Thursday, 26 January 2023

Trudeau will host premiers Feb. 7 to hammer out health-care funding deal

 


 

Trudeau will host premiers Feb. 7 to hammer out health-care funding deal

Ottawa has said it wants its investment to go beyond short-term fixes, deliver systemic change

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced that he will host a first ministers' meeting in Ottawa on Feb. 7 as his government looks to finalize a deal on health-care funding with the provinces.

Trudeau also signalled there likely will be separate bilateral deals with each province and territory to address the health issues that matter most to them.

The federal government and the provinces have been in protracted negotiations for months over an increase to the Canada Health Transfer (CHT).

The premiers have been demanding a face-to-face meeting with Trudeau to press him for a multibillion-dollar increase to the funding.

WATCH | Feds 'prepared to invest' in health care: Dominic LeBlanc

Feds heading into health-care funding talks 'prepared to invest': Dominic LeBlanc

18 hours ago
Duration 9:59
"We're prepared to invest additional resources, conscious of the fiscal situation of the government," Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic Leblanc told Power & Politics on Wednesday.

The federal government has said Trudeau would not meet with his provincial counterparts until officials had negotiated some of the finer points of a deal.

"Let's be clear — providing money is certainly part of the solution. But funding alone won't solve the issues we're seeing. Canadians need to see improvements, better results and outcomes," Trudeau said Wednesday at an event at the McMaster Automotive Resource Centre in Hamilton, Ont.

Trudeau said while Canadians are rightly proud of the medicare system there's no question it needs some support.

In recent months, some emergency rooms have been shuttered because of a staffing crunch, a labour shortage that has compromised the quality of care in some jurisdictions. 

Trudeau's decision to hold a meeting with premiers signals a deal could soon be in hand — but there are still some sticking points that need to be resolved, said federal sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. 

The provinces have been demanding a big cash injection to support a system that has been undermined by COVID-19 and labour shortages.

Ottawa has said it wants its investment to go beyond short-term fixes to deliver lasting change to a system that faces a multitude of challenges — in primary care, mental health, long-term care, virtual care and data collection.

"There's so many things we need to do and we'll be doing them together," Trudeau said.

"We'll be rolling our sleeves and talking about what we're proposing for the path forward for health care in this country. We need to build a system that Canadians are going to be able to rely on to deliver results for them for years to come."

WATCH | Premiers want federal share of health-care funding bumped to 35 per cent

Premiers want federal share of health-care funding bumped up to 35 per cent

18 hours ago
Duration 7:02
"We're asking for that bottom line funding for the Canada Health Transfer to increase up to 35 per cent because it allows for us as provinces and territories to decide what is the priority within our own jurisdictions," Manitoba Premier Heather Stefanson told Power & Politics on Wednesday.

Trudeau said he's not expecting a final deal will materialize after a single meeting — "We won't be signing deals at that particular moment," he said — but the meeting is a chance to discuss some of the stumbling blocks and craft language on how provinces will share data with Ottawa.

The federal government is insisting that patient data be more widely shared. 

Ottawa wants this data so that it can better track health-care performance and outcomes. They also want data to shared more efficiently between primary doctors, pharmacists, specialists and the hospital system.

Trudeau also said there will be bilateral talks on the sidelines of the Feb. 7 summit, which will offer opportunities to craft province-specific deals.

Trudeau said every province has unique needs. B.C., for example, is asking for separate funding for community health — including home support and seniors care — and mental health and addiction. Other provinces, facing a severe shortage of family doctors in some places, are seized with the issue of primary care.

Asked about the specifics of the pending agreement, Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said Ottawa will keep what it's offering the provinces under wraps until the deal is done.

"Out of respect for the work that we need to do with the provinces, we'll obviously maintain an appropriate degree of discretion as to how exactly that support will be provided to them," Duclos told reporters at the cabinet retreat.

WATCH: Federal ministers welcome health care meeting with premiers

Federal ministers welcome health care meeting with premiers

22 hours ago
Duration 1:10
Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc and Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos say they are 'looking forward' to seeing premiers in Ottawa on Feb. 7th for a working meeting on health care.

Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc has been working the phones, speaking to premiers and senior government officials about a health deal. He said some provinces are "very enthusiastic about the idea of having flexible arrangements" through bilateral deals with Ottawa.

"The bilateral agreements will offer the flexibility to respond to the specific needs of each jurisdiction," he said.

Premiers looking for funding increase

To help stabilize the system, the premiers have been asking Ottawa to dramatically increase how much it spends each year on the CHT — the block of money sent by the federal government to the provinces and territories to fund health services.

The premiers want Ottawa to increase its share of health-care costs from the current 22 per cent to 35 per cent.

The federal Liberal government has said the 22 per cent figure doesn't reflect the whole funding picture.

In 1977, some tax points were transferred from Ottawa to the provinces, which allowed them to collect a larger share of all tax revenues to fund social programs like health care. Those tax points, Ottawa argues, should count for something.

News of a meeting follows positive comments from some cabinet ministers, who've told reporters at the federal cabinet retreat in Hamilton this week that there's been meaningful progress on a deal to prop up a faltering health-care system.

While Duclos has had a testy relationship with his provincial counterparts during these talks, he signalled this week that there's been a breakthrough.

The federal government has insisted that the provinces earmark any new funds for five priority areas: reducing surgery backlogs, enhancing primary care, expanding mental health services, fixing long-term care homes and "modernizing" the system through better virtual care and data-sharing between the provinces and Ottawa.

Seeking flexibility

Some provinces, notably Quebec, have balked at the federal conditions.

However, as public pressure mounts for politicians to act, some of that opposition has become much more muted.

Quebec Premier François Legault, for example, said last week he'd be willing to share health-care data with the federal government in exchange for more cash.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford has said the issue for his province isn't Ottawa's proposed conditions but rather the dollar amount.

"That's the least of our issues. Do we want a little bit of flexibility? Yeah, and I think they're willing to do that," Ford said of the Liberal government.

Duclos said there's now much less tension between Ottawa and the provinces.

"There is significant goodwill. We all serve the same people for the same purposes from the same dollars coming from the same pockets. So, we are increasingly aligned," Duclos said. "I am hopeful we will get to an agreement quite soon."

He said all sides are cognizant of "the pain many of our loved ones go through" when navigating a system that has been hobbled by COVID-19.

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Attn NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. RE My right to Health Care I got a call yesterday at about 4 PM from private number claiming to speak for YOU True or False??

 

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Hello,

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Regards,  

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Bonjour,

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Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 4:48 PM
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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David Amos

<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 4:48 PM
To: Charles.Murray@gnb.ca, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "Ginette.PetitpasTaylor" <Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>, ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com, "Frank.McKenna" <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca, "andrea.anderson-mason" <andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>, kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Jolene.harvey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Bill.Blair" <Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore" <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, "rob.moore" <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, "John.Williamson" <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, "Furey, John" <john.furey@mcinnescooper.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:14:18 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Attn NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. RE My right to Health Care I
got a call yesterday at about 4 PM from private number claiming to
speak for YOU True or False??
To: advocate-defenseur@gnb.ca
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 12:07:39 -0300
Subject: Attn NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. RE My right to Health Care I got a
call yesterday at about 4 PM from private number claiming to speak for
YOU True or False??
To: Norman.Bosse@gnb.ca, Charles.Murray@gnb.ca, "hugh.flemming"
<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "Ginette.PetitpasTaylor"
<Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>, ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com,
"Frank.McKenna" <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>,
David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca, "andrea.anderson-mason"
<andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>
, "Nathalie.Drouin"
<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Jolene.harvey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>

NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C.
Phone : (506) 453-2789
Fax : (506) 453-5599
Email : Norman.Bosse@gnb.ca


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Barbara Massey <Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 12:38:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Yo Mr Butts Are your ears burning? If not then you are
not reading the spin and the comments within CBC N'esy Pas? (Out of
Office )
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I will be away on duty until Sept. 13, 2019.  In my absence, you may
contact:
Jolene Harvey (Acting Sr. Gen. Counsel)  613 843 4892;
Jolene.harvey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca or my Exec. Asst. – Sandra Lofaro 613 843
3540; Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca.

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Je serai absente en mission jusqu'au 13 sept.,  2019.  Pendant mon
absence, vous pouvez communiquer avec Jolene Harvey (Avocate gén.
princ.) au  613 843 4892; Jolene.harvey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ou avec mon adj.
exéc. - Sandra Lofaro 613 843 3540; Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca.



---------- Original message ----------
From: Kevin Leahy <kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:38:43 -0400
Subject: Re: RE The call from the Boston cop Robert Ridge (857 259
9083) on behalf of the VERY corrupt Yankee DA Rachael Rollins
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

French will follow

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 11:55:57 -0400
Subject: Re the CBA, the RCMP, Federal Court File # T-1557-15 and the
Hearing before the Federal Court of Appeal on May 24th 2017
To: ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
"bob.paulson" <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>, "bill.pentney"
<bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, Mordaith
<Mordaith@gmail.com>, "leanne.murray"
<leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>,
"Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "nick.moore"
<nick.moore@bellmedia.ca>, "jeremy.keefe"
<jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
"Gilles.Blinn" <Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca>, sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch
<jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"Larry.Tremblay" <Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>, "luc.labonte"
<luc.labonte@gnb.ca>

As I told the RCMP who called me last month the proper time and place
to discuss the CBA and your former partner Judge Richard Bell is the
Federal Court of Canada

Raymond G. Adlington Partner
McInnes Cooper
1300-1969 Upper Water St., Purdy's Wharf Tower II PO Box 730, Stn. Central
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2V1
Phone: (902) 444-8470
Fax: (902) 425-6350
E: ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com

http://www.mcinnescooper.com/news/ray-adlington-named-to-cba-board-of-directors/

Ray Adlington named to CBA Board of Directors

    May 2, 2017

Halifax partner Ray Adlington was recently named to the CBA Board of Directors.

In their announcement yesterday the CBA advised that the board would
come into effect September 1st, 2017.

    After collecting extensive input over the past two years, we know
that CBA members believe it’s important for the organization to have a
Board of Directors that reflects the diversity of the legal
profession, including a mix of practice types, experience, skills,
geography and more.
    Our new Board of Directors exemplifies this principle.

The board is composed from one member from each province as well as
the CBA President.

Congratulations Ray on this well deserved appointment.





> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 16:15:59 -0400
> Subject: Hey Ralph Goodale perhaps you and the RCMP should call the
> Yankees Governor Charlie Baker, his lawyer Bob Ross, Rachael Rollins
> and this cop Robert Ridge (857 259 9083) ASAP EH Mr Prime Minister
> Trudeau the Younger and Donald Trump Jr?
> To: pm@pm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
> Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca, djtjr@trumporg.com,
> Donald.J.Trump@donaldtrump.com
, JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca,
> Frank.McKenna@td.com, barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> Douglas.Johnson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
, sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> gov.press@state.ma.us, bob.ross@state.ma.us, jfurey@nbpower.com,
> jfetzer@d.umn.edu, Newsroom@globeandmail.com, sfine@globeandmail.com,
> .Poitras@cbc.ca, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
> Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, news@kingscorecord.com,
> news@dailygleaner.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com,
> andre@jafaust.com>
> Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, DJT@trumporg.com
> wharrison@nbpower.com, David.Lametti@parl.gc.camcu@justice.gc.ca,
> Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca
>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Murray, Charles (Ombud)" <Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:16:15 +0000
>> Subject: You wished to speak with me
>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> I have the advantage, sir, of having read many of your emails over the
>> years.
>>
>>
>> As such, I do not think a phone conversation between us, and
>> specifically one which you might mistakenly assume was in response to
>> your threat of legal action against me, is likely to prove a
>> productive use of either of our time.
>>
>>
>> If there is some specific matter about which you wish to communicate
>> with me, feel free to email me with the full details and it will be
>> given due consideration.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Charles Murray
>>
>> Ombud NB
>>
>> Acting Integrity Commissioner
>>
>>
>>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos,
>>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
>>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
>>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
>>> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
>>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
>>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
>>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>>>
>>> Department of Justice
>>>
>>> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
>>>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>>>>
>>>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
>>>> ilian.html
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>>>
>>>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>>>
>>>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>>>> cards?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>>>>> 6
>>>>>
>>>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>>>
>>>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>>>
>>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>>>> United States Senate
>>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>>>> tapes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very truly yours,
>>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Good Day Sir
>>>>
>>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>>
>>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>>
>>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>>
>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>>>
>>>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>>>
>>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>>>
>>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>>>
>>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>>
>>>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>>
>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>>
>>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>>
>>>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>>
>>>> Date: 20151223
>>>>
>>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>>
>>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>>
>>>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>>
>>>> BETWEEN:
>>>>
>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>>
>>>> Plaintiff
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>>
>>>> Defendant
>>>>
>>>> ORDER
>>>>
>>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>>
>>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>>> in its entirety.
>>>>
>>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>>>> he stated:
>>>>
>>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>>
>>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>>> Police.
>>>>
>>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>>
>>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>>> Judge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>>
>>>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>>
>>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>>> most
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>>>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>>>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>>>> dudes are way past too late
>>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>>
>>>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Merci ,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>>
>>>> January 13, 2015
>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>>
>>>> December 8, 2014
>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>>
>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>>
>>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>>
>>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>>
>>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>>
>>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>>
>>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>>
>>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>>
>>>> January 30, 2007
>>>>
>>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>>
>>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>>
>>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>>
>>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>>> Minister of Health
>>>>
>>>> CM/cb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>>
>>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>>
>>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>>
>>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>>
>>>>  Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>>
>>>

 

 

Automatic reply: Attn NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. RE My right to Health Care I got a call yesterday at about 4 PM from private number claiming to speak for YOU True or False??

   

Ministerial Correspondence Unit - Justice Canada

<mcu@justice.gc.ca>
Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:07 PM
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:07 PM
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Merci d’avoir écrit à l’honorable Ralph Goodale, ministre de la Sécurité publique et de la Protection civile.

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Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca

<Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>
AttachmentMon, Apr 16, 2018 at 9:58 AM
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

On behalf of the Honourable Ginette Petitpas Taylor, I would like to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail dated April 14, 2018 and I thank you for writing.

 

As you can probably imagine, Ms. Petitpas Taylor receives a great deal of correspondence from people all across Canada and while she would like to reply to all of it, as the MP for Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe, her priority must be the concerns that are raised by her constituency.

 

Therefore, if you are a constituent of Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe, would you please provide your address including postal code and I will relay your concerns to the MP accordingly.

 

If you are not a constituent of Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe, as it is a custom and a courtesy to allow each Member to assist their own constituents, I would invite you to share your concerns directly with your local MP’s office.

 

Should you wish to contact Ms. Petitpas Taylor with comments or suggestions relating to her role as Minister of Health you may do so by e-mail at HCMinister.MinistreSC@canada.ca.

 

Respectfully yours,

Patti

 

Patti Trites

Executive Assistant/Adjointe exécutive

The Hon./l’hon. Ginette Petitpas Taylor, P.C./c.p.

Member of Parliament/députée

Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe

Constituency Office/Bureau de circonscription

272 rue St. George St., Suite 110

Moncton, NB E1C 1W6

Tel/Tél: (506) 851-4987 Fax/Téléc.: (506) 851-3273

David Amos

<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 3:20 PM
To: "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, Benoit.Bourque@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com, "victor.boudreau" <victor.boudreau@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Roger.L.Melanson" <Roger.L.Melanson@gnb.ca>, "Cathy.Rogers" <Cathy.Rogers@gnb.ca>, "Pam.Lynch" <Pam.Lynch@gnb.ca>, "Bertrand.LeBlanc" <Bertrand.LeBlanc@gnb.ca>, "Ginette.PetitpasTaylor" <Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, yogi709@icloud.com, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>


Ricky Gautreau - 2018 PCNB Candidate/candidat Kent S.
yogi709@icloud.com
Call (506) 525-2154

http://www.greenpartynb.ca/kent_south

Alain Roussell
1009 Saint-Maurice road
Saint-Maurice, NB
E4S 5E6
(506) 743-5212

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:14:32 +0000
Subject: RE: Perhaps Bill Morneau and the current Ministers of Health
Benoît Bourque and Ginette Petitpas Taylor will explain to all why the
Crown in New Brunswick will not give a homeless man Health Care Card
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.



I know that Billy Morneau the wealthy dude who oversees all of
Canada's financea knows we can afford such a simple thing that ALL
Canadain citizens are entitled to be they homeless or not.

Mr Morneau brags of his wonderful life while his cohorts appear to
wish that mine be miserable and short.


YO Thomas Walkom trust that I am judging Bill Morneau by what he does
NOT do and not by what he owns. I am also judging you. The Tornonto
Star is a publicly held company which has been duly informed of my
concerns since 2004 correct?

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2017/10/30/judge-bill-morneau-for-what-he-does-not-what-he-owns-walkom.html

Judge Bill Morneau for what he does, not what he owns: Walkom

It's the content of what the finance minister does not his alleged
conflict of interest in doing it that matters.


Thomas Walkom writes on political economy. The winner of two national
newspaper awards (foreign reporting and column writing), he was the
Star’s Queen’s Park columnist for eight years. He has a PhD in
economics from the University of Toronto and is author of "Rae Days:
the rise and follies of the NDP, a book on Ontario’s first New
Democratic Party government." Reach him at 416-869-4570.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:36:06 +0000
Subject: RE: More fuel for the fire Here are Doctors wondering Why Do
Patients Stop Dying When Doctors Go on Strike?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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On 11/19/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> Methinks the "Powers That Be" are serious when they call us old folks
> useless eaters N'esy Pas Serge Rouselle?
>
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/slightly-blighty/201510/why-do-patients-stop-dying-when-doctors-go-strike
>
> Why Do Patients Stop Dying When Doctors Go on Strike?
> Can psychology explain our surprise at mortality decreases when doctors'
> strike?
> Raj Persaud, M.D. and Peter Bruggen, M.D.
> Posted Oct 17, 2015
>
> Doctors in the U.K. are considering whether to strike over proposed
> changes in their contracts, and they are marching in London as part of
> the protest. What's the likely impact of withdrawing medical care on
> the health of the nation? Physicians seem to be gambling that the
> government doesn't want to alarm the electorate.
>
> But when doctors strike, the scientific research shows that patients stop
> dying.
>
> The most comprehensive review of the medical impact of doctors'
> strikes is published in the prestigious academic journal Social
> Science and Medicine. A team lead by Solveig Cunningham and Salim
> Yusuf at Emory and Georgetown Universities in the U.S. and McMaster
> University in Canada, analysed five physician strikes around the
> world, all between 1976 and 2003.
>
> Doctors withdrew their labour, in the different strikes analysed, from
> between nine days and 17 weeks. Yet all the different studies report
> population mortality either stays the same, or even decreases, during
> medical strikes. Not a single study found death rates increased during
> the weeks of the strikes, compared to other times.
>
> For example, in a strike in Los Angeles County, California in January
> 1976, doctors went on strike in protest over soaring medical
> malpractice insurance premiums. For five weeks, approximately 50% of
> doctors in the county reduced their practice and withheld care for
> anything but emergencies. One analysis, quoted by Cunningham and
> colleagues, found the strike may have actually prevented more deaths
> than it caused.
>
> The study entitled, "Doctors' strikes and mortality: A review,"
> suggests that it's the fact that elective, or non-emergency surgery,
> tends to stop during a doctors' strike, which seems to be the key
> factor. It looks like a surprising amount of mortality occurs
> following this kind of procedure which disappears when elective
> surgery ceases due to doctors withdrawing their labour. Mortality
> declined steadily from week one (21 deaths/100,000 population) to
> weeks six (13) and seven (14), when mortality rates were lower than
> the averages of the previous five years.
>
> However, as soon as elective surgery resumed, there was a rise in
> deaths. There were 90 more deaths associated with surgery for the two
> weeks following the strike in 1976 (ie when doctors went back to work)
> than there had been during the same period in 1975.
> article continues after advertisement
>
> But, unlike Los Angeles, what about the impact of doctors' industrial
> action where the majority of doctors participate, and the strike lasts
> several months?
>
> Cunningham and colleagues report on a strike in Jerusalem from 2 March
> to 26 June 1983 due to a salary dispute between the government and the
> Israel Medical Association. 8000 of Jerusalem's 11,000 physicians
> refused to treat patients inside hospitals, though many of them set up
> separate aid stations where they treated emergency cases for a fee.
>
> One analysis examined death certificates from several months
> surrounding the strike period, 16 February-3 September 1983, and from
> a control period the previous year, 17 February-3 September 1982.
> Mortality did not increase during or after the strike, even when
> elective surgery resumed.
> Raj Persaud
> Source: Raj Persaud
>
> The pre-strike deaths for the control period and the strike period
> were identical at 89; there were six fewer deaths during the strike
> than during the control period, while in the ten weeks following the
> strike, there were seven more deaths than there had been in 1982.
>
> In an example of how a doctor's strike can backfire, the authors of
> this particular mortality analysis argued this apparent lack of impact
> of the strike on mortality suggests that there was an over-supply of
> doctors in Jerusalem at the time. The problem with drawing conclusions
> remains that the strike did not involve the whole scale deprivation of
> medical services.
>
> Cunningham and colleagues point out in their review paper that
> striking physicians opened aid stations, supplementing medical care
> and preventing people from mobbing the hospitals. While physicians
> were technically on strike during the four months of the dispute, most
> did not in fact adhere to the industrial action regulations. In truth,
> most doctors in Jerusalem provided care in a private or partially
> private context, so, while participating in spirit, they did not
> actually withdraw services.
> article continues after advertisement
>
> Another intriguing study analysed changes in mortality by studying the
> Jerusalem Post's newspaper reports of funerals during another
> Jerusalem doctors' strike, this time between March and June of 2000.
> This one arose from the Israel Medical Association's conflict with the
> government's proposed wages. The hospitals in the area cancelled all
> elective admissions and surgeries, but kept emergency rooms and other
> vital departments, such as dialysis units and oncology departments,
> open.
>
> The funeral study found a decline in the number of funerals during the
> three months of the strike, compared with the same months of the
> previous three years. One burial society reported 93 funerals during
> one month of the strike (May 2000) compared with 153 in May 1999, 133
> in May of 1998, and 139 in May 1997.
>
> Cunningham and colleagues summarise their review of research assessing
> the effects of doctors' strikes on mortality, finding that four of the
> seven studies report mortality dropped as a result of medical
> industrial action, and three observed no significant change in
> mortality during the strike or in the period following.
> Raj Persaud
> Source: Raj Persaud
>
> There are several possible interpretations for this surprising
> finding. One is that as its elective or non-emergency surgery which is
> usually most effected in a doctor's strike, it could be the mortality
> findings reflect an impact of elective surgery. The findings might be
> important because they perhaps illuminate the relatively high risks of
> elective surgeries, which may actually increase mortality. If it
> wasn't for doctor's strikes, this might be a finding, ironically never
> otherwise properly highlighted.
> article continues after advertisement
>
> Another sobering possible conclusion is that the public, and perhaps
> doctors themselves, overestimate the ability of medicine to stave off
> or have an impact on mortality.
>
> However, Jonathan Gruber and Samuel Kleiner analysed the effects of
> nurses' strikes in hospitals on patient outcomes using nurses' strikes
> over the 1984 to 2004 period in New York State. The paper entitled,
> "Do Strikes Kill? Evidence from New York State," found nurses' strikes
> increase in-hospital mortality by 19.4% and 30-day readmission by 6.5%
> for patients admitted during a strike. The authors, from MIT and
> Carnegie Mellon University, conclude, in their paper published as
> National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper No. 15855, that
> hospitals during nurses' strikes are providing a lower quality of
> patient care.
>
> It would seem the public should worry much more about nurses going on
> strike compared to doctors, yet the irony is, nurses seem to earn a
> lot less than doctors.
>
> The problem with interpreting the data, on doctors’ strikes, as
> Cunningham and colleagues point out in their review paper, in all
> medical strikes studied so far, not all doctors down tools. In the
> 1976 Los Angeles strike only 50% of physicians were involved. So
> doctors' strikes don't necessarily drastically reduce access to health
> care. Given the purpose of most strikes is to deprive management of
> the worker's labour, and it's benefits, this raises the sobering
> question of how effective a doctors' strike can ever be in comparison
> to other occupations.
>
> The very difficulty in getting physicians to withdraw their labour in
> the way other occupations can do, hints at a fundamental difference
> between what it is to be a doctor, compared to pursuing other ways of
> making a living. A doctor, the research on strikes illuminates, isn't
> something you do, it's something you are. This issue of identity is
> why it's so much more difficult for doctors to simply discontinue
> practicing medicine. It's a character flaw prone to exploitation by
> governments and employers, effectively frustrating standard union
> tactics.
>
> The Minister of Health in the U.K., Jeremy Hunt, is opposing the
> doctors and their threats of industrial action; in a recent comment
> widely reported, he explains why the state wants to change doctors’
> contracts, apparently to provide more medical cover of hospitals at
> week-ends. He said: ‘…three times less medical cover at weekends as
> they (doctors) do in weeks and that means that there's a 15% greater
> chance of you dying if you are admitted on a Sunday, compared to being
> admitted on a Wednesday.’
>
> There is indeed something paradoxical about the data showing that
> being admitted to hospital when there are fewer doctors at week-ends
> leads to greater mortality, compared to the research on doctors’
> strikes.
> Raj Persaud
> Source: Raj Persaud
>
> Could it be that the way medicine and health care are organised,
> rather than simply having lots of doctors around, is the fundamental
> issue? The UK Government may have cleverly distracted attention away
> from the deep problems over how healthcare is managed in the UK, by
> highlighting instead the issue of forcing doctors to be present at
> week-ends.
>
> Yet another irony is that the data from doctors strikes themselves
> indicate the issue isn’t as simple as just deploying more doctors
> means lives get saved.
>
> But the outcome of the current conflict between doctors and their
> state employer in the U.K. may hinge on which side the electorate
> believes is genuinely most interested in looking after patients, as
> opposed to protecting their own interests.
>
> If doctors don’t all go on complete strike, even when it could be in
> their financial interests to do so, this may signal to the public who
> to trust on this one – their doctors or their politicians.
>
> Another theory as to why patients live longer when doctors go on
> strike, is that the profession finally shakes off the shackles of its
> employer's restrictive practices, and returns, albeit temporarily, to
> practicing medicine freely, as it would really like to.
>
> And perhaps, that's actually the most effective sort of industrial
> action doctors can ever take.
>
> Follow Dr Raj Persaud on Twitter: www.twitter.com/@DrRajPersaud
>
> Raj Persaud and Peter Bruggen are joint podcast editors for the Royal
> College of Psychiatrists and also now have a free app on iTunes and
> Google Play store entitled ‘Raj Persaud in conversation’, which
> includes a lot of free information on the latest research findings in
> mental health, plus interviews with top experts from around the world.
>
> Download it free from these links:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rajpersaud.android.raj...
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dr-raj-persaud-in-conversation/id9274662...
>
> http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/MEDICAL_ETHICS_TEXT/Chapter_3_Moral_Climate_of_Health_Care/Reading-Death-Rate-Doctor-Strike.htm
>
>
> Chapter 3: The Moral Climate of Health Care
>
> Section. 6 Reading
>
>
>                Death Rate Drops During Doctor Strike
> http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surgery.com/data/articles/67.htm
> The June 10, 2000 issue of the British Medical journal reports on an
> interesting statistic that has occurred in Israel. It seems that three
> months ago physicians in public hospitals implemented a program of
> sanctions in response to a labor dispute over a contract proposal by
> the government.  The article stated that the Israel Medical
> Association began an action in March to protest against the treasurys
> proposed imposition of a new four year wage contract for doctors.
> Since then, the medical doctors have cancelled hundreds of thousands
> of visits to outpatient clinics and have postponed tens of thousands
> of elective operations.
>
> To find out whether the industrial action was affecting deaths in the
> country, the Jerusalem Post interviewed non-profit making Jewish
> burial societies, which perform funerals for the vast majority of
> Israelis.  Hananya Shahor, the veteran director of Jerusalems Kehilat
> Yerushalayim burial society said, "The number of funerals we have
> performed has fallen drastically."  Meir Adler, manager of the Shamgar
> Funeral Parlour, which buries most other residents of Jerusalem,
> declared with much more certainty: "There definitely is a connection
> between the doctors sanctions and fewer deaths. We saw the same thing
> in 1983 when the Israel Medical Association applied sanctions for four
> and a half months."
>
> In response Avi Yisraeli, director general of the Hadassah Medical
> Organization, offered his own explanation, "Mortality is not the only
> measure of harm to health."  He goes on to say that, "Elective surgery
> can bring about a great improvement in a patients condition, but it
> can also mean disability and death in the weakest patients."
>
>
>
> http://www.utopiasilver.com/emailtemp/articlepages/Doctor-Caused%20Disease.htm
>
> Silver Bulletin e-News Magazine
>
> Doctor-Caused Disease
> By Monte Kline
>
> One of the most common causes of disease (if not the most common
> cause) is conventional medical doctors! Sad, but too often true. The
> medical term coined to describe this problem is iatrogenic disease,
> from the Greek "iatros" meaning physician and "genesis" meaning
> origin. Thus we have doctor-caused disease.
>
> Specifically, iatrogenic disease is defined as:
> Any adverse reaction, either major or minor, to a medical or surgical
> treatment.
>
> The late Robert Mendelsohn, M.D., while Chairman of the Medical
> Licensing Committee for the State of Illinois and Associate Professor
> of Preventive Medicine and Community Health at the University of
> Illinois School of Medicine, wrote:
>
> . . . the greatest danger to your health is the doctor who practices
> Modern Medicine. I believe that Modern Medicine's treatments for
> disease are seldom effective, and that they're often more dangerous
> than the diseases they're designed to treat . . . I believe that more
> than 90% of Modern Medicine could disappear from the face of the
> earth-doctors, hospital, drugs, and equipment-and the effect on our
> health would be immediate and beneficial.
>
> DOCTORS ON STRIKE
>
> Whenever medical doctors go on strike, a most interesting phenomenon
> occurs - death rates go down! In 1976 in Bogota, Columbia medical
> doctors went on strike for 52 days, with only emergency care
> available. The death rate dropped by 35%. In 1976 in Los Angeles
> County a similar doctors' strike resulted in an 18% drop in mortality.
> As soon as the strike was over, the death rate went back to normal. A
> 50% decrease in mortality occurred in Israel in 1973 when there was a
> one month doctor's strike!
>
> HEALTH CARE CUTBACKS
>
> Since the early 1980's we've heard a lot about the impact of "managed
> care" and health care cutbacks. Medical doctors and political liberals
> are screaming that people are dying for lack of services. Actually,
> just the opposite is true. Since the "downsizing" of conventional
> medical services in the 1980's, life expectancy has made a massive
> jump both in the U. S. and Canada. No drug therapy and surgical
> technique can be shown to have statistically increased the general
> life expectancy. No generation has had its life expectancy increased
> significantly since medical doctors began using chemical treatments.
> Researchers John and Sonja McKinlay found that medical intervention
> only accounted for 1 - 3.5% of the increase in the average lifespan in
> the U. S. since 1900.
>
> DANGEROUS DRUGS
>
> Alternative cancer treatment authority, Dr. Ralph Moss, notes that a
> 1999 article in The Journal of The American Medical Association stated
> that prescription drugs kill over 100,000 people per year in U. S.
> hospitals. The F.D.A. noted that back in 1978 1.5 million Americans
> were hospitalized as a result of taking medical drugs. One in seven
> hospital beds is taken up by patients suffering from adverse drug
> reactions. The General Accounting Office stated that 51.5% of all
> drugs introduced between 1976 and 1985 had to be relabelled because of
> serious adverse reactions found after the marketing of these drugs -
> reactions like heart, liver or kidney failure, birth defects, blood
> disorders, respiratory arrest, seizures, and blindness.
>
> DRUG COMPANY BRIBERY
>
> Most people are not aware that drugs companies spend thousands of
> dollars per year on each medical doctor "selling" them on using their
> particular products. Drug companies hire "detail men" to visit
> physicians' offices and give them drug samples. These salesmen, who
> are not doctors and have no medical or pharmacological training, tell
> your medical doctor what drugs to use for what problems. Drug
> companies start this process early by offering medical students gifts,
> free trips to "conferences," and free "educational material," which
> translated means propaganda on that drug company's products. In
> Australia drug companies spend an average of $10,000 per year per
> physician marketing their products. The result of all of this is a
> massive overprescribing of drugs.
>
> The drug companies don't stop with just practicing M.D.s, though, but
> also direct major dollars toward hospitals, medical schools and
> supposedly "independent" research institutes. Medical schools, for
> example, are given grants for clinical trials, pharmaceutical
> research, or even buildings. These companies have sought to gain
> massive influence over medical teaching institutions by spreading
> their money around. Dr. Alan Levin, Adjunct Associate Professor of
> Immunology and Dermatology at the University of California states:
>
> Pharmaceutical companies, by enlisting the aid of influential academic
> physicians, have gained control of the practice of medicine in the
> United States. They now set the standards of practice by hiring
> investigators to perform studies which establish the efficacy of their
> products or impugn that of their competitors. . .
>
> HAZARDS OF HOSPITALIZATION
>
> Hospitals are a hotbed of iatrogenic disease. Every year two million
> people are admitted to hospitals with one health problem and end up
> with another health problem! According to Dr. Mendelsohn these
> doctor-caused illnesses kill as many as 20,000 people annually. A
> study in the Southern Medical Journal reported that one in five
> patients admitted to a university hospital acquires an iatrogenic
> disease, and one in thirty of these lead to death. Of these iatrogenic
> deaths, half are complications of drug therapy and 10% result from
> improper diagnostic procedures.
> Another study of 815 consecutive patients in a university hospital
> over an eight month period found that 36% had a disease caused by
> their doctor - in 2% of the cases the iatrogenic disease was believed
> to be a cause of the patient's death.
>
> If you project that figure out, assuming 2% of all hospital patients
> die from an iatrogenic disease, you get 700,000 hospital/doctor-caused
> deaths per year - one third of all deaths!
>
> HOSPITAL INFECTIONS
>
> In the 1840's Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis directed a teaching hospital in
> Vienna, where 75% of the women giving birth were dying of puerperal
> fever. He observed that doctors went from dissecting cadavers to
> delivering babies without washing their hands. Dr. Semmelweis made the
> "radical" policy change of requiring doctors to wash their hands
> before delivery a baby. An amazing thing happened - the mortality rate
> drop fifteen-fold. Unfortunately, his arrogant colleagues couldn't see
> the connection, so they dismissed him and ostracized him. The
> rejection ultimately drove Semmelweis to death in an insane asylum -
> another great moment in the history of iatrogenic disease.
>
> But doctors are enlightened nowadays about sanitation, aren't they? A
> 1981 study of washing habits in intensive care units found that only
> 28% of the doctors washed between patients in a teaching hospital and
> only 14% washed in the private hospital! Dr. Mendelsohn noted:
>
> . . . the sanitary practices of the medical personnel are often
> abominable and the hospital itself is probably the most germ-laden
> facility in town.
>
> Your chances of getting an infection in the hospital are one in 20
> with 15,000 people dying annually from hospital-acquired infections.
>
> SURGERY
>
> Dr. Arthur Mannix, Jr. declared in an article in the New York State
> Journal of Medicine:
>
> Errors in judgment or technique concerning either the anesthesia or
> the surgery, or a combination of the two, contribute to close to 50%
> of the deaths in the operating room.
>
> I think what that translates to is that disease is only responsible
> for 50% of the deaths on the operating table, while doctors are
> responsible for the other 50% of deaths.
> The McCarthy-Widmer study in the New England Journal of Medicine noted
> the following:
>
> 1. 20% of all surgery is unnecessary.
> 2. This unnecessary surgery costs consumers over $3 billion per year.
> 3. There are 2.4 million unnecessary operations annually.
> 4. This unnecessary surgery results in 12,000 unnecessary deaths each year.
>
> Another study showed that when a second specialist was consulted, 18%
> of the time he disagreed with doing the surgery.
> Hysterectomies are the most common operation today with nearly one
> million done per year. In six New York hospitals 43% of their
> hysterectomies were found on review to have been unjustified. Women
> with abnormal bleeding from the uterus or heavy menstrual blood flow
> were given the operation though other treatments or none at all would
> probably have worked as well.
>
> PROTECTING YOURSELF FROM DOCTORS
>
> "Doctors in general should be treated with about the same degree of
> trust as used car salesmen."
> - Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.
>
> 1. Caveat emptor - "Let the buyer beware." Don't assume your doctor
> knows everything, or that he or she necessarily knows what's best for
> you. Use your doctor like your lawyer or CPA - someone to give you
> counsel with you making the final decision.
>
> 2. Don't panic with sickness - Sickness is an opportunity to learn
> about your body's needs and to seek God's direction. Remember the
> story of King Asa in the Old Testament who died because he only sought
> the physicians instead of first seeking the Lord for his illness (II
> Chron. 16:12).
>
> 3. Avoid treating symptoms - There would be little iatrogenic disease
> if people were not so intent on treating symptoms. Instead you must
> get down to root causes, which usually means lifesytle change.
>
> 4. Don't "quick fix" pain - Get over the idea that pain is something
> that has to be immediately eliminated at any cost. That view
> encourages a lot of symptom treatment and resulting drug iatrogenesis.
> Pain is a warning that something's wrong. Again, seek to fix the
> underlying cause and that will fix the pain.
>
> 5. Seek appropriate health care services - The old saying says: Never
> ask a barber if you need a haircut. Don't expect anything but a
> prescription drug for symptoms when you go to a medical doctor. If you
> want to deal with underlying causes, go to the appropriate natural
> medicine doctor. Of course, if you have an emergency situation or some
> type of acute problem, conventional medicine is best equipped to deal
> with that.
>
> 6. Stimulate natural healing, don't sabotage it - Symptom treatments,
> like the frequent use of antibiotics, destroy your natural immunity,
> and thus open the door for more iatrogenic problems. Focus on
> detoxifying, correcting nutrient deficiencies, allergic desensitizing,
> and exercise to free up your body to heal itself.
>
> Contributed by Tony Isaacs
>
>
>
> When doctors go on strike does the death rate go down?
> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2741/when-doctors-go-on-strike-does-the-death-rate-go-down
>
> January 4, 2008
> Dear Cecil:
>
> Hi, Cecil. I have come across a number of seemingly credible reports
> suggesting that every time doctors go on strike the overall death rate
> goes down, in some cases quite precipitously. Can you ascertain if
> this in fact is the case or if some other factors are at work here?
>
> — Jacob
>
> As we'll see below, Jacob, it's not really so surprising that
> mortality statistics sometimes show a drop during a doctors' strike.
> What's staggering is that a reasonable person could see such stats and
> for even an instant think: Holy crap, those doctors are killing us.
> Sure, there'll always be a few alternative-medicine fringe dwellers
> who genuinely see the medical establishment as some sinister cabal
> presiding over a high-density feedlot of human misery. But the way
> this "fact" about doctors' strikes gets passed around suggests that a
> lot more people are a little more nuts than you'd want to imagine.
>
> No one's suggesting that changes in the availability of doctors
> wouldn't affect what happens to their patients in the short term - a
> study from last May, for instance, found that in both Australia and
> the U.S. birth rates decreased from 1 to 4 percent on days when
> OB/GYNs held their annual conferences. But looking over the data on
> doctors' strikes, it's hard to see where the MDs are saving many lives
> by staying out of the OR:
>
> One example often cited is that of a monthlong strike by Los Angeles
> County physicians in 1976, during which the mortality rate for
> patients was seen to drop by 18 percent. But a 1979 study in the
> American Journal of Public Health showed that the overall area death
> rate remained unchanged, as enough personnel remained on duty to
> handle the real emergencies. Any seeming benefit to patients' health
> likely resulted from about 11,000 fewer operations (presumably
> elective) being performed that month than was typical, meaning that an
> estimated 50 to 150 patients who could have been expected to die
> didn't.
>
> A four-month Israeli doctors' strike in 1983 was found to have some
> definable effects on public health - the percentage of cesarean
> sections increased somewhat, and one study suggested hypertension
> patients might have received worse treatment - but no observed impact
> on mortality. Nonetheless, the popular wisdom saw the work stoppage as
> a disaster: a detailed study of public perceptions afterward found
> that nearly one in four urgent-care patients (or their relatives) felt
> the strike had resulted in major health problems.
>
> A 1984 doctors' strike in Varkaus, Finland, mainly meant fewer visits
> for colds and stomachaches; no significant harmful effects to the
> public were seen, researchers found, and the uptick in visits after
> the doctors returned to work suggested that patients were glad to have
> them back.
>
> Another key example used to support the proposition that fewer doctors
> means fewer deaths comes from a June 2000 article in the British
> Medical Journal written during another Israeli strike; the author
> reported that in the three months after doctors walked out death rates
> fell significantly in affected cities. However, her data was by no
> means the result of a scientific study but consisted mostly of
> anecdotal reports from funeral home directors, who claimed they'd seen
> "the same thing in 1983." What is known is that, as in the LA strike,
> many thousands of elective surgeries were postponed but emergency
> rooms and chronic care departments remained open.
>
> In 2003 a SARS outbreak closed four hospitals in Toronto, and all
> non-emergency services were suspended. Among other things, this led to
> the canceling of a quarter to a half of joint-replacement surgeries,
> 40 percent of cardiac surgeries, and as much as 93 percent of some
> outpatient procedures. The result? The greater Toronto area did see a
> slight dip in mortality rate relative to the prior two years, but so
> did the rest of Ontario, and the decrease wasn't statistically
> significant anyway.
> So despite media suggestions to the contrary, doctors' going on strike
> doesn't seem to have much effect on the death rate one way or the
> other, and any reduction seen is probably the result of postponed or
> canceled nonemergency surgeries. And that figures: any surgery is
> risky, and some common procedures (like coronary bypass or aneurysm
> repair) have a death rate you just can't ignore. But leaving the tummy
> tucks out of it, most elective surgeries boast a pretty serious
> payoff, either in quality-of-life improvement right now or in medical
> trouble avoided down the line. If 600 people die each year as a result
> of hip-replacement surgery, does that mean the 200,000-plus patients
> that pulled through were fools to go under the knife? You're welcome
> to calculate the odds however you like, and in certain cases it may
> well make sense to question the value of surgery. As a general
> proposition, though, if my health is on the line, I'm glad to hear
> that the doctor is in.
>
> — Cecil Adams
>
>
>
> On 11/19/17, Wlodzimierz Sokolowski <sowl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> Wlodzimierz Sokolowski MD, 101 Henderson St., Miramichi, New Brunswick,
>> E1N
>>
>> 2R8
>> Tel: 506, 773-9731 e-mail: sowl@nbnet.nb.ca
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3PNDvC-K0U   C LeBlanc & I on the
>> Youtube
>> .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mAkMDRYzTY  Bathurst NB  surgeon AB
>>
>>
>> Quoting George Orwell:  “If liberty means anything at all, it means the
>> right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
>> “Code of ethics stand as a promise to society about the integrity of the
>> profession in return for the power and authority given to the profession
>> by
>>
>> society.” (Kenny NP.)
>>
>> DOCTORS MURDERING PATIENTS.
>> Title of my dissertation is TERRORISTS' CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE CANADIAN
>> STATE ON THE LEVEL OF RURAL COMMUNITY IN NEW BRUNSWICK aimed to infringe
>> the
>>
>> SOCIAL fabric of the people living together, respecting themselves,
>> helping
>>
>> each other by allowing the foreigner far away from, who was given the
>> highest trust to pay you back by murdering his/her hosts.   In my opinion
>> it
>>
>> were the medico-legal gang guided by Komintern (foreign and communists)
>> agents implanted at the highest level of Canadian power structure,
>> Security
>>
>> and Intelligence Service (CSIS) and RCMP who  brainwashed doctors and
>> convinced the local quacks that murdering their own people to expose and
>> waste me an immigrant doctor was worth doing
>>
>> CUT to the THE CHASE
>> PHYSICIANS MURDERING PATIENTS, I am intending to make a note about.
>> "Physicians possess a unique opportunity to commit murder, both with
>> their
>> access to chemicals and their ability to sign a death certificate. . . "
>> James McGuire, Ph.D., New England Journal of Medicine, October 17, 2002,
>> Vol. 347, No. 16.
>> Privileges assigned to medical profession such as an access to
>> clients-patients intimate secrets of possible victims, a knowledge and a
>> right to use of potentially lethal poisons of many kinds, are great asset
>> for the  physician- assassin. It must be remembered that every medical
>> act
>> designed, invented, developed to help, to cure, to prevent could be
>> turned
>> into a deadly weapon. Physicians possess a unique opportunity to commit
>> murder, both with their access to chemicals, falsify documentation which
>> would become inaccessible due to THE so called medical records secrecy
>> provisions and their ability to sign falsified death certificates.
>> Anessthesiologists injecting potentially lethal drugs are in the first
>> line
>>
>> among those who could kill the patient. Therefore the old statement that
>> the
>>
>> operation was a great success, though the patient died is all the time
>> valid.
>> After four month of residency, sometime between February and April of
>> 1972,
>>
>> I was shown how to murder an older man abandoning a deeply anesthetized,
>> loaded with muscle relaxant client, whose belly was closed by the
>> surgeon.
>> The staff-man decided that he should be dead with an inoperable colon
>> cancer. The client did not die because I did not leave him, until he
>> started
>>
>> to breathe on his own.  During a summer's peek of 1972 I saw the man on a
>> porch playing with his grandchild.
>>
>> With Ontario license and ten month training in anesthesiology, I was
>> lured
>> to Hotel Dieu in Chatham   (NB), where no one had interviewed me before
>> being rendered all the physicians' privileges, but at the same time being
>> expected to fail instantly to be chased away in shame, deeply in debt.
>> Here was the dichotomy, one one side the anesthesiologists, at the
>> university teaching hospital, at Ottawa general Hospital by all means
>> were
>> encouraging me to go to a small hospital on the periphery of Canada where
>> the need for an up to date trained anesthesiologist was desperate and at
>> the
>>
>> same time branding me to be an impostor unable to function by himself,
>> absolutely alone, thus hurting or killing patients. Puppets of the
>> Bolshevik
>>
>> conspirators at the Catholic Mission Hospital Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB
>> were
>>
>> waiting for me.
>> I did not fail at Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB, though a line of patients
>> were
>> exposed to my anticipated inferior anesthesia service, expected to be
>> hurt
>> or killed.
>> Here was the point where typical Bolsheviks conspiracy started. First the
>> administrator, the leading doctors criminals and supporting them lawyers
>> were betting that I must fail as an anesthesiologist because I got only
>> ten
>>
>> months a formal training.
>> Leaders of Hotel Dieu were convinced that I am unable to measure up to
>> the
>> task and must fail delivering anesthesia, thus to hurt or kill the
>> patient.
>>
>> Weren't they terrorists? Would you hire for your own restaurant a cook
>> who
>> can hardly boil a water, or make your clients sick or poisoned? Would you
>> hire a teacher, about whom many heard that he is a pedophile, just to
>> test
>> him on the pupils you are responsible for, to get him/her expose their
>> predilections and only then to get him/her? Obviously one would do it
>> only
>> when the terrorists are at the helm.
>> For the first few days I was not given any work, did not do any
>> anesthesia.
>>
>> The conspirators were waiting until my family will arrive from Ottawa ON
>> having liquidated our nest there.
>> After three days a dentist was delegated to check me out. It was a
>> prominent
>>
>> individual, a veteran of WW2, who was overseas. The dentist knew that I
>> have
>>
>> to fail due to anticipated incompetence, and fiddling with potentially
>> lethal drugs could kill the client, a Canadian citizen, which he the
>> dentist
>>
>> was very reluctant to take part in. So he had chosen an American, a
>> medical
>>
>> doctor not practicing medicine but living as a hermit a in the bush
>> behind
>> the Trappist monastery in Rogersville NB.
>> I was prepared for a longer surgery, have intubated the client though the
>> nose, and the dentist had pulled only one tooth, obviously not a wisdom
>> tooth and in two minutes. was done with. The dentist knew w that in two
>> minutes. even the totally incompetent, moron anesthesiologist would have
>> difficulties to kill the patient.
>> After such a star I started to function as s an anesthesiologist and for
>> time being doctors criminals at Hotel Dieu took a brake, and did not try
>> to
>>
>> trip me. After few months, in the spring of 1974 I was invited to
>> Bathurst
>> NB to give surgeons a hand. First was urologist Dr. Murthy, whose client
>> I
>> had applied a spinal anesthesia making the urologist very happy.
>> However the conspirators did not give up and to make me go wrong and a
>> next
>>
>> time in Bathurst NB a senior surgeon (Dr.AB) treating me like a farm hand
>> told me, in a very bossy way, you are going to work with me today, you
>> will
>>
>> deliver anesthesia,” and ordered general anesthesia (GA): for a Ramsteadt
>> pyloromyotomy procedure,” for pyloric stenosis,  the client was a six -
>> eight weeks old boy. I delivered GA when the surgeon was faking the
>> surgery.
>>
>> The surgeon decided to whore his mission of a surgeon but he did not
>> knife
>> the infant letting me the anesthesiologist harm the infant.
>> Few months later an ENT doctor relocated from Bathurst NB expecting me to
>> deliver three, four hours GA for an ear drum transplant. Started with a
>> known person in Chatham NB, which was a brother of doctor Duffy. I did
>> not
>> have any difficulties with multiple, three to four hours lasting GA and
>> the
>>
>> ENT doctor left.
>> After this point doctors criminals at Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB and
>> backing
>> them up terrorists organizers decided to set me up to murder a patient.
>> However first we ought to purchase a house in a nice place extending our
>> property, to be taken over by a chosen locals after we were gone robbed
>> and
>>
>> in shame.  The time came  “to lose a case.”
>> This dirty job was for foreigners only. Chinese brought a Filipino, a
>> Turk
>> got the patient and I, a targeted for destruction, called by a surgeon a
>> fucken Pollack, tortured and murdered an innocent Canadian country widow
>> from Napan NB, Mrs. Susan Dickson on November 6, 1975, by injection
>> tampered
>>
>> with. Ten to twenty minutes after the murder of Susan Dickson Holet Dieu
>> in
>>
>> Chatham NB had called Maher a funeral directors to dup  STILL WARM BODY
>> OF
>> SUSAN DICKSON to be carried away. Only few minutes later Hotel Dieu had
>> called, a son of a murdered woman, Mr. Norman Dickson telling him that
>> his
>> mother had died. Norman Dickson ordered the Adams funeral directors to
>> collect the dead, but still warm, body of his mother. THE PROBLEM IS THAT
>> A
>>
>> STILL WARM BODY OF THE MURDERED AT THE HOSPITAL PATIENT WAS DUMPED ON THE
>> FUNERAL TRUCK TO BE CARRIED AWAY to MONCTON HOSPITAL  FOR AN ALLEGED
>> POSTMORTEM EXAMINATION.
>>
>> It was Mr. Norman Dickson the son of the murdered who demanded the
>> postmortem examination. It were neither the administrator nor the doctor
>> coroner in Chatham NB. There was no postmortem examination, the deceiving
>> maneuver was a brutal fraud but it was another criminal act because an
>> indignity to human body took place, when dragging a still warm body of a
>> just murdered patient to Moncton NB. It was another criminal act.
>> Criminal
>> Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46) Dead body
>> 182 Every one who
>> (a) neglects, without lawful excuse, to perform any duty that is imposed
>> on
>>
>> him by law or that he undertakes with reference to the burial of a dead
>> human body or human remains, or
>> (b) improperly or indecently interferes with or offers any indignity to a
>> dead human body or human remains, whether buried or not,
>> is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term
>> not
>>
>> exceeding five years.  Date modified: 2017-09-22
>> Being set up to be a true, executioner a killer of an innocent patient,
>> my
>> human dignity and professional integrity was gang raped by the doctors
>> who
>> arranged the premeditated murder and the lawyers who allowed them, could
>> be
>>
>> encouraged them and then vigorously covering the premeditated murder of
>> an
>> innocent Canadian citizen.
>>       I, the executioner had cried murder, demanding investigation and the
>> premeditated capital crime was swept under the rug and is still there. A
>> dozen of local nurses witnessed the slaying, knowing that they can do
>> nothing about it, not sacrificing the welfare of their families,
>> demoralized
>>
>> realizing that the Canadian law on Miramichi NB was a joke.
>> For the next twenty five years I was branded and treated as a silent
>> killer
>>
>> who is going to strike again when the time would be ripe.
>> Dr Sayat, the one who had arrived on the day of Susan Dickson's murder
>> was
>> leaving and another doctor was coming. It was another immigrant doctor
>> with
>>
>> full anesthetic credentials. He tried to hide the lethal poison in the
>> inhalable container. But I was vigilant enough and cut the dental
>> extractions short.
>> In the early eighties a man with the perforated appendix since good
>> number
>> of days, belly full of pus was kept in Newcastle Hospital for days
>> expecting
>>
>> an overflowing sepsis to kill him when I had left for a conference
>> abandoning the Hotel Dieu anesthesia cover where he was transferred. I
>> was
>> supposed to travel to PEI but I did not leave and the young man did not
>> die.
>>
>> The surgeon at the Old Miramichi Hospital who kept the patient with
>> perforated appendix, had learned that I knew what he did and he hated my
>> guts, at one point calling a fucken Pollack.
>> In 1977 when I was again only delivering anesthesia because the lady
>> doctor
>>
>> was busy delivering babies they brought a doctor locum UK from and I was
>> out
>>
>> of work cut off of any income from anesthesia. Being again and again
>> badly
>> humiliated I have turned to the administrator trying to inform her about
>> me
>>
>> leaving practice of anesthesiology altogether. I was told in a brutal way
>> that I was brought to Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB to deliver anesthesia and
>> not
>>
>> to be a GP (family physician) and if I don't like such an arrangement I
>> have
>>
>> to leave
>> In February of 1984 deposition to the police in Chatham NB and the
>> consequences.
>> In 1990 racket with Mel Dickson and switching off the respirator. Legally
>> committing a murder.
>> Provocation in OR in October of 1992 with the fentanyl syringe missing.
>>
>> In mid nineties Unexpected death after an elective surgery done in Hotel
>> Dieu with me as an anesthesiologist anchored in the Old Miramichi
>> Hospital
>> in Newcastle NB.
>>
>> In 1998 AA attempted to murder and I brutalized to surrender my family
>> practice to the doctor chosen by the registrar of the College of
>> Physicians
>>
>> and Surgeons of New Brunswick (CPSNB). This time the injectable
>> anesthetic
>> was again hidden in the pentothal. I suspect it was MIDAZOLAM (VERSET)
>> which
>>
>> kept the client five days unconscious and flaccid.
>> IN 1999 an old Acadian women, called by me “a lady with the hip,” blue
>> collar Newbrunswickers were expected to be killed by me a hidden
>> assassin.
>> These very people were tortured and murdered by NB doctors in order to
>> frame
>>
>> and annihilate me an immigrant physician and these doctors were enjoying
>> high social status, generously paid by NB Medicare, no questions asked.
>> My immigrant's life on Miramichi NB, was worse than it would have been at
>> Auschwitz death camp (1940-1945) have I had found myself there. Because
>> had
>>
>> I not survive Auschwitz I would have been an anonymous hero of holocaust,
>> had I survived I would be a hero to the end of my natural life, whereas
>> here
>>
>> on Miramichi NB my human dignity and professional integrity were gang
>> raped
>>
>> and afterward I was treated like a murdering whore, all the time
>> practicing
>>
>> anesthesiology in three local hospitals and during this time more murders
>> and attempted murders and completed on my account.
>> Spectacular premeditated homicide was to clinch the project happened on
>> June
>>
>> 15, 2001 and the victim was a blue collar Acadian Mr. Mark Oliver
>> Saulnier
>> 25, but the assassin was a wrong doctor.
>> Becoming a whistle-blower on June 24, 2001 I was tried to kill another
>> patient on June 25, 2001 (Monday) Mrs. Conell from Strathadam NB
>> Taking a civic stand, protesting a senseless murder of a patient, I was
>> wasted as a professional, fired by an accountant, ostracized by the
>> Miramichi NB medical community, not reported to the College of Physicians
>> and Surgeons of New Brunswick (CPSNB) instrumental in setting up the
>> premeditated murder and cover up. CPSNB refused to hear me and did not
>> challenge my medical diagnoses rejecting the due process.  Wasted as a
>> professional I was tried to be murdered at the Miramichi NB hospital
>> twice
>> first time in 2009, second in 2012.
>> Several times I was begging to have the murder of Susan Dickson
>> elucidated
>> and since fifteen years continuously repeating the same story, which if
>> not
>>
>> true must have been considered criminal scandalous, pestiferous,
>> vexatious
>> and frivolous and I should have been severely punished for fabricating
>> evidence. But I was neither interviewed nor cross examined by
>> distinguished
>>
>> peers of mine and their dignified lawyers even once. The famous Canadian
>> Doctor, William Osler, when teaching medicine preacahed to the medical
>> students: “Listen to the patient and he/she will tell you the diagnosis.”
>> The most basic tool in the practice of medicine, taking a good history
>> and
>> law, taken a thorough interview, was never used to diagnose my claim.
>> Medical doctors murderers, were backed up by the NB lawyers criminals,
>> elected politicians, unelected civil servants and municipal police force.
>> Many years lasting hard work of the doctors murderers, setting up
>> homicides
>>
>> and cover up the tortures and assassinations, were generously paid by
>> Medicare NB and by CMPA.
>> Biological weapon was used against me triggering Rheumatoid Arthritis.
>> During the active faze my left hip was busted and an orthopedic surgeon
>> was
>>
>> pointed to do the surgery, to be followed by an overwhelming sepsis a
>> result
>>
>> of a stab wound 2 cm to the rectum inflicted by a night nurse ten hours
>> prior to surgery.
>> Who needs death penalty in NB since we have good doctors ready to help
>> and
>> Medicare NB will pay for the trouble.
>> During our stay in Canada the Polish Bolsheviks' security UB/SB knew all
>> the
>>
>> details about our whereabouts in Canada and their agents stayed in touch
>> visiting us few times. Most probably Polish UB/SBs conceived an idea of
>> murdering innocent Canadians to eliminate the traitor, but the Canadian
>> securities agencies using Canadian doctors were cooperating supplying
>> corpses.
>> Leaders of the Canadian medical profession are poorly educated in
>> humanities, ignorant in philosophy of medicine, liars, robbers, ethical
>> imbeciles, socially irresponsible cowards, arrogant racists easily
>> brainwashed, betraying the ethos of occidental medicine and keeping in
>> deep
>>
>> contempt the Code of Ethics of the CMA and WMA Declaration of Geneva
>> 1948.
>> “Code of ethics stand as a promise to society about the integrity of the
>> profession in return for the power and authority given to the profession
>> by
>>
>> society.” (Kenny NP.)
>>
>> “Fiat justitia, ruat caelum” “Let justice be done though the heavens
>> fall”
>> “Indifference is an act of complicity.”
>> "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their
>> neutrality in times of moral crisis." Dante Alighieri
>>
>> NB health Care Industry, so far always run by a Minister of Health,
>> Red-Liberal or Blue-Conservative, totally ignorant about rules and
>> science
>> in the medical and nursing professions and other health care professions.
>> Such a minister with health portfolio are obviously puppet manipulated by
>> the big shots hidden puppeteers pulling the strings from behind the
>> curtain.
>> I have told you and wrote it a thousand times that I was upholding the NB
>> Law which is the Coroners Act of New Brunswick when I made a medical
>> diagnosis about a patient who died violently, suddenly and most
>> unexpectedly
>>
>> on the operating table at the Miramichi NB hospital on June 15, 2001.  My
>> diagnosis of the licensed to practice medicine physician in NB I then
>> was:
>> “SUDDEN VIOLENT DEATH OF A YOUNG MAN, A RESULT OF A HOMICIDE. The
>> murdered
>> man was Mark Oliver Saulnier 25 years old. The arrogant and ignorant
>> bureaucrats did not like it and had thrown me out from the medical
>> business
>>
>> for good and denied me permanently a right to make a living.
>> To waste me the local bureaucrats brought an accountant from Halifax NS
>> to
>> execute me as a professional. Leaders of the Miramichi and NB medical
>> profession neither have to discuss the matter with me nor to soil their
>> hands, because the issue of patient dying or living are not doctors
>> concern
>>
>> they would be willing discuss in public.
>> Our good NB doctors avoid talking publicly about the breach of Coroners
>> Act
>>
>> of New Brunswick or about Code of Ethics of the Canadian Medical
>> Association
>>
>> but they are most eager to talk about money they are getting from the
>> public
>>
>> purse but do not have to be accountable for.
>> Next letter is going to be about a total lack of FORENSIC SERVICE in NB
>> which puts NB two hundred years behind the developed democracies of the
>> western world, like UK, France, Germany, Austria, Poland, Czech Republic
>> etc.
>> I am deeply offended when not treated as Canadian citizen, I am since
>> forty
>>
>> years, now a senior who worked hard diligently, serving people for twenty
>> eight consecutive years, religiously observing the binding us law and
>> paying
>>
>> taxes on time. Though I do consider myself to be a model and first class
>> adopted Canadian citizen, we had also raised two Canadian Olympians, I am
>> treated by the Canadian and NB authority and people in power if I had not
>> been a Canadian citizen at all, and I resent it bitterly.
>> If this Country of Canada and Province of New Brunswick are a part of a
>> developed western democracy I have a right either to be protected or
>> punished by the law.
>> I am standing up for Canada, defending dignity of old stock Canadian
>> citizens, murdered by immigrant physicians, manipulated by big criminals
>> in
>>
>> power, on my account also an immigrant physician, aimed to be wasted. I
>> am
>> begging for an answer: soit droit fait, fiat justicia ruat caelum1.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 4:20 AM
>> To: sallybrooks25 ; Furey, John ; andre ; oldmaison ; david ; david.eidt
>> ;
>> serge.rousselle ; denis.landry2 ; Stephen.Horsman ; Stephane.vaillancourt
>> ;
>>
>> Mark.Blakely ; COCMoncton ; markandcaroline ; David.Coon ; martin.gaudet
>> ;
>> dan. bussieres ; macpherson.don ; Jacques.Poitras ; nmoore ; jeremy.keefe
>> ;
>>
>> tglynn ; mhayes ; leader ; Liberal / Assistance ; nbpc ; sowl@nbnet.nb.ca
>> Cc: David Amos ; wharrison ; luc.labonte ; Bill.Morneau ; postur ;
>> brian.gallant ; jake.stewart ; lionel ; birgitta
>> Subject: Yo Sally "CryBaby Brooks Need I say that I found it more than
>> merely interesting that John Furey a former Assistant Attorney General
>> used
>>
>> Morrison's judgment of you against me on All Hallow Eve?
>>
>> Trust that I also noticed that five long years after the "Occupy"
>> nonsense is history that you, Chucky Murray, Tracy Glynn, Matt Hayes,
>> Tom Mann, Pam Ross, Mark Darcy, David Coon and Wlodzimierz Sokolowski
>> MD are still the best of buddies with Chucky "The Welfare Bum"
>> Leblanc. However it appears that Mikey O'Brien, Dan Bussieres, Leanne
>> Fitch, Martin Gaudet, Sally Brooks, Evelyn Greene, Jenn Wambolt, Andre
>> Murray and Cheryl Norrad to name but a few are not. More importantly
>> nobody is quite sure that Mr Baconfat aka Barry Winters is dead yet.
>> N'esy Pas Andre Faust?
>>
>>
>>
>

Perhaps Bill Morneau and the current Ministers of Health Benoît Bourque and Ginette Petitpas Taylor will explain to all why the Crown in New Brunswick will not give a homeless man Health Care Card

 
 

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Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:14 AM
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I know that Billy Morneau the wealthy dude who oversees all of
Canada's financea knows we can afford such a simple thing that ALL
Canadain citizens are entitled to be they homeless or not.

Mr Morneau brags of his wonderful life while his cohorts appear to
wish that mine be miserable and short.


YO Thomas Walkom trust that I am judging Bill Morneau by what he does
NOT do and not by what he owns. I am also judging you. The Tornonto
Star is a publicly held company which has been duly informed of my
concerns since 2004 correct?

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2017/10/30/judge-bill-morneau-for-what-he-does-not-what-he-owns-walkom.html

Judge Bill Morneau for what he does, not what he owns: Walkom

It's the content of what the finance minister does not his alleged
conflict of interest in doing it that matters.


Thomas Walkom writes on political economy. The winner of two national
newspaper awards (foreign reporting and column writing), he was the
Star’s Queen’s Park columnist for eight years. He has a PhD in
economics from the University of Toronto and is author of "Rae Days:
the rise and follies of the NDP, a book on Ontario’s first New
Democratic Party government." Reach him at 416-869-4570.



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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:36:06 +0000
Subject: RE: More fuel for the fire Here are Doctors wondering Why Do
Patients Stop Dying When Doctors Go on Strike?
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On 11/19/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> Methinks the "Powers That Be" are serious when they call us old folks
> useless eaters N'esy Pas Serge Rouselle?
>
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/slightly-blighty/201510/why-do-patients-stop-dying-when-doctors-go-strike
>
> Why Do Patients Stop Dying When Doctors Go on Strike?
> Can psychology explain our surprise at mortality decreases when doctors'
> strike?
> Raj Persaud, M.D. and Peter Bruggen, M.D.
> Posted Oct 17, 2015
>
> Doctors in the U.K. are considering whether to strike over proposed
> changes in their contracts, and they are marching in London as part of
> the protest. What's the likely impact of withdrawing medical care on
> the health of the nation? Physicians seem to be gambling that the
> government doesn't want to alarm the electorate.
>
> But when doctors strike, the scientific research shows that patients stop
> dying.
>
> The most comprehensive review of the medical impact of doctors'
> strikes is published in the prestigious academic journal Social
> Science and Medicine. A team lead by Solveig Cunningham and Salim
> Yusuf at Emory and Georgetown Universities in the U.S. and McMaster
> University in Canada, analysed five physician strikes around the
> world, all between 1976 and 2003.
>
> Doctors withdrew their labour, in the different strikes analysed, from
> between nine days and 17 weeks. Yet all the different studies report
> population mortality either stays the same, or even decreases, during
> medical strikes. Not a single study found death rates increased during
> the weeks of the strikes, compared to other times.
>
> For example, in a strike in Los Angeles County, California in January
> 1976, doctors went on strike in protest over soaring medical
> malpractice insurance premiums. For five weeks, approximately 50% of
> doctors in the county reduced their practice and withheld care for
> anything but emergencies. One analysis, quoted by Cunningham and
> colleagues, found the strike may have actually prevented more deaths
> than it caused.
>
> The study entitled, "Doctors' strikes and mortality: A review,"
> suggests that it's the fact that elective, or non-emergency surgery,
> tends to stop during a doctors' strike, which seems to be the key
> factor. It looks like a surprising amount of mortality occurs
> following this kind of procedure which disappears when elective
> surgery ceases due to doctors withdrawing their labour. Mortality
> declined steadily from week one (21 deaths/100,000 population) to
> weeks six (13) and seven (14), when mortality rates were lower than
> the averages of the previous five years.
>
> However, as soon as elective surgery resumed, there was a rise in
> deaths. There were 90 more deaths associated with surgery for the two
> weeks following the strike in 1976 (ie when doctors went back to work)
> than there had been during the same period in 1975.
> article continues after advertisement
>
> But, unlike Los Angeles, what about the impact of doctors' industrial
> action where the majority of doctors participate, and the strike lasts
> several months?
>
> Cunningham and colleagues report on a strike in Jerusalem from 2 March
> to 26 June 1983 due to a salary dispute between the government and the
> Israel Medical Association. 8000 of Jerusalem's 11,000 physicians
> refused to treat patients inside hospitals, though many of them set up
> separate aid stations where they treated emergency cases for a fee.
>
> One analysis examined death certificates from several months
> surrounding the strike period, 16 February-3 September 1983, and from
> a control period the previous year, 17 February-3 September 1982.
> Mortality did not increase during or after the strike, even when
> elective surgery resumed.
> Raj Persaud
> Source: Raj Persaud
>
> The pre-strike deaths for the control period and the strike period
> were identical at 89; there were six fewer deaths during the strike
> than during the control period, while in the ten weeks following the
> strike, there were seven more deaths than there had been in 1982.
>
> In an example of how a doctor's strike can backfire, the authors of
> this particular mortality analysis argued this apparent lack of impact
> of the strike on mortality suggests that there was an over-supply of
> doctors in Jerusalem at the time. The problem with drawing conclusions
> remains that the strike did not involve the whole scale deprivation of
> medical services.
>
> Cunningham and colleagues point out in their review paper that
> striking physicians opened aid stations, supplementing medical care
> and preventing people from mobbing the hospitals. While physicians
> were technically on strike during the four months of the dispute, most
> did not in fact adhere to the industrial action regulations. In truth,
> most doctors in Jerusalem provided care in a private or partially
> private context, so, while participating in spirit, they did not
> actually withdraw services.
> article continues after advertisement
>
> Another intriguing study analysed changes in mortality by studying the
> Jerusalem Post's newspaper reports of funerals during another
> Jerusalem doctors' strike, this time between March and June of 2000.
> This one arose from the Israel Medical Association's conflict with the
> government's proposed wages. The hospitals in the area cancelled all
> elective admissions and surgeries, but kept emergency rooms and other
> vital departments, such as dialysis units and oncology departments,
> open.
>
> The funeral study found a decline in the number of funerals during the
> three months of the strike, compared with the same months of the
> previous three years. One burial society reported 93 funerals during
> one month of the strike (May 2000) compared with 153 in May 1999, 133
> in May of 1998, and 139 in May 1997.
>
> Cunningham and colleagues summarise their review of research assessing
> the effects of doctors' strikes on mortality, finding that four of the
> seven studies report mortality dropped as a result of medical
> industrial action, and three observed no significant change in
> mortality during the strike or in the period following.
> Raj Persaud
> Source: Raj Persaud
>
> There are several possible interpretations for this surprising
> finding. One is that as its elective or non-emergency surgery which is
> usually most effected in a doctor's strike, it could be the mortality
> findings reflect an impact of elective surgery. The findings might be
> important because they perhaps illuminate the relatively high risks of
> elective surgeries, which may actually increase mortality. If it
> wasn't for doctor's strikes, this might be a finding, ironically never
> otherwise properly highlighted.
> article continues after advertisement
>
> Another sobering possible conclusion is that the public, and perhaps
> doctors themselves, overestimate the ability of medicine to stave off
> or have an impact on mortality.
>
> However, Jonathan Gruber and Samuel Kleiner analysed the effects of
> nurses' strikes in hospitals on patient outcomes using nurses' strikes
> over the 1984 to 2004 period in New York State. The paper entitled,
> "Do Strikes Kill? Evidence from New York State," found nurses' strikes
> increase in-hospital mortality by 19.4% and 30-day readmission by 6.5%
> for patients admitted during a strike. The authors, from MIT and
> Carnegie Mellon University, conclude, in their paper published as
> National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper No. 15855, that
> hospitals during nurses' strikes are providing a lower quality of
> patient care.
>
> It would seem the public should worry much more about nurses going on
> strike compared to doctors, yet the irony is, nurses seem to earn a
> lot less than doctors.
>
> The problem with interpreting the data, on doctors’ strikes, as
> Cunningham and colleagues point out in their review paper, in all
> medical strikes studied so far, not all doctors down tools. In the
> 1976 Los Angeles strike only 50% of physicians were involved. So
> doctors' strikes don't necessarily drastically reduce access to health
> care. Given the purpose of most strikes is to deprive management of
> the worker's labour, and it's benefits, this raises the sobering
> question of how effective a doctors' strike can ever be in comparison
> to other occupations.
>
> The very difficulty in getting physicians to withdraw their labour in
> the way other occupations can do, hints at a fundamental difference
> between what it is to be a doctor, compared to pursuing other ways of
> making a living. A doctor, the research on strikes illuminates, isn't
> something you do, it's something you are. This issue of identity is
> why it's so much more difficult for doctors to simply discontinue
> practicing medicine. It's a character flaw prone to exploitation by
> governments and employers, effectively frustrating standard union
> tactics.
>
> The Minister of Health in the U.K., Jeremy Hunt, is opposing the
> doctors and their threats of industrial action; in a recent comment
> widely reported, he explains why the state wants to change doctors’
> contracts, apparently to provide more medical cover of hospitals at
> week-ends. He said: ‘…three times less medical cover at weekends as
> they (doctors) do in weeks and that means that there's a 15% greater
> chance of you dying if you are admitted on a Sunday, compared to being
> admitted on a Wednesday.’
>
> There is indeed something paradoxical about the data showing that
> being admitted to hospital when there are fewer doctors at week-ends
> leads to greater mortality, compared to the research on doctors’
> strikes.
> Raj Persaud
> Source: Raj Persaud
>
> Could it be that the way medicine and health care are organised,
> rather than simply having lots of doctors around, is the fundamental
> issue? The UK Government may have cleverly distracted attention away
> from the deep problems over how healthcare is managed in the UK, by
> highlighting instead the issue of forcing doctors to be present at
> week-ends.
>
> Yet another irony is that the data from doctors strikes themselves
> indicate the issue isn’t as simple as just deploying more doctors
> means lives get saved.
>
> But the outcome of the current conflict between doctors and their
> state employer in the U.K. may hinge on which side the electorate
> believes is genuinely most interested in looking after patients, as
> opposed to protecting their own interests.
>
> If doctors don’t all go on complete strike, even when it could be in
> their financial interests to do so, this may signal to the public who
> to trust on this one – their doctors or their politicians.
>
> Another theory as to why patients live longer when doctors go on
> strike, is that the profession finally shakes off the shackles of its
> employer's restrictive practices, and returns, albeit temporarily, to
> practicing medicine freely, as it would really like to.
>
> And perhaps, that's actually the most effective sort of industrial
> action doctors can ever take.
>
> Follow Dr Raj Persaud on Twitter: www.twitter.com/@DrRajPersaud
>
> Raj Persaud and Peter Bruggen are joint podcast editors for the Royal
> College of Psychiatrists and also now have a free app on iTunes and
> Google Play store entitled ‘Raj Persaud in conversation’, which
> includes a lot of free information on the latest research findings in
> mental health, plus interviews with top experts from around the world.
>
> Download it free from these links:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rajpersaud.android.raj...
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dr-raj-persaud-in-conversation/id9274662...
>
> http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/MEDICAL_ETHICS_TEXT/Chapter_3_Moral_Climate_of_Health_Care/Reading-Death-Rate-Doctor-Strike.htm
>
>
> Chapter 3: The Moral Climate of Health Care
>
> Section. 6 Reading
>
>
>                Death Rate Drops During Doctor Strike
> http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surgery.com/data/articles/67.htm
> The June 10, 2000 issue of the British Medical journal reports on an
> interesting statistic that has occurred in Israel. It seems that three
> months ago physicians in public hospitals implemented a program of
> sanctions in response to a labor dispute over a contract proposal by
> the government.  The article stated that the Israel Medical
> Association began an action in March to protest against the treasurys
> proposed imposition of a new four year wage contract for doctors.
> Since then, the medical doctors have cancelled hundreds of thousands
> of visits to outpatient clinics and have postponed tens of thousands
> of elective operations.
>
> To find out whether the industrial action was affecting deaths in the
> country, the Jerusalem Post interviewed non-profit making Jewish
> burial societies, which perform funerals for the vast majority of
> Israelis.  Hananya Shahor, the veteran director of Jerusalems Kehilat
> Yerushalayim burial society said, "The number of funerals we have
> performed has fallen drastically."  Meir Adler, manager of the Shamgar
> Funeral Parlour, which buries most other residents of Jerusalem,
> declared with much more certainty: "There definitely is a connection
> between the doctors sanctions and fewer deaths. We saw the same thing
> in 1983 when the Israel Medical Association applied sanctions for four
> and a half months."
>
> In response Avi Yisraeli, director general of the Hadassah Medical
> Organization, offered his own explanation, "Mortality is not the only
> measure of harm to health."  He goes on to say that, "Elective surgery
> can bring about a great improvement in a patients condition, but it
> can also mean disability and death in the weakest patients."
>
>
>
> http://www.utopiasilver.com/emailtemp/articlepages/Doctor-Caused%20Disease.htm
>
> Silver Bulletin e-News Magazine
>
> Doctor-Caused Disease
> By Monte Kline
>
> One of the most common causes of disease (if not the most common
> cause) is conventional medical doctors! Sad, but too often true. The
> medical term coined to describe this problem is iatrogenic disease,
> from the Greek "iatros" meaning physician and "genesis" meaning
> origin. Thus we have doctor-caused disease.
>
> Specifically, iatrogenic disease is defined as:
> Any adverse reaction, either major or minor, to a medical or surgical
> treatment.
>
> The late Robert Mendelsohn, M.D., while Chairman of the Medical
> Licensing Committee for the State of Illinois and Associate Professor
> of Preventive Medicine and Community Health at the University of
> Illinois School of Medicine, wrote:
>
> . . . the greatest danger to your health is the doctor who practices
> Modern Medicine. I believe that Modern Medicine's treatments for
> disease are seldom effective, and that they're often more dangerous
> than the diseases they're designed to treat . . . I believe that more
> than 90% of Modern Medicine could disappear from the face of the
> earth-doctors, hospital, drugs, and equipment-and the effect on our
> health would be immediate and beneficial.
>
> DOCTORS ON STRIKE
>
> Whenever medical doctors go on strike, a most interesting phenomenon
> occurs - death rates go down! In 1976 in Bogota, Columbia medical
> doctors went on strike for 52 days, with only emergency care
> available. The death rate dropped by 35%. In 1976 in Los Angeles
> County a similar doctors' strike resulted in an 18% drop in mortality.
> As soon as the strike was over, the death rate went back to normal. A
> 50% decrease in mortality occurred in Israel in 1973 when there was a
> one month doctor's strike!
>
> HEALTH CARE CUTBACKS
>
> Since the early 1980's we've heard a lot about the impact of "managed
> care" and health care cutbacks. Medical doctors and political liberals
> are screaming that people are dying for lack of services. Actually,
> just the opposite is true. Since the "downsizing" of conventional
> medical services in the 1980's, life expectancy has made a massive
> jump both in the U. S. and Canada. No drug therapy and surgical
> technique can be shown to have statistically increased the general
> life expectancy. No generation has had its life expectancy increased
> significantly since medical doctors began using chemical treatments.
> Researchers John and Sonja McKinlay found that medical intervention
> only accounted for 1 - 3.5% of the increase in the average lifespan in
> the U. S. since 1900.
>
> DANGEROUS DRUGS
>
> Alternative cancer treatment authority, Dr. Ralph Moss, notes that a
> 1999 article in The Journal of The American Medical Association stated
> that prescription drugs kill over 100,000 people per year in U. S.
> hospitals. The F.D.A. noted that back in 1978 1.5 million Americans
> were hospitalized as a result of taking medical drugs. One in seven
> hospital beds is taken up by patients suffering from adverse drug
> reactions. The General Accounting Office stated that 51.5% of all
> drugs introduced between 1976 and 1985 had to be relabelled because of
> serious adverse reactions found after the marketing of these drugs -
> reactions like heart, liver or kidney failure, birth defects, blood
> disorders, respiratory arrest, seizures, and blindness.
>
> DRUG COMPANY BRIBERY
>
> Most people are not aware that drugs companies spend thousands of
> dollars per year on each medical doctor "selling" them on using their
> particular products. Drug companies hire "detail men" to visit
> physicians' offices and give them drug samples. These salesmen, who
> are not doctors and have no medical or pharmacological training, tell
> your medical doctor what drugs to use for what problems. Drug
> companies start this process early by offering medical students gifts,
> free trips to "conferences," and free "educational material," which
> translated means propaganda on that drug company's products. In
> Australia drug companies spend an average of $10,000 per year per
> physician marketing their products. The result of all of this is a
> massive overprescribing of drugs.
>
> The drug companies don't stop with just practicing M.D.s, though, but
> also direct major dollars toward hospitals, medical schools and
> supposedly "independent" research institutes. Medical schools, for
> example, are given grants for clinical trials, pharmaceutical
> research, or even buildings. These companies have sought to gain
> massive influence over medical teaching institutions by spreading
> their money around. Dr. Alan Levin, Adjunct Associate Professor of
> Immunology and Dermatology at the University of California states:
>
> Pharmaceutical companies, by enlisting the aid of influential academic
> physicians, have gained control of the practice of medicine in the
> United States. They now set the standards of practice by hiring
> investigators to perform studies which establish the efficacy of their
> products or impugn that of their competitors. . .
>
> HAZARDS OF HOSPITALIZATION
>
> Hospitals are a hotbed of iatrogenic disease. Every year two million
> people are admitted to hospitals with one health problem and end up
> with another health problem! According to Dr. Mendelsohn these
> doctor-caused illnesses kill as many as 20,000 people annually. A
> study in the Southern Medical Journal reported that one in five
> patients admitted to a university hospital acquires an iatrogenic
> disease, and one in thirty of these lead to death. Of these iatrogenic
> deaths, half are complications of drug therapy and 10% result from
> improper diagnostic procedures.
> Another study of 815 consecutive patients in a university hospital
> over an eight month period found that 36% had a disease caused by
> their doctor - in 2% of the cases the iatrogenic disease was believed
> to be a cause of the patient's death.
>
> If you project that figure out, assuming 2% of all hospital patients
> die from an iatrogenic disease, you get 700,000 hospital/doctor-caused
> deaths per year - one third of all deaths!
>
> HOSPITAL INFECTIONS
>
> In the 1840's Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis directed a teaching hospital in
> Vienna, where 75% of the women giving birth were dying of puerperal
> fever. He observed that doctors went from dissecting cadavers to
> delivering babies without washing their hands. Dr. Semmelweis made the
> "radical" policy change of requiring doctors to wash their hands
> before delivery a baby. An amazing thing happened - the mortality rate
> drop fifteen-fold. Unfortunately, his arrogant colleagues couldn't see
> the connection, so they dismissed him and ostracized him. The
> rejection ultimately drove Semmelweis to death in an insane asylum -
> another great moment in the history of iatrogenic disease.
>
> But doctors are enlightened nowadays about sanitation, aren't they? A
> 1981 study of washing habits in intensive care units found that only
> 28% of the doctors washed between patients in a teaching hospital and
> only 14% washed in the private hospital! Dr. Mendelsohn noted:
>
> . . . the sanitary practices of the medical personnel are often
> abominable and the hospital itself is probably the most germ-laden
> facility in town.
>
> Your chances of getting an infection in the hospital are one in 20
> with 15,000 people dying annually from hospital-acquired infections.
>
> SURGERY
>
> Dr. Arthur Mannix, Jr. declared in an article in the New York State
> Journal of Medicine:
>
> Errors in judgment or technique concerning either the anesthesia or
> the surgery, or a combination of the two, contribute to close to 50%
> of the deaths in the operating room.
>
> I think what that translates to is that disease is only responsible
> for 50% of the deaths on the operating table, while doctors are
> responsible for the other 50% of deaths.
> The McCarthy-Widmer study in the New England Journal of Medicine noted
> the following:
>
> 1. 20% of all surgery is unnecessary.
> 2. This unnecessary surgery costs consumers over $3 billion per year.
> 3. There are 2.4 million unnecessary operations annually.
> 4. This unnecessary surgery results in 12,000 unnecessary deaths each year.
>
> Another study showed that when a second specialist was consulted, 18%
> of the time he disagreed with doing the surgery.
> Hysterectomies are the most common operation today with nearly one
> million done per year. In six New York hospitals 43% of their
> hysterectomies were found on review to have been unjustified. Women
> with abnormal bleeding from the uterus or heavy menstrual blood flow
> were given the operation though other treatments or none at all would
> probably have worked as well.
>
> PROTECTING YOURSELF FROM DOCTORS
>
> "Doctors in general should be treated with about the same degree of
> trust as used car salesmen."
> - Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.
>
> 1. Caveat emptor - "Let the buyer beware." Don't assume your doctor
> knows everything, or that he or she necessarily knows what's best for
> you. Use your doctor like your lawyer or CPA - someone to give you
> counsel with you making the final decision.
>
> 2. Don't panic with sickness - Sickness is an opportunity to learn
> about your body's needs and to seek God's direction. Remember the
> story of King Asa in the Old Testament who died because he only sought
> the physicians instead of first seeking the Lord for his illness (II
> Chron. 16:12).
>
> 3. Avoid treating symptoms - There would be little iatrogenic disease
> if people were not so intent on treating symptoms. Instead you must
> get down to root causes, which usually means lifesytle change.
>
> 4. Don't "quick fix" pain - Get over the idea that pain is something
> that has to be immediately eliminated at any cost. That view
> encourages a lot of symptom treatment and resulting drug iatrogenesis.
> Pain is a warning that something's wrong. Again, seek to fix the
> underlying cause and that will fix the pain.
>
> 5. Seek appropriate health care services - The old saying says: Never
> ask a barber if you need a haircut. Don't expect anything but a
> prescription drug for symptoms when you go to a medical doctor. If you
> want to deal with underlying causes, go to the appropriate natural
> medicine doctor. Of course, if you have an emergency situation or some
> type of acute problem, conventional medicine is best equipped to deal
> with that.
>
> 6. Stimulate natural healing, don't sabotage it - Symptom treatments,
> like the frequent use of antibiotics, destroy your natural immunity,
> and thus open the door for more iatrogenic problems. Focus on
> detoxifying, correcting nutrient deficiencies, allergic desensitizing,
> and exercise to free up your body to heal itself.
>
> Contributed by Tony Isaacs
>
>
>
> When doctors go on strike does the death rate go down?
> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2741/when-doctors-go-on-strike-does-the-death-rate-go-down
>
> January 4, 2008
> Dear Cecil:
>
> Hi, Cecil. I have come across a number of seemingly credible reports
> suggesting that every time doctors go on strike the overall death rate
> goes down, in some cases quite precipitously. Can you ascertain if
> this in fact is the case or if some other factors are at work here?
>
> — Jacob
>
> As we'll see below, Jacob, it's not really so surprising that
> mortality statistics sometimes show a drop during a doctors' strike.
> What's staggering is that a reasonable person could see such stats and
> for even an instant think: Holy crap, those doctors are killing us.
> Sure, there'll always be a few alternative-medicine fringe dwellers
> who genuinely see the medical establishment as some sinister cabal
> presiding over a high-density feedlot of human misery. But the way
> this "fact" about doctors' strikes gets passed around suggests that a
> lot more people are a little more nuts than you'd want to imagine.
>
> No one's suggesting that changes in the availability of doctors
> wouldn't affect what happens to their patients in the short term - a
> study from last May, for instance, found that in both Australia and
> the U.S. birth rates decreased from 1 to 4 percent on days when
> OB/GYNs held their annual conferences. But looking over the data on
> doctors' strikes, it's hard to see where the MDs are saving many lives
> by staying out of the OR:
>
> One example often cited is that of a monthlong strike by Los Angeles
> County physicians in 1976, during which the mortality rate for
> patients was seen to drop by 18 percent. But a 1979 study in the
> American Journal of Public Health showed that the overall area death
> rate remained unchanged, as enough personnel remained on duty to
> handle the real emergencies. Any seeming benefit to patients' health
> likely resulted from about 11,000 fewer operations (presumably
> elective) being performed that month than was typical, meaning that an
> estimated 50 to 150 patients who could have been expected to die
> didn't.
>
> A four-month Israeli doctors' strike in 1983 was found to have some
> definable effects on public health - the percentage of cesarean
> sections increased somewhat, and one study suggested hypertension
> patients might have received worse treatment - but no observed impact
> on mortality. Nonetheless, the popular wisdom saw the work stoppage as
> a disaster: a detailed study of public perceptions afterward found
> that nearly one in four urgent-care patients (or their relatives) felt
> the strike had resulted in major health problems.
>
> A 1984 doctors' strike in Varkaus, Finland, mainly meant fewer visits
> for colds and stomachaches; no significant harmful effects to the
> public were seen, researchers found, and the uptick in visits after
> the doctors returned to work suggested that patients were glad to have
> them back.
>
> Another key example used to support the proposition that fewer doctors
> means fewer deaths comes from a June 2000 article in the British
> Medical Journal written during another Israeli strike; the author
> reported that in the three months after doctors walked out death rates
> fell significantly in affected cities. However, her data was by no
> means the result of a scientific study but consisted mostly of
> anecdotal reports from funeral home directors, who claimed they'd seen
> "the same thing in 1983." What is known is that, as in the LA strike,
> many thousands of elective surgeries were postponed but emergency
> rooms and chronic care departments remained open.
>
> In 2003 a SARS outbreak closed four hospitals in Toronto, and all
> non-emergency services were suspended. Among other things, this led to
> the canceling of a quarter to a half of joint-replacement surgeries,
> 40 percent of cardiac surgeries, and as much as 93 percent of some
> outpatient procedures. The result? The greater Toronto area did see a
> slight dip in mortality rate relative to the prior two years, but so
> did the rest of Ontario, and the decrease wasn't statistically
> significant anyway.
> So despite media suggestions to the contrary, doctors' going on strike
> doesn't seem to have much effect on the death rate one way or the
> other, and any reduction seen is probably the result of postponed or
> canceled nonemergency surgeries. And that figures: any surgery is
> risky, and some common procedures (like coronary bypass or aneurysm
> repair) have a death rate you just can't ignore. But leaving the tummy
> tucks out of it, most elective surgeries boast a pretty serious
> payoff, either in quality-of-life improvement right now or in medical
> trouble avoided down the line. If 600 people die each year as a result
> of hip-replacement surgery, does that mean the 200,000-plus patients
> that pulled through were fools to go under the knife? You're welcome
> to calculate the odds however you like, and in certain cases it may
> well make sense to question the value of surgery. As a general
> proposition, though, if my health is on the line, I'm glad to hear
> that the doctor is in.
>
> — Cecil Adams
>
>
>
> On 11/19/17, Wlodzimierz Sokolowski <sowl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> Wlodzimierz Sokolowski MD, 101 Henderson St., Miramichi, New Brunswick,
>> E1N
>>
>> 2R8
>> Tel: 506, 773-9731 e-mail: sowl@nbnet.nb.ca
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3PNDvC-K0U   C LeBlanc & I on the
>> Youtube
>> .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mAkMDRYzTY  Bathurst NB  surgeon AB
>>
>>
>> Quoting George Orwell:  “If liberty means anything at all, it means the
>> right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
>> “Code of ethics stand as a promise to society about the integrity of the
>> profession in return for the power and authority given to the profession
>> by
>>
>> society.” (Kenny NP.)
>>
>> DOCTORS MURDERING PATIENTS.
>> Title of my dissertation is TERRORISTS' CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE CANADIAN
>> STATE ON THE LEVEL OF RURAL COMMUNITY IN NEW BRUNSWICK aimed to infringe
>> the
>>
>> SOCIAL fabric of the people living together, respecting themselves,
>> helping
>>
>> each other by allowing the foreigner far away from, who was given the
>> highest trust to pay you back by murdering his/her hosts.   In my opinion
>> it
>>
>> were the medico-legal gang guided by Komintern (foreign and communists)
>> agents implanted at the highest level of Canadian power structure,
>> Security
>>
>> and Intelligence Service (CSIS) and RCMP who  brainwashed doctors and
>> convinced the local quacks that murdering their own people to expose and
>> waste me an immigrant doctor was worth doing
>>
>> CUT to the THE CHASE
>> PHYSICIANS MURDERING PATIENTS, I am intending to make a note about.
>> "Physicians possess a unique opportunity to commit murder, both with
>> their
>> access to chemicals and their ability to sign a death certificate. . . "
>> James McGuire, Ph.D., New England Journal of Medicine, October 17, 2002,
>> Vol. 347, No. 16.
>> Privileges assigned to medical profession such as an access to
>> clients-patients intimate secrets of possible victims, a knowledge and a
>> right to use of potentially lethal poisons of many kinds, are great asset
>> for the  physician- assassin. It must be remembered that every medical
>> act
>> designed, invented, developed to help, to cure, to prevent could be
>> turned
>> into a deadly weapon. Physicians possess a unique opportunity to commit
>> murder, both with their access to chemicals, falsify documentation which
>> would become inaccessible due to THE so called medical records secrecy
>> provisions and their ability to sign falsified death certificates.
>> Anessthesiologists injecting potentially lethal drugs are in the first
>> line
>>
>> among those who could kill the patient. Therefore the old statement that
>> the
>>
>> operation was a great success, though the patient died is all the time
>> valid.
>> After four month of residency, sometime between February and April of
>> 1972,
>>
>> I was shown how to murder an older man abandoning a deeply anesthetized,
>> loaded with muscle relaxant client, whose belly was closed by the
>> surgeon.
>> The staff-man decided that he should be dead with an inoperable colon
>> cancer. The client did not die because I did not leave him, until he
>> started
>>
>> to breathe on his own.  During a summer's peek of 1972 I saw the man on a
>> porch playing with his grandchild.
>>
>> With Ontario license and ten month training in anesthesiology, I was
>> lured
>> to Hotel Dieu in Chatham   (NB), where no one had interviewed me before
>> being rendered all the physicians' privileges, but at the same time being
>> expected to fail instantly to be chased away in shame, deeply in debt.
>> Here was the dichotomy, one one side the anesthesiologists, at the
>> university teaching hospital, at Ottawa general Hospital by all means
>> were
>> encouraging me to go to a small hospital on the periphery of Canada where
>> the need for an up to date trained anesthesiologist was desperate and at
>> the
>>
>> same time branding me to be an impostor unable to function by himself,
>> absolutely alone, thus hurting or killing patients. Puppets of the
>> Bolshevik
>>
>> conspirators at the Catholic Mission Hospital Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB
>> were
>>
>> waiting for me.
>> I did not fail at Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB, though a line of patients
>> were
>> exposed to my anticipated inferior anesthesia service, expected to be
>> hurt
>> or killed.
>> Here was the point where typical Bolsheviks conspiracy started. First the
>> administrator, the leading doctors criminals and supporting them lawyers
>> were betting that I must fail as an anesthesiologist because I got only
>> ten
>>
>> months a formal training.
>> Leaders of Hotel Dieu were convinced that I am unable to measure up to
>> the
>> task and must fail delivering anesthesia, thus to hurt or kill the
>> patient.
>>
>> Weren't they terrorists? Would you hire for your own restaurant a cook
>> who
>> can hardly boil a water, or make your clients sick or poisoned? Would you
>> hire a teacher, about whom many heard that he is a pedophile, just to
>> test
>> him on the pupils you are responsible for, to get him/her expose their
>> predilections and only then to get him/her? Obviously one would do it
>> only
>> when the terrorists are at the helm.
>> For the first few days I was not given any work, did not do any
>> anesthesia.
>>
>> The conspirators were waiting until my family will arrive from Ottawa ON
>> having liquidated our nest there.
>> After three days a dentist was delegated to check me out. It was a
>> prominent
>>
>> individual, a veteran of WW2, who was overseas. The dentist knew that I
>> have
>>
>> to fail due to anticipated incompetence, and fiddling with potentially
>> lethal drugs could kill the client, a Canadian citizen, which he the
>> dentist
>>
>> was very reluctant to take part in. So he had chosen an American, a
>> medical
>>
>> doctor not practicing medicine but living as a hermit a in the bush
>> behind
>> the Trappist monastery in Rogersville NB.
>> I was prepared for a longer surgery, have intubated the client though the
>> nose, and the dentist had pulled only one tooth, obviously not a wisdom
>> tooth and in two minutes. was done with. The dentist knew w that in two
>> minutes. even the totally incompetent, moron anesthesiologist would have
>> difficulties to kill the patient.
>> After such a star I started to function as s an anesthesiologist and for
>> time being doctors criminals at Hotel Dieu took a brake, and did not try
>> to
>>
>> trip me. After few months, in the spring of 1974 I was invited to
>> Bathurst
>> NB to give surgeons a hand. First was urologist Dr. Murthy, whose client
>> I
>> had applied a spinal anesthesia making the urologist very happy.
>> However the conspirators did not give up and to make me go wrong and a
>> next
>>
>> time in Bathurst NB a senior surgeon (Dr.AB) treating me like a farm hand
>> told me, in a very bossy way, you are going to work with me today, you
>> will
>>
>> deliver anesthesia,” and ordered general anesthesia (GA): for a Ramsteadt
>> pyloromyotomy procedure,” for pyloric stenosis,  the client was a six -
>> eight weeks old boy. I delivered GA when the surgeon was faking the
>> surgery.
>>
>> The surgeon decided to whore his mission of a surgeon but he did not
>> knife
>> the infant letting me the anesthesiologist harm the infant.
>> Few months later an ENT doctor relocated from Bathurst NB expecting me to
>> deliver three, four hours GA for an ear drum transplant. Started with a
>> known person in Chatham NB, which was a brother of doctor Duffy. I did
>> not
>> have any difficulties with multiple, three to four hours lasting GA and
>> the
>>
>> ENT doctor left.
>> After this point doctors criminals at Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB and
>> backing
>> them up terrorists organizers decided to set me up to murder a patient.
>> However first we ought to purchase a house in a nice place extending our
>> property, to be taken over by a chosen locals after we were gone robbed
>> and
>>
>> in shame.  The time came  “to lose a case.”
>> This dirty job was for foreigners only. Chinese brought a Filipino, a
>> Turk
>> got the patient and I, a targeted for destruction, called by a surgeon a
>> fucken Pollack, tortured and murdered an innocent Canadian country widow
>> from Napan NB, Mrs. Susan Dickson on November 6, 1975, by injection
>> tampered
>>
>> with. Ten to twenty minutes after the murder of Susan Dickson Holet Dieu
>> in
>>
>> Chatham NB had called Maher a funeral directors to dup  STILL WARM BODY
>> OF
>> SUSAN DICKSON to be carried away. Only few minutes later Hotel Dieu had
>> called, a son of a murdered woman, Mr. Norman Dickson telling him that
>> his
>> mother had died. Norman Dickson ordered the Adams funeral directors to
>> collect the dead, but still warm, body of his mother. THE PROBLEM IS THAT
>> A
>>
>> STILL WARM BODY OF THE MURDERED AT THE HOSPITAL PATIENT WAS DUMPED ON THE
>> FUNERAL TRUCK TO BE CARRIED AWAY to MONCTON HOSPITAL  FOR AN ALLEGED
>> POSTMORTEM EXAMINATION.
>>
>> It was Mr. Norman Dickson the son of the murdered who demanded the
>> postmortem examination. It were neither the administrator nor the doctor
>> coroner in Chatham NB. There was no postmortem examination, the deceiving
>> maneuver was a brutal fraud but it was another criminal act because an
>> indignity to human body took place, when dragging a still warm body of a
>> just murdered patient to Moncton NB. It was another criminal act.
>> Criminal
>> Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46) Dead body
>> 182 Every one who
>> (a) neglects, without lawful excuse, to perform any duty that is imposed
>> on
>>
>> him by law or that he undertakes with reference to the burial of a dead
>> human body or human remains, or
>> (b) improperly or indecently interferes with or offers any indignity to a
>> dead human body or human remains, whether buried or not,
>> is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term
>> not
>>
>> exceeding five years.  Date modified: 2017-09-22
>> Being set up to be a true, executioner a killer of an innocent patient,
>> my
>> human dignity and professional integrity was gang raped by the doctors
>> who
>> arranged the premeditated murder and the lawyers who allowed them, could
>> be
>>
>> encouraged them and then vigorously covering the premeditated murder of
>> an
>> innocent Canadian citizen.
>>       I, the executioner had cried murder, demanding investigation and the
>> premeditated capital crime was swept under the rug and is still there. A
>> dozen of local nurses witnessed the slaying, knowing that they can do
>> nothing about it, not sacrificing the welfare of their families,
>> demoralized
>>
>> realizing that the Canadian law on Miramichi NB was a joke.
>> For the next twenty five years I was branded and treated as a silent
>> killer
>>
>> who is going to strike again when the time would be ripe.
>> Dr Sayat, the one who had arrived on the day of Susan Dickson's murder
>> was
>> leaving and another doctor was coming. It was another immigrant doctor
>> with
>>
>> full anesthetic credentials. He tried to hide the lethal poison in the
>> inhalable container. But I was vigilant enough and cut the dental
>> extractions short.
>> In the early eighties a man with the perforated appendix since good
>> number
>> of days, belly full of pus was kept in Newcastle Hospital for days
>> expecting
>>
>> an overflowing sepsis to kill him when I had left for a conference
>> abandoning the Hotel Dieu anesthesia cover where he was transferred. I
>> was
>> supposed to travel to PEI but I did not leave and the young man did not
>> die.
>>
>> The surgeon at the Old Miramichi Hospital who kept the patient with
>> perforated appendix, had learned that I knew what he did and he hated my
>> guts, at one point calling a fucken Pollack.
>> In 1977 when I was again only delivering anesthesia because the lady
>> doctor
>>
>> was busy delivering babies they brought a doctor locum UK from and I was
>> out
>>
>> of work cut off of any income from anesthesia. Being again and again
>> badly
>> humiliated I have turned to the administrator trying to inform her about
>> me
>>
>> leaving practice of anesthesiology altogether. I was told in a brutal way
>> that I was brought to Hotel Dieu in Chatham NB to deliver anesthesia and
>> not
>>
>> to be a GP (family physician) and if I don't like such an arrangement I
>> have
>>
>> to leave
>> In February of 1984 deposition to the police in Chatham NB and the
>> consequences.
>> In 1990 racket with Mel Dickson and switching off the respirator. Legally
>> committing a murder.
>> Provocation in OR in October of 1992 with the fentanyl syringe missing.
>>
>> In mid nineties Unexpected death after an elective surgery done in Hotel
>> Dieu with me as an anesthesiologist anchored in the Old Miramichi
>> Hospital
>> in Newcastle NB.
>>
>> In 1998 AA attempted to murder and I brutalized to surrender my family
>> practice to the doctor chosen by the registrar of the College of
>> Physicians
>>
>> and Surgeons of New Brunswick (CPSNB). This time the injectable
>> anesthetic
>> was again hidden in the pentothal. I suspect it was MIDAZOLAM (VERSET)
>> which
>>
>> kept the client five days unconscious and flaccid.
>> IN 1999 an old Acadian women, called by me “a lady with the hip,” blue
>> collar Newbrunswickers were expected to be killed by me a hidden
>> assassin.
>> These very people were tortured and murdered by NB doctors in order to
>> frame
>>
>> and annihilate me an immigrant physician and these doctors were enjoying
>> high social status, generously paid by NB Medicare, no questions asked.
>> My immigrant's life on Miramichi NB, was worse than it would have been at
>> Auschwitz death camp (1940-1945) have I had found myself there. Because
>> had
>>
>> I not survive Auschwitz I would have been an anonymous hero of holocaust,
>> had I survived I would be a hero to the end of my natural life, whereas
>> here
>>
>> on Miramichi NB my human dignity and professional integrity were gang
>> raped
>>
>> and afterward I was treated like a murdering whore, all the time
>> practicing
>>
>> anesthesiology in three local hospitals and during this time more murders
>> and attempted murders and completed on my account.
>> Spectacular premeditated homicide was to clinch the project happened on
>> June
>>
>> 15, 2001 and the victim was a blue collar Acadian Mr. Mark Oliver
>> Saulnier
>> 25, but the assassin was a wrong doctor.
>> Becoming a whistle-blower on June 24, 2001 I was tried to kill another
>> patient on June 25, 2001 (Monday) Mrs. Conell from Strathadam NB
>> Taking a civic stand, protesting a senseless murder of a patient, I was
>> wasted as a professional, fired by an accountant, ostracized by the
>> Miramichi NB medical community, not reported to the College of Physicians
>> and Surgeons of New Brunswick (CPSNB) instrumental in setting up the
>> premeditated murder and cover up. CPSNB refused to hear me and did not
>> challenge my medical diagnoses rejecting the due process.  Wasted as a
>> professional I was tried to be murdered at the Miramichi NB hospital
>> twice
>> first time in 2009, second in 2012.
>> Several times I was begging to have the murder of Susan Dickson
>> elucidated
>> and since fifteen years continuously repeating the same story, which if
>> not
>>
>> true must have been considered criminal scandalous, pestiferous,
>> vexatious
>> and frivolous and I should have been severely punished for fabricating
>> evidence. But I was neither interviewed nor cross examined by
>> distinguished
>>
>> peers of mine and their dignified lawyers even once. The famous Canadian
>> Doctor, William Osler, when teaching medicine preacahed to the medical
>> students: “Listen to the patient and he/she will tell you the diagnosis.”
>> The most basic tool in the practice of medicine, taking a good history
>> and
>> law, taken a thorough interview, was never used to diagnose my claim.
>> Medical doctors murderers, were backed up by the NB lawyers criminals,
>> elected politicians, unelected civil servants and municipal police force.
>> Many years lasting hard work of the doctors murderers, setting up
>> homicides
>>
>> and cover up the tortures and assassinations, were generously paid by
>> Medicare NB and by CMPA.
>> Biological weapon was used against me triggering Rheumatoid Arthritis.
>> During the active faze my left hip was busted and an orthopedic surgeon
>> was
>>
>> pointed to do the surgery, to be followed by an overwhelming sepsis a
>> result
>>
>> of a stab wound 2 cm to the rectum inflicted by a night nurse ten hours
>> prior to surgery.
>> Who needs death penalty in NB since we have good doctors ready to help
>> and
>> Medicare NB will pay for the trouble.
>> During our stay in Canada the Polish Bolsheviks' security UB/SB knew all
>> the
>>
>> details about our whereabouts in Canada and their agents stayed in touch
>> visiting us few times. Most probably Polish UB/SBs conceived an idea of
>> murdering innocent Canadians to eliminate the traitor, but the Canadian
>> securities agencies using Canadian doctors were cooperating supplying
>> corpses.
>> Leaders of the Canadian medical profession are poorly educated in
>> humanities, ignorant in philosophy of medicine, liars, robbers, ethical
>> imbeciles, socially irresponsible cowards, arrogant racists easily
>> brainwashed, betraying the ethos of occidental medicine and keeping in
>> deep
>>
>> contempt the Code of Ethics of the CMA and WMA Declaration of Geneva
>> 1948.
>> “Code of ethics stand as a promise to society about the integrity of the
>> profession in return for the power and authority given to the profession
>> by
>>
>> society.” (Kenny NP.)
>>
>> “Fiat justitia, ruat caelum” “Let justice be done though the heavens
>> fall”
>> “Indifference is an act of complicity.”
>> "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their
>> neutrality in times of moral crisis." Dante Alighieri
>>
>> NB health Care Industry, so far always run by a Minister of Health,
>> Red-Liberal or Blue-Conservative, totally ignorant about rules and
>> science
>> in the medical and nursing professions and other health care professions.
>> Such a minister with health portfolio are obviously puppet manipulated by
>> the big shots hidden puppeteers pulling the strings from behind the
>> curtain.
>> I have told you and wrote it a thousand times that I was upholding the NB
>> Law which is the Coroners Act of New Brunswick when I made a medical
>> diagnosis about a patient who died violently, suddenly and most
>> unexpectedly
>>
>> on the operating table at the Miramichi NB hospital on June 15, 2001.  My
>> diagnosis of the licensed to practice medicine physician in NB I then
>> was:
>> “SUDDEN VIOLENT DEATH OF A YOUNG MAN, A RESULT OF A HOMICIDE. The
>> murdered
>> man was Mark Oliver Saulnier 25 years old. The arrogant and ignorant
>> bureaucrats did not like it and had thrown me out from the medical
>> business
>>
>> for good and denied me permanently a right to make a living.
>> To waste me the local bureaucrats brought an accountant from Halifax NS
>> to
>> execute me as a professional. Leaders of the Miramichi and NB medical
>> profession neither have to discuss the matter with me nor to soil their
>> hands, because the issue of patient dying or living are not doctors
>> concern
>>
>> they would be willing discuss in public.
>> Our good NB doctors avoid talking publicly about the breach of Coroners
>> Act
>>
>> of New Brunswick or about Code of Ethics of the Canadian Medical
>> Association
>>
>> but they are most eager to talk about money they are getting from the
>> public
>>
>> purse but do not have to be accountable for.
>> Next letter is going to be about a total lack of FORENSIC SERVICE in NB
>> which puts NB two hundred years behind the developed democracies of the
>> western world, like UK, France, Germany, Austria, Poland, Czech Republic
>> etc.
>> I am deeply offended when not treated as Canadian citizen, I am since
>> forty
>>
>> years, now a senior who worked hard diligently, serving people for twenty
>> eight consecutive years, religiously observing the binding us law and
>> paying
>>
>> taxes on time. Though I do consider myself to be a model and first class
>> adopted Canadian citizen, we had also raised two Canadian Olympians, I am
>> treated by the Canadian and NB authority and people in power if I had not
>> been a Canadian citizen at all, and I resent it bitterly.
>> If this Country of Canada and Province of New Brunswick are a part of a
>> developed western democracy I have a right either to be protected or
>> punished by the law.
>> I am standing up for Canada, defending dignity of old stock Canadian
>> citizens, murdered by immigrant physicians, manipulated by big criminals
>> in
>>
>> power, on my account also an immigrant physician, aimed to be wasted. I
>> am
>> begging for an answer: soit droit fait, fiat justicia ruat caelum1.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 4:20 AM
>> To: sallybrooks25 ; Furey, John ; andre ; oldmaison ; david ; david.eidt
>> ;
>> serge.rousselle ; denis.landry2 ; Stephen.Horsman ; Stephane.vaillancourt
>> ;
>>
>> Mark.Blakely ; COCMoncton ; markandcaroline ; David.Coon ; martin.gaudet
>> ;
>> dan. bussieres ; macpherson.don ; Jacques.Poitras ; nmoore ; jeremy.keefe
>> ;
>>
>> tglynn ; mhayes ; leader ; Liberal / Assistance ; nbpc ; sowl@nbnet.nb.ca
>> Cc: David Amos ; wharrison ; luc.labonte ; Bill.Morneau ; postur ;
>> brian.gallant ; jake.stewart ; lionel ; birgitta
>> Subject: Yo Sally "CryBaby Brooks Need I say that I found it more than
>> merely interesting that John Furey a former Assistant Attorney General
>> used
>>
>> Morrison's judgment of you against me on All Hallow Eve?
>>
>> Trust that I also noticed that five long years after the "Occupy"
>> nonsense is history that you, Chucky Murray, Tracy Glynn, Matt Hayes,
>> Tom Mann, Pam Ross, Mark Darcy, David Coon and Wlodzimierz Sokolowski
>> MD are still the best of buddies with Chucky "The Welfare Bum"
>> Leblanc. However it appears that Mikey O'Brien, Dan Bussieres, Leanne
>> Fitch, Martin Gaudet, Sally Brooks, Evelyn Greene, Jenn Wambolt, Andre
>> Murray and Cheryl Norrad to name but a few are not. More importantly
>> nobody is quite sure that Mr Baconfat aka Barry Winters is dead yet.
>> N'esy Pas Andre Faust?
>>
>>
>>

 

 






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