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Methinks all the
clowns are way too fat dumb and happy riding on the gravy train in
Higgy's circus Hence its High Time to drop the writ N'esy Pas? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-four-party-deal-meeting-continue-1.5684055
Premier Higgs warns little flexibility on Friday deadline to avoid fall election
Liberal leader Kevin Vickers wants deadline extended for negotiations
· CBC News · Posted: Aug 12, 2020 8:41 PM AT
Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers is arguing for a new deadline to reach an agreement. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Talks will continue Thursday on a possible four-party deal that would avert an early provincial election in New Brunswick.
But Premier Blaine Higgs warned after a first day of discussions that he won't be very flexible on a Friday deadline to reach an agreement.
"I have to feel that there's progress here, that there's a willingness to not just delay the process," he said when asked about a Liberal proposal to extend the deadline to Sept. 15.
"If I have that comfort, then we can look at that. But if I don't, I'm looking at a window here: we'd say if we're going to have an election, we're not going to keep talking about this for the next month, or two weeks, or three weeks."
Higgs sent a letter to the three opposition parties Monday asking them to agree to avoid forcing an early election until the scheduled date in October 2022 or until the COVID-19 pandemic is over.
If I can sense that interest, and today was a good start, then okay, I'm saying we can move the window a bit.
- Premier Blaine HiggsHiggs has been hinting for weeks that he would trigger a campaign, justifying the threat by saying the province needs stability to manage the pandemic and continue restarting the economy.
The agreement would include a promise by the other parties to not defeat the Progressive Conservative minority government on confidence and supply votes such as the budget and trigger a campaign.
In return, Higgs, whose approval ratings in polls have been at record highs, would also not call an election until 2022.
But Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said Wednesday the Friday deadline for an agreement is too soon. People's Alliance leader Kris Austin told reporters he agreed.
Higgs said he could budge a little on that, but not a lot.
"I've always liked deadlines and targets," he said, but "I have to be satisfied that there's a path forward here" in the coming days. "If I can sense that interest, and today was a good start, then okay, I'm saying we can move the window a bit.
"But if I can't see that and I can't see the willingness to really making groundbreaking changes, then … all I'm doing then is I might be the victim of someone saying 'we'll prolong this as long as we can."
Three hour meeting good first step
Vickers, Austin and Green Party leader David Coon, along with members of their teams, all filed into the sixth-floor cabinet room in Chancery Place at 3 p.m. Wednesday for the start of the discussions.The three hours of talks were aimed at laying out an agenda for more substantive negotiations Thursday and Friday on policy and budgets.
"The meeting today was very high-level," Vickers said. "The atmosphere was very conducive to good discussions and I believe they were very positive overall."
'No blood drawn'
On Monday Vickers declared the premier's offer "the right decision at this time," but Wednesday morning he posted a video on social media saying the Liberals would not give Higgs "unlimited power" and would not compromise on core party values.In a prepared text given to reporters of his opening remarks in the meeting, Vickers proposed a much shorter-term guarantee of no election, lasting to March 31, 2021, or "a mutually agreed date."
Premier Blaine Higgs says he's open to discussions, but needs to see real progress before he'd move the deadline beyond Friday. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
He also asked Higgs for more specifics on how other parties would help set the agenda in the legislature and how they would resolve disagreements about how to interpret the deal.
At the end of the meeting he would not discuss in detail whether those concerns had been addressed, repeating several times that Wednesday's talks were "high level."
"I feel like everyone is at this point quite interested in trying to reach an agreement," Coon said. "No one wants an election and everyone wants to see better collaboration."
Austin said the talks "should give all New Brunswickers some hope. The first day, I think, went well."
He said the talks were candid but collegial. "There was no blood drawn, I can say that," he added.
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David Amos
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Methinks all the
clowns are way too fat dumb and happy riding on the gravy train in
Higgy's circus Hence its High Time to drop the writ N'esy Pas? "I feel like everyone is at this point quite interested in trying to reach an agreement," Coon said. "No one wants an election and everyone wants to see better collaboration."
David Amos
Methinks Mr Gauvin should be waiting with bated breath to see who his old buddy Higgy offers cabinet positions to N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks somebody showed his cards out of the gate N'esy Pas?
"Vickers proposed a much shorter-term guarantee of no election, lasting to March 31, 2021, or "a mutually agreed date.""
Tim Trites
with the exception of me of course, aint sure if theres a critter on earth stupider than a CBC commentator on NB politics
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Trites:
Methinks the critters who are dumber than the rest of us are called
politicians and political scientists N'esy Pas?
Tim TritesReply to @David Amos:
i do have to eat my hat on that one, cause i like Jacques Poitras' reporting...and it was reporting not commentary. one too many sodas last night
Lou Bell
Has Vickers ever been told about the undisclosed 130 million dollar giveaway his party had plannned on hitting NB taxpayers with , AFTER being elected in 2018 ?? Doubt it !
Buford Wilson
(Kevin is not a detail guy, Lou.)
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell:
And actually why the few who run the party hand picked him as leader ?
It sure wasn't for his experience !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you must enjoy flogging dead horses N'esy Pas?
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou Bell: Higgs sayin grow truth Tchu! Pea toi oh see!
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Buford Wilson: I don't consider $130 million of taxpayer's money to be a "detail" Buford!
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Curious Lou, while I know it's your favourite mantra what would that
have to do with anything In this article?
Buford Wilson
Blaine is in full control of the situation.
Kevin knows that the Liberals will be crushed in an election.
David Amos
Reply to @Buford Wilson: The Fat Lady ain't sung yet
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Unless it turns out Buford T Justice is in reality a fat lady?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Just like Lou?
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Buffoon Wilson: Higgs is full of himself
... like big fat Lou Dumbell!
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Oh My My Do I see a tell?
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Buford Wilson: If that is the case why not just call the election?
James Smythe
This is the same Premier who wanted to close 6 emergency rooms throughout the province from midnight to 8am before the pandemic broke out.
The same Premier who in response to George Floyd’s extrajudicial murder wanted to grant the police power to card innocent citizens without probable cause.
The same Premier who only commented on the massive job losses in New Brunswick due to his overly aggressive shutdowns once his former Irving employer announced layoffs.
And now he wants to remove opposition parties ability to hold his accountable, and claim our low case numbers as a result of his “policy” instead of just luck and demographic advantage.
In the name of all that’s holy let’s send this guy packing when this deal falls through.
Bud Gardiner
Reply to @James
Smythe: Here Here! He's been overstepping his boundaries as mentioned
and his arrogant power trip is outta control. Now if he isn't satisfied
with what he sees in this regard he "threatens" to take his ball and go
home. I say "go home but leave the ball." I'm ready to toss him out on
his ear and soon as this deal gets tossed.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Bud
Gardiner: He holds the power , not you . Like it or lump it . And What a
joke ! YOU'RE ready to toss him out on his ear !!! Good one Donald !
Lou Bell
Reply to @James
Smythe: Start packin' Jimmie ! Someones may be packin' but it won't be
Higgs ! I hear the Ozarks is great country for people of certain
messaging.
James Smythe
Reply to @Lou Bell:
I’m going to have to politely ask that you remove Blaine’s nether
regions from your mouth before speaking. I can’t make out what you’re
saying but for all the gagging and choking sounds.
Lou Bell
Reply to @James Smythe: Ah , messaging of your kind . Trump loves the uneducated .
Lou Bell
Reply to @James Smythe: No substance Jimmie .
Lou Bell
Reply to @James
Smythe: Choking and Gagging are ye ?? Try the Heimlich manoeuver , it
appears you may have a piece of meat caught in your throat !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: Or something !! Ewww !!!
Buford Wilson
(Blaine is the best premier we ever had, James.)
David Amos
WOW
Methinks I should feel honoured to be blocked when I see the nasty nonsense that is permitted N'esy Pas?
Methinks I should feel honoured to be blocked when I see the nasty nonsense that is permitted N'esy Pas?
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Bufoon Wilson: The worst Premier we ever had!
Steve Gordon
Reply to @Jos Allaire: No that honor is a two way tie between Shawn Graham and Brian Gallant.
David News
Do not give Higgs this agreement. If he wants a coalition that is fine, but that means that he as to come to agreement on all major pieces of legislation with all parties before it gets tabled. That he as to agree to exclude or include items the opposition want otherwise a non confidence vote could be held.
He is asking for an agreement that would prevent the opposition parties from forcing a non confidence vote.
Terrible idea to give into the the demands he is making. I say take the highway and given the temerity of the demand if he doesn't call an election force one at the first opportunity.
Jos Allaire
Reply to @David News:
His government has one foot in the grave and the other on on a banana
peel and Higgs wants to govern as if he had a majority. Imagine the
arrogance if he had a majority!
Stephen
Robertson
Reply to @Jos Allaire: highest approval rating in Canada, some banana peel.
Stephen
Robertson
Reply to @David News: he has done all that you want, might lead one to believe you just don't like Higgs???
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Stephen
Robertson: That was then, not now! And he has a minute minority to boot.
Not the time to be arrogant, like he is.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jos
Allaire: His poll ratings show otherwise ! Bring on the election ! The
SANB Liberals are gonna BIGLY for their UNDISCLOSED attempt at taking
130 million dollars from the provincial coffers and give to the 25 %
who endorse what they attempted !!!
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Lou Bell:
As we have seen, well, ok, maybe you weren't paying attention, votes do
not translate into seats. Mr Higgs could get EVERY vote in Saint John,
Moncton, and Fat Fred City, lots of votes, right? Too bad, so sad, not
enough seats.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Who said he could ? You suree weren't paying attention !
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Lou Bell:
It's a bluf.
It's a bluf.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Yup
David News
Reply to @Stephen Robertson: Not even close to doing what I would like, for that matter doing a number of really dumb things I dislike.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephen Robertson:
Approval rating or not, can he deliver the seats?
The north won't budge, once won the Greens tend to hold their seats, the only sniping he can hope for are the PANB seats that he controlled anyway.
Big win? I *think* not.
Approval rating or not, can he deliver the seats?
The north won't budge, once won the Greens tend to hold their seats, the only sniping he can hope for are the PANB seats that he controlled anyway.
Big win? I *think* not.
Stephen Robertson
Reply to @Jos Allaire: that then ?
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: And he is not getting Moncton.
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