Monday 9 April 2018

Peaceful protest. Peaceful trial. Peaceful Jail Time. Peace & Quiet.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/elizabeth-may-kennedy-stewart-kinder-morgan-arrest-court-appearance-1.4611437


Pipeline protesters including MPs Elizabeth May, Kennedy Stewart should face criminal charge: judge

Green Party leader, NDP MP appeared in court Monday after arrest for civil contempt

Rhianna Schmunk · CBC News · Posted: Apr 09, 2018 12:00 PM PT

  1545 Comments 

Commenting is now closed for this story.


bren hynes 
bren hynes
Not only should they be charged..they should lose their jobs.


David Amos
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David Amos
@bren hynes Ms May supported my illegal barring from parliamentary properties after I met her challenge and sent her hard copy ten years ago when she called me a liar. She knows I have no criminal record whatsoever and have in fact sued the Crown while she and I and everybody else were running in the election of the 42nd Parliament and still she played dumb.

So oh yea May should lose her job..

David Amos
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David Amos
@David Amos CBC blocks another true statement? So much for it being non partisan N'esy Pas?

Allan Jones 
Allan Jones
Agree totally. They are paid protesters so whoever is funding them is complicit.


Richard Donald
Richard Donald
@Allan Jones Freeze Soros asetts

David Amos
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David Amos
@Richard Donald I agree

 bren hynes 
Lloyd Johnson
Elizabeth May should definitely be charged spend a few days in jail.

The Premier can talk all he wants to have BC'ers interests in mind. What about all the POOP they dump into the ocean; yes, they a working on the fix; but what about the past 100+ years?

Mr. Weaver, the Tail wagging the dog.

Some of the communities along the Lakes & Rivers including the reservations in BC have very limited Treatment Plants. Why not do something useful & have them clean it up.

How many of these protesters have nothing better to do than to protest; including Elisabeth May

She needs to get a real job


David Amos
David Amos
 @Lloyd Johnson "Speaking cheerily outside court after her appearance, May said she wouldn't be commenting on what happened in the courtroom nor on the charges against her "out of respect" for the court process."

Methinks the Lady doth protest too much The statement above in my humble opinion is just false bravado. May is a lawyer who has been defeated in court before on environmental issues. She must understand that she is in deep Doo Doo just like all the POOP they dump into the ocean N'esy Pas?


Mike Smith 
Mike Smith
Elizabeth May should face criminal charges regardless.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mike Smith YUP

edgar edson 
edgar edson
Haven't heard much about the "survivors" who submitted complaints regarding May's bullying, belittling and insulting them.


David Amos
David Amos
@edgar edson May's bullying, belittling and insulting them are the least f their troubles right now.


Kevin Delaney 
Kevin Delaney
Peaceful protest. Peaceful trial. Peaceful Jail Time. Peace & Quiet.


David Amos
David Amos
@Kevin Delaney LOL

 bren hynes 
Beverly Olsen
This is exactly how Trudeau likes Canada divided, and fighting one another...what a mess Canada is in with this guy


David Amos
David Amos
@Beverly Olsen Methinks to be fair we fared no better under Harper N'esy Pas?


Chris Gibson 
Chris Gibson
This is the best news I have heard today. Words of Wisdom from the Judicial system.


David Amos
David Amos
@Chris Gibson ME TOO


bren hynes 
Shirley Witt
If the government of the day makes a decision which in this case supports an economic boost, it is nearly impossible to please everyone on both sides of the debate. I question how did the first pipeline ever get built?


David Amos
David Amos
@Michele McLean How many things do you enjoy that was produced from the stuff the pipelines move?

Methinks Canada should have used the CPP properties that we gave that questionable company 150 years ago N'esy Pas?



http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-april-16-2018-1.4621215/is-the-kinder-morgan-trans-mountain-pipeline-in-the-national-interest-1.4621220


Is the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline in the 'national interest?'



251 Comments


 Spencer McGregor 
Spencer McGregor
How will we meet our national commitment to the Paris climate agreement if we keep building new fossil fuel infrastructure? Hint: it's not possible... We have to get serious about reducing emissions and that means no new fossil fuel projects. If this pipeline is built it will be contributing to global warming for at least 40-50 years


Martin Batoche
Martin Batoche
@Spencer McGregor

On this site you may find science relegated to the "eco-fascist" slot by some pro-oil commenters. They are obviously defending their investment portfolios and employment, and can get very emotional when accusing anti-pipe protestors of acting on emotions. Some were even bused to a pro-pipe rally in Vancouver last month. They did make the news. All 200 of them.


David Amos
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David Amos
@Martin Batoche "On this site you may find science relegated to the "eco-fascist" slot by some pro-oil commenters."

Your comment begs the obvious question. Are you one of the "Eco Terrorists" that Harper lamented greatly about?


David Amos
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David Amos 
@David Amos "Content Disabled" ???

Oh MY Methinks I should quote an NDP lady/journlist who ran against Bill Morneau if CBC does not like me referring to Harper's malicious nonsense N'esy Pas?

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/2012/06/04/stephen_harper_government_turns_environmentalists_into_public_enemies.html

Stephen Harper government turns environmentalists into public enemies

Prime Minister uses the resources of the state to intimidate and silence critics.
By Linda McQuaigColumnist
Mon., June 4, 2012

"Now, with a majority government, Harper’s campaign to scuttle action on climate change has taken a more insidious turn, as he uses the resources of the state to intimidate and silence critics.

To this end, the government recently revised anti-terrorism legislation to add environmental groups as a potential threat. It’s also provided additional resources to government tax authorities to audit environmental charities. And it’s denounced environmentalists as “extremists” funded by “foreign money” — that is, money they receive from U.S. charitable foundations aiding their efforts to protect endangered ecosystems in Canada and elsewhere."

 
David Amos
David Amos
@Martin Batoche
"On this site you may find science relegated to the "eco-fascist" slot by some pro-oil commenters."

Methinks its rather interesting that CBC allows you to sling insults but blocks folks who respond to your comments N'esy Pas?


Donkelaar Dorine 
Donkelaar Dorine
Wow, Elizabeth May was very articulated, intelligent and outspoken. Wish she was our Premier.
Trudeau and Notley are using kids bullying techniques to intimidated BC. Very unfortunate.


donna gregoire
donna gregoire
@Jabir Noah ...caught her before happy hour did you?...

brian fowler
brian fowler
@donna gregoire lol

David Amos
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David Amos
@Jabir Noah Didn't I see something on CBC about bullying pertaining to your heroine?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/may-being-investigated-for-bullying-1.4509212

May being investigated for bullying
Posted: Jan 29, 2018 3:23 PM ET

David Amos
David Amos
@donna gregoire Can you think of an ethical reason why CBC would block a link to their own news article about Ms May?


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@donna gregoire "@Jabir Noah ...caught her before happy hour did you?.."

Methinks it the very questionable editing has something to do with Noah's comment going "Poof" as well N'esy Pas?


Wayne Coady 
Robert Williams
Elizabeth May was the only one of the three guests who actually understood the issue in depth. Both Jim Carr and Darren Bilous were certainly towing party lines and very loose with the rhetoric and facts.

The pipeline would not create tens of thousands of jobs as Bilous claimed, but rather thousands of short term construction jobs and less than one hundred permanent full time positions. Despite what Carr claimed on cleaning up dilbit in marine environments, there is not one peer-reviewed scientific study that shows that bitumen can in fact be cleaned up in marine environments.

Draw whatever conclusion you wish about the proposal itself, but do so on fact.

Here are a few other facts(not mentioned above) that often get overlooked:

1. The NEB process was incomplete and badly flawed, not considering many economic impacts, climate change, and didn't allow cross-examination of evidence.

2. Kinder Morgan would triple bitumen extraction and outsource emissions in the process. It would likely sabotage Canada's Paris commitments and make it nearly impossible to hold temperatures to 1.5 Degrees as McKenna actively campaigned for.

3. World demand for bitumen is predicted to decline as a result of cost and the availability of alternatives.

4. The southern resident orca population is at less than 80 individuals. Tanker traffic is one thing driving numbers down. Kinder Morgan could well drive the population to extinction.

5. Trudeau promised to redo the NEB hearing, admitting it was flawed. He still hasn't provided a legit assessment.

6. The First Nations legal rights in this situation are much stronger than many wish to acknowledge.

The discussion on 'national interest' needs to go well beyond short term construction jobs and government revenue.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Williams You ignored the obvious

"We ship 99 per cent of our resources to the U.S. and because of this, Canadians have subsidized Trump's America to the tune of $130 billion,"

Thanks to NAFTA we only get 2 thirds of the world price. If we get it to salt water everybody profits

 
David Amos
David Amos
@Dave Smith Who cares about the cost of bridges in BC? Methinks its far more important for Canada that we get a fair price for our natural resources instead of being screwed by Yankees and the NAFTA deal N'esy Pas?


Dan Rasmussen 
guy pope
Support B.C. in their right to ensure their lands remain environmentally protected.


Robert Williams
Robert Williams
@Bob Ols

Can you provide a link to a peer-reviewed scientific study that shows bitumen can be cleaend up in marine environments?

You may wish to check out the history of Kinder Morgan as well.

https://www.transmountain.com/spill-history

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Williams While you are at it why not review Elizabeth May's history as well?


Warren Stanley Pollock 
Warren Stanley Pollock
The Prime Minister will lose 18 seats in British Columbia and gain none from Alberta.


David Amos
David Amos
@Warren Stanley Pollock Methinks once Doug Ford gets a grip on Ontario and carbon taxation is off the table Trudeau The Younger" will no longer be PM after the next election N'esy Pas?


Dan Rasmussen 
Dave Axcel
I think Alberta should cut off all oil and gas to BC, as it's in Alberta's best interest. Let BC figure out there energy needs then, and what's in their best interests. Maybe we should do the same with power? The Kinder Morgan pipeline will have little to no environemental impact. These pipeline are built double walled, and have emergency shut down valves at regular intervals. They don't build pipeline like they did in the 60s and 70s.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Dave Axcel "I think Alberta should cut off all oil and gas to BC, as it's in Alberta's best interest. "

Methinks that appears to be a part of Notley's latest plan N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-oil-gas-producers-support-notley-government-bill-12-1.4622717

Notley's Bill 12 'shows bold leadership,' say Alberta oil and gas producers
Industry officials say it's unfortunate, but proposed law is necessary to protect Alberta's interests
Lucie Edwardson · CBC News · Posted: Apr 17, 2018 6:54 AM MT


Dan Rasmussen
Wayne Coady
Well if BC does not feel the need to have Alberta oil pass through their province then shut off the flow that now comes into BC. I also feel people like minded as Elizabeth May , should start walking instead of driving or flying , since they feel their is no need for oil products.


David Amos
David Amos
@Wayne Coady "I also feel people like minded as Elizabeth May , should start walking instead of driving or flying , since they feel their is no need for oil products."

Me Too


Dan Rasmussen 
james Mckenna
It is shameful how much misinformation Ms. May is spreading, or is she just that clueless?


David Amos
David Amos 
 @james Mckenna Ms May and her Green MLA are having their day in the sun making the NDP do their bidding for them.

My question is where is the not elected yet Federal NDP leader? Why doesn't that oh so clever lawyer iron the matter out within his own party instead of relying on Trudeau the Younger to paly hardball with them with out tax dollars?

Does anyone really think the Green Party MLA will withdraw their support of the NDP if the Pipeline went through? Methinks the Greens would fair much worse making a deal with the Liberal/Conservative party in BC In fact that is why they didn't. N'esy Pas?

  
Paul Hoffman
Dave Smith
Zero risk for investors, huge risk for residents along the coast. Thanks Trudeau for protecting the shareholders.


David Amos
David Amos
@Dave Smith FYI we are the stakeholders in the corporation known as "Canada" that files with the Yankee SEC

Hell even the Quebecois do

http://www.hydroquebec.com/relations-investisseurs/pdf/18K-2014.pdf

Methinks Trudeau "The Younger" is only our temporary CEO for about another year and a half N'esy Pas?

  
Dan Rasmussen
Alan Smith
As the world moves to reduce dependency on fossil fuel, we begin a largely publicly-funded odyssey to ship more fossil fuel - to where, in the end?


Martin Batoche
Martin Batoche
@Alan Smith

Proponents say Asia, which is supposed to be paying more than the U.S. for poor quality bitumen plans transoceanic shipping costs. But no one has published any pre-sale supply contract info yet to prove it. I suspect U.S. referees down the coast may be the real destination -- still at the good 'ol "discounted" price.


David Amos
David Amos
@Martin Batoche "I suspect U.S. referees down the coast may be the real destination -- still at the good 'ol "discounted" price."

So you say EH?


Dan Rasmussen 
Martin Batoche
The way the pipeline advocates are couching it, the entire Canadian economy, the Constitution and confederation itself depends on a single pipeline. That is not healthy.

 
David Amos
David Amos
@Martin Batoche "the entire Canadian economy, the Constitution and confederation itself depends on a single pipeline."

Perhaps it does

Methinks if you wish to argue our Constitution within a CBC comment section you should check my work in Federal Court N'esy Pas?


Dan Rasmussen 
Martin Batoche
The world is moving incrementally and inexorably away from fossil fuels. The next decade will be a time of strong transition, with carbon headed into a steep decline by mid-century. Meanwhile, Alberta, backed by Canada, is pushing pipelines and risking a $150 billion coastal economy created by 3 1/2 million people. And it's being done to meet Canada's climate change initiatives.

Welcome to a very strange confederation.


Dan Rasmussen
Martin Batoche
@Todd Bonnes

Clearly you know very little about the south coast of BC, either the economy or ecosystems. BC exports mainly steel-making coal. Do you have issues with steel, other than it's not made in the West (I'd agree with that)? Thermal coal is the minority, and a lot comes from Wyoming thanks to Trudeau's Port of Vancouver export permits that generate a whopping 25 jobs.

By comparison the cruise ship industry generates $2 billion in just 6 months and moves 900,000 visitors. The film industry and non-cruise tourism generates $5 billion a year. Marine-based services, ferries and so forth generate another billion, and fishing yet another billion.

Then you've got multiple billions in all the non-fossil fuel shipments such as containers, grain, potash, lumber, manufactured goods and so on.

ALL of these plus hundreds of billions in the Washington state economy to Seattle will be greatly impacted by even a medium-sized bitumen spill.

David Amos
David Amos
@Martin Batoche Methinks all these industries you boast about rely on oil in order to do business in BC and around the world as well N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos 
 @Martin Batoche "Welcome to a very strange confederation."

Indeed it is. Do you think the Charter is a legal document in light of the fact that Quebec never signed on?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-trans-mountain-1.4620672

Why Quebec waded into the Trans Mountain pipeline spat
It's likely few out West appreciate Quebec's thoughts on the pipeline, but Couillard weighed in anyway
Jonathan Montpetit · CBC News · Posted: Apr 15, 2018 7:10 PM ET

"Betting on cooperative federalism

But Couillard's reproaches this week are about more than dodging a bullet. His government has invested significant time, and some money, into trying to develop a new dynamic for Quebec within the federation.

Last year, it released an ambitious proposal to revisit elements of the Constitution, hoping to lay the groundwork for someday — maybe, possibly — having Quebec finally sign on.

Trudeau trashed the idea before having read the 200-page document, perhaps envisioning another Meech Lake or Charlottetown."
  
Martin Batoche
Dave Smith
If anywhere near 50% of Canada is against this project it’s definitely not in the national interest. More like Trudeau’s interest.


Martin Batoche
Martin Batoche
@Dave Smith

I'd say more in Alberta's interests. I don't think Trudeau would recognize a project truly in the national interest if it was laid out before him on a red carpet. A national smart grid for transporting inter-provincial and exportable clean, renewable electricity comes to mind.


David Amos
David Amos
@Martin Batoche "A national smart grid for transporting inter-provincial and exportable clean, renewable electricity comes to mind."

Perhaps you should also check my work within the NBEUB hearings?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-eub-rate-hearing-1.4622615

Rate hearing delays prove costly for NB Power
Utility says it's losing about $400,000 with each passing week
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Apr 17, 2018 4:00 AM AT

Martin Batoche
Martin Batoche
There have been many news stories published on the shift to alternatives to oil. Several large nations representing over 1.5 billion people are enacting policies over the next decade to decarbonize their economies. Part of that includes restricting internal combustion engines where the majority of Alberta's bitumen goes. Toyota, GM, Volkswagen and a number of other major car manufacturers are tooling up for a major increase in the production of electric and hybrid vehicles. Chances are this revolution will be well underway when / if the proposed Trans Mountain pipe reaches the coast. This is not a case of bad timing. It is willful ignorance.

David Amos
David Amos
@Martin Batoche Have you ever considered how much oil is consumed in the production of such things and the shipping of them etc etc
Dan LaRiviere 
Dan LaRiviere
Exporting this raw resource is actually shipping away future jobs for Albertans. They could refine the raw resource in Alberta and extract more value from each barrel. The desire to export the resource is simply and mainly a desire for more short term profit for Kinder Morgan. So the pipeline is mainly in the interest of Kinder Morgan.

On the other hand, the liabilities are going to belong to the Canadian taxpayers, and BC will face the most risk. Yet, Trudeau wants to reduce the risk even further for Kinder Morgan.

It is clearly not in the interest of oil corporations to promote a reduction in fossil fuel. They are primarily interested in profits in the next quarter, and so on. Wise stewardship of the remaining non-sustainable fossil fuels would include a steady reduction in its use, conservation of in situ resources, development of alternatives and serious energy efficiency improvements in transportation and building construction. By always playing to the benefit of corporations, we are deferring serious action on these fronts to future generations to deal with, and the level of difficulty will only increase.

Martin Batoche
Martin Batoche
@Dan LaRiviere

Well said. Pipeline advocates tend to deflect dialogue about economic diversification and creating new opportunities around renewables and the evidence-based science of climate-related thermodynamics into pejoratives like "eco-fascism." Limiting the dialogue to political theatre helps their case.


Martin Batoche
Martin Batoche
@Walter Winchell

The pipe is in the interests of Alberta. BC has been a net contributor to transfer payments for 40 years, as has Sask. Alberta is not the centre of the universe. Gawd, if it was there would be only two kinds of music left: Country and Western. And I say that as an ex-Albertan.

Martin Batoche
Martin Batoche
@Blot Smail

No. They have analyzed it and prefer to rely on their own refineries in the U.S. Koch Industries leads the way in that thinking. Oh Canada.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Martin Batoche "in the U.S. Koch Industries leads the way in that thinking. Oh Canada"

Meanwhile people financed by George Soros protest everything including Iggy Correct?

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-tuesday-edition-1.4065793/ignatieff-says-hungary-s-pm-hijacked-his-university-to-settle-score-with-billionaire-george-soros-1.4066253

Ignatieff says Hungary's PM 'hijacked' his university to settle score with billionaire George Soros
'We've been hijacked:' Ignatieff says Hungary's PM targeted his university to settle a score with billionaire
CBC News · April 11, 2017 


Denny Hamilton 
Denny Hamilton
"We're now working out ways with Kinder Morgan to determine the kind of financial risk that they will tolerate because we think that this sends a very important message to investors."

I wonder how much money Canadian taxpayers will have to subsidize Kinder Morgan in order to send such an important message to investors?


David Amos
David Amos
@Denny Hamilton "I wonder how much money Canadian taxpayers will have to subsidize Kinder Morgan in order to send such an important message to investors?"

Me Too


Wayne Coady
Peter Kay
What a cross of BS. In the national interest only pertains to ensuring corporate greed stays strong enough to pay the pockets of the politicians and the lobbyists. Why the hell should the taxpayers pay anything for a foreign owned business to come in take what is ours? What ever happened to "Being Canadian", not some puppet of a foreign multi-national? Tell Kinder Morgan to go to hell!!!!!


David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Kay I second your indignation Sir


Wayne Coady
Donald Simpson
Well, its a little rich of BC telling us what to do and that they and only they are the stewards of the environment. Funny how they forget to mention they ship from the Ports in Vancouver, between 80,000 and 90,000 tons of coal a day. What a bunch of hypocrites


greed excessive
greed excessive
@Donald Simpson Let's get out our measuring sticks Donald. Where do you think change starts? By comparing to what we are doing currently? By listening to those who are only interested in profit? Don't be naive. We need the oil for those plastic keys you are typing on, we need it to develop technologies for less reliance on oil as a fuel. We don't need it so the rich can add a boat to the driveway.

This pipeline is strictly about money to the stakeholders, if was about the people of Canada, we would be investing in Canada, in refining here, in tech companies that use the oil as a material for advanced materials. Not sending it over the waters because it is the way to make the maximum profit with the least investment.

USE YOUR BRAIN.

Stephen Pesachen
Stephen Pesachen
@greed excessive Last I heard there are royalties on oil production - which means there's less pressure to tax the already over-burdened and overtaxed people of Canada if oil is shipped.

New technologies will develop regardless. And the long term solution has nothing to do whether oil is produced or not - it's the reduction of the world's population to about four billion. Which can be done if people are convinced that smaller families are A-OK.

greed excessive
greed excessive
@Stephen Pesachen You don't understand or have not researched enough to make a statement like, "New technologies will develop regardless". This development is not happening fast enough when the money from profits go to CEOs or tax benefits. You do not see an absolute hypocrisy of Albertans who pay substantially less tax, why is BC not paying at the same level?

British Columbia, we are the one's with the most to lose. We are the one's being threatened with huge gas hikes, we are the one's with the potential scars on the land and shoreline, we are the one's who respect Aboriginal rights. What does Alberta have to lose? Tax relief? Bigger trucks? Their land is pre-scarred, it's already an oil slick.

The current pipeline is more then enough to start reinvesting in Canada through jobs and innovation, not cash. Trying to get people like you to really look and understand reality is starting to get frustrating. Please PLEASE PLEASE, educate yourself. Look at the real information not the dribble and dramatic rhetoric from arm-chair economists like Notely or Trudeau.

David Amos
David Amos @greed excessive Well I used my "BRAIN" read it all and I agree with

Mr Simpson

"Well, its a little rich of BC telling us what to do and that they and only they are the stewards of the environment. Funny how they forget to mention they ship from the Ports in Vancouver, between 80,000 and 90,000 tons of coal a day. What a bunch of hypocrites"

and

Mr Pesachen

"Last I heard there are royalties on oil production - which means there's less pressure to tax the already over-burdened and overtaxed people of Canada if oil is shipped."

Perhaps you should read something about BC in CBC too?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-mine-to-hire-only-chinese-temporary-workers-for-years-1.1144647

B.C. mine to hire only Chinese temporary workers for years
HD Mining plans to start hiring Canadians after 4 years
CBC News · Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:30 AM PT

Did they?

Wayne Coady  
Daryl McBride
Hey Elizabeth May, delaying this Pipeline is already costing jobs and effecting investment in Canada. Enough with the, what if the plane crashes mentality.


Wayne Coady
Wayne Coady
@Daryl McBride She is working and the taxpayers are paying her...that is all that matters to her.

David Amos
David Amos
@Wayne Coady YUP


Wayne Coady  
Susan Boyd
"We're now working out ways with Kinder Morgan to determine the kind of financial risk that they will tolerate because we think that this sends a very important message to investors."

A very important message indeed!
If you are a very wealthy conglomerate, you can blackmail the Canadian Government into using Canadian taxpayers money on something many of us oppose vehemently, and there is nothing we can do about it.
Clever, Kinder Morgan. Stupid cynical and short-sighted Mr. Trudeau.
And no, Jim Carr, the government has not addressed environmental concerns, the current plan for recovery from spills is not effective, and nothing has been done to improve it.


donna gregoire
donna gregoire
@Susan Boyd ... the word black mail is correct but you have the parties reversed...


David Amos
David Amos
@donna gregoire I agree


Bob Ols
guy pope
Major mistake to favour a U.S conglomerate v.s a province.

I am surprised.


Bob Ols
Bob Ols
@guy pope

They are actually favoring Canadian workers, so leave the rhetoric aside.

David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Ols Methinks Trudeau "The Younger" is spending our money protecting his interest in getting reelected in 2019 N'esy Pas?.


Dan Rasmussen
Danny Benn
The NDP are only fighting this so they can stay in power with the Greens help. Greens have them by the shorts. LOL Lets get that pipe built and then get a new election going.


Doreen Rasanen
Doreen Rasanen
@Danny Benn THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF MONEY AND POLITICS, IT IS A MATTER OF
SAVING CANADA FROM A MAJOR DESTRUCTION FROM STUPID THINKING AND DOING.

David Amos
David Amos
@Doreen Rasanen No doubt much to your chagrin as you holler at the rest of u by capitalizing on the fonts syou should know that I agree with with Mr Benn

"The NDP are only fighting this so they can stay in power with the Greens help"

Methinks I should inform you and an old Maritime saying that no doubt more generate more capital letters N'esy Pas?

"Everything is political and its always about the money"


Warren Stanley Pollock 
Warren Stanley Pollock
Foreign entities own greater that 50% of Canada's energy sector. The real amount is so embarrassingly high that the federal government will not generate a proper number. The Kinder Morgan deal is just one more of those in the hunt to for a bigger slice of the Canadian pie. Why give it to them? The future of British Columbians centers around keeping an ultra clean environment for purposes of tourism, the attraction of non-polluting industries and electrical energy supply.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Warren Stanley Pollock I believe nearly all of our oil interests are foreign owned

Never forget Harper allowed Nexen to be sold to the Chinese and not long afterwards his Maritime buddy Kevin Lynch quit his fancy job as Clerk of the Privy Council Office to become a director of BMO and an independent director of the the Chinese Oil company that bought Nexen.

Methinks Gerald Butts Trudeau "The Younger's" Maritime advisor knows this as well as I N'esy Pas?

The Honourable Kevin G. Lynch, P.C., O.C., PH. D, LL.D
Vice-Chair, BMO Financial Group

https://www.bmo.com/home/about/banking/corporate-information/executive-bios/kevin-lynch

Need I remind folks that everything is political and its always about the money?

Is the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline in the 'national interest?'


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/special-prosecutors-to-handle-federal-mps-cases-after-anti-pipeline-protest-arrests-1.4621340


Special prosecutors to handle federal MPs' cases after anti-pipeline protest arrests

Crown prosecutors agree to take on proceedings against nearly 2 dozen anti-pipeline protesters in B.C.


Green Party Leader Elizabeth May was arrested March 23 at a protest against Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project. (Rafferty Baker/CBC)

Crown prosecutors have agreed to take on proceedings against nearly two dozen anti-pipeline protesters in B.C., including those of federal MPs Elizabeth May and Kennedy Stewart.
In particular, special prosecutors are being brought in to determine whether or not the politicians will be charged criminally.

On Monday, the prosecution service issued a statement saying it was "in the public interest" to appoint special prosecutors to the cases.

May, Stewart and the other protesters first appeared in court on charges of civil contempt last week. They were accused of violating a court order to stay five metres back from the Trans Mountain pipeline construction site on Burnaby Mountain.

At the hearing, the judge recommended the protesters be prosecuted by the Crown, rather than in civil court as part of a lawsuit from Kinder Morgan.
Stewart, MP for Burnaby South, was in court for the decision on Monday. The first two rows of seating in the courtroom were filled with others who'd also been arrested and charged.

May spoke to reporters from the House of Commons in Ottawa after the Crown announced its decision, saying she wasn't at liberty to comment on the news. She did, however, reiterate her opposition to the project.

More arrests


Five more protesters were arrested at one of Kinder Morgan's worksites in Burnaby over the weekend, bringing the total number of people arrested in the past month to around 200. Around 170 have been charged with civil contempt.

On Sunday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley and B.C. Premier John Horgan met for a last-minute summit in Ottawa to disucss the future of the project as the provinces continue to bicker.
Trudeau, who called the impromptu meeting in between a flurry of official overseas trips, said his government has the authority to ensure the Trans Mountain pipeline is built and would take the financial and legislative actions needed to make it happen.

He said he called the summit with the battling premiers to "come together" for a project that he said is in the national interest.




Pipeline protesters including MPs Elizabeth May, Kennedy Stewart should face criminal charge: judge

Green Party leader, NDP MP appeared in court Monday after arrest for civil contempt

Rhianna Schmunk · CBC News · Posted: Apr 09, 2018 12:00 PM PT


Green Party Leader Elizabeth May was arrested at a protest against Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project on March 23. (Rafferty Baker/CBC)


A B.C. provincial court judge has recommended that protesters arrested at demonstrations against the Trans Mountain pipeline project — including two federal politicians — be prosecuted criminally, rather than in civil court.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May and NDP MP Kennedy Stewart were among a dozen protesters who appeared in court on Monday on charges of civil contempt.

The politicians were arrested after joining a demonstration against Kinder Morgan's expansion project in Burnaby, B.C., on March 23.

They blocked the road, violating a court order to stay five metres back from company work sites.


Federal Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, centre, lined up with other protesters against a gate at a Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline worksite in Burnaby, B.C. on Friday — violating a court-ordered injunction to stay away from the company properties. (Rafferty Baker/CBC)
Civil contempt is not a criminal offence.

However, on Monday, a B.C. Supreme Court judge recommended the charge be changed to criminal contempt rather than civil, as the alleged contempt was against a court-ordered ban and not Kinder Morgan.

The case has been adjourned for a week while the attorney general's office decides whether or not it will take over.


Speaking cheerily outside court after her appearance, May said she wouldn't be commenting on what happened in the courtroom nor on the charges against her "out of respect" for the court process.

She did, however, reiterate her opposition to the project.

"We have a strong, factual case that this project is not in the national interest," she said. "British Columbians are not selfishly holding up something that would help all of Canada."


Federal Green Party Leader Elizabeth May spoke to reporters after leaving B.C. Supreme Court on Monday. (CBC)
Stewart, MP for Burnaby South, said he was proud of the protests that have happened in the city, touting that one of them may have been the largest in its history.

"Those are the real numbers that matter," he said.


NDP MP Kennedy Stewart also appeared in court on Monday. (CBC)

Dozens arrested at protests


Thousands of protesters rallied against the $7.4-billion project at Kinder Morgan's Westridge Marine and Burnaby terminals over the month of March, according to RCMP.

Counting the politicians, more than 170 people were arrested for violating the court order within a week.

Activists had planned to continue daily protests until March 26, the environmental deadline for the company to finish clearing nearby trees before migratory birds began nesting.


Thousands of people marched during a protest against Kinder Morgan's $7.4-billion Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project in Burnaby, B.C., on March 10. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
Workers were said to have finished that job on time. However Kinder Morgan announced Sunday that it would be suspending non-essential spending on the project — a move that opponents in British Columbia say throws the future of the project into doubt.

The company said its decision was largely based on the B.C. government's legal challenges to the pipeline and the need to protect its shareholders. The deadline to reach agreements with its stakeholders on how to proceed is set for May 31.

The next court appearance for May, Stewart and around 25 other protesters is set for Monday.
 

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