Need I say HMMM?
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From: "McKeen, Randy (SD/DS)" Randy.McKeen@gnb.ca
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 17:43:11 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Douglas A.M. Evans, QC RE JDI vs SNB I just called your cell phone and left a voicemail introducing myself Correct?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
I am currently out of the office until Monday, Aug 14. If this requires immediate attention, please contact MacKenzie Wasburn for Families and Children at mackenzie.washburn@gnb.ca or Sonny Newman for Seniors and Long-Term Care at sonny.newman@gnb.ca.
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:43:04 -0400
Subject: Attn Douglas A.M. Evans, QC RE JDI vs SNB I just called your cell phone and left a voicemail introducing myself Correct?
To: devans@coxandpalmer.com, david.young@mcinnescooper.com, psteep@mccarthy.ca, jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca, Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca, rick.doucet@gnb.ca, nbfwo@nb.aibn.com, Hon.Chrystia.Freeland@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, david.wilkins@nelsonmullins.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, Jack.Keir@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, markandcaroline@gmail.com, andre@jafaust.com, COCMoncton@gmail.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, briangallant10@gmail.com, David.Coon@gnb.ca, Davidc.Coon@gmail.com, randy.mckeen@gnb.ca, mckeen.randy@gmail.com, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, jake.stewart@gnb.ca, kirk.macdonald@gnb.ca, BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com
http://www.coxandpalmerlaw.com/en/home/lawyers/profile.aspx/devans
Douglas A.M. Evans, QC
Acts as counsel in the Saint John office of Cox & Palmer
DIRECT LINE (506) 633-2757
Cell: (506) 640-0632
E-MAIL devans@coxandpalmer.com
Perhaps you should review my blog for the benefit of your clients the AV Group?
It appears to me they don't know how to read Engish. I know for a fact
that they do bother to answer emails or even return phone calls in
order to introduce me to their lawyer Obviously I had to wait months
for CBC to spill the beans and tell us all who you are N'esy Pas
Premier Gallant, Mr Higgs and Mr Coon???
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/02/lets-see-if-cbc-allows-me-to-post-my.html
Saturday, 18 February 2017
Lets see if CBC allows me to post my comments agreeing with others and
their opinions of the Irving Empire
Need I say HMMM?
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:18:56 -0400
Subject: RE JDI vs SNB
To: psteep@mccarthy.ca, bdsaw@mccarthy.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
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From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:10:07 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for
ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at
(506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind
his back N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
assured that your email will be reviewed and if a response is
requested, it will be forthcoming.
Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné
et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/02/yo-chucky-leblanc-re-latest-jdi-lawsuit.html
Monday, 6 February 2017
Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
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From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:10:07 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos
Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be assured that your email will be reviewed and if a response is requested, it will be forthcoming.
Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.
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From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:09:19 -0400
Subject: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: premier , "blaine.higgs" , "David.Coon" , woodlot@nbnet.nb.ca, nsfpmb@nbnet.nb.ca, odvdm@nbnet.nb.ca, info@cvwpa.ca, david hughson , "rick.doucet"
Cc: David Amos , oldmaison , markandcaroline , andre , "terry.seguin" , COCMoncton , nmoore , newsroom
https://411.ca/business/profile/983931
JEANNOT VOLPE
314E RUE PRINCIPALE
Saint-Jacques
New Brunswick, Canada
E7B 1X3
Phone (506) 737-4436,
Need I say that the sneaky lawyer Brian Mosher knows why I found this
stuff VERY interesting?
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/en/ForestsCrownLands/FPC/2013-2014.pdf
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/fr/ForetsEtTerresDeLaCouronne/ForProdCommission_YSC_Investigation_Report_Final.pdf
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From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:58:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Jean Bertin (506 444-5298) RE JDI vs SNB We just talked
about what I heard and read in CBC this morning Here is the email I
promised
To: jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com
Cc: David Amos , "Jacques.Poitras"
Trust that don't believe one word that Jeannot Volpé has to say on the topic.
Everybody knows that his former politcal boss Bernie Lord promised to
reverse the LIEbrano actions of changing the primary source of wood if
and when he won his first mandate and then the Conservatives NEVER
did.
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:10:07 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos
Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be assured that your email will be reviewed and if a response is requested, it will be forthcoming.
Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné et qu’une réponse vous parviendra à sa demande.
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:09:19 -0400
Subject: Yo Chucky Leblanc RE latest JDI lawsuit Here is scoop for ya the media won't touch BTW I called your old pal Jeannot Volpe at (506) 737 4436 and left voicemail just so he can't say I talked behind his back N'esy Pas?
To: premier , "blaine.higgs" , "David.Coon" , woodlot@nbnet.nb.ca, nsfpmb@nbnet.nb.ca, odvdm@nbnet.nb.ca, info@cvwpa.ca, david hughson , "rick.doucet"
Cc: David Amos , oldmaison , markandcaroline , andre , "terry.seguin" , COCMoncton , nmoore , newsroom
https://411.ca/business/profile/983931
JEANNOT VOLPE
314E RUE PRINCIPALE
Saint-Jacques
New Brunswick, Canada
E7B 1X3
Phone (506) 737-4436,
Need I say that the sneaky lawyer Brian Mosher knows why I found this
stuff VERY interesting?
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/en/ForestsCrownLands/FPC/2013-2014.pdf
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/nr-rn/pdf/fr/ForetsEtTerresDeLaCouronne/ForProdCommission_YSC_Investigation_Report_Final.pdf
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From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:58:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Jean Bertin (506 444-5298) RE JDI vs SNB We just talked
about what I heard and read in CBC this morning Here is the email I
promised
To: jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com
Cc: David Amos , "Jacques.Poitras"
Trust that don't believe one word that Jeannot Volpé has to say on the topic.
Everybody knows that his former politcal boss Bernie Lord promised to
reverse the LIEbrano actions of changing the primary source of wood if
and when he won his first mandate and then the Conservatives NEVER
did.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jdi-woodlot-board-commission-1.4242677
Woodlot board fights J.D. Irving, industry players over control of private wood sales
'All of what's going on in that room, and all the money that's being spent on lawyers and all this time wasted is because the government will not do what they should do.' - Andrew Clark, woodlot owner
Commission chair Brian Mosher said a decision will be issued at a future date.
JDI vice president Jason Limongelli said he would not comment on the appeal until after the commission issues its decision.
"On Thursday, J.D. Irving lawyer Paul Steep told the commission that the marketing board's order is "not a lawful exercise of regulatory powers."
Its real purpose, he said, was to "force a contract with JDI."
https://www.mccarthy.ca/lawyer_detail.aspx?id=2582
R. Paul Steep Partner
McCarthy Tétrault
DIRECT LINE 416-601-7998
E-MAIL psteep@mccarthy.ca
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:18:56 -0400
Subject: RE JDI vs SNB
To: psteep@mccarthy.ca, bdsaw@mccarthy.ca, jcharest@mccarthy.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
"AV Group lawyer Doug Evans went even further, alleging "chaos" would result if the order was to be put into effect. He suggested the result would be a "dictatorial system."
"The present system works well," said Evans. "Why break a system that's working?"
http://www.coxandpalmerlaw.com/en/home/lawyers/profile.aspx/devans
Douglas A.M. Evans, QC
Acts as counsel in the Saint John office of Cox & PalmerDIRECT LINE (506) 633-2757
Cell: (506) 640-0632
E-MAIL devans@coxandpalmer.com
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:58:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Jean Bertin (506 444-5298) RE JDI vs SNB We just talked
about what I heard and read in CBC this morning Here is the email I
promised
To: jean.bertin@gnb.ca, keith.mary@jdirving.com, pfolkins@snbwc.ca,
Krishna.K@avg.adityabirla.com, daniel.wilcock@canada.ca,
nbfwo@nb.aibn.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca
Trust that don't believe one word that Jeannot Volpé has to say on the topic.
Everybody knows that his former politcal boss Bernie Lord promised to
reverse the LIEbrano actions of changing the primary source of wood if
and when he won his first mandate and then the Conservatives NEVER
did.
"David Duncan Young, the lawyer for the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board, countered that while the companies are "thumbing their noses" at the order, they have entered no evidence that the marketing board lacks the authority to issue it.
"They want a free market economy," Young said. "They want to control their own destiny."
That, said Young, is something they will have to take up with the legislature."
http://www.mcinnescooper.com/people/david-duncan-young/
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/08/re-cbc-censorship-and-my-last-call-to.html
Tuesday, 8 August 2017
RE CBC censorship and My last call to David Fraser of McInnes & Cooper about such things he yaps about constanty within CBC
Well the comment section started out pretty good with CBC acting in an ethical fashion and not blocking any comments of mine until a couple of their favourite Trolls pounced on me. As soon as I responded the blocking began almost instantly. I registered my indignation and those comments were blocked as well so I quit for the day.
I had had enough of David Fraser and his bullshit today. Trust that I will try to call the other two lawyers mentioned within this article tomorrow.
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 11:19:23 -0400
Subject: RE: My last call to David Fraser of McInnes & Cooper
To: john.kulik@mcinnescooper.com, david.fraser@mcinnescooper.com,
Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com, sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca, len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com,
ht.lacroix@cbc.ca, hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca,
Yvonne.Colbert@bc.ca, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca, eps@edmontonpolice.ca, cps@calgarypolice.ca, Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/canadian-transportation-agency-facebook-post-gabor-lukacs-1.4235123
Transportation agency accused of censorship after deleting online criticism
'This is a form of censorship ... and this is a violation of freedom
of speech,' says air passenger advocate
By Yvonne Colbert, CBC News Posted: Aug 08, 2017 6:00 AM AT
44 Comments
Ben Smith
lol same as on this site... and we own the CBC too.
Life under the Liberals.... always harder for some reason.
Gabor Lukacs
@Ben Smith
CBC is is not a governmental body. It is not subject to s. 2(b) of the Charter.
Darryl McBride
@Gabor Lukacs The CBC is tax payer funded and should be subject to the charter.
David Raymond Amos
This comment is awaiting moderation by the site administrators.
@Gabor Lukacs It is a Crown Corp that has a particular mandate to be
non partisan
David Raymond Amos
This comment is awaiting moderation by the site administrators.
@Darryl McBride I agree Furthermore what does CBC call it when they
block my comments?
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From: david.fraser@mcinnescooper.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:53:41 +0000
Subject: Your call
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
David,
could you please explain what you were getting at in your call just
now? I was in the middle of something else, wasn't able to understand
it all and then the line just cut out.
Thanks,
d.
Notice This communication, including any attachments, is confidential
and may be protected by solicitor/client privilege. It is intended
only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. If you have
received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by e-mail or
telephone at McInnes Cooper's expense. Avis Les informations contenues
dans ce courriel, y compris toute(s) pièce(s) jointe(s), sont
confidentielles et peuvent faire l'objet d'un privilège avocat-client.
Les informations sont dirigées au(x) destinataire(s) seulement. Si
vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur
par courriel ou par téléphone, aux frais de McInnes Cooper.
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From: "Kulik, John" john.kulik@mcinnescooper.com
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 17:37:49 +0000
Subject: McInnes Cooper
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Dear Mr. Amos:
I am General Counsel for McInnes Cooper. If you need to communicate
with our firm, please do so through me.
Thank you.
John Kulik
[McInnes Cooper]
John Kulik Q.C.
Partner & General Counsel
McInnes Cooper
tel +1 (902) 444 8571 | fax +1 (902) 425 6350
1969 Upper Water Street
Suite 1300
Purdy's Wharf Tower II Halifax, NS, B3J 2V1
asst Cathy Ohlhausen | +1 (902) 455 8215
Notice This communication, including any attachments, is confidential
and may be protected by solicitor/client privilege. It is intended
only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. If you have
received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by e-mail or
telephone at McInnes Cooper's expense. Avis Les informations contenues
dans ce courriel, y compris toute(s) pièce(s) jointe(s), sont
confidentielles et peuvent faire l'objet d'un privilège avocat-client.
Les informations sont dirigées au(x) destinataire(s) seulement. Si
vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur
par courriel ou par téléphone, aux frais de McInnes Cooper.
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From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
To: coi@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Good Day Sir
After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
to speak to one of your staff for the first time
Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
suggested that you study closely.
This is the docket in Federal Court
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
April 3rd, 2017
https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
The only hearing thus far
May 24th, 2017
https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
Date: 20151223
Docket: T-1557-15
Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Plaintiff
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Defendant
ORDER
(Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
December 14, 2015)
The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
in its entirety.
At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
(now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
he stated:
As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
You are your brother’s keeper.
Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
Police.
In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
[1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
is no order as to costs.
“B. Richard Bell”
Judge
Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
"FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:
January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!
Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau?
Vertias Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
On 8/3/17, David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com wrote:
> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:39:12 -0600
Subject: Re Our Rights under the Charter Whereas Joseph Hickey won't
talk to me perhaps Perhaps Dr. Gábor Lukács will do so someday EH?
To: lukacs@airpassengerrights.ca, joseph.hickey@ocla.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
FYI I just called both of them from 902 800 0369 and they did not pick up
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/air-passenger-advocate-launches-constitutional-challenge-1.2281401
http://topgroups.ca/~lukacs/
http://ocla.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2013-09-22-OCLA-Lukacs-motion_to_intervene-DIGITAL.pdf
Dr. Gábor Lukács
Halifax, NS
Tel: (647) 724 1727
Fax: (902) 404-5644
Email: lukacs@airpassengerrights.ca
Ontario Civil Liberties Association (OCLA)
180 Metcalfe Street, Suite 204
Ottawa, ON K2P 1P5
Joseph Hickey, Executive Director
Tel: (613) 252-6148
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-forest-plan-possible-changes-1.3988545
Gallant government 'still making decisions' about forest plan changes
35 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
Roland Godin
With our preferance for doodling
painting by number politiicans to manage the resources we will be out of wood
before being out of the wood...et voilà.
David Raymond Amos
@Roland Godin Methinks painting by
the number speaks well of the math skills of our bilingual bean-counting
bureaucrats who advise our mindless politicians in the "The Place to
Be"
BTW Remember how much the "Be in this Place" slogan cost us because liberal could not come up with an original thought?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-sets-sail-with-new-slogan-1.772379
"The province, which rolled out the updated branding late last week, spent $229,000 on the research, consultation and development of the new way to market itself, a cost that includes a national advertising campaign.
The new logo and slogan are just the beginning of what will come from the branding research, said Stuart Baker of Branding Merchants in Saint John, the group that developed the concept."
3 years later the conservatives had fun kidding us about the waste of taxpayer funds but had no better plan. N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/n-b-official-admits-be-slogan-was-failure-1.1010341
"Porter said the cost of the slogan and marketing materials jumped to $840,000 from the anticipated $229,000.
The Alward government dropped the unpopular slogan in March, but continues to use the graphic design adopted by the Liberals.
"So do you think those consultants would be interested in giving us half our money back, considering we're only using half their work? I'm kidding," said PC MLA Glen Savoie."
BTW Remember how much the "Be in this Place" slogan cost us because liberal could not come up with an original thought?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-sets-sail-with-new-slogan-1.772379
"The province, which rolled out the updated branding late last week, spent $229,000 on the research, consultation and development of the new way to market itself, a cost that includes a national advertising campaign.
The new logo and slogan are just the beginning of what will come from the branding research, said Stuart Baker of Branding Merchants in Saint John, the group that developed the concept."
3 years later the conservatives had fun kidding us about the waste of taxpayer funds but had no better plan. N'esy Pas?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/n-b-official-admits-be-slogan-was-failure-1.1010341
"Porter said the cost of the slogan and marketing materials jumped to $840,000 from the anticipated $229,000.
The Alward government dropped the unpopular slogan in March, but continues to use the graphic design adopted by the Liberals.
"So do you think those consultants would be interested in giving us half our money back, considering we're only using half their work? I'm kidding," said PC MLA Glen Savoie."
Michael Hunt
IRVING says JUMP , GALLANT says HOW
HIGH!!!
Freddy Rose
@Michael Hunt
Irving doesn't want him to jump, they want him, and the rest of us peons, to bend over.
Irving doesn't want him to jump, they want him, and the rest of us peons, to bend over.
David Raymond Amos
@Michael Hunt He says that to all
the politicians and they all obey or else.
William Roberts
William Roberts
@Michael Hunt You make it
sound like this is solely relegated to the Liberals/Gallant government.
The last one to put up a fight against the Irvings was Louis J in the
60s. It has been bend for a friend ever since regardless of political
stripes.
Paul Bourgoin
Weak, bought and paid for elected
officials who sold their integrity, forgot who they represent have set up a
Forestry Round Table formulating the future of the New Brunswick forest over a
decade ago. The Round Table Leadership bought and paid for, an incompetent
chairman. The Chairmen praised by industry, decorated with Canada's highest
honor, then exposed as an incompetent impostor, his Medal repossessed by The
Order of Canada and still is praised by the Forest industry. History will
report that these forestry money scams have stolen our Grand Children's Legacy
which is sleeping in offshore bank accounts. That our Forest was a source of
life but now is a tree farm and our once prosperous watershed and wildlife
habitat are gone.
Paul Bourgoin
@Paul Bourgoin
Why would the Province of New Brunswick close all those Forest Ranger Offices and reduce the the Environmental, Fish and Wildlife Enforcement eyes out of the New Brunswick Forest?
Rest assured it happened by design not by accident!
Why would the Province of New Brunswick close all those Forest Ranger Offices and reduce the the Environmental, Fish and Wildlife Enforcement eyes out of the New Brunswick Forest?
Rest assured it happened by design not by accident!
David Raymond Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Good point sir.
William Roberts
David Raymond Amos
William Roberts
@Paul Bourgoin A couple of
years back I had cause to contact F&G NB to report a moose down(no
obvious cause). A day or two later an agent showed up and I was soon
informed there were only two such ft and one part time officer to care
for Sussex to St Stephens. Can you possibly image? One FT was out sick
on that day.
David Raymond Amos
@William Roberts They must all hang their hat in Sussex because that is about how many "Rangers" hang around there.
john bourque
Even though the government has
changed many times over the years who controls our Crown wood has not, the talk
now for many year among land owners has been, how are the Irving's going to get
their greedy hands on private woodlands since crown wood is 95% gone.
David Raymond Amos
@john bourque I am wondering if a
judge in Saint John will allow the Irving Empire to sue the private woodlot
folks around Sussex and if and when CBC will report it.
FYI the Irving's application should be heard next Tuesday..
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-launches-suit-against-woodlot-groups-1.3962317
FYI the Irving's application should be heard next Tuesday..
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-launches-suit-against-woodlot-groups-1.3962317
Norma
Christie
I stopped being a Liberal after the
Graham government. This Liberal government is all for the entrepreneur and not
for the land and the people. I will always vote Green for my grandchildren and
great grandchildren.
David Raymond Amos
@Norma Christie Why is it that I am
not surprised?
Paul Bourgoin
The N B Crown lands greatest threat
is Industry’s unopposed influence rulings on what happens on Crown land, Fish,
Wildlife and Habitat. The Conservative the Liberal Government are no match for
the industry’s influence on the Boreal forest now a converted softwood tree
farm.
Crown forest, once excellent habitat for fish and wildlife populations has now been converted into softwood tree farms.Government warned by Arnold H. Boer, the Director of the Fish and Wildlife Branch in a 1973 edition N.B. Deer Management Report #1,“Forestry today is the single most important factor threatening New Brunswick Deer" 1987-88-89, Biologist Norman Prentice saw a loophole in the F M Agreement, the collapse of the Northern deer herd over the next eight to ten years.
The U.N.B.Dean of Forestry in November, 1987 commented on licensee performance, the effectiveness of The C. L. Forest Act. In the “Implementation of the Forest Act observation and comments on the process G.L. Baskerville, said “In the first five years the licensees learned more how to get approval of documents through the D.N.R system, then they learned how to manage a forest.”
Crown forest, once excellent habitat for fish and wildlife populations has now been converted into softwood tree farms.Government warned by Arnold H. Boer, the Director of the Fish and Wildlife Branch in a 1973 edition N.B. Deer Management Report #1,“Forestry today is the single most important factor threatening New Brunswick Deer" 1987-88-89, Biologist Norman Prentice saw a loophole in the F M Agreement, the collapse of the Northern deer herd over the next eight to ten years.
The U.N.B.Dean of Forestry in November, 1987 commented on licensee performance, the effectiveness of The C. L. Forest Act. In the “Implementation of the Forest Act observation and comments on the process G.L. Baskerville, said “In the first five years the licensees learned more how to get approval of documents through the D.N.R system, then they learned how to manage a forest.”
Paul Bourgoin
@Paul Bourgoin
A 1991 survey, 88% of New Brunswiker’s spent 38 million days enjoying wildlife related activities. Wildlife recreation contributed $138 million to the New Brunswick economy$50 million hunting, $ 62 million fishing, $ 88 million by non-consumptive consumers generating 2,500 wildlife jobs, 2100 person-years from service generating $200 million yearly by residents.The 1982 crown land and forest act when introduced in 1982 there were 35,000 forestry jobs today 2016 only 12, 000 remain
In 1995, Alan Graham, DNRE Minister explained that DNRE is responsible for the management of Wildlife populations across NB, regardless of Landownership, wildlife belongs to the people of NB and not individual landowners.Deer concentration on Wapske, to be no more than 100 deer on the entire Block yet 3 years ago there were over 1000 deer.Forestry practices in NB is leaving no room for wildlife habitat and wildlife populations. The Crown Land and Forest ACT in 1982,cut 35,000 forestry jobs to 12,000 today. A loss in revenue close to a Billion dollars..
2015 Deer harvest 4,314 .
An 86 % harvest decline .
A 1991 survey, 88% of New Brunswiker’s spent 38 million days enjoying wildlife related activities. Wildlife recreation contributed $138 million to the New Brunswick economy$50 million hunting, $ 62 million fishing, $ 88 million by non-consumptive consumers generating 2,500 wildlife jobs, 2100 person-years from service generating $200 million yearly by residents.The 1982 crown land and forest act when introduced in 1982 there were 35,000 forestry jobs today 2016 only 12, 000 remain
In 1995, Alan Graham, DNRE Minister explained that DNRE is responsible for the management of Wildlife populations across NB, regardless of Landownership, wildlife belongs to the people of NB and not individual landowners.Deer concentration on Wapske, to be no more than 100 deer on the entire Block yet 3 years ago there were over 1000 deer.Forestry practices in NB is leaving no room for wildlife habitat and wildlife populations. The Crown Land and Forest ACT in 1982,cut 35,000 forestry jobs to 12,000 today. A loss in revenue close to a Billion dollars..
2015 Deer harvest 4,314 .
An 86 % harvest decline .
john bourque
@Paul Bourgoin Something they never
talk about is how we pay millions each year to build roads so the Irving's can
get to the crown wood, roads never even seen by 99.999% of new brunswickers.
Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@john bourque SO TRUE!!
How can he make-changes when the Conservatives promised the give away of the forest after abandoning Fish, Wildlife, the Forest Rangers while paving the crown land give-away.
If Gallant doesn't, Higgs Conservatives will!
There goes our Grand Children's Legacy!!
How can he make-changes when the Conservatives promised the give away of the forest after abandoning Fish, Wildlife, the Forest Rangers while paving the crown land give-away.
If Gallant doesn't, Higgs Conservatives will!
There goes our Grand Children's Legacy!!
David Raymond Amos
@john bourque s You no doubt know
most folks particularly politicians and journalists are too scared to sad
anything ill of the Irving Empire
William Roberts
William Roberts
@john bourque It has been
repeatedly stated that the forestry industry continues to suffer huge
loses due to the cost/benefit ratio enjoyed by the Irvings cutting on
crown lands/stumpage fees and the over whelming cost to tax payers to
give them access. We could save $B by just shutting it down. Save the
trees and the surrounding ecosystem that is destroyed for Irving profits
Tyler Foley
Mr. Poitras, you've been penning
some nice articles lately! But you could spill a little more ink on this issue,
big time! While NBers are prone to exaggeration, this is just one more plan
created in smoke-filled rooms with Irving henchmen and delivered to spineless
ladder-climbing inferiority-complex having yes-men so often elected in NB.
Irving vs. Irving was an awesome book, but there is so much more to tell!
David Raymond Amos
@Tyler Foley I believe Poitras once
worked for the Irving Empire Hence methinks he will only reveal what is already
well known.
Rick Aubie
Yes Jim......................
David Raymond Amos
@Rick Aubie That Mr Jim to we serfs
within his Kingdom
john bourque
Irving makes lots of jobs,
banking jobs in Bermuda.
banking jobs in Bermuda.
David Raymond Amos
@john bourque Sad but true
John Jude
The province will grab its ankles
for Irving.
David Raymond Amos
@John Jude Very sad but oh so true
Hank Hanrattay
Irving pioneered the practice of
"Profit off the Public"
Wish we could get a government formed that would be for our benefit as opposed to Irvings!
Wish we could get a government formed that would be for our benefit as opposed to Irvings!
David Raymond Amos
@Hank Hanrattay Dream on
Hank Hanrattay
Hank Hanrattay
@David Raymond Amos Oh I do, thats all we do is dream. NBr's need to smarten up and stand up!
David Raymond Amos
@Hank Hanrattay Hmmm CBC
blocked many of my comments recently yet allowed every one to stand the
test of time today Go Figure why I think the government needs to get out
of the journalism industry ASAP.
Aaron Allison
Big announcement coming March 31,
2017, Irving gets more Tax payers get less
David Raymond Amos
@Aaron Allison Methinks you should
seek employment with the Irving Empire HQ in Bermuda as a fortune teller
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-continues-to-harvest-crown-land-despite-ban-1.1251781
Irving continues to harvest Crown land despite ban
Halt order doesn't apply to J.D. Irving Limited, says spokesman
CBC News Posted: Jun 25, 2012 6:25 PM AT
New Brunswick's biggest forestry company says the provincial
government’s ban on harvesting pulpwood on Crown land does not apply to
its operations.
J.D. Irving Limited is still harvesting Crown pulp, company spokesperson Robert Fawcett confirmed on Monday.
But he says Irving has permission from the minister of Natural Resources.
"We are in full compliance with the correspondence we have received from the minister's office," Fawcett said.
"We are continuing to run our saw mill and we're continuing to delay
and reduce pulpwood that we produce on Crown land wherever we can and
we've made a dramatic difference in that.
"But we are still taking a little bit of pulp from Crown lands," he said.
On June 12, Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup announced he had issued a halt order for cutting pulpwood and whole tree chipping on Crown land.
Northrup told the annual meeting of the Federation of Woodlot Owners that he was acting to resolve a "major crisis" in the abundance of softwood pulp on the market.
Northrup said he would ensure that industry buys private wood first and that softwood pulpwood from Crown land must remain on the harvest site or roadside — although he didn't say how the new rules would be enforced or what penalties industry might face for non-compliance.
At the time, Northrup said nothing about any exceptions.
In fact, he told CBC News he'd check into reports of some loads of Crown pulp seen moving into the Sussex mill that morning.
Northrup was unavailable to comment Monday. A staff member at his constituency office in Sussex said the minister was in back-to-back meetings at an undisclosed location in town.
The New Brunswick Forest Products Association says its members are complying with the ministerial order.
J.D. Irving Limited is no longer a member of that group.
On Monday, a truck rolled into the Irving sawmill in Sussex with a large orange "X" on the load, indicating it’s wood from Crown land.
And according to Chris Spencer, a certified forest technician with
the Southern New Brunswick Wood Co-operative Ltd., the size and
condition of the wood indicates that it was pulp.
"It would certainly appear that was a load of Crown pulp, the "X" indicating that it was Crown wood, and the rot and the holes in the middle indicate it was pulpwood material," Spencer said.
Some woodlot owners had expressed skepticism over the ban when it was announced. They questioned whether the minister could enforce the halt order since he hadn't set any penalties for non-compliance.
The woodlot owners say they have not been able to sell pulpwood for months as a result of an overabundance of product caused by recent mill closings and because forestry companies are taking their supplies from Crown land at low prices.
The market share for the private woodlot sector fell to nine per cent in 2010-11 from 28 per cent in 1990-91.
A new Forest Sector Competitiveness Committee, made up of government, industry and woodlot owners, will look at long-term solutions, the minister has said.
J.D. Irving Limited is still harvesting Crown pulp, company spokesperson Robert Fawcett confirmed on Monday.
But he says Irving has permission from the minister of Natural Resources.
"We are in full compliance with the correspondence we have received from the minister's office," Fawcett said.
"But we are still taking a little bit of pulp from Crown lands," he said.
On June 12, Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup announced he had issued a halt order for cutting pulpwood and whole tree chipping on Crown land.
Northrup told the annual meeting of the Federation of Woodlot Owners that he was acting to resolve a "major crisis" in the abundance of softwood pulp on the market.
Northrup said he would ensure that industry buys private wood first and that softwood pulpwood from Crown land must remain on the harvest site or roadside — although he didn't say how the new rules would be enforced or what penalties industry might face for non-compliance.
No exemptions mentioned
In fact, he told CBC News he'd check into reports of some loads of Crown pulp seen moving into the Sussex mill that morning.
Northrup was unavailable to comment Monday. A staff member at his constituency office in Sussex said the minister was in back-to-back meetings at an undisclosed location in town.
The New Brunswick Forest Products Association says its members are complying with the ministerial order.
J.D. Irving Limited is no longer a member of that group.
On Monday, a truck rolled into the Irving sawmill in Sussex with a large orange "X" on the load, indicating it’s wood from Crown land.
"It would certainly appear that was a load of Crown pulp, the "X" indicating that it was Crown wood, and the rot and the holes in the middle indicate it was pulpwood material," Spencer said.
Some woodlot owners had expressed skepticism over the ban when it was announced. They questioned whether the minister could enforce the halt order since he hadn't set any penalties for non-compliance.
The woodlot owners say they have not been able to sell pulpwood for months as a result of an overabundance of product caused by recent mill closings and because forestry companies are taking their supplies from Crown land at low prices.
The market share for the private woodlot sector fell to nine per cent in 2010-11 from 28 per cent in 1990-91.
A new Forest Sector Competitiveness Committee, made up of government, industry and woodlot owners, will look at long-term solutions, the minister has said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jdi-woodlot-board-commission-1.4242677
Woodlot board fights J.D. Irving, industry players over control of private wood sales
Case pits J.D. Irving Ltd., AV Group, and several contractors and smaller players against SNB Forest Product
By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Aug 10, 2017 8:06 PM AT
A fight over the future of wood sales from private lots was
argued before the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission on Thursday.
At stake was the marketing board system that's governed wood sales from private woodlot owners for most of the past four decades.
The case pits J.D. Irving Ltd., AV Group, and several contractors and smaller players against the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board in Sussex.
The marketing board has not been able to negotiate a contract to sell wood to JDI since 2012.
Instead, Irving bought all of its wood in that region directly from individual woodlot owners and a group of wood harvesting contractors.
The cheques still passed through the marketing board, allowing it to collect a three per cent levy.
But early last year, believing it has the authority under New Brunswick's Natural Products Act, the market board countered with an order declaring it has control over all wood purchased and sold from private woodlots in its territory, which extends from Moncton to just west of Saint John.
The issue, in one form or another, has been before the Forest Products Commission and the courts since.
On Thursday, J.D. Irving lawyer Paul Steep told the commission that the marketing board's order is "not a lawful exercise of regulatory powers."
Its real purpose, he said, was to "force a contract with JDI."
Steep argued the board is in a conflict because it negotiates deals with both its own members and with the woodlot community at large.
AV Group lawyer Doug Evans went even further, alleging "chaos" would result if the order was to be put into effect.
He suggested the result would be a "dictatorial system."
"The present system works well," said Evans. "Why break a system that's working?"
David Duncan Young, the lawyer for the SNB Forest Products Marketing
Board, countered that while the companies are "thumbing their noses" at
the order, they have entered no evidence that the marketing board lacks
the authority to issue it.
"They want a free market economy," Young said. "They want to control their own destiny."
That, said Young, is something they will have to take up with the legislature.
From the back of the room, Andrew Clark, a woodlot owner and director of the Carleton York-Sunbury-Charlotte Forest Products Marketing Board, watched Thursday's proceedings.
Clark said it's time for the provincial government to remind the companies that they were granted guaranteed access to wood from Crown land in exchange for also buying from the marketing boards.
"I am absolutely frustrated and disgusted with my governments," said Clark. "None of them have had the guts to stand up and end this foolishness,
"All of what's going on in that room, and all the money that's being spent on lawyers and all this time wasted is because the government will not do what they should do."
Commission chair Brian Mosher said a decision will be issued at a future date.
JDI vice president Jason Limongelli said he would not comment on the appeal until after the commission issues its decision.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-woodlot-lawsuit-trial-1.3992584
At stake was the marketing board system that's governed wood sales from private woodlot owners for most of the past four decades.
The case pits J.D. Irving Ltd., AV Group, and several contractors and smaller players against the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board in Sussex.
The marketing board has not been able to negotiate a contract to sell wood to JDI since 2012.
Instead, Irving bought all of its wood in that region directly from individual woodlot owners and a group of wood harvesting contractors.
The cheques still passed through the marketing board, allowing it to collect a three per cent levy.
But early last year, believing it has the authority under New Brunswick's Natural Products Act, the market board countered with an order declaring it has control over all wood purchased and sold from private woodlots in its territory, which extends from Moncton to just west of Saint John.
The issue, in one form or another, has been before the Forest Products Commission and the courts since.
Accused of 'forcing' contract
On Thursday, J.D. Irving lawyer Paul Steep told the commission that the marketing board's order is "not a lawful exercise of regulatory powers."
Its real purpose, he said, was to "force a contract with JDI."
Steep argued the board is in a conflict because it negotiates deals with both its own members and with the woodlot community at large.
AV Group lawyer Doug Evans went even further, alleging "chaos" would result if the order was to be put into effect.
He suggested the result would be a "dictatorial system."
"The present system works well," said Evans. "Why break a system that's working?"
"They want a free market economy," Young said. "They want to control their own destiny."
That, said Young, is something they will have to take up with the legislature.
Guaranteed access
From the back of the room, Andrew Clark, a woodlot owner and director of the Carleton York-Sunbury-Charlotte Forest Products Marketing Board, watched Thursday's proceedings.
'All of what's going on in that room, and all the money that's being spent on lawyers and all this time wasted is because the government will not do what they should do.' - Andrew Clark, woodlot owner
Clark said it's time for the provincial government to remind the companies that they were granted guaranteed access to wood from Crown land in exchange for also buying from the marketing boards.
"I am absolutely frustrated and disgusted with my governments," said Clark. "None of them have had the guts to stand up and end this foolishness,
"All of what's going on in that room, and all the money that's being spent on lawyers and all this time wasted is because the government will not do what they should do."
Commission chair Brian Mosher said a decision will be issued at a future date.
JDI vice president Jason Limongelli said he would not comment on the appeal until after the commission issues its decision.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-woodlot-lawsuit-trial-1.3992584
J.D. Irving challenge to southern N.B. woodlot groups heads to trial
In dispute are powers of the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board
By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 21, 2017 4:39 PM AT
J.D. Irving's dispute with two southern New Brunswick woodlot groups will go to trial, a judge in Saint John has decided.
Justice William Grant dismissed arguments by SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group, the SNB Wood Cooperative, that JDI lacked standing in the case and that the application was an abuse of the court process.
JDI wants a contract between the two groups representing southern New Brunswick woodlot owners declared unlawful by the Court of Queen's Bench. The forestry company says the marketing board has unlawfully delegated its powers to the co-operative.
Grant found there was enough disagreement over the facts to warrant a trial.
"Clearly there are disputes of fact in this case," the judge said.
At the root of the case is a January 2016 order from the marketing board that attempts to assert its authority under the New Brunswick's Natural Products Act over sales from private woodlots within its territory.
The order declared that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.
JDI stopped buying wood from SNB in 2012 and has been bypassing the board to make deals directly with wood brokers and woodlot owners within the board's designated boundaries. The marketing board does not control the terms or the price.
Another company, AV Group, with mills in Nackawic and Atholville, has applied to be an intervener in the case.
In the meantime, a related appeal by JDI to the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission is scheduled to be heard March 14 and 15.
The company is challenging the validity of the SNB Marketing Board order.
Commission chair Brian Mosher told CBC News on Tuesday that the two-day hearing will likely take place in private.
Commission hearings are, by default, open but can be closed if members agree. Whether the JDI hearing will be open or closed will be decided at a meeting Wednesday.
Justice William Grant dismissed arguments by SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group, the SNB Wood Cooperative, that JDI lacked standing in the case and that the application was an abuse of the court process.
JDI wants a contract between the two groups representing southern New Brunswick woodlot owners declared unlawful by the Court of Queen's Bench. The forestry company says the marketing board has unlawfully delegated its powers to the co-operative.
Grant found there was enough disagreement over the facts to warrant a trial.
"Clearly there are disputes of fact in this case," the judge said.
At the root of the case is a January 2016 order from the marketing board that attempts to assert its authority under the New Brunswick's Natural Products Act over sales from private woodlots within its territory.
The order declared that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.
JDI stopped buying wood from SNB in 2012 and has been bypassing the board to make deals directly with wood brokers and woodlot owners within the board's designated boundaries. The marketing board does not control the terms or the price.
More from woodlots
Earlier this month, JDI placed a half-page ad in the Telegraph-Journal newspaper claiming it is on track to purchase more wood from private woodlots than ever before.Another company, AV Group, with mills in Nackawic and Atholville, has applied to be an intervener in the case.
In the meantime, a related appeal by JDI to the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission is scheduled to be heard March 14 and 15.
The company is challenging the validity of the SNB Marketing Board order.
Commission chair Brian Mosher told CBC News on Tuesday that the two-day hearing will likely take place in private.
Commission hearings are, by default, open but can be closed if members agree. Whether the JDI hearing will be open or closed will be decided at a meeting Wednesday.
Gallant government 'still making decisions' about forest plan changes
Premier says any changes to 2014 deal between industry and province will be revealed in coming weeks
By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Feb 17, 2017 4:25 PM ATPremier Brian Gallant says his government will reveal "in the next few weeks" whether it will make changes to the controversial forestry plan put in place by the previous Progressive Conservative government in 2014.
The plan gave forestry companies increased wood allocations that were supposed to spur the creation of hundreds of new jobs, in part because of mill expansions.
But environmentalists and private woodlot owners complained in 2014 that the plan, and resulting contracts signed with the largest companies, gave away too much.
Gallant told reporters those contracts make the review "a bit more complicated." The premier acknowledged two years ago the wood allocation provisions could not be changed.
'It's very complex'
"It's very complex as you can imagine, specifically, given the fact that the previous government had prepared their plan and signed some contracts," Gallant said Friday.
The plan allowed companies to harvest 660,000 more cubic metres of softwood on Crown land, which is publicly owned. That was expected to create 500 more permanent jobs in the industry as well as 1,200 construction jobs during mill expansions.
That came at the expense of conservation areas and sustainable harvesting, critics said.
The Liberals promised in 2014 to evaluate "options under the current forestry plan and submit the sustainability provisions in the plan to a proper review."
In early 2015, then-natural resources minister Denis Landry said the government would change "maybe some things that aren't major, maybe some things that are major."
Still making decisions
Gallant wouldn't comment Friday on what's on the table.
"We're still in talks. We're still making decisions."
"It's business as usual with regards to commitments the province has made with allocations," he said. "Those commitments are pretty strong.
But he said it's possible companies could agree to other changes to accommodate what the Liberals want to achieve.
"I don't think there's a lot of room [for changes] but I'm sure we could get creative as an industry if there's something they want us to do."
'I don't think there's a lot of room [for changes] but I'm sure we could get creative as an industry if there's something they want us to do.' - Mike Legere, executive director Forest NB
Legere said the pending announcement is probably linked to the upcoming signing of five-year plans by private companies who cut wood on the public land they lease from the province.
Those plans couldn't be finalized without any changes the government wanted to make to the overall plan, he said.
Legere said forestry companies have been more preoccupied with other issues lately, including an expected spruce budworm infestation and the lack of a Canada-U.S. softwood lumber agreement. The previous agreement, which expired last year, exempted lumber from the Maritime provinces from trade penalties.
Wood supply issues
Progressive Conservative MLA Ross Wetmore, the opposition critic for natural resources, said the Liberal changes should address criticisms made by Auditor-General Kim MacPherson in 2015.
MacPherson criticized the province's "failure to comply with its own legislation and provide leadership on private wood supply issues through a well-defined role and clear objectives."
"I think this government should be looking at the auditor general's report and acting on it," Wetmore said. "That's what they're supposed to do."
MacPherson also said the government wasn't overseeing silviculture programs on Crown land.
Wetmore brushed off a question about whether the PC forestry plan should have included stronger provisions on those two points, saying it's up to the Liberals to act on the auditor-general's findings.
"This is what she's saying," he said. "They're government. We're not in government."
Green Party Leader David Coon said the Liberals should do more to support private woodlots, including defending the wood marketing boards that have been in a legal battle with J.D. Irving Ltd.
But he agreed that the 2014 contracts with forest companies that incorporated the increased wood allocations mean it'll be hard for the Liberals to make substantial changes.
"So they haven't got any wiggle room whatsoever that I can see," Coon said. "But it'll be interesting to see what they come up with."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-wood-marketing-boards-dispute-1.3966168
Industry dispute with wood marketing boards needs government action, says ex-minister
Jeannot Volpé says marketing board should be 'primary source' of wood for industry on trial basis
By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 06, 2017 6:30 AM ATFormer New Brunswick natural resources minister Jeannot Volpé says it is time for the province to show leadership in the dispute between industry and woodlot marketing boards.
Volpé says the government should consider a requirement that industrial players like J.D. Irving, Limited. buy a portion of their wood from New Brunswick's forest product marketing boards as a condition for access to trees on Crown land.
Volpé says a current lawsuit launched by J.D. Irving will only do more damage to already struggling woodlot groups.
"Going to those courts costs a lot of money," said Volpé. "And for a marketing board to invest $100,000 in a court case, it's a lot of money. For a big company who will recover it over cheaper wood long-term, it's an investment."
Lawsuit filed by J.D. Irving
J.D. Irving has filed a legal action against the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and the SNB Wood Co-operative.
The lawsuit asks the Court of Queen's Bench to declare a contract between the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group, the SNB Wood Cooperative, unlawful.
It is the latest in a series of moves by J.D. Irving to break the hold New Brunswick's wood marketing boards have over sales from private woodlots.
At the root of the case is a January 2016 order issued by the co-operative declaring that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.
Along the way, J.D. Irving Ltd. lost appeals to both the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission and the New Brunswick Court of Appeal.
Despite those setbacks the company continues to contract wood sales directly with private woodlot owners, rather than with SNB.
It has also filed a second appeal to the Forest Products Commission arguing that the SNB board's order is not valid.
'It seems like industry's got all the cards.' - Jeannot Volpé, ex-natural resources minister
Volpé says there have been times in past decades when marketing boards failed to honour contracts made with the big companies.
But the pendulum, he says, has swung in the other direction.
"Right now it's moved to the other way around where it seems like industry's got all the cards," said Volpé. "This is for government to decide and [they] don't seem to be ready to do it."
Irving defends its purchase record
In a written statement J.D. Irving vice-president Jason Limongelli defended the lawsuit and the company's record of purchasing from private woodlots.
"This is not a lawsuit against woodlot owners or wood producers," said Limongelli. "The application is intended to prevent disruption to the flow of private wood and protect the manner in which wood purchases have been successfully conducted over the past number of years."
The company's allegations have not been tested in court.
Limongelli goes on to say the company's purchase of private wood has increased 200 per cent over the past 10 years.
"This year, JDI's private wood and stumpage purchase programs resulted in a record volume of private wood purchases," said Limongelli.
"The company has purchased 46 per cent more wood than last year, and are on track for the highest volume of private wood purchases in the company's history."
J.D. Irving did not respond to a question by CBC News for the company's position on the role of the forest product marketing boards.
Jean Bertin responded in an email on behalf of the government, which he said supports "the current practices" for wood flow.
"Private wood harvest levels have steadily increased since 2010 and continue to flow at high levels in 2016/17. Private woodlot volumes have returned to similar levels experienced before the economic downturn in 2007.
"With the current levels of private wood harvesting back to historic levels, there does not appear to be a market issue."
Bertin said the closure of pulp mills has created an oversupply of low-grade material in the Atlantic region and the province is looking to find other uses for low-grade material.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-launches-suit-against-woodlot-groups-1.3962317
J.D. Irving launches suit against woodlot groups
Legal action follows attempt by SNB board to assert authority over wood purchases
By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Feb 02, 2017 6:30 AM ATJ.D. Irving Ltd. has launched a lawsuit against two groups representing private woodlot owners in southern New Brunswick.
The outcome could have far-reaching implications for the way private wood is bought and sold in New Brunswick and the price obtained by individual woodlot owners.
The lawsuit asks the Court of Queen's Bench to declare a contract between the SNB Forest Products Marketing Board and its sister group, the SNB Wood Cooperative, unlawful.
At the root of the case is a 2015 order issued by the co-operative declaring that wood from private woodlots can only be sold to the marketing board, and wood purchasers can only buy from the board.
JDI stopped buying wood from SNB in 2012 but has been making deals directly with woodlot owners within SNB's provincially designated boundaries.
In its statement of claim, JDI says the SNB marketing board has unlawfully delegated its powers to the SNB co-operative.
In issuing its order, SNB cited the province's Natural Products Act.
"JDI is directly and adversely affected by the unlawful delegation of the SNB Board's powers and function to the Co-op," the company says in its statement of claim.
Allegations not tested in court
The company's allegations have not been tested in court.
Another company, AV Group, with mills in Nackawick and Atholville, has applied to be an intervener in the case, suggesting the implications could be felt provincewide.
"It's going to be a challenging few years for the industry," said Susannah Banks, manager of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners. "There is a move toward more direct contracts with brokers as opposed to contracts with marketing boards."
"It's a classic case of injustice," said Coon.
"Can you imagine if family farmers were treated this way or lobster fishermen were treated this way? There would be a revolution in parts of New Brunswick."
It's an issue New Brunswick's auditor general, Kim MacPherson, waded into in her 2015 report.
"We have concluded the Department of Natural Resources does not meet its principal responsibilities under legislation respecting timber supply from private forest lands," said the report.
"The Department's failure to comply with its own legislation and provide leadership on private wood supply issues through a well-defined role and clear objectives contributes to uncertainty for private woodlot owners and conflicts within the marketing board system."
Both SNB's general manager, Pam Folkins, and J.D. Irving's Mary Keith said they cannot comment on the lawsuit because the matter is before the courts.
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