Thursday 9 January 2020

A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight over French immersion

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Methinks Higgy may enjoy reading this spit and chew even more than the one about Cardy and Austin N'esy Pas? 



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Thursday, 9 January 2020

A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight
over French immersion




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Methinks we all missed Dominic Cardy and his buddy Kelly Lamrock Their lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for a jolly circus in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-new-brunswick-debate-cardy-higgs-austin-1.5419730

A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight over French immersion

Media report, People's Alliance set off firestorm over fate of second-language education program


Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jan 08, 2020 5:45 PM AT



Education Minister Dominic Cardy told CBC News the province is not considering scrapping French immersion. Instead, he said they're designing alternatives to the existing program (CBC)

Everything Dominic Cardy said this week he has said before.

That the provincial government is concerned about poor achievement rates among French immersion students. That the province will look at other ways to teach French to anglophone students. And that it will pilot some new approaches in a handful of schools this fall.

But the way those comments were interpreted in one media report, and the way People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin saw them as a plan for "scrapping" immersion, set off a storm.

"I've read what both gentlemen have to say, what Mr. Cardy had to say and what Mr. Austin had to say, and they're not congruent," said Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers. "They're two different stories, so I think it's very important for Premier Higgs to tell us who is correct."
It's a vivid reminder of the complexity and emotion at the heart of the immersion debate. Here's what you need to know about that debate.

Higgs is fixated on fixing immersion

Whenever he's asked about bilingualism, Premier Blaine Higgs focuses not on how it affects francophones but on how the immersion program must be fixed so that more anglophones can compete for jobs designated as bilingual.

Higgs has a complicated history with language issues.


Premier Blaine Higgs is bent on making changes to the French immersion system. (CBC)

Liberals paint him as hostile to bilingualism because of his involvement three decades ago with the Confederation of Regions party, but the premier said when he first ran as a PC in 2010 that his views had changed. His four daughters were in French immersion.

Higgs is an engineer; his approach in government is to identify problems and fix them. He wants more immersion grads to be fluent in French, and that's the prism through which he sees the issue.

The numbers aren't great, but they may not be that bad, either

The most-frequently quoted figure about immersion is from a report by Auditor-General Kim MacPherson last year, which said only 10 per cent of the students who started immersion in 2005 graduated with advanced French or better. Cardy mentions it often.

But MacPherson's audit pointed out that 75 per cent of the 2005 cohort transferred out of the program before graduating. It's common for many immersion students to drop it when they reach high school, where fewer courses in French are available.

Of those who followed it all the way through Grade 12, 40 per cent had advanced or higher levels of French, MacPherson reported.
 

Cardy said he's not thrilled with the recent performance scores highlighted in an auditor general's report last year. (Photofusion/Shutterstock)

"Forty per cent is still nothing to be thrilled about," Cardy said Wednesday, though he added his department is working on offering more elective courses to immersion students to keep them in the program through Grade 12.

New Brunswick Teachers' Association president Rick Cuming said any changes "have to be based on the research we have," and should be gradual, as Cardy has promised.

Cardy's deputy minister knows this issue from the other side


Last year George Daley, then the president of the NBTA, warned against another change to French immersion "because it does create more upheaval in the system," which has seen several major changes already in the last decade.

Daley's now in a position to make that argument directly to Cardy: last fall, after leaving the top NBTA position, Higgs hired him as deputy minister of education for the anglophone school system.


 
Provincial affairs reporter Jacques Poitras explains how everything Dominic Cardy said this week about French immersion he has said before and sheds light on how Kris Austin's comments were interpreted as a plan to "scrap" immersion. 2:00

Cuming said he was glad to see Cardy promise this week that any change will be gradual.

Scrapping immersion is not inevitable, Cardy says


Cardy's own cabinet colleague, Finance Minister Ernie Steeves, suggested last year that it would be unthinkable to get rid of immersion.

"New Brunswick is a bilingual province and we will have a French immersion system," he said after Alliance Leader Kris Austin called for it to be eliminated.

Information Morning - Moncton
Minister says French immersion is not going to be cancelled
 
Education Minister Dominic Cardy says media reports that suggested French immersion programs were going to be scrapped were misleading. 8:39

Cardy said again this week that he'll stick with immersion if there's no alternative.

"If we can find a program that will give us better results for second-language training in the province, I can't imagine any New Brunswicker would object to that," he said.

"And if we can't and the programs we have are the best we can possibly get, I would have no problem saying we can keep them."

The Liberals tried this before


The Liberal government of Shawn Graham launched an overhaul of French second-language programs in 2008 under then-Education Minister Kelly Lamrock, who is a friend of Cardy and who has advised the PC government.

Lamrock first tried to create a universal French program starting in Grade 5, with students able to choose immersion the following year.


Former education minister Kelly Lamrock was one of the recent ministers to overhaul the program. (CBC)

But in the face of protests and a court challenge, the Liberals established a Grade 3 entry point for immersion instead.

The PCs opposed the change at the time and launched a public consultation when they took office in 2010. It recommended a move back to Grade 1, but the Tories didn't implement it.
Meanwhile, the Liberals also reversed their stance under Brian Gallant's leadership, and restored the Grade 1 entry point in 2017.

At the same time, the PCs abandoned their support for Grade 1 and came out against Gallant's changes, arguing that it was happening too fast and there hadn't been enough time to measure if Grade 3 was working.

Streaming is still an issue


The Liberal rationale for overhauling immersion a decade ago focused on what is known as streaming.

The idea is that immersion creates two tracks of students, those with higher aptitudes who enter and remain in immersion, and those with learning challenges who don't enter the program or who leave it early.

It leads to non-immersion classrooms with higher percentages of students with difficulties, which teachers say can make teaching and learning more difficult.


Critics of the current French immersion system say it creates streaming effects in schools. (iStock)

The Liberal reform of a decade ago was meant to give all students an equal shot at acquiring a solid base of literacy skills before they took on a second language.

Cuming says streaming remains a concern that must be addressed — and must be reconciled with immersion.

"Any re-envisaged model has to also address issues of classroom composition and making sure that the equitable supports are there for students and teachers," he said.

Austin adds to the pressure


Also driving the issue is Austin, who calls French immersion "clearly a failed program," citing the same 10 per cent success rate as Cardy.

The People's Alliance leader says his party supports "some level of second-language proficiency" for all students.

Lowering the proficiency requirement for bilingual government jobs at the same time would then allow all graduates to compete for those positions, he said Wednesday.


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin has described French immersion as 'clearly a failed program.' (James West/Canadian Press)

The PC minority government relies on Austin's three-member caucus for support on confidence votes, and last month Higgs called the Alliance leader "very thoughtful and rational." Austin has repeatedly touted his influence over PC decisions.

But Cardy was irritated this week when Austin appeared to take credit for a "scrapping" of immersion that isn't happening, at least not yet. He called it divisive and unfortunate.

Austin said he was merely reacting to "media sources" reporting that changes were on the way. "My reaction to that was positive."

Cardy said he's committed to "make sure we can build an actual bilingual province by having a world class education system that at the very least teaches us the two languages that are the official languages of our provinces."

It's just a question of how.


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David Raymond Amos
Methinks we all missed Cardy His lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for a jolly circus N'esy Pas? 








David Raymond Amos
For the record I emailed Cardy last night just like he suggested we do on the radio yesterday. I have received no response thus far. Surprise Surprise Surprise 











Paul Bolton
Some things are not useful to know. That line is changing all the time. French is important to many because of descendants, history, pride,etc. But it isn't needed in North America and most of the world. The question has to turn to...can a bankrupt province afford it and at what level?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Paul Bolton: NOPE

Kyle Woodman
Reply to @Paul Bolton: we aren't a bankrupt province. That is hyperbole.
















David Raymond Amos
Methinks Its wonderful to see folks are so Happy Happy Happy these days N'esy Pas? 














Les Cooper
Get rid of it! Waste of money


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Les Cooper: I agree 
 

















Ian Scott
There is some truth to the drop out rate in high school.both of our kids changed back to English stream in grade 11 as university science looked very difficult without the “science math language “ and books being more familiar. First year at universities particularly in Ontario and Nova Scotia are not easy for most even the bright ones.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Ian Scott: Whose fault is that?

















Guy Richard
Bilingualism is nothing more than a government French make work project.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Guy Richard: YUP


















Mack Leigh
It is not nor should it be up to the Majority in NB to pay for or prop up one groups minority language and culture.. Time for true democracy. Time to put an end to the dictatorship that is Forced Officially Bilingualism.


Marguerite Deschamp
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Beware of the tyranny of the majority.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks we should beware of censors as well N'esy Pas? 


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should admit that I am a man of my word Obviously I came back at quitting time to see how much went "Poof" N'esy Pas?  
















 

David Stairs
why not put this into real perspective...over 90% of students do not reach a working level in French speech...can you imagine if that was math or any other subject...and yet after 51 years of flogging this useless horse,we continue down the same path not for common sense, but for political gain....enough....you cannot legislate culture and language..


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Stairs: they most probably would fail math as well


Mack Leigh 
Reply to @David Stairs: Wonder exactly how many Francophones would pass the testing to prove that they are " working level " in French as well ? I suspect that if the same testing was given to Francophones many would fail.


David Raymond Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should do the math on your comments N'esy Pas? 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Need I say BINGO?














David Raymond Amos 
For the public record Dominic Cardy has not returned my calls or answered my emails since i ran against his political party in the fall of 2018. With any luck at all he will not be a cabinet minister after another election next fall


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I would vote for you before I would vote for him.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: What if Cardy, Gauvin and Higgy were willing to share their Butter Tarts with you and all the other SANB dudes?


Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Desperation for desperate people ! Like for whom you voted last election !


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your wannabe lady friend missed you N'esy Pas? 
 














David Raymond Amos 
Methinks Cardy, Austin, Higgy, Vickers and everybody else knows that the docket of Federal Court in Fat Fred City contains the proof that Brad Green the Conservative Attorney General of New Brunswick answered my concerns about public corruption in 2004 after I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament and in 2015 Serge Rouselle the liberal Attorney General answered my lawsuit in Federal Court after I ran in the election of the 42nd Parliament Furthermore nobody can deny that I ran in two more elections since then while everybody laughed at me N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Laugh they did!


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Now I am


Lou Bell
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: And what were your total votes from all those elections ? Did your total reach one hundred ?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Whereas your political heroes know the tally as well as I methinks you should ask them because you would not believe me anyway N'esy Pas? 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nighty Night I hope to be back by closing time tomorrow evening. In the "Mean" Time please give Cardy and your gal pal Lourdes a little hell for me will ya? Methinks Rob Moore has told his cohort Higgy why I sometimes wear my old buddy Tom Kelley's black watch kilt when I am campaigning for public office. Trust that the ghost of that 48th Highlander and his grandchildren will giggle when I say that the dirty deeds are best done at night but you don't have the first clue N'esy Pas?

















Lewis Taylor
I know that many haters will try to make this about francophones but it has nothing to do with them whatsoever. It is about options in the anglophone education system.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Cry me a river 
















Tanya Whitney
I am an anglophone who is pro-duality and a Francophile, and have been a French teacher, a principal of immersion schools, and parent of children who entered immersion early and late. However, I have seen the streaming effects of immersion and I believe the best solution that has been advised for many years as Lamrock suggests, is to create a universal French language program (robust French instruction offered daily for 60 mins+) as they do in many European jurisdictions to allow our children to be equipped well as residents of a bilingual province. We would be putting ALL of our children ahead if we offered them the gift of a second language. This would be an inclusive and effective practice.


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Tanya Whitney: The Europeans sure know how to do it



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: So you say but they certainly needed our assistance in a couple of World Wars N'esy Pas?




 












Matt Steele
French immersion and bilingualism is pretty much a total waste of time and money at this point as electronic translation technology will do the job for us ; and translation technology is getting better , and more advanced everyday .Yet , poor little N.B. , the poorest province in N.B. , still pursues bilingualism as more people and businesses leave , and no one wants to come here . There is a reason why N.B. is the ONLY officially bilingual province in all of Canada . Just another FAILED social experiment ; yet the province still pursues it .


Stephen White 
Reply to @Matt Steele:
Well said.


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Matt Steele: Grandma said that you didn't have to learn French. I guess grandma was wrong. That is the failed experiment. You failed because you listened to grandma. Blame grandma!


David Raymond Amos 
Content disabled  
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: My grandma didn't speak French and she got by just fine in New Brunswick much to your chagrin N'esy Pas?
















Fred Dee
There should be ONE education system where Everyone is taught BOTH languages With this, everyone would be EQUAL WRT employment within PNB!!!

This would remove the linguistic foolishness that is going on in our province WTR jobs!! It would take a generation... but then it would be done!! The ned for DUALITY would be gone!! The costs would DROP!!!!!!


Ben Haroldson 
Reply to @Fred Dee: Excellent, right on.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Fred Dee: Dream on


















Matt Steele
Anyone with any knowledge about the N.B. Education system knows that french immersion does not work , and has damaged the N.B. Education system . N.B. rates at almost dead last in Standardized Testing Canada wide ; and now some of the major Canadian Universities are discounting N.B. high school transcripts at around 15% for college admissions because our school academic standards are so low . Welcome to N.B. ; Canada's " ONLY " officially bilingual province , and failed social experiment .....Canada's poorest province


David Raymond Amos   
Reply to @Matt Steele: Try telling us something we don't know

















Ben Haroldson
the more languages one knows the better you will get along with everyone else.


Mack Leigh 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: It should be a matter of " choice " and bilingual where numbers warrant... Otherwise it is nothing more than forced frenchification, forced social engineering and the marginalization of all.....all non-francophones.


Toby Tolly
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
I know 3, and I think you're wrong


Dan Lee
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
it doesnt matter some of theses quys have hated for generations.....10 languages woulnt suit them


Marguerite Deschamps 
Content disabled
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Sure you do!


Cheryl MacLeod 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: It's a nice thought, but the politics of language have left many NBers feeling financially disadvantaged. And, when you hit people in their pocketbook, they coming back swinging. This is the part that has to change.


David Raymond Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you don't know that many even though you claim 
otherwise N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps 
Content disabled
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: It's for me to know and you to find out.


David Raymond Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Why is it I don't feel the need to checkout the integrity of some dude who pretends to be a woman?


Marguerite Deschamps
Content disabled
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: no more than you pretending to be a man.


David Raymond Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I am a man who is very clearly proud of the fact that I am a grandfather as well. Why do you conceal your gender?


Marguerite Deschamps 
Content disabled
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Past your bedtime, grandpa!


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Naw I having too much fun emailing your nonsense to Higgy et al then blogging it and Tweeting about it before I hit the sack

David Raymond Amos 
Content disabled 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: BTW everybody knows the woman you tease all the time is French 
 

Norman Albert
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Hog wash. Are you familiar with the tower of babble.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Norman Albert: Methinks Deschamps certainly is N'esy Pas?

















Marguerite Deschamps
What does the Higgs Bozon and the Crisse d'Hostie know about this issue? At least Cardy is bilingual.


Vaughn O'Connor
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Being bilingual is not a requirement for understanding the issue and to imply otherwise is bigotry.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Vaughn O'Connor: I concur but methinks it does not shock anyone to see that the SANB dude is a fan of the ex NDP leader N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Cardy is no fan of mine if that's what you're getting at.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you have only two fans and only one has a real name N'esy Pas? 
 

Archie Levesque
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Just because you may or may not speak multiple languages does not make you better than other people. This is contrary to what you and Marc spout on here regularly















Toby Tolly
all I know is Jacques was misinformed...... misreported


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Methinks Jacques is all about Jacques N'esy Pas?




















Mack Leigh
Once again Jacques Poitras is seen to be reporting his own " interpretation " of the facts... More than evident that he has an agenda of his own.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Mack Leigh: YUP

Greg Windsor
Reply to @Mack Leigh: ...yes, he is great at twisting the news into something it is not, along with his partner, Forrestall ( I am sure the spelling is wrong) .Both are anti english and very anti Premier Higgs. I am surprised they get away with being so biased. ...I stopped watching them long ago....


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Greg Windsor: a lot less than you're anti-French!


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: How do you explain their actions against me? 
 

Norman Albert
Reply to @Greg Windsor: CBC is MSM with an agenda. I gave up supporting them 4 years ago.


Bill Bill Seabacon 
Reply to @Mack Leigh: "Higgs is an engineer; his approach in government is to identify problems and fix them. He wants more immersion grads to be fluent in French, and that's the prism through which he sees the issue." I had to read this 3 times to understand who was writing this statement. I though it had to be a quote. Then, i asked myself, "oh, is it an op-ed?" Nope. This is a very weird write up. Not sure why a CBC report comes off like this.
















Paul Bourgoin
The more NB changes the more it stays alike!
Poor, Poor, New Brunswick what others can do, New Brunswick Politics Can't!!
I wonder why? United we stand and divided we shall fall.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Methinks Cardy prefers that you say plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose N'esy Pas?

















Kyle Woodman
Maybe Kelly Lamrock is the problem.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Methinks many liberals would agree that there is no maybe about it Anyone can Google 3 words to find that lawyer's mark on a note to me N'esy Pas?

Cardy Butter Tarts

Kyle Woodman
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: isnt lamrock on team higgs now. The man is a charlatan.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: He most definitely is That is why he signed the Butter Tart note


Kyle Woodman
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I missed the Butter Tart thing. Too busy working. What was that all about anyways?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Google Cardy Butter Tarts


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Your first hit should be my blog dated Friday, 12 January 2018 Scroll down a bit and look at the signatures on the the note Guess who "K" is.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: BTW I was not joking about your name the other day

My FBI Special Agent who came to Canada with me in 2005 (FBI has a different meaning among my Clan) was a Yankee friend named David Woodman He is now deceased but I still have his truck and camper.


Lou Bell
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Do more people read it than the 25 who sign their names on your nomination papers , and then don't even vote for you ? 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks Cardy don't care much for your opinions either because you won't put Butter Tarts on the menu in the DECH N'esy Pas Lourdes? 

















Mac Isaac
As long as there are still people who are vocally anti-bilingualism/anti-French and have a political party that espouses these same feelings New Brunswick will continue being divided. As well, there remains those who see a vast French conspiracy to make this province unilingual French and/or are vehemently against such places, i.e. the province of Quebec; ignoring the fact that all other provinces are officially unilingual English. Honestly, I don't see any solution because those of us who see great value and merit in being bilingual are countered by another group arguing against all things French or remotely bilingual. Even the argument that we can agree to disagree will never earn any support...lines are too strongly drawn. It's really sad...Premiers Robichaud and Hatfield wouldn't be happy to see what has become of their dream of a province which respected both linguistic groups.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Mac Isaac: If you truly mean what you say then why not use a real name?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Mac Isaac: I must say you and Cardy appear to be cut from the same cloth
















Donald Gallant
I don’t think the Immersion programs are doing enough.

NB needs to do more and do them differently.

Summer camps . Exchange programs. Language cafe’s.

We must interact better.


Greg Windsor
Reply to @Donald Gallant: ....dear gawd, quit wasting my money !!!!!


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Greg Windsor: Methinks you should relax and enjoy the circus You already paid your bits to see it just like the rest of us did N'esy Pas?





















Errol Willis
I can't believe we are doing this AGAIN!!!

Does any other province put as much time, effort, and money into attaining a second language? We are the poorest province in the country and this is what we choose to spend millions on AGAIN???

This truly is an example of Einstein's definition of insanity


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Errol Willis: Its par for the course in Fat Fred City




















Allan J Whitney
Make sure nobody uses their handbrain which translates voice into a number of other languages.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Allan J Whitney: Methinks not all of us are lucky enough to afford such toys Furthermore everybody around the Bay of Fundy and up north understands Chiac N'esy Pas?


















Michael Durant
Catherine the Great of Russia was a German who after marrying the Russian leader rose early in the morn to study and become fluent in the Russian language from those commoners who stoked the palace fires. Not a teacher or school room in sight.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Michael durant: In the past I preferred to learn the lingo from the ladies i dated. 
 

Donald Bowser
Reply to @Michael durant: Not true she had tutors and spent years learning it. I learned Russian in 6 months in full immersion but with university teachers. Self-teaching can be done but it isn't effective and you make a lot of mistakes.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Donald Bowser: Oh My My Aren't you that great "I am" who claims to understand ethics






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Wednesday, 8 January 2020


FAKE NEWS!!!!!



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-new-brunswick-dominic-cardy-1.5418422


Cardy denies report suggesting New Brunswick is scrapping French immersion program

Education minister also denies secret talks with People’s Alliance

Colin McPhail · CBC News ·

Education Minister Dominic Cardy has denied a report the New Brunswick government is considering abandoning the provincial French immersion program.

A headline published Tuesday evening on the website of the Telegraph-Journal, the provincial newspaper, stated, "Province plans to scrap French immersion program." When asked to clarify, Cardy repudiated the report.

"The headline saying we're scrapping French immersion is simply, straight up inaccurate," Cardy told CBC News.

The minister said, however, the government is developing a pilot project to test alternative approaches to French second language training in the province. The project will be rolled out in a dozen anglophone schools in September 2020.

Cardy said the pilot is in the early design stages but didn't offer further information, saying he would share those details when ready.
Cardy said his government has publicly discussed changes to the French immersion program, among many other reforms, in the green paper on education that was published last fall.

"Nothing beyond that is in the works right now," he said.

Denies secret talks with People's Alliance

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin was quoted in the Telegraph-Journal article as saying he had been speaking with Cardy and Premier Blaine Higgs "for the past year" about a plan to do away with the program, adding he was "thrilled" at the prospect.

Cardy said Austin's comments were "inaccurate" and "irresponsible."


People’s Alliance Leader Kris Austin told the Telegraph-Journal he has been discussing the idea of scrapping the French immersion program with Cardy and Higgs for the past year. Cardy denied the statement. (CBC) 

"To say there's some plan which hasn't been shared with the public to get rid of French immersion is simply untrue," Cardy said.

"There are certainly going to be absolutely no secret closed-door decisions or discussions with people in other parties on issues as important as this."

Neither Austin nor an Alliance spokesperson responded to a request for comment Tuesday night.
The Progressive Conservative government has been critical of the existing program and its poor performance levels.

Figures in a January 2019 auditor general's report show that of 1,624 students who began French immersion in 2004, only 10 per cent finished Grade 12 with an "advanced" or better level of French.


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---------- Original message ----------
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 06:14:18 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Kris Austin I wonder if your buddy
Dominic Cardy's ears were burning tonight as I reminded the folks of
his lust for Butter Tarts
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Thursday, 9 January 2020

A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight
over French immersion

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks we all missed Dominic Cardy and his buddy Kelly Lamrock Their
lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for a jolly circus in Fat Fred City
N'esy Pas?
 

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A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight
over French immersion

Media report, People's Alliance set off firestorm over fate of
second-language education program

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jan 08, 2020 5:45 PM AT

 69 Comments



David Raymond Amos
Methinks we all missed Cardy His lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for
a jolly circus N'esy Pas?






David Raymond Amos
For the public record Dominic Cardy has not returned my calls or
answered my emails since i ran against his political party in the fall
of 2018. With any luck at all he will not be a cabinet minister after
another election next fall

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I would vote for you before I would vote for him.

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: What if Cardy, Gauvin and Higgy were
willing to share their Butter Tarts with you and all the other SANB
dudes?

Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Desperation for desperate people !
Like for whom you voted last election !

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your wannabe lady friend missed you N'esy Pas?









David Raymond Amos
Methinks Cardy, Austin, Higgy, Vickers and everybody else knows that
the docket of Federal Court in Fat Fred City contains the proof that
Brad Green the Conservative Attorney General of New Brunswick answered
my concerns about public corruption in 2004 after I ran in the
election of the 38th Parliament and in 2015 Serge Rouselle the liberal
Attorney General answered my lawsuit in Federal Court after I ran in
the election of the 42nd Parliament Furthermore nobody can deny that I
ran in two more elections since then while everybody laughed at me
N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Laugh they did!

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Now I am

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: And what were your total votes from all
those elections ? Did your total reach one hundred ?

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Whereas your political heroes know the tally as
well as I methinks you should ask them because you would not believe
me anyway N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nighty Night I hope to be back by
closing time tomorrow evening. In the "Mean" Time please give Cardy
and your gal pal Lourdes a little hell for me will ya? Methinks Rob
Moore has told his cohort Higgy why I sometimes wear my old buddy Tom
Kelley's black watch kilt when I am campaigning for public office.
Trust that the ghost of that 48th Highlander and his grandchildren
will giggle when I say that the dirty deeds are best done at night but
you don't have the first clue N'esy Pas?










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