Friday, 8 November 2019

'If Quebec can do it, why not Alberta?'

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Jason Kenney should review the first few statements in my lawsuit (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) that was filed against the Queen in 2015 when Harper was the PM and Kenney was one of his Ministers Correct?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-fair-deal-panel-1.5354642



Alberta addresses separatist sentiment by studying measures that would give province more autonomy

Kenney's speech 'intentionally stoking the fires of western alienation,' former premier Notley says



Sarah Rieger · CBC News · Posted: Nov 09, 2019 3:45 PM MT




Alberta Premier Jason Kenney, pictured in an October file photo, addressed Manning Conference attendees in Red Deer on Saturday. (Amber Bracken/The Canadian Press)

Alberta's premier is addressing western alienation by taking a page out of Quebec's handbook and looking at ways to give the province more autonomy.

Alberta will open offices in other provinces, introduce an act to give Albertans the power to petition for referendums and create a panel to look at giving the province further independence, like pulling out of the Federal-Provincial Tax Collection Agreement or establishing a provincial police force.

Premier Jason Kenney made the sweeping announcement Saturday during a keynote address to close the Manning Conference in Red Deer, Alta., an event held by the Manning Centre, a Calgary-based right-wing think-tank.




"Albertans have been working for Ottawa for too long. It's time for Ottawa to start working for us … they must stop taking us for granted," Kenney said.

"They need to understand they're killing the golden goose. They have both fists wrapped around the throat of that goose."

Watch Jason Kenney's speech:

https://www.facebook.com/cbccalgary/videos/707109319798185/

Reform Party founder Preston Manning will sit on the panel, along with Stephen Lougheed, son of late former premier Peter Lougheed, former MLA Donna Kennedy-Glans and three current MLAs, among others.

Kenney said he wants to acknowledge that some Western Canadians no longer feel at home in their own country, and suggested "Laurentian elites" have both benefited from Alberta's wealth and abandoned the province in its time of need.

"How perverse is it to blame the victim in a sense when we have been doing so much to share our wealth with the rest of the country?" he asked.




But he said separation is not the answer, even though he views Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's minority government as "a danger" to the federation.

"I am and always will be a Canadian patriot. I believe that in their heart of hearts the vast majority of Albertans are Canadian patriots," he said.

"My own view is I cannot conceive how we would be better off by cutting ourselves off and landlocking ourselves from the rest of the continent."

Instead, he said he will look at what he described as bold moves to bring some powers from federal to provincial jurisdiction.

Some measures the new Fair Deal Panel will study include:
  • Establishing a provincial revenue agency by ending Alberta's Federal-Provincial Tax Collection Agreement.
  • Withdrawing from the Canada Pension Plan and establishing a provincial plan.
  • Ending the province's relationship with the RCMP and creating a provincial police force.
  • Opting out of federal cost-sharing programs.
  • Seeking an exchange of tax points for federal cash transfer.
  • Establishing a formal provincial constitution. 
  • Appointing a Chief Firearms Office for the province.
"We must maintain leverage over the federal government over the next two years to ensure completed of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion," Kenney said. "We must use wisdom to carefully stage each element of this fight for fairness."

Reform Party founder Preston Manning said that yearning for autonomy is one thing Quebec and the west have in common.

"Both want a more decentralized federation for somewhat different reasons. Quebec more for linguistic, cultural and social reasons, the west for economic reasons," he said.

The panel will consult with experts and hold town halls between Nov. 16 and Jan. 30, before completing a report to government by March 31, the release said. The panel's budget is set at $650,000.

If the panel finds support for those measures, Kenney said, the next move would be to hold referendums before moving forward — but that provision was not mentioned in his mandate letter to the panellists.

Alberta will also be opening offices in Ottawa, Quebec and B.C. to "defend the province's interests."

Similarities to 'firewall letter'


Kenney's speech shared some similarities with the famous letter that kicked off the Alberta Agenda in 2001 and called for "firewalls" to be built around the province.

That open letter, signed by future prime minister Stephen Harper among others and addressed to then-premier Ralph Klein, also called for a provincial police force and withdrawal from the Canada Pension Plan.

"Klein rejected it. He refused to move forward on it. Kenney is throwing the full weight of the government behind it. That's the difference between 2001 and today," Mount Royal University political science professor Duane Bratt said.

"The similarity is it's both in the aftermath of the Conservatives losing an election. And so you wonder, would any of this come about if there was a Conservative government? If you're pursuing an autonomous strategy, which this is within Canada, it shouldn't be dependent on who is in Ottawa."
Bratt said the speech was the most significant one Kenney has made as premier.
Today's remarks by Premier Jason Kenney are dangerous.
- Opposition Leader Rachel Notley
Opposition Leader Rachel Notley suggested Kenney is putting Albertans' pensions at risk and stoking separatist sentiment.

"Today's remarks by Premier Jason Kenney are dangerous. He is intentionally stoking the fires of western alienation in order to advance his own political objectives. He did not campaign on any of these issues," Notley said in an emailed release.

"Instead of getting to work on the priorities of Albertans … he is exploiting the real frustrations of everyday Albertans by sowing the seeds of separation with tired ideas from decades ago. Alberta is part of Canada, and Jason Kenney needs to accept that."

Trevor Tombe, an associate professor of economics at the University of Calgary, said measures like having Alberta set up its own tax collection agency don't solve any problems or achieve any particular objectives.

"Altogether, they are each proposing things that would substantially increase the size of the Alberta government and because of that higher level of government spending, potentially higher taxes in the province. So they don't represent particularly fiscal conservative initiatives," he said.

Kenney's letter to the panel outdating its mandate can be read below:


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November 9, 2019
 
Honourable Preston Manning PC CC AOE
Stephen Lougheed
Oryssia Lennie CM
Jason Goodstriker
Donna Kennedy-Glans QC
Moin Yahya PhD JD
Drew Barnes MLA
Miranda Rosin MLA
Tany Yao MLA

Dear Members of the Fair Deal Panel,
 
 Albertans have an unprecedented level of frustration with their place in the federation.
Five years of economic decline and stagnation have been deepened and prolonged by
policies emanating from the federal and some other provincial governments, many of
which have sought to landlock Alberta’s vast energy resources. This, plus policies that
interfere in areas of provincial jurisdiction, are seen by many Albertans as fundamentally
unfair, particularly given the province’s enormous contribution to the Canadian economy,
and to fiscal federalism.
 
 Recent public opinion surveys suggest that as many as one third of Albertans support the
concept of separating from the Canadian federation, and that three quarters of Albertans
understand or sympathise with this sentiment. Many Albertans who indicate support for
federalism are demanding significant reforms that will allow the province to develop its
resources, and play a larger role in the federation, commensurate with the size of its
economy and contribution to the rest of Canada.
 
 The Fair Deal Panel’s mandate is to listen to Albertans and their ideas for Alberta’s future.
The Panel should focus on ideas that would strengthen our province’s economic position,
give us a bigger voice within Confederation, or increase provincial power over institutions
and funding in areas of provincial jurisdiction. Specifically, the panel should consider
whether the following measures would advance the province’s interests:
 
 •

Establishing a provincial revenue agency to collect provincial taxes directly by
ending the Canada-Alberta Tax Collection Agreement, while joining Quebec in
seeking an agreement to collect federal taxes within the province

•

Creating an Alberta Pension Plan by withdrawing from the Canada Pension Plan

 •

Establishing a provincial police force by ending the Alberta Police Service
Agreement with the Government of Canada

•

Emulating Quebec’s practice of playing a larger role in international relations, in part
by seeking Alberta representation in treaty negotiations that effect Alberta’s interests

•

Emulating Quebec’s legal requirement that public bodies, including municipalities
and school boards, obtain the approval of the provincial government before they
can enter into agreements with the federal government

•

Using the existing provincial power to appoint the Chief Firearms Office for Alberta

•

Opting out of federal cost share programs with full compensation, such as the
federal government’s proposed pharmacare program

•

Seeking an exchange of tax points for federal cash transfers under the Canada
Health and Social Transfers

•

Establishing a formalized provincial constitution

The Panel’s consultations and recommendations may extend beyond these concepts, and
may include government platform commitments. The Panel should invite submissions and
encourage discussion on the broad range of Albertans’ views on how best to define and to
secure a fair deal for Alberta; and how best to advance the province’s vital economic
interests, such as the construction of energy pipelines. 
 
The Panel should conduct at least seven open town hall meetings across the province,
and contract with a third party or parties to organize more structured citizens’ reference
panels to be conducted in different regions. All Albertans should be given an opportunity to
provide input through online surveys, and other forms of direct feedback, both digital and
traditional. The Panel may engage research vendors to conduct empirical qualitative and
quantitative public opinion research (e.g. polling and focus groups.) The Panel should
coordinate with Members of the Legislative Assembly who may consult their own
constituents on Alberta’s future. The Panel should consult with individuals or organizations
who it believes can offer useful knowledge or experience.
 
 The Panel should seek to conduct its public consultations between November 16 and
January 30, 2019, and complete its report to the government by March 31, 2020. The
budget for the Panel will be set at $650,000. It will receive administrative support from
Executive Council and other government departments as appropriate.
Sincerely,

Hon Jason Kenney
Premier of Alberta

With files from Joel Dryden, Terri Trembath and Helen Pike






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David Amos
One of the measures the new Fair Deal Panel will study include:
Ending the province's relationship with the RCMP and creating a provincial police force.

Whereas the lawyer Anne McLellan advises Canada's current Prime Minister Jason Kenney and all the other Premiers should review the first few statements in my lawsuit (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) that was filed against the Queen in 2015 when Harper was the PM and Kenney was one of his Ministers Correct?

Statement # 3
Her Majesty the Queen’s servants the RCMP whose mandate is to serve and protect Canadian citizens and assist in the security of parliamentary properties and the protection of public officials should not deny a correspondence from a former Deputy Prime Minister who was appointed to be Canada’s first Minister of Public Safety in order to oversee the RCMP and their cohorts. The letter that helped to raise the ire of a fellow Canadian citizen who had never voted in his life to run for public office four times thus far is quoted as follows:

Jan 3rd, 2004

Mr. David R. Amos
153Alvin Avenue
Milton, MA U.S.A. 02186

Dear Mr. Amos

Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to my predecessor, the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety. I apologize for the delay in responding.

If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only suggest that you contact the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of criminal activity should be brought to their attention since the police are in the best position to evaluate the information and take action as deemed appropriate.

I trust that this information is satisfactory.

Yours sincerely
A. Anne McLellan 







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Methinks the most interesting person who should be attending the meeting with the boyz is the lady from the Northwest Territories Premier Caroline Cochrane N'esy Pas?  



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 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-meeting-toronto-december-1.5351986



Premiers to gather for a meeting in Toronto Dec. 2

 

Provincial and territorial leaders spoke on the phone last week for the first time since the federal election

 

Paul MacInnis · CBC News · Posted: Nov 07, 2019 4:14 PM ET




Canada's premiers at their meeting in Saskatoon on July 11, 2019 (left to right): Sandy Silver, Yukon; Dwight Ball, Newfoundland and Labrador; Brian Pallister, Manitoba; Stephen McNeil, Nova Scotia; Doug Ford, Ontario; Scott Moe, Saskatchewan; Francois Legault, Quebec; Blaine Higgs, New Brunswick; John Horgan, British Columbia; Jason Kenney, Alberta; and Joe Savikataaq, Nunavut. (Jonathan Hayward/Canadian Press)

Canada's provincial and territorial premiers will meet face-to-face on Dec. 2 in Toronto, CBC News has learned.

Last week, the leaders held a conference call chaired by Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe to discuss the Council of the Federation's (COF) approach to engaging with the new minority Liberal government in Ottawa.

It was their first conversation since the federal election and the first chance for Caroline Cochrane, the new premier of the Northwest Territories, to address her colleagues.


In a release that followed that call, Moe said that the premiers "agreed to a future meeting of the COF table before the end of the 2019 calendar year to focus on further addressing these issues."

Sources with knowledge of the meeting also told CBC News that Ontario Premier Doug Ford offered to host the gathering, so Toronto was picked for the location.
It is not yet known whether the premiers will gather for an informal dinner on the Sunday evening before the meeting — a fixture of these types of gatherings.

The premiers last met in July in Saskatoon, amid heightened interprovincial and federal tensions that have continued since the federal election.

The narrow outcome of the vote has been driving talk of regional fractures within Canada, stoked by the return of the separatist Bloc Québécois and growing signs of western alienation.

B.C. Premier John Horgan said he agreed with Premier Ford when he expressed his support during the call for increasing immigration to their provinces — an issue on which Quebec Premier François Legault is moving in the opposite direction.


And the issue of pipelines pits Quebec and B.C. against Alberta and Saskatchewan.

An official media release with more details on December's meeting is expected by Friday.
With files from Ryan Patrick Jones


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David Amos
Lest they forget

Trust that after the PM came back from surfing in Tofino recently I made certain that a lot of fellow Canadian citizens had the opportunity to know I had informed Trudeau and all his political cohorts long ago that my Father's aircraft (a PBY) crashed as it was returning to its base in Tofino in WWII. My Father was the soul survivour of the nine men onboard that day. I was the next son born to my parents. I was given the name of their friend David Ernest Hornell VC l who was killed on my Mothers birthday in 1944 and Raymond her brother who was killed to weeks before in Normandy.

I trust that many of my fellow Canadian citizens understand that the sacrifices of such honourable people in defence of democracy and justice certainly gives me the right under the Charter to sue Her Majesty the Queen when people who act in her name act wrongfully against me.


















David Amos
Methinks as Jason Kenney and all the other Premiers watch Landslide Annie help Trudeau the Younger pick a new cabinet they should review the first few statements in my lawsuit (Federal Court File No. T-1557-15) that was filed against the Queen in 2105 when Harper was the PM and Kenney was one of his Ministers N'esy Pas?

Statement # 3
Her Majesty the Queen’s servants the RCMP whose mandate is to serve and protect Canadian citizens and assist in the security of parliamentary properties and the protection of public officials should not deny a correspondence from a former Deputy Prime Minister who was appointed to be Canada’s first Minister of Public Safety in order to oversee the RCMP and their cohorts. The letter that helped to raise the ire of a fellow Canadian citizen who had never voted in his life to run for public office four times thus far is quoted as follows:

Jan 3rd, 2004

Mr. David R. Amos
153Alvin Avenue
Milton, MA U.S.A. 02186

Dear Mr. Amos

Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to my predecessor, the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety. I apologize for the delay in responding.

If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only suggest that you contact the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of criminal activity should be brought to their attention since the police are in the best position to evaluate the information and take action as deemed appropriate.

I trust that this information is satisfactory.

Yours sincerely
A. Anne McLellan”



















David Amos
Methinks if the other Premiers were wise they would replace the RCMP ASAP with their own police forces just like Ontario and Quebec already has and Kenney suggests that Alberta may do as well N'esy Pas?


David Amos  
Reply to @David Amos: However methinks Kenney may have a motive to put scare into the RCMP that is questionable to say the least N'esy Pas?

Investigation into Jason Kenney's UCP leadership campaign spreads
Drew Anderson · CBC News · Posted: Aug 06, 2019 4:09 PM MT

















Craig Macneil
Will Jason Kenny be charging the tax payers 16,000 for his luxury flights again?


Mo Bennett
Reply to @Craig Macneil: he's gonna attend via skipe from his mom's basement, same as Doug.


David Amos
Reply to @mo bennett: Methinks Jason like all the other Premiers must read my email to them yesterday by now N'esy Pas?
















Carl Smith
If they intend to talk about the equalization formula Kenney better hide in the washroom because he was part of the government that revamped the formula.


David Amos  

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Reply to @Carl Smith: Methinks Jason Baby will simply claim that times have changed and pound on the drum about the evils of liberals and their taxation schemes N'esy Pas?


David Amos  
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO


David Amos  

Reply to @Carl Smith: YUP

















Jim Harrison
Kenney will be arriving in his own UCP-branded Airbus 380.


David Amos   
Reply to @Jim Harrison: Of that I have no doubt















Jim Conor
......so......anyone in Alberta feeling a little buyers remorse yet??.......


David Amos   
Reply to @Jim conor: Methinks if they are not then they got the government they deserve N'esy Pas?


















Sophia Jones
First response to that photo: Where are the women?


Mellor Byfield
Reply to @Sophia Jones: Catherine will be all alone this time around.


David Amos   
Reply to @mellor byfield: Nope Methinks many would agree that the lady has lots of fans such as I who watching to see how she does and what she says from afar N'esy Pas?

















Ian Mackie
It'd be nice if they could cooperate to get something achieved. You know, like inter-provincial trade.


David Amos   
Reply to @Ian Mackie: Dream on

















Adam Carver
Good. The premiers need to meet more frequently in order to bridge this country and progress as a nation United.


David Amos 
Reply to @Adam Carver: Methinks you forgot that Harper's buddy Jason Kenney is attending the meeting N'esy Pas?



















Gordon Richards
Hopefully they formulate a plan to collectively hold Trudeau’s feet to the fire on issues he has ducked, dodged and outright ignored during his first disastrous term in office.


David Amos 
Reply to @Gordon Richards: Methinks that just a wicked pipe dream your having if you think that the liberal premiers won't support Trudeau The Younger N'esy Pas?



















William T Fowler
One thing we an all agree on is two pipelines to the West TMX plus EagleSpirit and the trade corridor, and making substantial curbs on immigration and then building maglevs in the metro areas.


David Amos  
Reply to @William T Fowler: Who is we?

















Bob Gillies
In 2015 Trudeau promised a "new cooperative" relationship with provinces and instead resorted to dictating to them.
Will 2019 be any different?



David Amos  
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Reply to @Bob Gillies: Methinks plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose N'esy Pas?


David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO


David Amos 
Reply to @Bob Gillies: Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose















Frank Auer
And the clown Trudeau will arrive in Aga Khans helicopter! 


David Amos  
Reply to @frank auer: Methinks a lot of folks would enjoy the circus if your wishful thinking came true N'esy Pas? 
















David Amos 
Methinks if Premier Higgs loses the confidence vote after the Speech From the Throne in a couple of weeks he will be far too busy trying to get reelected to attend the meeting in Toronto N'esy Pas? 


Maggie Leard
Reply to @David Amos: if that the case it will be too bad for the Premier's meetings. Higgs has brought new brunswick out of the dark ages of economics and job creations...the new brunswick electors in some areas of province are beginning to notice that socialism welfair leads to a lesser life for all. keeping Higgs will move new brunswick back into their rightful place in confederation - that is a leader of provincial and international affairs. new brunswick for decades has tried to maganamously make new brunswick just another french speaking province when in fact it has always been a leader within confederation and a defender of the loyalists values instilled with the leading democracy in canada. 


David Amos
Reply to @Maggie Leard: Methinks if your tuly believer that your hero Higgy is oh so wonderful then I must ask why di he ignore my lawsuit or the hearing within the EUB before he became Premier? Better yet why not ask your beloved Premier why he is continuing to deny my right to Health Care while covering up the theft of my property and the Yankee wiretap tapes of the mob N'esy Pas? 
 

Maggie Leard
too bad King Ralph Klein can not attend.


David Amos 
Reply to @Maggie Leard: WHy So he could remind Kenney that Maritimers should freeze in the dark?

















FRANCIS DOYLE
This is a chance for these Premiers to step up to the plate and work together as a group for the welfare of Canadians,anything less is unacceptable. As my Mom & Dad always said talk is cheap but actions speak louder than words. Remember this is all on the Taxpayers dime so please don't waste our time & money and do the job you were elected to do.


Steve Wilson
Reply to @FRANCIS DOYLE: ... I predict disappointment ....


David Amos 
Reply to @steve wilson: Me Too
















David Amos 
Methinks the most interesting person who should be attending the meeting with the boyz is the lady from the Northwest Territories Premier Caroline Cochrane N'esy Pas?  



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Methinks nobody is surprised by the revelation of Kenney's nonsense excepting Premier Higgy That wannabe cowboy plans to prorogue the legislature in NB in a couple of weeks in order to make a bid for a majority mandate N'esy Pas?








https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-premier-charter-1.5351465 



Alberta premier chartered $16K flight to fly 3 premiers to Saskatoon after Stampede event

Saskatchewan's Scott Moe, New Brunswick's Blaine Higgs, their wives among 16 passengers



Michelle Bellefontaine · CBC News · Posted: Nov 07, 2019 9:55 AM MT




Alberta Premier Jason Kenney, right, hosts a Stampede breakfast with visiting premiers, left to right, Robert McLeod, of the Northwest Territories, Blaine Higgs, of New Brunswick, Scott Moe, of Saskatchewan, and Doug Ford, of Ontario, in Calgary on July 8. (Jeff McIntosh/The Canadian Press)

Premier Jason Kenney spent over $16,000 in public money to fly three other premiers from Calgary to the Council of the Federation meeting in Saskatoon last July, Alberta's Official Opposition said Thursday.

The July 8 Sunwest Aviation flight, which flew conservative premiers Scott Moe of Saskatchewan and Blaine Higgs of New Brunswick, and their wives, was revealed by NDP Opposition Leader Rachel Notley on Thursday, during consideration of the executive council budget estimates.

According to a flight manifest obtained by the NDP, 16 people were on the flight, which also included Bob McLeod, who was then-premier of the Northwest Territories.



Kenney, as Alberta premier, is also the president of the executive council.

Senior staff for the premiers were also on the flight, which cost $16,764.
The leaders were at the Premier's Pancake Breakfast at the Calgary Stampede. The flight took them to Saskatoon for the annual Council of the Federation meeting of Canada's premiers.

The revelation comes two weeks after an Alberta budget that made cuts to a number of programs, including a hold on indexing benefits paid under the Assured Income for the Severely Handicapped to the cost of living.

Ex-Alberta premier never offered leaders flights


Notley, who was Alberta premier from 2015 until April, said she never offered flights to other provincial leaders while she was in office.



"It never occurred to me that I would need to be the one in the middle of the party going 'Hey, you guys, I got a plane. Hop on,'" she told the legislature's standing committee on Alberta's economic future. "Why did we think that was a thing that we would do?"


Alberta NDP Leader Rachel Notley questioned Jason Kenney, her successor in the premier's office, during a review of the budget estimates for executive council Thursday. (Manuel Carrillos/CBC )

Kenney defended the expense as building alliances with other like-minded premiers in his fight for Alberta pipeline access and fairer treatment by Ottawa. He claimed Alberta was "isolated in the federation" prior to him taking office.

"Ms. Notley, you don't establish relations by sitting here in isolation. You do it by building the relationships," Kenney said.

"I make absolutely no apologies."

Notley wanted to know if Kenney asked the other premiers to pay their share of the flight. Kenney said he wasn't sure.

She noted that the statements that came out of the 2019 Council of the Federation meeting was no stronger than 2015 when every premier signed on to Alberta's Canadian energy strategy.

"I don't think you needed to bribe them with a free flight after your pancake breakfast to do that," Notley said. "That's not building relationships."

I make no apologies for offering Alberta's hospitality to premiers who have our back on a series of issues.
- Alberta Premier Jason Kenney
Kenney said Alberta policy allows the use of charter flights when flight schedules aren't convenient, and they weren't in this case.

"I make no apologies for offering Alberta's hospitality to premiers who have our back on a series of issues," he said.

Kenney told reporters after the meeting that the province offered "logistical support" for the premiers after they did Alberta "a solid" by coming to Calgary.

"Those premiers all came to Western Canada at their own expense. They went back to their home provinces at their own expense," he said. "We asked them to do us a favour as Albertans by showing support for this province at a critical moment, and they did so."

Notley countered that premiers usually pay their own costs when they travel.
"It is not a drop in the bucket for regular folks," she told reporters after the meeting.

"This is just a sense of entitlement that the premier doesn't understand, that Albertans can't support when they are struggling the way they are."

Corrections

  • An earlier version of this story incorrectly reported that Alberta Premier Jason Kenney flew two premiers from Calgary to the Council of the Federation meeting in Saskatoon last July. In fact, he flew three premiers: Scott Moe of Saskatchewan and Blaine Higgs of New Brunswick and Bob McLeod of the Northwest Territories.
    Nov 07, 2019 10:58 AM MT

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Michelle Bellefontaine covers the Alberta legislature in Edmonton. She has also worked as a reporter in the Maritimes and in northern Canada. You can reach her at michelle.bellefontaine @cbc.ca.
 




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Tashya Lynch
Of course he did. It's ok though, his 'base' will justify it for him; Conservatives have a habit of turning a blind eye when it suits them.  


David Amos
Reply to @Tashya Lynch: Methinks nobody is surprised by the revelation of Kenney's nonsense excepting Premier Higgs. That wannabe cowboy plans to prorogue the legislature in NB in a couple of weeks in order to make a bid for a majority mandate. Now Higgy has made national news with one of Harper's main ministers who called Maritimers defeatists. Now Jason Baby has the old job of Rotten Ralphy the dude who wanted us to freeze to death in the dark not that long ago and he is still talking of separation etc N'esy Pas? 





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Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger knows for a fact that Jason Kenney was well aware I hard I had to battle the Harper Government to finally receive my CPP N'esy Pas? 



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/jason-kenney-alberta-pension-plan-canada-wexit-1.5351537



'If Quebec can do it, why not Alberta?': Kenney says 'compelling case' can be made for provincial pension plan

Premier Jason Kenney has recently floated notion of leaving Canada Pension Plan



Joel Dryden · CBC News · Posted: Nov 07, 2019 4:39 PM MT




Premier Jason Kenney said he believes a 'compelling case' can be made to shift funding from the Canada Pension Plan to an Alberta-based alternative. (Scott Neufeld/CBC)

It's an idea from an older era suddenly receiving renewed attention: what if Alberta withdrew from the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) in favour of a provincially-run alternative?

You can trace debate around that idea back to 1991, when a fresh-faced Stephen Harper, then a member of the Reform Party, co-authored what has become known as the "firewall letter" with conservative activist Tom Flanagan and former Progressive Conservative cabinet member Ted Morton, among others.

"Create an Alberta Pension Plan offering the same benefits at lower cost while giving Alberta control over the investment fund," the document reads. "Legislation setting up the Canada Pension Plan permits a province to run its own plan, as Quebec has done from the beginning. If Quebec can do it, why not Alberta?"



Premier Jason Kenney appears to agree with that sentiment. As part of a Facebook Live video stream held a week ago, Kenney responded to a question on that subject.

"I can tell you that will be one of the issues studied by the panel I will be appointing to consult with Albertans on fighting for a fair deal in Canada," Kenney said in the live stream, referring to his plan to gather an expert panel focused on western aggravations with Confederation.

"I believe a compelling case can be made for such a shift [away from the CPP]."
We haven't made any decision. But it's one of the ideas people will be presenting to our panel on fairness within the Confederation.
- Alberta Premier Jason Kenney
But what would that shift look like, and what sort of impact would it have financially on Albertans' pensions — and those held nationwide?

An eye on Quebec

Much like western separation itself, attention is naturally drawn to the closest case study in Quebec.
As part of the CPP statute, provinces are allowed to opt out as long as they provide a program that offers similar retirement and supplementary benefits.



Standing alone from the rest of Canada, Quebec has operated its own pension plan since 1966.

Quebec's pension fund manager — the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec — posted a modest return of 6.1 per cent in the first half of 2019, though it placed blame on that performance due to its investment in plummeting shares of SNC-Lavalin Inc.


Quebec's pension fund manager — the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec — has a sizable stake in SNC-Lavalin. When stocks for the engineering firm plummeted earlier in 2019, so did returns for Caisse. (Paul Chiasson/The Canadian Press)

And though it may seem obvious to compare a potential Alberta pension to Quebec, University of Calgary economics professor Kenneth McKenzie said the two weren't necessarily very comparable.

One of the key issues here is we would be effectively leaving the CPP having been part of it for many years since it was established. Quebec was never part of the CPP. There are many issues that we'd have to deal with in terms of leaving an existing plan that we've been a part of for years.
- Kenneth McKenzie, University of Calgary economics professor
"One of the key issues here is we would be effectively leaving the CPP having been part of it for many years since it was established. Quebec was never part of the CPP," he said. "There are many issues that we'd have to deal with in terms of leaving an existing plan that we've been a part of for years."

The CPP, which is operated by the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board, posted an 8.9 per cent net return for its most recent financial year. The CPP fund had $400.6 billion in assets as of June 30, up from $366.6 billion in the previous year. The investment board declined to comment.

Part of the challenge of leaving the CPP, McKenzie said, is the existence of the CPP fund, which Alberta has contributed to from the start.

"It's a partially-funded plan, in the sense that it has a pay-as-you-go feature. Incoming premiums [are] paid by people working, paid out to people who are retired," he said. "What share of the existing CPP fund would be transferred to Alberta?

"It's not as easy as saying, 'Oh, we'll do it on our own.' There would have to be a negotiation with the federal government in terms of how to allocate the fund."

As Kenney sees it, Albertans are paying more than their fair share, referring to the province's share of the working age population compared with its number of retirees drawing on pension funds.

"Let me just say, with the youngest population in Canada, we are by far the largest net contributors to the CPP," he said.

But McKenzie said that estimation was misleading.

"No matter where you live in Canada, if you earn the same income, you pay exactly the same amount into the CPP, and you get the same benefits when you retire," he said. "That's independent of where you live in Canada."

"But that's exactly what we would expect to happen, because we have a population that is, on average, a little bit younger than everybody else. So that is not a transfer out of Alberta to the rest of Canada, and I think that is the impression that people have."

But were it to happen, what would a post-CPP Alberta look like? In Kenney's vision, the road would lead to the government-owned Alberta Investment Management Corp., or AIMCo.

Centralized pensions


During the Facebook Live, Kenney estimated there are billions of dollars of Albertan premiums under management by the CPP investment board. "If, in principle, we could transfer those assets to be managed securely by AIMCo, that would help AIMCo to be a stronger asset manager."

In Kenney's estimation, with that approximate figure under the management of the Crown corporation, AIMCo would be able to participate in larger deals and invest in a larger class of assets to diversify its investment portfolio.

However, other risks would emerge to complicate the picture. As a part of the CPP, Canadians have their pensions spread out across a number of different industries and economies.

Under a provincial pension system, the funds would be pooled across a much smaller population.
"When you pool over a smaller population, risks go up. [We know] about the economic shocks that hit Alberta, while right now that is smoothed out across the country," McKenzie said.

While a Alberta-based pension might see slightly lower premiums thanks to its lower population, McKenzie said, it would also run the risk of what is known as fiscally-induced migration.

"People would begin to look at [Alberta] to say, 'Oh, it has higher rates,'" he said. "Or maybe it would be the other way around. You get people moving for reasons other than productivity."

And though Kenney has promised any move from the CPP to a provincial pension would be done only after Albertans had been consulted, that wasn't the case for the province's nurses, teachers and workers' compensation employees when it was announced as part of the budget that their pension plans were to be transferred to AIMCo.
AIMCo already administers more than $100 billion in government pensions and other funds, and approximately $17 billion in assets as part of the Alberta Heritage Savings Trust Fund.

Of course, were Albertans' billions in pensions to be transferred to AIMCo, they would be subject to the rates of returns of that company. AIMCo funds achieved a net return of 2.3 per cent in 2018, down from 9.3 per cent a year prior.

A CBC News investigation published in July also revealed that AIMCo had shares worth a total of about $4.8 million as of March 31, in both GEO Group and CoreCivic, two companies linked to for-profit prison companies, including one linked to controversial migrant detention centres in the United States.

AIMCo no longer holds shares in those two companies, a representative said in an email to CBC News.

Temptation to support provincial initiatives


Were AIMCo to take over management of Albertan pensions, there would also be the chance that the Crown corporation would use the funds to support provincial initiatives.

"I would argue that that is not something Alberta should do. The problem is there is a temptation to do that — when you're running your own provincial fund, maybe you're going to invest it in Alberta companies," McKenzie said. "That would be a huge mistake. Any board in charge of Alberta funds should be modelled after the federal CPP fund, which is arm's-length from the rest of government.

"But as soon as you bring these things into the province, I think there's a bigger chance it will be politicized. I think that's also a danger. I'm not saying that will happen, and I think there are safeguards they could put in place."

Kenney has promised to convene the panel focused on Albertans' grievances by the end of this year.

"We haven't made any decision," Kenney said. "But it's one of the ideas people will be presenting to our panel on fairness within the Confederation."






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3132 Comments before I refreshed the page to see the tally at closing
it was 2181 
I revisited a day or so after it closed and it had climbed to 2218 is CBC desperate or what?






Leigh Christensen
I read an article in the Economist magazine some time ago lauding Canada's Pension Plan as one of the best managed. Be careful looking over the fence! 


David Amos
Reply to @Leigh Christensen: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger knows for a fact that Jason Kenney was well aware I hard I had to battle the Harper Government to finally receive my CPP N'esy Pas? 


David Amos 
Reply to @Leigh Christensen: Furthermore Jason Kenney knows for a fact how hard I had to battle Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger's minions in order to get my old pension. I have yet to see my Medicare Card and I pay the hospital bills and doctor's fees while running for a seat in Parliament. Methinks folks can bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee Petrodollars that I will sue the Queen AGAIN N'esy Pas?  


Leigh Christensen
Reply to @David Amos: An APP makes no sense in comparison to CPP. You make no sense either.


David Amos  
Reply to @Leigh Christensen: Methinks you need to look in mirror sometime and ask yourself some serious questions N'esy Pas












John Worley
As an Easterner and Liberal I am not upset at all. Alberta should be able to run there provincial pension plan. The problem is do you trust Kenny to do it properly and make it available when and if you move.


Scott Helderweirt 
Reply to @john worley: I guess the only answer to your question would be "I trust him more than Justin".


John Worley
Reply to @Scott Helderweirt: Justin has nothing to do with the running of the Canada pension. KENNY SEEMS TO WANT TO SET ONE UP-Different


David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @john worley: Methinks you need to check your facts ASAP before you embarrass yourself too much N'esy Pas? 


David Amos 
Content disabled  
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO 





---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:38:20 -0400
Subject: Fwd NWT Fwd I just called the CBA about Justice Richard Bell's 

former partner Raymond Addington's letter to all the politcal leaders before 
the election and was told Vivene Salmon is now the CBA President
To: b.scott@denrochelaw.ca, kelly_mclaughlin@gov.nt.ca,
amanda@dragontoner.ca, Thomas_wallwork@gov.nt.ca,
branch.cbant@gmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, premier@gov.nt.ca



The Northwest Territories Branch
 of the Canadian Bar Association
P.O. Box 1985
Yellowknife, NT X1A 2P5
867-445-5154
Alaina Botham
Branch Administrator
branch.cbant@gmail.com

https://cbant.org/Who-We-Are/Governance/President-Executive

President
Brittany Scott
Denroche & Associates
5107 53 Avenue
Yellowknife, NT X1A 2R2
Tel: 867 92 04151
Email: b.scott@denrochelaw.ca


Vice President
Amanda Thibodeau:
Dragon Toner Law Office
5016-50th Avenue
Yellowknife, NT X1A2N7
Tel: 867 873 6000 Extension: 1004
Email: amanda@dragontoner.ca


Secretary-Treasurer
Thomas Wallwork
Legal Aid Commission of the Northwest Territories
P.O. Box 1320
Yellowknife, NT X1A2L9
Phone 867‑767-9385
Email: Thomas_wallwork@gov.nt.ca


Past President
Kelly McLaughlin:
Director, Legislation Division
PO Box 1320, Stn. Main
Yellowknife, Northwest Territories X1A 2L9
Phone: 867-920-8778
kelly_mclaughlin@gov.nt.ca



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:50:52 -0400
Subject: I just called the CBA about Justice Richard Bell's former
partner Raymond Addington's letter to all the politcal leaders before
the election and was told Vivene Salmon is now the CBC President
To: denise.cameron@cbanb.com, vivene.a.salmon@baml.com,
admin@cbanb.com, comlaw@uottawa.ca
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, dg@bloc.org,
Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, "Bill.Morneau@canada.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca


https://commonlaw.uottawa.ca/en/news/vivene-salmon-llb-2009-named-president-canadian-bar-association


Vivene Salmon
Called to the bar: 2010 (ON)
Bank of America Merrill Lynch
181 Bay St.
Toronto, Ontario M5J 2V8
Phone: 416-369-8774
Email: vivene.a.salmon@baml.com


Canadian Bar Association - New Brunswick Branch

422 York Street
Fredericton, NB E3B 3P7
Phone: (506) 452-7818
Toll Free: 1-866-452-7818
Fax: (506) 459-7959
Contact Us By Email

Executive Director, Denise Cameron
CLE Program Coordinator, Ginette Little
Membership Services Coordinator: Denise Fiset



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:16:38 -0400
Subject: Attn Laura Lee Langley, Karen Hudson and Joanne Munro I just
called all three of your offices to inform you of my next lawsuit
against Nova Scotia
To: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca, Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca,
Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

https://novascotia.ca/exec_council/NSDeputies.html

https://novascotia.ca/exec_council/LLLangley-bio.html

Laura Lee Langley
1700 Granville Street, 5th Floor
One Government Place
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1X5
Phone: (902) 424-8940
Fax: (902) 424-0667
Email: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca

https://novascotia.ca/just/deputy.asp

Karen Hudson Q.C.
1690 Hollis Street, 7th Floor
Joseph Howe Building
Halifax, NS B3J 3J9
Phone: (902) 424-4223
Fax: (902) 424-0510
Email: Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca

https://novascotia.ca/sns/ceo.asp

Joanne Munro:
1505 Barrington Street, 14-South
Maritime Centre
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 3K5
Phone: (902) 424-4089
Fax: (902) 424-5510
Email: Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca

If you don't wish to speak to me before I begin litigation then I
suspect the Integrity Commissioner New Brunswick or the Federal Crown
Counsel can explain the email below and the documents hereto attached
to you and your Premier etc.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
To: coi@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

Good Day Sir

After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
to speak to one of your staff for the first time

Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.

These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
suggested that you study closely.

This is the docket in Federal Court

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T

These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings

Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug

January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015

April 3rd, 2017

https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing


This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All


The only hearing thus far

May 24th, 2017

https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown


This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity

Date: 20151223

Docket: T-1557-15

Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015

PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell

BETWEEN:

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS

Plaintiff

and

HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN

Defendant

ORDER

(Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
December 14, 2015)

The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
in its entirety.

At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
(now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
he stated:

As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
You are your brother’s keeper.

Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
Police.

In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
[1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.


AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
is no order as to costs.

“B. Richard Bell”
Judge


Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.

 I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?

"FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html

83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:

January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate

December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!

Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau?


Vertias Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.

Subject:
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

January 30, 2007

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Mr. David Amos

Dear Mr. Amos:

This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.

Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.

Sincerely,

Honourable Michael B. Murphy
Minister of Health

CM/cb


Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:

Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
"Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not

Dear Mr. Amos,

Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.

As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.

As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.

It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.

 Sincerely,

Warren McBeath, Cpl.
GRC Caledonia RCMP
Traffic Services NCO
Ph: (506) 387-2222
Fax: (506) 387-4622
E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca



Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
Office of the Integrity Commissioner
Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
tel.: 506-457-7890
fax: 506-444-5224
e-mail:coi@gnb.ca




---------- Original message ----------
From: Póstur FOR postur@for.is
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
to be..
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office


---------- Original message ----------
From: Póstur IRR postur@irr.is
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
to be..
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received.

Kveðja / Best regards
Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR postur@for.is
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:43:50 +0000
Subject: Re: After crossing paths with them bigtime in 2004 Davey Baby
Coon and his many Green Meanie and Fake Left cohorts know why I won't
hold my breath waiting for them to act with any semblance of integrity
now N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc??
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office


This is the docket

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T

These are digital recordings of  the last two hearings

Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug

Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015

This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again

Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
Campaign, Rogers TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html

83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
five years after he began his bragging:

January 13, 2015
This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate

December 8, 2014
Why Canada Stood Tall!

Friday, October 3, 2014
Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
Stupid Justin Trudeau

Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.

When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
campaign of 2006.

What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.

What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.

The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.

President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
“moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.

One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
“world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
are not.

Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
“humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”

In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
“the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.

My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.

Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.

Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now

From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
alive
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>,
dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
<smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
susan@blueskystrategygroup.com, Don@blueskystrategygroup.com,
eugene@blueskystrategygroup.com, americas@aljazeera.net
Cc: Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca, terry.seguin@cbc.ca, acampbell@ctv.ca,
whistleblower@ctv.ca

I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact  that  your
old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
interesting though

http://www.blueskystrategygroup.com/index.php/team/don-newman/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/media/story/2010/05/04/al-jazeera-english-launch.html

Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right

The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
shy political animal

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

Enjoy Mr Weston
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/2011/05/15/weston-iraq-invasion-wikileaks.html

"But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
including a Canadian general.

That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."

http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/06/canada-and-united-states.html

"I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
"veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
into the US policy.

At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
were deployed WMD.

Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
(and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.

There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
are to met before US troop can redeploy?  Prime Minister Jean Chretien
and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
George W Bush administration was onerous

American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
....not necessarily in that order. "

You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
Adams? of the CSE within the DND?

http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome/Pages/ContactUSSOCOM.aspx


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:20:29 -0400
Subject: Hey before you Red Coats swear an Oath to the Queen and the
42nd Parliament begins perhaps the turncoat Big Bad Billy Casey the
Yankee carpetbagger David Lutz or some Boyz from NB should explain
this lawsuit to you real slow.
To: alaina@alainalockhart.ca, david@lutz.nb.ca,
daniel.mchardie@cbc.ca, info@waynelong.ca,
info@ginettepetitpastaylor.ca, rarseno@nbnet.nb.ca,
matt@mattdecourcey.ca, info@sergecormier.ca, pat@patfinnigan.ca,
tj@tjharvey.ca, karen.ludwig.nb@gmail.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, Frank.McKenna@td.com,
info@votezsteve.ca, info@billcasey.ca, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
dominic.leblanc.a1@parl.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, jacques_poitras@cbc.ca,
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca

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