Thursday 17 December 2020

Higgs government blunts opposition abortion motion, removes references to Clinic 554

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Marguerite Deschamps 
The juice is not worth the squeeze.
 
 
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: What does that even mean in this context?
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps  
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Wrong topic!
 
 
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: You posted in the wrong topic?
 
 
David R. Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks Jos agrees you can always tell a Heinz pickle by its crunch N'esy Pas?
 
 :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James Edward
no more Cardy? hmmm I guess he is still in the dog house.
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @James Edward: he’s nipping at the premier’s heels. It’s all about power after all.
 
 
David R. Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison Yup That and butter tarts
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marc Martin
I heard government is under pressure to put Fredericton back to Orange.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Marc Martin: 3 new cases today in Edmundston, 2 in Moncton and 1 in Saint John. None in Fredericton.
 
 
Winston Gray
Reply to @Marc Martin: I heard you were under pressure to make baseless accusations.
 
 
Ray Bungay
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: The ond Saint John according to Brunswick News is an employee at Shannex Parkland.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Billy Bully: Says the guy that 99.9% comments are irrelevant or false...
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Winston Gray: Triggered ?
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Billy Buckner: My sources and pots are way bang on then yours by a mile.
 
 
Lisa Duguay McCarthy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: thanks I missed the first part but Looks like I did not miss much
 
 
Billy Buckner
Reply to @Marc Martin: sorry Marc, we use the metric system here, but you keep trying.
 
 
Billy Buckner
Reply to @Marc Martin: you have once again put me in my place with that always witty "Yawnnnn" retort.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Billy Buckner: Another weak reply...yawnnnnnnnnnnnn.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Lisa Duguay McCarthy: Oh, heck, I don't listen to them blathering on. I just read the highlight as CBC posts them. I'm working on another project right now, and when I get bored of that I check back in.
 
 
Lisa Duguay McCarthy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I normally don,t either but I am in zone 4 so I was curious to see what was happening there I do not live in Edmunston I live about an hour from there but it is still zone 4
 
 
Lou Bell
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David R. Amos
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---------- Original message ----------
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 03:58:34 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: WOW The instant I hinted I am Pro Life
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 03:59:46 +0000
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Higgs government blunts opposition abortion motion, removes references to Clinic 554

Motion would have allowed funding of abortions at Fredericton clinic

 

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Dec 17, 2020 6:51 PM AT

 


The motion was designed to allow Clinic 554 to charge medicare for abortion procedures. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

The Progressive Conservative government has used its majority in the legislature to neutralize an opposition motion calling for the funding of surgical abortions at Fredericton's Clinic 554.

MLAs voted Thursday to take out references to the clinic and instead ask the province's two health authorities to look at whether existing abortion access complies with the Canada Health Act.

The original motion, which would not have been binding, called for the funding of abortions at the clinic and for the repeal of Reguation 84-20, which prevents Medicare from covering the procedure outside a hospital.

Caraquet Liberal MLA Isabelle Thériault introduced the motion and pleaded with the nine women sitting as PC MLAs to support it.

"Women, sisters, we need you now," she said. "Silence is not an option. History will not be kind to those who turn their backs on the rights of women. Actually we could make history today."

She added: "I hope that the women here who have gone into politics did it to advance the cause of women. Otherwise, what are we doing here?"

Liberal MLA Isabelle Theriault introduced a motion to remove the regulation that disallows funding of abortions outside a provincial hospital. (Twitter.com)

During the summer election campaign, Fredericton North PC candidate Jill Green, now the minister of transportation and infrastructure, promised to "fight to keep those services available for our community" and to "protect the people who use that clinic."

But she didn't commit to securing Medicare funding for abortions at the clinic, and Green supported her party and government in gutting the Liberal motion.

"I argue that the issue at stake is about access to abortion, not Clinic 554," she said.

Green said she supports a women's right to choose and questions why abortion is offered in two hospitals in Moncton but not at the one in Fredericton.

But she said the Liberal motion was about "providing support to an individual business with a group of lobbyists trying to influence decision related to public health."

She also said while she had "open and honest discussions" with voters about the issue during the campaign, she was also attacked by online "keyboard warriors" from outside the province.


Transportation and Infrastructure Minister Jill Green, the MLA for Fredericton North, supported her government's amendments. During the election campaign, she had promised to 'protect the people who use that clinic.' (CBC News/Jacques Poitras)

Green promised to work for adequate access provincewide but said she would "not advocate for an individual clinic to be funded." 

Instead the PCs voted for an amendment calling on the government to "to task the regional health authorities with determining if abortion services in New Brunswick follow the Canada Health Act." 

"If they feel the access does not meet the requirements of the Canada Health Act, they must determine how to meet that requirement while keeping within the principles of the Medical Services Payment Act," said Health Minister Dorothy Shephard.

Horizon Health has already taken a stand on the issue, passing a resolution earlier this year asking the province to fund abortions outside hospitals.

Two hospitals in Moncton and one in Bathurst provide surgical abortions that are funded by Medicare, and the province says that is enough to meet demand given the limited financial means of the government.

The Liberals tried to amend the PC amendment to restore the original intent of the motion, but that was defeated 27-20.


Health Minister Dorothy Shephard said it's up to the province's two health authorities to determine if abortion access meets the requirements of the Canada Health Act. (Government of New Brunswick)

Thériault said it was absurd to still have to debate access to abortion in the present day.

"How can this still be possible? It makes no sense. Sometimes when I enter this assembly I think I'm entering the Twilight Zone. I'm coming here in 2020 to debate a motion on reproductive health. It blows my mind."

Shephard said the 2017 decision to cover the abortion pill Mifegymiso had led to a 30 per cent reduction in surgical abortions in hospitals. 

She said the share of all abortions done using the pill went from 40 per cent in the first year it was available to 58 per cent in the second year.

But Thériault said there was no way to accurately measure how many women wanted or needed an abortion and were unable to get one.

"This is not an accounting exercise. We have to take into account the human factors. This is not a spreadsheet column. These are people. These are women." 

Feds say N.B. violating Health Act

Clinic 554 charges patients between $750 and $800 for abortions. Medicare does not cover because Regulation 84-20 in the province's Medical Services Payment Act excludes abortions done outside hospitals from funding.

The federal government says that violates the Canada Health Act, which requires provinces to cover all medical procedures inside or outside of hospitals, and says they must not "impede … reasonable access" to services.

Higgs said during the election campaign the province was complying by providing access in three locations and that if supporters of Clinic 554 disagreed, they should go to court.

In October the Canadian Civil Liberties Association filed notice that it will do that. 

Clinic 554 also provides other services including to LGBTQ people, patients with HIV, those with mental health issues and survivors of sexual assault. Those services are covered by Medicare.

The clinic was put up for sale in October 2019.


Dr. Adrian Edgar put Clinic 554 up for sale in October of last year. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

In September, Dr. Adrian Edgar, who runs the family practice, said it was no longer viable to "siphon" money paid by Medicare for other services to subsidize the cost of abortions for patients who couldn't afford them.

He said at the time another doctor was interested in taking it over, running it as a sexual health centre and continuing to provide abortions.

No one at the clinic could be reached Thursday for an update on its status. 

About the Author

Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 

 

 

 
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Brian Robertson
When it acceptable for private clinics to provide medical services to New Brunswickers at taxpayer expense, then you can make the case for this.
To single out abortion as some exception to the rule is unacceptable.
 
 
 
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Brian Robertson: I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dan Short
All the posters attacking religion and God is hilarious, I guess they forgot the charter they rave about over abortion also protects religion.

Hypocrisy at its finest is on display here.
 
 
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Dan Short: The Charter affirms that one does not have to be religious to be pro life
 
 
Dan Short
Reply to @David R. Amos:
That's not true.

With the charter you can argue pro choice on its own merits and protections.
However there is no specific protection for pro life and other clauses must be used to defend such a position.
 
 
David R. Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Dan Short: Free Speech is a right alright
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Corrie Weatherfield
I thought M. Trudeau threatened to cut some health care funding because of this issue . . . ? ?
 
 
David R. Amos
Content disabled
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Higgs government blunts opposition abortion motion, removes references
to Clinic 554
Motion would have allowed funding of abortions at Fredericton clinic

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Dec 17, 2020 6:51 PM AT


66 Comments


Brian Robertson
When it acceptable for private clinics to provide medical services to
New Brunswickers at taxpayer expense, then you can make the case for
this.
To single out abortion as some exception to the rule is unacceptable.

David R. Amos
Reply to @Brian Robertson: I concur







Dan Short
All the posters attacking religion and God is hilarious, I guess they
forgot the charter they rave about over abortion also protects
religion.

Hypocrisy at its finest is on display here.

David R. Amos
Reply to @Dan Short: The Charter affirms that one does not have to be
religious to be pro life

Dan Short
Reply to @David R. Amos:
That's not true.

With the charter you can argue pro choice on its own merits and protections.
However there is no specific protection for pro life and other clauses
must be used to defend such a position.

David R. Amos
Reply to @Dan Short: Free Speech is a right alright






Corrie Weatherfield
I thought M. Trudeau threatened to cut some health care funding
because of this issue . . . ? ?

David R. Amos
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Methinks most folks don't believe
politicians N'esy Pas?





 

 

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