Saturday, 19 October 2019

Kinsella consulting firm worked to 'seek and destroy' Bernier's PPC party: documents

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Replying to   @FloryGoncalves and 49 others
Methinks Stormy Monday is upon us Come Tuesday its all over but the crying N'esy Pas?
Enjoy

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Folks should notice Rogers edited the questions from the audience and the concluding statements and ask them why EH?



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Replying to   @FloryGoncalves and 49 others
Welcome To the Circus   

Methinks everybody knows that I am enjoying playing my part in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas? 


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/10/kinsella-consulting-firm-worked-to-seek.html 






https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-campaign-final-days-mood-1.5327895



Inside 48 hours and a momentum shift on the Conservative campaign

The crowds are big, the message is sharper - but the questions keep coming for leader Andrew Scheer



Katie Simpson · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2019 4:00 AM ET









9569 Comments  It was well over 10 000 comments bebore I refreshed the page





David Raymond Amos 
Methinks Stormy Monday is upon us Come Tuesday its all over but the crying N'esy Pas? 







David Amos
Methinks folks all over Canada should ask their wannabe MPs why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger, Madame May, Babyface Scheer and Mad Max will not talk about why I sued the Queen in 2015 (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) while running against them all during the election of the of the 42nd Parliament and why I am running against them right now for the last time in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas? 





David Amos
Welcome To the Circus Trust that I am enjoying playing my part in Fundy Royal 










William T Fowler
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Scheer is more down to Earth and seems like a straight shooter compared to the Rolex wearing, second Cargo plane needing, Global wedding leading Leftist false piety.


David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @William T Fowler: Methinks you should lay off the blue kool aid for a while N'esy Pas?













Dayton Funk
Seems the CBC is missing the point. They have been all working against the Conservatives in this election. What’s the end game?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Dayton Funk: Methinks understanding the use of public resources to practice partisan politicking is not rocket science N'esy Pas?


David Mccaig
Reply to @Dayton Funk:
"They have been all working against the Conservatives in this election."
That's all they got left these cons, conspiracy theories , how there's a conspiracy by everyone to keep the cons from victory, instead of admitting they've got a p**poor candidate.  



David Raymond AmosReply to @david mccaig: Methinks you have the right to keep pounding on your keyboard all you wish but its all over but the crying now for many political spin doctors. At least I put my name on another ballot and you did not N'esy Pas?














Alex Forbes
I don't really like the Conservatives nor the Liberals. But at least you know where the Conservatives stand on most issues. The Liberals are just amorphous.


David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Alex Forbes: Methinks understanding the unethical practices of "Canada's Natural Governing Party" is very simple indeed Anyone can just think greed then follow the money N'esy Pas?


David Mccaig
Reply to @Alex Forbes:
Cons stand for dirty politics. 



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @david mccaig: "Cons stand for dirty politics."

Methinks even much has gone "Poof" I trust that you know that have proven many times in the public record that your favourite political parties are no better than your chosen foes N'esy Pas?

















John Smith
So what? Even if a consultant firm was hired to attack a certain party, how is it different from paying the media over 600 million to become completely biased against the Conservatives???


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @John Smith: Good question Good luck getting an answer that is ethical.


David Mccaig
Reply to @John Smith:
OR repeating fabricated stories like " paying the media over 600 million to become completely biased against the Conservatives"



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks burying the words of other folks does not speak well of you N'esy Pas?







Carol Weideman
Funny how this story broke just before people are to go to the poll. Very convenient for the Liberal and NDP.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Carol Weideman: Methinks a lot of people noticed that too and are no doubt wondering who spilled the beans. Bernier is definitely milking the issue to the Max even though he worked with the same crowd for years and would be their leader today and using the same trick today if he had had just a few more votes from his former blue coated cohorts N'esy Pas?













Hamish Lawrence
Trudeau has been a total failure as a leader. Judgement on his dishonest and divisive government is the driving force on voting day


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Hamish lawrence: Dream on Methinks the swing voters will consider which political party will do the least damage to their wallets then vote accordingly N'esy Pas?















Jim Simpson
Let's not forget the handling of SNC, that balancing budget($80 billion ago), India clown act, Norm case, $10.5 million to a person, $50 million to a private owner of an island that Trudeau visited......just too many to name. Trudeau is NOT what he appears to be.....fake!


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Jim Simpson: Trust that most folks have already forgotten that stuff or simply didn't care in the first place.














Jim Simpson
Nice to see the liberal pom poms in full swing supporting Trudeau whom blocks a SNC investigation. Really tells you what Canada is made of.


Robert Jones
Reply to @Mark Baker: " explain how a corporate DPA regime would be bad for Canadians? "

That's easy: Corporations can simply do whatever they want, break as many laws as they want and if they get caught, just BUY their way out of it with all those illicitly gained profits.
Robert Jones
Reply to @Phil Marshall: " Why did a judge stop the RCMP investigation into former PM Mulroney’s $300,000 payoff by Schreiber? " 

Legal reasons, would be my guess. Why...do you have information to the contrary? If so, perhaps you should share it with the proper authorities rather than just slandering people here...
David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Robert Jones: Methinks folks all over Canada should ask their wannabe MPs why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger, Madame May, Babyface Scheer and Mad Max will not talk about why I sued the Queen in 2015 (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) while running against them all during the election of the of the 42nd Parliament and why I am running against them right now for the last time in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas?





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Inside 48 hours and a momentum shift on the Conservative campaign

The crowds are big, the message is sharper - but the questions keep coming for leader Andrew Scheer



Katie Simpson · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2019 4:00 AM ET



Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer speaks at a rally in Little Harbour, N.S., Thursday. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

It was the final Thursday of the election campaign, and inside a small community hall in Little Harbour, N.S., Jill Scheer stood near the back of the room with a big smile on her face.

As the energetic rally with a few hundred people started to wind down, she picked up the two-month-old daughter of a senior Conservative staffer and started playfully dancing with baby Georgia — bopping along to the campaign theme song as it played on a nearby speaker.

Her husband, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, had just finished a decent day on the campaign trail.



At that rally, he relied less on his Teleprompter. And while it was there for safety, he deviated at times from his prepared script in the hopes of connecting better with the audience.

Wanna know how the Scheer team is feeling? Jill Scheer and a senior Conswevative advisor are having a dance party at the rally tonight.
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8:32 PM - Oct 17, 2019

But his big moment of the day came at an earlier stop in Brampton, Ont., where he laid the groundwork to push for power in a minority government situation.

"The party that wins the most seats should get to form the government," Scheer told reporters standing at a construction site.

And while that's not how Canada's parliamentary system works, exactly, Scheer's comments signalled he's ready to take this fight well past Election Day.
"A prime minister who enters into an election and comes out of that election with fewer seats than another party resigns. That is that is a modern convention in Canadian politics," he said.

The deliberate statement appeared to suggest the Conservatives had data, whether it be internal polling or something else, that demonstrated Scheer was in a position to win the most seats, but not necessarily a majority.



Scheer and his team appeared relaxed and quietly confident. So much so, that when leaving Little Harbour for Halifax that night, Scheer got some laughs from reporters when the media bus stopped for a beer run.

Holding a Bluetooth speaker above his head, he came up the stairs of the coach, with the song The Final Countdown blaring.

From that point on, there was a dramatic push to build momentum.

It triggered a tense two days on the campaign, with mixed results.

New line of attack


Scheer's plane touched down in Fredericton early the next morning. His team headed to a local brewery, where a couple hundred people had gathered to hear him speak.
 
"We are only three days away from Canadians finally having their say on Justin Trudeau's last four years as prime minister," he said to big cheers as he started into his usual stump speech.

But he snuck in a new line of attack, one that did not go unnoticed.



Scheer faced questions when he went after the Liberals and NDP, suggesting the two parties would hike the GST by 2.5 points if they formed a coalition. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

"We've looked at the Liberal and NDP platforms and a coalition of the two would run a deficit of $40 billion next year alone," he declared.

"To pay for even half of these never-ending deficits, the Trudeau-NDP coalition would have to raise the GST from 5 per cent to 7.5 per cent..."
At no point in this campaign have either the Liberals or the NDP mused about raising the GST. Despite that, Scheer dug in when challenged by reporters.

"We are showing Canadians the types of costs that will be associated with this massive amount of new deficits. They will have to make choices.... Raising the GST from 5 to 7.5 per cent is one option."


Scheer raises a glass of milk during a stop in rival Maxime Bernier's riding of Beauce — a nod to the support of Quebec's dairy industry, which helped him defeat Bernier for the Conservative leadership. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

The claim was no accident, and was likely aimed at motivating the conservative base to show up in big numbers on Monday.

But when Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh both declared the allegation to be false, Scheer's claims became one of the stories of the day.

Friday night surprise, Saturday questions


Repeated questions from reporters about his GST claim were clearly frustrating for Scheer's road team, as Conservative staffers pointed out the Liberals were playing their own numbers game and making false claims about Conservative spending cuts.

If the mood behind the scenes was starting to harden, it was only made worse late Friday when The Globe and Mail broke a story that claimed a well-known political operative was hired by the Conservatives to secretly sling mud at Maxime Bernier and The People's Party of Canada. CBC News also published the story.

Scheer had to have known he would be bombarded by questions about the story when he stood before reporters at his daily news conference Saturday morning.


On Saturday, Scheer was forced to talk about Bernier again — this time, to react to news reports his party had secretly worked with a former Liberal strategist to sideline Bernier's People's Party. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

"As a rule, we never make comments on vendors that we may or may not have engaged with," he said, over and over and over again.

Unwilling to veer away from his talking point, the news conference turned into a standoff.
Reporters broke etiquette rules, asking more than just one question and one followup, with a frustrated staffer threatening to end the event if journalists didn't abide by that standard.

Scheer soldiered on without calling a halt to the questions, even allowing a CBC reporter six followup questions.

But to say it went poorly for the Conservatives would be an understatement.


Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is repeatedly asked if his party contracted a firm to negatively target the People's Party of Canada. 1:46

With just two days to go, the man who spent weeks arguing that Trudeau had no moral authority to govern was now tainted by a mudslinging scandal of his own that he refused to deny.

On top of that, he stood by a GST hike claim his party came up with, even though no leader has said that idea is on the agenda.

Whether the stumbles of the past 48 hours will have an impact on the campaign won't be known until ballots are counted on Monday.


On the second-to-last day of campaigning before Monday's vote, Sheer was drawing big crowds as he made stops in the Toronto area. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

If party faithful are upset, it didn't show on Saturday night, when well over 1,500 people showed up at a Richmond Hill, Ont., banquet hall to see Scheer in person.

The venue was so packed that organizers had to remove room dividers to allow more people inside.

But the joy and quiet confidence among Scheer's inner circle that was so obvious in Little Harbour was in much shorter supply on Saturday.


About the Author




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Katie Simpson is a senior reporter in the Parliamentary Bureau of CBC News. Prior to joining the CBC, she spent nearly a decade in Toronto covering local and provincial issues.








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Replying to   @FloryGoncalves and 49 others
Methinks a lot of folks should review what has been said of me on the internet and within this comment forum I am no less a man than Mad Max N'esy Pas? 


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/10/kinsella-consulting-firm-worked-to-seek.html 







https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bernier-files-complaint-kinsella-campaign-1.5327748


Bernier files complaint to elections watchdog over 'secret' campaign to smear his party

People's Party of Canada was target of social media campaign, according to documents



Kathleen Harris · CBC News · Posted: Oct 19, 2019 2:43 PM ET




People's Party of Canada Leader Maxime Bernier has filed a complaint about what he calls a professional 'smear campaign' waged against his party. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)

People's Party of Canada Leader Maxime Bernier has filed a complaint to the Commissioner of Canada Elections to get to the bottom of what he called a "secret" smear campaign waged against him.

During a news conference Saturday, Bernier said the party will retain legal advice and will use all tools at its disposal to get answers on the Conservative Party of Canada's potential role in that campaign. He also wants answers on who was behind the entry of a Rhinoceros Party candidate in his Beauce, Que., riding who has the same name as him.

Bernier said that was a deliberate attempt to confuse voters.



CBC News reported Friday that Warren Kinsella's Daisy Group consulting firm was behind a social media campaign to put the People's Party of Canada (PPC) on the defensive and keep Bernier out of the federal leaders' debates, according to documents provided to CBC News.

The documents outline the work done by several employees of Daisy on behalf of an unnamed client. A source with knowledge of the project told CBC News that client was the Conservative Party of Canada. Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer today refused to comment on whether his party was involved, saying "As a rule, we never make comments on vendors that we may or may not have engaged with."


Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is repeatedly asked if his party contracted a firm to negatively target the People's Party of Canada. 1:46

The plan was first reported Friday night by the Globe and Mail.

According to the source, who spoke to CBC News on condition they not be named, the objective of the plan, dubbed "Project Cactus," was to make the Conservative Party look more attractive to voters by highlighting PPC candidates' and supporters' xenophobic statements on social media.
The source added that Daisy employed four full-time staffers on Project Cactus at one time.
Kinsella is a lawyer, anti-racism activist and former Liberal strategist who has been a vocal critic of Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau.



On Friday, he told CBC News in an email he wouldn't discuss client matters but was proud to combat racism and intolerance.

But on Saturday he posted a longer statement to his website, saying "the work we were doing ended many months ago."

"It was always going to be disclosed, by law. It was in no way inappropriate or wrong," the post read.
Kinsella said he was proud to oppose bigots.

"And the client who wanted to expose and oppose bigotry? They deserve credit, not criticism," the post said.

He did not confirm who the client was, saying "lawyers are not permitted to simply break vows of confidentiality. Only the client can let you do that. The client, here, hasn't."

In the statement Kinsella said he holds no party membership and that his firm has worked for "every single political party or candidates running under the banner of every single political party. Every one except Bernier's."

Kinsella, who is also a columnist with the Toronto Sun, said he had deactivated his Twitter and Facebook accounts, and was "pulling back from other media as well." His Twitter and Facebook accounts appeared to be deactivated on Saturday.




'Deeply shocked' by reports


Bernier said he's "deeply shocked" by the reported plan.

"This secret campaign is an attack on the integrity of our democratic process," he said during a news conference Saturday.

"I can assure you we will take every means at our disposal to get to the bottom of this story."

Bernier was critical that Scheer would not confirm or deny his party's involvement.

"Like Justin Trudeau during the SNC scandal, Mr. Scheer invents reasons for refusing to answer questions and tell the truth," he said. "This story shows how corrupt our old parties are. This is the kind of politics that fuels Canadians' cynicism about politics."


People's Party of Canada Leader Maxime Bernier accuses Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer of being dishonest while also taking a shot at Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau. 1:18

A spokesperson for the Commissioner of Canada Elections confirmed the complaint had been received, but said she couldn't discuss how the commissioner would proceed, or not, due to confidentiality provisions of the Canada Elections Act.

Michelle Laliberté added that, as in all cases, if the complaint resulted in any compliance or enforcement action it would be made public.








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Harold Josephs
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They did the same to President Trump. The Big Media giants and the opposition party lied about him and tried to undermine his election chances. Bernier got the same treatment here in Canada.


Mackenna Wilson 
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David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Harold Josephs: Methinks folks all over Canada should ask their wannabe MPs why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger, Madame May, Babyface Scheer and Mad Max will not talk about why I sued the Queen in 2015 (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) while running against them all during the election of the of the 42nd Parliament and why I am running against them right now for the last time in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas?












Arlond Lynds
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Scheer's only visible attribute he brings to the table is that of total Harper sycophant, were he to actually win that would not change. Scheer is the perfect Elsworth Toohey pick, over his head, out of his depth and totally dependent on the machine trying to get him elected. PUPPET 


David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Arlond Lynds: Methinks folks all over Canada should ask their wannabe MPs why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger, Madame May, Babyface Scheer and Mad Max will not talk about why I sued the Queen in 2015 (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) while running against them all during the election of the of the 42nd Parliament and why I am running against them right now for the last time in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas? 














Dale Sullivan
This is why I will never vote for the current Con party. Smears, innuendo, outright lyes. And then Scheer tries the Mr. Rogers act. ABC.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Dale Sullivan: Methinks a lot of folks should review what has been said of me on the internet and within this comment forum I am no less a man that Mad Max N'esy Pas? 


Arlond Lynds
Reply to @Dale Sullivan:
Scheer is the perfect Elsworth Toohey pick, over his head, out of his depth and totally dependent on the machine trying to get him elected. PUPPET  



David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Arlond Lynds: Methinks folks all over Canada should ask their wannabe MPs why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger, Madame May, Babyface Scheer and Mad Max will not talk about why I sued the Queen in 2015 (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) while running against them all during the election of the of the 42nd Parliament and why I am running against them right now for the last time in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas? 


RD Santos
Reply to @Dave Comeau: ...and they hired a media company associated with Jean Chretien...oh the irony!!


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @rD santos: Methinks folks all over Canada should ask their wannabe MPs why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger, Madame May, Babyface Scheer and Mad Max will not talk about why I sued the Queen in 2015 (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) while running against them all during the election of the of the 42nd Parliament and why I am running against them right now for the last time in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas?













Bill Nest
Politics was never this dirty until Reform took over the PC party.


Arlond Lynds
Reply to @Bill Nest:
Bit of a stretch, but certainly Harper brought in a whole new level of subterfuge and utterly disrespectful to democracy tricks. He brought US politics north, now the same tricksters work both sides of the border. Sometimes they even share protestors like the one who confronted our sand bag filling PM, only to disappear as quickly as he appeared. This is Conservative politics, left unchecked it will be an end to our democracy.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Bill Nest: Methinks the ghost of Sir John Alexander Macdonald is likely laughing about now N'esy Pas?  


David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Arlond Lynds: Methinks some folks may enjoy watching something in order to reach a decision before polling day. Anyone can Google the following 3 words Fundy Royal Debate in order to find and watch a YouTube video of me stress testing with one of Harper's cabinet ministers before he lost his seat. Its a safe bet that he will win it back. However for obvious reasons I trust that all my political foes won't easily forget that I had some serious issues with each of them during the debates over this election as well N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Bill Nest: Methinks some folks may enjoy watching something in order to reach a decision on polling day. Anyone can Google the following 3 words Fundy Royal Debate in order to find and watch a YouTube video of me stress testing one of Harper's cabinet ministers before he lost his seat. Its a safe bet that he will win it back. However for obvious reasons I trust that all my political foes won't easily forget that I had some serious issues with each of them during the debates over this election as well N'esy Pas?
















Kyle J Christopher
I don't support Bernier, but this is a real low by Scheer and the Conservative party.

But it should not be a surprise to anyone.

The entire Reform group of Scheer, Harper, Kenney, Manning, McKay, Baird, are all dirty politicians.  



Arlond Lynds
Reply to @Kyle J Christopher:
The very worst, and Scheer's only visible attribute he brings to the table is that of total Harper sycophant, were he to actually win that would not change. Scheer is the perfect Elsworth Toohey pick, over his head, out of his depth and totally dependent on the machine trying to get him elected. PUPPET



David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Arlond Lynds: Methinks your most liked thread went "Poof" in record time N'esy Pas? 
 

Arlond Lynds
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Oh sometimes they are much quicker, too much truth about their Harper boss is not allowed by ICUC.



James Holden
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Cons are flagging everything criticizing Scheer today.



David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @Arlond Lynds: Methinks you are correct they did it again perhaps the third time will be a charm N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @James Holden: YUP 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Kyle J Christopher: Methinks Stormy Monday is upon us Come Tuesday its all over but the crying N'esy Pas?















Chris Maurier
Ever since the Conservative party was rail roaded by the Northern alliance. Steven Harper and William Gairdner as well as other 'extreme right wing Conservatives.The Party Have been charged and Convicted of many Election irregularities with the Con party Ethics watchdog Del Masto and Sona being hauled off in hand cuffs by the RCMP.. It has only been 4 yrs. and the Cons haven't changed ...Why would anyone of sound mind give them another chance ,when they refuse to do any thing but for their Party


James Holden
Reply to @ Chris Maurier:
The Cons are even more emboldened by what Trump has gotten away with. They hired 2 of Trump's campaign staff and have been using Trump's tactics for a while now. 



David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @James Holden: YUP


Garfield Stephenson Stephenson
Reply to @André Carrel: Exactly. This sort of abstainism in politics for the sake of not legitimatize a corrupt process and for opposition's sake is being part of the problem that would backfire on those advocating for change badly.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Garfield Stephenson Stephenson Wu: So you say but what are you doing about it? 
 




















Mark Anthony
Scheer is refusing to answer questions about it. Wasn't he complaining about this type of thing just mere months ago?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Mark Anthony: YUP













Dennis Brady
If telling the truth was a requirement for political campaign, the Conservative Party would not exist. 
  

Tom Shultz
Reply to @Dennis Brady:

...neither would the Liberal party.

ethics violations
blackface
SNC lavalin
Admiral Norman
manhandling an opposition MP back to his seat in the HOC, while elbowing a female MP
last election with first past the post system
etc. etc. etc. 



David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Dennis Brady: Methinks the many folks who don't bother to vote would agree that the same can be said of all the political gangs N'esy Pas? 


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Tom Shultz: Try Googling my name and that of Admiral Norman 
















David Peters
51% of Cons praise Andy's American style smear tactics and the other 49% find those tactics acceptable.  


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Methinks polling day will tell the true tale about your tally N'esy Pas? 














Will Morgan
What? No denial from Scheer? Caught doing more dirty tricks. LOL  


James Holden
Reply to @Manley Man: I wonder how much Pierre pouti....Poilievre had to do with this?  


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @James Holden: Lots  














Dale Sullivan
American dirty style politics brought to you by an American who kept that secret until the media outed him.


Steven Albert
Reply to @Dale Sullivan: Sneers 2 sisters are card carrying republicans. Birds of a feather flock together.


Billie-Bob Brown
Reply to @Dale Sullivan:
Canadian Kenney also did it in Alberta


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David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Dale Sullivan: Oh So True


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Billie-Bob Brown: YUP














Joe Blough
First the greasy rumour-mongering and now this comes to light. Scheer is shooting himself in the foot in this last week.


Manley Man 
Reply to @Joe Blough:
all they know. fibs and paranoia.

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Joe Blough: Methinks you don't vote for your favourite Fake Left member of peoplekind with the name you use here N'esy Pas/






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Replying to   @FloryGoncalves and 49 others
SURPRISED?

Methinks Warren Kinsella, Andrew Scheer and Maxime Bernier must remember this email N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/10/kinsella-consulting-firm-worked-to-seek.html 


I have no doubt Warren Kinsella and all his fans and foes remember this blog


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2016/06/yo-warren-kinsella-your-friend-dr-james.html





https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/project-cactus-maxime-bernier-1.5327555



Kinsella consulting firm worked to 'seek and destroy' Bernier's PPC party: documents



I have no doubt whatsoever that Warren Kinsella and all his fans and foes remember this blog



http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2016/06/yo-warren-kinsella-your-friend-dr-james.html


Wednesday, 8 June 2016


Yo Warren Kinsella your friend Dr James Sears, the fat bastard Larry McCurry and all his other pals didn't care when I bitched about Canada Post stealing my mail 3 months ago EH?



Methinks Warren Kinsella,  Andrew Scheer,  Maxime Bernier, Lisa Rait  Elizabeth May, Gerald Butts and many others MUST remember this email N'esy Pas?


 ---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 22:13:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Warren Kinsella Is the Neo Nazi Brian Ruhe anymore ethical than 

a sneaky lawyer such as you ? Survey says?
 To: wkinsella@hotmail.com, Brian Ruhe <brian@brianruhe.ca>,
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> Methinks NOT because he blocks free speech within his YouTube channel
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>
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> Paul Fromm is the Director, Canadian Association for Free Expression
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>
> This is a FAIR USE of Planned Parenthood photo from Dawn Laguens in
> Twitter.
>
> Paul Fromm is also the Director of the Canada First Immigration Reform
> Committee at: http://canadafirst.nfshost.com/
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> 3 hours ago
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 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/project-cactus-maxime-bernier-1.5327555



Kinsella consulting firm worked to 'seek and destroy' Bernier's PPC party: documents

Source tells CBC News Daisy Group was acting for the Conservative Party of Canada



Jeff Yates, Kaleigh Rogers, Andrea Bellemare · CBC News · Posted: Oct 19, 2019 12:36 AM ET




Lisa and Warren Kinsella lead Daisy Group, a Toronto-based consulting firm. Documents shown to CBC News reveal Daisy Group produced a project to "seek and destroy" Maxime Bernier's People's Party of Canada for a client that a source tells CBC News is the Conservative Party of Canada. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press)

Warren Kinsella's Daisy Group consulting firm was behind a social media campaign to put the People's Party of Canada on the defensive and keep leader Maxime Bernier out of the federal leaders' debates, according to documents provided to CBC News.

The documents outline the work done by several employees of Daisy on behalf of an unnamed client. A source with knowledge of the project told CBC News that client was the Conservative Party of Canada.

The plan was first reported Friday night by the Globe and Mail.



According to a source with knowledge of the project, who spoke to CBC News on condition they not be named, the objective of the plan, dubbed "Project Cactus," was to make the Conservative Party look more attractive to voters by highlighting PPC candidates' and supporters' xenophobic statements on social media.

The source added that Daisy employed four full-time staffers on Project Cactus at one time.
Kinsella is a lawyer, anti-racism activist and former Liberal strategist who has been a vocal critic of Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May faced criticism from her own supporters in July when it was reported that Kinsella had been hired for her party. May told The Star that Kinsella's involvement, to set up a quick-response communications unit, was short-lived.

When asked Friday for comment about his work on the anti-Bernier project, Kinsella issued a short statement.

"We don't ever discuss client matters," Kinsella said in an email. "We are always proud, however, to be fighting racism and intolerance."





Simon Jefferies, a spokesperson for the Conservative Party of Canada, told CBC News, "We do not comment on vendors or suppliers we may or may not be using."

'Seek and destroy'


Documents seen by CBC News outline a plan to "seek and destroy" the PPC and prevent Bernier from getting into the leader's debates.
The project was designed with three phases, according to the documents.
The first involved research and branding in March and April. The second was identified as a "launch phase" known as "seek and destroy," running from April 16th through to June 30, the start of the pre-writ period when new restrictions kicked in for third-party advertising.

The third phase, to run "July 1st 2019 to TBD" was called the "full steam ahead phase," where the team would "push Maxime Bernier and the PCC off their messages – forcing them, instead, to defend instances of hate speech and sympathy for racism."

Portions of a WhatsApp Chatroom set up by Daisy for Project Cactus and shared with CBC News show Daisy employees workshopping tweets critical of PPC candidates or supporters before asking Kinsella's approval. The tweets were then published on STAMP Out Hate, a Twitter account set up April 24, 2019 for an existing anti-racism nonprofit run by Daisy.



Part of the plan involved setting up a Twitter account related to an anti-hate initiative connected to Daisy, known as Standing Together Against Misogyny and Prejudice, or STAMP. (Twitter)

In the documents seen by CBC, drafted prior to the launch, STAMP is described as a screen for the project and its client.

"Daisy will create an arms-length organization that cannot be linked to the client or any participating organization. This organization will run a proxy war room public relations campaign that allows real Canadians to shine a light on the prejudice and hate that is associated with the PPC," a Daisy consultant writes.

Anti-PPC tweets dried up after June 29


Tweets for the STAMP Twitter account that were workshopped in the chatroom and later tweeted out by the account are still visible online.

The STAMP Out Hate account lambasted the PPC, its candidates and its supporters right up until June 29, a day before new election rules regarding third party advertisers came into effect. The account has since stopped attacking Bernier's party but has continued to tweet anti-racists messages.

There is no indication whether any further work was done after June 29.


 
An anti-PPC tweet sent out by the STAMP account on June 29, the final day before new third-party advertising rules kicked in. (Twitter)

The emails outlining the plan for Project Cactus say "Daisy will work to ensure this campaign is not named as a third party." Later, in the Whatsapp chat provided to CBC News, a Daisy Group employee asks when the date for third-party spending rules kick in.

Another employee replies, "June 30" and the first employee responds, "great thanks!"
CBC News reached out to multiple employees involved in the chat but either did not receive a response or were told they would not comment.
In a statement to CBC News on Friday, the executive director of the PPC said "It hardly comes as a surprise that the Conservative Party of Canada would be behind such disgraceful and cowardly tactics."

"As our Leader Maxime Bernier stated when he left the CPC and repeated on numerous occasions since then, they are 'morally and intellectually corrupt.' And today, this story proves it without a doubt," Johanne Mennie said in an email.

with files from Ashley Burke


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David Mccaig
Scheers cons can't defend this one, subverting and interferring in another conservative movement to the detriment of democratic principles. 


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @david mccaig: Methinks folks all over Canada should ask their wannabe MPs why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger, Madame May, Babyface Scheer and Mad Max will not talk about why I sued the Queen in 2015 (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) while running against them all during the election of the of the 42nd Parliament and why I am running against them right now for the last time in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas? 














George Penner
The Conservatives have a history of election illegalities. There was Kenny's leadership campaign irregularities, robo calls and the Filmon Conservatives Manitoba Vote Rigging Scandal to name a few. The Conservative Operating motto is, "The End Justifies the Means". 


Robert Jones
Reply to @david mccaig: "These Scheer cons watched Trump seize power using suspected illegal tactics"

Oh. wow. Get help, David.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Robert Jones:

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks some folks may enjoy watching something in order to reach a decision before polling day. Anyone can Google the following 3 words Fundy Royal Debate in order to find and watch a YouTube video of me stress testing with one of Harper's cabinet ministers before he lost his seat. Its a safe bet that he will win it back. However for obvious reasons I trust that all my political foes won't easily forget that I had some serious issues with each of them during the debates over this election as well N'esy Pas











David Mccaig
Fibbing on his resume, fibbing about huge Lib/NDP future debt, hiding his dual American citizenship, supporting Jason Kenney knowing he's under investigation by the RCMP accused of rigging his own election. We can't trust this guy.


Tom Elias
Reply to @david mccaig: Should we trust Trudeau, given his record?!? Don't make me laugh!

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @tom elias: Welcome to the Circus
 












Dionne Albert
The new right. What a disgrace. The end justifies the means. All deceit, all the time.


Gordon Kent
Reply to @Dionne Albert: Nobody does dir ty politics and c o rru ption like the Laurentian elites.
Tom Elias 
Reply to @Dionne Albert: The perfect summary of the last 4 years of Trudeau Liberal rule!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @tom elias: Methinks many folks who( won't bother to vote today (including me even though my name is on a ballot again for the 7th time) would agree that the same can be said of all political parties N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Gordon Kent: Oh So True














Vaino Lund
This Donald Trump style CON MAN electioneering is NOT welcome in Canada. That is some deep down shadey stuff. Yet for some reason Alberta will blindly vote him in.


Robert Jones
Reply to @Sandy Gillis: "Is that the type of logic that makes sense in your head? Man, we've really gotta bring in a basic competency test prior to being allowed to vote. "

That's what I said to the guy above who claims the Conservatives "have the market cornered on dirty politics". Not even close to being true.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Vaino Lund: Methinks you forgot that the lawyer Kinsella who describes himself as the "Prince of Darkness" of Canadian politics worked as a staffer in Jean Chrétien's office when he was opposition leader then ran the "War Room" for the liberals when the liberal swept the floor with the PC Party and the Reform party became the opposition.. After the Liberals won the election, Kinsella briefly became the Chief of Staff fof the overly entitled Maritime lawyer David Dingwall

I trust that the lawyer Berier and many other many otherCanadians know Kinsella ran as a Liberal candidate in the 1997 federal election in the riding of North Vancouver and was defeated by the Reform incumbent Ted White and now he works for the Reform dudes Now Thats Too Too Funny N'esy Pas?








https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9530933-people-s-party-leader-maxime-bernier-pictured-with-hamilton-white-nationalist-paul-fromm/



People’s Party leader Maxime Bernier pictured with Hamilton white nationalist Paul Fromm

Coun. Brad Clark ‘outraged that some political leaders are willing to embrace’ groups that promote hatred.

News Aug 01, 2019 by Teviah Moro
 
Fromm
Paul Fromm, left, a Hamilton-based white nationalist, poses with Maxime Bernier, leader of the People’s Party of Canada, during a recent rally. A party spokesperson said Bernier had no idea who he was with. - Facebook 

Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People's Party of Canada, has been photographed with Hamilton-based white nationalist Paul Fromm during a recent rally.

Fromm is the director of the Canadian Association for Free Expression (CAFE) and the Canada First Immigration Reform Committee.

In a July 26 Facebook post, he writes the People's Party of Canada's "immigration platform finally offers us a start at regaining control of our borders ..." as part of a caption for a photograph of him with Bernier.

People's Party of Canada executive director Johanne Mennie didn't respond to a request for comment Thursday, but told HuffPost Canada Bernier "had no idea who this individual was."

Brad Clark, a Hamilton city councillor and former Ontario Progressive Conservative cabinet minister, suggested Thursday that he didn't accept that explanation.

"I think it's incumbent on every politician to be aware of what's going on in our community and not in any way, shape or form, give validity or veracity to these groups," Clark told The Spectator during an anti-hate forum at McMaster University's continuing education campus in Jackson Square.

Fromm was stripped of his Ontario teaching licence in 2007 for unprofessional conduct outside the classroom because he embraced views and beliefs contrary to multiculturalism and tolerance, and participated in white supremacist groups and events.

He previously supported Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel, who was deported to Germany in 2005 after a Canadian judge deemed him a security threat.

Bernier, who split from the federal Conservatives to launch his far-right People's Party of Canada (PPC) last year, has courted controversy for public appearances with questionable far-right actors in the past.

Before Fromm, the Quebec politician had already been photographed with members of the Northern Guard, an alleged hate group, in Calgary, the CBC reported. At that time, Bernier also said he didn't know who they were.

Bernier also confirmed to the Globe and Mail in September 2018 he'd spoken to Travis Patron, the leader of the fringe anti-immigration Canadian Nationalist Party. He said he wouldn't speak to Patron again.

Patron's group, which hopes to register enough members to become a party, notes the organization's goals are to "improve the social and economic conditions of an ethnocentric Canada."

Fromm, who ran unsuccessfully for Hamilton mayor in the last election, delivered racist pamphlets to people's doors in a neighbourhood around the former Henderson Hospital on the Mountain during an Ebola scare in 2001. 

Marc Lemire — who's on leave from his IT position at city hall amid an investigation — was a member of the now-defunct Heritage Front, a neo-Nazi organization, who also distributed the hate-mongering pamphlets.

The PPC's platform laments a "growing trend to dilute national sovereignty" and a "globalist vision" for Canada under Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. It also rejects Canada's participation in a United Nations agreement on the migration, a wedge issue for far-right groups.

In February, the party's candidates failed to win seats in three federal byelections. They garnered less than two per cent of the vote in an Ontario riding, two per cent in a race in Quebec and 29 per cent in a British Columbia riding.

Ameil Joseph, a McMaster social work professor who studies racism, told The Spectator in a previous interview that discourses in the political mainstream can embolden hate groups.

"When we internalize those ideas, they're dangerous ones. We don't have an opportunity to access the kind of discourse that helps us with those problems. But what we get is Maxime Bernier, who's blaming immigrants, or who's blaming political correctness for problems relating to how we function as a society."

Clark said he's concerned "recognizable hate groups" are seeking legitimacy in the political sphere.
"And I am outraged that some political leaders are willing to embrace those groups just for the initial votes, and later trying to denounce hatred against identifiable groups. You can't have it both ways."

The Stoney Creek councillor was one of roughly 100 people who attended a No Hate in the Hammer campaign launch organized by the Hamilton Community Legal Clinic, Hamilton Roundable Against Poverty and the John Howard Society
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Subject: Automatic reply: YO Maxime Bernier and Nathalie.Drouin
Methinks you two French lawyers should enjoy a litte Deja Vu ce jour
N'esy Pas Mr Butts???
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 16:19:52 -0300
Subject: YO Maxime Bernier and Nathalie.Drouin Methinks you two French
lawyers should enjoy a litte Deja Vu ce jour N'esy Pas Mr Butts???
To: beauce@lehoux2019.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
info@peoplespartyofcanada.ca, meryl.sarty@gmail.com,
hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com,
Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov,
David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca, Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca,
jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, ppcvangran@gmail.com,
travis-ppc.nbsw@protonmail.com, vansouth@greenparty.ca,
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Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, rudolf_neumayer@yahoo.ca,
adam4sj@gmail.com, Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca,
sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca, Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca,
mcu@justice.gc.ca, martine.turcotte@bell.ca


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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:03:00 -0400
Subject: Attn Richard Lehoux I just called again
To: beauce@lehoux2019.ca, "maxime.bernier"
<maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, josiane.fortin@mail.mcgill.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

https://www.conservative.ca/team-member/richard-lehoux/



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:32:30 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : A wicked war of words with CBC is going
on right now about the Conservative critc Rob Moore whom I ran against
twice in Fundy Royal
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Bonjour,

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:55:35 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : YO Mr Trump Its interesting that my
comments are still rolling while the other CBC website about Trudeau
"The Younger" has been closed for hours
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 01:06:41 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : I see that one of the Conservatives'
best friends Rene Basque the first Acadian to head the CBA is as much
of a crybaby about LIEbranos, Judges and "Justice" as your are N'esy
Pas Chucky Lelanc?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

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Veuillez prendre note que le bureau sera fermé jusqu'au 9 janvier 2017.
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 00:40:26 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : Softwood Tariffs Thanks for asking Ms
Amyotte Here is a little that I crossed paths with the evil Yankee
lawyer David Wilkins many years ago N'esy Pas Mr MONEY Minister
Morneau?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 18:26:11 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : Attn Loik Amis I must ask you the
obvious question Why didn't LexisNexis offer any of the decisions in
my matter to their clients or have Lawyers Weekly at least report
about it?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

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Veuillez prendre note que le bureau sera fermé du 23 juin au 3 juillet.
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 19:12:39 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : I just called again Unless otherwise
notified I will serve the lawyer Christopher M. Rupar my documents
destined for the Supreme Court
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:03:53 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : Attn Daniel Gosselin why I have not
recieved any response from you or your lawyers to my phone calls and
emails about the questionable fax and emails your people have sent me
recently?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Drouin, Nathalie (BRQ)" <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:03:43 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : Attn Daniel Gosselin why I have not
recieved any response from you or your lawyers to my phone calls and
emails about the questionable fax and emails your people have sent me
recently?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Veuillez noter que je suis absente jusqu'au 7 janvier 2019, sans accès
à mes courriels.   Pour toute question qui ne peut attendre mon
retour, je vous invite à communiquer avec mon adjointe Irène Ghobril
au 514-283-5687. Merci.

Please note that I am away until January 7, 2019, with no access to my
e-mails. For assistance, please contact Irène Ghobril at 514-283-5687.
Thank you.

NOTIFICATION ÉLECTRONIQUE: NotificationPGC-AGC.Civil@justice.gc.ca



---------- Original message ----------
From: Kevin Leahy <kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:38:43 -0400
Subject: Re: RE The call from the Boston cop Robert Ridge (857 259
9083) on behalf of the VERY corrupt Yankee DA Rachael Rollins
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

French will follow

Thank you for your email.

For inquiries regarding EMRO’s Office, please address your email to
acting EMRO Sebastien Brillon at sebastien.brillon@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

For inquiries regarding CO NHQ Office, please address your email to
acting CO Farquharson, David at David.Farquharson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

All PPS related correspondence should be sent to my PPS account at
kevin.leahy@pps-spp@parl.gc.ca
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Merci pour votre courriel.

Pour toute question concernant le Bureau de l'EMRO, veuillez adresser
vos courriels à l’Officier responsable des Relations
employeur-employés par intérim Sébastien Brillon  à l'adresse suivante
 sebastien.brillon@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

Pour toute  question concernant le bureau du Commandant de la
Direction générale, veuillez adresser vos courriels au   Commandant de
la Direction générale par intérim Farquharson, David  à l'adresse
suivante   David.Farquharson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

Toute correspondance relative au Service De Protection Parlementaire
doit être envoyée à mon compte de PPS à l'adresse suivante
kevin.leahy@pps-spp@parl.gc.ca


Kevin Leahy
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Director, Parliamentary Protective Service
Directeur , Service de protection parlementaire
T 613-996-5048
Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

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---------- Original message ----------
From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 16:38:41 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE The call from the Boston cop Robert Ridge
(857 259 9083) on behalf of the VERY corrupt Yankee DA Rachael Rollins
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly valued.

You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
reviewed and taken into consideration.

There may be occasions when, given the issues you have raised and the
need to address them effectively, we will forward a copy of your
correspondence to the appropriate government official. Accordingly, a
response may take several business days.

Thanks again for your email.
______­­

Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations.

Nous tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.

Dans certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère
responsable afin que les questions soulevées puissent être traitées de
la manière la plus efficace possible. En conséquence, plusieurs jours
ouvrables pourraient s’écouler avant que nous puissions vous répondre.

Merci encore pour votre courriel.



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 11:55:57 -0400
Subject: Re the CBA, the RCMP, Federal Court File # T-1557-15 and the
Hearing before the Federal Court of Appeal on May 24th 2017
To: ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
"bob.paulson" <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>, "bill.pentney"
<bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, Mordaith
<Mordaith@gmail.com>, "leanne.murray"
<leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>,
"Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "nick.moore"
<nick.moore@bellmedia.ca>, "jeremy.keefe"
<jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
"Gilles.Blinn" <Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca>, sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch
<jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"Larry.Tremblay" <Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "luc.labonte"
<luc.labonte@gnb.ca>

As I told the RCMP who called me last month the proper time and place
to discuss the CBA and your former partner Judge Richard Bell is the
Federal Court of Canada

Raymond G. Adlington Partner
McInnes Cooper
1300-1969 Upper Water St., Purdy's Wharf Tower II PO Box 730, Stn. Central
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2V1
Phone: (902) 444-8470
Fax: (902) 425-6350
E: ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com

http://www.mcinnescooper.com/news/ray-adlington-named-to-cba-board-of-directors/

Ray Adlington named to CBA Board of Directors

    May 2, 2017

Halifax partner Ray Adlington was recently named to the CBA Board of Directors.

In their announcement yesterday the CBA advised that the board would
come into effect September 1st, 2017.

    After collecting extensive input over the past two years, we know
that CBA members believe it’s important for the organization to have a
Board of Directors that reflects the diversity of the legal
profession, including a mix of practice types, experience, skills,
geography and more.
    Our new Board of Directors exemplifies this principle.

The board is composed from one member from each province as well as
the CBA President.

Congratulations Ray on this well deserved appointment.





> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 16:15:59 -0400
> Subject: Hey Ralph Goodale perhaps you and the RCMP should call the
> Yankees Governor Charlie Baker, his lawyer Bob Ross, Rachael Rollins
> and this cop Robert Ridge (857 259 9083) ASAP EH Mr Primme Minister
> Trudeau the Younger and Donald Trump Jr?
> To: pm@pm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
> Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca, djtjr@trumporg.com,
> Donald.J.Trump@donaldtrump.com, JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca,
> Frank.McKenna@td.com, barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> Douglas.Johnson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> gov.press@state.ma.us, bob.ross@state.ma.us, jfurey@nbpower.com,
> jfetzer@d.umn.edu, Newsroom@globeandmail.com, sfine@globeandmail.com,
> .Poitras@cbc.ca, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
> Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, news@kingscorecord.com,
> news@dailygleaner.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com,
> andre@jafaust.com>
> Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, DJT@trumporg.com
> wharrison@nbpower.com, David.Lametti@parl.gc.camcu@justice.gc.ca,
> Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca
>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Murray, Charles (Ombud)" <Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
>> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:16:15 +0000
>> Subject: You wished to speak with me
>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> I have the advantage, sir, of having read many of your emails over the
>> years.
>>
>>
>> As such, I do not think a phone conversation between us, and
>> specifically one which you might mistakenly assume was in response to
>> your threat of legal action against me, is likely to prove a
>> productive use of either of our time.
>>
>>
>> If there is some specific matter about which you wish to communicate
>> with me, feel free to email me with the full details and it will be
>> given due consideration.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Charles Murray
>>
>> Ombud NB
>>
>> Acting Integrity Commissioner
>>
>>
>>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos,
>>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
>>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
>>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
>>> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
>>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
>>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
>>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>>>
>>> Department of Justice
>>>
>>> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
>>>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>>>>
>>>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
>>>> ilian.html
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>>>
>>>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>>>
>>>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>>>> cards?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>>>>> 6
>>>>>
>>>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>>>
>>>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>>>
>>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>>>> United States Senate
>>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>>>> tapes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very truly yours,
>>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Good Day Sir
>>>>
>>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>>
>>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>>
>>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>>
>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>>>
>>>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>>>
>>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>>>
>>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>>>
>>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>>
>>>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>>
>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>>
>>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>>
>>>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>>
>>>> Date: 20151223
>>>>
>>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>>
>>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>>
>>>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>>
>>>> BETWEEN:
>>>>
>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>>
>>>> Plaintiff
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>>
>>>> Defendant
>>>>
>>>> ORDER
>>>>
>>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>>
>>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>>> in its entirety.
>>>>
>>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>>>> he stated:
>>>>
>>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>>
>>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>>> Police.
>>>>
>>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>>
>>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>>> Judge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>>
>>>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>>
>>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>>> most
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>>>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>>>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>>>> dudes are way past too late
>>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>>
>>>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Merci ,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>>
>>>> January 13, 2015
>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>>
>>>> December 8, 2014
>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>>
>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>>
>>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>>
>>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>>
>>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>>
>>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>>
>>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>>
>>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>>
>>>> January 30, 2007
>>>>
>>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>>
>>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>>
>>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>>
>>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>>> Minister of Health
>>>>
>>>> CM/cb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>>
>>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>>
>>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>>
>>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>>
>>>>  Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sunday, 19 November 2017
>>> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
>>> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
>>> The Supreme Court
>>>
>>> https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do
>>>
>>>
>>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>>>
>>> Amos v. Canada
>>> Court (s) Database
>>>
>>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>>> Date
>>>
>>> 2017-10-30
>>> Neutral citation
>>>
>>> 2017 FCA 213
>>> File numbers
>>>
>>> A-48-16
>>> Date: 20171030
>>>
>>> Docket: A-48-16
>>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>>> CORAM:
>>>
>>> WEBB J.A.
>>> NEAR J.A.
>>> GLEASON J.A.
>>>
>>>
>>> BETWEEN:
>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formally Appellant)
>>> and
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formerly Respondent)
>>> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
>>> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>>>
>>> THE COURT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: 20171030
>>>
>>> Docket: A-48-16
>>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>>> CORAM:
>>>
>>> WEBB J.A.
>>> NEAR J.A.
>>> GLEASON J.A.
>>>
>>>
>>> BETWEEN:
>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formally Appellant)
>>> and
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formerly Respondent)
>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
>>>
>>> I.                    Introduction
>>>
>>> [1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
>>> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
>>> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
>>> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
>>> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
>>> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
>>> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
>>> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
>>> (Claim at para. 96).
>>>
>>> [2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
>>> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
>>> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
>>> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
>>> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
>>> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
>>> Prothontary’s Order).
>>>
>>>
>>> [3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
>>> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
>>> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
>>> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
>>> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
>>> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
>>>
>>>
>>> [4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
>>> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
>>> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
>>> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
>>> cross-appeal.
>>>
>>>
>>> II.                 Preliminary Matter
>>>
>>> [5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
>>> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
>>> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
>>> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
>>> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
>>> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
>>> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
>>> several judges but did not name those judges.
>>>
>>> [6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
>>> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
>>> had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
>>> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
>>> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
>>> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
>>> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
>>> c. F-7:
>>>
>>>
>>> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
>>> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
>>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
>>> Appeal.
>>> […]
>>>
>>> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
>>> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
>>> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
>>> […]
>>> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
>>> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
>>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
>>>
>>> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
>>> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
>>> juges de la Cour fédérale.
>>>
>>>
>>> [7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
>>> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
>>> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
>>> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
>>> section.
>>> [8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide
>>> that:
>>> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
>>> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
>>> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
>>> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
>>> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
>>> a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>>>
>>> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
>>> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
>>> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
>>> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
>>> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
>>> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
>>> matière civile et pénale.
>>> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
>>> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
>>> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
>>> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
>>> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
>>> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>>>
>>> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
>>> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
>>> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
>>> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
>>> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
>>> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
>>> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
>>>
>>>
>>> [9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
>>> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
>>> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
>>> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
>>> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
>>> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
>>> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
>>> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
>>> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
>>> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
>>> appeal book.
>>>
>>>
>>> [10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
>>> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
>>> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
>>> conflict in any matter related to him.
>>>
>>>
>>> [11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
>>> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
>>> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
>>> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
>>> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
>>> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
>>> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
>>> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
>>> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
>>> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
>>> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
>>> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
>>>
>>>
>>> [12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
>>> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
>>> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
>>> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
>>> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
>>> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
>>> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
>>> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
>>> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
>>> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
>>> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
>>> such judge had a conflict.
>>>
>>>
>>> [13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
>>> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
>>> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
>>> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
>>> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
>>> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
>>> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
>>> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
>>> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
>>> was a member of such firm.
>>>
>>>
>>> [14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
>>> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
>>> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
>>> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
>>> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
>>> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
>>> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
>>> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
>>> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> [15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
>>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
>>> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
>>> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
>>> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
>>> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
>>> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
>>> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
>>> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
>>> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
>>> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
>>> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
>>> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
>>> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
>>> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
>>> [16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
>>> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
>>> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
>>> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
>>> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
>>> apprehension of bias:
>>> 60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
>>> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
>>> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
>>> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
>>> reasonable apprehension of bias:
>>> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
>>> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
>>> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
>>> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
>>> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
>>> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
>>> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
>>> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
>>>
>>> [17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
>>> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
>>> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
>>> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
>>> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
>>> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
>>> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
>>> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
>>> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
>>> (4th) 193).
>>>
>>> [18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
>>> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
>>> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
>>> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
>>> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
>>> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
>>> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
>>> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
>>> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
>>> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
>>> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
>>> 27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
>>> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
>>> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
>>> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
>>>
>>>
>>> 28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
>>> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
>>> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
>>> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
>>> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
>>> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
>>> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
>>> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
>>> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
>>> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
>>>
>>>
>>> 29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
>>> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
>>> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
>>> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
>>> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
>>> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
>>> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
>>> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
>>> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
>>> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
>>> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
>>> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
>>> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
>>> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
>>> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
>>> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
>>>
>>>
>>> 30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
>>> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
>>> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
>>> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
>>> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
>>> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
>>> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
>>> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
>>>             To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
>>> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
>>> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
>>> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
>>> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
>>> or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
>>> 31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
>>> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
>>> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
>>> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
>>> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
>>>
>>>
>>> 32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
>>> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
>>> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
>>> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
>>> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
>>> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
>>> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
>>> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
>>> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
>>> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
>>> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
>>> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
>>> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
>>> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
>>> events from over a decade ago.
>>> (emphasis added)
>>>
>>> [19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
>>> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
>>> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
>>> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
>>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
>>> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
>>> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
>>> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
>>> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
>>> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
>>> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
>>> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
>>> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
>>> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
>>> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
>>> Webb hearing this appeal.
>>>
>>> [20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
>>> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
>>> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
>>> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
>>> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
>>>
>>> [21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
>>> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
>>> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
>>> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
>>> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
>>> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
>>> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
>>>
>>> [22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
>>> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
>>> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
>>> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
>>> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
>>> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
>>> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
>>> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
>>> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
>>> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
>>>
>>> [23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
>>> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
>>> to recuse himself.
>>>
>>> [24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
>>> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
>>> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
>>> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
>>> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
>>>
>>> [25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
>>> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
>>> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
>>> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
>>> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
>>> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
>>> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
>>> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
>>> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
>>> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
>>> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
>>> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
>>>
>>>
>>> III.               Issue
>>>
>>> [26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
>>> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
>>> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
>>> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
>>> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
>>>
>>> IV.              Analysis
>>>
>>> A.                 Standard of Review
>>>
>>> [27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
>>> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
>>> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
>>> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
>>> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
>>> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
>>> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
>>> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
>>> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
>>> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
>>> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
>>> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
>>> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
>>> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
>>> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
>>> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
>>> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
>>> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
>>> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
>>>
>>> [28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
>>> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
>>> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
>>> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
>>> interfere.
>>>
>>>
>>> B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
>>> Prothonotary’s Order?
>>>
>>> [29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
>>> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
>>> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
>>>
>>> 17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
>>> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
>>> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
>>> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
>>> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
>>> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
>>> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
>>> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
>>> (…)
>>>
>>>
>>> 21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
>>> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
>>> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
>>> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
>>> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
>>> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
>>> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
>>> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
>>> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
>>> [footnotes omitted].
>>>
>>>
>>> [30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
>>> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
>>> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
>>> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
>>> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
>>> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
>>> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
>>> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
>>> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
>>> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
>>> para. 27).
>>>
>>>
>>> [31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
>>> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
>>> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
>>> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
>>>
>>>
>>> [13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
>>> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
>>> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
>>> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
>>>
>>> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
>>> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
>>>
>>> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
>>> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
>>>
>>> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
>>> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
>>> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
>>> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
>>> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
>>>
>>> [32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
>>> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
>>> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
>>> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
>>> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
>>>
>>> [33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
>>> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
>>> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
>>>
>>> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
>>> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
>>> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
>>> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
>>> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
>>> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
>>> of process…
>>>
>>> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
>>> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
>>> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
>>> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
>>> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
>>> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
>>> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
>>> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
>>> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
>>>
>>> [34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
>>> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
>>> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
>>>
>>> [35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
>>> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
>>> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
>>> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
>>> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
>>> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
>>> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
>>> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
>>> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
>>> these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
>>> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
>>> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
>>> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
>>> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
>>> supporting a cause of action.
>>>
>>> [36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
>>> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
>>> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
>>> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
>>> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
>>> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
>>> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
>>> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
>>>
>>> V.                 Conclusion
>>> [37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
>>> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
>>> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
>>> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
>>> without leave to amend.
>>> "Wyman W. Webb"
>>> J.A.
>>> "David G. Near"
>>> J.A.
>>> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
>>> J.A.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
>>> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
>>>
>>> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
>>> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
>>> DOCKET:
>>>
>>> A-48-16
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> STYLE OF CAUSE:
>>>
>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PLACE OF HEARING:
>>>
>>> Fredericton,
>>> New Brunswick
>>>
>>> DATE OF HEARING:
>>>
>>> May 24, 2017
>>>
>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
>>>
>>> WEBB J.A.
>>> NEAR J.A.
>>> GLEASON J.A.
>>>
>>> DATED:
>>>
>>> October 30, 2017
>>>
>>> APPEARANCES:
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>
>>>
>>> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
>>> (on his own behalf)
>>>
>>> Jan Jensen
>>>
>>>
>>> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>>>
>>> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
>>> Nathalie G. Drouin
>>> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
>>>
>>> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>>>
>>>
>







https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/hamilton-hate-crime-1.5313965



Hamilton is getting a reputation for hate, and critics say the city hasn't done enough to fight it

Expert says city should be a 'cautionary tale' for other Canadian communities



Samantha Craggs · CBC News · Posted: Oct 08, 2019 7:08 PM ET




The issue of hate in Hamilton came to the forefront at a June 15 Pride celebration, when several people were injured in a violent clash between protesters and counter-protesters. (Youtube/Scotsmanstuart)

This story is part of Exposing Hate, an ongoing series examining the nature of hate in Canada: how it manifests, spreads and thrives and how Canadian institutions, law enforcement and individuals are dealing with it. 

It's a bright Saturday morning on the Hamilton city hall forecourt, and the crowd is split down the middle. Members of the yellow vest movement and far-right groups stand on one side. Rainbow flag wavers with signs displaying slogans like "Diversity is strength" are on the other.

"You all hang with Nazis," a man with the rainbow flag bearers shouts at a woman standing with the yellow vests. "When you hang out with Nazis, you become one."












"We want to see Canada free and great again the way it used to be," the woman hollers back. "Jesus is the Lord over Canada."

This could be any Saturday morning in any city in Canada before too long, says Tina Fetner, a McMaster University researcher who studies social movements.

"It's very important for Hamilton to be a cautionary tale for other cities," Fetner said. "I'm very certain that this is going to be knocking at the door of other cities across Canada. This is something that is a larger phenomenon than Hamilton. It's happening all over Western Europe and North America."

WATCH | The rhetoric gets ugly during a confrontation at one of the Saturday rallies that have been become a weekly occurrence outside Hamilton city hall:


A heated exchange breaks out at a rally outside Hamilton city hall that was attended by white nationalist Paul Fromm. 0:29

She and others see Hamilton, where confrontations like this have been escalating for months, as an example of what not to do to when dealing with the tension and violence that have accompanied such demonstrations.

Members of the yellow vest movement — which started in France to oppose rising fuel prices but expanded to include far-right grievances over issues such as immigration and accommodation of minorities — gathered weekly in front of city hall for six months before city council voted in June to look at how to handle the demonstrations.












At their height, the protests have included as many as 40 people. They've drawn members of better-known far-right groups such as Soldiers of Odin, Wolves of Odin and Proud Boys to the Ontario city of 530,000 people 70 kilometres southwest of Toronto. Some weekends, only a half dozen regulars assemble. Self-described white nationalist Paul Fromm has been spotted at the protests.

Hamilton had Canada's highest per-capita rate of hate crimes for the last three out of five years, according to Statistics Canada. There were 17.1 hate incidents per 100,000 people, with those incidents ranging from graffiti to assault.

So far this year, there have been 76 hate crimes or incidents, which is four per cent less than this time last year, according to the city's hate crimes unit. Of those, 73 were classified as "incidents," meaning the crimes displayed some hate or bias, but police haven't determined if that was a motivating factor. In the other three, police have determined that hate was a motivating factor.

WATCH | Tensions escalate into violence at the Pride festival in Hamilton this June:
 

Counter-protesters in pink face masks who identified as anarchists get in a scuffle with some of the people who came to disrupt the June 15 Pride celebrations in Hamilton. (Scotsmanstuart/YouTube) 0:16

It's hard to know why Hamilton's statistics are so high, but the answer might partially lie in the definition of hate crime itself.

Police departments across the country use varying definitions of "hate crime," and officers use that definition to determine which crimes to include in the statistics.

Hamilton Police Service's definition is comprehensive, calling a hate crime an offence that "was motivated solely, or in part, because of bias or prejudice." Other police services, such as the Quebec provincial police, have no definition at all.

For some Hamilton residents, hate toward minorities and marginalized groups is, in the words of LGBTQ resident and activist Graham Crawford, "a civic crisis."

Tensions escalate at gay pride festival


Shouting matches between activists denouncing hate and advocating immigrant rights and supporters of the People's Party of Canada, which wants to reduce immigration to Canada, escalated on Sept. 29 when a violent scuffle broke out in a crowd of about 100 at a talk by the party's leader, Maxime Bernier.


Cameron Kroetsch, who sat on the Pride Hamilton board of directors, says police took too long to respond to the violence at the June Pride celebration. (Richard Agecoutay/CBC)

But that confrontation paled in comparison to the one that occurred on June 15 at the Pride festival.

A group crashed the festival in Hamilton's sprawling Gage Park with homophobic slogans displayed on signs and broadcast through a loud speaker. A number of people in pink masks identifying themselves as anarchists manoeuvered a portable barrier to block them. Punching, shoving and hitting broke out between the two groups. Several people were injured.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger, who didn't attend the Pride celebration, tweeted his disappointment with that happened the next day. He released a formal statement more than a week later.
It came too late and read like he "wrote it six months ago and put it in a drawer," said Crawford, who last year received the city's "citizen of the year" honour.

A group of individuals identifying as anarchists lashed out by planting signs on Eisenberger's front lawn that read: "Mayor doesn't care about queer people."

The response from the city's police department and its chief, Eric Girt, inspired more distrust.

WATCH | Hamilton police hold back protesters trying to stop supporters of the People's Party of Canada going to hear the party's leader, Maxime Bernier, last month:
  

A peaceful protest outside an event for Maxime Bernier turned violent Sunday evening as supporters of the People's Party of Canada began to arrive and enter the venue. 0:36

Cameron Kroetsch, a member of the Pride Hamilton board of directors, said police took too long to intervene in the fracas, even though Pride volunteers had told police in advance where the group with signs would likely appear.

By the end of it, they arrested three counter-protesters and, 10 days after the incident, one anti-Pride protester. The first Pride-related arrest was a transgender anarchist police said was part of the Pride violence but who a parole board later ruled wasn't in the park that day.

"Police are focusing on the wrong people," Crawford said.
Girt further angered his critics when he said police would have "deployed differently" at Pride if the festival had invited police to patrol there rather than urging uniformed officers to stay on the perimeter.

"This is not the way to build trust or to repair the damage you've done," Kroetsch tweeted.

In a later radio interview, Girt was asked about the police relationship with the LGBTQ community, and he referenced working together to address the problem of people having sex in public washrooms. He also said police are obligated to uphold the constitutional right to freedom of expression, and made seemingly unrelated references to the decriminalization of anal sex. He later apologized.

Distrust between minorities and law enforcement


The city has been dogged by other headlines that point to the presence of hate groups. The public learned in the spring that Marc Lemire, who has ties to a white supremacist organization, had worked in the city's IT department since 2005. (Lemire is no longer with the city.)

There's a perceived tone deafness among authority figures that's enraged people, Fetner said.

"I think that if you don't nip it in the bud with a very serious and clear statement of values, and then back that up by bringing people out into a large counter-protest to make it very clear that hate is not welcome in your town, then you may risk being a place where people gather like Hamilton has become."
 

Recent rallies in front of Hamilton city hall have brought clashes between yellow vest supporters and their opponents, which includes anti-fascists in black masks. (Samantha Craggs/CBC)

Kiel Hughes, 29, is black and LGBTQ. He says he started feeling the strain within the city in earnest in December 2016, one month after the election of Donald Trump as president in the U.S. Hughes left his Hamilton home for work one morning, he said, and found "n--ger die" written in the snow on his car.

"I just dropped everything that was in my hands and took a moment to try and collect myself," he said. When he got to work, he showed a coworker a photo and "her face was like she saw a ghost. She just grabbed me and hugged me."

Hughes reported the incident to police and flagged authorities again when he received a threatening message online. But he says he wouldn't go to police now. The targets of hate, he said, are often the focus of police.
"When you follow the news, you hear of this trans woman arrested, this gay person arrested, but you're never hearing about the other side getting arrested," Hughes said. "So I don't want to go down there and be the black one that's been arrested."

Police, he said, will "always look at my reaction but never the action that got my reaction."
Hamilton police spokesperson Jackie Penman says she's sorry to hear Hughes wouldn't feel safe reporting a hate crime to police.
 

Hate has been growing online, says Tina Fetner, a sociologist at McMaster University. But lately, "pockets of physical organizations cropping up, like people coming together around protest sites and occasional rallies." (Richard Agecoutay/CBC)

"Hamilton Police take hate crime seriously, and we would always encourage any person to report such incidents to police in order to initiate an investigation," she said in an email.

"We've made a concerted effort to reach out to our diverse communities to ensure citizens know where and how to report hate crimes/incidents, particularly where physical violence is involved."

Still, CBC News spoke to more than a dozen visible minority and LGBTQ residents in Hamilton, and they echoed Hughes's sentiments.

"What we constantly get from the mayor, and from the chief, is defensiveness, instead of 'Wow, people are really angry at me. What's happening here? What do I need to change about my behaviour?' " said Lyla Miklos, former chair of the city's LGBTQ advisory committee.

"It's all this, 'It's your fault because you're mad at me' kind of thing, and it's very frustrating to sit and watch."
 

Residents have started counter-protesting in front of city hall with pro-diversity, immigration and LGBTQ signs. (Samantha Craggs/CBC)

Not everyone feels the tension. Debanjan Borthakur, a McMaster University graduate student who is also a person of colour, was at the Gandhi Peace Festival at city hall last Saturday. He said he hasn't noticed an escalation of hate in Hamilton.

"That's my experience," he said. "Others may have a different experience."

The mayor spoke at that event, acknowledging the criticism of him and the police and telling the crowd he is "firmly denouncing all those that spew hate, no matter who they are."

"I know in my heart that this is a welcoming and diverse city," he said.

Balancing right to protest and protection for all


The city is looking at how to stop the Saturday protests. Earlier this year, council voted to improve its security cameras and collect data from demonstrations, and the city hired a new security investigator to analyze that information. Council will also review its trespassing bylaw this month.

Eisenberger said he's looking at getting a court injunction but that the city has to balance the constitutional right to freedom of expression with calls to shut down the protests.


Kiel Hughes says he's been victim of a hate crime, but wouldn't report another one. He worries police would scrutinize his reaction to the crime, not the crime itself. (CBC)

"We're doing everything we can, including looking at an injunction on the forecourt, that might prevent these groups from forming there," he said outside a police services board meeting this month.

"I think that's a high hurdle, but we're exploring those opportunities."

Justin Long, a spokesperson for the Hamilton yellow vest group, told CBC News the group has switched to protesting at other spots around the city. That's to escape "attacks by Antifa," he said, using a term for the militant far-left protesters who often clash with far-right and white nationalist groups at demonstrations.

Groups like Soldiers of Odin and Proud Boys are there "for security," Long said.

The Soldiers of Odin have been described as "an anti-refugee vigilante group" by the Anti-Defamation League and have organized neighbourhood patrols in Quebec City and elsewhere claiming to protect locals from Muslim immigrants.
The Proud Boys say they're a fraternal organization that practises "Western chauvinism" but has  appeared at far-right and white nationalist rallies in the U.S., including at the deadly August 2017 rally in Charlottesville, Va. Last year, accounts and pages affiliated with the group were banned by Instagram and Facebook for violating their policies on hate speech and organizations.


'I know in my heart that (Hamilton) is a welcoming and diverse city,' says Mayor Fred Eisenberger. (Chris Young/Canadian Press)

Long said the yellow vest group will keep protesting until Canada walks back its participation in a United Nations immigration pact. That pact outlines 23 points for treating migrants humanely and efficiently. But Long said it's evidence the government isn't listening to people.

"We're going to be protesting and raising awareness until we get some accountability from our government," he said.

'Dialogue is ongoing,' says mayor


Eisenberger has attended a weekly counter-protest against the yellow vest group, and some councillors have shown up several times. The mayor appointed two volunteers to advise him on LGBTQ issues, although one has since stepped down.

"We've had a number of meetings with the queer and trans community on an ongoing basis, so that dialogue continues," Eisenberger said.

"We've had meetings with the broader community, with the Muslim, the black, the Jewish, all the targets of hate in our community, and that dialogue is ongoing."

Eisenberger disputes that the city and police have been slow responding or let hate flourish.
 

Justin Long, third from left, has been protesting with the yellow vests in Hamilton since December. He says his group isn't racist or homophobic, just concerned about a United Nations migration pact. (Laura Howells/CBC)

"That's not who I am," he said. "That's not what I've done. And they can continue to share that narrative, but that's not what I believe."

The Ontario Office of the Independent Police Review Director is investigating a complaint regarding police conduct on the day of the Pride festival. Girt is also investigating three internal complaints. Eisenberger, who chairs the police services board, says officers are doing "a terrific job" dealing with the protests.

"These [issues] are not unique to Hamilton," he said. "They're happening, you know, not only here but across the country."

When asked about community mistrust, Girt said he wants to "move the dialogue forward." Police had one meeting with members of the LGBTQ community and plan to have more.

"We understand the hurt to this community," he told CBC News outside a police services board meeting. "It's a reason I apologized for the comments [on the radio]. I'm not looking to hurt the community anymore. We want to move in a positive direction."
 

Hate in Hamilton, says Graham Crawford, is "a civic crisis." (Richard Agecoutay/CBC)

Statistics Canada numbers show an upward trend when it comes to reported hate crimes in Canada. There were 1,798 hate-motivated crimes last year, for example, compared to 1,295 in 2014.

'These are complex issues'


While hate appears to be growing online, said Fetner, there are also "pockets of physical organizations cropping up, like people coming together around protest sites and occasional rallies."

"It's going to be really important to figure out a clear way to talk about freedom of speech rights, but at the same time still hold to your values."

Asked what his advice would be to other cities, Eisenberger told CBC News that "communication and dialogue is critical."

"The yellow vests claim that I'm not supporting them, and they have issues, and the anarchists are saying similar things," he said.

"These are complex issues, and they don't have any easy answers. And we're going to do everything we can to try and ensure that we continue to provide a safe community."
 
This story is part of an ongoing series examining the nature of hate in Canada: how it manifests, spreads and thrives and how Canadian institutions, law enforcement and individuals are dealing with it. 

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Samantha Craggs
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Samantha Craggs is a CBC News reporter based in Hamilton, Ont. She has a particular interest in politics and social justice stories, and tweets live from Hamilton city hall. Follow her on Twitter at @SamCraggsCBC, or email her at samantha.craggs@cbc.ca
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