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Methinks Mr Jones of CBC quoted the latest NB Power boss Keith Cronkhite and the sneaky Yankee Bruce Chapman to jerk my chain in order for many folks could hear me howl at Higgy et al N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-paper-new-brunswick-mills-1.6108951
Electricity subsidies to pulp and paper mills to continue, despite NB Power's rising debt
Utility forced to pay $9.7 million in mill subsidies last year despite its financial troubles
An effort to fix NB Power's struggling finances that is supposed to involve a look at "all options" will not include a review of the policy that requires the utility to subsidize electricity prices for six New Brunswick pulp and paper mills, according to the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development.
The program is meant "to enable New Brunswick's pulp and paper companies have access to competitive priced electricity," said the department's communications officer Nick Brown in an email Monday
"Keeping our large industries competitive with other Canadian jurisdictions is important," he wrote, knocking down the idea the subsidy program might be scrutinized for shortcomings like other NB Power expenses.
Figures released last week show NB Power paid out $9.7 million in rate subsidies to the mills under the program in the fiscal year ended in March 2021, even though the utility was losing $4 million for the year and falling deeper into debt.
Subsidies went to three mills owned by J.D. Irving Ltd. including two in Saint John and one in Lake Utopia, two owned by the AV group in Nackawic and Atholville and the Twin Rivers pulp mill in Edmundston.
The New Brunswick government has made NB Power subsidize pulp and paper mills like Twin Rivers Paper Company since 2012, and is requiring the program to continue despite financial problems at the utility. (CBC)
It was NB Power's second year in a row of financial losses, while it is supposed to pay down $500 million of its $4.9 billion debt load in the next five years to prepare for the refurbishment of the Mactaquac dam, under a directive issued by the province
NB Power president Keith Cronkhite said he was "very disappointed" with debt increasing last year instead of falling and senior vice president and chief financial officer Darren Murphy said everything would be under the microscope this year to turn the utility's finances around.
"We need to do better," said Murphy on Thursday
"We need to step back and make sure we're considering all options to achieve that objective because the objective is quickly closing in on us."
However, reviewing the subsidy program for the six pulp and paper mills is apparently off limits.
The subsidy program requires NB Power to buy down the cost of "firm" electricity bought by pulp and paper mills to a national average that is calculated by the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development.
Last year the province declared the price mills in New Brunswick pay to be an average of 7.536 cents per kilowatt hour (kwh). It is higher than rates in five other provinces that have mills, which the province points to as justification for the subsidies, although the true significance of that difference is not entirely clear.
In British Columbia, the large forest products company Paper Excellence operates five pulp and paper mills which are charged 17.2 per cent less for firm electricity than the six mills in New Brunswick.
he
Paper Excellence Paper Mill in Port Alberni, B.C. pays lower
electricity prices than mills in New Brunswick, a benefit largely offset
by higher property taxes. It's a factor New Brunswick does not count in
calculating subsidies NB Power must pay. (Paper Excellence)
However, local property taxes on the five BC mills are a combined $7.8 million higher than the six New Brunswick plants, negating much of that difference.
The province's subsidy formula does not account for differences like that or for the fact New Brunswick mills buy a high percentage of their electricity at cheap non-firm prices.
Not counting the subsidies, NB Power already sells high volumes of what it calls interruptible and surplus power to industry at deep discounts on the understanding it can be cut off and redeployed elsewhere on short notice when needed.
Actual interruptions in service are rare. Last year there were none, but NB Power sold 837 million kilowatt hours of the discounted power to industry at an average price of 4.9 cents per kwh.
NB Power does not disclose how much of the $22 million or more in savings went to the six mills, but the price was 35 per cent below NB Power's posted rate for the plants and rivaled firm prices big mills receive anywhere in Canada, including Quebec.
Asked why the subsidy program ignores large amounts of discounted interruptible power used by New Brunswick mills in making comparisons between provinces, Brown said regulations governing the program require a comparison of firm prices only.
"The New Brunswick average rate is based on NB Power's published large industrial rate for firm energy, as required by the Electricity from Renewable Resources regulation," he wrote.
The subsidy program itself was imposed on NB Power by the province in 2012 to aid companies suffering after years of poor markets for forest products following the 2008 financial collapse and recession.
Providing subsidies has cost NB Power $100 million so far and has continued even as markets for pulp products improved significantly and NB Power's own finances worsened.
Report warned against subsidies
NB Power has never directly criticized the program, but in a matter currently in front the of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board looking at how NB Power might restructure its rates, an independent consultant hired by the utility suggested rate subsidies to large export oriented manufacturing facilities, like pulp and paper mills, is generally a poor idea.
"We do not recommend offering subsidies to exporters," says the report by Christensen Associates Energy Consulting of Madison, Wis.
Bruce
Chapman is with Christensen Associates in Madison, Wis. and is one of
two authors of a support that recommended against NB Power providing
rate subsidies to industrial exporters. (Christensen Associates)
"There are two serious economic problems with subsidizing exports. The first is that the benefits may be less than the costs. The second problem is that subsidies tend to last forever, even if the circumstances that initially justified the subsidies have disappeared."
The Christensen report did not directly assess the merits of the current subsidy for pulp and paper mills but it addressed the issue because it said in the design of new rates "one NB Power business customer has raised the possibility that their electricity-intensive business ought to be granted subsidies because of the potential to generate extra benefits for the Province through increases in their exports"
That, said Christensen, rarely benefits the public.
"The direct costs of the subsidies are the subsidies themselves, a part of which ends up in the pockets of out-of-province consumers of the exported goods," said the report.
"But there are also indirect costs due to the fact that the subsidies are financed through higher electricity prices, which means that other electricity customers have less money to spend on services provided by local businesses, thus putting a drag on the local economy."
The province does not agree.
Asked whether it has any studies or cost-benefit reviews that show the subsidy program is a net benefit to New Brunswick, the department cited none but maintained it is an important initiative.
"The program was designed to give large industrial businesses the ability to compete on a level energy field," wrote Brown.
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Shawn Tabor
Again
and again, here in little NB the place to be, we make folks Rich on the
back of taxpayers. That’s all I have to say about that. LoL
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Bruce Chapman
Vice President
Christensen Associates
MA, University of Wisconsin–Madison
800 University Bay Dr., Suite 400
Madison, WI 53705-2299
608.231.2266
info@lrca.com
Bruce Chapman specializes in the design and pricing of retail
electricity pricing products that improve the efficiency of pricing
relative to traditional rates. He also conducts utility rate
case-related assignments such as cost-of-service studies and rate
design assignments, including the evaluation of costing and pricing
methodologies. Additionally, he undertakes load research sample
design. Bruce has managed and participated in many projects,
developing such innovative products as critical-peak pricing,
real-time pricing, and fixed-bill products. In his work with
electricity pricing projects, he has led all phases of program
development: product design, implementation, and statistical
evaluation of customer response. Bruce also has supervised the design
of PC-based software that facilitates innovative retail product design
and supports rate applications via cost-of-service and rate design
models.
Bruce Chapman
Vice President
Christensen Associates
MA, University of Wisconsin–Madison
800 University Bay Dr., Suite 400
Madison, WI 53705-2299
608.231.2266
info@lrca.com
Bruce Chapman specializes in the design and pricing of retail
electricity pricing products that improve the efficiency of pricing
relative to traditional rates. He also conducts utility rate
case-related assignments such as cost-of-service studies and rate
design assignments, including the evaluation of costing and pricing
methodologies. Additionally, he undertakes load research sample
design. Bruce has managed and participated in many projects,
developing such innovative products as critical-peak pricing,
real-time pricing, and fixed-bill products. In his work with
electricity pricing projects, he has led all phases of program
development: product design, implementation, and statistical
evaluation of customer response. Bruce also has supervised the design
of PC-based software that facilitates innovative retail product design
and supports rate applications via cost-of-service and rate design
models.
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From: "Russell, Stephen" <SRussell@nbpower.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 14:22:35 +0000
Subject: RE: Report Outline Slides
To: "Bourbonnais, Cecile" <Cecile.Bourbonnais@brattle.
Dave" <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, "louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.
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To Brattle and stakeholder session participants
The following comment was provided by Bruce Chapman who is
participating remotely:
“You might pass on a query to Ahmad about his slides that I’m sure he
has covered. He spoke yesterday about differences in price
responsiveness of customers, citing small business customers as the
least responsive. Yet I didn’t see rate class identification in his
presentation at slide 18. It might be useful for his report if he
were to characterize the rows by type of customer. ( I suspect that
these are mostly residential in the table, though.) That might guide
the Board in reviewing NB Power’s innovative rate design plans by
giving the utility the opportunity to focus its pilots on the customer
classes that it views as most price responsive.”
Stephen
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Methinks its interesting that months after Trudeau the Younger and Katie Telford's buddy Jesse Moeinifar CEO of Viafoura killed my IDs in CBC folks still using my expressions N'esy Pas Mr Tibbs?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-electricity-loss-1.6104398
Natural and man-made troubles push NB Power finances further off course
'We need to do better,' utility CFO says of sixth straight year of weak financial results
"We need to ensure we're looking at any and all options," Darren Murphy said about fixes required for NB Power's finances after it posted a $4 million loss in the fiscal year ended on March 31.
It's the second straight year of negative earnings for the utility and sixth year in a row it has failed to reach budgeted profit targets, a result NB Power president Keith Cronkhite is not glossing over.
"We are very disappointed with these negative financial results," he said in a statement released alongside the company's annual report.
In his own terse statement, Mike Holland, the New Brunswick natural resources and energy development minister, said he too is displeased.
"NB Power's year-end results are disappointing," said the statement.
"There is an ongoing issue that needs to be addressed."
NB Power has been under intense pressure to lower its debt level in advance of undertaking a multiple-billion-dollar refurbishment of its Mactaquac hydro electric generating station but has made almost no progress toward that goal in recent years.
A plan to cut its debt $750 million, to $4.16 billion, between 2015 and 2021 has fallen apart completely with its debt rising $14 million in those years instead, to $4.929 billion, including a $9 million increase in the most recent year.
NB
Power vice-president Darren Murphy says the utility needs to look at
any and all options available to break the cycle of poor financial
performance. (CBC)
"We need to do better," said Murphy.
"We need to step back and make sure we're considering all options to achieve that objective because the objective is quickly closing in on us."
NB Power was hit by a series of expensive natural and man-made problems during the last year, the worst of which was a dead-of-winter breakdown of the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station that knocked the plant offline for 40 days in the peak consumption months of January and February.
The
Point Lepreau nuclear plant is NB Power's most important generating
station, but a series of breakdowns at the plant last winter brought
down the utility's revenues. (Submitted by NB Power)
Buying and generating replacement electricity for the idle nuclear plant cost $65 million.
Low water levels in New Brunswick rivers during a scorching 2020 summer was another blow, slashing expected production by NB Power's network of hydroelectric dams that eventually cost it up to $9 million.
In addition the COVID-19 pandemic cut overall demand for power and reduced sales by a further $19 million.
In the middle of those troubles, the Progressive Conservative government, which has been pushing the utility to reduce debt, encouraged a plan to delay the implementation of a 1.8 per cent rate increase from April 2020 to March 2021 that had been applied for from the Energy and Utilities Board.
That moved the rate hike from hitting consumers before the September 2020 provincial election until after, a delay that cost NB Power $27 million in revenue. The utility and the province both said it was NB Power's idea and done for economic, not political reasons.
The government has expressed ongoing concern about NB Power's debt and nearly two years ago instructed the utility to make paying it down by up to $500 million by 2027 a top priority.
Premier
Blaine Higgs called out NB Power during his last state of the province
address, saying he'd asked the utility to develop a plan to reduce its
unacceptable debt level without impacting rates. (CBC)
"This target should come first and foremost in utility planning," Holland wrote in a mandate letter to NB Power in November 2019.
Two months later, in January 2020, Premier Blaine Higgs reinforced that directive during his televised state of the province address.
"I have asked NB Power to immediately develop a plan to reduce their unacceptable debt level without impacting rates," he said.
Since then, however, the utility has posted back-to-back losses, and Murphy said plans to pay down debt gradually over time have not been working and another approach may be needed.
"We've been on a path of trying to achieve these through incremental rate increases and subsequent cost reductions and we just haven't made the progress we'd like to make," he said.
Holland said he expects a workable plan to reduce debt soon.
"I'm not prepared to wait any longer," he said.
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Kyle Woodman
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. Welcome to the circus. Maybe we should look at how industrial subsidies are structured. The taxpayer is getting fleeced by these high paid insiders.
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. Welcome to the circus. Maybe we should look at how industrial subsidies are structured. The taxpayer is getting fleeced by these high paid insiders.
.Justin Gunther
What
about smart meters? Did we end up buying smart meters? They wanted
smart meters because smart meters double as sophisticated tracking
devices. And the information harvested can then be sold to interested
third parties for various reasons that include product creation, service
creation, advertising campaigns, political campaigns, you name it! And
it's all based on piles of aggregated data being parsed by custom
algorithms.
That's why somebody wants to know that you run your coffee maker once in
the morning, once in the evening, and at precisely what times. But it's
a good thing because you'll wind up being exploited in hard to describe
ways and NB Power won't be SO much in debt.
It's a very good thing :-|
It's a very good thing :-|
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BTW the very first dude to comment wrote "quelle surprise" but the nasty little CBC minions deleted his words before I could record who it was
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NB Power's missed financial targets are longstanding issue, says Liberal leader
Auditor general says utility failed to meet targets 'year after year'
CBC News · Posted: Feb 25, 2021 11:07 AM AT
In her report released this week, Auditor General Kim Adair-Macpherson said the utility failed to meet financial targets "year after year." (CBC News file photo)
Interim Liberal Leader Roger Melanson says from his own experience in cabinet, he knows issues the New Brunswick auditor general raised about NB Power in her latest report are longstanding.
Melanson, a former finance minister, said that during his time in government it was sometimes difficult to deal with the Crown corporation.
"t was probably one of the most frustrating pieces, where on a yearly basis, when NB Power actually submitted their forecasts in terms of net income contribution to the provincial government, which impacts the provincial yearly budget," said Melanson, who held a variety of cabinet posts in the Brian Gallant government.
"They were never on target. They were always behind."
The auditor general's report was the topic of this week's New Brunswick Political Panel podcast, with a focus on what the report said about NB Power.
In her report, released on Tuesday, Auditor General Kim Adair-Macpherson said the utility failed to meet financial targets "year after year."
She said debt reduction is "not a top priority" for the utility and its liabilities constitute "the largest contingent risk to the province."
Melanson said the government needs to be serious about getting NB Power to focus on their financial situation.
The
opposition parties respond to the Auditor General's report on this
week's political panel. A report that raises questions about how tax
dollars are being spent, and how much oversight and accountability there
is. Interim leader for the Liberals Roger Melanson, David Coon for the
Green Party, and Kris Austin for the People's Alliance Party. 37:41
Green Party Leader David Coon said the legislature's public accounts committee holds some responsibility for keeping the utility in check, but the Energy Act should be amended to give the Energy and Utilities Board the authority to approve the utility's 10-year plans and not just rate increases.
"Without that, you know, they've got one arm tied behind their back and you're not getting the accountability necessary," said Coon.
Adair-Macpherson questioned the business sense of keeping New Brunswick's electricity rates some of the lowest in Atlantic Canada.
Green Party Leader David Coon, Liberal Leader Roger Melanson, and People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin responded to the auditor general's report on this week's political panel. (CBC)
"While maintaining a consistently low annual rate may be advantageous to NB Power consumers, it is likely contributing to its failure to meet the debt to equity target and ever-increasing debt level," said Adair-Macpherson.
Coon said the province should look at amending the Energy Act to deal with industry rates.
"Right now [the act allows] NB Power … to deliver power for less than their cost to heavy industry. So they're losing on revenues there," said Coon.
People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said he believes the utility would benefit from narrowing its focus to providing electricity to customers.
"I've seen lately that NB Power seems to be branching out into other areas, such as, you know, investment in research and development, which I understand there has to be a certain element of," said Austin.
"You go back to, you know, things like Joi Scientific, where you see money literally just, you know, thrown down the drain here for these whimsical ideas."
The Progressive Conservatives were unable to provide someone to take part in the panel this week.
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David Amos
Trust
that ll the political party leaders are very well aware of how I have
been arguing with the lawyers within the EUB about the auditing of NB
Power beginning with the the 357 Matter entitled "NB Power Rate Design"
which was shut down during the last election for no ethical reason
whatsoever.Ted
Robertson
Reply to @David Amos: So what exactly are you getting at David ? I am lost..
Roger
Williams
Reply to @David Amos: What is the 357 matter? Please explain further.
Johnny
Jakobs
Reply to @David Amos: knowledge is power. Fill us in.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Williams: Look it up most of it it is a matter of public record within
the EUB excepting the secret meetings I attended under Chatham House
Rules FYI the matter ended for no ethical reason whatsoever during the
last election after I had disputed a very questionable "Strawman Report"
created by a Yankee consultant for the benefit of Not So Smart Meters David Amos
Reply to @Ted
Robertson: Methinks the first question folks should ask your hero Higgy
and all the other party leaders is why I was illegally barred from
parliamentary properties since 2004 and why they ignored my lawsuit
about that fact since 2015 N'esy Pas?Johnny
Jakobs
Reply to @David Amos: why were you barred? None of my hereos will answer me back.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny
Jakobs: Read my lawsuit in Federal Court File NO T-1557-15 or at least
scroll to the bottom to find my contact number then give me a call FYI
the same number can be found within the EUB's public records
Gracie Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Stay off the phone Papa
David Amos
Reply to @Ted
Robertson: All the party leaders now why Roger Richard, Gerald Bourque
and I ran in the 2018 Provincial Election while intervening in NB Power
matters within the EUB 3 years after Premier Gallant's lawyers answered
my lawsuit in Federal Court Gracie Amos
Reply to @Ted Robertson: He needs to take his pills and sleep it off.
David Amos
Reply to @Gracie Amos: Methinks I should call the RCMP again N'esy Pas? Gracie Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Maybe I’ll call my new boyfriend Andre again Messy Pants?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Ted Robertson: New here i see. Hes a schizo prenic
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: They laughed you out of the room. Nesy Pas? The transcript was top notch humor
Max Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Better hide Scooter 2021 from Gracie’s new boyfriend Andre. He might end up on a plate.
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Max Amos: He’s only HALF Filipino you derpus.
Max Amos
Reply to @Gracie Amos: You say that like it’s news to me. I hooked up with him before you did. Remember?
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Max Amos: Don’t freakin keep reminding me!
Billy
Buckner
Mr.
Amos, Tony, or whatever name you are going by today, the gov't spends
ZERO amount of its time thinking about anything you are doing. The rest
of us, even less, well except while having fun with you on these boards
which is the about the only place you have not been barred from, at
least not permanently yet.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Billy Buckner: Perfect David Amos
Reply to @Billy
Buckner: I don't pretend to be Tony or anyone else. What would be the
point? However it is interesting that he has fooled so many people by
simply using my expressions. Methinks Higgy et al know that I only use
my real name The real question is are you using yours as per the rules
of this forum??? We all know little Ray aka Hamish is not N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Billy
Buckner: BTW Tony and Little Ray cannot deny that they had fun the last
time my children's name were used against me Correct?
Dea Vu Anyone?
COVID-19 roundup: 1 new case in N.B. as Edmundston enters orange recovery phase
7 workers at Edmundston Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19
CBC News · Posted: Dec 12, 2020 11:58 AM AT
Dea Vu Anyone?
COVID-19 roundup: 1 new case in N.B. as Edmundston enters orange recovery phase
7 workers at Edmundston Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19
CBC News · Posted: Dec 12, 2020 11:58 AM AT
Gracie Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Papa chill. I mean it. Or you won’t get your belated Christmas present when the borders properly open.
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Max Amos
Reply to @Gracie
Amos: As broke as you perpetually are, and given the fact that Mr
Meneses has no money to send you from Seattle what could you possibly be
getting him?
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Max Amos: A real nice steamer.
Max Amos
Reply to @Gracie Amos: Cleveland?
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Max Amos: Oh you know it. Papa’s favorite.
Max Amos
Reply to @Gracie Amos: Nice. I gave him one of those several years ago. He absolutely loved it to death.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Always a great time. Whats a Hamish? A sandwich?
Max Amos
Reply to @Gracie Amos: He’s actually supposed to have a rusty trombone for me the next time we see each other.
https://twitter.com/DavidRaymondAm1/with_replies
Methinks the plot has thickened within this tragicomedy unfolding within Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
The RCMP know the CBC deleted many libelous comments yet did nothing at all Hence the Crown will be sued AGAIN
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/12/cbc-deleted-many-libelous-comments-this.html
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2021/02/did-david-amos-get-another-account-or.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/newbrunswickcanada/comments/k31zid/david_amos/
David Amos
Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it.
It doesn't appear in any feeds, and anyone with a direct link to it will see a message like this one.
Methinks
its comical to see the Evil Trolls make their malice "POOF" when I
contact the RCMP and the FBI However the for got that I save everything
N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Did David Amos get another account, or did his old one get banned?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/four-new-cases-covid-19-new-brunswick-1.5820677
Look in the comments for Tony Mcalbey.
Hopefully he isn't inspiring more nutjobs lol.
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Methinks ethical people folks should review what was really said by mean old me and my noname political foes warts and all Everybody and his dog now I am not Tony Baby N'esy Pas?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/nb-covid-19-roundup-fredericton-rolled.html
Only a nomind no name chickens**t would pretend to be me CORRECT JOHN GREEN???
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Methinks you know as well as I that the RCMP know you just proved my point again in Spades while stealing my name again N'esy Pas pervert???
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Not even Johnny “Never Been Good” Green is that dumb. Everybody and his dog knows that I ALWAYS post in my name unlike you shills who steal my name and work for reasons I will never understand.
YOU
are most likely the whacko from Seattle who has been threatening my
daughter. Rest assured I have many friends in your neck of the woods who
ride Harleys and don’t take kindly to fake gang members N’est Pas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qbIw6E3iTw&t=204s
THE CAPITOL CHAOS WAS A KINDERGARTEN RIOT..QUIT BEING SKARED OF LOW IQ REDNECKS 😆
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Well one Troll using my name came and went like the chickenshit he truly is EH?
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yeah he's an odd one isn't he? Ahh well, seems harmless and I hope he remains that way.
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I believe the catchphrase was first used to mock someone who said "n'est-ce pas?"
What a jerk.
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Cringey seems to be a prereq for cbc comment sections.
Makes reddit look like the height of discourse.
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Half that comment section needs a ban. It's basically just the same 8 angry old people yelling at each other. Surely other than David no one is actually using their real names...
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Nope, david just posted. I thought the same thing too that the CBC NB comment section was waaayyy too quiet lately.
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I did not know the name, but I immediately knew the commenter you were posting about LOL
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That comment section is a garbage fire. I was pretty active in it about 8 or 9 years ago. It has gotten so much worse during that time.
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Comment sections seem to bring out the worst of the right-winged thinking. I swear if you only read comment sections you would think PANB was winning elections in landslides.
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I enjoy having a laugh at the nutters in the comment sections, heck, it’s fun to egg them on.
That Amos guy is such clutter, it’s not even worth reading.
CBC already limits comments on 90% of the topics, I have no idea how the guy can turn a comment section about puff pieces into some conspiracy theory about MLA’s ignoring him.
His election campaign was hilarious.
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Terry Tibbs
Can somebody explain to me why the vaccine information from Pfizer is secret and not to be discussed?
Randy McNally
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: government in control to much, all we’re told is it’s safe and get it.
What about people who are flying in for christmas from this point on? They won't have enough time to self isolate.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Randy McNally:
What about them?
They either pay attention and follow the rules, or they break the law, and hopefully they get charged.
What about them?
They either pay attention and follow the rules, or they break the law, and hopefully they get charged.
David Amos
Methinks the plot has thickened within this tragicomedy unfolding within Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Nope. Same as always
Barry Winters
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks the only thing to thicken here would be the bootmarks on our
fierce unethical animal yessy plants?
Byron
Prior
Reply to @Barry Winters: I’d just like to thank the Radar Group for having my back here. I truly appreciate it.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @David Amos: Higgy hopefully shows up to answer questions he dodged last week
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Byron
Prior: Byron, can you tell me who did all those posts during the night? I
see most of them are gone this morning. Thanks.
David Amos
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Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: So daddy is a bean counter. Whom you go after, and sis is a lawyer? You are special
Max Amos
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Reply to @David Amos:
I’m glad Granny Nickerson is doing well still. Everyone and his dog
knows I’m named after both my grandads but there’s also a step-grandad
that Papa is alluding to here.
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Max Amos: Granny Nickerson loves me more than Dad does that’s for sure.
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: And my uncle Scott who is his brother owns a Kia dealership in Fredericton also.
Ray Oliver
Content deactivated Reply to @David Amos: you were upper echelon govt royalty. When did it comes off the rails messy paws?
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
I can answer that. Two things. Uncle Brian swimming while drunk on
booze which dad gave him and he drowned, and having my older sister. He
was also in tax trouble big time so he closed his shop and ditched his
ex and my sister and moved to the states where he met my mom
Max Amos
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Reply to @Gracie Amos: Wait. Dad told me Uncle Dale was drinking with Brian that day.
Max Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Just like he accidentally touched Grace that one time. He’s a bigger
spin doctor than the ones he complains about.
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Max Amos:
He’s also at least as dishonest as the people he complains about. His
record speaks for itself in that regard.
Ray Oliver
Content deactivated Reply to @Gracie Amos: but he's sued more people than anyone in human history. He's an "ethical animal"!!!
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: So ethical that he owes my mom never received one dime in child support for me or Max.
Gracie Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Sorry for the garbled speech. I’m on the nod at the moment. What I mean
is he never sent mom any support for us ever.
Ray Oliver
Content deactivated Reply to @Gracie Amos: so what about the elusive Medicare card? Methinks there's more than meets the eye Gracie
Max Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: He never stays in one province long enough to get it back since he’s been back in Canada.
Max Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: He conveniently forgets to mention that to his audience
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @Max Amos: cross country tour of asylums
Max Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: That and people he’s trying to mooch off of
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @Max Amos: Ethical Stress tested Animal. A legend in his own mind
Carlson MacKenzie
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: He's got the multiple accounts deal running pretty smooth.
Ferdinand Boudreau
That good news looks like we are back on track-- just need to get Edmundston to yellow again before Christmas.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Ferdinand Boudreau: most will do as they please, these colours are getting old and meaningless
Tony Mcalbey
Public health shouldn’t be deciding the economics of the province and Higgy needs to say no to public health at times.
Lisa Duguay McCarthy
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: I agree with you
Winston Gray
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: business and capitalism shouldn’t have a say in public health matters
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Actually the other way around, public health should be able to
overrule politicians that are more concerned with votes that public
health and safety
Bob Smith
Reply to @Tony
Mcalbey: Places where politics and economics overruled public health
have fared poorly during the pandemic. It's a long list...
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Bob Smith: are you sure? I’m pretty sure the USA stocks are hitting record highs
Mary Smith
Reply
to @Tony Mcalbey: Stock Markets =/= good news for individuals. Only a
small percentage of people hold stock. The Stock Market will continue
to do better and better as the giant corporations continue to gain
market share of everything and continues to be the winners in the
winner-take-all market of today. When all the jobs are replaced by
robots stocks will soar. Just because Stock Markets are high does not
mean individuals are doing well. It's the opposite: Stock Markets will
soar when automation kicks into full gear, seeing a tsunami of job loss
in it's wake and leaving the masses unemployed, because the Stock Market
doesn't care about individuals, only the pursuit of profits above all
else
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @Mary Smith: Exactly.
James Jones
Round N Round we go.
Reminds me of playing red light green light during gym class at school.
I'm sure all the politicians are vaccinated by now so the roll out to
health care workers and nursing home folk should be ongoing as we speak
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @James
Jones: hopefully the outbreak in Edmundston is indeed an outbreak, top
doc declared an outbreak not long ago which ended up being only 1 case
!!!!
Michael Collins
Reply to @James Jones: Since the first vaccine won't arrive in Canada until Monday your claim is baseless.
SarahRose Werner
Sounds like the new
case is someone who was working in Fort McMurray and flew back to NB for
the holidays. That means they should already have been in isolation -
including in isolation from their family - when their test came back
positive.
Tony Mcalbey
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: is that the rule ? If so what is the talk about the Edmundston
travel index cases spreading to the health workers ? Seems to be a
common issue of health employees not following the rules others are
expected to.
Lisa Duguay McCarthy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: first case emlpoyee from super store sound
SarahRose Werner
Hopefully Saint John
is the "hot spot" in the sense that a cooling lava flow is still hot for
some time after the eruption is definitely over. :-)
Emery
Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmm . . . Sounds very warm for pandemic talk.
Phil Collins
Reply to @Emery
Hyslop-Margison: Sarah Rose has been blowing enough hot air during the
pandemic to heat most of the Southwest portion of New Brunswick!
David Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Methinks you and your buddies would not be having so much fun
with this nonsense if YOUR Mother was locked down in Shannex in Saint
John like mine is right now N'esy Pas? David Amos
Reply to @Phil Collins: I concur
David Amos
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Methinks you should wonder why my reply to the Yankee lady's joke went "Poof' N'esy Pas?
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: methinks everybody knows why it went poof except for you
https://twitter.com/DavidRaymondAm1/with_replies
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"Content deactivated" TWICE ??? METHINKS I MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR THE HAT TRICK N'ESY PAS?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2021/02/nb-power-management-at-fault-for-missed.html
#Corruption
NB Power management at fault for missed debt targets, says auditor general
Debt reduction is "not a priority" at Crown corporation, said Kim Adair-Macpherson
· CBC News · Posted: Feb 23, 2021 5:07 PM AT
Auditor General Kim MacPherson says NB Power failed to meet financial
targets "year after year" by engaging in "optimistic" and "inaccurate
forecasting" of utility expenses. (Michel Corriveau/Radi
Wishful thinking and poor forecasting have led NB Power to consistently miss profit and debt reduction targets in recent years with major new expenditures on the horizon, according to an unflattering assessment of the utility's financial management by New Brunswick Auditor General Kim Adair-MacPherson.
"It is ultimately management's decision to reduce debt," said Adair-MacPherson, in a 65-page review of the utility she presented to MLAs on Tuesday.
NB Power ended the 2020 fiscal year with $4.9 billion in net debt, about $700 million higher than targets set for it by the Legislature in 2013. That's a concern, according to the auditor general, because the province guarantees what NB Power owes and significant new spending requirements are approaching.
"It's the largest contingent risk to the province," she told MLAs, about NB Power's liabilities.
Debt reduction, her report said, is "not a top priority" of utility management, who she said failed to meet financial targets "year after year" by engaging in "optimistic" and "inaccurate forecasting" of utility expenses.
The report notes how in 2016 the utility projected $549 million in profits for itself over the following four years in its planning but managed to achieve actual profits over the period of just $54 million, less than 10 per cent of what it had suggested.
Damaging storms, spotty performance by the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station, low hydro production during dry summers and other problems have all taken turns upsetting the utility's financial plans, but Adair-MacPherson said those risks need to be better accounted for in corporate planning.
An ice storm that hit the Acadian Peninsula in 2017 downed dozens of power lines and cost NB Power a record-setting $30 million in cleanup expenses. (Jerome Luc Paulin/Twitter)
She also expressed concern about whether the utility will be able to significantly improve its finances before 2027, when up to $4 billion in major expenditures will be needed for a rebuild of the Mactaquac Dam and other projects.
"NB Power does not have a definitive plan to do this," she wrote about the need for significant short term debt reduction.
Although NB Power charges some of the lowest rates for electricity in Atlantic Canada, Adair-MacPherson questioned whether that makes business sense given its financial position.
"While maintaining a consistently low annual rate may be advantageous to NB Power consumers, it is likely contributing to its failure to meet the debt to equity target and ever-increasing debt level," she said.
Adair-MacPherson's report comes as NB Power is coping with yet another major unbudgeted cost, the unexpected breakdown of the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station last month.
The Point Lepreau nuclear generating station appeared to
have its reliability issues resolved in the last two years, until the
utility had a surprise problem with its turbines in January. (Submitted by NB Power)
Turbine problems forced a shutdown of the plant in mid January and more than a month later it remains offline at an approximate cost to the utility of $1 million per day.
In its response to the report, NB Power defended its forecasting practices and expressed confidence it will get its debt level down to the required 80 per cent level by 2027. However, it also promised to do better budgeting for trouble.
"NB Power agrees to evaluate additional means to quantify the impact of significant future cost uncertainties outside management's control and to include this information in its planning process," said the utility's response.
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Ted Robertson
Rates are extremely low in NB and smart meters will help the bottom line. David Amos
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PURE D BULLSHIT
David Amos
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David Amos
Methinks
folks who truly care should ask their MLA if they know why that during
the time of Higgy's snap election last summer and just before he left
his post the NB Power CEO Thomas asked the EUB to make their COVID
delayed decisions about rate hikes and the "Not So Smart" Meters and
then end the long delayed 357 Matter entitled "NB Power Rate Design" for
no reason whatsoever N'esy Pas? David Amos
Deja Vu Anyone??
Industry big winner in NB Power sale
CBC News · Posted: Nov 05, 2009 8:31 PM AT
"New Brunswick industry would get about $200 million more than residents during the first five years of the proposed deal between NB Power and Hydro-Québec, CBC has learned.
The province's Liberal government has repeatedly asserted that the deal would benefit big business and ordinary ratepayers equally.
Now the province's auditor general has weighed in on the issue, calling on the government to provide more information.
"I would hope the government would provide as much information as they can about what the financial impact of the transaction is going to be and also provide some clear information about what the impact on rates is going to be after Year 5," Mike Ferguson said Thursday.
Under the proposed deal, Hydro-Québec would take over most of New Brunswick's generating stations for $4.8 billion, which represents the equivalent of NB Power's debt, Premier Shawn Graham has said."
Industry big winner in NB Power sale
CBC News · Posted: Nov 05, 2009 8:31 PM AT
"New Brunswick industry would get about $200 million more than residents during the first five years of the proposed deal between NB Power and Hydro-Québec, CBC has learned.
The province's Liberal government has repeatedly asserted that the deal would benefit big business and ordinary ratepayers equally.
Now the province's auditor general has weighed in on the issue, calling on the government to provide more information.
"I would hope the government would provide as much information as they can about what the financial impact of the transaction is going to be and also provide some clear information about what the impact on rates is going to be after Year 5," Mike Ferguson said Thursday.
Under the proposed deal, Hydro-Québec would take over most of New Brunswick's generating stations for $4.8 billion, which represents the equivalent of NB Power's debt, Premier Shawn Graham has said."
David Amos
Methinks Mr Jones should agree that Big Industry always does well when dealing with NB Power Nesy Pas?
NB Power first full rate hearing gets questions about big paper mills
The utility has applied for a two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jun 15, 2015 9:43 PM AT
Multi million dollar subsidies NB Power is forced to provide the province's big paper mills took centre stage at the utility's rate hearing Monday with a retired NB Power engineer criticizing the practice as thinly veiled corporate welfare.
"I'd like to understand the program and I would like all the documentation that's available on the program that will explain it to people," said Gregory Hickey as he questioned a panel of NB Power executives about the practice of buying renewable energy from paper mills and reselling it back to them at a substantial loss.
"I think the people of this province deserve to know,"
NB Power is in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board for its first full rate hearing, where all of its operations are open to scruitny, since 1993.
The utility has applied for a modest two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1, but for the first time in 22 years the application requires full disclosure and that is subjecting the utility to some tough questioning.
Hickey registered to participate as a concerned citizen and was given wide latitude by EUB Chairman Ray Gorman to ask NB Power any questions he had, with the same standing as the corporate lawyer for Enbridge who went before him and the corporate lawyer for JD Irving who came after.
Hickey made the most of his chance.
NB Power first full rate hearing gets questions about big paper mills
The utility has applied for a two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jun 15, 2015 9:43 PM AT
Multi million dollar subsidies NB Power is forced to provide the province's big paper mills took centre stage at the utility's rate hearing Monday with a retired NB Power engineer criticizing the practice as thinly veiled corporate welfare.
"I'd like to understand the program and I would like all the documentation that's available on the program that will explain it to people," said Gregory Hickey as he questioned a panel of NB Power executives about the practice of buying renewable energy from paper mills and reselling it back to them at a substantial loss.
"I think the people of this province deserve to know,"
NB Power is in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board for its first full rate hearing, where all of its operations are open to scruitny, since 1993.
The utility has applied for a modest two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1, but for the first time in 22 years the application requires full disclosure and that is subjecting the utility to some tough questioning.
Hickey registered to participate as a concerned citizen and was given wide latitude by EUB Chairman Ray Gorman to ask NB Power any questions he had, with the same standing as the corporate lawyer for Enbridge who went before him and the corporate lawyer for JD Irving who came after.
Hickey made the most of his chance.
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: continued
I think the people of this province deserve to know.
- Gregory Hickey
He was especially curious about NB Power's Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program which was unveiled by the Alward government in 2011.
It requires NB Power to buy renewable electricity generated by paper mills at a high price - mostly hydro and biomass - and then sell it back to the companies at a low price to help bring their power costs down.
NB Power says in the first 27 months of the program it bought 858.9 thousand megawatt hours (mwh) of electricity from the mills for $81.6 million and then sold it back to the mills at $57.2 million.
NB Power lost $24.2 million on those transactions and Hickey told the hearing if the utility is rich enough to subsidize industry, it should be denied a rate increase.
Forestry company JD Irving Ltd. is one of the biggest users of the program and its lawyer at the hearing Gary Lawson tried to argue the $95 per mw/h mills are paid for power is the going rate - and a fair price - for renewable energy.
But NB Power has already disclosed in the hearing it only pays $84 for wind energy and NB Power's director of strategic planning and regulatory affairs, Neil Larlee, hinted current renewable prices are much lower than that.
"The price has actually come down in the last couple of years," said Larlee.
I think the people of this province deserve to know.
- Gregory Hickey
He was especially curious about NB Power's Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program which was unveiled by the Alward government in 2011.
It requires NB Power to buy renewable electricity generated by paper mills at a high price - mostly hydro and biomass - and then sell it back to the companies at a low price to help bring their power costs down.
NB Power says in the first 27 months of the program it bought 858.9 thousand megawatt hours (mwh) of electricity from the mills for $81.6 million and then sold it back to the mills at $57.2 million.
NB Power lost $24.2 million on those transactions and Hickey told the hearing if the utility is rich enough to subsidize industry, it should be denied a rate increase.
Forestry company JD Irving Ltd. is one of the biggest users of the program and its lawyer at the hearing Gary Lawson tried to argue the $95 per mw/h mills are paid for power is the going rate - and a fair price - for renewable energy.
But NB Power has already disclosed in the hearing it only pays $84 for wind energy and NB Power's director of strategic planning and regulatory affairs, Neil Larlee, hinted current renewable prices are much lower than that.
"The price has actually come down in the last couple of years," said Larlee.
Joe
Rootliek
Reply to @David Amos: Where are you getting your facts. Is this true?Ted Robertson
Reply to @Joe
Rootliek: Methinks anyone can check my work and that of my friend Roger
Richard dealing with NB Power within the EUB over the years. Mr Jones
should at least admit that even though not all of our words are duly
recorded in matters of public record a lot still exists N'esy Pas?
Opting out smart meter program could cost NB Power customers
Power customers in British Columbia, Quebec have faced fees for refusing the installation of smart meters
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 10, 2018 8:00 AM AT
"Smart meter opponent Roger Richard, right, leads a group worried about human health problems caused by long term exposure to the devices. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)"
Reply to @David Amos: A lot to say about nothing.
David Amos
Opting out smart meter program could cost NB Power customers
Power customers in British Columbia, Quebec have faced fees for refusing the installation of smart meters
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 10, 2018 8:00 AM AT
"Smart meter opponent Roger Richard, right, leads a group worried about human health problems caused by long term exposure to the devices. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)"
John Parker
Looks like its being managed into the ground.
David Amos
Reply to @John Parker: Methinks the Auditor General should have asked NB Power's auditors KPMG why that is long go N'esy Pas?
Greg Miller
How's
that miracle for producing energy coming down in Florida? Any more
brilliant ideas from the NB Power executive wannabees?
George Matthews
Reply to @Greg Miller: and the 100 million on smart meters that won't do anything for reducing energy usage
David Amos
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Reply to @George Matthews: Methinks Higgy, Holland and many lawyers know why I agree with your comment N'esy Pas?
Roger
Richard
NB
Power is being manage in a way where our government will have no choice
but to sell it to the Americans. It is not mismanagement it is done on
purpose. Two or three years ago we had four Americans as directors on
the NB Power Board!
George Matthews
Reply to @Roger
Richard: it was doing well profitable and then the failed bid to sell it
to quebec since then they have all of a sudden just being doing worse
and worse.
Roger
Richard
Reply to @George Matthews: It started going downhill with Point Lepreau.
Roger
Richard
Reply to @Roger Richard: With the construction and then the refurbishment of Point Lepreau..
Fred Brewer
Reply to @George
Matthews: It may have made small profits back then but it was also
carrying a $5 billion debt. Selling to HQ would have wiped that debt
out instantly.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: Amen mon ami
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/harsh-words-disallowed-expenses-greet.html
Friday, 2 October 2020
Harsh words, disallowed expenses greet NB Power in rate increase decision
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 01:50:54 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks Methinks Mr Jones
of the CBC can never claim that i am not a man of my word
N'esy Pas Petey Baby MacKay and Franky Boy McKenna ???
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:50:46 -0300
Subject: YO Higgy Methinks Methinks Mr Jones of the CBC can never
claim that i am not a man of my word N'esy Pas Petey Baby MacKay and
Franky Boy McKenna ???
To: blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, "robert.gauvin" <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>,
"Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, heather.black@gnb.ca,
SWaycott@nbpower.com, John.Lawton@nbeub.ca, Dave.Young@nbeub.ca,
mike.holland@gnb.ca, glawson@lawsoncreamer.com,
mletson@lawsoncreamer.com, david.sollows@gnb.ca, Heather.Quinn@gnb.ca,
hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com, cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com,
sstoll@airdberlis.com, ross.wetmore@gnb.ca, David Amos
<motomaniac333@gmail.com>, jeveritt@unb.ca,
trampersaud@townofriverview.ca
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Surprise Surprise Surprise
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Methinks you should review my comment earlier today about the
EUB before the truth was finally revealed N'esy Pas?
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Harsh words, disallowed expenses greet NB Power in rate increase decision
‘The utility must stop overspending,’ Energy and Utilities Board says
· CBC News · Posted: Oct 02, 2020 8:44 PM AT
NB
Power has been told by its regulator, the Energy and Utilities Board,
it is not doing enough to control costs or reduce debt. (Radio-Canada)
New Brunswick's Energy and Utilities Board has finally approved part of NB Power's year-old request for a rate increase but not before stripping out $1.4 million in expenses it called unjustified and chastising the utility for not controlling its costs.
"The utility must stop overspending on items … that are within its control," wrote the board.
"It does not appear there has been any meaningful changes taken by NB Power in its approach to control costs or reduce debt. Only modest improvements have been seen on debt repayment."
In the decision released Friday, the EUB ordered NB Power's to recalculate its rate request after subtracting disallowed portions. That will likely lead to a 1.85 per cent power rate increase to customers, although potentially not until next spring.
"With these changes, NB Power is directed to provide the Board, for review, its calculation for a revised rate increase across all customer classes," wrote the Board in its 21-page decision.
NB Power originally applied to the EUB for a two per cent rate hike one year ago on Oct. 2, 2019. It was hoping to have the increase approved and in place for April 1, 2020.
Hearings were conducted last February, but on March 19, with a ruling imminent, the utility requested an indefinite suspension of the application in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Energy and Utilities Board acting chairperson Francois
Beaulieu led a three-person panel reviewing NB Power's request for a
rate increase back in February. The decision finally came on Friday. (CBC)
"Many businesses are closed or at reduced operation for an unknown time frame and many employees of those businesses have been affected as a result," said then NB Power president Gaëtan Thomas in a letter to the EUB.
"NB Power has concluded that a rate increase implemented on April 1, 2020, would be counterproductive."
In August, NB Power finally asked the EUB to issue its decision but requested whatever increase it approved to be moved to March 31, 2021, to minimize disruption to the economy.
The EUB has not yet ruled on that request.
Although focused mostly on the current rate increase, the EUB also turned its attention to a string of poor financial results and missed debt reduction targets posted by NB Power over the last half-decade.
The utility lost $16 million in the last fiscal year, the fifth year in a row it has missed its own profit target, and the EUB called on the organization to look internally for solutions.
"NB Power must find a way to stay within its budget and reduce its costs," wrote the board.
The board did approve most of NB Power's budget request with exception of $1.1 million in inflated costs for buying electricity from the Pokeshaw wind farm in northeastern New Brunswick after NB Power negotiated lower prices than it included in its budget documents.
Maritime Iron study
The EUB also disallowed $300,000 the utility had earmarked to study the potential of integrating the proposed Maritime Iron development in Belledune with its nearby coal-fired generating station.
NB Power has since ceased its investigation of how it might help the Maritime Iron project, and the board said it heard nothing at hearings to justify the utility charging customers anything to investigate the feasibility of a development proposed by an outside party.
"This project is speculative. The Board is not satisfied as to the prudence of this spending," it wrote in its decision.
The disallowance by the EUB of $1.4 million budgeted for those two items in NB Power's budget was in addition to money NB Power itself dropped from its request early in proceedings.
At the start of hearings in February, utility executives, including new president Keith Cronkhite, declared $1.4 million in planned spending to support a hydrogen-from-seawater partnership with Florida-based Joi Scientific inappropriate to bill customers for and withdrew the amount from its budget.
Former NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas, centre, with Joi Scientific executives Robert Koeneman, left, and Traver Kennedy on a beach in Cape Canaveral, Fla., promoting the company's hydrogen-from-seawater research. NB Power's spending on that project and other items is being deducted from its rate increase. (Joi Scientific)
Those three changes combined total $2.8 million and are all to be deducted from the original two per cent increase requested by the utility.
EUB board member John Herron wrote a dissenting opinion, arguing NB Power should be able to keep the rate increase portions tied to disallowed expenses to boost its bottom line, but that position was rejected by EUB acting chairperson Francois Beaulieu and board member Michael Costello, who made up the balance of the three-person panel.
The EUB will likely rule next week on when the rate increase will take effect, after NB Power recalculates the amount without the disallowed expenses.
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David Amos
Methinks this news is likely giving Mikey Holland a headache this weekend N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Trust that this was an interesting revelation to me within the EUB's latest dubious decision.
d. Cost Control
[109] During the hearing, several parties questioned NB Power on its efforts to control its costs.
[110] Particular attention was made to the most recent mandate letter from the Minister of Natural Resources and Energy Development dated November 27, 2019, which specifically directs NB Power to achieve an equity target of at least 20% by 2027 through cost reductions and other appropriate mechanisms that will maintain low and stable rates for New Brunswickers
d. Cost Control
[109] During the hearing, several parties questioned NB Power on its efforts to control its costs.
[110] Particular attention was made to the most recent mandate letter from the Minister of Natural Resources and Energy Development dated November 27, 2019, which specifically directs NB Power to achieve an equity target of at least 20% by 2027 through cost reductions and other appropriate mechanisms that will maintain low and stable rates for New Brunswickers
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Higgy et al knew that the equity target date was 2023 and that it was
set by the Alward mandate it created the the latest Electricity Act in
2013. Everybody knew I was an Intervener in the EUB 357 Matter since
2017. It was no coincidence when the EUB ended abruptly ended the
matter not long before the last election this summer and then allowed
the smart meter nonsense to go forward during the election. This malice
practiced against our interests was done largely in secret despite all
my protests to all the lawyers and many politicians of all the parties
seeking a seat within the current mandate..
David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
June
Arnott
All expense accounts should stop. No travel expenses or executive trips. Kill all bonuses.
David Amos
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Reply to @June
Arnott: Methinks you should review my comment earlier today about the
EUB before the truth was finally revealed N'esy Pas?David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Trust that you would have liked my reply
Tim Trites
oh well welcome to the worst run jurisdiction in the western world
David Amos
Methinks over the course of the next four years it may become commonly known as Higgy's Police Sate N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Trites: Welcome back to the Circus
Methinks over the course of the next four years it may become commonly known as Higgy's Police Sate N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply
to @David Amos: Is that all you ever have ? No wonder you didn't even
bother running this time . I doubt you could get 25 signatures on your
nomination papers , let alone 25 votes .
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks before you spin doctors embarrass Higgy et al any further you
really should check my work within the EUB and Federal Court N'esy Pas?
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Lou Bell: I'll tell you what who'd get my vote if it was you or him on the ballot. It would not be lyou.
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Tim Trites:
I am sure there are thousands of other people living all over the
western world thinking they live in the worst run jurisdiction. Not
sure you have enough info to proclaim us the worst.
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thank You Kind Sir
David Amos
Reply to @Samual Johnston: So what say you of Higgy's Police State?
Tim Trites
Reply to @Samual Johnston:
i think i have plenty but i'll put the challenge out there...can you come up with a worse run one
i think i have plenty but i'll put the challenge out there...can you come up with a worse run one
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Lou Bell:
He can't get 25 signatures they tore down Tent City in Fredericton. Who
knows whose basement in what riding he's dwelling in these days
David Amos
Reply
to @Ray Oliver: Methinks if you truly don't know then you should ask
your friends in the RCMP who have been calling me N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
The white elephant in the room is the refurbishment of Mactaquac. So many reasons not to do that.
Dan
Flanagan
Reply to @Roger Richard:
Besides being the biggest power generator in NB & supplying renewable electricity, many people live down stream of Mactaquac. I don't believe letting it deteriorate is an option.
Besides being the biggest power generator in NB & supplying renewable electricity, many people live down stream of Mactaquac. I don't believe letting it deteriorate is an option.
Roger Richard
Reply to @Dan
Flanagan: I am not talking about letting it deteriorate. I am talking
about restoring the Saint John River. We can easily buy renewable
electricity from our neighbouring juridictions at a better cost than
trying to produce it ourself.
Roger Richard
Reply to @Dan
Flanagan: By the way, Mactaquac is not the biggest power generator in
NB. Actually, for most of the year it do not have enough water to
produce electricity.
David Amos
Reply to @Dan
Flanagan: Methinks Higgy et al know that we can buy all the renewable
electricity we will ever need for Quebec far cheaper than it costs to
produce our own N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: I concur as usual
Fred Brewer
Reply
to @Roger Richard: Roger, I agree with all of your points. NB Power
and NB itself cannot afford a multi-billion dollar refit of the dam
which we all know will go over budget and be delivered late. Mactaquac
is a poor asset as you pointed out. It needs to be mothballed.
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: What am I chopped liver?
ROB CLARK
Curious to see if the same parameters used to judge the viability of Cannabis NB will be applied to NB power?
David Amos
Reply to @ROB CLARK: Methinks that was a theoretical question Hence no replies N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Too Funny I would have sworn that I wrote rhetorical In fact I still do
Roger Richard
On page one of the decision, this paragraphe needs to be clarified:
"[4] Members of the public were invited to submit letters of comment by January 31, 2020. The Board received 46 letters of comment with the vast majority expressing concerns about the proposed rate increase. The Board has reviewed these letters. During the hearing, NB Power was provided with the opportunity to respond to these concerns.”
The only letter in favour of a rate increase is from the unions. Please do not get me wrong, I certainly know the importance of unions. But with a median income of $30,000 a year in NB how can we justify incomes of over $100,000?
"[4] Members of the public were invited to submit letters of comment by January 31, 2020. The Board received 46 letters of comment with the vast majority expressing concerns about the proposed rate increase. The Board has reviewed these letters. During the hearing, NB Power was provided with the opportunity to respond to these concerns.”
The only letter in favour of a rate increase is from the unions. Please do not get me wrong, I certainly know the importance of unions. But with a median income of $30,000 a year in NB how can we justify incomes of over $100,000?
Dan
Flanagan
Reply to @Roger Richard:
Your $30,000/year median income includes a lot of people who don't actually work; many working-age adults in this province are on gov't assistance. Tradesmen often make $100,000/yr but they earn it. I can easily justify the difference in compensation: one group builds our society & the other lives off it.
Your $30,000/year median income includes a lot of people who don't actually work; many working-age adults in this province are on gov't assistance. Tradesmen often make $100,000/yr but they earn it. I can easily justify the difference in compensation: one group builds our society & the other lives off it.
Roger Richard
Reply to @Dan
Flanagan: $100,000 + a year is not environmentally sustainable anymore.
The way our society is organized certainly needs to be looked into.
The gap between the lower half and the upper haft of our society is
unreal. That makes some people unable to see the financial and
environmental situation we are in.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: Methinks you can trust that I noticed a great deal more within
the aforementioned decision that are matters for a proper court to hear
someday N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Dan
Flanagan: Methinks you should trust the fact that I and legions of other
Canadian seniors get by on far less than 30 grand a year from our old
age stipend you cannot deny the fact New Brunswick has more than its
fair share of old folks living here paying taxes and using NB Power's
services to survive N'esy Pas?
Dan Flanagan
Reply to @David Amos:
Gov't pensions were never meant to be a retiree's only source of income. We all had 45 years to position ourselves to be able to live as comfortably in retirement as we did during our working years. But many squandered that opportunity thru conspicuous consumption & not saving for that rainy day. Poor planning is rarely rewarded. My father often told me a story about an ant & a grasshopper that ended " you sang all summer, you can dance all winter". If you thought the gov't would give you a good retirement, you are the grasshopper.
Gov't pensions were never meant to be a retiree's only source of income. We all had 45 years to position ourselves to be able to live as comfortably in retirement as we did during our working years. But many squandered that opportunity thru conspicuous consumption & not saving for that rainy day. Poor planning is rarely rewarded. My father often told me a story about an ant & a grasshopper that ended " you sang all summer, you can dance all winter". If you thought the gov't would give you a good retirement, you are the grasshopper.
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: Who are you to judge me without knowing my history?
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: Furthermore methinks the grasshoppers are faring better that the bees are these days N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Maybe someone can help me out here?
Why is it up to the EUB to reign these guys in?
Why is the government not fixing this disaster?
Higgy et al know that nobody should be surprised what law firm the EUB picked to stand in and assist in the cover up of smart meters and rate increase Hence they went about their malicious nonsense in secrecy and folks are only partially informed after the dirty deeds were done N'esy Pas?
Why is it up to the EUB to reign these guys in?
Why is the government not fixing this disaster?
Roger
Richard
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: The government is already overruling. NBEUB is just a commission
not independent like a Court of Law is. So unofficially, the
commission says what the government wants to hear. I believe that we a
being set-up to sell NB Power to the Americans, like it was done in Nova
Scotia.
Ben
Haroldson
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: They are just like crtc, a bunch of high paid do nothing for you hogs, Pandering to the corps.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: Methinks Higgy et al know that I Wholeheartedly Agree With You N'esy Pas Mon Ami?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: Methinks you should be delighted to know that when the
General Counsel of the EUB was appointed to be the Maritime Commissioner
of the CRTC this summer I did not hesitate to inform that lawyer and
her new cadre of cohorts of longstanding issues between the CRTC and I.
Higgy et al know that nobody should be surprised what law firm the EUB picked to stand in and assist in the cover up of smart meters and rate increase Hence they went about their malicious nonsense in secrecy and folks are only partially informed after the dirty deeds were done N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Trust that you would have enjoyed my reply
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Go Figure
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You don't and you don't write. So how can I help?David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: I meant to post "you don't call"
Roger Richard
Smart
meters are another big issue both financially and environmentally. I
wish New Brunswickers would see that and say something.
Dan Short
Reply to @Roger Richard:
NB Power has squandered public trust, Until that trust is restored, such projects will always be viewed with resistance and skepticism.
Also with all the ongoing high profile data breaches, there's other factors where trust will need to be rebuilt.
NB Power has squandered public trust, Until that trust is restored, such projects will always be viewed with resistance and skepticism.
Also with all the ongoing high profile data breaches, there's other factors where trust will need to be rebuilt.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: Me Too
David Peters
Reply to @Dan Short:
Trust has been lost for many very good reasons though. Nothing has changed either.
Trust has been lost for many very good reasons though. Nothing has changed either.
Ben Haroldson
Time
to sell the money pit. You ARE all aware that the current lepreau
shutdown upgrade is behind schedule as usual, as it provides more of
those exorbitant wages when you do it that way . High paid ($40/hr+)
workers are spending an 8 hour shift sitting outside in their cars. We
haven't heard much about Mr cronkhite, the new ceo, but it's time to
hold his feet to the fire.
Roger Richard
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: It is important to keep NB Power because we have more says
into its operations. It is an essential service in our lives.
Dan Short
Reply to @Roger Richard:
Absolutely correct,
Fix the problems, clean house and I don't just mean the CEO it the entire management team. Nothing wrong with NB Power, it's the people that is the problem.
Absolutely correct,
Fix the problems, clean house and I don't just mean the CEO it the entire management team. Nothing wrong with NB Power, it's the people that is the problem.
Fred Brewer:
Reply to @Dan Short:
The problems at NB Power have persisted throughout many changes in
management over decades and decades of mismanagement. The problem is
that NB Power is owned by government and government should not be in the
business of being in business. Sell it to private enterprise and then
watch the heads roll and this massive sinking ship called NB Power will
be re-floated and set on a course for profitability. Only private
enterprise can turn this around. The sale could be structured such that
NB gets a guaranteed monthly payment forever (indexed to inflation).
Dan Short
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Changing a CEO and his assistants, is not change. You need to change the workers who are developing policy and initiatives.
Like most companies, and governments, the boss has little impact. They broadly lay out direction and wishes. It's the departments thst do the grunt work and develop how those wishes will come to fruit.
Just read any of the city council or provincial news articles. They sell tsoinsbout hoe it is staff sent to their offices to develop a plan and bring it back for a vote.
Changing a CEO and his assistants, is not change. You need to change the workers who are developing policy and initiatives.
Like most companies, and governments, the boss has little impact. They broadly lay out direction and wishes. It's the departments thst do the grunt work and develop how those wishes will come to fruit.
Just read any of the city council or provincial news articles. They sell tsoinsbout hoe it is staff sent to their offices to develop a plan and bring it back for a vote.
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Dan Short: We've been waiting for that for HOW many years? 30....40.....50...?
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Dan Short: You need to change the systemic entitlement mentality, in other words, sell it.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Richard: C'est Vrai Mon Ami
Thanks for doing far more that your fair share in protecting our interests. Trust that the fat lady ain't sung yet on this issue. Enjoy your weekend away from this madness and take care.
Thanks for doing far more that your fair share in protecting our interests. Trust that the fat lady ain't sung yet on this issue. Enjoy your weekend away from this madness and take care.
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I concur
Dan Short
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
You don't need to sell it to clean house.
Power is an essential thing, you should always control your essential necessities.
You don't need to sell it to clean house.
Power is an essential thing, you should always control your essential necessities.
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I see that the know it all is back and this time i kinda sorta agree with him and my friend Roger
FYI in 2009 I supported the sale of NB Power to Quebec and would do so again in a heartbeat. However I would oppose its sale to any Yankees in a bigtime fashion particularly the dudes who bought Nova Scotia Power. Methinks you can trust the fact that the Yankees on NB Power's board and Higgy et al know why N'esy Pas?
FYI in 2009 I supported the sale of NB Power to Quebec and would do so again in a heartbeat. However I would oppose its sale to any Yankees in a bigtime fashion particularly the dudes who bought Nova Scotia Power. Methinks you can trust the fact that the Yankees on NB Power's board and Higgy et al know why N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @Dan Short:
Who gets to decide what's essential and what's not?
Free market solutions always do things and make things better, faster and cheaper. Always. Every single time.
Who gets to decide what's essential and what's not?
Free market solutions always do things and make things better, faster and cheaper. Always. Every single time.
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Why would a Quebec monopoly be better than an NB monopoly? Didn't Quebec turn down the deal?
I would have supported it myself if HQ would have provided NBers the same residential rates as their Quebec counterparts.
Why would a Quebec monopoly be better than an NB monopoly? Didn't Quebec turn down the deal?
I would have supported it myself if HQ would have provided NBers the same residential rates as their Quebec counterparts.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: They did offer us a fair deal
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
I don't see how the vast majority of NBers would have benefited. It also seemed that HQ was mostly interested in owning the transmission lines, to block NFLD Muscat Falls from NB access to New England energy market. It was the bad state of major NB energy generation infrastructure that scared HQ off...if I understand it right.
Dan Short
I don't see how the vast majority of NBers would have benefited. It also seemed that HQ was mostly interested in owning the transmission lines, to block NFLD Muscat Falls from NB access to New England energy market. It was the bad state of major NB energy generation infrastructure that scared HQ off...if I understand it right.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Dan Short:
"You need to change the workers who are developing policy and
initiatives." And who do you think approves those policies? What you
are appearing to suggest is get rid of ALL levels of management and that
would likely destroy any value left in NB Power. We need to sell it now
while it still might be worth 20 cents on the dollar.
Dan Short
Reply to @David Peters:
Yes they do. I also think we've seen the result of thst during the pandemic. Lots of products unavailable for months. Especially cleaning based ones.
While an open market might give me cheaper power, I like to know my power will be there when it's thriry below. That I don't have to worry about some private business deciding to sell it instead to the highest bidder.
Yes they do. I also think we've seen the result of thst during the pandemic. Lots of products unavailable for months. Especially cleaning based ones.
While an open market might give me cheaper power, I like to know my power will be there when it's thriry below. That I don't have to worry about some private business deciding to sell it instead to the highest bidder.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: You don't
David Amos
Reply to @David
Peters: Here is a simple question for you as you bear in mind that the
beancounters in Quebec are far from dumb .
How much equity do you think NB Power had in 2009?
How much equity do you think NB Power had in 2009?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Mactaquac Dam is in bad shape and needs billions to refurbish. Point Lepreau has been refurbished and is, hopefully, like brand new. But, I think the utility was something like 12 Billion in debt, if I remember right.
Seemed kind of sneaky the sweet deal for a few big local outfits with everyone else stuck with high rates, though.
Mactaquac Dam is in bad shape and needs billions to refurbish. Point Lepreau has been refurbished and is, hopefully, like brand new. But, I think the utility was something like 12 Billion in debt, if I remember right.
Seemed kind of sneaky the sweet deal for a few big local outfits with everyone else stuck with high rates, though.
David Amos
Reply to @David
Peters: Methinks its obvious that you need to study the issues some more
but you should not deny that I did try to talk to you years ago N'esy
Pas?
Lorelei
Stott
get out the broom and clean house, start at the top floor
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Lorelei
Stott: Do you ever hear any of the " stories " that come from that
place, told by the employees while they laugh about how much money they
make? And it isn't linemen I'm talking about, it's point lepreau, and
executive.
Lorelei
Stott
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: poor management is cancerous and it starts at the top, need
to clean out the top to be able to lead the change through the middle
and down to the base
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I heard more than my fair share
David Peters
Reply to @Lorelei Stott:
Start by breaking up the monopoly and allowing unsubsidized, free market solutions to handle the energy sector.
Start by breaking up the monopoly and allowing unsubsidized, free market solutions to handle the energy sector.
David Peters
Why do ppl put up with this craziness? Such an important sector run like this.
Notice how they don't mention where they meet.
Notice how they don't mention where they meet.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: FYI They meet in secret over the Internet lately
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Wonder what our transportation industry would look like if it weren't monopolized by the eub. Not surprising that they require secrecy.
Wonder what our transportation industry would look like if it weren't monopolized by the eub. Not surprising that they require secrecy.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: As my Yankee friends" used to say:
"Hard telling not knowing for sure"
"Hard telling not knowing for sure"
Fred
Brewer
Reply
to @David Peters: Mr. Peters, I have advised you several times in the
past that all EUB meetings are publicly advertised in the local
newspapers and on their website. You appear to want to ignore that so
you can imply some kind of conspiracy of secrecy and closed door
meetings. All of their meetings are open, and transcripts are
available. Please do some research if you wish not to believe what I
say.
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Not true
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Furthermore I have never seen you at ANY of the hearings I have attended and there have been MANY
David
Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Name the date/time and location of just one meeting. Covid related zoom meetings notwithstanding.
Btw, I have researched and sent an email asking this to the eub with no response.
Name the date/time and location of just one meeting. Covid related zoom meetings notwithstanding.
Btw, I have researched and sent an email asking this to the eub with no response.
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @David
Peters: Feb 20 to Feb 24, 2017 in Fredericton. That's just the first
one that I found. But you only asked for one.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Were you surprised?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: What say you try reading reading the transcripts and documents
of the 357 375 and the 430 Matters to ame but a few?
Lou Bell
Rule
1 ? Get an educated CEO who has at least some semblance of intelligence
in operating the Corporation . The last guy hadn't a clue what he was
doing !
Rule 2 Hire knowledgeable people on WHAT they know , NOT WHO they know !!!
Rule 2 Hire knowledgeable people on WHAT they know , NOT WHO they know !!!
Winston Gray
Reply to @Lou Bell:
all of what you said only works if the story you’ve made up in your head
matches reality, I’m willing to bet it does not.
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its time for your nap N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Lou Bell: Rule #1. Sell NB Power to the highest bidder. That's all we need to know.
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer:Obviously I disagree
Danny Debdee
Do
you clowns not understand how expensive it is to run an electric
utility in a rural province like NB? People wanna live in the middle of
no where, and expect no power outages, and want lowest rates in the
country. You need high skilled workers, which means good paying jobs.
Roger
Richard
Reply to @Danny
Debdee: $100,000 + is beyond a good paying job. Beside that, NB Power
is expensive to operate because of many more errors; JOY Entertainment
and smart meters come to mind as good exemples.
Danny Debdee
Reply to @Roger
Richard: NB Power tradesman/women are some of the lowest paid workers in
the industry. NB Powers executives make 10x less than a private energy
company, see what an Emera CEO or VP makes in Nova Scotia, millions of
$$$. NB is getting a home town discount from most of its employees and
paying some of the lowest rates. Maybe NB Power should quit providing
service to McAdam, Blackville, Minto and other rural towns across the
province make them move into civilization if they want power. Why do
you think SJ Energy is profitable?
David Peters
Reply to @Danny Debdee:
All those patronage positions and boondoggles...not to mention the secretive price control scheme by the eub...nothing to see here, eh?
Try getting away with all this in a real free market, where journalists actually did their jobs.
All those patronage positions and boondoggles...not to mention the secretive price control scheme by the eub...nothing to see here, eh?
Try getting away with all this in a real free market, where journalists actually did their jobs.
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Debdee: Methinks you should ask all the clowns who work in Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
Reply
to @Danny Debdee: Interesting that you should compare Emera, a private
company to NB Power. Emera is profitable yet (according to you) can pay
its executives 10 times more than NB Power executives. You have made
my case for privatization of NB Power. Thank you so much.
Danny Debdee
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: One reason they’re profitable is because they charge their
customers higher rates. Careful what you wish for....SHOOOOOT
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Debdee: Methinks you should study Quebec N'esy Pas?
Danny Debdee
Reply to @David Amos:
Quebec has all the Hydro power they could ever use at rock bottom
prices, 2 completely different situations
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Danny
Debdee: Which is exactly why if NB Power had even half a brain they
would buy some of the rock bottom priced Quebec hydro power you speak
of.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Danny
Debdee: Yes the NS rates are higher, but not a heck of a lot higher.
Look at NB Power. They carry a $5 billion debt that they have no hope
of paying off. Do you have any idea how much our power rates would have
to increase to pay off that debt? You would be begging to pay NS rates
if that ever happened.
David Amos
Reply to @Danny Debdee: Dream on
Fred Brewer
NB
Power has 1,140 employees who make in excess of $100,000 per year.
There is no justification for this and this does not include management
with their salaries of up to $500,000 per year.
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks you should consider reading my words N'esy Pas?
Danny Debdee
Reply to @Fred Brewer: 100K isn’t that great, my time is worth way more
Johnny Jakob
Reply to @Danny Debdee: says the guy from nbpower
David Amo
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Of that I have no doubt
Edward St-pierre
Reply to @Danny
Debdee: anyone who is making a hundred grand is doing okay . But it's
those who make 5 hundred grand should be looking to help with the little
guy because of what is going on today.
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:23:01 +0000
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:22:59 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
Minister Mikey Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:22:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:23:04 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:23:21 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 16:22:47 -0300
Subject: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick Minister Mikey
Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never been Good
Herron in paricular N'esy Pas???
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> From: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)" <Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 16:54:11 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks whereas there is no
> transcript available that supports the EUB decision about "Not So
> Smart" Meters folks are entitled to know what my friend Roger Richard
> before the election N'esy Pas???
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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> Merci.
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> Andrea Anderson-Mason, Q.C. / c.r.
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> From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 16:35:06 +0000
> Subject: RE: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE The Not So Smart Meter Games
> I trust that your lawyer or Ellen Desmond can explain what the EUB has
> acknowledged before I take you people to a REAL COURT
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: August 6, 2020 12:29 PM
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> Subject: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE The Not So Smart Meter Games I
> trust that your lawyer or Ellen Desmond can explain what the EUB has
> acknowledged before I take you people to a REAL COURT
>
> These are the EUB published words not mine CORRECT?
>
> These documents can be sourced from the records of the 375 Matter
>
> http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/
>
> 02/07/2018 Hearing - Day 1 / Audience - 1ier jour
>
> Page 295
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. So there is the two interveners or two
> participants in the proceeding that have no legal counsel. One is Mr.
> Richard and the other one is Mr. Bourque. So I just want to provide --
> yes, Mr. Rouse?
>
> MR. ROUSE: I guess I don't have legal counsel either.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: True. So you are -- NCFS doesn't have legal counsel?
>
> MR. ROUSE: That's correct.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So I will address the three of you then. So Mr. Bourque
> and Mr. Rouse -- I think, Mr. Rouse, you know how the proceeding
> proceeds. So Mr. Bourque, essentially when it comes and you have a
> panel, they are subject to cross-examination. And if you do have any
> questions specifically to the panel, you will be asked to come in
> front and ask your question to whomever your questions you want to ask
> to. Now if there is an objection to your questioning I would ask you
> to stop and at that point what I will do is I will hear the person
> who was objecting to your question and afterwards I will hear if you
> have any other comments to make regarding the objection and we will
> deal with those -- with the objection as it comes. So do you
> understand that?
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Yes, I do and thanks for explaining it.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you. Monsieur Richard, essentiellement
> qu’est ce qui va arriver, pis quoi je mentionnais en anglais, c’est
> que vous êtes non-représenté par un avocat donc vous – peut-être que
> vous connaissez pas toute la façon que les procédures fonctionnent.
> Donc, l’Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick a différent panel qui – qui vont
> introduire pour – pour – pour contre-interrogatoire, donc si vous avez
> des questions a demandé aux personnes, donc, vous allez poser vos
> questions à ces personnes-là. Et puis si y’a une partie qui s’objecte
> à votre question, j’vous demanderais juste d’arrêter. Et puis quoi ce
> que la Commission va faire c’est qu’elle va entendre la partie qui
> s’objecte. Et puis à ce moment-là j’vas vous demandez si vous avez
> aucun commentaire à regarder l’objection et puis on – on va – on va
> rendre une décision à ce point-là relativement à l’objection. Est-ce
> que vous comprenez ceci.
>
> DR. RICHARD: Oui. Oui, Monsieur Vice-président.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN : Pis je comprends aussi que, Monsieur Richard, que vous
> êtes un professionnel, donc durant la procédure vous serez pas ici à
> tous les jours. J’pense que vous avez autorisé un Monsieur LeBlanc de
> – d’être ici à – pour vous représenter lorsque vous serez dans votre
> clinique. Je ne sais pas où votre clinique est, donc ce que je
> comprends bien que cette personne-là va vous représentez lorsque vous
> serez pas disponible.
>
> DR. RICHARD : Oui c’est bien ça
>
> Page 322
>
> CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BOURQUE:
>
> Q. - Mr. Murphy, as Chief Financial Officer, do you agree with 13 the
> accounting of KPMG?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, do I understand the question, do I agree with the
> accounting of KPMG?
>
> Q. - Yes.
>
> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do.
>
> Q. - Do you know the account -- the KPMG auditor, and if so who are they?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, I am having a little difficult time 21 hearing up
> here, did you say the owner or the author?
>
> Q. - The auditors, sorry about that.
>
> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do. I know the primary partner on our particular audit
> file.
>
> Q. - Do you have a name for them?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Our primary audit partner is Jamie O'Neil.
>
> Q. - Jamie O'Neil. And I was a bit surprised that when I asked the
> question earlier and there was -- the audit was not signed and any
> business I have ever been involved with before, the auditors always
> came and made the presentation of the audit and this didn't appear to
> happen. Is there a reason for that?
>
> MR. MURPHY: So I am not exactly sure of the reference that's being
> made, but our audit statements are signed every year. As described, we
> have a very traditional process in terms of the auditors coming in and
> making a final presentation to the boards of directors. It's at that
> time that we do sign off on the audited statements and they are
> available online for anybody to go in and view them.
>
> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you familiar with David Amos and Greg Hickey and
> their concerns about the payout to pulp mills by the NB Power Large
> Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase programs and the fact that the
> U.S. Department of Commerce consider it corporate welfare affecting
> the American interest and with trade with Canada?
>
> MR. FUREY: Mr. Chair, we have been down this road before in previous
> hearings. Mr. Hickey addressed this in at least one, and if I am not
> mistaken, two hearings. And I
> believe where we objected to certain questions of Mr. Hickey in the
> past like this, the Board concluded that relevant questioning -- that
> it would be a relevant question to ask questions related to compliance
> by NB Power with provisions of the Electricity Act and the LIREPP
> regulation, the renewable regulation, which includes the LIREPP
> program, but debate about policy, as to whether or not LIREPP is a
> desirable policy is not a matter for this Board and I think we have
> had that resolved in previous hearings.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, Mr. Furey is right. We did have -- when
> Mr. Hickey was here last year, and I think at other hearings, we had
> that debate and so it's a policy issue. If you have questions
> regarding LIREPP, regarding compliance, I think you are permitted to
> ask those questions, but if it's questions regarding policy, regarding
> the LIREPP program, it's not relevant and it's in the legislation so
> --
>
> MR. BOURQUE: I wasn't aware of what took place last year.
>
> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you aware of my friend, David Amos and the
> concerns with the NB Power since 2006?
>
> MR. MURPHY: I would not say that I am aware of any detailed concerns
> that Mr. Amos has expressed.
>
> Q. - Have you read the filings that NB Power filed into the record of
> this matter since -- on October 30th of 2017?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Yes, generally I have read all the documents.
>
> Q. - Have you read the transcript of the hearing on October 2 31st?
>
> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the transcript.
>
> Q. - And have you read the emails that Mr. Amos sent since then?
>
> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the emails. If there is something in
> particular that's filed on evidence that you would like to bring up on
> the screen for me to review, I am happy to review it and answer
> questions on it, but I have not read the emails.
>
> Q. - Ms. Clark, why does NB Power consider the smart meter it wished
> to attach to my home a federal matter? If I get sick, or because of
> an injury to my home or property, do I sue the federal or do I sue NB
> Power?
>
> MS. CLARK: So with respect to the smart meters, the AMI installation,
> we would be complying with all of Health Canada's Guidelines with
> respect to the meter installation.
>
> Q. - So if there is a problem NB Power is responsible for it or the
> federal, if you are complying by the federal regulations?
>
> MR. FUREY: Mr. Vice-Chair, I don't think that's a fair question to
> address to this panel.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Is there going to be another panel that can address his
> question, Mr. Furey?
>
> MR. FUREY: Well to be asked to comment in advance on circumstances in
> which liability might arise, you know, certainly if there is a
> specific fact circumstance presented, maybe the question could be
> answered, but this is very broad.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So are you suggesting that if he rephrases his
> question that this panel could answer the question?
>
> MR. FUREY: I guess I would have to hear the question, but I -- what I
> am saying is the question as framed is I think impossible to answer.
> And it's unfair to ask any witness to commit to liability around a
> question as broad as if something goes wrong.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, can you reframe your question?
>
> Q. - Well my -- my concern is the spending of a lot of money for the
> smart meters. And as we heard earlier this morning, the temperature
> has a big temp' -- a big effect on the use of power. Well do we need
> to spend millions of dollars to tell us when the temperature gets
> colder and that? NB Power knows that. When the temperature goes down,
> they are going to have to start producing, you know, more power to
> supply the demand. And I think it's really -- wonder if it's worth
> sending that. The other thing is I have received some videos off the
> internet of smart meters where they literally caught the side of the
> house on fire. There was pictures of just around the meter and that.
> So if that happens to my house, who is responsible?
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Panel?
>
> MS. CLARK: I will address your question in two parts. The first part
> of it is with respect to the installation of smart meters or the AMI
> project. The example that was given would be a perfect reason for NB
> Power to install advanced metering infrastructure. During the times
> when the utility or when the province is facing very cold
> temperatures, having the advanced metering infrastructure in place
> would allow customers to have more information readily available
> during the month. So when we are dealing with high bill complaints,
> like we have been this last month due to the extremely cold
> temperatures, customers would actually be able to see their usage
> throughout the month and not be subject to receiving a final bill at
> the end of the month and being surprised by their consumption because
> of the cold weather. So this would be a perfect example of why the
> advanced metering infrastructure would be in the -- it would be in the
> benefit of our customers.
> The second piece, I think with reference to the safety of meters, we
> will be following Measurement Canada safety standards, Health Canada
> safety standards. All of our meters will be tested. And during the
> install, we will actually be able to look at customers' premises to
> see if there are any issues related to safety that we should be
> addressing at the time. There are specific incidents where there have
> been some issues with meters being installed, but those are very
> specific to either the geographical location where they were being
> installed or the customers' equipment itself. But again when we are
> actually installing the meters, as we are installing 355,000 meters
> across the province, we will actually be able to visually inspect
> each one of those locations to see if there is any issues with respect
> to the meter itself or the installation that's on the customers'
> premises. But it would depend on what exactly it is we find as to how
> it would be handled.
>
> Q. - I got one final question. If a customer decides he doesn't want a
> smart meter at his place, can he opt out?
>
> MS. CLARK: Yes, absolutely. We will have an opt out policy.
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is that all your questions, Mr. 20 Bourque?
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Yes.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you.
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>
>
> 02/09/2018 Hearing - Day 3/ Audience - 3ième jour
>
>
> Page 590
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: That is a pretty broad statement. If you could be a
> little bit more specific on restrictions you are referring to.
>
> Q. - Well for an example, Mr. Cronkhite, would be the LIREPP program
> restricts how your generation assets are used. Would you agree with
> that?
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: The LIREPP program is simply a input of renewable
> resources into the system. It does not, in my opinion, for the size of
> the contribution, restrict our operations in any way.
>
> Q. - Okay. You have purchase power agreements. Do they mot also
> dictate or indicate how your generation assets can be used?
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: Certainly we do have power purchase arrangements when
> energy would be an example where we need to incorporate that wind when
> it's generated. As a result of that, we do position, so I think maybe
> Ms. Desmond may be asking this that we do need to position our
> remaining fleet to accommodate or adjust and follow that wind
> variation as it operates today. Not unlike that we would have with
> embedded generation assets, and to a much smaller degree obviously,
> home generation around solar and different items such as that.
>
> Q. - If we were to maximize the benefits of AMI in our smart grid,
> isn't it also true that we should maximize the use of our generation
> supply assets that we currently have, and wouldn't that mean
> revisiting some of these existing constraints?
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: We are always mindful of the existing commitments that
> we have on our system today. When we look forward with respect to the
> time frames, and as I mentioned earlier, that this is a managed
> transition not over five years, but over 15, 20 and 25 years, we are
> always mindful and that's why we have looked at power purchase
> arrangements that are coming due in the mid-20s and beyond that we
> allow the freedom and flexibility for us to make the correct
> adjustments, as we move towards those particular milestones.
> With respect to new generation coming on line, that's why we do the
> modelling, that's why we do sensitivities around various scenarios to
> ensure that we are optimizing to the best of our ability. One of the
> foundational items around our Energy Smart NB plan is being able to
> connect with customers to connect to intermittent generation that we
> know is coming onto the system in the near term and medium term and
> having more visibility on that. So that exactly we can optimize our
> generation fleet more effectively today through visibility on this
> distributed generation resources so that we can synchronize it much
> more effectively with the system moving forward.
>
> Q. - I wasn't specifically asking about new generation. It really was
> the existing constraints that you have to work around and deal with in
> terms of generation dispatch.
>
> MS. DESMOND: Okay. I think those are all of our questions though.
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> BY THE BOARD:
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Ms. Desmond. So I think we do have -- as
> Board members we do have a couple of questions to ask. So I will
> start. I am looking at your current business case that you have
> before us with your total project contribution of minus $1.3 million.
> And from the evidence that we have heard the last couple of days, is
> that you consider this as a breakeven number, and I think that that's
> what you were telling us, Ms. Clark.
> So the normal individual, your rate customer, would you not think
> that he would not perceive your $1.3 million as a breakeven number?
>
> MS. CLARK: I guess in the context in which I was using breakeven is
> it is an investment rationale document and it's intended to cover the
> life cycle costs of the program, and those are assumptions and it's
> hovering very close to zero when you look at it over the life cycle.
> I think in the last few days of the hearing, we have indicated that
> it's more than breakeven and would even say that if we were to
> incorporate the adjustments, and the undertaking we just took from Ms.
> Desmond to provide the adjustments that were recommended in the
> Synapse report, we are looking at an investment rationale that is
> leaning closer to probably $10 million or 8 or $9 million. And if we
> were to quantify some of those non-quantifiable benefits and be less
> conservative in some of the estimates that we put in the investment
> rationale document, I think we could easily get to a $10 million
> improvement.
> Again, and I know you have heard this before, the intention was to
> come in as conservative as possible, and know that we had all the
> potential upside. In hindsight, perhaps we should have taken a
> different approach, but I do believe that we can demonstrate that we
> have a positive investment rationale as well.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So there was discussion around -- and I think it was
> brought forward by Mr. Bourque and Dr. Richard, all about -- and Ms.
> Desmond regarding the option of option in and option out. Have you
> surveyed your current residential customers to see who will opt in and
> who will opt out before making $123 million investment?
>
> MS. CLARK: Customer engagement is a big part of this project, and
> we are as concerned as you would be about making that sort of an
> investment. So we will be doing, as part of our customer engagement,
> but part of it is the focus group that we did early on is people don't
> understand what the smart meter is, so part of it would be around
> education of what the smart meter is and the benefits it can provide
> to customers. So we need to educate our customers first and then
> allow them to make an informed decision. So that will be part of the
> roll-out plan and we will check and adjust along the way. If there
> are issues concerning the social engagement or a customer's uptake,
> you know, this is very similar to what has been done in other
> jurisdictions and they haven't had those challenges, but if we did, we
> certainly wouldn't be looking at making an investment of this size
> without having the customer with us.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Well don't you think, Ms. Clark, that you should
> have your educational piece before the Board approves $123 million
> spend?
>
> MS. CLARK: I recognize the challenge. The commitment the utility
> would make is, as part of the project itself, we would be doing --
> undertaking the engagement process with our customers again starting
> with the education piece.
> Assuming that was positive, we would proceed and we are prepared
> to give the Board updates, as we come forward, either through the general
> rate application or through any other process including the quarterly
> updates we are providing at this point in time on our infrastructure, so
> that
> can be done and conditional with the approval of the project.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So I am trying to understand the objective of the
> AMI, and there was discussion, so can -- and I am having a little bit
> of difficulty understanding what is the objective or objectives that
> you are trying to do with AMI?
>
>
> Page 601
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: I was a bit surprised when I heard this morning and
> yesterday that you are entering into a contract at the end of February
> and is that with respect to the purchase of the smart meters?
>
> MS. CLARK: That's correct.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So how can you enter into a contract without the
> firm approval of this Board, if we are going to approve or not the
> AMI? How prudent is that?
>
> MS. CLARK: So we are at the end stages of the contract in terms of
> just the final terms and conditions, but we have been very clear that
> we -- with the vendor -- and they recognize that, because we also have
> Nova Scotia Power, who is part of our consortium, who also needs Board
> approval. So should we not get -- this is conditional on EUB
> approval. So should we not get EUB approval, the contract would not
> proceed.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Now there was discussion yesterday, I think it was
> with Mr. Stoll regarding time of use and time based pricing, and so I
> went through the evidence this morning, and in your main evidence, and
> I think one of the objective of having the AMI going forward to a time
> of use price structure -- rate structure. So am I understanding that
> correctly?
>
> MS. CLARK: That is correct. And in the evidence, we did answer an
> interrogatory on that and you will see that AMI is an enabler for time
> varying rates in the Energy Smart NB Plan. And we did have time
> varying rates included in our investment rationale. We took it out,
> because we couldn't -- we couldn't pinpoint without more detail as to
> what those time varying rates may be and the benefit of those, so we
> took them out of the investment rationale at this point in time, but
> certainly it's something that we are looking at in the future.
>
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So the fundamental question here is that the Board
> should heard -- or hear Matter 357 before approving the AMI? So if we
> don't approve time of use, that basically what will happen with your
> AMI, I mean it's -- if we don't approve the time of use, which we are
> going to hear next year, how can we proceed in approving the AMI
> before we look at the rate structure?
>
> MS. CLARK: As we have talked about in our investment rationale,
> there are a number of other benefits to both the customer and to the
> utility over and above time varying rates that we believe are
> important for the utility and for the movement forward of our Energy
> Smart New Brunswick plan. Many of those benefits accrue to the
> customer. And many of those benefits accrue to the utility and
> ultimately the customer. So even if we were not to move in the
> direction of time varying rates, we believe that the investment
> rationale supports the AMI installation based on the other investment
> -- or based on the other benefits that it provides.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 11:00:12 +0000
> Subject: RE: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE EUB Matter 452 and NB
> Power's VERY sneaky Application for Approval of an Advanced Metering
> Infrastructure Capital Project
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your email to the Energy and Utilities Board.
>
>
>
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> jordan.gill@cbc.ca; steve.murphy <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>; David.Akin
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> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>; robert.gauvin
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> <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>; Robert. Jones <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>
> Subject: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE EUB Matter 452 and NB Power's
> VERY sneaky Application for Approval of an Advanced Metering
> Infrastructure Capital Project
>
> Methinks questionable lawyer Mr Furey wishes to forget many rather
> important emails I sent him and his bosses over the years but one I
> sent on the 12th of February of 2018 should be of great importance to
> mon ami Roger Richard today N'esy Pas?
>
> Vertias Vincit
> David Raymmod Amos
>
>
> P.S.Trust that I published the emails found beloe on the Internet just
> like I always do
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> Tuesday, 30 January 2018
> RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
> should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to
> read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:40:39 +0000
> Subject: RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
> This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
> how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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> Début du message réexpédié :
>
> De: "Furey, John" <JFurey@nbpower.com>
> Objet: RE: Matter 452 - NB Power Application for Approval of an
> Advanced Metering Infrastructure Capital Project /
> Date: 5 août 2020 14:59:11 UTC−3
> À: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>,
> "Colleen.Mitchell@
> <Colleen.Mitchell@
> <david.sollows@gnb.ca>, "Heather.Quinn@gnb.ca" <Heather.Quinn@gnb.ca>,
> "gerald@kissnb.com" <gerald@kissnb.com>, "hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com"
> <hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>, "cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com"
> <cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com>
> <NbdotCa@hotmail.com>, "Paul.Volpe@libertyutilities.
> <Paul.Volpe@libertyutilities.
> <Gilles.volpe@
> "dave.lavigne@
> <dave.lavigne@
> <LCozzarini@nbpower.com>, "Waycott, Stephen" <SWaycott@nbpower.com>,
> "Crawford, Brad" <BCrawford@nbpower.com>, "Clark, Lori"
> <LClark@nbpower.com>, NBP Regulatory <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>,
> "Gagnon, Jessica Lynn" <JGagnon@nbpower.com>, NBEUB/CESPNB
> <General@nbeub.ca>, "Lawton, John" <John.Lawton@nbeub.ca>, "Desmond,
> Ellen" <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>, "Dickie, Michael"
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> "anapoleon@synapse-energy.com" <anapoleon@synapse-energy.com>
> "bhavumaki@synapse-energy.com" <bhavumaki@synapse-energy.com>
> "mikemckinley@rogers.com" <mikemckinley@rogers.com>,
> "heather.black@gnb.ca" <heather.black@gnb.ca>, "kkelly@daymarkea.com"
> <kkelly@daymarkea.com>, "jathas@daymarkea.com" <jathas@daymarkea.com>,
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> <geoff.flood@t4g.com>, "sstoll@airdberlis.com"
> <sstoll@airdberlis.com>, "jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com"
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>
> Dear Ms. Mitchell,
>
> In relation to the above noted Matter, please find attached a Notice
> of Motion and supporting documentation.
>
> All parties to Matter 452 are being served with this documentation.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> John G. Furey
> Senior Legal Counsel
> New Brunswick Power Corporation
> P.O. Box 2000
> 515 King Street
> Fredericton, N.B.
> E3B 4X1
> Direct Line - 506-458-6970
> Facsimile - 506-458-4319
> JFurey@nbpower.com
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Greg H."
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:36:10 -0400
> Subject: Re: Hey Greg say Hey to two good friends whom I call the
> other two stooges Curly and Moe
> To: David Amos , rrichard , Gerald Bourque
> Cc: David Amos
>
> I hear this morning that Canada has made application to take the
> US/Cdn softwood lumber dispute before the NAFTA Chapter 19 dispute
> resolution panel. They interviewed some trade expert from Queens
> University(if my memory has not failed me here) on the CBC NB morning
> show...he thought it would be a "touchy situation" regards outcome
> this time around.
> We know the NB saw-mills are being hit with countervailing and dumping
> duties but I am asking myself about the pulp-mills which are receiving
> the fraudulent LIREPP subsidy...*we are even subsidizing a US based
> pulp-mill with NB Pwr ratepayers $s !*...that being the one on the US
> side(Madawaska) being fed from the Edmundston pulp-mill switch-yard as
> they feed its electrical supply for that US operation from the
> Canadian Edmundston mill side...all supplied via NB Pwr at
> multi-million $ discounts each year. There is no "renewable energy"
> received onto the NB Pwr electrical grid...the whole thing is a
> fraudulent subsidy scam!
> **G.*
> *
>
> On 16/11/2017 10:00 AM, David Amos wrote:
>> Methinks Mr Furey is gonna regret having an ethical computer N'esy Pas
>> Moe?
>>
>> Enjoy your day fellas. If don't wake up tommorrow please know it is
>> because I died laughing in my sleep.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Dave
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Furey, John"
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 12:51:03 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: EXT - Attn Hon.Rick Doucet Are you aware of
> what transpired at eh NBEUB on Oct, 31, 2017 and these documents with
> regards the U.S .Commerce Dept concerns about NB Power and its Large
> Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program (LIREPP)?
> To: David Amos
>
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Furey, John"
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:11:59 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: EXT - Re The news NB Power payola and a
> little Deja Vu about my indignation towards Gaëtan Thomas and Ed
> Barrett and their meeting with Kris Austin and PANB seven years ago
> To: David Amos
>
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> Tuesday, 30 January 2018
>
> RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
> should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to
> read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:03:59 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General
> Rate Application This weekend after I read the Transcript of the
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> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:04:12 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General
> Rate Application This weekend after I read the Transcript of the
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> <fin.minfinance-financemin.
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:05:13 +0000
> Subject: RE: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate
> Application This weekend after I read the Transcript of the Hearing -
> Day 3 I opted to attend Day 4
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:03:28 -0400
> Subject: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
> This weekend after I read the Transcript of the Hearing - Day 3 I
> opted to attend Day 4
> To: dhebert@npcc.org, charles.berardescof@nerc.net,
> mpopowich@nbpower.com, ecdesmond@nbeub.ca, newsroom
> <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>,
> publicaffairs@doc.gov, "Furey, John" <jfurey@nbpower.com>, wharrison
> <wharrison@nbpower.com>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, news
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> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, BrianThomasMacdonald
> <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.
> "Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
> "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, "brian.gallant"
> <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>
>
> Tuesday, 30 January 2018
>
> RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
> should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to
> read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
>
>
> Hey
>
> Clearly I have some serious issues to dispute with Darren Murphy the
> CFO of NB POWER and the rest of his cohorts within a Crown
> Corporation. This is as brief as I can make an argument in support of
> the need of my testimony in the 375 Matter about what occured within
> it and the 357 Matter etc. In a nutshell I have every right to be an
> Intervenor and to testify as a witness under oath. NB POWER and its
> cohorts in NBEUB failed to prove why I have no right to do so. However
> they certainly proved to anyone who knows how to read what has been
> published why they should be prosecuted libel ASAP. Section 300 of the
> Canadian Criminal Code applies to lawyers too. If you don't think I
> was libeled then introduce me to your lawyer.
>
> The public shows that NBEUB did bar me for malicious reasons on
> October 31st yet permitted me to attend the public hearings this month
> in order to advise my friends Gerald Bourque and Roger Richard. On
> February 7th Gerald Bourque did manage to ask Darren Murphy and his
> associates on NB Power's 1st panel of witnesses a few questions that I
> had asked him to. Need I say that I enjoyed their responses? The
> NBEUB also allowed me to speak for 21 minutes during the Public
> Session that evening but the transcript of the aforesaid session has
> not been filed in the NBEUB records as of yet.
>
> My friends Gerald Bourque and Roger Richard as Intervenors in this
> matter have every right to say and do what they wish which also
> includes paying heed to my advice or ignoring it altogether. The
> filings of Roger Richard in this matter easily attest to the fact that
> initially he wished for me to testify on his behalf in this matter.
> However after Daniel Leblanc appeared in the matter in order to speak
> on my friend's behalf I was removed as a witness. So be it. The NBEUB
> and all the other Intervenors know the truth of my concerns anyway
> byway of many filings within the 357 and 375 Matters. More importantly
> I stated my opinion of this fancy little circus in no uncertain terms
> of the evening of February 7th and I look for to reviewing what I said
> in the heat of the moment.
>
> This weekend after I read the transcript of the 3rd day of the hearing
> I ried to convince my friend Roger Richard to ignore Leblanc's advice
> and put me in his witness list again. However he did not wish to, so I
> respectfully backed away again and will not interfere with my friend's
> plan to stop smart meters going to NB. Methinks the key to it will be
> the media N'esy Pas Mr Jones?
>
>
>
>
> These documents can be sourced from the records of the 375 Matter
>
> http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/
>
> 02/07/2018 Hearing - Day 1 / Audience - 1ier jour
>
> Page 295
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. So there is the two interveners 6 or two
> participants in the proceeding that have no legal counsel. One is Mr.
> Richard and the other one is Mr. Bourque. So I just want to provide --
> yes, Mr. Rouse?
>
> MR. ROUSE: I guess I don't have legal counsel either.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: True. So you are -- NCFS doesn't have legal counsel?
>
> MR. ROUSE: That's correct.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So I will address the three of you then. So Mr. Bourque
> and Mr. Rouse -- I think, Mr. Rouse, you know how the proceeding
> proceeds. So Mr. Bourque, essentially when it comes and you have a
> panel, they are subject to cross-examination. And if you do have any
> questions specifically to the panel, you will be asked to come in
> front and ask your question to whomever your questions you want to ask
> to. Now if there is an objection to your questioning I would ask you
> to stop and at that point what I will do is I will hear the person
> who was objecting to your question and afterwards I will hear if you
> have any other comments to make regarding the objection and we will
> deal with those -- with the objection as it comes. So do you
> understand that?
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Yes, I do and thanks for explaining it.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you. Monsieur Richard, essentiellement
> qu’est ce qui va arriver, pis quoi je mentionnais en anglais, c’est
> que vous êtes non-représenté par un avocat donc vous – peut-être que
> vous connaissez pas toute la façon que les procédures fonctionnent.
> Donc, l’Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick a différent panel qui – qui vont
> introduire pour – pour – pour contre-interrogatoire, donc si vous avez
> des questions a demandé aux personnes, donc, vous allez poser vos
> questions à ces personnes-là. Et puis si y’a une partie qui s’objecte
> à votre question, j’vous demanderais juste d’arrêter. Et puis quoi ce
> que la Commission va faire c’est qu’elle va entendre la partie qui
> s’objecte. Et puis à ce moment-là j’vas vous demandez si vous avez
> aucun commentaire à regarder l’objection et puis on – on va – on va
> rendre une décision à ce point-là relativement à l’objection. Est-ce
> que vous comprenez ceci.
>
> DR. RICHARD: Oui. Oui, Monsieur Vice-président.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN : Pis je comprends aussi que, Monsieur Richard, que vous
> êtes un professionnel, donc durant la procédure vous serez pas ici à
> tous les jours. J’pense que vous avez autorisé un Monsieur LeBlanc de
> – d’être ici à – pour vous représenter lorsque vous serez dans votre
> clinique. Je ne sais pas où votre clinique est, donc ce que je
> comprends bien que cette personne-là va vous représentez lorsque vous
> serez pas disponible.
>
> DR. RICHARD : Oui c’est bien ça
>
> Page 322
>
> CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BOURQUE:
>
> Q. - Mr. Murphy, as Chief Financial Officer, do you agree with 13 the
> accounting of KPMG?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, do I understand the question, do I agree with the
> accounting of KPMG?
>
> Q. - Yes.
>
> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do.
>
> Q. - Do you know the account -- the KPMG auditor, and if so who are they?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, I am having a little difficult time 21 hearing up
> here, did you say the owner or the author?
>
> Q. - The auditors, sorry about that.
>
> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do. I know the primary partner on our particular audit
> file.
>
> Q. - Do you have a name for them?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Our primary audit partner is Jamie O'Neil.
>
> Q. - Jamie O'Neil. And I was a bit surprised that when I asked the
> question earlier and there was -- the audit was not signed and any
> business I have ever been involved with before, the auditors always
> came and made the presentation of the audit and this didn't appear to
> happen. Is there a reason for that?
>
> MR. MURPHY: So I am not exactly sure of the reference that's being
> made, but our audit statements are signed every year. As described, we
> have a very traditional process in terms of the auditors coming in and
> making a final presentation to the boards of directors. It's at that
> time that we do sign off on the audited statements and they are
> available online for anybody to go in and view them.
>
> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you familiar with David Amos and Greg Hickey and
> their concerns about the payout to pulp mills by the NB Power Large
> Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase programs and the fact that the
> U.S. Department of Commerce consider it corporate welfare affecting
> the American interest and with trade with Canada?
>
> MR. FUREY: Mr. Chair, we have been down this road before in previous
> hearings. Mr. Hickey addressed this in at least one, and if I am not
> mistaken, two hearings. And I believe where we objected to certain
> questions of Mr. Hickey in the past like this, the Board concluded
> that relevant questioning -- that it would be a relevant question to
> ask questions related to compliance by NB Power with provisions of the
> Electricity Act and the LIREPP regulation, the renewable regulation,
> which includes the LIREPP program, but debate about policy, as to
> whether or not LIREPP is a desirable policy is not a matter for this
> Board and I think we have had that resolved in previous hearings.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, Mr. Furey is right. We did have -- when
> Mr. Hickey was here last year, and I think at other hearings, we had
> that debate and so it's a policy issue. If you have questions
> regarding LIREPP, regarding compliance, I think you are permitted to
> ask those questions, but if it's questions regarding policy, regarding
> the LIREPP program, it's not relevant and it's in the legislation so
> --
>
> MR. BOURQUE: I wasn't aware of what took place last year.
>
> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you aware of my friend, David Amos and the
> concerns with the NB Power since 2006?
>
> MR. MURPHY: I would not say that I am aware of any detailed concerns
> that Mr. Amos has expressed.
>
> Q. - Have you read the filings that NB Power filed into the record of
> this matter since -- on October 30th of 2017?
>
> MR. MURPHY: Yes, generally I have read all the documents.
>
> Q. - Have you read the transcript of the hearing on October 2 31st?
>
> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the transcript.
>
> Q. - And have you read the emails that Mr. Amos sent since then?
>
> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the emails. If there is something in
> particular that's filed on evidence that you would like to bring up on
> the screen for me to review, I am happy to review it and answer
> questions on it, but I have not read the emails.
>
> Q. - Ms. Clark, why does NB Power consider the smart meter it wished
> to attach to my home a federal matter? If I get sick, or because of
> an injury to my home or property, do I sue the federal or do I sue NB
> Power?
>
> MS. CLARK: So with respect to the smart meters, the AMI installation,
> we would be complying with all of Health Canada's Guidelines with
> respect to the meter installation.
>
> Q. - So if there is a problem NB Power is responsible for it or the
> federal, if you are complying by the federal regulations?
>
> MR. FUREY: Mr. Vice-Chair, I don't think that's a fair question to
> address to this panel.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Is there going to be another panel that can address his
> question, Mr. Furey?
>
> MR. FUREY: Well to be asked to comment in advance on circumstances in
> which liability might arise, you know, certainly if there is a
> specific fact circumstance presented, maybe the question could be
> answered, but this is very broad.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So are you suggesting that if he rephrases his
> question that this panel could answer the question?
>
> MR. FUREY: I guess I would have to hear the question, but I -- what I
> am saying is the question as framed is I think impossible to answer.
> And it's unfair to ask any witness to commit to liability around a
> question as broad as if something goes wrong.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, can you reframe your question?
>
> Q. - Well my -- my concern is the spending of a lot of money for the
> smart meters. And as we heard earlier this morning, the temperature
> has a big temp' -- a big effect on the use of power. Well do we need
> to spend millions of dollars to tell us when the temperature gets
> colder and that? NB Power knows that. When the temperature goes down,
> they are going to have to start producing, you know, more power to
> supply the demand. And I think it's really -- wonder if it's worth
> sending that. The other thing is I have received some videos off the
> internet of smart meters where they literally caught the side of the
> house on fire. There was pictures of just around the meter and that.
> So if that happens to my house, who is responsible?
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Panel?
>
> MS. CLARK: I will address your question in two parts. The first part
> of it is with respect to the installation of smart meters or the AMI
> project. The example that was given would be a perfect reason for NB
> Power to install advanced metering infrastructure. During the times
> when the utility or when the province is facing very cold
> temperatures, having the advanced metering infrastructure in place
> would allow customers to have more information readily available
> during the month. So when we are dealing with high bill complaints,
> like we have been this last month due to the extremely cold
> temperatures, customers would actually be able to see their usage
> throughout the month and not be subject to receiving a final bill at
> the end of the month and being surprised by their consumption because
> of the cold weather. So this would be a perfect example of why the
> advanced metering infrastructure would be in the -- it would be in the
> benefit of our customers.
> The second piece, I think with reference to the safety of meters, we
> will be following Measurement Canada safety standards, Health Canada
> safety standards. All of our meters will be tested. And during the
> install, we will actually be able to look at customers' premises to
> see if there are any issues related to safety that we should be
> addressing at the time. There are specific incidents where there have
> been some issues with meters being installed, but those are very
> specific to either the geographical location where they were being
> installed or the customers' equipment itself. But again when we are
> actually installing the meters, as we are installing 355,000 meters
> across the province, we will actually be able to visually inspect
> each one of those locations to see if there is any issues with respect
> to the meter itself or the installation that's on the customers'
> premises. But it would depend on what exactly it is we find as to how
> it would be handled.
>
> Q. - I got one final question. If a customer decides he doesn't want a
> smart meter at his place, can he opt out?
>
> MS. CLARK: Yes, absolutely. We will have an opt out policy.
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is that all your questions, Mr. 20 Bourque?
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Yes.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you.
>
> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>
>
> 02/09/2018 Hearing - Day 3/ Audience - 3ième jour
>
>
> Page 590
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: That is a pretty broad statement. If you could be a
> little bit more specific on restrictions you are referring to.
>
> Q. - Well for an example, Mr. Cronkhite, would be the LIREPP program
> restricts how your generation assets are used. Would you agree with
> that?
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: The LIREPP program is simply a input of renewable
> resources into the system. It does not, in my opinion, for the size of
> the contribution, restrict our operations in any way.
>
> Q. - Okay. You have purchase power agreements. Do they mot also
> dictate or indicate how your generation assets can be used?
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: Certainly we do have power purchase arrangements when
> energy would be an example where we need to incorporate that wind when
> it's generated. As a result of that, we do position, so I think maybe
> Ms. Desmond may be asking this that we do need to position our
> remaining fleet to accommodate or adjust and follow that wind
> variation as it operates today. Not unlike that we would have with
> embedded generation assets, and to a much smaller degree obviously,
> home generation around solar and different items such as that.
>
> Q. - If we were to maximize the benefits of AMI in our smart grid,
> isn't it also true that we should maximize the use of our generation
> supply assets that we currently have, and wouldn't that mean
> revisiting some of these existing constraints?
>
> MR. CRONKHITE: We are always mindful of the existing commitments that
> we have on our system today. When we look forward with respect to the
> time frames, and as I mentioned earlier, that this is a managed
> transition not over five years, but over 15, 20 and 25 years, we are
> always mindful and that's why we have looked at power purchase
> arrangements that are coming due in the mid-20s and beyond that we
> allow the freedom and flexibility for us to make the correct
> adjustments, as we move towards those particular milestones.
> With respect to new generation coming on line, that's why we do the
> modelling, that's why we do sensitivities around various scenarios to
> ensure that we are optimizing to the best of our ability. One of the
> foundational items around our Energy Smart NB plan is being able to
> connect with customers to connect to intermittent generation that we
> know is coming onto the system in the near term and medium term and
> having more visibility on that. So that exactly we can optimize our
> generation fleet more effectively today through visibility on this
> distributed generation resources so that we can synchronize it much
> more effectively with the system moving forward.
>
> Q. - I wasn't specifically asking about new generation. It really was
> the existing constraints that you have to work around and deal with in
> terms of generation dispatch.
>
> MS. DESMOND: Okay. I think those are all of our questions though.
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> BY THE BOARD:
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Ms. Desmond. So I think we do have -- as
> Board members we do have a couple of questions to ask. So I will
> start. I am looking at your current business case that you have
> before us with your total project contribution of minus $1.3 million.
> And from the evidence that we have heard the last couple of days, is
> that you consider this as a breakeven number, and I think that that's
> what you were telling us, Ms. Clark.
> So the normal individual, your rate customer, would you not
> think that he would not perceive your $1.3 million as a breakeven
> number?
>
> MS. CLARK: I guess in the context in which I was using breakeven is
> it is an investment rationale document and it's intended to cover the
> life cycle costs of the program, and those are assumptions and it's
> hovering very close to zero when you look at it over the life cycle.
> I think in the last few days of the hearing, we have indicated that
> it's more than breakeven and would even say that if we were to
> incorporate the adjustments, and the undertaking we just took from Ms.
> Desmond to provide the adjustments that were recommended in the
> Synapse report, we are looking at an investment rationale that is
> leaning closer to probably $10 million or 8 or $9 million. And if we
> were to quantify some of those non-quantifiable benefits and be less
> conservative in some of the estimates that we put in the investment
> rationale document, I think we could easily get to a $10 million
> improvement.
> Again, and I know you have heard this before, the intention
> was to come in as conservative as possible, and know that we had all
> the potential upside. In hindsight, perhaps we should have taken a
> different approach, but I do believe that we can demonstrate that we
> have a positive investment rationale as well.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So there was discussion around -- and I think it was
> brought forward by Mr. Bourque and Dr. Richard, all about -- and Ms.
> Desmond regarding the option of option in and option out. Have you
> surveyed your current residential customers to see who will opt in and
> who will opt out before making $123 million investment?
>
> MS. CLARK: Customer engagement is a big part of this project, and
> we are as concerned as you would be about making that sort of an
> investment. So we will be doing, as part of our customer engagement,
> but part of it is the focus group that we did early on is people don't
> understand what the smart meter is, so part of it would be around
> education of what the smart meter is and the benefits it can provide
> to customers. So we need to educate our customers first and then
> allow them to make an informed decision. So that will be part of the
> roll-out plan and we will check and adjust along the way. If there
> are issues concerning the social engagement or a customer's uptake,
> you know, this is very similar to what has been done in other
> jurisdictions and they haven't had those challenges, but if we did, we
> certainly wouldn't be looking at making an investment of this size
> without having the customer with us.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Well don't you think, Ms. Clark, that you should
> have your educational piece before the Board approves $123 million
> spend?
>
> MS. CLARK: I recognize the challenge. The commitment the utility
> would make is, as part of the project itself, we would be doing --
> undertaking the engagement process with our customers again starting
> with the education piece.
> Assuming that was positive, we would proceed and we are
> prepared to give the Board updates, as we come forward, either through
> the general rate application or through any other process including
> the quarterly updates we are providing at this point in time on our
> infrastructure, so that can be done and conditional with the approval
> of the project.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So I am trying to understand the objective of the
> AMI, and there was discussion, so can -- and I am having a little bit
> of difficulty understanding what is the objective or objectives that
> you are trying to do with AMI?
>
>
> Page 601
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: I was a bit surprised when I heard this morning and
> yesterday that you are entering into a contract at the end of February
> and is that with respect to the purchase of the smart meters?
>
> MS. CLARK: That's correct.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So how can you enter into a contract without the
> firm approval of this Board, if we are going to approve or not the
> AMI? How prudent is that?
>
> MS. CLARK: So we are at the end stages of the contract in terms of
> just the final terms and conditions, but we have been very clear that
> we -- with the vendor -- and they recognize that, because we also have
> Nova Scotia Power, who is part of our consortium, who also needs Board
> approval. So should we not get -- this is conditional on EUB
> approval. So should we not get EUB approval, the contract would not
> proceed.
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Now there was discussion yesterday, I think it was
> with Mr. Stoll regarding time of use and time based pricing, and so I
> went through the evidence this morning, and in your main evidence, and
> I think one of the objective of having the AMI going forward to a time
> of use price structure -- rate structure. So am I understanding that
> correctly?
>
> MS. CLARK: That is correct. And in the evidence, we did answer an
> interrogatory on that and you will see that AMI is an enabler for time
> varying rates in the Energy Smart NB Plan. And we did have time
> varying rates included in our investment rationale. We took it out,
> because we couldn't -- we couldn't pinpoint without more detail as to
> what those time varying rates may be and the benefit of those, so we
> took them out of the investment rationale at this point in time, but
> certainly it's something that we are looking at in the future.
>
>
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So the fundamental question here is that the Board
> should heard -- or hear Matter 357 before approving the AMI? So if we
> don't approve time of use, that basically what will happen with your
> AMI, I mean it's -- if we don't approve the time of use, which we are
> going to hear next year, how can we proceed in approving the AMI
> before we look at the rate structure?
>
> MS. CLARK: As we have talked about in our investment rationale,
> there are a number of other benefits to both the customer and to the
> utility over and above time varying rates that we believe are
> important for the utility and for the movement forward of our Energy
> Smart New Brunswick plan. Many of those benefits accrue to the
> customer. And many of those benefits accrue to the utility and
> ultimately the customer. So even if we were not to move in the
> direction of time varying rates, we believe that the investment
> rationale supports the AMI installation based on the other investment
> -- or based on the other benefits that it provides.
>
>
> 10/31/2017 Pre-Hearing / Conférence préalable à l'audience
>
>
> Page 84
>
> CHAIRMAN: All right. I will now give the decision of the Board on this
> matter.
>
> Mr. Amos seeks intervenor status in Matter 375. NB Power objects to
> his intervention claiming his conduct during the hearing of a motion
> in Matter 357 was confrontational and that his arguments lacked any
> connection to the issues before the Board. The Board agrees with that
> assessment.
>
> In the present matter, Mr. Amos was given ample opportunity to put
> forward a case that would support a respectful and responsible
> intervention. He failed to do so, rolling forward issues raised in
> Matter 357 and not addressing the issue before us today.
>
> Mr. Amos states that the interests he would bring before the Board
> are those raised by Mr. Bourque and Mr. Richard. The Board is
> satisfied that those two intervenors can adequately represent those
> issues. In addition, those issues will undoubtedly be addressed by
> the Public Intervenor and others.
>
> Page 85
>
> The Board finds on a balance of probability that Mr. Amos will not
> participate in this matter in a respectful and responsible manner. As
> a result, the Board will exercise its discretion and refuse
> intervenor status to Mr. Amos. Intervention is encouraged but it must
> be responsible.
>
> Mr. Amos may participate in the public session which date will be
> announced shortly. But again he is reminded that any presentation
> must be done in a respectful and responsible manner.
>
> Finally, Mr. Amos had indicated that he wished to assist his two
> colleagues that are sitting with him today. And certainly the Board
> has no issue with that at all. But Mr. Amos will have no status at the
> hearing in terms of cross-examination or making any argument.
> So that is the decision of this Panel with respect to the status of Mr.
> Amos.
>
> Are there any other issues to deal with today? There being no other
> issues, then we will adjourn.
>
>
> This exhbit was filed by NB Power along with many others to support my
> barring from the 375 Matter
>
> NB Power Notice of Objection - Appendix I 10/30/2017
>
> For the benefit of my fellow stakeholders I wish to explain all of the
> transcript found above of under oath
>
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/nb-powers-rate-hike-plan-for-april-1.html
Friday, 31 July 2020
NB Power's rate hike plan for April 1 has been caught in pandemic limbo
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks Nick Brown should fess up and admit that his latest boss Higgy don't care about NB Power raising rates. He is merely trying to inspire the narrative before he has the writ dropped N'esy Pas?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-planned-rate-hike-pandemic-limbo-1.5669716
NB Power's rate hike plan for April 1 has been caught in pandemic limbo
'Increasing electricity prices at the wrong time may slow the economic recovery'
· CBC News · Posted: Jul 31, 2020 7:00 AM AT
NB Power has long struggled to fulfill two competing goals: keeping rates for customers low and its own finances healthy. (Radio-Canada)
A rate increase NB Power was hoping to have in place April 1 to help boost its troubled finances is still in limbo heading toward next month as the province and utility both ponder when customers and the economy might be ready to absorb higher prices.
"Increasing
electricity prices at the wrong time may slow the economic recovery and
hurt our most vulnerable citizens," said province of New Brunswick
spokesperson Nick Brown in an email Thursday.
In
February, NB Power presented its case to a full Energy and Utilities
Board (EUB) hearing for a 1.9 per cent increase in rates to take effect
April 1 but on March 19, with a ruling imminent the utility requested an
indefinite suspension of the application in light of the COVID-19
pandemic.
"Many
businesses are closed or at reduced operation for an unknown time frame
and many employees of those businesses have been affected as a result,"
said then NB Power president Gaetan Thomas in a letter to the EUB
"NB Power has concluded that a rate increase implemented on April 1, 2020 would be counterproductive."
In January's State of the Province address Premier Blaine Higgs said NB Power had to 'immediately' come up with a plan to deal with its 'unacceptable debt.' Two months later the utility's finances were being battered by the COVID-19 pandemic. (Stephen MacGillivray/Canadian Press)
The utility said it
would inform the EUB when a better time for an increase presented itself
"In consultation with the Government of New Brunswick" but four months
later the suspension continues with no word yet when the EUB will be
released to deliver its rate decision and the utility freed up to charge
customers more.
Marc Belliveau, a spokesperson for NB Power, suggested there is no decision on the immediate horizon.
"NB
Power continues to monitor the impact of COVID-19 on its customers and
its operations, which includes the impact of the timing of the EUB
decision on rates," Belliveau said in an email.
NB Power lawyer John Furey guided the utility's application for an April 1 rate increase through a seven day hearing in February only to have the company suspend the request in March. (CBC)
Complicating the issue
is that NB Power's own finances have been battered by the pandemic,
worsening its already considerable money problems.
Two
weeks ago the utility declared a $16 million loss for the fiscal year
ended in March, its first year of negative earnings in a decade.
Expensive delay
In
the current year, NB Power has been budgeting for a modest $40.9
million profit, but that was put together long before the global economy
began contracting in March and assumed a full rate increase beginning
April 1st.
At the
hearing in February the utility's director of financial planning Diane
Fraser estimated any delay past April 1 for an NB Power increase would
be expensive.
Energy and Utilities Board vice-chair Francois Beaulieu said in March a decision on NB Power's application for a 1.9 per cent rate increase on April 1 was "imminent" before the utility applied for a pandemic related suspension. Four months later the increase is still pending. (Graham Thompson/CBC)
"The effect of the delay of an increase roughly I would say its between two and three million dollars per month," said Fraser.
NB
Power is under strict instructions by the Higgs government to lower its
debt levels significantly by 2027, a directive that the current rate
freeze is not helping.
But
there are also political issues to be weighed, with a series of
byelections, if not a general election, coming by the end of the year.
The province says it is aware of the financial pressure NB Power is under but has other issues to worry about as well.
"As
we continue to deal with the pandemic, government is trying to balance
the needs of New Brunswickers while keeping its fiscal house in order,"
said Brown.
"We
continue to have discussions with NB Power and recognize the utility's
need to recover their costs and not add to their long-term debt."
NB
Power has reduced or delayed some capital spending plans for the year,
including the temporary suspension of its application to acquire and
deploy smart meters in New Brunswick which Brown said has been helping
to cut the utility's costs.
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David Amos
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Methinks Nick Brown should fess up and admit that his latest boss Higgy don't care about NB Power raising rates. He is merely trying to inspire the narrative before he has the writ dropped.
Some folks must recall Gallant promising to freeze NB Power's rates during the last election then he took it back in order to get support from the Greens as he tried to remain the boss. Now Higgy is playing the same game. This is particularly egregious to me after watching Higgy support the NB Power late filing for a rate increase as soon as the PANB allowed him to have the mandate.However the second bid for "Not So Smart" Meters and another rate increase took the cake N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks the EUB and NB Power should also rethink what they did against me during the last hearing N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
When exactly, and where exactly was the last eub meeting?
When exactly, and where exactly was the last eub meeting?
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Ask this dude He works for you and I do not
Good afternoon,
It is my recollection that the Brattle presentation session originally scheduled for December 2019 included the opportunity for parties to make a presentation at that session after the Brattle Group presentation had concluded. Can the Board please confirm whether this is still the case for the May 12 session, or are parties limited to providing a written submission per the letter distributed today? Thank you,
Steve
__________________________________
Stephen A. Waycott
Director, Corporate Regulatory Affairs
New Brunswick Power Corporation
Good afternoon,
It is my recollection that the Brattle presentation session originally scheduled for December 2019 included the opportunity for parties to make a presentation at that session after the Brattle Group presentation had concluded. Can the Board please confirm whether this is still the case for the May 12 session, or are parties limited to providing a written submission per the letter distributed today? Thank you,
Steve
__________________________________
Stephen A. Waycott
Director, Corporate Regulatory Affairs
New Brunswick Power Corporation
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
...and when you write in a question and the eub doesn't bother to answer?
These meetings are done secretly. Why?
How is that in NB's best interest?
Price controls are socialism, and only benifits a very few at the top.
...and when you write in a question and the eub doesn't bother to answer?
These meetings are done secretly. Why?
How is that in NB's best interest?
Price controls are socialism, and only benifits a very few at the top.
Alex Butt
NB power is such a
corrupt, mismanaged money making machine that will NEVER change. The
only thing Mr thomas et al are interested is taking our hard earned
money to cover for all their failings past, present and future all the
while collecting huge pay-cheques and bonuses .
David
Peters
Reply to @Alex Butt:
It's a thinly veiled cash cow, patronage appointment scheme, imo
It's a thinly veiled cash cow, patronage appointment scheme, imo
David Amos
Reply to @Alex Butt:
Methinks Mr Jones and everybody else knows that Mr Thomas also asked the
EUB not to make a decision about NB Power's second bid for "Not Smart
Meters" before he left the scene. However the "et al" remains the same
in this ongoing circus within the EUB N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David
Peters: Methinks a lot of folks must get very frustrated after wasting a
lot of precious time awaiting moderation by people who purportedly work
for us only to see red bar in the end as their words go 'Poof" N'esy
Pas?
David
Peters
NBers would be much better off if the energy market were opened up to free market competition.
Fred
Brewer
Reply
to @David Peters: I agree. The sad truth is that we were on a path to
achieve free market competition but it got derailed. Step one was to
separate the transmission business from the generation business and that
step was completed by establishing an independent transmission system
operator. Step two was to allow competition. The system operator could
sell transmission rights to any generator so they could use those
transmission lines to sell power directly to end users. Sadly this step
never happened and the independent system operator was dissolved and
folded back into NB Power. What a waste of time and money.
David
Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Imagine being able to enter the energy generation sector as a small business...or to be able to invest in a well run local energy production business.
A few ppl have taken this away from NBers and stuck them with a massive bill.
Imagine being able to enter the energy generation sector as a small business...or to be able to invest in a well run local energy production business.
A few ppl have taken this away from NBers and stuck them with a massive bill.
David Amos
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: Methinks whereas you claim to know so much I should ask why you
did not bother to appear at any of the EUB Hearings and fixed things
for us N'esy Pas?
David
Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
How do you know that eub even bothers to answer email submissions?
How do you know that eub even bothers to answer email submissions?
David
Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Is that why the eub meetings timings and locations are kept secret, to avoid having to answer questions?
Is that why the eub meetings timings and locations are kept secret, to avoid having to answer questions?
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @David
Peters: Agreed. There is no substitute for open competition. Consumers
always win. This has been proven time after time. Having choices is
wonderful. When you are unhappy with your internet or cable TV provider,
you just switch providers. This is what free, open markets are all
about. Monopolies are detrimental to ratepayers and NB Power is proof
of that.
Jen Corvec
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: But we haven't got a choice in NB for cable and internet
either...just 2 awful companies with horrible service over and over.
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @Jen Corvec:
You raise a good point but just think how much worse it would be if you
had no other option. Then there would be no incentive whatsover to
provide better service, more features or better pricing. But if we had
two or three more new competitors in NB then you would see a real battle
shaping up for your business. That is where a free market would really
start to shine.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: I never said any of that
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Its not my fault i am blocked when i do explain things
Ben Round
I can't understand
why CBC news reader read this on radio with the tone of " poor NB Power
can't get their raise" as if we should feel bad for them
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Round: Unions
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos: unicorns
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: And the problem with unions is???
Ray Oliver
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You seem very concerned on the Hydro prices for a hobo
Terry Tibbs
Isn't this financial
shortfall the direct result of investing (gambling) their slush fund and
watching their investments shrink by approximately 25%?
Making the moral of the story: don't gamble other people's money.
Making the moral of the story: don't gamble other people's money.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
Ben Haroldson
We should sell that outfit.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Agreed. NB Power is the albatross that hangs around the neck of New Brunswick.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Only because the management team reads like a list of the who is who of patronage appointments.
Only because the management team reads like a list of the who is who of patronage appointments.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
Why sell? It's a business owner's dream. A product everyone wants and needs, and a captive customer base, what could possibly go wrong?
What, in this case, "goes wrong", is the patronage appointments to upper management of a bunch of "do nothings/know nothings", who, out of boredom, get the idea in their heads, that gambling the slush fund is a "good idea".
Why sell? It's a business owner's dream. A product everyone wants and needs, and a captive customer base, what could possibly go wrong?
What, in this case, "goes wrong", is the patronage appointments to upper management of a bunch of "do nothings/know nothings", who, out of boredom, get the idea in their heads, that gambling the slush fund is a "good idea".
Alex Butt
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: That was tried years ago but the NB sheep cried to save their
beloved power company. Now we all pay the price!
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
I think you are only partially correct. The problem is systemic and
flows from the Board of Directors down to senior and middle management.
To rectify the problem you would likely need to clean house and replace
up to 100 people and we all know that will never happen unless the
business is sold. A new owner's first task would be to clean house and
they would do it and they would have their own managers who actually
know how to operate efficiently and how to make this business profitable
on an ongoing basis.
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I disagree However NB Power should finally be audited and a lot of people need to be held accountable\
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/nb-power-finances-suffered-657m-hit-in.html
Saturday, 18 July 2020
NB Power finances suffered $65.7M hit in March from COVID-19
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks its high time folks thank Dr. Roger Richard who has been working very diligently and at great expense before the EUB defending our interests against NB Power's nonsense N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/nb-power-finances-suffered-657m-hit-in.html
#nbpoli #cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-earning-report-covid-19-1.5654175
NB Power finances suffered $65.7M hit in March from COVID-19
Utility missed earnings target for 5th straight year after markets tumbled days before its fiscal year ended
· CBC News · Posted: Jul 17, 2020 5:59 PM AT
NB Power's loss of $16 million in its latest fiscal year is the fifth year in a row the utility has seen its earnings fall below expectations. (CBC)
NB Power is reporting it lost $16 million in its latest fiscal year, a victim of the COVID-19 economic meltdown in March that ravaged its finances in a matter of days.
The utility had told the province to expect a $49.7-million profit for the fiscal year ending on March 31 — a figure New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves used in his March 10 budget — but 21 days later, $65.7 million had evaporated and NB Power's accounts suddenly tumbled into the red.
"It was the instability of the financial markets in February and March 2020, largely as a result of the pandemic, that drove this reduction," said new NB Power president Keith Cronkhite in a statement in the utility's annual report released Friday.
Cronkhite was only named president on March 30, succeeding former president Gaëtan Thomas one day before the fiscal year ended.
Finance Minister Ernie Steeves announced on March 10 the province was headed for a $97.7-million budget surplus for the fiscal year ended March 31, but that depended on NB Power turning a $49.7-million profit. The utility's $16-million loss will show up when Steeves issues final financial statements later this summer. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
NB Power chair Ed Barrett was philosophical about the unfortunate turn of events in his own statement.
"It is remarkable that what we may remember most about 2019/20 are the events that surfaced just as NB Power's fiscal year was drawing to a close."
It's the fifth year in a row NB Power has failed to meet its earnings target although the problem this time was financial, not operational.
The money is managed by Vestcor, the Fredericton investment entity that handles New Brunswick government employee pension funds, and a steep collapse in global financial markets that began in late February was behind most of NB Power's losses, according to the account in its annual report.
NB Power's loss was caused by a March meltdown in financial markets, not operational problems, as its nuclear decommissioning investments were hammered. (Richard Drew/The Associated Press)
"The instability of the financial markets largely as a result of the global COVID-19 pandemic, led to a significant decrease in the gains on the investments year-over-year and was the primary driver of this unfavourable variance."
No one from the utility was made available to speak about the financial results Friday, but the loss will have a significant impact on New Brunswick's own fiscal year financial results which will be reported later this summer.
The province had projected a $97.7-million budget surplus for the year ended March 31, 2020, but the setback at NB Power will spill onto its books and erase two thirds of that.
A budget surplus the province had been projecting for 2021 has already been downgraded to a $343-million deficit.
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David Amos
Methinks everybody knows why KPMG and I are not surprised N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Cronkhite was only named president on March 30, succeeding former president Gaëtan Thomas one day before the fiscal year ended."
Methinks Higgy et al forgot to inform folks that one of the last things Gaëtan Thomas did was write a letter to the EUB in order to beg them not to come to a decision about NB Power's second bid for Not So Smart Meters anytime soon Now you know why N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Do you think it's a good idea to have a secretive 'board' controlling huge swathes of NB's economy, like the eub does?
Don't forget that they oversee the transportation industry as well.
Do you think it's a good idea to have a secretive 'board' controlling huge swathes of NB's economy, like the eub does?
Don't forget that they oversee the transportation industry as well.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Why do you think they keep barring me from intervening?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David
Peters: You are free to participate in the process as well as anyone
else in NB. It is important to take care of our business.
David Amos
Methinks its high time that folks thank my friend Roger Richard who has been working very diligently and spending a lot of his own money for nearly 3 years appearing before the EUB defending our interests against NB Power's nonsense N'esy Pas?
Roger
Richard
Reply to @David Amos:
I may add, if you permit Mr. Amos, that if the people of NB do not
smarten-up very fast we will lose NB Power to the Americans. The cards
are all lined-up in that regard.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: Methinks Emera would love to buy NB Power just like they did
with Nova Scotia Power years ago. If they so no doubt the rates would
go through the roof N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Right now Emera is asking for TOU rates in Nova Scotia.
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: They use Not So Smart Meters to accomplish that feat Methinks
that the same meter that raises the bills even when folks are not using
any power whatsoever N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
Reply to @David Amos: Yes, in several publications.
Fred Dee
how many employees were PAID to stay home and not work?? How many are still getting this FULL pay with benefits for staying home and doing nothing!!???
Here is a way that $$ should have been saved!!
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee: Methinks that nonsense went on throughout GNB N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Love these people stating " Tesla stocks are up " or " Gold is up " ! Did THEY put all their money in either ? Quit lookin' back at your MISSED OPPORTUNITIES and intimating it's only others that missed them !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Late last year my son used some of his gold to buy a Tesla before the
markets took a nosedive Does that count?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Lou Bell:
As a matter of fact I did invest in Tesla but I bought it even earlier
so my return is 6X. But I am not a professional investor like Vestcor.
What do I know? Yet NB Power blames Vestcor for their losses.
Ben Haroldson
I'll bet the executive bonuses didn't take a hit, in fact they were probably topped up by the feds.
David Amos
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: Methinks the Feds take a wide berth of NB Power particularly
after Harper sold our Nuke assets to SNC Lavelin then Trudeau got in hot
water N'esy Pas?
Corrie Weatherfield
"LOSS" only occurs in an investment account when you sell at a lower price than the price at which you bought . . . how does this show up as a "loss" ? If a $700 million investment account waiting to be used some years in the future goes down in market value, what sort of accountant records that as a loss in the current year? Let us not expect an answer . . . the sort of accountants that manage the finances of NBPower and of the govt have proven themselves many times to be better with words than with numbers.
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: And there is no way that can happen with a " crown " NPO.
David Amos
Reply to @Corrie
Weatherfield: Methinks you should work that out with KPMG because we pay
them to check NB Power's books N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Buckle up buttercups, we have been publicly given "the BIG excuse", for a total and thorough hosing.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Cardy has stocked up on butter tarts before there is a run on them N'esy Pas?
janice small
Wheres Kevin Cormier when you need him ????
Fred Brewer
Reply to @janice small: LOL
David Amos
Reply to @janice small: He is busy lugging Cardy's butter tarts to the backroom
Carroll Cameron
This shortfall is rather easy to overcome for now and the future, and quell the resident whiners n detractors of the power commision that live on CBC forums, and that is remove the EUB and leave the power commision alone. Allow it to turn a profit by charging the people of NB what the real cost of power is. Then they'll have the money to make a real dent in their accumulated debt as the years go by.
Sounds like a good plan to get the comm. into the black. It should satisfy everyone that craves the comm turning a profit and it.....Oh Wait!
David Peters
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
How can we possibly know what the real cost of energy is, with the way this sector has been regulated and monopolized?
How can we possibly know what the real cost of energy is, with the way this sector has been regulated and monopolized?
David Peters
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
Seems like you are begrudging citizens ability to voice their opinions on this vital file.
Is that why the eub meetings timings and locations are kept secret?
Seems like you are begrudging citizens ability to voice their opinions on this vital file.
Is that why the eub meetings timings and locations are kept secret?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
While in principle, I like the idea of trustworthy folks being given free reign to properly operate NB power, the reality is that "trustworthy" does not exist within the confines of NB Power.
While in principle, I like the idea of trustworthy folks being given free reign to properly operate NB power, the reality is that "trustworthy" does not exist within the confines of NB Power.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @David
Peters: We have had this conversation before. EUB hearings are all
public and you can register to speak at hearings if you wish. Currently
due to covid not much is happening and they are or were pretty much shut
down. Hearings are advertised in the newspaper and on their website.
David
Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Can you answer when and where the last eub meeting was, and provide a link to your source? Because, you didn't the last time I asked you this...
Can you answer when and where the last eub meeting was, and provide a link to your source? Because, you didn't the last time I asked you this...
David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
-sound of crickets-
There is no reasonable justification for manipulating sectors, like the way the eub does, imo. Would be much more beneficial for the vast majority of New Brunwickers if the marketplace set commodity prices and the consumer picked winners and losers in the business world.
-sound of crickets-
There is no reasonable justification for manipulating sectors, like the way the eub does, imo. Would be much more beneficial for the vast majority of New Brunwickers if the marketplace set commodity prices and the consumer picked winners and losers in the business world.
Carroll Cameron
Reply to @David Peters:
You say I'm begrudging the citizens their voice, but, that wasnt my intention although I can see how one could come to that conclusion.
A few of the voices are always vindictive and the rest issue nothing positive or constructive. All I did was offer one way to eliminate the power comm thorn in their what ever part of their body they choose
Maybe I should've included that the power comm should be sold outright into private hands that absolutely need to make a profit. Wouldn't matter what citizens said then, about the cost of their electricity. The gov(we) would have no control over them either and, but, they wouldnt be a burden on the prov's bottom line either.
You say I'm begrudging the citizens their voice, but, that wasnt my intention although I can see how one could come to that conclusion.
A few of the voices are always vindictive and the rest issue nothing positive or constructive. All I did was offer one way to eliminate the power comm thorn in their what ever part of their body they choose
Maybe I should've included that the power comm should be sold outright into private hands that absolutely need to make a profit. Wouldn't matter what citizens said then, about the cost of their electricity. The gov(we) would have no control over them either and, but, they wouldnt be a burden on the prov's bottom line either.
Carroll Cameron
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
I disagree with you Terry. You're painting everyone with the same brush and that is just wrong.
Maybe you should've defined what group you are referring to b/c it sounds as if you're including the power comm middle and frontline workers.
I disagree with you Terry. You're painting everyone with the same brush and that is just wrong.
Maybe you should've defined what group you are referring to b/c it sounds as if you're including the power comm middle and frontline workers.
Carroll Cameron
Reply to @David Peters:
I dont actually know David, but, I think we could start to get an idea if the EUB was removed and the other option I added to a reply to you below.
I dont actually know David, but, I think we could start to get an idea if the EUB was removed and the other option I added to a reply to you below.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
As of late NB Power has not missed one single opportunity to disappoint.
Anyone with investments took a financial hit, be it investments in stocks and bonds, or a simple bank balance. Thinking they are "special", this simple story is fair warning of upcoming rate increases by these "honest" people.
As of late NB Power has not missed one single opportunity to disappoint.
Anyone with investments took a financial hit, be it investments in stocks and bonds, or a simple bank balance. Thinking they are "special", this simple story is fair warning of upcoming rate increases by these "honest" people.
David Peters
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
They say the answer to bad speech is more speech, but on this file there is virtually no public discussion...and on the transportation file, there is absolutely no discussion...no sound at all, like the void of space.
These sectors are keystones to NB's economy and they are way, way over-regulated and monopolized. There needs to be transparency and accountability, imo. Freer markets tend to roar back quickly...to most everyone's benefit.
They say the answer to bad speech is more speech, but on this file there is virtually no public discussion...and on the transportation file, there is absolutely no discussion...no sound at all, like the void of space.
These sectors are keystones to NB's economy and they are way, way over-regulated and monopolized. There needs to be transparency and accountability, imo. Freer markets tend to roar back quickly...to most everyone's benefit.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Methinks the upside of this is that the EUB will likely deny for
the second time NB Power's bid to borrow over 100 million loonies for
Not So Smart Meters N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @David
Peters: As I recall, commenting was closed before I could answer your
question. It looks like Jan 13 of this year was likely the last hearing.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearings-1.5425284
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearings-1.5425284
Fred Brewer
NB Power's investment losses began in February. Well, if they had invested in Tesla on Jan 31, they would have more than doubled their money. The future is in electric vehicles and renewable energy but none are so blind as those who do not want to see.
David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
This file gets uglier the closer you look at it.
This file gets uglier the closer you look at it.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Gold is up a SOLID 25% since November.
Gold is up a SOLID 25% since November.
David Peters
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
That's because Trudeau is printing $ out of thin air like crazy.
That's because Trudeau is printing $ out of thin air like crazy.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Peters:
It's a double gamble, gambling on the value of the Canadian dollar, and gambling our oil based economy collapses.
It's a double gamble, gambling on the value of the Canadian dollar, and gambling our oil based economy collapses.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I told ya it would correct?
Bill Henry
"It was the instability of the financial markets in February and March 2020“ wait, what? So it is a paper loss on an investment that is not expected to be used until years from now?
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @Bill Henry: agree. not a "loss" unless they sell . . . says a lot about the method of "accounting"
David Amos
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: They count it when the value goes up correct?
eddy watts
If people thought being shut-down for as long as NB has been, (trying to keep it's death by covid below .001).........that any "opening" would be painless, you are in for a huge shock; and don't expect the feds to throw $$$ at the province, as there are others, who in many cases have been open longer, needing help.
David Amos
Reply to @eddy watts: FYI
Ottawa provides N.B. with $200M to restart economy during COVID-19
There are still 3 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick
Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Jul 17, 2020 3:38 PM AT
Ottawa provides N.B. with $200M to restart economy during COVID-19
There are still 3 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick
Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Jul 17, 2020 3:38 PM AT
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Wouldn't it be nice to have a detailed accounting of that $200M?
Wouldn't it be nice to have a detailed accounting of that $200M?
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Ask the Auditor General to do her job
Don Smith
Sounds more like we have been put on notice for a rate hike or worse SMART METERS!
David Amos
Reply to @Don Smith: Ya can't say that i didn't warn ya many times
Terry Tibbs
We have a situation where most folks are sitting home entertaining themselves, so somehow, we are to believe usage is down, and it's not like one single residential user gets any special deals. Yet losing money is supposedly what happened? Right.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Its not rocket science
Norman Albert Snr
Guess that would have something to do with the call I got today not allowing incentive grants for upgrade during a Pandemic
David Amos
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Yup
Lou Bell
So really , the loss should already be mostly made up by now if one understands the markets and where they stand today . I have a suspicion there's more to this than just those investments !
James Vander
Reply to @Lou Bell:
There's always more to this when it's NB Power, however, the markets are
still a long way from their pre-Covid highs.
Commercial power usage would be down so far that residential rates would never cover off. I'm not defending NB Power by any means, but this is their latest excuse for missing the numbers....Not sure which one they'll use next time.
Commercial power usage would be down so far that residential rates would never cover off. I'm not defending NB Power by any means, but this is their latest excuse for missing the numbers....Not sure which one they'll use next time.
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your hero Higgy would say it ain't so after all Vestcor was his creation N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @James Vander: You're wrong ! Actually the markets are near their pre COVID highs !
James Vander
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Really? The TSX being off by almost 2000 points yesterday is hardly
being close to pre-Covid highs. Ask anyone who is on an income based on
stock market performance how they are doing and if they've noticed a
drop in income lately. Not gov't pensions, but those in the real world.
Not everyone bought Tesla and gold stocks..../ We are in a recession.
Not everyone bought Tesla and gold stocks..../ We are in a recession.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-point-lepreau-nuclear-plant-running-like-newborn-1.5652829
Aging Point Lepreau nuclear plant is running like a newborn
New Brunswick plant has operated trouble-free for one year
· CBC · Posted: Jul 17, 2020 5:00 AM AT
The Point Lepreau nuclear generating station is a 705 mega watt Candu-6
reactor. It has been a fixture at the edge of the Bay of Fundy for
nearly four decades. (Submitted/NB Power)
New Brunswick's 37-year-old nuclear plant at Point Lepreau
quietly completed a full year of uninterrupted power generation earlier
this week, the first since its pre-teen years in the early 1990s.
It's a significant development that, if sustainable, holds the potential to alter the financial fortunes of NB Power.
"This
accomplishment, especially through the COVID-19 pandemic, is something
the station is proud of," the utility said in a statement about the
milestone.
Former premier Richard Hatfield loved large modern economic development projects and pushed for the adoption of nuclear power in New Brunswick. After years of construction and controversy, Lepreau went into commercial production in 1983. (CBC NEWS)
Over the last year, Lepreau has generated close to 5.8 terawatt hours of electricity for distribution, about $400 million worth depending on market prices, and close to 100 per cent of its maximum capacity.
NB Power believes it is the longest the plant has run without shutting down since at least 1994, and perhaps ever, since earlier records are not easily accessed.
The flawless year of operation for Lepreau follows the investment of several hundred million dollars in the plant to solve serious performance problems that emerged following its $2.4 billion refurbishment that ended in 2012.
It produced only 90 per cent of the electricity expected of it during the first seven and a half years after refurbishment due to a number of malfunctions in non nuclear equipment that had not been upgraded during the effort to replace nuclear components.
$500 million in repairs
Lepreau began what was supposed to be an 18-month, $1.4 billion refurbishment of its nuclear components in 2008. The renovation finished three years late and $1 billion over budget, and the plant performed below expectations until recently. (Photo submitted)
Multiple unscheduled shutdowns caused by the malfunctions between 2012 and last July cost NB Power more than $200 million in lost electrical production and pushed the cost of capital repairs and upgrades to improve reliability at Lepreau to more than $500 million.
That has been weighing down NB Power's bottom line and undermining plans to pay down debt.
NB Power has been unable to pay down its multi-billion dollar debt as planned since 2013 in part because of production problems and maintenance costs at the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station. (Submitted/NB Power)
It has and NB Power now expects Lepreau to fuel an increase in its profitability.
"If we think about what have been the primary drivers that have led to subpar (financial) performance the last number of years, we can point to Point Lepreau's performance coming out of the refurbishment," NB Power's chief financial officer, Darren Murphy, said at hearings in February during Lepreau's current mistake-free run.
"Unfortunately, it did not perform as we would have liked. However … we have been able to substantially improve the performance of Point Lepreau, therefore, reducing the risk that Lepreau will be the (cause) of subpar performance."
Originally, Lepreau was scheduled to be taken offline in April for annual maintenance but COVID-19 restrictions in the province derailed those plans until September. Instead it has kept running and setting production records.
52 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.David Amos
Methinks folks should consider how much power we need N'esy Pas?
Roy Kirk
Let's not forget that running for extended periods and deferring maintenance to do so is part of what got that plant into trouble in the 1st place. It is too valuable an asset to suffer such abuse. Deferral of a necessary maintenance shutdown -- even if that deferral was made necessary by the pandemic -- is a poor excuse for a celebration.
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Good point
Morgan Brown
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Point Lepreau is not suffering abuse; the planned maintenance shutdown in April was the preferred target for the outage (i.e., Spring lower demand period). Delaying the outage until the Fall (another lower-demand period) is well within the safe capability of the unit, but utilities prefer to perform maintenance when scheduled (It's a huge effort to plan all the activities and coordinate the crews, contractors and supplies). Bruce-1 (also a CANDU, in Ont) just completed a 694-day continuous run, and Darlington-1 (also an Ont CANDU) passed the 903-day mark (still going), setting a new North American record for a continuous run (passing 894 days set in 1994).
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Morgan Brown: I sense that you might be an NB Power employee, probably at the nuke plant, right?
Gilles Villeneuve
We need to invest heavily in nuclear power to reduce carbon emissions and prevent climate change. Clean, emission free electricity from nuclear fired power plants is the future for our planet and is the only viable energy source that can take over from oil when it runs out.
Fred
Brewer
Reply to @Gilles
Villeneuve: Nuclear is NOT the only viable source to take over from oil.
According to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration,
there are seven countries already at, or very, close to 100 percent
renewable power: Iceland (100 percent), Paraguay (100), Costa Rica (99),
Norway (98.5), Austria (80), Brazil (75), and Denmark (69.4). Nuclear
is NOT a renewable power source and we need to stop using it. We still
have not figured out what to do with nuclear waste and just look at
Fukushima and Chernobyl. With things go wrong with nuclear they go wrong
big time.
David Amos
Reply to @Gilles Villeneuve: Yea Right
Lewis
Hamilton
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: all of the countries you list, except Iceland and Denmark, use
hydroelectric for the vast majority of their energy production. Iceland
uses geothermal and Denmark wind. They all benefit from their particular
geography. We don’t have the river system to support building dams. The
environmentalists want the Mactaquac dam removed instead of replaced.
Geothermal isn’t an option and neither is large scale wind. Large scale
solar is also not an option because of our latitude.
Morgan Brown
Reply to @Lewis
Hamilton: In addition, Denmark benefits from having a lot of inter-ties
with large grids (Germany and Sweden) which provide electricity to
Denmark when the winds die / at night / cloudy days. Denmark is able to
sell (or at least deliver) its excess electricity to these large grids
when the winds are blowing strongly. Wind and solar have their place
in providing electricity to grids, but need very large storage
capability (none in Denmark, I believe is still the case) or
interconnections if you are going to try to power a country (or even a
region).
In addition, electricity is only a portion of a country's energy consumption - fossil fuels power most transportation and a lot of heating. If these are going to be made less carbon-intensive, then much more clean electricity is needed. Hence the need for nuclear.
In addition, electricity is only a portion of a country's energy consumption - fossil fuels power most transportation and a lot of heating. If these are going to be made less carbon-intensive, then much more clean electricity is needed. Hence the need for nuclear.
Terry Tibbs
If I remember
correctly, didn't everyone whine and cry when a professional was
imported, and paid the big bucks, to do this very thing?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I am still whining
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
You don't see this kind of turn-around without talent and talent doesn't come cheap.
John Branscombe
"Over
the last year, Lepreau has generated close to 5.8 terawatts of
electricity for distribution, about $400 million worth depending on
market prices, and close to 100 per cent of its maximum capacity."
Good grief! It would be nice if articles about energy were written by people with some grasp of the subject they are writing about. A terawatt is a measure of power, not energy. The term that the writer should have used is terawatt hour, the unit of energy. This error is akin to saying the distance between two places is 100 km per hour or that a container holds a certain number of litres per minute. Unfortunately, such a blunder in discussing the topic displays a lack of knowledge of the subject matter and diminishes the trust one should place in the rest of the article, even if the rest is competently written. A basic science education should prevent such a lack of understanding of the subject matter.
Good grief! It would be nice if articles about energy were written by people with some grasp of the subject they are writing about. A terawatt is a measure of power, not energy. The term that the writer should have used is terawatt hour, the unit of energy. This error is akin to saying the distance between two places is 100 km per hour or that a container holds a certain number of litres per minute. Unfortunately, such a blunder in discussing the topic displays a lack of knowledge of the subject matter and diminishes the trust one should place in the rest of the article, even if the rest is competently written. A basic science education should prevent such a lack of understanding of the subject matter.
Lou Bell
Reply to @John Branscombe: Whos cares ? Ye got your 15 minutes from those few that care, now move on
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Just because it does not bother you, does not mean it does not bother
others. I am sure if a salesman tried to tell you a car has a fuel
economy of 25 litres, you would soon be corrected him/her and would lose
respect for someone who should know better.
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take your own advice N'esy Pas?
Greg Miller
Bottom line--what does all this mean to my electric bill? Should I be happy or unhappy?
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Miller: Have you ever seen your rates lowered?
Justin Time
"It
is a bit more difficult to go any further than the 26 years (1994),"
said NB Power spokesperson Marc Belliveau in an email about whether it
has ever run longer. " I call B.S. on that. Detailed records on
operation from day 1 were and are necessary and available.
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Time: Of course
Lewis Hamilton
Reply to @Justin
Time: they are likely on paper and archived somewhere. What he is saying
is that nobody has the time to go digging for them just for this news
article.
Alex Butt
Perhaps
if the top brass of nb power stopped wasting so much money on bonuses,
excessively high wages, squandering and magic joi beans the debt could
be brought down. All they think about is how to take more money out of
our pockets for their less than stellar service!
David Amos
Reply to @Alex Butt: That has been par for the course since I was a kid
Steve Caissie
NB Power managers must want bigger bonuses.
David Amos
Reply to @Steve Caissie: Of that I have no doubt
Ben Haroldson
Sounds like the perfect time to sell it, utility and all.
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: When something run good do you sell it?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Theo Lavigne:
Only if you are sure it's on it's last gasp and ALL downhill from here.
Only if you are sure it's on it's last gasp and ALL downhill from here.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo
Lavigne: When my car runs great, I can get market value for it. When my
car runs poorly or not at all then I get very little for it. So to
answer your question, yes, the best time to sell something is when it is
running properly.
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Funny when my car runs great I keep it
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: And you know this?
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: Yes i can look at a Carfax for your car what about the nuclear
Power plant, maybe they have a NeclearFax for that...
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo
Lavigne: And then when the engine explodes you pay to have the car
hauled away because it is worthless. But if you had sold it a year
sooner you would have gotten thousands for it. To each his own I guess.
It is always a matter of judgement, you look at the age of the car, the
value of the car and the risk of expensive repairs down the road. The
best time to sell Point Lepreau is when it is running like a top. It is
no spring chicken.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo
Lavigne: CARFAX only tells you about accident damage. They cannot
determine if the engine or transmission is about to explode.
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: So you believe N.B. power when they say it's running good. That can also blow up next week.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Theo Lavigne:
"Things" can change quicker than that...............
The truth is: we can't ever stop attempting to use that reactor. The clean-up, if it was ever decommissioned, would likely bankrupt Canada, never mind New Brunswick.
"Things" can change quicker than that...............
The truth is: we can't ever stop attempting to use that reactor. The clean-up, if it was ever decommissioned, would likely bankrupt Canada, never mind New Brunswick.
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy and Trudeau The Younger think we can afford anything and everything Nesy Pas?
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer There goes the sale lost 16 million in March lol..
.
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Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Yep so sell her now!
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: It just lost a tire lol
Fred Brewer
Congratulations! Now
if you can keep that up for the next 12 years or so, we might be able to
recoup the $2.4 billion cost of the last refit. On an all-costs basis,
will Point Lepreau ever turn a profit? I doubt it very much.
Theo
Lavigne
Reply to @Fred Brewer: If they get the Smart Meters they want ,they will run a profit you can bet on it...
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Theo
Lavigne: Yes they may turn a profit on smart meters after the $13
million cost has been recovered, and after NB Power hikes the power
rates for time of day power use. But any profits earned won't come close
to what they have lost on boondoggle projects like Lepreau and Coleson
Cove.
Dianne
MacPherson
Reply to @Theo Lavigne:
No 'Smart Meter" for me !!!
And I'm hoping The PUB won't give permission
for their use !!!
No 'Smart Meter" for me !!!
And I'm hoping The PUB won't give permission
for their use !!!
David Amos
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Reply to @Dianne
MacPherson: Methinks my friend Roger Richard has been working very
diligently to make your wish come true N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
pete prosser
What ever happened to all the law suits? Did we ever win any?
David Amos
Reply to @pete prosser: Kinda sorta
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/consumers-will-pay-for-nb-powers-debt.html
Thursday, 7 February 2019
Consumers will pay for NB Power's debt one way or another, intervener says
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-pay-debt-1.5008165
Consumers will pay for NB Power's debt one way or another, intervener says
Public intervener says storms and other unforeseen costs have thwarted utility's debt-reduction plan
New Brunswickers will feel pain
no matter how NB Power pays off its debt, and the only questions are how
severe and how long-lasting the pain will be, says public intervener
Heather Black.
NB Power has a responsibility to pay down its debt, something it has been trying to do since 2011, Black said on Information Morning.
In 2011, the utility said it would pay down $1 billion in debt by 2025.
Black said that goal was achievable in 2011, but it became more difficult to realize as time went on.
"Since
then NB Power has had a significant amount of trouble meeting its
income targets, net income targets, and hasn't made progress towards
debt reduction really."
Black cited a mixture of reasons for missing income targets, including unforeseen costs related to buying electricity, the Point Lepreau nuclear station, and storms.
NB
Power CFO Darren Murphy said commodity prices and climate change are
two factors in the utility's inability to pay down the debt. (CBC)
At
the legislature's standing committee on Crown corporations this week,
NB Power CFO Darren Murphy said the projections in 2011 were made using
commodity price data available at the time, but the information has
significantly changed since then.
"As those prices change we see significant changes in our underlying costs," Murphy said.
Murphy told the committee that climate change has also played a role in the utility's ability to pay down its debt.
"We certainly did not have, built into those long-range plans, the idea that storm frequency and magnitude of the impacts would be as great as they are," said Murphy.
NB Power has asked permission from the Energy and Utilities Board for a yearly average rate increase of 2.5 per cent until 2029 to help the utility reduce the debt.
But documents NB Power filed with the board also point to a more drastic option to reduce the debt: a 22.3 per cent rate increase over five years.
Public
intervener Heather Black said that until NB Power looks after its debt,
it risks not having a cushion to look after unforeseen problems. (Robert Jones/CBC)
Black said both options have negative elements.
The 2025 plan would have the unwanted effect of implementing a seep rate increase but would reduce the debt faster.
The 2029 plan would see a more subdued rate increase, but the utility would have to keep its debt longer.
"Until that reduction is achieved, rate payers still bear the risk of NB Power not having that cushion of equity to be able to be prepared for unforeseen things that happen or future expenditures," Black said.
This could lead to more erratic rate increases, she said, since NB Power will be reacting to unforeseen events without being able to absorb the costs.
NB Power has a responsibility to pay down its debt, something it has been trying to do since 2011, Black said on Information Morning.
In 2011, the utility said it would pay down $1 billion in debt by 2025.
Black said that goal was achievable in 2011, but it became more difficult to realize as time went on.
Black cited a mixture of reasons for missing income targets, including unforeseen costs related to buying electricity, the Point Lepreau nuclear station, and storms.
Commodity prices, climate change
"As those prices change we see significant changes in our underlying costs," Murphy said.
Murphy told the committee that climate change has also played a role in the utility's ability to pay down its debt.
"We certainly did not have, built into those long-range plans, the idea that storm frequency and magnitude of the impacts would be as great as they are," said Murphy.
NB Power has asked permission from the Energy and Utilities Board for a yearly average rate increase of 2.5 per cent until 2029 to help the utility reduce the debt.
But documents NB Power filed with the board also point to a more drastic option to reduce the debt: a 22.3 per cent rate increase over five years.
Positives and negatives
The 2025 plan would have the unwanted effect of implementing a seep rate increase but would reduce the debt faster.
The 2029 plan would see a more subdued rate increase, but the utility would have to keep its debt longer.
"Until that reduction is achieved, rate payers still bear the risk of NB Power not having that cushion of equity to be able to be prepared for unforeseen things that happen or future expenditures," Black said.
This could lead to more erratic rate increases, she said, since NB Power will be reacting to unforeseen events without being able to absorb the costs.
With files from Information Morning Fredericton and Connell Smith
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
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David Amos
Methinks its kinda comical
that after a long day I hear nothing but crickets and one typical reply
from a snobby Anglo dude who does not appreciate my using old English
and Chiac in most of my comments However I am certain that the comedian
turned PC Minister Mr Gauvin and his SANB friends understand my jokes
N'esy Pas?
David Amos
"New Brunswickers will feel pain no matter how NB Power pays off its debt, and the only questions are how severe and how long-lasting the pain will be, says public intervener Heather Black."
Methinks that may be true Howeverer the lady said those words on the car radio and they made me laugh as I was heading to Saint John to argue her and her cohorts in the EUB as NB Power was trying to boot me out of another hearing about their rate hikes Obviously the transcript o the hearing yesterday easily proves that the Powers That Be in NB and elsewhere know that the fat lady ain't sung yet over that issue yet N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks it was very
interesting that after I listened to Public Intervener Heather Black
talk on radio on the way to Saint John she offered no comment during
the EUB Hearing yesterday as the NB Power's lawyer, the EUB and and
their pals had a Battle Royale with me on the public record N'esy Pas?
Robert G. Holmes
Rate payers in NB and
elsewhere; it's not only that Hydro Engineers seem to have lost their
way, watch carefully for political fixing of the Accounts:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-hydro-deferral-accounts-at-5-5-billion-1.5008308
Remember Enron and Anderson Accounting, among other nefarious schemes to hid true costs.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-hydro-deferral-accounts-at-5-5-billion-1.5008308
Remember Enron and Anderson Accounting, among other nefarious schemes to hid true costs.
@Robert G. Holmes Trust that I
have a long memory and keep very good records. Methinks folks should
ask NB Power's and the Irving Clan's KPMG buddies why that is N'esy Pas?
Dave Peters
The cost overruns for our
only Nuclear Plant power plant accounts for almost the entire debt NB
Power holds taking interest cost into account. To my knowledge a public
review on the cost benefits of this plant has not been performed. Poor
management of the original infrastructure costs + the refurbishment
costs have put this utility in the red. Why does this happen? Seems
that it is a free for all once these projects are green lighted by the
province. Better to shelve new infrastructure projects until we can
figure out why construction costs are double what was budgeted for.
David Amos
@Dave Peters "The cost overruns for our only Nuclear Plant power plant accounts for almost the entire debt NB Power"
Nope Political interference is the problem
Nope Political interference is the problem
@Dave Peters
I could not agree more! Point Lepreau construction and refit both went way over budget and were years late in delivery. Coleson Cove refit and re-refit were the same. Why would we expect the Mactaquac refit to be any different? This utility has demonstrated that all of its mega-projects go way over budget and are delivered late.
I could not agree more! Point Lepreau construction and refit both went way over budget and were years late in delivery. Coleson Cove refit and re-refit were the same. Why would we expect the Mactaquac refit to be any different? This utility has demonstrated that all of its mega-projects go way over budget and are delivered late.
Robert G. Holmes
@Dave Peters Agreed. Like Nl
and the Muskrat Boondoggle, and BC with Site C Dam, Hydro Engineers have
lost their way on Cost Engineering studies. The Irving Engineer should
be capable of fixing this before the expected dam failures bring on more
mega project overages.
David Peters
@Dave Peters
Wouldn't it be ill advised to hold off replacing or removing a crumbling dam?
Wouldn't it be ill advised to hold off replacing or removing a crumbling dam?
David Amos
@David Peters Methinks we
would save over 8 million loonies i we allow Mother Nature to do her job
and in the "Mean" Time the old ire Chief and the loons could continue
to enjoy the lake N'esy Pas?
Tobin Hamilton
I wonder why so many increases?? **see below**
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/tb-ct/pdf/OC/PA15Emp.pdf
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/tb-ct/pdf/OC/PA15Emp.pdf
David Amos
@Tobin Hamilton Methinks its
sick and sad that these snobby people who purportedly serve us are
supported by taxpayers whose average income is about the minimum wage so
both the husband and wife must work The bureaucracy has grown and
things have changed for the worse for the other folks since Little Louie
dreamed up equal opportunity N'esy Pas?
Paul Bourgoin
New Brunswick Consumers will pay for NB Power's debt, Now are we talking citizen consumers and Industrial consumers or Both?
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Take a guess
Fred Brewer
On another note, Hydro Quebec
profits fell this year to $2.85 Billion. The previous year their
profits were $2.86 Billion. That's $2,860,000,000 of profit. HQ
consistently turns profits and have the lowest power rates in the
country. Not bad for a government owned utility unlike our government
owned utility.
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Methinks the
reason the Quebeckers show a profit is because they are actually audited
whereas NB Power is not N'esy Pas?
Wally Manza
We also need to raise
government taxes and fees to rescue the city of Saint John from decades
of fiscal mismanagement. I hear they lost another snow plow last week.
David Amos
@Wally Manza Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Wally Manza
I think most people would
want a 23% rise. Then we need to raise taxes and government fees very
substantially to reduce our debt burden. We also need to raise taxes and
fees to save or healthcare system which is burdened by lack of beds to
store our elderly.
David Amos
@Wally Manza Methinks you should not make fun of the old folks such as I Some of us take such jokes not to well N'esy Pas?
Repair Guy
So if all the high priced
C-level staff at NBPower are unable to figure out the market (i.e. so
many 'unforeseen' costs) why are we paying them? If we are truly at
the whim of circumstance what is the point of this keeping such feckless
'leadership'? Pay NBPower execs based on their ability to meet targets
or get rid of them.
David Amos
@Repair Guy I agree
Greg Smith
I've said this time and time
again; the impact of storms to NB Power's infrastructure and ability to
consistently deliver electricity is entirely a function of managerial
neglect. Trees don't grow to a height that can topple and damage lines
overnight, and the fact that this was allowed to happen was a function
of many years of management's decision to aggressively cut back on
infrastructure maintenance spending. This is exactly what was expected
to happen when you tie management bonus structure to the bottom line,
and the end consumers should NOT be responsible for this poor decision
making.
David Amos
@Greg Smith Methinks you should read what I have been saying time and time again N'esy Pas?
Greg Smith
@David Amos You mean the words "methinks" and "N'esy Pas"? Thanks, but I'll pass.
David Amos
@Greg Smith Why is it that I am not surprised?
David Peters
Only a gov't backed monopoly can get away with such obvious mismanagement.
Libertarian platform regarding Energy:
"2.3 Energy and Resources
While energy is needed to fuel a modern society, government should not be subsidizing any particular form of energy. We oppose all government control of energy pricing, allocation, and production."
https://www.lp.org/platform/
Libertarian platform regarding Energy:
"2.3 Energy and Resources
While energy is needed to fuel a modern society, government should not be subsidizing any particular form of energy. We oppose all government control of energy pricing, allocation, and production."
https://www.lp.org/platform/
David Amos
@David Peters "Only a gov't backed monopoly can get away with such obvious mismanagement"
Mais Oui
Mais Oui
Harold Benson
We need more than interveners, we need a gov't that will sell that outfit.
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks Sam should check my work N'esy Pas?
Mark (Junkman) George
Throwing more money into a
bottomless pit is no answer. NB Power should ONLY be granted a rate
increase when they can prove at least a minimum amount of efficiency. As
things stand now too little is being done by too many.
David Amos
@Mark (Junkman) George YUP
Samual Johnston
NB power has over 2400+ employees and N.S. power has 1700 + employees
Perhaps we could stand to lose a few?
Perhaps we could stand to lose a few?
Marc Martin
@Samual Johnston
Not to defend NB power but the infrastructures and land to cover is 4 time the size of NS.
Not to defend NB power but the infrastructures and land to cover is 4 time the size of NS.
Fred Brewer
@Marc Martin
"Not to defend NB power but the infrastructures and land to cover is 4 time the size of NS."
Marc, you need a new calculator. NB has 72,908 sq/kms while NS has 55,284 sq/kms. How is that 4 times the size of NS? Or did you forget that Cape Breton is part of NS?
"Not to defend NB power but the infrastructures and land to cover is 4 time the size of NS."
Marc, you need a new calculator. NB has 72,908 sq/kms while NS has 55,284 sq/kms. How is that 4 times the size of NS? Or did you forget that Cape Breton is part of NS?
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Methinks the SANB needs a better spindoctor N'esy Pas?
Aaron Lagendyk
Should invest more in solar,
wind, and tidal generators to save money on coal and nuclear fuel. Long
term ROE sure but higher rates means we have less money to spend. My
bill is already hundreds of dollars a month.
David Amos
@Aaron Lagendyk Methinks there is no need we already generate enough power for our needs N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
On a positive note, with renewable energy, living off the grid looks more and more like an alternative option.
Samual Johnston
@Marguerite Deschamps looks better than it did but still way more expensive than grid power
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps
Methinks you are no doubt well aware byway of this interview the latest
political boss of your favourite ex SANB president Mr Arseneau advised
all interested New Brunswickers to intervene in the EUB 430 Matter if
they could find the time.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-crown-corporations-committee-1.4980763
As your cohort admitted yesterday my Roger Richard and I took the Watermelon Party's advice and did so. All government employees such as Mr Martin should know that the transcript of the first hearing will be available and downloadable from the EUB website shortly N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ambulance-lack-bilingual-staff-anb-1.5006740?__vfz=profile_comment%3D3305300018323
@David Amos "Methinks I should ask why nobody showed up at the EUB hearing today N'esy Pas"
@Marc Martin "You badgered us all week you where going, we placed all our fates in you...."
Ray Bungay
Why is how top heavy the
management side is, is not being brought up by the Public Intervener?
And why has the top of selling the utility off to the private sector not
talked about. The point in part of these hearings is to set a price for
energy, the profitability of the utility and the ability to fairly pay
down the debt.
As I see it, charging a much higher charge to the majority of those in NB is not possible when you are demanding seniors and the working poor to pay more, those who are firm fixed incomes. Not easy to balance I am sure but the corp users must share in the pain not just home owners or apartment dwellers who cannot qualify for help to make their "homes" more air tight but are expected to pay the lion's share of the cost to fix the problem.
Shawn Graham had the right idea during his term in Government....SELL IT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR!! This idea must and should be revisited ASAP!
As I see it, charging a much higher charge to the majority of those in NB is not possible when you are demanding seniors and the working poor to pay more, those who are firm fixed incomes. Not easy to balance I am sure but the corp users must share in the pain not just home owners or apartment dwellers who cannot qualify for help to make their "homes" more air tight but are expected to pay the lion's share of the cost to fix the problem.
Shawn Graham had the right idea during his term in Government....SELL IT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR!! This idea must and should be revisited ASAP!
Rosco holt
@Ray Bungay
You think the service/ cost that NBPower provides is bad now, you haven't seen it when given by the private sector
You think the service/ cost that NBPower provides is bad now, you haven't seen it when given by the private sector
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@Rosco holt Oh So True
Dan Flanagan
This article is fluff. Who
doesn't understand higher rate increases will pay down a debt faster
than small rate increases? No where does it say what NBP's debt is. Come
on CBC, this is just shoddy reporting. Lately I've noticed CBC
tip-toeing around many issues. Tell it like it is.
I think their debt stands around $5 billion. That's about $6,500 for every man, woman & child. For a family of 4, that's $26,000. We are in a hole deep
I think their debt stands around $5 billion. That's about $6,500 for every man, woman & child. For a family of 4, that's $26,000. We are in a hole deep
David Amos
@Dan Flanagan This article is fluff.
YUP
YUP
Johnny Jakobs
What a joke!
NBPower aka NB mafia.
White collar crime.
Excuses for failed targets.
Pay someone 150k plus a year and they forget all about climate change?
What a joke!
NBers need to wake up and start speaking their voice.
If you think you are poor now, wait until your rates double within 5 years... that's what is coming.
NBPower aka NB mafia.
White collar crime.
Excuses for failed targets.
Pay someone 150k plus a year and they forget all about climate change?
What a joke!
NBers need to wake up and start speaking their voice.
If you think you are poor now, wait until your rates double within 5 years... that's what is coming.
David Amos
@Johnny Jakobs "What a joke! "
Welcome back to the circus
Welcome back to the circus
Joe Gallant
Over 100 employees at this
poorly managed corporation make $150k per year and they wonder why they
cannot get out of debt. Time to get the auditor general.
Joe Gallant
@Joe Gallant
Sorry I missed a zero in my number
Sorry I missed a zero in my number
David Amos
@Joe Gallant "Time to get the auditor general."
YUP
YUP
John Pokiok
This the same utility that
few days ago had 130 million dollars to spend on "smart meters" now they
crying how they in debt and they need more money what a joke.
David Amos
@John Pokiok Methinks Mr
Higgs knows that my friend Roger Richard and I are not laughing after
what we said on the PUBLIC RECORD during the EUB hearing yesterday N'esy
Pas?
John Smit
Well it is the year of the pig. If you look up nepotism in the dictionary you will see the NB Power logo.
Rosco holt
@John Smit
I see the logo of the Liberals and PC in mine.LOL
I see the logo of the Liberals and PC in mine.LOL
David Amos
@Rosco holt Me Too
Methinks most folks would enjoy a photo of them battling over control of the pork barrel N'esy Pas?
Methinks most folks would enjoy a photo of them battling over control of the pork barrel N'esy Pas?
Roy Kirk
The ratepayer and tax payers
are different groups that pay in different ways. To the extent that
NPR's financial woes are due to poor mgmt and political interference, it
should be the tax payer and not the rate payer that ponies up.
Roy Kirk
@Roy Kirk nbp not npr
Shawn McShane
@Roy Kirk The rate payer is the tax payer and the government du jour borrows on behalf of NB Power and on-lends proceeds.
Came across this from a while ago, no date: NB Power – Debt Management Plan... Province will eliminate the payments in lieu of income taxes and Transco dividend payments that NB Power is currently required to pay to government to further reduce its debt burden. https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/erd/energy/content/energy_blueprint/content/debt_management_plan.html
Came across this from a while ago, no date: NB Power – Debt Management Plan... Province will eliminate the payments in lieu of income taxes and Transco dividend payments that NB Power is currently required to pay to government to further reduce its debt burden. https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/erd/energy/content/energy_blueprint/content/debt_management_plan.html
David Amos
@Shawn McShane True
Shawn McShane
Jan 24, 2019 Siemens Canada, NB Power and Nova Scotia Power announce $92.7 million project...
"This partnership will be truly ground-breaking. Together with NB Power and Nova Scotia Power, we will develop and implement a powerful cloud-based Energy System Platform (ESP), allowing everyone to participate in the energy market," says Faisal Kazi, President and CEO of Siemens Canada.
"This partnership will be truly ground-breaking. Together with NB Power and Nova Scotia Power, we will develop and implement a powerful cloud-based Energy System Platform (ESP), allowing everyone to participate in the energy market," says Faisal Kazi, President and CEO of Siemens Canada.
Shawn McShane
"...while ensuring we protect our customers from the significant rate increases."
says Gaëtan Thomas
says Gaëtan Thomas
Rosco holt
@Shawn McShane
Which customers?
Not residentials....
Which customers?
Not residentials....
Shawn McShane
@Rosco holt The customers in Nova Scotia lol
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks that must be your idea of gallows humour N'esy Pas
Ron harvey Harvey
That sale to Quebec looks like it would have been the best deal ever as we continue to see the mismanagement of NB power
Alex Butt
@Ron harvey Harvey So true but I think that secretly they are happy they didn't get involved with this NB homegrown mess!
David Amos
@Ron harvey Harvey Methinks Mr Higgs et al know that I thought it was a great idea out of the gate N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Alex Butt Methinks Quebeckers ain't that dumb N'esy Pas?
philippe m martin
NB power should have first
curtail all employee benefits to a normal level of industry benefits
offered,told them a few years back but no action. NB power was a cash
cow for many in the past. So really what is really news here. The only
answer is atlantic green energy, one corporate body , spinning 40% IPO
on the market. but all provinces will have to pass laws to do this.
so lets put them all responsible . pm
Pierre LaRoches
@philippe m martin better
have a look at what utility workers make in other jurisdictions, you're
advocating raises for everyone at NBP so they get to a normal level of
industry.
David Amos
@philippe m martin "NB power was a cash cow for many in the past."
Methinks many would agree that it still is N'esy Pas?
Methinks many would agree that it still is N'esy Pas?
Alex Butt
That's right, the NB
government and mr thomas can waste and mismanage all they want, with no
accountability or consequence and we pay for it. No wonder why New
Brunswick's largest export is it's people.
David Amos
@Alex Butt Sad but true
Fred Brewer
Why is our public intervenor
not questioning the need for 1,340 NB Power employees who each make over
$100,000 per year? Why is she not demanding for internal cost savings
before even considering drastic rate hikes. By not doing so, she is
rewarding NB Power for its poor performance.
Rosco holt
@Fred Brewer
Why would she question the actions of her employer?
The public intervenor is more a title than anything else. She doesn't represent all those she suppose too equally.
Why would she question the actions of her employer?
The public intervenor is more a title than anything else. She doesn't represent all those she suppose too equally.
Fred Brewer
@Rosco holt
If she is not truly independent then it is time for her to be fired. I am beginning to think that is the first step that is needed.
If she is not truly independent then it is time for her to be fired. I am beginning to think that is the first step that is needed.
Rosco holt
@Fred Brewer
Yes, she isn't really independent when she defends the interests of the private sector (which is overly represented) over that of residentials customers who are used has sacrificial lambs.
Yes, she isn't really independent when she defends the interests of the private sector (which is overly represented) over that of residentials customers who are used has sacrificial lambs.
David Amos
@Fred Brewer "If she is not truly independent then it is time for her to be fired."
Methinks you should ask yourself why she offered no comment after I raised some serious hell at the EUB hearing yesterday Anyone can download the transcript N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should ask yourself why she offered no comment after I raised some serious hell at the EUB hearing yesterday Anyone can download the transcript N'esy Pas?
Shawn Tabor
Yes, let the AG open the books. Should be made to open the books before raising the rates one dime.
David Amos
@Shawn Tabor YUP
David Amos
@David Amos I know you will like what I said at the EUB hearing yesterday
Shawn McShane
Open the books, how much has government taken from the utility?
@Shawn McShane Check my work
cheryl wright
we should not have to pay a cent until they have opened the books and let the AG at them. trim within before asking more from us
David Amos
@cheryl wright I wholeheartedly agree
Shawn McShane
Public intervener says storms
and other unforeseen costs have thwarted utility's debt-reduction plan
but no mention on how much governments have siphoned from the utility?
When NB Power was for sale it was said government had sucked billions.
Same as British Columbia except the media there actually reported it:
VICTORIA — The Liberal government is grabbing more than $1.7 billion in
revenue from the Insurance Corp. of B.C. and BC Hydro over the next
three years, on the heels of rate hikes
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks you should ask Mr Higgs why he kept this Public Intervener N'esy Pas?
Paul Bourgoin
How much money does those
sweet heart deals to clients in other provinces, the United States, and
our own Industry who receives preference negotiated transactions behind
closed doors for industrial customers. The cost to New Brunswick
Residents who at the end of the day have to sacrifice their Family
budgets to finance NB Power miss-management, or sweetheart benefits is
questionable for favoritism and legality?
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Methinks you should ask the Auditor General to look into it N'esy Pas?
Gil Murray
Umm, public intervener = NB Power spokesperson. Seems a bit odd.
David Amos
@Gil Murray Welcome to the circus
Rob Franklin
Help me understand how "NB POWER" is repaying the debt if it's the customers' rates that are being jacked up to do it?
David Amos
@Rob Franklin They are not
June Arnott
Disgraceful how poorly this has been ran.
Rosco holt
@June Arnott
It's the political plan, screw NBPower up badly to "sell it".
It's the political plan, screw NBPower up badly to "sell it".
David Amos
@Rosco holt Nope Methinks the politicians dearly love that old cash cow N'esy Pas?
Murray Brown
How about charging your
non-New Brunswick customers the same prices you charge New Brunswick
residents? That would be a start. Stop selling power cheaper to other
provinces, the states and industrial customers and charge them the same
rates you charge individuals within this province.
@Murray Brown Methinks common sense is not permitted within the domain of NB Power N'esy Pas?
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