Wednesday 3 July 2019

Cartoonist set to replace de Adder quits, says he 'wouldn't wish this on anyone'

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Imagine if it was your child or a gay dude or a father who worshiped some other god than the Christian one? Methinks you liberals would be greatly offended then N'esy Pas?

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Cartoonist set to replace de Adder quits, says he 'wouldn't wish this on anyone'




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George Halbert McKinney
The comments here seem to be warming up for the Federal election.
Maximize outrage / content. On EVERY side.



David R. Amos  
Reply to @George Halbert McKinney: Welcome to the Circus 




David R. Amos 
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Surprise Surprise Surprise



Kath Ayres
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but just how many great political cartoonists are there (in Canada)?


James Risdon 
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Reply to @Kath Ayres: One.


David R. Amos 
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Reply to @Kath Ayres: Methinks they think they all are N'esy Pas?





David R. Amos  
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 Methinks too bad so sad that folks will never know the whole story but the Irving Clan will be Happy Happy Happy about that simple fact and the that is what truly counts in New Brunswick N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos 
Methinks I should explain the reason why I posted so many comments within this tempest in a teapot N'esy Pas? 


David R. Amos 
I first saw this issue within Twitter and thought the Irving were entitled to fire the dude so I made one Tweet on the topic and let it go 


David R. Amos


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A couple days later CBC chimed in on the issue so I made 3 comments among a blizzard of thousands of comments Then one noname liberal pounced on all three so I responded to him in one thread and let it go. 
 
David R. Amos
Yesterday i woke up to a crybaby on the radio Lets just say that was the straw that broke the camel back. Methinks we have a lot more important things to be concerned about than this little circus N'esy Pas?










David Scott Barclay
We have freedom of speech. Unless a newspaper or the CBC doesn't 'like' it.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @David Scott Barclay: Oh So True You should see the pile of documents I sent to CBC byway pf a courier signature required in 2002 months after I had shown some of the stuff to Irving and Global reporters in person in Fredericton and Saint John


Michelle Roden
Reply to @David Scott Barclay: This has absolutley nothing to do with freedom of speech.


David R. Amos  
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Reply to @Michelle Roden: It certainly does when legit comments are blocked
 
 
David R. Amos  
Reply to @David R. Amos: Methinks ths is a little proof of the pudding N'esy Pas?




 



Doug McKenzie
"A false narrative," the best BNI can come up with, a trump statement no doubt.


Alex Johnston
Reply to @Doug McKenzie:

Don't forget their inclusion of the word "...recklessly...", an essential keyword in such releases.

To be clear, their point is essentially correct.

But it's still amusing to see them 'recklessly placing their naive faith' in the 'Thesaurus of Blatant Propaganda Vocabulary' while making their point.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Alex Johnston: Methinks you have a very interesting name N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos   
Reply to @Doug McKenzie: You do as well















Brent Grywinski
Who wants to work for a business when you make a editorial cartoon that will upset the powers that be and you are canned immediately afterwards?


Glen Williams 
Reply to @Brent Grywinski: You are wrong. It was in poor taste to incorporate a dead father and child into the cartoon. It was disgusting. Perhaps when you die a cartoon can be done of you dead in your casket with the casket open and a drink in your hand and someone put a cigarette in your mouth.


Harold Benson
Reply to @Glen Williams: Male cow feces.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Glen Williams: "You are wrong. It was in poor taste to incorporate a dead father and child into the cartoon. It was disgusting"

I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir 
 

Harold Benson
Reply to @David R. Amos: But, when the power pees you off, what can you do but yell.


Harold Benson  
Reply to @David R. Amos: See ya.


David R. Amos  
Content disabled
Reply to @Harold Benson: Methinks Sam forgot to tell you about Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?


Thomas Thompson 
Reply to @Glen Williams: It was a powerful political statement, which is the purpose and goal of most editorial cartoons. Nothing at all to do with taste, good, poor, or otherwise.


David R. Amos  
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Reply to @Thomas Thompson: Imagine if it was your child or a gay dude or a father who worshiped some other god than the Christian one? Methinks you liberals would be greatly offended then N'esy Pas?
 

Glen Williams
Reply to @Thomas Thompson: Disagree. It was with a dead child and father in it. Disgusting.


Dave Moyer
Reply to @Glen Williams: So what do you think of Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal"?


David R. Amos   
Reply to @Dave Moyer: Methinks you should as yourself why Swift published it anonymously N'esy Pas?


Noel Fowles 
Reply to @David R. Amos: why don't you give up on the "N'esy Pas" It has become juvenile and trite.


David R. Amos    
Reply to @Noel Fowles: Cry me a river 


David R. Amos
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Reply to @Noel Fowles: Methinks if CBC can block my indignation of a dude making a cartoon about the tragic demise of a father and child I should at least be permitted to have fun with my Chiac N'esy Pas?  

 
Pauline Tremblay
Reply to @Glen Williams:
That is not the same thing at all.



Pauline Tremblay 
Reply to @David R. Amos:
Really? That's childish.



David R. Amos 
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Reply to @Pauline Tremblay: Methinks I went from juvenile to childish some fast in the minds of snobby people Yet i will lay odds I am older than all of you. Further my political foe Dominic Leblanc is well aware that I was born and raised on the Bay of Fundy where everybody comprehends Chiac and has fun with it as well I am certain Marshall Button agrees N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos  

Reply to @Pauline Tremblay: Oh My My 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Pauline Tremblay: I am certain Marshall Button agrees N'esy Pas? 


Anne Bochan
Reply to @Glen Williams: the really disgusting part is Trumps apathy towards those in need. The big part of US foreign policy dwarfs any of the tradgedies depicted in that particular cartoon. The truly disgusting part is that neither Trump nor the Irvings give a damn about what happens in El Salvador as long as their needs are met. Do you get it now?????


Roy Richards 
Reply to @Brent Grywinski: 


the powerless?
David R. Amos 
Reply to @Roy Richards: Methinks some people with no names have more power than most folks would ever believe N'esy Pas? 
 
















Glen Williams
Perhaps this fool should have thought about how inappropriate and disgusting his cartoon was before releasing it. I have no sympathy for this guy no matter how much he hates Trump. It was demeaning to all the people that were in the cartoon.


Lee Lynn 
Reply to @Glen Williams: It was brilliant. And it's probably going to win a Pulitzer.

John Watson 
Reply to @Glen Williams:
Didn't you read the article? The cartoon had nothing to do with his firing. And if you liked it or not, it sure sparked a lot of debate, like a good political cartoon should. It's not supposed to be nice and pretty with flowers and unicorns.


Saneish Hsienas 
Reply to @Lee Lynn: A Pulitzer for what? Being absolutely wrong?

Glen Williams 
Reply to @Lee Lynn: It was sick.

Roy Richards
Reply to @Glen Williams:

we live in sick times. trying to disguise them as something else is dishonorable


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Roy Richards: I concur

David R. Amos  
Reply to @Glen Williams: Methinks its interesting how difficult it is to agree with you N'esy Pas?













Marguerite Deschamps
Dictators are not known for having a sense of humour.


Ronnie Garvin 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: What dictator?

David R. Amos   
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks the same could be said of a sneaky SANB dude pretending to be a woman N'esy Pas?












Jeremy Kemp
Media with a political slant should be boycotted out of existence.


Dave Arthur 
Reply to @Jeremy Kemp:
Start with Fox.


Steve Saunders 
Reply to @Dave Arthur: you misspelled cnn

Ron Martin 
Reply to @Steve Saunders:
Brilliant! A story on media coverage in Canada and the two channels the two of you come up with are American.


Steve Saunders
Reply to @Ron Martin: he started it.

Rod Tassé 
Reply to @Jeremy Kemp: The CBC should be de-funded out of existence.

John de Gruchy 
Reply to @Rod Tassé: Oh great, let's get rid of one of the last free and open news sources that is relatively reliable and informative. Then we can all pay for news generated by large corporations with special interests.

David Winters 
Reply to @Rod Tassé: "The CBC should be de-funded out of existence."

huh? get your head outta there...that is not a hat!


Dave Arthur 
Reply to @Ron Martin:
They may be American but their tendrils reach deep into Canada as both are readily available here.


Buddy Best 
Reply to @Rod Tassé: It should be either totally subsidized or entirely set free to find it's own way. You cannot serve two masters!!!!!! Either public or private. No half measures.. serve corporate or the people!!!

Buddy Best
Reply to @John de Gruchy: CBC is not longer "open" or "FREE". It is NOT Reliable or Informative any longer. It is funded in part through corporate advertisement that it must compete for. That drastically changes the water on the beans.

David R. Amos  
Reply to @Buddy Best: Methinks I must be fair to all although I am no fan of their malice practiced against me it speaks well of CBC to allow you to such a thing with a name that is rather hard to believe N'esy Pas?


Buddy Best
Reply to @David R. Amos: Judge not less ye be judged!!!


David R. Amos   
Reply to @Buddy Best: Methinks you should take you own advice N'esy Pas?












John Kelly
He got fired. He deserved it. Just more liberal moanong. Is there anything anymore you don’t cry about? Oh the sun came up this morning but there was a cloud in the sky! Booohooo


Dave Moyer
Reply to @John Kelly: No, Perry didn't get fired - you thinking of de Adder. If you're going to write silly rubbish like this, at least get the characters straight.


Noel Fowles 
Reply to @John Kelly: "He got fired. He deserved it." Really, for portraying someone as they really are? Shameful comment


Pauline Tremblay 
Reply to @John Kelly:
Still angry I see....need your stuffy??



David R. Amos 
Reply to @Noel Fowles: Methinks you are quite a trite juvenile dude too N'esy Pas? 
 

Roy Richards
Reply to @John Kelly:

it may be irrational to blame trump personally, but the american government appears to be on a course to produce armageddon through their pro israeli buffoonery. he is the scapegoat, and a very believable goat at that










Greg Smith
So far in one month BNI has blocked reports of just how little carbon tax they'll pay compared to NB taxpayers, and now muzzled a political cartoonist known for his critique of Trump. Is it any surprise that the wealthy oligarchs are looking after their own ilk? I bet the Irvings and Trumps use the same network of accountants in the Cayman Islands. 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Greg Smith: Methinks everybody knows the Irving Clan has been known to employ KPMG N'esy Pas?


Paul Bourgoin
Reply to @Greg Smith: Money is more powerful then Justice!


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Greg Smith: "So far in one month BNI has blocked reports "

Methinks everybody knows that BNI is not the only big media outfit that blocks the awful truth about things for the benefit of their overseer N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: "Money is more powerful then Justice!" 

Buddy Best
Methinks the dude the Yankees used to call "The Donald" knows very well that money always trumps justice N'esy Pas?

Reply to @Lee Hall: After Jack was taken from us the NDP tried in vain to attract more of the center and were left out in the cold. They can never roll that back. Green was deeply tarnished when Ms May over ruled the decision of the Party.


Buddy Best 
Reply to @Ronnie Garvin: I would have more respect for a pauper with integrity then a Trillionaire with none. I don't know of any millionaires I have much respect for. Money can buy you fame but not a soul. Son sad really. Intelligent people with very little compassion.
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Buddy Best: "After Jack was taken from us"

Yea Right

Methinks my distant cousin Jacky Boy Layton ha nothing to do with this spit and chew about the Irving Clan and its employees. N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Buddy Best: Methinks you may quote from you "Good Book" all you wish it does not change the fact that this article is about Greg Perry not wanting the job after the Irving Clan dragged his name through mud and feces at the Circus. I bet the pauper sues the billionaires Clever liberal lawyers can smell money through brick walls at 500 paces Everybody knows that N'esy Pas?


Daniel McKay 
Reply to @Greg Smith: "Is it any surprise that the wealthy oligarchs are looking after their own ilk?"

An elected, representative government is the only defence Canadian citizens have, left. And that government will not be formed by the Lib-Con party.



Daniel McKay 
Reply to @Lee Hall: "When both our two major political parties represent the oligarchy. While the NDP is eternally in the woods, and going absolutely no where fast."

It's a rotten conundrum, for sure. I think we are at a point, though where we have to choose the less detrimental of evils on the ballot form. Maybe the NDP has its head inserted fully up its navel, maybe the Greens are a political party with no real political affiliation,etc, but allowing the Lib-Con party to persist is surely the worst choice we can make right now.

Personally, I think we're better off stuffing a bunch of amateurs into Ottawa, and letting them learn through trial by fire. They'll stumble a bit, like any of us would, but will get their heads around the role soon enough. We need new, un-entitled minds at the tiller


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Daniel McKay: "Personally, I think we're better off stuffing a bunch of amateurs into Ottawa, and letting them learn through trial by fire"

Well said Sir

Methinks if you can walk the talk you should put your name on a ballot as an Independent just like I am preparing to do for the 7th and last time N'esy Pas?
















Al Clark
LOL this has already shaken irvnews' foundations so much that they've issued TWO explanations when they normally just ignore the news and hope it goes away, like the Hogan lawsuit and the TFW village in Chipman. Now things get hotter! I love it!!!!!


David R. Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: "Now things get hotter! I love it!!!!!"

Me Too Methinks its interesting that I would agree with you N'esy Pas? 



Al Clark
Reply to @David R. Amos: NSS!












Eileen Kinley
The fact that BNI contacted Perry a few weeks before axing de Adder does not mean de Adder's Trump cartoons were not a factor. From one of the earlier articles:

On Twitter, de Adder also said that every Trump cartoon he submitted for the past year was axed.

It *is* shameful that people on social media lashed out at Perry, to the point where he decided not to take the job. Having said that, given that BNI insisted on running his cartoon when he asked them not to he may be better off in the end.



David R. Amos 
Reply to @Eileen Kinley: Well put













Stephen Gillis
BNI sounds like a pretty sketchy organization from all this.


John Gerrits 
Reply to @Stephen Gillis: BNI(Irving)....New Brunswick......what's good for Irving is good for NB.....1 in the same.


David R. Amos
Reply to @John Gerrits: Methinks if you wanted to jerk an old dog's chain to hear him growl consider yourself a raging success However i will wager that was just a joke N'esy Pas?


Anton Pavlenko:
Reply to @David R. Amos: Your N'esy Pas is getting tired and should be retired.


John Goode
Reply to @Stephen Gillis: The Irving... they get what they want.


David R. Amos 
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Reply to @Anton Pavlenko: Methinks you forgot to ask me if I cared about your snobby foreign opinion of my fun with Chiac as I speak of things going on in my neighbourhood. After all I have no doubt Marshall Button would agree that it is a legit lingo to employ around and about the Bay Of Fundy which where I was born and raised and often run for public office N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos 
Reply to @Anton Pavlenko: Methinks for all I know you could be one of the Russians that helped Trump get elected byway of comment sections etc and perhaps you don't like me talking of your political pal N'esy Pas? 
 

Ron Weber aka Grendal
Reply to @David R. Amos: No. He's right. Sprinkling a N'esy pas like a bit of pepper here and there is fine but you put in every post, all the time and it is lame.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Ron Weber aka Grendal: Methinks the last opinion I should respect would come from a dude who likens himself to Grendel N'esy Pas? 
 

David R. Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Ron Weber aka Grendal: Methinks you should ask Trump or Iggy why my other reply to the dude with a Ukrainian name was blocked was blocked N'esy Pas? 
 

Nuclear Llama
Reply to @Anton Pavlenko: No kidding. Stopped reading his annoying style of writing long time ago.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Nuclear Llama: Methinks you will be relieved to know that I did not miss you N'esy Pas?













David Sampson
The Irvings need to attend to what they do best, bleed the system and pursue greed in all it's industrial colorful manners. They know absolutely nothing about journalism except they excise the power to control it if we ascend to their ignorance. Maybe it's time to intervene and stop fringe right wing industrialists from participation in media ownership!


David R. Amos 
Reply to @David Sampson: Methinks the Yankees have some pretty good laws that put a stop to monopolies Perhaps we should adopt a few N'esy Pas?











Richard McDonell
Two thoughts: First, being from the far side of the country, I know nothing of BNI, but so far they seem to be jerks.
Second: I really think the world was a better place before "social media." It seems to be a platform for internally ugly people to spout their hatred and drivel from a position of relative anonymity. 



David R. Amos 
Reply to @Richard McDonell: "I really think the world was a better place before "social media"

Methinks a as a long suffering blogger before there ever was such at thing I obviously strongly disagree as is my right particularly in light of the fact that the Irving Clan killed my first blog with Google in 2008 N'esy Pas?

BTW I cut my teeth raising political hell with Yankees within Yahoo Geo Cities and many Internet forums way back in the 1990's long before i ran for a seat in Parliament in 2004 or Google filed their IPO












Fred Brewer
I admire and respect Mr. Perry for withdrawing his acceptance of the BNI job. Having said that, and after viewing his first cartoon, I am beginning to see why BNI hired him in the first place. That's a very pro oil & gas cartoon if there ever was one.  


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: "I am beginning to see why BNI hired him in the first place. That's a very pro oil & gas cartoon if there ever was one."

Me too 












Johanna Pontin
I was reading that the owners of the newspapers is the Irving family, who are playing golf with Trumps. There may be a connection with the loss of employment for the cartoonist?


James Risdon
Reply to @Johanna Pontin: Probably not.
 
David R. Amos  
Reply to @Johanna Pontin: Methinks the Irving Clan are too cheap to play golf and I doubt that Trump even knows how to hunt ducks N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Are we having fun yet? 


James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: I am. How about you? Is there anything I can do to improve the quality of your life today?

 
Steph Millar
Reply to @David R. Amos: Some people don't know what that really means.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Steph Millar: Oh So True 

 
Lyn Ibson

Reply to @Johanna Pontin: Ya think?
After rejecting every cartoon de Adder submitted that unflattering to 45?


Roy Richards 
Reply to @Johanna Pontin:

furthermore, there is a likely connection to the scottish rite


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Roy Richards: Methinks you are not fond of my Forefathers and I N'esy Pas?











Shawn McShane
 Deer biologist who spent years working for the government of New Brunswick who said plunging deer populations in the province are part of a larger crisis in New Brunswick’s forests...just got fired...in this place.

Coincidence?



David R. Amos   
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Nope 
 











James Risdon
 Greg, You can't let the tin foil hat segment of the social media world dictate your life. It's your life and they're your cartoons and so it's your decision.

A lot of people on social media - and in a lot of media columns and websites these days - talk trash and say things they'd never have the guts to repeat to the face of the person they are attacking. In my view, such people are cowards and have no moral right to dictate how anyone will live his or her life.

Whatever you decide to do, Greg, I wish you well.



JJ Carrier
Reply to @James Risdon: Read the previous article when Perry was called out by that freaky looking fellow cartoonist as a lightweight...When you were part of our local media James, if you remember, in your Chaleur-Restigouche years we sometimes disagreed on coverage in our respective media but we 'pooled' at bigger events and rarely attacked each other in print or in person in such an unprofessional manner when we didn't see eye to eye...You sink or swim together...In the Bennett, Port of Belledune, Biker Wars, 2003 Canada Winter Games, and Belledune coverage, which were big files we always showed respect to each other from Gaspe to Miramichi...Methinks this cartoonist needs to apologize to Greg...Also, him saying de Adder is the best? Not as long as Terry Mosher is alive..

 
James Risdon 
Reply to @JJ Carrier: That's just one guy's opinion. It's not a big deal. Yes, back in the day journalists did show some sort of professional respect to one another. Even when they disagreed in private, in editorial story meetings or over a beer at the pub, they'd at least be civil to one another in public. Those days, alas, seem to be gone. These days, all bets are off, it seems.

I've been called everything from "a legend" and "the best journalist in New Brunswick" to stuff so negative and nasty that I can't repeat it here because I'm sure it wouldn't be tolerated. Let's just say not everyone is a fan. Far from it.

And that's okay.

We're all just doing the best we can, learning from our mistakes and moving forward. There will almost always be someone better than us - and someone all too ready to remind us of that fact. That's a good thing.

By accepting that we're not the best, we can also accept that there are things we can learn to become better.

Twenty years ago or so, I won journalism awards. Since then, I've learnt to build news websites, consulted on editorial projects for news organizations, learnt how to make videos, managed public meetings, overseen a trade show, handled e-commerce, set up a business, freelanced for a newspaper chain that didn't even exist back in the day, written and voiced over radio ads, hosted a cable TV show, run for public office - albeit unsuccessfully so far - three times, managed social media for a municipality, built a website for a local business - and taught myself to play the guitar and a bit of other stuff too.

The more I learn and the more I do, the more I realize I'm not the best and that I still have a lot to learn.

Greg Perry should hang in there. Right now, he's his own worst critic.  



David R. Amos 
Reply to @James Risdon: "Let's just say not everyone is a fan. Far from it"

Methinks that is true N'esy Pas?



James Risdon 
Reply to @David R. Amos: Everything I say is true. I am an incorrigibly honest straight shooter.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @James Risdon: So you say and I am just chopped liver correct?


James Risdon 
Reply to @David R. Amos: I've never made any claims about you being liver, chopped or otherwise. ;-)

David R. Amos  
Reply to @James Risdon: I am not laughing


James Risdon 
Reply to @David R. Amos: Well, you should. Laughter is, after all, the best medicine. Unless one has an actual, serious medical condition. Then, medicine is the best medicine.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @James Risdon: Tell that to the cops who assaulted me and see if they will laugh with you? 
 

Lou Parks
Reply to @David R. Amos:

Were you goin' on and on
"N'esy Pas" at the time?

If so, then that would've been
very irritating to those cops



JJ Carrier 
Reply to @JJ Carrier: And all my downvoters smell like cheese! I can sniff your jealousy from your basement apartments as you read my Irving archive stories lol


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Lou Parks: Methinks you talk just like a cop N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos  
Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks you smell just like an old fat dumb and happy Irving employee N'esy Pas? 


Chris Weston Chandler
Reply to @David R. Amos: Give the N'esy Pas crap a rest.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Chris Weston Chandler: Methinks you should scroll up You cannot deny that your pal Mr Risdon said "Laughter is, after all, the best medicine"

Hence I have every right to laugh at snobby Anglos who are upset with my having fun with Chiac N'esy Pas?













Albert Ford Upton
Editorial cartoons are meant to have social commentary and be thought provoking. The Trump cartoon depicts the attitude Trump has clearly displayed through his comments and actions. The cartoon is harsh but right on the money, and everyone knows it.
The publishers have cowed to weak kneed political correctness and should be ashamed of themselves.


 
Shane MacDonald
Reply to @Albert Ford Upton:

It isn't political correctness. It is financial self interest and seeking to appease the US overlord since the Irvings make a lot of their money south of the border.


Buddy Best
Reply to @Shane MacDonald: Irving is the 4th largest private land owner in the JUSA and Number1 in New England. That does not include all their other assets south of us. Canadians have paid for much of those expansions through lost Taxes and subsidies here. Our welfare or benefit was never a priority to the Empire.

David R. Amos  
Reply to @Shane MacDonald: BINGO













Shane MacDonald
So the Irving owned newspaper fired de Adder after a piece critical of Trump (not published in the paper) went viral, and followed that up with a cartoon sympathetic to the oilpatch and pipeline crowd. Lol.
The crazy part is that some people acknowledge the obvious connection to Irving's US financial interests and are still okay with what transpired.



David R. Amos 
Reply to @Shane MacDonald: Methinks in nutshell a dude got canned because BNI did not appreciate his work so he started crying in Twitter and now everybody is upset N'esy Pas?








 


Richard O'Mara
What else would you expect from a one family run province. It's so bad, you can't even have kids set up a lemonade stand without the Irving's setting one up next to it. When you get black balled on a job in New Brunswick.... you really have no where else to go, except leave the province  


David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard O'Mara: "What else would you expect from a one family run province"

Methinks if you thinks the Irving Clan are bad better Check out my wife's' Clans in Massachusetts. Your last name dictates to me that you must have heard of the Kickhams, the Kennedys and the O'Mearas N'esy Pas?












Andy Macphail
Brunswick News has turfed a lot of good journalism people over the years.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Andy Macphail: Please name just one 















Andrew Ogden

Agree or disagree with the cartoon, i kind of think that is the point of political satire, to cause waves and start a discussion. Seems everyone wants freedom of expression until it goes after their own political leanings or feelings. Double standards all over the place.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Andrew Ogden: "Double standards all over the place" 
 
 
 
 
 












Larry Czainski
Another blatant example of one powerful family dumbing down the collective intelligence of the Maritimes; low wages, monopoly on jobs & resources, disregard for freedom of speech. Oh Canada!

David R. Amos   
Reply to @Larry Czainski: One Clan and one Crown Corp











Grant Bablitz
Political Cartoonists are an essential service and must be allowed to exercise their craft freely and without censorship.


Mark Smith
Reply to @Grant Bablitz: freedom of speech is an essential service. Doesn’t matter if political cartoonist, liberal, conservative, democrat, republican.. the ability to speak freely is essential to ALL Canadians and Americans.

David R. Amos  
Reply to @Grant Bablitz: Methinks freedom of speech has it limits in both law and decency N'esy Pas?


Patty Bosse
Reply to @David R. Amos: It does. Neither lines were crossed in this case.

Maybe the lack of decency you saw was Trump's actions towards refugees and migrants, then in that case I tend to agree with you. The cartoonist should be applauded for exposing uncomfortable truths, n'est-ce pas?



David R. Amos 
Reply to @Patty Bosse: Methinks you should check history The crybaby's cartoon was NEVER published until after he was fired he posted it himself within Twitter. Now he admits to making a major faux pas because if you bother to read this article you may understand that it is about another dude who got dragged into this circus by the Irving Clan N'esy Pas?
















Tyler Drapeau
Dear Cartoonist,

Be who you are. Just because the people lashing at you are emotionally unstable enough to not have the capacity to effectively process their thoughts and emotions and communicate with you in a reasonable way. Don't let their issues of mashing their identity with a polarized political system or moralistically challenged leader overwhelm you.

That is their baggage not yours. And they should quit projecting it on you, and look at their own selves.

Move on with your life. They aren't worth you time, energy or mental health.

Cheers.



David R. Amos
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Reply to @Tyler Drapeau: in nutshell methinks you mean the dude got canned because BNI did not appreciate his work so he should quit crying and move on N'esy Pas? 



David R. Amos
Reply to @David R. Amos: Oh My My does the truth hurt?










Greg Donaldson
so, the company has admitted that they could have announced the firing 2 weeks ago , or they could have announced it 2 weeks from now, chose instead to announce it a the time where it would do the most damage to his career. Caught red handed in a deliberate attempt to mess him up real good. Freelancers should boycott the newspapers.


Roy Richards
Reply to @Greg Donaldson:

this story is about the guy who replaced him, and has become a pariah on fäkbook


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Greg Donaldson: Who cares? Methinks the dude lost his job because the Irving's did not like his work. That happens every day all day long in New Brunswick snd everywhere else N'esy Pas? 
 

Roy Richards
Reply to @Greg Donaldson: Who cares? Methinks the dude lost his job because the Irving's did not like his work. That happens every day all day long in New Brunswick snd everywhere else N'esy Pas?



David R. Amos
Reply to @Roy Richards: I repeat who cares? Methinks not Trump or Trudeau How quick we forget Stevey Boy Harper stashing crackers N'esy Pas?











Lee Hall
Reminds me of the White House Correspondents Dinner Last year, when comedian Michelle Wolf absolutely devastated Trump, Kellyanne Conway, and others with truthful satire. She was incredible with her take downs. And of course she was replaced with a 'compliant' administration approved comedian for this year.


Henry Savage 
Reply to @Lee Hall: lolol

“I actually really like Sarah. I think she’s very resourceful. But she burns facts and then she uses that ash to create a perfect smokey eye. Like maybe she’s born with it, maybe it’s lies. It’s probably lies.”


Lee Hall 
Reply to @Henry Savage: 


<--- a="" accurate="" air="" among="" and="" brave="" breath="" elites.="" extremely="" fresh="" full="" her="" in="" michelle="" of="" satire.="" she="" span="" the="" themselves="" very="" was="" washington="" wolf="">
Ronnie Garvin 
Reply to @Lee Hall: She didn't "devastate" anything. Her jokes were terrible, her voice was excruciating, she attacked a women's physical looks and celebrated aborting your baby extra hard. Of course though anything against Trump regardless of how hate filled is powerful, brave, beautiful art.

Lee Lynn 
Reply to @Ronnie Garvin: She didn't attack a woman's physical looks -- she made a hilarious and very true joke about a woman's constant lying and spinning of the reality of this travesty of an administration. Believe me, if she wanted to make a joke about Sanders' looks, there's a lot of other material to work with than her eye makeup.

Roy Richards
Reply to @Lee Lynn:

women focus on the small things


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Lee Hall: "of course she was replaced with a 'compliant' administration approved comedian for this year"

Methinks I should ask what would you do if you were Trump I bet you would do the same N'esy Pas?













Shawn McShane
Q) How many newspapers in New Brunswick are owned by the Irving's?

A) All of them.

Q) How many politicians in New Brunswick are owned by the Irving's?



Elim Garak: 
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Q) What's the mean age of a newspaper reader? A) 125 years.

David R. Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Q) Who Cares?












Derek Long
De Adder was treated the same way they treated cartoonists in Germany during the 1930s.


James Risdon 
Reply to @Derek Long: Oh, good grief! Okay, we've officially hit the bottom of the barrel.
 
Steph Millar
Reply to @James Risdon: Fee-fees?  


David R. Amos 
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks you should know N'esy Pas? 


James Risdon 
Reply to @Steph Millar: I don't understand what that is supposed to mean.


James Risdon  
Reply to @David R. Amos: Hunh? 


Roy Richards
Reply to @Derek Long:

having a french sounding name is enough to make the masses salivate with bloodlust 












Mac Isaac
It seems to me that, from a rational point of view, BNI papers have, over the last year or two begun deliberately (I think) slanting most, if not all of their news, including columns written by their editor or editors...I'm actually not at all certain that there isn't just one dyed-in-blue "journalist" hacking away at his/her keyboard and delivering what passes as news for him/her. In any event almost ALL of the news IS slanted to the right side of the body politic. I don't pretend to know the reason(s) why, but when almost all "opinion" comes from some of the most rabidly right wing types in either Canada or the United States. This slant, while I and many others have remained silent....hell, some probably even agree and there are loud cheers of "PILE ON GOOD FELLOWS! PILE ON!"... has become even more egregious and what put the "icing on the cake" for me personally was NOT how summarily deAdder was let go, but rather one of his comments about his dismissal when he admitted that BNI's grand poobah emphatically told him that anything that smacked of admiration or support for anything or anybody Liberal OR anything that smacked of ridicule or taking to task of anybody Conservative/P.C....such as Higgs and his cronies would be totally unacceptable and wouldn't be published. Silly old me, I had been thinking that it was deAdder who had this massive problem with the Liberals and Justin Trudeau. Come to find out, Mr. deAdder is simply a cartoonist, and a damned fine one too when he'a allowed to venture out in the political satire where he really belongs.
The point I hope I'm making is: there are undoubtedly many in this Province who support a right wing agenda and there are many others who don't. Don't you think BNI should let us decide who we want speaking for us?



James Risdon 
Reply to @Mac Isaac: No. Brunswick News owns the newspapers. It is therefore up to them to hire whomever they wish. You don't get to vote on that and neither do I.

Now, it might be a good business practice for Brunswick News to accurately reflect the demands for information and entertainment and advertising of their target market. But, then again, it might not.

If the overall business interests of the Irvings are best served by one type of newspaper, then that's probably what they'll give you. If you don't like it, you can try to set up your own newspaper and compete with them. That's a pretty tough thing to do but you're free to try it if you think you can make a go of it.

In the interests of public discourse and democracy, I would encourage you to start a newspaper with a different editorial voice but, given the shape of the newspaper industry in Canada these days, I would not be doing you a favour to encourage newspapers as a business investment.

The fact is that the industry and consumer behaviour has changed when it comes to news and publishers have not yet adapted to the new paradigm.



David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: "If you don't like it, you can try to set up your own newspaper and compete with them."

Methinks you forgot your pals in the Irving Clan using KPMG and "Anton Piller" nonsense against Langdon years ago N'esy Pas?

Rare search order used to seize documents from former Irving publisher
CBC News · Posted: Oct 10, 2007 7:35 PM AT

"Brunswick News Inc. has used a little-known legal procedure to allow the search of ahome of a former newspaper publisher to try to ensure he doesn't use confidential information to start his own publication.

William Kenneth Langdon resigned as publisher of the Woodstock Bugle-Observer on Sept. 19 and has since opened the office of the Carleton Free Press, which is expected to launch its first issue in November.

In his resignation letter,which he has filed with the court, Langdon cited harassment by Brunswick News vice-president Victor Mlodecki and disillusionment with company management practices that included orders to drive Irving's competitors out of business as key factors in his decision to step away from the company where he had worked for more than a decade."

"Court-appointed officials from KPMG Canada conducted a search of Langdon's office, home and vehicle on Sept. 27.

Several documents, including cash-flow breakdowns, advertising rate analysis, income statements, flyer routes and a resume were seized.

"They went through piles of documents, they went through my desk drawers, they went through everything that was on and in the filing cabinet," Langdon told CBC News.

Langdon's affidavit states the seized documents were material he brought home in the evenings for further review while working as publisher and have no valuein starting a new newspaper."



BrianKirkland Smith
Reply to @James Risdon: So "it might be a good business practice for Brunswick News to accurately reflect the demands for information and entertainment and advertising of their target market"! That is against the principles of journalism.
You do not reflect information for a target market, that is the principle of fake news.
Editorials may reflect opinion, editorial cartoonist reflect a satirical opinion.
Journalists reflect factual information, that is principle 101 in journalism school.



James Risdon 
Reply to @David R. Amos: I hadn't forgotten that at all. Anyone can still start a newspaper in New Brunswick. The Irvings will be tough competitors. Everyone knows that and I am not claiming otherwise.


James Risdon 
Reply to @BrianKirkland Smith: All news that is produced is written for a target demographic. Canadian newspapers do not routinely publish facts about minor crimes in China and Africa. They do not publish scientific research papers in their entirety. They do not republish corporate annual reports. News is produced for the people who consume it.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks you should research the term propaganda then check your work Clearly you are working hard promoting yourself N'esy Pas? My question is to whom? 
 

James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: How so?


Bernice White
Reply to @David R. Amos: We are ALL so sick already of your stupid n'esy pas phrase which you struggle to put in every one of your foolish replies...sigh


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Bernice White: Methinks you should take a couple of aspirins and go to bed and get up early so you can call infomorning in order to whine to them just like the not so funny dude did today about losing a little work Maybe Seguin will care about my fun with Chiac being offensive to you N'esy Pas?
 

Mac Isaac
Reply to @James Risdon: I do not dispute the fact that BNI owns the newspaper, but that's really not my point. Newspapers are supposed to be providing NEWS and sometimes opinion, whereas the BNI newspapers are actually disguising their preferred opinion as news...they do this by selectively choosing only those writers (they cannot be described as journalists), editorialists and cartoonists that either espouse their preferred view and opinions or are willing to suppress their own true values and opinions for the sake of their pay cheque. For instance, Mr. Perry quickly resigned after this deAdder fiasco and BNI quickly tossed in an Edmonton Journal (ardently anti-Liberal/ anti-Trudeau; rabidly ardent Conservative) editorial cartoon. Some cartoonists are willing to suppress their biases; some aren't. Some newspaper people have a desire to espouse journalistic standards and others couldn't care less and the result is real "fake news". Fake news doesn't do justice to either the truth or true conservative (note he lower case "c") causes and harms all democratic ideals.
Newspapers, as in what oldsters called "hard copies" will soon cease to exist, but news WILL carry on in on-line forms and I think it's important that in whatever form we get the news, it be as unbiased and truthful as possible...realizing, OF COURSE, that there will always be some level of bias in whatever is written or spoken.



David R. Amos
Reply to @Mac Isaac: Very Well Put Sir Methinks I should ask why you make fun of you own name? You should be proud of your words N'esy Pas?















James Risdon:
You know, most of you are forgetting a very important thing. U.S. President Donald Trump doesn't care about you.

He doesn't care about your views on the Irvings. He doesn't care about Brunswick News. And he certainly doesn't care if Michael de Adder produces yet another cartoon in the media mocking him.

Trump probably couldn't even find New Brunswick on the map, much less care what all of you and de Adder think of him.

He's the president of the United States of America, one of the world's super-powers. Last year, the United States had a gross domestic product of $20.5 TRILLION U.S. dollars. That's 10 times the economy of our entire country.

New Brunswick is very small potatoes in this bigger scheme of things.

It would be ridiculous for the Irvings to think Trump would somehow be so incensed by one editorial cartoon in their papers in our tiny province that he would take any sort of action against their business interests.

Whatever happened between de Adder and Brunswick News almost certainly has nothing to do with Trump. To believe otherwise is to think the Irvings are paranoid and Trump is an overly-sensitive childish brat.

They're not. And, whatever his other failings, Trump is not either.



Edward Bach
 Reply to @James Risdon:
You were doing fine until you said that Trump is not "an overly-sensitive childish brat".



Goodbye Gye 
Reply to @James Risdon: he may not care today but he will care some day......you can count on it ;)


Robert Brannen
You have no understanding of the egomaniacal personality.


David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks your political party leader should have told you to Google the folllowing N'esy Pas?

Trump Cohen Amos NAFTA TPP FATCA 



James Risdon
 Reply to @Goodbye Gye: So. you're saying that in addition to following and fighting all the media in the United States and holding the highest office of that super-power, you think U.S. President Donald Trump is intelligent enough and cares enough about New Brunswick to monitor and react to political cartoons here?

Think about that. Do you really hold Trump in such high esteem?

Me, I think he's got his hands full trying to run the United States with everything the Democrats are throwing at him and the troubles within his own party. I just can't see Trump sitting in the Oval Office, his feet up on the desk, chuckling over de Adder's cartoons in the Brunswick News papers.

But, hey, maybe de Adder has that kind of clout. He's very good. I'll give him that.

I just don't think Trump cares enough about this to be bothered. It would seem to be completely contrary to what we've seen of his character to think he's some kind of fragile shrinking violet easily offended by a political cartoon in what must seem to him to be the backwoods of North America



James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: I don't have a political party leader


James Risdon 
Reply to @Robert Brannen: Maybe not. 
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: "I don't have a political party leader"

Did the KISS Party grow tired of you too?.



James Risdon
Reply to @Edward Bach: Well, I had to appease him in case he reads my comments here and gets upset and takes legal or financial action against me. ;-) 


James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: Not to the best of my knowledge. As soundly defeated as I was in the last election, I did, after all, get the most votes of any of the KISS candidates. But the KISS party no longer exists. So, my statement still holds. I have no party leader. Not that it would be relevant to this conversation anyways. It's not like KISS had a direct line to the White House or was being backed by the Irvings.


Harold Benson 
Reply to @James Risdon: i'll bet you vote libby


James Risdon 
Reply to @Harold Benson: Oh? 
 


David R. Amos

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Reply to @James Risdon: "I did, after all, get the most votes of any of the KISS candidates"

Methinks if you measure a dude's integrity by the number of votes they get then Trump and Trudeau should be your heroes and I am just chopped liver N'esy Pas? 


James Risdon 
Reply to @David R. Amos: I never claimed integrity was tied to votes. And i never claimed you're any sort of liver. ;-)


Pauline Tremblay 
Reply to @James Risdon:
You must be on the wrong thread. The cartoon IS meant to be political and it IS most definitely about Trump!!! Trump IS an overly-sensitive childish brat" and we all know that.



James Risdon 
Reply to @Pauline Tremblay: And you think the cartoon was the reason for the dismissal?


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Robert Brannen: "You have no understanding of the egomaniacal personality."

Methinks people who possess such a thing do not recognize it in themselves N'esy Pas?


James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: You tell us. ;-)


Neil Vukosa 
Reply to @James Risdon: Thinking the cartoon was the only plausible reason reaffirms a belief structure. One shouldn't expect to reason with a belief structure.


Anne Bochan
Reply to @James Risdon: not small potatoes to the Irvings though. It matters a lot to them.

Roy Richards
Reply to @James Risdon:

their net product is much less impressive. the US is a debt circus


James Risdon 
Reply to @Neil Vukosa: Based on the results of my interactions here, it would appear you are right.

David R. Amos  
Reply to @James Risdon: "You tell us. ;-)"

Methinks I would enjoy reading your explanation as to where my comment about Integrity went You did respond to it N'esy Pas?










Jonathan Lemon
BNI's handling of this is a PR disaster.


James Risdon 
Reply to @Jonathan Lemon: Not necessarily. For one thing, it's not over yet. They still have time to turn this around. And, secondly, they've got everyone talking about their newspapers and curious to see the editorial cartoons. That's a lot of free publicity.

David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Yea Right Methinks you are hustling for a job N'esy Pas? 

 
Jonathan Lemon

Reply to @James Risdon: 1. I see no way to turn this around, other than to give it time and hope it just goes away. 2. They have no cartoonist, so nothing to show. The days of "any publicity is good publicity" are long gone my friend.

















 
 

Kenneth Hewer
we've been bamboozled for 200 yrs into believing that the press/media is the 4th estate of the government.


James Risdon 
Reply to @Kenneth Hewer: Given that Canada is only 152 years old, that hardly seems possible.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks some folks know that New Brunswick was founded in 1784 right after my Loyalist Forefathers landed here. However the Crown forgot to create a Constitution for us so we have to rely on the Federal one that was created about 100 years later for our civil rights etc. I bet you didn't know that the Forefathers of your Irving buddies came over from Scotland on the same boats my Amos Forefathers did about 25 years later N'esy Pas?


James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: Didn't know. Don't care. But why do you think the Irvings are my "buddies"? I don't recall ever even meeting one of them. The closest I ever got to the Irvings was our regular editorial meetings with Jamie Irving back about 14 years ago or so. And - this may surprise you - Jamie has not kept in touch.

You seem to have a bunch of assumptions about me weighing on you. What's up with that?



David R. Amos 
Reply to @James Risdon: Didn't know. Don't care.

EXACTLY 

 

Roy Richards:
Reply to @Kenneth Hewer:

people talk about the media as if they are beyond reproach. trump figured that much out, but he has twisted his believers into thinking that more, and not less censorship is what would heal the world














Dan Burli
A cartoonist is exactly what a stand up comedian is. You can't censor them. You cringe, laugh or whatever move on. There is no politically correct jokes or caricatures. I'm sure after the Trump one he would have done one to meditate the outradgeous one.


David R. Amos
Reply to @Dan Burli: Methinks you can also not employ a nasty stand up comedian in your venue if you don't wish to N'esy Pas? 
 

Lee Lynn
Reply to @David R. Amos: Absolutely. But as a news organization you don't get to operate in a vacuum -- your decisions are public and up for debate and judgement... n'est ce pas?


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Lee Lynn: Methinks that is a rather moot point considering all the debates about this topic around the world N'esy Pas?


Roy Richards
Reply to @David R. Amos:

the phrase is n'est pas



David R. Amos  
Reply to @Roy Richards: NOPE 










 


Richard O'Mara
New Brunswick iis made up of two factions, both entirely opposite of the other, In the east, you have the waspish, tight shorted, narrow shoe type of business people, who worship the Irvings, and in the north coast, you have the Acadians, who are mainly free wheeling type of business person.... It's a wonder how the two types get along.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Richard O'Mara: Methinks you forgot the legions of decent ordinary folk in between N'esy Pas?










Lou Bell
Deflection. Irving tried deflecting to justify dismissing De Adder and got caught ! That's their template , the " little guy " is always to blame somehow.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Yea Right Methinks that why you and your cohorts attack me N'esy Pas? 
 

Wayne Underhill:
Reply to @Lou Bell: the little guy that,s always the plan













Mark Johnston
Who would have guessed the people that make a living out of insulting people would have such thin skin?
(Hand raised) Me.



Kenneth Gourlay
Reply to @Mark Johnston: I'm not certain it is a sign of having a thin skin to complain about having your contract terminated. Having said that, social media had no business piling on the replacement artist.

Mark Johnston 
Reply to @Kenneth Gourlay: They both were a whining.

David R. Amos
Reply to @Kenneth Gourlay: I agree

David R. Amos
Reply to @Mark Johnston: Methinks many agree that Mr Perry has every right to whine I bet you would too N'esy Pas?











Wayne Wood
Good on you, Mr. Perry!


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Wayne Wood: I concur





Cartoonist set to replace de Adder quits, says he 'wouldn't wish this on anyone'

Greg Perry says social media backlash has 'destroyed' his character and cartoons

The cartoonist who was set to replace Michael de Adder at Brunswick News Inc. says he no longer wants to work for the company and asked that his cartoons be kept off the editorial pages of its newspapers.

In a statement to CBC News, Greg Perry said the social media backlash after BNI parted ways with de Adder, then used his name in statements about the decision, has taken a toll.

"I don't use social media, but person/persons who do have used it to essentially destroy my character and my cartoon work.





"All this over a job that pays the same per month as a job at a grocery chain. I wouldn't wish this on anyone."
The Halifax-based de Adder was let go last week, just days after his cartoon depicting U.S. President Donald Trump playing golf next to the bodies of two dead migrants went viral.

His supporters on social media took up de Adder's cause, accusing BNI of dropping the cartoonist for business reasons having to do with the Irving interests that own BNI not wanting to antagonize Trump.

In a statement, BNI has said that letting de Adder go was not related to the Trump cartoon.

"The decision to bring back reader favourite Greg Perry was made long before this cartoon, and negotiations had been ongoing for weeks," said the newspaper chain, which owns all three English-language dailies in the province and almost all of the weeklies.

BNI called before Trump cartoon


Perry's statement on Wednesday confirmed that BNI made its offer weeks before de Adder posted his Trump cartoon. He said a BNI representative contacted him at the beginning of June to ask him to start working for the newspapers again. He previously worked alongside de Adder, but was let go two years ago.

Perry, who lives in Vancouver, said he didn't accept the offer immediately but weighed his options during the next two weeks. He finally accepted the offer "at the urging of some friends and family members," he said.

On Friday, he was asked to provide cartoons he'd already drawn in case de Adder decided he didn't want to work the two-week departure agreement.

Then "several critical events" took place over the long weekend, Perry said. These included a social media backlash after de Adder tweeted that he was let go from Brunswick News after 17 years.




Halifax-based Michael de Adder announced on Friday that Brunswick News Inc. would no longer be using his cartoons. (Mairin Prentiss/CBC)


Perry said the resulting social media outrage, and the "the resulting attacks on me after BNI used my name in a clarification story etc. — caused me to change my mind" about accepting the offer.

He said he informed BNI that "it would be best if they found someone else to draw cartoons."

The chain "insisted on running the cartoons I'd provided way back on Friday, despite my asking them not to," said Perry, whose work also appears in the Toronto Star.

Perry said he has not drawn any cartoons specifically for BNI since he accepted, then rejected, the company's offer.


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