David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Doucet of SANB said somebody at the attorney general's office gave a Constitutional 101 course to some politicians in Fredericton Methinks Gauvin made a deal N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/01/doucet-of-sanb-said-somebody-at.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ambulance-flemming-lord-compromise-1.4988700
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David Amos, Jan 23, 11:03 AM EST
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 12:02:57 -0400
Subject: Methinks I have a pretty good idea as to who Marguerite Deschamps the
other SANB spin doctor in CBC is Nesy Pas Mr Higgs?
To: Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca, pablo.rodriguez@parl.gc.ca,
sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca
premier@gnb.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, robert.gauvin@gnb.ca,
Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
serge.rousselle@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca, Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca,
megan.mitton@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca, rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca,
michelle.conroy@gnb.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca,
Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca,
Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca,
Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com,
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, steve.murphy@ctv.ca,
Newsroom@globeandmail.com, news@kingscorecord.com,
news@dailygleaner.com, news919@rogers.com, Michel.Carrier@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Marc.Martin@nserc-crsng.gc.ca,
jesse@viafoura.com, marc.martin@snb.ca, darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca,
support@viafoura.zendesk.com
Perhaps your lawyers should go Figure how Deschamps wrote this in CBC
before the lawyer Doucet said it on CBC N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Marguerite Deschamps
Like many other lawyers, Flemming had to be schooled by the experts on
sections 16 to 20 of the Constitution and thereby revise his
unconstitutional position.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
"I believe that somebody at the attorney general's office gave a
Constitutional 101 course to some politicians in Fredericton,
explaining that they can't just modify the Canadian Constitution and
decide not to follow the Official Languages Act based on some whim
they say in public," Doucet said.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:32:21 +0000
> Subject: RE: I must say the SANB spin doctors had lots to say about
> Auditor General Kim MacPherson's annual report while CBC blocked me
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:03:11 +0000
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David Amos, Jan 23, 11:03 AM EST
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 12:02:57 -0400
Subject: Methinks I have a pretty good idea as to who Marguerite Deschamps the
other SANB spin doctor in CBC is Nesy Pas Mr Higgs?
To: Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca, pablo.rodriguez@parl.gc.ca,
sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca
premier@gnb.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, robert.gauvin@gnb.ca,
Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
serge.rousselle@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca, Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca,
megan.mitton@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca, rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca,
michelle.conroy@gnb.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca,
Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca,
Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca,
Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com,
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, steve.murphy@ctv.ca,
Newsroom@globeandmail.com, news@kingscorecord.com,
news@dailygleaner.com, news919@rogers.com, Michel.Carrier@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Marc.Martin@nserc-crsng.gc.ca,
jesse@viafoura.com, marc.martin@snb.ca, darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca,
support@viafoura.zendesk.com
Perhaps your lawyers should go Figure how Deschamps wrote this in CBC
before the lawyer Doucet said it on CBC N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Marguerite Deschamps
Like many other lawyers, Flemming had to be schooled by the experts on
sections 16 to 20 of the Constitution and thereby revise his
unconstitutional position.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
"I believe that somebody at the attorney general's office gave a
Constitutional 101 course to some politicians in Fredericton,
explaining that they can't just modify the Canadian Constitution and
decide not to follow the Official Languages Act based on some whim
they say in public," Doucet said.
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From: "Martin, Marc (SNB)" <Marc.Martin@snb.ca>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 21:03:19 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Marc Martin I left you a voicemail
yesterday and no response So now I ask in writng how did the SANB spin
doctor in CBC named Marc Martin know I had contacted you?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Je serai absent du bureau le 18 janvier. Pour des questions de
traduction, veuillez communiquer avec Karine Arseneau par téléphone au
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From: "Martin,Marc" <Marc.Martin@nserc-crsng.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:23:00 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Marc Martin I left you a voicemail yesterday and no
response So now I ask in writng how did the SANB spin doctor in CBC
named Marc Martin know I had contacted you?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Cc: "Frappier,Stéphane" <Stephane.Frappier@nserc-
Hello Mr. Amos,
As per our conversation in November 2018, I can confirm that I am not
the individual that has been in communication with you through the CBC
website blogs.
I would ask that you stop communicating with me, as your contacts are
unwelcomed.
I have copied the director of security of our agency as an FYI.
Thank you,
Marc Martin
Senior Program Operations Officer | Administrateur principal des
opérations de programme
Budget and Technical Support - Scholarships | Budget et support
technique – Bourses
Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada | Conseil
de recherches en sciences naturelles et en génie du Canada
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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:03 PM
To: Catherine.Tait; pablo.rodriguez; sylvie.gadoury; Alex.Johnston;
pm; premier; Gerald.Butts; blaine.higgs; robert.gauvin;
Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc; brian.gallant; serge.rousselle; David.Coon;
Arseneau, Kevin (LEG); Mitton, Megan (LEG); kris.austin;
rick.desaulniers; michelle.conroy; Larry.Tremblay; Gilles.Blinn;
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Cc: David Amos; Martin,Marc; jesse; marc.martin; darrow.macintyre;
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Subject: Attn Marc Martin I left you a voicemail yesterday and no
response So now I ask in writng how did the SANB spin doctor in CBC
named Marc Martin know I had contacted you?
From: "Martin, Marc (SNB)" <Marc.Martin@snb.ca>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 21:03:19 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Marc Martin I left you a voicemail
yesterday and no response So now I ask in writng how did the SANB spin
doctor in CBC named Marc Martin know I had contacted you?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Je serai absent du bureau le 18 janvier. Pour des questions de
traduction, veuillez communiquer avec Karine Arseneau par téléphone au
726-2360 ou par courriel à l'adresse Karine.Arseneau@snb.ca.
I will be away from the office on January 18th. For
translation-related questions, please contact Karine Arseneau at
726-2360 or by email at Karine.Arseneau@snb.ca.
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From: "Martin,Marc" <Marc.Martin@nserc-crsng.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:23:00 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Marc Martin I left you a voicemail yesterday and no
response So now I ask in writng how did the SANB spin doctor in CBC
named Marc Martin know I had contacted you?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Cc: "Frappier,Stéphane" <Stephane.Frappier@nserc-
Hello Mr. Amos,
As per our conversation in November 2018, I can confirm that I am not
the individual that has been in communication with you through the CBC
website blogs.
I would ask that you stop communicating with me, as your contacts are
unwelcomed.
I have copied the director of security of our agency as an FYI.
Thank you,
Marc Martin
Senior Program Operations Officer | Administrateur principal des
opérations de programme
Budget and Technical Support - Scholarships | Budget et support
technique – Bourses
Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada | Conseil
de recherches en sciences naturelles et en génie du Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:03 PM
To: Catherine.Tait; pablo.rodriguez; sylvie.gadoury; Alex.Johnston;
pm; premier; Gerald.Butts; blaine.higgs; robert.gauvin;
Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc; brian.gallant; serge.rousselle; David.Coon;
Arseneau, Kevin (LEG); Mitton, Megan (LEG); kris.austin;
rick.desaulniers; michelle.conroy; Larry.Tremblay; Gilles.Blinn;
jan.jensen; Nathalie.Drouin; hon.ralph.goodale; Brenda.Lucki; mcu;
Jody.Wilson-Raybould; David.Lametti; andrea.anderson-mason; oldmaison;
andre; Jacques.Poitras; steve.murphy; Newsroom; news; news; news919;
Michel.Carrier
Cc: David Amos; Martin,Marc; jesse; marc.martin; darrow.macintyre;
support@viafoura.zendesk.com
Subject: Attn Marc Martin I left you a voicemail yesterday and no
response So now I ask in writng how did the SANB spin doctor in CBC
named Marc Martin know I had contacted you?
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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:04:46 +0000
Subject: [Request received] I must say the SANB spin doctors had lots
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> blocked me AGAIN N'esy Pas/
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Brian (LEG)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:32:21 +0000
> Subject: RE: I must say the SANB spin doctors had lots to say about
> Auditor General Kim MacPherson's annual report while CBC blocked me
> AGAIN N'esy Pas/
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> Province sets deadline for signal the Francophonie Games can be saved
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
> Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin Davis ? I mean you
> have contacted two others lol.
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
> Are you talking to me Davis or one of the other Marc Martin ?
>
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @Marguerite Deschamps
> *I don't even have a HEALTH CARE CARD *
>
> He should have one, its not normal to think there is only one Marc
> Martin across Canada....
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
> Come one Davis you know who you are.
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @Mario Doucet
> *SANB is playing with fire and could get burned.*
>
> It makes me laugh when you target a non-for profit organization with
> no power only because it French.
>
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
> Your making no sense again Davis...
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
> Uh Oh Libel right there Davis !!!
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
> *Methinks when your lawyer read my lawsuit he would know that I was
> barred from the Highland Games in Fat Fred City in 2015 N'esy Pas?*
>
> Lawyers ? I think you have the wrong Marc Martin, try the other 2.
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @cheryl wright
> *we are absolutely going to riot in the streets.. I will lead us*
>
> I don't find that hard to believe, you where part of the anti-French
> rally's in Fredericton..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> stephen blunston
> cancel these gamers already NB can not afford them to begin with even
> if it was only 10 million, the organisers didn't not give an honest
> assessment of costs when they planned it so NB should give zero extra
> dollars take the organserr to court and sue them for lying period . if
> higgs caves and offer more he is done .. time to stop all the welfare
> for these types of events the oraganisers and the holders of games
> whether it is the francaphonie games or Olympic walk away with a lot
> of cash leaving the taxpayers the bills it is not right and needs to
> end now« less
>
>
> David R. Amos
> Content disabled.
> @stephen blunston "NB should give zero extra dollars take the
> organserr to court and sue them for lying period"
>
> I wholeheartedly agree
>
>
> David R. Amos
> @stephen blunston Methinks it is strange to be blocked for merely
> agreeing with you N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
>
> *Methinks it is strange to be blocked for merely agreeing with you N'esy
> Pas?*
>
> If it was for me you would be completely banned.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> McKenzie King
> Not sure why we need special games for people just because they speak
> a certain language. NB is broke. It doesn't have two nickles to rub
> together or a pot to p**s in, yet we are expected to spend money on
> this foolishness. If we have to spend money we don't have, let's spend
> it on something useful, not on something to support differences in
> people because of the language they speak.
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @McKenzie King
>
> *Not sure why we need special games for people just because they speak
> a certain language*
>
> Anyone could participate in these games regardless of their language...
>
>
> David R. Amos
> @Marc Martin Methinks not just anyone is making money off of this
> francophonie nonsense N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Shawn McShane
> @Marc Martin Au contraire mon frere .
>
> Only for New Brunswickers and Canadians, the ones on the hook if this
> boondoggle goes ahead.
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @Shawn McShane
>
> What does this comment have to do with mine ??
>
>
> David R. Amos
> @Marc Martin Methinks even you must understand that the dude is making
> fun of you because the government supported SANB spin doctors have
> become irrelevant N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
>
> I have no idea what your talking about, maybe the 2 other Marc Martin
> would know you should contact them lol.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Craig O'Donnell
> Whether it's federal dollars or provincial, it's still taxpayers
> footing the bill, and I doubt taxpayers in Alberta or Saskatchewan are
> much interested in paying for games that have no benefit for them.
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @Craig O'Donnell
>
> They didn't complain when the Feds gave the Pan-Am game in Ontario 2 Billion
> ?
>
>
> Shawn McShane
> @Marc Martin There is a lesson to learn from games: Two Ontario mayors
> are calling on Toronto to pick up the tab for cost overruns from the
> Pan Am Games. Ontario's auditor general said Wednesday the games came
> in $342 million over budget, with more than $5 million being spent on
> performance bonuses...Sarnia Mayor Mike Bradley has long opposed
> funding the games, calling the event a "tremendous waste."
>
>
> David R. Amos
> @Marc Martin Methinks nobody believes you N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
>
> Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin Davis ? I mean you
> have contacted two others lol.
>
>
> David R. Amos
> @Marc Martin Methinks everybody know who you are by now N'esy Pas?
>
>
> Marc Martin
> @David R. Amos
>
> I think your the only one who thinks knows who I am...
>
>
> David R. Amos
> @Marc Martin Methinks even you must understand about IP addresses N'esy
> Pas?
>
>
>
> On 1/16/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> https://davidraymondamos3.
>>
>>
>> Tuesday, 15 January 2019
>>
>> Methinks many folks would agree that Robert Gauvin and Dominic Leblanc
>> deserve each other
>>
>> https://twitter.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
>> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
>> Methinks many folks would agree that Robert Gauvin and Dominic Leblanc
>> deserve each other and would easily understand why I am honoured that
>> they both hate me as well N'esy Pas?
>>
>>
>> #nbpoli #cdnpoli
>>
>>
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>
>>
>> Province sets deadline for signal the Francophonie Games can be saved
>> Cost of games ballooned to $130 million from $17 million
>> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jan 15, 2019 2:08 PM AT
>>
>>
>>
>> Your account has been banned permanently. Reason: Your account has
>> been blocked due to comments that could be construed as 'hate speech'
>> which is against our Submission Guidelines. For more information,
>> please visit: http://www.cbc.ca/aboutcbc/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
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>> <mcu@justice.gc.ca>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:18:45 +0000
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How a former PC premier helped forge the Higgs government's ambulance compromise
Medavie CEO Bernard Lord key to new Ambulance New Brunswick policy
A
phone call the day before Christmas from Health Minister Ted Flemming
to a former Progressive Conservative premier opened the door to solving a
thorny political dilemma involving language rights and health care.
Flemming made the call less than a week after his brusque performance at a news conference announcing a new directive that Ambulance New Brunswick weaken bilingual hiring requirements for paramedics.
At that Dec. 18 announcement, the minister dismissed questions about constitutionally protected language rights as "some academic discussion of the legal nuances" and said francophones who need ambulances in anglophone regions "don't live in a perfect world."
That provoked alarm, and talk of lawsuits, among francophones. The province and its new Progressive Conservative government seemed destined for a protracted legal and political confrontation over bilingualism.
Six
days later, Flemming called Bernard Lord, the former premier whose
government passed the 2002 Official Languages Act and who is now CEO of
Medavie, the company that administers Ambulance New Brunswick.
"He was seeking improvements to what was in place," Lord recalled. "He had a clear objective. And based on that conversation, we agreed to have more conversations. He included other people in that conversation."
One of those other people was Michel Carrier, the acting commissioner of official languages, who had warned publicly that Flemming's solution would violate the legal requirement for services "of equal quality" in both languages throughout the province.
Carrier said when he heard from Flemming early in January, the minister was no longer using the combative tone of his Dec. 18 news conference.
Michel
Carrier, the acting commissioner of official languages, met with Health
Minister Ted Flemming after his combative Dec. 18 news conference. (Radio-Canada)
"Minister
Flemming did not have an adversarial approach," Carrier recalled. "He
said to me, 'I think I understand the concerns and we can fix this.
Let's see if we can put something together to fix it.'"
Soon the three men were working together to replace the provocative Dec. 18 directive.
Carrier said Lord's experience as premier was key to the eventual solution.
"He
is well aware of language rights, how they have been interpreted by the
courts, what they mean to New Brunswick and what they mean to both
linguistic communities," Carrier said.
Navigating the politics of bilingual ambulance service has been perilous for the Tories, who are governing without a majority in the legislature.
They've been relying on the support of the three MLAs from the People's Alliance. It demanded that the province implement a 2018 labour ruling by arbitrator John McEvoy that found seniority rights of non-permanent unilingual paramedics were being violated when they weren't placed in vacant bilingual positions.
The Alliance wanted unilingual paramedics hired to fill vacant, designated-bilingual positions for which there were no bilingual candidates.
Premier
Blaine Higgs' minority government has been relying on the support of
the three MLAs from the People's Alliance, who demanded the province
implement the John McEvoy ruling. (CBC)
In
December, Flemming told Ambulance New Brunswick to comply with McEvoy's
suggestion of bypassing the bilingualism requirement in regions where
there is less demand for second-language service, which Carrier quickly
labelled contrary to the law.
Carrier said when Flemming called him the following month and asked for help, he agreed immediately.
The negotiations came to a head in a meeting at Medavie's Moncton head office on Jan. 11, attended by Carrier, Flemming, Lord, Ambulance New Brunswick CEO Richard Losier and Deputy Premier Robert Gauvin.
"It's
not easy to find a solution that works," Lord said, "that is better for
everyone, that improves the services for people, that is offered in
both official languages, improves working conditions, and that is
acceptable to all political parties, and acceptable to the languages
commissioner and acceptable to the workers."
The five men developed a plan that became Flemming's Jan. 18 letter to Medavie. Lord said it "supersedes" the earlier Dec. 18 directive.
It replaces the relaxing of hiring requirements with a new model: a "float team" of unilingual paramedics in permanent, full-time positions who will fill bilingual-designated positions until a bilingual paramedic can be found.
The solution plugs holes in the system, maintains a commitment to eventually having at least one bilingual paramedic on every ambulance crew, and means permanent, full-time jobs for unilingual paramedics.
While
the compromise doesn't go as far as implementing the arbitrator ruling,
People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said 'the outcome's the same.' (CBC)
That
last point was key to winning the support of Alliance Leader Kris
Austin, who met with Flemming several times. Austin said Tuesday that
even the province abandoning the McEvoy proposal, his goals have been
met.
"The outcome's the same," Austin said. "If I were in government today, I would have implemented McEvoy's ruling without hesitation. However, in a minority government, it gets back to give and take.
"But
the objective is the same: unilingual paramedics will be receiving
permanent full-time work which means there are more boots on the
ground."
He shrugged off Flemming's letter that says the goal remains that "every emergency 911 ambulance unit be a bilingual unit."
While Austin said the outcome is the same, Lord said the two directives are very different. The new version respects the law because "the bilingual positions remain bilingual" even if they are temporarily filled with unilingual "float" paramedics.
Lord's comments this week were the first time he has spoken to reporters since Flemming's Dec. 18 announcement. During those four weeks, Medavie refused to say how or even whether it would implement the weaker hiring standards.
Michel Doucet, a retired University of Moncton law professor and an expert on language rights, said Lord "certainly played a very important role in having the government modify its position. … He certainly has a good knowledge of the obligations under that act."
Doucet also believes Thursday's scheduled judicial review of the McEvoy decision forced the province to reconsider its position.
A
judicial review is scheduled Thursday to determine if McEvoy's ruling
violated the language law and Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees
of bilingual government services in New Brunswick. (Radio-Canada/Guy R. LeBlanc)
The
judicial review Thursday was sought by the previous Liberal government
to determine if McEvoy's ruling violated the language law and Charter of
Rights and Freedoms guarantees of bilingual government services in New
Brunswick.
"I believe that somebody at the attorney general's office gave a Constitutional 101 course to some politicians in Fredericton, explaining that they can't just modify the Canadian Constitution and decide not to follow the Official Languages Act based on some whim they say in public," Doucet said.
Doucet
said Monday's announcement brings the situation back to when Ambulance
New Brunswick was created in 2008, with the organization setting
bilingual service as its goal but with obstacles to getting there.
Flemming was not available to comment on his new directive, but Lord said it's the minister who deserves the credit for making the initial phone calls. "He decided to bring us together," Lord said.
Flemming made the call less than a week after his brusque performance at a news conference announcing a new directive that Ambulance New Brunswick weaken bilingual hiring requirements for paramedics.
At that Dec. 18 announcement, the minister dismissed questions about constitutionally protected language rights as "some academic discussion of the legal nuances" and said francophones who need ambulances in anglophone regions "don't live in a perfect world."
That provoked alarm, and talk of lawsuits, among francophones. The province and its new Progressive Conservative government seemed destined for a protracted legal and political confrontation over bilingualism.
"He was seeking improvements to what was in place," Lord recalled. "He had a clear objective. And based on that conversation, we agreed to have more conversations. He included other people in that conversation."
Aftermath of combative announcement
One of those other people was Michel Carrier, the acting commissioner of official languages, who had warned publicly that Flemming's solution would violate the legal requirement for services "of equal quality" in both languages throughout the province.
Carrier said when he heard from Flemming early in January, the minister was no longer using the combative tone of his Dec. 18 news conference.
Soon the three men were working together to replace the provocative Dec. 18 directive.
Carrier said Lord's experience as premier was key to the eventual solution.
Perilous political footing
Navigating the politics of bilingual ambulance service has been perilous for the Tories, who are governing without a majority in the legislature.
They've been relying on the support of the three MLAs from the People's Alliance. It demanded that the province implement a 2018 labour ruling by arbitrator John McEvoy that found seniority rights of non-permanent unilingual paramedics were being violated when they weren't placed in vacant bilingual positions.
The Alliance wanted unilingual paramedics hired to fill vacant, designated-bilingual positions for which there were no bilingual candidates.
Carrier said when Flemming called him the following month and asked for help, he agreed immediately.
It's not easy to find a solution that works, that is better for everyone.- Bernard Lord, CEO of Medavie"The commissioner's role is to advise the government," Carrier said. "We can do it in public or we can do it behind the scenes. I've always believed the way to move things forward is to have frank discussions with the key players."
The negotiations came to a head in a meeting at Medavie's Moncton head office on Jan. 11, attended by Carrier, Flemming, Lord, Ambulance New Brunswick CEO Richard Losier and Deputy Premier Robert Gauvin.
The compromise
The five men developed a plan that became Flemming's Jan. 18 letter to Medavie. Lord said it "supersedes" the earlier Dec. 18 directive.
It replaces the relaxing of hiring requirements with a new model: a "float team" of unilingual paramedics in permanent, full-time positions who will fill bilingual-designated positions until a bilingual paramedic can be found.
The solution plugs holes in the system, maintains a commitment to eventually having at least one bilingual paramedic on every ambulance crew, and means permanent, full-time jobs for unilingual paramedics.
"The outcome's the same," Austin said. "If I were in government today, I would have implemented McEvoy's ruling without hesitation. However, in a minority government, it gets back to give and take.
He shrugged off Flemming's letter that says the goal remains that "every emergency 911 ambulance unit be a bilingual unit."
If I were in government today, I would have implemented McEvoy's ruling without hesitation.- People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin"It's an unreasonable goal, but if that's what they want to put on paper, have at it," Austin said.
While Austin said the outcome is the same, Lord said the two directives are very different. The new version respects the law because "the bilingual positions remain bilingual" even if they are temporarily filled with unilingual "float" paramedics.
Upcoming judicial review
Lord's comments this week were the first time he has spoken to reporters since Flemming's Dec. 18 announcement. During those four weeks, Medavie refused to say how or even whether it would implement the weaker hiring standards.
Michel Doucet, a retired University of Moncton law professor and an expert on language rights, said Lord "certainly played a very important role in having the government modify its position. … He certainly has a good knowledge of the obligations under that act."
Doucet also believes Thursday's scheduled judicial review of the McEvoy decision forced the province to reconsider its position.
"I believe that somebody at the attorney general's office gave a Constitutional 101 course to some politicians in Fredericton, explaining that they can't just modify the Canadian Constitution and decide not to follow the Official Languages Act based on some whim they say in public," Doucet said.
Flemming was not available to comment on his new directive, but Lord said it's the minister who deserves the credit for making the initial phone calls. "He decided to bring us together," Lord said.
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