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"New Brunswick-born Steve Joordens, a psychology professor at the University of Toronto says 'snitch lines' can do damage, particularly in small town"
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-snitch-line-psychology-1.5539919
'Emotional hangover' predicted when busy snitch line's days are over
Special line hears thousands of complaints, and few are about actual violations of order
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 23, 2020 7:00 AM AT
New Brunswick-born Steve Joordens, a psychology professor at the University of Toronto Scarborough, says 'snitch lines' can do damage, particularly in small towns. (Submitted by Steve Joordens)
After its first month, New Brunswick's COVID-19 "snitch line" has answered more than 8,000 "non-health-related" calls, which have resulted in a total of 29 tickets being issued for violating the province's state of emergency order.
It's also served a valuable purpose in putting more eyes in the community to ensure people are following the guidelines laid out by the province to prevent the spread of COVID-19, Premier Blaine Higgs says.
The calls were mostly about "social distancing practices or, let's say, mass gatherings or gatherings just of numbers outside of family," he said at a regular briefing on COVID-19.
But of thousands of calls, most do not describe or lead to the discovery of violations of the emergency order.
Small number require enforcement
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government spokesperson said officials have received a wide variety of
non-compliance complaints, including the following examples:
- People letting their children go to the playground.
- A business not having anyone at the door advising of self-distancing or limiting the number of customers in the store.
- A neighbour having company over.
- People hanging out at an apartment having a party.
Psychology professor Steve Joordens says the harm caused by such tip lines outweighs the benefits.
"Usually the government is pushing pro-social initiatives all the time and fighting anti-social ones," said Joordens, of the University of Toronto Scarborough.
"But a snitch line is kind of anti-social. It's anti-social for a justified reason, but it's turning people against one another."
And it may not be having the desired effect, said Joordens, who grew up in Lincoln, just south of Fredericton.
Turning people against each other
"It's something that you wouldn't expect a government to get in the business of … obviously someone feels that there's a greater good that comes with this, but it's a dangerous initiative to be having — especially in a small-town place like New Brunswick. Unless you're in Fredericton, Saint John or Moncton, everybody knows everybody."He fears that people will hold grudges against the person who reported them — or worse, falsely accuse someone of doing so.
"It's much more personal in a small town, and it can lead to grudges and things that would carry over," he said.
New Brunswick's COVID-19 information line, 1-844-462-8387, has been in operation for a month and takes reports about people violating the emergency declaration order. (Andrew Berezovsky/Shutterstock)
While the caller might believe they're doing the right thing in the interest of fighting COVID-19, Joordens said motivation usually doesn't matter to the person getting in trouble. He said it's human nature to want to blame "the snitch," and he worries that the lingering effects of these tip lines will create "an emotional hangover."
"That's not something that goes away very easily. That emotional hangover can last for a while."
Joordens said the whole idea of snitch lines is reminiscent of the Second World War. His parents lived in Nazi-occupied Holland, where sympathizers frequently reported fellow countrymen to the Germans, so he understands the baggage that some people may carry.
"For a lot of people, it could bring back these nasty ideas."
Other lines were over-burdened
The province set up the line last month to ease the burden on 811 and 911. It was designed to take questions about COVID-19 and to let people report those who appeared to be violating the emergency declaration order."Depending on the nature of the call, a caller may be directed to resources like Business New Brunswick's Business Navigator or to WorkSafeNB," said Berry.
"Information about non-compliance complaints are referred to law enforcement for further review."
As of Monday, 29 tickets had been issued for violating the state of emergency order, he said.
At a briefing, Higgs was asked about one caller to the line who said nothing was done about her neighbour — despite making three calls.
When asked to explain the followup process, Higgs said, "Well, there's certainly a followup, or why would we ever put it in place?"
He invited the woman to contact him directly by email and promised to follow up on her case.
"I appreciate the individual making a concerted effort in this case here ... but it's more than a spreadsheet."
While the information does help identify trends in the community, Higgs said complaints are addressed.
A snitch line is kind of anti-social ... for a justified reason, but it's turning people against one another.- Psychology professor Steve Joordens
Meanwhile, police forces around the province are also receiving tips about non-compliance and are following up on them.
While she wouldn't cite numbers, RCMP Cpl. Jullie Rogers-Marsh said the force has issued tickets "where appropriate" but is focusing on education.
She said "tickets are only one part of the enforcement effort" and don't reflect the overall effort of officers.
On Monday night, the commanding officer of the Codiac RCMP told Moncton city council that the force has been 'inundated' with calls by people reporting others not obeying rules to physically distance or to self-isolate after entering the province.
Supt. Tom Critchlow said Codiac RCMP have opened 800 files as a result of the calls. When contacted on Tuesday about the nature of the calls, Critchlow declined comment.
Saint John Police Force spokesperson Jim Hennessy said officers have received nearly 100 complaints about people not physical distancing and similar breaches of the emergency order.
He declined to say whether the force had issued any tickets, saying, "Education is going to be key and we want to be a part of that."
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David Amos
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"New Brunswick-born Steve Joordens, a psychology professor at the University of Toronto Scarborough, says 'snitch lines' can do damage, particularly in small towns."
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @David Amos:
After all what could someone with a PhD in psychology possibly know
about the psychology of human behaviour?
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: Joordens is a Maritimer However methinks there is not a
shrink on the planet who understands Maritimers because obviously we
don't even understand each other N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
Mcallister
Reply to @David Amos: Nor does there exist enough shrinks on the planet to come close to accomplishing the task.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: Methinks Higgy and everybody else knows that in 2008 the
RCMP arrested me because of false allegations were made against me by
his buddies Urquhart and Thompson. When i demanded disclosure and the
right to meet a judge ASAP as per my legal rights the cops took me to
the DECH and tried to convince the doctors I was crazy. After three cops
and two security dudes assaulted and falsely imprisoned me I proceeded
to give two immigrant shrinks anxiety attacks within their own Mental
Wardand I was let go. Trust that the lawyers TJ Burke, Mikey Murphy and
Kelly Lamarock would agree that I am not smart enough to make this
story up Furthermore I have a signed document proving it that I
displayed on YouTube not long after it happened and one the very same
cops turned up within the hour and proudly admitted that he had
assaulted me N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: It too bad my reply to you went "Poof" but I am not surprised either
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Snitchers are frowned upon in small communities. A very bad idea!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks even French men don't like snitches N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: That's what they tell me!
James Smith
Do the REICH thing everyone! Once we’re all on universal basic income, snitching on your neighbours will be the only way to be granted 20% additional rations per month from Big Brother! Don’t forget to ask “how high?” every time they tell you to “jump”, comrades! With that I bid you Auf Wiedersehen!
David Amos
Reply to @James Smith: Well put
Tyler Durden
Time to hack and leak the snitch line logs. Let's see who the busy bodies are.
David Amos
Reply to @Tyler Durden: Snitch on the snitches? Oh My MY who would do such a devious thing?
Bo Johnson
Snitches get stitches.
Ian Scott
Reply to @Bo Johnson: And Lord of the Flies without some rules and common sense and community value.
Tyler Durden
Reply to @Ian Scott:
Then step up to the phone line and make sure you remember that your name
is on the record and those things don't stay sealed.
David Amos
Reply to @Ian Scott: Methinks you must be a cop N'esy Pas?
Steve Ryan
What a huge waste of resources and money, something NB doesn't have much of. And all this for 29 tickets that may or may not be paid.
Someone didn't put a lot of thought into this.
David Amos
Reply to @Steve Ryan: Good point
Hank Hanrattey
What will these Liberal nervous ninnies have to complain about next, or will they simply suffer withdrawl from losing their perceived power over their fellow Canadians?
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Hank Hanrattey: I wonder how you know how they vote..
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Because you brag too much
Hank Hanrattey
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: Simple, its right down to the core of left vs right. Right
wants to be free form Government, and nervous ninny interference, live
free and enjoy life...Left wants to be involved and control everyone
around them and their lives. Simple!
Hank Hanrattey
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: To elaborate, people on the Right, enjoy life and respect
all those around them, the Left hates freedom and are miserable with
their own existence, so controlling and dictating to others is their
only form of joy in their lives.
Graeme Duke-Gibbs
I honestly think it was more about keeping people apart than actually arresting or fining people. If it proves to have been effective then good. Better than some countries shoot to kill order!!!
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Graeme Duke-Gibbs: Lesser of two evils is not a way forward
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Evil never is
Derek Grant
Would love to the see the regional, demographic breakdown of those 8000+ calls!?
David Amos
Reply to @Derek Grant: Me Too
Fred Brewer
The 29 offenders if not ticketed could have each infected 10 others, so now we have 290 infected, and if each of them infects 10 more we have 2,900 infected people. I would take the "emotional hangover" rather than have innocent people get sick and possibly die. Rules are to be followed by all. A few rotten apples can spoil the entire barrel and that is what snitchers are trying to avoid. While 29 may seem like a low number of tickets, I have to wonder how many were let off with just a warning. Maybe hundreds of people were educated in this manner. I say bravo to the snitchers and the enforcers. We should not need them, but sadly we do.
Billy Joe
Mcallister
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: The end justifies the means is exactly the thinking employed by
Lenin and Stalin. Ergo, if a goal is viewed by those in power as
morally or ethically important enough, any method of getting it is
acceptable. Sorry, in my opinion, this thinking is not conducive to the
advancement of freedom and well being of the individual.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: I concur
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: Comparing covid snitch lines to brutal dictators like Stalin
and Lenin is offensive in my opinion.
Billy Joe
Mcallister
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Nonetheless the thinking is the same. Only the degree is different.
Tanner
Smith
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: I'm not following you. So you're saying the 29 offenders were
tested and all of them came back positive? What about the 7971 others?
Is it 1 snitch to a 1000, 500, 100, or 1 to 1? You seem to know a lot
about it please clarify?
David Amos
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Reply to @Tanner Smith: Methinks many would agree that old Fred don't know nothing because his head is just a bowl of stuffing N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Tanner Smith: Methinks many would agree that old Fred don't know nothing because his head is just a bowl of stuffing N'esy Pas?
Jason Inness
Reply to @Fred Brewer: That assumes that all those ticketed were infected. Also, if the government is going to preach "We are in this together", they should not even create such a divisive process. Finally, 29 tickets out of 8,000 seems to be a tiny improvement for such a divisive method (and that assumes ALL of the tickets came from the snitch line).
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Jason Inness: Yes it assumes a worst-case scenario but are you trying to justify allowing even one of those 29 to go around blatantly spreading Covid-19 to other innocent people?
Again, the point is that this is about two things, educating the 8,000 who appeared not to be following the rules, and ticketing the worst offenders as a deterrent. Society needs deterrents in order to function. If you saw your neighbour stealing an ATV out of your shed, would you "snitch" on him? If your neighbour assaulted you, would you "snitch" on him? Spreading covid is an assault that can kill. It has to be taken seriously. Our government has passed laws and those laws need to be obeyed in regards to covid.
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: What planet are you really from???
Errol Willis
I can practice social distancing in my home with my son and his wife just as easily as I can in the grocery store, perhaps even better, as I know my home is sanitized before and after. And I will continue to do so.
This "snitch" line is NOT a good idea. Especially now, with people having lots of free time on their hands and nothing to fill their nosy minds. I am very disappointed that the government is involved in this kind of activity
David Amos
Reply to @Errol Willis: Methinks you are not alone in that thinking N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Errol Willis: Snitchers snitch over nothing, just because they love to snitch. Most times they squeal for no reason. And most have no life, therefore they stick their nose in other's.
Fern Robichaud
Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend..... Where I live 1 out of every 4 residents is a snitch, an informant. Taxi driver told me "this city is full of rats". It's the lowest form of human activity known to man, it destroys people, families, leads to oppression and you can forget about your privacy, its gone, the internet has made snitching a cottage industry.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Fern
Robichaud: Be careful, I was told on this CBC page yesterday when I was
speaking out against snitches that my kind of thinking is "dangerous".
8000 calls - wow! NB's very own "army of spies."
David Peters
Reply to @Fern Robichaud:
That's what makes this whole virus scare look like a massive social experiment.
That's what makes this whole virus scare look like a massive social experiment.
David Amos
Reply to @Fern Robichaud: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: Methinks Higgy knows he has an army of chickens in his
Police State and all that is required is just one fox to run them all
off N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Have you stopped to consider that perhaps one of the reasons, NB is doing so well in its fight against covid is because of policies like the snitch line?
Rick Sanchez
Ahh the snitch line. Turn in your neighbour for not being a good party member. Maybe have them sent to the gulag for a few years for some re-education.
Chris McNee
Reply to @Rick Sanchez: “Hangings to good for the likes of them” yelled the mob :)
David Amos
Reply to @Chris McNee: And your point is?
Chris McNee
Reply to @David Amos: I’m adding sarcasm, didn’t you see my smiley emoji? Well didn’t you??? :)
David Amos
Reply to @Chris McNee: Why is it that I am not laughing? Could it because the cops want to arrest me?
David Amos
Reply to @Chris
McNee: Methinks Higgy and everybody else knows that in 2008 the RCMP
arrested me because of false allegations were made against me by his
buddies Urquhart and Thompson N'esy Pas?
Chris
McNee
Reply to @David Amos:
I don’t know you, never met you. All I know from life is their is
always 3 sides of any conflict. 1- your side, 2- their side and 3-the
truth. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a
different outcome. If what your saying is true, get proper council and
pursue a more organized legal team. Otherwise nothing will change.
David Amos
Reply to @Chris
McNee: Then why make fun of me? Trust that the lawyers TJ Burke, Mikey
Murphy and Kelly Lamarock would agree that I am not smart enough to make
this story up
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Chris
McNee: Methinks if DND dudes don't think I am telling the truth then
they should ask Jonathan Vance about statement 83 of Federal Court File
No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Chris McNee: Methinks you forgot that I have a long memory N'esy Pas?
"Thank you for taking the time to review the most flexible and well rounded person you might ever meet.I bring specialized skills that have been developed and proven domestically"
"Thank you for taking the time to review the most flexible and well rounded person you might ever meet.I bring specialized skills that have been developed and proven domestically"
David Amos
Reply to @Chris
McNee: You bragged of RMC, National Security and Intelligence etc Hence
you had lots of time to check my work as you requested CORRECT?
Tyler
Durden
Reply to @David Amos: He gave up as soon as you brought fact into it.
Chris
McNee
Reply to @Tyler
Durden: I was napping :) I’m a retired army guy who was googled by a
paranoid Mr Amos and low and behold he found my old resume on
LinkedIn...
Chris
McNee
Reply to @David Amos:
I never bragged about RMC, I quoted that I had received some of my
education on a resume on LinkedIn, nothing more. I have worked for John
Vance and I always liked him. I’ve never googled you and couldn’t be
bothered. I do feel bad for you though.
Roger Markus-Laundry
Reply to @Chris
McNee: oh no. You replied to Mr. Amos.... he’s like a keyboard cold
sore. He keeps showing up, when no one asked or wanted him and standing
on his filibustering soap box. Definitely google him! Great read
especially if you want to fall asleep.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I'd agree they probably don't think you're very smart but it has little to do with your tall tales
David Amos
Reply to @Tyler Durden: Methinks statement 83 of Federal Court File No T-1557-15 ran him off N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Roger Markus-Laundry: Methinks you must have read enough to say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP for me N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Chris McNee:
Methinks while you siding with the people attacking me in support of
Higgy et al you must have recalled how you bragged to me about your
pension months ago CORRECT? Perhaps for the benefit of all the other
folks who are out of work and concerned about their pensions and
investments these days you people should ask Higgy and the RCMP if their
Fed friends south of the 49th have found the missing transcripts and
webcasts of this US Banking Committee hearing YET N'esy Pas?
Full Committee Hearing
Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the
Mutual Fund Industry
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003
Time: 02:00 PM
Topic
The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a
series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and
Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.”
Witnesses
Mr. Stephen M. Cutler
Director - Division of Enforcement
Securities and Exchange Commission
Mr. Robert Glauber
Chairman and CEO
National Association of Securities Dealers
Eliot Spitzer
Attorney General
State of New York
Full Committee Hearing
Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the
Mutual Fund Industry
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003
Time: 02:00 PM
Topic
The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a
series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and
Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.”
Witnesses
Mr. Stephen M. Cutler
Director - Division of Enforcement
Securities and Exchange Commission
Mr. Robert Glauber
Chairman and CEO
National Association of Securities Dealers
Eliot Spitzer
Attorney General
State of New York
https://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/psych/person/steve-joordens
Steve Joordens
Research Interests:
Consciousness, memory, attention
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks Timmy Baby Biddiscombe and all his cop and liberal buddies know that any self respecting virus would want nothing to do with Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/04/codiac-regional-rcmp-inundated-by.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-rcmp-council-pandemic-1.5539079
Codiac Regional RCMP 'inundated' by pandemic callers
Police say they've opened about 800 files based on calls about people not following health rules
CBC News · Posted: Apr 21, 2020 8:00 AM AT
Codiac Regional RCMP Supt. Tom Critchlow says the force has been 'inundated' with calls related to the pandemic. (Kate Letterick/CBC News )
Codiac Regional RCMP's commanding officer says the force has been 'inundated' with calls by people reporting others not obeying rules to physically distance or to self-isolate after entering the province.
Supt. Tom Critchlow, who commands the force policing Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview, said Codiac RCMP have opened 800 files as a result of the calls.
He said the force increased staff capacity to answer the calls to its non-urgent phone line because of the pandemic. But, he said the calls have been slowing in recent days.
"It's still a hot-button issue for us, but we're dealing with it," Critchlow said.
The province has set up an "information line" to report people believed to be violating the emergency declaration order, a line that's separate from the police numbers.
More patrols
Critchlow outlined the figures Monday during a Moncton city council meeting held by video conference.Members of council noted seeing an increased police presence in the community.
Critchlow said more RCMP members are available because the pandemic means no one is away for training or on leave.
He said Codiac has a "large presence" patrolling to check on people and businesses.
We've had no issues, everyone is very co-operative and so I can report that's going quite well.- Tom Critchlow, Codiac RCMP
He also said the force is checking on around 22 people in the three communities who have returned to Canada and must self-isolate because the federal government invoked the Quarantine Act.
That means police open a file and check in on each person to ensure they're complying with self-isolating rules over a two-week period. As well, Critchlow said they check to make sure the people are OK.
"We've had no issues, everyone is very co-operative and so I can report that's going quite well," Critchlow said.
She asked the RCMP to try to do more to communicate that they are acting to protect people's health.
"We want to be protective, not being the strong-arm of the law - only reacting when we have to," Critchlow said.
As of Monday, the total number of people who have tested positive for COVID-19 in New Brunswick stood at 118. It was the sixth day within the last 10 days that the province announced no new cases.
Of the 118 people, 98 have recovered.
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David Amos
"Snitches get Stitches"
Methinks as a Proud Maritimer born and bred in Dorchester NB I suspect many folks even in Fat Fred City will agree with an expression that we we all raised to N'esy Pas?
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @David Amos: I'd like to see you try and give someone stitches for snitching. I'd pay $59.99 pay per view for that.
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Methinks that was spoken like a true SANB dude who is no doubt
related to Chucky and Dominic Leblanc N'esy Pas?
john smith
the stasi was quite effective in this manner as is the ccp
David Amos
Reply to @john smith: Define effective
John Smith
Paulette Theriault is correct, the RCMP have made New Brunswick a police state.
David Amos
Reply to @John Smith: YUP
Johnny Almar
It is NOT snitching. This is to single out those who refuse to obey the rules to keep the pandemic in check and save lives. I have called and will continue to do so. I have also submitted photo and video evidence. It is our civic duty to report these people.
I know that the government is acting on it because I watched the violators get paid a visit by Public Safety. When you invite people to your summer cottage to have a weekend bash, you get reported.
Anyone who looks at this as snitching is part of the problem.
David Amos
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Reply to @Johnny Almar: So says a snitch
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Johnny Almar:
If it looks like snitching, smells like snitching, and tastes like snitching, guess what, it's snitching.
If it looks like snitching, smells like snitching, and tastes like snitching, guess what, it's snitching.
John Smith
Reply to @Johnny
Almar: Just trying to ease his guilty conscience. In my day, someone
like that would be taken out to the back of the barn and their dialing
finger would not work for a little while.
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Methinks you never left Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP
Dan Stewart
Reply to @John Smith: Goodnight thing your day is long gone.
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Methinks you talk just like an ex cop who used to rely on snitches to do his job N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks we should same the same to you N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: So says a snitch
Billy Joe Mcallister
Maybe it has a lot to do with when and where you grew up. I was born in 1954. And all my years growing up snitching was frowned upon by everyone. Beginning in grade one if someone "tattled" on somebody and teacher thought it frivolous which 99% of he time it was. The informant would be punished as well as or maybe even instead of the supposed perpetrator.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: This whoe "snitch culture" began again with earnest
following 9/11/2001 although that was mostly in America but now it seems
some Canadian political leaders would like Canadian society to behave
this way too.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: I've seen many case of what could be interpreted as
violations of our " state of emergency protocols" but I think myself and
my family are better served with minding our own affairs. What goes
around does come around and I will never participate in a "snitch
culture"
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Billy Joe
Mcallister: Methinks you should let Bobby Gentry know that you drifted
up here after you jumped off that bridge years ago so that she will quit
crying over you N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: From my recollection, it depended which of the snitcher or perpetrator was the teacher's pet.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Politics is everywhere ...isn't? even in the first grade.
Robert
Brannen
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister:
I was born in the 1940s and don't recall peers doing much that might tempt another to "snitch", it seems that kids were brought up with enough of a sense of discipline to follow the rules. It seems that might have changed by the 1960s.
I was born in the 1940s and don't recall peers doing much that might tempt another to "snitch", it seems that kids were brought up with enough of a sense of discipline to follow the rules. It seems that might have changed by the 1960s.
Billy Joe Mcallister
Reply to @Robert
Brannen: Like I said It probably has a lot to do with where and when you
grew up. But I agree with what you said above and I would add that I
had always just assumed/trusted that everybody knew better and for the
most part they did. I remember one time a girl made the accusation that
somebody had stolen her watch. They stopped classes and questioned
everyone. turns out she had left it in the lavatory and was found
exactly where she left it. But it was rare for anybody to do anything
seriously wrong.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: There is nothing frivolous and your analogy is off the mark.
Your attitude is dangerous. It is your line of thinking that can get people sick or dead.
Your attitude is dangerous. It is your line of thinking that can get people sick or dead.
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: When you jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge you must of hit your head very hard.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: C'est Vrai However methinks all the snitches are Higgy's buddies N'esy Pas?
Justin Gunther
Our culture is garbage now. Canada used to be a good place to live.
John Price
Reply to @Justin Gunther: You're welcomed to move to the US where the culture is so much better....lol
David Amos
Reply to @John Price: Not funny
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks everybody knows that Higgy's Police State will never stand the test of time N'esy Pas?
Joseph O'brien
Give us a reward for whistleblowing on violaters as well as immunity from this virus.
David Amos
Reply to @Joseph O'brien: Methinks you must belong to the Green Party N'esy Pas?
Yves Savoie
Reply to @Joseph O'brien: A so called whistleblower in Bathurst got a lad killed!!! go figure!
Jeff LeBlanc
I'm going to the beach today to wakeboard, wondering if I'll run into any crowds not following social distancing? It may be April but it's also nice out. I'll let y'all know.
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc:Wakeboard? Don't you need a boat for that? Never had them when I
was growing up, only waterskis. Hope your wind isn't blowing on-shore.
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Say hey to the RCMP for me will ya?
Jeff
LeBlanc
Reply to @Ben
Haroldson: you can use a boat or a kite. Today I will be using a kite so
technically I am kite boarding but the board is the same.
Jeff
LeBlanc
Reply to @David Amos:
nothing illegal about what I'm doing but keep reaching for that
rainbow. You'll get the acceptance you so desperately crave one day.
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Methinks you know why I am honoured by the fact that you SANB dudes hate me N'esy Pas?
Dan
Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks you confuse hate with just not really caring.
David Amos
Reply to @Dan
Stewart: Methinks I should not be surprised by such reasoning coming
from a member of the Stewart Clan N'esy Pas?
Norman Albert Snr
With the second lowest infect count in the country it is pretty obvious that not even the virus wants to come here. This too will pass.
David Amos
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Methinks any self respecting virus would want nothing to do with Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
Fern Robichaud
The World is coming to an end after all
David Amos
Reply to @Fern Robichaud: So says Higgy et al
Fern Robichaud
Reply to @David Amos:
Higgy turned over all of his suthority to the task force, he aint worth
much right now, simply looking after the coffee pot from we saw in
Jacques Poitras' report.
David Amos
Reply to @Fern Robichaud: YUP Methinks the Green Meanies rule the roost now N'esy Pas?
harry tage
You'd think this was calculus, the way people have so much difficulty understanding what 'seem' to be pretty simple rules.
David Amos
Reply to @harry tage: How does your math explain the fact that judges are allowed to ignore the rules???
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-canada-to-temporarily-suspend-flights-to-u-s-1.5539796
Air Canada to temporarily suspend flights to U.S.
Airline plans to resume service when Canada-U.S. border restrictions are lifted
CBC News · Posted: Apr 21, 2020 1:51 PM ET
Air Canada had significantly reduced service between Canada and the U.S. after border restrictions were put in place March 21. (Jeff McIntosh/The Canadian Press)
Air Canada has announced it is suspending service to the United States after Canada and the U.S. agreed to extend restrictions on cross-border travel for another 30 days because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
The airline said Tuesday its last commercial flights between Canada and the U.S. will be on April 26. It plans to resume service May 22, unless government restrictions are extended again. It will waive change fees for affected customers.
Non-essential travel between Canada and the U.S. was banned as of March 21, though the border has remained open for trade and commerce, with exemptions also granted for emergency response and public health purposes.
The original border restrictions put in place a month ago were set to expire today, but the new agreement extends it until mid-May.
WestJet has also extended its suspension of all transborder and international flights. It stopped flying those routes as of March 22 for 30 days. As of yesterday, it extended the service suspension until June 4.
WestJet also announced that it is cutting 600 flights per day from its domestic schedule between May 5 and June 4, including the temporary cancellation of routes between some Canadian cities.
We are making changes to our domestic schedule from May 5 through June 4 to address reduced demand. While some city pairings have been temporarily removed, we continue to serve the 38 Canadian airports to which we currently operate. Details here — https://ms.spr.ly/6017T5FkR
1:09 PM - Apr 20, 2020
Air Transat flights have been suspended until May 31 and Porter Airlines grounded all flights until June 1. Sunwing also suspended all commercial flights but has yet to announce a return-to-service date.
Air Canada said it has reduced its schedule by 90 per cent due to COVID-19, but it had continued service to 11 U.S. destinations to help repatriate Canadians over the past month.
- Air Canada to rehire 16,500 laid-off workers with help of federal wage subsidy
- Air passengers will be required to wear non-medical masks starting April 20
454 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.Al Anderson
Oh well, their workers continue to be paid to do nothing...I guess that's what impoortant...
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Al Anderson: Yes. Same for all industries affected by CV19.
Peter Noway
Reply to @Al Anderson: Same as if they were running.
Allan Campbell
Reply to @Al Anderson:
Not near as much money as going to corps....point?
Not near as much money as going to corps....point?
David Amos
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: Nope Methinks your cop buddies in New Brunswick are having a
Hay Day in Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
Nicholas Jones
This is happening just now? A little bit late Air Canada.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Cargo flights bringing in relief supplies that are short in Canada.
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Not if they are sent to China to pick up critical supplies.
Frank G.
Castiglione
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: The news story on CBC.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Frank G.
Castiglione: Apr 6, 2020 - Medical supplies from China are unloaded from
a Boeing 747 cargo aircraft at ... China sent Canada 'millions' of
masks to fight COVID-19.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Frank G. Castiglione: The one I posted?
Frank G.
Castiglione
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: No, the one about the empty planes returning from china.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: the article says "some".
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Thanks for the newsflash. Who ever said all?
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas
Jones: "A cargo jet chartered by the federal government to deliver badly
needed personal protective equipment (PPE) from China was forced to
leave the airport in Shanghai without the shipment on board.
The precious cargo of pandemic supplies wasn't lost or bought out by another country. Instead, the government says delays caused by a spike in cargo flights meant the delivery trucks couldn't get to the Canadian plane on time, forcing it to return to Canada without its load.
"This occurred due to on-the-ground congestion caused by a significant surge in cargo flights out of terminals at the Shanghai Airport. As a result, the intended cargo was unable to get to the plane before its required takeoff time," said Emily Harris, director of communications at Public Services and Procurement Canada.
The cargo still belongs to Canada; it's in a leased warehouse in Shanghai and the government says it will be delivered on a later flight. In addition to the empty federal plane, a cargo jet leased by an unidentified provincial government also flew back to Canada yesterday without its cargo for the same reason."
The precious cargo of pandemic supplies wasn't lost or bought out by another country. Instead, the government says delays caused by a spike in cargo flights meant the delivery trucks couldn't get to the Canadian plane on time, forcing it to return to Canada without its load.
"This occurred due to on-the-ground congestion caused by a significant surge in cargo flights out of terminals at the Shanghai Airport. As a result, the intended cargo was unable to get to the plane before its required takeoff time," said Emily Harris, director of communications at Public Services and Procurement Canada.
The cargo still belongs to Canada; it's in a leased warehouse in Shanghai and the government says it will be delivered on a later flight. In addition to the empty federal plane, a cargo jet leased by an unidentified provincial government also flew back to Canada yesterday without its cargo for the same reason."
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: I just posted the reason..
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas
Jones: "This occurred due to on-the-ground congestion caused by a
significant surge in cargo flights out of terminals at the Shanghai
Airport. As a result, the intended cargo was unable to get to the plane
before its required takeoff time," said Emily Harris, director of
communications at Public Services and Procurement Canada."
Richard Cheech
Reply to @Nicholas
Jones: Yes, a bit late for Air Canada and a lot later for MAGA USA. How
did it get so bad, this murican Virus. How long has this been brewing
and for how long have they been hiding it?
Nicholas
Jones
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: Thanks again for the newsflash about the article I read. I
guess they just couldn't be bothered to wait.
Nicholas
Jones
Reply to @Richard Cheech: Exactly.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas
Jones: Yes..why hold up all needed supplies just because one shipment of
ours was late getting to the airport?
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Seems you wanted that plane to take off empty when Canadian officials didnt.
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: I suggest you read the article carefully next time. It
didn't say one shipment, that would imply a skid or a container. The
article clearly stated "without the shipment on board", not without a
shipment on board. If the plane stayed it would not of held up "all
needed supplies". Please read the article carefully before posting next
time. Oh yes, not just "one shipment", two planes came back empty.
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Huh?
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas
Jones: "This occurred due to on-the-ground congestion caused by a
significant surge in cargo flights out of terminals at the Shanghai
Airport. As a result, the intended cargo was unable to get to the plane
before its required takeoff time," said Emily Harris, director of
communications at Public Services and Procurement Canada
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Without the shipment does not mean without any shipments.
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Quit repeating yourself. You've lost credibility by not reading the article properly.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Seems I have to repeat myself for you..several times.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Did you read what I posted?
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: And you seem to enjoy repeating yourself. An did I read
what you posted? Yes, the same thing over and over again several times.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: "As a result, the intended cargo was unable to get to THE plane before its requi.."
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Then why dont you understand it ?
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I do. It's you who cannot grasp plural vs singular.
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: "the intended cargo was unable to get to THE plane before
its requi.." One plane, singular. Try again ;)
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: "the intended cargo was unable to get to THE plane before its requi.." One plane, singular.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: google: ad hominem pls
Stephen George
Reply to @Nicholas Jones:
Yep that's me and proud of that underachievement.
Yep that's me and proud of that underachievement.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Cargo is quite countable actually.
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Stephen George: Coming form someone using black and white. Pot, kettle, black.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: I ask again..what makes you think cargo is uncountable?
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: what nonsense. Cargo is entirely countable and verifiable as well.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: what makes you think cargo is uncountable?
Nicholas Jones
Reply to @Stephen George: Yup.
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: I read quite well actually..what are taking issue with specifically pls?
Tim
Biddiscombe
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: what makes you think cargo is uncountable
Stephen George
Content disabled
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe:
Scared them away.
Scared them away.
Stephen George
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe:
Just had 3 posts to NJ that were deleted. Now I wonder who......
Just had 3 posts to NJ that were deleted. Now I wonder who......
Stephen George
Reply to @Stephen George:
They have a very, very thin skin.
They have a very, very thin skin.
Jim
Vickers
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Actually 2
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Stephen
George: Methinks somebody didn't like what Timmmy was saying to me
elsewhere today why else would his comments go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Jim
Vickers: Methinks Biddiscombe should ask if you are related to New
Brunswick's wannabe Premier He is a fan of political ex cops N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: Methinks your comments in support of cops and Higgys Police
State are uncountable when they go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Nicholas Jones: Methinks Timmy is just messing with you for no reason folks will ever understand N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Tim
Biddiscombe: FYI I don't remember you from our days at FHS in Fat Fred
City but rest assured I will be asking around
Robin Wheel
I see that flights TO the USA will be suspended. Does anyone know about flights FROM the USA?
Keith Newcastle
Reply to @Robin
Wheel: Check out the arrivals for any major Canadian airport for the
answer (hint: other airlines are still flying to Canada from the US,
Asia, Europe and the middle east.
Robin Wheel
Reply to @Keith Newcastle: Bingo! Flight radar is rather shocking! Why no story on that important info?!
Jim
Rockfort (Spaceman )
Reply to @Robin Wheel:
Read the third paragraph of the story.
Read the third paragraph of the story.
Robin Wheel
Reply to @Jim
Rockfort (Spaceman ): I will, but only if you promise to go to the
flight radar site, enter Vancouver, and look at how many international
flights are coming in
Jim
Rockfort (Spaceman )
Reply to @Robin Wheel:
I tried to do that but couldn't find it. Do you have a link ?
I tried to do that but couldn't find it. Do you have a link ?
Jim
Rockfort (Spaceman )
Reply to @Robin Wheel:
Ok I found that site. Don't see very many international flights coming into Vancouver. There are still domestic flights, and remember, airlines still move goods and cargo. Every aircraft isn't a passenger aircraft.
Ok I found that site. Don't see very many international flights coming into Vancouver. There are still domestic flights, and remember, airlines still move goods and cargo. Every aircraft isn't a passenger aircraft.
Robin
Wheel
Reply to @Jim
Rockfort (Spaceman ): well thanks for looking! I think it’s clear which
flights are cargo. But count the flights arriving on Wednesday... not
all can be essential. And on the weekend the number of flights rise
sharply, indicating to me that people are travelling when convenient .
It would be nice to have some facts, as we can only assume. Cheers!
David Webb NB
Look at the arrivals
for Pearson tomorrow. You should know better than to trust the CBC to
point out our skies are still open.Reply to @Jim Rockfort (Spaceman ):
David Amos
Reply to @David Webb NB: Well did I sell you a bike or not?
Cyrus Manz
The USA is the epicentre of the pandemic.
Keep the border closed!
Rhea Montgomery
Reply to @Cyrus Manz:
At least they are now. And give it a week or two. Those demonstrations
will definitely help with a new spike.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Adaku Machie: Because its not true. It hasnt been proven it was hatched in a Chinese lab either.
Frank G. Castiglione
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Not proven yet, but its very concerning.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Frank G. Castiglione: Anything can be concerning..
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Adaku Machie: I am a liberal, not a far right supporter at all.
Adaku Machie
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: then why are you defending him. Trump caused this pandemic.
Frank G.
Castiglione
Reply to @Adaku Machie: China caused the pandemic. That is why Merkel sent them a bill for 111 billion dollars.
Richard Cheech
Reply to @Frank G.
Castiglione: Dr. Anthony Fauci dismissed suggestions that the virus had
been engineered. "There was a study recently that we can make available
to you where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked
at the sequences there and the sequences in bats as they evolve, and
the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is
totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to human,"
Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and infectious
diseases
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Adaku
Machie: Trump made it worse in the US, there is no doubt of that. But he
didnt cause the pandemic. It was caused by a virus.
Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Frank G. Castiglione: I wonder how long Germany will have to wait to be paid?
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