Thursday, 9 August 2018

Why does CBC care what Petey Baby MacKay thinks about anything?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-senator-apologizes-liberal-mp-tweet-1.4779161 

Conservative senator apologizes for tweet citing Liberal MP's Saudi background


Denise Batters' tweet, which she deleted, has led to calls for her resignation





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Peter MacKay on Halifax Forum, US-Canada Relations & Political Future
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Published on Nov 28, 2017

Peter MacKay, Canada's former foreign affairs, defense and justice
minister and founder of the Halifax International Security Forum who
is now with the Baker McKenzie law firms, discusses the importance of
the forum, US-Canada relations, causes he's championing and his
political future. MacKay spoke with the Defense & Aerospace Report at
the 2017 Halifax International Security Forum in Nova Scotia, Canada.
Check out our website: http://www.defaeroreport.com

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Thursday, 9 August 2018

Why does CBC care what Petey Baby MacKay thinks about anything?

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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:39:17 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Minister Jean-Yves.Duclos Once again you
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:24:42 -0400
Subject: Re "At the Crossroads of Hope and Fear" Yo Mr Graves we just
talked say Hey to your buddy Petey Baby MacKay and Trump/s lawyer
Mikey Cohen for me will ya?
To: fgraves@ekos.com, "PETER.MACKAY" <PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.com>,
mdcohen212 <mdcohen212@gmail.com>, david@policyalternatives.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
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"Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>

Wednesday, 1 August 2018

The confusion of the CCPA and the CBC is well known when it comes to
matters of money N'esy Pas?

"Ekos founder and president Frank Graves says the rejection of
inheritance tax is just one part of a wider phenomenon demonstrated in
his polling. He pointed to the election of Doug Ford as premier in
Ontario as an example of its impact. Most of Ford's supporters
declared themselves to be working class."

http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2018/02/at-the-crossroads-of-hope-and-fear/

At the Crossroads of Hope and Fear
THE NEW AXIS OF SOCIETAL TENSION

Frank Graves
President EKOS Research
t: 613.235-7215
fgraves@ekos.com



https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/inheritance-tax-canada-1.4771304

An attempt to understand Canada's inheritance tax backlash: Don Pittis
Roar of objections to imposing death duties on Canadians may have complex roots

Don Pittis · CBC News · Posted: Aug 07, 2018 4:00 AM ET


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-senator-apologizes-liberal-mp-tweet-1.4779161


Conservative senator apologizes for tweet citing Liberal MP's Saudi background

Denise Batters' tweet, which she deleted, has led to calls for her resignation


Senator Denise Batters experienced a backlash on social media over what some have interpreted as a racist tweet about Liberal MP Omar Alghabra. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Conservative Sen. Denise Batters apologized to Liberal MP Omar Alghabra Thursday for her choice of words in what some interpreted as a racist tweet.

"My intent was to suggest Mr. Alghabra's experience living in Saudi Arabia would give him unique insight about the difficult situation in which Canada and KSA find themselves," Batters wrote today in a follow-up to an earlier tweet questioning why Alghabra appeared on CBC's Power and Politics to address the diplomatic conflict with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

"I absolutely did not intend to suggest that Mr. Alghabra's birthplace or background has any impact on his ability to represent Canadians on this, or any issue. That is not what I believe, nor what I meant to convey.

"I apologize to Mr. Alghabra and to Canadians for my choice of words."
Batters deleted her tweet shortly after issuing the apology.


 
Senator Denise Batters said on Twitter that it may have been "interesting" for Power & Politics host Vassy Kapelos to ask Liberal MP Omar Alghabra whether "his birthplace being #SaudiArabia impacts this file for him." (Twitter)
Alghabra tweeted shortly after Batter's post that he accepted her apology. "As the Senator told me, 'this is a lesson to all of us,'" said Alghabra.




Alghabra, who is a parliamentary secretary to Minister of Foreign Affairs Chrystia Freeland, appeared on Power & Politics Wednesday to discuss the ongoing diplomatic spat between Canada and Saudi Arabia.

Shortly after his appearance, Batters retweeted a clip of the interview, accusing the Mississauga MP of using government talking points and saying it may have been "interesting" for host Vassy Kapelos to ask Alghabra whether his birthplace "impacts this file for him."

"Another day, another Liberal MP put up by #Trudeau govt in national media simply to spout #PMOTalkingPoints & answer zero questions. #WhyNoMinister? With this MP on #pnpcbc, may have been interesting to ask him whether his birthplace being #SaudiArabia impacts this file for him," tweeted Batters.

Alghabra was born in Saudi Arabia to a Syrian family.

In response, Alghabra tweeted, "Senator, I'm a proud Canadian who is consistent in defending human rights. How about you?"





 Batters replied to Alghabra, saying she meant no offence and that she simply thought Alghabra would have "a unique perspective to offer."



Senator, I’m a proud Canadian who is consistent in defending human rights. How about you? https://twitter.com/denisebatters/status/1027312704057311232 
Absolutely. No offence meant. Just thought you have a unique perspective to offer. We are all so lucky to live in Canada, where human rights are valued.


The exchange quickly caught fire online, with several Twitter users condemning Batters. Liberal MP Adam Vaughan described the tweet as "straight up xenophobic bigotry" and called on Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer to expel Batters from caucus.

"Casual racism from a sitting senator. Unacceptable," tweeted Michael Solberg, son of former Conservative MP Monte Solberg.

"It is truly a sad day for the Senate, Canadian Politics and the country as a whole," said Twitter user Ray Leech. "You have the privilege of being a member of the Senate. It's the Upper Chamber not a Trump rally."






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I can't help but wonder if anyone understands why the lawyers Brian Mosher Rob Moore Peter MacKay and I have hated each other with a passion for years? Do tell did anyone even read Statement 83 YET?




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Peter MacKay on Halifax Forum, US-Canada Relations & Political Future

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Published on Nov 28, 2017
Peter MacKay, Canada's former foreign affairs, defense and justice minister and founder of the Halifax International Security Forum who is now with the Baker McKenzie law firms, discusses the importance of the forum, US-Canada relations, causes he's championing and his political future. MacKay spoke with the Defense & Aerospace Report at the 2017 Halifax International Security Forum in Nova Scotia, Canada. Check out our website: http://www.defaeroreport.com





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"So far, Canada's closest allies — the United States and the United Kingdom — have issued rather tepid statements and are refusing to condemn the Saudi actions."  




https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-fix-big-mistake-saudi-foreign-minister-1.4777438


Trudeau rebuffs Saudi call for an apology as diplomatic spat escalates




Politics News
'It's disappointing - there's no question'

00:00 07:37


Former Defence Minister Peter MacKay joins Power & Politics to discuss the ongoing deterioration in relations between Canada and Saudi Arabia. 7:37



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David Amos
David Amos
Methinks there is something rather obvious the Saudi's fail to understand. Canadians can be quite stubborn and don't follow orders from people who abuse their fellow human beings. The Saudi's can't eat gold or drink oil. We have enough of both so we don't need any of theirs. There are other countries we can sell our food products to and there are lots of other wannabe doctors from other countries who no doubt would love to attend our universities. I have no doubt whatsoever that somebody will buy their investments in Canada and we won't miss their friendship or diplomats either. Most importantly most Canadians and our Ladies in particular don't give two hoots whether or not Peter MacKay's buddies can sell military toys to the Saudi's N'esy Pas?


Robbie Adams
Robbie Adams
@David Amos ..""""Canadians can be quite stubborn and don't follow orders from people who abuse their fellow human beings."""

In this case replace stubborn with stu pid


David Amos
David Amos
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@Robbie Adams Methinks we should make a deal What say you should speak for you and your friends. I will speak for me and mine.  I know my friends can be quite stubborn but NONE of them are stupid However I can't speak for yours N'esy Pas? 



Robbie Adams 
Robbie Adams
One thing for certain Freeland has stirred up a hornet's nest for Canada by making a tweet about her friend's husband in Saudi prison.. These dissidents will not be released anytime soon and who knows what their treatment will be like now.
We have Ambassadors for a reason. The proper procedure would have been to approach the Saudi Ambassador requesting a meeting to discuss the matter in a diplomatic way. But no the Trudeau mob like to go on Twitter / Television and make a mockery just like they did with Trump.

Wonder how many people will lose their jobs over this and how much will it cost Canada.
Notice no other countries backing us up. All silent... Thanks Liberals


David Amos
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David Amos 
@Robbie Adams Methinks the Saudi's fix their Twitter mistakes in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/saudi-arabia-canada-oil-supplies-jailed-activists-1.4778749

"The Saudi government's Center for International Communication (CIC) posted a tweet late on Wednesday saying "neither the government nor the Central Bank or the state pension fund has issued any instructions regarding the sale of Canadian assets."

But it promptly deleted the post without providing an explanation. CIC did not respond to a request for comment."



Bill Jones 
Bill Jones
Canada needs to 'fix its big mistake,'

They can seriously say this with a straight face after reports of them publicly crucifying someone today.




David Amos
David Amos
@Bill Jones Methinks except for MacKay and his arms dealing buddies not many Maritimers would suffer from lack of trade with the Saudi's N'esy Pas?


David Amos
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David Amos 
 @Bill Jones Methinks the Saudi's fix their Twitter mistakes in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/saudi-arabia-canada-oil-supplies-jailed-activists-1.4778749

"The Saudi government's Center for International Communication (CIC) posted a tweet late on Wednesday saying "neither the government nor the Central Bank or the state pension fund has issued any instructions regarding the sale of Canadian assets."

But it promptly deleted the post without providing an explanation. CIC did not respond to a request for comment."




Bill Jones
Charles Griffin
Oooo....the Saudi's are upset.

What are we to do.

Wait, I know....nothing.

I'd like to see them to try and start growing wheat in their desert.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Charles Griffin I agree. So what if Trudeau and his minions made a political Faux Pas with a Tweet nobody said much about the big deal about all the military stuff being sold to them under Harper's watch and supported by Trudeau. Why be friends with such nasty wackos just because they are wealthy? Not everyone believes in the evil person's Golden Rule which is "He With The Gold Makes The Rule"

Trust that whatever MacKay says about anything I would not trust but is truly comical to me to see his opinion solicited by CBC.

Methinks this portion of this "News" article is the most telling thing N'esy Pas?

"So far, Canada's closest allies — the United States and the United Kingdom — have issued rather tepid statements and are refusing to condemn the Saudi actions."



steve wilson
steve wilson
@David Amos ... Faux Pas? What faux pas? You think it is wrong to have openly criticized the Saudis? The people who publicly maim and behead those that transgress their mid-evil sensibilities????

Wow .......

David Amos
David Amos
@steve wilson Methinks a Minister of Foreign Affairs should be well aware of who the Saudi's are by now N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos 
@Charles Griffin "I'd like to see them to try and start growing wheat in their desert."

Hmmm

Row over jailed activists won't affect oil shipments to Canada, Saudi minister says

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/saudi-arabia-canada-oil-supplies-jailed-activists-1.4778749

Methinks we should stop buying the Saudi's oil everybody knows the Irvings in New Brunswick and everybody else can get all the oil they need from Venezuela the same country that NB Power sued in New York years ago for a very strange reason N'esy Pas?








Ted Nesbitt 
Ted Nesbitt
Let's take this opportunity to get off Saudi blood oil and open up all of Canada to Alberta and Western Oil.....



Michael Murphy
Michael Murphy
@Hird Kerry Another Conservative clueless that Energy East was destined for Asia, never Canada


Robert Lee
Robert Lee
@Ted Nesbitt

I read an article just yesterday how Western Select Canadian crude is being sold at a $25 dollar discount. At $65 bucks US a barrel for West Texas Intermediate that's just slightly over half price.
I wouln't mind getting that discount at the pumps.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/wti-wcs-gmp-dwarkin-rseg-oil-1.4491527


Jack O Hill
Jack O Hill
@Michael Murphy

" Another Conservative clueless that Energy East was destined for Asia, never Canada"

This from someone who does not understand that 350,000 bbl/day were destined for a refinery in Montreal.

I guess you think Montreal is in Asia, somewhere.

Dan Reid
Dan Reid
@Michael Murphy Asia would be buying from a west pipeline not east. regardless why stop a pipeline that would benefit our nation. Justin has no clue

 
Jacob Hobart
Jacob Hobart @Michael Murphy SERIOUSLY!?!?! You think we ship from Irving to China. Grab a map man..



David Amos
David Amos
@Ted Nesbitt YUP



David Amos
David Amos
@Jacob Hobart Methinks Mr Murphy is far too busy writing spin to have time for a nap N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Dan Reid True

David Amos
David Amos
@Jack O Hill "This from someone who does not understand that 350,000 bbl/day were destined for a refinery in Montreal. "

Methinks you forgot the Irvings in New Brunswick N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Lee "I read an article just yesterday how Western Select Canadian crude is being sold at a $25 dollar discount. At $65 bucks US a barrel for West Texas Intermediate that's just slightly over half price. "

Methinks that fact has been well known for many years thanks to the NAFTA deal the Trudeau The Younger wants to renew N'esy Pas?









Bill Jones 
Elias Snodgrass
Saudi Arabia knows what it needs to do - move out of the 7th Century into the 21ist.


David Amos
David Amos
@Elias Snodgrass Methinks you must have missed the great videos of Trump, mean old Wilbur Ross and the rest of the Boyz going back to the 7th Century and doing the sword dance with the Saudi's N'esy Pas?




Ron Paul
Ron Paul
@Elias Snodgrass It seems like Canada and Britain are the two countries still throwing the biggest fit over Trump, while the rest of the world is enjoying the extra level of peace in the world and boosts to their economies.

Elias Snodgrass
Elias Snodgrass
@Jim Palmer
Fortunately for America - it is not a Theocracy,

David Amos
David Amos
@Ron Paul Methinks the Yankee from Texas who has the same name as you disagrees with you N'esy Pas?





Scott Wilson 
Scott Wilson
The criticism came from a woman, that was the clincher.
Totally supporting Freeland, We don't need their students, and their money.


David Amos
David Amos
@Scott Wilson I agree but I don't support Freeland or Trudeau The Younger

David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Whitaker "The Saudi's haven't cancelled the 15 B contract yet!"

Methinks that they will in short order why else would MacKay be yapping on CBC N'esy Pas?




David Amos
David Amos
@Scott Wilson The criticism came from a woman, that was the clincher."

Methinks that is more than likely true. Why else would Trudeau The Younger have Omar Alghabra do the talking now N'esy Pas?







 Bill Jones 
Roger Jerome
....and Saudi Arabia is still on the UN Human Rights committee? Is that not hypocrisy ?


David Amos
David Amos
@Roger Jerome "Is that not hypocrisy ?"

We suffer from the same affliction created by our politicians.

Methinks that everybody knows the liberal lawyer who wrote the Human Rights Charter for the UN came from Fundy Royal yet CBC denies when other people run against their beloved liberals in that riding. Kinda strange for our democracy N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276






 Bill Jones 
Dave Singh
Canada must stand its ground and not capitulate to this petulant despot.


David Amos
David Amos
@Guy Stone "We are going to lose tens of billions in business and won't change Saudi one bit"

Methinks I should ask you what is the root of all evil N'esy Pas?






Bill Jones 
Mike Lee
For a country that only recently realized that it's OK to allow woman to drive, I don't think they should be telling us what's right or wrong.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mike Lee Methinks our government does not know right from wrong or they would not sold all the military hardware to the Saudi's N'esy Pas?







Andrew Francham 
Andrew Francham
Saudi Arabia needs to consider leaping ahead to the 16th century.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jacob Hobart "Indeed. Picking a leader based on who their parents were is insane"

True






Richard de Almeida 
Richard de Almeida
Change is scary. Saudis are terrified.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard de Almeida So are the Liberals




https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/canada-saudi-arabia-1.4777882


Canada cannot yield to Saudi Arabia's deranged overreaction

The regime's reaction to a couple of tweets is more about snuffing out its own country's voices of dissent




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Neil Austen 
Neil Austen
Canada must stand by the fundamental belief of a democratic society. The country can not cave in to over-privileged primitive theocracies.



John Dirlik
John Dirlik
PS

Whether it is conservative siding with Saudi Arabia rather than Canada, or Israel aligning itself with Riyadh because they both hate Tehran, politics certainly makes for strange bedfellows.

David Amos
David Amos
@Neil Austen Methinks you did not see The Donal and the rest of the old boys club doing the sword dance in Saudi Arabia not long after he was sworn in as Prez. Trust that our Mr Dressup would have done so as well had he been invited along N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@John Dirlik "politics certainly makes for strange bedfellows."

Methinks The Donald and the circus he oversees called the US Congress proves that to be a fact on a daily basis N'esy Pas?


James Rielly
James Rielly
@David Amos That's a lot of fertilizer right there, N'esy Pas.



Karen King
Karen King
@brian duog

well at least you do not pretend to be english

 
David Amos
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David Amos
@James Rielly Methinks that you and Karen King aught to know N'esy Pas?








Alison Jackson 
Alison Jackson
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia executed a man by crucifixion in the holy city of Mecca on Wednesday amid trying to attack Canada on its human-rights record.


Peter Samson
Peter Samson
@Alison Jackson I'm not a fan of public executions but a quick Google tells me that Egypt, Iran, Iraq, UAE, Kuwait, Jordan, Palestine and Bahrain also regularly have executions- with Iran being the worst offender. Last year Iran accounted for 51% of all executions. So why single out Saudi Arabia? It appears that executions are still part of the culture in the ME and I'm not sure a couple of tweets from the Canadian government are an effective means of affecting change.

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Samson Methinks George Bush The Younger oversaw an amazing amount of executions in Texas N'esy Pas?


Jim Palmer
Jim Palmer
@Alison Jackson (X2)

"The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia executed a man by crucifixion in the holy city of Mecca on Wednesday"

I guess that's what Jesus would have done.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Jim Palmer Methinks it interesting CBC allows such comments yet block mine N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos WW Methinks CBC just proved my point in spades and in a heartbeat no less N'esy Pas?






Colin Seeley
Charles van Duren
Hating JT seems to trump (Trump?) women's rights (and human rights in general) for many posters here. Or at least make them stop at the border.

Scheer better watch how he handles this. Coming across as a friend of the Saudis will not go over well with Canadians.

Colin Seeley
Colin Seeley
@Charles van Duren

Its Freeland is now an enemy of SA. She needs to resign.


Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)
Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)
@Colin Seeley

Your frothing-at-the-mouth is both hilarious, and ridiculous.

Perhaps you'd like to read the article you mouth-vomited on again, and perhaps try some critical thinking?

David Amos
David Amos
@Charles van Duren "Scheer better watch how he handles this"

Methinks we should also watch how Scheer handles this as well N'esy Pas?.

David Amos
David Amos
@Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite) "Your frothing-at-the-mouth is both hilarious, and ridiculous. "

Methinks Mr Seeley is the alter ego of Mr Gillis N'esy Pas?


Garfield Stephenson Wu
Garfield Stephenson Wu
@Charles van Duren Yep. And if the former House Speaker was indeed against SA, then he would've tried to convince SH to not establish that arms deal with SA or even sell our Wheat Board in the first place.

David Amos
David Amos
@Garfield Stephenson Wu Oh so True





Colin Seeley
John Sollows
The Saudis at the top need to realize that this sort of overreaction does nothing to improve the country's image abroad.

Au contraire.


Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@John Sollows

Conservative's on here seem to love Saudi Arabia


David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "Conservative's on here seem to love Saudi Arabia"

Methinks you read things through rose coloured glasses N"esy Pas?


David Amos
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David Amos
@brian duog Methinks they care a great deal because a lot of their money ends up in Israel N'esy Pas?







Andrew Niall Gordanier 
Andrew Niall Gordanier
Dump Saudi arms deal and stop their oil coming into this country. We should not give an inch to medieval despots who seek to further their boorish behaviour. Allies or not, Canada will never bow down to despicable people like this.

 
jimmy vee
jimmy vee
@William Wallace Irving buys daily on the world market from who ever is cheapest that day, they say so in their annual statement, It is also why they did not want to commit to energy east


David Amos
David Amos
@jimmy vee "Irving buys daily on the world market from who ever is cheapest that day"

Methinks the ghost of ol KC would have it no other way N'esy Pas?






George Young 
George Young
Canada should be pushing for the ending of capital punishment in Saudi Arabia as a priority. The stupid reasons for murdering its own citizens, and the hideous ways it does this, tells the world that MORE criticism is needed of this horrid terror state.

Who needs allies like this?


Jed Took
Jed Took
@George Young

theocratic dictatorships poison everything


David Amos
David Amos
@Jed Took "theocratic dictatorships poison everything"

YUP





Colin Seeley 
John Smith
What an opportunity. We should be slowly cutting ties with this bad actor. KSA's actions makes this possible. For Canadian business trading with KSA, they knew the risks that something like this was possible. We dont need their money, it is tainted. They certainly dont need my money.


David Amos
David Amos
@John Smith I agree







Colin Seeley 
Barbara Leblanc
The riches of geography has allowed the Saudis to live in a world of their own making but the source of their fabulous wealth is finite and Arabia will someday be called just Arabia once again. Canada will still be Canada.


David Amos
David Amos
@Barbara Leblanc Heres hoping you are correct.








Kevin Delaney 
Kevin Delaney
The enlightened Saudi Prince punishes the Saudi Medical Students & the Saudi people they would help upon graduation & their return to Saudi Arabia. Why? Well, it all because the Saudi Prince does not want to acknowledge the wrong done to those who justly protest within his nation. Enlightened indeed.


David Amos
David Amos
@Kevin Delaney Methinks Freeland didn't help to change his mind N'esy Pas?

Karen King
Karen King
@David Amos

you are not funny and your mis speak is insulting.


David Amos
David Amos
@Karen King Methinks lots of folks think even less of you N'esy Pas?






Paul Delaney
Paul Delaney
Agreed, don't back down. We are civilized, they aren't.
 

David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Delaney Civilized or not I would not back down Methinks I already proved that to Trudeau The Younger and his minions N'esy Pas?




https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/saudi-arabia-canada-oil-supplies-jailed-activists-1.4778749


Row over jailed activists won't affect oil shipments to Canada, Saudi minister says

Under 'longstanding policy,' kingdom's petroleum supplies aren't influenced by political considerations

Thomson Reuters · Posted: Aug 09, 2018 6:36 AM ET


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 George Abbott 
George Abbott
Saudi Arabia has expelled Canada's ambassador and recalled its own; suspended trade and planned to sell off Canadian assets; ordered thousands of students and medical trainees to leave Canada; and is suspending Saudi state airline flights to Toronto. The big loser here is Saudi Arabia.


David Amos
David Amos
@George Abbott Methinks the first thing the Saudi's should lose is their controlling interest in the Canadian Wheat Board for that they bought from their pal Harper for the fire sale price of $250 million N'esy Pas?


Louren Organzo
Louren Organzo
@Sandy Gillis
" Strength means standing by our convictions "
Can you explain to me how selling the KSA armoured vehicles is standing by our convictions?

Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@Louren Organzo
I don't think that it is, and I wish that deal had never been made under Harper, and I wish Trudeau had had the guts to cancel it when he took over.

However, what we don't need to do is start slinging mud and insults like a bunch of immature kids. We can say our piece, and make our decisions, from strength, without resorting to the childish braggadocio the previous poster had mistaken for strength.

We started this from the high road, let's stay there.

Jack O Hill
Jack O Hill
@Sandy Gillis

" However, what we don't need to do is start slinging mud and insults like a bunch of immature kids."

Or like our present foreign minister, who does not seem to understand how diplomacy is carried out.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Sandy Gillis "However, what we don't need to do is start slinging mud and insults like a bunch of immature kids."

Methinks those are very strange words for you to use N'esy Pas?


Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@David Amos
What's the matter David? Getting a little melty around the edges?

David Amos
David Amos
@Sandy Gillis Not a very witty comeback just another insult. Methinks many folks are well aware that I have had enough of the left wingnuts trolling a domain supported by my tax funds N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Sandy Gillis

Methinks some folks may have noticed that my comment went "Poof" after you replied with another insult N'esy Pas?


Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@David Amos
Super, maybe it's because you keep posting off topic.

David Amos
David Amos
@Sandy Gillis "However, what we don't need to do is start slinging mud and insults like a bunch of immature kids."



Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@David Amos
How am I slinging mud here David? You keep harassing me for some unknown reason, so I call you out as an attention starved, emotionally stunted individual. I'm not calling you names, I'm not seeking you out to personally attack you, but I'm certainly not going to just sit here while you play your silly, childish games.







Steve Timmins 
Steve Timmins
Now maybe some can see why it would make more sense that we use our own oil instead of importing it from places like Saudi Arabia? Build pipelines!


David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Timmins Methinks all we have to do is pick up the phone a make a deal with Venezuela over oil for food like just we did with Iraq years ago N'esy Pas?


jean forbes
jean forbes
@David Amos - what is 'N'esy Pas'? Quessing you're attempting to add a bilinqual touch to your comments, but from what non-english language??

David Amos
David Amos
@jean forbes Come down to Fundy sometime and ask the folks to explain Chiac to you. I am tired of doing so. Until then methinks you snobby Anglos should quit insulting me N'esy Pas?


NORMAN JAMIESON
NORMAN JAMIESON
@David Amos touche./twoshai

David Amos
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David Amos
@NORMAN JAMIESON EXACTLY





Ken MacDonald 
Ken MacDonald
If the UN had teeth, SA would've have been called out on their human rights abuses decades ago.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ken MacDonald Methinks the Saudi's own the UN and most of Washington DC N'esy Pas?


Robert Paul
Robert Paul
@Ken MacDonald

The UN only goes after militarily weak countries.

Steven Arsenault
Steven Arsenault
@Ken MacDonald

Are you kidding the UN actually put them on the UN Human rights council .....disgrace

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Paul The UN is a joke






Ken MacDonald 
Art McCarthy (Key Bored)
We don't want anything to do with you; no trade, no diplomatic ties, no academic exchange. Oh, by the way, please continue to buy our oil?
Hmmm.... tempting .... but, no thanks.


David Amos
David Amos
@Art McCarthy (Key Bored) I agree



David Amos
David Amos
@Steven Arsenault "Oh but JT will gotta keep the billionaire Irving family happy."

Methinks its not just Trudeau the Younger all the politicians had to pay homage to the Irving Empire before his Papa was the PM N'esy Pas?





Ken MacDonald 
John Sollows
Well, where would Saudi Arabia be without its oil?


David Amos
David Amos
@John Sollows Methinks you should ask the ghost of Lawrence of Arabia who is responsible for the Saudi's taking advantage of their natural resources N'esy Pas?


NORMAN JAMIESON
NORMAN JAMIESON
@Robert Paul Just build Energy EAST...won't need Saudi crapoila

David Amos
David Amos
@NORMAN JAMIESON Methinks conservatives speak funny Chiac N'esy Pas?








Evan Cook 
Evan Cook
As a liberal American, I am very concerned about human rights as Canada is. The concerns expressed by Canada about human rights are concerns we all share and the world owes Canada its support. During 9/11, Gander welcomed the world's airlines to land and took care of those passengers. I will never forget Canada's generosity. It disgusts me that Saudi Arabia would take such an aggressive swipe at such a gentle and rational country. I wish my country didn't have our current president, because we should be standing side-by-side with you. I encourage Canada to find ways to utilize its own oil and allow Saudi Arabia to pull away. When given the choice of who's side to take, I will always choose Canada. Yours is a country to be proud of and so many of us around the globe love and respect you all!


David Amos
David Amos
@Evan Cook "When given the choice of who's side to take, I will always choose Canada. Yours is a country to be proud of and so many of us around the globe love and respect you all!"

Methinks somebody should say thanks so I just did N'esy Pas?

David Amos
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David Amos
@Roland Reimer "Too bad most Canadians viscerally dislike Americans.
It's part of our culture."

Methinks you should learn to speak for yourself N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks its VERY interesting that CBC would disable that comment after it stood for hours and liked 3 times N'esy Pas?






Ken MacDonald 
Al Steele
This is no surprise. Saudis are looking to punish Canada not themselves, hail the almighty dollar. It is time for Canadian to reach out to our brothers and sisters out west and make Canada a whole country coast to coast, do you hear me my french family? ENERGY EAST


Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@Jack O Hill
Yes Jack, after supplying all those refineries which cannot process the product being shipped. That sounds really reasonable.


Jack O Hill
Jack O Hill
@Sandy Gillis

Montral is already taking a fair bit of dilbit with the Line 9 reversal completed. Has no problem with it.

Ultramar was ready to build a coker as soon as EE was approved. Cancelled when EE was cancelled.


David Amos
David Amos
@Sandy Gillis Have heard from your friends yet?

Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@David Amos
I don't know which friends you're referring to. I have most certainly never heard a single person I have ever met mention your name before in my life, so I'm not sure why you're so concerned about my social circle.


David Amos
David Amos
@Sandy Gillis "Yes Jack, after supplying all those refineries which cannot process the product being shipped."

Methinks I should call them call them again Everybody knows you are yapping about stuff I debated while running for a seat in the 42nd Parliament N'esy Pas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE


Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@David Amos
Nobody knows, nor do they care, that you're a failed politician David. If we agree on this issue that's all well and good. Do you have something useful to add? Or are you just trying to get people to look at you again?

And, again, what friends of mine are you referring to?

David Amos
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David Amos
@Sandy Gillis Its Mr Amos to you Remember Methinks everybody knows I am not a friend of a Troll Furthermore you should know who your friends are one joked to me about Jedis N'esy Pas?


Steven Arsenault
Steven Arsenault
@Daniel McKay

Now if only AB would stop selling all the rights to the yankees (ex. Koch bros).....the smart thing to do.......but no we are dupes.

David Amos
David Amos
@Sandy Gillis Methinks your friends have been busy this evening going though my comments and deleting some for your benefit N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Steven Arsenault I concur






Ken MacDonald 
Vivien Voltaire
Well of course not... too funny.

Canada really should turn it around and tell SA to keep their dead dinosaur juice...

Canada should be pushing to become far far more self sustaining and reliant in areas like fuel dependency just to name one.


David Amos
David Amos
@Vivien Voltaire Methinks ethical people should tell you that oil is not dead dinosaur juice so I just did N'esy Pas?





Richard Andrews 
Richard Andrews
These un-ethical Oil shipments should be stopped... permanently

Time to rely on Canadian oil


Jason Dean
Jason Dean
@Richard Andrews

According to liberals and pretend greenies our oil is unethical.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Dean Methinks Trudeau the Younger just bought a pipeline from the Yankees so that kinda pokes a big hole in your argument N'esy Pas?






Ken MacDonald 
pat fisher
Buy oil from Norway until freedom and democracy come to SA.


John Vesters
John Vesters
@pat fisher Why buy oil from anywhere when we have far more then enough ourselves ?

David Amos
David Amos
@John Vesters "Why buy oil from anywhere when we have far more then enough ourselves ?"

YUP




http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-ndp-oil-saudi-arabia-canada-1.4779792




Singh pitches payback for Saudi spat — buying our oil somewhere else

NDP leader says there are 'other nations we can look at' for oil

Katharine Starr · CBC News · Posted: Aug 09, 2018 6:21 PM ET



2308 Comments 
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TED VANOORSCHOT 
TED VANOORSCHOT
Here's an idea....buy oil from this little country you may have heard of. ...Canada.
We have the world's third largest oil reserves.


David Amos
David Amos
@TED VANOORSCHOT Methinks thats too easy for politicians to understand N'esy Pas?



Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@David Amos
You don't seem to know that refineries are set up to use the oil they contract to buy, and can't switch back and forth, they also have long term contracts, and don't just flip around between suppliers. so simple to come up with a SIMPLE idea.


Art Rowe
Art Rowe
@TED VANOORSCHOT
If the NDP were in power, they would stop buying from Saudi and instead buy from Venezuela.


David Amos
David Amos
@Art Rowe Methinks we should trade Venezuela food for oil just like when Trudeau The Elder's old buddy Maurice Strong brokered for Power Corp and Iraq N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Edward Peter Methinks I would love to see Irving's long term contracts it that were true N'esy Pas?


Doug Gray
Doug Gray
@David Amos
The article would be more accurate if it reported where in Canada the off shore oil is going? Tell us how the oil and electricity flows between Canada/USA/Off Shore Countries and why.


David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Gray I have had a lot to say about oil, pipelines, electricity NAFTA in the past and NEB and EUB hearings in lawsuits and while running for public office while people laughed at my concerns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE









TED VANOORSCHOT 
Jon Mark
Or we can establish our own infrastructure and get our oil from our own country, you know that country that:
1. Supports the feminist agenda
2. Supports the LGBTQ+ agenda
3. Supports the refugee agenda
4. Supports the equal education agenda
5. Supports the no child in poverty agrenda
6. Supports the middle class and all those trying hard to join it agenda
7. Supports the climate/economic agenda

Why is it such a challenge to support a energy self sufficiency agenda?


David Amos
David Amos
@Jon Mark Methinks they would have to lower taxes if they did that and there would be a lot unionized CRA employees being laid off N'esy Pas?



Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Jon Mark Because we are not governed by a dictator with infinite control of all the businesses in Canada, as well as all the people and all resources, Kim in North Korea is or tries to be and the people are not doing that good.

David Amos
David Amos
@Edward Peter Methinks that while a PM oversee and majority mandate he is a dictator N'esy Pas?


Doug Gray
Doug Gray
@David Amos
N'esc Pas in getting really old N'esy Pas?


Michael Brown
Michael Brown
@David Amos What is "N'esy Pas" supposed to mean?


David Amos
David Amos
@Michael Brown Chiac Google it

David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Gray Methinks it was already old before you were born N'esy Pas?







Katy Rose
Katy Rose
Singh is right it makes sense to refine the oil here in Canada.


David Amos
David Amos
@Katy Rose Methinks Singh is not the first person to figure that out N'esy Pas?



Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Katy Rose
Where will we be building that refinery, who's backyard?
How many protesters would be camping on that project, and what would the cost be, and would the oil be piped there, more leaks, oh my heavens!!


David Amos
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David Amos
@Edward Peter Alberta


David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos I wrote just one word which a name of a province and CBC blocked it?


Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)
Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)
@David Amos

I would out of spite, because of the asinine way you end damn near every post.

It's impossible to take you seriously, and just seeing your avatar makes me instantly dismissive of whatever tangled, barely coherent garbage is written.

David Amos
David Amos
@Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite) Methinks no insult should surprise me after running for public office against your heros in the Maritimes since 2004 N'esy Pas?







TED VANOORSCHOT 
James Priolette
Hmmmm the pipe line from the west to the east makes sense now? Go figure


Dan Reid
Dan Reid
@James Priolette Singh is against pipelines

David Amos
David Amos
@Dan Reid Methinks Singh as political lawyer will go whichever way the wind blows. In BC he is likely against pipelines but I bet he sings a different tune in Alberta N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Bryson Methinks Albeta is part of Canada and as far as I know we fetch world price for the product if we get it to salt water instead of giving it to Yankees a 2/3 of the value as per NAFTA N'esy Pas?





TED VANOORSCHOT 
Richard Dekkar
If Singh really supported Canada, he would advocate for Energy East and use Canadian oil, not the conflict oil we insist on importing.

But that would only happen if he actually supported Canada.


Jack Hill
Jack Hill
@Richard Dekkar

Canada is a failure, why should he support a failure?

David Amos
David Amos
@Jack Hill Methinks he should support it because it is the only Canada we have N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Bryson "It's amazing how selective some people's memories are."

YUP













Steve Timmins
Steve Timmins
The man is un-electable because of his past. He is wasting his time and breath.


David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Timmins "The man is un-electable because of his past."

Methinks he picked a fairly safe riding to make a stab at it in N'esy Pas?



TED VANOORSCHOT
Ida Pomme
Why should we look elsewhere for oil, we have lots of oil. Use our own oil


David Amos
David Amos
@Ida Pomme Methinks thats why Trudeau The Elder created Petro Canada many moons ago N'esy Pas?



Jack O Hill
Jack O Hill
@David Amos

"Methinks thats why Trudeau The Elder created Petro Canada many moons ago N'esy Pas?"

Unfortunately, Petro Canada lost money almost every year. When it was finally sold, the staff was cut in half. Now it makes money. Typical government operation.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jack O Hill Methinks Trudeau The Elder's buddies such as Maurice Strong made out like the bandits they were at our expense N'esy Pas?




TED VANOORSCHOT 
bill maclean
I watched the interview. It was quite obvious he and the NDP didn’t believe in Canadian oil and would want to buy it from foreign countries. He really looked clueless on the subject.


Kathy Altenhofen
Kathy Altenhofen
@bill maclean The majority of politicians look, and act, clueless on a vast range of subjects.
David Amos
David Amos
@Kathy Altenhofen YUP







Kathy Altenhofen 
Roland Reimer
Wow.
Deep thoughts.!
Fabulous suggestions!
Buy the oil from somewhere else.
Forehead smack!!
Brilliant!

Amelia Blanchard
Amelia Blanchard
@Roland Reimer

It means he is willing to stand up to SA, which is not a bad thing in and of itself.

David Amos
David Amos
@Amelia Blanchard True




  


Amelia Blanchard
Elias Snodgrass
A true Canadian would say - build the Energy East pipeline - then we don't have to buy it anywhere else.

But then again - he's NDP


Alan MacLean
Alan MacLean
@Jack Hill
Speaking for yourself, one assumes.

David Amos
David Amos
@Alan MacLean Methinks you are talking to a ghost N'esy Pas?










TED VANOORSCHOT 
daryl tan
Singh really is clueless.

He opposed Energy East and Alberta oil, but now wants to look at other nations for oil with better track records on human rights?!

Like where Singh? Venezuela? Nigeria? Russia? Iran?

How about Alberta you twit?


David Amos
David Amos
@daryl tan Methinkssomebody should Tweet the twit and tell him to talk to Alberta's NDP Premier before she loses the next election N'esy Pas?









Jack Hill 
Jack Hill
Why is Scheer always hiding?

Better to allow voters to think he's a fool, than to allow him to speak and prove it.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jack Hill I agree








TED VANOORSCHOT 
Bob Stewart
I know an alternate source where we can access oil- how about Canada


David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Stewart YUP Even New Brunswick has oil wells



 


TED VANOORSCHOT 
Linda Taylor
He seems like a nice guy, but watching him I still don't understand how they picked him, he really has no presence and real answers, he just goes round and round, well like other politicians I guess. I would think he either gets a backbone or he won't make it.


David Amos
David Amos
@Linda Taylor Methinks you didn't notice how he won the leadership N'esy Pas?






Trudeau rebuffs Saudi call for an apology as diplomatic spat escalates


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau rebuffed a Saudi demand Wednesday for Canada to fix what it calls a 'big mistake' - a reference to the Trudeau government raising concerns about the jailing of human rights activists in the kingdom. (Graham Hughes/Canadian Press)


The diplomatic brawl between Canada and Saudi Arabia shows no signs of abating after the kingdom's foreign affairs minister publicly demanded that Canada withdraw its criticism of his country's human rights record — something Prime Minister Justin Trudeau refused to do Wednesday.

Speaking to reporters in Riyadh, Adel al-Jubeir said there will be no reconciliation between the two countries unless Canada recants its condemnation of Saudi Arabia's decision to jail prominent women's rights activists Samar Badawi and Nassima al-Sadah.
"Canada knows what it needs to do," he said.

Trudeau said Canada will not apologize for standing up for Canadian values and human rights — even if it risks ruffling the feathers of a global partner.




Trudeau on the Saudi diplomatic flap




00:00 00:28

 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau explains how his government is dealing with the diplomatic issue between Canada and Saudi Arabia 0:28


"Canadians have always expected our government to speak strongly, firmly and politely about the need to respect human rights around the world. We will continue to stand up for Canadian values and human rights. It's something that I will always do," the prime minister told reporters after an announcement in Montreal.

"We continue to engage diplomatically and politically with the government of Saudi Arabia [but] Canada will always speak strongly in private and in public on questions of human rights. People around the world expect that kind of leadership from Canada. We will remain firm."

Badawi is the sister of Raif Badawi, a Saudi dissident blogger who has been imprisoned by the Saudi government since 2012 on charges of apostasy and "insulting Islam through electronic channels." Raif Badawi's wife, Ensaf Haidar, and their three children have been living in Quebec since 2015 after fleeing the kingdom.

Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland sent a tweet last week saying she was alarmed by Badawi's imprisonment and calling for the release of "peaceful" human rights activists — a statement which drew the ire of the Middle Eastern kingdom's governing monarchy.

"A mistake has been made and a mistake should be corrected," al-Jubeir said Wednesday. "Canada needs to fix its big mistake."


Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir says Canada must withdraw its recent criticism of his country's human rights record. (Thomas Peter/Reuters)

A subsequent tweet from the Saudi foreign affairs ministry said the country would not "accept dictates" or "interference" in its internal affairs from Canada.

"The matter is not about human rights; it is a matter of national security. Saudi Arabia build (sic) relations based on mutual respect, respect for the sovereignty of states and not interfering in the affairs of other countries," one of the Saudi government tweets said.



| FM @AdelAljubeir: There is no need for mediation. did not interfered in the affairs of in any way. Therefore,
Canada must correct its actions towards the

Trudeau confirmed Freeland had a telephone conversation with her Saudi counterpart on Tuesday, and lines of communication between the two countries remain open.

In addition to dealing directly with Saudi Arabia, a government official speaking on background told CBC News that Freeland is calling or arranging calls with countries in Europe and the Middle East to see if they can help resolve this standoff.

Freeland has already spoken with Sweden and Germany, two countries that have had similar battles with Saudi Arabia in the past.

The official told CBC News that commenting on human rights is a key part of the Trudeau government's foreign policy and that approach is not about to change. The official said that Freeland privately raised human rights concerns directly with the Saudi foreign minister earlier this year in Bangladesh, during a meeting of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation Council of Foreign Ministers.
Trudeau, meanwhile, said he doesn't want Canada to have "poor relations" with the kingdom.
"This is a country that has some importance around the world. It is making progress when it comes to human rights. But, at the same time, we have to speak out about the challenges there and elsewhere," Trudeau said in French.

The government has faced criticism from some quarters — from former Conservative foreign affairs minister Peter MacKay, among others — for admonishing Saudi Arabia through a tweet, rather than voicing concerns through the normal diplomatic channels.

But Trudeau said Canada is in direct discussions with countries around the world and that he saw nothing wrong with using modern communication tools to share Canada's concerns.




Trudeau on Twitter diplomacy




00:00 00:21

 Prime Minster Justin Trudeau explains why his government sometimes uses twitter to get its diplomatic message out to the public 0:21


"We will continue to make statements and we will continue to use the full range of methods of communication as appropriate," he said.

"We have to use as many tools as we can to get our message out across in the modern world," he added in French.

Al-Jubeir's comments come as the country — an autocratic state controlle
d by the House of Saud — recalls Saudi nationals attending Canadian universities and pulls Saudi patients from Canadian hospitals.

Saudi Arabia reviewing Canadian investments


The Financial Times reported Wednesday that the country's rulers also have asked asset managers to sell Saudi-owned stakes in Canadian enterprises. The country also will stop purchasing Canadian wheat and barley — a trade move that is not expected to be all that damaging, since Canada hasn't sold any wheat or barley to the kingdom this year.

The fate of a $15 billion deal to sell Saudi Arabia light-armoured vehicles (LAVs) from London, Ont.-based General Dynamics remains unknown.

The kingdom is considering "other measures," al-Juberi said without elaborating. Saudi Arabia already has expelled the Canadian ambassador.

A spokesperson for Global Affairs Canada told CBC News the department "continues to seek clarity" from the government of Saudi Arabia on "various issues."

"The embassy's trade officers, in addition to the wider Trade Commissioner Service, are actively engaged with Canadian business interests and will continue to work with them and the relevant authorities in the coming days," the spokesperson said. "Our government will always support Canadian workers and industries, and defend their interests at home and abroad.‎"
Liberal MP Omar Alghabra, a parliamentary secretary to the minister of foreign affairs, said the government was "surprised" by the heavy-handed Saudi response to the tweet, given how Canada has repeatedly voiced concerns about the state of human rights in the country — a place frequently cited for its abysmal treatment of women, minorities, foreign labourers, dissidents and human rights advocates, among others.

"It was their decision to escalate the situation — we have done nothing out of the usual — and we're interested in maintaining dialogue with Saudi. The Saudis made this decision and hopefully the Saudis will come to the table and engage us in a frank and constructive way," he said in an interview with CBC's Power & Politics.



Politics News
'It was their decision to escalate the situation'




00:00 08:57
 

 Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs Omar Alghabra tells Power & Politics that Canada has done nothing out of the usual in the diplomatic spat with Saudi Arabia. 8:57


So far, Canada's closest allies — the United States and the United Kingdom — have issued rather tepid statements and are refusing to condemn the Saudi actions.

Heather Nauert, a U.S. State Department spokeswoman, said Tuesday the U.S. is urging Canada and Saudi Arabia to use diplomacy to resolve their dispute.

"Both sides need to diplomatically resolve this together. We can't do it for them, they need to resolve it together," Nauert said in a briefing.

In a written statement, the State Department referred to both Canada and Saudi Arabia as close allies.
Similarly, a spokeswoman for the U.K.'s Foreign and Commonwealth Office said the two countries are "close partners" of the United Kingdom and urged restraint.

"The U.K. is a strong supporter of human rights. We regularly raise our concerns with the Saudi government about human rights issues, including the recent arrests of human rights defenders," the spokeswoman said.



Politics News
'It's disappointing - there's no question'




00:00 07:37
 

 Former Defence Minister Peter MacKay joins Power & Politics to discuss the ongoing deterioration in relations between Canada and Saudi Arabia. 7:37


With files from David Cochrane and Reuters


Canada cannot yield to Saudi Arabia's deranged overreaction

The regime's reaction to a couple of tweets is more about snuffing out its own country's voices of dissent


If Canada folds, some fear that a line would be drawn in the sand, and behind that line, petty Arab dictators could do what they want with their activist communities, without as much as a complaint from the world. (Cliff Owen/Associated Press)


Back in March, Saudi Arabia's powerful crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman (popularly known as MBS), went on a two-week tour throughout the United States, shaking hands with Hollywood elite, media personalities and politicians.

As University of Denver analyst Nader Hashemi noted at the time, MBS was trying to change Saudi Arabia's optics problem, given the frequent beheadings, the brutal war in Yemen and ongoing activism for human rights in the country. The charm offensive on 60 Minutes and meetings with Oprah and Bill Gates were supposed to change all that. MBS spent years and billions to present to the world an image of a bold, shrewd, yet responsible reformer.

The celebrities who met him would be forgiven for embracing him back then, when he still seemed somewhat credible. But MBS has since persecuted the country's leading women's rights activists, intimidated the once-vibrant Saudi feminist movement into silence, corrupted and shut down his country's once-dynamic public sphere and hunted down every last independent voice for human rights in the country.


MBS met with members of the British Royal Family in March. (Yui Mok/Associated Press)

When Canada's foreign ministry spoke out, then — first via a tweet from Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, then from the foreign ministry's Twitter account — it wasn't in a vacuum: it came as Saudi authorities targeted two of the last independent Saudi women's rights activists in the country, Samar Badawi and Nassima al-Sada.

"Canada is gravely concerned about additional arrests of civil society and women's rights activists in #SaudiArabia, including Samar Badawi. We urge the Saudi authorities to immediately release them and all other peaceful #humanrights activists" the ministry tweeted. Canada was right to speak out.



Canada is gravely concerned about additional arrests of civil society and women’s rights activists in , including Samar Badawi. We urge the Saudi authorities to immediately release them and all other peaceful activists.




MBS has been trying to convince the world that Saudi society has been regressive and backward, and that he alone will drag it into the 21st century. This image indeed speaks to certain Western prejudices about Saudis, but it's not entirely accurate. Saudi society has changed deeply over the past few decades, and while regressive forces are still influential, there are many talented, responsible, highly educated and world-conscious Saudi women and men who are more than capable of being at the helm, as their country's governance catches up. Unfortunately, these are exactly the people MBS has targeted with arrests. Canada was right to speak out for their fundamental human rights and call for their release.

But this is where things got bizarre. In response to Canada's statement, the Saudi regime's reaction seemed more deranged than firm. The Saudis expelled the Canadian ambassador, put a stop to new trade and investment, barred their citizens from receiving medical treatment in Canada, instructed their overseas asset managers to dump their Canadian assets "no matter the cost" and recalled 15,000 students from Canadian universities, jeopardizing their education. By any measure, it was an overreaction, which left most analysts confused. After all, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights used similar language in the weeks prior, but MBS didn't sever ties there, nor did he recall his ambassador to the UN.
So why Canada and why now? There are at least two reasons to note.

First, there is speculation that MBS's move was a calculated attempt at deterring foreign criticism as he attempts to bring Saudi society in line with his new vision. The argument, pushed by some Saudi-paid lobbyists, is that he needs to do this in order to assuage regressive elements in society. But even if this response was, in theory, a convincing deterrent, the bungling way in which Saudi media reacted – calling out "Canadian human rights abuses," for example  – shows more laughable incompetence than national pride.

Canada is perhaps a Western country that Saudi Arabia could take aim at, as a signal to other countries who may wish to speak out about human rights in similar ways. Canada was a safer target economically, as the Saudi state has extensive trade deals with both the U.K. and the EU, while the U.K. benefits from hundreds of billions of pounds spent by Saudi tourists. It is almost certain that MBS watched U.S. President Donald Trump's recent trade spat with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and saw an opportunity to hit at a liberal Western country, and appear to be standing up for "national sovereignty."


The regime wants to pose such reforms as the lifting of the driving ban as a gift from a magnanimous reforming monarchy. (Faisal Al Nasser/Reuters)

Second, and at a more profound level, MBS is worried about effective social movements in Saudi Arabia. As this audio alert from May explains, the regime wants to pose such reforms as the lifting of the driving ban as a gift from a magnanimous reforming monarchy, rather than the result of 25 years of defiance, activism and consciousness-raising by two generations of Saudi women. If the reform is seen as a victory for grassroots activism, two things could follow: it may spawn ever-more political rumblings internally, and these activists could form alliances globally, become media stars and be spurred on by countries pushing universal human rights – like Canada.

If Canada folds, some fear that a line would be drawn in the sand, and behind that line, petty Arab dictators could do what they want with their activist communities, without as much as a complaint from the world. This is exactly what these dictators want: to snuff out the last voices of dissent in their countries so that they can hear no voice but their own.

The prospect of international solidarity with native human rights activists is so deeply threatening that taking a sledgehammer approach to some tweets from the Canadian foreign minister seemed, to a fresh and inexperienced MBS, completely justified.

Amarnath Amarasingam is a Senior Research Fellow at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue and a Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Waterloo. He tweets at @AmarAmarasingam
Iyad El-Baghdadi is the President of the Norway-based Kawaakibi Center, an NGO focused on the future of liberty in the Arab and Muslim world. He tweets at @iyad_elbaghdadi

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Row over jailed activists won't affect oil shipments to Canada, Saudi minister says

Under 'longstanding policy,' kingdom's petroleum supplies aren't influenced by political considerations


Saudi Arabian Energy Minister Khalid al-Falih says the diplomatic feud 'will not, in any way, impact Saudi Aramco's relations with its customers in Canada.' (Leonhard Foeger/Reuters)

A row over human rights in Saudi Arabia will not have any impact on Saudi oil supplies to Canada, its energy minister said on Thursday, reassuring customers after Riyadh froze new trade with Canada and ruled out mediation efforts.

Saudi Arabia, infuriated by Canada's demand last week that jailed activists in the kingdom be released immediately, expelled the Canadian ambassador on Sunday, blocked imports of Canadian grain, and ended state-backed educational and medical programs in Canada.

The dispute has threatened to undermine Riyadh's foreign investment drive, a campaign already unsettled by a series of assertive political and diplomatic initiatives by the top oil exporter.


Saudi Arabia has a "firm and long-standing policy" that petroleum supplies are not influenced by political considerations, Khalid al-Falih said in a statement.

"The current diplomatic crisis between Saudi Arabia and Canada will not, in any way, impact Saudi Aramco's relations with its customers in Canada."

The Financial Times reported on Wednesday that the Saudi central bank and state pension funds had instructed their overseas asset managers to sell their Canadian equities, bonds and cash holdings.
The Saudi government's Center for International Communication (CIC) posted a tweet late on Wednesday saying "neither the government nor the Central Bank or the state pension fund has issued any instructions regarding the sale of Canadian assets."

But it promptly deleted the post without providing an explanation. CIC did not respond to a request for comment.

Foreign Affairs Minister Adel al-Jubeir on Wednesday ruled out any mediation efforts and called on Ottawa to "fix its big mistake," saying the kingdom was considering implementing more measures against Canada for interfering in Saudi Arabia's domestic affairs, without elaborating.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau later appeared to extend an olive branch, saying he would keep pressing Saudi Arabia on civil liberties, but also that the Gulf Arab state had made some progress on human rights.

"Diplomatic talks continue ... we don't want to have poor relations with Saudi Arabia. It is a country that has great significance in the world, that is making progress in the area of human rights," Trudeau said.

Saudi Arabia has in recent months detained several women's rights activists, some of whom had previously campaigned for the right to drive and an end to the kingdom's male guardianship system, the latest to be swept up in a government crackdown on activists, clerics and journalists.

'Impulsive policy-making'


Since rising to power in 2015, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has courted Western allies to support his reform plans to modernize and open up the kingdom, offering billions of dollars in arms sales and promising to fight radicalism in the kingdom.

The 32-year-old de facto ruler has launched a campaign of social and economic change, but has not eased the absolute monarchy's total ban on political activism. He has taken a more aggressive stance toward arch-rival Iran, began a three-year war in Yemen and led a boycott of fellow Gulf Arab state Qatar.


Saudi Arabian Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has begun a campaign of social and economic change, but has not eased a total ban on political activism. (Charles Platiau/Reuters)

The latest dispute with Canada is a sign that the prince is willing to risk riling international investors in order to remain in control of the process of change, RBC Capital Markets' Helima Croft wrote in a research note.

"Western governments expressing concerns about human rights issues in the kingdom is nothing new and Saudi authorities have long pushed back against what they characterize as inappropriate interference in their internal affairs," she said.
But Prince Mohammed is more willing than predecessors to throw caution to the wind, she said, and may be extra sensitive to outside criticism in light of recent challenges implementing his ambitious economic reform agenda.

The row with Canada strengthens an impression of impulsive policy-making.

"We have seen this before. They overreact and then cannot find a way to back down without losing face," a diplomat in the Gulf region said.

In addition to the trade freeze, Riyadh has stopped sending patients to Canadian hospitals and suspended scholarships for Saudi students at Canadian post-secondary schools, ordering them to attend schools elsewhere.

Bilateral trade between Canada and Saudi Arabia is worth more than $3.9 billion a year. Canadian exports to Saudi Arabia were about $1.46 billion in 2017, or 0.2 per cent of the total value of Canadian exports.

With files from CBC News




Singh pitches payback for Saudi spat — buying our oil somewhere else

NDP leader says there are 'other nations we can look at' for oil


NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh announces he will run in a byelection in Burnaby South during an event at an outdoor film studio in Burnaby, B.C., on Wednesday August 8, 2018. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)


As Canada's diplomatic dispute with Saudi Arabia heats up, Jagmeet Singh has an idea that could pour more fuel on the fire: forget the Arab kingdom and buy our oil from other countries.

"There are other nations we can look at in terms of access to oil," the federal NDP leader told Vassy Kapelos on CBC News Network's Power and Politics today.
"I think we should look at that as an alternative to dealing with a nation that has a serious track record of human rights violations, oppression of women, oppression of those who have voiced criticism of the government," he said.

"We should take a hard look. Does it make sense for us to continue to have trade relations with a country that has such a bad track record?"




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According to the National Energy Board, 11 per cent of the oil Canada imports came from Saudi Arabia in 2016. The kingdom is Canada's primary source of overseas oil imports (not including the United States). Other countries Canada imported oil from in 2016 included Algeria, Nigeria, Norway, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and the United Kingdom.

Singh did not say which suppliers he thinks Canada should turn to as an alternative to Saudi Arabia.

Focus on refineries, says Singh


Singh made the case for boosting Canada's refinery capacity, but demurred when asked whether that should extend to building more pipelines here.

"It requires refineries first and foremost. I think that's the priority," said Singh, who has opposed publicly both the Trans Mountain and Energy East pipeline projects.

"Being sovereign when it comes to our oil would mean having the capacity to refine here in Canada."
No new refineries have been built in Canada in 30 years, according to a 2018 NEB overview of Canadian refineries, and between 2005 and 2013, three refineries closed in central and Atlantic Canada.

 While Canadian production of crude oil has increased since 2000, refinery production has dropped nearly 15 per cent between 2004 and 2015.

Singh: Burnaby bid nothing to do with political pressure


Singh made the comments a day after announcing his bid for a seat in the riding of Burnaby South in British Columbia. The seat will be up for grabs after NDP MP Kennedy Stewart resigns to run for the Vancouver mayor's office.

Although the Ontario-based Singh has committed to moving to the West Coast if he wins the byelection, he's not house-hunting just yet.

That's because while Burnaby South is currently an NDP riding, it's far from safe: Stewart won by a margin of just 547 votes in the 2015 federal election.

"I made a commitment that if we win, I'm definitely going to move out ... it's a beautiful community," Singh said.

But if he loses?

"My commitment is to be a national leader, and as a national leader I have to represent every part of this country," he told Kapelos. "And the issues of Burnaby South are really national issues as well."

He also insisted his Burnaby bid has nothing to do with pressure from his own party to secure a seat in Parliament after spending the last 10 months since his leadership win largely absent from Ottawa.

"For me, it's always been about people and how we can best represent people and their needs," said Singh.







Saudi Arabia to sell off Canadian assets and stop buying Canadian wheat and barley

National airline Saudia will also stop flying to Canada starting next week


Saudi Arabia is flexing its economic muscle in its diplomatic dispute with Canada. (Amr Nabil/Associated Press)

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is reportedly selling off its assets in Canada and will stop buying Canadian wheat and barley, in the latest escalation in the sudden diplomatic dispute between the two countries.

Saudi Arabia's main state wheat buying agency has told grains exporters it will no longer buy Canadian wheat and barley.

"As of Tuesday, Aug. 7, 2018, Saudi Grains Organization (SAGO) can no longer accept milling wheat or feed barley cargoes of Canadian origin to be supplied," the notice to grain traders said.

Canada sold 66,000 tonnes of wheat to Saudi Arabia last year, slightly less than it did in 2016, Statistics Canada data shows.

In 2017, Canada also sold 132,000 tonnes of barley to the country, two times as much as it did the previous year.

In 2015, Saudia Arabia-based Saudi Agricultural and Livestock Investment Company was part of a consortium that bought a controlling interest in the Canadian Wheat Board for $250 million.

The move to block Canadian grain is the kingdom's attempt to punish Canada economically after Global Affairs Canada publicly criticized the Kingdom for jailing dissidents, enraging the regime.

The national Saudi Arabian airline, Saudia, said this week that it would suspend all flights between the country and Canada, starting next week.

The airline currently flies two routes to Canada, one to Riyadh and one to Jeddah.

But the Saudis don't have a lot of economic weapons at their disposal. The Financial Times reported Wednesday that the regime has ordered its central bank and massive sovereign wealth fund to sell off any Canadian assets, which the newspaper estimated to be a "fairly small" fraction of its total $100 billion in foreign holdings.

The Canadian dollar plunged on the report, before traders realized the limited scope of the moves.
The FT report comes a day after the Toronto Stock Exchange faced mysterious selling pressure on Tuesday after an unknown international dealer was said to be aggressively selling Canadian assets.

"From about 10:30 this morning a big sell program came in internationally at one of the dealers," said Dominique Barker, portfolio manager, CIBC Asset Management.
"We don't know which one, but the market has sold off, and the Canadian dollar also sold off from about that time. So that's impacting the Canadian market versus the rest of the world," Barker said.
Statistics Canada data shows that Canada imported just over $2 billion from Saudi Arabia so far in 2018. In return, Canada exported just shy of $1.4 billion to Saudi Arabia since January.

The Persian Gulf country is, however, a major supplier of oil to Canada, with about 15 per cent of Canada's oil imports coming from Saudi Arabia last year. That's about 100,000 barrels per day, and most of it is bound for Eastern Canada.

With files from Reuters and The Canadian Press

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