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https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/ https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/ Alleged vigilantism on Deer Island 'done out of desperation,' says local MLA Nick Moore Nick Moore CTV News Atlantic Reporter Follow | Contact Published July 13, 2023 10:20 p.m. ADT Share facebooktwitterreddit More share options Conrad Cline says he’s one of several residents on Deer Island, N.B. who’ve recently had something stolen. “People in general are just fed up,” says Cline. A fuel tank, some fuel, and other supplies were recently taken from Cline’s rescue boat. “I have it all identified and ready to do search and rescues,” says Cline, who’s been a volunteer with the Canadian Coast Guard Auxiliary for over 30 years. Nick Moore CTV News Atlantic Reporter Halifax Nick Moore is a Saint John-based videographer with CTV Atlantic. Nick joined the CTV Atlantic news team in October 2010, with reporting stints in Halifax, Moncton, and Fredericton. Prior to CTV News, Nick worked as a reporter at the New Brunswick legislature for the Moncton Times & Transcript newspaper. Nick studied journalism at St. Thomas University, where he served as editor-in-chief of STU’s campus newspaper, The Aquinian. Born and raised in New Brunswick's Charlotte County, Nick is proud to be working with the news team he grew up watching. https://davidraymondamos3. Hey Higgy do ya think any of the other Premiers bothered to read the news about the RCMP in NB lately? Moore, Rob - M.P. <Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca> Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 3:53 PM To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail. *This is an automated response* Thank you for contacting the Honourable Rob Moore, P.C., M.P. office. We appreciate the time you took to get in touch with our office. If you did not already, please ensure to include your full contact details on your email and the appropriate staff will be able to action your request. We strive to ensure all constituent correspondence is responded to in a timely manner. If your question or concern is time sensitive, please call our office: 506-832-4200. Again, we thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Office of the Honourable Rob Moore, P.C., M.P. Member of Parliament for Fundy Royal rob.moore@parl.gc.ca |
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Feel free to review my blog https://davidraymondamos3. Thursday, 13 July 2023 RCMP warn against vigilantism as they investigate series of Deer Island incidents |
Deer Island lost RCMP officer over officer safety, says retired Mountie
Gilles Blinn says backup is too far away and RCMP could face charges under Labour Code if officer hurt, killed
A former New Brunswick Mountie says the reason RCMP are no longer based on Deer Island is officer safety.
Gilles Blinn was reacting to alleged vigilantism on the island this week over a rash of thefts, and to complaints from residents about the loss of their on-site officer years ago.
Blinn retired as a staff sergeant in 2018, after serving 31 years, including eight as a labour representative.
He says he pointed out to RCMP at the time that he believed they could be criminally charged under the Canada Labour Code for putting the Deer Island Mountie's life at risk.
"One-member posts are not safe," said Blinn.
"It's all fine and dandy when everything's good, but when somebody wants to do harm to a member, that member doesn't have any backup that's readily available," he said.
Backup should be less than an hour away, said Blinn, "because when you're in a fight for your life, an hour, you're dead."
Officer backup a ferry ride away
The lone Deer Island officer's situation was particularly troublesome, according to Blinn. The officer worked out of their home, without a police station or jail cells, and their closest backup was a ferry ride away in St. George, which "adds a layer of complexity that's unsafe," he said.
It takes about 20 minutes to drive from St. George to Letete to catch the ferry to Deer Island. The crossing takes about 20 minutes, according to the Department of Transportation's website. And the ferry from the mainland stops running between 10:30 p.m. and 6:30 a.m.
"It's nice to have [a resident officer] for the community, but it's not safe for the member," said Blinn. "So that's why we [the labour representatives] didn't want a member there."
"It was my job to protect … the member that was there, and secondly to protect management from themselves because if something happened to that member, they could face a charge."
$550K penalty over Moncton shootings
He noted a judge found the RCMP guilty under the Canada Labour Code in 2017 of failing to provide adequate use-of-force equipment and related user training to the Moncton Mounties who responded to the June 4, 2014 shootings.
RCMP Constables Fabrice Gevaudan, Doug Larche and Dave Ross were killed. Two more officers were shot but survived. The national force was ordered to pay a penalty of $550,000.
Blinn contends Deer Island wasn't safe for an officer alone years ago, and is even less so today because policing in general has become more dangerous, he said, citing increased drug use that makes people unpredictable and a growing "anti-police sentiment" across North America as examples.
The abandoned residence RCMP say was destroyed by a suspicious fire Tuesday night is located at the end of Deer Island, opposite where the ferry from Letete lands. (Roger Cosman/CBC)
"If I was a supervisor, no way in hell I would ever allow that," said Blinn, who worries "a lot" about his twin 28-year-old sons and two sons-in-law who all work for the RCMP.
"If the call is serious enough to go, you should go two members [because] one, you can get in trouble really fast, and you can be incapacitated really quick. And then you're you're just praying for the best."
He recalled working alone on occasion at his first post in Minto in 1988. "It's a bad feeling to be alone … and you're in the middle of nowhere." Police also had fewer tools then — only handcuffs and a gun, no pepper spray or Tasers.
He got in "a few tussles" and is still here to talk about it.
"But it could have turned the other way too," he said. "You don't know what you're going to, never."
RCMP warn against vigilantism
On Wednesday, RCMP issued a statement warning the public against acts of vigilantism as they investigate a series of incidents on Deer Island.
A car was heavily damaged by a group of people at the ferry terminal Tuesday around 11 p.m., an abandoned residence was destroyed in a suspicious fire about an hour later, and on Wednesday morning, some fuel was reported stolen from the ferry terminal.
Some residents have suggested they took matters into their own hands after a rash of overnight thefts, allegedly by people who use drugs and visit the island on the last ferry of the night, making it even harder for St. George RCMP to respond.
Would need 3 officers, not feasible
According to Blinn, Deer Island would need at least three officers to be able cover when one is off-duty, on vacation, or away on training.
But the call volume on the island doesn't make that feasible, he said.
Blinn estimates it costs $150,000 to $170,000 to staff one constable position, including salary, benefits and vehicle.
And resources are limited, given retirements and fewer young people choosing to go into policing, he said.
Gilles Blinn worked for the RCMP for 31 years in Minto, Oromocto and Fredericton, in highway patrol, drugs, customs and excise, as a violent crimes linkage analyst, and a labour representative before he retired in 2018. (Submitted by Gilles Blinn)
People who live in remote areas can't expect 24/7 policing, and RCMP have to prioritize serious crimes, such as homicides, over "petty crimes," such as thefts.
"It's not petty to you if someone steals your stuff, right? And I understand that."
Blinn admits he doesn't know what the solution is for Deer Island and wishes he did. He believes it's a multi-faceted problem ranging from the cost of living, to addictions, and the courts not being hard enough on criminals — issues police alone cannot solve.
More sporadic patrols of the island by St. George RCMP might help, he said. But he believes would-be criminals will know when officers are on the ferry and "stay low" until they leave.
He does recommend residents try to focus on prevention. "Lock your stuff up."
Province 'aware rural crime is an issue'
New Brunswick RCMP spokesperson Cpl. Stéphane Esculier did not provide an interview or update about Deer Island on Friday.
Public Safety Minister Kris Austin is on vacation and unavailable, said department spokesperson Geoffrey Downey.
"The government is aware rural crime is an issue, that's why we invested in addressing crime on multiple fronts in the last budget," Downey said in an emailed statement, without elaborating.
"While the department meets with the RCMP on a regular basis to get an update on the work being done to fill the positions, questions about hiring and where the officers will be stationed should be directed to the RCMP," Downey said.
Pat Bouchard, director of the Atlantic/central region for the National Police Federation, which represents about 20,000 RCMP members across Canada, did not respond to a request for an interview.
This could have been handled differently but you cannot have it both ways as far as not wanting to pay high property taxes but wanting a level of policing not typical for rural Canada.
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I mean RCMP throw hands in air saying community policing is too dangerous for them and they cannot see their way to figuring out how to make it safer for their officers because their primary focus must be on major crimes so good luck out their folks managing petty crimes on your own! The message seems to be fight petty crime with petty crime because the RCMP do not deal in petty crime.
Seriously disturbing.
It's not like RCMP can ignore it if they can tie what happened to someone
It seemed like something that just because police can't respond iff they aren't there after the ferry stops running it's hard to understand why they weren't proactive if the pattern was criminals coming on the last ferry then police being on it too a few times may have stopped it but that kind of proactive approach didn't happen so now people who there will be public sympathy for could indeed wind up charged .
They have a right to a safe work place so if something bad happens back up being too far away is a real issue
What is harder to understand is the island fell in the coverage area of RCMP stationed on the mainland ( I think ) so nothing prevented them being sent on that last ferry as a clear pattern that criminals were going over when police couldn't get there should have been ended but it wasn't.
700 people would not want to pay the taxes needed to support a 4 person police force,
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You are not allowed to break the law
If you live rurally you don't expect police for that few people while there are things the police could have done and it's hard to understand why they did not end this given it was predictable when the troublemakers came so deterrence could have worked and prevented this,
This could have gone tragically wrong so I don't think you'd feel the same way if people were breaking the law in your area to deter other people breaking the law.
So... It's not ok to have a single RCMP constable on Deer Island, but it is ok to leave 700+ people without any law enforcement overnight every night? I live here. It would take constables over an hour to get here in the middle of the night from St George. Apparently the safety of the constable is more important than the safety of the community.
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Deer Islanders 'all happy' after alleged vigilantism rids island of accused thieves, says senior
Diane Bustin, 65, says she and other residents feel safer with 'hoodlums' gone
For 35 years, Deer Island resident Diane Bustin never locked her doors.
"This place used to be the safest place on the planet to live," she said of the 45-square-kilometre island in the Bay of Fundy.
But for "well over a year" now, the 65-year-old widow says she never goes to bed without locking them.
And she says she's not alone.
The island's roughly 700 residents have been plagued by thefts, said Bustin — everything from gasoline and batteries to fishing equipment.
"Like, I mean it's just been really bad."
Fishermen have been particularly hard-hit after a disappointing lobster season, she said.
"The fishermen, work really, really hard for what they have. … And you know, to have your boats and your equipment stolen is not a fun thing to have happen when you're going through a rough time.
"And everybody's going through a rough time."
Bustin and others CBC News has spoken to blame people they allege use drugs and visit the island at night just as the ferry service shuts down until morning, when it's even more difficult for RCMP from the St. George detachment to respond.
RCMP remained at the scene Thursday of the suspicious fire. (Roger Cosman/CBC)
On Wednesday, RCMP issued a statement warning the public against acts of vigilantism as they investigate a series of incidents on Deer Island that saw a car heavily damaged by a group of people at the ferry terminal and a building burned to the ground.
Police "do not condone the public taking policing matters into their own hands," said spokesperson Cpl. Stéphane Esculier. It can put them and others at risk, and they could face charges.
Several officers from the St. George detachment were on the island Thursday, along with members of the forensic identification unit and community crime reduction unit.
'Islanders have taken a stand'
Helen Richardson alerted fellow islanders Tuesday at 11 p.m., when a car believed to belong to the alleged lawbreakers was spotted on the last ferry to Deer Island.
"A car full apparently! Be vigilant Islanders," she posted on social media.
A rash of thefts prompted the post, Richardson told CBC.
"The theft has escalated to every night someone is robbed. Gas, batteries, anything they can get their hands on," she said.
RCMP have cordoned off some tents that are on the property of the abandoned residence destroyed by fire as they continue their investigation. (Sam Farley/CBC)
The number of alleged lawbreakers has also increased, according to Richardson, who noted a "tent encampment" had sprouted on the property where RCMP say an abandoned residence was destroyed in a suspicious fire.
"Islanders have taken a stand and told them they are not welcome here," said Richardson.
"I hope everyone can take a lesson from us and stand up and take back our communities."
Alleged vigilantes deserve 'pat on the back'
Bustin said she was "flabbergasted" when she heard about the events and doesn't have any first-hand knowledge of them.
"I just know that they were put on the ferry and told to go back to the mainland and not come back," she said.
As for the fire at the abandoned residence where the alleged lawbreakers stayed, Bustin said she heard it was caused by lightning.
If it was vigilantism by residents frustrated by a lack of on-site policing and an alleged lack of police action, Bustin doesn't think they should face any charges.
"If anything, they should get a pat on the back," she said. "I know Deer Islanders are all happy."
The pile of rubble left by the fire appeared to still be smouldering on Thursday morning. (Roger Cosman/CBC)
"You can just imagine being on this island and — do you know how many old people live here? And old widows that …know these people are traipsing around all night long? It's just not comforting.
"And it's not right that those people just came over here and thought that they were just going to disrupt this whole little island."
MLA not judging alleged vigilantes
Andrea Anderson-Mason, the MLA for Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West, said she doesn't know if the incidents under investigation were vigilantism, but she believes they were.
For "many months," a growing number of frustrated residents and business owners have called her office, concerned about increased criminal activity, particularly thefts, she said.
"It seems like every day people are just waking up saying, 'Am I going to have gas [left] today?' or 'What's going to be stolen out of my yard, or off of my vessel, or off the wharf?'"
It's a dramatic change from a year ago, when the most common complaint she received was about speeding motorists, noted Anderson-Mason.
Andrea Anderson-Mason, the MLA for Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West, said she believes Deer Island residents reached a 'point of desperation' and 'took things into their own hands.' (Roger Cosman/CBC)
People also alleged they had contacted the RCMP, but officers didn't seem to be responding, according to the MLA.
She said she tried to assure them the province has set aside an extra $22 million to hire up to 88 more RCMP or public safety officers provincewide — albeit none specifically earmarked for Deer Island.
"But we just haven't seen it yet, and the local residents haven't felt it."
"And I think that what you saw this week in Deer Island was the tipping point — people just reaching the limit of their frustration and residents felt like they were not getting the response that they needed and they took things into their own hands.
"I certainly don't say that with judgment," added Anderson-Mason, the former minister of justice and attorney general, who, as a lawyer, has represented a variety of clients in civil matters both at the Court of Queen's Bench and the Court of Appeal. "I think that what you actually saw was a point of desperation."
RCMP should be proactive, not reactive
Islanders are keeping tight-lipped about what happened, said Anderson-Mason, who visited on Wednesday. She suspects they aren't "proud that things had to go the direction that they went."
She doesn't think it's a true reflection of who islanders are, either, she said. "Islanders take care of one another and they're some of the most kind, giving, respectful people that you will ever meet."
The one thing she did hear from people, she said, is, "'Why now? Why a significant investigation into what happened when we've been asking for help for months?"
Residents want to see proactive attention from the RCMP instead of reactive, she said.
It took 17 volunteer firefighters about four hours to get the fire out and ensure it didn't spread into the woods, the volunteer fire chief has said. (Roger Cosman/CBC)
Anderson-Mason contends it's unacceptable Deer Island lost its own policing years ago and thinks a resident Mountie is needed again.
In the meantime, she said she has talked to residents about the possibility of setting up a community watch.
Bustin said she doesn't know what the solutions are to overnight crime, after the ferry stops running, when no police are nearby.
"I'm just glad that those hoodlums aren't here anymore. And in my opinion, that's what they were, is hoodlums."
"I don't think they're coming back this way."
"The NBHP had 114 uniformed officers commanded by a chief and deputy chief and supported by civilian staff at the detachments. NBHP divided the province into two regions with a staff sergeant being responsible for each region.
In July 1988 the recently elected government of Premier Frank McKenna announced that the responsibilities of the NBHP would be contracted to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police "J" Division"
RCMP warn against vigilantism as they investigate series of Deer Island incidents
Warning comes after car was heavily damaged by a group and a building was destroyed in a 'suspicious' fire
Police "do not condone the public taking policing matters into their own hands," New Brunswick RCMP spokesperson Cpl. Stéphane Esculier said in a statement Wednesday.
"Doing this puts themselves and others in their communities at risk, including someone being seriously injured or killed, or facing arrest and legal proceedings for their own actions."
The warning comes as investigators from the St. George detachment are on Deer Island, with members from specialized units, such a forensic identification and community crime reduction, on their way, Esculier told CBC News.
"We're definitely dedicated to conduct the investigation fully."
Started late Tuesday night
The series of incidents started Tuesday, shortly after 11 p.m., when RCMP received a report of a disturbance at the ferry terminal on Deer Island, said Esculier.
A car was "heavily damaged by a group of unknown individuals" and returned to the mainland. There, St. George officers spoke to the people whose car was damaged.
About an hour later, police were called about a fire at an "abandoned residence" on the island, Esculier said.
"According to preliminary investigation, it would appear that the fire would be suspicious in nature, most likely criminal."
Then, on Wednesday, around 10:30 a.m., police received a report of a theft of fuel at the ferry terminal on Deer Island.
No officer stationed on island for years
Esculier could not immediately comment on reports of alleged vigilantism by local residents over recent thefts, which have included everything from gas and batteries to fishing equipment and lobsters, according to some people CBC has spoken to.
It's all part of the investigation, he said, noting it could be a lengthy one. Anyone with any information about the incidents can call St. George RCMP or Crime Stoppers.
Esculier confirmed an RCMP officer used to be stationed on the island but not for "a few years." Calls are handled by St. George instead. He could not immediately say why.
Deer Island is cut off from the mainland between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. when the ferry stops running. (Robert Gallant)
It takes about 20 minutes to drive from St. George to Letete to catch the ferry to Deer Island. The crossing takes about 20 minutes, according to the Department of Transportation's website.
Roughly 700 people live on the 45-square-kilometre island.
"Even if there's no officer present 24 hours a day … there's always RCMP officers that are in position to respond to urgent priority calls," Esculier said.
Asked about the fact the island has no ferry service between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m., he said RCMP can commission the ferry after-hours, if necessary.
Investigations take time
Esculier said he understands "there's definitely frustration" about crime rates in affected communities but said RCMP take all reports of crime seriously.
"Sometimes investigations take longer than what the public may believe" they should, he said. But police have follow a process to gather enough evidence to support any charges.
"We need communities and citizens to work together with us — legally and safely — in order to protect everyone."
Residents 'got fed up ... had enough'
Volunteer fire Chief Dwayne Richardson said the "back history" is that residents believe a growing number of people who use drugs, including some who steal things, come and go from the island.
"This group of people stands out as problem people, and every time they show up, you know, there's stuff being stolen from the wharves — whether it's gas cans, or batteries, or inverters off the vessels," Richardson said. "You know, it's obvious when they arrive on Deer Island that things are going missing.
"They felt that they had immunity, either from the people or from the law. And I guess the people of the island just got fed up [Tuesday] night and had enough of it."
Firefighters were called just after midnight Tuesday to a fire at a location where the alleged lawbreakers stay "intermittently," said Richardson, noting some tents were also in the yard.
By the time crews arrived, the "old house" was in flames.
"It was beyond doing, you know, anything with," Richardson said. "So it was basically just a defensive operation and just keep it from spreading into the woods."
Seventeen firefighters battled the blaze until just after 4:30 a.m.
The house and small structure behind it both burned to the ground.
Nobody was there at the time, said Richardson.
Island 'a lot different' than it used to be
He said it was his understanding that the people who normally stay there were met coming off the ferry about an hour earlier by 30 to 40 local residents.
The residents had a discussion with them, and then the ferry, which had stopped running for the night, made an extra run to return the people to the mainland, according to Richardson.
This is the first [time] in my life that something this drastic's happened.
- Dwyane Richardson, volunteer fire chief and resident
"This is the first [time] in my life that something this drastic's happened," he said.
Richardson, 54, a married father of two grown sons, has lived on Deer Island his whole life.
"Things are a lot different than they used to be when I grew up here and even, you know, when my kids were smaller," he said.
Drugs are "more and more readily available."
"And it's like anything in a small area, you know, everybody knows your business and … who's doing what."
The lack of onsite policing is a concern for some residents, said Richardson, who described himself as being among those "frustrated."
"We're a remote community, you know, with a ferry that runs from six in the morning till 11 o'clock at night, so if something happens like this, you know, there's no police readily available," he said.
"I think people want to be treated equally … whether it's policing, or whatever it is."
Too Too Funny EH?
Diane Bustin, 65, says she and other residents feel safer with 'hoodlums' gone
Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon · CBC News · Posted: Jul 13, 2023 4:24 PM ADT
So now they want to go after the citizens who are making their community safer.
What are they going to do?
so, as I understand the article, the RCMP are going to send a group of officers to the island to investigate/charge the residents who drove the drug dealers & theives out. Seems backwards to me.
Reply to Daniel Henwell
"We're definitely dedicated to conduct the investigation fully."
Maybe focus on the drug dealers and theft rings? Crazy how they are on the wrong side of this incident.
In McAdam, they put BM in jail meanwhile the “victim” went on to sexually assault somebody at gun point.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/blake-scott-mcadam-vigilante-1.6841869
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I enjoyed that circus
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I agree
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It's the judges and prosecutors who are letting them out of jail.
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Like I was?
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Good for them. They pay taxes like the rest of us, yet get no policing. Stands ro reason that they'd reach their breaking point. When all other means have proven unreliable or unavailable, you still need to take care of the problem. Well done! Hope to see more of it all over this province.
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Me Too
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People are beginning to stand up for themselves and it’s about time. They are tired of the police not doing anything and when the police do try the courts let them walk. Bravo to this community for stepping up.
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Yup
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Union says RCMP decision not to comment further on mass shooting 'difficult' for front-line officers
The union representing RCMP officers in Nova Scotia says its members are finding it challenging that the force has stopped releasing information about the April mass shooting, especially as they continue to struggle with the personal toll of responding to the killing of 22 people, including their colleague Const. Heidi Stevenson.
On April 18 and 19, a gunman travelled nearly 200 kilometres through rural communities shooting strangers, neighbours and acquaintances while masquerading as a Mountie.
Families of the victims are now suing the RCMP and have questioned whether the force did enough to stop the killer and warn of the danger. They've also been critical of the amount of information they've received about their loved ones' deaths. CBC News and other media organizations have gone to court to unseal search warrant documents in the case.
The last press conference about the attacks was June 4 and in recent months, the RCMP has repeatedly declined interviews about its investigation. In response to media requests, it has sent the same statement reiterating its commitment to accountability, transparency and participating in the public inquiry, which it describes as "the most appropriate and unbiased opportunity" to provide the facts about what happened.
Brian Sauvé, president of the National Police Federation, said he wouldn't second-guess the force's decision to stop releasing information, but acknowledged front-line officers are finding it hard.
"Our members want closure. Our members want ... to essentially be vindicated in their actions," said Sauvé, whose group represents approximately 1,060 RCMP officers stationed in Nova Scotia.
"I'll say that because from what I've seen, heard, read, those on the ground — and I'm not talking about command decisions, I'm talking about those on the ground who've responded to this incident — acted and worked in an extremely heroic manner with the resources available to them.
"For membership not to hear the RCMP support, that is challenging to them. And to wait for an inquiry to have their day and their say is difficult."
RCMP Supt. Darren Campbell shows a map tracking the gunman's movements during the rampage on April 18 and 19 during an April 24 press conference. Part of the RCMP’s justification for not providing additional comments about the mass shooting has been their ongoing investigation into where the shooter’s guns came from and whether he acted alone. (CBC)
Members not allowed to speak with media
The mass casualty commission has started its work and a final report is expected in November 2022.
Meanwhile, the police investigation — which includes looking at where the shooter obtained his weapons and whether he had help — continues. Two weeks ago, the RCMP announced three people, including the gunman's spouse, her brother and brother-in-law, face a charge related to allegedly providing the gunman with ammunition. The Mounties have not answered questions or provided any information beyond a press release.
Individuals members of the RCMP are not permitted to speak to the media and could face disciplinary actions by doing so. Several officers declined to speak to CBC about their experiences in recent months, with some citing the possible repercussions.
Gilles Blinn, who retired from the RCMP in New Brunswick in 2018, said he's frequently in touch with former colleagues in Nova Scotia who are struggling with criticism of their actions during the mass shooting and who are frustrated that they can't defend themselves.
"They're far removed from all the decisions that are made at headquarters in Halifax and headquarters in Ottawa. They have no say in what's going on ... it's like they're gagged," Blinn said.
"They feel like they're not supported at the top. And any manager knows this, that if your people aren't happy under you, you have bad morale…. I think the morale is very low in Nova Scotia currently due to the fact that no one is speaking out on their behalf."
Two RCMP officers observe a moment of silence to honour Const. Heidi Stevenson and the other 21 victims of the mass killings at a checkpoint on Portapique Road in Portapique, N.S., on Friday, April 24, 2020. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)
Blinn spent 31 years with the RCMP, including eight on the staff organization that preceded the union. For many years, the former staff sergeant originally from Digby County answered media calls. He'd like to see the RCMP provide more information that could clear up questions about how officers responded to one of the country's worst mass killings in modern history.
"You don't want to hamper your investigation. You don't want to hamper your upcoming coroner's inquest or anything else that's going on. And you have to be very diplomatic into what you're going to say. But there are things that I believe that they could say to satisfy all parties involved," he said.
Blinn's son was one of the officers who responded in Portapique on April 18, though he stressed he couldn't speak to his son's experience and didn't know exactly what happened that night or the following morning.
During his time as an RCMP staff sergeant, Gilles Blinn conducted media interviews on behalf of the force. He retired in 2018 after 31 years. (Submitted by Gilles Blinn)
But many of the people he knows are also grappling with the horror of what unfolded, Blinn said. Overall, he said Mounties don't feel supported by their leadership or the public.
"I know of some that turn to liquor. I know of some that were so traumatized that they've retired," he said.
"The effects don't happen right away, for some members it'll take years.... The trauma of seeing all this death and destruction and the agony of the victims' families, which is what never goes away. You know, seeing their loved ones pick up the pieces after someone's been killed. And trust me, I've been there many times, so you never forget it."
Police block the highway in Debert, N.S., on Sunday, April 19, 2020. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)
'I'm seeing burnout'
The RCMP offered employees the option of taking leave in the wake of the shootings. The force said some members took time off but would not disclose how many as it involves private health information.
Some employees are performing modified duties and others are on different types of leave, Cpl. Lisa Croteau said in an email. The RCMP employs about 1,450 people in the province, though not all are members of the union.
CBC has confirmed some officers remain off work, in part, because they're dealing with the psychological impact of responding.
Sauvé said across the board, members have been hurting alongside their communities in a year that has been particularly challenging for policing. He said COVID-19 has meant fewer officers are being trained to fill vacancies, recruitment remains low, and the union is starting collective bargaining after nearly four years without a raise.
On top of that, protests against policing and police brutality in the U.S. and Canada have prompted widespread criticism of the profession.
The fact that officers have taken time to deal with trauma is positive, the union president said, as it signals an understanding that it's OK to admit to needing help.
"We don't have to, you know, suck it up and soldier on any longer.... the RCMP, as well as Canadians, are starting to realize that trauma affects everybody differently and recovery from traumatic events can take longer for some than it can for others," said Sauvé.
"They had to respond to the incident. They've had to deal with the aftermath and the investigations of that incident, at the same time grieving the loss of one of their colleagues as well as some of their friends."
Children sign a Canadian flag at an impromptu memorial in front of the RCMP detachment on April 20, 2020, in Enfield, N.S. It was the home detachment of slain RCMP constable Heidi Stevenson, who was one of 22 people killed during Sunday's shooting rampage. (Tim Krochak/Getty Images)
The union said close to 100 officers travelled to Nova Scotia to help investigate the shootings and backfill officers who took time off in the months since the tragedy.
But even still, he said the force is facing "big morale challenges" exacerbated by COVID-19 and staffing stretched to the limit. Sauvé said many officers have been denied vacation time due to operational requirements and have been working "day in and day out."
"I'm seeing burnout. I am worried about it," said Sauvé.
Thirteen Deadly Hours: The Nova Scotia Shooting
Wednesday, 27 April 2022
YO Marco Mendicino Methinks Franky Boy McKenna and Petey Baby MacKay understand why I am laughing at all the lawyers and the RCMP today Nesy Pas?
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RCMP Sussex New Brunswick
January 30, 2007
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Mr. David Amos
Dear Mr. Amos:
This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
Graham of the RCMP °J" Division in Fredericton.
Sincerely,
Honourable Michael B. Murphy
Minister of Health
CM/cb
CLEARLY THE RCMP/GRC AND THE KPMG PALS DO NOT KNOW
HOW TO READ LET ALONE COUNT BEANS EH?
Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,
John.Foran@gnb.ca, Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,
"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
"Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have n
Dear Mr. Amos,
Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada and
the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
Sincerely,
Warren McBeath, Cpl.
GRC Caledonia RCMP
Traffic Services NCO
Ph: (506) 387-2222
Fax: (506) 387-4622
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RCMP surprised by New Brunswick's concerns about top cop
Letter says Mountie HQ wasn’t told of problems before cabinet minister Ted Flemming triggered removal
Commissioner Brenda Lucki told the province's public safety minister it was "unfortunate" that no one told her or her senior management team that they had "concerns" about assistant commissioner Larry Tremblay.
"There may have been an opportunity to proactively address some of the issues you've raised," Lucki wrote to then-minister Ted Flemming in a July 29, 2021 letter obtained by CBC News.
Flemming had written to Lucki two weeks earlier, invoking a section of the province's policing contract with the RCMP that allowed him to ask the force to replace Tremblay.
Ted Flemming was public safety minister when New Brunswick pushed for the removal of Larry Tremblay as assistant commissioner of the RCMP's J Division. (Joe McDonald/CBC)
"I do not invoke article 7.4 lightly, and I regret that it has become necessary," Flemming wrote in his July 15 letter.
That section says the minister can request a replacement if the commissioner is convinced "sufficient cause" exists that the head of J division "no longer commands the confidence" of the provincial government.
Flemming's letter opened by saying "as you are aware," Tremblay "no longer commands my confidence" to act on drug crime and be accountable to local communities.
In her response, Lucki said "neither I, nor my management, were aware of any concerns" about Tremblay before Flemming's letter.
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The Department of Public Safety turned down an interview request Tuesday. "We have no additional comment on this matter," said spokesperson Geoffrey Downey.
Lucki's letter said she hoped the RCMP could work with the province to reach "a positive resolution that will ensure all parties involved are treated with respect and dignity" without having to invoke Article 7.4.
When CBC first revealed Tremblay's removal last year, J Division spokesperson Angela Chang claimed Article 7.4 hadn't been invoked and Tremblay made a "personal decision" to retire at the end of October.
Chang later withdraw the assertion the article hadn't been invoked.
The RCMP rejected an interview request Tuesday. Spokesperson Robin Percival repeated that Tremblay had made a personal decision to retire effective Oct. 31, 2021.
CBC News obtained Lucki's letter to Flemming this week through an access to information request to the RCMP.
In his letter to Lucki, Flemming complained that Tremblay did not help the Higgs government "drive significant change" in policing, especially on drug crime.
The minister said in an interview last October that J Division was "not having the kind of leadership that we felt we needed" and the situation was "out of control."
He said the province wanted to "declare war" on drug dealers.
Tremblay was removed from the job in J Division last year after a request from the province. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Opposition Liberal MLA Rob McKee says Flemming often speaks about the independence of the justice and policing system but his decision to push out Tremblay "demonstrated just the opposite."
"The fact that now it's coming back that he did not even raise concerns with them is even more concerning," McKee said.
"I think this shows that after the fact, Lucki is saying that she felt due process wasn't respected in this case."
The province provided an extra $2.3 million for J Division's crime reduction unit last year to try to reduce drug crime, part of a five year addiction and mental health action plan.
This year's budget added another $3.3 million.
Tremblay was named assistant commissioner of the RCMP for New Brunswick in 2016.
Three days after CBC News revealed Flemming's push to remove him, the RCMP said it had decided "to not proceed" with appointing Chief Superintendent Kevin Leahy, head of the Parliamentary Protective Service in Ottawa, as his replacement.
Carleton MLA Bill Hogan took over the role of public safety minister in the Higgs cabinet earlier this year, assuming the role held by Ted Flemming, who remains justice minister and attorney-general. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
In January, DeAnna Hill was put in the assistant commissioner's job instead.
Flemming himself was later replaced in the role of public safety minister.
Premier Blaine Higgs shuffled Carleton MLA Bill Hogan into the position in February, saying it would help "ramp up our intensity" in fighting drug crime.
He said it wasn't a reflection on Flemming, who remains attorney general and justice minister.
"I don't think it's a case of Minister Flemming not being able to continue," Higgs said. "I think it's a situation where we're putting an emphasis on public safety and rural communities and communities throughout our province that have continued to face crime issues."
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>>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos,
>>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
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>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:16:38 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn Laura Lee Langley, Karen Hudson and Joanne Munro I just
>>> called all three of your offices to inform you of my next lawsuit
>>> against Nova Scotia
>>> To: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca, Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca,
>>> Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
>>> Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> https://novascotia.ca/exec_
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>>> Laura Lee Langley
>>> 1700 Granville Street, 5th Floor
>>> One Government Place
>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1X5
>>> Phone: (902) 424-8940
>>> Fax: (902) 424-0667
>>> Email: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca
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>>> Email: Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca
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>>> https://novascotia.ca/sns/ceo.
>>>
>>> Joanne Munro:
>>> 1505 Barrington Street, 14-South
>>> Maritime Centre
>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 3K5
>>> Phone: (902) 424-4089
>>> Fax: (902) 424-5510
>>> Email: Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
>>>
>>> If you don't wish to speak to me before I begin litigation then I
>>> suspect the Integrity Commissioner New Brunswick or the Federal Crown
>>> Counsel can explain the email below and the documents hereto attached
>>> to you and your Premier etc.
>>>
>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> 902 800 0369
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Good Day Sir
>>>
>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>
>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>
>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>
>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>>
>>> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>>>
>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>>
>>>
>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>
>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>>
>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>
>>> Date: 20151223
>>>
>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>
>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>
>>> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>
>>> BETWEEN:
>>>
>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>
>>> Plaintiff
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>
>>> Defendant
>>>
>>> ORDER
>>>
>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>
>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>> in its entirety.
>>>
>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
>>> he stated:
>>>
>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>
>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>> Police.
>>>
>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>
>>>
>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>
>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>> Judge
>>>
>>>
>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>
>>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>
>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>> most
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>>>
>>> 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>
>>> January 13, 2015
>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>
>>> December 8, 2014
>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>
>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau?
>>>
>>>
>>> Vertias Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> 902 800 0369
>>>
>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>
>>> Subject:
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> January 30, 2007
>>>
>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>
>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>
>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>> Minister of Health
>>>
>>> CM/cb
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>
>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>
>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>
>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>> United States Senate
>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>
>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>> raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that
>>> these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in
>>> contact
>>> with you about this previously.
>>>
>>> Very truly yours,
>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>
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To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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