Tuesday 20 April 2021

Wood has never been so valuable, so why aren't New Brunswick trees worth more?

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N.B. holds firm on royalty rates on Crown timber as Alberta, B.C. raise rates again

Alberta charging up to five times as much for Crown timber than New Brunswick

Timber royalties being charged to lumber companies in a number of provinces continue to rise in reaction to elevated prices for lumber, but the New Brunswick government is not budging yet from its decision to keep its royalty rates frozen at levels set six years ago by the former Liberal government of Brian Gallant.

On Tuesday, Alberta raised its fees on Crown softwood logs for large users to a record $166.63 per cubic metre, the sixth increase this year.   

The fees are more than five times the $31.09 New Brunswick is charging companies for a cubic metre of softwood saw logs, a rate numerous critics have challenged as a gift to industry given high prices the lumber the logs are made into are attracting.

Rick Doucett is president of the New Brunswick federation of woodlot owners and says it is not clear to him why the province is not making as much as it could from the wood it owns to fund services as other provinces are.

"The very least the government could do is get in the game and say we should be making some money here," said Doucett.

"It's staring them right in the face and for some reason, there's a real reluctance to act."

Alberta ties its timber royalties more closely to lumber markets than other provinces and it has been prospering mightily alongside lumber companies in the year long escalation of prices across North America .

Alberta's department of Agriculture and Forestry calculated the average North American market price for lumber in May was close to $1,940  per 1,000 board feet, nearly four times more than one year earlier. It then used that May price to set the royalty rate for June. 

   Rick Doucett, president of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners, says the province would make millions of dollars by raising timber royalties and make room for private sellers to charge more. (CBC)

At the new level, Alberta will be earning between $600 and $730 per 1,000 board feet from lumber made from its trees in June, depending on the size of logs harvested. New Brunswick earns about $137 on that quantity.

Depending on species and size, it generally requires between 3.5 and 4.4 cubic metres of softwood saw logs to produce 1,000 board feet of lumber, according to New Brunswick government documents. 


In April, B.C. Finance Minister Selina Robinson unveiled her first provincial budget. It showed the province earned nearly $300 million more in timber royalties than expected last year because of unexpectedly high lumber prices. (Mike McArthur/CBC)

Brock Mulligan of the Alberta Forest Products Association said in an interview last week prior to the new stumpage fees being set, that industry has no argument with the prices being charged by the province for its wood.

"Stumpage rates are very much responsive to prices in the market," said Mulligan. 

"It's a fair arrangement. Forest companies and the government of Alberta are partners in this industry and so both partners are getting their share."

Also raising its timber royalty rates in response to high lumber prices have been Ontario and British Columbia.

Last month, executives with Conifex Timber Inc. and West Fraser Timber Co. Ltd. both said on their quarterly financial conference calls that they were expecting to be charged an additional $30 per cubic metre in royalties for saw logs in British Columbia starting on July 1.

"We have estimated our delivered log costs in 2021 will be somewhere between 20 and 25 per cent higher than in the previous year [mostly] due to stumpage cost," Conifex president Ken Shields said during his May 11 call.

In the last fiscal year ended in March, British Columbia earned 39 per cent more in stumpage fees than originally budgeted, an additional $299 million as timber royalty rates increased through the year in a tracking of lumber prices.


Alberta lumber mills like Spray Lake Sawmills in Cochrane, Alta., have been paying record prices for Crown timber this year because it is making record amounts on products made from it. (Bryan Labby/CBC)

Timber royalties earned by New Brunswick did not budge at all during the last year and are projected to remain flat this year.

Mike Holland, natural resources minister in the Progressive Conservative government of Blaine Higgs, has said he prefers a "stable steady" stumpage rate for trees that does not rise and fall with lumber markets.   

He has not ruled out raising royalty rates on Crown-owned trees if lumber prices remain high but last month told reporters his department is not convinced yet those prices warrant charging industry more for trees.


Mike Holland, the New Brunswick natural resources and energy development minister, has said his department is not yet convinced higher lumber prices warrant charging industry more for trees. (CBC)

"We monitor this on a monthly basis," said Holland.   

"We're watching trends in the southern U.S. We're watching trends in the western part of Canada and we're looking at it all throughout and beyond. I can't put specific parameters on it, but in the past we have chosen to not lower stumpage rates with over a year's worth of data."

On Wednesday, Holland's office repeated that position but also warned that fluctuating stumpage rates would penalize private sellers of wood once lumber prices fall.

"If the cost of wood is to remain at these levels, long term, he [Holland] would re-examine the file," wrote department spokesperson Nick Brown in an email.

"Using commodity prices to determine timber royalty rates can result in am unbalanced situation with private woodlot owners."

But Doucett said the current situation is unbalanced for private sellers of wood. He contends the province's refusal to raise royalty rates is blocking private sellers from raising their own prices, and it makes no sense to him that the New Brunswick government is not making what it can from the lumber windfall.

"There's an opportunity here for everyone to make a little bit of money," said Doucett.

"But when you have the biggest supplier who isn't concerned about making money and competing directly with those that need to make money, the system doesn't work. I mean, the opportunity is standing right in front of the face, and if they don't act on it there's some reason why."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

 

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Emery Hyslop-Margison
Is there a line here somewhere when administrative incompetence becomes criminal patronage?Millions of dollars being funnelled from the people of New Brunswick and into the coffers of the Irvings. Shameful.







Al Clark
Rick is mystified eh? SURE he is! 2000 words of filler that could be summarized with one. AND 20 less ads and 50 less trackers. Wonder what the tj is saying???

    
Emery Hyslop-Margison

Reply to @Al Clark: Does anyone still read the TJ?


Al Clark
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Thousands still believe it's all the news.....






Al Clark
btw , rant all you want. What higgy and Holland are doing here IN PLAIN SIGHT is never going to change without ..........






David Lutz
Higgs wouldn't go against his boss.

   
Julie O'Toole
Reply to @David Lutz: That makes him a real sell out. 





George Smith
At least we know Higgs's former employers will never leave this province no matter what they say. Why would they? They have deals of a life time here and as we see it would cost them more to operate elsewhere in this Country. And of course our temporary Masters in Fredericton will probably be well compensated in their new jobs after their loss in the next Election.

 

 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/wood-prices-royalties-1.5993947


Wood has never been so valuable, so why aren't New Brunswick trees worth more?

Lumber prices have tripled in the last year but NB timber royalties paid by forestry companies haven't budged


Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Apr 20, 2021 5:00 AM AT 

 


A 10 foot long, heat treated and kiln dried two-by-four was selling for $12.35 in Saint John over the weekend, as lumber prices of all kinds hit record levels in North America. (Robert Jones / CBC News)

New Brunswick is receiving no extra royalties from forestry companies for trees cut on crown land this year, even though prices for lumber made from those trees are at record highs.

Meanwhile. other provinces are moving to claim some of that growing windfall for their taxpayers.

That points to a fundamental flaw in New Brunswick's timber royalty system according to Chris Spencer with the Southern New Brunswick Forest Products Marketing Board.

"If the value of the product is going to increase and you're fortunate enough to be sitting on some of that raw product you would expect that you would receive the benefit," said Spencer, who works on behalf of private woodlot owners in New Brunswick.

"It's unfortunate New Brunswick's system doesn't allow that."

Lumber markets this year have shocked experts and stunned consumers, posting record prices almost weekly.


Chris Spencer is general manager of the Southern New Brunswick Forest Products Marketing Board and says if lumber prices are at record highs, that should be reflected in the price of trees sold to forest companies by the province and private sellers.  (SNB Marketing Board)

 John Jarvis runs the Home Hardware in Grand Bay-Westfield and hears disbelief from customers hit with sticker shock regularly, 

"The increases haven't stopped," said Jarvis.

"Plywood in March 2020, we were selling it for $34.95.  April 2021 it's $95.95.  People who are used to buying a two-by-four for three and four dollars and they come in and its $8.50 are like 'What is going on?'"

It's been the same story in lumber markets across the continent.   

Low interest rates have fuelled a steady increase in North American housing starts since a brief collapse at the beginning of the pandemic, with home renovation projects also spiking among people stuck at home over the past year

According to Vancouver based Madison's Lumber Reporter, trading prices in kiln-dried eastern spruce, pine and fir two-by-fours shot up from $450 US per thousand board feet in most of 2019 to over $1,600 US this month. 


The price of a single three-quarter-inch spruce sheet of plywood passed $90 in Atlantic Canada last month, nearly triple prices from 2020.  (Paul Palmeter/CBC)

 "North American construction framing softwood lumber prices are reaching ever higher to the point most veteran industry players can't believe it," said Madison's in a report issued last week.

That has been tough on consumers, but a windfall for forestry companies, especially sawmills, which have been selling record amounts since last year.

A number of publicly traded Canadian forestry companies with significant sawmill divisions, like West Fraser Timber, Resolute Forest Products and Interfor Corporation all set share price records on the Toronto Stock Exchange this month.

In New Brunswick, sawmills have been upping production to meet demand and take advantage of high prices while they last.  According to Statistics Canada, New Brunswick sawmills produced 797 thousand cubic metres of softwood lumber cut from spruce, pine and fir trees between November and January, seven percent more than a year earlier. 


John Jarvis operates the Home Hardware in Grand Bay - Westfield and said lumber prices have been rising all year from both New Brunswick and out-of-province mills. (Facebook)

 In Alberta which ties timber royalties to the market prices of timber products, those record prices have also been generating record amounts of public revenue.

In the fiscal year ended March 31, Alberta reported timber royalties were $111 million over budget, more than double projections because, it said, of "North American lumber prices".

Alberta has raised timber fees and royalties even further in April in response to ongoing price increases in lumber markets.  

Spencer said private woodlot owners in New Brunswick, like the province, have received no increases in the price of wood they have been selling to mills this year and believes Alberta's model is something worth adopting for both the province and private sellers.

"They are benefiting from these surges, unlike New Brunswick," said Spencer.  


The Grand Bay - Westfield Home Hardware is still selling truckloads of lumber despite record prices, according to John Jarvis  (Facebook)

 In his budget last month, New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves took no action to address royalties and budgeted $65 million in crown timber revenue this year, unchanged from his first two budgets.

Asked why he would not raise more revenue from forest companies cutting on crown land, given the explosion in lumber prices, Steeves said that was an issue handled by the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development.

"I'll tell you the truth, I'm not familiar on that one," Steeves said about timber royalties during CBC's post-budget Political Panel.

No change, says DNR

In an email Monday, a spokesperson for Natural Resources said even though the price of lumber products has doubled and in some cases tripled over the last year, that does not mean trees the lumber comes from are more valuable and deserve higher "stumpage" rates.  

"The lumber market reacts to supply and demand factors across Canada and the US," wrote Nick Brown, in explaining why timber royalties in the province are not growing despite record prices for wood.. 

"The stumpage market, while very complex in its own right, is inherently local, and those prices reflect local demand and supply factors.  Because overall stumpage supply has remained generally constant and overall mill capacity has not increased, there has not been a significant increase to the demand or the supply of stumpage locally." 

Brown said timber royalties in New Brunswick also do not immediately react when lumber markets fall and suggested the province and private sellers of wood are better off under the current system.

"The Department does not use a similar approach (to Alberta) because timber royalties could result in prices lower than private woodlot owners in the province would be willing to sell their timber," he wrote.

Spencer disputes that and believes private sellers of New Brunswick timber and the province would be better off with prices and royalties that rise and fall in sync with free lumber markets.

"Here we are in New Brunswick with our most abundant natural resource and we're not receiving the financial benefits that other jurisdictions are receiving," said Spencer.

"There should be another way to divide up the economic pie."

 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

 

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Norman Albert Snr
Robert Jones For Premier!! I kid yo not. The only honest Jurno in this god forsaken province.
 
 
Rob Sense
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr:
he likes sensationalism...if it bleeds it leads school.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rob Franklin
It's price gouging and last time I checked, it's illegal.
 
 
James Christie
Reply to @Rob Franklin:
supply and demand.
 
 
Clive Gibbons
Reply to @James Christie: And the government is messing with the log supply side, by not charging fair market value for raw product.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Clive Gibbons: Stump-age fees have always been an issue here. Kept way too low for the Irving Profit mill. These people supporting the current system are feeding us crap. Leaving million$ on the table that we could certainly make good use of. Time for a big change.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @James Christie: WRONG...no sawmill closed during COVID19 try again.
 
 
Welly Smith 
Reply to @Welly Smith : So so true....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
George Smith 
Is this Higgs way of letting his former employers the Empire recoup the money they couldn't squeeze out of taxpayers with their higher gas prices? It's insane that the province can't even benefit from massively over priced lumber yet the Irving Empire gets richer as usual. Does any one actually think they would ever walk away from the deals they have in N.B.? Just threats.
 
 
Dotty Gaudet
Reply to @George Smith: This is all over North America. It's not just NB.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @George Smith: The empire did really well during last years Pandemic. James and Art did really well with a 33% increase. 3.2 Billion$
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps 
Those who voted for these clow ns got the government that they deserve.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Sad but we are all paying because of those who voted them in.
 
 
Jason Inness
Reply to @Marc Martin: The Liberals had four years to change the Alward forestry plan. They didn't. Liberal/Tory: same old story.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Jason Inness: Higgs with Alward created this forestry plan, now Higgs is in charge and still no change in place...PANB is not an option for ANY francophone so whats your advice?
 
 
James Christie
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
democracy in action.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @James Christie: Hardly a democracy when one family dictates policy on everything.
 
 
Johnny Jakobs 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: you sayin team red would be different?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jeff LeBlanc 
If a government could get the intestinal fortitude to start taxing Irving their fair share and rip up some of these bad lumber deals I don't think Irving would do a thing about it. They'd blow smoke, threaten to pull out but they won't. They are too ingrained in this province, closing the mills and refinery and moving elsewhere isn't an option for them. So why doesn't a government clamp down and push back and do the right thing? Political suicide is the answer. Shame.
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Irving is sweating right now. They are stuck with a soon to be obsolete refinery. Why do you think the Saudis went public with theirs (Aramko)?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Johnny Almar 
Raise the price of crown wood to fair market value through a process of calling for tenders to harvest timber on crown land. Private wood will follow. JD Irving has enough of their own wood to stifle competition. They’ve been masterful in tipping the system in their favour. I don’t blame them. They are a for profit business and it’s in their interest to maximize revenues and minimize expenditures.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Largest land owner in New England and fourth largest in the entire US. I doubt much of that is desert. (Yet)
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Here they don't need there mono-culture because they get our resources free or darn near it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Carlos Valderrama 
And still the Irving’s (JDI and Oil) got COVID relief money...what a joke
 
 
David Webb NB 
Reply to @Carlos Valderrama: As did a myriad of other corporations across this land. The feds blew another program by not thinking through consequences of their actions.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @David Webb NB: Blame Freeland/JT team for that. Be afraid. This cannot end well for tax payers. The more they get the less we can hope for down the road.
 
 
David Webb NB  
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: It will be a long road back, if there is a coming back.
 
 
Terry Malone  
Reply to @Carlos Valderrama: wow,didnt know that
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Layton Bennett
Imagine, a forestry policy that doesn't benefit the actual stakeholders(that's us) and only benefits a family of billionaires... in NB, no less. Shocking and unheard of.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @Layton Bennett: They increased their wealth by 33% last year( March to Sept). The construction industry here will not survive. Good for those who can wait it out (Kent's)
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Layton Bennett: You do realize there are other companies in NB who purchase wood off Crown land ??
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Lou Bell: Your point being? Who gets the lions share? There are days you make sense Lulu. Not many and this is not one of them.
 
 
Rob Sense 
Reply to @Lou Bell:
you realize that the by far biggest one pays for your pal St Blaine's pension. Gotta keep the spoon warm right Lou...ver?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
William Peters
65 million seems rather small, not even enough to make up for a fraction of the subsidies we give the Empire by allowing them to run their businesses through foreign tax havens. Let's perhaps speak of giving our resources away and being on the hook. Instead of negotiating with the Empire we see fit to gift them more crown land. In the end there will not be jobs left for those who think we are somehow banking something for the future now as we clear cut our way to irrelevance. It's not even a status quo maintaining position. It's willfully planning to end up with empty cupboards while running deficits. Every growth equation is running against us who make up the public sector.
 
 
David Webb NB  
Reply to @William Peters: I agree. Federal governments and their tax loopholes are a disgrace.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Demand and a drop in the tariffs has tripled the price of lumber here and in the US . Trump screwed the Canadian lumber industry for 4 years and our NB mills were hurt BIGLY by America's ignorant POTUS . Now that he's gone Canadian mills are reaping the benefits . For some here to call them greedy is being completely naive . Our lumber industry has been an important part of Canada's economy and it's great to see the industry reaping the rewards of American dollars for our manufactured product . It's no differenty than the stell / aluminum industry , agricultural products , as well as many others things produced in Canada . Whatever it be , the collateral damage will be higher prices for Canadians . Either we welcome the increase in exports , or someone else will do it and reap the benefits . Too many people here are so shortsighted that they fail to see this is a good thing for Canada and Canadian jobs .
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Lou Bell: You know that is not true Lulu. Irving was given preferential treatment on tariffs. The other mills were hit harder. The negotiator was only working for one client but we paid for it.
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lou Natick Bell: Why don't you like Trump? He's a spitting image of you and your idol Higgs.
 
 
Brandon Geldart 
Reply to @Lou Bell: producers are getting tariff money back. Every other Province in Canada pays their fair share for access to fiber. God forbid New Brunswickerd flourish.
 
 
Rob Sense 
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Textbook....Louvin Spoonful defection!!! what took you so long...fell asleep??
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Spenner
Go to public auctions for crown land stumpage. Go to the same system as Alberta. Go to anything but what we have today.....it’s pure corporate welfare.
You would think the have-not province of NB would be looking into any way to generate cash.
 
 
Jaime Lannister 
Reply to @David Spenner: It suits a certain company to pretend that this is a have not province and have our healthcare funded by health transfers instead of what they should be paying. Ottawa allows this. Ottawa gets c o n t r o l and to tell us that we need them, the company gets lower tax, and the people of NB get called l a z y and told that by Canada that they pay for us!
 
 
Norman Albert Snr  
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: Lowest Family income in the Country. 25% child poverty rate. You were saying?
 
 
Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: What does Ottawa have to do with how the empire conducts business in NB. The empire pays little or no property taxes which is entirely a provincial responsibility. Stumpage rates and crown land grants are all a provincial responsibility. The environment is a provincial responsibility and the environment has suffered greatly. NB has the tools to correct these wrongs. Don't blame this on Ottawa.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @David Spenner: It would only end the same way. Who could possibly bid against Irving with our tax dollars they have collect over the decades. It will and can only get worse. Money buys power. The more they have the less we can hope for.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Were you here when the Feds gave Irving $50M to shut down the saint John Dry Dock? Irving went shopping for smaller yards to buy up. Then they Fed them the open ended contract to build Navy Ships. How many are in the water and at what costs? One of Irving's son in laws was a Fed MP. That always helps.
 
 
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to @David Spenner: A have not Province with some of the wealthiest families in Canada. What is wrong with this picture?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jason Inness
The People's Alliance wanted to end the lumber agreement that was put in by Alward. They also wanted to make changes to the Forestry legislation to help put the preference on private woodlots instead of crown land. People still vote for the Irving parties. Until we change how we vote, we will always get the same result. Why do people think otherwise?
 
 
Jaime Lannister
Reply to @Jason Inness: Exactly! I'd even vote Liberal if the weren't so in love with abortion. Anything but these f a k e conservatives. The PA gets my vote
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Jason Inness: People do not want to vote for an anti-francophone party.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: 44 % of public servant positions are unilingual English, 45 % are Bilingual and 11% are Francophone only. Most positions are centralized between Fredericton, Saint-John and 
Moncton there is a need for bilingual positions.
 
 
Layton Bennett
Reply to @Marc Martin: So 56% are native francophones. The linguistic minority has the majority of the provincial civil servant positions, by a long shot.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Jason Inness: The Irving Control over media in this province allows them to paint each party(independent) as they deem fit. That leaves only two contenders Red or Blue.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marc Martin: Who painted it as anti anything? MSM and paid comm-enters.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marc Martin: Where # justify. Period. Communication devices serve to remove those barriers.
 
 
Tim Simmons
Reply to @Jason Inness: There's no such thing as Irving parties; it's just Irving. The PA would find them selves in the same situation, and likely worse given their fringe status.
 
 
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: Liberal or PC makes zero difference. They are both cut from the same cloth when it comes to the Empire. When the Empire says "Jump", they say "how high?".
 
 
Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Tim Simmons: You cannot know that Tim, but what we do know is that decade after decade of Blue or Red governments has not reigned in the Empire. In fact the Empire keeps getting more and more handouts and preferential treatment from those two parties. It would be foolish not to give Green or Purple a try.
 
 
Jason Inness
Reply to @Marc Martin: Well, I guess people should get used to carrying the Empire's financial burden, because voting red or blue gets us exactly what this story describes - a government that creates rules to benefit one family.
 
 
Jason Inness
Reply to @Tim Simmons: I understand. Then we keep throwing parties out until we find someone with a backbone. Voting for the Libs or PCs is getting us nowhere. People are not getting ahead, with the exception of a few.
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Fred Brewer: And the PA will be no different. I'd take my chances with the Greens, but then again. Do not rely on the government or anyone for anything. You're the only one who can help yourself.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: You don't stand a chance against this monopoly. They have a hand in everything including land purchases. Largest in New England and 4th largest in the entire US. Just a wild guess at what the own or control here.
Start as a small business and Irving is is more then willing to help. Once you build (with debt) they pull out or force you to play their game. LOw prices with 90 day payment schedule.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: PANB are anti-francophone thats a fact.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Communication translators do not work.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Layton Bennett: You think that all the bilingual position are filled out by francophones ? wow lol ....You must have voted PANB....
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Jason Inness: We can maybe vote NDP?
 
 
Jeff LeBlanc 
Reply to @Jason Inness: province of older folks who enjoy the status quo is my guess.
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jason Inness: Because thye Liberals are even worse !
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to @Marc Martin: They didn't vote for an Anti Anglophone party. Look at the last election ! 17 FRANCOPHONE Liberal SANB ridings . No more . Not then , not in the future . The 130 million dollar giveaway told all we need to know as to wqho controls and runs the Liberal party 
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marc Martin: SANB Liberals are anti Anglo . Just look at the UNDISCLOSED 130 million foor the Phonie Games . And the press is afraid to ask who knew !!
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marc Martin: : Wrong Son.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marc Martin: Wrong Son.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @Marc Martin: We can maybe vote NDP?

The ND ? what? Like they did in NS? Dexter was an embarrassment. Singh has potential though.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: So you don't have much to offer to any francophone in NB.
 
 
Fred Brewer  
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nobody can possibly know for certain how the Greens or Purples will govern. From my standpoint, voting Red or Blue has not worked for the people of NB during my entire lifetime (I am now retired), but it sure has worked for the Empire, who are one of the richest families in all of Canada.
 
 
Jason Inness
Reply to @Lou Bell: The Liberals may be worse, but as a province should we not be basing our decisions on something other than the party that is second worse? For my entire lifetime I have watched these two parties benefit their friends, benefit the Empire, and not even consider the consequences their bad decisions have on the majority of people. Forestry is a great example of this. Both the Libs and PCs allow poison to be sprayed. They give away crown timber at a rate that undercuts the private woodlot owners. They both allow the clear cutting of crown forest almost right to the edge of waterways (which enhances spring flooding). I understand more than just Irving is involved in forestry in NB, but they want all of these things. It doesn't matter if we breathe poison. It doesn't matter if we suffer floods more often, and more damaging. It doesn't matter if the province goes broke. To the Empire, we are just pests. 
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marc Martin: Both my Grand Mothers were Acadian. They both adapted to their environment in the south. I learn to speak French but lost it when they passed. Even then it was not good enough for French in St Louis de Kent. Military with the R22R did little to help with my education. There are issues on both sides.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Not all of francophones are Acadian you English people seem to mix these up.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marc Martin: But most Acadians are French. You tend to forget that. I have always had great respect for the French Culture. It is when it is forced on me for no good reason that I rebel. Live and let live. Vivre et laisser vivre.
 
 
Rob Sense 
Reply to @Lou Bell:
impossible
 
 
Rob Sense  
Reply to @Lou Bell:
there was not 130 million however you spoon buddy Higgs did give his bosses $28 million ... that is a fact!!!
 
 
Rob Sense  
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Not a penny was spent...much spooning from you was undisclosed however!
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: How is it forced on you ? I could say the same about your culture...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Buddy Best
Bob. To answer your question. James Irving increased personal wealth by $2.1 B last year while poor Art only increased his riches by $1.1B. It has to come from some where for these poor folks.
 
 
Jaime Lannister
Reply to @Buddy Best: Meanwhile they are happy for the rest of the country to tell us that we need their handouts. They trade the reputation of our province for a lower tax bill/for Ottawa to replace with transfers what they should be paying ! There's a reason that their properties fly giant Canadian flags. They know who it is that allows this to continue.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: We are a have not province because we allow the empire to dictate policy on everything including how the laws are applied.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jaime Lannister
Higgs saying the Atlantic bubble could be delayed again beyond May 3, but he still plans to open with Canada in May/June. I know this is not very Christian of me, but was he dropped on his head as a baby?  
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: How about you ? This is a story on lumber prices , not COVID.
 
 
Jaime Lannister
Reply to @Lou Bell: Lumber prices increasing from Covid, COVID, Irving, Higgs...it's all the same thing
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: No , the lumber prices have increased due to demand for lumber ! It has nothing to do with opening up the border !! What does opening up the border have to do with lumber prices ??? NOTHING !!!!
 
 
Jaime Lannister
Reply to @Lou Bell: Lumber prices have increased because people don't want to live in cities or apartments and are building homes. That's because of covid! d u h !
 
 
Buddy Best
Reply to @Jaime Lannister: LULU BELL is Higgs boy regardless of charges.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
The headline is a rhetorical question.   
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Of course it is. Greed!!!! Who has used crown land more than the Irving's while shutting out private lot owners in an effort to cripple them.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Barry George
Two words: Higgs-Irving.
 
 
Raymond Leger 
Reply to @Barry George: that's one word!
 
 
Tim Simmons
Reply to @Barry George: The 'Higgs' part of the equation is irrelevant. It should just be GNB-Irving. Same deal, different Premier.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @Tim Simmons: Never this obvious. People were warned. Fox in the Hen house.
 
 
 
 
 
 



N.B. lumber company sales during record price surge pass $1B

Refusal to raise Crown timber royalties by Higgs government continues to draw criticism


Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: May 19, 2021 7:07 AM AT




About half of the trees used by sawmills in New Brunswick to make lumber comes from trees cut on Crown land. But while lumber prices have tripled for consumers over the past year, royalty rates have not changed since July 2015. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

New Brunswick lumber companies rode escalating prices to another income record in March — but it's not all good news in the province's forest industry, as discontent over the price being paid for New Brunswick trees that lumber is made from continues to grow.

"It's very frustrating," said Linda Bell, who represents private sellers of wood in Carleton and Victoria counties. "It's absolutely ridiculous as far as I'm concerned."

Records compiled by Statistics Canada show sawmills and wood treatment facilities in New Brunswick earned $173.9 million on the production of lumber products in March, obliterating a 19-year-old earnings record for the month by more than $80 million.  

It also pushed the value of production of treated and untreated lumber in New Brunswick over $1 billion in just eight lucrative months stretching back to last August. That is $463 million higher than lumber operations, mostly sawmills, made during the same period one year earlier.

It just encourages a depressed marketplace.
- Linda Bell, representative for private wood sellers

It is an ongoing financial windfall for forestry companies. But private sellers of wood who compete with wood cut on Crown land to supply lumber mills complain that few of those hundreds of millions of new dollars are being shared with them, or taxpayers.  

Bell said New Brunswick's refusal to raise royalty rates on Crown timber during the bonanza, like other provinces are doing, is creating a ceiling on the price for trees that can be charged to mills by everyone else.

"It just encourages a depressed marketplace," said Bell.

"It's so sad … the nurses working their butts off, fighting for a little bit more money. Fighting to hire doctors. Fighting to hire nurses. And instead of supporting those systems, they're supporting industry."

Bell's argument is essentially the same one made two weeks ago by CIBC analyst Hamir Patel, who called New Brunswick logging company Acadian Timber an "under performer" for the low prices it has been getting selling wood to New Brunswick's booming sawmills.

"Log prices in New Brunswick have been sluggish due to the provincial government's perplexing decision to leave royalty rates on Crown timber unchanged for the past six years," Patel said in a statement.

"It seems like there's a landlord in the province that doesn't want to collect their rents."

By contrast softwood timber royalties in Alberta, which were below New Brunswick's one year ago, are now four times higher after increasing five months in a row to match increases in the price of lumber.

It's a price shadowing the Alberta government claims is important to ensure forest companies pay full value for what they use.



Lumber cut from Crown wood in Alberta this month is raising four times the royalty revenue than lumber cut in New Brunswick. (Colleen De Neve for CBC News)

"These charges ensure Albertans receive fair compensation for the use of publicly owned forest resources," the Alberta Department of Agriculture and Forestry said on its website.

N.B. stays course on Crown timber royalties

For the past two weeks New Brunswick Natural Resources and Energy Development Minister Mike Holland has been defending not raising royalty rates on trees like Alberta does despite record lumber prices.  

He said it's better to ride out highs and lows in commodity markets with a "stable, steady," royalty system that doesn't bottom out when prices plummet. 

He also said higher royalties collected by the province would hurt average buyers of lumber products although it is not clear how since lumber prices are set by open trading in commodity markets, not by local sawmills.

"Do you think for five seconds that if stumpage rates went up significantly, they would not be passed onto the consumer?" Holland said, during question period last week.

Bell calls that untrue "because lumber prices are set based on supply and demand globally," and argues no one will pay for higher royalties except forest companies. 

New Brunswick lumber companies themselves have said little during the debate and appear content to let Holland do the talking for them.

The largest forestry company in the region and fifth largest in Canada is J.D. Irving Ltd. It produces 1.2 billion board feet of lumber per year at its 10 sawmills, seven of which are in New Brunswick. 



J.D. Irving Ltd. is the largest forestry company in New Brunswick with headquarters in Saint John. It has seven sawmills in the province but is not weighing in on the debate over Crown timber royalties. It says it defers to the position taken by Natural Resources Minister Mike Holland. (Robert Jones/CBC)

J.D. Irving vice president of communications Anne McInerney declined direct comment on the royalty issue, writing she "will respectfully defer to the Minister's recent comments on the topic."

Last week in the Legislature New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs called the run-up in lumber prices a "blip in time" not worth responding to yet.

But Bell hopes the millions of extra dollars being earned daily by companies changes that view soon.

"We have a government that stands there and argues that the wood's not worth any more than it was in 2015," Bell said. "You know, it's ridiculous when you look at."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

 

 
103 Comments
C. 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Should be a new tax on your property if you have a sawmill.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
He's got the bandsaw owners happy too. They are getting double while irv is getting tripple,
 
 
Johnny Jakobs  
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: with a 4 month order time... ain't noone getting a mill anytime soon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Rootliek  
New Brunswick has a resource, called timber, on crown land. If demand is high and the lumber is flying out of the hardware store, then they should put up the stumpage fees. You are protecting the resource also, by saying, wait a minute, lets try to maintain the tree growth system in New Brunswick.

So did we lose 10 million, 50 million, or a 100 million that could have gone to schools or Hospitals. Interesting debate, but as usual, no movement from the Government.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Albert Dryden
The Irvings are engaging is Price Fixing, Racketeering, and Price Gouging.

They should be brought to Justice- either by the Courts, or by the People.

The People won't be so gentle.
 
 
Jos Allaire  
Reply to @Albert Dryden: They are all within the rules. They make the rules.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire  
The empire must be thinking that Higgs, Blaine, aka Moore Ron, is the best trained Premier they ever had. "Good dog, nice dog!"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Mike must be getting a pretty nice camp on the Restigouche for all this boot licking. A turkey in every pot.
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: At least they are collecting for that,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Wilson Rose
The pressure is on. Now we will find out if Higgs works for all of the citizens of New Brunswick or just one of them.
 
 
Johnny Jakobs  
Reply to @Wilson Rose: one of them? You mean that family from Bermuda?
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dwight Mullover 
It is probably time to get rid of the government and have Irving manage the province. Seems like they control most of NB anyway. It is too bad the government can't be sued for mismanaging our (public) resources. Just another example why Albertans pay no provincial taxes, while New Brunswicers are taxed excessively high.
 
 
 
 
 
Wendell Rourke  
Pure greed. That's all this is.
 
 
 
 
 
Rod Hill
A disgusting giveaway of public resources to powerful private interests. And all the government can offer are fallacious arguments that even a child could see through. As an earlier report had noted, the government actually reduced royalties when prices were low, although now they pretend that that didn't happen. Shameless.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
It is interesting, the vast majority voted for Higgs in the last election. Knowing full well that he was a Conservative, that he was pro business, against red tape and corporate taxes. That he would continue to nickel and dime the expense side of the ledger while helping the business community be more profitable. Why is anyone surprised.
He is simply doing what his party stands for and what the electorate voted for. Want a change, in the next election vote for someone else. Not sure who that would be not much to choose from.
The old adage you reap what you sow is appropriate here.

 
 
Dwight Mullover
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: The Liberals would be no different. All political parties are controlled by big business now.
 
 
Rob polanski 
Reply to @Dwight Mullover: Higgs is an Irving man and still is. He went above and beyond what previous government had done.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Dwight Mullover: As I said not sure who would. But the cons are more pro big business that the other parties are,.
 
 
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Many wanted a Minority Government. It would’ve served us much better than this more than obvious favouritism toward certain factions in this Province. Recall a two week campaign by civil servants to assist in gas price and now this blatant move.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Trent Connor 
We must trust government oversight of our businesses. They know what's best for us.
 
 
Rod Hill
Reply to @Trent Connor: I presume this is sarcasm!
 
 
Trent Connor 
Reply to @Rod Hill: ;-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Louise Duguay  
The profits should go to our health care system. Mental health. We should raise. It is terrible. And it’s not a blip in time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marc Martin
I know some small contractor that will be closing this summer because of this without knowing if they can re-open. Higgs is all big company, what a mess.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marc LeBlanc
Are there no politicians out there who actually have our best interest at heart?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
William Peters
Have you been following all the criticism of this decision in the Irving media? What a joke. Before it's all said and done we will probably have given away more access to crown land and cut taxes on these businesses. Then when it really counts we will be entertained with hot button language issues at election time that try and make a point that its too expensive for our poor starving government. Let the builders pay more Mr. minister. Everyone is swimming in dirt cheap credit. Your job is to make sure we can pay for our standard of life that you must provide, not to keep retail lumber shoppers happy.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @William Peters: There is no need for language issues. It's cast in stone. So move on!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Al Brown
If royalties for a mineral, say iron ore, is based on market pricing that mineral sells for, why is the stumpage fee not treated like a royalty on lumber? Seems like a solution that is accepted for the removal of our resources by mining companies. It should be applied to those companies that take any natural resource for profit. Nestle's use of water for a pennies on millions of litres comes to mind too. If prices for products are market driven, so too should the priviledge of taking those resources.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Brian Robertson
There is no good reason for stumpage rates in New Brunswick to not follow those in other provinces. At least that is true on the surface, which makes one wonder what we are not being told of discussions behind closed doors.
It wouldn't be the first time that young James Irving made a trip to Fredericton to apply pressure when it comes to forestry issues.
 
 
Donald LeBlanc 
Reply to @Brian Robertson: According to statement in the Legislature, the Act secures The Company in writing. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chachi Arcola  
How did the I R V I N G newspapers even know that H O L L A N D went to NS at Christmas against the advice given to the P L E B D by his our cabinet?

H O L L A N D is totally a p u p p e t of I R V I N G. If you don't think they prob have P I s following this guy to b l a A a c k m a i l then you don't understand how these billionaires roll. The story about NS Christmas travel was prob just the w a r n i n g to him of how they knew things they could release.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chachi Arcola 
We're living under the most evil government we've ever had in NB. They are literally L O O T I N G our province, f l o o d i n g us to replace us with people from Ontario and overseas, while b l a m i n g us every time they allow the virus to spread in our province over and over again. Throw in the municipal reform and you have to wonder if the NB we all knew and loved is gone forever.
 
 
Brian Robertson
Reply to @Chachi Arcola:
Good Lord.
Your not given to exaggeration much, are you?
The 'most evil'?
'Gone forever'?
Take a deep breath and relax a bit before you get the vapors.
 
 
Chachi Arcola  
Reply to @Brian Robertson: Municipal reform, the housing crisis, the complete l o o t i n g of crown lands by the corp, wage s u p p r e s s i o n. They are i r r e v e r s i b l y changing NB. You cannot bring 10s of thousands of people from away into a place with 750,000 people and not have it be changed forever.
 
 
Brian Robertson
Reply to @Chachi Arcola:
So, your problem is with the immigration rates as well?
And what housing crisis? You mean the one story yesterday of one couple hit with a $2,000 per annum increase in rent? One case in Moncton for which we haven't all the facts does not make a housing crisis.
Take a look outside. The sky is still up there where it's supposed to be.
 
 
Paul Bolton 
Reply to @Brian Robertson: Open your eyes, you can hardly find a place to rent in all of Carleton County, and while we're at it...I thought they were going to go after price gouging during the pandemic? Wouldn't tripling the cost of lumber count? 
 
 
Norman Albert Snr  
Reply to @Brian Robertson: How is that anything other then Gospel Truth. Higgs is home grown corporate (irving). Still working for the very same employer he was for thirty years.It ain't us.
 
 
Donald LeBlanc  
Reply to @Brian Robertson: It was a $2000. per month increase.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sam Brown 
....."He said it's better to ride out highs and lows in commodity markets with a "stable, steady," royalty system that doesn't bottom out when prices plummet."......
Really !!!!!!
Then why does the NB Government set fuel prices based on market conditions ?
Good Day
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Robert Buck 
Well Mr. Higgs in business you need to take advantage of the "blips". And where is the report on the Forestry Act? A little slow on that.
 
 
 
 
 
Johnny Almar  
Nothing wrong with profit.

That’s why royalties should be raised dramatically on crown land.
 
 
 
 
buster jones
Mike Holland wears wooden shoes made by Irving.
 
 
 
 
 
Laura Smith
"no one will pay for higher royalties except forest companies"
Are any of our premiers collecting a pension from a forestry company ?
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Laura Smith: Company's don't pay pensions . Pensions are paid by management companies into which employees pension payments are invested . You obviously have no clue how pensions work .
 
 
Al Brown
Reply to @Lou Bell: That's a bit picky as they probably contribute to the fund, but what does a pension have to do with setting stumpage fees is what I would like to know. Deflection is a weak argument Laura.
 
 
Rob Sense  
Reply to @Al Brown: A but you are speaking to the great Deflecto...so duplicitous is he that he can leap off of high building or bend a spoon with a simple tender thought about Blaine
 
 
Norman Albert Snr  
Reply to @Lou Bell: Spoken like a true Blue Con. A Higgs/Irving Lap dog. Not everyone is a financial no it all wizard like You Lulu Bell. a little empathy if you please....or not
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Norman Albert Snr  
Just another Irving Government policy. Steal the tax paying public blind.
 
 
Rob polanski   
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: It's been like this since the late 80s.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ralph Wighham 
That 468 million would have wiped out the 2021 defect and left another 200 million as walking around money. Instead we get Mike Holland lying to our faces in the legislature. Used to think they were stupid, but I'm convinced they are mendacious now. Thats not better.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Raymond Leger
Tricked, fooled or coerced is a more accurate description than "voted for" here in NB.
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Smith
I’m wondering if this could be related to a friends and family issue? They should change the law to get a percent of the Wholesale price the lumber sells for. That way the province is participating In both the up and down side of the market. If they don’t raise the stumpage fee, then the US will slap another dumping tariff on NB for selling below market.
 
 
Marc Andre
Reply to @Joe Smith: Joe , you don't seem to realize your suggestion is fair. That's the problem.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Collins
The failure to collect increased royalties based on the market value of the wood is a dismal failure by the Higg's government. The citizens of New Brunswick deserve better. The constant pandering to billionaire corporations while ignoring the burgeoning debt and the dire situation with health care and education in the province is unacceptable. We have been held hostage long enough. This may well become an election issue and could very well end the current governments majority. Taxpayers have had enough.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr  
Reply to @Michael Collins: Define "failure"? It might be failed for the tax payers but Blame Irving Higgs is just doing great by the Empire standards. More Sickening by the day.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Archie Levesque  
Now now - dont upset the Empire or they will take all their stuff and leave and we will have no jobs left........
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Douglas James  
Perhaps Irving could take some of that windfall and start paying for its own glyphosate instead of continuing to dip into taxpayers' pockets.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Douglas James: Or end glyphosate all together. save more than money. Save lives
 
 
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: And rivers, waters and wildlife.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
The golden rule: "The one with the gold makes the rules!"
 
 
Jos Allaire 
You break the rules, you're an outlaw!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Robert L. Brown
To Mike Holand raise the stumpage fee and do not allow the Irvings nor anyone else to increase their pricing
 
 
Jack Bell 
Reply to @Robert L. Brown: You mean common sense? Is that something politicians are capable of?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Robert L. Brown
The big I at its best showing just how much they control every government and elected politician in NB
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rob Sense
Where is dum bell to deflect and provide spooning relief for St Blaine?
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Rob Sense: Worry pas, she'll be here soon making a fool of herself again.
 
 
Dave Shimla
Reply to @Jos Allaire: don't forget about little Billy too
 
 
Rob Sense
Reply to @Dave Shimla:
you mean Billy Buck? I had almost forgot about this other Higgs' fan.
 
 
Dave Shimla 
Reply to @Rob Sense: lol paid shill for sure
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOHN NOWLAN  
It is a simple issue. The Higgs government (and likely a Liberal one if they were in power) is choosing to stand up for N.B. billionaires and foreign corporations and to put the wood (pun intended) to N.B. small businesses.
 
 
Rob polanski  
Reply to @JOHN NOWLAN: The province had only one premier who stood up the Billionaires which was Louis. He was disgraced for it, like anyone else that stands up to Irvings.
 
 
JOHN NOWLAN   
Reply to @Rob polanski:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Not necessarily the right answer but if the product you produce is not earning the value that you believe it is worth. Simply don't sell. If that accentuates the shortage more so than there presently is, one would hope the government would step in and adjust the rates.
But selling your product at a loss really doesn't make much sense.
 
 
Jason Inness
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: The market is pricing their product at a much higher rate. The government is severely undercutting the market and artificially creating a price that is not reflective of the market.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Jason Inness: I understand, so don't sell, wait for the prices to rise.
 
 
Clive Gibbons   
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Then the companies will make a plea to the government to increase crown land allocations. This is the reason prices are low to begin with.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Clive Gibbons: Perhaps, or the government will say, hang on a second. Look at the obscene profits you are generating. Clearly you don't need more acreage, there is plenty of timber available, you just don't want to pay market pricing.
 
 
Clive Gibbons   
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy?
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Clive Gibbons: Nope nor do I believe that the government is the answer to all issues. If you are in business for yourself, you need to make the right decisions for your business and not look to the government to solve your problems.
 
 
Clive Gibbons  
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: By not raising timber royalties, government sure isn't causing lumber companies any problems.
 
 
Rob polanski  
Reply to @Clive Gibbons: But he is causing problems to the private woodlot owners that can't get a fair price for their lumber. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Musa Alabaster  
I'm terrified to take a drive through the woodlands and see how how many neighbours' lots were clear-cut illegally but thieves trying to make a quick buck. A lifetime to grow and a few hours to destroy. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
"New Brunswick lumber companies themselves have said little during the debate and appear content to let Holland do the talking for them. J.D. Irving vice president of communications Anne McInerney declined direct comment on the royalty issue, writing she "will respectfully defer to the Minister's recent comments on the topic.""

Of course, they are telling him what to say!
 
 
 
 
 
 
Allister Bannister  
this pretty much sums it up:
""Do you think for five seconds that if stumpage rates went up significantly, they would not be passed onto the consumer?" Holland said, during question period last week.

Bell calls that untrue "because lumber prices are set based on supply and demand globally," and argues no one will pay for higher royalties except forest companies.

New Brunswick lumber companies themselves have said little during the debate and appear content to let Holland do the talking for them."

higgy and his band of blue dont really give a poo about the guy at the bottom....until its time to vote...then the cheesy brain washing convinces us to mark our X to elect him again....and dont get me wrong...the other political colours are EXACTLY the same....which points to the fact the system is broken...so whats the voter gonna do about it?? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Allan J Whitney
Why on earth does New Brunswick allow foreign operators to annihilate the forests?
 
 
Clive Gibbons  
Reply to @Allan J Whitney: JDI isn't foreign (except for their bank account).
 
 
Rob polanski 
Reply to @Clive Gibbons: Irving might has well be foreign with the way they funnel money to Bermuda. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Pete Spence  
Never gonna happen with the irving/higgs
We should be accustomed to being "serfs" by now.......
 
 
 
 
Johnny Jakobs  
I wish my tax rate was the same as 2015 but that ain't happening.
 
 
 
 
Gary MacKay 
The part that escapes me is how any of these so called intelligent business people and government are completely devoid of the ability to recognize that this is a direct subsidy and will cause a retaliation from the US and others that trade with us.
This ludicrous lack of adjusting the crown lumber prices to reflect the current market will bite us and the tax payers will once again pick up the tab for bad management. IMO
 
 
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to @Gary MacKay: The last US Tarif retaliation ended up hurting the little guys much more than the Big guy. So who’s in the driver’s seat?
 
 
Rob polanski 
Reply to @Donald LeBlanc: The big Guy got government to hire lawyers and lobbyists to defend them. Getting them exemptions on some tarifs & taxes(ex: carbon tax)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Turkey hunting takes precedence . At least the honorable minister got that in place, for a fee to the user.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Errol Willis 
I understand that contractors and people building homes have to pay this outrageous pricing, but I can't understand people building deck extensions, new fences, general type homeowner projects paying these prices. I have several projects I was hoping to complete this summer, but I'll never pay the price they're asking. People complain when gas goes up 4-5 cents a litre, but when lumber increases by 300% (and to be clear, the quality of it is not good at all), most continue to buy it.
 
I'll let it rot on the shelf before I pay those prices.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Errol Willis: Roger that!
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to @Errol Willis: Doheds. An ontarioite bought a house here sight unseen($350.000). Doesn't like the color of the siding or look of the new windows. Replacing all. Money to burn
 
 
Jos Allaire 
Reply to @Errol Willis: Is there any wonder why cryptocurrencies and the biggest joke of them all, Dogecoin is worth more than money❓
 
 
Allister Bannister  
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: its not money to burn...its economics of scale and the difference in the cost of getting work done in ONT vs NB...for the upper canadians ...both house prices and contractor prices are like a dream come true for them...and in the end the help grow the economy in NB!!!!....its the BH's of NB that keep NB in the dark ages!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
You notice that all the " "lumber yards " are full to capacity with unprocessed logs. The trees are cut, the royalties are already paid. Too late again higs. Blame on your "wonderful" covid response.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
As George Carlin used to say: "It's a big club and you ain't in it!".
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
A gift from taxpayers to the company who least needs it, compliments of higs.
 
 
 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cibc-slams-nb-timber-royalties-1.6022799 

 

CIBC slams 'perplexing' N.B. refusal to raise timber royalties during record lumber price surge

'There's a landlord in the province that doesn't want to collect their rents,' says company analyst


Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: May 12, 2021 6:00 AM AT 

 


Acadian Timber Corp. owns 308,000 hectares of New Brunswick forest and sells sawlogs and pulpwood to provincial mills. Last week, the company was called an "underperformer" by CIBC for not being able to get better prices for its wood. ( Jonathan Hayward/Canadian Press)

New Brunswick is digging in on its decision not to raise royalty rates on Crown timber to take advantage of record prices for lumber, even though records show it has lowered royalties in response to weak lumber prices in the past. 

As well, a top industry analyst says the province is preventing other sellers from getting better prices for their own wood.

Last week in an appearance on the CBC political panel, New Brunswick Natural Resources and Energy Development Minister Mike Holland said the province is not raising timber royalties on forestry companies as lumber prices across North America surge, in part, because it did not lower them during tough times.

"The conversation is around why don't we raise them when the price is good, but the conversation never centres around lowering them when there are hits to industry and the price is low,"  he said.

"There was no hue and cry to decrease them when times were bad."  

But records show New Brunswick has adjusted royalty rates up and down based on economic conditions many times, often responding to tough markets with discounts.


New home construction in the US and Canada and COVID driven home renovations have pushed lumber prices to record highs. (Ryan Remiorz/The Canadian Press)

According to regulations on file with the province, New Brunswick dropped Crown royalty rates charged on spruce, fir and pine sawlogs by 12.9 per cent in late June 2008 following a decline in North American lumber prices triggered by a collapse in US housing starts.  

One year later, in June 2009, New Brunswick cut royalty rates on softwood sawlogs again by another 10.6 per cent following continued weakness in lumber markets.  

Nevertheless, Holland said it is not the province's practice to adjust timber royalties to respond to what could be temporary market swings in lumber and he would need more evidence that the year–long escalation in prices is not a short term event.

"I have no issue with talking about pricing reflecting something that benefits the province of New Brunswick but it can't be chasing a trend.  It can't be following an anomaly," said Holland.

A request to interview Mike Holland about why royalties were dropped for two years in weak markets in 2008 and 2009 and not raised now in strong markets was not granted.

In an email, department spokesperson Nick Brown acknowledged lumber prices were used in those years as a "signal" to justify royalty rates being lowered, but said market prices for forest products are normally not part of the royalty formula used for timber.    

He said that could change if lumber prices stay high for an unspecified period.

"The Minister has recently stated that commodity prices can fluctuate and if the cost of wood is to remain at these levels, long term, he would re-examine the file," wrote Brown.

CIBC blasted New Brunswick last week for not cashing in on record lumber prices by raising royalties on crown timber. "There's a landlord in the province that doesn't want to collect their rents," said analyst Hamir Patel ( Michael Wilson/CBC)

Several provinces have been taking advantage of record lumber pricing to earn millions of dollars more from Crown timber cut by forestry companies and have barely dented their profits while doing it. 

Last week, Canada's largest lumber producer, West Fraser Timber Co. Ltd., reported record earnings of $609 million before tax from its lumber operations for the first three months of 2021, a stunning $592 million increase from one year earlier.  

The company said the profits came despite paying higher rates for Crown and privately purchased wood it uses at mills in British Columbia, Alberta and Ontario.

"(Wood) costs for our B.C., Alberta, and Ontario lumber and Engineered Wood Products operations are expected to remain elevated as long as lumber, and Engineered Wood Products prices remain high...." reported the company.

In New Brunswick, critics charge the province isn't just foregoing millions of dollars in revenue for itself by not raising royalty rates, but is setting a price ceiling for wood that blocks others from being able to get better prices for what they sell.


New Brunswick Natural Resources and Energy Development Minister Mike Holland told CBC's political panel last week he's not convinced lumber prices will stay high and does not want to raise royalty rates until he is sure. (CBC)

Acadian Timber Cor.oration of Edmundston is the second largest non-Crown owner of forest property in New Brunswick behind J.D. Irving Ltd..  

Acadian sells timber to mills for both pulp and lumber processing and was facing criticism last week for being unable to get better prices for its wood given what's happening in other provinces.

"Sawlog pricing appreciation in New Brunswick has underwhelmed despite record lumber markets," said a report issued by CIBC Capital markets in its rating of Acadian as an "underperformer" company largely because of prices it's getting for wood it sells.

"Log prices in New Brunswick have been sluggish due to the provincial government's perplexing decision to leave royalty rates on Crown timber unchanged for the past six years." said the report..

Hamir Patel with CIBC's Vancouver office wrote the assessment.  On Acadian Timber's quarterly conference call, he pressed the company for an explanation of why New Brunswick, which owns half the commercial forest in the province, is unwilling to raise royalties in such a hot market.

"It seems like there's a landlord in the province that doesn't want to collect their rents," said Patel.

"It almost seems like a better approach would be to just simply refuse to sell at these prices," he said.  

Current royalty rates for timber in New Brunswick have been in place since July 2015.  

At the time they came into force, lumber futures on the Chicago Mercantile exchange were trading below $250 US per thousand board feet.  It was the lowest price point for lumber of the last nine years and about 80 per cent below where prices have rocketed to this year.

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

 

 

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Matt Steele 
Not really " perplexing " as it doesn't take much to figure out who the big winners are in having access to cheap Crownland timber . All N.B. governments have been practically giving away Crown timber , and in doing so has made it very difficult for the private woodlot owner to sell their timber at a fair market value . Unfortunately , don't expect it to change anytime soon regardless of which govt. is in power as it was Frank McKenna who took all the Crown leases away from the little guy , and gave them to the big timber companies , and McKenna did it with a smile on his face . Some things just never change 
 
 
 
 
David Lutz
Higgs looking after his old buddies Irving. Don't forget he was an Irving corporate executive and I'm sure he's well looked after.  
 
 
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
The forestry companies also have their land holdings assessed at $100/ha. An artificially low rate. This has led the province to leave millions of dollars on the table for years. No wonder we are broke.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tax-breaks-timber-1.3893074

 

Forest landowners pay a fraction of their property taxes and here's why

New Brunswick governments have rarely tried to tamper with a tax deal popular among forestland owners


Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Dec 13, 2016 7:00 AM AT


Low bills for JDI, Acadian Timber

"The province assessed the land as being worth $85,300. The independent appraisal done for the Nature Conservancy before the purchase put its worth at $950,000.

Low assessments have only one effect — they produce low tax bills.

In 2006, J.D. Irving, Ltd. bought 90,000 hectares of New Brunswick forest and a Lac Baker sawmill from Bowater Mersey for $70 million.  

But because of the $100 assessment rule, the province valued and taxed the property before and after the sale as being worth $11 million.

Recent large forestland purchases show the gap between assessed value and market value 

Vancouver's Acadian Timber, the second-largest private landowner in New Brunswick after JDI, owns 308,000 hectares of forest, a mass that would cover 60 per cent of Prince Edward Island.  

In 2014, the investment firm Raymond James valued Acadian New Brunswick land to be worth $228 million. But for tax purposes the province assesses it for $31 million, or about $100 per hectare.

That assessment generates a significantly reduced annual property tax bill for Acadian Timber of about $600,000.

Tracey Steele, an Acadian Timber spokeswoman in Vancouver, said the company has nothing to say about its New Brunswick property taxes.

"We issue our financial statements and you are welcome to look in there," she said.

"Otherwise we don't have any comment further to that."


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 Charles Thériault: la piqûre du cinéma et des forêts

In Episode 9 of Is Our Forest Really Ours, Charles Thériault discusses the involvement of Frank McKenna and Bud Bird in forest management in New Brunswick. Produced by Charles Thériault. 

According to Thériault, Bud Bird, a well-known businessman and former Progressive Conservative politician, while Minister of Natural Resources under the Hatfield government, “essentially privatized the Crown forest by dividing the land into ten timber licenses in 1982.”

In response to concerns of woodlot owners, the Crown Lands and Forest Act was amended in 1982 to say that the industry’s primary source of wood fibre had to come from private woodlots. The big players in the forestry industry objected to the new power given to woodlot owners and their marketing boards but Bird was able to console the industry by consolidating 483 parcels of Crown land into ten licenses. Today, only four companies, all large, multinational corporations, control Crown forest. J.D. Irving is the largest Crown forest licensee. Theriault argues, “This system has impoverished New Brunswick.”

Frank McKenna, while Premier of New Brunswick, changed the Act by striking the woodlot owners’ guarantee of primary source of wood supply to the province’s mills. Woodlot owners have been fighting ever since 1992 to have the market advantage returned to them. They say they are not able to compete with cheap Crown wood and they point to the overcutting of the public forest as one symptom of a broken forest management regime.

McKenna and Bird entered again in Thériault’s storytelling of New Brunswick’s forest history. In 2009, Fraser Papers, that owned the mill in Edmundston, filed for bankruptcy protection with the Canadian and American governments so that it could restructure. At the time, Brookfield Asset Management was the majority shareholder of Fraser Papers. McKenna is a long-time board member of Brookfield, a company that denied 450 retired mill workers in Edmundston their full pensions.

The restructuring of Fraser Papers involved splitting the company into two new companies: Acadian Timber and Twin Rivers. Bird is a former board director of Acadian Timber. According to Acadian Timber’s website, today, the company is the “second largest timberland operator in New Brunswick and Maine.” Twin Rivers operates the Edmundston mill and is one of the companies that the Alward government signed a controversial and unprecedented contract with in 2014 that allowed the company to cut an increased amount of wood from their Crown land license every year.

Frustrated by a political system that is captured by corporations, Thériault ran in the last two provincial elections, first as an independent and more recently, in the September 2018 election, as a Green Party candidate for Restigouche West. In that election, he came in second, with 31.5 per cent of the vote.


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Minister defends not raising Crown timber royalties, despite soaring lumber prices

Crown timber royalties haven't budged, despite lumber prices jumping as much as 300 per cent

 

Aidan Cox · CBC News · Posted: May 07, 2021 10:00 AM AT

 


Energy and Resource Development Minister Mike Holland said New Brunswick keeping its Crown timber royalties stable ensures the province doesn't lose revenue when the price of lumber drops. (CBC)

New Brunswick's natural resources and energy development minister is defending his government's decision to keep the royalties for wood harvested on Crown land stable, despite record prices for lumber across North America in the past year.

The province takes "a steady, stable approach" to the timber royalties it charges lumber companies for cutting trees on Crown land, which means it won't lower the fees when prices drop and won't raise them when prices rise, said Mike Holland, speaking this week on CBC's Political Panel.

"We have a steady, stable approach to our timber royalties to provide consistency and also to ensure that we don't leave money on the table. The conversation is around 'Why don't we raise them when the price is good?' But the conversation never centres around lowering them when there are hits to industry or the price is low."

In the past year, the price of lumber paid by consumers has climbed by as much as 300 per cent.

In Alberta, which ties timber royalties to the market prices of timber products, those record prices have also been generating record amounts of public revenue, with the province reporting timber royalties going $111 million over budget at the end of the last fiscal year.

New Brunswick, meanwhile, has kept its timber royalties steady while at the same time pulling out of tax-sharing agreements for gasoline sales on First Nations, with Premier Blaine Higgs saying those agreements deprived schools, hospitals and other public services of much-needed funding.

Holland said the province's stance on keeping timber royalties steady has meant the province hasn't taken hits to its revenue in the past when lumber prices were lower, such as when the United States imposed tariffs on Canadian lumber that were as high as 20 per cent.

"At that point, we didn't lower the royalty rates as well as in 2018, timber and the retail market was at an all-time low price. Again, province of New Brunswick did not lower royalty rates as well, like you refer to Alberta, following the commodity as it relates to the royalty rate."

Bathurst West-Beresford Liberal MLA René Legacy said he understands taking a stable approach that accounts for regular lows and highs, but doesn't think it accommodates "extreme circumstances like we're in now."

Bathurst West-Beresford Liberal MLA René Legacy said he thinks most New Brunswickers have a hard time comprehending how Crown timber isn't worth more now that lumber prices have skyrocketed. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

"When you hear that wood is going up 100 per cent, 200 per cent, would it be, you know, sensible to think that maybe we could benefit 20, 30 per cent from that in our fees?" Legacy said.

"I think most New Brunswickers have a really hard time comprehending that our resources aren't worth more when times are good."

Green Party Leader David Coon said the value of the timber on Crown lands is the value of its income potential, and to reflect that, New Brunswick would need to either adopt a model similar to Alberta's or Maine's, which he described as a competitive auction sale.


Green Party Leader David Coon noted that revenues from Crown timber royalties are offset by management fees the province pays to companies that harvest timber. (CBC News)

Some of those timber royalty revenues are also offset by Crown land management fees the province pays forestry companies.

Coon also noted the timber royalties exclude any revenue sharing with First Nations, which in recent years have filed legal claims for land in the province.

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said he thinks it's great that companies in New Brunswick are doing well given the higher lumber prices.


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said taxpayers are losing "a significant benefit" of the value of Crown timber by the province not raising the Crown timber royalties. (CBC)  

"But when you're taking resources off of Crown land, then the taxpayers need to benefit from that, and right now, they're losing a significant benefit from it," Austin said.

"And I think if we do tie it to the market and we look at ways to ensure that whatever we're paying out in management fees is being recouped to some extent from industry, we'd see a more level playing field and it would give the opportunity for taxpayers to get a better bang for the buck for the resources that they're giving to industry in the midst of this economic boom."

-With files from Information Morning Fredericton

 

 

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Marc Andre
First the 'recommendation' for Irving , now this.... Mike "Irving" Holland.  
 
 
 
 
Kevin Cormier   
Royalties... I was told that the Prov royalties on a ton of gravel/rock was $0.50 per ton. Crazy!  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marguerite Deschamps
Where is Lou Natick Bell when they need her to defend her heroes?
Hes she been banished?

 

Norman Albert Snr
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: There are some battles even the die hards can't hope to win. Lulu dropped in but left early
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Old Lou Natick Bell went poof like her posts. She got a taste of her own medicine, the tattletale. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Mccarthy
Our grand kids will thank us some day for the high tax’s they are paying because of our stupidity
 
 
Randy McNally 
Reply to @Michael Mccarthy: Yes and it could go something like "...yes but you were there... You could have tried to do something, and you chose to do nothing." And the this applies to a lot of things that are happening at his moment.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
buster jones
I thought we were broke.
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to @buster jones: everyone on team Higgs is doing just fine and that's all tat matters. Holland will get a plum position for all his boot licking. As long as friends and family (eg. Yennah Hurley) are taken care of the heck with everyone else. It's the NBCon way.
 
 
Norman Albert Snr 
Reply to @buster jones: No We were broke 70 years ago when we, the people, started funding/subsidizing and offering Irving tax concessions based primarily on benefits to the economy (Jobs). Now we are $B in debt and they are $Bs in off shore profits. Mean while any good jobs are being automated and min wage becoming the norm all while they rob us blind. Different points of view on whether glass is half full or half empty. My question is where is the glass? 
 
 
 
 

Skyrocketing costs force some N.B. contractors to walk away from housing contracts

Price of lumber has shot through the roof, but contractors say so has everything else

The cost of building material has skyrocketed to the point where some Fredericton-area contractors are now putting construction projects such as houses and apartment buildings on hold. 

Others have started buildings but can't afford to finish them. 

Jack Youssef, who owns the property development company Javo Properties, said he's had to walk away from a project on Fredericton's north side "indefinitely." 

"We got the foundation in," said Youssef. "We were all ready, prepped and ready to go. We had our anchor tenant with our letter-of-intent signed. Our pricing was all locked in.

"When we went to start framing, our lumber costs alone went from about $27,000 to about $87,000." 

On the city's south side, another contractor is powering through the record high prices of lumber and other building supplies in order to finish.


Two dozen contractors and politicians gathered at the Maugerville Community Centre northeast of Fredericton on Wednesday night to discuss the rapidly increasing cost of building materials, including lumber. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

Four years ago, Youssef Brothers Construction built a 24-unit apartment complex in Fredericton. He's now building a nearly identical one in the city's uptown.

"That development is about $700,000 more than the same development four years ago," said Louie Youssef. "It's crazy. But it's not just lumber. Lumber is probably $100,000 extra of that cost."

He said he'll have to make that money back by increasing rent once the project is finished. 

Those rapidly increasing costs led two dozen contractors and politicians to meet Wednesday night in Maugerville, northeast of Fredericton, to try to come to terms with the almost daily increase in building costs.

Compounding the issue is the influx of people moving to New Brunswick from outside the province and a red-hot real-estate market. 

"We have such an influx of people that want a piece of what we have now that it's eventually possibly going to price New Brunswickers right out of New Brunswick," said Youssef.

"If you're a builder that's done well for the last 10 years, my best advice to you is to take a year off. And come back when it's over hopefully."

Lumber not the only material spiking in cost

While the ever-increasing cost of lumber was often cited as the main culprit, contractors say other materials are also following the trend. 

"Almost every single material," said Jenna Holland of Holland Homes. "From lumber to siding to any type of metal, soffit, fascia, exterior and interior doors — it's all gone up."

And despite the high costs, many materials have become scarce as demand is so high.

 

Contractor and meeting organizer Lloyd Dutcher says he'll likely have to walk away soon from building homes until prices come down. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

One contractor said he's had to call multiple suppliers for sheet rock to finish a project, and the material was so delayed workers had to cut holes in finished walls once it arrived to install it because construction had to continue on without it.

Youssef said it was a struggle to even order bathtubs for his project. He ordered them months ago, and they've yet to arrive. Although the building is on hold, he won't cancel the tubs, because he doesn't know how long it would take to reorder them.

Some at Wednesday's meeting have cancelledcontracts to build houses because it's become unaffordable. Others are considering simply walking away from contracting for at least the summer, or until prices come back to Earth. 

Meeting organizer Lloyd Dutcher said he's had to cancel contracts to build homes for people who have already sold the houses they've been living in. That's left them no place to live after the closing date.

"It's awful," said Dutcher, who said he'll likely hang up his tool belt once the houses he's currently building are finished until prices come down.

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Methinks some of the private woodlot owners in the Sussex area may be regretting the fact that I was barred from debating Northrup et al about this nonsense during the election in 2018 N'esy Pas? 

 

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Woodlot owners say N.B. pricing system keeps them from cashing in on high lumber demand

Allege system hides true price for private wood

 

Connell Smith · CBC News · Posted: Nov 16, 2020 6:30 AM AT 

 


Bruce Colpitts on one of his family's woodlots in Shannon. 'Costs have not gone down,' he says. (Graham Thompson, CBC)

About 7,000 vehicles a day pass the billboard on New Brunswick Route 1 at Sussex. 

'We're buying wood!', it announces, with a link to the J.D. Irving Ltd. website and a phone number: 855-WOODLOT.

In the background stands the JDI  sawmill, with long rows of stacked logs.

Dialling that number is one of a handful of ways woodlot owners can get their timber to the province's biggest buyer.

If you sign a contract with the company, you can collect $64.25 a metric tonne for spruce studwood logs used to make two-by-fours.

It's a rate that is maddeningly low for those woodlot owners who are selling logs. And it hasn't budged despite booming lumber sales in North America this year.

These private wood sellers see the price as a symptom of a broken system, where some are quietly paid more for their logs, and an abundance of trees available to mills from Crown land prevents the majority from cashing in when times are good.

J.D. Irving Ltd. sends a message to woodlot owners from a billboard at Sussex. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

About 40 minutes to the west of Sussex, at his family farm in Shannon, one of those private growers, Bruce Colpitts, recalls some wisdom shared 20 years ago by his wife's grandfather, Lawrence McCrea. 

"He said, 'Look after the land and the land will look after you,'" said Colpitts. "Well, 20 years ago the price of studwood was about $80 a tonne. Today that exact same product purchased here is $65 a tonne.

"And I guarantee you our costs have not gone down."

Across the provincial border, Nova Scotia woodlot owners are collecting $75 to $93 a tonne for the same wood at the gates to their mills. 

Not easy to sell in Nova Scotia

Those higher prices, triggered in part by a COVID-related jump in demand for lumber, aren't being realized by New Brunswick tree growers who don't see hauling the wood to Nova Scotia as an easy remedy.

Not only are there added travel costs to reach that province's mills, but U.S. tariffs on New Brunswick's lumber make it more difficult to process that wood.

Nova Scotia is exempt from U.S. lumber tariffs, a status New Brunswick also enjoyed until May 2017, when the U.S. concluded the rising share of Crown wood being consumed in this province was  distorting the market, acting as an unfair subsidy to our mills.

A 20.8 per cent tariff was slapped on lumber originating in New Brunswick. JDI was targeted at a lower rate, 9.9 per cent.

 

Softwood logs await transport on a New Brunswick woods road. Prices for private woodlot owners are considerably lower than they were 20 years ago. (Graham Thompson, CBC)

So while the quality of Nova Scotia logs is no different than those of New Brunswick, they require a completely separate accounting system.

 "They can't run it through the mill with the Nova Scotia wood," said Neil Silliker, general manager of the South East New Brunswick Forest Products Marketing Board, whose members, overwhelmingly family woodlot owners, have the best shot at capitalizing on higher prices across the provincial border. "They've got to clean all the New Brunswick sawdust, chips, lumber out of the mill in order to run Nova Scotia wood again."

As a result mills in that province have a preference for local logs, if they're available.

Cheaper New Brunswick wood has also held down prices at those Maine mills closest to our border, making the trip there less attractive to many sellers, according to the Carlton Victoria Forest Products Marketing Board in Florenceville.

Two-tier system

But groups representing the province's woodlot owners have long claimed the biggest reason prices are being held down at home is that the largest mill owners have access to similar trees in the grandest woodlot of all, the taxpayer-owned Crown forest.

The price paid by those companies for trees taken from Crown land are based on the private market, in other words, on how much woodlot owners can fetch for their trees.

The woodlot groups claim there's a two-tier system. On one side, low prices paid to private landowners keep Crown wood prices in check. On the other, harvesting contractors, who have established relationships with the mills are being paid premium prices for logs.  And those premiums aren't being shared with the landowner and aren't being disclosed to the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission, the arm's-length panel overseeing the private wood market and keeping track of prices. 

"There's a lot of things happening that no one is tracking," said Rick Doucett, president of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners. And so it's very difficult to know for sure what's happening out there, and what's fair and not fair."

 

U.S. trade rules mean Nova Scotia mills have to store, saw and account for New Brunswick logs separate from their own. (Nicolas Steinbach, Radio-Canada)

In her October report, Auditor General Kim Adair–MacPherson, said only 20 to 30 per cent of the approximately 200 larger harvesting contractors respond to surveys on stumpage prices sent to them by the Commission. 

There is no enforcement, even though it is required by law.

Her report recommends the province enforce the rule, or find a new way to get a more complete picture of that part of the market.

She also noted the province doesn't have a written definition for what constitutes fair market value for Crown stumpage, and that the province hasn't adjusted Crown timber rates, as required annually by law, since 2015.

Even so, to the dismay of private woodlot owners,  Adair–MacPherson concluded the system for tracking private wood sales to set Crown wood rates is 'statistically sound' and a significant improvement over methods used in the past.

At the commission, executive director Tim Fox said the study on private tree sales examines 18,000 transactions, 60 per cent of which are between contractors and woodlot owners providing an "accurate reflection" of the market overall.

 

Prices for New Brunswick logs remained largely stable despite sharp increases in lumber prices this summer. (Graham Thompson, CBC)

He said it is up to woodlot owners to ensure they are getting a good price for their trees by educating themselves about the market, something the province's woodlot marketing boards should be helping with. 

"There may be certain cases where there may be [harvesting contractors] receiving a premium from a mill and not sharing a proportion (or any) of that premium with the woodlot owner when they could," said Fox. "When, or if that is the case, those wood producers directly contribute to keeping average stumpage rates lower." 

Representatives from the majority of the province's marketing boards disagree with Adair-MacPherson's conclusion that the stumpage study, for the most part, is working.

At the Carlton Victoria Forest Products Marketing Board, Chair Andrew Clark says the Auditor General's team wasn't given the right numbers.

Is the data right?

"There's an old saying about computers, you know, garbage in, garbage out," said Clark. "We dispute entirely the fact that they can establish or pay a royalty rate based on these, on this stumpage data."

Mike Holland, the New Brunswick minister of natural resources and energy says he has confidence in the private wood prices survey. But he is on record saying there's work to be done on the province's forest management system. He's beefed up funding to allow the Forest Products Commission to add more staff to expand and speed up data gathering.

That, he said, will make the system more transparent, reassuring both international trade partners and the province's private woodlot sector.

An organization representing the province's mills says New Brunswick's private wood market is secure and stable, featuring sales between 'willing buyers and willing sellers, free from high price volatility seen elsewhere. 

In the meantime questions are being raised about the whereabouts of a Deloitte study commissioned by the province in 2018. 

Its mandate was to examine the forest products market in New Brunswick and in other comparable markets, and do an analysis of the "process and methodology" used to determine Crown wood rates.

The woodlot groups contributed to the study and have requested, without success, to see the final report.

A spokesperson for the Department of Natural Resources and Energy said the report is being reviewed and will be released in early 2021.

About the Author

Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca

 

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David Amos 
Methinks some of the private woodlot owners in the Sussex area may be regretting the fact that I was barred from debating Northrup et al about this nonsense during the election in 2018 N'esy Pas?

 

 

David Amos
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Methinks the Irvings want the private wood around Sussex because the Crown wood is gone N'esy Pas?

See for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUiUT5aLZc&feature=emb_title 

 
 
 
 
 
 





Chantal LeBouthi
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Alward conservative is responsible for all The this mess
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Methinks many would agree that this malicious nonsense goes back to Hatfield and every Premier since Now its Higgy's job to maintain the status quo for the benefit of his buddies not the sheople he purportedly serves N'esy Pas?







 
 
 
 
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
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Woodlots owners are like a DSL committee they don’t have no administrative financial or contractual authority.
 
 
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Frank McKenna and his SANB Liberals took crown land leases away from the small private woodlot owners and gave them to the large operators !
 
 
David Amos 
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you wish to forget that your hero Bernie Lord promised to switch it back if elected and never did N'esy Pas?
 
 
Jos Allaire
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Reply to @Lou DumBell: And further to what Mr. Amos stated, CONservative Alward and Paul Robichaud gave big industry whatever was left of public lands. Now that they have full control, what more can you expect?
 




 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
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NB conservative don’t care about NB forest or the environment protection or about small wood lots owner

They never did never will bad management is the conservatives way
 
 
David Peters
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Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
This is definitely bipartisan chicanery.
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
Content disabled
Reply to @David Peters:
Im not in any political party and you cannot denial Alward disaster forest plan who made sure of the long term destruction of NB forest and wildlife
 
 
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Time to get over the Liberal election loss , quit blaming others , and move on . Liberals did nothing to help the private wood lot owners , they were too busy planning their " Phonie Games " !!!
 
 
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: McKenna took away crown land leases from the small private woodlot owners and gave them to the big companies ! Their damage to the small operators was immense ! Time to place blame where it all began !!!!!!!
 
 
David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @David Peters: Yup Everybody knows the Irving Clan keeps a tight leash on all the political animals even the Green Meanies I witnessed it first hand over a public debate in Sussex during the election in 2018
 
 
David Webb NB
Content disabled
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: "I'm not in any political party"? Definitely partizan though. Wise to be critical of all parties, because none of them care about you.
 













Sammy Kofax
Suck it up. You have amazing years and you have bad years. Just like other markets like lobster ! Ha. What a joke this is. It will never change. Either get out of the business or monopolize like the big boyz!!
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: Surely you jest
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: You are not an economist, I see.
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: There are NO amazing years as a woodlot owner in this province, unless you are irving.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Justin Gunther
If the economic situation isn't viable then why are you still selling your wood? Are you still making money? I'm having a hard time experiencing sympathy for somebody who likely inherited millions of dollars in property.
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Maybe you could take some of your money, but an apartment building, and then jack the rent up 150% if that'll be more profitable for you. Who decides what stories get run anyway?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Trudeau
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Justin Gunther: That is a completely unfounded statement, and only goes to show how little you know about the situation.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: He is in his own little world
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @David Amos: Is this man making less than $100,000 a year? If so, shame on me I guess. Blame the CBC for providing the minimum detail if I know little about the situation.
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @David Amos: You have my number and my email Mr. Amos. If you would like to correct me then go ahead.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
I already answered you Furthermore methinks everybody knows Trudeau the Younger rakes in far more than that Hence it would be a waste of my precious time explaining the circus to you again N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Amajor Hall
Bro, all you have to do is to 300 Union St, SJ, NB and take it up with the people there, they can surely help!
 
 
Darryl Hill
Reply to @Amajor Hall: I wonder if Irving makes people wait 3 months or more for an answer. They are notorious for making people wait for their payments.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Darryl Hill: Methinks that been their MO since I was in diapers N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: I recall my Father sending the Sheriff to put chains on the gates of their refinery in order to make them pay their property taxes
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Alfred Watson
I'm only 70 but there has never been a time in those years you could get paid for BOTH your work AND trees from your wooodlot.. likely won't change over the next 100 years either. Don't worry, be happy.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Alfred Watson: I am only 68 and I know the secret to happiness after the kids have grown and flown away

Methinks Higgy et al are well aware that I am Happy Happy Happy stress testing legions of unethical politicians, lawyers and cops on a daily basis N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Peters
Price controls and monopolization of the economy are hallmarks of socialism/fascism.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Peters:
Try telling that to those demanding rent controls.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Well put
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Buddy Best
Irving!!! Irving!!! Irving!!! No more need be said!!!!
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Buddy Best: add on AV and Twin Rivers
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Samual Johnston: and Franky Boy and his cohorts
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Johnston
New Brunswick are subsidizing the forest industry - and always have been. Shame that when we are constantly in a deficit position that we have to subsidize a very profitable industry. At one time many years ago there was some justification because the forest industry employed so many people but that is no longer the case.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Jim Johnston: I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
Not really surprising . Many years ago former Liberal Premier Frank McKenna ordered that all the Crown Land leases be taken away from the small private woodlot owners without compensation , and be given to the big forestry companies for next to nothing , and that is the way it remains to this day . Why would big forestry companies want to buy lumber at a fair price when they can get it so cheaply from Crown land . Welcome to N.B. .
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Matt Steele: Agreed the system is taking money out of the taxpayers pockets in order to subsidize the big mills. Twin Rivers is from the USA and AV is out of India and Irving NB/Bermuda.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Samual Johnston: BINGO
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Collins
Basically one company controls New Brunswick's forests and decides how much they are going to pay and how much wood they will harvest. They have been handed management of crown lands by the government and do as they please. They set market prices and have even managed to convince the Americans that they should receive reduced tariffs. Good luck trying to change the current system.
 
 
Aaron Lagendyk
Reply to @Michael Collins: NB will never have a democratic free market.
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Michael Collins: Twin Rivers is American owned and AV is out if India - On the Pulp side I believe they are even bigger than Irving - have to look that up though.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Michael Collins: Exactly.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Michael Collins: Methinks you are preaching to a choir of apathetic sheople who complain about the nonsense but do nothing about it and in fact vote for the very political parties that created the mess in the first place N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Except for the fact that most ppl either don't vote, or vote for something other than the blue/red uniparty.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Peters: The first and last time I ever voted in my life was in 2018 That was when i was allowed to vote for myself. Furthermore my Mother is the widow of a former Chief Electoral Officer so go figure why you are trying to tell me something I already know very well
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dave Shimla
a certain company set the pricing years ago to shut down small family owned wood harvesting companies. they undercut everyone at the mill with free wood from crown lands. pretty easy to lower your price when you get your raw materials for free.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Exactly.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Methinks its been par for the course since Franky Boy won every seat in NB many moons ago N'esy Pas?

 



 

 

https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/erd/natural_resources/content/ForestsCrownLands/content/ForestProductMarketingBoards.html

 

 


Carleton-Victoria Forest Products Marketing Board
151 Perkins Way
Florenceville, NB, E7L 3P6

Telephone: (506) 392-5584
Fax: (506) 392-8290
Web: www.cvwpa.ca
E-mail: info@cvwpa.ca

Chairman: Andrew Clark
Vice Chairman: Roy McLellan
2nd Vice: Lee Reed
Secretary/Treasurer: Randall Rioux
Manager: Linda Bell
Silviculture Manager: Chantal Cote-DeMerchant


Madawaska Forest Products Marketing Board
640 boulevard Isidore-Boucher
St-Jaques, N-B, E7B 1Y4

Telephone: (506) 739-9585
Fax: (506) 739-0859
E-mail: odvdm@nbnet.nb.ca

Chairman: Charles Albert
Vice Chairman: Sylvain Grondin
Secretary/Treasurer: Richard Nadeau
Manager: Diane Landry
Silviculture Manager : Rodrigue Bellefleur

 


North Shore Forest Products Marketing Board
2807 Miramichi Avenue, P. O. Box 386
Bathurst, NB, E2A 3Z3

Telephone: (506) 548-8958
Fax: (506) 548-1165
E-mail: nsfpmb@nbnet.nb.ca

Chairman: Mario Comeau
Vice: Danny Murphy
Secretary/Treasurer: Paul Robichaud
Manager: Patrick Doucet
Silviculture: Patrick Doucet

 


Northumberland County Forest Products Marketing Board
271 McMurdo Street, Industrial Park
P. O. Box 494, Miramichi, NB, E1V 3M6

Telephone: (506) 622-7733
Fax: (506) 622-6317
E-mail: nwoodlot@nb.aibn.com

Chairman: Kenny English
Vice: Norman Richardson
2nd Vice: Dale Brennan
Secretary/Treasurer: Gilbert Campbell
Manager: Paula Creamer
Silviculture: Kevin Forgrave


South East New Brunswick Forest Products Marketing Board
3384 Route 132, Scoudouc
P. O. Box 5074, Shediac, NB, E4P 8T8

Telephone: (506) 532-1150
Fax: (506) 532-6500
E-mail: senbmb@nbnet.nb.ca

Chairman: Gérald Dupuis
Vice: Paul Gaudet
Secretary: Gerard Dupuis
Manager: Neil Silliker
Silviculture Manager: Steven Spears


Southern New Brunswick Forest Products Marketing Board
13 Drurys Cove Road
P. O. Box 4473, Sussex, NB, E4E 5L6

Telephone: (506) 433-9860
Fax: (506) 433-3623
Web: www.snbfpmb.ca 
E-mail: chris.spencer@snbfpmb.ca

Chairman: John Sabine
Vice Chairman : William Richards
Treasurer: Bruce Colpitts
Secretary: Luther MacCallum
General Manager: Chris Spencer
Silviculture Manager: Chris Spencer


York-Sunbury-Charlotte Forest Products Marketing Board
680 Strickland Lane
P.O. Box 424-Stn A
Fredericton, NB, E3B 4Z9

Telephone: (506) 444-6644
Fax: (506) 444-6630
Web Site: www.yscnb.ca
E-mail: yscfredericton@yscnb.ca

Chairman: Dale Mowry
Vice: Gaetan Bolduc
Secretary/Treasurer: Vacant
Manager: Jeff Sode

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8HNzaABZww&ab_channel=StopSprayinginNBSSNB 

 

 


 

Political Debate on Forestry Related Concerns / Solutions (Video 1/2)

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Sep 6, 2018

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All-Party debate September 5, 2018 Hosted by New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners Location: Sussex, NB Hosts: SNB


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 20:52:52 -0400
Subject: ATTN David Duncan Young I just met your nasty little buddy
Chris Spencer of SNB tonight
To: david.young@mcinnescooper.com, snb@nb.aibn.com,
devans@coxandpalmer.com, markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>,
Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com, news <news@dailygleaner.com>, "steve.murphy"
<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"Davidc.Coon" <Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, davidcoon
<davidcoon@greenpartynb.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>, leader
<leader@greenparty.pe.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.bc.ca>,
"serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

http://www.snbwc.ca/index.html

https://www.mcinnescooper.com/people/david-duncan-young/

https://ca.gofundme.com/legal-defense-fundprivate-woodlots

Manager: Susannah Banks
680 Strickland Lane,
Fredericton, NB E3C 0B5
(506) 459-2990

Email nbfwo@nb.aibn.com

Legal Defense Fund;Private Woodlots



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:40:21 -0400
Subject: Attn Douglas A.M. Evans, QC RE JDI vs SNB I just called your
cell phone and left a voicemail introducing myself Correct?
To: devans@coxandpalmer.com, david.young@mcinnescooper.com,
psteep@mccarthy.ca, jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com,
pfolkins@snbwc.ca, Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com,
daniel.wilcock@canada.ca, "rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com, "Hon.Chrystia.Freeland"
<Hon.Chrystia.Freeland@canada.ca>, "Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc"
<Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
>, "david.wilkins"
<david.wilkins@nelsonmullins.com>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "Jack.Keir" <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>, "greg.byrne"
<greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, jcharest@mccarthy.ca, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, "brian.gallant"
<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, briangallant10 <briangallant10@gmail.com>,
"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Davidc.Coon"
<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, "randy.mckeen" <randy.mckeen@gnb.ca>,
"mckeen.randy" <mckeen.randy@gmail.com>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "jake.stewart" <jake.stewart@gnb.ca>,
"kirk.macdonald" <kirk.macdonald@gnb.ca>, BrianThomasMacdonald
<BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>

http://www.coxandpalmerlaw.com/en/home/lawyers/profile.aspx/devans

Douglas A.M. Evans, QC
Acts as counsel in the Saint John office of Cox & Palmer
DIRECT LINE  (506) 633-2757
Cell: (506) 640-0632
E-MAIL  devans@coxandpalmer.com

Perhaps you should review my blog for the benefit of your clients the AV Group?

It appears to me they don't know how to read Engish. I know for a fact
 that they do bother to answer emails or even return phone calls in
order to introduce me to their lawyer Obviously I had to wait months
for CBC to spill the beans and tell us all who you are N'esy Pas
Premier Gallant, Mr Higgs and Mr Coon???

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/02/lets-see-if-cbc-allows-me-to-post-my.html

Saturday, 18 February 2017

Lets see if CBC allows me to post my comments agreeing with others and
their opinions of the Irving Empire

Need I say HMMM?

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:18:56 -0400
Subject: RE JDI vs SNB
To: psteep@mccarthy.ca, bdsaw@mccarthy.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:10:07 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for
ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at
(506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind
his back N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be
assured  that your email will be reviewed and if a response is
requested, it will be forthcoming.


Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez assuré(e) que votre  courriel sera examiné
et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:09:19 -0400
Subject: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya
the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506)
737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his
back N'esy Pas?
To: premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, woodlot@nbnet.nb.ca,
nsfpmb@nbnet.nb.ca, odvdm@nbnet.nb.ca, info@cvwpa.ca, david hughson
<david.hughson@fredericton.ca>
, "rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>, "terry.seguin" <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>,
COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>,
newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>

https://411.ca/business/profile/983931

JEANNOT VOLPE
314E RUE PRINCIPALE
Saint-Jacques
New Brunswick, Canada
 E7B 1X3

Phone (506) 737-4436,

Need I say that the sneaky lawyer Brian Mosher knows why I found this
stuff VERY interesting?

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/en/ForestsCrownLands/FPC/2013-2014.pdf

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/fr/ForetsEtTerresDeLaCouronne/ForProdCommission_YSC_Investigation_Report_Final.pdf

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:58:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Jean Bertin (506 444-5298) RE JDI vs SNB We just talked
about what I heard and read in CBC this morning Here is the email I
promised
To: jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca

Trust that don't believe one word that Jeannot Volpé has to say on the topic.

Everybody knows that his former politcal boss Bernie Lord promised to
reverse the LIEbrano actions of changing the primary source of wood if
and when he won his first mandate and then the Conservatives NEVER
did.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-wood-marketing-boards-dispute-1.3966168


Industry dispute with wood marketing boards needs government action,
says ex-minister
Jeannot Volpé says marketing board should be 'primary source' of wood
for industry on trial basis

By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 06, 2017 6:30 AM AT Last
Updated: Feb 06, 2017 6:30 AM AT
Jeannot Volpé, a former natural resources minister, says the province
should show leadership in the dispute between industry players and
private wood marketing boards

Jeannot Volpé, a former natural resources minister, says the province
should show leadership in the dispute between industry players and
private wood marketing boards (ICI.Radio-Canada)
9 shares


    New Brunswick Crown Forestry Debate
    J.D. Irving launches suit against woodlot groups
    Irving continues to harvest Crown land despite ban
    Low wood prices hurting rural economies, woodlot manager says

Former New Brunswick natural resources minister Jeannot Volpé says it
is time for the province to show leadership in the dispute between
industry and woodlot marketing boards.

Volpé says the government should consider a requirement that
industrial players like J.D. Irving, Limited. buy a portion of their
wood from New Brunswick's forest product marketing boards as a
condition for access to trees on Crown land.
hl-jeannot-volpe

Jeannot Volpé was minister in the Progressive Conservative government
of Bernard Lord that took office in 1999. (CBC)

The so-called "primary source" rule was abandoned in 1992 but should
be reintroduced on a trial basis, says Volpe, who was minister of
natural resources and energy from 1999 to 2003 in the Bernard Lord
government.

Volpé says a current lawsuit launched by J.D. Irving will only do more
damage to already struggling woodlot groups.

"Going to those courts costs a lot of money," said Volpé. "And for a
marketing board to invest $100,000 in a court case, it's a lot of
money. For a big company who will recover it over cheaper wood
long-term, it's an investment."
Lawsuit filed by J.D. Irving

J.D. Irving has filed a legal action against the SNB Forest Products
Marketing Board and the SNB Wood Co-operative.

The lawsuit asks the Court of Queen's Bench to declare a contract
between the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group,
the SNB Wood Cooperative, unlawful.

It is the latest in a series of moves by J.D. Irving to break the hold
New Brunswick's wood marketing boards have over sales from private
woodlots.

At the root of the case is a January 2016 order issued by the
co-operative declaring that wood from private woodlots can only be
sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the
board.
crown wood

Jeannot Volpé, a former natural resources minister, says province
should make industry players buy wood from marketing boards before
taking it from Crown land. (CBC)

The dispute dates back decades but the most recent round began in 2012
when J.D. Irving Ltd. stopped signing contracts to buy wood from the
SNB Forest Products Marketing Board.

Along the way, J.D. Irving Ltd. lost appeals to both the New Brunswick
Forest Products Commission and the New Brunswick Court of Appeal.

Despite those setbacks the company continues to contract wood sales
directly with private woodlot owners, rather than with SNB.

It has also filed a second appeal to the Forest Products Commission
arguing that the SNB board's order is not valid.

    'It seems like industry's got all the cards.'
    - Jeannot Volpé, ex-natural resources minister

Volpé says there have been times in past decades when marketing boards
failed to honour contracts made with the big companies.

But the pendulum, he says, has swung in the other direction.

"Right now it's moved to the other way around where it seems like
industry's got all the cards," said Volpé. "This is for government to
decide and [they] don't seem to be ready to do it."

Irving defends its purchase record

In a written statement J.D. Irving vice-president Jason Limongelli
defended the lawsuit and the company's record of purchasing from
private woodlots.

"This is not a lawsuit against woodlot owners or wood producers," said
Limongelli. "The application is intended to prevent disruption to the
flow of private wood and protect the manner in which wood purchases
have been successfully conducted over the past number of years."

The company's allegations have not been tested in court.

    J.D. Irving launches suit against woodlot groups
    J.D. Irving and woodlot owners feud over price
    J.D. Irving Ltd. loses private wood appeal

Limongelli goes on to say the company's purchase of private wood has
increased 200 per cent over the past 10 years.

"This year, JDI's private wood and stumpage purchase programs resulted
in a record volume of private wood purchases," said Limongelli.

"The company has purchased 46 per cent more wood than last year, and
are on track for the highest volume of private wood purchases in the
company's history."

J.D. Irving did not respond to a question by CBC News for the
company's position on the role of the forest product marketing boards.

Jean Bertin responded in an email on behalf of the government, which
he said supports "the current practices" for wood flow.

"Private wood harvest levels have steadily increased since 2010 and
continue to flow at high levels in 2016/17. Private woodlot volumes
have returned to similar levels experienced before the economic
downturn in 2007.

"With the current levels of private wood harvesting back to historic
levels, there does not appear to be a market issue."

Bertin said the closure of pulp mills has created an oversupply of
low-grade material in the Atlantic region and the province is looking
to find other uses for low-grade material.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 04:39:38 -0400
Subject: Attn Krishna Khaitan RE Aditya Birla Group and the JDI
lawsuit Whereas you did not get back to me yesterday I called your HQ
in India today at 91-22-6652 5000
To: pragnya.ram@adityabirla.com, Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, John.Pecman@canada.ca,
daniel.wilcock@canada.ca, arthur.carson@canada.ca,
keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
pat.bourgoin@avg.adityabirla.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, "rick.doucet"
<rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>, newsroom
<newsroom@globeandmail.ca>

-----Original Message-----
From: Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:39 AM
To: David Amos
Subject: RE: Fwd: Attn Ricky Doucet and Brucey Northrup RE Windsor
Energy suing Brucey versus JDI suing SNB, my concerns about Hospira
versus A-48-16 and Donald Trump, Trudeau "The Younger" and everyone
else's concerns about NAFTA etc these dayz

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be
assured that your email will be reviewed and if a response is
requested, it will be forthcoming.

Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez assuré(e) que votre  courriel sera examiné
et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.


---------- Original message ----------
From: Carson, Arthur (IC)  arthur.carson@canada.ca
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:40 AM
To: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Subject: Automatic reply: Fwd: Attn Ricky Doucet and Brucey Northrup
RE Windsor Energy suing Brucey versus JDI suing SNB, my concerns about
Hospira versus A-48-16 and Donald Trump, Trudeau "The Younger" and
everyone else's concerns about NAFTA etc these dayz

Je suis absent du bureau en ce moment sans l'acces au courrier
electronique et serai de retour mardi, le 7 fevrier. S'il s'agit d'une
question urgente, veuillez communiquer avec Sylvie-Ann Fortier à
514-283-8491. Sinon, je communiquerai avec vous à mon retour. Merçi.

------------------------------
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I am currently out of the office with no access to email and returning
on Tuesday, February 7th. If this is urgent, please call Sylvie-Ann
Fortier at 514-283-8491, otherwise I will follow-up with you upon my
return. Thank you.


---------- Original message ----------
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Póstur FOR
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:39 AM
To: David Amos
Subject: Re: Fw: Fwd: Attn Ricky Doucet and Brucey Northrup RE Windsor
Energy suing Brucey versus JDI suing SNB, my concerns about Hospira
versus A-48-16 and Donald Trump, Trudeau "The Younger" and everyone
else's concerns about NAFTA etc these dayz

Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 13:59:29 -0400
Subject: Attn Ricky Doucet and Brucey Northrup RE Windsor Energy suing
Brucey versus JDI suing SNB, my concerns about Hospira versus A-48-16
and Donald Trump, Trudeau "The Younger" and everyone else's concerns
about NAFTA etc these dayz
To: "bruce.northrup" <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "John.Pecman"
<John.Pecman@cb-bc.gc.ca>, John.Pecman@canada.ca,
daniel.wilcock@canada.ca, arthur.carson@canada.ca,
keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca, ckeating@snbwc.ca,
rwebster@snbwc.ca, nbfwo@nb.aibn.com, yscfredericton@yscnb.ca,
"David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com,
pat.bourgoin@avg.adityabirla.com, mmsenb@nb.aibn.com,
lcsenb@nb.aibn.com, david <david@lutz.nb.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
"bill.pentney" <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2" <denis.landry2@gnb.ca>,
HWetston@osc.gov.on.ca, "rick.hancox" <rick.hancox@nbsc-cvmnb.ca>,
curtis@marinerpartners.com, oig@sec.gov, oig@ftc.gov, postur
<postur@for.is>, "Andrew.Bailey" <Andrew.Bailey@fca.org.uk>,
"Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc" <Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
>,
darouse@porlaw.com, fmcelman@stewartmckelvey.com, bdysart
<bdysart@smss.com>, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, premier
<premier@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
Connell.Smith@cbc.ca, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "rick.doucet"
<rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn" <Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, "david.hansen"
<david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: president <president@whitehouse.gov>, "James.Comey"
<James.Comey@ic.fbi.gov>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

Does anyone Ricky Baby Doucet or anyone else recall this email???

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Doucet, Rick (LEG)" <Rick.Doucet@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:07:58 +0000
Subject: RE: Final Docs
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Will get right on this.
Always look forward to your brilliant thoughts.
R


Hon.Rick Doucet
Legislative member for Charlotte-the isles
28 Mt.Pleasant Rd.
St.George, N.B. E5C 3K4

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Well the far from Honourble LIEbrano Rick Doucet, Canada's he latest
Commissioner of Competition, John Pecman, his lawyers, CBC, their
lawyers, your buddies such as Mary Keith, Pam Folkins and David Coon
and YOU know as well as I that just like the AV Group I have the right
to intervene.

Canadian Leads and Contacts for NAFTA Committees and Working Groups

http://www.international.gc.ca/trade-agreements-accords-commerciaux/agr-acc/nafta-alena/contacts.aspx?lang=eng

Lead: Arthur Carson
Competition Law Officer, Competition Bureau
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
Tel: 514-283-9946
Email: arthur.carson@canada.ca

Daniel Wilcock
Assistant Deputy Commissioner of Competition, International Affairs Directorate
Competition Bureau
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
Tel: 819-934-5646
Email: daniel.wilcock@canada.ca

http://www.cba.org/Sections/Competition-Law/Committees/International

Mandate

The International Committee keeps the Section members informed about
new laws, key cases, enforcement trends and policy developments of
interest in other jurisdictions, as well as foreign bar associations
and regulatory agency developments. The committee also coordinates the
preparation of comments and analyses of policy initiatives and
competition law developments in foreign countries with relevant
committees.


Daniel Wilcock
Vice-Chair/Vice-président
Email: daniel.wilcock@canada.ca
Website: www.cb-bc.gc.ca



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-launches-suit-against-woodlot-groups-1.3962317

J.D. Irving launches suit against woodlot groups
Legal action follows attempt by SNB board to assert authority over
wood purchases
By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 02, 2017 6:30 AM AT

J.D. Irving Ltd. has launched a lawsuit against two groups
representing private woodlot owners in southern New Brunswick.

The outcome could have far-reaching implications for the way private
wood is bought and sold in New Brunswick and the price obtained by
individual woodlot owners.

The lawsuit asks the Court of Queen's Bench to declare a contract
between the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group,
the SNB Wood Cooperative, unlawful.

At the root of the case is a 2015 order issued by the co-operative
declaring that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the
marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.

JDI stopped buying wood from SNB in 2012 but has been making deals
directly with woodlot owners within SNB's provincially designated
boundaries.

In its statement of claim, JDI says the SNB marketing board has
unlawfully delegated its powers to the SNB co-operative.

In issuing its order, SNB cited the province's Natural Products Act.

"JDI is directly and adversely affected by the unlawful delegation of
the SNB Board's powers and function to the Co-op," the company says in
its statement of claim.
Allegations not tested in court

The company's allegations have not been tested in court.

Another company, AV Group, with mills in Nackawick and Atholville, has
applied to be an intervener in the case, suggesting the implications
could be felt provincewide.

"It's going to be a challenging few years for the industry," said
Susannah Banks, manager of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot
Owners. "There is a move toward more direct contracts with brokers as
opposed to contracts with marketing boards."

Green Party Leader David Coon said woodlot owners are being hurt while
the province fails to enforce its own regulations specifying that a
fixed proportion of wood must be purchased from private woodlots
before Crown wood can be harvested.

"It's a classic case of injustice," said Coon.

"Can you imagine if family farmers were treated this way or lobster
fishermen were treated this way? There would be a revolution in parts
of New Brunswick."

It's an issue New Brunswick's auditor general, Kim MacPherson, waded
into in her 2015 report.

"We have concluded the Department of Natural Resources does not meet
its principal responsibilities under legislation respecting timber
supply from private forest lands," said the report.

"The Department's failure to comply with its own legislation and
provide leadership on private wood supply issues through a
well-defined role and clear objectives contributes to uncertainty for
private woodlot owners and conflicts within the marketing board
system."

Both SNB's general manager, Pam Folkins, and J.D. Irving's Mary Keith
said they cannot comment on the lawsuit because the matter is before
the courts.

Mary Keith
Vice President Communications
J.D. Irving, Limited
Saint John, NB
Phone: (506) 632-5122
Email: keith.mary@jdirving.com

SNB Wood Co-op Ltd.,
P.O. Box 4473
Sussex, New Brunswick,
E4E 5L6
Phone: 1-506-433-9860 / 1-888-762-1555
Fax: 1-506-433-3623
email: snb@nb.aibn.com

http://www.av-group.ca/en/news



http://nbwoodlotowners.ca/board-members/

Board Members

Rick Doucett, President
Jean Guy Comeau, Vice President
John Sabine, Secretary/Treasurer
Patrick Doucet
Marcel Maillet
Rodney Mott
Linda Bell
Dick Bellefleur

Phone: (506) 459-2990
Email: nbfwo@nb.aibn.com

Furthermore I still can intervene in this matter as well N'esy Pas
Premier Gallant?

http://www.cbc.ca/shift/2014/08/18/connell-smith-has-details-on-windsor-energy-suing-province/

Monday August 18, 2014
Connell Smith Has Details On Windsor Energy Suing Province
The president of Calgary's Windsor Energy is suing the provincial
government and former Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup for
over 100 million dollars.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/windsor-energy-lawsuit-bruce-northrup-1.3312108

Windsor Energy's $105M lawsuit against province suffers blow
Court rules many claims against government, Bruce Northrup fall
outside legal limits
CBC News Posted: Nov 10, 2015 11:32 AM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bruce-northrup-windsor-energy-appeal-1.3876483

Bruce Northrup seeks appeal of ruling Windsor Energy's testing in
Sussex was legal
Former natural resources minister asking New Brunswick Court of Appeal
to hear appeal of Nov. 3 decision
By Alan White, CBC News Posted: Dec 01, 2016 3:43 PM AT

Former natural resources minister Bruce Northrup is asking New
Brunswick's highest court to hear an appeal of a recent decision that
Windsor Energy Inc.'s seismic testing in Sussex in 2011 was legal.

Northrup is being sued by the oil and gas company and its president,
Khalid Amin, for $105 million in damages for publicly stating the
company violated the provincial Oil and Natural Gas Act by carrying
out seismic testing in Sussex without permission from the
municipality.

However, in a Nov. 3 decision, Court of Queen's Bench Justice Judy
Clendening ruled municipal permission wasn't needed because the
company's permit had the authorization of the provincial
Transportation Department to test within the right-of-way of Highway
1, which runs through Sussex and is where the testing was being
carried out.

    Windsor Energy's 2011 seismic testing in Sussex was legal: judge

"It is clear that the plaintiffs did not need prior written consent
from the municipality," Clendening said in her decision.

"The plaintiffs do not require consent unless the testing is carried
out on municipal land."
The word 'or' at issue

Clendening's ruling dealt with the interpretation of Section 17 (1) of
the Oil and Natural Gas Act. It states a company with a permit shall
not work:

    Within the bounds of a municipality unless it has the
municipality's consent in writing, or
    Within any highway right-of-way without the written consent of the
district transportation engineer.

hi-nb-windsor-energy

Windsor Energy carried out seismic testing in the right-of-way for
Highway 1 in Sussex in 2011 with the authorization of the
transportation department.

Clendening ruled that because of the "or" in the subsection,
permission is needed from either the municipality or the
transportation department, not from both.

Northup's lawyers are now asking the New Brunswick Court of Appeal to
hear an appeal of that decision. They contend Clendenning made errors
in law by:

    Failing to read the words of Section 17 (1) of the Oil and Natural
Gas Act "in their grammatical and ordinary sense."
    Substituting "on municipal land" for the phrase "within the bounds
of a municipality
    Substituting the "New Brunswick Highway Corporation" for the
"district transportation engineer"
    Interpreting the word "or" between paragraphs (a)  and (b) of the
subsection as being exclusive and prioritizing (b) over (a).

Arguments on Northrup's motion seeking leave to appeal the ruling are
to be heard by a justice of the Court of Appeal on Dec. 12.
Amin not surprised

Windsor Energy Inc. president and CEO Khalid Amin is not surprised
Bruce Northrup is asking for an appeal to be heard of a recent ruling
that his company's seismic testing in Sussex in 2011 was legal. (CBC)

Northrup's request for an appeal to be heard doesn't surprise Amin.

"We certainly expected that," Amin said. "Obviously, I would say
[Clendening's ruling] is detrimental to their defence.

"If we didn't violate the Oil and Natural Gas Act as they allege, he's
gone out of his way to harm Windsor Energy by making statements and
then taking the file to the RCMP.

    Bruce Northrup stands by his actions in Windsor Energy dispute
    N.B. files RCMP complaint against Windsor Energy

"He was coming after us pretty heavy in the media and that made
national news, not just local New Brunswick news."

The initial lawsuit for defamation, injurious falsehood and
misfeasance in public office also named the provincial government as a
respondent, but Windsor Energy and Amin agreed to drop the province
from the lawsuit after another court ruling found their claims fall
outside the type of claims permitted under the Proceedings Against the
Crown Act.

Amin said dropping the province doesn't change the damages being
sought from Northrup, who was acting as a minister of the Crown.

"That doesn't change at all, but obviously that's up to a judge
ordering a judgment," said Amin.

"There's a lot of room between where we are today and what that would entitle."

The statement of claim in the lawsuit states negative publicity
resulting from the case drove away potential investors, which led to
the company losing its exploration licences.

I know that you people and CBC think I am joke. However I think even
less of you. It seems to me that you people wish forget that you draw
your fancy wages and later collect big pensions sourced from the tax
dollars of my fellow Canadains who you purportedly serve in an ethical
fashion YEA Right just like the old document hereto attached attests..

http://www.cbc.ca/shift/2014/08/18/connell-smith-has-details-on-windsor-energy-suing-province/

Monday August 18, 2014
Connell Smith Has Details On Windsor Energy Suing Province
The president of Calgary's Windsor Energy is suing the provincial
government and former Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup for
over 100 million dollars.

http://www.av-group.ca/en/news

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/windsor-energy-lawsuit-bruce-northrup-1.3312108

At leasty your hero Trump the lastest Yankee president  cannot deny
what the local Irving news rag reported about my words about NAFTA and
Forestry etc many moons ago EH Mr Wannabe jouralist Chucky Leblanc?

These words can still be found within your old blog about GOLD being
found in Sussex. N'esy Pas?

BTW Its funny how the Hollywood Movie called GOLD changes a Canadian
story about our crooked Stock Market and the corrupt RCMP and changes
it to a story about the Yankee Stock Market and the corrupt FBI EH
James Comey?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_(2016_film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X

Does anyone recall what I said about gold during the last election?



Found Gold in New Brunswick!!!
Charles LeBlanc
5,598 views
Published on Jun 18, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWadjJoz9n8

http://oldmaison.blogspot.ca/2005/09/sussex-gold-found-and-bernard-lords.html

Thursday, September 29, 2005
SUSSEX - GOLD FOUND AND BERNARD LORD'S OPINION!!!!

Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd

By Erin Hatfield

"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
world is all screwed up, rearrange it."

The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
unofficial, theme song for the debate.

The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as
they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue
chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent
left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards
the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.

The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage
of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record
and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.

Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates
responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the
exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices.
Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each
other on their answers and criticizing eachothers’ party leaders.
Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the
questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic
relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in
response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's
getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."

Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but
well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am
on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better
places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters
shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.

The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At
one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in
front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the
voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to
Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second
readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at
final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to
register sex offenders rather than register the property of law
abiding citizens."

The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.

Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You’re out of touch," Armstrong
yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged
Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time,
anyplace," Armstrong responded.

As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate,
candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and
fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making
process for the June 28 vote.

Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his
favourite possessions—motorcycles.

McKnight/KCR

The Unconventional Candidate

David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….

By Gisele McKnight

FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.

The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife
and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
running for office in Canada.

One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail
to meet Elections Canada requirements.

When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his
favourite place to do so—Fundy.

Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
dissatisfaction with politicians.

"I’ve become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he
said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."

The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in
1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he
needed to change his life.

"I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that
sometimes in midlife."

So Amos, who’d lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
Panhead motorcycle.

"Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact)
experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you
renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask
for anything, but you take what they offer."

For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs
and conversation all over North America.

Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son
and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls
himself.

He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist
rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud
Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."

Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.

"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said.
"It’s alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"

Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.

"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."

And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.

"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s
not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."

What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing,
farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m
death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
(NAFTA) out the window.

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.

"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."

Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have
your X by his name.

"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and
say, ‘what the hell.’"


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:49:33 -0400
Subject: BTW This by Justice Stratas et al decision was why I was calling
To: rraizenne@osler.com, Simon.Petit@justice.gc.ca, lscheim@osler.com,
ameghji@osler.com, marie-andree.legault@justice.gc.ca,
Philippe.Dupuis@justice.gc.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, "Diane.Lebouthillier"
<Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca>, "hon.jane.philpott"
<hon.jane.philpott@canada.ca>

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fca/doc/2016/2016fca233/2016fca233.pdf

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Legault, Marie-Andrée" <Marie-Andree.Legault@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 20:20:00 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : RE Hospira and A-48-16 I just called
you folks my concerns about the document hereto attached Please Enjoy
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Je serai absente du bureau jusqu'au 20 décembre 2016. Vous pouvez
contacter mon adjointe Marie-Laure Navay au 514-283-7866. I will be
out of the office until December 20,2016. You may contact my assistant
Nancy Madore at 514-283-7866

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:19:52 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE Hospira and A-48-16 I just called you folks my
concerns about the document hereto attached Please Enjoy
To: rraizenne@osler.com, Simon.Petit@justice.gc.ca, lscheim@osler.com,
ameghji@osler.com, marie-andree.legault@justice.gc.ca,
Philippe.Dupuis@justice.gc.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, "Diane.Lebouthillier"
<Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca>, "hon.jane.philpott"
<hon.jane.philpott@canada.ca>

Federal Court of Appeal grants minister of health the right to be wrong
October 24, 2016

https://gowlingwlg.com/en/canada/insights-resources/federal-court-of-appeal-grants-minister-of-health-the-right-to-be-wrong

Federal Court of Appeal simplifies the standard of review of
prothonotary decisions

https://www.osler.com/en/resources/regulations/2016/federal-court-of-appeal-simplifies-the-standard-of

http://www.canadianlawlist.com/listingdetail/company/justice-canada-722093/

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9e étage
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Phone: 514-283-8002
Fax: 514-283-3103

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:25:37 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE Hospira and A-48-16 I just called you folks my
concerns about the document hereto attached Please Enjoy
To: warren@sprigings.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fca/doc/2016/2016fca215/2016fca215.html

>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Póstur FOR
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
>>> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
>>> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
>>> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
>>> to be..
>>> To: David Amos
>>>
>>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received
>>>
>>> Kveðja / Best regards
>>> Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the docket
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>>
>>> These are digital recordings of  the last two hearings
>>>
>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>>
>>> Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>>
>>> This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again
>>>
>>> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
>>> Campaign, Rogers TV
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
>>>
>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> 902 800 0369
>>>

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:13:28 -0400
Subject: OH MY MY I presume that the RCMP and the rest of you all
thought I was joking last year N'esy Pas Gilles Moreau, Gilles Blinn,
Serge Rousselle and Brucy Baby Northrup?
To: "Gilles.Moreau" <Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>,
fmcelman@stewartmckelvey.com, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "bruce.northrup" <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>,
jmarks@stewartmckelvey.com, darouse@porlaw.com, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
"Davidc.Coon" <Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, "Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc"
<Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca
>, "hon.melanie.joly"
<hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>, "Mark.Wright"
<Mark.Wright@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, david <david@lutz.nb.ca>,
"Alaina.Lockhart" <Alaina.Lockhart@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, BrianThomasMacdonald
<BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, premier
<premier@gnb.ca>, "Paul.Lynch" <Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>
, premier
<premier@gov.ab.ca>, "graham.milner" <graham.milner@sussex.ca>,
bbachrach <bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net>, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
"Boston.Mail" <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>, DJT <DJT@trumporg.com>, dgann
<dgann@vitp.ca>, mcohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>, Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca,
"randy.mckeen" <randy.mckeen@gnb.ca>, "mckeen.randy"
<mckeen.randy@gmail.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>
, briangallant10
<briangallant10@gmail.com>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
"alan.white" <alan.white@cbc.ca>

Davey Boy lutz and Brucey Baby Northrup and their  bible pounding pals
Rob Moore, Graham Milner and  Mark Wright the ex radio host/Town
Councilor/Liebrano.and their many buddies in the RCMP must recall what
I said on the local radio station in Sussex two days before polling
day las year N'esy Pas prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" and Mr
President elect Donald Trump???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgTsmzbasCA&t=50s

The CROWN Versus Mean Old Me
David Amos
Published on Oct 18, 2015

Just Listen or Read

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/06/re-anti-frackers-etc-interesting_28.html

After listening to the above please enjoy a little update since
October 19th, 2015 that the FBI and the RCMP and many other corrupt
cops cannot deny being made well aware of

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dale Morgan <dale.morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:26:57 -0400
Subject: Re: I must say that Tom Henheffer just called the wrong
Maritimer a liar just like you did a year ago EH Dale Morgan of the
RCMP?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I am AOL returning April 18th. Sgt. Alain DESROSIER (Grand Bay  -
Westfield) will be acting in my absence.  I will have my cell if you
need me. (506)435-4598.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 17:23:48 +0000
Subject: Re: Attn Dominic Leblanc whereas Prime Minister Sigmundur
David Gunnlaugsson does does not wish assistance from me perhaps you
can convince your boss PM Trudeau "The Younger" to explain my latest
blog, this email and the documents hereto attached to our fellow
Canadain
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
to be..
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office


This is the docket

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T

These are digital recordings of  the last two hearings

Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug

Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015

This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again

Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
Campaign, Rogers TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html

83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:

January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate

December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!

Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau

Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.

When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
campaign of 2006.

What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.

What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.

The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.

President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
“moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.

One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
“world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
are not.

Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
“humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”

In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
“the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.

My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.

Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.

Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now

From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
alive
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>,
dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
<smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
susan@blueskystrategygroup.com, Don@blueskystrategygroup.com,
eugene@blueskystrategygroup.com, americas@aljazeera.net
Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
<whistleblower@ctv.ca>

I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact  that  your
old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
interesting though

http://www.blueskystrategygroup.com/index.php/team/don-newman/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/media/story/2010/05/04/al-jazeera-english-launch.html

Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right

The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
shy political animal

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

Enjoy Mr Weston
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/2011/05/15/weston-iraq-invasion-wikileaks.html

"But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
including a Canadian general.

That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."

http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/06/canada-and-united-states.html

"I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
"veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
into the US policy.

At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
were deployed WMD.

Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
(and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.

There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
are to met before US troop can redeploy?  Prime Minister Jean Chretien
and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
George W Bush administration was onerous

American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
....not necessarily in that order. "

You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
Adams? of the CSE within the DND?

http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome/Pages/ContactUSSOCOM.aspx



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:03:58 -0400
Subject: The RCMP, the FBI and the not so funny Yankee lawyer Barry
Bachrach should explain to Blaine Higgs why Byron Prior and I are not
crazy N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc?
To: Barry Bachrach <bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net>,
Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov, washington field
<washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "john.warr" <john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, "Stephane.vaillancourt"
<Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>,
"Stephen.Horsman" <Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>, "Dale.Morgan"
<Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
, wayne.easter@parl.gc.ca,
"roger.l.brown" <roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
,
john.thompson@mppac.ca, "steven.blaney" <steven.blaney.a1@parl.gc.ca>,
"steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, national@mppac.ca, MulcaT
<MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, Arthur Topham <radical@radicalpress.com>,
oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, Barry Winters
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, patrick_doran1 <patrick_doran1@hotmail.com>,
"dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, brian.hodgson@assembly.ab.ca,
"blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>


---------- Original message ----------
From: Barry Bachrach <bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 20:25:07 -0400
Subject: RE: RE My calls to the RCMP and the lawyer Rob Moore MP today
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, David Amos
<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Cc: "Dale.Morgan" <Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
, rob.moore.c1@parl.gc.ca,
wayne.easter@parl.gc.ca, "roger.l.brown"
<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
, john.thompson@mppac.ca,
"steven.blaney" <steven.blaney.a1@parl.gc.ca>, acampbell
<acampbell@ctv.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
national@mppac.ca, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, Arthur Topham
<radical@radicalpress.com>, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
patrick_doran1 <patrick_doran1@hotmail.com>, "dan. bussieres"
<dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, brian.hodgson@assembly.ab.ca, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>

yo



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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:48:46 -0400
Subject: YEA RIGHT Cearly the FBI in Beantown got my message anyway
EH? Remember my last calls to you nasty Yankee bastards? You recorded
them CORRECT? Now I repeat what the Hell to I do with YANKEE wiretap
tapes? Sell them on Ebay in Europe???
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field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, probb@ottawacitizen.com,
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From: Boston <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 06:21:33 -0400
Subject: RE: YO David Drummond of Google why do you, the FBI and the
RCMP ignore death threats, sexual harrassment and hate speech when it
is PUBLISHED by the evil Zionist Barry Winters who claims to work the
Canadian DND?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

This email address (boston@ic.fbi.gov) is no longer a valid address.
Future email correspondence should be directed to www.tips.fbi.gov.

FBI Boston




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Baumberg, Andrew" <Andrew.Baumberg@cas-satj.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:00:42 -0400
Subject: FW: Attn Andrew Baumberg and William Brooks Commissioner for
Federal Judicial Affairs RE Federal Court File no T-1557-15
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, "Baumberg, Andrew"
<Andrew.Baumberg@cas-satj.gc.ca>

Good afternoon Mr. Amos

In response to your recent e-mail, please note:

·         I called you on Tuesday morning because you called and left
a voice mail for me on Monday. (I did not call you back right away on
Monday because I was at home helping to look after my daughter, who
came down with chickenpox over the week-end.)

·         I am not aware of anyone checking your work on the internet
last Friday.

·         I do not know who sent you an anonymous e-mail on Friday.

·         I have not contacted the RCMP in this regard.

·         I admit that I did not read your email and all its
attachments closely.

·         I “presumed” that you “wanted to talk about electronic
filing” during our call yesterday because (a) that is what you
indicated in your voice mail on Monday that you wanted to talk about
(in your voice-mail message of Monday, March 21, you say: “I want to
discuss what I have been researching about electronic filing, and I
see your name in these documents”), and (b) that is what you were
actually talking about on the call yesterday.

·         I do not deny my knowledge of your assertion that there is
evidence of your possession of police surveillance wiretap tapes filed
in the Public Record of Federal Court.


Best regards, Andrew

Andrew Baumberg
Legal Counsel / Conseiller juridique
Federal Court / Cour fédérale
(613) 947-3177

andrew.baumberg@fct-cf.gc.ca




Roger Brown of the Crown Corp known and his CBC buddies

Chucky and everybody else and his dog have speculated about the
reasons behind Bourque's senselss rampage but I took a wide berth of
that madness. I have had nothing say about it just like with my friend
Dick Oland's murder. I was hoping that the truth would come out during
the trials.Now that his son has been denied bail I will say that I too
don't believe that Dennis was Dick's killer. As for young Bourque
nothing excuses what he defintely did. Many people would like to know
what caused him to go off like he did and no doubt legions of members
of the RCMP are curious as well.. but the evil Librano lawyer David
Lutz made certain that the truth will never be known to the chagrin of
many other lawyers..




I heard Cpl Horsmen confess Chucky that he gave his old boss Gary
Forward a fancy new job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or0CzwHBmgA

Somebody should ask me why that did not surprise me.


Codiac RCMP officers found not responsible for man's death
Fredericton Police Force investigation says Daniel Levesque, 30, died
as a result of stab wounds CBC News Posted: May 23, 2014 10:51 AM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/codiac-rcmp-officers-found-not-responsible-for-man-s-death-1.2651801



http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/untold-story-justin-bourque/

June 15, 2014

The untold story of Justin Bourque

by Tamsin McMahon, Michael Friscolanti and Martin Patriquin

“I don’t know what caused this,” Victor Bourque, Justin’s father,
tells Maclean’s. “A gentle soul like him who wouldn’t hurt a fly all
of a sudden flips over, so there’s something there that’s unanswered
and we’ll only find out as time goes along. Everybody will have to be
patient.”

In the meantime, one chilling possibility has emerged: that Bourque
was bent on revenge, seeking supposed “justice” for a dead Moncton
man, Dan Levesque, who was shot four times last July by a pair of RCMP
officers. At a press conference just two weeks before Bourque walked
out of his trailer for the final time, investigators cleared the two
Mounties of any wrongdoing.

At least one of Levesque’s friends seemed convinced that Bourque was
out for revenge that bloody night. “He’s doing this for us I love this
guy,” the friend posted on Facebook, while the drama was still
unfolding. “He’s righting all the wrongs.”

"If the ensuing investigation unearths any connection to Dan
Levesque’s death, May 23 was a critical day. The Fredericton Police
Service, called in to investigate last July’s shooting, held a press
conference that Friday, exonerating the RCMP officers who shot
Levesque. In fact, Insp. Gary Forward said none of the Mounties’ four
bullets struck a vital organ—and that Levesque ultimately died of the
knife wounds he sustained prior to being shot, not the bullets. (Who
stabbed Levesque, and why, is still under investigation.)

The same day as the news conference, Bourque’s mom and dad posted a
quote to their joint Facebook account. “Sometime you have to stop
worrying, wondering, and doubting,” it read. “Have faith that things
will work out, maybe not how you planned, but just how it’s meant to
be.”


I heard your buddy Roger Brown yapping to your CBC pals this morning

http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2686291078

Then I see this

Roger Brown to retire on 2nd anniversary of Moncton RCMP shootings
Suicide of Cpl. Ron Francis, violence at Rexton shale gas protest also
happened on commanding officer's watch By Alan White, CBC News Posted:
Apr 05, 2016 11:00 AM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/roger-brown-rcmp-retire-moncton-1.3521036

I also heard you drop your buddy Roger Brown's name so the his minions
would give ya a hard time in Rogerville  N'esy Pas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1rIDluDxcI

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/03/yo-woodside-your-buddy-chucky-leblanc.html

Saturday, 8 March 2014

Yo Woodside your buddy Chucky Leblanc suing the Fat Fred City Finest
is a joke but ME suing YOU and your cop pals about my old Harley will
be bigtime comical EH?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Gaudet, Martin" <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:05:23 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court file no T-1557-15 Now this
is interesting As soon as Brad Wall got reelected as Premier he began
blocking my email Go Figure EH David Drummond???
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of office until April 13, 2016.  I will respond to your
e-mail upon my arrival.  Thank you / Merci.

This e-mail communication (including any or all attachments) is
intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is
addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If
you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, any use, review,
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contact the sender and delete the original and any copy of this e-mail
and any printout thereof, immediately. Your co-operation is
appreciated.

Any correspondence with elected officials, employees, or other agents
of the City of Fredericton may be subject to disclosure under the
provisions of the Province of New Brunswick Right to Information and
Protection of Privacy Act.

Le présent courriel (y compris toute pièce jointe) s'adresse
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GOV-OP-073


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Fitch, Leanne" <leanne.fitch@fredericton.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:05:24 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court file no T-1557-15 Now this
is interesting As soon as Brad Wall got reelected as Premier he began
blocking my email Go Figure EH David Drummond???
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Due to a very high volume of incoming email to this account there is
an unusual backlog of pending responses. Your query may not be repleid
to in a timely fashion. If you require a formal response please send
your query in writing to my attention c/o Fredericton Police Force,
311 Queen St, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1 or phone (506) 460-2300.

This e-mail communication (including any or all attachments) is
intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is
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of the City of Fredericton may be subject to disclosure under the
provisions of the Province of New Brunswick Right to Information and
Protection of Privacy Act.

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de la vie privée.

GOV-OP-073


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur IRR <postur@irr.is>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:07:49 +0000
Subject: Re: Re Federal Court file no T-1557-15 Now this is
interesting As soon as Brad Wall got reelected as Premier he began
blocking my email Go Figure EH David Drummond???
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received.

Kveðja / Best regards
Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:07:48 +0000
Subject: Re: Re Federal Court file no T-1557-15 Now this is
interesting As soon as Brad Wall got reelected as Premier he began
blocking my email Go Figure EH David Drummond???
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office


http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/03/yo-woodside-your-buddy-chucky-leblanc.html

Saturday, 8 March 2014

Yo Woodside your buddy Chucky Leblanc suing the Fat Fred City Finest
is a joke but ME suing YOU and your cop pals about my old Harley will
be bigtime comical EH?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 15:53:26 -0400
Subject: Yo Woodside your buddy Chucky Leblanc suig the Fat Fred City
Finest is a joke but ME suing YOU and your cop pals about my old
Harley will be bigtime comical EH?
To: woodsideb <woodsideb@fredericton.ca>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "Leanne.Fitch" <Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>,
"leanne.murray" <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
"Stephen.Chase" <Stephen.Chase@fredericton.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, frankffrost
<frankffrost@hotmail.com>, "Frank.McKenna" <Frank.McKenna@td.com>,
"bruce.northrup" <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "Pete.Berndsen"
<Pete.Berndsen@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
, "roger.l.brown"
<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLsExAsWN0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjonbmIti-o&list=UU_xApcTENOws8eIxoNNWPFQ

From: "MacKenzie, Lloyd (SNB)" lloyd.mackenzie@snb.ca
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:01:27 -0400
Subject: Telephone Conversation re: 1965 Harley-Davidson Motorcycle
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Cc: "Bastarache, Donald J.(SNB)" Donald.Bastarache@snb.ca,
"Morrison, Bill (SNB)" bill.morrison@snb.ca,
"Levesque-Finn, Sylvie(SNB)" Sylvie.Levesque-Finn@snb.ca, "Pleadwell, Derek
(SNB)" Derek.Pleadwell@snb.ca

Mr. Amos:
Upon your request I will inform Mr. Derek Pleadwell[(506)
444-2897], Chairperson SNB Board of Directors, of our extended
conversation regarding the issues surrounding the 1965 Harley-Davidson
motorcycle when he visits my office at approximately 3:30 P.M. today.

Also, as requested, I've copied in Ms. Sylvie Levesque-Finn[ (506)
453-3879 ],SNB President.

Lloyd D. MacKenzie, AACI, P. App, CAE
Regional Manager of Assessment - Beauséjour Region/Responsable
régional de l'évaluation - region Beauséjour
Assessment/ de l'évaluation
Service New Brunswick/ Service Nouveau-Brunswick
633 rue Main St.
4th floor/4ième étage
Moncton, NB E1C 8R3
Tel/Tél: (506) 856-3910
Fax/Téléc: (506) 856-2519


----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca ; martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca ;
ken.cook@fredericton.ca ; carl.urquhart@gnb.ca ; john.foran@gnb.ca ;
jacques_poitras@cbc.ca ; T.J.Burke@gnb.ca ; mackay.p@parl.gc.ca ;
Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ; premier@gov.ns.ca ; leader@greenparty.ca ;
oldmaison@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: Attn Det Louie LaFleur. Who in the Fredericton Police Force
is trying to claim that I do not own my motorcyle registered in New
Hampshire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLsExAsWN0

DavidRaymondAmos (14 minutes ago)
Over my dead body will you ride my old bike Yankee. However I would
dearly love to see you come to my native land to try to steal it like
you did the rest of my property. I will call the Fredericton PD once
again on your behalf to warn them they should protect you from mean
old me. Cya'll in Court Depupty Dog Robert F. O'Meara. P.S I already
contacted Volkswagon America about their interest in your Yankee buddy
the Lemon Law lawyer Angela K. Troccoli

sowicked (29 minutes ago)
Get everything said that you want to say, because I'm taking you out
of the loop. Next time you see me, I'll be riding my 65'.N'est Pas,
jerkoff??

sowicked (34 minutes ago)
What home????What inventory??? You must be talking about MY home. You
never had a home, stupid.N'est Pas??

DavidRaymondAmos (1 hour ago)
I heard that before from your buddies the Fredericton PD and their Tow
Trucking dude Alan MacPhee. How do you or they explain the title they
took their information from for their tickets that the Crown refused
to prosecute Depupty Dog? As far as all the other bikes etc go they
are clearly listed in thn Inventory of MY Clan's home when you and
your pals ripped us off.

sowicked (2 hours ago)
What motorcycles are you talking about? I know you had possesion of
some Harley that the Fredericton PD took possesion of because you
can't show proof of ownership of that bike.Could that be the "stolen"
bike or bikes you are refering to,EH? And that stolen bike was in your
possesion. That figures,EH?

sowicked (5 hours ago)
I don't think anyone other than yourself, really cares about you or
your history as a motorcyclist.You only saw the Harleys that I own,
not my other bikes. Everyone stands up to you, you pussy.Get it, N'est
Pas?

DavidRaymondAmos (13 hours ago)
thanx

photofu (14 hours ago)
i am impressed with your resolve sir..carry on....
DavidRaymondAmos (18 hours ago)
For the record I was the first to view your buddy Dirty Dicky Dean's
latest video about me. Too funny EH Depupty Dog Robert F. O'Meara? It
appears that you forgot to tell your nasty pal of my true history as a
motorcyclist or about all the Kawasakis, Hondas, Yamahas and BMWs etc
that you Yankees stole from me N'est Pas? Hell he even thinks I drink
beer when in fact I never drank one in my life. On the other hand you
have drank enough beer for both of us and have only owned Harleys.
Correct?

DavidRaymondAmos (1 day ago)
She is my minor child Yankee. What part of that fact don't you
understand Depupty Dog Robert F. O'Meara? Do you really think that you
could stand up against me?


From: David Amos
Subject: For the VERY PUBLIC RECORD This is the real cause of Cpl.
Randy Reilly's stress and PTSD
To: oldmaison@yahoo.com, woodsideb@fredericton.ca, dkg@glenngroup.ca,
kadilman@glenngroup.ca, andremurraynow@gmail.com,
sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca, law@stevenfoulds.ca, police@fredericton.ca,
evelyngreene@live.ca, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com, macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com,
sowl@nbnet.nb.ca
Cc: police@edmundston.ca, "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "MacKnightb" <MacKnightb@fredericton.ca>,
danny.copp@fredericton.ca
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 10:54 PM


Yo Danny Boy Bussieres

True or False?

http://archive.org/details/NewBrunswickPoliceCommission

It seems to me that all of Chucky's pals and half of your butt
buddies the Fat Fred City's Finest claim they are mentally ill When
in truth just like you they are just cry baby greedy crooks living off
the fat of the land.

Go figure

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/david-amos-vs-fat-fred-citys-finest.html

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2012/09/why-did-fredericton-police-force-accept.html

Then you nasty bastards violate my rights and my privacy and yet have
the gaul to call me crazy and even falsely claim that I am welfare as
well?

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html

Well Chucky Leblanc and his butt buddy Brad Woodside love listening to
cops on their scanners CORRECT?

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2012/09/fredericton-mayor-brad-woodside-gets.html

Well they ahould LISTEN closely to the radio in the background of these videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLsExAsWN0&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1w7zFUcXng&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGM4t4zUYw&feature=plcp

The mindless Cpl. Reilly was obviously acting against me under orders
from MacKnight. That is why I stopped the videos to listen to what
they were saying. No doubt later MacKnight blamed the circus on
Reilly. Small wonder the Fat Fred City Finest ignored my Freedom of
Information demands and made my Harley and the Yankee wiretap tapes in
its saddlebag evaporate EH?


That said there was some interesting news yesterday though. Alan White
and his very corrupt CBC cronies already know I enjoyed it and pounced
on it in Twitter before I called three lawyers again. Now I will make
the most of it to the max in short order. You have my word on that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bruce-northrup-windsor-energy-appeal-1.3876483

Bruce Northrup seeks appeal of ruling Windsor Energy's testing in
Sussex was legal
Former natural resources minister asking New Brunswick Court of Appeal
to hear appeal of Nov. 3 decision
By Alan White, CBC News Posted: Dec 01, 2016 3:43 PM AT

Former natural resources minister Bruce Northrup is asking New
Brunswick's highest court to hear an appeal of a recent decision that
Windsor Energy Inc.'s seismic testing in Sussex in 2011 was legal.

Northrup is being sued by the oil and gas company and its president,
Khalid Amin, for $105 million in damages for publicly stating the
company violated the provincial Oil and Natural Gas Act by carrying
out seismic testing in Sussex without permission from the
municipality.

However, in a Nov. 3 decision, Court of Queen's Bench Justice Judy
Clendening ruled municipal permission wasn't needed because the
company's permit had the authorization of the provincial
Transportation Department to test within the right-of-way of Highway
1, which runs through Sussex and is where the testing was being
carried out.

    Windsor Energy's 2011 seismic testing in Sussex was legal: judge

"It is clear that the plaintiffs did not need prior written consent
from the municipality," Clendening said in her decision.

"The plaintiffs do not require consent unless the testing is carried
out on municipal land."
The word 'or' at issue

Clendening's ruling dealt with the interpretation of Section 17 (1) of
the Oil and Natural Gas Act. It states a company with a permit shall
not work:

    Within the bounds of a municipality unless it has the
municipality's consent in writing, or
    Within any highway right-of-way without the written consent of the
district transportation engineer.

hi-nb-windsor-energy

Windsor Energy carried out seismic testing in the right-of-way for
Highway 1 in Sussex in 2011 with the authorization of the
transportation department.

Clendening ruled that because of the "or" in the subsection,
permission is needed from either the municipality or the
transportation department, not from both.

Northup's lawyers are now asking the New Brunswick Court of Appeal to
hear an appeal of that decision. They contend Clendenning made errors
in law by:

    Failing to read the words of Section 17 (1) of the Oil and Natural
Gas Act "in their grammatical and ordinary sense."
    Substituting "on municipal land" for the phrase "within the bounds
of a municipality
    Substituting the "New Brunswick Highway Corporation" for the
"district transportation engineer"
    Interpreting the word "or" between paragraphs (a)  and (b) of the
subsection as being exclusive and prioritizing (b) over (a).

Arguments on Northrup's motion seeking leave to appeal the ruling are
to be heard by a justice of the Court of Appeal on Dec. 12.
Amin not surprised
nb-khalid-amin

Windsor Energy Inc. president and CEO Khalid Amin is not surprised
Bruce Northrup is asking for an appeal to be heard of a recent ruling
that his company's seismic testing in Sussex in 2011 was legal. (CBC)

Northrup's request for an appeal to be heard doesn't surprise Amin.

"We certainly expected that," Amin said. "Obviously, I would say
[Clendening's ruling] is detrimental to their defence.

"If we didn't violate the Oil and Natural Gas Act as they allege, he's
gone out of his way to harm Windsor Energy by making statements and
then taking the file to the RCMP.

    Bruce Northrup stands by his actions in Windsor Energy dispute
    N.B. files RCMP complaint against Windsor Energy

"He was coming after us pretty heavy in the media and that made
national news, not just local New Brunswick news."

The initial lawsuit for defamation, injurious falsehood and
misfeasance in public office also named the provincial government as a
respondent, but Windsor Energy and Amin agreed to drop the province
from the lawsuit after another court ruling found their claims fall
outside the type of claims permitted under the Proceedings Against the
Crown Act.

Amin said dropping the province doesn't change the damages being
sought from Northrup, who was acting as a minister of the Crown.

"That doesn't change at all, but obviously that's up to a judge
ordering a judgment," said Amin.

"There's a lot of room between where we are today and what that would entitle."

The statement of claim in the lawsuit states negative publicity
resulting from the case drove away potential investors, which led to
the company losing its exploration licences.

http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.1104956

Sussex mayor denounces seismic testing company
Seismotion official says waiting for council vote would have cost $60,000

CBC News

October 19, 2011
li-nb-seismic-testing-truck
Sussex councillors are upset that seismic testing went ahead in their
town before it was given approval. (CBC)

Sussex Mayor Ralph Carr is denouncing the tactics of a seismic
surveying company as a "monumental" mistake after it pushed ahead with
tests without the town's approval.

The Town of Sussex is now asking Premier David Alward and his
Progressive Conservative government to take action against Seismotion,
which performed tests inside Sussex boundaries on Monday.

"It's a blunder, a big blunder. They should not have done that," Carr said.

"For such a contentious issue and divisive issue that is taking place
in our province, especially southern New Brunswick, they should have
bowed out and said, 'We'll come back or we'll go by you.' Anything,
but do what they did."

Sussex is situated in an area that is believed to be a prime location
for the shale gas industry. But Carr said that some people in his
community are wary of the shale gas industry.

The mayor said the company's actions will make this already divisive
issue even worse in his town.

The Sussex council has sent an unanimous letter to the Alward
government requesting the provincial government take action against
the company.
si-nb-sussex-carr-220

Sussex Mayor Ralph Carr said the company's decision to perform the
testing was a monumental mistake. (CBC)

Sussex mayor’s stern reaction is being reinforced by many of his councillors.

Seismotion originally asked for town approval to do tests within the
community, and councillors arranged the Tuesday meeting just ahead of
the company's scheduled arrival.

But when Seismotion crews found themselves in Sussex two days ahead of
schedule, the company decided not to wait for town consent.

Marc Thorne, the town's deputy mayor, said it's unfortunate the
company pressed ahead with its work despite knowing when the local
council was going to hold its vote.

"They had decided that since the timeframe that they had established
with us wasn't accommodating their accelerated schedule they just went
ahead and did the work. We were angry. We were frustrated," Thorne
said.

"It was done. It was in violation of the act. And there needs to be
consequences," said Coun. Mark Wright.

Coun. Shelley Bradley did not hold back her frustrations when a
Seismotion representative appeared at a council meeting on Tuesday
night.

"When a company goes ahead and does this. Just like completely ignores
the rules, completely just basically says, ‘You know what? Screw you
guys,’" Bradley said.

Alek Dupras, the company's permit agent, said the company has permits
from the departments of Natural Resources and Transportation that
cover testing along highway one even within town limits.

"Waiting for this … meeting represented too much money so they chose
to go forward, understanding they had all the permits necessary for
that," Dupras said.

Seismotion is doing the testing for Windsor Energy.

Mario Levesque, the president of Seismotion, said waiting two days
would have cost $60,000 and he's running out of time to get the work
done. The trucks are going back to Alberta on Oct. 26.

Testing has now moved east between Sussex and Alma.
Latest shale gas controversy

This is the latest controversy in the contentious issue of shale gas
exploration.

Last week, Hampton councillors voted to block seismic testing in town
limits after roughly 70 residents held a peaceful protest.

Hampton is about 40 kilometres southwest of Sussex.

There have been protests across southern New Brunswick against shale
gas exploration and hydro-fracking.

The largest anti-shale gas rally was at the legislature in the summer
when roughly 1,000 protesters amassed in Fredericton.

Alward has said he believes the industry is important to the province,
but he has committed to imposing the toughest standards on the
continent on companies operating in New Brunswick.

He's also said New Brunswickers need to embrace the industry as part
of a new approach to boosting the economy.


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Canada Votes 2008
Results, Ridings and Candidates
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2008 Results
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    Riding Profile
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    2006 Results

    Rob Moore (Incumbent)
    Erik Millett
    Mark Wright
    Rob Moir

Rob Moore

Party: Conservative Party of Canada
Birthdate: May 14, 1974
Age: 34
Birthplace: Gander, N.L.

Education: Bachelor's degree in business, University of New Brunswick;
law degree, University of New Brunswick. Called to the New Brunswick
Bar in 2000.

Profession: Lawyer

Career Background: Articled with the law firm Philip H. Pugsley in
Rothesay, N.B. Worked in the office of the leader of the official
opposition as a policy adviser on justice issues from 2001-2003.

Community Activities: Volunteer with the Boys and Girls Club and with
the March of Dimes.

Electoral History

Federal: Defeated as Canadian Alliance candidate in Fundy-Royal in
2000. Elected as a Conservative candidate in the riding in the 2004
and 2006 general elections.

Political History

Parliament: Was parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General of Canada.

Committee: Member of the Justice and Homan Rights Committee in the
last Parliament, and member of the Legislative Committees on various
bills. Former member of the Legislative Committee on Bill C-38; the
Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure of the Legislative Committee on
Bill C-38; of the Subcommittee on the Process for Appointment to the
Federal Judiciary of the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights,
Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.

Caucus: Member of the Conservative caucus.
Contact information:
Telephone: 888-926-6673
campaign@robmoore.ca

www.robmoore.ca

Erik Millett
Party: Green Party of Canada
Birthplace: Truro, N.S.

Education: Earned a master's degree in education from the University
of New Brunswick, a bachelor of education from St. Thomas University
and a bachelor of arts in international human rights from Carleton
University.

Profession: Teacher

Career Background: He previously worked as a lead teacher and
administrator for New Brunswick's alternative education program, and a
contract consultant with the Katimavik national youth service program.
Currently works as a teacher and school administrator at Belleisle
Elementary School in School District 6.

Community Activities: He served two years as a residence don at the
University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, mentoring and working with
student leaders. He also worked in an outdoor education environment
with Partners for Youth and was a project leader with Katimavik for
three years. He has recently been involved in the Basement Players
theatre group and currently is on the provincial board of directors
for the Conservation Council of New Brunswick.

Electoral History
Federal: Defeated in New Brunswick Southwest in 2004 and 2006.

Contact information:
Telephone: 506-832-2465
millett@canoemail.com
ridings.greenparty.ca

Mark Wright
Party: Liberal Party of Canada
Year of Birth: 1980
Age: 27
Birthplace: Sussex, N.B.
Profession: Salesman

Career Background: Has worked as a sales representative and estimator
with Fawcett Ace Building Centre in Petitcodiac, N.B.

Electoral History

Municipal: Elected as a municipal councillor in Sussex in 2004 and
re-elected in May 2008.

Mailing address:
77A Broad St.
Sussex, N.B.
E4E 2J7

Contact information:
Telephone: 506-432-6141
Fax: 506-432-6943
mark@wright4mp.ca
www.wright4mp.ca

Rob Moir
Party: New Democratic Party of Canada
Profession: Economist; educator; woodlot operator
Marital Status: Married
Name of Spouse: Megan
Children: Three

Career Background: Professor of economics at the University of New
Brunswick in Saint John; has served on the University Senate and
several Senate committees. Member of the Canadian Economics
Association, the American Economics Association, the Economic Science
Association and the International Association for the Study of Common
Property. Vice-president of the Atlantic Canada Economics Association.
Woodlot owner and member of the Southern New Brunswick Woodlot
Co-operative.

Community Activities: Has served on the board of the Clifton Royal
Recreation Council and Peninsula Heritage. Currently acts as chapel
warden and chair of the mission and outreach committee of All Saints'
Church.

Electoral History

Federal: Ran unsuccessfully in this riding in the 2006 general election.

Mailing address:

1031 Main Street
Hampton, N.B.
E5N 6E8

Contact information:
Telephone: 506-832-0570
info@robmoirndp.com
www.robmoirndp.com

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http://www.country94.ca/news/200105142/elections-hampton-and-sussex-today

By-Elections In Hampton And Sussex Today
Posted on Monday, December 8, 2014 05:58 AM

It will be a cold trek to the polls today with municipal by-elections
being held in Sussex and Hampton to fill vacant seats on the two town
councils.

The vacancy in Hampton is because Gary Crossman was elected as the
M-L-A for the Conservatives.

In Sussex, Mark Wright has left to join the RCMP.

The four candidates in Hampton are Chris Rendell, who unsuccessfully
tried to run for the NDP provincially, Mark Reid, who owns an
accounting firm, forester Todd Beach and businessman Robert
Signoretti.

In Sussex, the candidates are former town councillor Kevin Black,
construction worker Melody McKnight, Carl McLellen, a carpenter,
former RCMP officer Graham Milner and life coach Matt White.


http://www.kingswood.edu/where-are-they-now-may-2015/

Mark Wright

After completing the Extreme Discipleship Program at Kingswood in
2000, Mark and his wife Rachel (Fenwick) lived in Sussex, where he
served on the town council and worked at the local radio station, 590
CJCW. He then joined the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. On March 23,
2015, Mark graduated as a Constable. Congratulations! His first post
is in Biggar, Saskatchewan.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Warr <john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:56:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Fwd: For the public record as soon as I read this I
called Julie Dammers Rakes' lawyer Anthony M. Cardinale introduced
myself and the pussy hung up on me (AOL)
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be away on leave from Saturday August 3rd to August 18th
inclusive.  S/Sgt. Steve Gourdeau will be acting Operations Officer
for SE District in my absence.  In the event of an emergency from
August 3rd to 5th, I will have my bb on. (506) 608-7928

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https://www.brookfield.com/about-us/leadership 

 

Mark Carney, Vice Chair, Corporate

Mark Carney

Vice Chair

Mark Carney is a Vice Chair of Brookfield Asset Management and Head of ESG and Impact Fund Investing. In this role, he is focused on the development of products for investors that will combine positive social and environmental outcomes with strong risk-adjusted returns.

Mr. Carney is an economist and banker who served as the Governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020, and prior to that as Governor of the Bank of Canada from 2008 until 2013. He was Chairman of the Financial Stability Board from 2011 to 2018. Prior to his governorships, Mr. Carney worked at Goldman Sachs as well as the Canadian Department of Finance.

He is a long-time and well-known advocate for sustainability, specifically with regard to the management and reduction of climate risks, and is currently the United Nations Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance.

He is also an external member of the Board of Stripe, a global technology company building economic infrastructure for the internet and a member of the Global Advisory Board of PIMCO, the Group of Thirty, the Foundation Board of the World Economic Forum, as well as the boards of Bloomberg Philanthropies, the Peterson Institute for International Economics and the Hoffman Institute for Global Business and Society at INSEAD.

Mr. Carney received a bachelor’s degree in Economics from Harvard University and a master’s degree and doctorate from Oxford University.

 

Barry Blattman

Barry Blattman

Vice Chair

Barry Blattman is Vice Chair of Brookfield Asset Management. In this role, he focuses on senior, strategic client and business relationships, and contributes to general business development and transaction strategy globally. He also serves on the Investment Committees for all of Brookfield’s private fund programs.

Prior to joining Brookfield in 2002, Mr. Blattman was a Managing Director at Merrill Lynch, having begun his career with Salomon Brothers in 1986.

Mr. Blattman holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Michigan and an MBA from New York University. He serves on the boards of Montefiore Medicine and Montefiore Health System, is chairman of Montefiore’s Real Estate Planning & Development Committee, Co-Chair of the University of Michigan’s NY Metropolitan Regional Campaign Council and is a member of The University of Michigan LSA Dean’s Advisory Committee.

 

Bruce Flatt, Chief Executive Officer

Bruce Flatt

Chief Executive Officer

Bruce Flatt is Chief Executive Officer of Brookfield Asset Management, a leading global alternative asset manager with $600 billion in assets under management.

Mr. Flatt joined Brookfield in 1990 and became CEO in 2002. Under his leadership, Brookfield has developed a global operating presence in more than 30 countries.

Prior to his current role, Mr. Flatt ran Brookfield’s real estate and investment operations and has served on numerous public company boards over the past two decades.

 

 

https://bam.brookfield.com/corporate-governance/board-of-directors 

 

Board of Directors

The Honourable Frank J. McKenna, P.C., O.C., O.N.B.

Independent Director

Chair of the Board of Directors
Chair of the Governance and Nominating Committee

Frank McKenna has served as director of Brookfield since August 2006 and Chair of its Board of Directors, since August 2010. A resident of Toronto, Ontario, Canada and Cap-Pelé, New Brunswick, Canada, Mr. McKenna is also Deputy Chair of TD Bank Group, a position he has held since 2006. He currently serves as Chair of the compensation committee for Canadian Natural Resources Limited’s Board of Directors.
 
 
Lord O’Donnell

Affiliated Director

Lord Gus O’Donnell has served as a director of Brookfield since May 2013. A resident of London, U.K., Lord O’Donnell is currently the Chairman of Frontier Economics, a microeconomics consultancy, and a senior advisor to Brookfield in Europe. He served as the Cabinet Secretary and head of the British Civil Service between 2005 and 2011. Prior to this, Lord O’Donnell served as the Permanent Secretary of the U.K. Treasury from 2002 to 2005. Lord O’Donnell became a member of the House of Lords in 2012 and was Chair of Public Interest Board of PwC (UK) from 2015 to 2019.
 
 
Jack L. Cockwell

Affiliated Director

Jack Cockwell has served as a director of Brookfield since September 1979. A resident of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Mr. Cockwell is Chair of Brookfield Partners Foundation, was one of the founders of Partners Limited in 1995. Since 1968, he has been associated with Brookfield in numerous capacities, including as Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Cockwell is a Heritage Governor of the Royal Ontario Museum, Chair of the Ryerson University Real Estate Advisory Committee and a member of its Board of Governors. He has also served on the board of Clarios International L.P. (a Brookfield affiliate) since June 2019.


 https://www.acadiantimber.com/leadership.html

 

Executive Officers

Erika Reilly - President and Chief Executive Officer
Ms. Reilly is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Acadian. Erika has over 15 years of capital markets experience and has been an investment professional with Brookfield since 2006. She has led growth and divestiture initiatives, public and private financings, and has played a key role in restructurings and asset management of timberland and infrastructure businesses. Erika has worked with Acadian since its inception and served as Chief Financial Officer of the company from 2013 to 2016. Erika holds a Bachelor of Commerce in finance from the University of British Columbia.

Adam Sheparski - Chief Financial Officer
Mr. Sheparski is the Chief Financial Officer of Acadian and is responsible for all financial activities including: Investor Relations, Treasury, Reporting, Taxation, and Risk Management. Prior to joining Acadian; Mr. Sheparski held multiple senior executive roles within Empire Company Limited and Sobeys Inc. During this time, he managed multiple M&A transactions, streamlined operations to achieve millions in annual savings, and created structural changes to support long term sustainability for the organization. Mr. Sheparski began his career in 1999 with PricewaterhouseCoopers where he was a CPA CA and led the audits for public clients in the aviation, aerospace, and manufacturing industries. Mr. Sheparski holds a Bachelor of Business Administration from St. Francis Xavier University and is a member of CPA Nova Scotia.

Senior Management

Normand Haché - Senior Vice President, Marketing and Operations
Mr. Haché is the Senior Vice President of Marketing and Operations and is responsible for the operations of Acadian’s 1.1 million acres of private timberlands in New Brunswick and Maine and 1.3 million acres of crown licensed timberlands in New Brunswick. He is also responsible for Acadian’s market strategy and customer relationships. He is a Registered Professional Forester in New Brunswick. He has been involved in managing timberlands for over 35 years and has been with Acadian since its inception. Mr. Haché holds a Bachelor of Science in Forest Engineering from the University of New Brunswick.

Kevin Topolniski - Chief Forester
Kevin is the Chief Forester of Acadian. His experience in the forest industry includes forest operations, forest management planning, computer information systems, environmental management systems and research and development. Prior to his current role, Kevin served in a similar capacity at Fraser Papers for 10 years. With Fraser Papers, Kevin was instrumental in the achievement of sustainable forestry certification on lands currently owned and managed by Acadian in New Brunswick. Kevin is a Registered Professional Forester with more than 30 years experience in the industry.
 

The current Board of Directors comprises five members. The names and biographies of each of the Directors are set forth below.

Malcolm Cockwell

Mr. Cockwell is the Managing Director of Haliburton Forest & Wildlife Reserve, a private land stewardship company that operates a mid-sized hardwood sawmill as well as a diverse ecotourism business, and owns approximately 100,000 acres of hardwood timberland in central Ontario. Having previously served as General Manager of Haliburton Forest since January 2014, he was appointed Managing Director in 2016. In addition to his work with Haliburton Forest, Mr. Cockwell is a PhD Candidate at the Faculty of Forestry at the University of Toronto with research interests focused on hardwood silviculture and processing. He holds a B.Sc. in Forestry from the University of Toronto and is a Registered Professional Forester in Ontario. Mr. Cockwell also serves on the board of directors of Forests Ontario and represents Haliburton Forest at the Ontario Forest Industries Association. Mr. Cockwell is a resident of Haliburton, Ontario, Canada.

Mr. Cockwell has been a Director since May 8, 2018. Mr. Cockwell assumed the role of Chairman on August 20, 2019.

Heather Fitzpatrick

Ms. Fitzpatrick is the President and CEO of Halmont Properties Corporation (TSX Venture: HMT-X). Ms. Fitzpatrick holds a bachelor’s degree in commerce from Memorial University of Newfoundland and has served in a variety of senior accounting roles with the Bank of Montreal and other firms over the last ten years. Halmont invests directly and indirectly in commercial real estate, forest properties, and in securities of companies holding property, energy, and infrastructure assets. Ms. Fitzpatrick is a Chartered Professional Accountant.

Ms. Fitzpatrick has been a Director since August 20, 2019.

Karen Oldfield

Ms. Oldfield was the President and CEO of the Halifax Port Authority, a position which she held for more than 17 years. Ms. Oldfield has global experience in trade development, particularly new markets combined with expertise in supply chain management and logistics. Additionally, Ms. Oldfield currently serves as Chair of the Board of Governors for Saint Mary’s University and is a Director of the Conference Board of Canada.

Ms. Oldfield is the Chair of the Compensation Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee and is the Lead independent Director. Ms. Oldfield has been a Director since May 9, 2019.

Erika Reilly

Ms. Reilly is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Acadian. Erika has over 15 years of capital markets experience and has been an investment professional with Brookfield since 2006. She has led growth and divestiture initiatives, public and private financings, and has played a key role in restructurings and asset management of timberland and infrastructure businesses. Erika has worked with Acadian since its inception and served as Chief Financial Officer of the company from 2013 to 2016. Erika holds a Bachelor of Commerce in finance from the University of British Columbia.

Ms. Reilly has been a Director since May 6, 2021.

Bruce Robertson

Mr. Robertson is the Vice President, Investments of The Woodbridge Company Limited and has held this position since September 2013. Prior to joining Woodbridge, Mr. Robertson held various executive positions at private equity firms focused largely on markets in Canada and the United States. Mr. Robertson received his Bachelor of Commerce (Honours) degree from Queen’s University in 1988 and has served on the board of directors of both private and publicly-listed companies, including his current positions as director of Morguard Corporation and as trustee of Morguard North American Residential REIT. Mr. Robertson is a resident of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

Mr. Robertson is the Chair of Audit Committee. Mr. Robertson has been a Director since February 2018.

 

Our Locations

Edmundston, New Brunswick
365 Canada Road
Edmundston, NB
E3V 1W2
(506) 737-2345

Plaster Rock, New Brunswick
31A Renous Rd,
Plaster Rock, NB
E7G 4B5
(506) 356-4100

Millinocket, Maine
4 Hill Street
Millinocket, Maine
04462
(207) 723-2110

Investor and Media Contact

Adam Sheparski
Chief Financial Officer
Tel: (506) 737-2345
Email: ir@acadiantimber.com

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hamir/?originalSubdomain=ca

 

Hamir Patel

  • Hamir Patel

Executive Director, Equity Research - Paper & Forest Products at CIBC Capital Markets

  • Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 

 

Experience

Volunteer experience

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-sheparski-cpa-ca-4b377a35/?originalSubdomain=ca

 

Adam Sheparski CPA, CA

  • Adam Sheparski CPA, CA

Chief Financial Officer / Acadian Timber Corp. (ADN-T)

  • Acadian Timber Corp.

About

I am a senior finance executive with 20 years of public company experience recognized for building and developing high-performing teams. I have contributed to the operational success of iconic Canadian companies through extensive M&A transactions and business process improvement.
My key strengths include insightful and creative analysis, broad business orientation, M&A experience, international tax planning, process and ERP implementation and optimization, and investor management. Extensive public company experience enables me to anticipate and manage risks, issues, and timelines.
My management style can be described as collaborative yet decisive. I enjoy developing an exceptional team and take pride in building respectful, productive relationships with colleagues, boards, investors, and auditors.
• Development of strategic and operational objectives, plans, and budgets.
• M&A deals exceeding $7 billion in value.
• Stakeholder Management including Investor Relations, Banking, Rating Agency and Security Commissions
• Strong understanding of capital markets (SEC; US GAAP & IFRS; SOX; and emerging issues).
• Tax strategy – international planning and optimization.
• Process and ERP implementation and optimization
• Restructured finance teams on multiple occasions to address business and operational needs.

Skills & endorsements

  1. Covenant Compliance

https://cbhf.ca/john-l-bragg

 


John L. Bragg

C.B.H.F.

Class of 2003

John L. Bragg was born in 1941 and is a native of Springhill, Nova Scotia. He launched Oxford Frozen Foods in 1968 with a production capacity of 2 million pounds of wild blueberries per year. Today, Oxford has the world’s largest berry farm with 14,000 acres of wild blueberry properties in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Maine. The company also owns six processing factories, with a daily production capacity of more than 3 million pounds.

From the beginning, Mr. Bragg focused on developing lucrative business relationships. Most of the wild blueberries processed by Oxford today come from independent farmers who have been dealing with the company for many years. Customers are just as loyal – Oxford’s wild blueberries are recognized as a benchmark worldwide. Over the years, Bragg has developed markets for Oxford all over the world, including large customers in Japan, Germany, France and the United States.

Seeking diversification, Mr. Bragg has ventured into many other businesses and products, including frozen carrots, battered products, building supplies, and telecommunications. EastLink, his telecommunications company, was established in 1970 and is the largest privately owned cable television company in Canada, serving most of Nova Scotia and all of PEI. Delivering state of the art digital video and high speed internet services to urban and rural customers alike, Bragg has displayed his distinctive entrepreneurial flair by successfully launching a local residential telephone system over the cable network, establishing a new business that is unique to Canada.

Mr. Bragg has a Bachelor of Commerce and a Bachelor of Education from Mount Allison University, and became its Chancellor in 2004. He is a director for several well-known Canadian companies, including Sobeys Inc., the Empire Company Ltd., and Canada Bread Ltd. In 1999, Bragg was acknowledged with the Atlantic Canadian Philanthropist of the Year Award.

John Bragg shows few signs of slowing down. In 1994, he was awarded the National Entrepreneur of the Year Award by the Governor General of Canada, Ray Hnatyshyn. Soon after, Mr. Bragg was made an Officer of the Order of Canada in 1996. Oxford Frozen Foods continues to provide many opportunities in small town Nova Scotia, demonstrating his commitment to community.

 

 https://www.bluewolfcapital.com/blue-wolf-capital-to-acquire-twin-rivers/

 

Blue Wolf Capital to Acquire Twin Rivers

Blue Wolf Capital Partners today announced an agreement to acquire a controlling interest in Twin Rivers Paper Company, Inc. (“Twin Rivers”) from Brookfield Asset Management Inc. Terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

The transaction is expected to close in approximately three weeks, allowing time for certain procedural requirements. Blue Wolf’s investment will be made in partnership with Atlas Holdings LLC. Both firms have long track records of building forest products companies in North America.

Twin Rivers, with facilities in Edmundston and Plaster Rock, New Brunswick, and Madawaska, Maine, has been a vital economic engine for the region for over 80 years, producing specialty papers and lumber for a variety of markets. Through the acquisition of a controlling stake in Twin Rivers, Blue Wolf and Atlas are showing their commitment to the future of the business and will work with the company in the development of its long-term capital and growth plans.

“Twin Rivers produces specialty papers and lumber products that are well regarded throughout the industry. Our plan is to build on these strengths as we seek to position the operations for long-term success and as a key contributor in the revitalization of the forest products sector in Maine and New Brunswick,” said Adam Blumenthal, Managing Partner of Blue Wolf.

“With the active support, direction and guidance our firms bring, we believe we can provide Twin Rivers with additional resources to address its capital needs, cost structure, market exposure and other critical operational challenges presented by the highly competitive forest products industry,” said Tim Fazio, Managing Partner of Atlas Holdings.

Twin Rivers is a major employer in New Brunswick and northern Maine, and the acquisition was welcomed by a wide variety of constituencies.

“We have a proud history in our forest sector and certainly recognize the strategic importance of the Twin Rivers operation. The local communities and our entire forest sector value the jobs and role that Twin Rivers plays. We are excited to have new partners such as Blue Wolf and Atlas invest in the Province and commit to growing this operation and working with us as we continue to rebuild our economy,” said David Alward, Premier of New Brunswick.

“We welcome Blue Wolf and Atlas to our State,” added Maine Governor Paul LePage. “These investors have a track record of successful change in forest products companies, and we look forward to working with them as they implement their strategy.”

Dave Coles, President of the Canadian Energy and Paperworkers Union, which represents workers at Twin Rivers’ operations in Edmundston and Plaster Rock, New Brunswick said, “We have long represented workers at companies owned by Blue Wolf and Atlas, and we know them to be thoughtful and creative investors who are committed to the industry. We will work with the new ownership to protect jobs and pensions for our active and retired members.”

“We welcome this change of ownership, to a group we know well,” said Jon Geenen, International Vice President of the United Steelworkers, which represents workers at Twin Rivers’ Madawaska, Maine paper mill. “We expect the new owners will be dedicated to ensuring the sustainability of this company into the future.”

Together, Blue Wolf and Atlas have a depth of experience in successfully collaborating with stakeholders to build investee companies into sustainable, highly competitive enterprises in both Canada and the United States – including, Northern Resources Nova Scotia Corporation, a pulp mill located in Pictou, Nova Scotia, and Finch Paper Holdings LLC, an integrated pulp and paper business located in Glens Falls, New York.

“Twin Rivers has been vital to the region’s economy for over 80 years, and we want to ensure it continues to be,” said Blumenthal. “We look forward to working with all stakeholders to create a viable, stable and long-term future for Twin Rivers and the forestry sector in both countries.”

About Twin Rivers Paper Company Inc.
Twin Rivers is an integrated specialty paper company that manufactures packaging, label and publishing products, with mill operations in Madawaska, Maine, and Edmundston, New Brunswick. Twin Rivers also operates a lumber sawmill located in Plaster Rock, New Brunswick. For additional information, please visit: www.twinriverspaper.com.

About Blue Wolf
Blue Wolf Capital Partners LLC is a private equity firm that invests in companies in which effective management of relationships with complex constituencies, such as government and labor, can change organizations and create value. For additional information, please visit www.blue-wolf.com.

One Liberty Plaza, 52nd Floor
(165 Broadway)
New York, NY 10006

Phone

Main Line: (212) 488-1340

Email

General & Press inquiries
info@bluewolfcapital.com

Executive talent inquiries
careers@bluewolfcapital.com

Investment Inquiries
acquisitions@bluewolfcapital.com

 

Adam Blumenthal


 
Managing Partner
(212) 488-1341

Adam Blumenthal is Founder and Managing Partner of Blue Wolf Capital Partners LLC, and a member of its Investment Committee. The Blue Wolf Capital Funds are a family of private equity funds focused on transformational investments in middle market companies.

Mr. Blumenthal was the founding partner of Blue Wolf in 2005. He has served on the board of directors of numerous middle market companies over the course of three decades. Currently, he serves on the Board of Directors of Finch Paper Company LLC, Twin Rivers Paper Company, Elara Caring, StateServ Holdings, LLC, Fox Rehabilitation, ClearSky Health LLC, RHA Health Services, KDB, and Colson Group.

From 2011 through 2017, Mr. Blumenthal was a Trustee, and Chair, of the Investment Committee of the UAW Retiree Medical Benefits Trust, a $60 billion fund that pays retiree health benefits for over 700,000 UAW employees of Ford, Chrysler and General Motors.

From 1989 to 2002, Mr. Blumenthal built and managed American Capital Ltd., a publicly-traded buyout and mezzanine fund (NASDAQ: ACAS). Mr. Blumenthal played a central role building ACAS into a publicly-traded buyout and mezzanine fund with a portfolio of over $1 billion invested in sixty-three middle market companies, by the time he left in 2002. From the 1997 initial public offering until 2002, Mr. Blumenthal served continuously on ACAS’s board of directors, was a founding member of its investment committee, and held positions including Chief Financial Officer, Chief Operating Officer, President and Vice Chairman. Over this time, ACAS produced a 22% IRR to investors in its initial public offering.

Mr. Blumenthal served as First Deputy Comptroller and Chief Financial Officer for New York City Comptroller William C. Thompson, Jr. from 2002 – 2005. In this capacity, he oversaw the capital markets activities of the Comptroller’s office, including overseeing the City’s debt issuance, managed the assets of the New York City Retirement Systems, and issued budget, financial, and economic analyses. During Mr. Blumenthal’s tenure, the City’s pension assets increased from $65 billion to $85 billion, primarily as a result of strong investment gains.

Mr. Blumenthal received a B.A., magna cum laude, from Harvard College, and a M.B.A. from the Yale School of Management. From 2004 to 2007, he served on the Yale SOM’s Board of Advisors, and is currently a member of the Advisory Board for Yale’s International Center for Finance. In 2009, he was named a Donaldson Fellow at the Yale SOM. He has been a trustee, and Chairman, of the Investment Committee of the Nathan Cummings Foundation and the Community Service Society of New York.

 

Charles Miller


Partner
(212) 488-1348

Mr. Miller joined Blue Wolf in 2012 and serves on the Board of Directors of Blue Wolf portfolio companies Vicksburg Forest Products LLC, Novo Building Products, The Mulch and Soil Company, and Petrosmith LLC and was previously on the Board of Directors for Pharmaceutical Strategies Group LLC, a former Blue Wolf portfolio company.

Previously, Mr. Miller was an equity partner at Patton Boggs LLP from 1997–2012. He served as the firm-wide Deputy Managing Partner, Managing Partner of the firm’s Dallas office, Chairman of the firm’s Business Department, and as an ex-officio member of the firm’s Executive Committee. Before joining Blue Wolf, Mr. Miller served as Blue Wolf’s primary external counsel.

As an attorney, Mr. Miller counseled private equity funds, financial institutions, hedge funds, mezzanine and equity funds, and other institutional investors on matters involving mergers and acquisitions, structured and project financings, acquisition financings, recapitalizations, and restructuring and reorganization.

Mr. Miller has served as a Director at numerous non-profit organizations.

He received a Bachelor’s degree, cum laude, from West Virginia University, and a J.D., Order of the Coif, from West Virginia University College of Law.

 

 https://www.atlasholdingsllc.com/news/twin-rivers-strengthens-packaging-market-position-with-acquisition-of-burrows-p/

 

Twin Rivers Strengthens Packaging Market Position with Acquisition of Burrows Paper Mill

Madawaska, ME – Twin Rivers Paper Company Limited announced today that it would acquire the paper manufacturing assets of the Burrows Paper Corporation, headquartered in New York. Terms of the transaction were not disclosed.

“Twin Rivers is a nimble, high quality, integrated forest products company and we are very pleased to acquire Burrows’ paper assets and welcome its skilled associates,” said Twin Rivers Chief Executive Officer Bob Snyder. “Twin Rivers is the market leader today in the lightweight packaging, publishing and label markets and this transaction strategically builds upon that foundation. It is fully consistent with our business’ focus, short and long-term.”

“This transaction is a ‘win’ for our business, the customers we serve and the communities, both current and future, that we are privileged to call home,” said Ken Winterhalter, President of Twin Rivers. “The experienced team joining Twin Rivers shares the commitment to quality, innovation and service excellence that has been our trademark.”

The transaction is expected to close during the 4th quarter of 2016. It will expand Twin Rivers’ geographic footprint and product offerings while strengthening its ability to serve a wide array of customers in the lightweight publishing, packaging, label and other technical specialty sectors. Four specialty paper machines, located at Burrows’ facilities in New York and Mississippi, will be added to Twin Rivers as a result of the acquisition.

About Burrows Paper Corporation

Burrows Paper Corporation is a long-time family-owned company that operates four paper mills and six packaging converting facilities in the U.S. and abroad. Headquartered in Little Falls, New York, with four paper mills operating in New York and Mississippi, Burrows is a leading manufacturer of lightweight specialty paper with a reputation for highly engineered products. For more information, visit www.burrowspaper.com

About Twin Rivers Paper Company

Twin Rivers Paper Company, headquartered in Madawaska, Maine, is an integrated specialty paper company that produces specialty packaging, label and publishing papers, as well as dimensional lumber. Targeting its manufacturing capabilities to specific market segments, Twin Rivers creates competitive advantages through nimble innovation and product development, service excellence and an unfailing commitment to quality. The company’s brands include Acadia® packaging products, Alliance® label products, and Pharmopaque® pharmaceutical papers. Twin Rivers is one of the largest employers in Northern New Brunswick and Maine with over 1,000 full-time employees. Twin Rivers is owned jointly by Atlas Holdings LLC and Blue Wolf Capital. For more information, visit www.twinriverspaper.com

 

Atlas Holdings Announces $3.1 Billion Close For Fourth Private Equity Fund

Oversubscribed Fund Achieves Hard Cap in "One and Done" Closing

GREENWICH, Conn., March 29, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- Atlas Holdings LLC ("Atlas") today announced the first and final close of its fourth private equity investment fund, Atlas Capital Resources IV LP ("ACR IV").  Atlas began fundraising in November 2020 and closed ACR IV at its hard cap of $3.1 billion.  As of the closing, Atlas manages more than $6.0 billion of capital. 

Atlas focuses on control investments in companies experiencing financial or operational stress.  In both robust and challenging points in the business cycle, Atlas has demonstrated the ability to identify compelling investment opportunities, surround its companies with great talent, management teams and operational resources and facilitate the transformation of underperforming operations to create value.  The multifaceted human and operational challenges caused by the global COVID-19 pandemic illustrated Atlas' distinctive capabilities, honed over several decades.  Not only did Atlas' existing portfolio companies perform well amidst unprecedented economic headwinds but Atlas also completed several strategic acquisitions, effectively doubling the total workforce of its companies around the globe to more than 40,000. The Atlas team's deep-rooted experience operating in industries facing distress – and the ability to nimbly complete diligence and to execute in a highly disrupted environment – enabled Atlas to accelerate its growth during this challenging period. 

"Atlas has established a well-defined and highly differentiated approach to both investing capital and supporting our existing businesses.  That approach has remained constant for decades and has enabled our private equity funds to systematically deliver value to our investors.  We are extremely grateful for the continued strong support from our long-standing institutional partners as well as the tremendous demand from a large group of new partners from across the globe," said Andrew Bursky, Atlas' Co-Founder and Managing Partner. 

Atlas partners include global foundations, endowment funds, public and private pension funds and family offices.

"When we started Atlas, we never anticipated that it would become what it is today, and we are extremely humbled by the confidence in our team that this fund represents," said Tim Fazio Atlas' Co-Founder and Managing Partner.  "Raising a fund nearly double the size of our last is not simply a recognition of our track record as investors and operators.  It is an affirmation of the extraordinary people across the world that have consistently put us in a position to win."

"As we look ahead, ACR IV will allow our exceptional team to take the next step in Atlas' evolution and seize exciting new opportunities.  While we have grown and will continue to do so, we will stay true to our roots, investing in sectors where we have developed expertise and partnering with our Leadership Teams to create great businesses over the long term," said Atlas Managing Partner Jacob Hudson.

Capstone Partners served as exclusive placement agent for ACR IV and Proskauer Rose LLP provided legal counsel.

About Atlas Holdings LLC

Headquartered in Greenwich, Connecticut and founded in 2002, Atlas and its affiliates own and operate 23 platform companies which employ approximately 40,000 associates across more than 250 facilities worldwide. Atlas operates in sectors such as aluminum processing, automotive, building materials, capital equipment, construction services, food manufacturing and distribution, packaging, paper, power generation, printing, pulp, supply chain management and wood products. Atlas' companies together generate approximately $10 billion in revenues annually.

 

Andrew Bursky

Managing Partner

Andrew M. Bursky is Co-founder and Co-Managing Partner of Atlas Holdings LLC. Mr. Bursky co-founded the firm in 2002.  Since then, it has grown into a global family of manufacturing and distribution businesses.

Mr. Bursky is a 1978 graduate of Washington University in St. Louis, where he received a B.A. in economics and a B.S. and M.S. in chemical engineering.  He also received an M.B.A. from Harvard in 1980.  He co-founded Interlaken Capital in 1980, where he served as Managing Director until 1999, building it into one of the nation’s largest privately-owned businesses, according to Forbes magazine. From June 1999 to April 2002, he was a Co-Managing Partner of Pegasus Capital Advisors, L.P., a private investment partnership with approximately $2 billion of capital under management. He serves as a Trustee and on the Executive Committee of the Board of Washington University, as a Director of the Washington University Investment Management Company and on the Executive Board of No Labels, an American centrist political organization composed of Republicans, Democrats, and independents whose mission is to combat partisan dysfunction in politics.

Timothy Fazio

Managing Partner

Tim Fazio is Co-founder and Co-Managing Partner of Atlas Holdings LLC. Mr. Fazio co-founded the firm in 2002. Since then, it has grown into a global family of manufacturing and distribution businesses. Mr. Fazio is a 1996 graduate of the University of Pennsylvania, where he earned a BA in International Relations from the College of Arts and Sciences and a BS in Economics with a concentration in Finance from the Wharton School. He joined Interlaken Capital in 1996 and from June 1999 to January 2002, Mr. Fazio was Principal and Vice President at Pegasus Capital Advisors, L.P., a private investment partnership with approximately $2 billion of capital under management, focusing on control investments in middle-market companies at points of stress or significant change. He is a Fellow of the 2017 Class of the Aspen Institute’s Finance Leadership Fellowship and a member of the Aspen Global Leadership Network. He serves on the Board of Advisors for the Center for High Impact Philanthropy at the University of Pennsylvania.

 

Michael O’Donnell

Principal, General Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer

Mr. O’Donnell joined Atlas in 2014. Prior to joining Atlas, he had his own regulatory consulting practice. Mr. O’Donnell has also served as a Director and Senior Counsel for a specialty finance fund and a senior member of Belgrade and O’Donnell, P.C., a Chicago law firm focusing on Civil Trial and Appellate Practice. He began his professional career as a prosecutor with the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office in Chicago, Illinois.

 

Contact

100 Northfield Street
Greenwich, CT 06830
203.622.9138

 

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/a-new-workspace-with-antique-twist.html 

 

Friday, 16 October 2020

A new workspace with an antique twist opens in Petitcodiac

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:13:15 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Hey Higgy Methinks there are 2 new Twists of
the Truth for CBC to review in their domain then compare to my records
stored within my blog EH Robert Jones?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for taking the time to write to us.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Henrik Palmgren <redicecreations@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:46:26 +0200
Subject: Re: Oh my my I guess we know the score on you EH?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Oh my. Don't send me your spam. It's not good for anything.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:27:53 -0300
Subject: Re Teddy Baby Olson was on Fox News today yapping about
Presidential enemies list as he represents the crooks in Koch
Industries??? If anyone should know about such things it is Olson
after all he assisted Ashcroft and Bush against me
To: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Office@tigta.treas.gov, RBauer@perkinscoie.com,
mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, ron.klain@revolution.com,
dboies@bsfllp.com, tolson@gibsondunn.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
"ed.pilkington" <ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>, news
<news@thetelegraph.com.au>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com, gregory.craig@skadden.com,
Patrick.Fitzgerald@skadden.com

Hey

As Harper sits and bullshits his cohorts in the Council of Foreign
Relations in the Big Apple today I bet he was listening to what was
happening with Obama and the IRS and Holder and his DOJ minions
in Washington.

Notice the Inspector General of the IRS Dudes within this old file?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9092510/Chicago

Everybody and his dog knows Harper knew about my battles with the US
Treasury and Justice Depts way back when he was the boss of the
opposition in Canada's Parliament. Two simple files easily found on
the Internet cannot be argued.

Notice how old the letter and Form 211 are?

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/5-years-waiting-on-bank-fraud-payout.html

Here the Inspector Generals calling me 7 years ago?

http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Office of Chief Counsel, Treasury.
Inspector General for Tax Administration, (202) 622-4068.

When Teddy bitches about polticians using the IRS to attack their
enemies because he knows it true because he helped Bush the IRS
against me when Obama was just a State Senator .

The proof was when I sent him the documents that came along with the letter
found on page 13 of this old file Teddy Baby Olson quit as Solicitor
General.

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf

Harper and every body else knows It was no coincidence that I sent the
lawyers Olson as Solicitior General, Ferguson as the co chair of the
Federal  Reserve Bank, and J Strom Thurmond Jr the youngest US
Attorney the same pile of documents on April Fools Day 2004.

The sad but terrible truth is that legions of cops, lawyers polticians
and bureaucrats in Canada and the USA knew about the US Secret Service
 coming to my home after dark on April Fools Day 2003 bearing false
allegations of a presidential threat and threatening to use their
implied right to use exta ordinary rendition against me as a non
citizen less than two weeks after the needless War in Iraq began and
no WMD were ever found.

You can bet dimes to dollars i called some Yankee Inspector Generals
(starting with 202 622 4068) and reminded them that I am still alive
and kicking and reminding the world of their malicious incompetence

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

PS Below you can review some emails I sent you and your Yankee cohorts
such asTeddy Baby Olson before Obama was reelected EH Harper? In truth
I would rather settle in confidence with Obama then sue the Hell out
of the CROWN and the Holy See Trust that the evil old Judge Bastarache
has known why for a very long time.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: "Rob Talach" <rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why

The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
a lot to you

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
Bernadine Chapman??
To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca, webo
<webo@xplornet.com>, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1
<toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, "Nycole.Turmel" <Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca>,
Clemet1 <Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, maritime_malaise
<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, oig <oig@sec.gov>, whistleblower
<whistleblower@finra.org>, whistle <whistle@fsa.gov.uk>, david
<david@fairwhistleblower.ca>
Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, "Juanita.Peddle"
<Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
"Wayne.Lang" <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Robert.Trevors"
<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>, "ian.fahie" <ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm

http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf


From: Gilles Moreau <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
Constable Peddle???
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.

Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC
Director General
HR Transformation
73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2

Tel 613-843-6039
Cel 613-818-6947

Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC
Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines
73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2

tél 613-843-6039
cel 613-818-6947
gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca


>>> David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> 2012-11-21 00:01 >>>

Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it
yet

Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
link to Madoff and Putnam Investments

Here is why

http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2

Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
following file

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf

NONE of you should have assisted in the cover up of MURDER CORRECT???


http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2011/2011-06-22/html/sor-dors122-eng.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>; <Rob.Renaud@cbc.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Question # 1 who the hell is Rob Renaus and di Robert Jone
and Jaques Poitra and Alan white etc forward you my latest emails


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Edith Cody-Rice <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:53:07 -0500
Subject: Calls and E-mails to CBC
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Cc: Rob Renaud <Rob.Renaud@cbc.ca>

Dear Mr. Amos:

CBC personnel have contacted me concerning your calls and e-mails to
them. As you are threatening legal action, would you kindly direct any
further calls or correspondence to me. Other CBC personnel will not
respond further to your correspondence or calls.


Edith Cody-Rice
Senior Legal Counsel
Premier Conseiller juridique
CBC/Radio-Canada
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
the USDOJ for me will ya?
To: RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith <msmith@svlaw.com>, bginsberg
<bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>, "gregory.craig"
<gregory.craig@skadden.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
<bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, leader
<leader@greenparty.ca>
Cc: alevine@cooley.com, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html

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https://www.conservationcouncil.ca/filmmaker-exposes-corporate-capture-in-forestry-in-n-b/

 

Filmmaker exposes corporate capture in forestry in N.B.

Filmmaker Charles Thériault’s passion is observing. His troubling encounter with a young man in the northern rural New Brunswick community of Kedgwick made him turn his camera on the forest. The result: a popular web series documenting decades of forest mismanagement and what he calls “corporate capture” of our forest.

Thériault’s impression that all was fine in New Brunswick’s woods was shattered when he met a 26-year-old man who had tried to commit suicide. The man was $1 million in debt, a debt he had accrued from working as a contractor, cutting wood for J.D. Irving, the largest forestry player in the province. According to Thériault, the contractors are in a perpetual debt cycle of taking out loans to buy new machines.

Filmmaker Charles Theriault

Thériault spoke with several contractors who had their loans for new machines co-signed by J.D. Irving. These types of systems, in which workers have their financial affairs tied to the company they work for, are ripe for exploitation. “It’s a system of slavery-like control over the workers,” claims Thériault.

About 100 students, professors and others concerned about the state of New Brunswick’s forest filled a room at St. Thomas University (STU) in Fredericton on Oct. 16 to hear Thériault share his story.

STU professor Joan McFarland invited Thériault to speak to her New Brunswick Economy class and the public. “We are using, as class materials, the fascinating 28 videos on his blog, isourforestreallyours.ca. The videos expose the disastrous situation of the Crown forest in New Brunswick. We felt that he would have something important to say. We weren’t disappointed,” says McFarland.

New Brunswick’s land base, which has never been ceded by the Wolastoqiyik, Mi’kmaq and Passamoquoddy peoples, is carved out as 50 per cent public land (also known as Crown land), 30 per cent private land and 20 per cent freehold. The New Brunswick government is tasked with managing the public forest in a way that benefits all New Brunswickers but many like Thériault argue that private interests are largely benefiting from forestry practices today.

Forestry has been a main source of jobs and way of life in many rural communities across New Brunswick for generations. The closure of many mills across the province in the early 2000s devastated many forestry-dependent communities. However, as mills closed and people were thrown out of work, wood continued to be cut from New Brunswick’s public forest in record volumes. The Conservation Council of New Brunswick reported that timber harvested from public land reached a record high of 5.4 million cubic metres from 2006 to 2007.

Intensive industrial practices, such as clearcutting and conversion of natural forests into plantations, have also not sat well with people from across the province. In 2015, the Auditor-General of New Brunswick recommended reducing clearcutting on Crown forest. A 2008 survey of public attitudes on Crown forestry management by Nadeau and Beckley noted that participants–from both rural and urban areas of New Brunswick–wanted water protection and biodiversity protection to be the top two forest management priorities. Participants chose jobs as the third priority.

“New Brunswickers do not trust the forest industry to manage Crown Lands.” Episode 5 of Is Our Forest Really Ours. Produced by Charles Thériault.

Thériault, who has travelled the world, producing media for the National Film Board and the Discovery Channel, says that his time spent working inside government when Frank McKenna was the Premier of New Brunswick opened his eyes to “how important decisions were being made in the backroom.” He remarks, “this was not my kind of politics so I left politics for filmmaking.”

Thériault was raised in what he describes as an “Acadian ghetto in Moncton,” Georgetown. He recalls the paved roads and services ending just outside Anglophone Moncton. He eventually settled in the rural northern New Brunswick community of Kedgwick with his wife, Betty St. Pierre, who he says, “taught him how to stand up.” In 2009, St. Pierre organized a petition to stop spraying the forest after she said she and other forestry workers were sprayed.

In a story reported by the NB Media Co-op in 2009, St. Pierre said, “A man reported fish kills along a stream here after the last spraying. It is not normal to do that to the forest. We can’t prove we are sick because of the spraying but cancer and pesticides have been linked. People are starting to question why do so many people in our community, in Northern New Brunswick, have cancer and rare cancers.”

“Where were the journalists?” questions Thériault. “I approached several reporters in the province about these stories of forest mismanagement. I was told that I was too controversial. I spoke the truth. They were too afraid,” says Thériault.

“I knew I had to report on what was happening in our woods because the press was not doing it,” says Thériault. He set out to do what he calls a “social awareness raising experiment.” Supported by the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners, the filmmaker produced a number of online videos with people who had critical things to say about forestry practices in New Brunswick. The popular videos can be watched online at isourforestreallyours.ca.

Outdated forestry legislation that benefits large industrial interests is a main culprit behind forest mismanagement in the province, according to forestry experts, conservation groups and woodlot owners as reported in the Conservation Council’s 2017 Forest Report Card. However, getting the story of forest mismanagement told has been difficult in a province where J.D. Irving, Ltd. owns a large portion of the media.

The popularity of Thériault’s short videos and NB Media Co-op’s stories on spraying the forest reveal that people are hungry to hear the forest story in New Brunswick from the point of view of the small woodlot owners, forestry workers, scientists and conservationists. “After my first few videos, I started getting contacted by retired Deputy Ministers of Natural Resources who were now free to talk,” notes Thériault.

Don McCrea explains how the 1982 N.B. Crown Land and Forest Act came into being and why he refused to accept the post of Deputy Minister of Natural Resources. Episode 11 of Is Our Forest Really Ours. Produced by Charles Thériault.

Besides J.D. Irving, “other private interests are making tremendous amounts of money from our forest while we, the public, feel the pain,” says Thériault. The Auditor-General’s 2015 report affirms Thériault’s claim: Kim MacPherson’s audit of the Department of Natural Resources finances, from 2009 to 2014, revealed that the province had lost between $7 to 10 million each year on our public forests.

In perhaps his most popular video, Thériault tells the story of how forestry management was redesigned in ways that benefited companies that are associated with Bud Bird and Frank McKenna.

In Episode 9 of Is Our Forest Really Ours, Charles Thériault discusses the involvement of Frank McKenna and Bud Bird in forest management in New Brunswick. Produced by Charles Thériault. 

According to Thériault, Bud Bird, a well-known businessman and former Progressive Conservative politician, while Minister of Natural Resources under the Hatfield government, “essentially privatized the Crown forest by dividing the land into ten timber licenses in 1982.”

In response to concerns of woodlot owners, the Crown Lands and Forest Act was amended in 1982 to say that the industry’s primary source of wood fibre had to come from private woodlots. The big players in the forestry industry objected to the new power given to woodlot owners and their marketing boards but Bird was able to console the industry by consolidating 483 parcels of Crown land into ten licenses. Today, only four companies, all large, multinational corporations, control Crown forest. J.D. Irving is the largest Crown forest licensee. Theriault argues, “This system has impoverished New Brunswick.”

Frank McKenna, while Premier of New Brunswick, changed the Act by striking the woodlot owners’ guarantee of primary source of wood supply to the province’s mills. Woodlot owners have been fighting ever since 1992 to have the market advantage returned to them. They say they are not able to compete with cheap Crown wood and they point to the overcutting of the public forest as one symptom of a broken forest management regime.

McKenna and Bird entered again in Thériault’s storytelling of New Brunswick’s forest history. In 2009, Fraser Papers, that owned the mill in Edmundston, filed for bankruptcy protection with the Canadian and American governments so that it could restructure. At the time, Brookfield Asset Management was the majority shareholder of Fraser Papers. McKenna is a long-time board member of Brookfield, a company that denied 450 retired mill workers in Edmundston their full pensions.

The restructuring of Fraser Papers involved splitting the company into two new companies: Acadian Timber and Twin Rivers. Bird is a former board director of Acadian Timber. According to Acadian Timber’s website, today, the company is the “second largest timberland operator in New Brunswick and Maine.” Twin Rivers operates the Edmundston mill and is one of the companies that the Alward government signed a controversial and unprecedented contract with in 2014 that allowed the company to cut an increased amount of wood from their Crown land license every year.

Frustrated by a political system that is captured by corporations, Thériault ran in the last two provincial elections, first as an independent and more recently, in the September 2018 election, as a Green Party candidate for Restigouche West. In that election, he came in second, with 31.5 per cent of the vote.

What is Thériault’s vision for rural New Brunswick? He says that decentralization is needed to restore community involvement. Decentralization involves local decision-making bodies having more power and responsibilities over resources such as the forest as well as health care and other public services. He says rural New Brunswick also needs to grapple with climate change and that resilient forests and food security should be at the top of our collective agendas.

This article and video was made possible with support from RAVEN – Rural Action & Voices for the Environment. It originally appeared in the NB Media Co-Op on Nov.5, 2018.

Tracy Glynn is working with RAVEN as a doctoral researcher and was the Conservation Council of New Brunswick’s forest campaigner from 2006 to 2018.

 

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/a-new-workspace-with-antique-twist.html 

 

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 04:37:00 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks if Don Bowser were truly ethical
then he and I would have had a long talk many moons ago yet his CBC
buddies are still promoting him bigtime to this very day while trying
to play dumb N"esy Pas?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for taking the time to write to us.

Due to the high volume of emails that we receive daily, please note
that there may be a delay in our response. Thank you for your
understanding.

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If this is a Media Request, please contact the Premier’s office at
(506) 453-2144.

Thank you.


Bonjour,

Nous vous remercions d’avoir pris le temps de nous écrire.

Tenant compte du volume élevé de courriels que nous recevons
quotidiennement, il se peut qu’il y ait un délai dans notre réponse.
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S’il s’agit d’une demande des médias, veuillez communiquer avec le
Cabinet du premier ministre au 506-453-2144.

Merci.


Office of the Premier/Cabinet du premier ministre
P.O Box/C. P. 6000
Fredericton, New-Brunswick/Nouveau-

Brunswick
E3B 5H1
Canada
Tel./Tel. : (506) 453-2144
Email/Courriel:
premier@gnb.ca/premierministre@gnb.ca<mailto:premier@gnb.ca/premier.ministre@gnb.ca>

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Z9nI1DKoE&t=124s&ab_channel=kedgwickriver

 


Don Bowser asks who is running the province in N.B?

5,003 views
May 15, 2014
715 subscribers
Don Bowser is an international expert on transparency and anti-corruption. Having worked many years in several hotspots of the world, he has decided to return to New-Brunswick only to find a situation which he describes as far worse than many of the countries he has dealt with.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxLE8rAn8NI

 


Jeannot Volpé Scrap the N.B. forest plan

692 views
May 22, 2014
715 subscribers
Former N.B. finance and D.N.R. minister

 

 

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnuFUn3giVQ&ab_channel=CharlesLeBlanc

 


 

Jeannot Volpe gives his views on the Irvings monopoly!!

 
304 views
Nov 16, 2008
1.88K subscribers
very straight forward.

 

 

 http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/02/lets-see-if-cbc-allows-me-to-post-my.html

 

Saturday, 18 February 2017

Lets see if CBC allows me to post my comments agreeing with others and their opinions of the Irving Empire

Need I say HMMM? 


---------- Original message ----------
From: "McKeen, Randy  (SD/DS)" Randy.McKeen@gnb.ca
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 17:43:11 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Douglas A.M. Evans, QC RE JDI vs SNB I just called your cell phone and left a voicemail introducing myself Correct?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

I am currently out of the office until Monday, Aug 14. If this requires immediate attention, please contact MacKenzie Wasburn for Families and Children at mackenzie.washburn@gnb.ca or Sonny Newman for Seniors and Long-Term Care at sonny.newman@gnb.ca.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:43:04 -0400
Subject: Attn Douglas A.M. Evans, QC RE JDI vs SNB I just called your cell phone and left a voicemail introducing myself Correct?
To: devans@coxandpalmer.com, david.young@mcinnescooper.com, psteep@mccarthy.ca, jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca, Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca, rick.doucet@gnb.ca, nbfwo@nb.aibn.com, Hon.Chrystia.Freeland@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, david.wilkins@nelsonmullins.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, Jack.Keir@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, markandcaroline@gmail.com, andre@jafaust.com, COCMoncton@gmail.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, briangallant10@gmail.com, David.Coon@gnb.ca,  Davidc.Coon@gmail.com, randy.mckeen@gnb.ca, mckeen.randy@gmail.com,  blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, jake.stewart@gnb.ca, kirk.macdonald@gnb.ca, BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com

http://www.coxandpalmerlaw.com/en/home/lawyers/profile.aspx/devans

Douglas A.M. Evans, QC
Acts as counsel in the Saint John office of Cox & Palmer
DIRECT LINE  (506) 633-2757
Cell: (506) 640-0632
E-MAIL  devans@coxandpalmer.com

Perhaps you should review my blog for the benefit of your clients the AV Group?

It appears to me they don't know how to read Engish. I know for a fact
 that they do bother to answer emails or even return phone calls in
order to introduce me to their lawyer Obviously I had to wait months
for CBC to spill the beans and tell us all who you are N'esy Pas
Premier Gallant, Mr Higgs and Mr Coon???

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/02/lets-see-if-cbc-allows-me-to-post-my.html

Saturday, 18 February 2017

Lets see if CBC allows me to post my comments agreeing with others and
their opinions of the Irving Empire

Need I say HMMM?

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:18:56 -0400
Subject: RE JDI vs SNB
To: psteep@mccarthy.ca, bdsaw@mccarthy.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


Monday, 6 February 2017

Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?


---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:10:07 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be assured  that your email will be reviewed and if a response is requested, it will be forthcoming.


Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez assuré(e) que votre  courriel sera examiné et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:09:19 -0400
Subject: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: premier , "blaine.higgs" , "David.Coon" , woodlot@nbnet.nb.ca, nsfpmb@nbnet.nb.ca, odvdm@nbnet.nb.ca, info@cvwpa.ca, david hughson , "rick.doucet"
Cc: David Amos , oldmaison , markandcaroline , andre , "terry.seguin" , COCMoncton , nmoore , newsroom

https://411.ca/business/profile/983931

JEANNOT VOLPE
314E RUE PRINCIPALE
Saint-Jacques
New Brunswick, Canada
 E7B 1X3

Phone (506) 737-4436,

Need I say that the sneaky lawyer Brian Mosher knows why I found this
stuff VERY interesting?

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/en/ForestsCrownLands/FPC/2013-2014.pdf

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/fr/ForetsEtTerresDeLaCouronne/ForProdCommission_YSC_Investigation_Report_Final.pdf

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:58:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Jean Bertin (506 444-5298) RE JDI vs SNB We just talked
about what I heard and read in CBC this morning Here is the email I
promised
To: jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com
Cc: David Amos , "Jacques.Poitras"


Trust that don't believe one word that Jeannot Volpé has to say on the topic.

Everybody knows that his former politcal boss Bernie Lord promised to
reverse the LIEbrano actions of changing the primary source of wood if
and when he won his first mandate and then the Conservatives NEVER
did.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-wood-marketing-boards-dispute-1.3966168

Industry dispute with wood marketing boards needs government action, says ex-minister

Jeannot Volpé says marketing board should be 'primary source' of wood for industry on trial basis

By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 06, 2017 6:30 AM AT



http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2006/05/harper-and-bankers.html

Tuesday, May 16, 2006

Harper and Bankers

Just Dave

May 10th, 2006
Prime Minister Stephen Harper,
Minister of Public Safety, Stockwell Day,
President of the Treasury Board, John Baird,
Ministers James Flaherty, and Vic Toews
C/o Bill Casey MP
103 Albion Street South,
Amherst, NS, B4H 2X2

Franky Boy McKenna, Deputy Chair,
John Bragg and John Thompson, Directors
Chris Montague Legal Counsel
C/o Jill Crosby, Bank Manager
TD Financial Group
620 Main Street
Sussex, NB, E4E 5L4

W. Geoffrey Beattie, Director
David Allgood, Legal Counsel,
C/o Sharon Armstrong, Bank Manager
Royal Bank of Canada
644 Main Street
Sussex, NB, E4E 7H9

John Manley PC, Director and
E. Jennifer Warren, Legal Counsel
C/o Maria Cormie, Bank Manager
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
761 Main St,
Moncton, NB. E1C 1E5

RE: Blowing the whistle on big banks and corrupt politicians too.

Hey,

Flaherty’s budget looming on the horizon tonight is gonna get the big OK from the Bloc EH? Well a mean old bike mechanic in the Maritimes has been waiting to chuck a wrench in the works of many a crooked beancounter. I just served your offices in hand some of the same material that Andre Arthur MP and Senator Kinsella received before the 39th Parliament began. I am also giving you other material and a political rant that they did not receive. The legal counsel of all the monstrous Canadian banks have shown me their arses, two for a month and three for almost two years. It is high time to boot you bankers out off bed with the corrupt politicians you depend on to cover up wrongs or sue you bastards too. N’est pas?


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