For the record I called Pierre-Yves Bourduason his cell this morning and he did not pickup so I left a voicemail He called back immediately However the instant he laughed at my concerns about his integrity we were all done talking for obvious reasons.
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:43:26 -0400
Subject: Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom
I have dealt with since 1982 know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks the ex cop Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have
dealt with know what a joke this is to me Anyone Google Giuliano
Zaccardelli and David Amos N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-allowed-to-break-law-tunney-1.4914893
RCMP officers given permission to break the law a record 73 times in 2017, report shows
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As a lifelong Canadian, when I
think of public institutions or Canadian icons that have fallen the
farthest in image in my lifetime, the RCMP are right near the top.
@Lee Hall
CBC?
CBC?
@Lee Hall Barn burnings,
blame it on FLQ. Illegal spying on innocent Canadians because they
don't like their left leaning political views. Shooting sled dogs so
people will move to government towns.
The list is long. Crushing union strikes by killing striking workers, not for illegal acts but just to crush the strikes. They have done nothing to improve themselves.
They have fallen the furthest of any Canadian public institution.
The list is long. Crushing union strikes by killing striking workers, not for illegal acts but just to crush the strikes. They have done nothing to improve themselves.
They have fallen the furthest of any Canadian public institution.
@JEFF Smyth I agree
@Dawn Lewis Methinks it was very evil what they did to Louis Riel N'esy Pas?
Neil Austen
I have no faith with Canadian
police to do their jobs competently and without corruption. When your
police departments are committing the worse crimes they are supposed to
be preventing and when caught are given a paid vacation (paid
suspension ) and then just a slap on the wrist when the media moves on,
you know something us seriously wrong.
Ken Irwin
@Neil Austen
Just think of what we do not know went on in the RCMP with Zachredelli (fake Goodale accusations, single cop cars, pension fraud) and Harper with several fake accusations and false flags for the profit of a few!?
Just think of what we do not know went on in the RCMP with Zachredelli (fake Goodale accusations, single cop cars, pension fraud) and Harper with several fake accusations and false flags for the profit of a few!?
Andrew Hebda (NS)
@david mccaig
Stick to the facts Neil. The Quebec burning of the barn was because the police did not feel they would be able to "bug" the building adequately to capture what was going to be discussed . The barn was burned in order to force the meeting to another location... which is what happened... and indeed, contrary to what you indicate, A LOT HAPPENED, including the defusing of the issue, freeing of the British diplomat and the arrest of the perpetrators...
Stick to the facts Neil. The Quebec burning of the barn was because the police did not feel they would be able to "bug" the building adequately to capture what was going to be discussed . The barn was burned in order to force the meeting to another location... which is what happened... and indeed, contrary to what you indicate, A LOT HAPPENED, including the defusing of the issue, freeing of the British diplomat and the arrest of the perpetrators...
@Neil Austen "Under the law,
which was introduced in 2002 after a Supreme Court case, officers are
never allowed to cause bodily harm, sexually violate another person or
obstruct justice, and an annual report summarizing the crimes has to be
tabled in the House of Commons."
Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982 know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982 know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
Content disabled.
@Ken Irwin "Just think of what we do not know went on in the RCMP with Zachredelli"
Methinks everybody in the know knows about me versus Giuliano “Zack” Zaccardelli presently the Director of Strategic Planning for INTERPOL N'esy Pas?
Here is an old blog I created in 2006 when the corrupt cop tried to make a deal with me
https://davidamos.blogspot.com/
Methinks everybody in the know knows about me versus Giuliano “Zack” Zaccardelli presently the Director of Strategic Planning for INTERPOL N'esy Pas?
Here is an old blog I created in 2006 when the corrupt cop tried to make a deal with me
https://davidamos.blogspot.com/
@David Amos Why Is it I am not surprised to see the proof of what I say is true blocked?
David Amos
@Ken Irwin "Just think of what we do not know went on in the RCMP with Zachredelli"
Methinks you and many others may enjoy Googling the following two names N'esy Pas?
Giuliano Zaccardelli David Amos
Methinks you and many others may enjoy Googling the following two names N'esy Pas?
Giuliano Zaccardelli David Amos
Content disabled.
@Andrew Hebda (NS) "Stick to the facts "
Methinks you know I stick to the facts but you ignore anyway N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/
Methinks I would enjoy seeing a little Integrity from CBC and former
top cops N'esy Pas?
https://www.pysafety.ca/index.
Pierre-Yves Bourduas is the President of P-Y Public Safety Management Inc., an Ottawa-based
firm specializing in strategic management, and talent development. Mr. Bourduas’ professional
experience is anchored in over 33 years as a member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police
where he gained valuable experience from a wide variety of operational
and administrative experience.
As Deputy Commissioner of the RCMP he provided strategic direction and cogent policy advice concerning a complex variety of national and international law enforcement and national security
issues to Ministers, Deputy Ministers and senior officials representing federal, provincial and international governments and their related law enforcement agencies.
Over the past seven years he expanded his professional horizon as advisor to private and public organizations He is also a member of the external audit committee at Canada Border Services
Agency. His educational background complements his professional credential and experience: he
holds a Masters of Arts in Leadership from Royal Roads University.
Mr. Bourduas is widely sought after by the media as a subject matter expert for national policing
and public safety events. He is a keynote speaker and facilitator at the US-Canada Border
Conference and is frequently asked to participate in panel discussion and facilitate learning
sessions.
We will be more than happy to discuss your needs
Contact:
Pierre-Yves (P-Y) Bourduas, President
Office: (613) 821-397
Mobile: (613) 697-3973
py@pysafety.ca
https://davidraymondamos3.
Tuesday, 20 November 2018
I read the news today about the RCMP lawsuits and just shook my head
at the malicious nonsense but when Guy Versailles laughed at me I got
truly pissed off
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Hon.Ralph.Goodale (PS/SP)" <Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:02:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I read the news today about the RCMP lawsuits and just shook my
head at the malicious nonsense but when Guy Versailles laughed at me I got truly pissed off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Merci d'avoir ?crit ? l'honorable Ralph Goodale, ministre de la
S?curit? publique et de la Protection civile.
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On 11/20/18, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> RCMP's sexual harassment suit bigger and more expensive than predicted
>
> Mounties expected 1,000 claims in Merlo-Davidson settlement — so far,
> they've got 3,131
> Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Nov 20, 2018 4:00 AM ET
>
>
> "Guy Versailles, a spokesperson for the assessor's office, said the
> office isn't ready to provide a breakdown of how many claimants have
> been assessed at each level so far.
>
> "We do not give numbers beyond those on our website. Complete
> breakdown by categories will be given in our final report," he said in
> an email to CBC News.
>
> Versailles said the assessor's office expects it will take another 18
> to 20 months to process all the claims.
>
> The RCMP could be on the hook for even more money if a second class
> action is approved. Earlier this year, lawyers for two veteran male
> RCMP officers filed a $1.1 billion class action claim in federal court
> that seeks compensation for thousands of past and present employees
> for what they claim is widespread "bullying, harassment and
> intimidation."
>
> https://merlodavidson.ca/en/
>
> Office of the Independent Assessor
> 130 Albert Street
> Suite 1103
> Ottawa (ON)
> K1P 5G4
>
> For the media:
> Guy Versailles (514) 386-9774
> gversailles@merlodavidson.ca
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Complaints <complaints@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca>
> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:33:51 +0000
> Subject: RE: Attn Madame Mulroney say hey to sneaky assiant Nabeel and
> your many Crown Counsels for me will ya?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Good afternoon David Amos,
>
> The Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the RCMP (the
> "Commission") is in receipt of your three emails of October 29, thank
> you.
>
> Your emails were thoroughly reviewed, but no information on a new
> public complaint against a member of the RCMP could be located. The
> only RCMP interaction about which you may have wanted to lodge a
> complaint which was identified, appears to have occurred in 2004, when
> RCMP members removed you from the New Brunswick legislature. Due to
> the time which has passed, and your several opportunities to bring
> this up with Commission staff in the past (and with staff from the
> Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP, which the current
> Commission replaces), a public complaint will not be accepted
> regarding this incident.
>
> Should you have a complaint you would like to make regarding the
> conduct of an on-duty RCMP member, for an incident occurring within
> the last year, the Commission invites you to submit a complaint using
> our online complaint form at
> https://www.crcc-ccetp.gc.ca/
> you may contact our Intake Office at our toll-free number listed
> below.
>
> Your October 29th emails will be kept on file for information purposes
> only.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Intake Office, Operations
> Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the RCMP / Government of
> Canada
> complaints@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca / Tel: 1-800-665-6878
>
> Bureau de réception des plaintes, Opérations
> Commission civile d’examen et de traitement des plaintes relatives à
> la GRC / Gouvernement du Canada
> plaintes@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca / Tél : 1-800-665-6878
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 08:39:12 -0400
> Subject: ATT Guy Bujold RE The Commission for Public Complaints
> against RCMP - #2013-2824 Why did your people lie to me AGAIN
> yesterday?
> To: Guy.Bujold@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca, Lesley.McCoy@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca,
> Karen.Leibovici@crcc-ccetp.gc.
> "Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
> <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Gunther.Schonfeldt"
> <Gunther.Schonfeldt@crcc-
> <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>, Whistleblower
> <Whistleblower@ctv.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <ian.mcphail@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca>
> <Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Stephen.Horsman"
> <Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
> <Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
> <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
> <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>,
> "david.hansen" <david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau"
> <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, lkelly <lkelly@nam.org>, ptolsdorf
> <ptolsdorf@nam.org>, washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>,
> "Boston.Mail" <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Thursday, 5 July 2018
>
> Ian McPhail, chairman of the Civilian Review and Complaints Commission
> for the RCMP, has left the post to resume his law practice
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: PCC Complaints <complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca>
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:48:26 +0000
> Subject: RE: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto attached
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Cc: PCC Complaints
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of the documents you sent to this office
> and to advise you that I was unable to identify specific issues
> related to the conduct of an RCMP member. I am, therefore, writing to
> clarify for you the mandate of the Commission for Public Complaints
> Against the RCMP.
>
> This Commission was established by Parliament to oversee the public
> policing activities of the RCMP. Part VII of the Royal Canadian
> Mounted Police Act (“RCMP Act”) describes the mandate of this
> Commission. Its mandate is to review “the conduct, in performance of
> any duty or function under the [RCMP] Act, of any member [of the RCMP]
> …” Taken as a whole, the concerns outlined in your letter do not
> appear to qualify as conduct of the RCMP in the performance of a duty
> or function under the Act and, therefore, do not fall within this
> Commission’s mandate.
>
>
> As a result, this Commission has no role to play in resolving the
> issues you have raised in your letter. Accordingly, we will be unable
> to process your concerns as a public complaint under Part VII of the
> RCMP Act.
>
> If your intention is to submit a complaint regarding the on-duty
> conduct of a member(s) of the RCMP, you will need to provide specific
> details, such as the date, time and city of each incident, names of
> the members you wish to complain about and the details of the improper
> conduct as it relates to each of them.
>
> You can do so through our online complaint form located at:
>
> http://www.cpc-cpp.gc.ca/cnt/
>
> Alternatively, we can also be reached by:
>
> E-mail: complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
> Fax : 604-501-4095
> Telephone : 1-800-665-6878
>
> Sincerely,
> Tammy Wright
> A/Intake Officer / Agent d’Information de Liaison
> Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP | Commission des
> plaintes du public contre la GRC
> Tel/Tél : (604) 501-4080 | Fax/Téléc : (604) 501-4095
> complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.
> Sent: July-17-14 11:50 AM
> To: general@oic-ci.gc.ca; ORG; MulcaT; leader; justin.trudeau.a1; pm;
> Mackap; steven.blaney
> Cc: david.hansen; David Amos; Marianne.Ryan; mclellana
> Subject: Fwd: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto
> attached
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com&
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 12:23:52 -0600
> Subject: Re: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto attached
> To: "Seeds, Erin" <Erin.Seeds@justice.gc.ca&
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.
>
> Cya'll in Court then
>
> On 7/17/14, Seeds, Erin <Erin.Seeds@justice.gc.ca&
> > Mr. Amos,
> >
> > I have no means of retaining these documents until you submit your
> request.
> > You will see when you get to the website, that you can attach relevant
> > documents to your request. Please do so at that time. Please also note
> that
> > the Access to Information Office is only capable of providing records
> held
> > at the Department of Justice. We have no investigative powers and while
> we
> > do not dismiss your concerns, we have no means of taking action
> on them. Any
> > documents you provide will be used only to better fulfill the Access
> to
> > Information or Personal Information requests you submit them with.
> Below is
> > a list of offices that may be better suited to investigate your
> concerns:
> >
> >
> > Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada
> > 30 Victoria Street
> > Gatineau, Quebec
> > K1A 1H3
> > Toll-free: 1-800-282-1376
> > Phone: (819) 994-5444
> > Fax: (819) 994-5424
> > http://www.priv.gc.ca/cu-cn/
> >
> > Office of the Information Commissioner
> > 30 Victoria Street
> > Gatineau, Québec K1A 1H3
> > Tel: 1-800-267-0441
> > Fax: 819-994-1768
> > For general enquiries e-mail: general@oic-ci.gc.ca
> >
> > Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
> > National Intake Office
> > P.O. Box 88689
> > Surrey, BC V3W 0X1
> > From anywhere in Canada: 1-800-665-6878
> > org@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.
> > Sent: 2014-Jul-17 1:37 PM
> > To: Seeds, Erin
> > Cc: David Amos
> > Subject: Re: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto
> attached
> >
> > Yes Please (I just called as well). I did not fill out a form yet
> >
> > However I have asked the various Justice Ministers on the phone and in
> > writing about my files since Irwin Cotler had the job Not one soul has
> > ever responded ethically until you did today. Thankyou for that
> >
> > Best regards
> > Dave Raymond Amos
> >
> > On 7/17/14, Seeds, Erin <Erin.Seeds@justice.gc.ca&
> >> Thank you Mr. Amos. Do you want me to attach this to your personal
> >> information request? I haven't seen of your request yet; did you
> submit
> >> it
> >> to Justice on the website I mentioned?
> >>
> >>
> >> Erin Seeds
> >> Junior ATIP Analyst
> >> Jusctice Canada
> >> Phone: 613-941-4189
> >> erin.seeds@justice.gc.ca
> >>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: PCC Complaints <complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca>
> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:59:52 +0000
> Subject: The Commission for Public Complaints against RCMP - #2013-2824
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This is further to your recent communications with the Commission.
> From September 18, 2013 to the present, our office has received 6
> electronic messages from you. Many of these e-mails are not related to
> RCMP conduct.
>
> On October 1, 2013, you called our office and spoke with an Intake
> Officer. You wished to enquire about three complaint files. When the
> Intake Officer attempted to inform you that you have three enquiry
> files with the Commission, you became agitated and insisted otherwise.
> You raised your voice and spoke over the Intake Officer. You then
> demanded the name of the Intake Officer, and subsequently yelled "see
> you in federal court" and hung up the telephone line.
>
> As a reminder, we request that all future correspondence with our
> office must be courteous in tone and that you are respectful of the
> requests that are made of you. While it is clearly not the intention
> of the Commission to prevent you from making complaints against
> members of the RCMP, your recent emails and telephone call have been
> unproductive for both you and for Commission staff. In the future, we
> request that all communication with our office be respectful in
> language and related to our mandate. In the event that this request
> is not respected, the Commission will consider imposing restrictions
> on how you may communicate with our office.
>
> Should you have a complaint about a specific RCMP member surrounding a
> specific incident, I invite you to visit the Commission's website
> (www.cpc-cpp.gc.ca<http://www.
> complaint, rather than to send an email that is difficult to follow or
> a copy of a letter you have sent to many others. The complaint form
> will guide you through the information required that will enable the
> Commission to process your complaint. Should you have difficulty in
> accessing the complaint form and wish to have one sent to you, you may
> provide your mailing address and a form will be mailed to you via
> Canada Post.
>
> I would also invite you to send your correspondence regarding any new
> or existing complaints (quoting the appropriate Commission file
> number) by letter mail to:
>
> Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
> National Intake Office
> PO Box 88689
> Surrey, BC V3W 0X1
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Günther Schönfeldt
> Intake Officer / Agent d'information de liaison
> Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP /
> Commission des plaintes du public contre la Gendarmerie royale du Canada
> Tel/Tél : 1-800-665-6878 | Fax/Téléc : (604) 501-4095
> complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca<
>
>
> [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF6DA.
>
> ETC ETC ETC
Methinks you know I stick to the facts but you ignore anyway N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/
Methinks I would enjoy seeing a little Integrity from CBC and former
top cops N'esy Pas?
https://www.pysafety.ca/index.
Pierre-Yves Bourduas is the President of P-Y Public Safety Management Inc., an Ottawa-based
firm specializing in strategic management, and talent development. Mr. Bourduas’ professional
experience is anchored in over 33 years as a member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police
where he gained valuable experience from a wide variety of operational
and administrative experience.
As Deputy Commissioner of the RCMP he provided strategic direction and cogent policy advice concerning a complex variety of national and international law enforcement and national security
issues to Ministers, Deputy Ministers and senior officials representing federal, provincial and international governments and their related law enforcement agencies.
Over the past seven years he expanded his professional horizon as advisor to private and public organizations He is also a member of the external audit committee at Canada Border Services
Agency. His educational background complements his professional credential and experience: he
holds a Masters of Arts in Leadership from Royal Roads University.
Mr. Bourduas is widely sought after by the media as a subject matter expert for national policing
and public safety events. He is a keynote speaker and facilitator at the US-Canada Border
Conference and is frequently asked to participate in panel discussion and facilitate learning
sessions.
We will be more than happy to discuss your needs
Contact:
Pierre-Yves (P-Y) Bourduas, President
Office: (613) 821-397
Mobile: (613) 697-3973
py@pysafety.ca
https://davidraymondamos3.
Tuesday, 20 November 2018
I read the news today about the RCMP lawsuits and just shook my head
at the malicious nonsense but when Guy Versailles laughed at me I got
truly pissed off
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Hon.Ralph.Goodale (PS/SP)" <Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:02:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I read the news today about the RCMP lawsuits and just shook my
head at the malicious nonsense but when Guy Versailles laughed at me I got truly pissed off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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On 11/20/18, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> RCMP's sexual harassment suit bigger and more expensive than predicted
>
> Mounties expected 1,000 claims in Merlo-Davidson settlement — so far,
> they've got 3,131
> Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Nov 20, 2018 4:00 AM ET
>
>
> "Guy Versailles, a spokesperson for the assessor's office, said the
> office isn't ready to provide a breakdown of how many claimants have
> been assessed at each level so far.
>
> "We do not give numbers beyond those on our website. Complete
> breakdown by categories will be given in our final report," he said in
> an email to CBC News.
>
> Versailles said the assessor's office expects it will take another 18
> to 20 months to process all the claims.
>
> The RCMP could be on the hook for even more money if a second class
> action is approved. Earlier this year, lawyers for two veteran male
> RCMP officers filed a $1.1 billion class action claim in federal court
> that seeks compensation for thousands of past and present employees
> for what they claim is widespread "bullying, harassment and
> intimidation."
>
> https://merlodavidson.ca/en/
>
> Office of the Independent Assessor
> 130 Albert Street
> Suite 1103
> Ottawa (ON)
> K1P 5G4
>
> For the media:
> Guy Versailles (514) 386-9774
> gversailles@merlodavidson.ca
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Complaints <complaints@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca>
> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:33:51 +0000
> Subject: RE: Attn Madame Mulroney say hey to sneaky assiant Nabeel and
> your many Crown Counsels for me will ya?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Good afternoon David Amos,
>
> The Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the RCMP (the
> "Commission") is in receipt of your three emails of October 29, thank
> you.
>
> Your emails were thoroughly reviewed, but no information on a new
> public complaint against a member of the RCMP could be located. The
> only RCMP interaction about which you may have wanted to lodge a
> complaint which was identified, appears to have occurred in 2004, when
> RCMP members removed you from the New Brunswick legislature. Due to
> the time which has passed, and your several opportunities to bring
> this up with Commission staff in the past (and with staff from the
> Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP, which the current
> Commission replaces), a public complaint will not be accepted
> regarding this incident.
>
> Should you have a complaint you would like to make regarding the
> conduct of an on-duty RCMP member, for an incident occurring within
> the last year, the Commission invites you to submit a complaint using
> our online complaint form at
> https://www.crcc-ccetp.gc.ca/
> you may contact our Intake Office at our toll-free number listed
> below.
>
> Your October 29th emails will be kept on file for information purposes
> only.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Intake Office, Operations
> Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the RCMP / Government of
> Canada
> complaints@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca / Tel: 1-800-665-6878
>
> Bureau de réception des plaintes, Opérations
> Commission civile d’examen et de traitement des plaintes relatives à
> la GRC / Gouvernement du Canada
> plaintes@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca / Tél : 1-800-665-6878
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 08:39:12 -0400
> Subject: ATT Guy Bujold RE The Commission for Public Complaints
> against RCMP - #2013-2824 Why did your people lie to me AGAIN
> yesterday?
> To: Guy.Bujold@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca, Lesley.McCoy@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca,
> Karen.Leibovici@crcc-ccetp.gc.
> "Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
> <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Gunther.Schonfeldt"
> <Gunther.Schonfeldt@crcc-
> <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>, Whistleblower
> <Whistleblower@ctv.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <ian.mcphail@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca>
> <Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Stephen.Horsman"
> <Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
> <Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
> <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
> <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>,
> "david.hansen" <david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau"
> <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, lkelly <lkelly@nam.org>, ptolsdorf
> <ptolsdorf@nam.org>, washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>,
> "Boston.Mail" <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Thursday, 5 July 2018
>
> Ian McPhail, chairman of the Civilian Review and Complaints Commission
> for the RCMP, has left the post to resume his law practice
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: PCC Complaints <complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca>
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:48:26 +0000
> Subject: RE: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto attached
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Cc: PCC Complaints
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of the documents you sent to this office
> and to advise you that I was unable to identify specific issues
> related to the conduct of an RCMP member. I am, therefore, writing to
> clarify for you the mandate of the Commission for Public Complaints
> Against the RCMP.
>
> This Commission was established by Parliament to oversee the public
> policing activities of the RCMP. Part VII of the Royal Canadian
> Mounted Police Act (“RCMP Act”) describes the mandate of this
> Commission. Its mandate is to review “the conduct, in performance of
> any duty or function under the [RCMP] Act, of any member [of the RCMP]
> …” Taken as a whole, the concerns outlined in your letter do not
> appear to qualify as conduct of the RCMP in the performance of a duty
> or function under the Act and, therefore, do not fall within this
> Commission’s mandate.
>
>
> As a result, this Commission has no role to play in resolving the
> issues you have raised in your letter. Accordingly, we will be unable
> to process your concerns as a public complaint under Part VII of the
> RCMP Act.
>
> If your intention is to submit a complaint regarding the on-duty
> conduct of a member(s) of the RCMP, you will need to provide specific
> details, such as the date, time and city of each incident, names of
> the members you wish to complain about and the details of the improper
> conduct as it relates to each of them.
>
> You can do so through our online complaint form located at:
>
> http://www.cpc-cpp.gc.ca/cnt/
>
> Alternatively, we can also be reached by:
>
> E-mail: complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
> Fax : 604-501-4095
> Telephone : 1-800-665-6878
>
> Sincerely,
> Tammy Wright
> A/Intake Officer / Agent d’Information de Liaison
> Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP | Commission des
> plaintes du public contre la GRC
> Tel/Tél : (604) 501-4080 | Fax/Téléc : (604) 501-4095
> complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.
> Sent: July-17-14 11:50 AM
> To: general@oic-ci.gc.ca; ORG; MulcaT; leader; justin.trudeau.a1; pm;
> Mackap; steven.blaney
> Cc: david.hansen; David Amos; Marianne.Ryan; mclellana
> Subject: Fwd: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto
> attached
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com&
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 12:23:52 -0600
> Subject: Re: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto attached
> To: "Seeds, Erin" <Erin.Seeds@justice.gc.ca&
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.
>
> Cya'll in Court then
>
> On 7/17/14, Seeds, Erin <Erin.Seeds@justice.gc.ca&
> > Mr. Amos,
> >
> > I have no means of retaining these documents until you submit your
> request.
> > You will see when you get to the website, that you can attach relevant
> > documents to your request. Please do so at that time. Please also note
> that
> > the Access to Information Office is only capable of providing records
> held
> > at the Department of Justice. We have no investigative powers and while
> we
> > do not dismiss your concerns, we have no means of taking action
> on them. Any
> > documents you provide will be used only to better fulfill the Access
> to
> > Information or Personal Information requests you submit them with.
> Below is
> > a list of offices that may be better suited to investigate your
> concerns:
> >
> >
> > Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada
> > 30 Victoria Street
> > Gatineau, Quebec
> > K1A 1H3
> > Toll-free: 1-800-282-1376
> > Phone: (819) 994-5444
> > Fax: (819) 994-5424
> > http://www.priv.gc.ca/cu-cn/
> >
> > Office of the Information Commissioner
> > 30 Victoria Street
> > Gatineau, Québec K1A 1H3
> > Tel: 1-800-267-0441
> > Fax: 819-994-1768
> > For general enquiries e-mail: general@oic-ci.gc.ca
> >
> > Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
> > National Intake Office
> > P.O. Box 88689
> > Surrey, BC V3W 0X1
> > From anywhere in Canada: 1-800-665-6878
> > org@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.
> > Sent: 2014-Jul-17 1:37 PM
> > To: Seeds, Erin
> > Cc: David Amos
> > Subject: Re: Re Call from 613 995 3466 Please view Pdf file hereto
> attached
> >
> > Yes Please (I just called as well). I did not fill out a form yet
> >
> > However I have asked the various Justice Ministers on the phone and in
> > writing about my files since Irwin Cotler had the job Not one soul has
> > ever responded ethically until you did today. Thankyou for that
> >
> > Best regards
> > Dave Raymond Amos
> >
> > On 7/17/14, Seeds, Erin <Erin.Seeds@justice.gc.ca&
> >> Thank you Mr. Amos. Do you want me to attach this to your personal
> >> information request? I haven't seen of your request yet; did you
> submit
> >> it
> >> to Justice on the website I mentioned?
> >>
> >>
> >> Erin Seeds
> >> Junior ATIP Analyst
> >> Jusctice Canada
> >> Phone: 613-941-4189
> >> erin.seeds@justice.gc.ca
> >>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: PCC Complaints <complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca>
> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:59:52 +0000
> Subject: The Commission for Public Complaints against RCMP - #2013-2824
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This is further to your recent communications with the Commission.
> From September 18, 2013 to the present, our office has received 6
> electronic messages from you. Many of these e-mails are not related to
> RCMP conduct.
>
> On October 1, 2013, you called our office and spoke with an Intake
> Officer. You wished to enquire about three complaint files. When the
> Intake Officer attempted to inform you that you have three enquiry
> files with the Commission, you became agitated and insisted otherwise.
> You raised your voice and spoke over the Intake Officer. You then
> demanded the name of the Intake Officer, and subsequently yelled "see
> you in federal court" and hung up the telephone line.
>
> As a reminder, we request that all future correspondence with our
> office must be courteous in tone and that you are respectful of the
> requests that are made of you. While it is clearly not the intention
> of the Commission to prevent you from making complaints against
> members of the RCMP, your recent emails and telephone call have been
> unproductive for both you and for Commission staff. In the future, we
> request that all communication with our office be respectful in
> language and related to our mandate. In the event that this request
> is not respected, the Commission will consider imposing restrictions
> on how you may communicate with our office.
>
> Should you have a complaint about a specific RCMP member surrounding a
> specific incident, I invite you to visit the Commission's website
> (www.cpc-cpp.gc.ca<http://www.
> complaint, rather than to send an email that is difficult to follow or
> a copy of a letter you have sent to many others. The complaint form
> will guide you through the information required that will enable the
> Commission to process your complaint. Should you have difficulty in
> accessing the complaint form and wish to have one sent to you, you may
> provide your mailing address and a form will be mailed to you via
> Canada Post.
>
> I would also invite you to send your correspondence regarding any new
> or existing complaints (quoting the appropriate Commission file
> number) by letter mail to:
>
> Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
> National Intake Office
> PO Box 88689
> Surrey, BC V3W 0X1
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Günther Schönfeldt
> Intake Officer / Agent d'information de liaison
> Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP /
> Commission des plaintes du public contre la Gendarmerie royale du Canada
> Tel/Tél : 1-800-665-6878 | Fax/Téléc : (604) 501-4095
> complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca<
>
>
> [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF6DA.
>
> ETC ETC ETC
---------- Original message ----------
From: Birgitta Jonsdottir <birgitta@this.is>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 16:43:33 -0800
Subject: e-mail overload Re: Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves
Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982
know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Thank you for writing to me. I get so many emails that it is
impossible for me to even read them all. If you have an urgent matter
to discuss. Please put Priority in the subject. Please refrain from
sending email to multitude of email addresses you might have for me.
Only send one email with priority in the subject. It means I will read
it and will do my very best to reply asap :)
---------- Original message ----------
From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 00:43:46 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves
Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982
know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 00:43:32 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves
Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982
know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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From: Birgitta Jonsdottir <birgitta@this.is>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 16:43:33 -0800
Subject: e-mail overload Re: Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves
Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982
know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Thank you for writing to me. I get so many emails that it is
impossible for me to even read them all. If you have an urgent matter
to discuss. Please put Priority in the subject. Please refrain from
sending email to multitude of email addresses you might have for me.
Only send one email with priority in the subject. It means I will read
it and will do my very best to reply asap :)
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From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 00:43:46 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves
Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982
know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 00:43:32 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks hundreds of MPS, Pierre-Yves
Bourduas and a legion of his cohorts whom I have dealt with since 1982
know what a monumental joke this "News" is to me N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
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Merci encore pour votre courriel.
RCMP officers given permission to break the law a record 73 times in 2017, report shows
Special provision grants officers criminal immunity during investigations
RCMP officers were given
permission to break the law 73 times on the job last year — the highest
number on record — according to a new report.
Police officers are not immune from criminal liability while doing their jobs, but a decade-old tweak to the Criminal Code allows for a temporary dispensation during investigations.
The provisions are subject to a legal requirement of reasonableness and proportionality. High-ranking officials can grant permission if they believe breaking the law could save someone's life, protect the identity of an undercover officer or save evidence from being destroyed.
In 2017, senior officials gave the green light to 94 scenarios, resulting in the 73 committed crimes.
They were mainly linked to organized crime investigations which saw undercover officers taking part in bets, pool-selling, bookmaking and unlawful possession of tobacco products, according to a recent Public Safety report quietly tabled in the House of Commons in late October.
RCMP officers were authorized to break the law 73 times on the job last year. (Public Safety/CBC)
Going back to 2003, the first year the report is available, Mounties have committed just a smattering of green-lit crimes.
On average, they've been authorized to break the law about six times a year, making the 2017 calendar year an anomaly.
The only other year that saw a spike was 2015, when 20 crimes were committed in the name of anti-corruption and terrorism-related investigations.
That year, the offences ranged from bribery to unauthorized use of a computer and passport forgery.
The crimes vary by year, but often involve forgery and false statements.
During
a 2013 terrorism investigation, officers were given authority to
provide and make "property or services for terrorist purposes."
Neither Public Safety officials nor the RCMP would explain why 2017 saw a huge spike.
"We are evaluating the increase in the 2016-2017 numbers, but cannot provide any details at this time. We will not speculate on trends related to 2018 statistics," said RCMP spokesperson Sgt. Marie Damian in an email to CBC News.
"RCMP procedures and policies governing undercover activities are continually reviewed to ensure undercover operations are applied pursuant to all laws, procedures, and policies governing undercover operations while not jeopardizing the safety of our members, suspects, their families, or the public."
Former
RCMP deputy commissioner Pierre-Yves Bourduas said after the Parliament
Hill shooting in 2014 some operations and investigations were set aside
to focus on national security investigations. (CBC)
Former RCMP deputy commissioner Pierre-Yves Bourduas said after the Parliament Hill shooting in 2014 some operations and investigations were set aside to focus on national security investigations.
"It would make sense for me that all of a sudden the resources that were re-profiled on national
security investigations were brought back to look at organized crime and money laundering and these other types of operation," he said in an interview.
"These are highly sensitive cases and operations, and you try to work as many possible scenarios and options, because this is a very dangerous type of work. Hence the reason why sometimes you ask permission to conduct illegal activities," he said.
"There's also an additional legislative obligation for the officer to report what he's done in the course of his or her investigation because, as we all know, the ultimate consequences, if these officers don't abide by the law, is that a case could be thrown out of court."
Under the law, which was introduced in 2002 after a Supreme Court case, officers are never allowed to cause bodily harm, sexually violate another person or obstruct justice, and an annual report summarizing the crimes has to be tabled in the House of Commons.
During the past 14 years, there has been just one occasion where a designated officer proceeded without a senior official's authorization "due to exigent circumstances."
According to a briefing obtained through access to information, the RCMP asked the federal government to table the 2017 report in June, before Parliament rose for the summer break, but it was put off until late October.
Police officers are not immune from criminal liability while doing their jobs, but a decade-old tweak to the Criminal Code allows for a temporary dispensation during investigations.
The provisions are subject to a legal requirement of reasonableness and proportionality. High-ranking officials can grant permission if they believe breaking the law could save someone's life, protect the identity of an undercover officer or save evidence from being destroyed.
In 2017, senior officials gave the green light to 94 scenarios, resulting in the 73 committed crimes.
They were mainly linked to organized crime investigations which saw undercover officers taking part in bets, pool-selling, bookmaking and unlawful possession of tobacco products, according to a recent Public Safety report quietly tabled in the House of Commons in late October.
On average, they've been authorized to break the law about six times a year, making the 2017 calendar year an anomaly.
Forgery, bribery and other offences
The only other year that saw a spike was 2015, when 20 crimes were committed in the name of anti-corruption and terrorism-related investigations.
That year, the offences ranged from bribery to unauthorized use of a computer and passport forgery.
The crimes vary by year, but often involve forgery and false statements.
Neither Public Safety officials nor the RCMP would explain why 2017 saw a huge spike.
"We are evaluating the increase in the 2016-2017 numbers, but cannot provide any details at this time. We will not speculate on trends related to 2018 statistics," said RCMP spokesperson Sgt. Marie Damian in an email to CBC News.
"RCMP procedures and policies governing undercover activities are continually reviewed to ensure undercover operations are applied pursuant to all laws, procedures, and policies governing undercover operations while not jeopardizing the safety of our members, suspects, their families, or the public."
Why crimes spiked in 2017
Former RCMP deputy commissioner Pierre-Yves Bourduas said after the Parliament Hill shooting in 2014 some operations and investigations were set aside to focus on national security investigations.
"It would make sense for me that all of a sudden the resources that were re-profiled on national
security investigations were brought back to look at organized crime and money laundering and these other types of operation," he said in an interview.
It would make sense for me that all of a sudden the resources that were re-profiled on national security investigations were brought back to look at organized crime and money laundering and these other types of operation.- PY Bourduas , former RCMP deputy commissionerBourduas, who now runs PY Public Safety Management Inc., said these operations involve lots of oversight and planning.
"These are highly sensitive cases and operations, and you try to work as many possible scenarios and options, because this is a very dangerous type of work. Hence the reason why sometimes you ask permission to conduct illegal activities," he said.
"There's also an additional legislative obligation for the officer to report what he's done in the course of his or her investigation because, as we all know, the ultimate consequences, if these officers don't abide by the law, is that a case could be thrown out of court."
Under the law, which was introduced in 2002 after a Supreme Court case, officers are never allowed to cause bodily harm, sexually violate another person or obstruct justice, and an annual report summarizing the crimes has to be tabled in the House of Commons.
During the past 14 years, there has been just one occasion where a designated officer proceeded without a senior official's authorization "due to exigent circumstances."
According to a briefing obtained through access to information, the RCMP asked the federal government to table the 2017 report in June, before Parliament rose for the summer break, but it was put off until late October.
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 01:23:05 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I know for certain that Pierre-Yves Bourduas
and the lawyer Liliana.Longo and many other cops must remeber Barry
Winters and his old buddy Dean Roger Ray N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:22:57 -0400
Subject: I know for certain that Pierre-Yves Bourduas and the lawyer
Liliana.Longo and many other cops must remeber Barry Winters and his
old buddy Dean Roger Ray N'esy Pas?
To: py@pysafety.ca, gversailles@merlodavidson.ca,
Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov, clare.barry@justice.gc.ca,
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bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca,
Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca, Hon.Chrystia.Freeland@canada.
Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
attorneygeneral@ontario.ca, matthew.giovinazzo@ontario.ca,
martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca,
ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, premier@ontario.ca,
daniel.gosselin@cas-satj.gc.ca
Bruce.Preston@cas-satj.gc.ca, Beatriz.Winter@cas-satj.gc.ca,
warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca,
Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca, Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov, Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
pm@pm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca, Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca,
dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com,
jbosnitch@gmail.com, birgitta@this.is, birgittajoy@gmail.com,
editor@wikileaks.org, ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk,
djtjr@trumporg.com, Beverley.Busson@sen.parl.gc.ca
Guy.Bujold@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca, Lesley.McCoy@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca,
Karen.Leibovici@crcc-ccetp.gc.
Cc: "David.Raymond.Amos" <David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com>
"Liliana.Longo" <Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: "Gary.Rhodes" <Gary.Rhodes@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "rod.knecht"
<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>
<Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "deanr0032" <deanr0032@hotmail.com>,
"sunrayzulu" <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca, "David
Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:09:11 AM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
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To: "Claude Aubin" <aubinc@cactuscom.com>; "pm" <pm@pm.gc.ca>;
"marc.garneau.a1" <marc.garneau.a1@parl.gc.ca>; "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>
<presse@philippecouillard.com>
<meerang.rb@gmail.com>; <media@georgetakach.ca>; <info@georgetakach.ca>;
<info@martincauchon.ca>; <media@martincauchon.ca>;
<policy.karenforcanada@gmail.
<media@davidbertschi.ca>; <info@pierremoreau.ca>
Cc: <peter.penashue@parl.gc.ca>; <Darcey@metisonline.ca>; <jriche@innu.ca>;
<trussell@nunatukavut.ca>; <minister@aadnc-aandc.gc.ca>;
<ministre@ec.gc.ca>; <Marjory.LeBreton@pco-bcp.gc.
<DuaneM@metisnation.ca>; <info@pco-bcp.gc.ca>;
<peter.penashue@pco-bcp.gc.ca>
<brycefequet@
Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca
<appa@sen.parl.gc.ca>; <bcm@international.gc.ca>; "RBauer"
<RBauer@perkinscoie.com>; "bginsberg" <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:57 PM
Subject: Yo Harper Just exactly how dumb is your French buddy Claude Aubin????
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Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 9:33 PM
Subject: Fwd: DOD Auditor General and alan.white@cbc.ca
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From: Tiredofamos Yup <tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:07:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
----- Forwarded Message -----
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To: "tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca" <tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:55:47 PM
Subject: FW: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: "pm" <pm@pm.gc.ca>; <Office@tigta.treas.gov>; <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>;
<mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov>; "Gilles.Moreau" <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
<ron.klain@revolution.com>; <dboies@bsfllp.com>; <tolson@gibsondunn.com>;
<bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>; "ed.pilkington" <ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>
"news" <news@thetelegraph.com.au>; "leader" <leader@greenparty.ca>
Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>; <gregory.craig@skadden.com>;
<Patrick.Fitzgerald@skadden.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:27 PM
Subject: Re Teddy Baby Olson was on Fox News today yapping about
Presidential enemies list as he represents the crooks in Koch Industries???
If anyone should know about such things it is Olson after all he assisted
Ashcroft and Bush against me
Hey
As Harper sits and bullshits his cohorts in the Council of Foreign
Relations in the Big Apple today I bet he was listening to what was
happening with Obama and the IRS and Holder and his DOJ minions
in Washington.
Hevery body and his dog knows Harper knew about my battles with
the US Treasury and Justice Depts way back when he was the boss of
the opposition in Canada's Parliament. Two simple files easily found on
the Internet cannot be argued.
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
http://www.archive.org/
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Office of Chief Counsel, Treasury.
Inspector General for Tax Administration, (202) 622-4068.
When Teddy bitches about polticians using the IRS to attack their enemies
because
he knows it true because he helped Bush the IRS against me when Obama was
just a
State Senator .
The proof was when I sent him the documents that came along with the letter
found on
page 13 of this old file Teddy Baby Olson quit as Solicitor General.
http://www.checktheevidence.
Harper and every body else knows It was no coincidence that I sent the
lawyers Olson
as Solicitior General, Ferguson as the co chair of the Federal Reserve Bank
and J Strom
Thurmond Jr the youngest US Attorney the same pile of documents on April
Fools Day 2004.
The sad but terrible truth is that legions of cops, lawyers polticians and
bureaucrats in Canada
and the USA knew about the US Secret Service coming to my home after dark on
April Fools
Day 2003 bearing false allegations of a presidential threat and threatening
to use their implied
right to use exta ordinary rendition against me as a non citizen less than
two weeks after the
needless War in Iraq began and no WMD were ever found.
You can bet dimes to dollars I called some Yankee Inspector Generals
(starting with 202 622 4068)
and reminded them that I am still alive and kicking and reminding the world
of their malicious
incompetence
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
PS Below you can review some emails I sent you and your Yankee cohorts such
asTeddy Baby Olson
before Obama was reelected EH Harper? In truth I would rather settle in
confidence with Obama then
sue the Hell out of the CROWN and the Holy See Trust that the evil old Judge
Bastarache has known
why for a very long time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <sancanadahelp@gmail.com>; <rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>; "mbastarache"
<mbastarache@heenan.ca>
Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: I just called from 902 800 0369
Welcome members and sorry again
Posted on November 13, 2012 by Dave Mantin Welcome to SANCanada, it
stands for Sexual Abuse Network of Canada, formally known as S.N.A.P
Atlantic Groups ( Survivors Network of Those Abused by Pedophiles ).
In the next few days we will update this site with all the information
that we had on all 5 of our old sites. And in addition of the name
changes and websites, I have spoken to our board of directors and we
feel that we can now go Canada wide instead of just the Atlantic
provinces because of support that our groups have and how many people
we have been able to help through this struggle .
No one knows better on how your feeling than someone that has been
through it, We have collect a great number of victims to assist us in
answering any questions you may have when you are ready to deal with
the past.
Anyone that has been sexually abused, weather it be last week or 60
years ago, or if it was a family member, friend, priest, or school
activities please call or email us anytime.
Dave Mantin
Email sancanadahelp@gmail.com
Phone 5066095725
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: "Rob Talach" <rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
a lot to you
http://www.checktheevidence.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <gregory.craig@skadden.com>; <Patrick.Fitzgerald@skadden.
Cc: <pm@pm.gc.ca>; <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<NewsTips@turner.com>; <patrick.j.fitzgerald@usdoj.
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; <bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net
"MulcaT" <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>; <erin@issaforcongress.com>;
<john@issaforcongress.com>; <darrell@issaforcongress.com>;
<RBauer@perkinscoie.com>; <MElias@perkinscoie.com>;
<aculvahouse@omm.com>; <counsel@barackobama.com>;
<granthuihi@garyjohnson2012.
<Rathika.Sitsabaiesan@parl.gc.
<george.osborne.mp@parliament.
<public.enquiries@hm-treasury.
<michael.geller@rbs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Mr Obama and his lawyer Mr Bauer are no doubt well aware
of why the US Treasury Dept in Alanta and many others are nervous EH
Mr Harper?
Why am I not surprised? We all know Chicago aint my kind of town EH
Greg Craig???
http://www.scribd.com/doc/
Former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald will join Skadden, Arps,
Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP on Oct. 29 as a partner
From: Fitzgerald, Patrick J. (USAILN) <Patrick.J.Fitzgerald@usdoj.
Subject: Automatic reply: Mr Obama and his lawyer Mr Bauer are no
doubt well aware of why the US Treasury Dept in Alanta and many others
are nervous EH Mr Harper?
To: "David Amos"
Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 5:45 PM
I have retired from the government and will no longer have access to
this email. If you need to contact the US Attorneys Office about a
matter, please contact the following phone number for directions as to
where to address your inquiry: 312-353-6742.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: pm@pm.gc.ca ; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com ;
motomaniac333@gmail.com ; NewsTips@turner.com ;
patrick.j.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov ; bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net ; MulcaT ; erin@issaforcongress.com ;
john@issaforcongress.com ; darrell@issaforcongress.com
Cc: RBauer@perkinscoie.com ; MElias@perkinscoie.com ;
aculvahouse@omm.com ; counsel@barackobama.com ;
granthuihi@garyjohnson2012.com ; gregory.craig@skadden.com ;
icnucnwecan@yahoo.com ; Rathika.Sitsabaiesan@parl.gc.
riho.kruuv@mfa.ee ; george.osborne.mp@parliament.
public.enquiries@hm-treasury.
michael.geller@rbs.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:44 PM
Subject: Mr Obama and his lawyer Mr Bauer are no doubt well aware of
why the US Treasury Dept in Alanta and many others are nervous EH Mr
Harper?
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http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
Just go back six more years in case you forgot EH Harper???
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
Bob Bauer a former blogger for Huffington Post returned to Perkins $
Coie after a period of service to President Barack Obama as his White
House Counsel from December of 2009 until June of 2011.
He is now General Counsel to the President’s re-election committee, to
Obama for America, and General Counsel to the Democratic National
Committee. He has also served as co-counsel to the New Hampshire State
Senate in the trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000); general
counsel to the Bill Bradley for President Committee (1999-2000); and
counsel to the Democratic Leader in the trial of President William
Jefferson Clinton (1999).
He has co-authored numerous bipartisan reports, including "Report of
Counsel to the Senate Rules and Administration Committee in the Matter
of the United States Senate Seat From Louisiana" in the 105th Congress
of the United States (March 27, 1997); "Campaign Finance Reform," A
Report to the Majority Leader and Minority Leader of the United States
Senate (March 6, 1990); and "The Presidential Election Process in the
Philippines" (1986), a bipartisan report prepared at the request of
the Chairman and Ranking Member of the U.S. Senate Committee on
Foreign Relations.
Too bad so sad the lawyer Obama didn't ignore his legal counsel and
check my work for himself long ago. It is clear to me that Bob Bauer
never studied Maritimers and their lawsuits as closely as I studied
his work over the years.
http://www.checktheevidence.
If Obama does not finally simply say my name and expose what he knows
about Romney and I way back before he was even a Governor then he
deserves to lose this election.
However even though I would NOT wish to see another GOP president you
and your Bankster buddies won't mind that a bit but I doubt the NDP
and the Liberals will agree EH Mr Prime Minister?
http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
Some wise should scroll to the botom of this email and unserstand that
it was Fidelity that knowly sold the Title Insurance on the fruldulent
sale of my family's home in 2005 then Citizens Bank illegally recorded
the discharge of a mortage long after the deal was done and I heve the
records from the Registry of Deeds. Clearly the Royal Bank Of Scotland
and British FSA has ADMITTED knowing all this for wat past too long.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov>; "RBauer" <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>;
"bginsberg" <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>; "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<andre@jafaust.com>; "andremurraynow" <andremurraynow@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:03 AM
Subject: Good evening Special Agent Mark Vespucci Say Hoka Hey to Mr
Obama's lawyer for me will ya???
You dudes can find this email right here
http://thedavidamosrant.
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the USDOJ for me will ya?
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<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>; <MElias@perkinscoie.com>
Cc: <aculvahouse@omm.com>; "David Amos"
<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:49 PM
Subject: Remember me Mr Bauer??? No doubt Mr Elias does EH?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <KVogel@politico.com>; <MElias@perkinscoie.com>; <jaf123@aol.com>;
<media@alfranken.com>; <rob.heller@marquiswhoswho.com
<thielen@republicanlawyer.net>
<tokyo@ubp-group.com>
Cc: "webo" <webo@xplornet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re :USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNYc
Hey
I just called you correct Mr Vogel? (703 647 7985) You do work for a
publicly held Corp and you are supposed to conduct yourself ethically
as a journalist CORRECT? If you don't think that I am the guy who
caused Bernie Madoff to suddenly plead guilty last month and am
justifiably pissed off today then you best read this email and the
following ones real slow.
You did ask me to cut to the chase correct Kenny Baby? My answer was
Cya in Court Correct? Now my question is do you have a lawyer and does
he understand the power of emails as evidence in legal matter? If not
perhap he should ask the lawyer Elias why I am so pissed off after you
forward him this and the following emails EH? (FYI I called Elia
office too 202.434.1609 and read his assistant the riot act while I
was doing so other lawyers were studing me rathe dilently scroll to
the bottom of this email to see the proof)
After breaking the icecap on my name in the media yesterday I am
speaking again today on Dr Bill Deagle's radio show on GCN. My
intention today as I speak again on Dr Bill's show is to try to expose
my knowledge of what Barack Obama and his cohorts knew about my
concerns beginning back in 2004 long BEFORE he was elected Senator and
how he quite likely used the material I sent him byway of his
assistant Peter Coffey to become the keynote Speaker at the Democrat's
convention in July of 2004 that gave rise to his popularity with the
malevolent assistance of Howard Dean and many others. Perhaps you
should tune in to the alternate media for your source of true info.
On a personal level in the strange world of coincidences it was a
Yankee Judge named Coffey who was my neighbor in Milton MA (the town
where George H. W. Bush was born) that became involved in my false
imprisonment in Boston in October of 2004 based on an unsigned illegal
criminal complaint in a court with no jurisdiction to even atempt to
hear such a matter in the first place. More importantly Dennis
Kucinich knew everything a year before that happened when he was
running for the presidentil nonination in 2003 and 2004. Just before
my phone line was cut in Milton MA I called Kucinich office they
acknowledge hhis response to me in 2003 but denied knowing what I sent
his lawyer lady friend at the time. When invited him to come to court
on October 1st, 2004 to help me impeach George W. Bush. Kucinich's
people declined my offer just like my wife's Yankee lawyer Barry
Bachrach who also chickened out. Not long after that call my phone
line was cut and I went to jail without being legally arrested and
held under the charges of "other" in solitary confinement without bail
until the Canadian Department of Foreign Affairs paid me a visit. No
kidding I hve the documentation posted in my files within SCRIBD.
Google me sometime before you dare to call me a liar or a nut. Clearly
I studied you dudes. It was not a cold call today EH?
http://www.answers.com/topic/
http://investing.businessweek.
http://www.politico.com/
http://www.perkinscoie.com/
To put this simply as possible reading this nonsense of yours offends me.
http://www.politico.com/news/
Start reading my emails to see why Yankee.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
______________________________
From: davidramos@xplornet.com
To: 4humanitysake@comcast.net; 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
a_jones10467@yahoo.com; atvnews@ctv.ca; cap871@hotmail.com;
c.sperr@comcast.net; dblaron67@yahoo.com; derrickcrobinson@gmail.com;
erniemusic2@yahoo.com; irock96@hotmail.com; gerryduffett47@yahoo.com;
kevin_annett@hotmail.com; laceupboots@hotmail.com;
marsboy683@yahoo.com; mc_victim@hotmail.com; mcclelland_t@hotmail.com;
mcclellandt@netzero.com; One_World_Religion@
orwelltoday@orwelltoday.com; rghouseholder@msn.com;
your_neighbor_2000@yahoo.com; warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca;
bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
CC: Iolmisha@cs.com; jhughes164@yahoo.com; jstc4emsurvivors@yahoo.com;
Justice4Tyrell@yahoogroups.com
mc_victim@hotmail.com; midnightladync@yahoo.com;
orwelltoday@orwelltoday.com;
september_eleven_vreeland@
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fbooth@safety.state.nh.us; cward@cameronward.com
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 01:41:19 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: TruthAGAINSTtradition@
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; py.bourduas@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
InfoWarz@rovin.net
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:26 AM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: dutydesk@torontopolice.on.ca ; vpd@vpd.ca ; eps@police.edmonton.ab.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ottawairc@state.gov
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: doralee.smith@pwgsc.gc.ca ; MacKay.P@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: eamacleod@cbrmps.cape-breton.
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; Oda.B@parl.gc.ca ;
paul.dube@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; Henry McCandless ; dwatch@web.net ;
president@utoronto.ca ; chris.cunningham@utoronto.ca
Cc: Dykstra.R@parl.gc.ca ; solberg.m@parl.gc.ca ;
thompson.g@parl.gc.ca ; toews.v@parl.gc.ca ; Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us
; ruby@ruby-edwardh.com ; fbinhct@leo.gov ;
patrick.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov ; Russell_Feingold@feingold.
stephen.cutler@wilmerhale.com ; Press@devalpatrick.com ;
olived@sen.parl.gc.ca ; bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com ;
broy@ogilvyrenault.com ; cumby.meghan@dailygleaner.com ;
stronach.b@parl.gc.ca ; day.s@parl.gc.ca ; iwhitehall@heenan.ca ;
jchretien@heenan.ca ; rheenan@heenan.ca ; duffy@ctv.ca ;
tomp.young@atlanticradio.
dykstrafarms@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: s.r.hewitt@bham.ac.uk
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: editor@pentictonwesternnews.
Cc: spotlight@cablerocket.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: mail@citizen.on.ca
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:23 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ian.walsh@gnb.ca
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ejshea@gov.pe.ca
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: comartin.j@parl.gc.ca ; Brown.G@parl.gc.ca ; cotler.i@parl.gc.ca ;
Hawn.L@parl.gc.ca ; Menard.S@parl.gc.ca ;
scarpinelli@publicintegrity.
MacKenzie.D@parl.gc.ca ; Chan.R@parl.gc.ca ; Bevilacqua.M@parl.gc.ca ;
Batters.D@parl.gc.ca ; Siksay.B@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ;
Komarnicki.E@parl.gc.ca
Cc: SECU@parl.gc.ca ; Breitkreuz.G@parl.gc.ca ; hollam@parl.gc.ca ;
arnold.zeman@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
Harper.S@parl.gc.ca ; Layton.J@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ;
McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca ;
gemerson@tor.fasken.com ; garth@garth.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ;
Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
news957@rci.rogers.com ; Scott.A@parl.gc.ca ; zedp@parl.gc.ca ;
leo@primetimecrime.com ; crilf@ucalgary.ca ;
giuliano.zaccardelli@rcmp-grc.
stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-
info@pco-bcp.gc.ca ; Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us ; kmearn@mpdmilton.org
; Freeman.C@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: chanr0@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: johnforan.mla@nb.aibn.com ; Chris.Baker@gnb.ca ;
yvon.leblanc3@gnb.ca ; rachel.bard@gnb.ca ; Louise.LEMON@gnb.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: amacbeath@grantthornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: bmatthews@grantthornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now Ms.
Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: freemc@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: pmartin@GrantThornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:07 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: nraynard@GrantThornton.ca ; jdelaney@GrantThornton.ca ;
kferguson@GrantThornton.ca ; blewis@GrantThornton.ca
Cc: krieger@GrantThornton.ca ; hjaffer@GrantThornton.ca ;
rgodbold@GrantThornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: gdent@GrantThornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:04 AM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ckennedy@notes.tcs.treas.gov
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: Raf.Souccar@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; tim.killam@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
martin.blais@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; harrir1@parl.gc.ca ; harrir@parl.gc.ca ;
peterj@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: leo@primetimecrime.com ; gary.bignell@peelpolice.on.ca ; crilf@ucalgary.ca
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:17 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: angie.coss@cjad.com
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact it
works
>> From: davidramos@xplornet.com
>> To: samperrier@hotmail.com; alltrue@nl.rogers.com
>> CC: deanr0032@hotmail.com; motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> Subject: This Dean dude really pissed me off.
>> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 23:42:46 -0400
>>
>> Apparentely I was summoned to stand before a Yankee Court on January 3rd
>> to answer more false criminal charges but I was not served anything and
>> nobody would talk about it. Now the day has come and gone and still
>> everybody is playing dumb.
>> It is also abundantly clear I was very wrong about this Dean kid. He
>> is a real snake in the grass. I also was invited to another one of those
>> sneaky Yahoo chat rooms on New Years Eve. Need I say I smelled foul play?
>> Remeber what I thought of Integrity BC crowd before I went to jail? When I
>> stomped on the bastards in another Yahoo Group this little prick Dean
>> showed
>> me his nasty arse. Obviously I pissed of his buddies. Ask me if I care. I
>> guess it is just another one of thise things I do that nobody seems to
>> appreciate.
>> I just spent the second miserable Xmass without my kids and I am
>> feeling as mean as a snake. My little Darlin came down with diabetes and
>> cried all Xmass day because I was not there. Rest assured there will be
>> Hell
>> to pay. because I could not make my Gracie's wish come true.
>> This is just one of many emails I received from that Dean kid in the
>> past few days. What he says of me is absolutely incredible but not
>> surprising at the same time. Rest assured I will use everyone of his own
>> words against him. However when he began slamming Sam in a couple of
>> emails
>> I figured you guys should know. If you say nothing its cool. I am about to
>> tear the little bastard a brand new arsehole to cram a couple of Newfy
>> diddlers up into .(I see Tommy Marshall has a new job eh?)
>> Notice how the chickenshit out west claims Hickman is behind me and
>> Sam works with Hickman? A lot he knows eh? Does this kid even know how to
>> read or does he just cut and paste everything? Curiousity has got the cat.
>> I must ask Byron is he one of the dudes that warned you away from me?
>> Happy New Year fellas
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dean Ray" <deanr0032@hotmail.com>
>> To: <davidramos@xplornet.com>; <4humanitysake@comcast.net>;
>> <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.
>> <atvnews@ctv.ca>; <cap871@hotmail.com>; <Catboat15@aol.com>;
>> <erniemusic2@yahoo.com>; <irock96@hotmail.com>;
>> <gerryduffett47@yahoo.com>;
>> <human_rights_1@yahoogroups.
>> <marsboy683@yahoo.com>; <One_World_Religion@
>> <rghouseholder@msn.com>; <your_neighbor_2000@yahoo.com>
>> <c.sperr@comcast.net>; <dblaron67@yahoo.com>; <derrickcrobinson@gmail.com>
>> Cc: <Harper.S@parl.gc.ca>; <Iolmisha@cs.com>; <jhughes164@yahoo.com>;
>> <jstc4emsurvivors@yahoo.com>; <Justice4Tyrell@yahoogroups.
>> <laceupboots@hotmail.com>; <mc_victim@hotmail.com>;
>> <midnightladync@yahoo.com>; <orwelltoday@orwelltoday.com>;
>> <september_eleven_vreeland@
>> <catfishwithlips@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:55 PM
>> Subject: If your trying to imply you are a investigative team fintrac or
>> fbsa who do you?
>>
>>
>> > http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I cross references Yves Bourduas with freemasons and found nothing
>> Probably
>> > nothing under clean up of Iluminati either. He is not cleaning up any
>> > terrorist more like cleaning up dissidents or pissed off citizens. I
>> > believe you are an agent trying to set up Byron Prior to do something
>> crazy
>> > and attempt to protect T Alex Hickman a rich Baby diddler.
>> > why would you send me this garbage? You seen saddam hanged do you
>> > realize
>> > how close the New World Order is to falling apart. Do you realize what
>> the
>> > citizens will do to you if you are guilty. What you have done to Byron
>> > Prior Is treason !!!!
>> >
>> > why not just clear your name you have my questions?
>> >
>> > Is Collin Robinson the guy who raped my cousin connected to your clan?
>> > This guy erased critical research on T Alex Hickman while I was at work
>> > I
>> > stored my computer at my Aunts place?
>> > Why is your best buddy Sam Perrier doing business with T Alex Hickman?
>> >
>> > Why did you sit back and watch Jeremy Swanson blead dry poor Byron
>> Prior?
>> >
>> > Then show up out of nowhere too late? Nobody contacted you How did you
>> > know anything was going on? you brag you see everything....
>> >
>> > What group owns that club that backed your parliament adventures?
>> >
>> > You brag you have escape vehicles all over does Your baby diddler friend
>> > T
>> > Alex Hickman pay for that?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Am i correct that you are connected to Hells Angels and those vehicles
>> > are
>> > paid for by blood money?
>> >
>> > If that is the case how many children have to die so that you live?
>> >
>> > DId you tell someone to play bumper tag with me on the highway?
>> >
>> > Answer all my queries and I stop otherwise I just go till I am stopped.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 38th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION
>> > Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency
>> > Preparedness
>> >
>> >
>> > EVIDENCE
>> > CONTENTS
>> >
>> > Tuesday, December 7, 2004
>> > Pierre-Yves Bourduas, Deputy Commissioner, Federal Services and Central
>> > Region, Royal Canadian Mounted Police: I will start by talking about
>> > Canada's anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing regime,
>> > which
>> > impacts on two separate branches of the RCMP. The RCMP Proceeds of Crime
>> > Branch is the authority that oversees the AML regime, and the National
>> > Security Operations Branch is the authority reporting on the ATF regime.
>> >
>> > The RCMP was provided with 34 positions in total that were assigned to
>> money
>> > laundering units across Canada and to RCMP Headquarters. Their
>> > responsibilities include assessing money laundering intelligence
>> > received
>> > from the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada,
>> > or
>> > FINTRAC, the Canada Border Services Agency and others. Originally, the
>> RCMP
>> > did not any receive resources under the initiatives to address ATF
>> > issues.
>> >
>> > One of the key areas that must be addressed in this legislative review
>> > is
>> > the expansion of the current list of designated information that FINTRAC
>> is
>> > legislated to disclose to law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
>> >
>> > As stated in the consultation paper, the 2004 Report of the Auditor
>> General
>> > of Canada and the Year Five Evaluation of the National Initiatives to
>> Combat
>> > Money Laundering and Interim Evaluation of Measures to Combat Terrorist
>> > Financing, the effectiveness of FINTRAC disclosures are limited by
>> > legislative restrictions that constraint the information that can be
>> > disclosed.
>> >
>> > The most valuable addition would be a narrative underlying the rationale
>> for
>> > disclosing and, more specifically, the reason for suspicion. This
>> > information, if provided, would improve the value of FINTRAC
>> > disclosures,
>> > eliminate duplication of effort and ultimately enhance Canada's AML and
>> ATF
>> > regimes.
>> >
>> > Many private businesses under the protection of section 462.47 of the
>> > Criminal Code of Canada continue to make direct voluntary disclosures to
>> the
>> > RCMP, and most of these disclosures contain more information than what
>> > is
>> > actually received from FINTRAC. Although some are voluminous, they are
>> > accompanied by a brief explanation of why the institution considers the
>> > transaction suspicious. This narrative can save investigators
>> > considerable
>> > time and analytical effort.
>> >
>> > It should be stressed that Canadian law enforcement is not seeking
>> > direct
>> > access to FINTRAC information. Although unique internationally, the RCMP
>> > continues to respect its arm's-length relationship with FINTRAC and the
>> need
>> > to ensure personal information under its control is protected. However,
>> once
>> > this independent agency has reasonable grounds to suspect that their
>> > information would be relevant to investigating or prosecuting a money
>> > laundering offence, this information should be made more readily
>> > available
>> > to Canadian law enforcement agencies at large.
>> >
>> > Further, the RCMP believes consideration should be given to lowering the
>> > threshold for obtaining production orders from ``reasonable grounds to
>> > believe'' to ``reasonable grounds to suspect'' on the balance of
>> > probabilities. This would result in a more efficient and effective
>> > system
>> > and would ultimately strengthen our ability to deal with the money
>> > laundering issue.
>> >
>> > The RCMP is keenly interested in the Department of Finance's continuing
>> > negotiation with the legal profession to develop a new legislative and
>> > regulatory regime that better takes into account the duties of legal
>> > counsel. The RCMP agrees with parliamentarians, the Auditor General and
>> the
>> > media that the exclusion of the legal profession poses a significant gap
>> in
>> > Canada's regime.
>> >
>> > It is clear that due to the special privileges the legal profession is
>> > granted, this is a sensitive area. It is also the reason why the
>> > Interpretative Notes of the Forty Recommendations allow for flexibility,
>> > including allowing professions such as the legal profession to send
>> > their
>> > Suspicious Transaction Reports to their appropriate self-regulatory
>> > organization, provided that there are appropriate forms of cooperation
>> > between these organizations and the financial intelligence unit.
>> >
>> > Anyone, including lawyers, who act as a financial intermediary must
>> > accept
>> > responsibility to ensure they are not moving criminal or terrorist
>> proceeds.
>> > Failure to have any segment of society accept this responsibility makes
>> them
>> > the weak link and a potential target. The FATF recommendations clearly
>> > do
>> > not impede access to legal counsel and serve the interests of society
>> > without impacting solicitor-client privilege.
>> >
>> > The RCMP supports the inclusion of diamond, precious metals and stones
>> > as
>> a
>> > reporting entity under the act. This would require the reporting of
>> > large
>> > cash and suspicious transactions and a range of client identification
>> > and
>> > record- keeping requirements by the industry.
>> >
>> > As stricter regulations are imposed on businesses in the financial
>> services
>> > industry, criminals are seeking alternative methods of laundering the
>> money
>> > accumulated from criminal activity. Various characteristics of the
>> industry
>> > make it highly vulnerable to criminal activity.
>> >
>> > The RCMP fully supports the government's proposal to amend the act and
>> > its
>> > regulations to establish a registration regime for money services
>> businesses
>> > and foreign exchange dealers for the purpose of anti-money laundering
>> > and
>> > anti- terrorist financing measures.
>> >
>> > Recent investigations across Canada clearly exemplify how the absence of
>> > licensing or registration in Canada makes this sector highly attractive
>> > to
>> > money laundering criminals looking for alternatives to the regulated
>> banking
>> > sector. This sector continues to grow as they continue to be found in
>> > convenience stores, clothing stores, restaurants, book stores, video
>> stores,
>> > nail polishing stores, wireless communication stores, jewellery stores
>> > and
>> > travel agencies.
>> >
>> > The ``white label'' ATMs are non-bank ATMs owned and operated by
>> independent
>> > service operators and without any known financial institution logo. They
>> are
>> > mentioned briefly in the Department of Finance's discussion paper as an
>> area
>> > the government will be reviewing in the future. The RCMP encourages this
>> > review as investigations continue to indicate that these machines
>> represent
>> > an ideal method to launder significant amounts of money.
>> >
>> > The RCMP is part of an initiative led by the Department of Finance that
>> > sought additional resources for consideration in the 2006 federal
>> > budget.
>> It
>> > appears the RCMP will enhance its resource level under the National
>> > Initiative to Combat Money Laundering, NICML, both within our Proceeds
>> > of
>> > Crime Branch and our National Security Operations Branch. The latter is
>> > expected to receive 12 additional resources, which will be allocated to
>> the
>> > operational divisions. These new investigators will help build up
>> > capacity
>> > in the three major financial centres where the majority of information
>> > is
>> > received from FINTRAC. The addition of new resources to the program will
>> > still require prioritization of activities; however, it will allow for a
>> > more balanced approach and ultimately allow law enforcement to truly
>> > test
>> > the ``value added'' of the Canadian money laundering strategy.
>> >
>> > Maureen Tracy, Director General, Enforcement Programs Directorate,
>> > Enforcement Branch, Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA): Before I
>> > begin,
>> on
>> > behalf of the Canada Border Services Agency, I would like to thank the
>> > deputy chairman for his kind words in introducing us. As a very new
>> > agency
>> > with a broad mandate and many expectations placed on us, it is very good
>> to
>> > hear the support that comes from the Senate and others.
>> >
>> > I would like to thank you very much for the invitation to come and
>> > speak.
>> > Our administration of Part 2 of the proceeds of crime legislation is a
>> major
>> > component of our enforcement program, and we are quite proud of the
>> results
>> > we have achieved over the last few years.
>> >
>> > I would like to give you a brief overview of the role of the Canada
>> > Border
>> > Services Agency as it relates to the National Initiative to Combat Money
>> > Laundering, or NICML, and the international fight against money
>> > laundering
>> > and terrorist financing in general. I will also provide information on
>> > how
>> > we have organized ourselves to deliver this program in the field and the
>> > successes we have had to date.
>> >
>> > As you are aware, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist
>> > Financing Act, which received Royal Assent in June 2000, was introduced
>> > to
>> > remedy shortcomings in Canada's anti-money laundering legislation. The
>> > act
>> > was aimed at implementing specific measures to combat money laundering,
>> > including the requirement to report cross- border movements of currency
>> and
>> > monetary instruments equal to or greater than a prescribed amount to the
>> > Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada, FINTRAC.
>> >
>> > Bill C-36, the anti-terrorist omnibus bill, expanded the scope of the
>> > legislation to also combat terrorism. The name was changed to the
>> > Proceeds
>> > of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act, PCMLTFA.
>> >
>> > The Canada Border Services Agency is responsible for the administration
>> and
>> > enforcement of Part 2 of the act, which requires every person or entity
>> > to
>> > report to a CBSA border officer the importation or exportation of
>> > currency
>> > or monetary instruments valued at $10,000 Canadian or greater. The
>> reporting
>> > requirements under the legislation encompass all modes of travel,
>> including
>> > air, highway, rail and marine, and all methods of importation and
>> > exportation, that is, personal travellers, vehicles, commercial cargo,
>> > courier and postal.
>> >
>> > >From an administrative perspective, the CBSA collects cross-border
>> currency
>> > reports from travellers and commercial entities. Officers also assist
>> > travellers and businesses in complying with the currency reporting
>> > forms.
>> In
>> > other words, we have a service provision responsibility in this regard
>> > as
>> > well. The completed reports are transmitted to FINTRAC for analysis.
>> >
>> > >From an enforcement perspective, the CBSA has the authority to search
>> > and
>> > seize non-reported currency and monetary instruments greater than
>> > $10,000
>> > Canadian or equivalent. Information relating to seizure actions is also
>> > transmitted to FINTRAC. All seizures are subject to appeal to the
>> > Minister
>> > of Public Safety and, ultimately, to the Federal Court of Canada.
>> >
>> > The cross-border currency reporting program of the CBSA was allocated
>> > approximately $3.2 million per year to enforce the legislation. This
>> funding
>> > was dedicated to processing and communicating reports to the field,
>> > headquarters coordination, and compliance verification and enforcement.
>> The
>> > bulk of the resources were devoted to the administration, receiving and
>> > processing of reports and to the enforcement and compliance verification
>> > activities that proceed from that.
>> >
>> > The dedicated resources were placed at high risk ports of entry,
>> > covering
>> > both the air and highway modes. There are also currency enforcement
>> > teams
>> as
>> > well as currency dog teams in place at key locations.
>> >
>> > The CBSA has also invested in a variety of detection tools, including
>> mobile
>> > X-ray units and other detection tools such as video scopes. We have at
>> > our
>> > disposal a wide range of other technologies that assist in the
>> non-intrusive
>> > examination of goods.
>> >
>> > Since the commencement of the cross-border currency reporting program in
>> > January 2003, over 100,000 import and export cross-border currency
>> > reports
>> > have been received by the CBSA.
>> >
>> > Enforcement of the legislation by the agency from inception to April 30,
>> > 2006, has resulted in over 5,100 enforcement actions, involving more
>> > than
>> > $132 million. Of the over 5,000 seizures that have been undertaken since
>> the
>> > inception of the program, just under 600 have been appealed to the
>> minister.
>> > Of those, 321 were maintained as assessed, 111 were mitigated and 49
>> > were
>> > cancelled. There are currently 37 active cases before the courts.
>> >
>> > In closing, we believe at the Canada Border Services Agency that with
>> > the
>> > implementation of this program our agency has been very successful in
>> > increasing its contribution to the international fight against
>> > transborder
>> > crime, specifically money laundering and terrorist financing. As a
>> > direct
>> > result of the program, more than $34 million in suspect proceeds of
>> > crime
>> > were forfeited and thus taken out of circulation.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: In your report, Mr. Bourduas, you mention the role
>> that
>> > lawyers play. This legislation contains an important exception for
>> lawyers,
>> > in so far as client-attorney privilege is concerned. Every citizen is
>> > entitled to legal representation. At the same time, this right impacts
>> > our
>> > objective of addressing the money laundering issue.
>> >
>> > If a lawyer deposits funds in a Canadian bank, does the bank have an
>> > obligation to ask more questions about the origins of these funds? If
>> > the
>> > bank is acquainted with the lawyer and deems him to be a credible,
>> > serious
>> > individual, does the questioning end there? What rules of disclosure
>> > apply
>> > in the case of such funds? Is it the responsibility of the lawyer or of
>> the
>> > client to disclose the source of these funds?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: There are two parts to that question, the first involving
>> > a
>> > lawyer's obligation toward his client. On looking at the provisions of
>> > the
>> > act, we believe that a lawyer also has a responsibility toward society
>> > in
>> > general to see to it that any funds a law firm is asked to handle for
>> > its
>> > client were not obtained through unlawful means.
>> >
>> > The purpose of these amendments is to ensure that lawyers adopt the same
>> > procedures as financial institutions, that is that they know their
>> > client,
>> > record the origin of the funds as such and invest these funds.
>> >
>> > We recognize the importance of attorney-client privilege. A clear
>> framework
>> > must be in place to prevent money laundering operations, since the first
>> > step is the actual investment of the funds.
>> >
>> > We want to avoid a situation where law enforcement officials arrive with
>> > a
>> > warrant to search the offices of law firm. A substantial percentage of
>> > our
>> > investigations eventually lead us to law firms that have been involved
>> > in
>> > certain questionable transactions.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: I want to be clear about this. I understand your
>> > interpretation of the provision, but are lawyers completely exempted at
>> this
>> > point in time, or only with respect to some of the transactions handled
>> > by
>> > their firm? Accountants and insurance brokers are not excluded.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: The exclusion applies to transactions that bring in
>> > substantial sums of money to the firm. Most lawyers claim to have this
>> kind
>> > of privileged relationship with their client and are not necessarily
>> > required to disclose the origins of these funds.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Take the case of a lawyer who makes a deposit. He
>> > represents a client who is not exactly on the up and up. He takes
>> > receipt
>> of
>> > a large sum of money which he then deposits in a Canadian bank. What
>> > obligation does the Canadian bank have in this case? It knows the lawyer
>> and
>> > his firm has some major accounts with this financial institution. Does
>> > the
>> > bank's responsibility end there? Should the bank ask questions about the
>> > origin of all funds that it handles? Does it have an obligation to
>> question
>> > the client?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: One of the first rules is ``know your customer.''
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: In this case, the customer is the lawyer. Correct?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: That is right.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Therefore, it is ``know your customer'' and not ``know the customer of
>> your
>> > customer.''
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: The obligation ends with the lawyer.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Correct. If, for example, the firm is a serious business
>> that
>> > handles large sums of money, then the bank has already met its
>> > obligations
>> > up to a point.
>> >
>> > The purpose of the proposed amendment to the act is to make law firms
>> > accountable. They need to know the exact origin of the funds that they
>> > handle so as to avoid having people take advantage of their credibility
>> and
>> > so that they do not become the intermediary through which funds are
>> > channeled to financial institutions.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: There are a number of lawyers, all of whom are very
>> > honourable, seated here at this table. However, occasionally we
>> > encounter
>> > some who are not so honest. The legislation gives them an opening to
>> > take
>> > advantage of the situation and possibly to launder substantial sums of
>> > money.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: You have raised a very important point. It is generally
>> > accepted that lawyers are honest individuals. This legislation seeks to
>> > protect lawyers or the legal profession per se by making lawyers legally
>> > required to declare these funds. The lawyer, therefore, has an
>> > obligation
>> to
>> > tell his client that he must report and hence disclose the origin of any
>> > funds handed over to the firm. This obligation makes the lawyer's
>> > position
>> > that much more comfortable in that he has a duty to manage his client.
>> > The
>> > burden of ensuring that the transaction is legitimate is thus shifted to
>> the
>> > lawyer and eventually, to the financial institution which will not ask
>> > question because the lawyer's credibility is already well established.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: My second question is for Ms. Tracy. Recently I was
>> > in
>> > Hong Kong and visited the port, one of the busiest in the world, if the
>> > volume of container traffic is any indication.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: To which port are you referring?
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: I am talking about the port of Hong Kong, and about
>> the
>> > port of Singapore as well. I observed that all of the trucks and people
>> > accessing the port must go through a control post where they are scanned
>> to
>> > ensure that nothing suspicious finds its way into one of the containers.
>> >
>> > Two or three weeks ago, I read in a Canadian Press article that no such
>> > procedure was followed in Canada. However, no explanation was given for
>> this
>> > oversight. Yet, Canada is a fairly wealthy country, when compared to
>> > Hong
>> > Kong or Singapore. We constantly hear how a wide variety of goods are
>> > handled at Canadian ports. Why are such procedures not in place in
>> > Canada?
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: Could it be that the equipment you are referring to is
>> radiation
>> > detection equipment?
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: It could be.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: There is good news from the CBSA on that front. We spent the
>> > better part of 18 months researching radiation detection equipment. We
>> have
>> > selected equipment that, for the moment, based on the technology that is
>> out
>> > there, is the best fix for us. I am referring to portal equipment where
>> the
>> > trucks will drive through two posts and be scanned for radiation.
>> >
>> > To get the bugs out, on a pilot basis we installed the equipment at a
>> small
>> > container port in New Brunswick, but by the end of the 2006 calendar
>> > year,
>> > we are very optimistic that we will have it in Halifax, Montreal and
>> > Vancouver. That will mean that as close as we can get to 100 per cent of
>> > containers will be scanned for radiation.
>> >
>> > In addition to that equipment, we have gamma ray technology in the form
>> > of
>> > 11 or so mobile VACIS. You pass a container through it and, in about 30
>> > seconds, you see an image of the inside of that container and can
>> determine
>> > whether the declaration is actually accurate or whether the container
>> > contains contraband.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Why is this done only at ports and not at border
>> points
>> > in general or at other major points of entry?
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: The ports are the first element of our strategy. I am aware
>> that
>> > the United States has radiation detection at their land borders. There
>> > are
>> > no plans at this time for Canada to put radiation detection at our land
>> > border. We believe we have targeted the equipment to the highest risk
>> area.
>> > In the security and prosperity partnership with Mexico and the United
>> > States, we have committed to looking at expanding the radiation
>> > detection
>> > program in concert with the United States, and that would be both for
>> > research and additional deployment, but at this point there are no plans
>> to
>> > put it at our land border.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: I wish to pursue a question that was asked by Senator
>> > Massicotte. Lawyers handle all kinds of transactions. It is certainly
>> > true
>> > that there are very honest lawyers and less honest lawyers in existence.
>> > That is true of every profession. How would you address the concerns
>> > that
>> > lawyers have expressed to you? Independent of professional privilege,
>> where
>> > a transaction is not privileged - that is, where a financial transaction
>> > takes place between two parties - both parties know that it is financed
>> > by
>> > money that may be coming from the U.K., entirely legitimately, or from
>> > any
>> > other source. The lawyer has to then make a judgment call as to whether
>> > he
>> > or she should divulge or not divulge. You have given us the beginning of
>> an
>> > answer, which is that lawyers who are known to be honest will not be
>> > considered to be involved in suspicious transactions, whereas lawyers
>> > who
>> > are known by their own institutions to be perhaps less perfectly honest
>> will
>> > be. That necessarily requires arbitrary judgments because there are no
>> > objective criteria for them. How does one justify making those judgments
>> > when one is aware of the Charter obligation to not make those judgments?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We recognize that there are governing bodies within the
>> legal
>> > profession, and our position here speaks to this point exactly. The
>> lawyers,
>> > through their governing bodies, would report to FINTRAC all transactions
>> in
>> > excess of $10,000.
>> >
>> > As Senator Massicotte mentioned, a huge gap needs to be addressed.
>> > ``Know
>> > your client'' is a slippery slope when you start leaving it to the good
>> > judgment of a particular individual who might not be seized with all of
>> the
>> > surrounding circumstances that brought this amount of cash to the
>> > lawyer's
>> > office. We are saying, let us take this burden of good judgment and use
>> > regulations to simply transfer it to an independent body like FINTRAC,
>> > for
>> > instance. They would be in a position to look at the transaction
>> > involving
>> > this individual and then look at their overall data bank to ensure that
>> this
>> > person has not used this particular law office for a single transaction
>> that
>> > would link with other suspicious transactions. That would paint a much
>> > larger picture. It does not influence or affect the good judgment of
>> > this
>> > particular lawyer. We are simply saying that we should put a system in
>> place
>> > that would allow for a much broader picture to be painted about specific
>> > transactions.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: I am not sure that your answer really responds to the
>> > concern that I am trying to express. You have suggested that, in the
>> > upcoming amendment process, the criterion for being able to go to court
>> > should be changed from ``reasonable grounds to believe'' to ``reasonable
>> > grounds to suspect.'' That is a long dimension of arbitrary judgment.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: I would like to set the record straight. I did not talk
>> about
>> > going to court. I am simply talking about a production order. We are
>> asking
>> > for a production order when we have ``reasonable suspicion'' as opposed
>> > to
>> > ``beyond a reasonable doubt.''
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: From whom would you ask for that production order?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We would ask FINTRAC for that. We are not talking about
>> going
>> > to court. It is important to realize that our main focus is to address
>> > the
>> > weakest link possible when we talk about the money laundering process.
>> > The
>> > weak links are these hockey bags filled with money. I know this from
>> > professional and personal experience, having been the manager of a major
>> > money laundering case in Montreal from 1990 to 1994, where we laundered
>> $162
>> > million over a four-year period with four undercover agents from the
>> > RCMP.
>> > We had people coming in with hockey bags full of money they wanted to
>> place,
>> > and this is the reason we have to focus corporately and collectively at
>> this
>> > stage. We have to make it a little harder for these people to place this
>> > large amount of cash.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: You told us, Ms. Tracy, that machinery and equipment
>> are
>> > in place in specific parts of the country for a variety of purposes,
>> > including the intention to create radiation screens throughout the
>> country.
>> > If I were seeking to bring something into Canada, knowing what you just
>> told
>> > us, I could simply cross into Canada elsewhere.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: That is a fair comment. The Canada Border Services Agency
>> > needs
>> > to deploy equipment to the areas that we have assessed as presenting a
>> high
>> > risk. We have to acknowledge that there are many ways an individual can
>> > bring things into the country. We are doing our best in our risk
>> assessment
>> > process to plug those gaps. We are continuing with our assessment of
>> > those
>> > risks and with our research and development into new technology.
>> >
>> > I think the inventory of equipment that is out there now - and I am
>> probably
>> > going to get this wrong but not too wrong - is in the neighbourhood of
>> > $68
>> > million. In 2000 it was something like $1.5 million, so the investment
>> > has
>> > been made.
>> >
>> > In addition, the type of equipment we have out there is much more
>> > sophisticated than we had just four or five years ago. As I mentioned,
>> > we
>> > have entered the field of radiation detection. We have much stronger
>> > gamma
>> > ray systems that provide for better screening and for the screening of
>> more
>> > cargo.
>> >
>> > Yes, you are right that it is an uphill battle when you consider we have
>> > such a large country with so many possibilities and ways for someone to
>> > enter. However, we are working on the basis of risk and will continue to
>> > deploy equipment to the areas that we see are vulnerable.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: Mr. Bourduas, what kind of training do your 34
>> analysts,
>> > and the ones you are asking for now, receive so that they can be certain
>> to
>> > understand the balance between investigative requirements and Charter
>> > requirements?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: When looking at the proceeds of crime, our analysts also
>> have
>> > to be versed in what type of criminality we are investigating. Our
>> > investigators have field experience and have gone to court with regard
>> > to
>> > substantive offences. They have operated for a number of years with the
>> > reality of the Charter and have been brought into the fold to look at
>> > the
>> > proceeds of crime legislation and ways to develop a clearer picture of
>> > the
>> > challenges we face and how we can strategically deploy our limited
>> resources
>> > to address those challenges.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Mr. Bourduas, page 3 of your brief states:
>> >
>> > ...the RCMP continues to respect its arm's length relationship with
>> > FINTRAC.... However, once this independent agency has reasonable grounds
>> to
>> > suspect that their information would be relevant to investigating or
>> > prosecuting a money laundering offence, this information should made
>> > more
>> > readily available to Canadian law enforcement agencies.
>> >
>> > This implies that you are not satisfied with the information you are
>> getting
>> > and its availability to you. Perhaps you could expand on that one
>> sentence.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: With regard to FINTRAC, we are of the opinion that the
>> current
>> > legislation talks about what should constitute ``designated
>> > information.''
>> > We also believe that the legal interpretation given to ``designated
>> > information'' is a little too narrow in scope. We would like to seek a
>> > broadening of this information and the definition of ``designated
>> > information'' so we can access additional information from FINTRAC in
>> > relation to what constitutes their reasonable grounds to believe that a
>> > transaction is labelled suspicious. We are asking for reasons to justify
>> > this referral and additional information that would allow our
>> investigators
>> > to better focus our investigation into a given area.
>> >
>> > We are satisfied with the relationship we have with FINTRAC, but we are
>> > seeking is a much broader definition or interpretation of the definition
>> of
>> > ``designated information.''
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: You would prefer it to be less onerous on their part so
>> you
>> > would receive more information; correct? Is it the quality or you just
>> want
>> > more?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: It is both the information and also the qualifier of the
>> > particular information that we are seeking.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Would this require amendments to the act to expand the
>> > amount of information that would be turned over to the RCMP?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Currently, subsection 55(7) of the act deals with
>> > designated
>> > information and talks about names and addresses, the amount and type of
>> > currency, the type of transaction, the account number, and then, at
>> > subparagraph (e), makes reference to ``any other identifying information
>> > that may be prescribed.'' That has been ruled to be very much in line
>> > with
>> > the previous four items, without broadening the definition to at least
>> allow
>> > investigators to know why FINTRAC has labelled particular information
>> > ``suspicious.'' We are seeking a broadening of the definition so that
>> > investigators can have a better idea as to why some of these
>> > transactions
>> > have been labelled ``suspicious.''
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: When we discussed the issue of privacy with officials
>> from
>> > FINTRAC, they said that a number of measures were in place to protect
>> > the
>> > privacy of the information. They also said that at the end of five years
>> > they would get rid of it unless it was sent to the police; then it was
>> eight
>> > years. What do you do with it? If you expand the amount of information
>> that
>> > they are sending over to you, then the police are getting more
>> information,
>> > which is simply information. We do not know if a particular person has
>> done
>> > anything wrong; it is just information. Do you get rid of your
>> > information
>> > after a certain number of years or does it stay in that file forever?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We would like to do something with the information, of
>> course,
>> > and that is the main thrust behind what we are seeking. We want
>> > additional
>> > information to get a much clearer picture as to what certain groups or
>> > individuals are doing in relation to financial transactions. By
>> > obtaining
>> > additional information, we would be in a better position to focus our
>> > limited resources on a particular file or referral as opposed to simply
>> > placing the referral in a queue. We have limited resources, so we also
>> have
>> > to manage risk and prioritize.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: I understand that, but let us say they could provide
>> > you
>> > with more extensive information. What happens if this additional
>> information
>> > leads you nowhere? What would you do with it in the end? Would it be
>> > discarded or would that information stay with you forever? Let us say
>> > that
>> > the information is just a name with a whole bunch of financial details
>> > and
>> > it sits in a file at the RCMP and leads nowhere. Would you get rid of it
>> > after a while?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: When it is just a name with limited information, we set it
>> > aside. We also have rules and regulations internally in relation to how
>> long
>> > we keep certain information on file. Like any other organization, at one
>> > point the information is simply discarded.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Is it destroyed or is it moved to another building?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: At some point we run out of buildings, senator; that is
>> > our
>> > reality.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: The task force on money laundering made a number of
>> > recommendations in 2003-04. One of them involved casinos not being
>> licensed,
>> > a more regulatory and supervisory regime for casinos and also ownership
>> > requirements. I think those are all provincial matters. Are the
>> > provinces
>> > that the RCMP is serving - like Saskatchewan, for example, where the
>> > RCMP
>> is
>> > our police force - not licensing properly? Do you feel the regulations
>> > are
>> > sufficient to prevent money laundering in provinces that have casinos?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: In my former life as a commanding officer in Quebec, I had
>> to
>> > deal with investigations that brought us to casinos in that province.
>> > Rest
>> > assured that these institutions, very much like other institutions, want
>> to
>> > avoid, like the plague, criminal organizations using their institutions
>> > to
>> > launder money. They are very much regulated and they do cooperate with
>> > police authorities - be it the provincial police or the RCMP - because
>> they
>> > are cognisant of the fact that their institution might be used for
>> > exactly
>> > this purpose. They closely monitor their transactions and make
>> > unsolicited
>> > reports to police agencies when they see a suspicious transaction. Under
>> the
>> > auspices of the Criminal Code, they will provide us with more
>> > information
>> > than we would normally get from an institution like FINTRAC. They want
>> > to
>> > ensure they provide us with all the information and all the related
>> > circumstances to allow the investigators to put the information into
>> > perspective.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Considering that gambling used to be a criminal
>> > activity,
>> > they might have more knowledge about it than a bank or a credit union.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Obviously, it is legal now. Rest assured that the
>> > provincial
>> > government wants to keep these types of activities from being
>> > infiltrated
>> by
>> > organized crime because it used to be managed more or less by organized
>> > crime.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: In that recommendation, the task force stated that
>> > necessary legal or regulatory measures be taken to prevent criminals or
>> > their associates from holding or being the beneficial owners of a
>> > significant or controlling interest or holding a management function or
>> > being the operator. Is there reason to suspect that casinos in Canada
>> > are
>> > infiltrated by criminals or people interested in money laundering?
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: Do you mean the ownership?
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Or the management.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Or the board of directors.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Yes.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Once again, police organizations are working closely with
>> > casinos. The majority of security forces for casinos are constituted by
>> > former police officers and are doing background checks on anyone who
>> > deals
>> > with the management of the casinos to ensure everything is above board
>> > in
>> > relation to their operation. They all know what the consequences might
>> > be
>> if
>> > anyone associated with organized crime were to have a major role in the
>> > operation of any casinos or board of directors, for that matter.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: When the RCMP receives information from FINTRAC, where
>> > does it go from there? Who do you pass it on to?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: As a result of Bill C-22, we formed a group of specialized
>> > investigators that are seized with the information they receive either
>> from
>> > FINTRAC or from CBSA. These people try to put the information into
>> > context
>> > so they can dispatch it to our proceeds of crime units that are deployed
>> > across the country.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: Would you pass this information on to Canada Revenue
>> > Agency?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Our investigators are focused on the criminal aspect of
>> > what
>> > constitutes a potential violation of the Criminal Code. Therefore, as I
>> > indicated, they would dispatch this particular information to some of
>> > our
>> > investigators who are dealing with proceeds of crime.
>> >
>> > Once the investigation has started and the piece of information that we
>> > received from FINTRAC were to help us paint a clearer picture, we would
>> give
>> > priority this investigation over others. We would deal with the
>> individuals,
>> > the organization, the substantive offence and the proceeds aspect of the
>> > investigation and would bring these individuals or the organization
>> > before
>> > the court. We also have a liaison officer who deals with the Canada
>> Revenue
>> > Agency, and some of the financial information might be passed on to the
>> CRA.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: How about other police forces?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Other police forces are part of our Combined Forces
>> > Special
>> > Enforcement Units, or CFSEUs. These units are scattered all over the
>> > country. Our ultimate goal is to put these criminals out of business.
>> >
>> > That is the reason we are striving to gain access to additional
>> information.
>> > We need more context than a name and an amount of money. We would then
>> > be
>> in
>> > a better position to actually channel this information through our
>> > CFSEUs
>> to
>> > our proceeds of crime unit and also to other police forces, if need be.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: Clearly I am pro police, but there is a question of
>> trust.
>> > I do not mind the information being there. It is okay if the information
>> > goes to a particular organization, but my worry is that it might then go
>> to
>> > a separate organization, which might then send it to all sorts of other
>> > organizations. Along the way, the public must be absolutely certain that
>> the
>> > information is always used for the reason for which it was gathered. The
>> > difficulty is that every organization has a different reason for looking
>> at
>> > that information. That, to me, is the worry. Where is the tipping point?
>> We
>> > all want to catch the bad guys and put them in jail; we all want to
>> > fight
>> > terrorism. At what point do we tip over? I suppose that is the question
>> > we
>> > are really looking at here.
>> >
>> > Also, I know you have regulations stipulating that this information must
>> be
>> > kept for a certain amount of time, but we are not talking about a
>> warehouse;
>> > we are talking about an infinite hard drive. What is the minimum amount
>> > of
>> > time you are required to hold on to files before you get them out of the
>> > system?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Bear in mind that when we investigate proceeds of crime
>> files,
>> > some of the information that relates to a particular individual must be
>> kept
>> > for a certain amount of time. In fact, we ran into problems when we
>> > discarded some information and then 10, 15 or 20 years down the road
>> needed
>> > additional information to substantiate before the court that an
>> > individual
>> > had been involved in crime for so many years. That is why we looked at a
>> > policy dealing with the disclosure of information. As I indicated, most
>> > of
>> > the time this information is put in context and we will keep it for the
>> > duration of the file. At other times, we will keep the information if
>> > the
>> > individual is the subject of interest in any other file within the
>> > organization.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: If I had been involved in crime 30 years ago, I would
>> have
>> > a record and you would have it. It would never be gone; is that correct?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: It would depend on the record. If you were to have records
>> in
>> > your personal notebook -
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: I am not talking about me, Larry Campbell. I have not
>> been
>> > a criminal for 30 years. I am speaking hypothetically. You were saying
>> that
>> > you lost all of this information because you did not have the criminal
>> > records of the person involved. However, if I were involved in criminal
>> > activity and were convicted, then I would have a criminal record that
>> should
>> > be on the files. You are talking about someone who was involved in an
>> > activity and may or may not be a criminal - you do not know - and now
>> > you
>> > want to find out more about them. That creates a problem. There is a
>> statute
>> > of limitations on most things. What we are doing here is saying, ``Let's
>> > extend this.''
>> >
>> > When I worked in the business, we could never have enough intelligence.
>> > It
>> > is a matter of bringing it all in and shifting through it. I am really
>> > having difficulty with this.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: As well, we need to give context to the intelligence, sir;
>> you
>> > are absolutely right. Our organization keeps a piece of information to
>> > ensure that it fits in some puzzle somewhere so that we can complete the
>> > picture of the individual with whom we are dealing. It is important,
>> > however, that we provide some context. If the information is not
>> > relevant
>> to
>> > any ongoing investigation or any files or the subject is of no interest
>> > to
>> > us, then we have plenty of other organizations and individuals to look
>> > at.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: I will go back to what you said before. Let us assume
>> > there is information on Larry Campbell, but nothing of relevance. That
>> kind
>> > of information does not go away. Twenty years from now, you want to be
>> able
>> > to put my name into the system, my date of birth if you have it, and
>> > have
>> > the information appear. As you said, you lost that information, so there
>> is
>> > no way of tying Larry Campbell to activities that took place 20 years
>> > ago.
>> > Suddenly, however, there is a new investigation and my name pops up.
>> > That
>> is
>> > my problem.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: I have a supplementary. I was not sure that I got my
>> answer
>> > when I asked a similar question.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell and I are both concerned. When you receive a name that
>> has
>> > been investigated, a lot of evidence has been accumulated that has
>> > nothing
>> > to do with any criminal activity. It might simply be personal
>> > information
>> > unearthed by your investigator who has talked to friends, bankers,
>> > employers, et cetera. Nothing happens with the accumulated information
>> > because there is no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing. What happens to
>> > that file? My belief is that the file is never closed and just sits
>> > there.
>> I
>> > believe that you never get rid of that file.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: As I indicated, we have retention dates on files because
>> > at
>> > one point it would become ridiculous to keep all of these files open.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: It is possible to store all of that information on
>> > computers today. Would you destroy such a file?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: All the information is disposed of after a certain length
>> > of
>> > time. The organization has parameters on discarding certain files. For
>> > example, our files on individuals involved with break and enters are
>> > destroyed after a period of time, whereas the files on more serious
>> > crimes
>> > such as murder are kept forever. There are different thresholds.
>> >
>> > I am a stickler for numbers, so I will share with you some of the
>> statistics
>> > on disclosures from FINTRAC. We received a total of 382 disclosures from
>> > FINTRAC. Nine per cent identified new or unknown individuals. This does
>> not
>> > mean we started investigations in relation to these individuals but
>> > rather
>> > that they were new or unknown to us. Fourteen per cent provided
>> > additional
>> > information to ongoing investigations. Twenty-five per cent were the
>> direct
>> > result of previous voluntary reports received from the RCMP. Sixteen per
>> > cent have been forwarded to other agencies. Twenty-nine per cent of the
>> > disclosures were associated with investigations that have been concluded
>> by
>> > the RCMP having sufficient resources to conduct investigations. Sixteen
>> per
>> > cent contained insufficient information to proceed with an
>> > investigation.
>> > Fifty-three per cent of the disclosures were concluded for the following
>> > reasons: no criminality was detected, insufficient information, no
>> predicted
>> > offence, and dated information or lack of resources. That is basically
>> what
>> > is happening with these files.
>> >
>> > Senator Baker: Unfortunately, I do not have time to ask a question of
>> > the
>> > RCMP officer who was the commanding officer for the largest cocaine
>> seizure
>> > in Canadian history, in Eastern Canada, which was called ``operation
>> > jewels,'' I believe.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: You are well informed, senator, yes.
>> >
>> > Senator Baker: He was also the investigating officer into a particular
>> biker
>> > gang operation, the substance of which has gone to trial in many cases.
>> > He
>> > is a well-versed individual on search warrants and the relevant
>> > requirements, particularly in lawyers' offices.
>> >
>> > I remind you, Mr. Bourduas, that section 488 of the Criminal Code on
>> > searches of lawyers' officers has been struck down by the Supreme Court
>> > of
>> > Canada and replaced with a set of rules. I suspect that you are telling
>> > us
>> > within that context and your operations in the past that you want to
>> obtain
>> > additional information without a search warrant, whereas you would need
>> one
>> > normally. In your recommendations to this committee, you want greater
>> > authority to obtain information without going to the trouble of search
>> > warrants.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy, my question has to do with concerns about the act and
>> > criticism
>> > levied by the courts against subsection 12(1) of Part 2, which you
>> > administer. Myriad cases have been judged before the courts in Canada in
>> > which people have been trying to get back money that was seized at the
>> > border. The criticism of the courts relates to the question that the
>> > RCMP
>> > officer mentioned a moment ago - the difference between suspicion and
>> > belief. If CBSA officers suspect something, they can seize monies
>> > crossing
>> > the border. The minister then makes a determination as to whether that
>> money
>> > should be forfeited to the Crown.
>> >
>> > The criticism levied by the courts against this procedure is that
>> > nothing
>> > under the act enables someone to get their money out of forfeiture
>> > unless
>> > they can prove definitively that the money is legitimate. There is a
>> reverse
>> > onus on the person, and no there is procedure under the act that allows
>> them
>> > to get their money back, except to question the border guard on the
>> seizure.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: The question is precisely the issue of reasonable suspicion.
>> > I
>> > was made aware this morning of the committee's interest based on
>> > testimony
>> > yesterday. I began this morning to inform myself on the judgments that
>> have
>> > been rendered to date and what is currently before the courts.
>> >
>> > I would not pretend to be able to answer, particularly now that I am
>> > informed you are a lawyer. I will not go into a great deal of detail,
>> > but
>> I
>> > will offer to provide more detailed information to the committee from
>> > the
>> > CBSA on this matter.
>> >
>> > The one thing I will say, though, is that I have not been involved with
>> this
>> > act for the whole time that it has been implemented, but I was, in a
>> former
>> > job, responsible for some of the design of the legislation - Part 2,
>> > obviously, because I have a customs background. One of the things that
>> > was
>> > very important to the drafters, and to us as well, was that we did not
>> want
>> > to trap individuals who had simply made a mistake or who did not know or
>> who
>> > were nervous about telling people because they might be robbed. We built
>> our
>> > program on that basis.
>> >
>> > Yes, the standard is reasonable suspicion, and I have some statistics.
>> > Of
>> > 5,000 enforcement actions, 595 were forfeitures. This is very different.
>> Of
>> > those remaining that were not forfeited, they were believed to be
>> > related
>> to
>> > issues of carelessness and perhaps deliberate non-reporting for whatever
>> > reason, but there was no suspicion of proceeds of crime. Our officers
>> > have
>> > been given very clear guidelines as to how to judge a level 4 seizure,
>> which
>> > is forfeiture.
>> >
>> > My point is that we are aware. The Canada Border Services Agency wears
>> > two
>> > hats. The first is that we are most definitely as an enforcement
>> > organization, but the other is that we are very conscious of how we
>> > affect
>> > the lives of the public and business in relation to imports and exports.
>> In
>> > the design of this program, and I believe I can say that in the
>> > administration of this program, we are aware of that. Obviously, if
>> > there
>> > are errors we will correct them, but we have taken safeguards and are
>> > comfortable and hopeful that the 37 cases before the courts right now
>> > will
>> > be ruled on in favour of the legislation and in favour of the agency.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: How inhibiting would it be to the success of your
>> > work
>> to
>> > have legislation stating that if no prosecution results, you must
>> > destroy
>> > records within a predetermined period of time rather than relying on
>> > your
>> > internal criteria?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We keep the records because a different set of
>> > circumstances
>> > is attached to each name. Fifty-three per cent of these disclosures did
>> not
>> > lead anywhere. Therefore, we pass on if there is insufficient
>> > information.
>> > If we can just put context to this, ultimately the file is destroyed,
>> > and
>> it
>> > is internally that we can manage this.
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: The answer was very prejudicial.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Mr. Bourduas, your summary notes that in the last
>> > five
>> > or six years, 80 or so suspicious transactions have been reported to the
>> > RCMP. My impression is that those involved in organized crime are
>> extremely
>> > creative. They can afford to be creative, given the lucrative nature of
>> > their activities. Senator Campbell, the former mayor of Vancouver, told
>> > us
>> > that marijuana trafficking alone generated revenues of $7 billion in
>> British
>> > Columbia. That is only one small component of organized crime. My guess
>> > is
>> > that we are talking about transactions worth $30 billion to $40 billion,
>> and
>> > yet, only 10 or so transactions were reported annually by FINTRAC. Only
>> $35
>> > million is assets were seized. To my way of thinking, that is only a
>> > very
>> > small percentage of all revenues associated with criminal activity and
>> money
>> > laundering operations.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: That is consistent with my findings. Only by working
>> together
>> > will we be able to acquire the legislative means that will allow law
>> > enforcement agencies and border service officers to make a dent in
>> organized
>> > crime. Existing legislation has produced some results, qualified or not,
>> but
>> > armed with more effective tools, we will be able to achieve even better
>> > results.
>> >
>> > The government has already made some strides, but it is simply a matter
>> > of
>> > tightening up some of the legislative provisions in place to ensure that
>> our
>> > investigators have the authority to do the job that they are paid to do.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Am I wrong to think that our legislation has very
>> little
>> > impact on the various kinds of criminal activity in Canada?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: No, but it is having an impact of some kind when we
>> > compare
>> > ourselves to the rest of the world, and when we take into account our
>> > resources. Our people are doing an impressive job, but we need to shore
>> > up
>> > our resources.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: How effective would you say we are? Are we 20, 30,
>> > 80
>> or
>> > 90 per cent effective?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Our Commissioner has said that our operations impact 25
>> > per
>> > cent of the 600 criminal organizations in all. There is nonetheless one
>> > important element that we are completely overlooking. My proposals are
>> aimed
>> > at bringing in more stringent legislation that would give our
>> investigators
>> > the tools to target organized crime where it hurts most, namely their
>> > financial operations.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: Honourable senators, our next two meetings will be
>> > on
>> > May 31 and June 1, when we will deal with two reports that have been
>> > sent
>> to
>> > your offices. One concerns the demographic study, which we will deal
>> > with
>> on
>> > June 1. The other relates to a revised consumer report.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Thank you very much, Deputy Commissioner.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy, thank you for coming. It flowed from the testimony you both
>> gave
>> > that you would be willing to provide further information, particularly
>> > Ms.
>> > Tracy on the issue of jurisprudence.
>> >
>> > Given the importance of what we are doing in terms of our collective
>> > security, this has not been enough time. The steering committee will
>> > consider conducting further hearings on this subject. If you feel that
>> would
>> > like to come back or have further information, either from the point of
>> view
>> > of the RCMP or your agency, I would invite you to do so.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: The point that needs clarification is the elimination of
>> some
>> > of these records from our files, and it is obviously a concern around
>> > this
>> > forum.
>> >
>> > I will endeavour to provide a reply in writing as to our policies in
>> > relation to retention dates. If you are not satisfied with the reply, I
>> > would be more than willing to come back and answer your questions.
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: That would be fine.
>> >
>> > You made a point regarding lawyers. Originally, I recall that lawyers
>> > were
>> > well covered in the legislation, but they raised issues of professional
>> > solicitor-client privilege, what some might call a moratorium on
>> enforcement
>> > against lawyers. I can tell you from personal experience that some law
>> firms
>> > actually act as if they are bound by the law. They comply and do the
>> > declarations, and everything is fine. However, there is a cadre of one,
>> two
>> > and three person practices, and I think those would be the ones that
>> concern
>> > you more. We have been informed by some of the evidence that there are
>> > discussions.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Discussions are under way between officials and lawyers.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > What is the tenor of these discussions? We are told that in the United
>> > States, in the United Kingdom and other jurisdictions, which all have
>> > the
>> > same justice system as we do and the same legal ethics and codes of
>> conduct
>> > for lawyers, they do not have this problem that we have encountered in
>> > Canada.
>> >
>> > This committee would like to find a solution. As I understood your
>> evidence,
>> > it is one of the biggest lacunas in legislation. If you could enlighten
>> > us
>> > as to where it is headed, that would be helpful.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: I certainly will.
>> >
>> > The committee adjourned.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > RCMP chief had 'no choice' but to come clean
>> > SCOTT DEVEAU
>> >
>> > Globe and Mail Update
>> >
>> > Outgoing RCMP Commissioner Guiliano Zaccardelli said Thursday in Ottawa
>> that
>> > he "had no choice" but to come clean when he realized he had made
>> > mistakes
>> > in his testimony in the case of Maher Arar. The comments came the same
>> > day
>> > as Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day faced tough questions over Mr.
>> > Zaccardelli's resignation. "I had no choice. I had never had any choice
>> but
>> > to tell the truth," Mr. Zaccardelli said during a press conference in
>> > Ottawa.
>> >
>> > Á 1100
>> > The Chair (Hon. Paul DeVillers (Simcoe North, Lib.))
>> > Mr. Guy Racine (Mayor, Reeve of the MRC Haute-Yamaska and
>> > Spokesperson for the Coalition of Mayors, City of Granby)
>> >
>> > Á 1105
>> >
>> > Á 1110
>> >
>> > Á 1115
>> >
>> > Á 1120
>> >
>> > Á 1125
>> >
>> > Á 1130
>> >
>> > Á 1135
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour (Mayor, City of Rivière-du-Loup)
>> >
>> > Á 1140
>> >
>> > Á 1145
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. André Langevin (Mayor, City of Coaticook)
>> >
>> > Á 1150
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Gilles Veilleux (Representative, City of Roberval)
>> >
>> > Á 1155
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Claude Vigneault (Mayor, Municipality of
>> Îles-de-la-Madeleine)
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean Thériault (Representative, City of Baie-Comeau)
>> >
>> > Â 1200
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean-Claude Patenaude (Representative, City of
>> > Saint-Hyacinthe)
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Ms. Colette Roy Laroche (Mayor, City Lac-Mégantic)
>> >
>> > Â 1205
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> >
>> > Â 1210
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Vic Toews (Provencher, CPC)
>> >
>> > Â 1215
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour
>> >
>> > Â 1220
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard (Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, BQ)
>> >
>> > Â 1225
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard
>> > Mr. Robert Vincent (Shefford, BQ)
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. David Christopherson (Hamilton Centre, NDP)
>> >
>> > Â 1230
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Gosselin (Municipal Counsel, City of Coaticook)
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. David Christopherson
>> >
>> > Â 1235
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Hon. Denis Paradis (Brome-Missisquoi, Lib.)
>> >
>> > Â 1240
>> >
>> > Â 1245
>> > Mr. Paul Crête (Montmagny-L'Islet-Kamouraska-
>> BQ)
>> > Hon. Denis Paradis
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Garry Breitkreuz (Yorkton-Melville, CPC)
>> >
>> > Â 1250
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Hon. Roy Cullen (Etobicoke North, Lib.)
>> >
>> > Â 1255
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. André Langevin
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard
>> >
>> > · 1300
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> ------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > CANADA
>> >
>> >
>> > Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency
>> > Preparedness
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> ------
>> > NUMBER 012
>> > l 1st SESSION
>> > l 38th PARLIAMENT
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> ------
>> >
>> > EVIDENCE
>> > Tuesday, December 7, 2004
>> > [Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]
>> > * * *
>> >
>> > Á (1100)
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> >
>> > The Chair (Hon. Paul DeVillers (Simcoe North, Lib.)): I call to order
>> > this meeting of the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public
>> > Safety and Emergency Preparedness.
>> >
>> > Our witnesses are the mayors and representatives of the
>> municipalities.
>> > We are carrying out a study on the closing of RCMP detachments in the
>> > regions. Mr. Racine, Mayor of the City of Granby, is the spokesperson.
>> >
>> > Mr. Mayor, I would like to ask you to introduce the representatives
>> > accompanying you.
>> >
>> > We usually give our witnesses about 10 minutes to make their
>> > presentation. However, I know that you have to share your time with all
>> > of
>> > the municipality representatives, so I will ask you to make all of your
>> > presentations in 30 or 40 minutes. In that way, the members will have
>> > time
>> > to ask their questions.
>> >
>> > Mayor Racine, you may begin.
>> >
>> >
>> > Mr. Guy Racine (Mayor, Reeve of the MRC Haute-Yamaska and Spokesperson
>> > for the Coalition of Mayors, City of Granby): Thank you very much, Mr.
>> > Chairman, for welcoming and agreeing to hear us. We very much appreciate
>> it.
>> >
>> > Before starting and introducing my colleagues, I'd like to take a few
>> > moments to point out the members who are with us here today. I hope I
>> won't
>> > forget any. This presentation is quite a production.
>> >
>> > With us are Mr. Vincent, member for Shefford--my riding--Mr. Crête,
>> > member for Montmagny-L'Islet-Kamouraska-
>> member
>> > for Compton-Stanstead, the Honourable Denis Paradis, from
>> Brome-Missisquoi,
>> > who was a major partner in this issue. Have I forgotten any members?
>> >
>> > An hon. member: Marc Boulianne.
>> >
>> > Mr. Guy Racine: Not to mention Marc Boulianne, member for
>> > Mégantic-L'Érable.
>> >
>> > Pardon me; I looked around a little earlier. And yet we both have the
>> > same haircut. I should have remembered. Pardon me.
>> >
>> > I'm told that the member for Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot, Mr. Loubier, will
>> be
>> > here in a few moments.
>> >
>> > Mr. Chairman, with your permission, I'd also like to note the presence
>> > in this room of the former member for Shefford, Ms. Saint-Jacques, who
>> > ardently worked on the RCMP file, and David Price. A warm hello to them.
>> >
>> > Now allow me to introduce the mayors and the mayors' representatives
>> > here with us. Some mayors couldn't be here today.
>> >
>> > So we have Gilles Veilleux, representative of the City of Roberval;
>> > André Langevin, mayor of the City of Coaticook, and Serge Gosselin,
>> > municipal councillor of the City of Coaticook; Jean Thériault,
>> > representative of the City of Baie-Comeau; Claude Vigneault, mayor of
>> > the
>> > municipality of Îles-de-la-Madeleine; Jean-Clause Patenaude,
>> representative
>> > of the City of Saint-Hyacinthe; Colette Roy Laroche, mayor of the City
>> > of
>> > Lac-Mégantic; Jean D'Amour, mayor of the City of Rivière-du-Loup, and
>> > Johanne St-Pierre, his director of communications.
>> >
>> > I am the mayor of the City of Granby and the reeve of the MRC
>> > Haute-Yamaska. I'm acting as the spokesman of the common front of mayors
>> who
>> > find this decision unacceptable.
>> >
>> > Here's how I'll proceed, Mr. Chairman. As the spokesperson, I'll read
>> > you the message summing up the issue as a whole. Then I'll hand over,
>> > for
>> a
>> > brief period, perhaps two or three minutes, to the people here with me
>> > so
>> > that they can add to the information given to you.
>> >
>> > Then we'll be pleased to answer your questions or to listen to your
>> > comments.
>> >
>> > With your permission, I'll proceed.
>> >
>> > Following the September 23, 2004 announcement, the mayors of the
>> cities
>> > affected by the closing of the RCMP detachments met with Pierre-Yves
>> > Bourduas of the RCMP. The latter explained to them that the aim of this
>> > administrative decision was to redeploy the RCMP's forces so it could
>> better
>> > fulfill its mandate.
>> >
>> > This announcement was made at the same time as Operation Cisaille was
>> > being carried out to combat marijuana cultivation. The federal
>> government's
>> > decision to close RCMP detachments in nine Quebec cities has led to the
>> > creation of a coalition of the mayors of the cities concerned, as well
>> > as
>> of
>> > the reeves of the MRCs where these RCMP detachments are located, backed
>> > by
>> > the elected members for these ridings.
>> >
>> > Á (1105)
>> >
>> > The aim of this group's concerted efforts is to request the federal
>> > government to declare a moratorium on and review this decision.
>> >
>> > The withdrawal of the RCMP from our communities is a serious threat to
>> > the security of the populations concerned and creates an opening for
>> > increased crime. The RCMP's presence was fostering better partnership
>> > with
>> > the various authorities in our communities and the local police forces.
>> >
>> > Increasingly, criminal activity is extending beyond the borders of the
>> > major urban centres and the signatories to this report object to any
>> > reorganization that drains the regions of their services, at a time
>> > when,
>> at
>> > every level, decentralization is becoming a major tool for local
>> > development.
>> >
>> > The Annual Report of the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada dealing
>> > with organized crime in Canada in 2004 says "Illicit drug activities
>> > fuel
>> > violence unlike any other criminal activity. There are socio-economic
>> costs
>> > associated with the illicit drug trade such as property crimes, assaults
>> and
>> > homicides."
>> >
>> > This same report stresses that "illicit commodities are either
>> concealed
>> > within the larger volume of legitimate commercial and traveller movement
>> > entering through designated customs entry points or smuggled
>> surreptitiously
>> > through the vast stretches of less controlled border areas." It also
>> states
>> > that organized criminals will exploit less controlled areas. It is
>> > noteworthy that the Executive Committee of the Criminal Intelligence
>> Service
>> > Canada (CISC) is chaired by the RCMP Commissioner.
>> >
>> > Let's talk about Baie-Comeau and the Baie-Comeau region. There are
>> > almost 600 km separating Baie-Comeau from the Labrador border along
>> Highway
>> > 389 in a non-urban and unwatched area, leaving the way clear for the
>> > many
>> > narcotics smugglers. The closest RCMP detachment is in Sept-Îles, 240 km
>> > away, leaving Baie-Comeau with no federal policing service. The
>> Baie-Comeau
>> > SQ detachment has only four police officers in its narcotics-related
>> > organized crime squad to cover over 900 km of roads, that is to say 600
>> > km
>> > with the Labrador border, 200 km with Tadoussac and 120 km with
>> > Baie-Trinité.
>> >
>> > Since the closing of the Baie-Comeau RCMP detachment, confidential
>> > information indicates that no maritime surveillance is happening at all.
>> > Furthermore, no joint SQ-RCMP projects are being contemplated for
>> > Baie-Comeau which, in the past, have led to arrests for trafficking or
>> > possession for the purpose of trafficking. These joint operations were
>> > making it possible to fight drug trafficking better.
>> >
>> > Since September 11, 2001, the RCMP's priority has been focused on
>> border
>> > entry points, with little surveillance of the maritime routes. The
>> personnel
>> > at Sept-Îles consists of one supervisor and three police officers who
>> > have
>> > to cover the area from Tadoussac to Blanc-Sablon and from Schefferville
>> > to
>> > Anticosti. Since their workload is already excessive for the Sept-Îles
>> area
>> > alone, maritime surveillance is currently nonexistent. The people who
>> > were
>> > working in Baie-Comeau were not transferred to Sept-Îles, but to
>> > different
>> > provinces in Canada. From eight officers on duty in Sept-Îles, there are
>> now
>> > no more than four. We can assert that the "way is open" for traffickers
>> > in
>> > Baie-Comeau, via the Seaway.
>> >
>> > For the City of Baie-Comeau, the entire maritime component of the St.
>> > Lawrence River is being left without surveillance. A lot of narcotics
>> > trafficking takes place on vessels travelling in these waters and using
>> the
>> > Baie-Comeau harbour and the Alcoa and Cargill Ltée wharfs.
>> >
>> > Á (1110)
>> >
>> > The federal wharf received 68 vessels in 2003, Alcoa 78 and Cargill
>> 119.
>> > Those vessels came from Algeria, Brazil, Sweden, Asia and the United
>> States.
>> >
>> > For Baie-Comeau, in spite of the Sûreté du Québec's efforts, their
>> > personnel is clearly insufficient: four police officers are assigned to
>> the
>> > organized crime squad to watch Highways 138 and 389 to Labrador, giving
>> > narcotics traffickers free rein.
>> >
>> > The population of the MRC Manicouagan, of which the City of
>> Baie-Comeau
>> > is part, is 31,479 residents and, to this number, must be added 3,600
>> > Aboriginal people who represent 11.4 percent of the total population.
>> >
>> > Let's talk about Coaticook. The MRC de Coaticook has 18,500
>> inhabitants
>> > and would be henceforth served by the Sherbrooke RCMP located 35
>> kilometers
>> > away and 40 minutes travel time. The agricultural producers in the
>> Coaticook
>> > region are dealing with pot growers who invade their land and corn
>> > fields.
>> >
>> > The MRC de Coaticook runs along 30 km of the US border with the states
>> > of Vermont and New Hampshire and this border would be left without
>> > surveillance except for the three border crossing points located on
>> Highways
>> > 253, 141 and 147. Finally, in the Coaticook area, Highways 253
>> > (East-Hereford - Beecher Falls), 141 (Hereford and Canaan), and 147
>> > (Stanhope) are unwatched.
>> >
>> > As regards the City of Granby and the Granby region, the RCMP has been
>> > providing an essential presence in Granby since 1949. Granby has no more
>> > than three police officers to cover a very vast territory comprising
>> > three
>> > border crossing points. The day after the announcement, the RCMP
>> > building
>> > was covered with graffiti saying "Good riddance!". All that was missing
>> was
>> > the applause.
>> >
>> > The elected member for Shefford in 2003, Diane St-Jacques, with the
>> > assistance of the mayors, prefects and RCMP, SQ and municipal police
>> > management, had obtained the government's assurance that the Granby
>> > detachment would remain open.
>> >
>> > We were told that the RCMP was to consult the elected members, mayors
>> > and other stakeholders before making any decision whatsoever, but
>> > instead
>> we
>> > were faced with a fait accompli, without any consultation having taken
>> > place, with the excuse that it had to redeploy its forces to the major
>> > centres.
>> >
>> > One might legitimately ask what Drummondville has as a major centre
>> that
>> > Granby does not. We feel that this choice is unjustified.
>> >
>> > The closing of the RCMP detachment represents a terrible loss for the
>> > city and the MRC, because, without a strong police presence, the area is
>> > open to organized crime and criminals of all sorts. The government is
>> giving
>> > free rein to cannabis growing, narcotics trafficking, alcohol
>> > bootlegging,
>> > motorcycle gangs and terrorism, while weakening the enforcement of over
>> 130
>> > federal laws.
>> >
>> > Our municipal security service in Granby cooperates regularly with the
>> > RCMP on almost a daily basis on a number of matters: criminal motorcycle
>> > gangs, narcotics trafficking, alcohol bootlegging, criminal
>> investigations,
>> > and so on.
>> >
>> > Á (1115)
>> >
>> > Should we conclude that one wants to make way for organized crime in
>> the
>> > area? Because this closure is an invitation to organized crime to head
>> > to
>> > the Eastern Townships, to our regions where the borders are open.
>> >
>> > The Sûreté du Québec and the municipal police forces cannot pick up
>> all
>> > the slack for the area served. Along with undermanning at the Sûreté du
>> > Québec due to the map revision in 2002, 174 municipal police forces have
>> > merged into 44. There is widespread dissatisfaction among the cities
>> served
>> > by the SQ and the municipal police force's job has grown. And who will
>> > end
>> > up paying for it? The citizens, of course. It will cost more to boost
>> > municipal police forces, because the SQ is undermanned and the RCMP is
>> > closing its detachments.
>> >
>> > Our citizens pay municipal taxes for municipal policing, provincial
>> > taxes for the SQ and federal taxes for the RCMP. But we are not
>> > receiving
>> > these services and, on top of that, we are not being consulted.
>> >
>> > Some RCMP staff members have, in fact, stated that their numbers are
>> > clearly insufficient to combat organized crime. As proof, the number of
>> > officers in Granby dropped from six to three in one year. The City of
>> Granby
>> > has 46,500 inhabitants, in the very heart of the MRC Haute-Yamaska,
>> > which
>> > has 78,000 inhabitants. We will become an excellent place for organized
>> > crime, near to everything and far from everything.
>> >
>> > As for the Magdalen Islands, the federal and provincial police
>> > authorities are aware that marine space is frequently used as a channel
>> for
>> > narcotics trafficking. With the Magdalen Islands being located in the
>> middle
>> > of the Gulf of St. Lawrence, the RCMP officers were vigilant in
>> > combating
>> > marine and air smuggling traffic. We can expect narcotics smuggling to
>> > proliferate once the RCMP is no longer watching the marine space.
>> >
>> > In the Magdalen Islands, the closing of the RCMP detachment will
>> affect
>> > the surveillance of marine and air narcotics smuggling and the
>> > confrontations between seal hunters and anti-seal hunting activists are
>> > likely to increase.
>> >
>> > For the Magdalen Islands, it is primarily the marine space that will
>> not
>> > be watched for possible seaborne or airborne traffic.
>> >
>> > As for the Joliette region, the MRC de Joliette detachment has existed
>> > since 1949. Two years ago, Joliette could count on more than a dozen
>> > officers serving its territory. This year, there are no more than four
>> > officers and, tomorrow, there will be nobody.
>> >
>> > Joliette cannot concur with the plan concocted by management that will
>> > have policing services for the MRC concentrated in Saint-Jérôme or
>> > Trois-Rivières. This territory will be orphaned, without a federal
>> policing
>> > service nearby. Yet, like everywhere else, crime is not decreasing. It
>> > is
>> > the entire Lanaudière region that will be deprived of policing services.
>> > Furthermore, the community pays taxes that should provide it with the
>> > same
>> > services as elsewhere.
>> >
>> > The Joliette region will be doubly penalized: firstly, by losing
>> > personnel that the citizens have paid for and, secondly, by having to
>> > increase the number of provincial or municipal officers in order to get
>> the
>> > same services. It is common knowledge that reducing the number of police
>> > officers has always resulted in an increase in crime.
>> >
>> > Á (1120)
>> >
>> > The population is worried because it seems that the RCMP is already
>> > quietly vacating the premises. The detachment is already no longer
>> > taking
>> > calls for complaints but is referring them to Saint-Jérôme.
>> >
>> > Is the Joliette RCMP detachment effectively closed and is it being
>> wound
>> > up even before we can be heard by the Justice Committee? Is the
>> consultation
>> > process only for show or to have us believe that we can influence the
>> > decision?
>> >
>> > What I'm saying about Joliette we've heard about Granby and the
>> Magdalen
>> > Islands. As you'll see in the rest of the presentation, which is coming
>> > to
>> > an end, that will be repeated. The dismantling has begun, and we're
>> > appearing before the committee today in order to be heard. It's somewhat
>> > ironic, but we have evidence in our regions that the dismantling has
>> begun.
>> >
>> > In Lanaudière, the RCMP officers were handling close to 250 cases a
>> year
>> > and conducting 100 or so searches. The statistics for the past few years
>> > attest to this.
>> >
>> > We are thus opposed to the closing of the RCMP detachment in Joliette.
>> > We do not want to be treated like a second-class region. We are a
>> > full-fledged region and we demand the same rights and privileges as
>> > other
>> > regions of Quebec and Canada. We therefore insist that the government
>> leave
>> > the detachment and officers as they are. The Lanaudière region deserves
>> > to
>> > be treated equitably. We demand the same services as elsewhere. It is
>> > our
>> > strictest right.
>> >
>> > As I mentioned, the same sentence could have been repeated from city
>> to
>> > city.
>> >
>> > Moving on to the City of Lac-Mégantic, the RCMP has been there for
>> over
>> > 50 years. The methods of the criminal groups have changed but they are
>> > now
>> > increasingly found operating locally, in rural areas, in more insidious
>> > forms. For the MRC de Granit, its low population density, accessibility
>> and
>> > isolated farm and forest land are conducive to the growing, dealing and
>> > distribution of cannabis. This region is a preferred doorway for
>> > exporting
>> > cannabis in exchange for other narcotics from the United States. The
>> > proximity of the Canada-US border (31 km) and the reassignment of the
>> > RCMP
>> > officers to Sherbrooke (130 km from Lac-Mégantic) and Saint-Georges de
>> > Beauce (110 km from Lac-Mégantic) will mean that they will no longer be
>> able
>> > to carry out regular preventive patrols along the border. The region
>> > comprises 171 kilometers of Canada-US border along the states of Main
>> > and
>> > New Hampshire. The large distances to cover significantly reduce the
>> ability
>> > of officers to respond quickly to emergency calls from customs and
>> > immigration officers.
>> >
>> > The closing of the RCMP detachments for the border municipalities will
>> > allow the criminal groups, clandestine immigrant smugglers and terrorist
>> > organizations to operate more easily. The RCMP detachments in our
>> > municipalities and the preventive patrols on our territory are
>> > deterrents
>> in
>> > the fight against organized crime. The government's restructuring is
>> > thus
>> > weakening police intervention in the rural regions.
>> >
>> > There are close to 90,000 inhabitants in the City of Rivière-du-Loup
>> and
>> > region and approximately 100 km of its border is shared with the United
>> > States. Its geographical situation makes it a very spread-out area with
>> > concentrated urbanized areas. The secondary roads and "rangs" are great
>> > places for illicit activities, mainly due to their isolation and low
>> > population density. The main criminal activities observed in this region
>> are
>> > related to drugs (growing, distribution and sale), contraband (alcohol
>> > and
>> > cigarettes) and theft networks. The closing of the RCMP detachment puts
>> the
>> > region in a vulnerable position because it will be exposed.
>> >
>> > Á (1125)
>> >
>> > The presence of a well-known motorcycle gang in the Pocatière area
>> > confirms that criminal organizations are no longer solely active in the
>> > major centres but that regional communities also have to contend with
>> them.
>> >
>> > The Rivière-du-Loup region includes infrastructures that are conducive
>> > to and facilitate the transhipment of illicit goods, whether it be via
>> > the
>> > airport, the wharf facilities or the road system. With the closing of
>> > the
>> > RCMP detachments, the municipal public security services will have
>> > additional responsibilities thrust upon them for which they do not have
>> the
>> > required expertise to conduct investigations under the many complex
>> federal
>> > laws, especially as this type of mandate does not fit the level of
>> service.
>> >
>> > Furthermore, some crimes take place in the cities but they originate
>> in
>> > neighbouring municipalities where the local police have no jurisdiction
>> > to
>> > intervene. In the same vein, many municipalities currently deplore the
>> > reduction in the number of patrols carried out by the Sûreté du Québec
>> > in
>> > their cities, since their municipal police force was abolished.
>> >
>> > The Rivière-du-Loup region has many unwatched roads and trails in the
>> > Pohénégamook, Témiscouata and Kamouraska areas that can be accessed by
>> > various means of transportation such as four-wheel drive vehicles,
>> > snowmobiles, etc.
>> >
>> > The removal of services inevitably means added costs for our citizens.
>> >
>> > As for Roberval, the priority that the RCMP claims to be giving to the
>> > Aboriginal issue also opens up a number of questions for us. The
>> Aboriginal
>> > communities that are located near urban centres may be properly served,
>> > perhaps, but what about the more northern communities of the Innu, Cree
>> and
>> > Atikamek.
>> >
>> > The demographic statistics are well known: a non-Aboriginal Quebec
>> > family produces 1.43 children per family, whereas Quebec Aboriginal
>> families
>> > produce 4.3 children per family. Thirty percent of the population in
>> > these
>> > communities is under 16 years of age with all the attending social
>> miseries
>> > (alcoholism, substance abuse, suicide, sexual abuse) experienced by such
>> > communities. The RCMP has no known strategy to follow up on these issues
>> > than to close the detachments neighbouring these communities. They
>> > surely
>> do
>> > not realize how fragile the situation is.
>> >
>> > Nobody can be happy about this situation and the presence of the RCMP
>> on
>> > federal lands is essential. The Sûreté du Québec must support the RCMP
>> > and
>> > the Aboriginal police forces but the responsibility for supporting local
>> > police forces rests primarily with the federal government. In this
>> > geographical context, what message does the Canadian government wish to
>> > deliver to the Quebec regions and the Aboriginal communities?
>> >
>> > Lastly, before concluding, I'd like to talk about the Saint-Hyacinthe
>> > region. For a number of years, the Saint-Hyacinthe region has been
>> > contending with organized crime squatting on farmland for the purpose of
>> > growing large amounts of cannabis. With the presence of the RCMP
>> detachment
>> > over the past few years, the situation has greatly improved. The RCMP
>> > represents an important deterrent in the fight against organized crime.
>> The
>> > RCMP and the SQ exchange information almost daily.
>> >
>> > In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, the mayors request that the Solicitor
>> > General decree a moratorium on the decision announced regarding the
>> > reassignment of the personnel of nine RCMP detachments in Quebec,
>> especially
>> > as this decision was made without any real consultation having taken
>> place.
>> > They invite the Solicitor General to review this matter, stay the
>> > decision
>> > and give back to the municipalities the personnel needed to carry out
>> > the
>> > RCMP's mandates.
>> >
>> > Á (1130)
>> >
>> > By closing the nine RCMP detachments in Quebec, the Canadian
>> government
>> > is sending a clear message to criminal groups: "Come out to the regions,
>> > there is no more surveillance." The new policy advocated by the
>> > government
>> > in the RCMP issue seems to be based more on an internal management
>> operation
>> > rather than on a real concern to better protect the borders and help
>> > stop
>> > organized crime and terrorism.
>> >
>> > A complete analysis of criminal movements operating in the regions is
>> > urgently needed, unless one already exists and has been ignored. It
>> > seems
>> > unlikely that the use of border detection will be as efficient and
>> effective
>> > as systematic patrolling. The Americans realized this quickly on
>> > September
>> > 11, 2001. Following the atrocious and tragic events in New York, the
>> > media
>> > brought out the fact that the American administration might have focused
>> too
>> > much on intelligence to the detriment of a more deterrent local
>> > presence.
>> >
>> > No detection surveillance or intelligence-oriented techniques could be
>> > as great a deterrent as a local presence. The minimum number of officers
>> and
>> > necessary funds must be given back to the regions so that we can fight
>> crime
>> > and the resulting social problems effectively. By losing the RCMP
>> personnel
>> > in our municipalities, we lose the synergy with our police forces and
>> > the
>> > stakeholders in the community.
>> >
>> > Everyone is decrying this decision: the mayors of the nine cities
>> > concerned; the MRC prefects; the Association des policiers provinciaux;
>> the
>> > Fédération des policiers et policières municipaux du Québec; the
>> Fraternité
>> > des policiers de la Montérégie; the Association de la Gendarmerie Royale
>> du
>> > Canada au Québec. We are unanimous in requesting that this decision be
>> > reversed, or at the very least that a moratorium be decreed, to
>> > re-examine
>> > the whole situation.
>> >
>> > We request that we be ensured that our taxes provide us with the same
>> > services as elsewhere. Crime and organized crime circles are not
>> > confined
>> to
>> > any regions, cities or borders and do not need a consultation study or
>> > to
>> be
>> > heard by committees in order to act. They are where we are not. They
>> > look
>> > for the weak link. Do not make way for them because, rest assured, they
>> will
>> > come, if they have not already done so.
>> >
>> > Mr. Chairman and committee members, thank you for your attention. With
>> > your permission, I'm going to hand over to the representatives and
>> > mayors
>> > here with me today. They will round out the brief description I've given
>> you
>> > of the regions as a whole. I'll start with the mayor of Rivière-du-Loup,
>> Mr.
>> > D'Amour.
>> >
>> > Á (1135)
>> >
>> >
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour (Mayor, City of Rivière-du-Loup): Thank you very
>> much,
>> > Mr. Racine. Ladies and gentlemen, first I want to thank you for
>> > receiving
>> us
>> > this morning. This is a particularly important subject for us.
>> >
>> > First, I'll say that the RCMP presence in Rivière-du-Loup dates back
>> to
>> > 1932. At that time, we had nine officers; from nine, the number fell to
>> > seven, then to two. We've finally just been told that, with only two
>> > resource persons, they can't adequately serve the area. I can't do
>> anything
>> > but agree with that. With two persons, how can anyone do a proper job?
>> >
>> > I don't intend to return to what my colleague, Mr. Racine, said a
>> moment
>> > ago about Rivière-du-Loup. Simply to clarify the context, I will say
>> > that
>> > Rivière-du-Loup is roughly 110 kilometers from the Atlantic Provinces
>> > and
>> > approximately 100 kilometers from Maine. We own an airport and have a
>> > deep
>> > water port nearby, the seaport of Gros-Cacouna.
>> >
>> > In short, there is a lot of traffic entering Rivière-du-Loup. With
>> > regard to the centralization of RCMP operations in Rimouski and
>> > Saint-Georges de Beauce, I would point out that Rimouski is
>> > approximately
>> > 120 kilometers from Rivière-du-Loup and Saint-Georges de Beauce 277
>> > kilometers. You can imagine the kind of situation this leads to in
>> > Rivière-du-Loup.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas, who was asked how the RCMP would continue protecting the
>> > roads that are already protected and protecting the 100 or 150 access
>> > ways
>> > scattered over the area which are not, told us that that could be done
>> > electronically. He told us--and I take the liberty of repeating his
>> > words--that access via certain roads was monitored electronically and
>> > that
>> > RCMP officers did checks. They don't move in a case of a deer, but they
>> > do
>> > if they observe regular traffic. Can you imagine a smuggler deciding
>> > that
>> > Tuesday morning at nine o'clock is his day and time? I don't think so.
>> This
>> > situation is causing a lot of concern in Rivière-du-Loup.
>> >
>> > Lastly, let me tell you that, at a time when there has never been so
>> > much drug and narcotic activity in the area, the RCMP, by the actions it
>> is
>> > taking today, that is to say its reassignment process, will jump-start
>> > the
>> > crime industry like never before. This concerns us. Today drugs are
>> > being
>> > found in elementary schools. I don't know whether that disturbs you, but
>> > that concerns me, particularly as a mayor and the father of four
>> > children.
>> >
>> > Now I'm going to talk about the effects of this situation on police
>> ...
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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 01:23:05 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I know for certain that Pierre-Yves Bourduas
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:22:57 -0400
Subject: I know for certain that Pierre-Yves Bourduas and the lawyer
Liliana.Longo and many other cops must remeber Barry Winters and his
old buddy Dean Roger Ray N'esy Pas?
To: py@pysafety.ca, gversailles@merlodavidson.ca,
Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov, clare.barry@justice.gc.ca,
Gib.vanErt@scc-csc.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca,
maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca, Erin.Weir@parl.gc.ca,
bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca,
Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca, Hon.Chrystia.Freeland@canada.
Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
attorneygeneral@ontario.ca, matthew.giovinazzo@ontario.ca,
martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca,
ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, premier@ontario.ca,
daniel.gosselin@cas-satj.gc.ca
Bruce.Preston@cas-satj.gc.ca, Beatriz.Winter@cas-satj.gc.ca,
warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca,
Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca, Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov, Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
pm@pm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca, Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca,
dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com,
jbosnitch@gmail.com, birgitta@this.is, birgittajoy@gmail.com,
editor@wikileaks.org, ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk,
djtjr@trumporg.com, Beverley.Busson@sen.parl.gc.ca
Guy.Bujold@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca, Lesley.McCoy@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca,
Karen.Leibovici@crcc-ccetp.gc.
Cc: "David.Raymond.Amos" <David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com>
"Liliana.Longo" <Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: "Gary.Rhodes" <Gary.Rhodes@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "rod.knecht"
<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>
<Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "deanr0032" <deanr0032@hotmail.com>,
"sunrayzulu" <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca, "David
Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:09:11 AM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
----- Original Message -----
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To: "Claude Aubin" <aubinc@cactuscom.com>; "pm" <pm@pm.gc.ca>;
"marc.garneau.a1" <marc.garneau.a1@parl.gc.ca>; "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>
<presse@philippecouillard.com>
<meerang.rb@gmail.com>; <media@georgetakach.ca>; <info@georgetakach.ca>;
<info@martincauchon.ca>; <media@martincauchon.ca>;
<policy.karenforcanada@gmail.
<media@davidbertschi.ca>; <info@pierremoreau.ca>
Cc: <peter.penashue@parl.gc.ca>; <Darcey@metisonline.ca>; <jriche@innu.ca>;
<trussell@nunatukavut.ca>; <minister@aadnc-aandc.gc.ca>;
<ministre@ec.gc.ca>; <Marjory.LeBreton@pco-bcp.gc.
<DuaneM@metisnation.ca>; <info@pco-bcp.gc.ca>;
<peter.penashue@pco-bcp.gc.ca>
<brycefequet@
Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca
<appa@sen.parl.gc.ca>; <bcm@international.gc.ca>; "RBauer"
<RBauer@perkinscoie.com>; "bginsberg" <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:57 PM
Subject: Yo Harper Just exactly how dumb is your French buddy Claude Aubin????
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To: "elisabeth.graff" <elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca>; "weststar"
<weststar@telus.net>; "premier" <premier@gov.bc.ca>
Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 9:33 PM
Subject: Fwd: DOD Auditor General and alan.white@cbc.ca
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Subject: DOD Auditor General and alan.white@cbc.ca
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From: Tiredofamos Yup <tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:07:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: dean Ray <deanr0032@hotmail.com>
To: "tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca" <tiredofamosyup@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:55:47 PM
Subject: FW: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: "pm" <pm@pm.gc.ca>; <Office@tigta.treas.gov>; <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>;
<mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov>; "Gilles.Moreau" <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
<ron.klain@revolution.com>; <dboies@bsfllp.com>; <tolson@gibsondunn.com>;
<bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>; "ed.pilkington" <ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>
"news" <news@thetelegraph.com.au>; "leader" <leader@greenparty.ca>
Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>; <gregory.craig@skadden.com>;
<Patrick.Fitzgerald@skadden.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:27 PM
Subject: Re Teddy Baby Olson was on Fox News today yapping about
Presidential enemies list as he represents the crooks in Koch Industries???
If anyone should know about such things it is Olson after all he assisted
Ashcroft and Bush against me
Hey
As Harper sits and bullshits his cohorts in the Council of Foreign
Relations in the Big Apple today I bet he was listening to what was
happening with Obama and the IRS and Holder and his DOJ minions
in Washington.
Hevery body and his dog knows Harper knew about my battles with
the US Treasury and Justice Depts way back when he was the boss of
the opposition in Canada's Parliament. Two simple files easily found on
the Internet cannot be argued.
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
http://www.archive.org/
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Office of Chief Counsel, Treasury.
Inspector General for Tax Administration, (202) 622-4068.
When Teddy bitches about polticians using the IRS to attack their enemies
because
he knows it true because he helped Bush the IRS against me when Obama was
just a
State Senator .
The proof was when I sent him the documents that came along with the letter
found on
page 13 of this old file Teddy Baby Olson quit as Solicitor General.
http://www.checktheevidence.
Harper and every body else knows It was no coincidence that I sent the
lawyers Olson
as Solicitior General, Ferguson as the co chair of the Federal Reserve Bank
and J Strom
Thurmond Jr the youngest US Attorney the same pile of documents on April
Fools Day 2004.
The sad but terrible truth is that legions of cops, lawyers polticians and
bureaucrats in Canada
and the USA knew about the US Secret Service coming to my home after dark on
April Fools
Day 2003 bearing false allegations of a presidential threat and threatening
to use their implied
right to use exta ordinary rendition against me as a non citizen less than
two weeks after the
needless War in Iraq began and no WMD were ever found.
You can bet dimes to dollars I called some Yankee Inspector Generals
(starting with 202 622 4068)
and reminded them that I am still alive and kicking and reminding the world
of their malicious
incompetence
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
PS Below you can review some emails I sent you and your Yankee cohorts such
asTeddy Baby Olson
before Obama was reelected EH Harper? In truth I would rather settle in
confidence with Obama then
sue the Hell out of the CROWN and the Holy See Trust that the evil old Judge
Bastarache has known
why for a very long time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <sancanadahelp@gmail.com>; <rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>; "mbastarache"
<mbastarache@heenan.ca>
Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: I just called from 902 800 0369
Welcome members and sorry again
Posted on November 13, 2012 by Dave Mantin Welcome to SANCanada, it
stands for Sexual Abuse Network of Canada, formally known as S.N.A.P
Atlantic Groups ( Survivors Network of Those Abused by Pedophiles ).
In the next few days we will update this site with all the information
that we had on all 5 of our old sites. And in addition of the name
changes and websites, I have spoken to our board of directors and we
feel that we can now go Canada wide instead of just the Atlantic
provinces because of support that our groups have and how many people
we have been able to help through this struggle .
No one knows better on how your feeling than someone that has been
through it, We have collect a great number of victims to assist us in
answering any questions you may have when you are ready to deal with
the past.
Anyone that has been sexually abused, weather it be last week or 60
years ago, or if it was a family member, friend, priest, or school
activities please call or email us anytime.
Dave Mantin
Email sancanadahelp@gmail.com
Phone 5066095725
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: "Rob Talach" <rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
a lot to you
http://www.checktheevidence.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <gregory.craig@skadden.com>; <Patrick.Fitzgerald@skadden.
Cc: <pm@pm.gc.ca>; <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<NewsTips@turner.com>; <patrick.j.fitzgerald@usdoj.
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; <bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net
"MulcaT" <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>; <erin@issaforcongress.com>;
<john@issaforcongress.com>; <darrell@issaforcongress.com>;
<RBauer@perkinscoie.com>; <MElias@perkinscoie.com>;
<aculvahouse@omm.com>; <counsel@barackobama.com>;
<granthuihi@garyjohnson2012.
<Rathika.Sitsabaiesan@parl.gc.
<george.osborne.mp@parliament.
<public.enquiries@hm-treasury.
<michael.geller@rbs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Mr Obama and his lawyer Mr Bauer are no doubt well aware
of why the US Treasury Dept in Alanta and many others are nervous EH
Mr Harper?
Why am I not surprised? We all know Chicago aint my kind of town EH
Greg Craig???
http://www.scribd.com/doc/
Former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald will join Skadden, Arps,
Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP on Oct. 29 as a partner
From: Fitzgerald, Patrick J. (USAILN) <Patrick.J.Fitzgerald@usdoj.
Subject: Automatic reply: Mr Obama and his lawyer Mr Bauer are no
doubt well aware of why the US Treasury Dept in Alanta and many others
are nervous EH Mr Harper?
To: "David Amos"
Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 5:45 PM
I have retired from the government and will no longer have access to
this email. If you need to contact the US Attorneys Office about a
matter, please contact the following phone number for directions as to
where to address your inquiry: 312-353-6742.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: pm@pm.gc.ca ; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com ;
motomaniac333@gmail.com ; NewsTips@turner.com ;
patrick.j.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov ; bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net ; MulcaT ; erin@issaforcongress.com ;
john@issaforcongress.com ; darrell@issaforcongress.com
Cc: RBauer@perkinscoie.com ; MElias@perkinscoie.com ;
aculvahouse@omm.com ; counsel@barackobama.com ;
granthuihi@garyjohnson2012.com ; gregory.craig@skadden.com ;
icnucnwecan@yahoo.com ; Rathika.Sitsabaiesan@parl.gc.
riho.kruuv@mfa.ee ; george.osborne.mp@parliament.
public.enquiries@hm-treasury.
michael.geller@rbs.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:44 PM
Subject: Mr Obama and his lawyer Mr Bauer are no doubt well aware of
why the US Treasury Dept in Alanta and many others are nervous EH Mr
Harper?
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http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
Just go back six more years in case you forgot EH Harper???
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
Bob Bauer a former blogger for Huffington Post returned to Perkins $
Coie after a period of service to President Barack Obama as his White
House Counsel from December of 2009 until June of 2011.
He is now General Counsel to the President’s re-election committee, to
Obama for America, and General Counsel to the Democratic National
Committee. He has also served as co-counsel to the New Hampshire State
Senate in the trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000); general
counsel to the Bill Bradley for President Committee (1999-2000); and
counsel to the Democratic Leader in the trial of President William
Jefferson Clinton (1999).
He has co-authored numerous bipartisan reports, including "Report of
Counsel to the Senate Rules and Administration Committee in the Matter
of the United States Senate Seat From Louisiana" in the 105th Congress
of the United States (March 27, 1997); "Campaign Finance Reform," A
Report to the Majority Leader and Minority Leader of the United States
Senate (March 6, 1990); and "The Presidential Election Process in the
Philippines" (1986), a bipartisan report prepared at the request of
the Chairman and Ranking Member of the U.S. Senate Committee on
Foreign Relations.
Too bad so sad the lawyer Obama didn't ignore his legal counsel and
check my work for himself long ago. It is clear to me that Bob Bauer
never studied Maritimers and their lawsuits as closely as I studied
his work over the years.
http://www.checktheevidence.
If Obama does not finally simply say my name and expose what he knows
about Romney and I way back before he was even a Governor then he
deserves to lose this election.
However even though I would NOT wish to see another GOP president you
and your Bankster buddies won't mind that a bit but I doubt the NDP
and the Liberals will agree EH Mr Prime Minister?
http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
Some wise should scroll to the botom of this email and unserstand that
it was Fidelity that knowly sold the Title Insurance on the fruldulent
sale of my family's home in 2005 then Citizens Bank illegally recorded
the discharge of a mortage long after the deal was done and I heve the
records from the Registry of Deeds. Clearly the Royal Bank Of Scotland
and British FSA has ADMITTED knowing all this for wat past too long.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov>; "RBauer" <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>;
"bginsberg" <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>; "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<andre@jafaust.com>; "andremurraynow" <andremurraynow@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:03 AM
Subject: Good evening Special Agent Mark Vespucci Say Hoka Hey to Mr
Obama's lawyer for me will ya???
You dudes can find this email right here
http://thedavidamosrant.
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
the USDOJ for me will ya?
To: RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>; <MElias@perkinscoie.com>
Cc: <aculvahouse@omm.com>; "David Amos"
<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:49 PM
Subject: Remember me Mr Bauer??? No doubt Mr Elias does EH?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos" <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <KVogel@politico.com>; <MElias@perkinscoie.com>; <jaf123@aol.com>;
<media@alfranken.com>; <rob.heller@marquiswhoswho.com
<thielen@republicanlawyer.net>
<tokyo@ubp-group.com>
Cc: "webo" <webo@xplornet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re :USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNYc
Hey
I just called you correct Mr Vogel? (703 647 7985) You do work for a
publicly held Corp and you are supposed to conduct yourself ethically
as a journalist CORRECT? If you don't think that I am the guy who
caused Bernie Madoff to suddenly plead guilty last month and am
justifiably pissed off today then you best read this email and the
following ones real slow.
You did ask me to cut to the chase correct Kenny Baby? My answer was
Cya in Court Correct? Now my question is do you have a lawyer and does
he understand the power of emails as evidence in legal matter? If not
perhap he should ask the lawyer Elias why I am so pissed off after you
forward him this and the following emails EH? (FYI I called Elia
office too 202.434.1609 and read his assistant the riot act while I
was doing so other lawyers were studing me rathe dilently scroll to
the bottom of this email to see the proof)
After breaking the icecap on my name in the media yesterday I am
speaking again today on Dr Bill Deagle's radio show on GCN. My
intention today as I speak again on Dr Bill's show is to try to expose
my knowledge of what Barack Obama and his cohorts knew about my
concerns beginning back in 2004 long BEFORE he was elected Senator and
how he quite likely used the material I sent him byway of his
assistant Peter Coffey to become the keynote Speaker at the Democrat's
convention in July of 2004 that gave rise to his popularity with the
malevolent assistance of Howard Dean and many others. Perhaps you
should tune in to the alternate media for your source of true info.
On a personal level in the strange world of coincidences it was a
Yankee Judge named Coffey who was my neighbor in Milton MA (the town
where George H. W. Bush was born) that became involved in my false
imprisonment in Boston in October of 2004 based on an unsigned illegal
criminal complaint in a court with no jurisdiction to even atempt to
hear such a matter in the first place. More importantly Dennis
Kucinich knew everything a year before that happened when he was
running for the presidentil nonination in 2003 and 2004. Just before
my phone line was cut in Milton MA I called Kucinich office they
acknowledge hhis response to me in 2003 but denied knowing what I sent
his lawyer lady friend at the time. When invited him to come to court
on October 1st, 2004 to help me impeach George W. Bush. Kucinich's
people declined my offer just like my wife's Yankee lawyer Barry
Bachrach who also chickened out. Not long after that call my phone
line was cut and I went to jail without being legally arrested and
held under the charges of "other" in solitary confinement without bail
until the Canadian Department of Foreign Affairs paid me a visit. No
kidding I hve the documentation posted in my files within SCRIBD.
Google me sometime before you dare to call me a liar or a nut. Clearly
I studied you dudes. It was not a cold call today EH?
http://www.answers.com/topic/
http://investing.businessweek.
http://www.politico.com/
http://www.perkinscoie.com/
To put this simply as possible reading this nonsense of yours offends me.
http://www.politico.com/news/
Start reading my emails to see why Yankee.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
______________________________
From: davidramos@xplornet.com
To: 4humanitysake@comcast.net; 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
a_jones10467@yahoo.com; atvnews@ctv.ca; cap871@hotmail.com;
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mcclellandt@netzero.com; One_World_Religion@
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your_neighbor_2000@yahoo.com; warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca;
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Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to MacKay
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 01:41:19 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: TruthAGAINSTtradition@
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; py.bourduas@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
InfoWarz@rovin.net
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:26 AM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: dutydesk@torontopolice.on.ca ; vpd@vpd.ca ; eps@police.edmonton.ab.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ottawairc@state.gov
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Fw: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: doralee.smith@pwgsc.gc.ca ; MacKay.P@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Please press print on this attachment and give it to
MacKay
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: eamacleod@cbrmps.cape-breton.
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; Oda.B@parl.gc.ca ;
paul.dube@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; Henry McCandless ; dwatch@web.net ;
president@utoronto.ca ; chris.cunningham@utoronto.ca
Cc: Dykstra.R@parl.gc.ca ; solberg.m@parl.gc.ca ;
thompson.g@parl.gc.ca ; toews.v@parl.gc.ca ; Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us
; ruby@ruby-edwardh.com ; fbinhct@leo.gov ;
patrick.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov ; Russell_Feingold@feingold.
stephen.cutler@wilmerhale.com ; Press@devalpatrick.com ;
olived@sen.parl.gc.ca ; bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com ;
broy@ogilvyrenault.com ; cumby.meghan@dailygleaner.com ;
stronach.b@parl.gc.ca ; day.s@parl.gc.ca ; iwhitehall@heenan.ca ;
jchretien@heenan.ca ; rheenan@heenan.ca ; duffy@ctv.ca ;
tomp.young@atlanticradio.
dykstrafarms@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: s.r.hewitt@bham.ac.uk
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: editor@pentictonwesternnews.
Cc: spotlight@cablerocket.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: mail@citizen.on.ca
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:23 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ian.walsh@gnb.ca
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ejshea@gov.pe.ca
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: comartin.j@parl.gc.ca ; Brown.G@parl.gc.ca ; cotler.i@parl.gc.ca ;
Hawn.L@parl.gc.ca ; Menard.S@parl.gc.ca ;
scarpinelli@publicintegrity.
MacKenzie.D@parl.gc.ca ; Chan.R@parl.gc.ca ; Bevilacqua.M@parl.gc.ca ;
Batters.D@parl.gc.ca ; Siksay.B@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ;
Komarnicki.E@parl.gc.ca
Cc: SECU@parl.gc.ca ; Breitkreuz.G@parl.gc.ca ; hollam@parl.gc.ca ;
arnold.zeman@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
Harper.S@parl.gc.ca ; Layton.J@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ;
McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca ;
gemerson@tor.fasken.com ; garth@garth.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ;
Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
news957@rci.rogers.com ; Scott.A@parl.gc.ca ; zedp@parl.gc.ca ;
leo@primetimecrime.com ; crilf@ucalgary.ca ;
giuliano.zaccardelli@rcmp-grc.
stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-
info@pco-bcp.gc.ca ; Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us ; kmearn@mpdmilton.org
; Freeman.C@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: chanr0@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: johnforan.mla@nb.aibn.com ; Chris.Baker@gnb.ca ;
yvon.leblanc3@gnb.ca ; rachel.bard@gnb.ca ; Louise.LEMON@gnb.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: amacbeath@grantthornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: Fw: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now
Ms. Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: bmatthews@grantthornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Press print on this attachment and call me a liar now Ms.
Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: freemc@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: pmartin@GrantThornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:07 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: nraynard@GrantThornton.ca ; jdelaney@GrantThornton.ca ;
kferguson@GrantThornton.ca ; blewis@GrantThornton.ca
Cc: krieger@GrantThornton.ca ; hjaffer@GrantThornton.ca ;
rgodbold@GrantThornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: gdent@GrantThornton.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:04 AM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: ckennedy@notes.tcs.treas.gov
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: Raf.Souccar@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; tim.killam@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
martin.blais@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; harrir1@parl.gc.ca ; harrir@parl.gc.ca ;
peterj@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: leo@primetimecrime.com ; gary.bignell@peelpolice.on.ca ; crilf@ucalgary.ca
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:17 PM
Subject: Fw: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact
it works
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Raymond Amos
To: angie.coss@cjad.com
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Angie press print on this attachment I know for a fact it
works
>> From: davidramos@xplornet.com
>> To: samperrier@hotmail.com; alltrue@nl.rogers.com
>> CC: deanr0032@hotmail.com; motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> Subject: This Dean dude really pissed me off.
>> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 23:42:46 -0400
>>
>> Apparentely I was summoned to stand before a Yankee Court on January 3rd
>> to answer more false criminal charges but I was not served anything and
>> nobody would talk about it. Now the day has come and gone and still
>> everybody is playing dumb.
>> It is also abundantly clear I was very wrong about this Dean kid. He
>> is a real snake in the grass. I also was invited to another one of those
>> sneaky Yahoo chat rooms on New Years Eve. Need I say I smelled foul play?
>> Remeber what I thought of Integrity BC crowd before I went to jail? When I
>> stomped on the bastards in another Yahoo Group this little prick Dean
>> showed
>> me his nasty arse. Obviously I pissed of his buddies. Ask me if I care. I
>> guess it is just another one of thise things I do that nobody seems to
>> appreciate.
>> I just spent the second miserable Xmass without my kids and I am
>> feeling as mean as a snake. My little Darlin came down with diabetes and
>> cried all Xmass day because I was not there. Rest assured there will be
>> Hell
>> to pay. because I could not make my Gracie's wish come true.
>> This is just one of many emails I received from that Dean kid in the
>> past few days. What he says of me is absolutely incredible but not
>> surprising at the same time. Rest assured I will use everyone of his own
>> words against him. However when he began slamming Sam in a couple of
>> emails
>> I figured you guys should know. If you say nothing its cool. I am about to
>> tear the little bastard a brand new arsehole to cram a couple of Newfy
>> diddlers up into .(I see Tommy Marshall has a new job eh?)
>> Notice how the chickenshit out west claims Hickman is behind me and
>> Sam works with Hickman? A lot he knows eh? Does this kid even know how to
>> read or does he just cut and paste everything? Curiousity has got the cat.
>> I must ask Byron is he one of the dudes that warned you away from me?
>> Happy New Year fellas
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dean Ray" <deanr0032@hotmail.com>
>> To: <davidramos@xplornet.com>; <4humanitysake@comcast.net>;
>> <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.
>> <atvnews@ctv.ca>; <cap871@hotmail.com>; <Catboat15@aol.com>;
>> <erniemusic2@yahoo.com>; <irock96@hotmail.com>;
>> <gerryduffett47@yahoo.com>;
>> <human_rights_1@yahoogroups.
>> <marsboy683@yahoo.com>; <One_World_Religion@
>> <rghouseholder@msn.com>; <your_neighbor_2000@yahoo.com>
>> <c.sperr@comcast.net>; <dblaron67@yahoo.com>; <derrickcrobinson@gmail.com>
>> Cc: <Harper.S@parl.gc.ca>; <Iolmisha@cs.com>; <jhughes164@yahoo.com>;
>> <jstc4emsurvivors@yahoo.com>; <Justice4Tyrell@yahoogroups.
>> <laceupboots@hotmail.com>; <mc_victim@hotmail.com>;
>> <midnightladync@yahoo.com>; <orwelltoday@orwelltoday.com>;
>> <september_eleven_vreeland@
>> <catfishwithlips@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:55 PM
>> Subject: If your trying to imply you are a investigative team fintrac or
>> fbsa who do you?
>>
>>
>> > http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I cross references Yves Bourduas with freemasons and found nothing
>> Probably
>> > nothing under clean up of Iluminati either. He is not cleaning up any
>> > terrorist more like cleaning up dissidents or pissed off citizens. I
>> > believe you are an agent trying to set up Byron Prior to do something
>> crazy
>> > and attempt to protect T Alex Hickman a rich Baby diddler.
>> > why would you send me this garbage? You seen saddam hanged do you
>> > realize
>> > how close the New World Order is to falling apart. Do you realize what
>> the
>> > citizens will do to you if you are guilty. What you have done to Byron
>> > Prior Is treason !!!!
>> >
>> > why not just clear your name you have my questions?
>> >
>> > Is Collin Robinson the guy who raped my cousin connected to your clan?
>> > This guy erased critical research on T Alex Hickman while I was at work
>> > I
>> > stored my computer at my Aunts place?
>> > Why is your best buddy Sam Perrier doing business with T Alex Hickman?
>> >
>> > Why did you sit back and watch Jeremy Swanson blead dry poor Byron
>> Prior?
>> >
>> > Then show up out of nowhere too late? Nobody contacted you How did you
>> > know anything was going on? you brag you see everything....
>> >
>> > What group owns that club that backed your parliament adventures?
>> >
>> > You brag you have escape vehicles all over does Your baby diddler friend
>> > T
>> > Alex Hickman pay for that?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Am i correct that you are connected to Hells Angels and those vehicles
>> > are
>> > paid for by blood money?
>> >
>> > If that is the case how many children have to die so that you live?
>> >
>> > DId you tell someone to play bumper tag with me on the highway?
>> >
>> > Answer all my queries and I stop otherwise I just go till I am stopped.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 38th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION
>> > Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency
>> > Preparedness
>> >
>> >
>> > EVIDENCE
>> > CONTENTS
>> >
>> > Tuesday, December 7, 2004
>> > Pierre-Yves Bourduas, Deputy Commissioner, Federal Services and Central
>> > Region, Royal Canadian Mounted Police: I will start by talking about
>> > Canada's anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing regime,
>> > which
>> > impacts on two separate branches of the RCMP. The RCMP Proceeds of Crime
>> > Branch is the authority that oversees the AML regime, and the National
>> > Security Operations Branch is the authority reporting on the ATF regime.
>> >
>> > The RCMP was provided with 34 positions in total that were assigned to
>> money
>> > laundering units across Canada and to RCMP Headquarters. Their
>> > responsibilities include assessing money laundering intelligence
>> > received
>> > from the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada,
>> > or
>> > FINTRAC, the Canada Border Services Agency and others. Originally, the
>> RCMP
>> > did not any receive resources under the initiatives to address ATF
>> > issues.
>> >
>> > One of the key areas that must be addressed in this legislative review
>> > is
>> > the expansion of the current list of designated information that FINTRAC
>> is
>> > legislated to disclose to law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
>> >
>> > As stated in the consultation paper, the 2004 Report of the Auditor
>> General
>> > of Canada and the Year Five Evaluation of the National Initiatives to
>> Combat
>> > Money Laundering and Interim Evaluation of Measures to Combat Terrorist
>> > Financing, the effectiveness of FINTRAC disclosures are limited by
>> > legislative restrictions that constraint the information that can be
>> > disclosed.
>> >
>> > The most valuable addition would be a narrative underlying the rationale
>> for
>> > disclosing and, more specifically, the reason for suspicion. This
>> > information, if provided, would improve the value of FINTRAC
>> > disclosures,
>> > eliminate duplication of effort and ultimately enhance Canada's AML and
>> ATF
>> > regimes.
>> >
>> > Many private businesses under the protection of section 462.47 of the
>> > Criminal Code of Canada continue to make direct voluntary disclosures to
>> the
>> > RCMP, and most of these disclosures contain more information than what
>> > is
>> > actually received from FINTRAC. Although some are voluminous, they are
>> > accompanied by a brief explanation of why the institution considers the
>> > transaction suspicious. This narrative can save investigators
>> > considerable
>> > time and analytical effort.
>> >
>> > It should be stressed that Canadian law enforcement is not seeking
>> > direct
>> > access to FINTRAC information. Although unique internationally, the RCMP
>> > continues to respect its arm's-length relationship with FINTRAC and the
>> need
>> > to ensure personal information under its control is protected. However,
>> once
>> > this independent agency has reasonable grounds to suspect that their
>> > information would be relevant to investigating or prosecuting a money
>> > laundering offence, this information should be made more readily
>> > available
>> > to Canadian law enforcement agencies at large.
>> >
>> > Further, the RCMP believes consideration should be given to lowering the
>> > threshold for obtaining production orders from ``reasonable grounds to
>> > believe'' to ``reasonable grounds to suspect'' on the balance of
>> > probabilities. This would result in a more efficient and effective
>> > system
>> > and would ultimately strengthen our ability to deal with the money
>> > laundering issue.
>> >
>> > The RCMP is keenly interested in the Department of Finance's continuing
>> > negotiation with the legal profession to develop a new legislative and
>> > regulatory regime that better takes into account the duties of legal
>> > counsel. The RCMP agrees with parliamentarians, the Auditor General and
>> the
>> > media that the exclusion of the legal profession poses a significant gap
>> in
>> > Canada's regime.
>> >
>> > It is clear that due to the special privileges the legal profession is
>> > granted, this is a sensitive area. It is also the reason why the
>> > Interpretative Notes of the Forty Recommendations allow for flexibility,
>> > including allowing professions such as the legal profession to send
>> > their
>> > Suspicious Transaction Reports to their appropriate self-regulatory
>> > organization, provided that there are appropriate forms of cooperation
>> > between these organizations and the financial intelligence unit.
>> >
>> > Anyone, including lawyers, who act as a financial intermediary must
>> > accept
>> > responsibility to ensure they are not moving criminal or terrorist
>> proceeds.
>> > Failure to have any segment of society accept this responsibility makes
>> them
>> > the weak link and a potential target. The FATF recommendations clearly
>> > do
>> > not impede access to legal counsel and serve the interests of society
>> > without impacting solicitor-client privilege.
>> >
>> > The RCMP supports the inclusion of diamond, precious metals and stones
>> > as
>> a
>> > reporting entity under the act. This would require the reporting of
>> > large
>> > cash and suspicious transactions and a range of client identification
>> > and
>> > record- keeping requirements by the industry.
>> >
>> > As stricter regulations are imposed on businesses in the financial
>> services
>> > industry, criminals are seeking alternative methods of laundering the
>> money
>> > accumulated from criminal activity. Various characteristics of the
>> industry
>> > make it highly vulnerable to criminal activity.
>> >
>> > The RCMP fully supports the government's proposal to amend the act and
>> > its
>> > regulations to establish a registration regime for money services
>> businesses
>> > and foreign exchange dealers for the purpose of anti-money laundering
>> > and
>> > anti- terrorist financing measures.
>> >
>> > Recent investigations across Canada clearly exemplify how the absence of
>> > licensing or registration in Canada makes this sector highly attractive
>> > to
>> > money laundering criminals looking for alternatives to the regulated
>> banking
>> > sector. This sector continues to grow as they continue to be found in
>> > convenience stores, clothing stores, restaurants, book stores, video
>> stores,
>> > nail polishing stores, wireless communication stores, jewellery stores
>> > and
>> > travel agencies.
>> >
>> > The ``white label'' ATMs are non-bank ATMs owned and operated by
>> independent
>> > service operators and without any known financial institution logo. They
>> are
>> > mentioned briefly in the Department of Finance's discussion paper as an
>> area
>> > the government will be reviewing in the future. The RCMP encourages this
>> > review as investigations continue to indicate that these machines
>> represent
>> > an ideal method to launder significant amounts of money.
>> >
>> > The RCMP is part of an initiative led by the Department of Finance that
>> > sought additional resources for consideration in the 2006 federal
>> > budget.
>> It
>> > appears the RCMP will enhance its resource level under the National
>> > Initiative to Combat Money Laundering, NICML, both within our Proceeds
>> > of
>> > Crime Branch and our National Security Operations Branch. The latter is
>> > expected to receive 12 additional resources, which will be allocated to
>> the
>> > operational divisions. These new investigators will help build up
>> > capacity
>> > in the three major financial centres where the majority of information
>> > is
>> > received from FINTRAC. The addition of new resources to the program will
>> > still require prioritization of activities; however, it will allow for a
>> > more balanced approach and ultimately allow law enforcement to truly
>> > test
>> > the ``value added'' of the Canadian money laundering strategy.
>> >
>> > Maureen Tracy, Director General, Enforcement Programs Directorate,
>> > Enforcement Branch, Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA): Before I
>> > begin,
>> on
>> > behalf of the Canada Border Services Agency, I would like to thank the
>> > deputy chairman for his kind words in introducing us. As a very new
>> > agency
>> > with a broad mandate and many expectations placed on us, it is very good
>> to
>> > hear the support that comes from the Senate and others.
>> >
>> > I would like to thank you very much for the invitation to come and
>> > speak.
>> > Our administration of Part 2 of the proceeds of crime legislation is a
>> major
>> > component of our enforcement program, and we are quite proud of the
>> results
>> > we have achieved over the last few years.
>> >
>> > I would like to give you a brief overview of the role of the Canada
>> > Border
>> > Services Agency as it relates to the National Initiative to Combat Money
>> > Laundering, or NICML, and the international fight against money
>> > laundering
>> > and terrorist financing in general. I will also provide information on
>> > how
>> > we have organized ourselves to deliver this program in the field and the
>> > successes we have had to date.
>> >
>> > As you are aware, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist
>> > Financing Act, which received Royal Assent in June 2000, was introduced
>> > to
>> > remedy shortcomings in Canada's anti-money laundering legislation. The
>> > act
>> > was aimed at implementing specific measures to combat money laundering,
>> > including the requirement to report cross- border movements of currency
>> and
>> > monetary instruments equal to or greater than a prescribed amount to the
>> > Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada, FINTRAC.
>> >
>> > Bill C-36, the anti-terrorist omnibus bill, expanded the scope of the
>> > legislation to also combat terrorism. The name was changed to the
>> > Proceeds
>> > of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act, PCMLTFA.
>> >
>> > The Canada Border Services Agency is responsible for the administration
>> and
>> > enforcement of Part 2 of the act, which requires every person or entity
>> > to
>> > report to a CBSA border officer the importation or exportation of
>> > currency
>> > or monetary instruments valued at $10,000 Canadian or greater. The
>> reporting
>> > requirements under the legislation encompass all modes of travel,
>> including
>> > air, highway, rail and marine, and all methods of importation and
>> > exportation, that is, personal travellers, vehicles, commercial cargo,
>> > courier and postal.
>> >
>> > >From an administrative perspective, the CBSA collects cross-border
>> currency
>> > reports from travellers and commercial entities. Officers also assist
>> > travellers and businesses in complying with the currency reporting
>> > forms.
>> In
>> > other words, we have a service provision responsibility in this regard
>> > as
>> > well. The completed reports are transmitted to FINTRAC for analysis.
>> >
>> > >From an enforcement perspective, the CBSA has the authority to search
>> > and
>> > seize non-reported currency and monetary instruments greater than
>> > $10,000
>> > Canadian or equivalent. Information relating to seizure actions is also
>> > transmitted to FINTRAC. All seizures are subject to appeal to the
>> > Minister
>> > of Public Safety and, ultimately, to the Federal Court of Canada.
>> >
>> > The cross-border currency reporting program of the CBSA was allocated
>> > approximately $3.2 million per year to enforce the legislation. This
>> funding
>> > was dedicated to processing and communicating reports to the field,
>> > headquarters coordination, and compliance verification and enforcement.
>> The
>> > bulk of the resources were devoted to the administration, receiving and
>> > processing of reports and to the enforcement and compliance verification
>> > activities that proceed from that.
>> >
>> > The dedicated resources were placed at high risk ports of entry,
>> > covering
>> > both the air and highway modes. There are also currency enforcement
>> > teams
>> as
>> > well as currency dog teams in place at key locations.
>> >
>> > The CBSA has also invested in a variety of detection tools, including
>> mobile
>> > X-ray units and other detection tools such as video scopes. We have at
>> > our
>> > disposal a wide range of other technologies that assist in the
>> non-intrusive
>> > examination of goods.
>> >
>> > Since the commencement of the cross-border currency reporting program in
>> > January 2003, over 100,000 import and export cross-border currency
>> > reports
>> > have been received by the CBSA.
>> >
>> > Enforcement of the legislation by the agency from inception to April 30,
>> > 2006, has resulted in over 5,100 enforcement actions, involving more
>> > than
>> > $132 million. Of the over 5,000 seizures that have been undertaken since
>> the
>> > inception of the program, just under 600 have been appealed to the
>> minister.
>> > Of those, 321 were maintained as assessed, 111 were mitigated and 49
>> > were
>> > cancelled. There are currently 37 active cases before the courts.
>> >
>> > In closing, we believe at the Canada Border Services Agency that with
>> > the
>> > implementation of this program our agency has been very successful in
>> > increasing its contribution to the international fight against
>> > transborder
>> > crime, specifically money laundering and terrorist financing. As a
>> > direct
>> > result of the program, more than $34 million in suspect proceeds of
>> > crime
>> > were forfeited and thus taken out of circulation.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: In your report, Mr. Bourduas, you mention the role
>> that
>> > lawyers play. This legislation contains an important exception for
>> lawyers,
>> > in so far as client-attorney privilege is concerned. Every citizen is
>> > entitled to legal representation. At the same time, this right impacts
>> > our
>> > objective of addressing the money laundering issue.
>> >
>> > If a lawyer deposits funds in a Canadian bank, does the bank have an
>> > obligation to ask more questions about the origins of these funds? If
>> > the
>> > bank is acquainted with the lawyer and deems him to be a credible,
>> > serious
>> > individual, does the questioning end there? What rules of disclosure
>> > apply
>> > in the case of such funds? Is it the responsibility of the lawyer or of
>> the
>> > client to disclose the source of these funds?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: There are two parts to that question, the first involving
>> > a
>> > lawyer's obligation toward his client. On looking at the provisions of
>> > the
>> > act, we believe that a lawyer also has a responsibility toward society
>> > in
>> > general to see to it that any funds a law firm is asked to handle for
>> > its
>> > client were not obtained through unlawful means.
>> >
>> > The purpose of these amendments is to ensure that lawyers adopt the same
>> > procedures as financial institutions, that is that they know their
>> > client,
>> > record the origin of the funds as such and invest these funds.
>> >
>> > We recognize the importance of attorney-client privilege. A clear
>> framework
>> > must be in place to prevent money laundering operations, since the first
>> > step is the actual investment of the funds.
>> >
>> > We want to avoid a situation where law enforcement officials arrive with
>> > a
>> > warrant to search the offices of law firm. A substantial percentage of
>> > our
>> > investigations eventually lead us to law firms that have been involved
>> > in
>> > certain questionable transactions.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: I want to be clear about this. I understand your
>> > interpretation of the provision, but are lawyers completely exempted at
>> this
>> > point in time, or only with respect to some of the transactions handled
>> > by
>> > their firm? Accountants and insurance brokers are not excluded.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: The exclusion applies to transactions that bring in
>> > substantial sums of money to the firm. Most lawyers claim to have this
>> kind
>> > of privileged relationship with their client and are not necessarily
>> > required to disclose the origins of these funds.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Take the case of a lawyer who makes a deposit. He
>> > represents a client who is not exactly on the up and up. He takes
>> > receipt
>> of
>> > a large sum of money which he then deposits in a Canadian bank. What
>> > obligation does the Canadian bank have in this case? It knows the lawyer
>> and
>> > his firm has some major accounts with this financial institution. Does
>> > the
>> > bank's responsibility end there? Should the bank ask questions about the
>> > origin of all funds that it handles? Does it have an obligation to
>> question
>> > the client?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: One of the first rules is ``know your customer.''
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: In this case, the customer is the lawyer. Correct?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: That is right.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Therefore, it is ``know your customer'' and not ``know the customer of
>> your
>> > customer.''
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: The obligation ends with the lawyer.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Correct. If, for example, the firm is a serious business
>> that
>> > handles large sums of money, then the bank has already met its
>> > obligations
>> > up to a point.
>> >
>> > The purpose of the proposed amendment to the act is to make law firms
>> > accountable. They need to know the exact origin of the funds that they
>> > handle so as to avoid having people take advantage of their credibility
>> and
>> > so that they do not become the intermediary through which funds are
>> > channeled to financial institutions.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: There are a number of lawyers, all of whom are very
>> > honourable, seated here at this table. However, occasionally we
>> > encounter
>> > some who are not so honest. The legislation gives them an opening to
>> > take
>> > advantage of the situation and possibly to launder substantial sums of
>> > money.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: You have raised a very important point. It is generally
>> > accepted that lawyers are honest individuals. This legislation seeks to
>> > protect lawyers or the legal profession per se by making lawyers legally
>> > required to declare these funds. The lawyer, therefore, has an
>> > obligation
>> to
>> > tell his client that he must report and hence disclose the origin of any
>> > funds handed over to the firm. This obligation makes the lawyer's
>> > position
>> > that much more comfortable in that he has a duty to manage his client.
>> > The
>> > burden of ensuring that the transaction is legitimate is thus shifted to
>> the
>> > lawyer and eventually, to the financial institution which will not ask
>> > question because the lawyer's credibility is already well established.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: My second question is for Ms. Tracy. Recently I was
>> > in
>> > Hong Kong and visited the port, one of the busiest in the world, if the
>> > volume of container traffic is any indication.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: To which port are you referring?
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: I am talking about the port of Hong Kong, and about
>> the
>> > port of Singapore as well. I observed that all of the trucks and people
>> > accessing the port must go through a control post where they are scanned
>> to
>> > ensure that nothing suspicious finds its way into one of the containers.
>> >
>> > Two or three weeks ago, I read in a Canadian Press article that no such
>> > procedure was followed in Canada. However, no explanation was given for
>> this
>> > oversight. Yet, Canada is a fairly wealthy country, when compared to
>> > Hong
>> > Kong or Singapore. We constantly hear how a wide variety of goods are
>> > handled at Canadian ports. Why are such procedures not in place in
>> > Canada?
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: Could it be that the equipment you are referring to is
>> radiation
>> > detection equipment?
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: It could be.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: There is good news from the CBSA on that front. We spent the
>> > better part of 18 months researching radiation detection equipment. We
>> have
>> > selected equipment that, for the moment, based on the technology that is
>> out
>> > there, is the best fix for us. I am referring to portal equipment where
>> the
>> > trucks will drive through two posts and be scanned for radiation.
>> >
>> > To get the bugs out, on a pilot basis we installed the equipment at a
>> small
>> > container port in New Brunswick, but by the end of the 2006 calendar
>> > year,
>> > we are very optimistic that we will have it in Halifax, Montreal and
>> > Vancouver. That will mean that as close as we can get to 100 per cent of
>> > containers will be scanned for radiation.
>> >
>> > In addition to that equipment, we have gamma ray technology in the form
>> > of
>> > 11 or so mobile VACIS. You pass a container through it and, in about 30
>> > seconds, you see an image of the inside of that container and can
>> determine
>> > whether the declaration is actually accurate or whether the container
>> > contains contraband.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Why is this done only at ports and not at border
>> points
>> > in general or at other major points of entry?
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: The ports are the first element of our strategy. I am aware
>> that
>> > the United States has radiation detection at their land borders. There
>> > are
>> > no plans at this time for Canada to put radiation detection at our land
>> > border. We believe we have targeted the equipment to the highest risk
>> area.
>> > In the security and prosperity partnership with Mexico and the United
>> > States, we have committed to looking at expanding the radiation
>> > detection
>> > program in concert with the United States, and that would be both for
>> > research and additional deployment, but at this point there are no plans
>> to
>> > put it at our land border.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: I wish to pursue a question that was asked by Senator
>> > Massicotte. Lawyers handle all kinds of transactions. It is certainly
>> > true
>> > that there are very honest lawyers and less honest lawyers in existence.
>> > That is true of every profession. How would you address the concerns
>> > that
>> > lawyers have expressed to you? Independent of professional privilege,
>> where
>> > a transaction is not privileged - that is, where a financial transaction
>> > takes place between two parties - both parties know that it is financed
>> > by
>> > money that may be coming from the U.K., entirely legitimately, or from
>> > any
>> > other source. The lawyer has to then make a judgment call as to whether
>> > he
>> > or she should divulge or not divulge. You have given us the beginning of
>> an
>> > answer, which is that lawyers who are known to be honest will not be
>> > considered to be involved in suspicious transactions, whereas lawyers
>> > who
>> > are known by their own institutions to be perhaps less perfectly honest
>> will
>> > be. That necessarily requires arbitrary judgments because there are no
>> > objective criteria for them. How does one justify making those judgments
>> > when one is aware of the Charter obligation to not make those judgments?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We recognize that there are governing bodies within the
>> legal
>> > profession, and our position here speaks to this point exactly. The
>> lawyers,
>> > through their governing bodies, would report to FINTRAC all transactions
>> in
>> > excess of $10,000.
>> >
>> > As Senator Massicotte mentioned, a huge gap needs to be addressed.
>> > ``Know
>> > your client'' is a slippery slope when you start leaving it to the good
>> > judgment of a particular individual who might not be seized with all of
>> the
>> > surrounding circumstances that brought this amount of cash to the
>> > lawyer's
>> > office. We are saying, let us take this burden of good judgment and use
>> > regulations to simply transfer it to an independent body like FINTRAC,
>> > for
>> > instance. They would be in a position to look at the transaction
>> > involving
>> > this individual and then look at their overall data bank to ensure that
>> this
>> > person has not used this particular law office for a single transaction
>> that
>> > would link with other suspicious transactions. That would paint a much
>> > larger picture. It does not influence or affect the good judgment of
>> > this
>> > particular lawyer. We are simply saying that we should put a system in
>> place
>> > that would allow for a much broader picture to be painted about specific
>> > transactions.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: I am not sure that your answer really responds to the
>> > concern that I am trying to express. You have suggested that, in the
>> > upcoming amendment process, the criterion for being able to go to court
>> > should be changed from ``reasonable grounds to believe'' to ``reasonable
>> > grounds to suspect.'' That is a long dimension of arbitrary judgment.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: I would like to set the record straight. I did not talk
>> about
>> > going to court. I am simply talking about a production order. We are
>> asking
>> > for a production order when we have ``reasonable suspicion'' as opposed
>> > to
>> > ``beyond a reasonable doubt.''
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: From whom would you ask for that production order?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We would ask FINTRAC for that. We are not talking about
>> going
>> > to court. It is important to realize that our main focus is to address
>> > the
>> > weakest link possible when we talk about the money laundering process.
>> > The
>> > weak links are these hockey bags filled with money. I know this from
>> > professional and personal experience, having been the manager of a major
>> > money laundering case in Montreal from 1990 to 1994, where we laundered
>> $162
>> > million over a four-year period with four undercover agents from the
>> > RCMP.
>> > We had people coming in with hockey bags full of money they wanted to
>> place,
>> > and this is the reason we have to focus corporately and collectively at
>> this
>> > stage. We have to make it a little harder for these people to place this
>> > large amount of cash.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: You told us, Ms. Tracy, that machinery and equipment
>> are
>> > in place in specific parts of the country for a variety of purposes,
>> > including the intention to create radiation screens throughout the
>> country.
>> > If I were seeking to bring something into Canada, knowing what you just
>> told
>> > us, I could simply cross into Canada elsewhere.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: That is a fair comment. The Canada Border Services Agency
>> > needs
>> > to deploy equipment to the areas that we have assessed as presenting a
>> high
>> > risk. We have to acknowledge that there are many ways an individual can
>> > bring things into the country. We are doing our best in our risk
>> assessment
>> > process to plug those gaps. We are continuing with our assessment of
>> > those
>> > risks and with our research and development into new technology.
>> >
>> > I think the inventory of equipment that is out there now - and I am
>> probably
>> > going to get this wrong but not too wrong - is in the neighbourhood of
>> > $68
>> > million. In 2000 it was something like $1.5 million, so the investment
>> > has
>> > been made.
>> >
>> > In addition, the type of equipment we have out there is much more
>> > sophisticated than we had just four or five years ago. As I mentioned,
>> > we
>> > have entered the field of radiation detection. We have much stronger
>> > gamma
>> > ray systems that provide for better screening and for the screening of
>> more
>> > cargo.
>> >
>> > Yes, you are right that it is an uphill battle when you consider we have
>> > such a large country with so many possibilities and ways for someone to
>> > enter. However, we are working on the basis of risk and will continue to
>> > deploy equipment to the areas that we see are vulnerable.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: Mr. Bourduas, what kind of training do your 34
>> analysts,
>> > and the ones you are asking for now, receive so that they can be certain
>> to
>> > understand the balance between investigative requirements and Charter
>> > requirements?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: When looking at the proceeds of crime, our analysts also
>> have
>> > to be versed in what type of criminality we are investigating. Our
>> > investigators have field experience and have gone to court with regard
>> > to
>> > substantive offences. They have operated for a number of years with the
>> > reality of the Charter and have been brought into the fold to look at
>> > the
>> > proceeds of crime legislation and ways to develop a clearer picture of
>> > the
>> > challenges we face and how we can strategically deploy our limited
>> resources
>> > to address those challenges.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Mr. Bourduas, page 3 of your brief states:
>> >
>> > ...the RCMP continues to respect its arm's length relationship with
>> > FINTRAC.... However, once this independent agency has reasonable grounds
>> to
>> > suspect that their information would be relevant to investigating or
>> > prosecuting a money laundering offence, this information should made
>> > more
>> > readily available to Canadian law enforcement agencies.
>> >
>> > This implies that you are not satisfied with the information you are
>> getting
>> > and its availability to you. Perhaps you could expand on that one
>> sentence.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: With regard to FINTRAC, we are of the opinion that the
>> current
>> > legislation talks about what should constitute ``designated
>> > information.''
>> > We also believe that the legal interpretation given to ``designated
>> > information'' is a little too narrow in scope. We would like to seek a
>> > broadening of this information and the definition of ``designated
>> > information'' so we can access additional information from FINTRAC in
>> > relation to what constitutes their reasonable grounds to believe that a
>> > transaction is labelled suspicious. We are asking for reasons to justify
>> > this referral and additional information that would allow our
>> investigators
>> > to better focus our investigation into a given area.
>> >
>> > We are satisfied with the relationship we have with FINTRAC, but we are
>> > seeking is a much broader definition or interpretation of the definition
>> of
>> > ``designated information.''
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: You would prefer it to be less onerous on their part so
>> you
>> > would receive more information; correct? Is it the quality or you just
>> want
>> > more?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: It is both the information and also the qualifier of the
>> > particular information that we are seeking.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Would this require amendments to the act to expand the
>> > amount of information that would be turned over to the RCMP?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Currently, subsection 55(7) of the act deals with
>> > designated
>> > information and talks about names and addresses, the amount and type of
>> > currency, the type of transaction, the account number, and then, at
>> > subparagraph (e), makes reference to ``any other identifying information
>> > that may be prescribed.'' That has been ruled to be very much in line
>> > with
>> > the previous four items, without broadening the definition to at least
>> allow
>> > investigators to know why FINTRAC has labelled particular information
>> > ``suspicious.'' We are seeking a broadening of the definition so that
>> > investigators can have a better idea as to why some of these
>> > transactions
>> > have been labelled ``suspicious.''
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: When we discussed the issue of privacy with officials
>> from
>> > FINTRAC, they said that a number of measures were in place to protect
>> > the
>> > privacy of the information. They also said that at the end of five years
>> > they would get rid of it unless it was sent to the police; then it was
>> eight
>> > years. What do you do with it? If you expand the amount of information
>> that
>> > they are sending over to you, then the police are getting more
>> information,
>> > which is simply information. We do not know if a particular person has
>> done
>> > anything wrong; it is just information. Do you get rid of your
>> > information
>> > after a certain number of years or does it stay in that file forever?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We would like to do something with the information, of
>> course,
>> > and that is the main thrust behind what we are seeking. We want
>> > additional
>> > information to get a much clearer picture as to what certain groups or
>> > individuals are doing in relation to financial transactions. By
>> > obtaining
>> > additional information, we would be in a better position to focus our
>> > limited resources on a particular file or referral as opposed to simply
>> > placing the referral in a queue. We have limited resources, so we also
>> have
>> > to manage risk and prioritize.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: I understand that, but let us say they could provide
>> > you
>> > with more extensive information. What happens if this additional
>> information
>> > leads you nowhere? What would you do with it in the end? Would it be
>> > discarded or would that information stay with you forever? Let us say
>> > that
>> > the information is just a name with a whole bunch of financial details
>> > and
>> > it sits in a file at the RCMP and leads nowhere. Would you get rid of it
>> > after a while?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: When it is just a name with limited information, we set it
>> > aside. We also have rules and regulations internally in relation to how
>> long
>> > we keep certain information on file. Like any other organization, at one
>> > point the information is simply discarded.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Is it destroyed or is it moved to another building?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: At some point we run out of buildings, senator; that is
>> > our
>> > reality.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: The task force on money laundering made a number of
>> > recommendations in 2003-04. One of them involved casinos not being
>> licensed,
>> > a more regulatory and supervisory regime for casinos and also ownership
>> > requirements. I think those are all provincial matters. Are the
>> > provinces
>> > that the RCMP is serving - like Saskatchewan, for example, where the
>> > RCMP
>> is
>> > our police force - not licensing properly? Do you feel the regulations
>> > are
>> > sufficient to prevent money laundering in provinces that have casinos?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: In my former life as a commanding officer in Quebec, I had
>> to
>> > deal with investigations that brought us to casinos in that province.
>> > Rest
>> > assured that these institutions, very much like other institutions, want
>> to
>> > avoid, like the plague, criminal organizations using their institutions
>> > to
>> > launder money. They are very much regulated and they do cooperate with
>> > police authorities - be it the provincial police or the RCMP - because
>> they
>> > are cognisant of the fact that their institution might be used for
>> > exactly
>> > this purpose. They closely monitor their transactions and make
>> > unsolicited
>> > reports to police agencies when they see a suspicious transaction. Under
>> the
>> > auspices of the Criminal Code, they will provide us with more
>> > information
>> > than we would normally get from an institution like FINTRAC. They want
>> > to
>> > ensure they provide us with all the information and all the related
>> > circumstances to allow the investigators to put the information into
>> > perspective.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Considering that gambling used to be a criminal
>> > activity,
>> > they might have more knowledge about it than a bank or a credit union.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Obviously, it is legal now. Rest assured that the
>> > provincial
>> > government wants to keep these types of activities from being
>> > infiltrated
>> by
>> > organized crime because it used to be managed more or less by organized
>> > crime.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: In that recommendation, the task force stated that
>> > necessary legal or regulatory measures be taken to prevent criminals or
>> > their associates from holding or being the beneficial owners of a
>> > significant or controlling interest or holding a management function or
>> > being the operator. Is there reason to suspect that casinos in Canada
>> > are
>> > infiltrated by criminals or people interested in money laundering?
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: Do you mean the ownership?
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Or the management.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Or the board of directors.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: Yes.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Once again, police organizations are working closely with
>> > casinos. The majority of security forces for casinos are constituted by
>> > former police officers and are doing background checks on anyone who
>> > deals
>> > with the management of the casinos to ensure everything is above board
>> > in
>> > relation to their operation. They all know what the consequences might
>> > be
>> if
>> > anyone associated with organized crime were to have a major role in the
>> > operation of any casinos or board of directors, for that matter.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: When the RCMP receives information from FINTRAC, where
>> > does it go from there? Who do you pass it on to?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: As a result of Bill C-22, we formed a group of specialized
>> > investigators that are seized with the information they receive either
>> from
>> > FINTRAC or from CBSA. These people try to put the information into
>> > context
>> > so they can dispatch it to our proceeds of crime units that are deployed
>> > across the country.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: Would you pass this information on to Canada Revenue
>> > Agency?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Our investigators are focused on the criminal aspect of
>> > what
>> > constitutes a potential violation of the Criminal Code. Therefore, as I
>> > indicated, they would dispatch this particular information to some of
>> > our
>> > investigators who are dealing with proceeds of crime.
>> >
>> > Once the investigation has started and the piece of information that we
>> > received from FINTRAC were to help us paint a clearer picture, we would
>> give
>> > priority this investigation over others. We would deal with the
>> individuals,
>> > the organization, the substantive offence and the proceeds aspect of the
>> > investigation and would bring these individuals or the organization
>> > before
>> > the court. We also have a liaison officer who deals with the Canada
>> Revenue
>> > Agency, and some of the financial information might be passed on to the
>> CRA.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: How about other police forces?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Other police forces are part of our Combined Forces
>> > Special
>> > Enforcement Units, or CFSEUs. These units are scattered all over the
>> > country. Our ultimate goal is to put these criminals out of business.
>> >
>> > That is the reason we are striving to gain access to additional
>> information.
>> > We need more context than a name and an amount of money. We would then
>> > be
>> in
>> > a better position to actually channel this information through our
>> > CFSEUs
>> to
>> > our proceeds of crime unit and also to other police forces, if need be.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: Clearly I am pro police, but there is a question of
>> trust.
>> > I do not mind the information being there. It is okay if the information
>> > goes to a particular organization, but my worry is that it might then go
>> to
>> > a separate organization, which might then send it to all sorts of other
>> > organizations. Along the way, the public must be absolutely certain that
>> the
>> > information is always used for the reason for which it was gathered. The
>> > difficulty is that every organization has a different reason for looking
>> at
>> > that information. That, to me, is the worry. Where is the tipping point?
>> We
>> > all want to catch the bad guys and put them in jail; we all want to
>> > fight
>> > terrorism. At what point do we tip over? I suppose that is the question
>> > we
>> > are really looking at here.
>> >
>> > Also, I know you have regulations stipulating that this information must
>> be
>> > kept for a certain amount of time, but we are not talking about a
>> warehouse;
>> > we are talking about an infinite hard drive. What is the minimum amount
>> > of
>> > time you are required to hold on to files before you get them out of the
>> > system?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Bear in mind that when we investigate proceeds of crime
>> files,
>> > some of the information that relates to a particular individual must be
>> kept
>> > for a certain amount of time. In fact, we ran into problems when we
>> > discarded some information and then 10, 15 or 20 years down the road
>> needed
>> > additional information to substantiate before the court that an
>> > individual
>> > had been involved in crime for so many years. That is why we looked at a
>> > policy dealing with the disclosure of information. As I indicated, most
>> > of
>> > the time this information is put in context and we will keep it for the
>> > duration of the file. At other times, we will keep the information if
>> > the
>> > individual is the subject of interest in any other file within the
>> > organization.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: If I had been involved in crime 30 years ago, I would
>> have
>> > a record and you would have it. It would never be gone; is that correct?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: It would depend on the record. If you were to have records
>> in
>> > your personal notebook -
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: I am not talking about me, Larry Campbell. I have not
>> been
>> > a criminal for 30 years. I am speaking hypothetically. You were saying
>> that
>> > you lost all of this information because you did not have the criminal
>> > records of the person involved. However, if I were involved in criminal
>> > activity and were convicted, then I would have a criminal record that
>> should
>> > be on the files. You are talking about someone who was involved in an
>> > activity and may or may not be a criminal - you do not know - and now
>> > you
>> > want to find out more about them. That creates a problem. There is a
>> statute
>> > of limitations on most things. What we are doing here is saying, ``Let's
>> > extend this.''
>> >
>> > When I worked in the business, we could never have enough intelligence.
>> > It
>> > is a matter of bringing it all in and shifting through it. I am really
>> > having difficulty with this.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: As well, we need to give context to the intelligence, sir;
>> you
>> > are absolutely right. Our organization keeps a piece of information to
>> > ensure that it fits in some puzzle somewhere so that we can complete the
>> > picture of the individual with whom we are dealing. It is important,
>> > however, that we provide some context. If the information is not
>> > relevant
>> to
>> > any ongoing investigation or any files or the subject is of no interest
>> > to
>> > us, then we have plenty of other organizations and individuals to look
>> > at.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell: I will go back to what you said before. Let us assume
>> > there is information on Larry Campbell, but nothing of relevance. That
>> kind
>> > of information does not go away. Twenty years from now, you want to be
>> able
>> > to put my name into the system, my date of birth if you have it, and
>> > have
>> > the information appear. As you said, you lost that information, so there
>> is
>> > no way of tying Larry Campbell to activities that took place 20 years
>> > ago.
>> > Suddenly, however, there is a new investigation and my name pops up.
>> > That
>> is
>> > my problem.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: I have a supplementary. I was not sure that I got my
>> answer
>> > when I asked a similar question.
>> >
>> > Senator Campbell and I are both concerned. When you receive a name that
>> has
>> > been investigated, a lot of evidence has been accumulated that has
>> > nothing
>> > to do with any criminal activity. It might simply be personal
>> > information
>> > unearthed by your investigator who has talked to friends, bankers,
>> > employers, et cetera. Nothing happens with the accumulated information
>> > because there is no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing. What happens to
>> > that file? My belief is that the file is never closed and just sits
>> > there.
>> I
>> > believe that you never get rid of that file.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: As I indicated, we have retention dates on files because
>> > at
>> > one point it would become ridiculous to keep all of these files open.
>> >
>> > Senator Tkachuk: It is possible to store all of that information on
>> > computers today. Would you destroy such a file?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: All the information is disposed of after a certain length
>> > of
>> > time. The organization has parameters on discarding certain files. For
>> > example, our files on individuals involved with break and enters are
>> > destroyed after a period of time, whereas the files on more serious
>> > crimes
>> > such as murder are kept forever. There are different thresholds.
>> >
>> > I am a stickler for numbers, so I will share with you some of the
>> statistics
>> > on disclosures from FINTRAC. We received a total of 382 disclosures from
>> > FINTRAC. Nine per cent identified new or unknown individuals. This does
>> not
>> > mean we started investigations in relation to these individuals but
>> > rather
>> > that they were new or unknown to us. Fourteen per cent provided
>> > additional
>> > information to ongoing investigations. Twenty-five per cent were the
>> direct
>> > result of previous voluntary reports received from the RCMP. Sixteen per
>> > cent have been forwarded to other agencies. Twenty-nine per cent of the
>> > disclosures were associated with investigations that have been concluded
>> by
>> > the RCMP having sufficient resources to conduct investigations. Sixteen
>> per
>> > cent contained insufficient information to proceed with an
>> > investigation.
>> > Fifty-three per cent of the disclosures were concluded for the following
>> > reasons: no criminality was detected, insufficient information, no
>> predicted
>> > offence, and dated information or lack of resources. That is basically
>> what
>> > is happening with these files.
>> >
>> > Senator Baker: Unfortunately, I do not have time to ask a question of
>> > the
>> > RCMP officer who was the commanding officer for the largest cocaine
>> seizure
>> > in Canadian history, in Eastern Canada, which was called ``operation
>> > jewels,'' I believe.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: You are well informed, senator, yes.
>> >
>> > Senator Baker: He was also the investigating officer into a particular
>> biker
>> > gang operation, the substance of which has gone to trial in many cases.
>> > He
>> > is a well-versed individual on search warrants and the relevant
>> > requirements, particularly in lawyers' offices.
>> >
>> > I remind you, Mr. Bourduas, that section 488 of the Criminal Code on
>> > searches of lawyers' officers has been struck down by the Supreme Court
>> > of
>> > Canada and replaced with a set of rules. I suspect that you are telling
>> > us
>> > within that context and your operations in the past that you want to
>> obtain
>> > additional information without a search warrant, whereas you would need
>> one
>> > normally. In your recommendations to this committee, you want greater
>> > authority to obtain information without going to the trouble of search
>> > warrants.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy, my question has to do with concerns about the act and
>> > criticism
>> > levied by the courts against subsection 12(1) of Part 2, which you
>> > administer. Myriad cases have been judged before the courts in Canada in
>> > which people have been trying to get back money that was seized at the
>> > border. The criticism of the courts relates to the question that the
>> > RCMP
>> > officer mentioned a moment ago - the difference between suspicion and
>> > belief. If CBSA officers suspect something, they can seize monies
>> > crossing
>> > the border. The minister then makes a determination as to whether that
>> money
>> > should be forfeited to the Crown.
>> >
>> > The criticism levied by the courts against this procedure is that
>> > nothing
>> > under the act enables someone to get their money out of forfeiture
>> > unless
>> > they can prove definitively that the money is legitimate. There is a
>> reverse
>> > onus on the person, and no there is procedure under the act that allows
>> them
>> > to get their money back, except to question the border guard on the
>> seizure.
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy: The question is precisely the issue of reasonable suspicion.
>> > I
>> > was made aware this morning of the committee's interest based on
>> > testimony
>> > yesterday. I began this morning to inform myself on the judgments that
>> have
>> > been rendered to date and what is currently before the courts.
>> >
>> > I would not pretend to be able to answer, particularly now that I am
>> > informed you are a lawyer. I will not go into a great deal of detail,
>> > but
>> I
>> > will offer to provide more detailed information to the committee from
>> > the
>> > CBSA on this matter.
>> >
>> > The one thing I will say, though, is that I have not been involved with
>> this
>> > act for the whole time that it has been implemented, but I was, in a
>> former
>> > job, responsible for some of the design of the legislation - Part 2,
>> > obviously, because I have a customs background. One of the things that
>> > was
>> > very important to the drafters, and to us as well, was that we did not
>> want
>> > to trap individuals who had simply made a mistake or who did not know or
>> who
>> > were nervous about telling people because they might be robbed. We built
>> our
>> > program on that basis.
>> >
>> > Yes, the standard is reasonable suspicion, and I have some statistics.
>> > Of
>> > 5,000 enforcement actions, 595 were forfeitures. This is very different.
>> Of
>> > those remaining that were not forfeited, they were believed to be
>> > related
>> to
>> > issues of carelessness and perhaps deliberate non-reporting for whatever
>> > reason, but there was no suspicion of proceeds of crime. Our officers
>> > have
>> > been given very clear guidelines as to how to judge a level 4 seizure,
>> which
>> > is forfeiture.
>> >
>> > My point is that we are aware. The Canada Border Services Agency wears
>> > two
>> > hats. The first is that we are most definitely as an enforcement
>> > organization, but the other is that we are very conscious of how we
>> > affect
>> > the lives of the public and business in relation to imports and exports.
>> In
>> > the design of this program, and I believe I can say that in the
>> > administration of this program, we are aware of that. Obviously, if
>> > there
>> > are errors we will correct them, but we have taken safeguards and are
>> > comfortable and hopeful that the 37 cases before the courts right now
>> > will
>> > be ruled on in favour of the legislation and in favour of the agency.
>> >
>> > Senator Goldstein: How inhibiting would it be to the success of your
>> > work
>> to
>> > have legislation stating that if no prosecution results, you must
>> > destroy
>> > records within a predetermined period of time rather than relying on
>> > your
>> > internal criteria?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: We keep the records because a different set of
>> > circumstances
>> > is attached to each name. Fifty-three per cent of these disclosures did
>> not
>> > lead anywhere. Therefore, we pass on if there is insufficient
>> > information.
>> > If we can just put context to this, ultimately the file is destroyed,
>> > and
>> it
>> > is internally that we can manage this.
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: The answer was very prejudicial.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Mr. Bourduas, your summary notes that in the last
>> > five
>> > or six years, 80 or so suspicious transactions have been reported to the
>> > RCMP. My impression is that those involved in organized crime are
>> extremely
>> > creative. They can afford to be creative, given the lucrative nature of
>> > their activities. Senator Campbell, the former mayor of Vancouver, told
>> > us
>> > that marijuana trafficking alone generated revenues of $7 billion in
>> British
>> > Columbia. That is only one small component of organized crime. My guess
>> > is
>> > that we are talking about transactions worth $30 billion to $40 billion,
>> and
>> > yet, only 10 or so transactions were reported annually by FINTRAC. Only
>> $35
>> > million is assets were seized. To my way of thinking, that is only a
>> > very
>> > small percentage of all revenues associated with criminal activity and
>> money
>> > laundering operations.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: That is consistent with my findings. Only by working
>> together
>> > will we be able to acquire the legislative means that will allow law
>> > enforcement agencies and border service officers to make a dent in
>> organized
>> > crime. Existing legislation has produced some results, qualified or not,
>> but
>> > armed with more effective tools, we will be able to achieve even better
>> > results.
>> >
>> > The government has already made some strides, but it is simply a matter
>> > of
>> > tightening up some of the legislative provisions in place to ensure that
>> our
>> > investigators have the authority to do the job that they are paid to do.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: Am I wrong to think that our legislation has very
>> little
>> > impact on the various kinds of criminal activity in Canada?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: No, but it is having an impact of some kind when we
>> > compare
>> > ourselves to the rest of the world, and when we take into account our
>> > resources. Our people are doing an impressive job, but we need to shore
>> > up
>> > our resources.
>> >
>> > Senator Massicotte: How effective would you say we are? Are we 20, 30,
>> > 80
>> or
>> > 90 per cent effective?
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: Our Commissioner has said that our operations impact 25
>> > per
>> > cent of the 600 criminal organizations in all. There is nonetheless one
>> > important element that we are completely overlooking. My proposals are
>> aimed
>> > at bringing in more stringent legislation that would give our
>> investigators
>> > the tools to target organized crime where it hurts most, namely their
>> > financial operations.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: Honourable senators, our next two meetings will be
>> > on
>> > May 31 and June 1, when we will deal with two reports that have been
>> > sent
>> to
>> > your offices. One concerns the demographic study, which we will deal
>> > with
>> on
>> > June 1. The other relates to a revised consumer report.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Thank you very much, Deputy Commissioner.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > Ms. Tracy, thank you for coming. It flowed from the testimony you both
>> gave
>> > that you would be willing to provide further information, particularly
>> > Ms.
>> > Tracy on the issue of jurisprudence.
>> >
>> > Given the importance of what we are doing in terms of our collective
>> > security, this has not been enough time. The steering committee will
>> > consider conducting further hearings on this subject. If you feel that
>> would
>> > like to come back or have further information, either from the point of
>> view
>> > of the RCMP or your agency, I would invite you to do so.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: The point that needs clarification is the elimination of
>> some
>> > of these records from our files, and it is obviously a concern around
>> > this
>> > forum.
>> >
>> > I will endeavour to provide a reply in writing as to our policies in
>> > relation to retention dates. If you are not satisfied with the reply, I
>> > would be more than willing to come back and answer your questions.
>> >
>> > The Deputy Chairman: That would be fine.
>> >
>> > You made a point regarding lawyers. Originally, I recall that lawyers
>> > were
>> > well covered in the legislation, but they raised issues of professional
>> > solicitor-client privilege, what some might call a moratorium on
>> enforcement
>> > against lawyers. I can tell you from personal experience that some law
>> firms
>> > actually act as if they are bound by the law. They comply and do the
>> > declarations, and everything is fine. However, there is a cadre of one,
>> two
>> > and three person practices, and I think those would be the ones that
>> concern
>> > you more. We have been informed by some of the evidence that there are
>> > discussions.
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> > Discussions are under way between officials and lawyers.
>> >
>> > [English]
>> >
>> > What is the tenor of these discussions? We are told that in the United
>> > States, in the United Kingdom and other jurisdictions, which all have
>> > the
>> > same justice system as we do and the same legal ethics and codes of
>> conduct
>> > for lawyers, they do not have this problem that we have encountered in
>> > Canada.
>> >
>> > This committee would like to find a solution. As I understood your
>> evidence,
>> > it is one of the biggest lacunas in legislation. If you could enlighten
>> > us
>> > as to where it is headed, that would be helpful.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas: I certainly will.
>> >
>> > The committee adjourned.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > RCMP chief had 'no choice' but to come clean
>> > SCOTT DEVEAU
>> >
>> > Globe and Mail Update
>> >
>> > Outgoing RCMP Commissioner Guiliano Zaccardelli said Thursday in Ottawa
>> that
>> > he "had no choice" but to come clean when he realized he had made
>> > mistakes
>> > in his testimony in the case of Maher Arar. The comments came the same
>> > day
>> > as Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day faced tough questions over Mr.
>> > Zaccardelli's resignation. "I had no choice. I had never had any choice
>> but
>> > to tell the truth," Mr. Zaccardelli said during a press conference in
>> > Ottawa.
>> >
>> > Á 1100
>> > The Chair (Hon. Paul DeVillers (Simcoe North, Lib.))
>> > Mr. Guy Racine (Mayor, Reeve of the MRC Haute-Yamaska and
>> > Spokesperson for the Coalition of Mayors, City of Granby)
>> >
>> > Á 1105
>> >
>> > Á 1110
>> >
>> > Á 1115
>> >
>> > Á 1120
>> >
>> > Á 1125
>> >
>> > Á 1130
>> >
>> > Á 1135
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour (Mayor, City of Rivière-du-Loup)
>> >
>> > Á 1140
>> >
>> > Á 1145
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. André Langevin (Mayor, City of Coaticook)
>> >
>> > Á 1150
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Gilles Veilleux (Representative, City of Roberval)
>> >
>> > Á 1155
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Claude Vigneault (Mayor, Municipality of
>> Îles-de-la-Madeleine)
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean Thériault (Representative, City of Baie-Comeau)
>> >
>> > Â 1200
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean-Claude Patenaude (Representative, City of
>> > Saint-Hyacinthe)
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Ms. Colette Roy Laroche (Mayor, City Lac-Mégantic)
>> >
>> > Â 1205
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> >
>> > Â 1210
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Vic Toews (Provencher, CPC)
>> >
>> > Â 1215
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour
>> >
>> > Â 1220
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard (Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, BQ)
>> >
>> > Â 1225
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard
>> > Mr. Robert Vincent (Shefford, BQ)
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. David Christopherson (Hamilton Centre, NDP)
>> >
>> > Â 1230
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Gosselin (Municipal Counsel, City of Coaticook)
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. David Christopherson
>> >
>> > Â 1235
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Hon. Denis Paradis (Brome-Missisquoi, Lib.)
>> >
>> > Â 1240
>> >
>> > Â 1245
>> > Mr. Paul Crête (Montmagny-L'Islet-Kamouraska-
>> BQ)
>> > Hon. Denis Paradis
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Garry Breitkreuz (Yorkton-Melville, CPC)
>> >
>> > Â 1250
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Hon. Roy Cullen (Etobicoke North, Lib.)
>> >
>> > Â 1255
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. André Langevin
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard
>> >
>> > · 1300
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Serge Ménard
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> > Mr. Guy Racine
>> > The Chair
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> ------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > CANADA
>> >
>> >
>> > Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency
>> > Preparedness
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> ------
>> > NUMBER 012
>> > l 1st SESSION
>> > l 38th PARLIAMENT
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> ------
>> >
>> > EVIDENCE
>> > Tuesday, December 7, 2004
>> > [Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]
>> > * * *
>> >
>> > Á (1100)
>> >
>> > [Translation]
>> >
>> >
>> > The Chair (Hon. Paul DeVillers (Simcoe North, Lib.)): I call to order
>> > this meeting of the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public
>> > Safety and Emergency Preparedness.
>> >
>> > Our witnesses are the mayors and representatives of the
>> municipalities.
>> > We are carrying out a study on the closing of RCMP detachments in the
>> > regions. Mr. Racine, Mayor of the City of Granby, is the spokesperson.
>> >
>> > Mr. Mayor, I would like to ask you to introduce the representatives
>> > accompanying you.
>> >
>> > We usually give our witnesses about 10 minutes to make their
>> > presentation. However, I know that you have to share your time with all
>> > of
>> > the municipality representatives, so I will ask you to make all of your
>> > presentations in 30 or 40 minutes. In that way, the members will have
>> > time
>> > to ask their questions.
>> >
>> > Mayor Racine, you may begin.
>> >
>> >
>> > Mr. Guy Racine (Mayor, Reeve of the MRC Haute-Yamaska and Spokesperson
>> > for the Coalition of Mayors, City of Granby): Thank you very much, Mr.
>> > Chairman, for welcoming and agreeing to hear us. We very much appreciate
>> it.
>> >
>> > Before starting and introducing my colleagues, I'd like to take a few
>> > moments to point out the members who are with us here today. I hope I
>> won't
>> > forget any. This presentation is quite a production.
>> >
>> > With us are Mr. Vincent, member for Shefford--my riding--Mr. Crête,
>> > member for Montmagny-L'Islet-Kamouraska-
>> member
>> > for Compton-Stanstead, the Honourable Denis Paradis, from
>> Brome-Missisquoi,
>> > who was a major partner in this issue. Have I forgotten any members?
>> >
>> > An hon. member: Marc Boulianne.
>> >
>> > Mr. Guy Racine: Not to mention Marc Boulianne, member for
>> > Mégantic-L'Érable.
>> >
>> > Pardon me; I looked around a little earlier. And yet we both have the
>> > same haircut. I should have remembered. Pardon me.
>> >
>> > I'm told that the member for Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot, Mr. Loubier, will
>> be
>> > here in a few moments.
>> >
>> > Mr. Chairman, with your permission, I'd also like to note the presence
>> > in this room of the former member for Shefford, Ms. Saint-Jacques, who
>> > ardently worked on the RCMP file, and David Price. A warm hello to them.
>> >
>> > Now allow me to introduce the mayors and the mayors' representatives
>> > here with us. Some mayors couldn't be here today.
>> >
>> > So we have Gilles Veilleux, representative of the City of Roberval;
>> > André Langevin, mayor of the City of Coaticook, and Serge Gosselin,
>> > municipal councillor of the City of Coaticook; Jean Thériault,
>> > representative of the City of Baie-Comeau; Claude Vigneault, mayor of
>> > the
>> > municipality of Îles-de-la-Madeleine; Jean-Clause Patenaude,
>> representative
>> > of the City of Saint-Hyacinthe; Colette Roy Laroche, mayor of the City
>> > of
>> > Lac-Mégantic; Jean D'Amour, mayor of the City of Rivière-du-Loup, and
>> > Johanne St-Pierre, his director of communications.
>> >
>> > I am the mayor of the City of Granby and the reeve of the MRC
>> > Haute-Yamaska. I'm acting as the spokesman of the common front of mayors
>> who
>> > find this decision unacceptable.
>> >
>> > Here's how I'll proceed, Mr. Chairman. As the spokesperson, I'll read
>> > you the message summing up the issue as a whole. Then I'll hand over,
>> > for
>> a
>> > brief period, perhaps two or three minutes, to the people here with me
>> > so
>> > that they can add to the information given to you.
>> >
>> > Then we'll be pleased to answer your questions or to listen to your
>> > comments.
>> >
>> > With your permission, I'll proceed.
>> >
>> > Following the September 23, 2004 announcement, the mayors of the
>> cities
>> > affected by the closing of the RCMP detachments met with Pierre-Yves
>> > Bourduas of the RCMP. The latter explained to them that the aim of this
>> > administrative decision was to redeploy the RCMP's forces so it could
>> better
>> > fulfill its mandate.
>> >
>> > This announcement was made at the same time as Operation Cisaille was
>> > being carried out to combat marijuana cultivation. The federal
>> government's
>> > decision to close RCMP detachments in nine Quebec cities has led to the
>> > creation of a coalition of the mayors of the cities concerned, as well
>> > as
>> of
>> > the reeves of the MRCs where these RCMP detachments are located, backed
>> > by
>> > the elected members for these ridings.
>> >
>> > Á (1105)
>> >
>> > The aim of this group's concerted efforts is to request the federal
>> > government to declare a moratorium on and review this decision.
>> >
>> > The withdrawal of the RCMP from our communities is a serious threat to
>> > the security of the populations concerned and creates an opening for
>> > increased crime. The RCMP's presence was fostering better partnership
>> > with
>> > the various authorities in our communities and the local police forces.
>> >
>> > Increasingly, criminal activity is extending beyond the borders of the
>> > major urban centres and the signatories to this report object to any
>> > reorganization that drains the regions of their services, at a time
>> > when,
>> at
>> > every level, decentralization is becoming a major tool for local
>> > development.
>> >
>> > The Annual Report of the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada dealing
>> > with organized crime in Canada in 2004 says "Illicit drug activities
>> > fuel
>> > violence unlike any other criminal activity. There are socio-economic
>> costs
>> > associated with the illicit drug trade such as property crimes, assaults
>> and
>> > homicides."
>> >
>> > This same report stresses that "illicit commodities are either
>> concealed
>> > within the larger volume of legitimate commercial and traveller movement
>> > entering through designated customs entry points or smuggled
>> surreptitiously
>> > through the vast stretches of less controlled border areas." It also
>> states
>> > that organized criminals will exploit less controlled areas. It is
>> > noteworthy that the Executive Committee of the Criminal Intelligence
>> Service
>> > Canada (CISC) is chaired by the RCMP Commissioner.
>> >
>> > Let's talk about Baie-Comeau and the Baie-Comeau region. There are
>> > almost 600 km separating Baie-Comeau from the Labrador border along
>> Highway
>> > 389 in a non-urban and unwatched area, leaving the way clear for the
>> > many
>> > narcotics smugglers. The closest RCMP detachment is in Sept-Îles, 240 km
>> > away, leaving Baie-Comeau with no federal policing service. The
>> Baie-Comeau
>> > SQ detachment has only four police officers in its narcotics-related
>> > organized crime squad to cover over 900 km of roads, that is to say 600
>> > km
>> > with the Labrador border, 200 km with Tadoussac and 120 km with
>> > Baie-Trinité.
>> >
>> > Since the closing of the Baie-Comeau RCMP detachment, confidential
>> > information indicates that no maritime surveillance is happening at all.
>> > Furthermore, no joint SQ-RCMP projects are being contemplated for
>> > Baie-Comeau which, in the past, have led to arrests for trafficking or
>> > possession for the purpose of trafficking. These joint operations were
>> > making it possible to fight drug trafficking better.
>> >
>> > Since September 11, 2001, the RCMP's priority has been focused on
>> border
>> > entry points, with little surveillance of the maritime routes. The
>> personnel
>> > at Sept-Îles consists of one supervisor and three police officers who
>> > have
>> > to cover the area from Tadoussac to Blanc-Sablon and from Schefferville
>> > to
>> > Anticosti. Since their workload is already excessive for the Sept-Îles
>> area
>> > alone, maritime surveillance is currently nonexistent. The people who
>> > were
>> > working in Baie-Comeau were not transferred to Sept-Îles, but to
>> > different
>> > provinces in Canada. From eight officers on duty in Sept-Îles, there are
>> now
>> > no more than four. We can assert that the "way is open" for traffickers
>> > in
>> > Baie-Comeau, via the Seaway.
>> >
>> > For the City of Baie-Comeau, the entire maritime component of the St.
>> > Lawrence River is being left without surveillance. A lot of narcotics
>> > trafficking takes place on vessels travelling in these waters and using
>> the
>> > Baie-Comeau harbour and the Alcoa and Cargill Ltée wharfs.
>> >
>> > Á (1110)
>> >
>> > The federal wharf received 68 vessels in 2003, Alcoa 78 and Cargill
>> 119.
>> > Those vessels came from Algeria, Brazil, Sweden, Asia and the United
>> States.
>> >
>> > For Baie-Comeau, in spite of the Sûreté du Québec's efforts, their
>> > personnel is clearly insufficient: four police officers are assigned to
>> the
>> > organized crime squad to watch Highways 138 and 389 to Labrador, giving
>> > narcotics traffickers free rein.
>> >
>> > The population of the MRC Manicouagan, of which the City of
>> Baie-Comeau
>> > is part, is 31,479 residents and, to this number, must be added 3,600
>> > Aboriginal people who represent 11.4 percent of the total population.
>> >
>> > Let's talk about Coaticook. The MRC de Coaticook has 18,500
>> inhabitants
>> > and would be henceforth served by the Sherbrooke RCMP located 35
>> kilometers
>> > away and 40 minutes travel time. The agricultural producers in the
>> Coaticook
>> > region are dealing with pot growers who invade their land and corn
>> > fields.
>> >
>> > The MRC de Coaticook runs along 30 km of the US border with the states
>> > of Vermont and New Hampshire and this border would be left without
>> > surveillance except for the three border crossing points located on
>> Highways
>> > 253, 141 and 147. Finally, in the Coaticook area, Highways 253
>> > (East-Hereford - Beecher Falls), 141 (Hereford and Canaan), and 147
>> > (Stanhope) are unwatched.
>> >
>> > As regards the City of Granby and the Granby region, the RCMP has been
>> > providing an essential presence in Granby since 1949. Granby has no more
>> > than three police officers to cover a very vast territory comprising
>> > three
>> > border crossing points. The day after the announcement, the RCMP
>> > building
>> > was covered with graffiti saying "Good riddance!". All that was missing
>> was
>> > the applause.
>> >
>> > The elected member for Shefford in 2003, Diane St-Jacques, with the
>> > assistance of the mayors, prefects and RCMP, SQ and municipal police
>> > management, had obtained the government's assurance that the Granby
>> > detachment would remain open.
>> >
>> > We were told that the RCMP was to consult the elected members, mayors
>> > and other stakeholders before making any decision whatsoever, but
>> > instead
>> we
>> > were faced with a fait accompli, without any consultation having taken
>> > place, with the excuse that it had to redeploy its forces to the major
>> > centres.
>> >
>> > One might legitimately ask what Drummondville has as a major centre
>> that
>> > Granby does not. We feel that this choice is unjustified.
>> >
>> > The closing of the RCMP detachment represents a terrible loss for the
>> > city and the MRC, because, without a strong police presence, the area is
>> > open to organized crime and criminals of all sorts. The government is
>> giving
>> > free rein to cannabis growing, narcotics trafficking, alcohol
>> > bootlegging,
>> > motorcycle gangs and terrorism, while weakening the enforcement of over
>> 130
>> > federal laws.
>> >
>> > Our municipal security service in Granby cooperates regularly with the
>> > RCMP on almost a daily basis on a number of matters: criminal motorcycle
>> > gangs, narcotics trafficking, alcohol bootlegging, criminal
>> investigations,
>> > and so on.
>> >
>> > Á (1115)
>> >
>> > Should we conclude that one wants to make way for organized crime in
>> the
>> > area? Because this closure is an invitation to organized crime to head
>> > to
>> > the Eastern Townships, to our regions where the borders are open.
>> >
>> > The Sûreté du Québec and the municipal police forces cannot pick up
>> all
>> > the slack for the area served. Along with undermanning at the Sûreté du
>> > Québec due to the map revision in 2002, 174 municipal police forces have
>> > merged into 44. There is widespread dissatisfaction among the cities
>> served
>> > by the SQ and the municipal police force's job has grown. And who will
>> > end
>> > up paying for it? The citizens, of course. It will cost more to boost
>> > municipal police forces, because the SQ is undermanned and the RCMP is
>> > closing its detachments.
>> >
>> > Our citizens pay municipal taxes for municipal policing, provincial
>> > taxes for the SQ and federal taxes for the RCMP. But we are not
>> > receiving
>> > these services and, on top of that, we are not being consulted.
>> >
>> > Some RCMP staff members have, in fact, stated that their numbers are
>> > clearly insufficient to combat organized crime. As proof, the number of
>> > officers in Granby dropped from six to three in one year. The City of
>> Granby
>> > has 46,500 inhabitants, in the very heart of the MRC Haute-Yamaska,
>> > which
>> > has 78,000 inhabitants. We will become an excellent place for organized
>> > crime, near to everything and far from everything.
>> >
>> > As for the Magdalen Islands, the federal and provincial police
>> > authorities are aware that marine space is frequently used as a channel
>> for
>> > narcotics trafficking. With the Magdalen Islands being located in the
>> middle
>> > of the Gulf of St. Lawrence, the RCMP officers were vigilant in
>> > combating
>> > marine and air smuggling traffic. We can expect narcotics smuggling to
>> > proliferate once the RCMP is no longer watching the marine space.
>> >
>> > In the Magdalen Islands, the closing of the RCMP detachment will
>> affect
>> > the surveillance of marine and air narcotics smuggling and the
>> > confrontations between seal hunters and anti-seal hunting activists are
>> > likely to increase.
>> >
>> > For the Magdalen Islands, it is primarily the marine space that will
>> not
>> > be watched for possible seaborne or airborne traffic.
>> >
>> > As for the Joliette region, the MRC de Joliette detachment has existed
>> > since 1949. Two years ago, Joliette could count on more than a dozen
>> > officers serving its territory. This year, there are no more than four
>> > officers and, tomorrow, there will be nobody.
>> >
>> > Joliette cannot concur with the plan concocted by management that will
>> > have policing services for the MRC concentrated in Saint-Jérôme or
>> > Trois-Rivières. This territory will be orphaned, without a federal
>> policing
>> > service nearby. Yet, like everywhere else, crime is not decreasing. It
>> > is
>> > the entire Lanaudière region that will be deprived of policing services.
>> > Furthermore, the community pays taxes that should provide it with the
>> > same
>> > services as elsewhere.
>> >
>> > The Joliette region will be doubly penalized: firstly, by losing
>> > personnel that the citizens have paid for and, secondly, by having to
>> > increase the number of provincial or municipal officers in order to get
>> the
>> > same services. It is common knowledge that reducing the number of police
>> > officers has always resulted in an increase in crime.
>> >
>> > Á (1120)
>> >
>> > The population is worried because it seems that the RCMP is already
>> > quietly vacating the premises. The detachment is already no longer
>> > taking
>> > calls for complaints but is referring them to Saint-Jérôme.
>> >
>> > Is the Joliette RCMP detachment effectively closed and is it being
>> wound
>> > up even before we can be heard by the Justice Committee? Is the
>> consultation
>> > process only for show or to have us believe that we can influence the
>> > decision?
>> >
>> > What I'm saying about Joliette we've heard about Granby and the
>> Magdalen
>> > Islands. As you'll see in the rest of the presentation, which is coming
>> > to
>> > an end, that will be repeated. The dismantling has begun, and we're
>> > appearing before the committee today in order to be heard. It's somewhat
>> > ironic, but we have evidence in our regions that the dismantling has
>> begun.
>> >
>> > In Lanaudière, the RCMP officers were handling close to 250 cases a
>> year
>> > and conducting 100 or so searches. The statistics for the past few years
>> > attest to this.
>> >
>> > We are thus opposed to the closing of the RCMP detachment in Joliette.
>> > We do not want to be treated like a second-class region. We are a
>> > full-fledged region and we demand the same rights and privileges as
>> > other
>> > regions of Quebec and Canada. We therefore insist that the government
>> leave
>> > the detachment and officers as they are. The Lanaudière region deserves
>> > to
>> > be treated equitably. We demand the same services as elsewhere. It is
>> > our
>> > strictest right.
>> >
>> > As I mentioned, the same sentence could have been repeated from city
>> to
>> > city.
>> >
>> > Moving on to the City of Lac-Mégantic, the RCMP has been there for
>> over
>> > 50 years. The methods of the criminal groups have changed but they are
>> > now
>> > increasingly found operating locally, in rural areas, in more insidious
>> > forms. For the MRC de Granit, its low population density, accessibility
>> and
>> > isolated farm and forest land are conducive to the growing, dealing and
>> > distribution of cannabis. This region is a preferred doorway for
>> > exporting
>> > cannabis in exchange for other narcotics from the United States. The
>> > proximity of the Canada-US border (31 km) and the reassignment of the
>> > RCMP
>> > officers to Sherbrooke (130 km from Lac-Mégantic) and Saint-Georges de
>> > Beauce (110 km from Lac-Mégantic) will mean that they will no longer be
>> able
>> > to carry out regular preventive patrols along the border. The region
>> > comprises 171 kilometers of Canada-US border along the states of Main
>> > and
>> > New Hampshire. The large distances to cover significantly reduce the
>> ability
>> > of officers to respond quickly to emergency calls from customs and
>> > immigration officers.
>> >
>> > The closing of the RCMP detachments for the border municipalities will
>> > allow the criminal groups, clandestine immigrant smugglers and terrorist
>> > organizations to operate more easily. The RCMP detachments in our
>> > municipalities and the preventive patrols on our territory are
>> > deterrents
>> in
>> > the fight against organized crime. The government's restructuring is
>> > thus
>> > weakening police intervention in the rural regions.
>> >
>> > There are close to 90,000 inhabitants in the City of Rivière-du-Loup
>> and
>> > region and approximately 100 km of its border is shared with the United
>> > States. Its geographical situation makes it a very spread-out area with
>> > concentrated urbanized areas. The secondary roads and "rangs" are great
>> > places for illicit activities, mainly due to their isolation and low
>> > population density. The main criminal activities observed in this region
>> are
>> > related to drugs (growing, distribution and sale), contraband (alcohol
>> > and
>> > cigarettes) and theft networks. The closing of the RCMP detachment puts
>> the
>> > region in a vulnerable position because it will be exposed.
>> >
>> > Á (1125)
>> >
>> > The presence of a well-known motorcycle gang in the Pocatière area
>> > confirms that criminal organizations are no longer solely active in the
>> > major centres but that regional communities also have to contend with
>> them.
>> >
>> > The Rivière-du-Loup region includes infrastructures that are conducive
>> > to and facilitate the transhipment of illicit goods, whether it be via
>> > the
>> > airport, the wharf facilities or the road system. With the closing of
>> > the
>> > RCMP detachments, the municipal public security services will have
>> > additional responsibilities thrust upon them for which they do not have
>> the
>> > required expertise to conduct investigations under the many complex
>> federal
>> > laws, especially as this type of mandate does not fit the level of
>> service.
>> >
>> > Furthermore, some crimes take place in the cities but they originate
>> in
>> > neighbouring municipalities where the local police have no jurisdiction
>> > to
>> > intervene. In the same vein, many municipalities currently deplore the
>> > reduction in the number of patrols carried out by the Sûreté du Québec
>> > in
>> > their cities, since their municipal police force was abolished.
>> >
>> > The Rivière-du-Loup region has many unwatched roads and trails in the
>> > Pohénégamook, Témiscouata and Kamouraska areas that can be accessed by
>> > various means of transportation such as four-wheel drive vehicles,
>> > snowmobiles, etc.
>> >
>> > The removal of services inevitably means added costs for our citizens.
>> >
>> > As for Roberval, the priority that the RCMP claims to be giving to the
>> > Aboriginal issue also opens up a number of questions for us. The
>> Aboriginal
>> > communities that are located near urban centres may be properly served,
>> > perhaps, but what about the more northern communities of the Innu, Cree
>> and
>> > Atikamek.
>> >
>> > The demographic statistics are well known: a non-Aboriginal Quebec
>> > family produces 1.43 children per family, whereas Quebec Aboriginal
>> families
>> > produce 4.3 children per family. Thirty percent of the population in
>> > these
>> > communities is under 16 years of age with all the attending social
>> miseries
>> > (alcoholism, substance abuse, suicide, sexual abuse) experienced by such
>> > communities. The RCMP has no known strategy to follow up on these issues
>> > than to close the detachments neighbouring these communities. They
>> > surely
>> do
>> > not realize how fragile the situation is.
>> >
>> > Nobody can be happy about this situation and the presence of the RCMP
>> on
>> > federal lands is essential. The Sûreté du Québec must support the RCMP
>> > and
>> > the Aboriginal police forces but the responsibility for supporting local
>> > police forces rests primarily with the federal government. In this
>> > geographical context, what message does the Canadian government wish to
>> > deliver to the Quebec regions and the Aboriginal communities?
>> >
>> > Lastly, before concluding, I'd like to talk about the Saint-Hyacinthe
>> > region. For a number of years, the Saint-Hyacinthe region has been
>> > contending with organized crime squatting on farmland for the purpose of
>> > growing large amounts of cannabis. With the presence of the RCMP
>> detachment
>> > over the past few years, the situation has greatly improved. The RCMP
>> > represents an important deterrent in the fight against organized crime.
>> The
>> > RCMP and the SQ exchange information almost daily.
>> >
>> > In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, the mayors request that the Solicitor
>> > General decree a moratorium on the decision announced regarding the
>> > reassignment of the personnel of nine RCMP detachments in Quebec,
>> especially
>> > as this decision was made without any real consultation having taken
>> place.
>> > They invite the Solicitor General to review this matter, stay the
>> > decision
>> > and give back to the municipalities the personnel needed to carry out
>> > the
>> > RCMP's mandates.
>> >
>> > Á (1130)
>> >
>> > By closing the nine RCMP detachments in Quebec, the Canadian
>> government
>> > is sending a clear message to criminal groups: "Come out to the regions,
>> > there is no more surveillance." The new policy advocated by the
>> > government
>> > in the RCMP issue seems to be based more on an internal management
>> operation
>> > rather than on a real concern to better protect the borders and help
>> > stop
>> > organized crime and terrorism.
>> >
>> > A complete analysis of criminal movements operating in the regions is
>> > urgently needed, unless one already exists and has been ignored. It
>> > seems
>> > unlikely that the use of border detection will be as efficient and
>> effective
>> > as systematic patrolling. The Americans realized this quickly on
>> > September
>> > 11, 2001. Following the atrocious and tragic events in New York, the
>> > media
>> > brought out the fact that the American administration might have focused
>> too
>> > much on intelligence to the detriment of a more deterrent local
>> > presence.
>> >
>> > No detection surveillance or intelligence-oriented techniques could be
>> > as great a deterrent as a local presence. The minimum number of officers
>> and
>> > necessary funds must be given back to the regions so that we can fight
>> crime
>> > and the resulting social problems effectively. By losing the RCMP
>> personnel
>> > in our municipalities, we lose the synergy with our police forces and
>> > the
>> > stakeholders in the community.
>> >
>> > Everyone is decrying this decision: the mayors of the nine cities
>> > concerned; the MRC prefects; the Association des policiers provinciaux;
>> the
>> > Fédération des policiers et policières municipaux du Québec; the
>> Fraternité
>> > des policiers de la Montérégie; the Association de la Gendarmerie Royale
>> du
>> > Canada au Québec. We are unanimous in requesting that this decision be
>> > reversed, or at the very least that a moratorium be decreed, to
>> > re-examine
>> > the whole situation.
>> >
>> > We request that we be ensured that our taxes provide us with the same
>> > services as elsewhere. Crime and organized crime circles are not
>> > confined
>> to
>> > any regions, cities or borders and do not need a consultation study or
>> > to
>> be
>> > heard by committees in order to act. They are where we are not. They
>> > look
>> > for the weak link. Do not make way for them because, rest assured, they
>> will
>> > come, if they have not already done so.
>> >
>> > Mr. Chairman and committee members, thank you for your attention. With
>> > your permission, I'm going to hand over to the representatives and
>> > mayors
>> > here with me today. They will round out the brief description I've given
>> you
>> > of the regions as a whole. I'll start with the mayor of Rivière-du-Loup,
>> Mr.
>> > D'Amour.
>> >
>> > Á (1135)
>> >
>> >
>> > Mr. Jean D'Amour (Mayor, City of Rivière-du-Loup): Thank you very
>> much,
>> > Mr. Racine. Ladies and gentlemen, first I want to thank you for
>> > receiving
>> us
>> > this morning. This is a particularly important subject for us.
>> >
>> > First, I'll say that the RCMP presence in Rivière-du-Loup dates back
>> to
>> > 1932. At that time, we had nine officers; from nine, the number fell to
>> > seven, then to two. We've finally just been told that, with only two
>> > resource persons, they can't adequately serve the area. I can't do
>> anything
>> > but agree with that. With two persons, how can anyone do a proper job?
>> >
>> > I don't intend to return to what my colleague, Mr. Racine, said a
>> moment
>> > ago about Rivière-du-Loup. Simply to clarify the context, I will say
>> > that
>> > Rivière-du-Loup is roughly 110 kilometers from the Atlantic Provinces
>> > and
>> > approximately 100 kilometers from Maine. We own an airport and have a
>> > deep
>> > water port nearby, the seaport of Gros-Cacouna.
>> >
>> > In short, there is a lot of traffic entering Rivière-du-Loup. With
>> > regard to the centralization of RCMP operations in Rimouski and
>> > Saint-Georges de Beauce, I would point out that Rimouski is
>> > approximately
>> > 120 kilometers from Rivière-du-Loup and Saint-Georges de Beauce 277
>> > kilometers. You can imagine the kind of situation this leads to in
>> > Rivière-du-Loup.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bourduas, who was asked how the RCMP would continue protecting the
>> > roads that are already protected and protecting the 100 or 150 access
>> > ways
>> > scattered over the area which are not, told us that that could be done
>> > electronically. He told us--and I take the liberty of repeating his
>> > words--that access via certain roads was monitored electronically and
>> > that
>> > RCMP officers did checks. They don't move in a case of a deer, but they
>> > do
>> > if they observe regular traffic. Can you imagine a smuggler deciding
>> > that
>> > Tuesday morning at nine o'clock is his day and time? I don't think so.
>> This
>> > situation is causing a lot of concern in Rivière-du-Loup.
>> >
>> > Lastly, let me tell you that, at a time when there has never been so
>> > much drug and narcotic activity in the area, the RCMP, by the actions it
>> is
>> > taking today, that is to say its reassignment process, will jump-start
>> > the
>> > crime industry like never before. This concerns us. Today drugs are
>> > being
>> > found in elementary schools. I don't know whether that disturbs you, but
>> > that concerns me, particularly as a mayor and the father of four
>> > children.
>> >
>> > Now I'm going to talk about the effects of this situation on police
>> ...
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