Friday, 18 October 2019

Follow your head or your heart: A progressive voter's strategic struggle

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Methinks if Professor Tony Myatt were Pro Life then he would not caste a vote at all in Fat Fred City because all the candidates support funding abortion N'esy Pas? 


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/progressive-voter-strategic-voting-federal-election-1.5325464




Follow your head or your heart: A progressive voter's strategic struggle

Fredericton man wrestling with voting Liberal out of fear for Conservative victory



Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Oct 18, 2019 6:00 AM AT





Economics professor Tony Myatt says he's struggling with voting Liberal to help block the Conservatives or to go with his heart and vote Green. (CBC)

Tony Myatt's exactly the kind of voter Justin Trudeau was talking about when the Liberal leader swooped into Fredericton earlier this week with a plea to progressive voters.

"For me, the defining issue is climate change," Myatt said Thursday morning in an interview at his home. "I believe there's a climate emergency. It's very, very serious, very dire. We need action."

But the economics professor at the University of New Brunswick has spent the last week agonizing about how to achieve that at the ballot box.


"We need to stop the Conservatives from gaining power," he said. "So my heart is to vote Green, but if voting Green allows the Conservatives to win, that would be really bad. So I'm looking at the numbers and worrying."

The Liberals have been sliding in the polls, prompting Trudeau to warn left-leaning voters that choosing a party other than his may divide what he calls the "progressive" vote, allowing Andrew Scheer's Conservatives to form a government.


Justin Trudeau made a campaign stop in Fredericton on Tuesday. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

In most areas of the country, Trudeau's aiming at the NDP, which has been gaining support.

But in Fredericton Liberal fears are centred on the Greens, who have a strong provincial base.
"If you want progressive action, you need a progressive government, not a progressive opposition," Trudeau said during an appearance at the home of a supporter.

He called his climate plan "the most ambitious plan Canada has ever had. … We've done more than any other government in the history of this country."


Trudeau has introduced a carbon tax that applies in provinces that have not adopted their own price on carbon, including New Brunswick.
 

Many progressive voters are wrestling with the strategic vote question this election. (Al MacCormick/CBC)

But he hasn't laid out a realistic way to get to Canada's goals under the Paris climate agreement. He has adopted the previous Harper government's emissions-reductions targets, which fall short of that goal.

"What Trudeau has implemented so far has been insufficient," Myatt said. "Obviously he's planning to go further, but the plan as it's announced doesn't nearly go far enough."

Still, he said he'd be "devastated" if Conservative candidate Andrea Johnson was elected in Fredericton thanks to a Liberal-Green split, and if that in turn helped bring Scheer to power.

Doing his homework


So Myatt has been studying poll numbers and seat-projection sites carefully.

"I was just letting it play out," he said. "It fluctuated a bit over the last few days. Yesterday it seemed like the best way I could vote was Green, and now it's changed again."

Myatt's familiar with strategic-voting arguments. In 2010 he ran provincially for the New Brunswick NDP, a party often on the losing end of that equation.

He's been consulting one strategic-voting site, VoteWell, which advises voters how to defeat Conservatives. Until Thursday, its recommendation for Fredericton was the Green Party, and party members shared that widely on social media.

But Thursday morning, based on the latest polling, the site's recommendation switched to the Liberals.
Seat-projection sites are not based on riding-level polls. They use national trends to project how much party support will swing compared to the last election in individual races.

Fredericton Liberal candidate Matt DeCourcey said it's "absurd" to think the Green Party can win, pointing out that the party won 12.4 per cent of the vote last time, far below what seat projection sites were showing.

"Polls don't vote, people vote," DeCourcey said.

Still, Myatt said projections of a close three-way race this time have him thinking he should give up on a strategic vote altogether.

"It's a little bit impossible to get your strategic vote right with it being this tight, so in the end you just have to go with what you want in this riding, in this situation," Myatt said.

"It's so tight and there's such a big margin of error in the projections that I may as well just vote with my heart."

'They're voting for what they want'


Fredericton Green candidate Jenica Atwin said she has encountered voters who are torn.

"This is how they want to vote," she said. "They feel good about voting Green, but they're stuck with that fear again about what could happen."

But Atwin said she's been able to persuade many of them that the Liberals will disappoint them, as she said they did after rallying the left-wing vote in 2015.


Jenica Atwin is the Green Party candidate for Fredericton. (CBC)

"They're really voting with their hearts this time. They're not buying this kind of fear-mongering that they have to vote this way or that's going to be the outcome," Atwin said. "They're voting for what they want."

Myatt is almost there, but he's still not 100 per cent sure.

"I think I'm pretty close," he said, adding that Trudeau's last-minute plea in Fredericton was actually counterproductive.

"I was thinking that way anyway and it was embarrassing to have him saying that, like that's his schtick, especially given the fact that he was promising proportional representation, which would have avoided this problem.

"So I find that annoying rather than anything else … although it's true what he's saying. Annoyingly true."











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David Raymond Amos
Methinks if Professor Tony Myatt were Pro Life then he would not caste a vote at all in Fat Fred City because all the candidates support funding abortion N'esy Pas? 







 



David Raymond Amos
Spin much for Trudeau? Why should anyone take Tony Myatt's advice?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Geez now I hear him on CBC right now

Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
"The fixx" is certainly in for Mr Trudeau, the least deserving candidate, if the polls don't get any better expect a national apology on TV Sunday, with a choke, a sigh or two, and maybe a tear. If someone thinks there will be any mileage in it we may get to see Maggie "gush" for her son. This is pitiful and rates a full blast pity party Tuesday if JT doesn't make the cut.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not doubt Mr Dressup will don his Puddles costume


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks some folks would understand why I would love to see your hero Harper 2.0 sing my favourite Puddles Pity Party tune "Mad World" after a coalition of other questionable parties shows him the door in the upcoming Circus commonly known as the 43rd Parliament N'esy Pas?
























David Raymond Amos
Whereas Harper 2.0 is in Fat Fred City today methinks he and Professors Michael Higgins and Professor Tony Myatt should go to Federal Court and pull File No: T-1557-15 from the docket and discuss the lawsuit I filed against the Queen when the Yankee Mr Scheer was the Speaker of the House. Professor Higgins can explain why I sued Cardinal Bernard Law in Beantown in 200 and Myatt can explain my concerns about financial crimes at the same time N'esy Pas?
















David Raymond Amos
Last night in Hampton the debate should have been considered just another a Green Party meet and greet. Even their old farmer friend caused a little circus as his left in disgust and caused a little circus while the wannabe Green MP was speaking Methinks everybody why I had a good time N'esy Pas?













David Raymond Amos
Methinks some folks in Fat Fred City must recall the CBC protests when the liberals locked them out the summer before the election of the 39th Parliament which Harper won N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks anyone can Google the following for a little Deja Vu byway of the Green Party's favourite blogger in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?

Charles Leblanc Gold Found in Sussex













David Raymond Amos
Golly gosh Batman ERntire threads are going "Poof' already


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks I touched nerve when I mentioned a long lost wife in Katmandu N'esy Pas?


Marc Bourque
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: so much for free speech when its bought and paid for with liberal $$$


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Oh So True


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Must be a "poof" morning. I had a 5 word post, got 167 likes, went poof.
And to clarify "poof" as in disappear, not the other kind in Hertfordshire. 

 

Michel Jones
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: It happened to you too eh! 


David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Michel Jones: You know why as well as I Your comment against me went "Poof" as well EH?













Mike Morton
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A tenured professor is just as out of touch (if not more) with everyday Canadians as the trust fund brat we have for Prime Minister now. Nonsense article.


 
David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Methinks he is just another NDP dude who turned Green N'esy Pas?


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Its not nonsense at all. It makes some very good points.


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Why would you assume a professor is out of touch?


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Its a simple question.


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Run away from your own post?
 
Mike Morton 
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I know many


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: So do I ..I find them quite in touch with reality.


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: May I ask you ..do you believe in man made climate change?


Mike Morton 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: I don't agree


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Apparently..


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: You view them as elites?


Mike Morton 
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Yes, but I don't buy into the mass extinction narrative.


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: The 2 go hand in hand.


Mike Morton  
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Nope disconnected with the world, connected to their research


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: You think incorrectly, Mr Nessypas.


David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Methinks at the very least I have a real name that can be found on a ballot in this election N'esy Pas?


Mike Morton  
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I disagree


Tim Biddiscombe    
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Reply to @Mike Morton: How do you link the two? I know many folks who are connected to their jobs that are still connected to the world and vice versa.


David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Why wast your precious time with a noname spin doctor?


Mike Morton 
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: As do I


Tim Biddiscombe  
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks you will get less than 1% of the vote like you did last time.


David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: How many votes do you get?


Mike Morton
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I'll trigger the bot soon


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: As opposed to a candidate who was humiliated at the polls?


Tim Biddiscombe 
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Reply to @Mike Morton: What bot?


David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Cool


Tim Biddiscombe
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I didnt run. But you did and got humiliated ..we both know that. You're doing it again? sucker for punishment..


David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks everybody knows how he went on and on and on the other night N'esy Pas?


Tim Biddiscombe
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: He's basically lunatic fringe.

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David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: "He's basically lunatic fringe."

BINGO.



Tim Biddiscombe
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: You went on and on..


SarahRose Werner
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Reply to @Mike Morton: Funny thing about the phrase "everyday Canadians" - everyone claims to be one. Almost everyone claims to be able to point out examples of people who aren't, but no one ever points to themselves. 
















SarahRose Werner 
"especially given the fact that he was promising proportional representation, which would have avoided this problem" - Bingo. One of the reasons I voted Liberal in 2015 was that Trudeau was promising electoral reform (I don't think he ever specified what type). He reneged on that promise and on others. Voting my heart this time, and let the chips fall where they may.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Proper thing.




David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks it was interesting the last time I said Bingo you made a comment then Mr Morton and the "bot" he was battling went "Poof" N'esy Pas?


Michel Jones
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Good luck with that, I'm voting Conservative because it's the party of responsibility and Canadian unity.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Need I say BINGO again?












Jason Banks
i have done the same the last 2 elections..voted for a party to block the other party. nothing will ever change if we keep doing this.. libs, cons have both been terrible gvts the last 3 terms, I thnk they have done some postive things but the tradeoffs are never worth it.

Take the plunge i am this time, Even if green/ndp dont win seats maybe, I am hopeful by increasing their vote share will encourage other fencesitters in the next election that are on the fence to vote green or ndp. Change starts with you. This mess will take a decade to sort out if not longer its not going to happen over night. Whats different now is the power of social media. Take to reddit/facebook etc.. encourage people to vote green or whoever.. if people know other people are doing it theyll do it to!



Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Jason banks: Or encourage them to vote liberal to prevent cons from slipping it.


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Jason banks: slipping in ;)


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Jason banks: We now have the lowest unemployment rate since records have been kept. How is that a "mess" pls?


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Jason banks: Greens and NDP have no chance of forming govt.. Cons do.


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Jason banks: "Take to reddit/facebook etc"

You are supposed to answer questions there too if asked :)



Maggie Leard 
Reply to @Jason banks: yes. the liberals have not given canada honest government for a long time...but this election we should vote for the leader we want..no trying to fake our vote to smaller parties that cannot govern...choose scheer or trudeau.
choose free enterprise or socialism.



David Raymond Amos   
Reply to @Jason banks: Methinks many would agree that folks should always vote for the person best represents them no matter what political gang the candidate belongs to or stands as an Independent then let the political cards fall where they may as to who is the next Prime Minister N'esy Pas? 
 

Michel Jones
Reply to @Jason banks: Don't go left it's socialism, only Conservatives lean right of center and runs an ideology of reaponsibilty, if you care that's the way to vote.


Michel Jones
Reply to @Maggie Leard: That would be capitalism as in Conservative.

Michel Jones
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: You know it's the guy on top that has the power to make all the decisions, like it or not that's the one to vote for even if your local is a loser.

David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Michel Jones: So now I am a loser just because I put my name on the ballot seven times in order to challenge political gangs to ethical debates in public forums?
















Michel Jones
Very good reporting Jacques Poitras, you never asked the man why he wouldn't vote Conservative. the guy is a left winger and you knew.. Blackface doesn't deserve any more free passes ever.

 
David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Michel Jones: Nor the the sneaky Yankee who was in Fat Fred City today the dude you adore whom I call Harper 2.0.

Methinks everybody noticed standing right behind him was the lawyer who was his un-elected "Shadow" Cabinet Minister for the Maritimes The same dude I debated on the night before N'esy Pas?













Junkman George
Not to be outdone Mr Higgs weighs in:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/blaine-higgs-quebec-favourite-child-1.5326097

Having avoided the news all week one might think Mr Higgs was simply lonely?



David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Junkman George: Methinks Higgy was too dumb to stay under his rock like Doug Ford was wise enough to do N'esy Pas?













Michael Levesque
just don't vote Liberal


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @michael levesque: Methinks you should vote for the local person who best speaks for your concerns in a sincere fashion. If no one does then don't vote Trust that all the candidates on the ballot in New Brunswick Southwest know why I would not vote even if they finally allowed me to do so N'esy Pas?













Donald Gallant
What’s coming next from the progressives.

Free EV cars would be no surprise.



David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Donald Gallant: Check the news about 5 towns in NB 
 











David Guitard
Proportional Representational is the only answer.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @David Guitard: I disagree















Murray Brown
Most people who claim they are 'progressive' or say they can't figure out who to vote for are disingenuous... Most of them know exactly who they are voting for. This election isn't about 'climate change' or 'carbon taxes'... It's about Justin Trudeau. Canadian's figured out long before SNC Lavalin and Trudeau's dress up games that they had made a mistake electing our first 'selfie' prime minister... And now that we know how 'selfish' he is... It's time to get rid of him.


David Raymond Amos   
Reply to @Murray Brown: Methinks this election main issue is what it always always taxation and government assistance to whomever sourced from out tax funds. The Golden Rule is he with the Gold makes the rules so people both right and left are trying to figure out who is gonna do the least harm to their pocket books and maybe add to cash to it. Hence all the false promises from all the political gangs N'esy Pas?













Joseph Vacher
JT should have held his promise for electoral reform - looks like its going to come back to bite him


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: 4 days ago - To the surprise of all, a group of independent academics evaluated the Liberal record of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his government and they concluded that the government had kept 92 per cent of its promises. ... They boil complex issues down to bumper sticker slogans which ...


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: w w w. hilltimes. com/2019/10/14/the-trudeau-record-promises-kept-and-broken/218944


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: 92% kept ..that may be a new record


Archie Levesque
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: In "sunny Ways" land that my be true.... in the real world -- not so much


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Archie Levesque: Didnt read the article huh?


SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: But not all promises are of equal value to all voters. If someone cared more about the electoral reform promise than about any other promise, then the 92% doesn't matter to them. They were lied to about the one thing they cared about.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must recall the last time you challenged this dude N'esy Pas?


Michel Jones
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Did you ever listen to the man, carefully? Did you see how other leaders respected him at the UN or the G-20? Is that what you want your leader to look like? This election is about Trudeau, make no mistake about it. 


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Michel Jones: Methinks you must remember all the UN dudes laughing at your hero Harper and he got a pout and never went back N'esy Pas?

















Marc Bourque
Do you actually think ,that only the greens and liberals are conserved over a naturally occurring event like climate change is in the running??We all know the greens or npd WILL NEVER have a majority government EVER....A non vote for the conservatives,is showing neither using your head for logic or your heart as far as that goes....


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Methinks we are supposed to voting for person to be an MP to speak for us to the Crown not a political gang to run a circus for their benefit N'esy Pas? 
 

Michel Jones
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: The leader of the party is the boss period, he even has the power to decide who runs or not.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Michel Jones: Who cares what your boss thinks I always run as an Independent 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Michel Jones: Furthermore there is no mention of your political gangs in our Constitution


















Jonas Smith
Green is the way to go in Fredericton. Decourcey has been an absolute dud who's only interested in sending out coloured rags every quarter. Community organizations wait months to hear from him on meeting requests.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Jonas Smith: True but even though I know the Green Lady is no better methinks it would be a hoot if she won for rather obvious reasons N'esy Pas? 
 

Michel Jones
Reply to @Jonas Smith: The only recourse for your grivances is Conserative, the greens are too far in left field with May at the helm.


David Raymond Amos   
Reply to @Michel Jones: I disagree















John Haigh
"news"
 
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @John Haigh: or is it Fake News on behalf of the Fake Left?




















Dennis Atchison
Always with the Liberal slant, and always with description of voting out of "fear". Media bias continues on the eve of another election. Tony Myatt never mentioned (or maybe the journalist decided not to include) that voting is for representation … which is local … which means you vote for the person whom you feel best represents you. There is no "vote splitting" (such a silly concept conjured up by media), there is no voting for the leader (though by voting for your candidate you vote for that party, but if they win or lose nationally is out of your control), and there should be no fear in voting but media keep pounding at the "what if" scenarios. There is no "what if", there is only - and wonderfully - the opportunity to vote for the person in your riding whom best represents your values and direction. That's it, that's all.

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Dennis Atchison: Ideally, that's the way it should be; but it isn't. The best example is the Bloc in Quebec. Instead of voting with their head, they vote with their rear end sending dysfunctional MPs whose only accomplishment is to yap and yap and yap.

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you two make fine pair N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Following the thread of your posts, it all revolves around navel-gazing. Today, it's navel-gazing on steroids. As if this election and everything else is about you.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you knows as well as I that I always includes sneaky SANB dudes such as yourself in the Circus N'esy Pas? 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: BTW at least the union dude Dennis Atchison and I use our real names N'esy Pas?  


Michel Jones
Reply to @Dennis Atchison: It might had been worth something sometime in the past to have the local represent you, but today national agendas come first, then provincial followed by local wishes.. The only party that comes close is Conservatives.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Michel Jones: What am I chopped liver?














Graeme Scott
At this point it looks like a Liberal minority. I'd say, if it's a viable option in your riding, elect a green or NDP candidate to keep Trudeau honest.


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Graeme Scott:
It's really hard to honestly tell what it does look like. I find it hard to believe the numbers we are being fed by the media, AND the Liberals sure aren't acting like those numbers are accurate, but by all means, vote for whoever you like. Strategic voting doesn't work.


Marc Bourque
Reply to @Graeme Scott: " keep Trudeau honest" really? honest...................


Al Clark
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: "fed by the media"??? CBC has a page that lists SEVERAL polls. Pick one or two you like. Nobody is "feeding" you anything, well not in the evil MSM anyways. The reb's mom must have cut off his internet, haven't heard a peep forever....


Al Clark
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks you know Mr Tibbs in real space and time N'esy Pas?


Al Clark 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: methinks uthinks a LOT of stuff right after the harvest naysay paw??


Al Clark 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I did recently "rent" In The heat of The Night from the library though - outstanding!


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks I think about a lot of stuff all the time but I pay particular attention to sneaky dudes who tease me about the theft of my Harley for obvious reasons N'esy Pas?


Al Clark
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: methinks towed for lack of insurance/sold for unclaimed storage is hardly theft naysay paw?


Al Clark
Reply to @Al Clark: What do you think of my new ride btw - carbureted unmolested FLT blockhead. More reliable and fun than a goldwing!


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: YUP You are cop alright Methinks its that your buddy Higgs rode a Goldwing too However he loves Rob Moore Hence you can't be him N'esy Pas? 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks you are quite likely related to the questionable Mayor Clark but only Wayne Gallant would know for sure Perhaps I should give him another call N'esy Pas? 


Al Clark
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I don't think higgy could ride a tricycle and he sure wouldn't be riding with me. Maybe one of those skidoos with wheels?


Al Clark 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Quite likely. We've spread like a disease since 1812 ;-) 
 

Michel Jones
Reply to @Marc Bourque: The only way to keep Trudeau honest is to show him the door.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Michel Jones: So who crosses the threshold then? Methinks you hope it is a sneaky Yankee I call Harper 2.0 N'esy Pas?














Roland Godin
Hiding in a booth mostly to doodle a preferred political colour fixation could be questionable and part of the reason for electing irrational emotional politicians and not; legislators with rationality, insight, foresight, discernment and accountability...et voilà.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Roland Godin: Methinks plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose N'esy Pas? 
















 
Madeleine Nickerson
Voting GREEN! We need a balance of power, we need a voice and we need to be looking to the future, not just this election but building on for future elections.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Madeleine Nickerson: What about the 40 percent who don't care to vote for blatantly obvious reasons.Who will speak for them?

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
The folks who don't vote will lose by default. When offered a choice in anything, you should pick the best choice for you, with the information you have, to do otherwise, and complain later is dumb.
I've made a LOT of choices, over the years, some good, some bad, but I can always hold my head up, and say I did the best I could.




David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: As you well know I was not allowed to vote for many years until Trudeau changed the rules recently whereas I live just across the line from Fundy Royal I cannot vote for myself Furthermore I know every politician in my ridings seeking my vote is a unethical as hell Hence I will not endorse any of them just like the other 40 percent? Comprenez vu oh ye who can't vote with the name you choose to use here. 
 

Michel Jones
Reply to @Madeleine Nickerson: Then vote Conservative


Michel Jones 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Don't swallow the bull about picking for YOU, when deciding which political party should lead the country one has to put the country before himself/herself.. Only leftist ideologies try to guide people into believing it's all about them, it isn't... Vote responsibly, vote Conservative. 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Michel Jones: BS

















Dotty Gaudet
CBC should be there to report the news, but unfortunately, CBC likes to make news.


Matt Steele 
Reply to @Dotty Gaudet: ......Very true . This story certainly seems to have a very bias slant to it ; and it seems pretty obvious what the agenda is .


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Dotty Gaudet: Methinks Mr Orwell called it Newspeak N'esy Pas? 

 
Johnny Jakobs 
The whole political system needs change.
Local independent representation. Voting for colors has never worked...



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: I ran as Independent in Fat Fred City in 2005 remember? Trust that Steve Murphy of CTV certainly does Methinks anyone can Google the following to verify N'esy Pas?

David Amos Me Myself and I



Johnny Jakobs 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: my apologies but I dont remember.
Google smoogle... I'm not a fan of F B either. Sometimes the internet is part of the problem.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Why are you commenting here? 















 
Matt Steele
It looks like the 600 MILLION PLUS of taxpayers cash that Trudeau doled out to the media a few months ago is working . It seems the media is for sale these days !

 
Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Matt Steele:
Funny that..............
I am even beginning to suspect the polls too. Someone is awfully worried Mr Trudeau isn't going to get re-elected, and it must be desperate, really desperate, to be pulling out all the stops,
Of course almost 5 million advance voters (who likely did not vote for the approved candidate) have things rattled.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Everybody knows there is only one poll that counts no matter what Mr Grenier and his cohorts may claim to the contrary. The sad part is that their spin does effect the important poll just as this article attests. 














 
Alex Forbes
Why are strategic voters always voting Liberal? More propaganda I see...

Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Alex Forbes:
Sure gets a person scratching their head, doesn't it?
We are supposed to bend over and pretend Mr Trudeau deserves another 4 years at playing Prime Minister?
And all because some economics professor (ex NDP) says so.................
Right.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Alex Forbes: YUP 


Michel Jones
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: That proffessor is validation for defunding universities..


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Michel Jones: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
















 
Terry Tibbs 
Don't be fooled. This strategic voting is so much foolishness.
If there are "issues" important to you that are addressed by any political party vote for that party.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Even though you think me a fool I happen to agree with you most of the time so perhaps I am as you claim


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
To be human is to each have blind spots. I do not *think* you a fool, we can all be silly at times.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: If you mean what you say then why not use your real name?


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
They kick it, and I can't be bothered chasing to prove otherwise. 

 
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BS  


Junkman George
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
So here we go then, my profile has my name Mark George attached to it, but it displays Junkman George. Not so much BS then?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Junkman George: Then why the BS out of the gate?

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: The Crown has your IP anyway correct?

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Junkman George: BTW I thought your were Tim Thompson's nasty buddy Erik Millett the former Principal in BelleIsle who ran in New Brunswick Southwest while I ran in Fredericton in 2006. Remember when he had to resign from his fancy job over the singing of "O Canada" on April Fools Day 2009? Well he was the dude who picked a fight with me last night after his farmer buddy Werner Bock left the circus early in disgust.









Jim Johnston
What is agonizing these potential Green voters is voting Green and then seeing the Conservatives win the seat. Not something that makes for an easy decision!


Michael Hatfield
Reply to @Jim Johnston: Agreed, sir. Unfortunately this election is not one to feel great about. In my mind, it comes down to voting against who I DON'T want to win the election. It comes down to who I prefer to represent Canada on the world stage; I definitely don't want a watered-down Trump style PM turning Canada into as much an embarrassment as the USA currently is on the world stage.


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @Jim Johnston:
So, "making it better" is voting Liberal? That's just plain silly. After the 4 year song and dance we have seen the Liberals do not deserve anyone's vote.



Jim Johnston
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I didn't say that at all. I would imagine this election is also agonizing people who are thinking of voting for the PPC as well for similar reasons. Like Mr Hatfield says above this election is not one to feel good about regardless of your political outlook.


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @Jim Johnston:
Well I voted Green and, as always, feel good about it.
I did not vote out of fear, or intimidation, I voted how I wanted.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Jim Johnston: I am a candidate in this election who has been NOT allowed to speak on our airwaves throughtout 7 elections yet the "non partisan" public own broadcaster features one of my old political foes telling folks how to vote for the Fake Left? Yea Right


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: "Well I voted Green and, as always, feel good about it."

Hmmm Are you one of dudes I crossed paths with last night?



David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: "Terrance "Terry" Tibbs (born 1959) is a car salesman from Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire who phones people from his office in London asking about items which they are selling. He also makes appearances on television programmes."


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
How could we have crossed paths if I am in Hertfordshire as you claim?




David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I thinks you are the dude who challenged me last night after the debate


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
I was tucked up in my bed by 9:30 last night, quack appointment at 8:30 this AM.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you should count your blessings at least you have free heath care No doubt you know that your buddies deleted my Medicare Cardand my SIN for political reasons N'esy Pas? 

 
Al Clark
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Ah but Mr Tibbs has drunk from the fountain of wealth in the land of opportunity aka the great state of mass a two shitts


Al Clark 
Reply to @Al Clark: sorry left out the word NOT ;-) 

 
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks I am becoming more and more convinced that you are a cop N'esy Pas?  


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Or better yet perhaps my first guess was the right one  


Al Clark 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks in your old age you have forgotten the one trillion words you have freely placed on the innernet, not to mention a couple of other basement dwellers that don't like you ;-)
Don't worry, I'm not a cop. Didn't take shop in highschool or have sticky issues of guns and ammo. 


  
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks the more you deny it the more I should be convinced because everybody knows a corrupt cop's main forte is lying and swearing to it If you were out of pampers back then you should remember the corners inquiry down your way that the RCMP hired me to testify at in 1982 Correct? Anyway I talked about it again last night during the debate and Higgy's buddy Rob Moore asked to read the article while he was still on the stage sitting beside me N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: I bet you heard how popular I was a the High School in your neighbourhood a couple of days ago
  

Al Clark
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I don't hang around high schools - that can be trouble for an old guy.....


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Cops hang around High Schools 


Michel Jones
Reply to @Jim Johnston: It doesn't take much sense to imagine Trudeau out of Canadian politics.. If the last four years wasn't enough to convince a majority of Canadians to vote Conservative compliments of the Greens and NDP that just couldn't mster real policy for Canadians, Trudeau certainly did his best to be shown the door. 


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: If I am a mere "basement dweller" as you claim then how do you cops explain my possession of many wiretap tapes of the mob the none of you will investigate? Methinks if you had read a small portion of the trillion words I posted then you must have listened to a couple of them by now N'esy Pas?
 

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