David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks everybody said enough about the Tar Sands so I made 3 comments and let it go Sometimes less is more N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/11/methinks-everybody-said-enough-about.html
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/11/methinks-everybody-said-enough-about.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/canadian-oil-price-discounts-impact-1.4901147
Economic cost of Canadian oil price discounts counted in billions of dollars
The impact was estimated as high as $13 billion Cdn so far in 2018
Imagine producing a bumper crop of a
product in high demand around the globe, only to learn you must settle
for a discounted price because there's no easy way to get your product
to market.
Canadian grain farmers experienced that situation in 2013 and again last winter when their harvest outstripped the transport capacity of Canada's rail companies. Western Canada's oil companies are now in the same boat thanks to production gains that have not been matched by export pipeline capacity gains.
Like those farmers, oil producers have filled storage to bursting while they wait for a solution to appear. The price discounts or "differentials" that had mainly affected heavy oil have spread to light oil and upgraded synthetic oilsands crude as pipeline space tightens.
Estimates on the cost to the economy vary wildly, but the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers officially estimates the impact as at least C$13 billion in the first 10 months of 2018.
It estimates the cost at about $50 million Cdn per day in October as discounts for Western Canadian Select bitumen-blend crude oil versus New York-traded West Texas Intermediate peaked at more than $52 US per barrel.
"The differential has blown out to such an extreme level for two reasons, the lack of access to markets and the fact we really have only one customer (the United States)," said Tim McMillan, CEO of CAPP.
Getting an exact number on how much discounts are costing Canada is all but impossible thanks to ingrained sector secrecy about transportation and marketing, he said, adding it's entirely possible the real costs could be as high as $100 billion per year.
Calgary-based Imperial Oil Ltd., for instance, says about one-quarter of its output of 300,000 barrels of bitumen per day is influenced by WCS pricing — the rest is used in its Canadian refineries or shipped by pipe or rail to the U.S. Gulf Coast where it gets close to WTI prices.
The company announced last week it will build a 75,000-bpd oilsands project, going on faith that pipelines will be in place for when production begins in about four years (a prospect that took a hit Thursday when a U.S. judge put TransCanada Corp.'s Keystone XL pipeline on hold until more environmental study is done).
Meanwhile, it is ramping up rail shipments from its co-owned Edmonton terminal as fast as it can.
Other oilsands producers including Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. and Cenovus Energy Inc. are cutting production to avoid selling at current prices.
The industry's problems receive little sympathy from environmentalists like Keith Stewart of Greenpeace.
"The root of the problem is that companies kept expanding production even when they knew there was no new transport," he said.
But McMillan pointed out it takes years to plan, win regulatory approval and build projects.
For example, producers would have had no way of knowing ahead of time that the 525,000-barrel-per-day Northern Gateway pipeline project approved in 2014 by a Conservative government would then be rejected by a Liberal government in 2016, he said.
"If Northern Gateway had come on as planned, we wouldn't be in this situation," said McMillan.
In a report last February, Scotiabank analysts estimated the differential would shave $15.6 billion Cdn in revenue annually, with a quick ramp up in crude-by-rail expected to shrink the hit to $10.8 billion Cdn by the fall.
At that time, discounts had widened to about $30 US per barrel from an average of around $13 US in the previous two years.
A depot used to store pipes for the planned Keystone XL pipeline is seen in Gascoyne, North Dakota, in 2017. (Terray Sylvester/Reuters)
Crude-by-rail shipments increased to a record 230,000 bpd in August but haven't reduced the differential.
According to Calgary-based Net Energy, the WCS-WTI differential averaged $45.48 US per barrel in October and has averaged $43.75 US so far in November.
In an analysis last March, Kent Fellows, research associate at the School of Public Policy at the University of Calgary, estimated the differential would translate into a $13-billion economic loss if it persisted for a year — $7.2 billion to the Alberta government, $5.3 billion to industry and $800 million to the federal government.
The differential has gotten much worse, he said in an interview this week, which means the lost opportunity is proportionately worse.
Higher differentials hit provincial governments in the form of lower-than-expected royalties — their cut of every barrel produced from land where mineral rights are Crown owned — while the federal government will see lower corporate income taxes, Fellows said.
"If this keeps up and we start to see either a lack of growth or more shutting in some of this production ... you're losing jobs and even personal income tax as well," he said.
The Alberta government estimates that every annual average $1 increase in the WCS-WTI differential above $22.40 US per barrel costs its treasury $210 million Cdn.
In Saskatchewan, Western Canada's other major oil-producing province, each $1 change in the differential is equivalent to about $15 million in revenue, based on an assumed WTI price of $58 US per barrel, the government says.
Finance Minister Donna Harpauer said in an interview that if current discounts continued for a year, the Saskatchewan industry's lost revenue would be about $7.4 billion Cdn.
Part of the reason WCS discounts were wider in October is that WTI, which opened the year at $60.37 US per barrel, jumped to more than $76 US. Producers exposed to WCS didn't get the benefit of the higher U.S. oil prices.
McMillan said the differentials are being noticed by potential energy investors — CAPP expects capital investment of $42 billion in the Canadian oilpatch in 2018, down from $81 billion in 2014.
"We're losing hundreds of millions of dollars that's going to subsidize drivers in the United States."
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesCanadian grain farmers experienced that situation in 2013 and again last winter when their harvest outstripped the transport capacity of Canada's rail companies. Western Canada's oil companies are now in the same boat thanks to production gains that have not been matched by export pipeline capacity gains.
Like those farmers, oil producers have filled storage to bursting while they wait for a solution to appear. The price discounts or "differentials" that had mainly affected heavy oil have spread to light oil and upgraded synthetic oilsands crude as pipeline space tightens.
Estimates on the cost to the economy vary wildly, but the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers officially estimates the impact as at least C$13 billion in the first 10 months of 2018.
$50 million cost per day
It estimates the cost at about $50 million Cdn per day in October as discounts for Western Canadian Select bitumen-blend crude oil versus New York-traded West Texas Intermediate peaked at more than $52 US per barrel.
"The differential has blown out to such an extreme level for two reasons, the lack of access to markets and the fact we really have only one customer (the United States)," said Tim McMillan, CEO of CAPP.
Getting an exact number on how much discounts are costing Canada is all but impossible thanks to ingrained sector secrecy about transportation and marketing, he said, adding it's entirely possible the real costs could be as high as $100 billion per year.
We're losing hundreds of millions of dollars that's going to subsidize drivers in the United States.-Tim McMillan , CEO of CAPPProducers' exposure to WCS prices differ depending on what kind of oil they produce, where they sell it and how they transport it.
Calgary-based Imperial Oil Ltd., for instance, says about one-quarter of its output of 300,000 barrels of bitumen per day is influenced by WCS pricing — the rest is used in its Canadian refineries or shipped by pipe or rail to the U.S. Gulf Coast where it gets close to WTI prices.
The company announced last week it will build a 75,000-bpd oilsands project, going on faith that pipelines will be in place for when production begins in about four years (a prospect that took a hit Thursday when a U.S. judge put TransCanada Corp.'s Keystone XL pipeline on hold until more environmental study is done).
Meanwhile, it is ramping up rail shipments from its co-owned Edmonton terminal as fast as it can.
Other oilsands producers including Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. and Cenovus Energy Inc. are cutting production to avoid selling at current prices.
The industry's problems receive little sympathy from environmentalists like Keith Stewart of Greenpeace.
"The root of the problem is that companies kept expanding production even when they knew there was no new transport," he said.
But McMillan pointed out it takes years to plan, win regulatory approval and build projects.
For example, producers would have had no way of knowing ahead of time that the 525,000-barrel-per-day Northern Gateway pipeline project approved in 2014 by a Conservative government would then be rejected by a Liberal government in 2016, he said.
"If Northern Gateway had come on as planned, we wouldn't be in this situation," said McMillan.
In a report last February, Scotiabank analysts estimated the differential would shave $15.6 billion Cdn in revenue annually, with a quick ramp up in crude-by-rail expected to shrink the hit to $10.8 billion Cdn by the fall.
At that time, discounts had widened to about $30 US per barrel from an average of around $13 US in the previous two years.
According to Calgary-based Net Energy, the WCS-WTI differential averaged $45.48 US per barrel in October and has averaged $43.75 US so far in November.
In an analysis last March, Kent Fellows, research associate at the School of Public Policy at the University of Calgary, estimated the differential would translate into a $13-billion economic loss if it persisted for a year — $7.2 billion to the Alberta government, $5.3 billion to industry and $800 million to the federal government.
The differential has gotten much worse, he said in an interview this week, which means the lost opportunity is proportionately worse.
Higher differentials hit provincial governments in the form of lower-than-expected royalties — their cut of every barrel produced from land where mineral rights are Crown owned — while the federal government will see lower corporate income taxes, Fellows said.
"If this keeps up and we start to see either a lack of growth or more shutting in some of this production ... you're losing jobs and even personal income tax as well," he said.
The Alberta government estimates that every annual average $1 increase in the WCS-WTI differential above $22.40 US per barrel costs its treasury $210 million Cdn.
In Saskatchewan, Western Canada's other major oil-producing province, each $1 change in the differential is equivalent to about $15 million in revenue, based on an assumed WTI price of $58 US per barrel, the government says.
Finance Minister Donna Harpauer said in an interview that if current discounts continued for a year, the Saskatchewan industry's lost revenue would be about $7.4 billion Cdn.
Part of the reason WCS discounts were wider in October is that WTI, which opened the year at $60.37 US per barrel, jumped to more than $76 US. Producers exposed to WCS didn't get the benefit of the higher U.S. oil prices.
McMillan said the differentials are being noticed by potential energy investors — CAPP expects capital investment of $42 billion in the Canadian oilpatch in 2018, down from $81 billion in 2014.
"We're losing hundreds of millions of dollars that's going to subsidize drivers in the United States."
Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
Tuomo Taivainen
So, why dont we build more refineries and just use the product here?
Riley Mitchell
@Tuomo Taivainen
That would be way too forward thinking
That would be way too forward thinking
David Amos
@Riley Mitchell YUP
Al Millar
@Tuomo Taivainen : agreed ,
produce a safer produce that all of Canada can use , but CAPP likes
importing " Blood " oil , as the Tar Sanders call it .
Riley Mitchell
@Tuomo Taivainen
Thing is - we can’t even get a pipeline in this country, how will all the snow flakes let us build a refinery?
Thing is - we can’t even get a pipeline in this country, how will all the snow flakes let us build a refinery?
Henri Bianchi
@Tuomo Taivainen
Does not solve the transportation problem.
Does not solve the transportation problem.
Bob Holgate
@Tuomo Taivainen This is
why.Read it below.We have no way to get the product from existing
refinerys.Gas go's stale in a month and China wants oil.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/tristin-hopper-why-canada-shouldnt-refine-the-oil-it-exports
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/tristin-hopper-why-canada-shouldnt-refine-the-oil-it-exports
David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/chinese-firms-and-indigenous-groups-propose-major-new-refinery-in-alberta
I have been casting spells for many years and I have helped many people, I might be able to help you too. I am honest, and I genuinely care for all the clients who choose me to cast a spell for them.
ReplyDeleteIf you have any questions about Love, Money, curse, protection, bad luck, divorce, court cases, or about me please call or email me. I really want you to feel comfortable before moving forward with any spells, or other services. I will take the time to explain things to you and provide you with honest advice, to what is best for your situation. I will not pressure you into having a spell cast, I will leave that decision up to you, and when or if you decide to move forward, I might be able to help you.
I will respect your Privacy. I will not seek to obtain any of your personal information beyond what you might voluntarily offer and all information you might give me including emails, phone numbers and photos will remain private and confidential.
I perform my Rituals only at night between the hours of 0.00 - 0.59 (South African time) lasting 1 hour but of course, this depends on the nature of the ritual, some rituals might take hours and can also become necessary to be performed at specials places like; flowing streams, cemeteries and other places dictated by the gods.
I do not want anyone to be under any illusions about my spells and its numerous rituals. Real and effective Voodoo is no child's play, it is expensive because, after the rituals, I will have to destroy all the materials involved by fire and the ashes scattered over a flowing stream or river.
You will get what you seek.But please understand this might take a lot of time and that individual results may vary. contact +27663492930, greatogudugu@gmail.com
Herbal cure for Following DISEASES,this is not scam is 100% Real.
-HPV
-DIABETES
-PENIS ENLARGEMENT AND WEAK ERECTION
-VIRGINA PROBLEM
-WHOOPING COUGH
- HEPATITIS B
-FORDYCE SPOT
-COLD SORE
-ALS
-LOWER RESPIRATORY INFECTION
-LOW SPERM COUNT
-MRSA(METHICILLIN-RESISTANT STAPHYLOCOCCUS AUREUS
-ZIKA VIRUS
-HIV
-STROKE
-IMPOTENCE
-PILE
-HYPERTENSION
-LOW SPERM COUNT
-MENOPAUSE DISEASE
-ASTHMA
-CANCER
-BARENESS/INFERTILITY
-PCOS
-SHINGLES
-VIRAL HEPATITIS/HEPATITIS B
-FIBROID
-ASTHMA
-SICKLE CELL
-TINNITUS
-BARENESS/INFERTILITY
-DIARRHEA and so on...