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EUB Matter 541 Application by NB Power for approval of the Schedule of Rates for the fiscal year commencing April 1 st 2023

 

Matter 541 - NB Power 2023-2024 General Rate Application


Mitchell, Kathleen <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 9:33 AM
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We will begin in a few minutes.  We are waiting for a few participants to join.

 

Kathleen Mitchell

Chief Clerk / Greffière en chef

(506) 658-2504 (General/Général)

(506) 643-7324 (Direct/Directe)

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Matter No. 541

NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY AND UTILITIES BOARD

INTERVENER REQUEST
(Rule 3.2)

In Relation to an Application by: The New Brunswick Power Corporation
In Accordance with: 2023-2024 General Rate Application
TO: The New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
David Raymond Amos (“Proposed Intervener”) wishes to actively participate in the above-noted
proceeding, and makes this Intervener Request in accordance with Rule 3.2 of the Board’s Rules
of Procedure.
The Proposed Intervener states that he has a substantial interest in the above-noted proceeding
and intends to participate actively and responsibly in the proceeding.
1. David Raymond Amos as a Canadian Citizen residing in New Brunswick paying taxes on his
private property is a stakeholder in the New Brunswick Power Corporation and is a client of
the Applicant as well.
2. The Proposed Intervener was involved with the 357 Matter and the Rate Design issues since
it began and wishes to continue in the 529 Matter. He is much concerned about the proposed
large increase in rates before the issues raised within the 357 matter have been resolved.
The authorized representative of the Proposed Intervener is:
David Raymond Amos
P.O. Box 809
Kars, NB
E5T 2X2
506 434 8433
David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com

The Proposed Intervener intends to participate in the English language.
DATED the 4th day of November, 2022

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS

NOTE: A copy of this Intervener Request must also be served on the Applicant.

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NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD
COMMISSION DE L’ENERGIE ET DES SERVICES PUBLICS N.-B.

Matter 541
Relating to an application by New Brunswick Power
Corporation pursuant to subsection 103(1) of the
Electricity Act for approval of the Schedule of Rates
for the fiscal year commencing April 1 st 2023.

Relativement à une demande présentée par la Société
d’énergie du Nouveau-Brunswick en vertu du paragraphe
103(1) de la Loi sur l’électricité pour l’approbation
des barèmes des tarifs pour l’exercice financier
commençant le 1er avril 2023.

Held via Videoconferencing, on November 9, 2022.

Henneberry Reporting Service

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NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD
COMMISSION DE L’ENERGIE ET DES SERVICES PUBLICS N.-B.

Matter 541
Relating to an application by New Brunswick Power
Corporation pursuant to subsection 103(1) of the
Electricity Act for approval of the Schedule of Rates
for the fiscal year commencing April 1 st 2023.

Relativement à une demande présentée par la Société
d’énergie du Nouveau-Brunswick en vertu du paragraphe
103(1) de la Loi sur l’électricité pour l’approbation
des barèmes des tarifs pour l’exercice financier
commençant le 1er avril 2023.

Held via Videoconferencing, on November 9, 2022.

Members of the Board:
Mr. Francois Beaulieu - Chairperson
Ms. Heather Black - Member
Ms. Stephanie Wilson - Member
Counsel to Board Staff - Ms. Abigail Herrington
............................................................

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CHAIRPERSON: So welcome, everyone or good morning. This
is a pre-hearing conference in Matter 541 relating to an
application by New Brunswick Power Corporation pursuant
to subsection 103(1) of the Electricity Act for approval
of the Schedule of Rates for the fiscal year commencing
April 1 st 2023.
Il s’agit de la vidéoconférence préparatoire à
l’audience dans l’instance 541, relativement à une
demande présentée par la Société d’énergie du Nouveau-
Brunswick en vertu du paragraphe 103(1) de la Loi sur
l’électricité pour l’approbation des barèmes des tarifs
pour l’exercice financier commençant le 1er avril 2023.
So the panel this morning consists of myself Francois
Beaulieu. I am joined my members Heather Black and
Stephanie Wilson.
For those of you who are not accustomed to these types
of conferences, there is just a few things that I
essentially will -- I would like to remind you.
First of all, we have been experiencing for the past two
and a half years with these types of virtual conference
hearings that if you are not connected to a hardwired
connection and you are connected to Wi-Fi sometimes that
doesn’t work that well, so it’s preferable that you are

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connected directly to hardwire. The use of headphones
would be much appreciated. If you have some, it makes
the job of Ms. Farris, who is the court stenographer,
much easier when it comes to transcribing the
transcript. Mute your microphones when you are not
speaking to eliminate background noises. Don’t forget
to plug your electric devices, activate your cameras and
unmute your devices when you are required to speak. And
in the event that there is a discussion that needs to be
done between the parties without the Board Panel
Members, the Chief Clerk will be putting myself, Ms.
Black and Ms. Wilson into a waiting room for the parties
to have that discussion and we also will reassure
ourselves that no other parties that are not an
intervener or the applicant in the main room be put also
in the waiting room.
As this pre-hearing is open to the general public and to
the media, I would ask these individuals to mute and
disable their cameras. Simultaneous translation is
available at the bottom of your screen. If you look,
there is an icon that states interpretation. So you are
able to activate either the French or English
translation. And any recording or broadcasting of this

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pre-hearing conference is strictly prohibited.
So, Mr. Furey, I was looking at the documents that were
filed on behalf of your client yesterday and did notice
that there was an Affidavit of Publication dated October
18 th 2022 which confirms that items 4 and 5 of the Board
order dated October 17 have been complied with. So
thank you for filing that Affidavit of Publication.
There are a number of parties that have filed intervener
requests in this proceeding. So I think the first thing
that we are going to do this morning before talking
about dates and schedules is to confirm those parties --
or to confirm or to -- should I say to grant intervener
status to the parties that have applied for intervener
status.
So the first one is the Canadian Federation of
Independent Business, and I am wondering if Mr. Gauthier
or Mr. Gionet is with us this morning or somebody else
from that association?
MR. GIONET: Yes. Mr. Gionet here for the -- here
representing the CFIB.
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you, Mr. Gionet. So the Board’s rules
of procedure -- if there are any issues regarding any
parties requesting intervener status, a party is

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requested -- or anyone is requested to file an
objection. We haven’t received any objections regarding
-- with respect to the Canadian Federation of
Independent Business. However, at this point in time, I
will ask if anyone has any objections that the Canadian
Federation of Independent Business intervenes in this
proceeding?
MR. FUREY: No, objection, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRPERSON: So hearing no objections from any other
parties in this proceeding, the Canadian Federation of
Independent Business will be granted intervener status.
I am wondering if there is anybody from the Coalition
for Responsible Energy Development in New Brunswick?
Are there any objections that the Board grants
intervener status to this Coalition from any of the
parties? So hearing no objections, the Board will grant
the Coalition for Responsible Energy Development in New
Brunswick intervener status in this proceeding.
Is anyone from the Conservation Council of New
Brunswick?
DR. COMEAU: Present. Louise Comeau.
CHAIRPERSON: So, good morning, Dr. Comeau. Any of the
parties that are present today that has any objections

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that the Board grants intervener status to the
Conservation Council? So hearing no objections, the
Board will grant intervener status to the Conservation
Council of New Brunswick.
Mr. Amos, David Amos, I am wondering if -- I don’t know
if you have a video or if you are calling in, Mr. Amos?
MR. AMOS: Yes, I am on a cell phone.
CHAIRPERSON: All right. So Mr. Amos has filed an
intervener request in this proceeding. Does anybody
have any objections that he intervenes in this
proceeding?
MR. FUREY: Mr. Chair, NB Power is not objecting to Mr.
Amos being granted intervener status at this point. But
I do have a few comments to make with respect to his
intervention.
As the Board knows, NB Power did object to intervention
by Mr. Amos in Matters 375 and Matter 430. And in both
cases the Board did not grant Mr. Amos intervener
status.
I am not going to go into a great deal of detail for why
the Board did so, but would refer the Board to its
decision in Matter 430, dated February 25 th 2019. And
the argument that NB Power made at that time and was

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accepted by the Board is that Mr. Amos’ conduct in past
proceedings has been one of confrontational behaviour
where he makes allegations of lawlessness and unethical
behavior on the part of judges, on the part of counsel,
on the part of Members of this Board. So NB Power is
hoping that Mr. Amos will put that behind him and
intervene in this matter in a responsible manner. But
if he does not do so and he reverts to previous conduct,
NB Power will ask the Board to revisit this issue.
CHAIRPERSON: So my understanding, Mr. Furey, is that your
client is not objecting at this point in time, but
depending on the conduct, you may either file a motion
or inform the Board that his -- if the Board grants
intervener status, that it be revoked, is that my
understanding?
MR. FUREY: That’s correct, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRPERSON: Okay. Thank you. Does anyone else have any
comments to make regarding the intervener request that
has been filed by Mr. Amos?
So, Mr. Amos, the Board will grant you intervener status
in this matter. However, I just would like to remind
you that the rules of -- the Board’s Rules of Procedure
are quite clear that an individual that -- or an

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organization that participates in these types of
proceedings needs to participate responsibly. And also
I was just looking at the decision that we rendered in
Matter 430 on February 25 th 2019 and I am also looking at
paragraph 13. And I am going to remind you that
responsible intervention in these types of proceedings
obligates yourself and anyone who intervenes to raise
issues and to file evidence that is relevant to the
matter in question. And the Board must focus on its
legislative mandate and consider just those issues that
are within our jurisdiction.
So if you raise any issues that are outside the Board’s
jurisdiction, I will probably ask you to focus on those
issues that you raised in your intervener request, which
essentially is I think you have an issue regarding the
proposed rate increase. And if there are any other
issues that you think that is within the application
that has been filed by NB Power that you have a concern
with, I think you need to focus on that.
That being said, Mr. Amos, even though that we are
granting you intervener status doesn’t mean that we
cannot revoke it. And if there is somebody -- or if
there is a party that files an objection to it, well the

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Board will hear their arguments and also your point of
view and we will have to render a decision.
So I am just wondering if you understand what I am
saying and if there is anything else that you would like
to add, Mr. Amos, I am going to give you that
opportunity right now.
MR. AMOS: Can you hear me?
CHAIRPERSON: Yes, we can.
MR. AMOS: I do not understand what you say but I hope
everything you say has gone into writing or will be. I
have done nothing to offend you.
CHAIRPERSON: Yes. No, Mr. Amos, there is a court
stenographer that is transcribing everything right now
so, yes, it will be --
MR. AMOS: And I have done nothing to offend you.
CHAIRPERSON: So do you understand what I am saying, Mr.
Amos?
MR. AMOS: No, I don’t understand because I have done
nothing to offend you.
CHAIRPERSON: So we are going to proceed, Mr. Amos. And
so the Board will grant you intervener status, but again
the Board is the master of its own procedure and if
somebody files a motion requesting that we revoke your
status, we will be hearing those arguments if it ever happens.

 

Notice they ignored what went down in the 529 Matter??? 


---------- Original message ---------- 
From: John Furey <JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 15:56:19 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design and the
news about the EUB in CBC today
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

During the week of July 25-29, 2022 I will have limted access to
email, and may not respond immediately. If your matter requires
immediate attention, please contact me directly at 506-444-1328.

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Williams, Richard (OAG/CPG)" <Richard.Williams@gnb.ca>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 16:09:48 +0000
Subject: RE: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design / Instance no 559 -
Énergie NB - Établissement des tarifs
To: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>,
"JohnFurey@fureylegal.com" <JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>,
"jpetrie@nbpower.com" <jpetrie@nbpower.com>, "NBPRegulatory
(NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com)" <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>,
"louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca" <louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca>,
"David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com" <David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com>,
"Sollows, David (DNRED/MRNDE)" <David.Sollows@gnb.ca>,
"Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com" <Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com>,
"dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com"
<dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com>, Len Hoyt
<Len.Hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>, "jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com"
<jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com>, "rzarumba@ceadvisors.com"
<rzarumba@ceadvisors.com>, "gerald@kissnb.com" <gerald@kissnb.com>,
"hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com" <hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>,
"SWaycott@nbpower.com" <SWaycott@nbpower.com>, "bcrawford@nbpower.com"
<bcrawford@nbpower.com>, "George.Porter@nbpower.com"
<George.Porter@nbpower.com>, NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>, "Dickie,
Michael" <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, "Young, Dave"
<Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>,
"Ahmad.Faruqui@brattle.com"<Ahmad.Faruqui@brattle.com>,
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<rrichard@nb.aibn.com>,
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" <sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com>,
"margot.cragg@umnb.ca" <margot.cragg@umnb.ca>,
"jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com" <jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com>,
"dan.dionne@perth-andover.com"
<dan.dionne@perth-andover.com>, "pierreroy@edmundston.ca"
<pierreroy@edmundston.ca>, "ray.robinson@sjenergy.com"
<ray.robinson@sjenergy.com>,
"sstoll@airdberlis.com" <sstoll@airdberlis.com>,
"pzarnett@bdrenergy.com" <pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>,
"leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca" <leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca>
Cc: NBEUB/CESPNB <general@nbeub.ca>

Good afternoon,

The Public Intervener will be participating in this matter.


Richard A. Williams, Q.C.
Public Intervener for the Energy Sector / l'intervenant public dans le
secteur énergétique
Office of the Public Intervener / Bureau d'intervenant public

(506) 440-8915
richard.williams@gnb.ca


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-hearing-collusion-worries-1.6531558

Secret participants and 'collusion' worries cause halt in N.B. Power hearing

Utility calls for consultant representing unnamed clients to be expelled
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jul 26, 2022 6:00 AM AT
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Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 12:46 PM
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Cc: Rene.Legacy <Rene.Legacy@gnb.ca>, David.Coon <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, kris.austin <kris.austin@gnb.ca>, Robert. Jones <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, Susan.Holt <Susan.Holt@gnb.ca>, <carolmontreuil@canadianfuels.ca>, <helenbennett@canadianfuels.ca>, Brandy Gellner <brandy.gellner@libertyutilities.com>, <james.macduff@mcinnescooper.com>, <sherry.duncan@irvingoil.com>, <ithomson@advancedbiofuels.ca>, <rfoxall@advancedbiofuels.ca>, <jstewart@cemassociation.ca>, <andrew.mackay@bgfuels.com>, <jenwright@syntaxstrategic.ca>, <dknight@convenienceindustry.ca>, <mhammoud@convenienceindustry.ca>, <peterc@clarkoil.ca>, <patricklucas@harnoisenergies.com>, <mleroy@parkfuels.com>, <bleroy@parkfuels.com>, <Chris.Scholten@scholtens.ca>, <Jerry.Scholten@scholtens.ca>




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 What was the outcome of theNB Power lawsuit last year???
 
 

N.B. Power seeking across-the-board rate hike of 4.75 per cent in 2026

Increase would cost average home customer another $130 on power bills next year

 
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Oct 01, 2025 5:11 PM ADT 
 
 
Outside view of NB Power office building in FrederictonN.B. Power is asking the Energy and Utilities Board for permission to raise New Brunswick electricity rates by 4.75 per cent next year. (Michael Heenan/CBC)

N.B. Power is asking for regulatory approval for a 4.75 per cent rate increase to electricity bills next April, a substantial hike but one that would be lower than three years of even larger increases.

The new rate increase, if approved by the Energy and Utilities Board, will add another $130 to the average residential power bill in 2026-2027, based on figures the utility released Wednesday.

Even with that hike, CEO Lori Clark said the Crown utility's $5.7-billion debt will continue to increase in the coming years as it embarks on a series of costly renovations of its major generating stations.

Clark told reporters the corporation's executives talked about seeking a bigger increase but wanted to respect the commitment it made in 2023, when it unveiled a three-year plan with two annual hikes near 10 per cent followed by a lower increase in 2026.

"We're always balancing a multitude of different things in the utility and the impact of rates on customers and affordability is always something that's front of mind for us," she said.

"We also have to look at ensuring the utility is financially stable now and into the future."

WATCH | 'Last resort': N.B. Power seeks rate increase of nearly 5 per cent
 
N.B. Power wants to raise rates 4.75 per cent
October 1
Duration 2:48
 
The request comes after increases to rates of about 30 per cent over the last three years and as the utility tries to juggle improvements to its most important generating assets.

On top of the major increases in the last two years was an additional three per cent charge the utility applied to cover the cost of "variances" — cost overruns that are billed to customers separately to cover unexpected spending in previous years.

That additional three per cent is built into the 2026 application again, and the 4.75 per cent increase is on top of that, officials said Wednesday.

This rate increase was one that we thought was appropriate for New Brunswick given the review that was underway... We do know the status quo is not an option, and we do see rate increases in the future.

— N.B. Power CEO Lori Clark

In March, Premier Susan Holt signalled her displeasure with rate increases that were pinching New Brunswickers even after her government's decision to give customers rebates equal to the provincial sales tax on their bills.

"It needs to change," Holt said in the legislature March 26. "The rates can't keep going like they're going now, and the status quo cannot continue."

A women in a suit looks off to the side.CEO Lori Clark says N.B. Power has to tackle a series of costly renovations at its major generating stations. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

Clark did not directly answer a question about whether she felt political pressure to keep a lid on this year's rate increase.

She said the utility based its decision in part on the fact that the utility's future is in question due to a review ordered by Holt that is expected to result in recommendations early next year.

"This rate increase was one that we thought was appropriate for New Brunswick given the review that was underway," Clark said.

"We do know the status quo is not an option, and we do see rate increases in the future. So this review will help us determine whether or not the rate increases are appropriate and other options that there may be for helping New Brunswickers as we move forward."

The tentative plan is to increase rates by 6.5 per cent in April 2027 and by 6.5 per cent again in April 2028.

Average customer paying 30% more than in 2022

The utility had been facing a 2027 target to reduce its debt to 80 per cent of the total value of its assets, which compelled it to seek large increases. But in 2023 the Blaine Higgs government extended that deadline to 2029, and earlier this year the Liberals eliminated it altogether.

How electricity rates have become a symbol of New Brunswick’s affordability problems
April 1
Duration 2:23
 
N.B. Power rates for residential customers are lower than those in most neighbouring jurisdictions, but they have also risen 30 per cent in three years. The escalations are stinging weary consumers, which has the Holt government promising action of some kind, soon.

Clark attributed $1.5 billion of N.B. Power's current $5.7 billion debt to a decade of lower-than-required rate hikes between 2011 and 2022, some the result of government-imposed limits.

In a statement, Energy Minister René Legacy did not comment on the amount of the rate increase, calling the utility's EUB application "a normal process" and a way for customers, industry and others to have a say.

"Government will be following the proceedings as they unfold over the months ahead," he said.

The increases this year and last year, plus an earlier increase in 2023, led to customers paying about 30 per cent more now than they were in 2022.

The average residential customer is paying $645 per year more this year than three years ago, a reality that has fuelled public anger at a time when other basic necessities like food and housing have been hit by inflation.

    A Moncton woman collected 45 power bills to investigate higher rates. Here’s what she found.
March 28
Duration 3:28
 
Susan Martin couldn’t believe how many kilowatts her N.B. Power bill said she used compared to last year. After gathering dozens of bills to get to the bottom of it, she found other inconsistencies. Now, with the utility set to release its own audit into the matter in April, Martin wants the province to step in as soon as possible.

The 4.75 rate increase is across the board, meaning the utility wants the same hike applied to all rate categories, from residential to industrial customers.

Fee proposed for those who refuse smart meters

Earlier this year,  J.D. Irving Ltd. announced it was permanently closing down half of its production at Irving Paper in Saint John and eliminating 140 positions because of what it considered high power rates.

N.B. Power also announced Wednesday it was hiring Laurentis Energy Partners, a subsidiary of Ontario Power Generation, to support its running of the frequently troubled Point Lepreau nuclear generation station.

The three-year contract will cost $20 million a year.

The utility will also ask the EUB to approve a $4.65 opt-out fee for customers who refuse to have a smart meter installed at their homes to measure their electricity consumption.

A smart metre on a home. The power utility in New Brunswick has said it's looking at even higher rate increases in the years to come, tentatively going up by 6.5 per cent in April 2027 and by another 6.5 per cent in April 2028. (Katelin Belliveau/CBC)

Earlier this year, many New Brunswickers theorized that the meters were responsible for apparent spikes in their bills, which N.B. Power said were the result of rate increases, longer billing periods and colder weather than the previous year.

The utility had estimated that two per cent of customers would opt out of the smart meters, but in fact four per cent have opted out.

The EUB application also seeks a change to the rates charged to customers who install public electric-vehicle chargers, to lower their cost.

It asks as well for a change to its "wind balancing charge" to pass on more of the cost of providing back-up baseload power to wind generation.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

 
Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.



 
---------- Original message ---------
From: NB Power <noreply-nepasrepondre@communication.nbpower.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 3:59 PM
Subject: General Rate Application 2026/27
To: DAVID AMOS <DAVID.RAYMOND.AMOS333@gmail.com>


General Rate Application
 
web version
 

General Rate Application 2026/27

October 1, 2025

At NB Power, we are committed to providing New Brunswickers with safe, reliable and secure electricity. To do that, we have to take the necessary steps to provide the services you expect today as well as prepare for tomorrow. That requires investments to expand, strengthen and modernize our grid.

NB Power submitted a new General Rate Application to the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board (NBEUB) for the 2026/27 fiscal year requesting a rate increase of 4.75%. If approved, this will make a difference of approximately $10.90/month for the average residential customer using 1,350 kWh/month. Changes would go into effect April 1, 2026.

As a cost-of-service utility, we only charge what we need to cover the cost of delivering electricity to New Brunswickers. We go to great lengths to ensure New Brunswickers pay the lowest electricity rates possible, and we look at every opportunity we can to reduce our own costs and increase our internal efficiencies before we raise rates.  For details on what’s driving this rate increase request and where the money will go, please click here.

The NBEUB will determine if the request is reasonable and if the costs are necessary. If you are interested in learning more about our application, or participating in the hearing process, you can visit our General Rate Application webpage.

While our rates are the lowest of any province in the Maritimes, we know many customers heat their homes with electricity and have high bills especially in the winter months. We offer payment plans to help you manage your bills, resources for managing your energy usage and programs to help make homes more energy efficient. You can find more information at:
 
 
Énergie NB Power
P.O. Box 2000, 515 King St | Fredericton NB, E3B 4X1

 

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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:59 PM
Subject: Fwd: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board Decision in Matter 541
To: <jdoughart@gmail.com>, Mitchell, Kathleen <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>, Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com <Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com>, Melissa Curran <Melissa.Curran@nbeub.ca>, Young, Dave <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, Dickie, Michael <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, Veronique Otis <Veronique.Otis@nbeub.ca>, Colwell, Susan <Susan.Colwell@nbeub.ca>, Chiasson, Alain (OAG/CPG) <Alain.Chiasson2@gnb.ca>, Hoyt, Len <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>, rburgoyne@coxandpalmer.com <rburgoyne@coxandpalmer.com>, louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca <louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca>, frederic.gionet@cfib.ca <frederic.gionet@cfib.ca>, Sollows, David (ERD/DER) <david.sollows@gnb.ca>, Brandy Gellner <Brandy.Gellner@libertyutilities.com>, Volpé, Gilles <Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com>, Lavigne, David <dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com>, Gordon, Laura <LGordon@nbpower.com>, Waycott, Stephen <SWaycott@nbpower.com>
Cc: Clark, Lori <lclark@nbpower.com>




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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:29 PM
Subject: Fwd: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board Decision in Matter 541
To: Susan.Holt <Susan.Holt@gnb.ca>, robert.mckee <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, hugh.flemming <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, <Steve.Outhouse@gnb.ca>, blaine.higgs <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, Ross.Wetmore <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, rob.moore <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, John.Williamson <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, jake.stewart <jake.stewart@parl.gc.ca>, andrea.anderson-mason <andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>
, Trevor.Holder <Trevor.Holder@gnb.ca>, jeff.carr <jeff.carr@gnb.ca>, Dominic.Cardy <dominic.cardy@gnb.ca>, robert.gauvin <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, Arseneau, Kevin (LEG) <kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>, michelle.conroy <michelle.conroy@gnb.ca>, Mitton, Megan (LEG) <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, bruce.fitch <bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>, briangallant10 <briangallant10@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert. Jones <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, John Furey <JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>, Glenn Zacher (gzacher@stikeman.com) <gzacher@stikeman.com>

 

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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 9:58 AM
Subject: Fwd: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board Decision in Matter 541
To: <Shelley@nbcpd.org>, <Randy@sjhdc.ca>

 

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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:54 PM
Subject: Fwd: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board Decision in Matter 541
To: <jean-pierre.ouellet@haut-madawaska.com>, <jpouelle21@gmail.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

 

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From: <daly@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board Decision in Matter 541
To: John Furey <JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>, Mitchell, Kathleen <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>, <Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com>, Melissa Curran <Melissa.Curran@nbeub.ca>, Young, Dave <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, Veronique Otis <Veronique.Otis@nbeub.ca>, Colwell, Susan <Susan.Colwell@nbeub.ca>, Chiasson, Alain (OAG/CPG) <Alain.Chiasson2@gnb.ca>, Hoyt, Len <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>, Glenn Zacher <GZacher@stikeman.com>, <rburgoyne@coxandpalmer.com>, <louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca>, <frederic.gionet@cfib.ca>, <David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com>, <david.sollows@gnb.ca>, <Brandy.Gellner@libertyutilities.com>, <Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com>, <dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com>
Cc: Waycott, Stephen <SWaycott@nbpower.com>, Gordon, Laura <LGordon@nbpower.com>

Mr John Furey:  This will acknowledge receipt of the Notice to the Court of Appeal with respect to Matter 541.   I will not be applying for status at this proceeding . 

Regards: Gerard Daly

 

 

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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 11:34 AM
Subject: Fwd: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board Decision in Matter 541
To: Ross.Wetmore <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, rob.moore <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, John.Williamson <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, jake.stewart <jake.stewart@parl.gc.ca>, andrea.anderson-mason <andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>, Trevor.Holder <Trevor.Holder@gnb.ca>, jeff.carr <jeff.carr@gnb.ca>, <dominic.cardy@gnb.ca>, robert.gauvin <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, robert.mckee <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, Arseneau, Kevin (LEG) <kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>, michelle.conroy <michelle.conroy@gnb.ca>, Mitton, Megan (LEG) <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>
Cc: Robert. Jones <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>

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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board Decision in Matter 541
To: John Furey <JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>, Holland, Mike (LEG) <mike.holland@gnb.ca>, blaine.higgs <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, kris.austin <kris.austin@gnb.ca>, Mike.Comeau <Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>, martin.gaudet <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, Mark.Blakely <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, <crystal.critch@gnb.ca>
Cc: Mitchell, Kathleen <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>, Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com <Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com>, Melissa Curran <Melissa.Curran@nbeub.ca>, Young, Dave <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, Veronique Otis <Veronique.Otis@nbeub.ca>, Colwell, Susan <Susan.Colwell@nbeub.ca>, Chiasson, Alain (OAG/CPG) <Alain.Chiasson2@gnb.ca>, Hoyt, Len <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>, Glenn Zacher (gzacher@stikeman.com) <GZacher@stikeman.com>, rburgoyne@coxandpalmer.com <rburgoyne@coxandpalmer.com>, louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca <louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca>, frederic.gionet@cfib.ca <frederic.gionet@cfib.ca>, daly@nbnet.nb.ca <daly@nbnet.nb.ca>, david.sollows@gnb.ca <david.sollows@gnb.ca>, Brandy.Gellner@libertyutilities.com <Brandy.Gellner@libertyutilities.com>, Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com <Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com>, dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com <dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com>, Waycott, Stephen <SWaycott@nbpower.com>, Gordon, Laura <LGordon@nbpower.com>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 14:08:21 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of
Board Decision in Matter 541
To: crystal.critch@gnb.ca

Court of Appeal File No.:    68-23-CA

IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF NEW BRUNSWICK

UNDER SECTION 52(1) OF THE ENERGY AND UTILITIES BOARD ACT, SNB 2006,
c. E-9.18, AND RULE 69 OF THE RULES OF COURT, NB REG 82-73

BETWEEN:
NEW BRUNSWICK POWER CORPORATION,

APPLICANT,
                                - and –

NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY AND UTILITIES BOARD,

RESPONDENT.

TO:             NEW BRUNSWICK COURT OF APPEAL
AND TO:         New Brunswick Power Corporation, Applicant

ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF RECEIPT
I hereby acknowledge that on the        day of July, 2023, I received
the following documents:
a)      Notice of Application dated July 4, 2023, issued by the Court of
Appeal on July 5, 2023;

b)      Affidavit of Darren Murphy dated July 4, 2023, with Exhibits “A”
through “I” attached; and

c)      Correspondence from the Deputy Registrar of the Court of Appeal
dated July 5, 2023.

I am a Registered Party who is named at the top of the notice of
application why would I be required to seek status?


Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Furey <JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 16:03:36 +0000
Subject: Court of Appeal File No. 68-23-CA - Judicial Review of Board
Decision in Matter 541
To: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>,
"Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com
" <Aherrington@lawsoncreamer.com>,
Melissa Curran <Melissa.Curran@nbeub.ca>, "Young, Dave"
<Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, "Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca"
<Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, Veronique Otis <Veronique.Otis@nbeub.ca>,
"Colwell, Susan" <Susan.Colwell@nbeub.ca>, "Chiasson, Alain (OAG/CPG)"
<Alain.Chiasson2@gnb.ca>, "Hoyt, Len" <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
"Glenn Zacher (gzacher@stikeman.com)" <GZacher@stikeman.com>,
"rburgoyne@coxandpalmer.com" <rburgoyne@coxandpalmer.com>,
"louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca" <louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca>,
"frederic.gionet@cfib.ca" <frederic.gionet@cfib.ca>,
"David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com" <David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com>,
"daly@nbnet.nb.ca" <daly@nbnet.nb.ca>, "david.sollows@gnb.ca"
<david.sollows@gnb.ca>, "Brandy.Gellner@libertyutilities.com"
<Brandy.Gellner@libertyutilities.com>,
"Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com"
<Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com>,
"dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com"
<dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com>
Cc: "Waycott, Stephen" <SWaycott@nbpower.com>, "Gordon, Laura"
<LGordon@nbpower.com>

Dear Ms. Mitchell, Counsel and Registered Parties,

Please find attached the following documentation:

  1.  Court Stamped copy of a Notice of Application dated July 4, 2023
(issued by the Registrar of the Court of Appeal on July 5, 2023);
  2.  Court Stamped copy of the Affidavit of Darren Murphy dated July 4, 2023;
  3.  Copy of correspondence dated July 5, 2023 from the Deputy
Registrar of the Court of Appeal confirming the hearing date of
October 19, 2023 and the dates for filing of further documentation;
and
  4.  An Acknowledgement of Receipt (in both Word and pdf format).

I am providing this documentation to the Board, Board staff, counsel
for those parties who had retained counsel, and those parties who have
not previously retained counsel.  I recognise that counsel for J.D.
Irving Ltd. And Utilities Municipal have changed since the hearing of
this matter, and will reach out to those counsel directly.

May I ask that each registered party execute and return to me the
Acknowledgement of Receipt that has been enclosed.  The form has been
adapted to permit execution by counsel, an authorized representative,
or the party themselves where they are individuals who have intervened
without counsel.

NB Power has not automatically added Registered Interveners in Matter
541 as parties to this Application.  The practice in these matters is
not to do so, and to require such interested persons to apply to the
Court of Appeal for status as an intervener in this proceeding.  NB
Power will not object to any such motion for status which is brought
to the Court.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to me.

Regards,

John

John G. Furey
Barrister & Solicitor
John G. Furey Professional Corporation
265 Berkley Drive
New Maryland, NB
E3C 1B9
Email: JohnFurey@fureylegal.com<mailto:JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>
Phone: 506-444-1328
Fax:      506-300-2076
 
 
 
THE COURT OF APPEAL
OF NEW BRUNSWICK
 
LA COUR D'APPEL
DU NOUVEAU-BRUNSWICK

Registrar's Office
Room 201 -Justice Building
P. 0. Box 6000
Fredericton, N.B.
E3B 5H1

July 5, 2023

John G. Furey
JOHN G. FUREY PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION
265 Berkley Drive
New Maiyland, NB E3C 1B9
 
RE: Notice of Application
File no. 68-23-CA
 
Dear Mr. Furey,

The hearing in this matter is scheduled to be heard on October 19, 2023 at 10:00 a.m..

This is subject to having received all the required documents as per the Rules of Court.
Pursuant to Rule 69. 08(2)(a), the Applicant is required to file and serve the Record and
Submission by August 31, 2023. Pursuant to Rule 69. 08(2)(b) the Respondent's Submission is
due by September 20, 2023.

I have copied this letter to only the named Respondent. Please advise ifthere are other
interested parties who should be notified.
Sincerely,

Crystal Critch
Deputy Registrar
C.C.: Kathleen Mitchell
CC/cta

P.O. BOX 6000, FREDERICTON, NB E3B 5111  ̄ C.P. 6000, FREDERICTON, NB E3B 5H1
 

 Court of Appeal File No.:
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF NEW BRUNSWICK
UNDER SECTION 52(1) OF THE ENERGY AND UTILITIES BOARD
ACT, SNB 2006, c. E-9.18, AND RULE 69 OF THE RULES OF COURT,
NB REG 82-73
BETWEEN:

NEW BRUNSWICK POWER
CORPORATION,

APPLICANT,

-and -
NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY AND
UTILITIES BOARD,

RESPONDENT.

NOTICE OF APPLICATION AVIS DE REQUETE
(FORM 16D) (FORMULE 16D)

TO:
Canadian Federation of
Independent Business
do Louis-Philippe Gauthier
814 Main Street
Moncton, NB E1C 1E6
David Amos
P0 Box 809
Kars,NB E5T2X2

DESTINATAIRE:

,,- AND

JUL 052023

ET D'° ?j

'1

Department of Natural
Resources and Energy
Development
P0 Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1
Gerard Daley
527 Beaverbrook Court
Suite 160
Fredericton, NB
E3B 1X6
J.D. Irving Limited
do Glenn Zacher
Stikeman Elliot LLP
5300 Commerce Court West
199 Bay Street
Toronto, Ontario
M5L 1B9
Liberty Utilities LP
do Brandy Geilner
440 Wilsey Road, Suite 101
Fredericton, NB
E2B 7G5
New Brunswick Energy and
Utilities Board
do Kathleen Mitchell
P0 Box 6001
15 Market Square, Suite 1400
Saint John, NB
E2L 1E8

3

Public Intervener
do J.M. Alain Chiasson
Department of Justice and
Public Safety
Marysville Place,
P0 Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1
Twin Rivers Paper Company
Inc.
do Len Hoyt, K.C.
Mclnnes Cooper
570 Queen Street
P0 Box 610, Station A
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5A6
Utilities -Municipal
do Ryan Burgoyne
Cox & Palmer
300-77 Westmorland Street
P0 Box 310
Fredericton, NB
E3B4Y9

4

LEGAL PROCEEDINGS HAVE
BEEN COMMENCED BY
FILING THIS NOTICE OF
APPLICATION.

The Applicant will make an
application for judicial review of a
decision of the New Brunswick
Energy and Utilities Board dated
June 7, 2023, before the Court of
Appeal at the Justice Building,
427 Queen Street, Fredericton,
New Brunswick, on the /7 y
of __________, 2023 at
/Od7Q97 , and in
particular for an order as set out
hereunder.

PAR LE DEPOT DU PRESENT
AVIS DE REQUETE, UNE
POURSUITE JUDICIAIRE A
ETE ENGAGEE

La requerante présentera une
demande de revision judiciaire
d'une decision de Ia Commission
de l'energie et des services
publics du Nouveau-Brunswick
en date 2023, a Ia
Cour d'appel au Palais de justice,
427, rue Queen, Fredericton,
Nouveau Brunswick, le
2023 a en vue

d'obtenir I'ordonnance décrite ci-
dessous.

5

If you wish to oppose this
application you must appear at
the hearing of the application at
the place, date and time stated,
either in person or by a New
Brunswick lawyer acting on your
behalf.

If you intend to appear on the
hearing of the application and
wish to present to the Court at
that time affidavit or other
documentary evidence to
support your position, you must
serve a copy of such evidence on
the Applicant or its lawyer and,
with proof of such service, file it
in this Court Office prior to the
hearing of the application.

Si vous désirez contester cette
req uete, vous devreez
comparaItre àl'audition de Ia
requete aux lieu, date et heure
indiques, soi ten personne ou par
l'intermédiaire d'un avocat du
Nouveau-Brunswick chargé de
vous representer.

Si vous prévoyez comparaItre a
l'audition de Ia requete et désirez
presenter a Ia Cour un affidavit
ou une autre prevue littérale en
votre faveur, vous devrez
signifier copie de ceffe prevue a
Ia req uerante ou a son avocat et
Ia deposer, avec une prevue de
sa signification, au greffe de
ceffe Court avant l'audition de Ia
requête.

If you fail to appear on the
hearing of the application AN
ORDER WHICH MAY AFFECT
YOU MAY BE MADE IN YOUR
ABSENCE.

You are advised that:

(a) you are entitled to issue
documents and present
evidence in the proceeding
in English or French or
both;

(b) the Applicant intends to
proceed in the English
language; and

Si vous ne comparaissez pas a
I'audition de Ia requete, UNE
ORDONNANCE POUVANT
VOUS CONCERNER POURRA
ETRE RENDUE EN VOTRE
ABSENCE.

Sachez que:

(a) vous avez le droit dans Ia
présente instance,
d'émettre des documents et
de presenter votre prevue
en francais, en anglais ou
dans les deux langues;
(b) Ia requerante a l'intention
d'utiliser Ia langue anglaise;
et

7

(c) if you require the services of
an interpreter at the hearing
you must advise the
Registrar at least 7 days
before the hearing.

THIS NOTICE is signed and
sealed for the Court of Appeal by
Caroline Lafontaine, Registrar of
the Court, at Fredericton, NB on
the 5 day of July, 2023.

(c) si vous avez besoin des
services d'un intreprète a
l'audience, vous devez en
adviser le registraire au
moms 7 jours avant
I'audience.

CET AVIS est signe au nom de
Ia Court d'appel par Caroline
Lafontaine, registraire de Ia
Court a Fredericton, N.-B., ce
2023.

1CCLf tame, Registrar
Court of Appeal of New Brunswick
Room 202, Justice Building, 427 Queen Street
P0 Box 6000
Fredericton, NB
E3B 5H1

8

APPLICATION FOR JUDCAL REVIEW

ORDER SOUGHT
On the hearing of this Application for judicial review, the Applicant,
New Brunswick Power Corporation, intends to apply for:

1. An Order that the Decision of the Respondent, the New Brunswick
Energy and Utilities Board, in Matter No. 541, referenced as "IN
THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power
Corporation pursuant to subsection 103(1) of the Electricity Act S.N.B.
2013, c. 7 for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1, 2023", consisting of:
(i) a Partial Decision dated March 16, 2023 (the "Partial
Decision");
(ii) an Order dated March 31, 2023 (the "Order"); and
(iii) a Final Decision of the Respondent dated June 7,
2023 (the "Final Decision")

(collectively referred to as the "Decision"):

(a) be removed into this Honourable Court, quashed, not
remitted to the Board for reconsideration and that this
Honourable Court fix a uniform rate increase of 8.9 per cent
across all customer classes of New Brunswick Power
Corporation for the fiscal year commencing on April 1,

2023, such rate increase to be effective on a date to be
determined by this Honourable Court;

(b) in the alternative, be removed into this Honourable Court,
quashed, not remitted to the Board for reconsideration and
that this Honourable Court fix a uniform rate increase
across all customer classes of New Brunswick Power
Corporation, at a percentage determined by this
Honourable Court to be just and reasonable, for the fiscal
year commencing on April 1, 2023, such rate increase to be
effective on a date to be determined by this Honourable
Court;

(c) in the further alternative, be removed into this Honourable
Court, quashed, remitted to the Board for reconsideration
with or without directions as to the determination of a just
and reasonable uniform rate increase for the fiscal year
commencing on April 1, 2023; and

2. Such further and other relief as this Honourable Court deems just.

CAPACITY AND RESIDENCE OF THE PARTIES:
The Applicant, New Brunswick Power Corporation ("NB Power") is
a body corporate, continued under the Electricity Act SNB 2013, c.
7, as amended (the "Electricity Act'), and having its head office at 515
King Street in the City of Fredericton, Province of New Brunswick.

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2. The Respondent, the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
(the "NBEUB" or the "Board"), is a statutory board continued
pursuant to Section 3 of the Energy and Utilities Board Act, SNB
2006, c. E-9.18 (the "EUB Act'). The Board's offices are located at
15 Market Square, Suite 1400, in the City of Saint John, Province
of New Brunswick.

GROUNDS TO BE ARGUED:
3. NB Power is an integrated electric utility which owns generation,
transmission and distribution assets within New Brunswick, and
provides electricity and related services to approximately 366,000
customers within New Brunswick. By virtue of sections 72 and 81
of the Electricity Act, NB Power is, with some exceptions, the sole
provider of such services within New Brunswick.

The Rate Setting Requirements of the Electricity Act

4. Pursuant to section 103 of the ElectricityAct, NB Power is required to
apply to the Board for approval of the schedules of rates it proposes to
charge for its services, for each fiscal year.

5. The Board's jurisdiction under subsection 103(6) of the ElectricityAct is
to approve the rates applied for, if it finds them to be just and reasonable,
or to otherwise fix rates that it finds to be just and reasonable. The
Board's discretion in approving or fixing such rates is not unfettered,
Under subsection 103(7) the Board is required, in approving or fixing just

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and reasonable rates, to base its order or decision on the revenue
requirements of NB Power, "taking into consideration", inter alia, the
following:

(a) the policy of the Government of New Brunswick set out in
section 68 of the ElectricityAct;
(b) the most recent strategic, financial and capital investment
plan filed with the Board under section 101 of the Electricity
Act; and
(c) any directive issued by the Executive Council under section
69 of the ElectricityAct that may be relevant.

6. "Revenue requirements" is defined in the ElectricityActas the annual
amount of revenue required to cover a variety of projected expenses,
and a reasonable return. The definition was altered from that which
existed in the predecessor legislation governing the Board's rate selling
jurisdiction prior to 2013, being the Electricity Act, SNB 2003, c. E-4.6.
In the previous legislation, the definition included "a reasonable return on
equity."

7. The government policy set out in section 68 of the Electricity Act, inter
a/ia, states that:

(a) rates charged by NB Power for sales of electricity within New
Brunswick should provide sufficient revenue to NB Power to
permit it to earn a just and reasonable return, in the context of its
objective to achieve a capital structure of at least 20% equity; and

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(b) consistent with that policy objective, rates shall be
maintained as low as possible and changes in rates shall
be stable and predictable from year to year.

Section 69 of the ElectricityAct provides that the Executive Council
may at any time issue directives in writing to NB Power.

Section 101 of the ElectricityAct requires that NB Power file, as part of
any application under section 103, a plan covering three consecutive
fiscal years which includes, inter alia, the revenue requirements for NB
Power for each fiscal year, together with the projected annual change in
rates for each fiscal year necessary to meet those revenue
requirements.

Previous Deci&ons of the Board

10. The Board has considered seven applications by NB Power for
approval of rates since the Electricity Act was proclaimed in force on
October 1, 2013, in the following matters:

(a) Matter 272 -2015/16 General Rate Application ("GRA");
(b) Matter 307 -2016/17 GRA;
(c) Matter 336 -2017/18 GRA;
(d) Matter 375 -2018/19 GRA;
(e) Matter 430 -2019/20 GRA;
(f) Matter 458 -2020/2 1 GRA; and
(g) Matter 541 -2023/24 GRA, being the Matter which is the

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subject of the within Application.

ii. In its Reasons for Decision in Matter 272, dated October 28, 2015,
the Board addressed NB Power's request for approval of a
revenue requirement which included a "return" of $90.6 million in
net income. In assessing the requested return, the Board, inter
a/ia:

(a) stated that its consideration of whether a proposed revenue
requirement is reasonable includes a range of factors,
including those enumerated by subsections 103(7) and
103(8) of the ElectricityAct;

(b) recognized the state of NB Power's capital structure at that
time, being projected as 93% debt and 7% equity for the
2015/16 fiscal year, as a "significant factor";

(c) stated that the capital structure goal must be considered by
the Board in the context of subsection 103(7) of the Electricity
Act;

(d) concluded that it would not at that time apply return on equity
principles to determine a reasonable return; and

(e) on the basis of the foregoing, approved a projected return for
the 2015/16 fiscal year in the form of forecasted net earnings
in the amount of $90.6 million.

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12. In its Decision in Matter 307, dated July 21, 2016, the Board again
addressed approval of the requested revenue requirement which
included a projected return for the 2016/17 fiscal year in the
amount of $92.4 million in net income. In approving the requested
net income, the Board noted that the objective of building equity
and reducing debt was "understood" as part of NB Power's 10
Year Plan, and as a policy objective under section 68 of the
Electricity Act. The Board stated that the balance between
building equity, reducing debt and maintaining low and stable rates
is determined in each year on the basis of "test year" information,
allowing the Board to set rates based on current financial
information, in the context of longer term goals and objectives.

13. In the Decisions of the Board in each of Matter 336, Matter 375
and Matter 430 the Board approved the net income requested by
NB Power with no additional comments regarding the manner of
determining the return.

14. In the Decision in Matter 430, the Board directed NB Power to file
future rate applications on or before the first Wednesday of
October, for the purpose of allowing sufficient time for Board
processes and implementation of approved rates by the
commencement of NB Power's fiscal year on April 1.

15. In its Decision in Matter 458, the Board again approved NB
Power's requested net income. While concurring in the result,
Board Member Herron issued dissenting reasons which:

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(a) noted that NB Power had received a mandate letter from the
Government of New Brunswick directing it to achieve its
objective of 20% equity by 2027;

(b) noted that the equity target was a "principal concern" of all
lnterveners;

(c) stated that the direction to achieve the equity target by 2027,
prior to the onset of spending on the Mactaquac Project,
serves as a "call to action" and that the lack of progress in
achieving the equity ratio "must be seen by the Board as its
most significant concern";

(d) found that the then current rate trajectory and projected net
earnings were insufficient; and

(e) found that sustained cost control and a more prudent rate
trajectory were both necessary to achieve the target equity
ratio by 2027.

16. In its Decision in Matter 458 the Board also addressed the issue
of filing updated financial information prior to commencement of
the Board's hearing. The Board determined that it would base its
decision on the reasonableness of the revenue requirement
forecasts at the time of the filing of the application, being the first
Wednesday in October. The Board qualified this conclusion in the
event of "a material or exceptional change", which the Board

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indicated it would deal with on a case by case basis.

The Hearing in Matter 541

17. NB Power filed its 2023/24 General Rate Application with
supporting evidence on October 5, 2022, in compliance with the
Board's directions. Following completion of the Board's interim
processes, the hearing was conducted over eight days,
commencing on February 13, 2023 and concluding on February
24, 2023. In addition to the evidence led by NB Power, NBEUB
Staff and the Public Intervener led expert evidence. In total, five
parties other than NB Power actively participated in the hearing
process, including the cross-examination of NB Power witness
panels and presentation of final arguments. These participating
parties included Board Staff, the Public Intervener, and the
following parties granted intervener status by the Board: J.D.
Irving, Limited ("JDI"), Twin Rivers Paper Company Ltd. ("Twin
Rivers'), and Utilities Municipal. Other registered interveners
attended but did not actively participate in the hearing process.

18. During the course of the hearing, JDI requested an undertaking
which required NB Power to provide additional evidence
consisting of updated forecasts related to NB Power's Fuel and
Purchased Power ("F&PP") Expense. NB Power objected on the
basis of the Board's decision in Matter 458, and specifically on the
basis that permitting an update of a single factor was contrary to
established regulatory principles that require the Board to consider

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all relevant factors. The Board ordered that the F&PP Expense
update (the "Update") be provided, without deciding that it would
be the basis upon which the Board would assess the
reasonableness of NB Power's requested revenue requirements.

19. The Update disclosed that NB Power's forecast Total Gross
Margin for the 2023/24 fiscal year was improved by $106.5 million,
$85.1 million of which arose from an improvement in Export Gross
Margin due to the success of NB Power's subsidiary in bidding on
certain export contracts for the 2023 calendar year. These export
contracts produced the referenced improvement in margin
forecast for the 2023/24 fiscal year, but an offsetting loss in the
2022/23 fiscal year of $31.5 million. The improvement in margin
reflected significant increases in the F&PP expense required to
serve the new export contracts, but a larger increase in revenue
associated with those contracts.

20. The Board heard additional evidence with respect to other relevant
changes to NB Power's financial circumstances between the filing
of NB Power's application on October 5, 2022 and the date of the
hearing. The totality of all changes was substantially negative. The
most significant changes were as follows:

(a) Due primarily to unplanned outages at the Point Lepreau
Nuclear Generating Station ("PLNGS") and the Bayside
Generating Station in the late fall of 2022 and early winter of
2023, the Total Gross Margin on sales of electricity by NB

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Power for the 2022/23 fiscal year was forecast to be $264.4
million lower than prior forecasts;

(b) As a result, NB Power's debt/equity ratio had deteriorated
from 90/10 as of September 30, 2022 to 93/7 as of December
31, 2022;

(C) NB Power's most recent forecast for interest expense for the
2023/24 fiscal year was approximately $30 million higher
than the forecast contained in NB Power's initial application;

(d) NB Power's forecast for the capacity factor of the PLNGS for
the 2022/23 fiscal year had been reduced from 77.6% to
55.2%, compared to a forecast of 88.9% capacity factor for
the 2023/24 fiscal year.

21. The Board received in evidence a mandate letter, dated February
14, 2022, issued to NB Power under section 3 of the
Accountability and Continuous Improvement Act, SNB 2013,
c.27, as amended (the "Mandate Letter"). The Mandate Letter
directs NB Power to make plans to achieve a capital structure of
at least 20% equity by March 31, 2027, and is approved by the
Executive Council under subsection 3(4) of the Accountability
and Continuous Improvement Act.

The Decision in Matter 541
22. On March 16, 2023, the Board issued the Partial Decision, which

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directed NB Power to update its F&PP Expense, load forecast and
revenue forecast in accordance with the Update provided at the
hearing, adjusted downward for the related negative impact in the
2022/23 fiscal year of $31.5 million.

23. The Partial Decision further directed NB Power to refile its 2023/24
test year budget, cost of service study, proof of revenue and
resulting rates with the following adjustments:

(a) the adjustments resulting from the Update;

(b) the manual downward adjustment to Export Gross Margin of
$31.5 million;

(c) a manual upward adjustment to Finance Costs of $30 million,
in recognition of the impact of higher interest rates and level
of debt; and

(d) a reduction of Amortization and Depreciation Expense in the
amount of $3.3 million.

24. In compliance with the Partial Decision, NB Power filed further
information with the Board on March 24, 2023, March 28, 2023,
and March 29, 2023.

25. On March 31, 2023 the Board issued the Order in which it, inter
a/ia, reduced the requested rate increase of 8.9% to an approved

uniform rate increase of 5.7% across all customer classes.

26. The Partial Decision provided that the Board would issue the Final
Decision at a later date, with reasons, and that in the event of any
differences between the Final Decision and the Partial Decision,
the Final Decision would govern.

27. On June 7, 2023 the Board issued its Final Decision, with reasons.
In the Final Decision the Board determined that a rate increase of
5.7% across all rate classes was just and reasonable. The Board
stated that the increase was lower than NB Power's requested
increase of 8.9% because:

(a) NB Power is forecast to earn more revenue from in-province
and out-of-province energy sales due to unexpected export
sales contracts and lower cost of fuel compared to its
expectations at the time the rate application was filed;

(b) NB Power is forecast to incur higher financing costs
compared to its expectations at the time the rate application
was filed; and

(c) NB Power proposes including depreciation expense related
to an ongoing capital project that the Board stills needs to
approve.

28. The Board further directed that NB Power file an updated F&PP

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forecast by January 21st of each year as a minimum filing
requirement for future general rate applications.

The Decision is Unreasonable

29. The Board's Decision is unreasonable both in the overall result,
and in the manner in which the Board reached its conclusions.

30. The Board's overall determination of NB Power's rates for the
2023/24 fiscal year is unreasonable, in light of the statutory
scheme for setting rates, principles of statutory interpretation, the
relevant evidence, the submissions of the parties and the Board's
previous decisions, for the following reasons:

(a) The overall determination reduced the rate increase
requested on the basis of the Update, in circumstances in
which the totality of the changes in relevant circumstances
between the filing of NB Power's application and the time of
the hearing was substantially negative;

(b) The Board failed to consider the rate setting provisions of
the Electricity Act, the relevant factors as required by
subsection 103(7), and in particular the policy of the
Government of New Brunswick as expressed in section 68,
and the Mandate Letter, being a direction in writing from the
Executive Council under section 69;

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(C) The Board misapprehended or failed to consider the
relevant evidence of negative impacts on NB Power's equity
ratio, and unreasonably focused on a less significant
improvement resulting from the improvement in forecast
Total Gross Margin for the 2023/24 fiscal year; and

(d) The Board failed to consider the submissions of the Public
Intervener, both with respect to consideration of the Update,
and with respect to the overall rate increase and the factors
the Board should consider in approving a rate increase.

31. The decision to require updates in future rate applications solely
for F&PP expense is also unreasonable, as it is contrary to expert
evidence that all relevant factors should be updated, failed to
address accepted regulatory and legal principles that if updates
are to be considered, all relevant factors should be updated, and
deviated from the Board's previous decisions in Matter 375 and
Matter 458.

32. The manner in which the Board reached its Decision was also
unreasonable, as its reasoning process failed to meet the standard
of internal rationality. In particular:

(a) The Board adjusted the requested rate increase to reflect the
improvement in forecast Total Gross Margin of $106.5 million
in the 2023/24 fiscal year, as disclosed in the Update, on the
basis that it constituted a material or exceptional

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circumstance. In setting the rate increase, the Board
misapprehended or failed to consider the materiality or
exceptionality of the deterioration of Total Gross Margin in
the 2022/23 fiscal year in the amount of $246.1 million
(disclosed in the same Update), despite its recognition that
the forecast losses in the 2022/23 fiscal year would be a
heavy burden on future ratepayers. The Board further
misapprehended NB Power's argument that assessment of
materiality must be based on the materiality of impacts on
the revenue requirements as a whole, and not the materiality
of a single factor.

(b) In finding that the $106.5 million improvement in Total Gross
Margin was a material circumstance, the Board relied on the
introduction of regulatory variance accounts and a
corresponding rate rider mechanism, on the basis that the
regulatory accounts were an extraordinary external event
which shifted the consequences of forecast error wholly onto
ratepayers. The Board further justified the decision on the
basis that use of the Update would reduce forecast error, and
that such reduction would minimize the balance of the
variance accounts, which the Board found to be a relevant
factor. By considering and updating for the improvement in
Total Gross Margin in 2023/24, and simultaneously failing to
consider the deterioration of Total Gross Margin in the
2022/23 fiscal year in setting rates for the 2023/24 fiscal year,
the Board's decision results in higher variance account

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balances, a result which is internally inconsistent with the
Board's stated goal.

(c) Despite stating that it would consider all available updated
evidence, and acknowledging that all experts who provided
evidence to the Board testified that any forecast update
should update all relevant inputs to the revenue
requirements, the Board failed to consider the single largest
relevant input, being the deterioration of Total Gross Mann in
2022/23.

(d) The Board failed to address the central argument presented
by NB Power: that rates must be set by taking into
consideration the policy that NB Power should earn a
reasonable return in the context of NB Power's objective to
earn sufficient income to achieve 20% equity in its capital
structure by March 31, 2027. Despite acknowledging the
deterioration in NB Power's debt/equity ratio and the policy
that rates should allow NB Power to reduce the level of debt
in its capital structure, the Board failed to consider either
factor in seffing rates for the 2023/24 fiscal year. The
decision is silent on the consideration of the policy goal in
setting rates, and does not reference the Mandate Letter.
The Board's failure to address these matters makes it
impossible to understand its reasoning on a critical point.

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Relief Requested

33. Pursuant to subsection 52(1) of the Energy and Utilities BoardAct,
NB Power seeks judicial review of the Decision and respectfully
requests the following relief from this Honourable Court:

(a) that the Decision be removed into this Honourable Court,
quashed, not remitted to the Board for reconsideration and
that this Honourable Court fix a uniform rate increase of 8.9
per cent across all customer classes of New Brunswick
Power Corporation for the fiscal year commencing on April 1,
2023, such rate increase to be effective on a date to be
determined by this Honourable Court;

(b) in the alternative, that the Decision be removed into this
Honourable Court, quashed, not remitted to the Board for
reconsideration and that this Honourable Court fix a uniform
rate increase across all customer classes of New Brunswick
Power Corporation, at a percentage determined by this
Honourable Court to be just and reasonable, for the fiscal
year commencing on April 1, 2023, such rate increase to be
effective on a date to be determined by this Honourable
Court;
(c) in the further alternative, that the Decision be removed into
this Honourable Court, quashed, remitted to the Board for
reconsideration with or without directions as to the
determination of a just and reasonable uniform rate increase

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for the fiscal year commencing on April 1, 2023; and

(d) such further and other relief as this Honourable Court deems
just.

STATUTORY PROVISIONS AND EVIDENCE RELIED UPON

34. NB Power will rely upon the following statutory provisions:
(a) Energy and Utilities Board Act, SNB 2006, c. E-9.18,
including sections 3, 23, 40, 43, 46 and 52;
(b) Electricity Act, S.N.B. 2013, c. 7, as amended, including sections
1, 68, 69, 72, 81, 82, 87, 100, 101, 102, 103, 103.1, 117.4, and
127;
(c) Electricity Act, S.N.B. 2003, c. E-4.6, as amended (repealed)
including section 1
(d) An Act to Amend the Electricity Act, SNB 2021 c. 42, including
sections 43, 44 and 45;
(e) Regulatory Variance Accounts and DeferralAccount Regulation -
Electricity Act, NB Regulation 2022-17, including sections 2
through 12
(f) Accountability and Continuous Improvement Act, SNB 2013,
c.27, including sections 2.1 and 3;
(g) General Regulation -Accountability and Continuous
ImprovementAct, NB Regulation 2022-80, including sections
3, 4 and Schedule A;
(h) An Act Respecting a Public Intervenerfor the Energy Sector,
SNB 2013, c.28, including section 6; and

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(i) Rules of Court, NB Regulation 82-73, including Rules 1, 2, 3,
16, 38, 59, 62, 69, 69.04(1)(b), 69.05(4), 69.08(2), 69.10,
69.12, 69.13(1), 69.13(3) and 69.13(7).

35. NB Power will rely upon the following documentary evidence at the
hearing of this Application:

(a) the Affidavit of Darren Murphy sworn to on July 1, 2023;
and
(b) the Record of the Proceeding before the Board including the
evidence and transcripts from the proceeding, to be filed in
accordance with Rule 69. 08(2)(a)(i).

ILi/r

DATED at Fredericton, New Brunswick this 7 day of July, 2023.

John G. Furey
Solicitor for the Applicant,
Brunswick Power Co

John G. Furey Professional Corporation
265 Berkley Drive
New Maryland, NB
E3C 1B9
Ph: (506)444-1328
Fax: (506) 300-2076
JohnFurey@fureylegal.com

 

 

Court of Appeal File No.: 68oLC4

IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF NEW BRUNSWICK
UNDER SECTION 52(1) OF THE ENERGYAND UTILITIES BOARD ACT, SNB 2006, c.
E-9.18, AND RULE 69 OF THE RULES OF COURT, NB REG 82-73
BETWEEN:

NEW BRUNSWICK POWER CORPORATION,

APPLICANT,

1iIs
NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY AND UTILITIES BOARD,
RESPON DENT.

AFFIDAVIT OF DARREN MURPHY

John G. Furey
Solicitor for the Applicant
John G. Furey Professional Corporation
265 Berkley Drive
New Maryland, NB
E3C 1B9
Ph: (506)444-1328
Fax: (506) 300-2076
JohnFurey@fureyleqal.com

New Brunswick Energy and
Utilities Board
P0 Box 6001
15 Market Square, Suite 1400
Saint John, NB
E2L 1E8
Attention: Kathleen Mitchell, Chief
Clerk



Court of Appeal File No.:
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF NEW BRUNSWICK
UNDER SECTION 52(1) OF THE ENERGY AND UTILITIES BOARD
ACT, SNB 2006, c. E-9.18, AND RULE 69 OF THE RULES OF COURT,
NB REG 82-73
BETWEEN:

NEW BRUNSWICK POWER
CORPORATION,

APPLICANT,

-and -
NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY AND
UTILITIES BOARD,

RESPONDENT.

AFFIDAVIT OF DARREN MURPHY

I, DARREN MURPHY, of the City of Fredericton, in the Province of New
Brunswick, MAKE OATH AND SAY AS FOLLOWS:

1. I am the Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice-President,
Corporate Services and Major Projects of New Brunswick Power
Corporation ("NB Power"). I have personal knowledge of the facts
herein deposed unless stated to be based upon information and
belief, and I am authorized by NB Power to make this affidavit in
support of its Application seeking judicial review pursuant to

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section 52 of the Energy and Utilities Board Act, SNB 2006, c. E-
2. Since the effective date of the Electricity Act, SNB 2013, c. 7, as

amended (the "Electricity Act'), NB Power has made seven
applications to the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board (the
"Board") for approval of rates to be charged to customers within
New Brunswick.

3. Attached hereto as Exhibit "A" is a true copy of the decision of
the Board in Matter 272, dated October 28, 2015, with respect to
NB Power's application for approval of rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1,2015.

4. Attached hereto as Exhibit "B" is a true copy of the decision of
the Board in Matter 307, dated July 21, 2016, with respect to NB
Power's application for approval of rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1,2016.

5. Attached hereto as Exhibit "C" is a true copy of the decision of
the Board in Matter 336, dated June 14, 2017, with respect to NB
Power's application for approval of rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1, 2017.

6. Attached hereto as Exhibit "D" is a true copy of the decision of
the Board in Matter 375, dated July 20, 2018, with respect to NB

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Power's application for approval of rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1,2018.

7. Attached hereto as Exhibit "E" is a true copy of the decision of the
Board in Matter 430, dated July 16, 2019, with respect to NB
Power's application for approval of rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1,2019.

8. Attached hereto as Exhibit "F" is a true copy of the decision of the
Board in Matter 458, dated October 2, 2020, with respect to NB
Power's application for approval of rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1, 2020.

9. In compliance with directions of the Board in the Matter 458
decision, NB Power filed its application and supporting evidence
with respect to its application for approval of rates for its 2023/24
fiscal year (Matter 541) on October 5, 2022. Following completion
of the interrogatory and other interim processes as directed by the
Board, a hearing was conducted over eight days between
February 13, 2023 and February 24, 2023. In addition to the
evidence led by NB Power, expert evidence was filed by Board
Staff and the Public Intervener.

10. On March 16, 2023, the Board issued a Partial Decision in Matter
541, a true copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit "G".

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11. On March 31, 2023 the Board issued an Order in Matter 541, a true
copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit "H".

12. On June 7, 2023 the Board issued its Decision in Matter 541, a true
copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit "I".

 

Darren Murphy



SWORN TO BEFORE ME at the
City of Fredericton, in the County
Of York and Provinpe of New
Brunswick this 4th day of
July, 2023.

John G. Furey
A Commissioner of Oaths
being a Solicitor


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"sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com" <sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com>,
"margot.cragg@umnb.ca" <margot.cragg@umnb.ca>,
"jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com" <jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com>,
"dan.dionne@perth-andover.com" <dan.dionne@perth-andover.com>,
"pierreroy@edmundston.ca" <pierreroy@edmundston.ca>,
"ray.robinson@sjenergy.com" <ray.robinson@sjenergy.com>,
"sstoll@airdberlis.com" <sstoll@airdberlis.com>,
"pzarnett@bdrenergy.com" <pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>,
"leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca" <leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca>,
Bill.Marshall@rogers.com, Bill.Marshall653@gmail.com,
fred.bergman@apec-econ.ca, atlantic.director@taxpayer.com,

"Frank.McKenna" <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, david.chaundy@apec-econ.ca
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "Holland, Mike (LEG)"
<mike.holland@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"fin.minfinance-financemin.fin"
<fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>, washington field
<washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-hearing-collusion-worries-1.6531558

Secret participants and 'collusion' worries cause halt in N.B. Power hearing

Utility calls for consultant representing unnamed clients to be expelled
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jul 26, 2022 6:00 AM AT


N.B. Power lawyer John Furey has asked the Energy and Utilities board
to expel a consultant participating in the company's current
transmission hearing for representing unnamed clients. (Graham
Thompson/CBC)

An accusation that two or more customers of N.B. Power's transmission
system slipped into a hearing on the utility's transmission rates in a
Trojan Horse-style operation has ground proceedings at the New
Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board to a sudden halt.

N.B. Power is asking that a consultant being paid to represent the
unknown parties be expelled by the EUB and his evidence disallowed.

N.B. Power lawyer John Furey said the utility has believed since late
last year that the consultant, William Marshall, had been representing
only himself at the hearing but is now wondering if he is part of a
larger "collusion" among other participants.

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"It never crossed my mind that Mr. Marshall was here other than as a
member of the public who is interested in the proceedings," Furey said
during the virtual hearing last week. "That he was actually
representing an unnamed third party, I find that — I am shocked by it,
frankly.

"It creates the possibility that there are other interveners in this
proceeding who have also retained Mr. Marshall, and we now have
collusion or corroboration through Mr. Marshall of the position that
another intervener is taking to create the impression for the Board
that there is consensus. It is absolutely unfair."

The hearing, which was postponed earlier in the spring for unrelated
reasons was finally scheduled to conclude last Friday but has now been
adjourned until Aug. 10 to hear arguments on how to deal with N.B.
Power's concerns about cloaked participants.
EUB chair Francois Beaulieu is heading the transmission hearing and
ruled last week proceedings could not continue until N.B. Power's
demand that a consultant be removed is dealt with. (Graham
Thompson/CBC)

Final arguments on transmission rates themselves, which were
originally supposed to be in place back on April 1, have been delayed
until Sept. 9.

N.B. Power's extensive transmission system serves a variety of
businesses and generators that depend upon it to move electricity in
and around the Maritime provinces, Maine, Quebec and deeper into New
England.

The operation of the system, including its fees and expenses, is
regulated by the New Brunswick  Energy and Utilites Board.

Multiple parties, including Marshall, are participating in the hearing
and have been challenging N.B. Power plans to raise fees for its
transmission services. One particularly controversial proposal is a
plan to more than quadruple what N.B.  Power charges to "balance" the
uneven flow of electricity through its system caused by the up and
down production of area wind farms.
N.B. Power has nearly 7,000 kilometres of high-voltage transmission
lines crisscrossing New Brunswick. The system costs up to $145 million
a year to operate, and fees charged to system users offset a portion
of that. (NB Power/Facebook)

Marshall is a former senior N.B. Power executive and once oversaw the
operation of the transmission system as president of the independent
New Brunswick System Operator, which was absorbed by N.B. Power
several years ago. He has operated a private consulting business for
the last 14 years.

Marshall's consulting company WKM Energy Consultants Inc. registered
to participate in the hearing on its own behalf.

But under questioning last week by acting public intervener Rick
Williams, Marshall confirmed the company is being paid by "more than
one" silent party to represent them.

Under additional questioning by Furey, Marshall acknowledged the
parties did not want their participation to be known.
N.B. Power is responsible for 'balancing' the power produced by wind
turbines in New Brunswick, northern Maine and Prince Edward Island.
The current transmission hearing is considering a proposal to
substantially raise fees on wind producers. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)

"The clients that I am [representing] really did not want to be
identified by themselves that they were here, so I am doing it on
their behalf," Marshall said.

"The concern of my client is that, you know, several of them have
relationships with N.B. Power, and they don't want to tarnish those
relationships."

Marshall said it was explicitly in his original application to
participate in the matter that his company had an interest in
participating because it "works regularly with many parties throughout
the region" who are affected by N.B. Power's transmission policies and
charges.

He offered to disclose the identities of those who hired him in
confidence to the EUB, but Furey took the position the parties who
hired Marshall should be the listed participants even if Marshall is
the one who presents their arguments.

"It is not in the public interest to permit Interveners to represent
the interests of undisclosed or unidentified third-party commercial
interests," Furey wrote in a formal notice of motion calling for
Marshall to be expelled and evidence he has submitted to be struck.

"The only possible purpose of such a form of intervention is secrecy,
which is contrary to the "open court" principle which governs Canadian
courts and tribunals," he concluded.
Saint John Energy is represented at N.B. Power's transmission hearing
by a lawyer hired by it and New Brunswick's other two municipal
utilities. It won't say if it is also secretly being represented by
consultant Willian Marshall. (Saint John Energy)

Under questioning, Marshall listed eight clients of his consulting
company that would be impacted by a change in transmission charges in
New Brunswick and suggested "some" of those eight were the ones he was
representing.

Among the eight are Saint John Energy, which takes electricity off
N.B. Power's transmission system to supply city customers, and Liberty
Utilities, which owns the Tinker hydroelectric dam that links to N.B.
Power's transmission system near the Maine and New Brunswick border.

Marshall did not say if either company is among the ones he is working
for, but both are represented separately at the hearing already, and
Furey said there is a danger a secret participant enjoyed "double
representation" throughout the hearing and potentially benefited from
unfair procedural tricks.

"One possible outcome is that one representative of the third-party
interest would be in a position to cross-examine (and thus ask leading
questions of) an expert retained by the second representative of the
third-party interest," wrote Furey in his formal notice of motion.

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Power money troubles

"Double representation may also result in the stacking of multiple
expert witnesses, creating a false impression for the board that there
is consensus that does not truly exist."

On Monday, Saint John Energy would not comment on whether it is one of
the parties paying Marshall.

"There is currently a motion in with the New Brunswick Energy and
Utilities Board on this issue," company spokesperson Jessica DeLong
wrote in an email..

"We will not be commenting at this time out of respect for the NBEUB's process."

The EUB said if a resolution between N.B. Power and Marshall can be
worked out, Aug. 10 may be used to hear final arguments. Otherwise the
day will be devoted to hearing the utility's application to have
Marshall barred from participating.
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Williams, Richard (OAG/CPG)" <Richard.Williams@gnb.ca>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 16:09:48 +0000
Subject: RE: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design / Instance no 559 -
Énergie NB - Établissement des tarifs
To: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>,
"JohnFurey@fureylegal.com" <JohnFurey@fureylegal.com>,
"jpetrie@nbpower.com" <jpetrie@nbpower.com>, "NBPRegulatory
(NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com)" <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>,
"louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca" <louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca>,
"David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com" <David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com>,
"Sollows, David (DNRED/MRNDE)" <David.Sollows@gnb.ca>,
"Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com" <Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com>,
"dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com"
<dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com>, Len Hoyt
<Len.Hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>, "jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com"
<jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com>, "rzarumba@ceadvisors.com"
<rzarumba@ceadvisors.com>, "gerald@kissnb.com" <gerald@kissnb.com>,
"hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com" <hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>,
"SWaycott@nbpower.com" <SWaycott@nbpower.com>, "bcrawford@nbpower.com"
<bcrawford@nbpower.com>, "George.Porter@nbpower.com"
<George.Porter@nbpower.com>, NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>, "Dickie,
Michael" <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, "Young, Dave"
<Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>,
"Ahmad.Faruqui@brattle.com"<Ahmad.Faruqui@brattle.com>,
"Cecile.Bourbonnais@brattle.com" <Cecile.Bourbonnais@brattle.com>,
"rdk@indecon.com" <rdk@indecon.com>, "rrichard@nb.aibn.com"
<rrichard@nb.aibn.com>,
"sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com" <sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com>,
"margot.cragg@umnb.ca" <margot.cragg@umnb.ca>,
"jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com" <jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com>,
"dan.dionne@perth-andover.com"
<dan.dionne@perth-andover.com>, "pierreroy@edmundston.ca"
<pierreroy@edmundston.ca>, "ray.robinson@sjenergy.com"
<ray.robinson@sjenergy.com>,
"sstoll@airdberlis.com" <sstoll@airdberlis.com>,
"pzarnett@bdrenergy.com" <pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>,
"leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca" <leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca>
Cc: NBEUB/CESPNB <general@nbeub.ca>

Good afternoon,

The Public Intervener will be participating in this matter.


Richard A. Williams, Q.C.
Public Intervener for the Energy Sector / l'intervenant public dans le
secteur énergétique
Office of the Public Intervener / Bureau d'intervenant public

(506) 440-8915
richard.williams@gnb.ca

https://www.apec-econ.ca/events/view/?event.id=36&site.page.id=60006

Outlook 2011 Agenda - Charlottetown, PEI
November 5, 2010 - Delta Prince Edward
7:45 am         Registration, Networking & Continental Breakfast
Breakfast sponsored by Holland College
8:30 am         Welcome & Opening Remarks
Ronald Keefe, APEC Chair (President & CEO, BioVectra Inc.)
8:40 am Keynote Address
Bill Marshall, President, WKM ENERGY Consultants Inc.
Currently President of WKM Energy Consultants, Mr. Marshall has over
30 years experience in the electricity industry and was President and
CEO of the New Brunswick Systems Operator until 2008. Mr. Marshall
will explain the potential benefits of greater integration in Atlantic
Canada’s electricity grid and the issues that must be addressed to
achieve these benefits.
9:10 am         

Economists’ Panel: Atlantic Canada’s Economic Outlook
David Chaundy, Senior Economist, APEC
Fred Bergman, Senior Policy Analyst, APEC
Patrick Brannon, Research Analyst, APEC

Panel Moderator: Cheryl Paynter, APEC Governor (VP Finance & Director
of Hotel Operations, D.P. Murphy)
10:10 am        Networking Break
10:35 am       
Industry Panel
Industry panel sponsored by McInnes Cooper
Fred O’Brien, President & CEO, Maritime Electric Company, Ltd.
David Godkin, General Manager, PEI Energy Systems
Ron Clow, Senior Vice President, Cavendish Group

Panel Moderator: Elizabeth Beale, President & CEO, APEC
11:35 am       
President’s Address: Atlantic Canada's Common Energy Future
Elizabeth Beale,President & CEO, APEC

David Chaundy - Chief Executive Officer
President & CEO
APEC
David Chaundy
David Chaundy is President and CEO of the Atlantic Provinces Economic
Council (APEC), a role he was appointed to in November 2018. Mr.
Chaundy joined APEC as an economist in 1999, taking on increasingly
senior roles, including responsibilities for APECs research projects,
its member-only publications on Atlantic Canadas economy, and APECs
annual business Outlook conference. Mr. Chaundy has over twenty years
experience researching Atlantic Canadas economy, sharing his insights
and ideas in numerous publications and presentations to business,
government and other stakeholders. As someone who lives and works in
the region, he is keen to ensure a healthy, inclusive and sustainable
Atlantic Canadian economy. And he is passionate about APECs vital role
as the source for independent research, insights and ideas to advance
these outcomes. Mr. Chaundy is a member of the Canadian Statistics
Advisory Council and the National Stakeholder Advisory Panel for the
Labour Market Information Council. He is Vice-President of the
Canadian Association for Business Economics, a Director and
Past-President of the Atlantic Association of Applied Economists and a
Director of the Atlantic Canada Economics Association. He holds a B.A.
in economics from the University of Cambridge and a M.Sc. in economics
from the University of York, England.

Craig Alexander
Chief Economist and Executive Advisor
Deloitte Management Services LP
Craig Alexander
Craig Alexander is the first Chief Economist at Deloitte Canada. Craig
has over 20 years of experience in the private sector as a senior
executive and leading economist in applied economics, forecasting and
public policy. He has previously held positions as Chief Economist at
TD Bank Financial Group and Vice President Economic Analysis at C.D.
Howe Institute. Most recently, Craig served as Senior Vice-President
and Chief Economist at The Conference Board of Canada, producing
macroeconomic forecasts for the Canadian national economy as well as
provinces, territories, cities and industries. Craig is a passionate
public speaker on economic and public policy issues. Craig holds a
graduate degree in Economics from the University of Toronto


David Chaundy
President & CEO
david.chaundy@apec-econ.ca
902 422 6516 Ext. 228

    5121 Sackville St. Suite 500
    Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1K1
    Phone:   (902) 422-6516
    Email: info@apec-econ.ca

Deja Vu Anyone???

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:55:52 -0300
Subject: The CBC talking to ethical "Independent" think tanks??? Yea right
To: fred.bergman@apec-econ.ca, "terry.seguin" <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>,
atlantic.director@taxpayer.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, occupyfredericton
<occupyfredericton@gmail.com>, "mckeen.randy" <mckeen.randy@gmail.com>

APEC just another tool of Banksters and politicians and their lawyers
and beancounters

http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2012/09/18/nb-economic-outlook/

http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/harper-and-bankers.html

http://www.apec-econ.ca/about/patron-members/

http://www.apec-econ.ca/about/board/

Fred Bergman
Tel: (902) 422-6516 Ext. 235
Email: fred.bergman@apec-econ.ca


http://lancasterhouse.com/bios/show/id/1499

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:44:58 -0300
Subject: CBC talking about the leaders of Occupy??? Now that is truly funny EH?
To: althia.raj@huffingtonpost.com, "greg.weston" <greg.weston@cbc.ca>,
"david.akin" <david.akin@sunmedia.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Althia Raj ‏ @althiaraj
Ottawa Bureau Chief, The Huffington Post Canada
althia.raj@huffingtonpost.com; 613-762-8305
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca @huffpostcanada


http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/09/14/occupy-anniversary-my-cbc-interview-the-long-version/

We all know when I introduced myself to Bill Csapo the spokesperson of
Occupy Wall
St crowd camped on your company's turf in the Big Apple EH Franky Boy
McKenna???


Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:22:00 -0300 to be exact Correct?

http://www.nycga.net/members/davidraymondamos/

From: David Amos
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:32:30 -0400
Subject: Andre meet Bill Csapo of Occupy Wall St He is a decent fellow
who can be reached at (516) 708-4777 Perhaps you two should talk ASAP
To: wcsapo
Cc: occupyfredericton


On 1/12/12, David Amos wrote:
> Franky Boy McKenna oversees this park in the Big Apple and the
> Attorney General of New Brunswick admitted long ago i had issues with
> McKenna and his bankster associates.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bod5_Yvhd4k
>
> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/
>
> From: David Amos
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:22:00 -0300
> Subject: i just called from 902 800 0369 (Nova Scotia)
> To: 9.17occupywallstreet@gmail.com
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html
>
> I am the guy the SEC would not name that is the link to Madoff and
> Putnam Investments
>
> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>
> Notice the transcript and webcast of the hearing of the US Senate
> banking Commitee is missing? please notice Eliot Spitzer and the Dates
> around November 20th, 2003 in te following file
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>
> From: ”Julian Assange)”
> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:15:46 +0000 (GMT)
> Subject: Al Jazeera on Iceland’s plan for a press safe haven
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> FYI: Al-Jazeera’s take on Iceland’s proposed media safe haven
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbGiPjIE1pE
>
> More info http://immi.is/
>
> Julian Assange
> Editor
> WikiLeaks
> http://wikileaks.org/
>
>
> From: Birgitta Jonsdottir
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 07:14:02 +0000
> Subject: Re: Bon Soir Birgitta according to my records this is the
> first email I ever sent you
> To: David Amos
>
> dear Dave
> i have got your email and will read through the links as soon as i
> find some time
> keep up the good fight in the meantime
>
> thank you for bearing with me
> i am literary drowning in requests to look into all sorts of matters
> and at the same time working 150% work at the parliament and
> the creation of a political movement and being a responsible parent:)
> plus all the matters in relation to immi
>
> with oceans of joy
> birgitta
>
> Better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
>
> Andre Gide
>
> Birgitta Jonsdottir
> Birkimelur 8, 107 Reykjavik, Iceland, tel: 354 692 8884
> http://this.is/birgittahttp://joyb.blogspot.com -
> http://www.facebook.com/birgitta.jonsdottir
>
>
>>> >> On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:35 AM, David Amos wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I truly enjoyed talking to you. More to the point I am happy you
>>> >>> took
>>> >>> the time to listen to mean old me. I was impressed with your openess
>>> >>> and honesty. In return I took a bit of time to study you more
>>> >>> closely
>>> >>> on the Internet and I am now even more impressed to view the artist
>>> >>> in
>>> >>> you. To hell with the politics and the money for a minute. At the
>>> >>> risk of sounding odd your sincere soul that I sensed in your voice
>>> >>> came shining through the various webpages. An honest person
>>> >>> practicing
>>> >>> the wicked art of politicking is a rare thing indeed. I must confess
>>> >>> that I grinned at the possibility of crossing paths with another
>>> >>> kindred soul when I saw you employ the expression Me Myself and I
>>> >>> because I often use that expresssion
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I also sent you another email to your politcal email address on June
>>> >>> 24th, 2010 right after you spoke on CBC. (I can resend it if you
>>> >>> wish)
>>> >>> When you folks ignored that and my calls and only sent me nasty
>>> >>> responses I gave up on Iceland and IMMI because I had made everyone
>>> >>> well aware I had no respect for Assange and corrupt parliamentarians
>>> >>> whatsoever. Assange became the big celebrity after releasing the
>>> >>> video
>>> >>> from Iraq but I felt sorry for the kid who went to jail that had
>>> >>> given
>>> >>> him the stuff. Obviously I sent you folks the email below long
>>> >>> before
>>> >>> Assange made the scene in Iceland. Rest assured that I sent him
>>> >>> evidence of my concerns about Iceland or he would not had sent me
>>> >>> his
>>> >>> bragging emails the following March.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Now that Assange is in jail with no hope of bail like I was a couple
>>> >>> of times after CBC has been yapping about him for weeks I was
>>> >>> feeling
>>> >>> a little vindictive so I opted to tease some of his friends and fans
>>> >>> (such as McCarthy and CBC) by reminding them that I was still alive,
>>> >>> not in jail and kicking like hell. (A host of cops in seven cars
>>> >>> pounced on my son (who was visiting me) and I at 2;30 in the morning
>>> >>> right after the results of the recent election was annnounced
>>> >>> Although
>>> >>> I managed to run them off this time need I say it really pissed me
>>> >>> off
>>> >>> and saddend me to put him on a bus back to Boston)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I did not send you that email with the pdf files attached from my
>>> >>> new
>>> >>> Yahoo address but you will get it in a bit. Heres hoping you will
>>> >>> enjoy it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best Regards
>>> >>> Dave
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> >>> From: David Amos
>>> >>> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:33:10 -0300
>>> >>> Subject: RE: Iceland and Bankers Whereas the politicians ignore me
>>> >>> maybe some fellow bloggers will listen to me eh?
>>> >>> To: jong@althingi.is, kristjanj@althingi.is, olofn@althingi.is,
>>> >>> petur@althingi.is, rea@althingi.is, ragnheidurr@althingi.is,
>>> >>> sdg@althingi.is, sij@althingi.is, siv@althingi.is,
>>> >>> tryggvih@althingi.is, ubk@althingi.is, vigdish@althingi.is,
>>> >>> thkg@althingi.is, thorsaari@althingi.is
>>> >>> Cc: margrett@althingi.is, thorgerdur@thorgerdur.is,
>>> >>> saari@centrum.is,
>>> >>> ha030002@unak.is, svanurmd@hotmail.com, baddiblue@gmail.com,
>>> >>> dominus@islandia.is, birgitta@this.is, einar@smart.is
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> >>> From: David Amos
>>> >>> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:23:15 -0300
>>> >>> Subject: Fwd: You mentioned Iceland and Bankers just now and I
>>> >>> smiled
>>> >>> To: johanna@althingi.is
>>> >>> Cc: ”Jacques.Poitras” , Dan Fitzgerald
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> >>> From: David Amos
>>> >>> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:52:42 -0300
>>> >>> Subject: You mentioned Iceland and Bankers just now and I smiled
>>> >>> To: wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, lenbracken@hotmail.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> >>>> From: David Amos
>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:24:42 -0300
>>> >>>> Subject: Fwd: RE: Iceland and Bankers etc I must ask the obvious
>>> >>>> question. Why have you people ignored me for three years?
>>> >>>> To: vasilescua@sec.gov, friedmani@sec.gov, krishnamurthyp@sec.gov,
>>> >>>> horwitzd@dsmo.com, wrobleskin@dsmo.com,
>>> >>>> wolfem@dicksteinshapiro.com,
>>> >>>> Lisa.Baroni@usdoj.gov, ssbny@aol.com, service@ssbla.com,
>>> >>>> rwing@lswlaw.com, rriccio@mdmc-law.com, lmodugno@mdmc-law.com,
>>> >>>> griffinger@gibbonslaw.com, mmulholland@rmfpc.com,
>>> >>>> kmalerba@rmfpc.com,
>>> >>>> tlieverman@srkw-law.com
>>> >>>> Cc: webo , John.Sinclair@nbimc.com,
>>> >>>> Norma.Kennedy@nbimc.com, jan.imeson@nbimc.com, mc.blais@pcnb.org
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I wonder if any lawyer will bother to read this email, understand
>>> >>>> it
>>> >>>> and call me back
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> >>>> From: postur@fjr.stjr.is
>>> >>>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:06:39 +0000
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: RE: Iceland and Bankers etc I must ask the obvious
>>> >>>> question. Why have you people ignored me for three years?
>>> >>>> To: David Amos
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dear David Amos
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Unfortunately there has been a considerable delay in responding to
>>> >>>> incoming letters due to heavy workload and many inquiries to our
>>> office.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We appreciate the issue raised in your letter. We have set up a web
>>> site
>>> >>>> http://www.iceland.org where we have gathered various practical
>>> >>>> information
>>> >>>> regarding the economic crisis in Iceland.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Greetings from the Ministry of Finance.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tilvísun í mál: FJR08100024
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Frá: David Amos
>>> >>>> Dags: 29.01.2009 19:17:43
>>> >>>> Til: johanna.sigurdardottir@fel.stjr.is, postur@for.stjr.is,
>>> aih@cbc.ca,
>>> >>>> Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is,
>>> >>>> rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca,
>>> >>>> marie@mariemorneau.com, dfranklin@franklinlegal.com,
>>> egilla@althingi.is,
>>> >>>> william.turner@exsultate.ca, klm@althingi.is, mail@fjr.stjr.is,
>>> >>>> Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca, wendy.williams@landsbanki.is,
>>> cdhowe@cdhowe.org,
>>> >>>> desparois.sylviane@fcac.gc.ca, plee@stu.ca, ”oldmaison@yahoo.com
>>> >>>> , ”t.j.burke@gnb.ca” , Dan
>>> >>>> Fitzgerald , jonina.s.larusdottir@ivr.stjr.is
>>> >>>> Afrit: fyrirspurn@fme.is, audur@audur.is, fme@fme.is,
>>> >>>> info@landsbanki.is, sedlabanki@sedlabanki.is, tif@tif.is
>>> >>>> Efni: RE: Iceland and Bankers etc I must ask the obvious question.
>>> >>>> Why
>>> >>>> have you people ignored me for three years?
>>> >>>> ———————————————————
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> FYI Some folks in Canada are watching your actions or lack thereof
>>> >>>> more closely than others. As you well know I am one.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.topix.com/forum/world/canada/TJHJ5HP501LN7C4MV#lastPost
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/4304560/Speaker-Iceland-etc
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2006/05/harper-and-bankers.html
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> You folks should not deny certain responses that I have received
>>> >>>> over
>>> >>>> the course of the last few months from your country CORRECT?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> From: David Amos
>>> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 13:57:55 -0300
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Regarding your enquiry to the Prime Ministry of
>>> >>>> Iceland
>>> >>>> To: postur@for.stjr.is
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanx
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 10/8/08, postur@for.stjr.is wrote:
>>> >>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Your enquiry has been received by the Prime Ministry of Iceland and
>>> >>>> waits
>>> >>>> attendance.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thank you.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> From: Fjármálaeftirlitið – Fyrirspurn
>>> >>>> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:23:41 -0000
>>> >>>> Subject: Staðfesting á móttöku
>>> >>>> To: David Amos
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Fjármálaeftirlitið hefur móttekið erindi yðar. Erindinu verður
>>> >>>> svarað
>>> >>>> við fyrsta tækifæri. Vakin er athygli á heimasíðu
>>> >>>> Fjármálaeftirlitsins, http://www.fme.is. Þar má finna ýmsar
>>> >>>> upplýsingar ásamt svörum við algengum spurningum:
>>> >>>> http://www.fme.is/?PageID=863.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The Financial Supervisory Authority (FME) of Iceland confirms the
>>> >>>> receipt of your e-mail. Your e-mail will be answered as soon as
>>> >>>> possible. We would like to point out our website,
>>> >>>> http://www.fme.is.
>>> >>>> There you can find information and answeres to frequently asked
>>> >>>> questions: http://www.fme.is/?PageID=864.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kveðja / Best Regards
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Fjármálaeftirlitið / Financial Supervisory Authority, Iceland
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Sími / Tel.: (+354) 525 2700
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> From: David Amos
>>> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:53:47 -0300
>>> >>>> Subject: I just called to remind the Speaker, the Bankers and the
>>> >>>> Icelanders that I still exist EH Mrs Mrechant, Bob Rae and Iggy?
>>> >>>> To: Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is,
>>> >>>> rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca,
>>> >>>> marie@mariemorneau.com, dfranklin@franklinlegal.com,
>>> >>>> egilla@althingi.is, william.turner@exsultate.ca
>>> >>>> Cc: Rae.B@parl.gc.ca, Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca,
>>> >>>> lebrem@sen.parl.gc.ca,
>>> >>>> merchp@sen.parl.gc.ca, coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca, olived@sen.parl.gc.ca
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> All of you should review the documents and CD that came with this
>>> >>>> letter ASAP EH?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/4304560/Speaker-Iceland-etc
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/5352095/Tony-Merchant-and-Yankees
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Perhaps Geir Haarde and Steingrimur Sigfusson should call me at 506
>>> 756
>>> >>>> 8687
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> >>>> David Raymond Amos



https://www.appro.org/conference2009/speakers-4.html


Bill Marshall
P. Eng.
He holds bachelors degrees in Engineering and Education and a Master’s
degree in Power Systems Engineering.  He retired as President and CEO
of New Brunswick System Operator (NBSO) in 2008 where he set up the
original organization and positioned it to become the central
transmission organization and Reliability Coordinator of the Maritimes
Area.  He currently is President of WKM Energy Consultants Inc through
which he is/has provided assistance to NB Department of Energy,
Brookfield Renewable Power, Sask Power, Atlantic Canada Opportunities
Agency and Ontario Energy Board.

His career includes 8 years teaching at the secondary and college
level and 30 years in industry.  This has been in consulting and the
electric utility field mainly as a power system planner, corporate
strategist and policy advocate and includes several appearances as an
expert witness before various regulatory tribunals.  He was a member
of the New Brunswick Market Design Committee and has also served on
numerous other provincial, regional, national and international
committees through industry organisations such as NPCC, CIGRE, IEEE,
IRC, CEA and AEWG.

https://studylib.net/doc/12215560/resume


Resume
William K Marshall, P.Eng
Born May 16, 1946, Saint John, New Brunswick
Positions
President, WKM Energy Consultants Inc since July 1, 2008
President and CEO, New Brunswick Sy
stem Operator, Oct 2004 – June 2008
Director - Strategic Planning, NB Power Corporation, 1996-2004
Manager - Power Supply Planning, NB Power Corporation, 1991-1996
Senior Engineer – Power Supply Planning, NB Power Corporation, 1983-1991
Address
653 Aberdeen St
Fredericton, NB, E3B 1S6
(506) 454-8230 (Phone)
(506) 470-9171 (Cell)
Bill.Marshall@rogers.com
Bill.Marshall653@gmail.com
Education
BSc (Electrical Engineering) from
University of New Brunswick in 1968
BEd (High School & Post-Secondary) from
 Mount Allison University in 1971
MScE (Power Systems) from Univ
ersity of New Brunswick in 1972
Several courses in Accounting and Finance, UNB, 1978-1983
Work Experience
Eight (8) years as a professional educat
or at the high school, community college
and university levels.
Five
 (
5
) years as a private engineering consul
tant with work related to energy
policy development,  computer systems
,
 educational services
 and power
systems planning, tariffs and market issues
.
Twenty eight (28) years as a professional
 engineer in the electric utility industry
with NB Power Corporation (24 yrs) and
with New Brunswick System Operator (4
yrs) with responsibilities involving:
ƒ
    power system analysis, planning and development
ƒ
    integrated resource planning and procurement,
ƒ
    electricity market rules and operations,
ƒ
    environmental strategies and compliance,
ƒ
    reliability standards development
, enforcement and compliance,
ƒ
    energy policy development,
ƒ
    electric industry restructuring and deregulation,
ƒ
    corporate business unit restructuring and management,
ƒ
    cost of service and industrial interruptible rate design,
ƒ
    transmission tariffs and ancillary services rate design,
ƒ
    regulatory    approvals
 of tariffs, rates and policies
,
ƒ
    renewable energy procurement
and wind power integration,
ƒ
financial forecasting and budgeting
,
ƒ
end use load control and “smart grid” evolution.
Supprimé :
Four
Supprimé :
4
Supprimé :
power systems,
Supprimé :
 and
Supprimé :
.
Related Experience
Memberships and participation in various committees, work groups and task
forces at the company, provincial, regi
onal, national and international levels as
follows:
ƒ
    Province of New Brunswick
ƒ
    Energy Policy Committee
ƒ
    Electricity Market Design Committee
ƒ
    East Coast Regional Transmission Organization Development Group
ƒ
    Government of Canada
ƒ
    Forecast Working Group of Climate Change Task Group
ƒ
    Inter Provincial Electricity Trade Working Group
ƒ
    Northeast Power Coordinating Council (NPCC)
ƒ
    Load and Capacity Task Force
ƒ
    Capacity Planning Work Group 5 – Interconnection Reliability
ƒ
    Reliability Coordination Committee
ƒ
    Maritime Provinces Utility Planning Committee and  the Atlantic
Electricity Working Group
ƒ
    Canadian Electricity Association (CEA)
ƒ
    Operations and Reliability Section
ƒ
    Climate Change Steering Committee
ƒ
    Fossil Utilities Climate Change Work Group
ƒ
    CIDA sponsored Bhutan Project adm
inistered through University of
New Brunswick
ƒ
    CIGRE Task Force 38-03-10 on Compos
ite Reliability (Co chairman)
Participation as a witness before heari
ngs of various administrative boards and
government committees including
ƒ
    Crown    Corporation    Committ
ee of the NB Legislature
ƒ
    Select Committee on Energy of the NB Legislature
ƒ
    Select Committee on Wood Supply of the NB Legislature
ƒ
    Board of Commissioners of Public
Utilities of New Brunswick (PUB)
ƒ
    Energy and Utilities Board of New Brunswick (EUB)
ƒ
    National Energy Board of Canada
ƒ
    Régie de l’énergie of Québec
ƒ
    Maine Public Utilities Commission
Writing and presentation of various
technical papers, courses and seminars
before various groups including
ƒ
    Institute of Electrical
and Electronic Engineers (IEEE)
ƒ
    Canadian Electricity Association (CEA)
ƒ
    Canadian Nuclear Association (CAN)
ƒ
    Canadian Pulp and Paper Institute (CPPI)
ƒ
    Atlantic Power Summit
ƒ
    Atlantic Energy Conference
ƒ
    Québec Electricity Forum
Supprimé :
n expert
ƒ
    Ontario Power Symposium
ƒ
    Northeast Power Coordinating Council (NPCC)
ƒ
    Canadian Association -  Members of
Public Utility Tribunals (CAMPUT)
ƒ
    Association of Professional Engi
neers of New Brunswick (APENB)
ƒ
    Committee internationale de grande reseau electric (CIGRE)
ƒ
    Point Lepreau Operator Training Program
ƒ
    ClickSoftware Global Utility Summit
ƒ
    International T&D Summit
ƒ
St Thomas University Public Fo
rum on NB Power/Hydro-Quebec Deal
ƒ
University of New Brunswick Public
 Forum on Future of NB Power
ƒ
Atlantic Renewable Energy Conference
ƒ
Canadian Wind Energy Associatio
n Atlantic Caucus Conference
Experience specifically related to TransEne
rgie’s Transmission Tariff application
While at NB Power:
ƒ
    Integrated Resource Planning Studies
for NB Power in 1991, 1995 and 2001 that
included distribution, transmis
sion and end use demand side management
(DSM) resources as well as conv
entional generation supply resources
 that
included distribution, transmis
sion and end use demand side management
(DSM) resources as well as conv
entional generation supply resources
ƒ
    Economic evaluations of major transmission projects including the NB-HQ
Madawaska HVDC interconnection, the
NB-NE second 345 kV interconnection
and various projects internal to NB
ƒ
    Participation on NB policy committees
 since 1996 regarding utility and market
restructuring, open non discriminator
y transmission access and reciprocity
requirements of FERC Order 888 that l
ead to NB White Paper Energy Policy
(2001), NB Open Access Transmission Ta
riff (2003), NB Electricity Act (2003)
and NB Market Rules (2004)
ƒ
    Interventions regarding HQ TransEnergi
e’s OATT Application to the Régie de
l’énergie of Québec (2001)
ƒ
Lead witness before PUB for approval of NB OATT (2002-2003)
While with New Brunswick System Operator (2004-2008):
ƒ
    Administration of the NB Open Access Transmission Tariff (NB OATT)
ƒ
    Direction of wind power integration
studies and regional transmission studies
ƒ
    Negotiation of Coordination Agr
eements with NSPI and ISO-NE, etc
ƒ
    Implementation of NBSO as Reliabili
ty Coordinator of the Maritimes Area
ƒ
    Administration, approval and complianc
e of NERC standards and NPCC criteria
ƒ
    Proposed modifications to the NB OA
TT regarding FERC Order 890 and Market
Advisory Committee recommendations
ƒ
Development of transmission planning st
andards, consultations and procedures
ƒ
Initiation of “Smart grid” project for
water heater control with UNB and SJEnergy
As an independent consultant (2008-2009):
ƒ
    Witness before EUB for amendments to NB OATT
ƒ
    Completion of a discussion paper for NB Energy in 2008 outlining a
sustainable
energy development strategy for the
Atlantic region involving transmission
expansion and new hydro, nuclear and large scale wind generation.
ƒ
    Extensive stakeholder consultation for NB
 Energy regarding the NB Electricity
market and the structure of NB
Power
ƒ
Report to a western Canadian utility r
egarding the transmission and operational
challenges of integrating a large nuclear
 station into the western power grid
ƒ
Assist Ontario Energy Board in developm
ent of filing guidelines forTransmission
and Distribution planning
ƒ
Assist the NB government
in the analysis, negotiation
and implementation of the
proposed sale of NB Power to Hydro Quebec
ƒ
Advisory consultant to the Govern
ment of Canada (through Atlantic Canada
Opportunities Agency and Natural Resources Canada) for power systems
studies under the Atlantic Energy Gateway project.
ƒ
Negotiating consultant to assist the Pr
ince Edward Island Energy Corporation
procure long term power supply offers
 from different regional suppliers
 
 
 
 
David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

5555555 YO Higgy Methinks Peter Hyslop can never deny that folks need an ethical lawyer to act as our Public Intervener N'esy Pas Lori Clark???

David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 5:40 PM
To: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Bcc: myson333 <myson333@yahoo.com>
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2022 21:11:47 -0300
Subject: YO Higgy Methinks Peter Hyslop can never deny that folks need
an ethical lawyer to act as our Public Intervener N'esy Pas Lori
Clark???
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<mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>,
"Ross.Wetmore" <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, "Mitchell, Kathleen"
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Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, lclark@nbpower.com,
"colleen.dentremont" <colleen.dentremont@atlanticaenergy.org>,
peter@langdonlaw.ca

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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 15:56:30 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Matter 529 - NB Power Rate Design and the
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:18:46 -0400
Subject: Attn Lori Clark Why do yo keep asking Roger Richard if I will
be attending the EUB hearing?
To: lclark@nbpower.com, colleen.dentremont@atlanticaenergy.org
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Obviously I am not there today nor am I coming so the Saint John cops
can quit hanging around the meeting rooms at the Delta looking for me
and do something important like catching crooks  If you wish to speak
to me I have no doubt that Colleen Dentremont saved my cell number
after she finally called me back last week



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:50:46 -0300
Subject: YO Higgy Methinks Methinks Mr Jones of the CBC can never
claim that i am not a man of my word N'esy Pas Petey Baby MacKay and
Franky Boy McKenna ???
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https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/mandatory-mask-order-may-or-may-not-be.html

Friday, 2 October 2020
Mandatory mask order may — or may not — be coming by Oct. 8, says Higgs



 https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies



David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks the secretive Oral decision of the EUB today about the
raising of NB Power Rates should make all ethical folks opposed to
Higgy's Police State sit and pay attention N'esy Pas?

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/mandatory-mask-order-may-or-may-not-be.html

#cdnpoli #nbpoli

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-mandatory-masks-in-place-mid-october-1.5747584



https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/harsh-words-disallowed-expenses-greet.html


Friday, 2 October 2020
Harsh words, disallowed expenses greet NB Power in rate increase decision

 https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
Surprise Surprise Surprise
Content disabled
Methinks you should review my comment earlier today about the EUB
before the truth was finally revealed N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/harsh-words-disallowed-expenses-greet.html

#cdnpoli #nbpoli

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-approval-eub-1.5749148


Harsh words, disallowed expenses greet NB Power in rate increase decision
‘The utility must stop overspending,’ Energy and Utilities Board says

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Oct 02, 2020 8:44 PM AT


NB Power has been told by its regulator, the Energy and Utilities
Board, it is not doing enough to control costs or reduce debt.
(Radio-Canada)

New Brunswick's Energy and Utilities Board has finally approved part
of NB Power's year-old request for a rate increase but not before
stripping out $1.4 million in expenses it called unjustified and
chastising the utility for not controlling its costs.

"The utility must stop overspending on items … that are within its
control," wrote the board.

"It does not appear there has been any meaningful changes taken by NB
Power in its approach to control costs or reduce debt. Only modest
improvements have been seen on debt repayment."

In the decision released Friday, the EUB ordered NB Power's to
recalculate its rate request after subtracting disallowed portions.
That will likely lead to a 1.85 per cent power rate increase to
customers, although potentially not until next spring.

"With these changes, NB Power is directed to provide the Board, for
review, its calculation for a revised rate increase across all
customer classes," wrote the Board in its 21-page decision.

NB Power originally applied to the EUB for a two per cent rate hike
one year ago on Oct. 2, 2019. It was hoping to have the increase
approved and in place for April 1, 2020.

Hearings were conducted last February, but on March 19, with a ruling
imminent, the utility requested an indefinite suspension of the
application in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Energy and Utilities Board acting chairperson Francois Beaulieu led a
three-person panel reviewing NB Power's request for a rate increase
back in February. The decision finally came on Friday. (CBC)

"Many businesses are closed or at reduced operation for an unknown
time frame and many employees of those businesses have been affected
as a result," said then NB Power president Gaëtan Thomas in a letter
to the EUB.

"NB Power has concluded that a rate increase implemented on April 1,
2020, would be counterproductive."

In August, NB Power finally asked the EUB to issue its decision but
requested whatever increase it approved to be moved to March 31, 2021,
to minimize disruption to the economy.

The EUB has not yet ruled on that request.

    NB Power's rate hike plan for April 1 has been caught in pandemic limbo

Although focused mostly on the current rate increase, the EUB also
turned its attention to a string of poor financial results and missed
debt reduction targets posted by NB Power over the last half-decade.

The utility lost $16 million in the last fiscal year, the fifth year
in a row it has missed its own profit target, and the EUB called on
the organization to look internally for solutions.

"NB Power must find a way to stay within its budget and reduce its
costs," wrote the board.

The board did approve most of NB Power's budget request with exception
of $1.1 million in inflated costs for buying electricity from the
Pokeshaw wind farm in northeastern New Brunswick after NB Power
negotiated lower prices than it included in its budget documents.
Maritime Iron study

The EUB also disallowed $300,000 the utility had earmarked to study
the potential of integrating the proposed Maritime Iron development in
Belledune with its nearby coal-fired generating station.

NB Power has since ceased its investigation of how it might help the
Maritime Iron project, and the board said it heard nothing at hearings
to justify the utility charging customers anything to investigate the
feasibility of a development proposed by an outside party.

"This project is speculative. The Board is not satisfied as to the
prudence of this spending," it wrote in its decision.

The disallowance by the EUB of $1.4 million budgeted for those two
items in NB Power's budget was in addition to money NB Power itself
dropped from its request early in proceedings.

At the start of hearings in February, utility executives, including
new president Keith Cronkhite, declared $1.4 million in planned
spending to support a hydrogen-from-seawater partnership with
Florida-based Joi Scientific inappropriate to bill customers for and
withdrew the amount from its budget.

Former NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas, centre, with Joi Scientific
executives Robert Koeneman, left, and Traver Kennedy on a beach in
Cape Canaveral, Fla., promoting the company's hydrogen-from-seawater
research. NB Power's spending on that project and other items is being
deducted from its rate increase. (Joi Scientific)

Those three changes combined total $2.8 million and are all to be
deducted from the original two per cent increase requested by the
utility.

EUB board member John Herron wrote a dissenting opinion, arguing NB
Power should be able to keep the rate increase portions tied to
disallowed expenses to boost its bottom line, but that position was
rejected by EUB acting chairperson Francois Beaulieu and board member
Michael Costello, who made up the balance of the three-person panel.

The EUB will likely rule next week on when the rate increase will take
effect, after NB Power recalculates the amount without the disallowed
expenses.


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6 Comments


David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise


June Arnott
All expense accounts should stop. No travel expenses or executive
trips. Kill all bonuses.

David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks you should review my comment earlier
today about the EUB before the truth was finally revealed N'esy Pas?




Tim Trites
oh well welcome to the worst run jurisdiction in the western world

David Amos
Reply to @Tim Trites: Welcome back to the Circus

Methinks over the course of the next four years it may become commonly
known as Higgy's Police Sate N'esy Pas?


Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Is that all you ever have ? No wonder you didn't
even bother running this time . I doubt you could get 25 signatures on
your nomination papers , let alone 25 votes .


David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks before you spin doctors embarrass Higgy
et al any further you really should check my work within the EUB and
Federal Court N'esy Pas?






 ---------- Original message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:22:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
Minister Mikey Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never
been Good Herron in paricular N'esy Pas???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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From: "Holland, Mike Hon. (DNRED/MRNDE)" <Mike.Holland@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:23:01 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
Minister Mikey Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never
been Good Herron in paricular N'esy Pas???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your email.  Your thoughts, comments and input are
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From: "Quinn, Heather (DNRED/MRNDE)" <Heather.Quinn@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:22:59 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
Minister Mikey Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never
been Good Herron in paricular N'esy Pas???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your message.

I will be out of the office until Monday, October 5th. If your message
is urgent, please contact the following people:

·         David Sollows for matters related to electricity including
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David.Sollows@gnb.ca<mailto:David.Sollows@gnb.ca> or at (506)
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can be reached at Sacha.Patino@gnb.ca<mailto:Sacha.Patino@gnb.ca> or
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Sincerely,
Heather Quinn
_________________________________________________________________
Nous avons bien reçu votre message.

Je serai absente jusqu’au lundi, 5 octobre. S’il s’agit d’un message
urgent, veuillez communiquer avec les personnes suivantes :

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 ---------- Original message ----------
From: "Wilson, Sherry" <Sherry.Wilson@snb.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:22:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
Minister Mikey Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never
been Good Herron in paricular N'esy Pas???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your email.

Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly valued. You can be
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From: "Mitton, Megan (LEG)" <Megan.Mitton@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:23:04 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
Minister Mikey Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never
been Good Herron in paricular N'esy Pas???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for the email, and thank you for your patience as we work to
re-open the office post-election.

This response is to assure you that your message has been received. I
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to the high volume of emails my office receives, I may not be able to
respond personally to each one.


Thank you once again for contacting me.

For media requests, please call : 506-429-2285

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Merci pour le courriel, et merci pour votre patience alors que nous
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Ce courriel a pour but de vous assurer que votre message a bien été
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Merci encore une fois de m'avoir contacté.

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Memramcook - Tantramar

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From: "Perry, Brad" <perry.brad@radioabl.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:23:21 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks I have huge bone to pick
Minister Mikey Holland NB Power their buddie the EUB and Johnny "Never
been Good Herron in paricular N'esy Pas???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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On 10/2/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/7/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)"
>> <Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>
>> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 16:54:11 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Higgy Methinks whereas there is no
>> transcript available that supports the EUB decision about "Not So
>> Smart" Meters folks are entitled to know what my friend Roger Richard
>> before the election N'esy Pas???
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are
>> greatly valued.  You can be assured that all emails and letters are
>> carefully read, reviewed and taken into consideration.
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
>> nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
>> tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
>> considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
>> Merci.
>>
>> Andrea Anderson-Mason, Q.C. / c.r.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
>> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 16:35:06 +0000
>> Subject: RE: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE The Not So Smart Meter Games
>> I trust that your lawyer or Ellen Desmond can explain what the EUB has
>> acknowledged before I take you people to a REAL COURT
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your email to the Energy and Utilities Board.
>>
>>
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>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca; Colleen.Mitchell@AtlanticaEnergy.org;
>> david.sollows@gnb.ca; NbdotCa@hotmail.com; Clark, Lori
>> <LClark@nbpower.com>; Gagnon, Jessica Lynn <JGagnon@nbpower.com>;
>> Desmond, Ellen <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>; anapoleon@synapse-energy.com;
>> bhavumaki@synapse-energy.com; mikemckinley@rogers.com;
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>> pdidomenico@daymarkea.com; rrichard@nb.aibn.com; geoff.flood@t4g.com;
>> sstoll@airdberlis.com; jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com;
>> dan.dionne@perth-andover.com; pierreroy@edmundston.ca;
>> ray.robinson@sjenergy.com; pzarnett@bdrenergy.com; Dominic.Cardy
>> <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>; bruce.northrup <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>;
>> jake.stewart <jake.stewart@gnb.ca>; Jody.Wilson-Raybould
>> <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>; Bill.Morneau
>> <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>; fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca;
>> oldmaison@yahoo.com; ron.tremblay2@gmail.com;
>> aadnc.minister.aandc@canada.ca; andre@jafaust.com; David.Coon
>> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>; elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca; Mitton, Megan (LEG)
>> <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>; Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)
>> <kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>; Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca;
>> Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca; dan. bussieres <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>;
>> serge.rousselle <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>; greg.byrne
>> <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>; Jack.Keir <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>; tyler.campbell
>> <tyler.campbell@gnb.ca>; jeff.carr <jeff.carr@gnb.ca>;
>> bob.atwin@nb.aibn.com; jjatwin@gmail.com; markandcaroline
>> <markandcaroline@gmail.com>; sheppardmargo@gmail.com;
>> jordan.gill@cbc.ca; steve.murphy <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>; David.Akin
>> <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>
>> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>; robert.gauvin
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>> <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>; Robert. Jones <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>
>> Subject: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE The Not So Smart Meter Games I
>> trust that your lawyer or Ellen Desmond can explain what the EUB has
>> acknowledged before I take you people to a REAL COURT
>>
>> These are the EUB published words not mine CORRECT?
>>
>> These documents can be sourced from the records of the 375 Matter
>>
>> http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560
>>
>> 02/07/2018    Hearing - Day 1 / Audience - 1ier jour
>>
>> Page 295
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. So there is the two interveners or two
>> participants in the proceeding that have no legal  counsel. One is Mr.
>> Richard and the other one is Mr. Bourque. So I just want to provide --
>> yes, Mr. Rouse?
>>
>> MR. ROUSE: I guess I don't have legal counsel either.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: True. So you are -- NCFS doesn't have legal counsel?
>>
>> MR. ROUSE: That's correct.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So I will address the three of you then. So Mr. Bourque
>> and Mr. Rouse -- I think, Mr. Rouse, you know how the proceeding
>> proceeds. So Mr. Bourque, essentially when it comes and you have a
>> panel, they are subject to cross-examination. And if you do have any
>> questions specifically to the panel, you will be asked to come in
>> front and ask your question to whomever your questions you want to ask
>> to. Now if there is an objection to your questioning I would ask you
>> to stop and at that point what  I will do is I will hear the person
>> who was objecting to your question and afterwards I will hear if you
>> have any other comments to make regarding the objection and we will
>> deal with those -- with the objection as it comes. So do you
>> understand that?
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Yes, I do and thanks for explaining it.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you. Monsieur Richard, essentiellement
>> qu’est ce qui va arriver, pis quoi je mentionnais en anglais, c’est
>> que vous êtes non-représenté par un avocat donc vous – peut-être que
>> vous connaissez pas toute la façon que les procédures fonctionnent.
>> Donc, l’Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick a différent panel qui – qui vont
>> introduire pour – pour – pour contre-interrogatoire, donc si vous avez
>> des questions a demandé aux personnes, donc, vous allez poser vos
>> questions à ces personnes-là. Et puis si y’a une partie qui s’objecte
>> à votre question, j’vous demanderais juste d’arrêter. Et puis quoi ce
>> que la Commission va faire c’est qu’elle va entendre la partie qui
>> s’objecte. Et puis à ce moment-là j’vas vous demandez si vous avez
>> aucun commentaire à regarder l’objection et puis on – on va – on va
>> rendre une décision à ce point-là  relativement à l’objection. Est-ce
>> que vous comprenez  ceci.
>>
>> DR. RICHARD: Oui. Oui, Monsieur Vice-président.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN : Pis je comprends aussi que, Monsieur Richard, que vous
>> êtes un professionnel, donc durant la procédure  vous serez pas ici à
>> tous les jours. J’pense que vous avez  autorisé un Monsieur LeBlanc de
>> – d’être ici à – pour vous  représenter lorsque vous serez dans votre
>> clinique. Je ne  sais pas où votre clinique est, donc ce que je
>> comprends  bien que cette personne-là va vous représentez lorsque vous
>> serez pas disponible.
>>
>> DR. RICHARD : Oui c’est bien ça
>>
>> Page 322
>>
>> CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BOURQUE:
>>
>> Q. - Mr. Murphy, as Chief Financial Officer, do you agree with 13 the
>> accounting of KPMG?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, do I understand the question, do I agree with the
>> accounting of KPMG?
>>
>> Q. - Yes.
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do.
>>
>> Q. - Do you know the account -- the KPMG auditor, and if so who are they?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, I am having a little difficult time 21 hearing up
>> here, did you say the owner or the author?
>>
>> Q. - The auditors, sorry about that.
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do. I know the primary partner on our  particular
>> audit
>> file.
>>
>> Q. - Do you have a name for them?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Our primary audit partner is Jamie O'Neil.
>>
>> Q. - Jamie O'Neil. And I was a bit surprised that when I asked the
>> question earlier and there was -- the audit was not signed and any
>> business I have ever been involved with before, the auditors always
>> came and made the presentation of the audit and this didn't appear to
>> happen. Is there a reason for that?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: So I am not exactly sure of the reference that's being
>> made, but our audit statements are signed every year. As described, we
>> have a very traditional process in terms of the auditors coming in and
>> making a final presentation to the boards of directors. It's at that
>> time that we do sign off on the audited statements  and they are
>> available online for anybody to go in and view them.
>>
>> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you familiar with David Amos and Greg Hickey and
>> their concerns about the payout to pulp mills by the NB Power Large
>> Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase programs and the fact that the
>> U.S. Department of Commerce consider it corporate welfare affecting
>> the American interest and with trade with Canada?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: Mr. Chair, we have been down this road before in previous
>> hearings. Mr. Hickey addressed this in at least one, and if I am not
>> mistaken, two hearings. And I
>> believe where we objected to certain questions of Mr. Hickey in the
>> past like this, the Board concluded that relevant questioning -- that
>> it would be a relevant question to ask questions related to compliance
>> by NB Power with provisions of the Electricity Act and the LIREPP
>> regulation, the renewable regulation, which includes the LIREPP
>> program, but debate about policy, as to whether or not LIREPP is a
>> desirable policy is not a matter for this Board and I think we have
>> had that resolved in previous hearings.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, Mr. Furey is right. We did have -- when
>> Mr. Hickey was here last year, and I think at other hearings, we had
>> that debate and so it's a policy issue. If you have questions
>> regarding LIREPP, regarding compliance, I think you are permitted to
>> ask those questions, but if it's questions regarding policy, regarding
>> the LIREPP program, it's not relevant and it's in the legislation so
>> --
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: I wasn't aware of what took place last year.
>>
>> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you aware of my friend, David Amos and the
>> concerns with the NB Power since 2006?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: I would not say that I am aware of any detailed concerns
>> that Mr. Amos has expressed.
>>
>> Q. - Have you read the filings that NB Power filed into the record of
>> this matter since -- on October 30th of 2017?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Yes, generally I have read all the documents.
>>
>> Q. - Have you read the transcript of the hearing on October 2 31st?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the transcript.
>>
>> Q. - And have you read the emails that Mr. Amos sent since then?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the emails. If there is something in
>> particular that's filed on evidence that you would like to bring up on
>> the screen for me to review, I am happy to review it and answer
>> questions on it, but I have not read the emails.
>>
>> Q. - Ms. Clark, why does NB Power consider the smart meter it  wished
>> to attach to my home a federal matter? If I get  sick, or because of
>> an injury to my home or property, do I  sue the federal or do I sue NB
>> Power?
>>
>> MS. CLARK: So with respect to the smart meters, the AMI installation,
>> we would be complying with all of Health  Canada's Guidelines with
>> respect to the meter installation.
>>
>> Q. - So if there is a problem NB Power is responsible for it or the
>> federal, if you are complying by the federal regulations?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: Mr. Vice-Chair, I don't think that's a fair question to
>> address to this panel.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Is there going to be another panel that can address his
>> question, Mr. Furey?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: Well to be asked to comment in advance on circumstances in
>> which liability might arise, you know, certainly if there is a
>> specific fact circumstance presented, maybe the question could be
>> answered, but this is very broad.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So are you suggesting that if he rephrases  his
>> question that this panel could answer the question?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: I guess I would have to hear the question, but I -- what I
>> am saying is the question as framed is I think impossible to answer.
>> And it's unfair to ask any witness to commit to liability around a
>> question as broad as if something goes wrong.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, can you reframe your question?
>>
>> Q. - Well my -- my concern is the spending of a lot of money for the
>> smart meters. And as we heard earlier this morning, the temperature
>> has a big temp' -- a big effect on the use of power. Well do we need
>> to spend millions of dollars to tell us when the temperature gets
>> colder and that? NB Power knows that. When the temperature goes down,
>> they are going to have to start producing, you know, more power to
>> supply the demand. And I think it's really -- wonder if it's worth
>> sending that. The other thing is I have received some videos off the
>> internet of smart meters where they literally caught the side of the
>> house  on fire. There was pictures of just around the meter and that.
>> So if that happens to my house, who is responsible?
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Panel?
>>
>> MS. CLARK: I will address your question in two parts. The first part
>> of it is with respect to the installation of smart meters or the AMI
>> project. The example that was given would be a perfect reason for NB
>> Power to install advanced metering infrastructure. During the times
>> when the utility or when the province is facing very cold
>> temperatures, having the advanced metering infrastructure in place
>> would allow customers to have more information readily available
>> during the month. So when we are dealing with high bill complaints,
>> like we have been this last month due to the extremely cold
>> temperatures, customers would actually be able to see their usage
>> throughout the month and not be subject to receiving a final bill at
>> the end of the month and being surprised by their consumption because
>> of the cold weather. So this would be a perfect example of why the
>> advanced metering infrastructure would be in the -- it would be in the
>> benefit of our customers.
>> The second piece, I think with reference to the safety of meters, we
>> will be following Measurement Canada safety standards, Health Canada
>> safety standards. All of our meters will be tested. And during the
>> install, we will actually be able to look at customers' premises to
>> see if there are any issues related to safety that we should be
>> addressing at the time. There are specific incidents where there have
>> been some issues with meters being installed, but those are very
>> specific to either the geographical location where they were being
>> installed or the customers' equipment itself. But again when we are
>> actually installing the meters, as we are installing 355,000 meters
>> across the province, we will actually be  able to visually inspect
>> each one of those locations to see if there is any issues with respect
>> to the meter itself or the installation that's on the customers'
>> premises. But it would depend on what exactly it is we find as to how
>> it would be handled.
>>
>> Q. - I got one final question. If a customer decides he doesn't want a
>> smart meter at his place, can he opt out?
>>
>> MS. CLARK: Yes, absolutely. We will have an opt out policy.
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is that all your questions, Mr. 20 Bourque?
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Yes.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you.
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>>
>>
>> 02/09/2018      Hearing - Day 3/ Audience - 3ième jour
>>
>>
>> Page 590
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: That is a pretty broad statement. If you could be a
>> little bit more specific on restrictions you  are referring to.
>>
>> Q. - Well for an example, Mr. Cronkhite, would be the LIREPP program
>> restricts how your generation assets are used. Would you agree with
>> that?
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: The LIREPP program is simply a input of renewable
>> resources into the system. It does not, in my opinion, for the size of
>> the contribution, restrict our operations in any way.
>>
>> Q. - Okay. You have purchase power agreements. Do they mot also
>> dictate or indicate how your generation assets can be used?
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: Certainly we do have power purchase arrangements when
>> energy would be an example where we need to incorporate that wind when
>> it's generated. As a result of that, we do position, so I think maybe
>> Ms. Desmond may be asking this that we do need to position our
>> remaining fleet to accommodate or adjust and follow that wind
>> variation as it operates today. Not unlike that we would have with
>> embedded generation assets, and to a much smaller degree obviously,
>> home generation around solar and different items such as that.
>>
>> Q. - If we were to maximize the benefits of AMI in our smart grid,
>> isn't it also true that we should maximize the use of our generation
>> supply assets that we currently have, and wouldn't that mean
>> revisiting some of these existing constraints?
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: We are always mindful of the existing commitments that
>> we have on our system today. When we look forward with respect to the
>> time frames, and as I mentioned earlier, that this is a managed
>> transition not over five years, but over 15, 20 and 25 years, we are
>> always mindful and that's why we have looked at power purchase
>> arrangements that are coming due in the mid-20s and beyond that we
>> allow the freedom and flexibility for us to make the correct
>> adjustments, as we move towards those particular milestones.
>> With respect to new generation coming on line, that's why we do the
>> modelling, that's why we do sensitivities around various scenarios to
>> ensure that we are optimizing to the best of our ability. One of the
>> foundational items around our Energy Smart NB plan is being able to
>> connect with customers to connect to intermittent generation that we
>> know is coming onto the system in the near term and medium term and
>> having more visibility on that. So that exactly we can optimize our
>> generation fleet more effectively today through visibility on this
>> distributed generation resources so that we can synchronize it much
>> more effectively with the system moving forward.
>>
>> Q. - I wasn't specifically asking about new generation. It really was
>> the existing constraints that you have to work around and deal with in
>> terms of generation dispatch.
>>
>> MS. DESMOND: Okay. I think those are all of our questions  though.
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>> BY THE BOARD:
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Ms. Desmond.  So I think we do have -- as
>> Board members we do have a couple of questions to ask.  So I will
>> start.  I am looking at your current business case that you have
>> before us with your total project contribution of minus $1.3 million.
>> And from the evidence that we have heard the last couple of days, is
>> that you consider this as a breakeven number, and I think that that's
>> what you were telling us, Ms. Clark.
>>         So the normal individual, your rate customer, would you not think
>> that he would not perceive your $1.3 million as a breakeven number?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  I guess in the context in which I was using breakeven is
>> it is an investment rationale document and it's intended to cover the
>> life cycle costs of the program, and those are assumptions and it's
>> hovering very close to zero when you look at it over the life cycle.
>> I think in the last few days of the hearing, we have indicated that
>> it's more than breakeven and would even say that if we were to
>> incorporate the adjustments, and the undertaking we just took from Ms.
>> Desmond to provide the adjustments that were recommended in the
>> Synapse report, we are looking at an investment rationale that is
>> leaning closer to probably $10 million or 8 or $9 million.  And if we
>> were to quantify some of those non-quantifiable benefits and be less
>> conservative in some of the estimates that we put in the investment
>> rationale document, I think we could easily get to a $10 million
>> improvement.
>>         Again, and I know you have heard this before, the intention was
>> to
>> come in as conservative as possible, and know that we had all the
>> potential upside.  In hindsight, perhaps we should have taken a
>> different approach, but I do believe that we can demonstrate that we
>> have a positive investment rationale as well.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So there was discussion around -- and I think it was
>> brought forward by Mr. Bourque and Dr. Richard, all about -- and Ms.
>> Desmond regarding the option of option in and option out.  Have you
>> surveyed your current residential customers to see who will opt in and
>> who will opt out before making $123 million investment?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  Customer engagement is a big part of this project, and
>> we are as concerned as you would be about making that sort of an
>> investment.  So we will be doing, as part of our customer engagement,
>> but part of it is the focus group that we did early on is people don't
>> understand what the smart meter is, so part of it would be around
>> education of what the smart meter is and the benefits it can provide
>> to customers.  So we need to educate our customers first and then
>> allow them to make an informed decision.  So that will be part of the
>> roll-out plan and we will check and adjust along the way.  If there
>> are issues concerning the social engagement or a customer's uptake,
>> you know, this is very similar to what has been done in other
>> jurisdictions and they haven't had those challenges, but if we did, we
>> certainly wouldn't be looking at making an investment of this size
>> without having the customer with us.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Well don't you think, Ms. Clark, that you should
>> have your educational piece before the Board approves $123 million
>> spend?
>>
>> MS. CLARK:  I recognize the challenge.  The commitment the utility
>> would make is, as part of the project itself, we would be doing --
>> undertaking the engagement process with our customers again starting
>> with the education piece.
>>        Assuming that was positive, we would proceed and we are prepared
>> to give the Board updates, as we come forward, either through the general
>> rate application or through any other process including the quarterly
>> updates we are providing at this point in time on our infrastructure, so
>> that
>> can be done and conditional with the approval of the project.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So I am trying to understand the objective of the
>> AMI, and there was discussion, so can -- and I am having a little bit
>> of difficulty understanding what is the objective or objectives that
>> you are trying to do with AMI?
>>
>>
>> Page 601
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN:  I was a bit surprised when I heard this morning and
>> yesterday that you are entering into a contract at the end of February
>> and is that with respect to the purchase of the smart meters?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  That's correct.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So how can you enter into a contract without the
>> firm approval of this Board, if we are going to approve or not the
>> AMI?  How prudent is that?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  So we are at the end stages of the contract in terms of
>> just the final terms and conditions, but we have been very clear that
>> we -- with the vendor -- and they recognize that, because we also have
>> Nova Scotia Power, who is part of our consortium, who also needs Board
>> approval.  So should we not get -- this is conditional on EUB
>> approval.  So should we not get EUB approval, the contract would not
>> proceed.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Now there was discussion yesterday, I think it was
>> with Mr. Stoll regarding time of use and time based pricing, and so I
>> went through the evidence this morning, and in your main evidence, and
>> I think one of the objective of having the AMI going forward to a time
>> of use price structure -- rate structure.  So am I understanding that
>> correctly?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  That is correct.  And in the evidence, we did answer an
>> interrogatory on that and you will see that AMI is an enabler for time
>> varying rates in the Energy Smart NB Plan.  And we did have time
>> varying rates included in our investment rationale.  We took it out,
>> because we couldn't -- we couldn't pinpoint without more detail as to
>> what those time varying rates may be and the benefit of those, so we
>> took them out of the investment rationale at this point in time, but
>> certainly it's something that we are looking at in the future.
>>
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So the fundamental question here is that the Board
>> should heard -- or hear Matter 357 before approving the AMI?  So if we
>> don't approve time of use, that basically what will happen with your
>> AMI, I mean it's -- if we don't approve the time of use, which we are
>> going to hear next year, how can we proceed in approving the AMI
>> before we look at the rate structure?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  As we have talked about in our investment rationale,
>> there are a number of other benefits to both the customer and to the
>> utility over and above time varying rates that we believe are
>> important for the utility and for the movement forward of our Energy
>> Smart New Brunswick plan.  Many of those benefits accrue to the
>> customer.  And many of those benefits accrue to the utility and
>> ultimately the customer.  So even if we were not to move in the
>> direction of time varying rates, we believe that the investment
>> rationale supports the AMI installation based on the other investment
>> -- or based on the other benefits that it provides.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
>> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 11:00:12 +0000
>> Subject: RE: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE EUB Matter 452 and NB
>> Power's VERY sneaky Application for Approval of an Advanced Metering
>> Infrastructure Capital Project
>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your email to the Energy and Utilities Board.
>>
>>
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>> Sent: August 6, 2020 2:12 AM
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>> kris.austin <kris.austin@gnb.ca>; rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca;
>> michelle.conroy@gnb.ca; briangallant10 <briangallant10@gmail.com>;
>> Davidc.Coon <Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>; louis-philippe.gauthier@cfib.ca;
>> david.russell@gnb.ca; Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com;
>> Paul.Volpe@libertyutilities.com; dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com;
>> Hoyt, Len <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>;
>> jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com; rzarumba@ceadvisors.com;
>> gerald@kissnb.com; cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com;
>> hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com; lcozzarini@nbpower.com;
>> jfurey@nbpower.com; srussell@nbpower.com; wharrison@nbpower.com;
>> NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com; SWaycott@nbpower.com;
>> bcrawford@nbpower.com; George.Porter@nbpower.com; NBEUB/CESPNB
>> <General@nbeub.ca>; Dickie, Michael <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>; Lawton,
>> John <John.Lawton@nbeub.ca>; Young, Dave <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>;
>> Ahmad.Faruqui@brattle.com; Cecile.Bourbonnais@brattle.com;
>> leducjr@nb.sympatico.ca; Colleen.Mitchell@AtlanticaEnergy.org;
>> david.sollows@gnb.ca; NbdotCa@hotmail.com; Clark, Lori
>> <LClark@nbpower.com>; Gagnon, Jessica Lynn <JGagnon@nbpower.com>;
>> Desmond, Ellen <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>; anapoleon@synapse-energy.com;
>> bhavumaki@synapse-energy.com; mikemckinley@rogers.com;
>> heather.black@gnb.ca; kkelly@daymarkea.com; jathas@daymarkea.com;
>> pdidomenico@daymarkea.com; rrichard@nb.aibn.com; geoff.flood@t4g.com;
>> sstoll@airdberlis.com; jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com;
>> dan.dionne@perth-andover.com; pierreroy@edmundston.ca;
>> ray.robinson@sjenergy.com; pzarnett@bdrenergy.com; Dominic.Cardy
>> <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>; bruce.northrup <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>;
>> jake.stewart <jake.stewart@gnb.ca>; Jody.Wilson-Raybould
>> <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>; Bill.Morneau
>> <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>; fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca;
>> oldmaison@yahoo.com; ron.tremblay2@gmail.com;
>> aadnc.minister.aandc@canada.ca; andre@jafaust.com; David.Coon
>> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>; elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca; Mitton, Megan (LEG)
>> <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>; Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)
>> <kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>; Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca;
>> Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca; dan. bussieres <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>;
>> serge.rousselle <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>; greg.byrne
>> <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>; Jack.Keir <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>; tyler.campbell
>> <tyler.campbell@gnb.ca>; jeff.carr <jeff.carr@gnb.ca>;
>> bob.atwin@nb.aibn.com; jjatwin@gmail.com; markandcaroline
>> <markandcaroline@gmail.com>; sheppardmargo@gmail.com;
>> jordan.gill@cbc.ca; steve.murphy <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>; David.Akin
>> <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>
>> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>; robert.gauvin
>> <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>; Ross.Wetmore <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>; newsroom
>> <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>; Robert. Jones <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>
>> Subject: YO Minister Mikey Holland RE EUB Matter 452 and NB Power's
>> VERY sneaky Application for Approval of an Advanced Metering
>> Infrastructure Capital Project
>>
>> Methinks questionable lawyer Mr Furey wishes to forget many rather
>> important emails I sent him and his bosses over the years but one I
>> sent on the 12th of February of 2018 should be of great importance to
>> mon ami Roger Richard today N'esy Pas?
>>
>> Vertias Vincit
>> David Raymmod Amos
>>
>>
>> P.S.Trust that I published the emails found beloe on the Internet just
>> like I always do
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/01/re-matter-375-nb-power-2018-2019.html
>>
>>
>> Tuesday, 30 January 2018
>> RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
>> should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to
>> read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:40:39 +0000
>> Subject: RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
>> This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
>> how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
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>> Début du message réexpédié :
>>
>> De: "Furey, John" <JFurey@nbpower.com>
>> Objet: RE: Matter 452 - NB Power Application for Approval of an
>> Advanced Metering Infrastructure Capital Project /
>> Date: 5 août 2020 14:59:11 UTC−3
>> À: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>,
>> "Colleen.Mitchell@AtlanticaEnergy.org"
>> <Colleen.Mitchell@AtlanticaEnergy.org>, "david.sollows@gnb.ca"
>> <david.sollows@gnb.ca>, "Heather.Quinn@gnb.ca" <Heather.Quinn@gnb.ca>,
>> "gerald@kissnb.com" <gerald@kissnb.com>, "hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com"
>> <hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>, "cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com"
>> <cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com>, "NbdotCa@hotmail.com"
>> <NbdotCa@hotmail.com>, "Paul.Volpe@libertyutilities.com"
>> <Paul.Volpe@libertyutilities.com>, "Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com"
>> <Gilles.volpe@libertyutilities.com>,
>> "dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com"
>> <dave.lavigne@libertyutilities.com>, "Cozzarini, Lilia"
>> <LCozzarini@nbpower.com>, "Waycott, Stephen" <SWaycott@nbpower.com>,
>> "Crawford, Brad" <BCrawford@nbpower.com>, "Clark, Lori"
>> <LClark@nbpower.com>, NBP Regulatory <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>,
>> "Gagnon, Jessica Lynn" <JGagnon@nbpower.com>, NBEUB/CESPNB
>> <General@nbeub.ca>, "Lawton, John" <John.Lawton@nbeub.ca>, "Desmond,
>> Ellen" <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>, "Dickie, Michael"
>> <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, "Young, Dave" <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>,
>> "anapoleon@synapse-energy.com" <anapoleon@synapse-energy.com>,
>> "bhavumaki@synapse-energy.com" <bhavumaki@synapse-energy.com>,
>> "mikemckinley@rogers.com" <mikemckinley@rogers.com>,
>> "heather.black@gnb.ca" <heather.black@gnb.ca>, "kkelly@daymarkea.com"
>> <kkelly@daymarkea.com>, "jathas@daymarkea.com" <jathas@daymarkea.com>,
>> "pdidomenico@daymarkea.com" <pdidomenico@daymarkea.com>,
>> "rrichard@nb.aibn.com" <rrichard@nb.aibn.com>, "geoff.flood@t4g.com"
>> <geoff.flood@t4g.com>, "sstoll@airdberlis.com"
>> <sstoll@airdberlis.com>, "jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com"
>> <jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com>, "dan.dionne@perth-andover.com"
>> <dan.dionne@perth-andover.com>, "pierreroy@edmundston.ca"
>> <pierreroy@edmundston.ca>, "ray.robinson@sjenergy.com"
>> <ray.robinson@sjenergy.com>, "pzarnett@bdrenergy.com"
>> <pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>
>>
>> Dear Ms. Mitchell,
>>
>> In relation to the above noted Matter, please find attached a Notice
>> of Motion and supporting documentation.
>>
>> All parties to Matter 452 are being served with this documentation.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>> John G. Furey
>> Senior Legal Counsel
>> New Brunswick Power Corporation
>> P.O. Box 2000
>> 515 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B.
>> E3B 4X1
>> Direct Line - 506-458-6970
>> Facsimile - 506-458-4319
>> JFurey@nbpower.com
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "Greg H."
>> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:36:10 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Hey Greg say Hey to two good friends whom I call the
>> other two stooges Curly and Moe
>> To: David Amos , rrichard , Gerald Bourque
>> Cc: David Amos
>>
>> I hear this morning that Canada has made application to take the
>> US/Cdn softwood lumber dispute before the NAFTA Chapter 19 dispute
>> resolution panel. They interviewed some trade expert from Queens
>> University(if my memory has not failed me here) on the CBC NB morning
>> show...he thought it would be a "touchy situation" regards outcome
>> this time around.
>> We know the NB saw-mills are being hit with countervailing and dumping
>> duties but I am asking myself about the pulp-mills which are receiving
>> the fraudulent LIREPP subsidy...*we are even subsidizing a US based
>> pulp-mill with NB Pwr ratepayers $s !*...that being the one on the US
>> side(Madawaska) being fed from the Edmundston pulp-mill switch-yard as
>> they feed its electrical supply for that US operation from the
>> Canadian Edmundston mill side...all supplied via NB Pwr at
>> multi-million $ discounts each year. There is no "renewable energy"
>> received onto the NB Pwr electrical grid...the whole thing is a
>> fraudulent subsidy scam!
>> **G.*
>> *
>>
>> On 16/11/2017 10:00 AM, David Amos wrote:
>>> Methinks Mr Furey is gonna regret having an ethical computer N'esy Pas
>>> Moe?
>>>
>>> Enjoy your day fellas. If don't wake up tommorrow please know it is
>>> because I died laughing in my sleep.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Furey, John"
>> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 12:51:03 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: EXT -  Attn Hon.Rick Doucet Are you aware of
>> what transpired at eh NBEUB on Oct, 31, 2017 and these documents with
>> regards the U.S .Commerce Dept concerns about NB Power and its Large
>> Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program (LIREPP)?
>> To: David Amos
>>
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>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "Furey, John"
>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:11:59 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: EXT -  Re The news NB Power payola and a
>> little Deja Vu about my indignation towards Gaëtan Thomas and Ed
>> Barrett and their meeting with Kris Austin and PANB seven years ago
>> To: David Amos
>>
>>
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>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2018/01/re-matter-375-nb-power-2018-2019.html
>>
>> Tuesday, 30 January 2018
>>
>> RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
>> should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to
>> read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:03:59 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General
>> Rate Application This weekend after I read the Transcript of the
>> Hearing - Day 3 I opted to attend Day 4
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>> From: Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:04:12 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General
>> Rate Application This weekend after I read the Transcript of the
>> Hearing - Day 3 I opted to attend Day 4
>> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
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>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
>> <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:05:13 +0000
>> Subject: RE: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate
>> Application This weekend after I read the Transcript of the Hearing -
>> Day 3 I opted to attend Day 4
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
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>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:03:28 -0400
>> Subject: Re Round 2 of the NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
>> This weekend after I read the Transcript of the Hearing - Day 3 I
>> opted to attend Day 4
>> To: dhebert@npcc.org, charles.berardescof@nerc.net,
>> mpopowich@nbpower.com, ecdesmond@nbeub.ca, newsroom
>> <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>,
>> publicaffairs@doc.gov, "Furey, John" <jfurey@nbpower.com>, wharrison
>> <wharrison@nbpower.com>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, news
>> <news@kingscorecord.com>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "David.Coon"
>> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, BrianThomasMacdonald
>> <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>, "jody.carr" <jody.carr@gnb.ca>,
>> "Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>,
>> "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, "brian.gallant"
>> <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>
>>
>> Tuesday, 30 January 2018
>>
>> RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application This
>> should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know how to
>> read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
>>
>>
>> Hey
>>
>> Clearly I have some serious issues to dispute with Darren Murphy the
>> CFO of NB POWER and the rest of his cohorts within a Crown
>> Corporation. This is as brief as I can make an argument in support of
>> the need of my testimony in the 375 Matter about what occured within
>> it and the 357 Matter etc. In a nutshell I have every right to be an
>> Intervenor and to testify as a witness under oath. NB POWER and its
>> cohorts in NBEUB failed to prove why I have no right to do so. However
>> they certainly proved to anyone who knows how to read what has been
>> published why they should be prosecuted libel ASAP. Section 300 of the
>> Canadian Criminal Code applies to lawyers too. If you don't think I
>> was libeled then introduce me to your lawyer.
>>
>>  The public shows that NBEUB did bar me for malicious reasons on
>> October 31st yet permitted me to attend the public hearings this month
>> in order to advise my friends Gerald Bourque and Roger Richard. On
>> February 7th Gerald Bourque did manage to ask Darren Murphy and his
>> associates on NB Power's 1st panel of witnesses a few questions that I
>> had asked him to. Need I say that I enjoyed their responses?  The
>> NBEUB also allowed me to speak for 21 minutes during the Public
>> Session that evening but the transcript of the aforesaid session has
>> not been filed in the NBEUB records as of yet.
>>
>> My friends Gerald Bourque and Roger Richard as Intervenors in this
>> matter have every right to say and do what they wish which also
>> includes paying heed to my advice or ignoring it altogether. The
>> filings of Roger Richard in this matter easily attest to the fact that
>> initially he wished for me to testify on his behalf in this matter.
>> However after Daniel Leblanc appeared in the matter in order to speak
>> on my friend's behalf I was removed as a witness. So be it. The NBEUB
>> and all the other Intervenors know the truth of my concerns anyway
>> byway of many filings within the 357 and 375 Matters. More importantly
>> I stated my opinion of this fancy little circus in no uncertain terms
>> of the evening of February 7th and I look for to reviewing what I said
>> in the heat of the moment.
>>
>> This weekend after I read the transcript of the 3rd day of the hearing
>> I ried to convince my friend Roger Richard to ignore Leblanc's advice
>> and put me in his witness list again. However he did not wish to, so I
>> respectfully backed away again and will not interfere with my friend's
>> plan to stop smart meters going to NB. Methinks the key to it will be
>> the media N'esy Pas Mr Jones?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> These documents can be sourced from the records of the 375 Matter
>>
>> http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560
>>
>> 02/07/2018    Hearing - Day 1 / Audience - 1ier jour
>>
>> Page 295
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. So there is the two interveners 6 or two
>> participants in the proceeding that have no legal  counsel. One is Mr.
>> Richard and the other one is Mr. Bourque. So I just want to provide --
>> yes, Mr. Rouse?
>>
>> MR. ROUSE: I guess I don't have legal counsel either.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: True. So you are -- NCFS doesn't have legal counsel?
>>
>> MR. ROUSE: That's correct.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So I will address the three of you then. So Mr. Bourque
>> and Mr. Rouse -- I think, Mr. Rouse, you know how the proceeding
>> proceeds. So Mr. Bourque, essentially when it comes and you have a
>> panel, they are subject to cross-examination. And if you do have any
>> questions specifically to the panel, you will be asked to come in
>> front and ask your question to whomever your questions you want to ask
>> to. Now if there is an objection to your questioning I would ask you
>> to stop and at that point what  I will do is I will hear the person
>> who was objecting to your question and afterwards I will hear if you
>> have any other comments to make regarding the objection and we will
>> deal with those -- with the objection as it comes. So do you
>> understand that?
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Yes, I do and thanks for explaining it.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you. Monsieur Richard, essentiellement
>> qu’est ce qui va arriver, pis quoi je mentionnais en anglais, c’est
>> que vous êtes non-représenté par un avocat donc vous – peut-être que
>> vous connaissez pas toute la façon que les procédures fonctionnent.
>> Donc, l’Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick a différent panel qui – qui vont
>> introduire pour – pour – pour contre-interrogatoire, donc si vous avez
>> des questions a demandé aux personnes, donc, vous allez poser vos
>> questions à ces personnes-là. Et puis si y’a une partie qui s’objecte
>> à votre question, j’vous demanderais juste d’arrêter. Et puis quoi ce
>> que la Commission va faire c’est qu’elle va entendre la partie qui
>> s’objecte. Et puis à ce moment-là j’vas vous demandez si vous avez
>> aucun commentaire à regarder l’objection et puis on – on va – on va
>> rendre une décision à ce point-là  relativement à l’objection. Est-ce
>> que vous comprenez  ceci.
>>
>> DR. RICHARD: Oui. Oui, Monsieur Vice-président.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN : Pis je comprends aussi que, Monsieur Richard, que vous
>> êtes un professionnel, donc durant la procédure  vous serez pas ici à
>> tous les jours. J’pense que vous avez  autorisé un Monsieur LeBlanc de
>> – d’être ici à – pour vous  représenter lorsque vous serez dans votre
>> clinique. Je ne  sais pas où votre clinique est, donc ce que je
>> comprends  bien que cette personne-là va vous représentez lorsque vous
>> serez pas disponible.
>>
>> DR. RICHARD : Oui c’est bien ça
>>
>> Page 322
>>
>> CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BOURQUE:
>>
>> Q. - Mr. Murphy, as Chief Financial Officer, do you agree with 13 the
>> accounting of KPMG?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, do I understand the question, do I agree with the
>> accounting of KPMG?
>>
>> Q. - Yes.
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do.
>>
>> Q. - Do you know the account -- the KPMG auditor, and if so who are they?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Sorry, I am having a little difficult time 21 hearing up
>> here, did you say the owner or the author?
>>
>> Q. - The auditors, sorry about that.
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Yes, I do. I know the primary partner on our  particular
>> audit
>> file.
>>
>> Q. - Do you have a name for them?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Our primary audit partner is Jamie O'Neil.
>>
>> Q. - Jamie O'Neil. And I was a bit surprised that when I asked the
>> question earlier and there was -- the audit was not signed and any
>> business I have ever been involved with before, the auditors always
>> came and made the presentation of the audit and this didn't appear to
>> happen. Is there a reason for that?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: So I am not exactly sure of the reference that's being
>> made, but our audit statements are signed every year. As described, we
>> have a very traditional process in terms of the auditors coming in and
>> making a final presentation to the boards of directors. It's at that
>> time that we do sign off on the audited statements  and they are
>> available online for anybody to go in and view them.
>>
>> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you familiar with David Amos and Greg Hickey and
>> their concerns about the payout to pulp mills by the NB Power Large
>> Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase programs and the fact that the
>> U.S. Department of Commerce consider it corporate welfare affecting
>> the American interest and with trade with Canada?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: Mr. Chair, we have been down this road before in previous
>> hearings. Mr. Hickey addressed this in at least one, and if I am not
>> mistaken, two hearings. And I believe where we objected to certain
>> questions of Mr. Hickey in the past like this, the Board concluded
>> that relevant questioning -- that it would be a relevant question to
>> ask questions related to compliance by NB Power with provisions of the
>> Electricity Act and the LIREPP regulation, the renewable regulation,
>> which includes the LIREPP program, but debate about policy, as to
>> whether or not LIREPP is a desirable policy is not a matter for this
>> Board and I think we have had that resolved in previous hearings.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, Mr. Furey is right. We did have -- when
>> Mr. Hickey was here last year, and I think at other hearings, we had
>> that debate and so it's a policy issue. If you have questions
>> regarding LIREPP, regarding compliance, I think you are permitted to
>> ask those questions, but if it's questions regarding policy, regarding
>> the LIREPP program, it's not relevant and it's in the legislation so
>> --
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: I wasn't aware of what took place last year.
>>
>> Q. - Mr. Murphy, are you aware of my friend, David Amos and the
>> concerns with the NB Power since 2006?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: I would not say that I am aware of any detailed concerns
>> that Mr. Amos has expressed.
>>
>> Q. - Have you read the filings that NB Power filed into the record of
>> this matter since -- on October 30th of 2017?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: Yes, generally I have read all the documents.
>>
>> Q. - Have you read the transcript of the hearing on October 2 31st?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the transcript.
>>
>> Q. - And have you read the emails that Mr. Amos sent since then?
>>
>> MR. MURPHY: I did not read the emails. If there is something in
>> particular that's filed on evidence that you would like to bring up on
>> the screen for me to review, I am happy to review it and answer
>> questions on it, but I have not read the emails.
>>
>> Q. - Ms. Clark, why does NB Power consider the smart meter it  wished
>> to attach to my home a federal matter? If I get  sick, or because of
>> an injury to my home or property, do I  sue the federal or do I sue NB
>> Power?
>>
>> MS. CLARK: So with respect to the smart meters, the AMI installation,
>> we would be complying with all of Health  Canada's Guidelines with
>> respect to the meter installation.
>>
>> Q. - So if there is a problem NB Power is responsible for it or the
>> federal, if you are complying by the federal regulations?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: Mr. Vice-Chair, I don't think that's a fair question to
>> address to this panel.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Is there going to be another panel that can address his
>> question, Mr. Furey?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: Well to be asked to comment in advance on circumstances in
>> which liability might arise, you know, certainly if there is a
>> specific fact circumstance presented, maybe the question could be
>> answered, but this is very broad.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So are you suggesting that if he rephrases  his
>> question that this panel could answer the question?
>>
>> MR. FUREY: I guess I would have to hear the question, but I -- what I
>> am saying is the question as framed is I think impossible to answer.
>> And it's unfair to ask any witness to commit to liability around a
>> question as broad as if something goes wrong.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque, can you reframe your question?
>>
>> Q. - Well my -- my concern is the spending of a lot of money for the
>> smart meters. And as we heard earlier this morning, the temperature
>> has a big temp' -- a big effect on the use of power. Well do we need
>> to spend millions of dollars to tell us when the temperature gets
>> colder and that? NB Power knows that. When the temperature goes down,
>> they are going to have to start producing, you know, more power to
>> supply the demand. And I think it's really -- wonder if it's worth
>> sending that. The other thing is I have received some videos off the
>> internet of smart meters where they literally caught the side of the
>> house  on fire. There was pictures of just around the meter and that.
>> So if that happens to my house, who is responsible?
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Panel?
>>
>> MS. CLARK: I will address your question in two parts. The first part
>> of it is with respect to the installation of smart meters or the AMI
>> project. The example that was given would be a perfect reason for NB
>> Power to install advanced metering infrastructure. During the times
>> when the utility or when the province is facing very cold
>> temperatures, having the advanced metering infrastructure in place
>> would allow customers to have more information readily available
>> during the month. So when we are dealing with high bill complaints,
>> like we have been this last month due to the extremely cold
>> temperatures, customers would actually be able to see their usage
>> throughout the month and not be subject to receiving a final bill at
>> the end of the month and being surprised by their consumption because
>> of the cold weather. So this would be a perfect example of why the
>> advanced metering infrastructure would be in the -- it would be in the
>> benefit of our customers.
>> The second piece, I think with reference to the safety of meters, we
>> will be following Measurement Canada safety standards, Health Canada
>> safety standards. All of our meters will be tested. And during the
>> install, we will actually be able to look at customers' premises to
>> see if there are any issues related to safety that we should be
>> addressing at the time. There are specific incidents where there have
>> been some issues with meters being installed, but those are very
>> specific to either the geographical location where they were being
>> installed or the customers' equipment itself. But again when we are
>> actually installing the meters, as we are installing 355,000 meters
>> across the province, we will actually be  able to visually inspect
>> each one of those locations to see if there is any issues with respect
>> to the meter itself or the installation that's on the customers'
>> premises. But it would depend on what exactly it is we find as to how
>> it would be handled.
>>
>> Q. - I got one final question. If a customer decides he doesn't want a
>> smart meter at his place, can he opt out?
>>
>> MS. CLARK: Yes, absolutely. We will have an opt out policy.
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is that all your questions, Mr. 20 Bourque?
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Yes.
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you.
>>
>> MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
>>
>>
>> 02/09/2018      Hearing - Day 3/ Audience - 3ième jour
>>
>>
>> Page 590
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: That is a pretty broad statement. If you could be a
>> little bit more specific on restrictions you  are referring to.
>>
>> Q. - Well for an example, Mr. Cronkhite, would be the LIREPP program
>> restricts how your generation assets are used. Would you agree with
>> that?
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: The LIREPP program is simply a input of renewable
>> resources into the system. It does not, in my opinion, for the size of
>> the contribution, restrict our operations in any way.
>>
>> Q. - Okay. You have purchase power agreements. Do they mot also
>> dictate or indicate how your generation assets can be used?
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: Certainly we do have power purchase arrangements when
>> energy would be an example where we need to incorporate that wind when
>> it's generated. As a result of that, we do position, so I think maybe
>> Ms. Desmond may be asking this that we do need to position our
>> remaining fleet to accommodate or adjust and follow that wind
>> variation as it operates today. Not unlike that we would have with
>> embedded generation assets, and to a much smaller degree obviously,
>> home generation around solar and different items such as that.
>>
>> Q. - If we were to maximize the benefits of AMI in our smart grid,
>> isn't it also true that we should maximize the use of our generation
>> supply assets that we currently have, and wouldn't that mean
>> revisiting some of these existing constraints?
>>
>> MR. CRONKHITE: We are always mindful of the existing commitments that
>> we have on our system today. When we look forward with respect to the
>> time frames, and as I mentioned earlier, that this is a managed
>> transition not over five years, but over 15, 20 and 25 years, we are
>> always mindful and that's why we have looked at power purchase
>> arrangements that are coming due in the mid-20s and beyond that we
>> allow the freedom and flexibility for us to make the correct
>> adjustments, as we move towards those particular milestones.
>> With respect to new generation coming on line, that's why we do the
>> modelling, that's why we do sensitivities around various scenarios to
>> ensure that we are optimizing to the best of our ability. One of the
>> foundational items around our Energy Smart NB plan is being able to
>> connect with customers to connect to intermittent generation that we
>> know is coming onto the system in the near term and medium term and
>> having more visibility on that. So that exactly we can optimize our
>> generation fleet more effectively today through visibility on this
>> distributed generation resources so that we can synchronize it much
>> more effectively with the system moving forward.
>>
>> Q. - I wasn't specifically asking about new generation. It really was
>> the existing constraints that you have to work around and deal with in
>> terms of generation dispatch.
>>
>> MS. DESMOND: Okay. I think those are all of our questions  though.
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>> BY THE BOARD:
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Ms. Desmond.  So I think we do have -- as
>> Board members we do have a couple of questions to ask.  So I will
>> start.  I am looking at your current business case that you have
>> before us with your total project contribution of minus $1.3 million.
>> And from the evidence that we have heard the last couple of days, is
>> that you consider this as a breakeven number, and I think that that's
>> what you were telling us, Ms. Clark.
>>         So the normal individual, your rate customer, would you not
>> think that he would not perceive your $1.3 million as a breakeven
>> number?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  I guess in the context in which I was using breakeven is
>> it is an investment rationale document and it's intended to cover the
>> life cycle costs of the program, and those are assumptions and it's
>> hovering very close to zero when you look at it over the life cycle.
>> I think in the last few days of the hearing, we have indicated that
>> it's more than breakeven and would even say that if we were to
>> incorporate the adjustments, and the undertaking we just took from Ms.
>> Desmond to provide the adjustments that were recommended in the
>> Synapse report, we are looking at an investment rationale that is
>> leaning closer to probably $10 million or 8 or $9 million.  And if we
>> were to quantify some of those non-quantifiable benefits and be less
>> conservative in some of the estimates that we put in the investment
>> rationale document, I think we could easily get to a $10 million
>> improvement.
>>         Again, and I know you have heard this before, the intention
>> was to come in as conservative as possible, and know that we had all
>> the potential upside.  In hindsight, perhaps we should have taken a
>> different approach, but I do believe that we can demonstrate that we
>> have a positive investment rationale as well.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So there was discussion around -- and I think it was
>> brought forward by Mr. Bourque and Dr. Richard, all about -- and Ms.
>> Desmond regarding the option of option in and option out.  Have you
>> surveyed your current residential customers to see who will opt in and
>> who will opt out before making $123 million investment?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  Customer engagement is a big part of this project, and
>> we are as concerned as you would be about making that sort of an
>> investment.  So we will be doing, as part of our customer engagement,
>> but part of it is the focus group that we did early on is people don't
>> understand what the smart meter is, so part of it would be around
>> education of what the smart meter is and the benefits it can provide
>> to customers.  So we need to educate our customers first and then
>> allow them to make an informed decision.  So that will be part of the
>> roll-out plan and we will check and adjust along the way.  If there
>> are issues concerning the social engagement or a customer's uptake,
>> you know, this is very similar to what has been done in other
>> jurisdictions and they haven't had those challenges, but if we did, we
>> certainly wouldn't be looking at making an investment of this size
>> without having the customer with us.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Well don't you think, Ms. Clark, that you should
>> have your educational piece before the Board approves $123 million
>> spend?
>>
>> MS. CLARK:  I recognize the challenge.  The commitment the utility
>> would make is, as part of the project itself, we would be doing --
>> undertaking the engagement process with our customers again starting
>> with the education piece.
>>        Assuming that was positive, we would proceed and we are
>> prepared to give the Board updates, as we come forward, either through
>> the general rate application or through any other process including
>> the quarterly updates we are providing at this point in time on our
>> infrastructure, so that can be done and conditional with the approval
>> of the project.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So I am trying to understand the objective of the
>> AMI, and there was discussion, so can -- and I am having a little bit
>> of difficulty understanding what is the objective or objectives that
>> you are trying to do with AMI?
>>
>>
>> Page 601
>>
>> VICE-CHAIRMAN:  I was a bit surprised when I heard this morning and
>> yesterday that you are entering into a contract at the end of February
>> and is that with respect to the purchase of the smart meters?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  That's correct.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So how can you enter into a contract without the
>> firm approval of this Board, if we are going to approve or not the
>> AMI?  How prudent is that?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  So we are at the end stages of the contract in terms of
>> just the final terms and conditions, but we have been very clear that
>> we -- with the vendor -- and they recognize that, because we also have
>> Nova Scotia Power, who is part of our consortium, who also needs Board
>> approval.  So should we not get -- this is conditional on EUB
>> approval.  So should we not get EUB approval, the contract would not
>> proceed.
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Now there was discussion yesterday, I think it was
>> with Mr. Stoll regarding time of use and time based pricing, and so I
>> went through the evidence this morning, and in your main evidence, and
>> I think one of the objective of having the AMI going forward to a time
>> of use price structure -- rate structure.  So am I understanding that
>> correctly?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  That is correct.  And in the evidence, we did answer an
>> interrogatory on that and you will see that AMI is an enabler for time
>> varying rates in the Energy Smart NB Plan.  And we did have time
>> varying rates included in our investment rationale.  We took it out,
>> because we couldn't -- we couldn't pinpoint without more detail as to
>> what those time varying rates may be and the benefit of those, so we
>> took them out of the investment rationale at this point in time, but
>> certainly it's something that we are looking at in the future.
>>
>>
>>   VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So the fundamental question here is that the Board
>> should heard -- or hear Matter 357 before approving the AMI?  So if we
>> don't approve time of use, that basically what will happen with your
>> AMI, I mean it's -- if we don't approve the time of use, which we are
>> going to hear next year, how can we proceed in approving the AMI
>> before we look at the rate structure?
>>
>>   MS. CLARK:  As we have talked about in our investment rationale,
>> there are a number of other benefits to both the customer and to the
>> utility over and above time varying rates that we believe are
>> important for the utility and for the movement forward of our Energy
>> Smart New Brunswick plan.  Many of those benefits accrue to the
>> customer.  And many of those benefits accrue to the utility and
>> ultimately the customer.  So even if we were not to move in the
>> direction of time varying rates, we believe that the investment
>> rationale supports the AMI installation based on the other investment
>> -- or based on the other benefits that it provides.
>>
>>
>> 10/31/2017      Pre-Hearing / Conférence préalable à l'audience
>>
>>
>> Page 84
>>
>> CHAIRMAN: All right. I will now give the decision of the Board on this
>> matter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos seeks intervenor status in Matter 375. NB Power objects to
>> his intervention claiming his conduct during the hearing of a motion
>> in Matter 357 was confrontational  and that his arguments lacked any
>> connection to the issues  before the Board. The Board agrees with that
>> assessment.
>>
>> In the present matter, Mr. Amos was given ample  opportunity to put
>> forward a case that would support a respectful and responsible
>> intervention. He failed to do so, rolling forward issues raised in
>> Matter 357 and not addressing the issue before us today.
>>
>> Mr. Amos states that the interests he would bring before  the Board
>> are those raised by Mr. Bourque and Mr. Richard. The Board is
>> satisfied that those two intervenors can  adequately represent those
>> issues. In addition, those  issues will undoubtedly be addressed by
>> the Public Intervenor and others.
>>
>> Page 85
>>
>> The Board finds on a balance of probability that Mr. Amos will not
>> participate in this matter in a respectful and  responsible manner. As
>> a result, the Board will exercise  its discretion and refuse
>> intervenor status to Mr. Amos. Intervention is encouraged but it must
>> be responsible.
>>
>> Mr. Amos may participate in the public session which date  will be
>> announced shortly. But again he is reminded that  any presentation
>> must be done in a respectful and  responsible manner.
>>
>> Finally, Mr. Amos had indicated that he wished to assist  his two
>> colleagues that are sitting with him today. And  certainly the Board
>> has no issue with that at all. But Mr. Amos will have no status at the
>> hearing in terms of  cross-examination or making any argument.
>> So that is the decision of this Panel with respect to the status of Mr.
>> Amos.
>>
>> Are there any other issues to deal with today? There being no other
>> issues, then we will adjourn.
>>
>>
>> This exhbit was filed by NB Power along with many others to support my
>> barring from the 375 Matter
>>
>> NB  Power  Notice  of  Objection  -  Appendix  I        10/30/2017
>>
>> For the benefit of my fellow stakeholders I wish to explain all of the
>> transcript found above of under oath
>>
>
 
 
 
 
 
 

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