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State sit and pay attention N'esy Pas?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-mandatory-masks-in-place-mid-october-1.5747584
Mandatory mask order may — or may not — be coming by Oct. 8, says Higgs
Premier holds COVID-19 briefing, announces changes at borders within Atlantic bubble
· CBC News · Posted: Oct 02, 2020 9:02 AM AT
Premier Blaine Higgs's position on mandatory masks was unclear during Friday's COVID-19 briefing in Fredericton. (CBC)
New Brunswick may — or may not — make wearing masks mandatory in public as early as next week, says Premier Blaine Higgs.
Early Friday morning, Higgs told CBC masks would soon be required, likely by mid-October, if not sooner.
"We're going to lead up to it, we're kind of building into it, working with the communities, working with the businesses, staging people to become more diligent and get into that program," he said.
During a COVID-19 briefing at 11 a.m., however, Higgs stepped back from that.
"Although I prefer not to make mask use mandatory in public spaces, I know that it may soon be necessary — even as early as Oct. 8," he told reporters, citing the recent surge in cases in Quebec and Maine.
Later, when asked to clarify, he said: "There is a possibility we will implement this next week. It could be a week or two out. … I guess the only clarity here I'll add, it could be as early as Oct. 8, or it could be delayed a few weeks, but I would suggest that mandatory masks are coming soon into our province."
Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Jennifer Russell said more New Brunswick workers are getting into the habit of wearing a mask, which is encouraging. "But to protect our most vulnerable, we need to stay well ahead of the course of this pandemic.
"We will be monitoring mask use across the province, and I will not hesitate to recommend a mandatory order if this becomes necessary," she said.
Masks
could be the rule as early as Oct. 8 in New Brunswick, says Premier
Blaine Higgs, although he's reluctant to make the order. 1:17
In a subsequent news release, Higgs "reminded" New Brunswickers that wearing a face mask in public when physical distancing is not possible is mandatory under the province's state of emergency order.
If New Brunswickers do not comply with the emergency order by wearing masks when required, a mandatory mask policy "could be implemented" as soon as Oct. 8, according to the release.
"Staying in the Yellow level of recovery is essential to maintaining health, and keeping our economy and schools open," Higgs said in a statement.
This isn't the first time the government's messaging about masks has been unclear.
On June 5, the government announced face coverings would be required to enter buildings open to the general public, but it reversed the decision the next day.
"Cabinet has reviewed the decision and it was not the intent to place an additional expectation on businesses or the public regarding wearing a face covering in a public space," it said in a news release at the time.
Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador have already implemented mandatory orders.
Higgs acknowledged Friday he expects most New Brunswickers are anticipating the province will follow suit.
It was the first COVID-19 briefing in more than six weeks.
Higgs told CBC News earlier Friday morning that wearing
masks in indoor public areas would be mandatory by mid-October if not
sooner. (Submitted by Codiac Transpo)
No new cases of COVID-19 were recorded for the seventh day in a row Friday and one more case has recovered.
There are now five active cases of the respiratory disease in the province — three in the Moncton region (Zone 1), one is attributed to the Fredericton region (Zone 3), although the infected person is actually in Ontario recovering, and one is in the Bathurst region (Zone 6).
An infected Quebec resident who works in Campbellton is being counted in the Quebec numbers. Contact tracing is being conducted in New Brunswick.
A total of 661 COVID-19 tests were completed Thursday, bringing the total number of tests conducted since the pandemic began in March to 78,635.
There have been 200 cases of COVID-19 in the province to date, with 193 recoveries and two deaths.
Support for mandatory order
The premier said Friday the discussion about making masks mandatory was a big topic at COVID-19 all-party cabinet committee Thursday.
"It's being driven by the situation in our neighbouring provinces."
Green Party Leader David Coon and Roger Melanson, Interim Leader of the Liberal Party said they both supported the mandatory mask requirement.
"We've got to move to the point where where everyone's wearing masks in indoor public spaces with cases of COVID-19 surging on the other side of the Atlantic bubble and the incredible success we've had in New Brunswick and throughout the Atlantic bubble, we don't want to jeopardize that," said Coon.
Melanson, who didn't attend Thursday's meeting said his party will support it.
"Wearing a mask, if public health has made that recommendation in public spaces, we would support that."
But People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said he's not sure the timing is right on mandatory masks, seeing that New Brunswick is doing exceptionally well right now.
"My take on it is look if, you know, we see an uptick in cases and government has to clamp down a little bit harder and make them mandatory, I would certainly support that."
Changes to bubble border screening
New Brunswick officials will no longer screen travellers entering the province from Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island in vehicles, starting Oct. 8, Higgs announced on Friday.
Instead, some of the peace officers will be redeployed to the borders with Quebec and Maine, which currently pose a bigger threat, he said.
"We have been able to reopen businesses and reopen our schools in an effective manner. The threat, however, is once again literally at our doorstep."
Quebec was "making good progress" just over a month ago, said Higgs. But two days ago, that province reported 933 new cases in a single day, and 12 deaths occurred between Sept. 24 and Sept. 29.
Premier
Blaine Higgs says New Brunswick is abandoning the screening checkpoints
for travellers from P.E.I. and Nova Scotia Brunswick 1:13
In Baileyville, Maine, just across the St. Stephen border, a mill worker at Woodland Pulp tested positive for COVID-19 on Thursday morning. Earlier this week, seven out-of-state contractors who were working on the fibre line during the mill's annual maintenance operation also tested positive.
The worker who tested positive lives in Maine, but seven New Brunswick residents work at the mill, a company spokesperson confirmed to CBC News.
All the workers at Woodland and its two sister companies, St. Croix Tissue and St. Croix Chipping, are now being tested for the virus.
"These situations drive home how close the virus still is and how quickly things can change," the premier said.
To that end, some of the redeployed peace officers will focus on other efforts to prevent the spread of COVID-19, such as ensuring compliance with 14-day self-isolation requirements and guidelines regarding gatherings and business operations, he said.
Border measures will remain in place for travellers from outside Atlantic provinces, he added.
Trick or treat or not?
While no specifics were revealed during the panel discussion, Coon said Halloween would be a happy one for everyone.
Austin agreed, saying it was important to allow society to carry on as much as possible as long as the recommendations of Public Health were followed.
"I think right now it's just important that society continues on, you know, with in mind that we are still in a pandemic and to do the right thing."
Melanson said if the recommendation is to go ahead with Halloween, all precautions will have to be taken.
"And at the end of the day, it's the parents' decisions to and with their children to decide if yes or no they would want to do trick or treating, if that's the decision to be allowed."
When rules are violated
When a member of the audience complained that some young people are holding large gatherings and ignoring the precautions laid down by Public Health, Higgs said it seems some people have forgotten there is a pandemic.
"We have seen this in other provinces and we've seen the result. We've seen Quebec locked down, essentially in lockdown now, for the next 28 days."
Higgs said the province will intervene when the mandatory emergency order is being violated, but this will be done in a way that persuades people to be part of the solution rather than a bigger problem.
Melanson said people still have to take precautions.
"We're starting to see that around us outside New Brunswick. We're not isolated totally from what's happening outside."
With files from Information Morning Fredericton
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David Amos
Methinks
the secretive Oral decision of the EUB today about the raising of NB
Power Rates should make all ethical folks opposed to Higgy's Police
State sit and pay attention N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
The eub helping themselves again?
The eub helping themselves again?
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: YUP
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Peters:
Did they ever stop?
Did they ever stop?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nope but their secret meeting today was wickedly funny
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Check the news
David Amos
Methinks
its interssting that Higgy and his cohorts want to talk about their
proposed good news for Halloween but don't mention their plans for
Thanksgiving N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Why you looking for a free dinner the slop at the mental joint aint cutting it no more?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP for me will ya?
Johnny Almar
No face diapers. There’s no virus in NB. If you insist then open the borders. Trudeau open the US border. Bring it on.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Go back to bed and dream on
Terry Tibbs
What is with this "may, or may not" business?
I had thought by this clown getting a majority it would put to bed the song and dance routine that has characterized "government by Hggs"?
Guess I was wrong?
Well, at least I didn't vote for stupid.
I had thought by this clown getting a majority it would put to bed the song and dance routine that has characterized "government by Hggs"?
Guess I was wrong?
Well, at least I didn't vote for stupid.
Fred Dee
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: no you did not vote for Higgs... that makes you stupid!!
who could vote for what's his name... the last liberal leader?? So quickly forgotten
who could vote for what's his name... the last liberal leader?? So quickly forgotten
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Dee:
Nor did I vote for stupid's brother.
Nor did I vote for stupid's brother.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Methinks you should read the news about NB Power this evening
then scroll down to find my comment about it before the ink was dry on
the written decision.
David Amos
Reply
to @Fred Dee: Methinks the clowns you worship are so confused that some
of they don't even know what part they should play in Higgy's latest
circus so some of just might just up and quit N'esy Pas?
Amajor Hall
Mandatory
mask 'laws' in ON and PQ and what happened? They set case records! Yep,
the fix is in! Mask wearing goes up and the cases go up also! Straight
garbaggio!
Fred Dee
Reply to @Amajor Hall: it was not done early enough!! that is the issue
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee: Nope
Amajor Hall
But
they're now not going to monitor who comes into the province from other
bubble provinces which means they have no cases neither...but masks are
going to save the day against how many cases? That's right 5! Yes,
straight garbage...in the atlantic bubble, there is no pandemic, like
none, there may be people with Covid, like 14-15 across 4 provinces and
about 3.5M people, but they are isolated allegedly and there is no
pandemic!
Fred Dee
Reply to @Amajor
Hall: what about those coming from Ontario and Quebec??? yet alone the
US!!! People enter NB from there every day!! all it takes is one person
not to self isolate to start the spread!!! Mask on now would help slow
the spread!!!
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Fred Dee: Dream on and when you wake up call your lawyer and explain to him why you labeled me as a criminal
John Smith
Reply to @Fred Dee: good 99+% wont even know they are now immune
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Dee:
So, we are expected to pay the penalty for those in charge not continuing to do their jobs?
There should be no one, just casually, coming from Ontario and quebec, and those with purpose should be tested on entry, but again that would require folks doing their jobs.
So, we are expected to pay the penalty for those in charge not continuing to do their jobs?
There should be no one, just casually, coming from Ontario and quebec, and those with purpose should be tested on entry, but again that would require folks doing their jobs.
Lou Bell
As usual with CBC "
likely " means definitely ! They never seem to get it right , other than
when it comes to their " distinct " party preferences !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river
Ferdinand
Boudreau
Let
not forget . A mask stop the person who has the virus from transmitting
it to another. Wearing a mask does next to nothing from receiving the
virus. Just to be on the safe side I wear a mask in public places to
insure I don't infect anyone. Someone who has the virus, and not wearing
a mask, could still pass it on to me even though Ii am waring a mask.
Just saying!
Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Ferdinand
Boudreau: Take a puff off of a cigarette, put on your mask, and exhale.
Methinks virus particles are smaller than smoke particles, I can see
smoke, but not viruses.
Nuff said.
Nuff said.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man: Ok so you "think" the virus is smaller than smoke
particles. Well with such overwhelming proof, I just don't know what to
say except that you better call the World Health Organization and the
CDC right now and tell them that they got it all wrong and tell them all
about your scientific proof.
David Amos
Reply to @Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man: Methinks some folks may wish to accuse you of
being me but you are definitely NOT N'esy Pas?
Bill Vasseur
Funny
thing this mask situation, when contact tracers do their work they only
want to check with people you've had direct contact with for at least
15 minutes without wearing a mask. That tells me that this is a basic
requirement for transmission of the virus. How many people in say a
grocery store would this happen to ? In any event the writing for this
has been in the wind for quite some time. I'm sure Higgs was planning
this even before the election, but didn't bring it up during this time
knowing full well that it would cost him votes. In any event we are now
stuck with this want to be autocrat for the next four years, it scares
me to think of what this province will look like in 2024
Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Bill Vasseur: I saw this, and didn't vote for him, or anybody this time.
Richard Cyr
Reply to @Bill Vasseur:
2024 will pale in comparison to 2030-35 when you all reach the LTC facility more or less at the same time.
2024 will pale in comparison to 2030-35 when you all reach the LTC facility more or less at the same time.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Vasseur: Me Too
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Vasseur:
Funny thing is the story is constantly changing, and different depending which official in charge you talk to, either there is a break down in the transmission of memo's, or a lot is getting lost in translation.
Funny thing is the story is constantly changing, and different depending which official in charge you talk to, either there is a break down in the transmission of memo's, or a lot is getting lost in translation.
Jeff LeBlanc
It
makes me warm on the inside the more I see the utter contempt and rage
from being told they "might" have to wear a mask. Each post I see
someone going off I smile a bit larger, not unlike the Grinch. Oh to be a
fly on the wall the day one of you actually tries to defy the upcoming
mask law. I'd pay $9.99 pay per view just to see that. Actually make
that $19.99. To see you being hauled away in cuffs with a hood over your
head would be worth it. Good day.
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: You like Soviet Russia yes!
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: Only people in Russia get arrested for breaking the law?
Dan Lee
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
i agree with jeff
i agree with jeff
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Lee: Me Too
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: I look forward to the day when it happens to you too
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
The only utter contempt I have is with a government that hasn't got a clue, hasn't been able to hire anyone who does with unlimited funding, and can't make a firm decision. If I jerked you around this way I would expect a punch in the mouth.
The only utter contempt I have is with a government that hasn't got a clue, hasn't been able to hire anyone who does with unlimited funding, and can't make a firm decision. If I jerked you around this way I would expect a punch in the mouth.
Bruce Sanders
Although I prefer not to make mask use mandatory in public spaces"
Why is any of this being discussed? This is all going the wrong way. You ought to be discussing how to do test on arrival and open the province. This is not April, the death rate on Canada is extremely low; It's 96% lower than May. 99% lower if one is in New York State. Idiocy.
Why is any of this being discussed? This is all going the wrong way. You ought to be discussing how to do test on arrival and open the province. This is not April, the death rate on Canada is extremely low; It's 96% lower than May. 99% lower if one is in New York State. Idiocy.
David Amos
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Welcome Back to the Circus
Methinks over the course of the course of the next four years it should become commonly known as Higgy's State N'esy Pas?
Methinks over the course of the course of the next four years it should become commonly known as Higgy's State N'esy Pas?
Kat Jo
Good grief people, we're being asked to wear a mask in public places. Let's be kind and help protect each other.
We are so fortunate to live where we do, the rest of Canada is envious of the Atlantic bubble.
We are so fortunate to live where we do, the rest of Canada is envious of the Atlantic bubble.
Bruce
Sanders
Reply to @Kat Jo: Who
has exactly told you anywhere they are envious? I have not heard that
from anyone in the 4 Provinces in which I have been the previous 3
months, never minding other countries.
Kat Jo
Reply to @Bruce
Sanders: Friends and family living in other Canadian provinces have
told me. We are living in one of the safest locations in the world.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Kat Jo: We are not living, we are "existing".
Errol
Willis
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: That's a pretty sad statement. You must not have much joy
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Errol
Willis: It's true, the future is tyranny, and covid-19 is the vector to
bring it. Don't believe me, just wait...
Matthew Smith
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: oh please....
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Kat Jo:
No, we are not being asked, we are being told.
No, we are not being asked, we are being told.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BINGO
James
Risdon
It
would be idiotic to make the wearing of face masks mandatory in
northern New Brunswick right now. There is ONE case of Covid-19 in the
entire Bathurst region.
ONE.
Who the heck are we protecting ourselves from or who are we protecting from us if we wear face masks?
You can't catch Covid-19 from someone who doesn't have it.
ONE.
Who the heck are we protecting ourselves from or who are we protecting from us if we wear face masks?
You can't catch Covid-19 from someone who doesn't have it.
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Explain that to your buddy Higgy not us
Fred Brewer
Reply to @James
Risdon: "You can't catch Covid-19 from someone who doesn't have it."
Thank you Captain Obvious. If only we could see Covid-19 then I could
agree with your position on masks but we can't. Therefore any person you
meet could be infected and you would have no idea.
I take it you would like to gamble and roll the dice and hope that we don't get a super spreader that would send the entire province back into a lockdown. Me, I don't want to take that chance and will happily wear a mask
I take it you would like to gamble and roll the dice and hope that we don't get a super spreader that would send the entire province back into a lockdown. Me, I don't want to take that chance and will happily wear a mask
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
How much sickness can you hide behind a mask?
How much sickness can you hide behind a mask?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: What the heck is your point? Infected persons are typically
perfectly healthy while still contagious. This has nothing to do with
hiding and if you are sick most people don't want to go out, nor should
they.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Lots Methinks the truly evil ones often wear a mask of virtue N'esy Pas?
James
Risdon
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Risks need to be evaluated based on the best available evidence.
It is possible that an asteroid will crash into the Earth in the coming days, destroy a nuclear power plant or weapons facility, and trigger a chain of events that will lead to the destruction of almost all human life on the planet.
But it's very unlikely based on the best available evidence and so we do not hunker down in concrete bunkers carved into the sides of mountains with everything needed to survive a nuclear winter and restart human civilization later.
We roll the dice. The odds are with us.
Ditto for Covid-19 planning. It only makes sense to plan for the reasonable dangers and not every single possible far-fetched contingency.
In northern New Brunswick where there is only one case of Covid-19, the risk of catching the sickness through casual contact in public spaces is as close to zero as it can come without actually being zero.
That's why mandating face masks in public in northern New Brunswick at this time is idiotic. It would only fuel fear and anxiety and lead people to conclude the situation is much worse than it actually is
It is possible that an asteroid will crash into the Earth in the coming days, destroy a nuclear power plant or weapons facility, and trigger a chain of events that will lead to the destruction of almost all human life on the planet.
But it's very unlikely based on the best available evidence and so we do not hunker down in concrete bunkers carved into the sides of mountains with everything needed to survive a nuclear winter and restart human civilization later.
We roll the dice. The odds are with us.
Ditto for Covid-19 planning. It only makes sense to plan for the reasonable dangers and not every single possible far-fetched contingency.
In northern New Brunswick where there is only one case of Covid-19, the risk of catching the sickness through casual contact in public spaces is as close to zero as it can come without actually being zero.
That's why mandating face masks in public in northern New Brunswick at this time is idiotic. It would only fuel fear and anxiety and lead people to conclude the situation is much worse than it actually is
Fred Brewer
Reply to @James
Risdon: Show me the odds calculation James. Odds are not based on the
present, they are based on future probabilities and the outcome if
things go wrong. I have seen no calculations that says the odds show
that it is worth the risk that you would take.
James
Risdon
Reply
to @Fred Brewer: The odds of catching Covid-19 in a population where
no-one has Covid-19 are zero. You can't catch what's not there.
Currently, in the Bathurst area, there is one known case of Covid-19 and that person is self-isolating.
The onus is on the people who would try to curtail our civil liberties and impose restrictions on us to show those are fair and reasonable under the Emergency Measures Act.
I respectfully submit to you that one known case of Covid-19 that is self-isolating is not evidence of a great threat to the public safety of northern New Brunswickers deserving of forcing everyone to wear face masks in public.
We are social distancing. We are using hand sanitizer and washing our hands. We are staying in our Atlantic Bubble or self-isolating upon our return if we leave.
Context matters. In the current context, forcing everyone to wear face masks in public is idiotic and will only tie up our police forces who will be required to enforce these rules when they could be out solving real crimes.
Don't give our police officers busy work to do. They've already got real jobs.
Currently, in the Bathurst area, there is one known case of Covid-19 and that person is self-isolating.
The onus is on the people who would try to curtail our civil liberties and impose restrictions on us to show those are fair and reasonable under the Emergency Measures Act.
I respectfully submit to you that one known case of Covid-19 that is self-isolating is not evidence of a great threat to the public safety of northern New Brunswickers deserving of forcing everyone to wear face masks in public.
We are social distancing. We are using hand sanitizer and washing our hands. We are staying in our Atlantic Bubble or self-isolating upon our return if we leave.
Context matters. In the current context, forcing everyone to wear face masks in public is idiotic and will only tie up our police forces who will be required to enforce these rules when they could be out solving real crimes.
Don't give our police officers busy work to do. They've already got real jobs.
Amajor
Hall
Reply to @James
Risdon: ...and even better, the person wo has Covid is supposed to be
isolating which means that the only sick person in your region is not
even in public and therefore nobody is getting sick!
Fred Dee
Reply to @Amajor
Hall: supposed to!!!! that is one issue!! What about the next person
who is not fowling the protocol???!!! No masks would need to increased
cases... maybe death!!
David Amos
Reply to @Amajor Hall: True
Clive Gibbons
Reply to @Fred Dee: Or the next truck driver, or any other essential worker that comes on from Quebec?
June Arnott
No
matter what anyone says, you CANNOT social distance in a store.
Doesn’t happen EVER. So that would make masks mandatory in any store
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Go Figue
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @June Arnott:
Maybe you are neither big enough, or ugly enough, I am, and folks keep their distance from me.
Maybe you are neither big enough, or ugly enough, I am, and folks keep their distance from me.
Fred Dee
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: good for you.... maybe YOU should just stay home then!!! Make everyone else safer! lol
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I resemble that remark
JOhn D Bond
It
is quite amazing when reading the comments on the board, the number of
folks that think they will not be subject to the mandatory mask rules if
the government makes the rule a mandatory requirement.
While we are in a free democratic society, that means we either follow the rule of law or we face the consequences. Next election, you can extract your pound of flesh by not voting for the party that imposed the order, until then, To bad!
So for those die hard anti maskers ( excluding folks with medical conditions that would cause peril) get over yourself. You will not have a choice.
But yes, you can refuse, be fined, fight the fine in court and lose at the end of the day.
If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.
While we are in a free democratic society, that means we either follow the rule of law or we face the consequences. Next election, you can extract your pound of flesh by not voting for the party that imposed the order, until then, To bad!
So for those die hard anti maskers ( excluding folks with medical conditions that would cause peril) get over yourself. You will not have a choice.
But yes, you can refuse, be fined, fight the fine in court and lose at the end of the day.
If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: What rule of law?
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @David Amos: Government health order under the emergency measures act
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @JOhn D
Bond: go tell that to Matt Steele lol. I am in agreement with you and
you don't have to look any further than Nova Scotia to see people
complying. The minute this becomes law 95 percent of that bravado will
go away.
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D
Bond: Methinks Higgy et al forgot that 3 Justices of the Federal Court
of Appeal pulled Rule 55 on me years ago. That malicious direction
forever to proved to me that whereas judges can legally ignore the rules
then the rule of law does not exist N'esy Pas?
Bruce
Sanders
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: "You will not have a choice"
Sure we do, we leave and return when the lunacy ends.
"If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious."
Agreed, and it's hilarious the so many restrictions remain given the extensive data that now exists. The way the government is acting, one would think its still March.
Sure we do, we leave and return when the lunacy ends.
"If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious."
Agreed, and it's hilarious the so many restrictions remain given the extensive data that now exists. The way the government is acting, one would think its still March.
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @David Amos:
Except that the courts will rule in favour of the Provinces use of the
emergency act as they are acting in the Public good. While that may be
debatable and I am certain someone will challenge it. My point really
is, if the government issues the order, people that do not follow it
will face the consequences in the short term and will end up spending
time, money and effort in court to have the highest court of the land
eventually rule against the challenge. Just my opinion.
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Bruce
Sanders: Of course you can leave the province. Not sure where you will
go in Canada, they will likely be imposing the same restrictions and if
you want to go to the US , well by means I would never suggest that you
shouldn't that is your choice of course. Except that here in NB if the
order comes, your choice is temporarily suspended.
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Did you forget that I have permanent resident status in the US of A?
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: You do know who I am Correct?
Errol Willis
Reply to @David Amos: Enjoy yourself - don't let the door hit ya on the way out
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Is that why you're afraid to ever go back?
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @David Amos: Didn't know that but that is fine
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Where will you leave to? Ontario? Quebec? Drop us a note when you get back....if you get back.
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D
Bond: Perhaps you should look up Rule 55 of the Federal Court Rules
before you expound about "the rule of law" anymore?
JOhn D
Bond
Reply
to @David Amos: Don't need to this is not a grey issue nor do I have
any desire to become a lawyer. At the end of the day the courts will
rule for the provinces when it comes to public safety. So until this
type of what I believe to be nonsensical issue regarding compliance to
public health measures by residents in a province is before the supreme
court and they rule against the province ( which I do not believe will
happen) it is simply other peoples opinion which they are entitled to
but I do not share. Therefore I would expound at the top of my lungs
from the highest peak in the country as much as I care to.
David Amos
Reply
to @JOhn D Bond: My false imprisonment for political reasons is a
nonsensical issue to you Yea Right i bet you are not using your real
name
Fred Dee
Reply to @David Amos: remember. this guy loves to not follow the LAW. he is special
Fred Dee
Reply to @David Amos: then GO there!!
Fred Dee
Reply to @David Amos: yes... you are special, we all know that!
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee:
Methinks it was made clear me that your hero Higgy's "Peace Officers"
think I am kinda special after a couple malicious charges were "stayed "
after just one phone call land not too ong before Higgy had the writ
dropped. Meanwhile your heroes in the Fat Fred City Finest and their
RCMP buddies continue to play dumb for their benefit N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Fred Dee: BTW Is that your real name and why are you accusing me of being a criminal?JOhn D
Bond
Reply to @David Amos:
Well that is not nonsensical. But it is curious why or what would
motivate you to share something like that on a comment board when the
topic is about public health and the ongoing debate on masks. Nothing to
do with any of our pasts. Simply a current event issue we are all
dealing with.
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D
Bond: Trust that the RCMP are still harassing me because I am exposing
Higgy and his current malicious nonsense within the Police State he
created in order to secure a majority mandate because of the
unjustifiable worldwide fear of a virus. Many people everywhere are
being arrested for merely protesting these actions because nonsensical
people such as you are having too much fun instead of paying attention
while the economies crash Get it yet?
JOhn D
Bond
Reply
to @David Amos: Right.. a few thoughts, your attempts to expose Higgs
is not having much effect, he won the election. People are not being
arrested everywhere for protesting in NB and wow you are off base on
your last point.
val harris
Yes no no I mean no really I am just not sure. Higgs can really answer a question
David Amos
Reply to @val harris: He never could
Terry
Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Do you remember T shirts that you could once get that said "I'm with stupid"?
We should print up some blue ones that say "I voted stupid".
Do you remember T shirts that you could once get that said "I'm with stupid"?
We should print up some blue ones that say "I voted stupid".
David Amos
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: Yes you should In 1971 I was instantly smitten on Parlee Beach
by a sweet young lady from your old stomping grounds who wore a "Fuddle
Duddle" T Shirt Perhaps they would be a hit again?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: FYI in 2005 while Belinda was dumping Petey Baby and crossing the
floor to become a liberal cabinet minister a sneaky little liberal
working for the former MP for Miramichi at the time told me they were
selling my old company T shirts at a motorcycle show in Ottawa
Apparently they are collector's items and pone to being ripped off Marilyn Carr
Why?
If we had community cases but all cases are travel related....If there
was a significant uptick in cases I would see it but until that time I
dont think MANDATORY masks are needed.
David Amos
Reply to @Marilyn Carr: Everybody knows that mask don't work anyway
June
Arnott
Reply to @David Amos: they do when used properly to protect OTHERS I know, a hard concept thinking of others
David Amos
Reply to @June
Arnott: Methinks they can stop bacteria etc but any doctor should inform
you that a virus can go through a mask just tlike a mosquito can go
through a chain link fence N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @June Arnott:
Who am I protecting if I wear one? I'm not sick. And if I was sick, I would be home being sick, not out and about.
Who am I protecting if I wear one? I'm not sick. And if I was sick, I would be home being sick, not out and about.
Fred Dee
Reply to @David Amos:
really?? Those who ARE educated know THEY will HELP!!! ASK THE
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WHO LIVE WITH IT EVERY DAY!!!
Fred Dee
Reply to @David Amos: actually no... you are wrong. AS USUAL! TALK to those who understand who things work!!!
Fred Dee
Reply to @Terry
Tibbs: actually it is likely you would be spreading before you would be
symptomatic!! And maybe you would never be symptomatic!! You could go
visit your parents... and end up KILLING them!! Wear a mask!
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee: I
should talk to the RCMP in order ask why you are permitted to accuse me
of being a criminal etc. Methinks its best that put it writing and
publish it just as you have done N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Fred Dee: Speaking of killing have you listened to the wiretap tapes of the mob that i gave the RCMP in 2004?
James Smythe
Mandatory or not, I won’t be wearing a mask Blaine, this is just getting silly at this point.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @James
Smythe: I thank you for adding to NB's coffers with the fines you will
be paying. But hey, you can always hide in your basement.
Gerry Ferguson
Reply to @James Smythe: That makes 2 of us
charles davis livitus
Reply to @James Smythe: I don't
Jeffrey
Finnamore
Reply to @James Smythe: absolutely agree. Still our choice
David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: I concur
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Jeffrey
Finnamore: ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching. With this much civil
disobedience, the fines alone will help stabilize our finances.
Errol Willis
Reply to @James
Smythe: Such a rebel you are. Why are you so afraid of a piece of cloth
on your face? And don't start with "my rights and freedoms..."
David Amos
Reply to @Errol Willis: Are you afraid of rebels?
Errol Willis
Reply to @David Amos:
I more afraid of ignorance and stupidity - very common here. My rights,
my freedoms, my life - what a bunch of whiners. If they were ever asked
to do anything significant, what would they do?
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Errol Willis: It IS about rights and freedoms.
Errol Willis
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: How silly and childish you are
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man:
Reply to @Errol Willis: Your opinion.
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Fred Brewer: We sure could use it, hopefully it will rake in enough to hire a few dozen doctors
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @JOhn D Bond:
That wouldn't change they would still refuse to pay them.
That wouldn't change they would still refuse to pay them.
David Amos
Reply to @Errol Willis: Do you consider me one of them?
JOhn D
Bond
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Lol Terry that actually make me chuckle.. Good one you could be right on the money with that.
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D
Bond: Do you chuckle at the fact that IDavid Amos have to pay
emergency room bills and doctor fees because Higgy et al have a "stay"
on my right to a Medicare card?
Fred Brewer
I
am definitely going to do this... well maybe I am going to do this.... I
think I will do this... and eventually..... I have decided not to do
this (for now).
This is the old tried and true Higgy Waffle Dance. How many times has he done this before? He Waffle Danced his way around Hospital ER closures and a bunch of other things that don't come to mind at this moment but I am sure some folks out there can help me out. Can you name any other Higgy Waffle Dances?
This is the old tried and true Higgy Waffle Dance. How many times has he done this before? He Waffle Danced his way around Hospital ER closures and a bunch of other things that don't come to mind at this moment but I am sure some folks out there can help me out. Can you name any other Higgy Waffle Dances?
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Cry me a river
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Not fit to lead a boy scout troop.
Not fit to lead a boy scout troop.
Murray Brown
Should have told us before the election... Then we could have voted him out.
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Murray Brown: I didn't vote for him this time, simply because he seems like another UN stooge.
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @Murray Brown: I didn't vote for him or Liberals. Would be a cold day before I would ever vote either.
David Amos
Reply to @Murray Brown: YUP
Fred Dee
Reply to @David Amos: and who would you support?? besides yourself?
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee: I supported Jim Traficant but no other politician before or since
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee: Is that you real name?
Lorelei Stott
now that Higg's won a majority look out.... power tripping
David Amos
Reply to @Lorelei Stott: Welcome to the Circus
Michel
Forgeron
Top 5 excuses for not wearing a mask:
5-You already have something that protects you from others called “your personality.”
4-You want to try one of those cool new ventilators at the hospital.
3-You’re a millennial, and you got tired of constantly having to remove your mask to take your 5,000 daily selfies.
2-It makes it hard to use the breathalyzer that starts your car.
1-You’re a Kardashian. What’s one more virus?
5-You already have something that protects you from others called “your personality.”
4-You want to try one of those cool new ventilators at the hospital.
3-You’re a millennial, and you got tired of constantly having to remove your mask to take your 5,000 daily selfies.
2-It makes it hard to use the breathalyzer that starts your car.
1-You’re a Kardashian. What’s one more virus?
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: #6 having a real health condition that’s enables wearing one.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Hmmm. A health condition that enables someone to wear a mask? Oh, I know. Its called common sense
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: #1, there is no definitive proof a face mask makes lone bit of difference
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Say Hey to your hero Higgy for me will ya?
Michel
Forgeron
Reply to @David Amos: Higgs isn't my hero, you are
David Amos
Reply to @Michel
Forgeron: Yea Right that why you and you buddies laughed at Higgy et al
denying me the the right to free Health Care while i was constantly
visiting the emergency rooms and having to pay for their services and
the doctor fees
Michel
Forgeron
Reply to @David Amos:
I've never laughed at you David. I (and others) asked you a simple
question which I don't believe you have ever answered - why don't you
have a Medicare card?
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: I answered many times There is no reason it was and still is politics
Michel
Forgeron
Reply to @David Amos: How so, exactly?
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Ask Higgy i told you many times they won't give me a reason
David Amos
Reply to @Michel
Forgeron: FYI This malicious nonsense has been going on since 2005 when i
got suuck here after running for a seat parliament the second time.They
bared me from collecting my CPP until I sued the Queen in 2015 while
running for public office again but still don'thave my passport drivers
license or social insurance numbe Hence i am about to sue the Crown
again
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: FYI I just told you again
Stephan
Sommers
Reply to @Fred Brewer: bahahaha that shows y0ur level of education. Thanks for the laugh.
Fred Dee
Reply to @Stephan
Sommers: actually there are VERY FEW conditions that stop people from
wearing masks. If you can not wear a mask due to a medical condition...
you should NOT be going out !!!
Fred Dee
Reply to @Bruce Sanders: wow. can you not READ??
Fred Dee
Reply to @David Amos: just go to the US!!!
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Dee: You need a lawyer
Michel
Forgeron
Reply to @David Amos: I don't know the reasons for these refusals, but thank you for clarifying. I hope it works out for you.
Matt Steele
It
makes little difference . The people who accept wearing a face mask ,
are already wearing them ; and those not currently wearing a mask ,
will never accept wearing one . Higgs had better hire 50,000 more cops
as those 911 lines will be busy....lol .
David
Peters
Reply to @Matt Steele:
...if masks were effective at stopping the spread of a virus, and were known to not do more harm than good, then why weren't healthcare professionals suggesting ppl wear them all along?
...if masks were effective at stopping the spread of a virus, and were known to not do more harm than good, then why weren't healthcare professionals suggesting ppl wear them all along?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Peters: They were . You just weren't listening !!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: And pay attention !!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Matt Steele: Only 20 % don't know better . it won' take " 50,000 cops " to monitor 150,000 people !
David
Peters
Reply to @Lou Bell:
No, they weren't. No one was wearing masks before this virus scare...many, many actual medical doctors totally disagree with the political propaganda you continue to push.
No, they weren't. No one was wearing masks before this virus scare...many, many actual medical doctors totally disagree with the political propaganda you continue to push.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @David
Peters: Your question has been answered on MSM multiple times but I
guess you get your news elsewhere. Due to the extreme shortage of masks,
asking the public to wear them would have meant there would be none
left for frontline workers who are the most at risk of catching covid.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Matt Steele: Go spend a day in Halifax. You'll prove yourself wrong.
JOhn D
Bond
Reply to @David
Peters: You may want to read up on the advice from the Doctors that are
running the health departments in major hospitals and the officials from
the provincial health departments.They are all saying it. Those those
that are not are a minority and or are talking about when it is
inappropriate to wear masks. Luckily for the majority of us. It is the
health officials and the government that get to make the rules. We
elected them. So don't wear them at your own peril. Don't be surprised
if you get asked to leave places and fined by the government for
disobeying a lawful order.
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks you should try telling us something we did not already know N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: BINGO
Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: I don't think this is lawful.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man: You are free to hire a lawyer and challenge the
law if you wish but you better have deep pockets and you better be
prepared to lose your court case and pay the government's cost of
defending the law suit you bring.
Craig Robinson
Reply to @JOhn D
Bond: Government exists in the world of legality. Legal and lawful are
not functionally equivalent. Nothing about this is lawful.
Jeff
LeBlanc
Masks for some. Tiny Canadian flags for others?
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Miniature Canadian Flags!
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Then there is always the option for Maritimers who are serious
about protecting their rights while trapped within Higgy's Police State
to file lawsuits in Federal Court in Fat Fred City
Methinks everybody knows we don't need Teddy Flemming's permission to sue the Crown in that court N'esy Pas?
Methinks everybody knows we don't need Teddy Flemming's permission to sue the Crown in that court N'esy Pas?
jay lett
all
this... to protect the weak and the frail... those who have already
lived there lives, and are due to drift off to there mortal coil,
regardless of covid... the "gimmie gimmie" generation spent there lives
kneecapping those who will follow after them... cant really say im
surprised that they are burning down the house, because they know they
will never re enter it
Any continued success, although it’s hard to beat 0, will no doubt be put down to the efficacy of the masks, so what’s the threshold to lift the mandate? Fully distributing a tried and tested vaccine is by most accounts, a ways off. Does every other province need to have 0 local cases just like us? In a country the size of Canada, we’re not talking about a couple of months. It may sound like I'm escalating to the point of being ridiculous, but do I have to wear a mask for the rest of my life? I'm just wondering where it ends. Whether it's covid or something else, there is always the risk of a healthy person passing on a virus to the elderly or immuno-compromised.
In NB, I thought we’d found the right balance between restrictions and reasonably mitigating risk to the most vulnerable, but apparently not. I look to the success that similarly populated states in Australia have had in lifting restrictions (much more than we have), yet they’ve remained vigilant with quarantine requirements on travel from other areas of the country witnessing case spikes. Given our similar success over the last few months, why can't we do the same? If we continue with this 'just in case' way of thinking, the situation will never be deemed safe enough to reverse these measures.
Steven
Mallaley
Reply to @jay lett:
They are worth protecting. But at the same time too we need to be wary
of the mental health effects on people. I feel overall mental health has
been ignored. Release and drug abuse has increased by 30% since this
all went down and it can only get worse the longer it goes on.
And again before someone loses their mind...the old and the weak are worth protecting. We just need to not forget the rest.
And again before someone loses their mind...the old and the weak are worth protecting. We just need to not forget the rest.
Dan
Franklin
Reply to @jay lett:
If you think this is just to protect the weak and frail, you're gravely
mistaken. This virus is pretty dangerous and we still don't understand
it's full effects and long-term effects. But you seem to know all about
it.
Steven
Mallaley
Reply to @Dan
Franklin: We can't assume it has long term effects either because it has
not been long enough to assume so. Overall the virus is not dangerous
to MOST people but dangerous to some.
It's funny that people agree that we don't fully understand the virus yet but assume right away there is long term complications. Blows my mind.
It's funny that people agree that we don't fully understand the virus yet but assume right away there is long term complications. Blows my mind.
Christopher
Harborne
Reply to @Steven
Mallaley: Given there are more than a handful of accounts of people who
had COVID back in April/May that are still dealing with complications,
it's not just an outlier.
What's easier, dealing with swathes of people with long term health damage, or wearing a small piece of fabric on your face?
What's easier, dealing with swathes of people with long term health damage, or wearing a small piece of fabric on your face?
Steven
Mallaley
Reply to @Christopher
Harborne: The small piece of fabric of course I would never argue that.
But if you think masks are 100% foolproof against the virus you are
terribly mistaken. And the accounts of 1% of people does not apply to
the masses. 1 person has long term issues and 10,000 more don't we can't
just say there is long terms conditions. You are just fear mongering if
you assume every infected case has long term damage when the majority
just has mild symptoms. And I am not saying this to ignore the severe
cases that do either...
Also Pneumonia having lung scarring is very common which happens in the severe cases of the virus.
Also Pneumonia having lung scarring is very common which happens in the severe cases of the virus.
David Peters
Reply to @jay lett:
There's a lot of truth in that, albeit an ugly truth.
There's a lot of truth in that, albeit an ugly truth.
Steve
Cohen
Reply to @Steven
Mallaley: We can assume it has long term effects without sufficient
time, because that's what "to assume" means.
Steven
Mallaley
Reply to @Steve
Cohen: Then you need to clarify that it's an assumption and not a
"Guarantee". People spread this information all the time and now
thousands of people think everyone who gets sick even the ones who don't
know it have long term damage.
Clarification is very important.
Clarification is very important.
Lou Bell
Reply to @jay lett:
Says the self entitled " me , me , me " generation ! You know the
generation playing video games all day in their basement , not
mentioning any names , JAY !
jay lett
Reply to @Lou Bell:
kids.... thats what they do... would you rather them doing the
charleston, and puffing cigs, like kids did in your prime?
Kat Jo
Reply to @jay lett:
Wow! I'm sure your grandparents and parents would be happy to know how
you feel. What a selfish person you are, I pity you.
Mike Arsenalut
Don't forget Stud,
some of those weak and frail are the ones who fought so hard for your
freedom, which lets you come on here and spout your selfish remarks. I'd
like to see you back then doing what they did for us. I'd bet you'd
gladly put on a mask for their sake. Your whats wrong with society
today.
David Amos
Reply to @Kat Jo: I pity you
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks Higgy et al would love to know what you have to say about our
generation that makes us an less greedy N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks Higgy et al know that among my first words during my debate
with his buddy Rob Moore in Sussex in June of 2004 I apologized for my
generation because many of us had become the type of people we had once
protested. You can't deny that some of what I said was quoted in the
Irving sin doctors and pick up by other newsrags as well N'esy Pas?
Matt Andrews
New
Brunswick was an example of why masks were not necessary in combating
Covid-19 when effective social distancing and quarantine policies were
in place. 0 community transmission cases for months. There was
repeated talk of the threats posed by opening up to the Atlantic
provinces, summer gatherings, students going back to school, cases
spiking in other provinces. We weathered all of these risks without a
single community case, but still that wasn't good enough. Any continued success, although it’s hard to beat 0, will no doubt be put down to the efficacy of the masks, so what’s the threshold to lift the mandate? Fully distributing a tried and tested vaccine is by most accounts, a ways off. Does every other province need to have 0 local cases just like us? In a country the size of Canada, we’re not talking about a couple of months. It may sound like I'm escalating to the point of being ridiculous, but do I have to wear a mask for the rest of my life? I'm just wondering where it ends. Whether it's covid or something else, there is always the risk of a healthy person passing on a virus to the elderly or immuno-compromised.
In NB, I thought we’d found the right balance between restrictions and reasonably mitigating risk to the most vulnerable, but apparently not. I look to the success that similarly populated states in Australia have had in lifting restrictions (much more than we have), yet they’ve remained vigilant with quarantine requirements on travel from other areas of the country witnessing case spikes. Given our similar success over the last few months, why can't we do the same? If we continue with this 'just in case' way of thinking, the situation will never be deemed safe enough to reverse these measures.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Matt Andrews:
Why you ask?
Because the majority got their chance to vote stupid.
And now we are getting an abundance of stupid.
Why you ask?
Because the majority got their chance to vote stupid.
And now we are getting an abundance of stupid.
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Andrews: Methinks Higgy and his cohorts ignore facts if they don't suit their personal agenda N'esy Pas?
fred buddy
98%
of the population recovered from co-vid, 70 age group+ 94% recovered.
94% of "co-vid" deaths had strong comorbidity factors (cancer, heart
attacks). All CDC stats. Paper masks and rags don't protect from
viruses, it says so on the box/garment but they do reduce oxygen
saturation. P.C. enough for you?
Spacing is important. Blocking spittle even more with a virus best adapted to airborne spread. Numbers extraordinary low for us in bubble so yeah some question why now masks. But we are getting closer together again especially in business areas, restaurants etc. Its half a year or so till maybe daylight for vaccines. Chill , zen , flow with it. Halloween and xmas will not disappear indefinitely. Have some decency for 50% of population at higher risk. They got you here. They did not cause this. They went through worse in ww2
Jeff
LeBlanc
Reply to @fred buddy:
Well there you go. Its about protecting the 2 and 6 percent that didn't
recover. Thanks for pointing out precisely why one should wear a mask
and practice social distancing, even know that was not your intention.
Dan Franklin
Reply to @fred buddy:
The CDC is under immense pressure from a President who has admittedly
downplayed the danger of the virus. The CDC at this time is not the most
reliable source. Research numbers from more independent health
organizations.
Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Isolate and have THOSE people wear masks then, don't impose it
on the rest of us who wish to live 'normal' lives.
Masks are a symbol of submission to the NWO anyways.
Masks are a symbol of submission to the NWO anyways.
Jeff
LeBlanc
Reply to @Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man: Sorry but there is no such thing as normal
anymore and might I add what a selfish cold thing to post.
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Prove me wrong.
I think it's selfish to make people wear face diapers because of irrational fears.
I think it's selfish to make people wear face diapers because of irrational fears.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: 'hat a selfish cold thing to post."
I will watch for your vocal support of the efforts to reduce all speed limits by 50%. This will save lives.
I will watch for your vocal support of the efforts to reduce all speed limits by 50%. This will save lives.
David Amos
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: Me Too
Ian Scott
Ever
watched someone talk normally but they are in relief to the sunlight
and shadows? You will see the fine spittle that comes from mouth for a
foot or so. Thats normal talk. There is personal space that most people
like for visual seeing and just human space, but its too close for virus
spread that goes further when airborne. You know when someone gets to
close to talk, you get that feeling right? In China and other places
its common to see masks on people with flu or colds for common decency
and for good reason. It blocks one pathway. Surfaces for viruses are the
other, using common pens, karyoke mikes , etc now well seen to be an
issue. Its like bartenders in cuba touching multiple surfaces with bar
taps for Hepatitis A outbreaks. Spacing is important. Blocking spittle even more with a virus best adapted to airborne spread. Numbers extraordinary low for us in bubble so yeah some question why now masks. But we are getting closer together again especially in business areas, restaurants etc. Its half a year or so till maybe daylight for vaccines. Chill , zen , flow with it. Halloween and xmas will not disappear indefinitely. Have some decency for 50% of population at higher risk. They got you here. They did not cause this. They went through worse in ww2
Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Ian Scott: So you want to take an RNA vaccine that makes you a GMO human?
Go for it, ...we'll just sit back and watch you mutate.
Go for it, ...we'll just sit back and watch you mutate.
David Amos
Reply to @Mighty
Mediocre Mediocre Man: Methinks you are afraid that the GMO humans may
wish to mutilate you Hence you are breaking the rules and using a
ridiculous name N'esy Pas?
Jeff LeBlanc
Donald Trump doesn't wear a mask and he got the Covid. Just saying...
That should make your decision easier
Dave
Shimla
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: this is canada...how is that relevant, Im not wearing a mask and I do not have covid. Just saying...
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Dave
Shimla: Wow I had no idea that we can't catch Covid in Canada and
therefore no mask is needed! You just saved me some money! Thank you!
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: You can wear a mask and still get COVID. The mask helps but
it's not a fool proof protection. Even social distancing which is the
most effective measure at preventing virus spread is not guaranteed to
prevent spread.
This is all about reducing overall virus transfer not preventing it entirely.
This is all about reducing overall virus transfer not preventing it entirely.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Steven Mallaley: Ya don't say....
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Excuse me for assuming that you knew everything. Especially
since you assumed Trump got COVID from not wearing a mask.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Steven Mallaley: Hence why I put just saying...a term that seems lost on you.
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Thanks for assuming that I don't know what that term means. I am obviously less educated then you.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Steven Mallaley: well you're not helping your own cause
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Because I correct the mistakes in your posts because you assume
masks are the best thing on Earth? I am someone who supports masks but
also knows they are not the safety feature people think they are.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Steven
Mallaley: You corrected nothing. You just assumed I didn't know that one
can catch covid while wearing a mask. You proceeded to preach to me
something I already knew. You also assumed that I concluded that Trumps
diagnosis was due to no mask when in fact I put the words "just saying"
after it. Then when I questioned if you knew what that was implying you
got on the defensive and tried to dig yourself out of it.
David Amos
Reply to @Steven Mallaley @Jeff LeBlanc: Methinks many no doubt would agree that you two should get a room N'esy Pas?
Marc LeBlanc
I haven't been in an Irving station in six months as they don't have a mask required policy That should make your decision easier
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Marc LeBlanc: Lol good one
charles
davis livitus
Reply to @Marc LeBlanc: I haven't worn a mask yet, you want business you got my maskless face.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @charles
davis livitus: Well get ready to severely limit your shopping and dining
options just because you're spiteful. Have fun ordering your food
online and not eating in a restaurant or trying on your own clothes, etc
etc.
Dave
Shimla
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: how do you dine with a mask on?
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Dave
Shimla: You don't. You keep your mask on until you get to your table. If
you need to use the restroom the mask goes back on. All the tables are
spaced out and seating is limited. You should get out more.
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @Marc
LeBlanc: I been supporting my Irving station for months now. Not because
of masks but because it is conveniently close by lol
Matt
Steele
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: .......Do you actually think that businesses are going to be
enforcing a mask policy ; and risk upsetting the customer . I was in
Walmart yesterday , and even though Walmart gives out free masks , about
40% of the customers were walking around with no mask , or a mask
pulled down to their chin .
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Matt
Steele: Yesterday masks were not regulated by the government. You
obviously haven't ventured to Nova Scotia recently. Everyone and I
literally mean everyone wears masks. So yes Matt yes I think businesses
will enforce just like NS is currently doing.
Christopher Harborne
Reply to @Matt Steele: That doesn't make those people either right, or smart...
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Marc LeBlanc: I'll have to make sure I visit them more often then, I now am a dedicated Sobey's guy now as well.
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @charles
davis livitus: Guess you will have no where to spend your money. Which
is good as after the pandemic the government will be looking for sources
of revenue to tax. Better hid it
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: That's idiocy, mask on, mask off.
Have some common sense.
Masks are for show.
Have some common sense.
Masks are for show.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: alright muting you now. Bye.
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Yeah, bye.
David Amos
Reply to @Marc
LeBlanc: Methinks Higgy and his Irving buddies no doubt know why the
Couche-Tard.dudes don't miss your business but I bet you have no clue
N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: So you say but is that legal
David Amos
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: Methinks that one form of mutilation that rather rough on tr o llls N'esy Pas?
Ray Bungay
Because
we are both in our 70's, my wife and I ordered masks in late May and
have worn them every time we go to get groceries. We both have two
underlying helth issues so for us wearing them are a no brainer.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Ray Bungay: I promise if you see me out and about I'll have mine on too and will keep a respectful distance.
Christopher Harborne
Reply to @Ray Bungay:
Thanks for doing your part, I wear mine to protect those in your age
and health demographics especially. Stay safe!
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Good, ...keep away from me too.
Wear your act of submission to the UN face diaper to yourself.
Wear your act of submission to the UN face diaper to yourself.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: Don't worry I stay away from Tim Hortons and internet cafes so you won't see me.
Mary
MacKenzie
Reply to @Ray Bungay:
I'm glad you're wearing them but I'm hoping that you also understand
that wearing them doesn't protect you, they protect others. Others need
to wear masks to protect you.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Mary
MacKenzie: that's not true at all. If you speak moistly and I am wearing
a mask, the mask will block some (not all) of the moistness. Therefore
increasing my chance of your moistness not entering my bloodstream. Do
not say it only protects the other person because that is a dangerous
falsity that many people believe is true.
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Mary MacKenzie: BS, have you ever seen the mask smoke test?
Get yourself a chaulking gun with a tube of silicone sealant, that might help.
Get yourself a chaulking gun with a tube of silicone sealant, that might help.
David Amos
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: Methinks you are flogging a dead horse but Tr o lls must have their fun N'esy Pas?
Matt Steele
It
will do little good as the more the govt. tries to force mask use , the
more resistance there will be to it . Just like when Higgs puppet boy
, Dominic Cardy , tried to push forced vaccinations on children ; and
people pushed back on it . It seems that Higgs is a slow learner , and
he should be focusing on keeping the borders closed , and international
travel more closely monitored .
Graham
McCormack
Reply to @Matt Steele: There is no harm in wearing a mask for a short period of time, people who refuse are simply ignorant.
Matt Steele
Reply to @Graham
McCormack: .....It makes zero difference as many people will simply not
comply . The reason why , or why not , makes little difference .
Christopher
Harborne
Reply to @Matt Steele: Then fine their selfish behinds.
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Christopher
Harborne: Matt talks all this defiance nonsense but once it's mandatory
alot of that bravado will go away. I spend 2 days in Halifax, was in
restaurants and Ikea and a bunch of bars. Not a single maskless person
in sight. Then i was in Cape Breton last week for 3 days. Again not a
maskless person to be seen.
Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man
Reply to @Graham McCormack: WHO is ignorant?
David Amos
Reply to @Mighty Mediocre Mediocre Man: Methinks THE WHO is worse than merely ignorant N'esy Pas?
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