Thursday 3 May 2018

The LIEbrano's very predictable pre election payola season begins with Ontario

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/feds-social-housing-fund-announcement-1.4644954


Ottawa targets shovel-ready projects for quick wins from $13B social housing fund

Fund will dole out loans and grants over the next decade


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Tom Forsythe 
Tom Forsythe
I see the CBC is just printing Liberal Party press releases, verbatim.



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Henry "Oh really? Tell us, what makes you "qualified" to comment on Canadian journalism and its impact on national unity?"

Methinks I am "qualified" to have an argument with you particularly after you read this article and its comment section N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

David Amos
David Amos
@Darren MacDonald It certainly looks that way


Kevan Cleverbridge (Hill 70) 
Kevan Cleverbridge (Hill 70)
10 years? Trudeau will be gone in a year and a half.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Who is Nanos?

David Amos
David Amos
@David Allan BTW if you still wish to see proof of a form 211

Google

qsls bank fraud pay out


Tom Forsythe 
Paul Douglas
Will the lucky housing recipients need to sign an attestation clause saying they support Liberal values?

David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Douglas Methinks that sounds about par for the course these days N'esy Pas?.


Ben Smith 
Ben Smith
Over the next decade? lol these left wing Liberals have 17 months left.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ben Smith Methinks I hear only crickets N'esy Pas?



Tom Forsythe 
bill chagwich
and yet McKenna always mentions the environment for her children, but spending their money 10 years down the road is a no concern for her, children should not have to pay for foolish spending


David Amos
David Amos
@Darren MacDonald YUP

David Amos
David Amos @bill chagwich What of us old folks. There are other Ministers who have lots to say such as this dude.

Social Development Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said in an interview.
The federal money begins to flow this year, unlike some provincial spending that will start next year. Duclos said the housing co-investment fund, among other items to be rolled out this year from the national housing strategy, has been in the works since he and his provincial and territorial counterparts met two years ago. "We're now able to do things relatively quickly,"

Yea Right FYI because the Chretien CRA dudes deleted my SIN the Harper government laughed at me would not give me my CPP for years until the writ was dropped. Then Trudeau The Younger's government kept laughing at me and would not give me my Old Age pension until I threatened to sue Jean-Yves Duclos and his minions. Now they have billions to give away to aid in their reelection?


Tom Forsythe 
Kelly Nelson
" help people with developmental disabilities and women fleeing domestic violence"

Sounds awfully gender specific... Mustn't have passed JT's desk for "peoplizing"


Richard Sharp
Richard Sharp
@Kelly Nelson

People with disabilities is a gender neutral term, Kelly, in case you want to learn something. Better helping women fleeing domestic violence doesn’t need an explanation to most but you might want to Google it.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Methinks if folks Google Peoplekind all they will see is your hero Trudeau "The Younger" N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos 
@Richard Sharp Methinks the liberals are trying t buy Ontario votes before Doug Ford's bulldozer fires up and buries their carbon tax scheme once and for all N'esy Pas?

"Getting money out the door soon could also give the Liberals a political boost during their re-election bid next year.

At the Toronto announcement of the fund on Wednesday, Liberal MP Adam Vaughan implored local voters to support candidates in upcoming elections who would maintain funding for projects whose financing could be subject to changing political whims.

The federal Liberals have looked to avoid that fate for their long-term plan, trying to lock in 10-year funding agreements with each province and territory by the end of the year so they can take credit in next year's federal election for bringing the national housing strategy to life.

The first of those deals was signed on Monday with Ontario — a 10-year deal valued at $4.2 billion aimed at protecting 130,000 affordable housing units in Canada's most populous province."


Tom Forsythe 
brian duog
The $13.2-billion fund — the largest chunk of cash in the Liberals' $40 billion national housing
any chance some of this might end up in the pockets of the party members ?


Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@brian duog Perhaps friends and friends of friends.

David Amos
David Amos
@Darren MacDonald and all their distant cousins too.


Craig Nettles 
Craig Nettles
"Ottawa targets shovel-ready projects"

Great, head over to the LPC/PMO, they need more help shoveling what they put out


David Amos
David Amos
@Craig Nettles Methinks everybody took your advice and headed over N'esy Pas?


Tom Forsythe 
Shawn Pieterson
More money fro hard working Canadians going to people who think work is beneath them.


Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy) I believe he is talking about capable individuals who would prefer not to work.


David Amos
David Amos
@Darren MacDonald Many understood him but others will twist it anyway. Methinks if someone hasn't noticed capable individuals gaming the welfare state then they are quite simply not paying attention. If has grown into and industry that many bureaucrats, "charitable organizations" and contractors etc rely on for their lively hood N'esy Pas?

  
Matej Novak
Matej Novak
Has there been a gender analysis of how this money will be spent?


Tony Belmore
Tony Belmore
@Matej Novak You could not comprehend the article I see?

Richard Sharp
Richard Sharp
@Tony Belmore

Could not comprehend? Or Matej did not care, he had another (anti-Trudeau) agenda. The latter, methinks.

Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Tony Belmore Read into the article.

David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Methinks you suffer from a pro-Trudeau affliction or perhaps affection N'esy Pas?







Tom Forsythe 
Paul Douglas
Not allocated specifically to specific provinces but like most Liberal initiatives it will be allocated disproportionately to Liberal friendly ridings. Pork barrel politics is alive and well!


David Allan
David Allan
@Paul Douglas

Since this is about shovel-ready projects, you just said Conservative ridings can't get their ducks lined up and their projects ready.

You just called Conservatives incompetent.

 
Paul Douglas
Paul Douglas
@David Allan
Nope. I just called the Liberals pork barrel politicians.

Eddie Brock
Eddie Brock
@David Allan "Since this is about shovel-ready projects, you just said Conservative ridings can't get their ducks lined up and their projects ready. You just called Conservatives incompetent."

You're making sloppy inferences and then attributing to @Paul a conclusion that he doesn't himself make.

You do this all the time and you appear to think you're clever for doing so. You aren't.

Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
@Paul Douglas

You mean like Harper gave hundreds of millions of taxpayer money to private Christian churches and organizations? That pork barrel politics?

David Allan
David Allan
@Paul Douglas

The subtext is that Cons can't get their projects shovel ready.

David Allan
David Allan
@Eddie Brock
"You're making sloppy inferences and then attributing to @Paul a conclusion that he doesn't himself make. "

No sloppy inference at all. All the facts are established.
It's established that shovel ready projects get priority.
It's established that Paul thinks it's only for Lib ridings.

The logical inference from both statements in concert is that Cons don't have shovel ready projects. To be more accurate, I could say that Paul thinks Cons can't get their ducks lined up. I did afford him more authority on the subject than he demonstrates. That's just me being polite.

It's a syllogism.
A common tool of logic and reason.

A syllogism (Greek: συλλογισμός syllogismos, "conclusion, inference") is a kind of logical argument that applies deductive reasoning to arrive at a conclusion based on two or more propositions that are asserted or assumed to be true.
All men are mortal.
Paul Douglas is a man.
Therefore, Paul Douglas is mortal.

Richard Sharp
Richard Sharp
@Paul Douglas

The Cons perfected pork barrel politics with Tony Clement’s million dollar gazebo. The Lin’s did away with that, as well as the the waste of a BILLION dollars in government advertising telling Canadians how great the (Harper) government was, e.g., EAP ads. The Libs CANCELLED ALL SUCH PARTISAN ADS.

Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Paul Douglas Some provinces will need it more when rent is more than the cost of a mortgage.

Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Eddie Brock "Since this is about shovel-ready projects"
I would like to know what the financial backers get. A guaranteed 10%?

David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp "The Cons perfected pork barrel politics with Tony Clement’s million dollar gazebo"

Good point

David Amos
David Amos
@David Allan "It's a syllogism"

Wow

Methinks we all should be impressed by your education N'esy Pas? Why not read the proof you demanded of me yesterday and argue me?


Ottawa targets shovel-ready projects for quick wins from $13B social housing fund

Fund will dole out loans and grants over the next decade


The federal government's new $13.2-billion social housing fund is set to target some 300,000 affordable housing units for repair or construction. (Keith Srakocic/The Associated Press)


A newly launched federal housing fund is looking for early wins in a bid to help people with developmental disabilities, low-income seniors and women fleeing domestic violence.

The $13.2-billion fund is the largest chunk of cash under the Liberals' $40 billion national housing strategy unveiled late last year, but will require other levels of government or the private sector to kick in cash for projects.

The money will be doled out through a mix of low-interest loans — valued at almost $8.7 billion — and $4.5 billion in non-repayable grants that the government hopes will spur construction of 60,000 new, affordable housing units and pay for repairs to 240,000 more units to ensure they stay available for families in need.

Those units are expected to include at least 4,000 shelter spaces for survivors of family violence, 7,000 affordable units for seniors and 2,400 affordable housing spaces for people with developmental disabilities.

Projects that meet or exceed accessibility and energy efficiency standards will be pushed to the front of the line for funding consideration. Officials also are going to prioritize projects that are advanced enough in planning that they could be approved for funding in the coming months.


Although the cash is being spread out over the next decade, Ottawa's plan isn't to specify allocations by province or territory. The minister in charge of the strategy says the funding will be based on need.

"The Canadian government will invest where there is a need to invest and where the social, environmental and economic impact is demonstrably significant," Social Development Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said in an interview.

The federal money begins to flow this year, unlike some provincial spending that will start next year.
Duclos said the housing co-investment fund, among other items to be rolled out this year from the national housing strategy, has been in the works since he and his provincial and territorial counterparts met two years ago.

"We're now able to do things relatively quickly," Duclos said.

Getting money out the door soon could also give the Liberals a political boost during their re-election bid next year.

At the Toronto announcement of the fund on Wednesday, Liberal MP Adam Vaughan implored local voters to support candidates in upcoming elections who would maintain funding for projects whose financing could be subject to changing political whims.

The federal Liberals have looked to avoid that fate for their long-term plan, trying to lock in 10-year funding agreements with each province and territory by the end of the year so they can take credit in next year's federal election for bringing the national housing strategy to life.

The first of those deals was signed on Monday with Ontario — a 10-year deal valued at $4.2 billion aimed at protecting 130,000 affordable housing units in Canada's most populous province.

The terms of the agreement suggest the Trudeau Liberals used the electoral and fiscal needs of their provincial brethren to create leverage as federal officials hope to pry similar terms from the remaining provinces and territories.

The deal with Ontario limits the ability of the province to carry over unspent money from one year to the next, so provincial governments can't delay spending to artificially decrease budgetary deficits. It also provides few avenues for the province to opt out of the agreement if a future government wants to renegotiate.

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