Is Canada's voting system unconstitutional?
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RE CCF will argue constitutionality of First Past The Post System as an intervenor in new case
David Amos<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> | Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 12:11 PM |
| To: rphillips@theccf.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "pierre.poilievre" <pierre.poilievre@parl.gc.ca>, "jagmeet.singh" <jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, "John.Williamson" <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, "rob.moore" <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, "Jenica.Atwin" <Jenica.Atwin@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca> | |
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Springtide Co." <info@springtide.ngo> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:07:30 -0700 Subject: Thank you for your email Re: RE CCF will argue constitutionality of First Past The Post System as an intervenor in new case To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail. Hi, and thanks for your email. We regularly monitor this account, and will do our best to you with a response within five business days. If your request is urgent, or a media inquiry please contact our Board Chair at chair@springtide.ngo. Thanks, The Springtide Team ---------- Original message ---------- From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail. Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 11:07:25 -0300 Subject: RE CCF will argue constitutionality of First Past The Post System as an intervenor in new case To: chair@springtide.ngo, info@springtide.ngo, RouleauN@gmail.com, ahonickman@jhbarristers.com Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com> https://davidraymondamos3. Wednesday, 23 August 2023 CCF will argue constitutionality of First Past The Post System as an intervenor in new case Get in touch P.O. BOX 40003 Robie Street PO Halifax, NS Canada B3K 0E4 902.989.3668 Nicolas M. Rouleau Professional Corporation 41 Burnside Dr. Toronto ON M6G 2M9 T. 416.885.1361 F. 1.888.850.1306 RouleauN@gmail.com | |
Is Canada's Voting System Unconstitutional? No - and that's a silly idea.
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Lise Ouellette and Joanna Everitt made statements and answered questions.
At 3:05 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 3:19 p.m., the sitting resumed.
J.P. Lewis and Leonid Elbert made statements and answered questions.
John Gagnon, Helen Chenell, David Kersey, James Norfolk, Maurice Harquail, Patrick Lynch, Roch Leblanc, Margaret Connell, Brenda Sansom, J.P. Kirby, Stephanie Coburn, Mat Willman, Renée Davis, Wendy Robbins, Hamish Wright, Margo Sheppard, Joel Howe, Andrew Maclean and Jonathan Richardson made statements.
At 5:24 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 6:30 p.m., the sitting resumed.
James Wilson, Paul Howe, John Filliter and Sue Duguay made statements and answered questions.
John Gagnon, Andrea Moody, Maurice Harquail, Romana Sehic, David Raymond Amos, Julie Maitland, Daniel Hay, Nicholas Decarie, Rhonda Connell, Gail Campbell and Jason Pugh made statements.
At 8:28 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
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Team
Springtide is currently a volunteer-run and led organization.
Board of Directors
Lucy Hulford (Chair) | chair@springtide.ngo
Kelsey Lane
Jesse Hitchcock (Charter Challenge Co-Lead)
Grace Chitate (Treasurer)
Matt Risser (Charter Challenge Co-Lead)
Get in touch
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Charter Challenge Update - In Court Next Month!
August 18, 2023
Our date in court is approaching rapidly and there is important and exciting work underway.
The Charter Challenge for Fair Voting will be heard in the Ontario Superior Court in Toronto next month (Sep 25-27). The hearings will be open to the public, and we’ll send you all the details as soon as we have them confirmed.
In the meantime, here’s an update on the work over the past month and a half. At the end of June, we told you that, thanks to your generous support, we had reached the very significant milestone of having submitted our factum (the written argument for the case).
Since then, four external organizations have submitted supplementary arguments of their own (called interventions) - three supporting our case, and one arguing against.
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Fair Vote Canada submitted a review of electoral
reform attempts throughout Canadian history, clearly demonstrating that
previous efforts were thwarted by partisan self-interest and urging the
court to act to defend voters’ democratic rights.
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The UK-based Electoral Reform Society reinforced many of our core arguments, and noted that the issues we identified play out with similar effects in the UK.
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Apathy is Boring is a Canadian advocacy
organization seeking to improve engagement and participation of youth in
our democracy. Their submission argues that our current voting system
creates a number of significant barriers to participation by and
representation of younger voters.
- Finally, the Canadian Constitution Foundation doesn’t directly take a position on the relative merits of different voting systems, but argues that our first-past-the-post system is “constitutionalized” and that the court cannot force the government to change it. We disagree, and our lawyer, Nicolas Rouleau, submitted a compelling and well-argued response to their submission.
What’s Next?
The federal government is expected to submit their written argument very shortly, at which point all the written documents will be released publicly. The team will read the government’s argument very carefully, and take it into account as we prepare oral arguments.
Thank you for your continued support. More to come soon!
Jesse Hitchcock, Springtide & Antony Hodgson, Fair Voting BC
Current Status:
- Court date is confirmed! The case will be heard September 25 - 27, 2023.
- The case was filed with the Ontario Superior Court of Justice on October 2019.
- Served government with affidavit and evidence package in May 2021.
- Government affidavits received in late Fall 2022.
How you can help
The main way you can help is to support the case financially. We need to raise another $25,000 to cover the costs of presenting our case in court. You can support the case for as little as a dollar a month.
What to expect
- Fall 2022 - Once evidence and a response from the government is received, Charter Challenge lawyer, Nicolas Rouleau will start preparing for cross-examination and response affidavits.
- Spring 2023 - Once we have received the government’s evidence and replied to it, Charter Challenge lawyer, Nicolas Rouleau, will draft the factum
- At each step, we set a goal based on our estimate of the costs, and ask supporters to contribute to help us reach that goal, and to ensure the case can continue to move forward.
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This project is a collaboration between Springtide and Fair Voting BC.
Nicolas M. Rouleau
Appeals & Constitutional Litigation
Nicolas M. Rouleau is an appellate and constitutional lawyer. He frequently argues criminal, civil, and constitutional appeals before the Supreme Court of Canada, the Court of Appeal for Ontario, other provincial courts of appeal, and the Federal Court of Appeal. He also provides advice and opinions on complex or novel legal matters. He was called to the Bar in 2007.
Other lawyers regularly seek out Nicolas to prepare and argue their appeals, their applications for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, their constitutional motions at trial, and their judicial reviews. He is highly regarded for his clear and persuasive advocacy and writing, particularly on the most difficult cases. He reviews potential Supreme Court of Canada cases for Pro Bono Law Ontario’s Supreme Court Leave to Appeal Assistance Project. In 2018-2019, he also served as the Director of Research for the Long-Term Care Homes Public Inquiry.
Prior to starting his own practice, Nicolas clerked for the Honourable Justice Marie Deschamps at the Supreme Court of Canada. He holds a Master of the Science of Law (JSM) from Stanford University and an LL.B. magna cum laude from the French Common Law Program at the University of Ottawa. He has also studied at the University of Toronto, where he is currently the co-chair of the Monday Club as well as a mentor at Massey College. He has received numerous academic scholarships, published on constitutional law and legal philosophy, and presented at several conferences. He frequently appears on Radio-Canada and CBC, and has hosted Toronto’s popular interdisciplinary lecture series: The Treehouse Talks.
In addition to his Canadian legal practice, Nicolas advises the Minister Responsible for Francophone Affairs in Ontario as a member of her Provincial Advisory Committee and sits on the Board of Directors of the Canadian International Council. He previously lived for a few years in India and West Africa, where he worked on international development and taught law. He continues to consult internationally on issues of law, democracy, and development.
He is fluently bilingual in French and English.
Nicolas M. Rouleau
Appeals & Constitutional Litigation
CCF will argue constitutionality of First Past The Post System as an intervenor in new case
TORONTO: The Canadian Constitution Foundation (CCF) has been granted intervenor status in a case heading to Ontario Superior Court this fall by a group of organizations challenging the constitutionality of the first-past-the-post (FPTP) voting system. The case is Fair Voting and Springtide v Attorney General of Canada, and the CCF will be arguing that the FPTP system is constitutional.
“This challenge is being brought by advocacy groups attempting to use the courts to achieve what the legislature has declined to do,” said CCF Litigation Director Christine Van Geyn. “There is nothing in either the Charter or the Constitution Act, 1867, that suggests either directly or indirectly that the first-past-the-post system is unconstitutional. The voting right provisions of the Charter are neutral as to form for voting, and a system of constituency-based representation and a House of Commons is referred to in multiple sections of the Constitution Act, 1867. This is the voting system Canada has had since confederation, and it is absurd to suggest it is now somehow now unconstitutional.”
The CCF will be making arguments about the principles of interpretive harmony, and that the FPTP system remains constitutional, as it has been since confederation, absent any clear intent to the contrary.
The CCF is represented in this case by Asher Honickman and Kristopher Kinsinger of Jordan Honickman Barristers. The hearing is scheduled for September 2023.
“The Charter was not intended to upend all – or even most – of what came before it, but rather reaffirmed the core tenets of Canada’s original constitutional settlement,” said Kristopher Kinsinger. “Our interpretation of the Charter must therefore be rigorously guided by the words of the Constitution in light of their historical context and larger objects and purposes. There is no question that first-past-the-post was constitutional as of the adoption of the Charter, and remains so for the simple reason that there is nothing in the constitutional text that says (or even suggests) otherwise.”
If you’re interested in supporting the CCF’s work, you can make a tax-deductible charitable donation at theCCF.ca/donate/
Joanna Baron, B.C.L./LL.B
Executive Director
Joanna Baron has been the CCF’s Executive Director since 2019. Previous to that, Joanna was the founding Director of the Runnymede Society. A native of Toronto, Joanna studied classical liberal arts at St. John’s College, MD, and earned civil and common law degrees at McGill University. She clerked at the Court of Appeal for Ontario and was called to the bar in Ontario in 2013. Following her clerkship, Joanna worked in barrister’s chambers in London, UK as a Harold G. Fox Scholar. Following her return to Canada in 2014, Joanna practiced criminal law with the late Edward L. Greenspan, appearing at all levels of court in Ontario, including the Supreme Court of Canada.
Asher Honickman – Partner
Asher is passionate about the law. He has a diverse practice that includes civil and commercial litigation, defamation, insurance, employment law, personal injury, long term disability, professional misconduct, along with administrative and constitutional law. Asher has appeared at every level of court in Ontario, along with the Supreme Court of Canada.
Asher became a partner at a Bay Street firm just five years after being called to the Bar. The reason is simple: he has a proven track record, offers competitive rates, and is extremely dedicated to client satisfaction. Asher is known for his passionate advocacy inside the courtroom while always taking the time with his clients to ensure that they are comfortable with the litigation process and action plan.
Asher has co-founded two legal societies, Advocates for the Rule of Law (ARL) in 2014, followed by the Runnymede Society in 2016. ARL has intervened several times before the Supreme Court of Canada, while the Runnymede Society has established chapters in law schools across Canada.
Asher’s writing has appeared in the National Post, the Toronto Star and other news media and he has published scholarly articles in several legal journals. His work has been cited by the Supreme Court of Canada along with other Canadian courts.
Asher has also appeared on CBC, CTV and on various radio shows to discuss the legal issues of the day.
In 2020, Asher was the recipient of the prestigious Dan Soberman Outstanding Young Alumni Award (for early-career success) from his alma mater, Queen’s Law. The award recognized that Asher “has become a respected public voice on legal issues.”
In his spare time, Asher enjoys playing music, hockey, reading and writing, and, above all, spending time with his wife and two young daughters.
Education and Professional Involvement
Asher graduated from Huron College at the University of Western Ontario in 2006 with an Honour’s Specialization in History. He was the recipient of numerous academic awards and scholarships, along with the Huron College Gold Medal. Asher attended law school at Queen’s University and was awarded the Course Prize in Public law along with scholarships. He was called to the Ontario Bar in 2011.
Asher is a member of the Canadian Bar Association, the Ontario Bar Association and the Advocates’ Society.
Email: ahonickman@jhbarristers.com
Michael Jordan – Partner
Kristopher Kinsinger is an Ontario lawyer and the national director of the Runnymede Society. Kristopher received his Honours Bachelor of Arts from the University of Waterloo in 2016, where he majored in history in the Arts and Business co-op program. He graduated from Waterloo on the Dean’s Honours List and with the Departmental Award for Distinguished Academic Achievement as the top graduating student from the Department of History. In 2019, Kristopher received his Juris Doctor from Osgoode Hall Law School of York University, where he was awarded the Bora Laskin Prize at convocation for writing the best paper on the topic of law, religion and society. He articled with Miller Thomson LLP and was called to the Ontario bar in 2020. Kristopher completed his Master of Laws at McGill University’s Faculty of Law in 2021 on a Joseph Armand Bombardier Canada Graduate Scholarship, where he was also the recipient of the Pilarczyk Graduate Award in Law.
Kristopher currently serves as the managing editor of The A.V. Dicey Law Review, a legal journal jointly published by the Runnymede Society, LexisNexis, and Advocates for the Rule of Law. In addition to these roles, Kristopher is pursuing a broad-based litigation practice as counsel at Jordan Honickman Barristers in Toronto, and is completing a year-long NextGen Fellowship with the Cardus think tank. He also serves as the technology liaison and communications officer, respectively, of the Ontario Bar Association and Canadian Bar Association’s Constitutional and Human Rights Sections, as well as the assistant secretary on the the board of directors of Christian Legal Fellowship, Canada’s national association of Christian lawyers and law students. Kristopher is a member of Hespeler Baptist Church in Cambridge, where he currently serves as the deacon of administration.
In his free time, Kristopher can be found reading, writing, listening to vinyl, tweeting, hiking, drinking coffee, volunteering with his church’s youth group, or mapping out his next backcountry camping trip. He also dabbles in landscape, aerial and wildlife photography, and has recently begun experimenting with astrophotography.
Peter A. Milligan
Re Unfair Elections Acts and the ERRE nonsense etc So much for the Integrity of the sneaky lawyer Stephane Perrault and his many nasty assistants N'esy Pas Mr Cote?
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 10:53:05 -0400
Subject: Re Unfair Elections Acts and the ERRE nonsense etc So much
for the Integrity of the sneaky lawyer Stephane Perrault and his many
nasty assistants N'esy Pas Mr Cote?
To: Yves.Cote@elections.ca, political.financing@elections.
bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca, Bill.Morneau@canada.ca,
Bill.Casey@parl.gc.ca, Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca, andre@jafaust.com,
markandcaroline@gmail.com, postur@for.is,
francis.scarpaleggia@parl.gc.
mcu@justice.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca,
leader@greenparty.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca, kelly@lamrockslaw.com,
bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Ronald.Lamothe@elections.ca, jkingsle@uottawa.ca,
warren@daisygroup.ca, diane.davidson@uottawa.ca,
David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, david@lutz.nb.ca,
david.eidt@gnb.ca
Cc: Alistair.MacGregor@parl.gc.ca, Alain.Rayes@parl.gc.ca,
Ruby.Sahota@parl.gc.ca, cullen1@parl.gc.ca,
Sherry.Romanado@parl.gc.ca, John.Aldag@parl.gc.ca
Seems that this lawyer got his fancy not long after I posted this
email withinAndre Murray's old blog in 2014 N'esy Pas?
https://www.linkedin.com/in/
Stephane Perrault
Deputy Chief Electoral Officer, Regulatory Affairs, Elections Canada
Company Name Elections Canada
Dates Employed Jul 2014 – Present Employment Duration 3 yrs
Location Gatineau
Reponsible for Legal Services, Political Financing (Audit and
Systems), Regulatory Compliance and Electoral Integrity
http://thedavidamosrant.
Monday, 16 June 2014
Friday the 13th of June was MY Final Follow up: with the Very
Questionable Elections Dudes The lawyers played dumb as usual but some
of the help did not.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:31:31 -0300
Subject: Friday the 13th of June was MY Final Follow up: with the Very
Questionable Elections Dudes The lawyers played dumb as usual but some
of the help did not.
To: Yves.Cote@elections.ca, Michael.Quinn@electionsnb.ca,
Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca, Mackap@parl.gc.ca,
justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca,
justmin@gov.ns.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, Bob.Paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
terry.seguin@cbc.ca, jacques_poitras@cbc.ca,
danny.copp@fredericton.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, david.eidt@gnb.ca,
police@fredericton.ca, Premier@gnb.ca, briangallant10@gmail.com,
Davidc.Coon@gmail.com
Cc: Motomaniac333@gmail.com, Ronald.Lamothe@elections.ca,
jkingsle@uottawa.ca, warren@daisygroup.ca, diane.davidson@uottawa.ca,
David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca
It appears that they are all game to take me on in Federal Court.
So be it. I will pick the time and the location as is my right.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 17:06:28 -0300
Subject: Mr Hansen YOU are the guy with my file who has been ducking
me for months Methinks I will name YOU in the lawsuit
To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>, David Amos
< david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
< stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: "justin.trudeau.a1" <justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>
< leader@greenparty.ca>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>
On 8/1/13, Hansen, David <David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Mr. Amos,
I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic region.
We are only responsible for litigating existing civil litigation files in
which the Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff. If
you are a plaintiff or defendant in an existing civil litigation matter in
the Atlantic region in which Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant
or plaintiff please provide the court file number, the names of the parties
in the action and your question. I am not the appropriate contact for other
matters.
Thanks
David A. Hansen
From: Lamothe, Ronald Ronald.Lamothe@elections.ca
Subject: Call
To: "David Amos"
Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014, 6:30 AM
Mr. Amos … could you give me a call regarding your
recent email to Elections Canada.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Please take note that I am in the office today until 2 pm –
and away from the office, returning on Tuesday June 3rd 2014.
RON
Ronald Lamothe Enquêteur / Investigator
Élections Canada / Elections Canada
819-939-2073
ronald.lamothe@elections.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: denise.savoie.c1@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 5:53 PM
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Subject: RE: FWD I just called a lot of news people from 902 800 0369
Hi Dominique,
This is definitely not casework but you might want ot show it to Alex
. . . but he does not appear to be our constituent, may not even live
in Canada anymore. Seems to have a complaint with Elections Canada
from when he ran for election in Fundy in 2004. Is angry with Peter
McKay for something.
Slim chance it is useful but maybe Alex could look.
FYI - he called from NS today and left a long message on our machine.
I have not listened to it . . . . seems to be sending this to Denise
because she is Deputy Speaker.
Thanks
Donna Forbes
Constituency Assistant to Denise Savoie, MP
Phone: 250-363-3600
Fax: 250 - 363-8422
______________________________
From: David Amos [david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
Sent: March 26, 2012 3:13 PM
To: Savoie, Denise - M.P.
Cc: Savoie, Denise - Riding 1
Subject: Fwd: FWD I just called a lot of news people from 902 800 0369
-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:52 AM
To: william.corbett@elections.ca ; Bob.Paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
ndesrosiers@ccla.org ; Marc.Mayrand ; jkingsle@uottawa.ca ;
diane.davidson@uottawa.ca ; dbertschi@boslaw.ca ;
david@davidbertschi.ca ; email@stephentaylor.ca ; warren@daisygroup.ca
; nspector4@shaw.ca ; pm ; bob.rae ; Nycole.Turmel ;
leader@greenparty.ca ; scottribe@execulink.com ; lawrence ;
vote@bahmanyazdanfar.com ; vote@votersecho.com ;
info@grantgordon.liberal.ca ; craigscott@ndp.ca ;
christopher@
mapleparty@yahoo.ca
Cc: oldmaison@yahoo.com ; danfour ; thepurplevioletpress ;
terry.seguin ; evelyngreene ; sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca ;
mclaughlin.heather ; publicite@ledevoir.com
Subject: A lttle Deja Vu for the Commissioners of the RCMP and Elections Canada
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:20:10 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Re voter fraud at least Vic Toews and Jean-Pierre
Kingsley know why I am laughing at you crooks today EH Harper?
To: jkingsle@uottawa.ca, diane.davidson@uottawa.ca,
william.corbett@elections.ca, Bob.Paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
ndesrosiers@ccla.org, general@oic-ci.gc.ca,
ippd-dpiprp@tbs-sct.gc.ca, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca,
terry.seguin@cbc.ca, mclaughlin.heather@
Cc: dbertschi@boslaw.ca, david@davidbertschi.ca,
email@stephentaylor.ca, warren@daisygroup.ca
Jean-Pierre Kingsley
Telephone : 613-562-5800 ext. 2654
Fax : 613-562-5241
E-Mail Address : jkingsle@uOttawa.ca
http://ccla.org/2012/02/27/
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:44:42 -0400
Subject: Re voter fraud at least Vic Toews and Jean-Pierre Kingsley
know why I am laughing at you crooks today EH Harper?
To: pm@pm.gc.ca, vote@bahmanyazdanfar.com, vote@votersecho.com,
info@grantgordon.liberal.ca, craigscott@ndp.ca,
bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, lawrence@actionparty.ca,
christopher@
mapleparty@yahoo.ca, Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca
Cc: jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, nmoore@bellmedia.ca,
sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca, thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com
brother.chao@gmail.com, evelyngreene@live.ca,
maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com
Just Dave
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From: Elizabeth May leader@greenparty.ca
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:44:44 -0800
Subject: Thank you for your message / Merci pour votre courriel Re: Re
voter fraud at least Vic Toews and Jean-Pierre Kingsley know why I am
laughing at you crooks today EH Harper?
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Thank you for your email. We will work to ensure that a response is
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:04:33 -0300
Subject: Check the attachment Francis
To: Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca
Cc: maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
From: Grady, Louise (ENB)
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 11:55 AM
To: mailto:David.Raymond.Amos@
Subject: Final Follow up: Your registration as an independent candidate
Mr. Amos:
Following the Chief Electoral Officer's request by telephone on May
28, 2014 and his previous e-mailed requests for additional information
with respect to your registration as an independent candidate (please
see below), and having not received that information despite having
provided you with several opportunities to furnish the requested
information, he has now directed that said registration be cancelled.
Should you wish to re-apply for registration as an independent
candidate, you may do so after 60 days following the cancellation of
your present registration as provided for under subsection 146.1(1) of
the Elections Act.
Louise Grady
Elections Coordinator / Coordinatrice des élections
Elections New Brunswick / Élections Nouveau-Brunswick
Office/bureau : (506) 453-2218 / 1-800-308-2922
Fax/télécopieur: (506) 457-4926
http://www.electionsnb.ca
http://www.ourcommons.ca/
Special Committee on Electoral Reform (ERRE)
42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting No. 39
Friday, October 7, 2016, 1:32 p.m. to 8:28 p.m.
Fredericton, Delta Fredericton, Grand Ballroom BC
Presiding
Francis Scarpaleggia, Chair (Liberal)
Members of the Committee present
Liberal
John Aldag
Matt DeCourcey
Sherry Romanado
Ruby Sahota
Francis Scarpaleggia
NDP
Nathan Cullen
Green Party
Elizabeth May
Acting Members present
• Alistair MacGregor for Alexandre Boulerice (NDP)
• John Nater for Scott Reid (Conservative)
• Alain Rayes for Gérard Deltell (Conservative)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 10:23:59 -0400
Subject: Attn Stephane Perrault
To: Stephane.Perrault@elections.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca
http://davidraymondamos3.
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Mayrand, Marc" Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 13:47:00 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Mindless Minister Diane.Lebouthillier and
the CBC crooks should remember why I was not surprised to see
Commissioner Andrew Treusch and his buddy Kevin Dancey sneaking out
the back door last year EH?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Bonjour,
J'ai quitt? mes fonctions ? ?lections Canada depuis le 28 d?cembre.
SVP communiquer avec M. St?phane Perrault
Stephane.Perrault@elections.ca mailto:Stephane.Perrault@
, Directeur g?n?ral des ?lections par int?rim ou Sylvie Rochon
l'adjointe ex?cutive par int?rim au 819-939-2017 ou par courriel
Sylvie.Rochon@elections.ca mailto:Sylvie.Rochon@
I left my function at Elections Canada since December 28. You can
reach Mr. Stephane Perrault Stephane.Perrault@elections.ca
mailto:Stephane.Perrault@
or Sylvie Rochon the Acting Executive Assistant at 819-939-2017 or by
email Sylvie.Rochon@elections.ca mailto:Sylvie.Rochon@
Marc Mayrand
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 16:42:24 -0400
Subject: RE The Commission on Electoral Reform for NB Yo Hubby Lacroix
and Premeir Gallant Why did CBC and GNB fail to tell the Public when
and where Public meetings are?
To: ht.lacroix@cbc.ca, Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca,
Matt.DeCourcey.c1@parl.gc.ca, postur@for.is,
brian.gallant@gnb.ca, Consultations.ECO-BCE@gnb.ca,
victor.boudreau@gnb.ca, passaris@unb.ca,
jason.alcorn@fcnb.ca, premier@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, duff@goodorg.ca,
Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca,
pm@pm.gc.ca, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
steve.murphy@ctv.ca, nmoore@bellmedia.ca, news@kingscorecord.com,
peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Sarah.Betts@cbc.ca,
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com,
markandcaroline@gmail.com, COCMoncton@gmail.com,
peter.dauphinee@gmail.com, francoise.roy@gnb.ca,
Carolyn.Kavanaugh@gnb.ca, john.ames@gnb.ca, debbie.hunter@gnb.ca,
Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca,
martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca
The Commission on Electoral Reform
c/o The Clerk of the Executive Council and Secretary to Cabinet
Executive Council Office
Chancery Place
PO Box 6000
Fredericton NB E3B 5H1
Telephone: 506-444-4417
Fax: 506-453-2266
Email Consultations.ECO-BCE@gnb.ca
Hey
With regards to GNB latest call for briefs please view the document
hereto attached entitled "Democracy Watching" It is a true copy of
the cover letter I gave the former Commission on Legislative Democracy
long before it issued a report in 2005 but failed to answer me.
Perhaps your new commission will do so this time.
Perhaps your assistants can find all the rest of my documents that
came with the aforesaid cover letter if not go to Federal Court and
pull Docket No T-1557-15 You will find the documents there as well.
Clearly I cannot attend these meeting because you dudes illegally
barred me many Moons ago Hence my lawsuit N'esy Pas Premier Gallant?
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/
Upcoming Meetings
Friday, January 6
Council Chamber, Legislative Assembly
9:30 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Monday, January 9
Council Chamber, Legislative Assembly
9:30 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Friday, January 13
Council Chamber, Legislative Assembly
9:30 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Monday, January 16
Council Chamber, Legislative Assembly
9:30 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Meeting dates and times are subject to change.
Whereas Prof Passaris mentioned the ERRE Committee of House of Commons
that was in Fredericton on October 7th, 2015, he should enjoy
listening to the sound file hereto attached while reading the portion
of the parliamentary hansard found below that the folks on Prince
Edward Island were made well aware of
(I edited this email for you people ask David Coon for all of it if you wish)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:38:51 -0400
Subject: RE Electoral Reform on PEI Yo David Coon I must say that the
assistants to Jamie Fox and your buddy the not so happy dentist down
in the basement picked a bad day to hang up the phone on Mean Old Me
To: premier@gov.pe.ca, psbevanbaker@assembly.pe.ca, jdfox@assembly.pe.ca,
samyers@assembly.pe.ca, crlavie@assembly.pe.ca,
Natalia.Goodwin@cbc.ca, Kerry.Campbell@cbc.ca,
psmith@charlottetown.ca, fdwatts@assembly.pe.ca,
plleveque@assembly.pe.ca, ajmcdonald@assembly.pe.ca,
David.Coon@gnb.ca, Davidc.Coon@gmail.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, steve.murphy@ctv.ca,
jamcquaid@assembly.pe.ca, gatownsend@assembly.pe.ca, gopublic@cbc.ca,
cbcinvestigates@cbc.ca
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
Opposition motion for PR on P.E.I. in 2019 defeated
Motion for referendum on electoral reform remains on the floor
By Natalia Goodwin, Kerry Campbell, CBC News Posted: Nov 23, 2016 6:39 AM AT
The entire Liberal Caucus plus three PCs voted against the motion to
bring in mixed member proportional representation for 2019.
"P.E.I. Green Party Leader Peter Bevan-Baker is expressing extreme
disappointment at the defeat of a motion to bring electoral reform to
the province, saying governments will do "whatever the hell they
want."
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 18:08:54 -0400
Subject: YO Lionel "The Big Talking Yankee Lawyer" DO TELL Do I sound
Incoherent? How about the Judges? What say you now CNN or CBC or CTV?
How about YOU James Comey?
To: lionel@lionelmedia.com, James.Comey@ic.fbi.gov,
bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.
Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca,
jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca,
newsroom@globeandmail.ca, news@hilltimes.com, news-tips@nytimes.com,
newsonline@bbc.co.uk, ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk, gopublic@cbc.ca,
newtipsatlanta@foxtv.com, newstips@cnn.com, newstips@whdh.com,
info@lebronfirm.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, birgittaj@althingi.is,
markandcaroline@gmail.com, andre@jafaust.com, steve.murphy@ctv.ca,
nmoore@bellmedia.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, postur@for.is, premier@gnb.ca,
pm@pm.gc.ca, Theweek@cpac.ca
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Póstur FOR postur@for.is
>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
>> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
>> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
>> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
>> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
>> to be..
>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
>>
>> Kveðja / Best regards
>> Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
>>
>>
>> This is the docket
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>
>> These are digital recordings of the last two hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>>
>> Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/
>>
>> This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again
>>
>> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
>> Campaign, Rogers TV
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>> 902 800 0369
>>
>>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lionel Media lionel@lionelmedia.com
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:18:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Perhaps Lional the lawyer will call me back now if only
to protect his own butt from litigation EH CNN?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for this most interesting note. Incoherent yet most interesting.
All the best,
LIONEL
LOTUS (Lionel of the United States)
Emmy® Award Winning Legal and Media Analyst
"Telling America things no one wants to hear since 1988.”
Logodaedalus & Expert
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< https://www.youtube.com/
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The Official Lionel Reel <https://www.youtube.com/
Lionel Bio <http://lionelmedia.com/about-
Lionel is “[a]n intellectual known for his irreverent political and
social humor.” (Newsweek)
“He wears the mantle of Lenny Bruce, with Lenny’s own tropisms: The
Oblique, The Irreverent, The Tangential, The Concupiscent, The
Polymorphous Perverse, The Arcane, The Numinous. And yet Lionel brings
to the table his own savory: A love of the mother tongue and a gonzo
vocabulary that puts his logo on all his works, whether talk-show
hosting, standup-comic spritzing, or hanging out – with himself a
minor art form.” (Jerry Wexler)
“This is not a succedaneum for satisfying the nympholepsy of
nullifidians. Rather it is hoped that the haecceity of this
enchiridion of arcane and recondite sesquipedalian items will appeal
to the oniomania of an eximious Gemeinschaft whose legerity and
sophrosyne, whose Sprachgefühl and orexis will find more than
fugacious fulfillment among its felicific pages.” (Laurence Urdang)
<http://twitter.com/
< http://lionelmedia.tumblr.
< https://plus.google.com/u/0/
<http://instagram.com/
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> On Nov 3, 2016, at 1:31 PM, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.lebronfirm.com/
>
> Telephone
>
> +1-646-979-9520
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "CNN.Viewer.Communications.
> CNN.Viewer.Communications.
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:11:41 +0000
> Subject: From CNN
> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
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> On 11/3/16, David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> How Corrupt Mainstream Media Rig Elections and Then Deny It
>> Lionel Nation
>> Published on Nov 2, 2016
>>
>> This is beyond obvious. But I'll explain it any way.
>>
>> ME TOO
>>
>> QSLS Politics
>> By Location Visit Detail
>> Visit 36,741
>> Domain Name wgbh.org ? (Organization)
>> IP Address 198.147.175.# (WGBH Educational Foundation)
>> ISP WGBH Educational Foundation
>> Location
>> Continent : North America
>> Country : United States (Facts)
>> State : Massachusetts
>> City : Brighton
>> Lat/Long : 42.3484, -71.1551 (Map)
>> Language English (U.S.) en-us
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>> Referring URL https://search.yahoo.com/
>> Visit Entry Page http://qslspolitics....
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>> Out Click
>> Time Zone UTC-4:00
>> Visitor's Time Nov 1 2016 12:46:43 pm
>> Visit Number 36,741
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 04:04:03 -0400
>> Subject: Fwd: You are welcome Hillary and when are you and your
>> buddies such as Obama now Prez and Comey now of the FBI gonna get
>> around to answering the documents from 12 years ago which hereto
>> attached?
>> To: James.Comey@ic.fbi.gov, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, premier@gnb.ca, andre@jafaust.com,
>> markandcaroline@gmail.com, sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca,
>> leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: Info Rocky 2016 info@rdlfg.com
>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 01:00:00 -0700
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: RE An October surprise for Yankees Now all the
>> latest GOP wannabe US Presidents can't deny that they know what
>> Bernie, Hillary and the Donald have known for quite some time about
>> mean old me versus the Red Coats EH Trudeau "The Younger" and Stevey
>> Boy Harper?
>> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> Thank you for your interest in the "We the People" political campaign
>> of Roque “Rocky” De La Fuente. We will return your inquiries as soon
>> possible. If you need immediate assistance please contact Rocky's
>> campaign headquarters at (858) 569-9000.
>>
>> For more information about Rocky and his platform, please visit
>> www.rocky2016.com.
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Public Affairs Team
>> Rocky 2016 LLC
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:46:15 -0400
>> Subject: You are welcome Hillary and when are you and your buddies
>> such as Obama now Prez and Comey now of the FBI gonna get around to
>> answering the documents from 12 years ago which hereto attached?
>> To: nh@donaldtrump.com, info@nhgop.org, chris@chrissununu.com,
>> info@livefreeordiealliance.com
>> Info@603alliance.org, electchrisbooth@yahoo.com, 2016@brianchabot.org,
>> ardventures@gmail.com, info@kellyfornh.com, info@maggiehassan.com,
>> washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov,
>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,i
>> info@hillaryclinton.com, HQ@jillstein.org, Info@garyjohnson2016.com,
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Official Clinton Campaign info@hillaryclinton.com
>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 18:36:01 +0000 (GMT)
>> Subject: Thank you for your message
>> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Info Rocky 2016 info@rdlfg.com
>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:36:00 -0700
>> Subject: Re: Sometimes less is more So I talked about Maggie Hassan
>> and cohorts to Parliamentarians then called the GOP HQ in New
>> Hampshire explained some things and told them to look forward to this
>> email and Halloween as well
>> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> Thank you for your interest in the "We the People" political campaign
>> of Roque “Rocky” De La Fuente. We will return your inquiries as soon
>> possible. If you need immediate assistance please contact Rocky's
>> campaign headquarters at (858) 569-9000.
>>
>> For more information about Rocky and his platform, please visit
>> www.rocky2016.com.
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Public Affairs Team
>> Rocky 2016 LLC
>>
>>
>> On 10/26/16, David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com wrote:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:31:43 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn Alain Rayes remember me?
>>> To: Alain.Rayes@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>>> Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>>>
>>> Friday, 21 October 2016
>>> Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" , the CBC, the RCMP and the
>>> CROWN's many lawyers should understand why I appreciate Parliament
>>> labelling citizen's words as EVIDENCE N'esy Pas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.parl.gc.ca/
>>>
>>>
>>> Special Committee on Electoral Reform
>>> NUMBER 039
>>> l
>>> 1st SESSION
>>> l
>>> 42nd PARLIAMENT
>>> EVIDENCE
>>> Friday, October 7, 2016
>>> [Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]
>>> (1335)
>>> [English]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> Mr. David Amos, the floor is yours.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos (As an Individual):
>>> Mr. Chair, I ran for public office five times against your party.
>>> That said, I ran against Mr. DeCourcey's boss right here in
>>> Fredericton in the election for the 39th Parliament.
>>> I was not aware of this committee meeting in Fredericton today
>>> until I heard Mr. DeCourcey speaking on CBC this morning. I don't
>>> pretend to know something I don't, but I'm a quick study. I thought I
>>> had paid my dues to sit on the panel. I notified the clerks in a
>>> timely fashion, but I received no response. At least I get another
>>> minute and a half.
>>> The previous speaker answered the $64,000 question: 338. I can
>>> name every premier in the country. Governor Maggie Hassan is my
>>> governor in New Hampshire. The people there who sit in the house get
>>> paid $100 a year plus per diem expenses. I think that's the way to run
>>> a government. There are lots of seats in the house for a very small
>>> state.
>>> My understanding of this hearing is that you have to report to Mr.
>>> Trudeau by December 1, because he said during the election that if he
>>> were elected Prime Minister, the 42nd Parliament, which I also ran in,
>>> would be the last first-past-the-post election. You don't have much
>>> time, so my suggestion to the clerks today, which I published and sent
>>> to the Prime Minister of Iceland and his Attorney General, was to do
>>> what Iceland does. Just cut and paste their rules. They have no first
>>> past the post. They have a pending election.
>>> A former friend of mine, Birgitta Jónsdóttir, founded a party
>>> there, for which there is no leader. It is the Pirate Party. It's high
>>> in the polls right now with no leader. That's interesting. I tweeted
>>> this. You folks said that you follow tweets, so you should have seen
>>> what I tweeted before I came here this evening.
>>> That said, as a Canadian, I propose something else. Number one,
>>> my understanding of the Constitution and what I read about law....
>>> There was a constitutional expert named Edgar Schmidt who sued the
>>> government. He was the man who was supposed to vet bills for Peter
>>> MacKay to make sure they were constitutionally correct. He did not
>>> argue the charter. He argued Mr. Diefenbaker's Bill of Rights.
>>> In 2002 I read a document filed by a former deputy minister of
>>> finance, Kevin Lynch, who later became Mr. Harper's clerk of the Privy
>>> Council. Now he's on an independent board of the Chinese oil company
>>> that bought Nexen. As deputy minister of finance, he reported to the
>>> American Securities and Exchange Commission on behalf of the
>>> corporation known as Canada. It is a very interesting document that I
>>> saved and forwarded to you folks. It says that he was in a quandary
>>> about whether the charter was in effect.
>>> (2005)
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Could it be in relation to a particular voting system?
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> According to Mr. Lynch, because of the failure of the Meech Lake
>>> and Charlottetown accords, he was in a quandary as to whether the
>>> charter was in effect. I know that the Supreme Court argues it on a
>>> daily basis. That charter, created by Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Chrétien,
>>> his attorney general at the time, gave me the right to run for public
>>> office and vote as a Canadian citizen. However, in the 1990s, Mr.
>>> Chrétien came out with a law, and because I am a permanent American
>>> resident, I can't vote. Yet the charter says I can.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> That's a—
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> That said, that's been argued in court. In 2000, Mr. Chrétien came
>>> out with a law that said I couldn't vote. Right? He also took away my
>>> social insurance number.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> I don't know about the case—
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> No, he did.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> But I don't know about the case.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> I did prove, after I argued with Elections Canada's lawyers in
>>> 2004.... You might have taken away my right to vote, but you can't
>>> stop me from running for public office, and I proved it five times.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Given that you're an experienced candidate—
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Very experienced.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> —does that experience provide you with a particular insight on the
>>> voting systems we're looking at?
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> In Mr. Trudeau's words, he has to come up with a plan and no more
>>> first past the post. My suggestion to you, in my contact today, is to
>>> cut and paste Iceland's rules.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> What kind of system does Iceland have?
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> It's just what you need, just what Mr. Trudeau is ordering now.
>>> It's proportional elections.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Is it MMP, or is it just...?
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> I tweeted you the beginner's book for Iceland.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Okay, we'll look at Iceland.
>>> We're just checking on the kind of system they have, but I
>>> appreciate the input, especially from a candidate, from somebody who
>>> has run many times.
>>> But we do have—
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> I have two other points, because I don't think you can pull this
>>> off. I don't think it will happen.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Well, I'm hoping we do.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Here is my suggestion. You guys are going north.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Look how parliamentarians are elected in the Northwest
>>> Territories. There is no party, and I like that.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> That's true. We were just up in Yellowknife, in fact, and we
>>> learned all about that. That's why it's good for us to be travelling
>>> the country.
>>> But, sir, I—
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> I have one more suggestion.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> One more.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Mr. Harper changed the Canada Elections Act and I still couldn't
>>> vote.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Yes, I was in the House when that happened.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Anyway, that said, when you alter the Canada Elections Act, make
>>> it....
>>> The biggest problem we have is, look at the vast majority of
>>> people who, like me, have never voted in their life. Apathy rules the
>>> day.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Except that you've put us on to an idea about Iceland—
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Let me finish.
>>> I suggest that you make voting mandatory, such as Australia does.
>>> Make it that if you don't vote, it costs you money, just like if you
>>> don't report to Statistics Canada.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Well, we're talking about that. That is part of our mandate, to
>>> look at mandatory voting and online voting.
>>> You already had your last suggestion.
>>> (2010)
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Put in the line, “none of the above”, and if “none of the above”
>>> wins—
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> That's right, we've heard that, too.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> Well, I haven't.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> We've heard that in our testimony.
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos:
>>> You and I will be talking again, trust me on that one, by way of
>>> writing.
>>> You answered my emails, Ma'am.
>>>
>>> The Chair:
>>> Thank you very much, sir.
>>> Now we'll hear from Julie Maitland.
>>>
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>>> Critics accuse Justin Trudeau of electoral reform flip-flop for
>>> 'selfish' political gain
>>> Prime minister insists he is 'deeply committed' to consultation
>>> process on changes to voting system
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The commission has been given the following mandates:
Assess commitments made by the provincial government in 2014 to
contribute to making a more effective Legislature by:
– eliminating barriers to entering politics for underrepresented groups; and
– investigating means to improve participation in democracy, such
as preferential ballots and online voting.
Assess other electoral reform matters that have been raised
recently, namely:
– the voting age;
– political contribution rules; and
– political spending rules.
The commission is required to consult with New Brunswickers by:
engaging experts, interest groups and the public about the issues
and options presented in the discussion paper on Electoral Reform; and
giving New Brunswickers the opportunity to make written submissions.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
Electoral reform commission invites public to join upcoming meetings
Commission formed in November, tasked with assessing things like
online voting and age of voting
By Sarah Betts, CBC News Posted: Dec 30, 2016 8:30 AM AT
The province's electoral reform commission is looking for public
input, especially from under-represented groups, in an effort to
strengthen democracy in New Brunswick.
Constantine Passaris, one of five members of the commission, said they
are hoping to get a lot of feedback from New Brunswickers.
"We're reaching out to them to engage them in the process because this
is a very important process. Electoral reform is one of the
foundations of what keeps democracy breathing and living through the
centuries," he said.
Meetings, which are open to the public, are set for Jan. 4 and will
continue each Monday and Wednesday of the month until Jan. 27.
Constantine Passaris
Constantine Passaris, an economics professor at the University of New
Brunswick, said the commission hopes to help underrepresented groups
and incorporate new technology into the electoral reform. (UNB)
Passaris said the commission is expected to report its recommendations
to the provincial government on March 1.
He said the commission's purpose is to make sure people are aware of
what it is doing in terms of recommending "new frontiers for electoral
reform" to the government, as well as how democracy can be
strengthened and how more people can be engaged in the democratic
process.
"We're particularly interested in under-represented groups in society,
getting them engaged in the political process, looking at the
transformation information technology has made available to us," he
said.
What do the people want?
The commission is preparing to hear from various stakeholder groups
and experts in January.
Passaris said stakeholders include women's groups, multicultural
organizations, agencies regarding disability issues, younger
generations, and Indigenous groups.
Experts are considered to be those who have expertise in areas such as
cyber security, political participation and political party finances.
The commission invited the public to share thoughts and concerns on
its website up until Nov. 30, but Passaris said that deadline is one
that is "movable."
"As long as the commission will be holding its public sessions, we
would like the public to continue to send in their comments," he said.
Passaris said the commission is reaching out "to make sure that all
New Brunswickers are aware of this commission … and to provide an open
invitation for all New Brunwickers to participate in the process
because we strongly believe that this process should be inclusive and
should be transparent."
PEI plebiscite form
Envelopes like these were sent to more than 100,000 Islanders
registered to vote in the provincial plebiscite on electoral reform.
(Kerry Campbell/CBC)
He said they have not yet looked at the feedback from the initial open
period, but the commission has been discussing amongst itself and
identifying who they want to hear from.
A referendum dealing with similar issues was dealt with via plebiscite
in Prince Edward Island between October and November.
Votes indicated mixed member proportional representation was the
preferred choice with over 52 per cent support on the final ballot.
However, as voter turnout was at a low 36 per cent, Premier Wade
MacLauchlan said he was doubtful the results could "be said to
constitute a clear expression of the will of Prince Edward Islanders."
'A mini-citizens assembly'
New Brunswick legislature
A flag waves in the fall breeze in front of the legislative assembly
in Fredericton. (Daniel McHardie/CBC)
Passaris said the model of the New Brunswick commission on electoral
reform is very different from the federal committee that released its
report on Dec.1.
Rather than being a committee of House of Commons members, Passaris
said New Brunswick's model is different.
"It is basically made up of citizens who expressed an interest in
participating in this process and were selected by the government to
form a sort of mini-citizens assembly of five people," he said.
Passaris said he believes this is a better approach because discussion
will not be effected by the "element of advancing their political
parties and the political ambitions."
As the democratic process evolves over time, Passaris said the
democratic institutions, mechanisms and machinery have to change with
it.
"We need to keep pushing the frontiers. We need to build a bigger tent
so more people can come into [it] and enjoy the benefits of living in
a province and a country that has an outstanding democratic record."
This isn't the first time New Brunswick has studied ways to improve
its democratic institutions.
In 2005, the Commission on Legislative Democracy issued a report,
which made many recommendations, including moving to a mixed member,
proportional representation voting system.
Bernard Lord's Tories were defeated before the majority of those
recommendations could be implemented.
Another report was done in 2011 looking at ways to improve politics
and legislative democracy.
Executive Council Office
Electoral reform commissioners announced
09 November 2016
FREDERICTON (GNB) – The provincial government has announced the names
of the five members of the commission on electoral reform who will be
tasked with submitting recommendations for improving the electoral
system in New Brunswick.
The individuals are Carolyn MacKay, Bev Harrison, Gaétane Johnson,
Jason Alcorn and Constantine Passaris.
“These individuals were chosen for their high levels of experience and
exceptional qualifications,” said Health Minister Victor Boudreau, who
is also deputy house leader. “I congratulate them on being selected
and look forward to seeing their recommendations for improving our
democracy.”
The members were chosen following a process that allowed any member of
the public to express their interest in serving. They will be given
the following mandate:
Assess commitments made by the provincial government in 2014 to
contribute to making a more effective legislature by eliminating
barriers to entering politics for underrepresented groups; and
investigating means to improve participation in democracy, such as
preferential ballots and online voting.
Assess other electoral reform matters that have been raised
recently including changing the voting age, political contribution
rules and political spending rules.
“Yesterday, the State of Maine voted in favour of the preferential
ballot and the day before Prince Edward Island voted for electoral
reform using the preferential ballot,” said Boudreau. “This is an
evolutionary system worthy of consideration.”
Boudreau also noted that the non-binding Prince Edward Island
plebiscite offered the option of online voting and allowed votes from
16 and 17-year-olds, which are also options being considered by the
commission.
The public has been encouraged to participate in the process by
reading the discussion paper Strengthening New Brunswick’s Democracy
and submitting comments. The information received will be compiled and
analyzed by the commission. Recommendations will be submitted to the
clerk of the Executive Council by March 1, 2017.
Following are the biographies of the commission members:
Carolyn MacKay
A career civil servant with the provincial government, MacKay held a
number of senior positions over the course of her 37-year career. In
2007, she was named deputy minister, a post she held until she retired
in February 2014. She has a bachelor’s degree in nursing and a
master’s degree in business administration from the University of New
Brunswick.
Bev Harrison
Harrison was first elected as a member of the legislative assembly in
1978. He was re-elected four times, including terms in 2006 and 2010
as the MLA for the riding of Hampton-Kings. A former high school
teacher and principal, he held different positions including minister
of supply and services, government house leader and speaker of the
legislative assembly. He also served on various standing committees.
Gaétane Johnson
Johnson was elected as a councillor for the Village of Rogersville in
May 2015. The 18-year-old, who is studying psychology at Université de
Moncton, has received various honours over the course of her studies,
including the Governor General’s Academic Medal and the Roméo-LeBlanc
Excellence Scholarship.
Jason Alcorn
Alcorn joined the Financial and Consumer Services Commission in May
2006, where he works as senior legal counsel within the securities
division. He holds a bachelor of laws from Université de Moncton, a
master’s degree in International Affairs from Institut d’études
politiques de Paris and a bachelor of arts in political science from
University of New Brunswick, Saint John campus. He is a former student
of the prestigious École nationale d’administration in France.
Constantine Passaris
An economics professor at the University of New Brunswick, Passaris
has extensive experience in the private and public sectors. Along with
experience in teaching, research and administration at the university
level, Passaris has worked in banking in the private sector and served
as a policy consultant for the federal government and several
provincial governments. Along with his role at the university,
Passaris is an Onassis Foundation Fellow, a research affiliate of the
Prentice Institute for Global Population and Economy at the University
of Lethbridge, an affiliate professor of the Canadian Centre for
German and European Studies at York University and a member of the
Academic Scientific Board of the International Institute of Advanced
Economic and Social Studies.
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