold “information the disclosure of which could reasonably be expected to harm the financial or economic interests of a public body or the Government of Nova Scotia or the ability of the Government to manage the economy….”
Here again, is it “reasonable” to assume that every single word in the seven sections poses a threat the economy? How could information about the “General Terrain” of a possible school site “reasonably be expected to harm” the province’s economy or the ability of the government to manage the economy?
By invoking sections 14(1) and 17(1), Houston’s administration has done exactly what White specifically warns against—that no administration should be “the sole determiner of what is important to the public and what is not. No part of the act indicates that this is the case.”
So unless the PCs pass a law giving the Information and Privacy Commissioner the power to force the government to release documents, as Premier Houston promised to do during his campaign, the current government (and all future governments) will remain “the sole determiner of what is important to the public and what is not.”
And the public will never know what is so damning in this
document that both the previous Liberal government and the current PC
government redacted every word in the document except the title, an
opening sentence, and the segment titles.
Locked and Loaded: Nova Tactical Continues to Grow
By Jill Bellefontaine
Richard Toulany of Porters Lake is no stranger to the business world. At 14 years old, he started helping out with his parent’s family business, Toulany’s Pizza, in East Chezzetcook. Ten years later and now 24 years old, Toulany is the Owner/Founder of Nova Tactical on Windmill Road, Dartmouth.
It all started for Toulany when he was working for a supply store that sold hunting and fishing gear. “As a salesman I could see there was a high demand for certain gear that wasn’t being carried in store and I saw an opportunity in the space for rent upstairs and went for it,” recalled Toulany, who opened Nova Tactical on his 20th birthday.
But he didn’t stop there. After settling into his store, Toulany later jumped at an opportunity to occupy both levels of the store and add a firearm/archery range called Nova Shooting Centre onto the building. After a year of construction, the newly built ranges are the center of attention at Nova Tactical. There is a spacious lounge area with a pool table, foosball table, TV and sofas, popcorn machine, speed bag, and a phone charging station.
The gun range consists of 9 lanes, including a wheelchair accessible lane. No license is required to shoot at the range and there are a variety of membership packages available as well as packages for non-members. The archery range has 13 lanes.
“I am extremely happy with the success of the range so far, I really wouldn’t have it any other way,” said Toulany. In November, Nova Tactical will have simulators for customers to use. “A simulator is a real firearm with no ammunition,” Toulany explained. “They are CO2 gas powered. They’re essentially for anyone young or old who does not feel comfortable shooting a real firearm.”
Nova Tactical is big on promoting firearm safety. They offer the NFARSO (National Firearms Association Range Safety Officer) course, an in-house holster course, and advanced shooting classes. They also offer bachelor/bachelorette parties, birthday parties, and special shoots for occasions like, Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, Valentine’s Day and more!
Nova Tactical is currently in the process of expanding to a second location in the Halifax area. The second location will also include a firearm/archery range along with the tactical shop. The current projection date for opening is mid-2019. People with memberships to the Dartmouth location will also be able to access the new location when it opens.
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Brenda Lucki “made a promise” to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and former public safety minister Bill Blair to use the tragic mass shooting to support Liberal Party gun control laws.
Canada's largest mass shooting is quickly morphing into what may be one of the country's largest scandals involving the RCMP and the Liberal government.
That's why Rebel News sent B.C. reporter Drea Humphrey and videographer Lincoln Jay to Nova Scotia to bring you first-hand reports from the official inquiry into the RCMP's response to the tragic event.
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MCC - DAY 59 - CHRIS LEATHER (DAY 2)
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'We failed you': Senior Mountie apologizes to families of mass shooting victims
Chief Supt. Darren Campbell says he promises RCMP will do better
As he broke down, Campbell said it was the first time he has cried in two and a half years.
"I apologize for failing," he said. "I'm truly sorry that we failed you, and I promise that we'll do better."
Campbell testified Monday and Tuesday before the Mass Casualty Commission leading the public inquiry into the rampage on April 18-19, 2020, when a gunman shot and killed 22 people over 13 hours in several communities throughout the province. The victims included a pregnant woman and an RCMP officer.
At the time of the shootings Campbell was the support services officer, which is one of the highest-ranking RCMP positions in the province. He handled most of the public briefings after April 19, 2020, and was in charge of bringing in critical incident resources like incident commanders and the emergency response team.
Campbell's apology seemed genuine and "heartfelt" to at least one man who lost his parents in the mass shooting.
'One of the biggest things I wanted to hear'
Ryan Farrington of Trenton, Ont., said he'd been waiting more than two years to hear the RCMP apologize and take responsibility for what happened.
"It's one of the biggest things I wanted to hear … that 'we messed up,'" Farrington said Wednesday.
"For him to come out and say that in the position that he's in, being a senior officer still, I can truly appreciate that. And that meant a lot to me."
Farrington's mother, Dawn Madsen, and stepfather, Frank Gulenchyn, were killed by the gunman in their Portapique home the night of April 18.
After Campbell's apology, Farrington said he met with the senior Mountie Tuesday afternoon. He said he told Campbell his family was thankful for him openly "admitting the guilt" and saying sorry.
Ryan
Farrington, who lost his mother Dawn Madsen and stepfather Frank
Gulenchyn in the Nova Scotia mass shooting, speaks to reporters outside
the public inquiry in Halifax on July 27, 2022. (Robert Short/CBC)
When asked whether he forgives Campbell and the RCMP, Farrington said he does still "struggle" with that.
"I forgive Mr. Campbell," he said. "As for the RCMP, I still think there needs to be work. They need to show that changes are being made in order for me to move forward, and trust the RCMP again and to forgive the entire RCMP community."
Chief Commissioner Michael MacDonald had one question for Campbell — something he said he has been struggling to wrap his head around. He wanted to know why RCMP members didn't find the bodies of five victims on Cobequid Court in Portapique, including the Tuck and Bond families, until the evening of April 19, 2020.
"Why was it that in your experience, and you've reviewed it all if you can help me understand, how it came to be that the priority for the threat seemed to have overwhelmed what was going on in Portapique?"
Campbell said he wasn't on the ground that day and could only speak based on his experience of more than 30 years.
"My experience is based on one or two scenes, not 16 scenes," he said. "In terms of the scope and enormity of the situation and the confusion that the perpetrator caused … to establish the fraction of awareness of the scope and magnitude would've taken some time."
Twenty-two
people died on April 18 and 19, 2020. Top row from left: Gina Goulet,
Dawn Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean McLeod, Alanna
Jenkins. Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey Webber, Heidi
Stevenson, Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row from top: Kristen
Beaton, Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond, Tom Bagley and Greg
Blair. Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie Ellison and Aaron Tuck.
(CBC)
Campbell said he "wasn't trying to make an excuse" but he does have some level of understanding of the pressure for members who were responding that day.
"I don't know if anyone else from that investigative team had experienced anything like this — I doubt that they ever had," he said.
"It's clear to me that many feel their efforts of trying their best was not enough. I would've hoped to have seen that we would've identified those additional crime scenes much, much earlier."
Campbell said there are many reasons to secure a crime scene as soon as possible. Besides informing families, he said it's also important to preserve evidence.
Other issues raised
During his testimony across Monday and Tuesday, Campbell agreed there were gaps that ideally should not have happened, which is one of the reasons he asked RCMP headquarters for an independent review into the force's actions across April 18 and 19, 2020.
He wrote a formal letter asking for this review, but Campbell said he got the sense Ottawa was wondering whether a review would be duplicating efforts of the Mass Casualty Commission.
Rob Pineo, a lawyer with Patterson Law representing most families, suggested it would have been helpful to interview Portapique resident Kate MacDonald, who was shot at by the gunman but wasn't injured — unlike her husband, Andrew, who was taken to hospital and survived.
Pineo said officers could have asked Kate MacDonald more about the possible back road out of Portapique, which is the way the commission suggested the gunman escaped before 11 p.m. AT on April 18, 2020.
"I agree, yes," Campbell said.
The gunman's replica RCMP cruiser that was used in the N.S. mass
shooting was created with a decommissioned 2017 Ford Taurus. (Mass
Casualty Commission)
He was also asked about why police did not comprehend the possibility that the gunman was driving an exact replica of a RCMP cruiser, despite witnesses describing it as having lights and stripes within the first hour of the massacre.
Campbell said what likely happened was human nature, and "bias" created through experience, since a replica car would be so unrealistic. In the future, he said it would be helpful for dispatchers, call takers and RCMP members to all share the exact quotes from witnesses when there is confusion, so details aren't filtered through various interpretations like a game of telephone.
Also, once the mock cruiser was confirmed, Campbell said Tuesday he would have liked for the public to have been notified about it sooner.
The inquiry has heard that despite photos of the gunman and his vehicle going to the strategic communications team shortly after 8 a.m. on April 19, 2020, it wasn't posted on Twitter until more than two hours later at 10:17 a.m
With files from Catharine Tunney
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/families-clean-crime-scenes-shooting-inquiry-1.6533397
Families cleaning crime scenes shouldn't have happened, Mountie tells mass shooting inquiry
Chief Supt. Darren Campbell says RCMP support to victims’ families didn’t meet minimum standards
A high-ranking Mountie in Nova Scotia at the time of the mass shooting more than two years ago says he doesn't think victims' families were properly supported — and that crime scenes should not have been handed over without being cleaned.
Chief Supt. Darren Campbell testified for two days this week before the Mass Casualty Commission leading the public inquiry into the killings on April 18-19, 2020, and also spoke with the commission through two interviews in June and July.
Campbell now works in New Brunswick, but was the support services officer — one of the highest-ranking RCMP positions in the province — at the time of the shootings.
He told the commission about how he'd met with many of the victims' families the summer following the tragedy, where a gunman shot and killed 22 people in several communities throughout the province while driving a replica RCMP car.
Many of their concerns included what they saw as an RCMP failure to disclose information, and issues with Const. Wayne (Skipper) Bent, the lone liaison officer assigned to deal with nearly all of the victim's families, Campbell said.
RCMP
Supt. Darren Campbell was the support services officer at the time of
the shootings, the third-highest ranking Mountie in Nova Scotia. (CBC)
"They were very emotional meetings," Campbell said in a commission interview.
"I've dealt with a lot of families and I will say … I have never attended meetings with people that affected me more, or were as difficult as that."
Some victims' families, including those of Heather O'Brien and Gina Goulet, said they were left to clean the scenes where the women had died.
Campbell said the O'Brien family told him there were bullet casings left in the vehicle, as well as what they called "body parts." According to Campbell, he asked both Bent and a forensics team member how that could have happened.
Usually, after the forensic team processes a car for evidence, Campbell said they might leave some stains or tissue behind — but then it's handed to an insurance company to clean or destroy.
"It's no different than an actual crime scene within a residence. You know, we don't normally allow the family to come back in and see an awful, messy scene," Campbell said.
"That would be traumatic."
Campbell apologized to family in person
But Campbell said Bent told him the O'Brien family wanted the car returned as quickly as possible, even in the state that it was. Bent testified to the commission last month that he wasn't going to argue with the O'Briens because it was their property, so the car was returned.
Campbell said he's dealt with similar situations when families ask to see loved ones after they've been killed. While he doesn't want to deny families, Campbell said he always tries to talk them out of it because how their loved one looks now is "not who they are."
He said the same logic applies to a crime scene in a home or car — it's "not good for people" to see that.
Heather O'Brien with daughters Katie Devine, front, Darcy Dobson, second
from right, and Molly O'Brien, far right. (Submitted by Darcy Dobson)
During his meeting with multiple members of the O'Brien family, which covered issues like the state of the car and how one of them had a gun pointed at them by an officer when approaching a crime scene, Campbell said he offered his condolences and told them "as a person, I'm sorry."
He also let them know what steps they could take to file a professional complaint if they wanted to do so, he said.
Campbell said he never issued a written apology and is unaware of any formal apology to the O'Briens from the RCMP.
On Tuesday, after his second day of testifying, Campbell broke down in tears and apologized to all of the families for "failing" them.
Senior Mountie expresses regret for how N.S. mass shooting was handled
In Goulet's case, the inquiry released a summary of a meeting between the commission and her daughter, Amelia Butler, and son-in-law, Dave Butler.
Amelia wasn't given an official next of kin notification, and the document said that, despite giving at least four different police officers their information, no one called the couple to let them know when Goulet's property was ready to be handed over.
Instead, Dave Butler put up "no trespassing" signs and went into the house himself, discovering "blood all over the door and other stuff he shouldn't have seen," the document said.
The Butlers made their own arrangements through insurance to have Goulet's house cleaned, but the police had not told them it was an option. At one point, the couple found a shell casing near the bathroom door and "chunk of lead" in Goulet's vanity.
Bent testified he felt "really bad" that the Butlers had that experience and arranged the cleaning before he reached out to them on April 21, two days after Goulet was killed.
A memorial on Highway 224 shows a photo of Gina Goulet, one of the
victims in Canada's deadliest mass shooting. (Pat Callaghan/CBC)
Amelia Butler told the commission she originally believed Bent was their personal liaison officer, and he never explained how he actually represented families related to 21 victims. Dave Butler said Bent "wasn't able to keep his stories straight" and often couldn't remember who he was talking with.
Campbell said in a commission interview he wasn't aware of what the Butlers went through, but what they describe "should never have happened."
He said usually Bent, or another member of the investigations team, would be the one to talk with each family about cleaning options through insurance.
When asked about whether the support offered by Bent was sufficient, Campbell said, given the scope of the mass shooting, the Mounties could likely never provide enough assistance, and there's "always more that we could do."
But when pressed on whether that assistance met the minimum level of care, Campbell said "no," based on feedback from families.
"If it was good there would be no complaints," he said.
Campbell said Tuesday he knows Bent worked very hard for months to help the families, and the strain has left a "lasting impact" on him.
In his testimony Monday, Campbell said he raised concerns to the major crimes team who assigned Bent as liaison that this would be a "heavy burden" for one person to carry.
RCMP
Const. Wayne Bent provides testimony related to support for family
members at the Mass Casualty Commission inquiry into the mass murders in
rural Nova Scotia on April 18/19, 2020, in Truro, N.S., on Tuesday,
June 21, 2022. (The Canadian Press/Andrew Vaughan)
But Campbell said while the team discussed it, they eventually told him Bent could handle it on his own.
In his own interview with the commission, Bent said he "was a little selfish" having worked hard to build relationships with people, and wanted the same message going to each family.
Bent had no specific training around being a family liaison officer, and on Tuesday Campbell said he'd like to see a specially trained national team that could respond to natural disasters, terrorist attacks, or mass shootings anywhere in the country.
Family members of one victim, Const. Heidi Stevenson, were the only ones who didn't deal with Bent. Stevenson's husband and children had one officer assigned to them, while her parents dealt with another RCMP member, Campbell said.
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Gina Goulet, final victim of N.S. shootings, 'nervous' gunman might come to her home
Warning: details in this story are disturbing
The final victim of Nova Scotia's mass shooting was worried she could be a target of the gunman being sought by police, a man who was a fellow denturist and who knew where she lived in Shubenacadie, N.S.
The Mass Casualty Commission conducting the public inquiry examining the killings presented its findings related to Gina Goulet's death at a hearing Wednesday in Halifax.
On the morning of April 19, 2020, Goulet and her daughter, Amelia Butler, had been texting back and forth, exchanging what they'd learned about the situation in the community of Portapique, N.S., where they heard people had been murdered the night before.
They shared the latest about the movements of the gunman, Gabriel Wortman, including an RCMP tweet that he was driving a replica police cruiser. Goulet, a denturist for 27 years who worked out of her home, knew Wortman, who ran a denture clinic in Dartmouth, N.S.
On the morning she was killed, Goulet told her daughter she was on edge knowing he was on the loose. Another denturist had reached out, suggesting she lock her doors, and Goulet asked her daughter to keep her phone close in case she needed to call.
She also urged her daughter to stay home and to "wait till they catch him" before going grocery shopping. Butler responded that it was hard to know where he could be headed.
"Haha as long as not here. I'm nervous. I hope they start blocking off roads!" Goulet texted at 10:49 a.m. "Like I said, he's a smart man, almost too smart."
That was the last text she sent. Goulet tried calling her daughter at 10:58 a.m., but when Butler picked up, the line disconnected. She later learned someone cancelled the call.
Twenty-two
people died on April 18 and 19. Top row from left: Gina Goulet, Dawn
Gulenchyn, Jolene Oliver, Frank Gulenchyn, Sean McLeod, Alanna Jenkins.
Second row: John Zahl, Lisa McCully, Joey Webber, Heidi Stevenson,
Heather O'Brien and Jamie Blair. Third row from top: Kristen Beaton,
Lillian Campbell, Joanne Thomas, Peter Bond, Tom Bagley and Greg Blair.
Bottom row: Emily Tuck, Joy Bond, Corrie Ellison and Aaron Tuck. (CBC)
Butler shared with the commission examining the circumstances of her mother's death, and those of 21 others during the 13-hour rampage, that she tried calling back 16 times with no luck in the hour that followed. She and her husband were detoured by a police roadblock en route to Goulet's home.
A commission report summarizing what happened said evidence shows the gunman was at Goulet's home for less than five minutes, during which time he shot her multiple times and injured her German shepherd, Ginger.
Evidence showed the gunman smashed a door, forced his way in and killed Goulet, who had fled into the bathroom attached to her room, Roger Burrill, senior counsel for the commission, said during a presentation Wednesday.
"The farthest corner of the residence," he said. "She was a cancer survivor, she lived and loved rural Nova Scotia."
The report states that initially the gunman drove past Goulet's home — which was set back from the road and surrounded by fields — before looping back, according to one neighbour who saw the SUV he was driving do a U-turn. He stole Goulet's grey Mazda 3 when he left.
Goulet
was a denturist who worked out of her home on Highway 224 in
Shubenacadie, N.S., less than two kilometres from the intersection where
Const. Heidi Stevenson and Joey Webber were killed. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)
About an hour after the phone call, the Butlers arrived to find the chain gates on Goulet's long driveway were unhooked.
David Butler, Goulet's son-in-law, made the harrowing discovery of her body. He later recounted to police that he told his wife, "We need help right now. There's nothing we can do, it's not good."
Amelia Butler had already called 911 after seeing blood on the deck and together they immediately sought help — flagging down Mounties stationed at police roadblocks farther north on Highway 224, close to where the gunman had just killed RCMP Const. Heidi Stevenson and Joey Webber.
Upon arriving at Goulet's home, police discovered a side door was forced open and there were blood-stained pieces of police uniforms discarded on Goulet's lawn: a grey shirt with an RCMP badge, a fluorescent traffic vest and a dark-coloured vest.
Webber's silver SUV, which the gunman had stolen, was parked behind the house. Investigators later determined it was out of sight from the road where members of the RCMP's tactical team had driven by — scanning driveways — after leaving the previous crime scene 1.8 kilometres away, the commission said. It's unclear if the gunman was still on the property when they passed.
Radio communications between officers sent at 11 a.m. show they were aware of the silver SUV after speaking to witnesses at the previous crime scene. Tim Mills, the tactical team's leader who passed Goulet's property, warned his colleagues: "If they see a silver SUV Tracker with a guy with a yellow jacket, you got to, you can't give him a second. You got to have a gun on him."
Burrill said the timing shows that the gunman either had just or was in the process of shedding the identifying clothing and switching vehicles.
The
gunman parked Joey Webber's stolen SUV behind Goulet's home. The public
inquiry found it wasn't visible to someone passing her driveway. (Mass Casualty Commission)
Inside Webber's vehicle was a Correctional Services Canada jacket and a pair of blue pants with a yellow stripe, similar to what RCMP wear. Though it's not clear exactly how the gunman obtained the items, earlier that Sunday morning he'd killed Sean MacLeod and Alanna Jenkins, who worked as managers in Nova Scotia prisons.
Paramedics ended up treating Goulet's daughter for shock. They had been to her mother's home and left after realizing there was no way of saving her.
That evening, after Butler was discharged from hospital, she started looking for information on where Goulet's dogs were, eventually learning from a neighbour police had taken Ginger to a clinic in Dartmouth.
Challenges getting information
She and her husband later told the commission it was an ongoing challenge to get details from police — from whether Goulet's home was still a crime scene, to where her body was, to details about what exactly happened to her.
"In the days that followed, no police officers ever reached out to Amelia and Dave to confirm that Gina had died," according to summary of a meeting the couple had with the commission. "No one approached them to confirm anything. It was obvious to Amelia and Dave that is what had happened, but no one confirmed it."
They told the commission they later discovered bullets in a closet and a drawer of the tiny bathroom where Goulet's body was found. They said it was frustrating that police had not done a better search of the home and made them lose faith in the RCMP.
Investigators found parts of the RCMP uniform the gunman had been wearing on Goulet's lawn. (Mass Casualty Commission)
The commission did not come to any conclusions about why the shooter targeted Goulet, but one fellow denturist did recall a past encounter between the gunman and Goulet that stood out to her.
Debbie MacDonald later told police investigators she had witnessed an "embarrassing" exchange at a denturist conference in Dartmouth in September 2019, where Goulet insulted Wortman.
"He said something and Gina said, um, 'Oh for f--k sake Gabe you don't know that' or something like that," said MacDonald. "My eyes went big and like I knew that she embarrassed him and he knew it and like because we made eye contact and she said, 'So what, it's f--king Gabe, what's he going to do?' and walked away."
Amelia Butler told police on April 21, 2020, she remembered hearing that the gunman had once asked if Goulet wanted to work with him but she never heard of her mother having any conflict with him.
Fellow denturists told RCMP investigators that Goulet likely taught the gunman when he was studying at the Nova Scotia Community College. She may have sold him equipment when he was opening his business in Dartmouth, and they were enrolled in the same training program in 2019, according to the commission's records.
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Nova Scotia vet saves dog belonging to friend who died in mass shooting
Two dogs were rescued and treated after being shot
Nova Scotia vet saves dog belonging to friend who died in mass shooting
A Nova Scotia veterinarian working to save a small dog belonging to a shooting victim only found out during the procedure that the late owner was her friend.
Dr. Jennifer McKay works at the Central Nova Animal Hospital in Truro, N.S., and lives a few minutes outside town in Lower Onslow.
She said she first knew "something big" was going on early Sunday morning since her husband and father are volunteer firefighters, and their station had been taken over by RCMP as a safe staging area.
Soon after, McKay got a call from RCMP Const. Rodney MacDonald. They had worked together on cases in the past.
He told her there was a dog in need of help, and that the dog belonged to three boys who had just lost their parents. They were sending in an emergency response team to get the dog, and he asked McKay to meet them at the animal hospital.
WATCH | Couple dies in Nova Scotia massacre, dog survives thanks to veterinarian:
There, McKay met Zoey, a 9-year-old miniature pinscher, who had suffered a gunshot wound to her hind end.
Although McKay's initial hope "wasn't great" for the dog's survival, she was pleasantly surprised to find Zoey in shock, but alive.
McKay and one technician brought Zoey into surgery right after giving her an IV line and some physical support, since the dog had suffered "such damage" from the gunshot.
In the middle of the procedure, McKay found out that Zoey was the family pet of friend Jamie Blair, who had been killed in a shooting along with her husband, Greg.
"It definitely took a moment," McKay said, adding her vet technician definitely had to help hold her together.
"It just brought so much more to the whole entire situation for all of us. It's pretty tough. But then you have to put yourself in a place where you know that you can do this one good thing for this family."
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nine-year-old miniature pinscher named Zoey is shown at the Central
Nova Animal Hospital in Truro, N.S., in this recent handout photo. (Central Nova Animal Hospital/The Canadian Press)
The Blairs are two of the victims of a mass shooting that left at least 20 people dead across Nova Scotia.
All were killed during a 12-hour rampage that began late Saturday in the small community of Portapique, N.S., with the gunman then moving through other communities in the area.
McKay said she and her team knew they were going to do "everything within our power to keep this dog alive for those boys."
The veterinarian said she and Jamie had met at the local rink, where McKay was "lucky enough" to sit alongside her on the bench to watch their sons play on the same hockey team.
Jamie was "amazing," McKay said, someone who was a great mom and very supportive of the hockey community.
"We're going to all miss her dearly, for sure," McKay said.
Zoey doing 'quite well'
She called the Blairs' oldest son on Sunday to give him an update on Zoey. McKay has also sent along pictures and videos of Zoey doing well after the operation.
Zoey is doing "quite well," even starting to walk and eat already, McKay said.
Reflecting on the whole situation, McKay said she's happy the story is offering some comfort in such a tragic time, and healing Zoey is at least one way she could help the Blair family.
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"It's small, but it's become important. And I'm just really glad that the outcome was what it was, because it's nice to be able to do something for them," she said.
McKay also said they've been overwhelmed with calls from people looking to make a donation toward Zoey's vet bill. While they appreciate the offers, the bill is being covered by the Central Nova Animal Hospital.
A GoFundMe has been set up for the Blairs' sons, and McKay urged people looking to help to send any money that way.
Other dog injured
Goulet, a 54-year-old from Shubenacadie, N.S., loved her German shepherd, Ginger, and Ellie, a 10-year-old chihuahua.
We were able to pick her up late afternoon today and bring her home for family snuggle this evening. On track for a full recovery. You'll also see our ruler of the homestead, Buzz, a 14 year old Boston Terrier and Ellie, Gina's 10 year old Chihuahua.
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Ginger was shot twice
Sunday, Butler wrote, but the RCMP "took extra care" and sent her to
the Metro Animal Emergency Clinic in Dartmouth.
The veterinarians there helped treat two gunshot wounds — one in her face and one directly through her mid-back.
Butler said the vet completed all procedures free of charge "and
provided the best care imaginable. Which we are extremely grateful for."
They picked Ginger up on Monday, and were able to bring her home for a family snuggle that evening.
"On track for a full recovery," he wrote.
If you are seeking mental health support during this time, here are resources available to Nova Scotians.
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N.S. shooting victim Joey Webber showed 'best and kindest' of humanity by stopping to help
Warning: details in this story are disturbing
They wouldn't find out until that evening that Webber had been killed after randomly crossing paths with the gunman in Shubenacadie, N.S., according to new details released this week by the commission leading the public inquiry into the April 2020 shooting rampage.
"Joey did what he thought was right — he stopped to help people he thought were in trouble," Rob Pineo, a lawyer whose firm is representing many of the victims' families, including Webber's, wrote in a Facebook post on Monday. "That kindness cost him his life as the monster who killed so many others also killed him."
The new documents detail what the Mass Casualty Commission believes happened to Webber the day he was killed by the gunman, who over 13 hours murdered 22 people, including a pregnant woman, and was driving a mock RCMP cruiser.
Webber, who was one of the gunman's last victims, was "a country boy who worked hard, was an amazing horseman, and, above all, loved his family," Pineo wrote. He said Webber was known in his community as a guy who would give anybody a hand when they needed one.
"Joey died a hero. His family can take that into their hearts to try to [soothe] the pain of his loss," Pineo said.
Joey
Webber is shown in a handout photo from a GoFundMe page raising money
for his widow and daughters. Webber was among the victims of the mass
killings in Nova Scotia in April 2020. (GoFundMe/The Canadian Press)
The morning of April 19, 2020, Webber, 36, was talking over the events from the night before in the community of Portapique, N.S., with his partner, Shanda MacLeod, at their home in Wyses Corner, N.S. MacLeod told him there was some "crazy person" there shooting people and burning homes.
"That kind of stuff doesn't happen here," MacLeod recalled Webber saying.
The couple did not know about the gunman's mock cruiser. They went about their morning as usual, since "we didn't know that we were in danger or anything," MacLeod said in a later police interview.
After kissing his partner and children, Webber drove out to get furnace oil in MacLeod's mother's silver 2008 Ford Escape around 10 a.m., and arrived at the Esso gas stop in Milford, N.S., at 10:37 a.m.
RCMP sent a tweet at 10:17 a.m., alerting the public for the first time the gunman was driving a replica cruiser.
Webber tries to help at collision scene
On his way home, Webber made his way through Shubenacadie, and took the interchange where he came upon a crash between Const. Heidi Stevenson and the gunman.
He stopped and got out of his SUV, acting as a "Good Samaritan," according to witness Elizabeth Small, who had been driving by with her husband and stopped when they saw the cruisers collide.
"In an act that is consistent with only the best and kindest attributes of humanity, Joey Webber observed the accident, pulled over his vehicle and got out of his car," commission counsel Anna Mancini said Monday as she presented the documents about Shubenacadie.
"One witness indicated that it looked as though Joey was running to help."
Stevenson was killed during a gunfight with the killer, managing to get off 14 shots and likely injuring him.
Small and other witnesses reported seeing the gunman direct Webber into the back seat of his mock cruiser, where he fatally shot him. The gunman then moved all his guns to Webber's SUV, and took gas cans out of his mock cruiser before setting it on fire.
"He got in, he looked over at us and drove off like nothing happened," Small said in a police interview.
While the gunman was still at the interchange, multiple people continued up the ramp past the cruisers — but no one followed Webber's lead and actually stopped. At 10:55 a.m. the gunman left the area in the silver SUV and headed south on the western prong of Highway 224.
Around 11 a.m. MacLeod was scrolling through social media when she saw that the gunman had been seen in Shubenacadie and killed two people.
"It was like something punched me in the gut," MacLeod said. She tried calling Webber but it went right to voicemail.
Around noon, MacLeod called Webber's sister Laura Webber and told her Joey Webber hadn't come home yet from his errand, which was unusual because he never made stops without letting MacLeod know first.
Webber's sister, father look for him
Laura Webber told her it was likely he had just gotten caught in traffic and his phone died, since by then police had blocked off the area around the Shubenacadie intersection.
But soon after, the sister began looking for him. She retraced his path from the Milford gas station up through Highway 224, and came by an RCMP officer who had blocked off the bridge into Shubenacadie.
She told the officer her brother was missing, and the make and model of his vehicle. The Mountie checked on his radio, and told her there was a silver SUV involved in the shooting but he wasn't sure about the specific model.
Laura Webber left her name and number with the Bible Hill RCMP detachment and called her father, Tom Webber. He drove to Shubenacadie and stopped at a pizza place near the collision scene to try and find out information, but didn't learn much .
As family members were driving around looking for Webber, MacLeod said she waited at home with their kids and "must have called his phone a hundred times."
Webber's partner questions lack of alert
MacLeod echoed the concerns of many of the victims' families who have wondered why RCMP never sent out an emergency alert that would have warned the public about the gunman.
"It bothers me that there wasn't an alert sent out because, so many lives could have been saved," MacLeod said. "It is just one of those things, what if, what if."
Sgt. Bill Raaymakers eventually called Tom Webber to tell him he was "pretty sure that it was Joey" who had been killed by the gunman, Laura Webber said in an interview with police.
Documents from the inquiry show Raaymakers and another officer met with both the sister and MacLeod at 7:55 p.m. that Sunday night, and told them it was "believed but not yet confirmed" that Webber was dead.
The inquiry will return on Wednesday when documents about the death of the final victim, Gina Goulet, and the events at the Enfield gas station where the gunman was killed by police, will be presented.
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The Mass Casualty Proceedings continued today from Truro, with
testimony from Staff Sgt. Al Carroll, who was the District Commander
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Birgitta Jonsdottir <birgitta@this.is>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 09:11:44 -0800
Subject: e-mail overload Re: Fwd: After reading the news this weekend
about Nova Scotia LIEbranos I did the lawyers Tilly Pillay and Adam
Rodgers a favour told their assistants I would be publishing these
emails etc
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Thank you for writing to me. I get so many emails that it is
impossible for me to even read them all. If you have an urgent matter
to discuss. Please put Priority in the subject. Please refrain from
sending email to multitude of email addresses you might have for me.
Only send one email with priority in the subject. It means I will read
it and will do my very best to reply asap :)
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 12:57:43 -0400
Subject: After reading the news this weekend about Nova Scotia
LIEbranos I did the lawyers Tilly Pillay and Adam Rodgers a favour
told their assistants I would be publishing these emails etc
To: "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin"
<kris.austin@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Mitton, Megan
(LEG)" <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
<Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin" <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>,
"Furey, John" <jfurey@nbpower.com>, wharrison <wharrison@nbpower.com>,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "terry.seguin" <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>,
"Alex.Johnston" <Alex.Johnston@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre"
<darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca,
"Pierre.Paul-Hus.a1" <Pierre.Paul-Hus.a1@parl.gc.ca
"pierre.poilievre.a1" <pierre.poilievre.a1@parl.gc.
pierre.paul-hus@parl.gc.ca,
ps.publicsafetymcu-
<ralph.goodale@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
"Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
"clare.barry" <clare.barry@justice.gc.ca>, "david.hansen"
<david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
"Dale.Morgan" <Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "david.eidt"
<david.eidt@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, lorri.warner@justice.gc.ca, "jan.jensen"
<jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, "Nathalie.Drouin"
<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
<bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "andrew.baumberg"
<andrew.baumberg@fct-cf.gc.ca>
<Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca
"marc.giroux" <marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"
<Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Liliana.Longo"
<Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
<washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Boston.Mail" <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>,
english@rcinet.ca, "kennedy.stewart" <kennedy.stewart@parl.gc.ca>,
pvanloan@airdberlis.com, nicola.diiorio@bcf.ca, "Nicola.DiIorio"
<Nicola.DiIorio@parl.gc.ca>, "Catherine.Tait" <Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca>,
"sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.
<Sophia.Harris@cbc.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier
<premier@ontario.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, Office of the
Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, "David.Raymond.Amos"
<David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com>
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>,
"len.hoyt" <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>, "david.young"
<david.young@mcinnescooper.com
<macpherson.don@dailygleaner.
<David.Akin@globalnews.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
news919 <news919@rogers.com>, sfine <sfine@globeandmail.com>, news
<news@hilltimes.com>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>, newstips
<newstips@cnn.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, tpillay@nsbs.org,
Adam@boudrotrodgers.com, "lyle.howe" <lyle.howe@eastlink.ca>,
jason@boudrotrodgers.com
Monday, 5 November 2018
After reading the news this weekend about Nova Scotia LIEbranos I did
the lawyers Tilly Pillay and Adam Rodgers a favour told their
assistants I would be publishing these emails etc
Tilly Pillay is not in her office this week and things went as far as
they always do whenever I call or email her very questionable Law
Society Here hoping Adam Rodgers finally acts with some semblance of
Integrity. However after all this time I am not betting on it.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:22:05 -0400
Subject: Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 Did you order Harper and
the NDP to ignore me as well???
To: Liberal / Assistance <nbd_cna@liberal.ca>, cmunroe@glgmlaw.com, pm
<pm@pm.gc.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1" <justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>
<mcu@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
How about Dizzy Lizzy May and the Bloc?
On 1/6/16, Cmunroe (Liberal / Assistance) <nbd_cna@liberal.ca> wrote:
> RealChange.ca | DuVraiChangement.ca
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Cmunroe, Jan 6, 14:28
>
> Hello all,
>
> I would ask that you please do not respond to this e-mail (in the event that
> you were inclined to do so.)
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig Munroe
> (Party Legal and Constitutional Advisor)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:09 AM
> To: Craig Munroe <cmunroe@glgmlaw.com>; nbd_cna@liberal.ca; pm
> <pm@pm.gc.ca>; ljulien@liberal.ca; pmilliken <pmilliken@cswan.com>; bdysart
> <bdysart@smss.com>; bdysart <bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>;
> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca; robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.
> jda@nf.aibn.com; eclark@coxandpalmer.com; office@liberal.ns.ca;
> president@lpco.ca; david@lpcm.ca; emerchant@merchantlaw.com
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Fortin <info@ndp.ca>; stephen.harper <stephen.harper.a1@parl.gc.ca>
> Subject: Re: Attn Dr. John Gillis Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 Trust
> that I called and tried to reason with a lot of Liberals begore I am before
> the court again on Monday Jan 11th
>
> On 1/6/16, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> BTW the nice guys who talked to me and didn't dismiss me I put in the
>> BCC line
>>
>> Dr. John Gillis
>> P.O. Box 723
>> 5151 George Street, Suite 1400
>> Halifax, Nova Scotia
>> Canada B3J 2T3
>> Tel: (902) 429-1993
>> Email: office@liberal.ns.ca
>>
>> John Allan, President
>> Liberal Party of Newfoundland & Labrador
>> T: (709) 685-1230
>> jda@nf.aibn.com
>>
>>
>> Braeden Caley
>> Office of the Mayor, City of Vancouver
>> 604-809-9951
>> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca,
>>
>>
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>> Suite 600, Frederick Square
>> 77 Westmorland Street
>> P.O. Box 730
>> Fredericton, NB, Canada
>> E3B 5B4
>>
>> P 506.443.0153
>> F 506.443.9948
>>
>>
>> Evatt F. A. Merchant
>> Merchant Law Group LLP
>> First Nations Bank Bldg.
>> 501-224 4th Ave. S.
>> Saskatoon, Saskatchewan S7K 5M5
>> Phone: 306-653-7777
>> Email: emerchant@merchantlaw.com
>>
>>
>> Ewan W. Clark
>> Montague
>> Phone: (902) 838-5275
>> Fax: (902) 838-3440
>> eclark@coxandpalmer.com
>>
>> Robert M. Schuett
>> #200, 602 11th Avenue SW
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>> Phone: (403) 705-1261
>> Fax: (403) 705-1265
>> robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.
>>
>>
>> http://www.liberal.ca/
>>
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>>
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>> Anna Gainey
>>
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>>
>> T @annamgainey
>> Leader Justin Trudeau
>> National President Anna Gainey
>> Acting National Director Christina Topp
>> National Vice-President (English) Chris MacInnes
>> National Vice-President (French) Marie Tremblay
>> National Policy Chair Maryanne Kampouris
>> National Membership Secretary Leanne Bourassa
>> Past National President Mike Crawley
>> President, Liberal Party of Newfoundland & Labrador John Allan
>> President, Liberal Party of Prince Edward Island Ewan Clark
>> President, Nova Scotia Liberal Party John Gillis
>> President, New Brunswick Liberal Association Britt Dysart
>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Québec) Linda Julien
>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario) Tyler Banham
>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Manitoba) Sachit Mehra
>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Saskatchewan) Evatt Merchant
>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Alberta) Robbie Schuett
>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (British Columbia) Braeden
>> Caley
>> President, Federal Liberal Association of Yukon Blake Rogers
>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Northwest Territories) Rosanna
>> Nicol
>> President, Federal Liberal Association of Nunavut Michel Potvin
>> Caucus Representative Francis Scarpaleggia
>> Co-Chair, Aboriginal Peoples’ Commission (Female) Caitlin Tolley
>> Co-Chair, Aboriginal Peoples’ Commission (Male) Kevin Seesequasis
>> President, National Women’s Liberal Commission Carlene Variyan
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>> Co-Chair, Senior Liberals’ Commission (English) Kenneth D. Halliday
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>>
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>> Phone: (604) 891-1176
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:32:00 -0400
>> Subject: Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 the CBC, the RCMP, their
>> new boss Justin Trudeau and his Ministers of Justice and Defence etc
>> cannot deny their knowledge of Paragraphs 81, 82, 83, 84, and 85 now
>> CORRECT G$?
>> To: Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca, "carolyn.bennett"
>> <carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>, Doug@dougeyolfson.ca,
>> doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca, fpcity@freepress.mb.ca,
>> w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, "Paul.Lynch" <Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>
>> "Marianne.Ryan" <Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>> <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca,
>> "john.green" <john.green@gnb.ca>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> <gopublic@cbc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, radical
>> <radical@radicalpress.com>, newsonline <newsonline@bbc.co.uk>,
>> newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>,
>> andre <andre@jafaust.com>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>> html
>>
>> David Raymond Amos Versus The Crown T-1557-15
>>
>> 81. The Plaintiff states that matters of harassment that the police
>> refuse to investigate would have entered the realm of ridiculous in
>> 2012 if the reasons behind the suicides of teenagers did not become
>> well known by the corporate media. In the summer of 2012 a new member
>> of the FPS who as a former member of the EPS had inspired a lawsuit
>> for beating a client in Edmonton called the Plaintiff and accused him
>> of something he could not do even if he wanted to while he was arguing
>> many lawyers byway of emails about a matter concerning cyber stalking
>> that was before the SCC. The member of the FPF accused the Plaintiff
>> of calling the boss of Bullying Canada thirty times. At that time his
>> MagicJack account had been hacked and although he could receive
>> incoming calls, the Plaintiff could not call out to anyone. The
>> Plaintiff freely sent the FPF his telephone logs sourced from
>> MagicJack after his account restored without the Crown having to issue
>> a warrant to see his telephone records. He asked the FPF and the RCMP
>> where did the records of his phone calls to and from the FPF and the
>> RCMP go if his account had not been hacked. The police never
>> responded. Years later a Troll sent Dean Roger Ray a message through
>> YouTube providing info about the Plaintiff’s MagicJack account with
>> the correct password. Dean Roger Ray promptly posted two videos in
>> YouTube clearly displaying the blatant violation of privacy likely to
>> protect himself from the crime. The Plaintiff quickly pointed out the
>> videos to the RCMP and they refused to investigate as usual. At about
>> the same point in time the Plaintiff noticed that the CBC had
>> published a record of a access to information requests. On the list of
>> requests he saw his name along with several employees of CBC and the
>> boss of Bullying Canada. The Plaintiff called the CBC to make
>> inquiries about what he saw published on the Internet. CBC told him it
>> was none of his business and advised him if he thought his rights had
>> been offended to file a complaint. It appears the Plaintiff that
>> employees of CBC like other questionable Crown Corporations such as
>> the RCMP rely on their attorneys far too much to defend them from
>> litigation they invite from citizens they purportedly serve. The
>> employees of CBC named within the aforementioned and the CBC Legal
>> Dept. are very familiar with the Plaintiff and of the Crown barring
>> him from legislative properties while he running for public office.
>>
>> 82. The Plaintiff states that any politician or police officer should
>> have seen enough of Barry Winter’s WordPress blog by June 22, 2015
>> particularly after the very unnecessary demise of two men in Alberta
>> because of the incompetence of the EPS. Barry Winters was blogging
>> about the EPS using battering ram in order to execute a warrant for a
>> 250 dollar bylaw offence at the same time Professor Kris Wells
>> revealed in a televised interview that the EPS member who was killed
>> was the one investigating the cyber harassment of him. It was obvious
>> why the police and politicians ignored all the death threats, sexual
>> harassment, cyberbullying and hate speech of a proud Zionist who
>> claimed to be a former CF officer who now working for the Department
>> of National Defence (DND). It is well known that no politician in
>> Canada is allowed to sit in Parliament as a member of the major
>> parties unless they support Israel. Since 2002 the Plaintiff made it
>> well known that he does not support Israeli actions and was against
>> the American plan to make war on Iraq. On Aril 1, 2003 within two
>> weeks of the beginning of the War on Iraq, the US Secret Service
>> threatened to practice extraordinary rendition because false
>> allegations of a Presidential threat were made against him by an
>> American court. However, the Americans and the Crown cannot deny that
>> what he said in two courts on April 1, 2003 because he published the
>> recordings of what was truly said as soon as he got the court tapes.
>> The RCMP knows those words can still be heard on the Internet today.
>> In 2009, the Plaintiff began to complain of Barry Winters about
>> something far more important to Canada as nation because of Winters’
>> bragging of being one of 24 CF officers who assisted the Americans in
>> the planning the War on Iraq in 2002. In the Plaintiff’s humble
>> opinion the mandate of the DND is Defence not Attack. He is not so
>> naive to think that such plans of war do not occur but if Barry
>> Winters was in fact one of the CF officers who did so then he broke
>> his oath to the Crown the instant he bragged of it in his blog. If
>> Winters was never an officer in the CF then he broke the law by
>> impersonating an officer. The Plaintiff downloaded the emails of the
>> Privy Council about Wikileaks. The bragging of Barry Winters should
>> have been investigated in 2009 before CBC reported that documents
>> released by WikiLeaks supported his information about Canadian
>> involvement in the War on Iraq.
>>
>> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
>> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
>> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
>> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
>> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
>> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
>> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
>> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
>> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>>
>> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
>> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
>> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
>> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
>> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
>> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
>> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
>> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
>> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
>> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
>> are not.
>>
>> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
>> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
>> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
>> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
>> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
>> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
>> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
>> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
>> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>>
>> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
>> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
>> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
>> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
>> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
>> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
>> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
>> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
>> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>>
>> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
>> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
>> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
>> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
>> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
>> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
>> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
>> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>>
>> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
>> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
>> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>>
>> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>>
>> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
>> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
>> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
>> alive
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
>> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
>> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
>> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
>> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
>> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
>> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.
>> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
>> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
>> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
>> <smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com
>> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.
>> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
>> <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
>> <whistleblower@ctv.ca>
>>
>> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
>> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
>> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
>> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
>> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
>> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
>> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
>> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
>> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
>> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
>> interesting though
>>
>> http://www.
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/
>> launch.html
>>
>> Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
>> this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
>> Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
>> Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
>>
>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/
>>
>> The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
>> shy political animal
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>> 902 800 0369
>>
>> Enjoy Mr Weston
>> http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/
>> ikileaks.html
>>
>> "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
>> brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
>> says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
>> to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
>> including a Canadian general.
>>
>> That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
>> who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
>> U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
>> also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
>> prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
>>
>> http://baconfat53.blogspot.
>>
>> "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
>> being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
>> demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
>> "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
>> into the US policy.
>>
>> At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
>> colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
>> in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
>> report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
>> never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
>> were deployed WMD.
>>
>> Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
>> invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
>> concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
>> (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
>> about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
>> that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
>> authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
>>
>> There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
>> its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
>> to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
>> folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
>> upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
>> are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
>> Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
>> correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
>> George W Bush administration was onerous
>>
>> American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
>> military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
>> naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
>> in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
>> thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
>> operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
>> lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
>> ....not necessarily in that order. "
>>
>> You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
>> Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
>>
>> http://www.socom.mil/
>>
>>
>> 84. The Plaintiff states that the RCMP is well aware that he went to
>> western Canada in 2104 at the invitation of a fellow Maritimer in
>> order to assist in his attempt to investigate the murders of many
>> people in Northern BC. The Plaintiff has good reasons to doubt his
>> fellow Maritimer’s motives. The fact that he did not tell the
>> Plaintiff until he had arrived in BC that he had invited a Neo Nazi he
>> knew the Plaintiff strongly disliked to the same protest that he was
>> staging in front of the court house in Prince George on August 21,
>> 2014. The Plaintiff was looking forward to meeting Lonnie Landrud so
>> he ignored the Neo Nazi. Several months after their one and only
>> meeting, Lonnie Landrud contacted the Plaintiff and asked him to
>> publish a statement of his on the Internet and to forward it to anyone
>> he wished. The Plaintiff obliged Landrud and did an investigation of
>> his own as well. He has informed the RCMP of his opinion of their
>> actions and has done nothing further except monitor the criminal
>> proceedings the Crown has placed against the Neo Nazi in BC and save
>> his videos and webpages and that of his associates. The words the
>> Plaintiff stated in public in Prince George BC on August 21, 2014 were
>> recorded by the Neo Nazi and published on the Internet and the RCMP
>> knows the Plaintiff stands by every word. For the public record the
>> Plaintiff truly believes what Lonnie Landrud told him despite the fact
>> that he does not trust his Neo Nazi associates. Therefore the
>> Plaintiff had no ethical dilemma whatsoever in publishing the
>> statement Lonnie Landrud mailed to him in a sincere effort to assist
>> Lonnie Landrud’s pursuit of justice. The Crown is well aware that
>> Plaintiff’s former lawyer, Barry Bachrach once had a leader of the
>> American Indian Movement for a client and that is why he ran against
>> the former Minister of Indian Affairs for his seat in the 39th
>> Parliament.
>>
>> 85. The Plaintiff states that while he was out west he visited
>> Edmonton AB several times and met many people. He visited the home of
>> Barry Winters and all his favourite haunts in the hope of meeting in
>> person the evil person who had been sexually harassing and threatening
>> to kill him and his children for many years. The Crown cannot deny
>> that Winters invited him many times. On June 13, 2015 Barry Winters
>> admitted the EPS warned him the Plaintiff was looking for him.
>>
>> On 12/21/15, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Rabson, Mia" <Mia.Rabson@freepress.mb.ca>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:45:36 +0000
>>> Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Wab Kinew
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> I will be out of the office until Monday, January 4.
>>> If you need immediate assistance please contact our city desk at 613
>>> 697 7292 or fpcity@freepress.mb.ca.
>>> Happy Holidays!
>>>
>>> Mia Rabson
>>> Parliamentary Bureau Chief
>>> Winnipeg Free Press
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Sarra R. Deane" <s.deane@uwinnipeg.ca>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:10:12 +0000
>>> Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Wab Kinew
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> I will be out of the office until Thursday, Nov. 12th. I will
>>> respond to emails upon my return. Miigwech and all the best.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:45:29 -0400
>>> Subject: Fwd: Attn Wab Kinew
>>> To: mia.rabson@freepress.mb.ca, Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca,
>>> "carolyn.bennett" <carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>, Doug@dougeyolfson.ca,
>>> doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> http://www.winnipegfreepress.
>>>
>>> Peacemaker
>>> Group pushes for Truth and Reconciliation chairman to get Nobel Prize
>>>
>>> By: Mia Rabson
>>> Posted: 12/19/2015 3:00 AM | Last Modified: 12/19/2015 6:12 AM
>>>
>>> " Murray Sinclair already has an impressive resumé.
>>>
>>> He's the first aboriginal judge appointed to the bench in Manitoba,
>>> co-commissioner of the Aboriginal Justice Inquiry and chairman of the
>>> Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
>>>
>>> But if a group of Canadians has its way, he will get one of the
>>> highest honours in the world to add to the list: Nobel Peace Prize
>>> recipient.
>>>
>>> "He and Phil Fontaine should share a Nobel Peace Prize," said Wab
>>> Kinew, associate vice-president for indigenous relations at the
>>> University of Winnipeg.
>>>
>>> Kinew said a group of people in Winnipeg, Toronto and Ottawa are
>>> collaborating to nominate the two men, who they believe are jointly
>>> responsible for giving back hope to Canada's indigenous people that
>>> hasn't existed in a long time.
>>>
>>> "They made it into something that is peace-building and
>>> nation-building," Kinew said. "It has really transformed our country."
>>>
>>> Mia Rabson, Ottawa Bureau Chief
>>> 613-369–4824
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> Samyn, Editor
>>> 204–697–7295
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:05:01 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn Wab Kinew
>>> To: w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, "Paul.Lynch"
>>> <Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>
>>> <Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> https://baconfatreport.
>>> -to-know-anything-about-
>>>
>>> http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/about/
>>> Vice-President, Indigenous Affairs
>>>
>>> Wab Kinew
>>> phone: 204.789.9931
>>> email: w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca
>>> Biography/Publications
>>>
>>> Executive Assistant
>>>
>>> Sarra Deane
>>> phone: 204.988.7121
>>> email: s.deane@uwinnipeg.ca
>>>
>>
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