David Raymond Amos@DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@alllibertynews and 48 others The interesting part to me is why are Meng's lawyers ignoring my calls
and emails. Methinks they are enjoying the ride on the gravy train while
two Canadians are in jeopardy in China N'esy Pas?
RCMP and CBSA say Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou's phones never examined as claimed
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Rex Yuan Honestly,
would anyone believe RCMP and CBSA confiscated Meng's phones and did
nothing about them ? So what's the purpose of confiscating her
phones ? Meng never asked for a lawyer ? If we are arrested by a
cop, we would get a standard reminder that we are entitled to a lawyer.
Why didn't RCMP and CBSA made such offer, particularly for a
foreigner ? This case is not just about Huawei or Meng, it is about
our very own law enforcement agencies. A sad day.
Bob Kindle
Reply to @Rex Yuan:
Yes, they knew who she was...
David Amos
Reply to @Bob Kindle: I wholeheartedly agree sir Perhaps you should check Federal Court File No T-1557-15.
The interesting part to me is why are Meng's lawyers ignoring my calls
and emails. Methinks they are enjoying the ride on the gravy train while
two Canadians are in jeopardy in China N'esy Pas?
Solomon Kane
Reply to @David Amos:
In all seriousness I think you need some help. I see no reason at all
that you should be communicating with her lawyers as a private Canadian
citizen.
Woodie Guy Security
guards around her need to go to Tims for doughnuts while she slips out
of the country solving Canada's problems with China. Trump can do his
own dirty work.
David Amos
Reply to @woodie guy: I concur
Zapata
Rigoreto I'm
sure Ms Meng has been treated with great care and in a perfectly legal
manner. The same cannot be said for the two Canadian diplomats
currently in some Chinese prison.
Bob Kindle
Reply to @Zapata Rigoreto:
Amen! China's response to this is alarming. Plus, what if she is
guilty? That makes China guilty! Which makes there response
terrifying! Is this how China reacts to being caught breaking
international law?
and people on this board are claiming we should give her back for more "trade" with China! Scary... Money over anything, eh?
Eva Beeley
Reply to @Zapata Rigoreto:
'Michael Kovrig, a former Canadian diplomat, working for the CIA front,
International Crisis Group, and Michael Spavor, a man who has managed to
insert himself into the inner circle of the government of the DPRK by
arranging trips to the DPRK, often a cover for western espionage, both
accused of endangering Chinese national security.'
Christopher Black, international criminal lawyer of high-profile war crimes cases
~ December 14, 2018
Joe Kaufman
Reply to @Zapata
Rigoreto: Kidnapping a Chinese citizen for political reasons is a very
serious crime. One that has already costed Canadians billions. And for
what, six months later and she's still here waiting for actual evidence
to be supplied by the US government! This is a farce that has given
Canada a black eye in the eyes of the international community.
David Amos
Reply to @Joe Kaufman: "This is a farce that has given Canada a black eye in the eyes of the international community"
I agree but I doubt that all of the farmers or the fellas the Chinese are prosecuting find anything funny about this.
Bob DeJohn
Reply to @Zapata
Rigoreto: "perfectly legal" Riiiight. Detaining a foreign national for
half a year without a trial is super legal here. Making her pay for her
own security is also super normal. I don't understand why people are
surprised when there is backlash for us doing the dirty deeds for the
US.
Onager Smith "Bob DeJohn" - nice Canadian-sounding name there, China...
Mike Murphy
Reply to @Bob DeJohn:
Ms Meng offered to pay her own security so she could be freed on bail,
any Canadians free on bail in China?
RCMP and CBSA say Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou's phones never examined as claimed
Authorities deny breaching Huawei executive's rights during December arrest at Vancouver airport
Huawei
chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou is facing possible extradition to
the United States. The RCMP and CBSA claim her Charter rights were never
violated. (Ben Nelms/CBC)
Lawyers for the RCMP and the Canada
Border Services Agency claim agents have never examined electronic
devices belonging to Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou.
Both agencies filed a joint response in B.C. Supreme Court Monday to Meng's civil suit
claiming that her Charter rights were violated when she was detained
and arrested at Vancouver International Airport on Dec. 1, 2018.
The
court documents name two border services officers who searched Meng's
luggage and seized her phones after she disembarked a flight from Hong
Kong.
But
they claim that while one officer wrote down the phone numbers and
passwords, he didn't examine the contents of the electronic devices. And
nor — allegedly — did police.
"The RCMP did not receive any
information that the CBSA obtained in the course of the immigration and
customs examinations of the plaintiff other than the piece of paper
containing the phone numbers and passwords for the phones," the response
to the civil claim reads.
"At no time has any RCMP officer examined the contents of the electronic devices or the phones."
Charges of conspiracy, fraud, obstruction
Meng was arrested at YVR at the behest of the United States, where prosecutors want her to stand trial for allegedly violating sanctions against Iran.
The 47-year-old is the daughter of Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei.
She
is charged, along with the company, with 13 counts of conspiracy, fraud
and obstruction related to an alleged scheme to circumvent sanctions
against Iran through a shadow company in Tehran that prosecutors say was
actually controlled by Huawei.
Meng Wanzhou has two homes in Vancouver, including this $15
million mansion in Shaughnessy where she is currently living. (Evan
Mitsui/CBC)
Meng,
who was released on $10 million bail in December, is currently guarded
around the clock. She pays the security bill and recently moved from
her home in Dunbar to a second house in Shaughnessy where she is living
while she awaits an extradition hearing.
She filed a civil suit against the CBSA and the RCMP in March, claiming her Charter rights were violated.
She
claims the two agencies colluded with American officials to have her
detained for three hours and examined her phones without informing
her of the reason for her detention, before she was officially arrested.
'She intended to visit her house'
But
in their response, the RCMP and the CBSA claim they did everything by
the book, flagging Meng for secondary inspection and then searching her
luggage while asking her about the purpose of her visit to Canada.
Meng's
trip to Vancouver has previously been described as a brief layover on
her way to Mexico City, but according to the response, she intended to
clear customs.
The
RCMP and CBSA claim Meng's electronic devices were seized but not
searched on her detention at Vancouver's airport in December, 2018. (Alexander Bibik/Reuters)
"The
plaintiff indicated that she was in transit to Mexico but that during
her layover, she intended to visit her house in Vancouver to drop off
some belongings," the response reads.
"Since the plaintiff was
intending to visit her house in Vancouver, the plaintiff proceeded to
the customs hall to claim her luggage."
The agencies claim that
Meng never asked to speak with a lawyer during the time in CBSA custody
before she was arrested. They also claim that the three hour wait was
not unusual to clear secondary inspection on a Saturday.
'So that data could not be remotely deleted'
The
response to the civil suit also claims neither the RCMP nor the U.S.
Department of Justice requested or suggested that the CBSA officers take
any course of action or line of questioning during Meng's detention.
But
they claim they did ask the CBSA to "protect any mobile phones that the
plaintiff might have by placing them in bags, which the RCMP supplied
to the CBSA, so that any data could not be remotely deleted."
Meng's
legal team are set to make a brief appearance in B.C. Supreme Court
this Thursday in preparation for a longer set of procedures in September
aimed at arguing for more disclosure around her detention and arrest.
Her lawyers have indicated
that they plan to ask a judge to dismiss the entire proceedings as a
result of alleged breaches of her rights. They also plan to argue that
she is the victim of political interference by U.S. President Donald
Trump.
Meng is not expected to attend the hearing this week.
In
response to her civil claim, the RCMP and the CBSA say Meng's
allegations against them are without merit. They are asking for her
civil suit to be dismissed with costs.
Jason
Proctor is a reporter in British Columbia for CBC News and has covered
the B.C. courts and mental health issues in the justice system
extensively.
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