Friday 3 March 2023

'Intelligence is not truth': Why prosecuting foreign election interference is rare

 
 

'Intelligence is not truth': Why prosecuting foreign election interference is rare

Using intelligence to pursue law enforcement matters continues to be a challenge: David Vigneault

On Thursday Michael Duheme, a deputy commissioner of the RCMP, fielded questions from MPs about why there are no active RCMP investigations underway into the last election. 

"We are not investigating any elements from the 2019 or the 2021 elections. We did not receive any actionable intelligence that would warrant us to initiate a criminal investigation," said Duheme, who oversees federal policing. 

"No charges have been laid."

His testimony touched on the perennial problem of "intelligence to evidence" — the gap between the information intelligence agencies have and what police forces need for prosecutions.

The problem has come to the fore as MPs probe claims — from media reports relying on intelligence leaks — that the People's Republic of China (PRC) and its agents are behind a campaign of foreign interference in Canadian politics.

Citing classified Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) sources, the Globe and Mail and Global News have published stories alleging China tried to ensure that the Liberals won a minority government in the last general election. The newspaper also published reports saying Beijing worked to defeat Conservative candidates who were critical of China.

Global News reported that CSIS had gone so far as to urge senior Liberal Party officials to revoke Han Dong's nomination in a Toronto riding in 2019, where he is the current MP.

As former CSIS director Richard Fadden told CBC's Front Burner, CSIS, police and the legal system have different mandates.

"This is all based on our charter rights and our rights in the Criminal Code to protect people from overtly facile, overly easy investigations by the police. They need to have their standard met, not CSIS's standard met," he said.

"Intelligence agencies — not just CSIS but intelligence agencies around the world — collect a lot of intelligence and a lot of it is not used because it doesn't reach the bar of being convincing enough from the perspective of those professional standards."

Fadden still said that, given the recent reporting, he is somewhat surprised at the lack of an investigation. 

"If everything that was written by your colleagues in the media is taken as accurate, I'm a little bit surprised that there's not something there," he said.

The trouble with intelligence sources

Stephanie Carvin, a security expert and professor at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, told CBC News Network's Power & Politics on Wednesday that intelligence reports rely on sources of information that can't always be trusted or confirmed.

"It can give you a picture of what's going on but sources don't always give you the 100 per cent truth, and that's something we have to keep in mind," Carvin said. 

"Sources are human. They can get things wrong, they can report rumours, they can lie," she said. "People who are being wiretapped may know that they are being wiretapped, so they can say things that are trying to deliberately mislead people."

Carvin said it's not clear whether the intelligence information cited in the media reports comes from single sources or is based on multiple sources that have been cross-referenced. 

Intelligence is not truth
- Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs David Morrison 

"We're getting the information that's in these reports, but the information isn't evidence. It may not be 100 per cent true and we should read them with a critical eye," she said.

Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs David Morrison, who served on an independent panel to monitor incidents that could have threatened the 2021 election's integrity, said intelligence gathered by CSIS and other national security bodies "rarely paints a full or concrete or actionable picture."

"Intelligence is not truth," he told Thursday's committee.

"It is often inaccurate or partial or incomplete, or in fact designed to throw us off our track."

CSIS head cites ongoing 'challenges'

While it's not clear what intelligence was passed to the RCMP about claims that Beijing interfered in Canadian elections, the information-sharing relationship between CSIS and the RCMP has been problematic.

2021 report by the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency, one of the country's intelligence watchdogs, said flaws in the way Canada's spy agency and the national police force share information are stalling investigations.

"Despite frequent verbal exchanges between CSIS and RCMP headquarters, CSIS's formal disclosures of information have been very limited and not always useful," said the NSIRA report.

"Frontline RCMP investigators derive little benefit from CSIS's work."

WATCH | Reports on election interference are 'rumours': deputy minister of Foreign Affairs

Reports on election interference are 'rumours': deputy minister of Foreign Affairs

Duration 2:09
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs David Morrison told MPs on the procedure and House affairs committee that intelligence reports 'rarely paint a full or concrete or actionable picture' as he disparaged media reports about foreign interference in elections.

CSIS director David Vigneault told a parliamentary committee on Thursday that since his agency was founded in 1984, "elaborate processes" have been developed to help the RCMP and CSIS share information.

"I think the committee has heard some of the challenges that exist in using intelligence and passing it on to law enforcement agencies or investigative bodies because intelligence is not a question of evidence," Vigneault said.

He said that the process for sharing intelligence information remains complex and is the subject of discussions between CSIS, the RCMP and the Department of Justice.

"The notion of using intelligence to pursue law enforcement matters continues to be a challenge that a number of organizations are actively working on," Vigneault told the committee.

 "But we do have robust process with the RCMP and with other investigative bodies to do such an exchange."

The federal government has been warned in the past that failing to address questions about intelligence-sharing could put a number of national security court cases at risk and undermine Ottawa's national security efforts.

Another CSIS official said in recent days legislative changes may be needed.

"I would suggest the government has been wrestling with [this] for some time now and it's not just in Canada," said Adam Fisher, director general of intelligence assessments at CSIS.

"Our colleagues at Public Safety certainly have this on their plate."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Catharine Tunney is a reporter with CBC's Parliament Hill bureau, where she covers national security and the RCMP. She worked previously for CBC in Nova Scotia. You can reach her at catharine.tunney@cbc.ca

 
 
 
 
699 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
Welcome to the circus 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to David Amos
Methinks these clowns using the the word "intelligence" is the biggest joke of all N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Boyd Ireland 
Wow, CBC doing the dirty spin work for the Liberals. This is why CBC needs to disappear. SAD! 


Peter Burke 
Reply to Boyd Ireland
Totally agree.  
 
 
Hesam Salehi  
Reply to Boyd Ireland 
This organization is doing its level best to minimize this and other things, as much as possible. They’re really good at doing it too. Many people still think this “news source” is the epitome of unbiased news in the country. It’s totally bizarre, but seems to be working. 
 
 
Rick Grimes 
Reply to Boyd Ireland 
Perhaps the most chucklesome avatar this side of MSM interwebs. Also very sad, in that Canadians will accept someone who did that, at least three times, and can still get away with it. Such blatant r____8ism. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Boyd Ireland   
Surely you jest 
 
 
 
 
 
Rob Preston
“Intelligence is not the truth!” Well with Trudeau nothing is the truth. Canadians do not need intelligence to come up with that fact. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Rob Preston
Oh So True  


David Amos

Reply to Rob Preston 
Methinks these clowns using the the word "intelligence" is the biggest joke of all N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marian Minar 
"No charges have been laid." How could you lay charges if you don't investigate? 
 
 
John Wilson
Reply to Marian Minar 
Exactly.

Elections Canada just announced TODAY that they will investigate.

What have they been doing for the last 4 years ?!

 
David Amos 
Reply to Marian Minar
Bingo 
 
 
 
 
 
Edward Woodcroft 
More minimizing and deflection from the state broadcaster. This is article #4 by my count. 
 
   
Peter Burke 
Reply to Edward Woodcroft 
article 45000 at least  
 
 
francis quinn  
Reply to Peter Burke 
isnt that also the number of times trump lied??  
 
 
Edward Woodcroft   
Reply to francis quinn  
Trump probably lied more times than that? But what does Trump have to do with Chinese electoral interference
 
 
Christopher Jansen
Reply to Edward Woodcroft 
t took them a week to figure out their war plan. 
 
 
francis quinn 
Reply to Edward Woodcroft 
northing.. just an observation .  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Christopher Jansen
Go Figure 




Marie Harris 
By putting this “quote” under Trudeau’s photo, you just know there are going to be people who don’t read the article and then start saying that he said “intelligence isn’t truth”.  
 
 
Dawn Ranjoe 
Reply to Marie Harris 
Why do you think they did that? All media is user based now. That headline/photo will give them clicks. All about the money. 
 
 
John Collins 
Reply to Marie Harris 
He did deny it yesterday or the day before.  
 
 
Roch Quesnel  
Reply to Marie Harris
It should read "Common Sense Isn't All That Common"  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Marie Harris
Methinks we should never believe anything until its officially denied N'esy Pas?  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Roch Quesnel 
I have stated that countless times 
 
 
 
 
 
Roch Quesnel 
So, does this also go for Scientific intelligence?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Roch Quesnel
Those terms are all oxymorons 
 
 

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