Province to subsidize travel costs as N.B. shifts to private veterinary service
Province has a year to create private large-animal veterinary service
The province has shared details on how a private large-animal veterinary service could work in New Brunswick after the government announced last week the public model will end.
Pat Finnigan, the minister of agriculture, aquaculture and fisheries, said veterinarians that want to open a private large-animal clinic could receive equipment from the province and help with travel.
“We have equipment that they can set up their own mobile clinic … we will support their mileage and their travel,” Finnigan told MLAs in the legislature on Friday.
It’s unclear what kind of support the province will offer veterinarians that have to travel to farms. Finnigan was not available for an interview.
In Nova Scotia, private veterinarians that travel to serve farmers are compensated for their mileage.
Dr. Trevor Lawson, a large-animal veterinarian in the Truro area, said subsidizing travel is a good place for New Brunswick to start.
Minister shares how private veterinary service could work in N.B.He said in Nova Scotia it’s a way to ensure rural farms have access to services. The cost of travel is paid by the farm and given to the veterinarian.
The program only covers animals with agricultural purposes, such as cattle, and Lawson said horses are excluded.
For New Brunswick, Lawson said he could see areas like Sussex having large-animal clinics in town whose veterinarians would also travel to service surrounding areas.
Regardless of compensation, Lawson said rural areas with fewer farms will always be a challenge. He said that is the case in Nova Scotia and across the country.
“I speak with colleagues in Manitoba and Alberta and, you know, across Canada that is similar realities in those scenarios. The large geography of Canada is one of our greatest benefits, but it's also a significant challenge at times,” said Lawson.
Building a private system
The province has set deadlines to phase out the entire veterinary service program.
First, equine services will end by Dec. 31, 2026, and the rest of the service will finish March 31, 2027. Then laboratory services will change on or before March 31, 2028.
Finance Minister René Legacy told Information Morning Fredericton last week that the veterinary program, which people pay to use, loses the province about $4 million to $6 million a year.
The program is estimated to cost almost $5 million in the 2026-2027 budget.
Legacy said money can now go to building a private service.
Dr.
Trevor Lawson is a large-animal veterinarian at Fundy Veterinarians in
the Truro area of Nova Scotia. He is compensated for the travel it takes
to visit rural farms in the province. (Submitted by Trevor Lawson) Right now, it is unclear how the province will deliver laboratory services. There are also few private large-animal clinics in New Brunswick, though more exist for horses.
Lawson, who grew up on a small farm in New Brunswick, said since the province ran a veterinary service, it has likely turned people away from trying to open their own clinics.
“I think in the past, given that the government was providing this service, it’s probably served somewhat as an impediment to an individual from wishing to do the same work,” he said.
Finnigan echoed that idea.
“We've had calls from people outside saying, ‘We wanted to come to New Brunswick, but we went to Nova Scotia because we do not want to compete,’” said Finnigan.
He said last week that private veterinarians are now calling the province with interest in setting up in New Brunswick.
Dr. Paule-Marie Mather, a veterinarian and an instructor at Oulton College, had dreamed of working on farms in New Brunswick after graduation. Mather said she realized she couldn’t compete with the province’s service since she wasn't paid for the travel time it took to get to farms.
“My joy and my number one, you know, goal was always to be a farm vet. The problem was that I couldn't justify being on the road, you know, for two or three hours and going for one call, which I could not compensate for,” said Mather.
Dr.
Paule-Marie Mather is a veterinarian and an instructor at Oulton
College. Her dream was to work on farms but resorted to a small-animal
practice. (Submitted by Paule-Marie Mather)She said eventually travelling to farms was too costly and she had to give up large-animal care.
Mather said she is upset with the execution of the province’s plan, which leaves farmers questioning whether they’ll have veterinary services in a year's time and no clear plan for the laboratory.
But, Mather said she wished New Brunswick changed the system 40 or 50 years ago when it was less expensive to start a clinic.
“We would have been, oh my goodness, so far more ahead if we had started when Nova Scotia … were doing their private practices and then again being subsidized,” said Mather.
Now that the province is moving to a private system, Lawson said this is now an opportunity for private business to thrive.
He said a year to switch the system is possible and there is business support through the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association to help New Brunswick veterinarians.
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Provincial veterinarians' union opposes cuts as agriculture minister doubles down
Union says 29 veterinarians are impacted by the province's program cut
Organizations representing provincial veterinarians in New Brunswick say their members are concerned and some are considering leaving the province after the government announced the end of public veterinary services.
The province said on Tuesday that the provincial veterinary field service would be phased out over the next three years and replaced by the private sector. The service includes large-animal veterinarians, equine services and a provincial laboratory.
The union representing provincial veterinarians, the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada, said its members are worried a private-service model won’t be as accessible and cost more.
“If these veterinary positions are going private … it will increase risks to public health and to animal welfare,” said Katie Francis, the union’s vice-president.
‘It came out of the blue’: Veterinarians respond to news of services coming to an end Francis said lack of access can cause public health issues due to slower detection of disease that could cause outbreaks.
The union said 29 veterinarians are impacted by the cuts.
Union officials are meeting with veterinarians and will soon meet with the government to discuss their concerns.
The province said the public veterinary service will end by March 31, 2027, equine services will end Dec. 31, 2026, and laboratory services will end on or before March 31, 2028.
The New Brunswick Veterinary Medical Association has also heard from its members who are provincial veterinarians.
Dr. Mary-Ellen Themens, the registrar for the association, said some veterinarians are considering leaving the province to find work elsewhere.
Dr.
Mary-Ellen Themens, left, is the registrar for the New Brunswick
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that are a part of her association are considering leaving the province
following job cuts. (Submitted by Mary-Ellen Themens) She said some are already close to retirement and others who have a couple of decades of experience are weighing their options.
“Are they looking at moving? Are they looking at establishing, you know, a private entity? It's all very early,” said Themens.
“Everyone is still sort of looking at each other saying, ‘what happened. Why?’”
Themens said only one veterinarian is considering opening a private clinic and one veterinarian already offers services to “selected farms.”
'Why are we paying for horses and goats'
Pat Finnigan, the minister of agriculture, aquaculture and fisheries, said he met with affected associations and organizations this week.
Finnigan said the people he spoke with said “a lot of us knew that [the veterinary service cut] was going to happen eventually.”
The veterinary services program is estimated to cost almost $5 million in the 2026-2027 budget. Finnagan said the province can’t keep subsidizing the service.
“Seventy-three per cent of our service calls are for companion animals for horses, for goats, for alpacas, for pot-belly pigs,” he said.
“We have to adapt to a newer system. We're not paying for dogs and cats. Why are we paying for horses and goats?"
According to a memo from the province in 2022, the province's veterinarian service stopped caring for pot-bellied pigs in 2023.
The province’s hope is for the provincial service to turnover to the private sector. That’s a hope that Themens — and others — say won’t work in New Brunswick.
Themens said there is already a shortage of large-animal veterinarians and provincial veterinarians are stretched thin covering the service that is 24/7.
“The sheer responsibility and magnitude that these members cover, that's a big gap to fill, a huge gap to fill," she said.
She said less graduates are entering the large-animal speciality as well.
For Themens, the loss of the provincial laboratory along with the veterinary service is a huge loss for the province.
“You've got a nucleus of highly trained, competent people that if that lab goes, we lose that expertise … we're below standard because every province has a provincial lab," she said.
Themens and Francis said their organizations were not consulted on the province’s decision.
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Livestock owners shocked by loss of provincial veterinary service
Farmers, veterinarian don't think switch to private service will work in N.B.
The provincial government is cutting New Brunswick’s veterinary field service, which many farmers and animal owners consider vital, and moving it to the private sector.
According to a provincial budget memo released Tuesday, the public veterinary service will end by March 31, 2027, equine services will end Dec. 31, 2026, and laboratory services will end on or before March 31, 2028.
Cindy Howe, a dairy farmer in Burton, couldn’t imagine life on her farm without the work of large-animal veterinarians in the province.
“I never thought that something like that would be on the radar because it's essential for our livestock, for food safety, animal welfare,” said Howe.
"I didn't have a doctor. Now, my cows don’t either."
Farmers dismayed by decision to cut province’s public veterinarian serviceShe said everybody in the farming community is upset about the change not only for the veterinarian but the laboratory services, too.
“Food safety is a big issue, disease control is a big issue," Howe said. "We need to have our labs that can do tests and things like that, and it's just anybody that buys food in this province should be concerned.”
Howe said the veterinarian comes to check on her herd once a month on top of emergencies like help with births or stomach issues which could lead to emergency surgery. The veterinarian also administers vaccines and checks for disease or pregnancy.
Howe said the veterinarian is available around the clock and can be at the farm to help in 30 minutes.
She said the veterinary field service is not free and those who call in a veterinarian pay for their service, any prescribed medications and if the service is after hours.
Just last week Malcolm Gilbert, a beef farmer in Burton, had trouble with a cow birth and if it hadn’t been for the veterinarian he said he would’ve lost the cow and calf.
Gilbert said he was shocked when he first heard the province’s plans to get rid of veterinary and laboratory services.
“I thought for a minute I said, 'Well, what was the rationale behind this decision making?’”
Burton
beef farmer Malcolm Gilbert thinks a plan to get rid of large-animal
veterinary services in the province is a mistake for the Holt
government. (Shane Fowler/CBC)He said he doesn’t understand the economics of getting rid of the service and thinks in a budget with big spending in other departments, like health, there must be money to fund veterinarians
“I think the government should really take a step back and reconsider their decision-making very seriously,” said Gilbert.
Privatizing the service
The province’s end goal is to privatize large-animal veterinary services, which is done in every other province except for Newfoundland and Labrador.
Howe and Gilbert don’t agree that a private-service model would work since farms are spread out and rural in New Brunswick making it tougher for timely responses.
Tim Clancy also thinks private service won’t work in the province.
He operates Lily’s Place Animal Sanctuary, which is a charity that takes care of a variety of animals. The sanctuary, which he moved to the province from Ontario, welcomes sheep, goats, chickens, ducks and horses that come from the SPCA, owner surrenders or have complex medical cases.
Clancy has gotten care for his animals in Ontario, which doesn’t provide veterinary services, and now in New Brunswick.
He said the service in Ontario was great — when he got service.
“It was hard to get them out and those middle-of-the-night calls weren't answered whereas right now, with the service we have in New Brunswick, vets are there 24 hours a day,” said Clancy.
Tim
Clancy operates Lily’s Place Animal Sanctuary, which is a charity that
takes care of a variety of animals like sheep, goats and chickens. (Submitted by Tim Clancy) Clancy’s veterinarian in southwest Ontario was two hours away. He said it was hard to get them to the farm since they were too busy.
The sanctuary spent $25,000 for the provincial veterinary field service last year and he said the cost is a little cheaper than what he’d pay in Ontario.
If it would save the service, Clancy said he’d pay more for service than lose it all together.
In a news release, the province said they understand the decision eliminate provincial services is "upsetting for employees and current clients."
The release said the cost of the services is significant to taxpayers and will be transitioned to the private sector.
The province said they will be taking steps to support the transition, such as helping provincial veterinarians setup a private practice or join an existing one as well as transferring laboratory services.
Dr. Sara Pridham, a veterinarian at Stoneybrook Veterinary Services in St. Martins, said she doesn’t see private service working, either.
She said provincial veterinarians will likely just leave.
“If this service goes, the veterinarians will go too. There's a lot of talk of them just going into private practice on their own. That's a whole lot easier said than done,” said Pridham.
She said there really aren’t private practitioners for food animals and most veterinary graduates are going into small-animal practices.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
With files from Shane Fowler and Shift
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 2:37 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Attn Dr Biil Deagle we should talk about Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) on your show ASAP
To: <birdshillwagyu@gmail.com>, <info@agwest.sk.ca>, <mccannt@capi-icpa.ca>, <Pat.Finnigan@gnb.ca>, <gburns@princegeorgehotel.com>, Jacques.Poitras <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>
This N.B. farmer's got beef that she can't ship to customers who want it
Federal inspection rules create interprovincial trade barrier for Jessica Frenette’s Wagyu beef
Jessica
Frenette, the owner of Bird's Hill Farms in Woodstock, says foodies and
chefs around the Maritimes are looking for beef from her Wagyu cows,
but trade barriers make it difficult to ship outside the province. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)Jessica Frenette's got beef.
She's got very special beef on her farm north of Woodstock, Bird's Hill Farms, that she would like to sell to eager, hungry foodies and chefs around the Maritimes.
And she's got very specific beef — a complaint, a problem — with the federal regulations that prevent her from doing that.
"From Nova Scotia, P.E.I., Newfoundland specifically, people are reaching out, wanting our product, either on their menu or to try," Frenette said.
Bird's Hill is the biggest producer of full-blood Japanese Wagyu beef in the region.
When provinces began talking about eliminating interprovincial trade barriers earlier this year, Frenette hoped that would create an opening for the next step in her vision for her business.
Potential customers "think because of what happened on the news … that now we have the capacity to send to them, and unfortunately that's not the reality," Frenette said.
"We are not able to send them our product right now. We can only sell in New Brunswick. It's definitely something that's hindering our growth potential."
Bird's Hill Farm is the biggest producer of full-blood Japanese Wagyu beef in the region. (Michael Heenan/CBC)
Wagyu is a distinctive kind of beef with a large amount of intramuscular fat — mostly due to the cow's particular genetics but also thanks to the extra effort farmers make to feed them properly and reduce their stress levels.
The result is a less dense meat with a richer, buttery flavour that fetches high prices.
Generally, meat processing, including the inspector of abattoirs, comes under provincial jurisdiction.
But if the meat is going to cross provincial borders, Canadian Food Inspection Agency regulations apply.
They're often more stringent than the provincial rules.
She’s got beef: Barriers block N.B. farm’s sales outside provinceShe said her low volume — she processes one or two cows at a time — and the costly requirement to freeze the meat at that plant would eat up all her profits.
Wagyu is also graded differently, she said.
"We're a small operation of a very specific product that needs to be processed in a very specific way, and it's just not economically feasible for us to use the federal abattoir," she said.
That creates a seemingly absurd situation for chefs in cities like Halifax with thriving restaurant scenes.
Wagyu
is a distinctive kind of beef with a large amount of intramuscular fat,
making it a less dense meat with a richer, buttery flavour that fetches
high prices. (Michael Heenan/CBC)
Greg Burns, the executive chef at the Prince George Hotel in downtown Halifax, said he can import Wagyu more easily from Australia than from Bird's Hill, a five-hour drive away.
"I can access mostly anything I want all around the world but yet I can't use a local farm that's doing great, in the Maritimes," he said.
Burns, who is from Moncton, points out that Frenette's Wagyu would be considered safe to eat in Sackville, N.B., but unsafe 10 minutes away in Amherst, N.S.
"It seems strange and weird," he said.
The rules exist for a reason, according to Tyler McCann, the managing director of the Canadian Agri-Food Institute, an independent think tank based in Ottawa.
Wagyu is a kind of beef with a large amount of intramuscular fat that
give them a special flavour prized by foodies and chefs. (Jacques
Poitras/CBC)
Frenette may set a high standard for the processing of her cattle because that's what high-end chefs and customers want, but that's not universal.
"The problem is these rules exist because not every place does take the utmost care with what they're doing and what they're producing," McCann said.
The institute published a report in 2022 that outlined how complex the issue is.
Many provinces have less stringent standards than the federal standard.
Under Canada's international trade agreements, other countries' meat shipped to Canada is subject to the stricter national rules. If domestic beef could move around the country at a lower standard, that could trigger retaliation from a major trading partner like China.
Internal trade an issue for 20 years
Even so, McCann says, the idea of harmonizing federal and provincial rules to open up internal trade is a frequent topic.
"If you look back at communiqués from federal-provincial-territorial agricultural ministers' meetings over the last 20 years, this is something that every two or three years is a major issue and they're going to try to take it and fix it," he said.
In a statement late Monday, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency said it was working with provinces, including through pilot projects, to help producers market their goods across Canada.
Provincial Agricultural Minister Pat Finnigan said in a statement that "New Brunswick continues to look for opportunities in this space" and he would raise the issue at a federal-provincial-territorial ministerial meeting this week.
Bird's
Hill Farms got into Wagyu beef nearly 10 years ago. 'It was supposed to
be a small, little operation,' said Jessica Frenette. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
But McCann said there's little impetus for change when only five per cent of the meat in Canada is slaughtered in non-federal abattoirs, and an even smaller share of that volume would ship to other provinces.
"This really matters to a small number of producers," he said.
If New Brunswick were to raise its provincial inspection standards to match the more stringent federal rules, that would solve the problem, he said.
Frenette says some aspects of the federal rules, like needing CFIA inspectors on site, would be too expensive for a small producer like her.
'Supposed to be a small, little operation'
She envisions other options, like a single regulatory system for inspections across Atlantic Canada, that would at least let her ship her Wagyu to Burns and other regional chefs.
"My hope was that we would be able to develop a memorandum of understanding where Nova Scotia would say, 'Well, if your beef is good for New Brunswickers, then we by default say it's also good for Nova Scotians,' and vice versa."
Bird's Hill got into Wagyu eight years ago, and at first "it was supposed to be a small, little operation."
But Frenette now believes she could double or triple her herd if different rules were in place.
One thing she has learned is that political rhetoric about opening up interprovincial trade comes with a big asterisk.
"Trying to figure out how we take that next step as we continue to grow has been a tough thing to navigate," she said.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.
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Le français suit…
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Date: Tue, May 20, 2025 at 12:15 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Attn Dr Biil Deagle we should talk about Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) on your show ASAP
To: <Jordan.Kealy.MLA@leg.bc.ca>, <tara.armstrong@
Cc: <james.roguski@gmail.com>, <farmfreshokanagan@proton.me>, <saveourostriches@gmail.com>
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About the President
Prior to joining the CFIA, Paul served as Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet (Governance) at the Privy Council Office (PCO) from 2021 to 2024. While there, Paul supported the Government House Leader in delivering the Government's legislative agenda while also being responsible for providing advice on machinery of government issues across numerous agencies and departments.
From 2019 to 2021, Paul was Executive Vice-President of the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA). He played a key role in leading Canada's management of the border for both travel and trade during the COVID-19 pandemic, working to support Canadian businesses by ensuring that pathways for the exporting and importing of goods remained open.
Prior to joining the CBSA, Paul was Assistant Deputy Minister of Strategic and Program Policy, at Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (2016 to 2019). His responsibilities included leading consultations with national and international partners and stakeholders to advance Canada's broad immigration policy.
Paul served as Assistant Deputy Minister of Portfolio Affairs and Communications at Public Safety Canada from 2011 to 2016. Paul worked extensively on Canada-United States border issues. He was the lead Canadian negotiator for the Agreement on Land, Rail, Marine and Air Transport Preclearance between the Government of Canada and the United States, which expedites the flow of legitimate travel and trade between Canada and the US while ensuring security and border integrity.
Paul has a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science from the University of Prince Edward Island.
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:00 PM
Subject: Nathalie G. Drouin and CSIS know Rule 55 permits the Court to vary a rule or dispense with compliance with a rule
To: bruce.fitch <bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>, <erika.hachey@mosshacheylaw.
Cc: Jason Lavigne <jason@yellowhead.vote>, jagmeet.singh <jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, <DerekRants9595@gmail.com>, ragingdissident <ragingdissident@protonmail.
Thursday 31 October 2024
Nathalie G. Drouin and CSIS know Rule 55 permits the Court to vary a rule or dispense with compliance with a rule
Senior public servant Nathalie Drouin named national security adviser to PM
Drouin takes over as government considers reforms to CSIS's governing legislation
Nathalie
Drouin has been deputy clerk of the Privy Council since August 2021 and
will retain that title as she becomes the prime minister's new national
security adviser. (facebook.com/JusticeCanada)Veteran public servant Nathalie Drouin has been named national security and intelligence adviser to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Drouin, deputy clerk of the Privy Council since August 2021, will retain that title when she takes up her new role on Jan. 27.
She becomes adviser as the Liberal government ponders significant reform of the legislation governing Canada's spy service to better address security threats.
Drouin was deputy minister of justice from 2017 to 2021.
As deputy Privy Council clerk, Drouin testified in November 2022 at the inquiry into the invocation of the Emergencies Act in response to protests that paralyzed downtown Ottawa and choked key border points.
Drouin replaces the retiring Jody Thomas, who became security adviser two years ago after serving as deputy minister of national defence.
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DATE : October 30, 2017
RE : DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Court File: A-48-16
______________________________
DIRECTION
The Registry is requested to advise the parties:
Upon notice that William F. Pentney, Q.C. is named as solicitor of record for the respondent;
“Wyman W. Webb”
J.A
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Subject: Automatic reply: Hey Bruce Fitch Perhaps you should talk to Barbara Whitenect I got a call from one of your minions within "Mental Heath" claiming the RCMP are calling me crazy again
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Subject: YO Mr Trudeau Need I say Bah Humbug again???
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Dec 14th, 2015 https://archive.org/details/
>>>>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>>>>>
>>>>> 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>>>
>>>>> January 13, 2015
>>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>>>
>>>>> December 8, 2014
>>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>>>
>>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>>>
>>>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>>>
>>>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>>>
>>>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>>>> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
>>>>> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
>>>>> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
>>>>> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
>>>>> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
>>>>> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
>>>>> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
>>>>> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
>>>>> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
>>>>> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
>>>>> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
>>>>> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
>>>>> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
>>>>> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
>>>>> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
>>>>> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
>>>>> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
>>>>> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
>>>>> are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
>>>>> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
>>>>> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
>>>>> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
>>>>> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
>>>>> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
>>>>> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
>>>>> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
>>>>> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>>>>>
>>>>> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
>>>>> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
>>>>> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
>>>>> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
>>>>> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
>>>>> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
>>>>> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
>>>>> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
>>>>> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
>>>>> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
>>>>> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
>>>>> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
>>>>> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
>>>>> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
>>>>> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
>>>>> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
>>>>> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
>>>>> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>>>>>
>>>>> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
>>>>> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
>>>>> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
>>>>> alive
>>>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
>>>>> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
>>>>> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
>>>>> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
>>>>> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
>>>>> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
>>>>> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.
>>>>> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
>>>>> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
>>>>> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
>>>>> <smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>>>>> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com
>>>>> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.
>>>>> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice" <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
>>>>> <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
>>>>> <whistleblower@ctv.ca>
>>>>>
>>>>> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
>>>>> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
>>>>> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
>>>>> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
>>>>> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
>>>>> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
>>>>> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
>>>>> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
>>>>> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
>>>>> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
>>>>> interesting though
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
>>>>> this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
>>>>> Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
>>>>> Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/
>>>>>
>>>>> The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
>>>>> shy political animal
>>>>>
>>>>> Veritas Vincit
>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy Mr Weston
>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/
>>>>>
>>>>> "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
>>>>> brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
>>>>> says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
>>>>> to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
>>>>> including a Canadian general.
>>>>>
>>>>> That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
>>>>> who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
>>>>> U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
>>>>> also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
>>>>> prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://baconfat53.blogspot.
>>>>>
>>>>> "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
>>>>> being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
>>>>> demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
>>>>> "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
>>>>> into the US policy.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
>>>>> colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
>>>>> in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
>>>>> report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
>>>>> never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
>>>>> were deployed WMD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
>>>>> invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
>>>>> concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
>>>>> (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
>>>>> about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
>>>>> that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
>>>>> authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
>>>>> its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
>>>>> to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
>>>>> folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
>>>>> upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
>>>>> are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>>>> and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
>>>>> Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
>>>>> correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
>>>>> George W Bush administration was onerous
>>>>>
>>>>> American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
>>>>> military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
>>>>> naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
>>>>> in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
>>>>> thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
>>>>> operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
>>>>> lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
>>>>> ....not necessarily in that order. "
>>>>>
>>>>> You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
>>>>> Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.socom.mil/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>EdmontonFreedomCentral@shaw.
>> >>>>>>> From: "Murray, Charles (Ombud)" <Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
>> >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:16:15 +0000
>> >>>>>>> Subject: You wished to speak with me
>> >>>>>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have the advantage, sir, of having read many of your emails
>> >>>>>>> over
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> years.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> As such, I do not think a phone conversation between us, and
>> >>>>>>> specifically one which you might mistakenly assume was in
>> >>>>>>> response
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> your threat of legal action against me, is likely to prove a
>> >>>>>>> productive use of either of our time.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If there is some specific matter about which you wish to
>> communicate
>> >>>>>>> with me, feel free to email me with the full details and it will
>> >>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>> given due consideration.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Charles Murray
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ombud NB
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Acting Integrity Commissioner
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova
>> >>>>>>>> Scotia
>> >>>>>>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Mr. Amos,
>> >>>>>>>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy
>> Minister
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
>> >>>>>>>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the
>> >>>>>>>> Province
>> >>>>>>>> of Nova Scotia. Service of any documents respecting a legal
>> >>>>>>>> claim
>> >>>>>>>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the
>> >>>>>>>> Attorney
>> >>>>>>>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS. Please note that we
>> >>>>>>>> will
>> >>>>>>>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Department of Justice
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well
>> >>>>>>>>> Please
>> >>>>>>>>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://thedavidamosrant.
>> >>>>>>>>> ilian.html
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I
>> >>>>>>>>>> must
>> >>>>>>>>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING
>> SOMETHING????
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served
>> >>>>>>>>>> upon
>> >>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament
>> >>>>>>>>>> baseball
>> >>>>>>>>>> cards?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> http://archive.org/details/
>> >>>>>>>>>> 6
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.archive.org/
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://archive.org/details/
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> >>>>>>>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> >>>>>>>>>> United States Senate
>> >>>>>>>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> >>>>>>>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> >>>>>>>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a
>> man
>> >>>>>>>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the
>> >>>>>>>>>> matters
>> >>>>>>>>>> raised in the attached letter.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire
>> >>>>>>>>>> tap
>> >>>>>>>>>> tapes.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this
>> >>>>>>>>>> previously.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Very truly yours,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> >>>>>>>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> >>>>>>>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> >>>>>>>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>>>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> >>>>>>>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> >>>>>>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Good Day Sir
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and
>> >>>>>>>>> managed
>> >>>>>>>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the
>> >>>>>>>>> lady
>> >>>>>>>>> who
>> >>>>>>>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> Sgt
>> >>>>>>>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal
>> >>>>>>>>> Tanker
>> >>>>>>>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> >>>>>>>>> suggested that you study closely.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> April 3rd, 2017
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://archive.org/details/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The only hearing thus far
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> May 24th, 2017
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://archive.org/details/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: 20151223
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> BETWEEN:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Plaintiff
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Defendant
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ORDER
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick,
>> on
>> >>>>>>>>> December 14, 2015)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion
>> >>>>>>>>> pursuant
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on
>> >>>>>>>>> November
>> >>>>>>>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of
>> >>>>>>>>> Claim
>> >>>>>>>>> in its entirety.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my
>> >>>>>>>>> attention
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my
>> >>>>>>>>> then
>> >>>>>>>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the
>> >>>>>>>>> Canadian
>> >>>>>>>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen
>> >>>>>>>>> Quigg,
>> >>>>>>>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that
>> >>>>>>>>> letter
>> >>>>>>>>> he stated:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you
>> check
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm
>> >>>>>>>>> including
>> >>>>>>>>> you.
>> >>>>>>>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a
>> >>>>>>>>> former
>> >>>>>>>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In
>> >>>>>>>>> addition
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a
>> >>>>>>>>> number
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be
>> >>>>>>>>> witnesses
>> >>>>>>>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are
>> >>>>>>>>> known
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> >>>>>>>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> >>>>>>>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba
>> Court
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob
>> >>>>>>>>> Moore;
>> >>>>>>>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau;
>> >>>>>>>>> former
>> >>>>>>>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former
>> >>>>>>>>> Staff
>> >>>>>>>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick
>> >>>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and,
>> >>>>>>>>> retired
>> >>>>>>>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> >>>>>>>>> Police.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> >>>>>>>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with
>> >>>>>>>>> many
>> >>>>>>>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation,
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> am
>> >>>>>>>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias
>> >>>>>>>>> should
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment
>> in
>> >>>>>>>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board
>> et
>> >>>>>>>>> al,
>> >>>>>>>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> >>>>>>>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither
>> >>>>>>>>> party
>> >>>>>>>>> has
>> >>>>>>>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do
>> so.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the
>> >>>>>>>>> Administrator
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.
>> >>>>>>>>> There
>> >>>>>>>>> is no order as to costs.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> >>>>>>>>> Judge
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one
>> >>>>>>>>> comment
>> >>>>>>>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I
>> >>>>>>>>> had
>> >>>>>>>>> sent
>> >>>>>>>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the
>> >>>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of
>> >>>>>>>>> my
>> >>>>>>>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest
>> >>>>>>>>> Trudeau
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> most
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> >>>>>>>>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the
>> >>>>>>>>> CROWN
>> >>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you
>> >>>>>>>>> planning
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust
>> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>>> dudes are way past too late
>> >>>>>>>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me
>> >>>>>>>>> rejoindre
>> >>>>>>>>> à
>> >>>>>>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un
>> >>>>>>>>> courriel
>> >>>>>>>>> à
>> >>>>>>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>> >>>>>>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>> >>>>>>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Merci ,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in
>> more
>> >>>>>>>>> war
>> >>>>>>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and
>> >>>>>>>>> reputation
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times
>> >>>>>>>>> over
>> >>>>>>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> January 13, 2015
>> >>>>>>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The
>> >>>>>>>>> Debate
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> December 8, 2014
>> >>>>>>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> >>>>>>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes
>> >>>>>>>>> And
>> >>>>>>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer
>> >>>>>>>>> hide
>> >>>>>>>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean
>> >>>>>>>>> Chretien
>> >>>>>>>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second
>> >>>>>>>>> campaign
>> >>>>>>>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or
>> >>>>>>>>> contrary
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> >>>>>>>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation.
>> >>>>>>>>> There
>> >>>>>>>>> were
>> >>>>>>>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the
>> >>>>>>>>> dearth
>> >>>>>>>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> >>>>>>>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last
>> >>>>>>>>> minute”
>> >>>>>>>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its
>> >>>>>>>>> mind.
>> >>>>>>>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would
>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> >>>>>>>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan
>> cousins
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it
>> was
>> >>>>>>>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq.
>> >>>>>>>>> But
>> >>>>>>>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister
>> >>>>>>>>> Chretien’s
>> >>>>>>>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean
>> Chretien’s
>> >>>>>>>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> >>>>>>>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI
>> Battle
>> >>>>>>>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> >>>>>>>>> campaign of 2006.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is
>> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>> then
>> >>>>>>>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice,
>> >>>>>>>>> consent,
>> >>>>>>>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and
>> >>>>>>>>> babbling
>> >>>>>>>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the
>> >>>>>>>>> deployment
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by
>> >>>>>>>>> planners
>> >>>>>>>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> >>>>>>>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins
>> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to
>> >>>>>>>>> war.
>> >>>>>>>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian
>> >>>>>>>>> public
>> >>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can
>> >>>>>>>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> >>>>>>>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien
>> >>>>>>>>> Government
>> >>>>>>>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in
>> >>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons
>> >>>>>>>>> regarding
>> a
>> >>>>>>>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the
>> >>>>>>>>> terror
>> >>>>>>>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed
>> >>>>>>>>> state”
>> >>>>>>>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and
>> >>>>>>>>> control,
>> >>>>>>>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world.
>> >>>>>>>>> The
>> >>>>>>>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was
>> >>>>>>>>> vital
>> >>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the
>> actions
>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the
>> >>>>>>>>> CBC
>> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is
>> >>>>>>>>> ethical.
>> >>>>>>>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject:
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> >>>>>>>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>> >>>>>>>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> January 30, 2007
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Mr. David Amos
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of
>> December
>> >>>>>>>>> 29,
>> >>>>>>>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message,
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant
>> >>>>>>>>> Commissioner
>> >>>>>>>>> Steve
>> >>>>>>>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> >>>>>>>>> Minister of Health
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> CM/cb
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> >>>>>>>>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> >>>>>>>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>> >>>>>>>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>> >>>>>>>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> >>>>>>>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com,
>> >>>>>>>>> riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
>> >>>>>>>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> >>>>>>>>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> >>>>>>>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days
>> off
>> >>>>>>>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest
>> >>>>>>>>> assured
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your
>> >>>>>>>>> concerns.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our
>> >>>>>>>>> position
>> >>>>>>>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not
>> process
>> >>>>>>>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide
>> these
>> >>>>>>>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in
>> >>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be
>> done.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> >>>>>>>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is
>> clear
>> >>>>>>>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in
>> Canada
>> >>>>>>>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>> >>>>>>>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we
>> >>>>>>>>> had
>> >>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future
>> >>>>>>>>> endeavors.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> >>>>>>>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> >>>>>>>>> Traffic Services NCO
>> >>>>>>>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> >>>>>>>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> >>>>>>>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> >>>>>>>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> >>>>>>>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> >>>>>>>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> >>>>>>>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> >>>>>>>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>> >>>>>>>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sunday, 19 November 2017
>> >>>>>>>> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And
>> >>>>>>>> Publishes
>> >>>>>>>> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter
>> >>>>>>>> Before
>> >>>>>>>> The Supreme Court
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Amos v. Canada
>> >>>>>>>> Court (s) Database
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>> >>>>>>>> Date
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 2017-10-30
>> >>>>>>>> Neutral citation
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 2017 FCA 213
>> >>>>>>>> File numbers
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> A-48-16
>> >>>>>>>> Date: 20171030
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Docket: A-48-16
>> >>>>>>>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>> >>>>>>>> CORAM:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> WEBB J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> NEAR J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> GLEASON J.A.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> BETWEEN:
>> >>>>>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>> >>>>>>>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>> >>>>>>>> (and formally Appellant)
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> >>>>>>>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>> >>>>>>>> (and formerly Respondent)
>> >>>>>>>> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
>> >>>>>>>> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
>> >>>>>>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> THE COURT
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Date: 20171030
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Docket: A-48-16
>> >>>>>>>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>> >>>>>>>> CORAM:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> WEBB J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> NEAR J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> GLEASON J.A.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> BETWEEN:
>> >>>>>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>> >>>>>>>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>> >>>>>>>> (and formally Appellant)
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> >>>>>>>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>> >>>>>>>> (and formerly Respondent)
>> >>>>>>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I. Introduction
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [1] On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos)
>> >>>>>>>> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
>> >>>>>>>> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11
>> >>>>>>>> million
>> >>>>>>>> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and
>> >>>>>>>> Provincial
>> >>>>>>>> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
>> >>>>>>>> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public
>> >>>>>>>> Safety
>> >>>>>>>> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal
>> >>>>>>>> Canadian
>> >>>>>>>> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his
>> >>>>>>>> clan
>> >>>>>>>> (Claim at para. 96).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [2] On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by
>> >>>>>>>> way
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court
>> >>>>>>>> (the
>> >>>>>>>> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
>> >>>>>>>> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
>> >>>>>>>> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally
>> >>>>>>>> vexatious,
>> >>>>>>>> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment
>> >>>>>>>> (the
>> >>>>>>>> Prothontary’s Order).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [3] On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of
>> >>>>>>>> Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of
>> >>>>>>>> Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for
>> damages
>> >>>>>>>> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [4] Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of
>> >>>>>>>> Status
>> >>>>>>>> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19,
>> >>>>>>>> 2016.
>> >>>>>>>> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
>> >>>>>>>> cross-appeal.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> II. Preliminary Matter
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [5] Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
>> >>>>>>>> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on
>> >>>>>>>> March
>> >>>>>>>> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including
>> two
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this
>> >>>>>>>> appeal.
>> >>>>>>>> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he
>> >>>>>>>> believed
>> >>>>>>>> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
>> >>>>>>>> several judges but did not name those judges.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [6] Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court
>> >>>>>>>> because
>> >>>>>>>> he
>> >>>>>>>> had identified the judges in various documents that had been
>> >>>>>>>> filed
>> >>>>>>>> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document
>> filed
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is
>> >>>>>>>> based
>> >>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C.,
>> >>>>>>>> 1985,
>> >>>>>>>> c. F-7:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or
>> >>>>>>>> her
>> >>>>>>>> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
>> >>>>>>>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> Appeal.
>> >>>>>>>> […]
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la
>> >>>>>>>> Cour
>> >>>>>>>> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs
>> >>>>>>>> que
>> >>>>>>>> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
>> >>>>>>>> […]
>> >>>>>>>> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
>> >>>>>>>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges
>> de
>> >>>>>>>> la
>> >>>>>>>> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs
>> >>>>>>>> que
>> >>>>>>>> les
>> >>>>>>>> juges de la Cour fédérale.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [7] However, these subsections only provide that
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and
>> vice
>> >>>>>>>> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> section.
>> >>>>>>>> [8] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act
>> >>>>>>>> provide
>> >>>>>>>> that:
>> >>>>>>>> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
>> >>>>>>>> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
>> >>>>>>>> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada
>> and
>> >>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>>> a superior court of record having civil and criminal
>> >>>>>>>> jurisdiction.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour
>> >>>>>>>> d’appel
>> >>>>>>>> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
>> >>>>>>>> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est
>> >>>>>>>> maintenue
>> >>>>>>>> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté
>> du
>> >>>>>>>> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
>> >>>>>>>> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence
>> >>>>>>>> en
>> >>>>>>>> matière civile et pénale.
>> >>>>>>>> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
>> >>>>>>>> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
>> >>>>>>>> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada,
>> >>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a
>> >>>>>>>> superior
>> >>>>>>>> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section
>> >>>>>>>> de
>> >>>>>>>> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée
>> >>>>>>>> «
>> >>>>>>>> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais.
>> >>>>>>>> Elle
>> >>>>>>>> est
>> >>>>>>>> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
>> >>>>>>>> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
>> >>>>>>>> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives
>> >>>>>>>> ayant
>> >>>>>>>> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [9] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act
>> create
>> >>>>>>>> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there
>> would
>> >>>>>>>> no
>> >>>>>>>> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as
>> >>>>>>>> required
>> >>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in
>> >>>>>>>> relation
>> >>>>>>>> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The
>> requirement
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> a
>> >>>>>>>> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only
>> >>>>>>>> documents
>> >>>>>>>> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> appeal book.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [10] Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed
>> >>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in
>> >>>>>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
>> >>>>>>>> conflict in any matter related to him.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [11] On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a
>> >>>>>>>> motion
>> >>>>>>>> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the
>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> if
>> >>>>>>>> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court.
>> >>>>>>>> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
>> >>>>>>>> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion
>> >>>>>>>> brought
>> >>>>>>>> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents
>> >>>>>>>> filed
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this
>> >>>>>>>> Court.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [12] During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was
>> >>>>>>>> also
>> >>>>>>>> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the
>> conflict
>> >>>>>>>> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in
>> >>>>>>>> his
>> >>>>>>>> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several
>> >>>>>>>> pages
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
>> >>>>>>>> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the
>> >>>>>>>> particular
>> >>>>>>>> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by
>> >>>>>>>> including
>> >>>>>>>> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim
>> that
>> >>>>>>>> such judge had a conflict.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [13] The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice
>> >>>>>>>> Webb
>> >>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of
>> >>>>>>>> Canada
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and
>> >>>>>>>> before
>> >>>>>>>> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> he
>> >>>>>>>> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a
>> >>>>>>>> partner
>> >>>>>>>> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
>> >>>>>>>> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in
>> >>>>>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>> Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> he
>> >>>>>>>> was a member of such firm.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [14] During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
>> >>>>>>>> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice
>> >>>>>>>> Webb,
>> >>>>>>>> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
>> >>>>>>>> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr.
>> Amos
>> >>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
>> >>>>>>>> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such
>> >>>>>>>> dealings
>> >>>>>>>> were
>> >>>>>>>> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the
>> >>>>>>>> Tax
>> >>>>>>>> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [15] The documents that he submitted in relation to
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings
>> >>>>>>>> between
>> >>>>>>>> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where
>> >>>>>>>> Justice
>> >>>>>>>> Webb
>> >>>>>>>> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing
>> between
>> >>>>>>>> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of
>> >>>>>>>> Stephen
>> >>>>>>>> May
>> >>>>>>>> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
>> >>>>>>>> Palmer.
>> >>>>>>>> The
>> >>>>>>>> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of
>> >>>>>>>> e-mails
>> >>>>>>>> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also
>> >>>>>>>> included
>> a
>> >>>>>>>> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is
>> >>>>>>>> John
>> >>>>>>>> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
>> >>>>>>>> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
>> >>>>>>>> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
>> >>>>>>>> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
>> >>>>>>>> [16] Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice
>> >>>>>>>> Webb
>> >>>>>>>> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In
>> >>>>>>>> Wewaykum
>> >>>>>>>> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2
>> >>>>>>>> S.C.R.
>> >>>>>>>> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
>> >>>>>>>> apprehension of bias:
>> >>>>>>>> 60 In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
>> >>>>>>>> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by
>> >>>>>>>> de
>> >>>>>>>> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National
>> Energy
>> >>>>>>>> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> reasonable apprehension of bias:
>> >>>>>>>> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
>> >>>>>>>> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
>> >>>>>>>> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the
>> >>>>>>>> words
>> >>>>>>>> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed
>> >>>>>>>> person,
>> >>>>>>>> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having
>> >>>>>>>> thought
>> >>>>>>>> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more
>> >>>>>>>> likely
>> >>>>>>>> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
>> >>>>>>>> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [17] The issue to be determined is whether an informed
>> >>>>>>>> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and
>> >>>>>>>> having
>> >>>>>>>> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’
>> >>>>>>>> allegations
>> >>>>>>>> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court
>> >>>>>>>> has
>> >>>>>>>> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges
>> >>>>>>>> will
>> >>>>>>>> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
>> >>>>>>>> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias
>> >>>>>>>> (Collins
>> >>>>>>>> v.
>> >>>>>>>> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins].
>> See
>> >>>>>>>> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151
>> >>>>>>>> D.L.R.
>> >>>>>>>> (4th) 193).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [18] The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd.
>> >>>>>>>> v.
>> >>>>>>>> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the
>> >>>>>>>> Supreme
>> >>>>>>>> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
>> >>>>>>>> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
>> >>>>>>>> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The
>> >>>>>>>> Ontario
>> >>>>>>>> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified
>> >>>>>>>> if
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he
>> >>>>>>>> was
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the
>> >>>>>>>> rules
>> >>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
>> >>>>>>>> 27 Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case
>> >>>>>>>> over
>> >>>>>>>> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no
>> >>>>>>>> involvement,
>> >>>>>>>> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 28 The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson
>> been
>> >>>>>>>> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his
>> >>>>>>>> appointment
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a
>> >>>>>>>> trial
>> >>>>>>>> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered
>> >>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v.
>> >>>>>>>> Bayfield
>> >>>>>>>> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58,
>> that
>> >>>>>>>> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a
>> >>>>>>>> judge
>> >>>>>>>> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 29 It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be
>> >>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
>> >>>>>>>> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
>> >>>>>>>> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of
>> >>>>>>>> disqualification
>> >>>>>>>> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations
>> of
>> >>>>>>>> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's
>> >>>>>>>> previous
>> >>>>>>>> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by
>> >>>>>>>> Sopinka
>> >>>>>>>> J.
>> >>>>>>>> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249
>> (S.C.C.),
>> >>>>>>>> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a
>> >>>>>>>> disqualifying
>> >>>>>>>> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a
>> >>>>>>>> conclusory
>> >>>>>>>> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
>> >>>>>>>> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial
>> >>>>>>>> judge.
>> >>>>>>>> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case
>> and
>> >>>>>>>> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face
>> >>>>>>>> value
>> >>>>>>>> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para.
>> 19.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 30 That brings me then to consider the particular
>> >>>>>>>> circumstances
>> >>>>>>>> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
>> >>>>>>>> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view,
>> >>>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision
>> not
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties
>> >>>>>>>> accept,
>> >>>>>>>> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm
>> and
>> >>>>>>>> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long
>> >>>>>>>> passage
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
>> >>>>>>>> To us, one significant factor stands out, and must
>> >>>>>>>> inform
>> >>>>>>>> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That
>> factor
>> >>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
>> >>>>>>>> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the
>> >>>>>>>> decision-making,
>> >>>>>>>> or that occurred within a short time prior to the
>> >>>>>>>> decision-making.
>> >>>>>>>> 31 There are other factors that inform the issue. The
>> Wilson
>> >>>>>>>> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J.
>> >>>>>>>> had
>> >>>>>>>> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship
>> with
>> >>>>>>>> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 32 In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
>> >>>>>>>> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal
>> fairly
>> >>>>>>>> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally
>> >>>>>>>> because
>> >>>>>>>> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of
>> >>>>>>>> involvement
>> >>>>>>>> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had
>> >>>>>>>> carriage.
>> >>>>>>>> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere
>> >>>>>>>> fact
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from
>> over
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he
>> >>>>>>>> would
>> >>>>>>>> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's
>> former
>> >>>>>>>> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would
>> >>>>>>>> throw
>> >>>>>>>> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and
>> >>>>>>>> favour
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six
>> >>>>>>>> years
>> >>>>>>>> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case
>> involving
>> >>>>>>>> events from over a decade ago.
>> >>>>>>>> (emphasis added)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [19] Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
>> >>>>>>>> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
>> >>>>>>>> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos
>> made
>> >>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
>> >>>>>>>> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough
>> >>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos
>> >>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would
>> >>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when
>> he
>> >>>>>>>> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
>> >>>>>>>> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos
>> >>>>>>>> had
>> >>>>>>>> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself
>> >>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
>> >>>>>>>> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer
>> >>>>>>>> would
>> >>>>>>>> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in
>> >>>>>>>> Justice
>> >>>>>>>> Webb hearing this appeal.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [20] Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man.
>> >>>>>>>> R.
>> >>>>>>>> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
>> >>>>>>>> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a
>> member
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no
>> >>>>>>>> involvement
>> >>>>>>>> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [21] In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue,
>> [2000]
>> >>>>>>>> 4
>> >>>>>>>> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
>> >>>>>>>> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person
>> who
>> >>>>>>>> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished
>> >>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>>> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files
>> >>>>>>>> involving
>> >>>>>>>> Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson
>> >>>>>>>> Law.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD.
>> He
>> >>>>>>>> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a
>> >>>>>>>> “true
>> >>>>>>>> copy
>> >>>>>>>> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this
>> >>>>>>>> CD.
>> >>>>>>>> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the
>> >>>>>>>> CD
>> >>>>>>>> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement
>> >>>>>>>> authorities
>> >>>>>>>> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are
>> >>>>>>>> willing
>> >>>>>>>> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an
>> >>>>>>>> “American
>> >>>>>>>> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American
>> law
>> >>>>>>>> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests,
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [23] As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
>> >>>>>>>> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason
>> >>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>> him
>> >>>>>>>> to recuse himself.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [24] Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past
>> >>>>>>>> professional
>> >>>>>>>> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in
>> >>>>>>>> deciding
>> >>>>>>>> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
>> >>>>>>>> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [25] Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for
>> Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he
>> >>>>>>>> alleges
>> >>>>>>>> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he
>> >>>>>>>> wrote
>> >>>>>>>> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that
>> time,
>> >>>>>>>> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law
>> firm
>> >>>>>>>> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and
>> >>>>>>>> angry,
>> >>>>>>>> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me
>> >>>>>>>> suing
>> >>>>>>>> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the
>> >>>>>>>> letter
>> >>>>>>>> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by
>> >>>>>>>> Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no
>> reason
>> >>>>>>>> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question
>> >>>>>>>> does
>> >>>>>>>> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> III. Issue
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [26] The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the
>> >>>>>>>> Claim
>> >>>>>>>> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that
>> >>>>>>>> Mr.
>> >>>>>>>> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
>> >>>>>>>> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> IV. Analysis
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> A. Standard of Review
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [27] Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
>> >>>>>>>> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of
>> >>>>>>>> review
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and
>> >>>>>>>> decisions
>> >>>>>>>> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in
>> >>>>>>>> Hospira
>> >>>>>>>> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA
>> >>>>>>>> 215,
>> >>>>>>>> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
>> >>>>>>>> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2
>> >>>>>>>> S.C.R.
>> >>>>>>>> 235
>> >>>>>>>> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made
>> >>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal
>> if
>> >>>>>>>> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and
>> >>>>>>>> overriding
>> >>>>>>>> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed
>> >>>>>>>> fact
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only
>> >>>>>>>> interfere
>> >>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary
>> >>>>>>>> order
>> >>>>>>>> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding
>> >>>>>>>> error
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
>> >>>>>>>> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [28] In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
>> >>>>>>>> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This
>> >>>>>>>> Court
>> >>>>>>>> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the
>> >>>>>>>> Judge
>> >>>>>>>> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing
>> to
>> >>>>>>>> interfere.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> B. Did the Judge err in interfering with the
>> >>>>>>>> Prothonotary’s Order?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [29] The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
>> >>>>>>>> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for
>> >>>>>>>> striking
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 17. Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the
>> Plaintiff
>> >>>>>>>> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but
>> >>>>>>>> four
>> >>>>>>>> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> 2006
>> >>>>>>>> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction
>> of
>> >>>>>>>> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in
>> right
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the
>> >>>>>>>> Province
>> >>>>>>>> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident
>> >>>>>>>> alleged
>> >>>>>>>> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this
>> >>>>>>>> Court.
>> >>>>>>>> (…)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 21. The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
>> >>>>>>>> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the
>> >>>>>>>> location
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
>> >>>>>>>> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible
>> to
>> >>>>>>>> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to
>> >>>>>>>> advance.
>> >>>>>>>> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the
>> >>>>>>>> Defendant
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action.
>> >>>>>>>> At
>> >>>>>>>> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
>> >>>>>>>> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
>> >>>>>>>> [footnotes omitted].
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [30] The Judge determined that he could not strike the
>> >>>>>>>> Claim
>> >>>>>>>> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge
>> >>>>>>>> noted
>> >>>>>>>> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
>> >>>>>>>> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the
>> >>>>>>>> actors
>> >>>>>>>> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
>> >>>>>>>> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In
>> >>>>>>>> considering
>> >>>>>>>> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
>> >>>>>>>> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
>> >>>>>>>> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
>> >>>>>>>> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment
>> >>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>> para. 27).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [31] The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
>> >>>>>>>> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v.
>> >>>>>>>> Canada,
>> >>>>>>>> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [13] As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse,
>> >>>>>>>> 2003
>> >>>>>>>> SCC
>> >>>>>>>> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
>> >>>>>>>> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
>> >>>>>>>> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and
>> >>>>>>>> unlawful
>> >>>>>>>> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
>> >>>>>>>> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the
>> >>>>>>>> plaintiff;
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the
>> >>>>>>>> public
>> >>>>>>>> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
>> >>>>>>>> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
>> >>>>>>>> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [32] The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed
>> >>>>>>>> sufficient
>> >>>>>>>> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance
>> >>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
>> >>>>>>>> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
>> >>>>>>>> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [33] This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of
>> >>>>>>>> pleadings
>> >>>>>>>> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184,
>> 321
>> >>>>>>>> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
>> >>>>>>>> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
>> >>>>>>>> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did
>> >>>>>>>> steal”.
>> >>>>>>>> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is
>> >>>>>>>> called
>> >>>>>>>> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making
>> >>>>>>>> bald,
>> >>>>>>>> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an
>> >>>>>>>> abuse
>> >>>>>>>> of process…
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public
>> >>>>>>>> office
>> >>>>>>>> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in
>> carrying
>> >>>>>>>> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the
>> >>>>>>>> public
>> >>>>>>>> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or
>> her
>> >>>>>>>> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
>> >>>>>>>> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
>> >>>>>>>> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of
>> >>>>>>>> mind
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
>> >>>>>>>> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [34] Applying the Housen standard of review to the
>> >>>>>>>> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge
>> >>>>>>>> interfered
>> >>>>>>>> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [35] The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
>> >>>>>>>> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material
>> >>>>>>>> facts
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which
>> >>>>>>>> addresses
>> >>>>>>>> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP
>> officer
>> >>>>>>>> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
>> >>>>>>>> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in
>> >>>>>>>> bad
>> >>>>>>>> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was
>> >>>>>>>> barred
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious
>> >>>>>>>> reasons,
>> >>>>>>>> these allegations are not particularized and are directed
>> >>>>>>>> against
>> >>>>>>>> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the
>> Legislative
>> >>>>>>>> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As
>> >>>>>>>> such,
>> >>>>>>>> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> RCMP
>> >>>>>>>> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was
>> >>>>>>>> capable
>> >>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>> supporting a cause of action.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> [36] In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of
>> >>>>>>>> bare
>> >>>>>>>> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
>> >>>>>>>> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the
>> >>>>>>>> Federal
>> >>>>>>>> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety.
>> >>>>>>>> Further,
>> >>>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>>> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to
>> amend.
>> >>>>>>>> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> V. Conclusion
>> >>>>>>>> [37] For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the
>> >>>>>>>> Crown’s
>> >>>>>>>> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court
>> Judgment,
>> >>>>>>>> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order,
>> >>>>>>>> dated
>> >>>>>>>> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
>> >>>>>>>> without leave to amend.
>> >>>>>>>> "Wyman W. Webb"
>> >>>>>>>> J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> "David G. Near"
>> >>>>>>>> J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
>> >>>>>>>> J.A.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
>> >>>>>>>> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT
>> >>>>>>>> DATED
>> >>>>>>>> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
>> >>>>>>>> DOCKET:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> A-48-16
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> STYLE OF CAUSE:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> PLACE OF HEARING:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Fredericton,
>> >>>>>>>> New Brunswick
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> DATE OF HEARING:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> May 24, 2017
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> WEBB J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> NEAR J.A.
>> >>>>>>>> GLEASON J.A.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> DATED:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> October 30, 2017
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> APPEARANCES:
>> >>>>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
>> >>>>>>>> (on his own behalf)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jan Jensen
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
>> >>>>>>>> Nathalie G. Drouin
>> >>>>>>>> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> >>>>> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 19:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
>> >>>>> From: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> >>>>> Subject: Now everybody and his dog knows TJ Burke and his cop
>> >>>>> buddies
>> >>>>> allegations against me are false and you had the proof all along EH
>> >>>>> Chucky?
>> >>>>> To: oldmaison@yahoo.com, nbombud@gnb.ca, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca,
>> >>>>> jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, news@dailygleaner.com,
>> >>>>> kcarmichael@bloomberg.net, advocacycollective@yahoo.com,
>> >>>>> Easter.W@parl.gc.ca, Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca,
>> >>>>> cityadmin@fredericton.ca
>> ,
>> >>>>> info@gg.ca, bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, rchedore@mosherchedore.ca,
>> >>>>> police@fredericton.ca, chebert@thestar.ca, Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca,
>> >>>>> Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca,
>> >>>>> alltrue@nl.rogers.com,
>> >>>>> Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, Dryden.K@parl.gc.ca,
>> >>>>> Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca
>> >>>>> CC: dgleg@nb.aibn.com, brad.woodside@fredericton.ca,
>> >>>>> whalen@fredericton.ca, david.kelly@fredericton.ca,
>> >>>>> cathy.maclaggan@fredericton.ca
>> >>>>> tom.jellinek@fredericton.ca, scott.mcconaghy@fredericton.ca
>> >>>>> marilyn.kerton@fredericton.ca, walter.brown@fredericton.ca,
>> >>>>> norah.davidson@fredericton.ca, mike.obrien@fredericton.ca,
>> >>>>> bruce.grandy@fredericton.ca, dan.keenan@fredericton.ca,
>> >>>>> jeff.mockler@gnb.ca, mrichard@lawsociety-barreau.
>> >>>>> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.
>> >>>>> scotta@parl.gc.ca, michael.bray@gnb.ca, jack.e.mackay@gnb.ca
>> >>>>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.canadaeast.com/ce2/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://oldmaison.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://oldmaison.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://oldmaison.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://maritimes.indymedia.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Methinks your liberal pals just made a major faux pas N'est Pas?
>> >>>>> Scroll down Frenchie and go down?.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Threat against Burke taken seriously
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> By STEPHEN LLEWELLYN
>> >>>>> dgleg@nb.aibn.com
>> >>>>> Published Thursday May 24th, 2007
>> >>>>> Appeared on page A1
>> >>>>> An RCMP security detail has been guarding Justice Minister and
>> >>>>> Attorney General T.J. Burke because of threats made against him
>> >>>>> recently.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burke, the Liberal MLA for Fredericton-Fort Nashwaaksis, wouldn't
>> >>>>> explain the nature of the threats.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "I have had a particular individual or individuals who have made
>> >>>>> specific overtures about causing harm towards me," he told
>> >>>>> reporters
>> >>>>> Wednesday.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "The RCMP has provided security to me recently by accompanying me
>> >>>>> to
>> a
>> >>>>> couple of public functions where the individual is known to reside
>> >>>>> or
>> >>>>> have family members in the area," said Burke. "It is nice to have
>> some
>> >>>>> added protection and that added comfort."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The RCMP provides protection to the premier and MLAs with its VIP
>> >>>>> security
>> >>>>> unit.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burke didn't say when the threat was made but it's believed to have
>> >>>>> been in recent weeks.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "When a threat is posed to you and it is a credible threat, you
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> to be cautious about where you go and who you are around," he said.
>> >>>>> "But again, I am more concerned about my family as opposed to my
>> >>>>> own
>> >>>>> personal safety."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burke said he doesn't feel any differently and he has not changed
>> >>>>> his
>> >>>>> pattern of activity.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "It doesn't bother me one bit," he said. "It makes my wife feel
>> >>>>> awful
>> >>>>> nervous."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burke served in an elite American military unit before becoming a
>> >>>>> lawyer and going into politics in New Brunswick.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "(I) have taken my own precautions and what I have to do to ensure
>> >>>>> my
>> >>>>> family's safety," he said. "I am a very cautious person in general
>> due
>> >>>>> to my background and training.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "I am comfortable with defending myself or my family if it ever had
>> to
>> >>>>> happen."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burke said it is not uncommon for politicians to have security
>> >>>>> concerns.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "We do live unfortunately in an age and in a society now where
>> threats
>> >>>>> have to be taken pretty seriously," he said.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Since the terrorism attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001,
>> >>>>> security in New Brunswick has been
>> >>>>> beefed up.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Metal detectors were recently installed in the legislature and all
>> >>>>> visitors are screened.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The position of attorney general is often referred to as the
>> >>>>> province's "top cop."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burke said sometimes people do not differentiate between his role
>> >>>>> as
>> >>>>> the manager of the justice system and the individual who actually
>> >>>>> prosecutes them.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "With the job sometimes comes threats," he said. "I have had
>> >>>>> numerous
>> >>>>> threats since Day 1 in office."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burke said he hopes his First Nations heritage has nothing to do
>> >>>>> with
>> >>>>> it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "I think it is more of an issue where people get fixated on a
>> >>>>> matter
>> >>>>> and they believe you are personally responsible for assigning them
>> >>>>> their punishment or their sanction," he said.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is the threat from someone who was recently incarcerated?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "I probably shouldn't answer that," he replied.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Reporters asked when the threat would be over.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "I don't think a threat ever passes once it has been made," said
>> >>>>> Burke. "You have to consider the credibility of the source."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Bruce Fitch, former justice minister in the Conservative
>> >>>>> government,
>> >>>>> said "every now and again there would be e-mails that were not
>> >>>>> complimentary."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "I did have a meeting with the RCMP who are in charge of the
>> >>>>> security
>> >>>>> of the MLAs and ministers," said Fitch.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "They look at each and every situation."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Fitch said he never had bodyguards assigned to him although former
>> >>>>> premier Bernard Lord and former health minister Elvy Robichaud did
>> >>>>> have extra security staff assigned on occasion.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> He said if any MLA felt threatened, he or she would discuss it with
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> RCMP.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.archive.org/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Small World EH Chucky Leblanc?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Lafleur, Lou" lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> From: "Lafleur, Lou" lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
>> >>>>> To: "'motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com'" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com,
>> >>>>> "Lafleur, Lou" lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
>> >>>>> Subject: Fredericton Police Force
>> >>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:21:13 -0300
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dear Mr. Amos
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My Name is Lou LaFleur and I am a Detective with the Fredericton
>> >>>>> Police Major Crime Unit. I would like to talk to you regarding
>> >>>>> files
>> >>>>> that I am investigating and that you are alleged to have
>> >>>>> involvement
>> >>>>> in.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Please call me at your earliest convenience and leave a message and
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> phone number on my secure and confidential line if I am not in my
>> >>>>> office.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> yours truly,
>> >>>>> Cpl. Lou LaFleur
>> >>>>> Fredericton Police Force
>> >>>>> 311 Queen St.
>> >>>>> Fredericton, NB
>> >>>>> 506-460-2332
>> >>>>> ______________________________
>> >>>>> This electronic mail, including any attachments, is confidential
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may be
>> >>>>> privileged.
>> >>>>> Any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure or review is
>> >>>>> prohibited. Neither communication over the Internet nor disclosure
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> anyone other than the intended recipient constitutes waiver of
>> >>>>> privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please
>> >>>>> immediately
>> >>>>> notify the sender and then delete this communication and any
>> >>>>> attachments from your computer system and records without saving or
>> >>>>> forwarding it. Thank you.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
