Friday 17 January 2020

More transparency needed at NB Power to avoid Joi Scientific repeat, says political panel

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Replying to and 49 others
Methinks Minister Mikey and all the other dudes he is talking to know NB Power gives an annual report to the Lt Governor every year Anyone can read it N'esy Pas? 



https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/more-transparency-needed-at-nb-power-to.html








https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-political-panel-1.5430129




More transparency needed at NB Power to avoid Joi Scientific repeat, says political panel

Energy minister says balance needs to be struck between transparency and operational effectiveness


CBC News · Posted: Jan 16, 2020 7:35 PM AT




NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas posed with Joi Scientific executives Robert Koeneman and Traver Kennedy on a beach in Cape Canaveral, Florida. The utility has a multi-million-dollar licensing agreement with Joi Scientific. (Joi Scientific)

Listen to the full CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast by downloading from the CBC Podcast page or subscribing to the podcast in iTunes.

Improving transparency at NB Power was one of the highlights of this week's political panel, which included a wide ranging discussion on the crown corporation.

This comes after some controversial moves by the public utility, including the decision to invest in Joi Scientific.


The corporation poured $6.5 million into the Florida-based company, which claimed it had the technology to generate hydrogen gas from seawater to generate electricity on demand.

But it turned out the company hadn't perfected the technology on a large scale, putting the viability of the project in doubt.
NB Power does have to report some of the projects it funds to the Energy and Utilities board, but only if it exceeds a $50 million threshold.

Green Party leader David Coon said he doesn't think NB Power has enough oversight to avoid another Joi Scientific fiasco.

"What we've got to do is improve and strengthen the Electricity Act that guides NB Power and improve and strengthen the Energy Utility Support Act that guides the EUB," said Coon

Energy Minister Mike Holland said the $50 million threshold needs to be addressed to make the public utility more accountable, but warns that lowering it too far could have negative consequences.




The Political Panel from CBC News New Brunswick
Jan. 16: Energy minister wants more oversight of NB Power
Natural Resources and Energy Minister Mike Holland says he'd would like to see more oversight of NB Power, which has come under criticism for investing millions in an unproven technology. On the Political Panel this week, Holland, Liberal MLA Benoît Bourque, Green Party Leader and MLA David Coon and People's Alliance MLA Rick DeSaulniers debate a variety of issues related to NB Power. 35:19


"If we put them down to saying that they couldn't spend any more than $2 million without EUB approval, that would be a set of handcuffs that would make it very difficult," said Holland.

But Holland said he'd like borrow a private sector tactic to make NB Power more transparent, holding annual general meetings.

"So I'm trying to look at it, almost from like a private sector component, where the utility is accountable to the shareholder, with some form of a presentation similar to that."

Liberal MLA Benoit Bourque said there needs to be a higher degree of accountability and transparency, but even that won't completely erase the possibility of another Joi Scientific-style controversy.

"There's always an element of risk ...  there is never a 100 per cent guarantee when it comes to these things," said Bourque.







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David Raymond Amos
Methinks a lot of folks should thank my friend Roger Richard After all Mikey Holland and his political cohorts cannot deny that Francis Tatoutchoup is just one of the expert witnesses that Roger went to a great deal of effort and expense to bring before the EUB and speak in defense of our interests N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-meters-1.5430140
















David Raymond Amos
Methinks there was some very interesting things missing from this news item about NB Power N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-catch-22-1.5428720








David Raymond Amos 
Methinks folks who truly care should go to the EUB hearings and witness the circus for themselves I have never seen any of these big talkers attend any since I began intervening i 2017 Perhaps somebody should ask them how they have come to know so much N'esy Pas? 















David Raymond Amos
"Energy Minister Mike Holland said the $50 million threshold needs to be addressed to make the public utility more accountable, but warns that lowering it too far could have negative consequences."

Yea Right and who is gonna hold the EUB and KPMG accountable? 



Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: The least you think he could do was get them a new picture. Same old lampshade boys.


David Raymond Amos   
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I have argued these politicians many times over the years while everybody laughed at me. Now its my turn to laugh 




















Lou Bell
Aladdin and his Wonderful Lamp !


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your beloved Minister Mikey Holland just got caught with his pants down N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Lou Bell: BTW Methinks every but you knows that a person needs 100 signatures to run in a federal election Furthermore Minister Mikey and his boss Higgy know that I ran where they live (Fundy Royal) 3 times thus far and their lawyer budd Rob Moore and all the other politcians who live in Fundy Royal and Fredericton certainly know I sued the Queen long before Holland seized the nomination from Brian Keirstead a dude who wanted to nominated to run against me in 2004 instead of Rob Moore N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/albert-pc-party-holland-keirstead-1.4624118

























Joe Rootliek
Does NB Power have the mandate to put millions in to energy projects that may or may not pan out?

Or do they just have the mandate to deliver electricity, make profit perhaps ( or break even to keep power bills low as in the 80s), and maintain their system.

What direction does the government want it to be in? I thought they were exposed to deliver power, keep bills as low as possible, not to reinvent the wheel. The latter is for private organizations.



David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Better yet whats Holland's mandate?

 
Joe Rootliek
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: If I was energy minister, I would want my utility to just provide power to its citizens in a safe manner, ensure reliability ( That one seems to be ok so far), pay debt but try to keep the power bill as low as possible to compete vs other electric rates in other provinces for attracting businesses.

A utility, publicly owned by NB Taxpayers, I personally do not believe they should be in the science lab business. Leave that to the private companies.



David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: You have the right to intervene at the EUB and try to hold NB Power accountable for their rate increases etc.


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: It would be nice if they could tour the province. Cannot afford to travel that far, I am on social assistance.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: I live off my old pension yet I Intervene


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: You live near Freddy?


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Why is all this stuff down south, all of the time.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Plus you can email the board and have your opinions recorded in the public record like the Green Party people often do


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: That is nice to know. Thanks.


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: You make a good point there. Not many people realize they can do that.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: I sitting outside of Fat Fred City right now preparing some documents for more litigation against the Crown Federal Court One lawsuit involves NB Power


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: That is allot of work. Good luck, long coffee nights no doubt.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: One cup a day tis all


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Well, long as you make it off of peak hours, NB Power will not charge you with the smart meter.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Google Fundy Royal Debate


Joe Rootliek
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Yes impressive, how close did you get from getting elected?


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Its not about getting elected Its about exposing public corruption and protecting my family Google your name and mine 


Joe Rootliek
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Yes, protection, fairness is what we all need.


Joe Rootliek 
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Must go now, getting droggy tired.... Till next debate.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Don't surprised if our exchange goes "Poof" overnight 





















Fred Brewer
They are missing the point. You don't need to lower NB Power's discretionary spending limit. You need accountability. If those responsible for the Joi fiasco were immediately fired, it would diminish the chances of this ever happening again.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Cry me a river























 
Roy Kirk
The old NBEPC was far more transparent in its activities. It was morphed into NB Power largely to hide its activities from public scrutiny.

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk: I don't doubt you 















Paul Bourgoin
Why not start by cleaning house, they failed!


David Raymond Amos   
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Dream on













 
Paul Bourgoin
Am I the only one in New Brunswick who can't figure out where the PROFIT money from our natural resources goes? Not in our banks, not in our pockets not on augmenting the health services, schooling quality to name a few but one thing is certain is the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and why? A Commission should be set in place to find out where the taxation money goes, who pays, who doesn't pay, who are the first in line for subsidies and inform the Public as to where the money goes?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Cry me a river As a former border guard you should know your job was hooked at the with the taxman while I was suing Yankee Treasury Agents for NOT collecting taxes 


















 
David Peters
"...where the utility is accountable to the shareholder, with some form of a presentation similar to that.""

Why hasn't that been done all along? With the internet like it is, the ratepayer/taxpayer/shareholder could know what's going on, financially, within the monopoly, on a quarterly basis.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Methinks and all the other dudes he is talking to know NB Power gives an annual report to the Lt Governor every year Anyone can read it N'esy Pas? 

















 
Cam Randal
As long as Gaëtan Thomas is at the helm of NB Power, and is not held accountable for the Joi Scientific fiasco, then David Coon is absolutely right to request additional oversight on the actions of NB Power.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Cam Randal: Methinks everybody knows that the Green Party leader is playing political games just like all the rest are N'esy Pas? 


















 
Terry Tibbs
So, with the Greens, the Liberals, and the Conservatives, "on board" with restricting these folks, what seems to be "the hold up"?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Go Figure 




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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 23:52:16 -0400
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-political-panel-1.5430129


More transparency needed at NB Power to avoid Joi Scientific repeat,
says political panel

Energy minister says balance needs to be struck between transparency
and operational effectiveness
CBC News · Posted: Jan 16, 2020 7:35 PM AT



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-catch-22-1.5428720


Expert says true smart meter value won't emerge until after they're approved

Day three of rate hearings concluded Wednesday
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jan 15, 2020 10:04 PM AT |



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-meters-1.5430140


NB Power rate used to justify smart meters 'low,' says expert

Expert calculated 1 per cent swing worth $7M
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jan 17, 2020 6:00 AM AT


 28 Comments


David Raymond Amos
Methinks a lot of folks should thank my friend Roger Richard After all
Mikey Holland and his political cohorts cannot deny that Francis
Tatoutchoup is just one of the expert witnesses that Roger went to a
great deal of effort and expense to bring before the EUB and speak in
defense of our interests N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-meters-1.5430140



David Raymond Amos
Methinks there was some very interesting things missing from this news
item about NB Power N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-catch-22-1.5428720



On 1/15/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=2464308071878322421#editor/target=post;postID=6536333291414786539;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=1;src=link
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> Tuesday, 14 January 2020
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> Interveners dubious over NB Power's revamped smart meter plan as EUB
> hearings begin
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> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
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> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
> Methinks its wonderful to see the lawyers in our employ so Happy Happy
> Happy N'esy Pas?
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> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/interveners-dubious-over-nb-powers.html
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>  #nbpoli #cdnpoli
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearings-1.5427258
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> EUB lawyers clash with NB Power over apparent rosy assumptions for smart
> meters
> Lawyers spar over business case calculations on Day 2 of EUB hearings
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> Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jan 15, 2020 7:00 AM AT
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> David Raymond Amos
> Methinks Higgy and Minister Mikey must understand why I am hollering
> BINGO again N'esy Pas?
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> David Raymond Amos
> Content disabled
> Methinks its wonderful to see the lawyers in our employ so Happy Happy
> Happy N'esy Pas?
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> Aaron Allison
> We need the AG to do a Forensic Audit into NB Power
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Aaron Allison: I have been suggesting that for years
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> Emilien Forest
> NB Power executives have a history of frivolous spending. If what they
> propose works out they receive a huge bonus, if not their bonus is not
> as big. So it it a win-win situation for them. It is just another
> means of fattening their pocket books.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Emilien Forest: Methinks folks should wonder if the NB Power
> executives consider the history of our comments frivolous N'esy Pas?
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> For instance what article did this lady have in front of her on Monday
> and how many news stories was she prepared to refer to
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> NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD
> Matter 452
> IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power 5 Corporation
> for approval and Advanced Metering 6 Infrastructure capital project
> Held at the Delta Hotel Saint John, N.B. on January 13th 2020.
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> CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. BOURQUE:
> Page 141
> Q. - Thank you. Now the other day -- oh, about a month ago -- Saint
> John utilities had a lady on the radio in Fredericton. She was saying
> that they didn’t need smart meters to have a smart grid. Is -- have
> you worked with Saint John utility to see what they were talking
> about?
> MS. CLARK: Yes. I actually have the article in front of me and I think
> there is a really good quote from the article that says some smart
> grid technologies can be deployed independently of AMI. Others benefit
> when AMI is also in place. Finally there are some aspect of the smart
> grid that only can be achieved by the adoption of AMI. So AMI is one
> component of the smart grid.
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> Greg Miller
> Again I ask, why is NB Power so insistent on installing these meters?
> Have they already bought them? Let's make these STUDY ASSUMPTIONS
> public. I'd love to analyze them myself having a background in
> research and evaluation and with colleagues across Canada who love to
> challenge.
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> Fred Brewer
> Reply to @Greg Miller: Most of the information is made public. you
> will find it at the EUB website although it is not very user friendly.
> http://www.nbeub.ca/
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Greg Miller: Trust that your questions have been answered by
> me many times Its not my fault you didn't and or couldn't read my
> words
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> Shawn Tabor
> Sad times, NB the place to be, if they go ahead on this one. 5-7
> billion dollar dept. Just thinking,,,, If this is again so Profitable,
> Why, Why so much dept. Not sure but is This Business. Really folks,
> We, Us have to wake up.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Shawn Tabor: I explained this to you long ago correct?
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> John Haigh
> Would like to know the cost to taxpayers for these hearings.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @John Haigh: I know for fact my friend Roger Richard has
> spent way too much money dealing with NB Power and their cohorts on
> behalf of people who could care less.
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> Ben Haroldson
> Reply to @David Raymond Amos: What makes you think they/we care less,
> and what is your suggestion about what to do?
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Go to the hearing and show some support for
> Roger's efforts on your behalf
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Deja Vu 4 U
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-1.5381596
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> Johnny Jakobs
> Statistical gymnastics bouncing across the room. Somewhere in the
> middle lies the truth. Given NB Power's history, I side with the EUB.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: I don't trust any of them and never did.
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> Richard Dunn
> NB Power continues to show lack of leadership at the highest level.
> Unfortunately we cannot trust their numbers, or many of their claims.
> It is time for a complete leadership change at NB Power, including the
> Board of Directors.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Richard Dunn: FYI I took on Mulroney's old buddy Burney the
> Chair of the board of Directors and NB Power's Yankee lawyers in 2006
> and everybody laughed at me. Methinks its now my turn to laugh N'esy
> Pas?
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> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
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> I say
> Methinks Higgy and Minister Mikey must understand why I holler BINGO
> so much lately N'esy Pas?
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> Higgy's fan says Isn’t that a Daisy???
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> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/interveners-dubious-over-nb-powers.html
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>  #nbpoli #cdnpoli
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/higgs-transmission-lines-atlantic-premiers-1.5425440
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>  Higgs says Atlantic premiers like plan for more transmission capacity
> in province
> Proposal could help Maritimes cut reliance on fossil fuels
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> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jan 13, 2020 6:12 PM AT
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> David Raymond Amos
> Content disabled
> Surprise Surprise Surprise
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> David Raymond Amos
> Methinks I need to holler BINGO out of the gate again N'esy Pas?
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> Ben Haroldson
> Look at his eyes, he's been smoking pot.
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> Omer Samson
> I like that picture of Mr. Higgs. I wonder what he's thinking.
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> Roland Stewart
> Reply to @Omer Samson: Looks like he had a rough weekend lol.
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> Colin Seeley
> can’t remember ever looking at a bad photo of Gallant. Speaks volumes about
> JP.
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> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @Colin Seeley: What you see is what you get.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks many folks would enjoy a
> photo of you N'esy Pas?
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> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @David Raymond Amos: no point doing that. We've seen yours
> and I'm already beaten.
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> Colin Seeley
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
> Isn’t that a Daisy.
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> Guy Richard
> Quebec can't be trusted, there is a hidden agenda here somewhere.
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> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @Guy Richard: You can't trust too many people in this world
> and Quebec is no better or worse. Alberta, Newfoundland, New Brunswick
> as well as all other provinces are all the same, more particularly
> when there is money involved.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: You should know
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> Fred Brewer
> Reply to @Guy Richard: And as predicted, here come the conspiracy theories.
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> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @Guy Richard:
> Personally I *think* the deal (with an undersea cable) from Labrador
> *might* be better?
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> Joe Rootliek
>  Good that Quebec has lots of power. Thing is, they replace NB Power
> Generation- Generation that really pays down the 4.3 or more billion
> dollar debt.
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> When afterwards, you only rely on Mactaquac, to pay down huge debt,
> and Grand falls, and the transmission tarrifs alone, reduce load on
> Nuclear at times due to Quebec pushing cheap power through, I leave
> this question to HIggs- How are you going to pay down that huge Debt?
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> Stephen Blunston
> selling to the US they should be paying fees tarifis and taxes , oh as
> well as Trudeaus useless carbon tax , it is not right to sell power
> cheaper to US than NB'ers and we have to pay all the upkeep and pay to
> have the places cleaned up after
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> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
> Methinks everybody knows that Minister Mikey or his boss Higgy can
> stop the "Not So Smart" Meter nonsense with a simple phone call or a
> stroke of a pen if need be N'esy Pas?
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/interveners-dubious-over-nb-powers.html
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>  #nbpoli #cdnpoli
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearings-1.5425284
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> Interveners dubious over NB Power's revamped smart meter plan as EUB
> hearings begin
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> Utility comes back in front of regulatory board claiming greater savings
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> Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Jan 13, 2020 4:53 PM AT
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> David Raymond Amos
> Surprise Surprise Surprise
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> David Raymond Amos
> Methinks Higgy and Minister Mikey must understand why I holler BINGO
> so much lately N'esy Pas?
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> Brad Little
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> Wow. Looking at this comment board, the "silent majority" is REALLY SILENT
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> David Raymond Amos
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> Reply to @Brad Little: Not really it just that many comments are blocked
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> Fred Brewer
> "This time, however, NB Power claims it has improved the application
> enough so that the "net present value" of benefits from adopting smart
> meters over 15 years will be $31.1 million more than costs." How can
> we trust NB Power's due diligence in this matter after the total
> failure of their due diligence on Joi Magic Beans?
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> Ben Haroldson
> Reply to @Fred Brewer: you don't have to get that complicated to know
> what's up. Kiss.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: The leader of the KISS party Gerald Bourque
> who is now just a private citizen and still smart meter opponent who
> registered to participate in the hearing, asked specifically if the
> units are a fire hazard, based on the recall of 105,000 smart meters
> in Saskatchewan in 2014.
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> Michael Durant
> The levels of electromagnetic frequencies (EMF) given off by these new
> meters are weapon's grade and exceed ( by several magnitudes) safe
> levels of EMF exposure for human health as determined by researchers
> and scientists at the University of Montreal and around the world
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Michael durant: Methinks folks should pay attention to Roger
> Richard's experts who will testify next week before the EUB N'esy Pas?
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> Bob Smith
> Bit surprised they didn't say that for every home owner who agrees to
> smart meter installation, they get shares in JOI Scientific....
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Bob Smith: We already have them
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> David Raymond Amos
> There are no saving to be made by investing more money into a product.
> It does not reduce your power consumption, it does not reduce the cost
> of the energy. All it does is permit NB Power to charge more for what
> they call "Premium Power" at times likely less convenient for the home
> owner. There is technology out there that provide the same services as
> a smart meter but discloses the data only to the home owner so they
> can adjust their usage. (I use one that can report power consumption
> in 1/2 second intervals so I can see the immediate impact of certain
> appliances.) In all reports in the last few years the majority of home
> owners cannot alter their power usage enough to make a significant
> difference on their bills It does let them choose more efficient
> appliances, but that only produces a fractional savings for the owner.
> The only reason NB Power wants smart meters is to provide
> justification to charge the home owner more! period! If NB Power
> thinks they can save money with Smart Meters I would be happy to let
> them subscribe (for a fee) to my data.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Roger Thompson: Well put
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> David Raymond Amos
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> Reply to @Roger Thompson: NB Power Speaking of Data
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> New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
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> Matter 430
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> IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation
> for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year
> commencing April 1, 2019, and other relief as outlined in NB Power’s
> application
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> Held at the Algonquin Hotel, St. Andrews, N.B., on May 11 24th 2019.
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> Page 729
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> MR. RUSSELL: Yes. I would like to add a comment. I totally agree with
> what Mr. Todd has said.
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> The one thing I would like to remind or mention to the Board is that
> we are very concerned about the data, the load research data, that is.
> And it seems the problem might be viewed as greater than what it is
> because there are many jurisdictions that conduct a cost of service
> study and do it on a -- every third year or a fifth year interval. We
> just happen to be ramping this up and doing a cost of service every
> year. So it appears as if we are coming back with no, you know, bad
> data again.
> And while there might be a question about the data and how fresh it
> is, I think it is important to keep in mind that when we do rate
> design, you can look at cost -- the revenue to cost ratios on a
> different interval, you know, a three, five year interval and then set
> your rate design plan for that interval and gradually work your
> classes towards the certain direction that you want to go in.
> So having data that’s a little over two years old, while it is not
> ideal, you know, you would like to have the fresh data, but it’s not
> -- I don’t see it as being too, too grave in terms of what it might do
> for the results. We know that with AMI, yes, it’s going to be a lot
> better if we get to go with AMI. And we are going to need to start
> planning, you know, for the scenario that
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
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> we may have AMI or may not have AMI, and what we might have to do. And
> so it’s going to take a couple -- probably two, three years before we
> get some fresh data.
> So I just want to caution the Board in that while the accuracy of the
> number may not be 100 percent because you don’t have the latest data,
> having two year old data is not that bad, you know, given the
> circumstance you would find yourself in if you compare with other
> jurisdictions.
> MR. TODD: Yes, and I reinforce that because I do do work, cost
> allocation studies across -- in many jurisdictions across Canada, out
> west. Other than jurisdictions where the companies have smart meters
> and therefore have -- you know, that is part of AMI, the precision of
> the New Brunswick Power CCS and the use of the load profile
> information, you are ahead of all the other companies that I am aware
> of, which would be four or five. So I mean, you shouldn’t feel like
> you are falling behind your peers in this jurisdiction.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO
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> David Raymond Amos
> Methinks everybody knows that Minister Mikey or his boss Higgy can
> stop the "Not So Smart" Meter nonsense with a simple phone call or a
> stroke of a pen if need be N'esy Pas?
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> Brian Robertson
> Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
> Probably.
> But as we see here, NB Power's strategy seems to be the long game; and
> just bring it back with the next government.
> If conservation reduces demand, and our population stagnant, their
> revenue will depend on increasing the cost of power through smart
> meter penalties.
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Brian Robertson: They already signed the contracts for "Not
> So Smart" meters Hence they can't back out without penalties.
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> Greg Miller
> Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Then they should pay the penalties and
> someone should pay the price personally at NB Power. Really--are our
> elective officials afraid of NB Power--does NB Power have some hold
> over our elected officials. Time to get some intestinal fortitude
> Government!
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @Greg Miller: Trust that I made certain that Higgy and his
> cohorts knew about this "Not So Smart" Meter nonsense long before the
> last election
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> IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation
> for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year
> commencing April 1, 2018. held at the Delta Hotel, Saint John, New
> Brunswick, on February 9th 2018.
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> Transcript Page 601
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: I was a bit surprised when I heard this morning and
> yesterday that you are entering into a contract at the end of February
> and is that with respect to the purchase of the smart meters?
> MS. CLARK: That's correct.
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So how can you enter into a contract without the firm
> approval of this Board, if we are going to approve or not the AMI? How
> prudent is that?
> MS. CLARK: So we are at the end stages of the contract in terms of
> just the final terms and conditions, but we have been very clear that
> we -- with the vendor -- and they recognize that, because we also have
> Nova Scotia Power, who is part of our consortium, who also needs Board
> approval. So should we not get -- this is conditional on EUB approval.
> So should we not get EUB approval, the contract would not proceed.
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: Now there was discussion yesterday, I think it was with
> Mr. Stoll regarding time of use and time based pricing, and so I went
> through the evidence this morning, and in your main evidence, and I
> think one of the objective of having the AMI going forward to a time
> of use price structure -- rate structure. So am I understanding that
> correctly
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> David Raymond Amos
> Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Continued
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> MS. CLARK: That is correct. And in the evidence, we did answer an
> interrogatory on that and you will see that AMI is an enabler for time
> varying rates in the Energy Smart NB Plan. And we did have time
> varying rates included in our investment rationale. We took it out,
> because we couldn't -- we couldn't pinpoint without more detail as to
> what those time varying rates may be and the benefit of those, so we
> took them out of the investment rationale at this point in time, but
> certainly it's something that we are looking at in the future
> VICE-CHAIRMAN: So the fundamental question here is that the Board
> should heard -- or hear Matter 357 before approving the AMI? So if we
> don't approve time of use, that basically what will happen with your
> AMI, I mean it's -- if we don't approve the time of use, which we are
> going to hear next year, how can we proceed in approving the AMI
> before we look at the rate structure?
> MS. CLARK: As we have talked about in our investment rationale, there
> are a number of other benefits to both the customer and to the utility
> over and above time varying rates that we believe are important for
> the utility and for the movement forward of our Energy Smart New
> Brunswick plan. Many of those benefits accrue to the customer. And
> many of those benefits accrue to the utility and ultimately the
> customer. So even if we were not to move in the direction of time
> varying rates, we believe that the investment rationale supports the
> AMI installation based on the other investment -- or based on the
> other benefits that it provides
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