Trump claims 'absolute right' to pardon himself
Remark comes a day after president's top lawyer called self-pardon 'unthinkable'
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David Amos
Methinks that as a Proud Maritimer who has run for public office five times since 2004 after suing legions of Yankee lawyers and the Queen I have earned the right to state the following N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/trumps-tariffs-nb-not-immune-1.4690478
Methinks Mr. Marcolin should ignore Mindless Mr. Melanson the latest local Minister responsible for trade policy and and check my work in the USA and Canada going back to 2001. All he has to do to begin is Google the following and start surfing the Internet N'esy Pas?
Ron Trump NAFTA Wilbur Ross David Amos
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David Amos
Methinks that as a Proud Maritimer who has run for public office five times since 2004 after suing legions of Yankee lawyers and the Queen I have earned the right to state the following N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/trumps-tariffs-nb-not-immune-1.4690478
Methinks Mr. Marcolin should ignore Mindless Mr. Melanson the latest local Minister responsible for trade policy and and check my work in the USA and Canada going back to 2001. All he has to do to begin is Google the following and start surfing the Internet N'esy Pas?
Ron Trump NAFTA Wilbur Ross David Amos
Wil Brown
On the bright side, 46 will have to be an improvement. I don't think the Americans can set the bar any lower.
David Amos
@Wil Brown Methinks Canadian
folks need to see it for what it is. Trump is not our leader Why not
just sit back and enjoy the circus south of the 49th because there is
nothing you can do about it anyway N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Inas Johnson "This article is just more B.S. to keep all distracted and worked up over things that don't exist."
YUP
YUP
David Amos
@Thomas Crane "I hope I'm wrong."
Methinks Mean Mikey Pence the Yankee lawyer and "Prez in Waiting" is as surprised as I am that Trump has remained his boss this long N'esy Pas?
Methinks Mean Mikey Pence the Yankee lawyer and "Prez in Waiting" is as surprised as I am that Trump has remained his boss this long N'esy Pas?
Jamie Robins
An innocent person does not talk about pardoning themselves.
David Amos
@Jamie Robins Methinks that is when he should say "pardon me" N'esy Pas?
Inas Johnson
@Jamie Robins
Still waiting for more than a nothing burger.
Still waiting for more than a nothing burger.
David Amos
@Inas Johnson Me Too
Gorden Feist
Years ago someone who was above the law was considered a dictator. Now the alt-right consider him a hero. Sad!
David Amos
@Jim Palmer Methinks you fail to see the humour in this nonsense N'esy Pas?
Anna Lyle
Good grief! This is further evidence of the mental health issues Trump obviously suffers from.
@Anna Lyle Methinks narcissism is not a mental health issue but believing in the words lawyers certainly should be N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Inas Johnson "Stop and think. Try to read up and check all the other sides of the story"
Methinks you should do the same N'esy Pas? Instead of burying my comments why not Google the following?
Trump NAFTA FATCA Cohen David Amos
Methinks you should do the same N'esy Pas? Instead of burying my comments why not Google the following?
Trump NAFTA FATCA Cohen David Amos
Ken Simpson
Kim Jong-un and Trump should get alone great they are both crazy.
@Ken Simpson
Not just 'plain' crazy, but Bat$#!+ crazy !!!
Not just 'plain' crazy, but Bat$#!+ crazy !!!
David Amos
@Jim Palmer Methinks you are letting the Yankee circus upset you too much N'esy Pas?
Jamie Robins
Trump is actually making Bush look good!!
@Jamie Robins
Everyone supporting that comment of yours
*clearly* has no clue about G.W. Bush.
Trump hasn't caused *1/10th* of the harm that G.W. Bush has caused.
Everyone supporting that comment of yours
*clearly* has no clue about G.W. Bush.
Trump hasn't caused *1/10th* of the harm that G.W. Bush has caused.
@Lou Parks True
Inas Johnson
@Jamie Robins
No. Your perception of reality vs fantasy is cracking.
No. Your perception of reality vs fantasy is cracking.
David Amos
@Inas Johnson Methinks you
may enjoy my perception of reality after you read the comment section
found in the link below published one year before Trump was elected
N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
Randy Ellis
No way Putin could have
foreseen the wild success he's had in his bid to get a reality TV
celebrity with zero political experience elected as President of the
United States. Not even through the second year and already the guy is
talking about pardoning himself, the country is a laughing stock and on
the brink of a Constitutional Crisis.
Well played Vladimir, well played indeed.
Well played Vladimir, well played indeed.
@Randy Ellis Sure, blame thew Russians, why not. America could never admit that they did this to themselves.
@Alexander Borgia Oh So True
Gorden Feist
The very rich and the very poor voted for Trump. One group lacks education and the other lacks a moral compass.
David Amos
@Gorden Feist Methinks the
rich and the poor amongst the Yankee "peoplekind" had no other choice
because "The Donald" was the lesser of two evils offered on their
ballots N'esy Pas?
Syd Barret
Trump is doing his absolute best to look like a tin pot despot.
@Syd Barret
At least he’s not hiding that he’s a tin pot despot at heart.
At least he’s not hiding that he’s a tin pot despot at heart.
Kevin Graves (AKA Jaspersdad)
@Theo Crane
"He tells it like it is."
"He tells it like it is."
David Amos
@Theo Crane Well put
Jed Took
the U.S. has become the laughing stock of the world...what a joke
David Amos
@Jed Took Methinks everybody loves a circus N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-pardon-himself-authoritarianism-experts-fascism-horrified-1.4691331
Trump muses about pardoning himself, experts on authoritarianism are horrified
What some scholars of populism and fascism think about Trump's trial balloon on pardons
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John Dunn
The move to authoritarianism
continues with Trump leading the parade. I am fearful the world is
entering a very dark time yet again.
David Amos
@John Dunn "I am fearful the world is entering a very dark time yet again."
Methinks as a Baby Boomer I was born into a dark time inspired by Yankees and its never eased up Before old folks have a stroke they should take care of their pension plans then relax and enjoy the circus south of the 49th. The Yankees have elections every two years to keep us amused until its time to push up the daisies N'esy Pas?
Methinks as a Baby Boomer I was born into a dark time inspired by Yankees and its never eased up Before old folks have a stroke they should take care of their pension plans then relax and enjoy the circus south of the 49th. The Yankees have elections every two years to keep us amused until its time to push up the daisies N'esy Pas?
wilson abernathy
@John Dunn - The alt-right
pushes back hard. There have been many " new" accounts on social media
with some leading attacks on journalists. The recent HuffPost incident
is an example...
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-trolls-lash-out-against-journalist-for-revealing-identity
When a journalist traced a series of attacks and could name names, all heck ensued to his online persona
With midterms being crucial for the Potus's survival we can expect some push back from the alt-right.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-trolls-lash-out-against-journalist-for-revealing-identity
When a journalist traced a series of attacks and could name names, all heck ensued to his online persona
With midterms being crucial for the Potus's survival we can expect some push back from the alt-right.
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David Amos
David Amos
@wilson abernathy "When a journalist traced a series of attacks and could name names, all heck ensued to his online persona"
Methinks CBC is supposed to insure the fact that people use their real names in here but its painfully obvious to me that they have failed bigtime in the regard N'esy Pas?
Methinks CBC is supposed to insure the fact that people use their real names in here but its painfully obvious to me that they have failed bigtime in the regard N'esy Pas?
Sally Grayson
America needs a hero to fix the Trump problem.
Jonathan D. Moddle
@David Lawrence Biden could...and Barack could be VP...just sayin
David Amos
@Jonathan D. Moddle Now thats funny
Nick Mcbain
Perhaps what is most
troubling for the American people, Trump is a self-professed
non-intellectual. He revels in ignorance. He's proud that he doesn't
read. That is to say, Trump has little to no idea of the consequences of
his words and actions. He's unburdened by the knowledge and lessons of
history. Truly, America has entered a new dark era from which they'll be
lucky to escape.
Robert Paul
@Troy Mann
Trudeau displays totalitarian tendencies - like making church groups swear they support abortion, and telling the Boushie jurors that they made the wrong decision.
There are plenty of politicians who would not have done either, on both the right and the left wings. Trudeau is definitely fitting into the "heavy" handed category, even if he is nothing like Trump in degree of this.
Trudeau displays totalitarian tendencies - like making church groups swear they support abortion, and telling the Boushie jurors that they made the wrong decision.
There are plenty of politicians who would not have done either, on both the right and the left wings. Trudeau is definitely fitting into the "heavy" handed category, even if he is nothing like Trump in degree of this.
Rob Kov
@Robert Paul how about those compelled speech laws?
I bet if Trump did that the MSM would explode.
I bet if Trump did that the MSM would explode.
David Amos
@Robert Paul YUP
David Amos
@Rob Kov YUP
Wayne Brown
I had a bit of respect for
Trump-in the beginning as his crowning got rid of the same old
establishment that was corrupt. He became president because of an
anti-establishment vote. But honest, the guy has shown nothing but
chaos-assuming news media is even half accurate. Why hasn't he, or can
he be impeached. Gee-Nixon seemed like a saint to this felllar.
David Amos
@Don Robinson "Nixon's maniacal bombing of Cambodia remains the worst crime ever committed by a sitting US president."
Methinks there have been WMDs found in Iraq after 15 years of destruction and occupation N'esy Pas?
Methinks there have been WMDs found in Iraq after 15 years of destruction and occupation N'esy Pas?
Al Park
This is the result of a reality tv star getting with a massive ego, getting in the heads of uneducated people.
robert williams
@Al Park
And to have what is a State controlled network pushing your propaganda like Fox does.
And to have what is a State controlled network pushing your propaganda like Fox does.
Jim Oxener
@robert williams
you think CBC doing the same thing is okay?
you think CBC doing the same thing is okay?
Troy Mann
@Jim Oxener
CBC doesn't
CBC doesn't
Tamara Jae
@robert williams
that is exactly what CBC does...and you have no problem with that...why is that?
that is exactly what CBC does...and you have no problem with that...why is that?
Troy Mann
@Tamara Jae
Does repeating lie over and over again actually make you believe it?
Does repeating lie over and over again actually make you believe it?
David Amos
@Tamara Jae You hit the nail on the head. Good luck getting an ethical answer.
Dale Sullivan
There are many people in
Canada, and posters on this site, who continually say they want a leader
like Trump. The rest of us must ensure this never happens.
Michael Murphy
@Corey Joseph Who?
Mike Martin
@Corey Joseph
I wouldn't count in Scheer making it. Even so, he's certainly not like Trump.
I wouldn't count in Scheer making it. Even so, he's certainly not like Trump.
Troy Mann
@Mike Martin
Sheer is worse
He is a puppet
Sheer is worse
He is a puppet
Bob Hull
@Corey Joseph
sheer lunacy.
sheer lunacy.
David Amos
@Michael Murphy "Who?"
Methinks you know who Harper 2.0 is N'esy Pas?
Methinks you know who Harper 2.0 is N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Mike Martin Methinks he is just younger and has more hair N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Troy Mann "He is a puppet"
Methinks Trump is as well N'esy Pas?
Methinks Trump is as well N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Bob Hull "sheer lunacy."
Methinks that is what makes a decent circus N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is what makes a decent circus N'esy Pas?
Kathy Altenhofen
@David Amos Yes, he dances to Putin's tune.
Rob LeDrew
“Sad” what America has turned into.
@Robert Paul
So, you believe that the United States should still be a British colony and ruled by Queen Elizabeth II???
So, you believe that the United States should still be a British colony and ruled by Queen Elizabeth II???
David Amos
@John Oaktree Methinsk you should check the dockets to see why I sued Queen Elizabeth II N'esy Pas?
David Scott
Pardoned from what? Why is
even mentioning this. My guess he knows hes done. It's only a matter of
time. Hurry Mueller. with Manafort now about to be charged with witness
tampering. His role over will speed things up.
Scott Brown
@David Scott,
It's so funny how simple words could be twisted in such a way.
Trump has been a target of a pointless and fruitless witch hunt for the last 2 years (wiretapping and a spy was placed in his campaign even before the elections).
Now Trump says that even though President has the power to pardon himself (and he is correct, see below), he won't need to because the whole witch hunt is absolutely nonsense.
And somehow his haters turns this into claiming that he is guilty. Hilarious lack of logic.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/did-fbi-have-spy-in-trump-presidential-campaign/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/yes-trump-can-legally-pardon-himself-or-his-family-no-he-shouldnt/2017/07/21/6134fb12-6e2d-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html?utm_term=.f4dec3da3b83
David Amos
@Scott Brown "And somehow his haters turns this into claiming that he is guilty. Hilarious lack of logic."
Methinks you understand who the ringmaster is in the Yankee circus N'esy Pas?
Methinks you understand who the ringmaster is in the Yankee circus N'esy Pas?
Bruce Nelson
The 39 signatories of the U.S. Constitution, are all fervorously spinning in their graves.
David Amos
@Bruce Nelson "The 39 signatories of the U.S. Constitution, are all fervorously spinning in their graves"
Methinks they are laughing as hard as I am N'esy Pas?
Methinks they are laughing as hard as I am N'esy Pas?
Trump claims 'absolute right' to pardon himself
Remark comes a day after president's top lawyer called self-pardon 'unthinkable'
U.S. President Donald Trump declared Monday that he has the "absolute right" to pardon himself, but added he had done nothing wrong, asserting his presidential power as the White House sharpens its political and legal defences against the special counsel's Russia probe.
Trump's comments on Twitter came a day after attorney Rudy Giuliani played down the possibility that the president could pardon himself, suggesting he might have that authority but would be unwise to use it.
"Pardoning himself would be unthinkable and probably lead to immediate impeachment," Giuliani, a member of Trump's legal team, told NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday. "And he has no need to do it, he's done nothing wrong."
In Monday's tweet, the president said:
But Giuliani, in a series of television interviews, broke with one of their bolder arguments in the letter that a president could not have committed obstruction of justice because he has ultimate authority over any federal investigation.
Yet the former New York City mayor, who was not on the legal team when the Jan. 29 letter was written, added that Trump "probably does" have the power to pardon himself, an assertion challenged by legal scholars. He says the president's legal team hasn't discussed that option, which many observers believe could plunge the nation into a constitutional crisis.
We don't live in a monarchy and you are not a king.— Democratic Rep. Ted Deutch"I think the political ramifications would be tough," Giuliani told ABC's This Week. "Pardoning other people is one thing, pardoning yourself is tough."
Trump has issued two unrelated pardons in recent days and discussed others, a move that has been interpreted as a possible signal to allies ensnared in the Russia probe.
White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders partly echoed Trump and Giuliani on Monday when she told reporters the president wouldn't need a pardon because he "hasn't done anything wrong."
"Certainly no one is above the law," Sanders said.
But she also defended Trump's assertion that the special counsel investigation is unconstitutional, even though it is overseen by his administration's Justice Department.
No man is a judge in his own case.— Andrew Wright, Savannah Law SchoolMueller has requested an interview with the president to determine whether he had criminal intent to obstruct the investigation into his associates' possible links to Russia's election interference.
Giuliani said Sunday that a decision about an interview would not be made until after Trump's summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un on June 12 in Singapore, and he cast doubt that it would occur at all.
In addition to the legal battles, Trump's team and allies have waged a public relations campaign against Mueller and the Justice Department to discredit the investigation and soften the impact of the special counsel's potential findings.
Giuliani said last week that the special counsel probe may be an "entirely illegitimate investigation" and need to be curtailed because, in his estimation, it was based on inappropriately obtained information from an informant and Comey's memos.
In reality, the FBI began a counterintelligence investigation in July 2016 to determine if Trump campaign associates were co-ordinating with Russia to tip the election. The investigation was opened after the hacking of Democratic emails that intelligence officials later formally attributed to Russia.
Trump's team has requested a briefing about the informant, but Giuliani said Sunday that the president would not order the Justice Department to comply because it would negatively affect public opinion.
But he continued to cast doubt on the special counsel's eventual findings, suggesting that Trump has already offered explanations for the matters being investigated and that the special counsel was biased against the president.
"For every one of these things he did, we can write out five reasons why he did it," Giuliani said. "If four of them are completely innocent and one of them is your assumption that it's a guilty motive, which [Trump] would deny, you can't possibly prosecute him."
Trump's legal team has long pushed the special counsel to narrow the scope of its interview. Giuliani also suggested that Trump's lawyers had been incorrect when they denied that the president was involved with the letter that offered an explanation for Donald Trump Jr.'s 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russians who offered damaging information on Democrat Hillary Clinton.
"This is the reason you don't let the president testify," Giuliani told ABC. "Our recollection keeps changing, or we're not even asked a question and somebody makes an assumption."
A court battle is likely if Trump's team argues that the president can't be forced to answer questions or be charged with obstruction of justice.
President Bill Clinton was charged with obstruction in 1998 by the House of Representatives as part of his impeachment trial. And one of the articles of impeachment prepared against president Richard Nixon in 1974 was for obstruction.
"If there are any limits on the power, it's got to be in the constitution," said Samuel Morison, a former lawyer with Justice Department office that handles pardons. "It's nowhere in the constitution."
But many legal experts disagree. Andrew Wright, a former associate counsel in the Obama White House, said allowing the president to pardon himself would be contrary to fundamental principles of the American legal system.
"One of the basic rules is that no man is a judge in his own case," said Wright, a professor at Savannah Law School.
Trump's tweet on Monday triggered swift political criticism.
"You can't pardon yourself," Democratic Rep. Ted Deutch said on Twitter. "Let me remind you of something, we don't live in a monarchy and you are not a king."
Trump muses about pardoning himself, experts on authoritarianism are horrified
What some scholars of populism and fascism think about Trump's trial balloon on pardons
Donald Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, called the idea of the president pardoning himself "unthinkable." But within a day of that brush-off, the much-disputed power of the U.S. president to absolve himself of a potential crime is precisely what's on Trump's mind.
Scholars studying fascism say the self-declared "law and order" president is now floating a trial balloon they say is reminiscent of authoritarian leaders.
In a tweet sent around 8:30 a.m. on Monday, Trump appeared to be testing public reaction to the prospect of him having the "absolute right" to self-pardon for potential charges of obstruction of justice related to the FBI investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. (Not that he'd ever need to resort such measures, he noted.)
"This is a president who has taken the unthinkable and made it thinkable," said conservative political analyst Charlie Sykes, author of How the Right Lost its Mind.
"Why go there? Unless you're floating it to see what would be considered acceptable in Congress and to the public."
Whether or not Trump really has the constitutional right to grant himself clemency is beside the point for some critics. That the president is publicly flexing these powers in the first place is more troubling for New York University professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a scholar on fascism and authoritarian leaders.
"It's in the tradition of the trial balloons he's been launching since his campaign, which warn the public and his GOP allies that he feels he's above the law," she said.
Trump's tweet followed Giuliani's comments over the weekend that the president couldn't be prosecuted, even "if he shot James Comey," the former FBI director who Trump fired amid the bureau's probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
"I lost sleep about this last night, which is rare for me," Ben-Ghiat said of Giuliani's remarks. The language echoed Trump's campaign boast in January 2016 that he "could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody without losing voters."
Political enemies of Russian President and former KGB agent Vladimir Putin often end up dead. Putin adopted a law in 2006 permitting extrajudicial killings abroad.
Ben-Ghiat compared the violent imagery about Comey to the chilling populist speeches Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte delivered during his campaign to wipe out crime by killing drug dealers. "If I become president, it would be bloody, because we'll order the killing of all criminals," Duterte said.
That's an extreme case, but Ben-Ghiat interprets Trump's self-pardons tweet as the president exploring the limits of his authority with his base.
"It's meant to introduce into public discourse unthinkable ideas, and to start working on the public to make those ideas acceptable."
People who study authoritarianism recognized message-hammering that has branded flimsy conspiracy theories — like "Spygate" and "Uranium One" — and repetition of the phrase "no collusion" to turn it into shorthand for deflecting allegations of wrongdoing in the Russia probe.
After a string of recent pardons over the past month, Trump is now discussing the concept of self-pardoning, though his Republican defenders, including Giuliani and Representative Kevin McCarthy, deny the president has any authoritarian streak.
A self-pardon won't happen, said McCarthy, who as majority leader holds the No. 2 job in the House of Representatives. He told reporters he views Trump's use of the pardon authority as aligning with the normal "checks and balances" of the executive branch.
He also commended Trump's pardons of former Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio (convicted of criminal contempt for defying a court order to stop detaining suspected undocumented immigrants) and Scooter Libby (obstruction of justice and perjury) as "highly justifiable."
But for Trump to suggest he can pardon himself "is to suggest the president is above the law," said Yascha Mounk, who lectures on government at Harvard University and researches the rise of populism.
"I'm absolutely horrified by it," he said. "I step back, and even I see myself becoming numb to it all. And so I'm as horrified by how numb I've become by what the president says. We shouldn't be cavalier about the amount of political danger this portends."
Cas Mudde, a political scientist with the University of Georgia who focuses on populist movements in the U.S. and Europe, laid out a pattern the president seems to follow for introducing controversial ideas:
"Suggesting the possibility of something very controversial, saying he's not really going to do it, then waiting for the liberal outcry, the conservative rallying-around-the president, and the hoped normalization of the suggestion, just in case he will need it in the future," Mudde said.
During the presidential campaign, Trump proposed a "complete shutdown" of all Muslims entering the U.S. Once in office, he signed an executive order banning people from several Muslim-majority countries. It met liberal and legal challenges, was tweaked, and is now being enforced as the Supreme Court considers its merits.
The media have become a normalized object of hate at his campaign events.
"The instinct there is, 'Look, I was elected, I should be able to do whatever I want, so what is it that would potentially constrain me from doing that? The courts, the media, other political parties,'" said Sheri Berman, a professor specializing in populism and fascism at Barnard College, Columbia University.
Strongmen like Russia's Putin, Turkey's Recep Erdogan and Hungary's Viktor Orban have been known to "bask in their ostensible electoral support" while undermining the democratic checks and balances of opposing parties, or the courts, Berman said.
Erdogan, for example, has cracked down on the freedom of the press and the independent judiciary, saying a 2016 ruling by the Constitutional Court to free two journalists charged with attempting to overthrow his government was "against the country and against its people."
To Berman, Trump suggesting he has the right to pardon himself "is perhaps the most egregious example of him saying he cannot be constrained by the legal system."
Pressed by reporters on whether Trump feels he's above the law, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday Trump "hasn't done anything wrong," before eventually saying "certainly no one is above the law."
Berman feels Republicans have been stretched by Trump's testing of his executive privilege, and "don't seem to have any breakpoints," though some conservatives like former New Jersey governor Chris Christie have warned Trump "will get impeached" if he goes that route.
For example, Texas senator John Cornyn reiterated "there's no evidence of collusion" against Trump, calling the talk of pardons "a distraction because I don't think it will happen."
Academics remain divided about the constitutionality of a presidential self-pardon.
In general, the president has broad authority to pardon federal crimes. But a 1974 Justice Department memo on the question of whether president Richard Nixon could pardon himself was met with a resounding no, on the grounds that "no one may be a judge in his own case."
"The president is probably correct," says George Washington University constitutional legal scholar Jonathan Turley.
While the argument against "self-dealing" has been made, Turley's view is that past presidents have already engaged in using those powers for their benefit, including Trump's "open nepotism" for appointing his family members to White House staff, and president Bill Clinton pardoning his own half-brother, Roger, for a cocaine possession and drug-trafficking conviction.
Although Turley believes Trump can self-pardon, he says doing so would be impeachable and arguably an abuse of authority that legislators wouldn't stand for, especially if Democrats regain control of both chambers of Congress following upcoming midterm elections.
"If President Trump were to grant himself a self-pardon, it would be arguably the most ignoble moment in the history of the American presidency," Turley says. "But certainly, it would also be self-defeating."
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