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From a doomed church, a 136-year-old story of vaccine mandates and resistance

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From a doomed church, a 136-year-old story of vaccine mandates and resistance

Piece of newsprint found in N.B. church tells a familiar story of unrest during a smallpox outbreak in 1885

The clipping details a push to get Montreal school children vaccinated against smallpox at a time when vaccine mandates were sparking violent riots, despite the disease killing thousands in Quebec.

The page from the now-defunct Montreal Herald is believed to have been printed in August 1885. It was found while crews were demolishing the St. Clement's Catholic Church in the southwestern New Brunswick village of McAdam last December, said Dave Essensa, who worked as project manager on the demolition.

The single sheet of newsprint was discoloured with age and burnt around the edges when it was found on the wet, slushy ground.

Newspaper promoting vaccines during smallpox outbreak found in N.B construction site

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Stuffed in the walls of a McAdam church that burned down not once, but twice, then was found in a mud puddle, the article bears a poignant message from a bygone epidemic. 2:35

It might have been overlooked entirely if Dale Nason, the worker who found it, hadn't read the timely headline: "Vaccination for school children."

"The word 'vaccination' caught his eye," said Essensa, speaking to CBC's Harry Forestell.

"And he brought it over to a construction trailer that we had set up here on the site and more or less looked at me and he said, 'What do you think of that?'"

Dave Essensa, project manager for the demolition, took the newsprint home with him and did some research to determine the publication date. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Digging into the background

Essensa said he brought the piece of newsprint home that night to give it a closer look.

The publication date had been lost, and the weathered text of the story was hard to read.

However, by drawing on a few key details, Essensa said he determined the story must have been about the push to vaccinate school children against smallpox during Montreal's devastating outbreak in 1885.

"The article speaks of a doctor [Louis] Laberge as being the chief medical health officer for the City of Montreal," said Essensa.

"A bit of internet searching and referencing some articles … that spoke to a smallpox epidemic in the province of Quebec in 1885."

The smallpox outbreak of 1885 killed 3,259 people in Montreal alone and 5,964 across Quebec.

During the outbreak, violent riots broke out in the streets of Montreal by groups opposed to the city's vaccination campaign, according to Jonathan M. Berman's When antivaccine sentiment turned violent: the Montréal Vaccine Riot of 1885published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal.

"On Sept. 28, the Board of Health announced that vaccination was to be made compulsory," writes Berman.

"In response, a 'howling mob' surrounded the East End Branch Health Office that evening and 'wrecked' the building."

Reflection of today's challenges

The resumption of in-person classes in New Brunswick this week came as officials, including Chief Medical Officer of Health Jennifer Russell, urged parents to get their children vaccinated against COVID-19.

At the same time, a vocal minority of people have gathered in cities in New Brunswick and Canada in recent weeks to protest COVID-19 vaccination requirements.

Given the current climate around vaccine mandates, Essensa said the discovery of the clipping was an interesting coincidence.

"What I took from it was... our ancestors have been through these things before. Civilization has been through these things before," Essensa said.

"Let's just get this done. And yeah, [the discovery] was pretty bizarre, but I'm not going to read more into it than that."

Surviving two fires and a demolition

Essensa said he suspects the clipping had been packed into a wall of the church as insulation, which explains why it was suddenly found on the ground during the demolition.

He said the timeline matches with construction of the church in 1889.

     A stained-glass arch window was saved during the demolition of St. Clement's Catholic Church in McAdam, N.B. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

After that, Essensa said the clipping survived two disasters.

"The church burned in 1904 … the main vestry area which this [clipping] came out of, survived that first fire in 1904, was rebuilt, and then in the 1940s, it burned again," he said.  

"And it appears by all accounts... that paper would have been in there as insulation. A vast majority of it would have been burned in one or both of those fires, and somehow this one little piece survived."

McAdam Mayor Ken Stannix said he thinks the clipping is a significant reminder that though people have rejected vaccines in the past, history has proven they work.

"I think it gives us a message that these vaccines, so long as they are vetted by the scientific community as they have, work to the benefit of mankind rather than against it," Stannix said.

"And I think once people come to realize the benefits of the vaccines in the current age, they will do that. They will take them."

With files from Harry Forestell

 

 

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David Amos
Groundhog Day 2/22022: Punxsutawney Phil Predicts Six More Weeks Of Winter

Now is the winter of our discontent brought on by legions of politicians and bureaucratic minions after 2 long years of illegal lock-down mandates for the benefit of the wealthy few.

Methinks everybody should enjoy a little Deja Vu on Ground Hog Day until we make things right N'esy Pas?

Groundhog Day is the classic film we now live every single day
Writer Megan Garber says the romantic comedy was a horror movie all along
CBC Radio · Posted: Jan 29, 2021 8:10 PM ET

"When Groundhog Day was released in 1993, the premise of the comedy film seemed completely implausible. It was the stuff of fiction. But then came 2020 and the COVID-19 pandemic, and suddenly the film seemed a little more relatable and realistic."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Martial Marcotte
The groundhog predicted 6 more weeks of winter. I’m from Winnipeg so I say” terrific an early spring “
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Martial Marcotte: Methinks the same can be said in the Maritimes N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jake Wright
Wow what a coincidence my friend found a newspaper in his house from the 1930s and is an article but the national socialist party of Germany which is crazy cuz it's just like the liberal party of Canada now! And in the article it suggests that the national radio service of Germany is pure propaganda.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jake Wright: Methinks history repeats itself constantly just like an old movie about today N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
james stewart 
The smallpox vaccine was perhaps the first success against an endemic disease.
The concept had originally been brought to Europe by the wife of the British ambassador to the Sublime Porte in Istanbul in the late 1700s. She had witnessed the women in the harem using needles to take the liquid from the pustules on, I believe, milkmaids who had cowpox, a related, still disfiguring, but much less virulent disease, and scratching it on their children's skin. Upon inquiring why, the ladies of the harem told her that it usually protected them and their children from getting serious cases of cowpox and sometimes smallpox.
Edward Jenner famously has been credited with "discovering" vaccination, but this way of providing immunization, which Jenner borrowed, had been practiced in widely separated places for some time before being introduced to Europe.
For the record "vaccine" is derived from the latin word for cow.
It is unsurprising that vaccines, even when they are efficacious, as the smallpox vaccine was from its very beginning, face resistance (pardon the poor pun) from fearmongering and misinformation, as we have been able to witness in the last while.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @james stewart: So you say
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rhea Montgomery 
Same shit, different pile.
 
 
Eva Beeley
Reply to @Rhea Montgomery:
So lady like. But then again you don't have to worry about that, do you?
 
 
Rhea Montgomery
Reply to @Eva Beeley: first thing that popped into my head. Totally based on the headline too!! It's late, shouldn't have even picked up my phone. I'm a very class lady, but can talk like a trucker with the best of 'em... It's fun;) goodnight.
 
 
Rhea Montgomery
Reply to @Eva Beeley: I'm actually shocked it made it through!
 
  
David Amos
Reply to @Rhea Montgomery: C'est Vrai
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Rhea Montgomery: Most of mine did not 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
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Groundhog Day 2/22022: Punxsutawney Phil Predicts Six More Weeks Of Winter

Now is the winter of our discontent brought on by legions of politicians and bureaucratic minions after 2 long years of illegal lock-down mandates for the benefit of the wealthy few.

Methinks everybody should enjoy a little Deja Vu on Ground Hog Day until we make things right N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos:
Groundhog Day is the classic film we now live every single day
Writer Megan Garber says the romantic comedy was a horror movie all along
CBC Radio · Posted: Jan 29, 2021 8:10 PM ET

"When Groundhog Day was released in 1993, the premise of the comedy film seemed completely implausible. It was the stuff of fiction. But then came 2020 and the COVID-19 pandemic, and suddenly the film seemed a little more relatable and realistic."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Geoffrey May
the eradication if smallpox was a unique event owing to the fact that small pox had no non human hosts , unlike say , coronaviruses .CBC keeping the propaganda going while ignoring what everyone sees , our double vaxed and boosted PM got covid and mandates vaccines he knows from experience dont work
 
 
Tarl Cabbot 
Reply to @Geoffrey May:
Baloney
 
 
Douglas Crawford 
Reply to @Tarl Cabbot: Mo really ,Trudeau even said so.
 
 
James Saks 
Reply to @Geoffrey May:
The fact that it inflicted humans and was contagious should have inclined you not to write such b.s.
 
 
Trina Thorne
Reply to @Geoffrey May: it’s worth noting the small pox vaccine was developed from cow pox.
 
 
James Saks 
Reply to @Trina Thorne:
It's worth noting that vaccines came about from European traveler copying (stealing?) from Turkey who happen to be using a acupuncture method to inoculate themselves.
 
 
Jimmy Kooymans
Reply to @Geoffrey May:
How many uninformed antivaxxers are there?
I thought for sure we must have seen the last of them.
They're worse than the damn virus.
 
 
 
David Amos 
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Reply to @Jimmy Kooymans: Methinks you should follow your great leader's lead So If you can't take the heat best exit left and get out of the kitchen ASAP N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Tarl Cabbot: Methinks you must remember teasing me about being a motorcycle guy before the eradication of my words N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kim Grondin
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small pox vaccine was/is a real vaccine, unlike the current shot being touted as one. Unlike a smallpox vaccine the current shot is missing a key feature...that it stops contraction of the disease, rather than merely mitigating symptoms. People even with boosters are still dying.
 
 
Alan Douglas
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Reply to @Kim Grondin:
Name any vaccine that results in long-lasting protection against infection. And the smallpox vaccine is not one.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Kim Grondin: Oh So True
 
 
Art McCarthy
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Reply to @Kim Grondin:
The original vaccine was spectacular against the novel virus, and very good against the delta variant. It's performance against omicron is less successful in preventing infection and provides very good protection against severe infection.
The vaccine makers announced that they were modifying the vaccine for the substantial mutations in omicron. I'm confident the next version of the vaccine will be also highly successful in preventing infection.
Curious; what is your criteria for a "real" vaccine? What is your term for a vaccine that does not meet that criteria? I've not seen the term "real" applied in any biology or epidemiology text.
 
 
Douglas Webb
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Reply to @Kim Grondin: Sure people getting the boosters are dying, the question that actually matters is what is the relative improvement in survival chances accrued by getting vaccinated.

In a CDC study conducted across 13 jurisdictions from April 4-July 17, 2021.
In people unvaccinated, they were 5 times more likely to become infected, 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and over 10 times more likely to die from COVID-19.
Omicron data is not yet as complete, but some preliminary data indicates it's similar.
 
 
Bala Viswa
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Reply to @Kim Grondin: What are your views on the flu vaccine? Or the chicken pox vaccine? Or the polio vaccine?
 
 
Peter Griffin 
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Reply to @Kim Grondin: "small pox vaccine was/is a real vaccine, unlike the current shot being touted as one."
Once again an anti-vaxxers proves he knows nothing about science. This is why anti-vaxxers should just be ignored. They have no clue.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Peter Griffin: Peter Löwenbräu Griffin, Sr., born Justin Peter Griffin is a fictional character and the protagonist of the American animated sitcom Family Guy. 
 
 
Douglas Webb
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Reply to @David Amos: David Amos was an actor born on December 15, 1958 in the UK.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Douglas Webb: True
However I am However David Raymond Amos born July 17th, 1952 in Sackville NB. My cousin Madame Mitton, her buddy Higgy, everybody's boss Trudeau The Younger and their many cohorts know I have run against them 7 times this far.

Methinks you knew that too N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Peter Griffin: "To encourage thoughtful and respectful conversations, first and last names will appear with each submission to CBC/Radio-Canada's online communities (except in children and youth-oriented communities). Pseudonyms will no longer be permitted."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Martin Yan
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always a violent minority who can't understand reason, which is why there's religion.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Martin Yan: Methinks Big Bad Billy Boy Gates is your favourite prophet who has profited the most from your new religion N'esy Pas?
 
 
Peter Griffin 
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Reply to @David Amos: You prove his point perfectly.
Bill Gates has nothing to do with any of this, yet you bring him into the discussion based on nothing except perhaps some other dumb conspiracy theories.
As he said "minority who can't understand reason"
 
 
gary tomlison
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Reply to @David Amos: wow that’s original
 
 
Tarl Cabbot
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Reply to @David Amos:
seems like some posts got lost. I couldn't find my way back.
anyway, motorcycle guy is just some random person I saw riding a motorcycle in the snow today here in sw ont. 
 
 
Jamie Taylor
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Reply to @Martin Yan:

CBC wants to know how to fight Islamaphobia? Anti-Semitism?

Maybe stop allowing anti-religious comments like yours. God is good.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Jamie Taylor: Which God are you referring to?
 

 

 

 

 

 
 
Chuck Morrison
People don't change.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Chuck Morrison: I wholeheartedly agree 
 
 
Angela Goodwin
Reply to @David Amos: What, no "N'esy Pas" lol
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Angela Goodwin: Scroll up 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Angela Goodwin: Methinks if you snooze you lose N'esy Pas? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
David Amos 
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Groundhog Day 2/22022: Punxsutawney Phil Predicts Six More Weeks Of Winter

Now is the winter of our discontent brought on by legions of politicians and bureaucratic minions after 2 long years of illegal lock-down mandates for the benefit of the wealthy few.

Methinks everybody should enjoy a little Deja Vu on Ground Hog Day until we make things right N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos:
Groundhog Day is the classic film we now live every single day
Writer Megan Garber says the romantic comedy was a horror movie all along
CBC Radio · Posted: Jan 29, 2021 8:10 PM ET

"When Groundhog Day was released in 1993, the premise of the comedy film seemed completely implausible. It was the stuff of fiction. But then came 2020 and the COVID-19 pandemic, and suddenly the film seemed a little more relatable and realistic." 

 
 
Tarl Cabbot
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Reply to @David Amos:
Sorry, but Phil is vetoed by motorcycle guy, and the arrival of robins in SW Ont.
Early spring
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Tarl Cabbot: Rest assured that I don't care

However who do you think is the motorcycle guy teasing the wannabe bikers Higgy and Cardy???

 

 

 

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