David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks these clowns are gonna regret dreaming bigger fines for the benefit of Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/04/nb-covid-19-roundup-province-reports-no.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-coronavirus-new-brunswick-legislature-sitting-1.5532243
Heftier fines for not following COVID-19 orders expected on agenda when House sits Friday
Liberal MLA says government is drafting new amendments for pandemic response
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 14, 2020 7:09 PM AT
The New Brunswick legislature will sit Friday for the first time in a month. (CBC)
The New Brunswick legislature will sit on Friday for the first time since it adjourned because of COVID-19 a month ago.
Speaker Daniel Guitard sent out a notice Tuesday afternoon that the House would sit at 11 a.m. on Friday "for the purpose of transacting its business."
"I have now consulted with the Government and Opposition House Leaders and am satisfied that the public interest requires that the House should now meet," it said.
The notice did not say what was on the agenda, but Liberal House leader Guy Arseneault said he's been told there will be amendments to the Emergency Measures Act to increase fines for people who violate physical distancing rules.
Speaker Daniel Guitard issued a notice Tuesday the House is to sit Friday morning. (Government of New Brunswick)
Another amendment to that act would extend some timelines for courts and tribunals, though Arseneault said he was not familiar with the details yet.
Another bill would amend the Employment Standards Act to protect employees who are required to self-isolate or stay home to care for family members with COVID-19.
MLAs were last in the chamber March 17 when a skeleton group voted to dispense with normal procedure and hurriedly passed legislation to postpone municipal elections and two provincial byelections.
On March 17, many members sat in desks other than their own to follow physical distancing guidelines, and they dropped routine business such as question period and member statements.
Arseneault said Friday's sitting will follow the same practice, though Green Leader David Coon said he hoped question period could take place.
Liberal MLA Guy Arseneault said the provincial government is expected to introduce legislative amendments as part its COVID-19 response. (Gary Moore/CBC)
Arseneault said the three opposition parties will be briefed and allowed to ask questions about the legislation ahead of time so that things can move quickly.
The Liberal, Green and People's Alliance leaders have been part of an all-party cabinet committee along with Premier Blaine Higgs and several key Progressive Conservative government cabinet ministers.
The committee has been consulted on all of the government's major pandemic measures
The one-hour sitting on March 17 came after a dramatic day on March 13, when MLAs agreed to bypass regular procedure to finish debating the provincial budget and pass it, along with two carbon-tax bills, in less than 18 minutes.
38 Comments
David Amos
Methinks these clowns are gonna regret dreaming bigger fines for the benefit of Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: And yet you talk of " clever lawyers " !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Go Figure
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
A police state you say? That's exactly what it has become, imo.
Gerry Ferguson
Reply to @David Amos: I agree 100% This police state bullcrap is ridiculous.
Jeff LeBlanc
Just because Blaine Higgs says something does not make it so.
David Amos
Reply to @Jeff
LeBlanc: Methinks Higgy knows why I have many reasons to believe nothing
he says particularly since he and his conservative cohorts sent me
Butter Tarts while I was suing the Queen N'esy Pas?
John Grail
Like the rest of the provinces, NB needs to pay for its Orwellian citizen surveillance somehow.
David Amos
Reply to @John Grail:
Methinks if there are any clever lawyers in the neighbourhood Higgy and
his snitches should get sued someday soon N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply
to @David Amos: The only thing they'll accomplish would be in filling
their pockets with someone elses money ! Maybe you need to change your
focus if you've been paying a " clever lawyer " all these years !
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you don't have the first clue as to who I am N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
A lawsuit against the establishment would make sense if the establishment weren't sitting in judgement...
David Amos
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
A lawsuit against the establishment would make sense if the establishment weren't sitting in judgement...
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Peters: What have your ever done other than criticize others?
Reply to @David Peters: What have your ever done other than criticize others?
the hefty fines should've been Canada wide to people not following the quarantine when it was around the world in January. this is fines on people who stayed home for months and decided that they needed to get out from their basement after 2 months.
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @stef dugay:
Methinks the Crown knows that I won't go quietly into the night if the
RCMP or any other corrupt cop harass me anymore. After all the nonsense
that went on since last fall and the federal election Higgy et al can
trust that I will be raising Hell AGAIN in Federal Court in short order
anyway N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @stef dugay: Too bad so sad that my reply to you went "Poof"
john smith
Reply to @David Amos: dont worry the good man in the privy council will soon be able to charge uyou if you dissent or question official narrative had that been the case their would be no treatment or sunlight until the loving billy fenceopening brings us a new inject
john smith
Reply to @David Amos: dont worry the good man in the privy council will soon be able to charge uyou if you dissent or question official narrative had that been the case their would be no treatment or sunlight until the loving billy fenceopening brings us a new inject
john smith
Reply to @john smith: by the way the projections of injured and dead from the so called cure is close to a million
David Amos
Reply to @john smith: Why is it I am not surprised?
David Peters
It appears that authoritarianism is more contagious than the coronavirus.
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Methinks you got the governments you deserve after making fun of my concerns N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Peters: 99 % of the people call it " intelligence " ! The other 1 % call it authoritarianism .
David Peters
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Can you back up those numbers with a source? ...or are they made up like the cdc numbers?
David Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Here is a number for you Federal Court File No. T-1557-15
John Grail
Reply to @Lou Bell: Telling people what to do is not intelligence. Nice try.
Dave Buote
How about some fines for the government that has totally failed to protect us?
stef dugay
Reply to @Dave Buote: they will find someone else to blame, they cannot be held accountable.
David Amos
Reply to @stef dugay: The Crown has lawsuits in the past
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Which it lost bigtime but we paid the freight
Lou Bell
Reply to @Dave Buote: Protect you from what ?? Please tell !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Trust that you would never understand
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks Higgy was very foolish indeed to allow his buddy to tease me about my not having a Medicare Card during his pandemic scare N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/04/nb-covid-19-roundup-province-reports-no.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-1.5531388
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province reports no new cases
So far, there are 116 cases of COVID-19 in the province
· CBC News · Posted: Apr 14, 2020 12:04 PM AT
The province recently released its COVID-19 projections, estimating between 550 and 1,750 people could die in the next 18 to 24 months. (NIAID-RML/The Associated Press/The Canadian Press)
There are no new cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, according to the province's chief medical officer of health.
The number of COVID-19 cases remains at 116 in the province.
"We're definitely moving in the right direction but we haven't reached our final destination," Dr. Jennifer Russell said at her regular briefing on Tuesday.
Earlier Tuesday, and infection control epidemiologist said New Brunswick could be on the verge of peaking in COVID-19 cases.
Colin Furness, a professor at the University of Toronto, said New Brunswick is managing to flatten its curve "incredibly well," but the province will likely see some deaths related to the virus.
"When death starts to happen and the proportion of cases that end up in deaths goes up, that means you're getting toward the end," Furness said.
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But New Brunswick could be unique, in that it has managed to avoid community spread relatively well, he said.
"It looks like you're through the peak and that you never got high community spread. And that although you can expect to see a few deaths, it's not going to be anywhere near what the provincial modelling numbers were saying last week."
The government released its COVID-19 projections last week, predicting between 550 and 1,750 people could die in the next 18 to 24 months.
Between 15 and 132 people could die this month alone, the projections suggested.
What happens over the next month will depend on how well the province restricts travel.
In the large-impact scenario, New Brunswick could experience up to 132 deaths by the end of April. (Government of New Brunswick)
"How New Brunswick handles new cases coming into [the province], I think is the big determinant," he said.
But Furness also said it's difficult for Canada, or any country, to determine how low numbers need to be so governments can lift restrictions.
The acute care hospitalizations, illustrated here, and other projections, show potential outcomes up to April 30, beyond which the government says modelling become less reliable. (Government of New Brunswick)
About one-third of all cases never show symptoms, which makes it difficult to know when it's safe to ease emergency measures.
"It's cause for concern that we're testing in a way that doesn't match the way the virus works."
Here is a roundup of other developments.
Why Saint John reinstated bus and parking fees
The City of Saint John says it has been forced to reinstate bus fares and parking regulations, after they were suspended last month because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Mayor Don Darling said Tuesday that bus fares had to be reintroduced because the city's financial situation is impossible to maintain otherwise.
"Fare collection was suspended because we didn't have a mechanism to collect it in a safe way," Darling said.
Beginning Tuesday, bus fares will be collected through Plexiglas barriers.
"We simply cannot afford to not collect some level of fare for the bus," Darling said.
Potential financial losses from transit alone would have reached up to $1 million if the fare had continued to be free.
Plexiglas barriers are still being installed on all city buses. On buses with barriers, passengers must enter through the front door to pay the fare.
Premier Blaine Higgs said a total of 17 tickets were issued over the past week to people not complying with the province's emergency order. (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)
Passengers are not required to pay a fare on the buses that don't have Plexiglas. On those buses, passengers should enter through the rear door.
March bus passes are valid for the month of April.
There are 116 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. (CBC)
The Saint John Parking Commission has started enforcing on and off street parking regulations, including alternate-side parking, accessible parking, and monthly parking.
Market Square and Peel Plaza are operational and fee collection has also resumed.
Students transitioning to online learning
Teachers are reaching out to students this week to lay out the final 10 weeks of classes, if they haven't already.The Anglophone West School District conducted a telephone survey to find out how many students don't have access to reliable technology or stable internet for online learning. About 200 of the 8,600 people who responded don't have adequate access.
David McTimoney, superintendent of the Anglophone West School District, said the district will stay in touch with those students over the phone.
He said he has been working on preparations for online coursework with teachers and collaborating with other superintendents.
"We're ready to roll ahead with that continuity of learning and looking forward to it," McTimoney said.
"We want to make sure students aren't disadvantaged when it comes to rolling out [the work]."
What to do if you have symptoms?
People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website. Symptoms of coronavirus include fever, a new or worsening cough, and breathlessness, as well as sore throat, headache and runny nose. People with two of those symptoms are asked to:- Stay at home.
- Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
- Describe symptoms and travel history.
- Follow instructions carefully.
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David Amos
Methinks I have the right to ask Higgy what he plans to do with me if COVID-19 finds me without a Medicare Card N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Don't tell us , tell Higgs ! Social media is where one should go if they wish to spout off at the mouth about anything and everything about their own personal lives . This is a news outlet !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks my taxes pays for this place for you to post your nonsense N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you even know how many of your words went "Poof" over the past week? Trust that I do
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: And if that's the case , no wonder you're being watched so closely ! THINK ABOUT IT !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: You truly have no clue as to why i sued the Queen do ya?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
BTW I was referring to your words that went "Poof" not mine Methinks a
lot of liberals would agree that was some pretty comical BS about Shawn
Graham and the Hanwel lN'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Actually it was under the Cons . My mistake , it was Alward , not
Graham . Graham and the SANB Libs are the " giveaway kings " !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: I am the one who caught your BS and it all went "Poof" REMEMBER????
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Whereas you took it upon yourself to preach to me of Social media
Methinks you should Google your name and mine sometime to review what
went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Naw , I'm mentally tough enough to not let it bother me , unlike some others .
David Amos
Methinks Higgy was very foolish indeed to allow his buddy to tease me about my not having a Medicare Card during his pandemic scare N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Do you get denied service? But you get a bill. And you promptly pay I'm sure. Last time I checked half of nothing is still nothing N'esy Pas? A leech on the system but hate it all the way to the grave, how warm am I??
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: A leech on the system??? Oh My My
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Methinks you should ask Higgy et al if I have ever taken one dime of
welfare or EI and whether or not I pay my Health Care bills, my
property taxes and my NB Power bills in a timely fashion N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Methinks we should not forget the"Poofed" thread in which you bragged
that I had taken your bait today or the one yesterday in which I said
about why you were not TJ because of you Freudian Slip As I said 2 days
ago anyone can Google "T.J. Burke letter played like a fiddle" to
review how I love playing corrupt cops and lawyers like a fiddle N'esy
Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks Higgy et al
should Google "T.J. Burke letter played like a fiddle" to review how I
love playing corrupt cops and lawyers like a fiddle N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Go Figure
Ray Oliver: "I do know one thing. You take the bait every single time."
A Little Deja Vu for Higgy et al
"T.J. Burke letter played like a fiddle"
David Amos
Methinks these clowns are gonna regret dreaming up bigger fines for the benefit of Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?
"Heftier fines for not following COVID-19 orders expected on agenda when House sits Friday"
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: If people aren't smart enough to isolate and social distance , HIT 'EM IN THE WALLET !!! Or tell us how YOU would handle it . Other than incessant harassment I suspect you've noting else to offer .
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: "incessant harassment" Please have your hero Higgy explain your statement
David Amos
Methinks
it is interesting that Higgy answers the French questions in English I
bet that upsets Mr Comeau and his cohorts N'esy Pas?
Rob Sense
Reply to @David Amos:
if your english question was answered in french i bet that would upset you.
if your english question was answered in french i bet that would upset you.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Rob Sense: everything upsets him. Hopefully it won't trigger an episode and start into a govt emailing fury.
David Amos
Reply
to @Rob Sense: Methinks some folks would understand why common sense is
telling me that you are not whom you purport to be Hence you are not
being sincere N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks just yesterday you begged me for an email and admitted that you enjoyed reading them N'esy Pas?
Ray OliverThey're a riot. You play that game totally the wrong way. They won't take someone serious who uses nicknames and the tone you take. Be polite. Be concise. Lay out the facts. Get them were you want them then put the screws to them smiling the entire time. Name calling will just get your hunt for justice thrown in the Spam folder whether you have the "goods" or not.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks the RCMP and Higgy can't deny you read them N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Yea Right Tell me another one Higgy
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Isn't that what politics is all about? The guy with the best "story" is a hero?
Isn't that what politics is all about? The guy with the best "story" is a hero?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I know one thing he will never tell ya. Here is your Medicare card David! Haha
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I doubt your hero Higgy finds it not so funny anymore
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: No I'm sure hes having a good laugh. I know I am
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks many folks won't find what Higgy says so funny N'esy Pas?
"Premier Blaine Higgs says emergency officials have factored COVID-19 into potential flooding plans. He cited plans for physical distancing and the use of masks if sandbagging is required.
Water levels are expected to surpass flood stage in some parts of the province this week.
Higgs asked residents in flood-prone areas to remain vigilant. And if they are forced to leave their homes, he said they cannot stay with friends or family because of the requirement for physical distancing."
Heather Michon
Meanwhile Higgs has decided that long-term care homes don't need any extra assistance. Residents were moved from hospitals to long term care homes without being tested first so have to be kept in isolation for 14 days which depletes the PPE in each home. Apparently our most vulnerable are not that important to him.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Heather Michon: Have you proof they weren't tested ? Please tell us your sources . Is this all you've got to complain about ?
Randall Gagnon
I am interested and concerned with how many people are in the Hospital, in ICU and have died do to the China Virus. If everyone is following social distancing who cares how many people are tested, if they are not sick enough to go to the hospital and not moisting anyone else don't waste the resources to test.
Personally I think its time to start testing who has HAD the virus, not who HAS the virus. This might stop some of the fear pandemic, and provide some useful statistics.
Jacob Minton
Rudy Hicks
Time to invite people to be tested. Start with front-line workers? Random samples? We need more data.
David Amos
Marie Robichaud
So, if there's no "demand" can they now test my son to see if that's what he had , since at the time they were only testing people who travelled.....
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Oh My My Look who is calling people nervous nellies
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: I'm not the one crying for testing. I'm highly comfortable with the isolating and social distancing . You seem to be all over the place , including " where's my Medicare Card " !
mike huffman
The globalization is main source of problems in our society and moreover ,addiction and dependency to the cheap obsolescence and made to fail product (as we do not make anything any more) and open borders to let epidemic taken over country in short time and ignoring The Canadian Medical Army Core Intelligence Report To Simple minded politicians as virus was spreading in china in November and December!The Black Death began in the china also in (1300 AD to 1660 AD )and spread rapidly by travelers via silk road and it is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe's population
Lou Bell
Reply to @mike huffman: I imagine they were out to get the U.S. back then too !!!!!!!!!!!! Probably around 1350 or so , wouldn't you say !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Conspiracy theorists , the joke that keeps on giving !!!!!!!!
David Amos
Terry Hughes
Reply to @David Amos: YUP !!!!
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Hughes: Methinks I should be happy that you are enjoying my two bits worth at the circus N'esy Pas? Say Hey to the Clowns Higgy, Davey, Krissy and Vicky for me will ya?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks many folks won't find what Higgy says so funny N'esy Pas?
"Premier Blaine Higgs says emergency officials have factored COVID-19 into potential flooding plans. He cited plans for physical distancing and the use of masks if sandbagging is required.
Water levels are expected to surpass flood stage in some parts of the province this week.
Higgs asked residents in flood-prone areas to remain vigilant. And if they are forced to leave their homes, he said they cannot stay with friends or family because of the requirement for physical distancing."
Heather Michon
Meanwhile Higgs has decided that long-term care homes don't need any extra assistance. Residents were moved from hospitals to long term care homes without being tested first so have to be kept in isolation for 14 days which depletes the PPE in each home. Apparently our most vulnerable are not that important to him.
val harris
Reply to @Heather
Michon: Our premier has done a great job on the virus front but now he
has to stop thinking of his budget and worry about our small businesses
and front line healthcare workers and if he doesn’t shame on him
David Amos
Reply to @Heather
Michon: I agree Methinks Higgy considers old folks like me a drain on
his precious budget Perhaps that why he won't give back my Medicare Card
N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Heather Michon: Have you proof they weren't tested ? Please tell us your sources . Is this all you've got to complain about ?
Randall Gagnon
I am interested and concerned with how many people are in the Hospital, in ICU and have died do to the China Virus. If everyone is following social distancing who cares how many people are tested, if they are not sick enough to go to the hospital and not moisting anyone else don't waste the resources to test.
Personally I think its time to start testing who has HAD the virus, not who HAS the virus. This might stop some of the fear pandemic, and provide some useful statistics.
Jacob Minton
Reply to @Randall Gagnon: "China Virus"? Someone's been tuning in to Channel Trump.
The virus is coronavirus, the disease is COVID-19. Other names are somebody's propaganda.
The virus is coronavirus, the disease is COVID-19. Other names are somebody's propaganda.
Randall Gagnon
Reply to @Jacob
Minton: We share come common ground apparently, if your biggest concern
is my representation of this plaque. And not to split hairs, but
technically the virus is "a" coronavirus saying this one is "The"
coronvirus is less accurate than me calling it the China Virus
David Amos
Reply to @Randall Gagnon: Methinks such testing would not pay dividends to Higgy and his pension plans N'esy Pas?
Rudy Hicks
Time to invite people to be tested. Start with front-line workers? Random samples? We need more data.
David Amos
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: Why? Nobody has died.
Marie Robichaud
So, if there's no "demand" can they now test my son to see if that's what he had , since at the time they were only testing people who travelled.....
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marie
Robichaud: Actually they were testing people who showed signs of the
virus , not just the sniffles mind you , and whose symptoms were
worsening . Too many " nervous nellies " !!
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks it interesting that after a pile of your nasty comments go
"Poof" you proceed to make a fool of yourself some more N'esy Pas? David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Oh My My Look who is calling people nervous nellies
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: I'm not the one crying for testing. I'm highly comfortable with the isolating and social distancing . You seem to be all over the place , including " where's my Medicare Card " !
mike huffman
The globalization is main source of problems in our society and moreover ,addiction and dependency to the cheap obsolescence and made to fail product (as we do not make anything any more) and open borders to let epidemic taken over country in short time and ignoring The Canadian Medical Army Core Intelligence Report To Simple minded politicians as virus was spreading in china in November and December!The Black Death began in the china also in (1300 AD to 1660 AD )and spread rapidly by travelers via silk road and it is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe's population
Georges Saint Yves
Reply to @mike huffman: Manufactured crisis.
David Amos
Reply to @Georges Saint Yves: YUP
Lou Bell
Reply to @mike huffman: I imagine they were out to get the U.S. back then too !!!!!!!!!!!! Probably around 1350 or so , wouldn't you say !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Conspiracy theorists , the joke that keeps on giving !!!!!!!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Oh My My Now I am a Joke?
Terry Hughes
Reply to @David Amos: YUP !!!!
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Terry Hughes: Methinks it beats being corrupt N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Hughes: Methinks I should be happy that you are enjoying my two bits worth at the circus N'esy Pas? Say Hey to the Clowns Higgy, Davey, Krissy and Vicky for me will ya?
Louis Leblanc
NB has done a great job up until now. We've also been lucky. We need to keep it up for a few weeks.
James Risdon
Reply to @Louis Leblanc: I predict Canada will be over 95 per cent of this Covid-19 pandemic by June 24.
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks you are being redundant N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @James Risdon: Your jokes are so funny !!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Yours are NOT
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Louis Leblanc:
I suspect very little of your former and a LOT of your latter. I also suspect it may be a lot longer than a "few weeks".
SarahRose Werner
The number of calls to the 811 line may have tripled, but if 200 people are waiting on hold at any given time, I have to wonder how many people just said the heck with it, hung up and did rest-and-fluids on their own without being tested. Might this be one reason that the province has tested only 250 people in the past 24 hours?
James Risdon
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Is it so beyond the realm of possibility to think that maybe,
just maybe, New Brunswick is just doing things right and keeping the
spread of Covid-19 at bay?
Why can't we be better than the rest of Canada at just one thing?
Why can't we be better than the rest of Canada at just one thing?
SarahRose
Werner
Reply to @James
Risdon: That's entirely within the realm of possibility, although I'd
say that PEI is right up there with NB for the title of "better than the
rest of Canada." But it's also within the realm of possibility that
when you have 200 people on hold, some number of them are going to give
up and hang up.
James Risdon
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Speculation serves no purpose. When you have evidence that New
Brunswick is serving people less well than other places in Canada with
regards to Covid-19, let me know.
Until then, it's all just so much hand-wringing and worrying about something without a shred of evidence. It serves no purpose.
Until then, it's all just so much hand-wringing and worrying about something without a shred of evidence. It serves no purpose.
Mac Isaac
Reply to @James
Risdon: Holy cow Mr. Risdon! THIS is actually the first time I think
I've ever agreed with something you wrote. To me that's remarkable. Keep
up the good work and another plausible response to Ms Werner's point
could be that maybe those people calling share a characteristic of
hypochondria and rational thought caused them to hang up. I frequently
have a scratchy throat (pre-covid-19 and, in fact pre-2000!) as well as
the occasional cough and my own hypochondria has more than once caused
me to call my doctor for an appointment. Most times it has turned out to
be the result of night time snoring!
Like you, M. Risdon, I prefer to think and hope that New Brunswick will escape the illness and death of other locations and that our own estimates turn out to be overly pessimistic!
Like you, M. Risdon, I prefer to think and hope that New Brunswick will escape the illness and death of other locations and that our own estimates turn out to be overly pessimistic!
David Amos
Reply to @James
Risdon: Methinks old folks in other province have free health care but
your buddy Higgy won't give me back my Medicare Card because like you he
pretends to not know who I am N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Who are you ?? We all should know . It appears only Mr. Oliver knows !! Are the people who signed your nomination papers real ?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Who is your clever lawyer?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: DUHHH??? Of course the nomination papers were for real.
Methinks even your hero Higgy would verify that Elections Canada and Election NB check such things very closely N'esy Pas?
That said I must ask does your lawyer agree with this statement of your buddy?
I posted below
Methinks Higgy was very foolish indeed to allow his buddy to tease me about my not having a Medicare Card during his pandemic scare N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Do you get denied service? But you get a bill. And you promptly pay I'm sure. Last time I checked half of nothing is still nothing N'esy Pas? A leech on the system but hate it all the way to the grave, how warm am I??
Methinks even your hero Higgy would verify that Elections Canada and Election NB check such things very closely N'esy Pas?
That said I must ask does your lawyer agree with this statement of your buddy?
I posted below
Methinks Higgy was very foolish indeed to allow his buddy to tease me about my not having a Medicare Card during his pandemic scare N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Do you get denied service? But you get a bill. And you promptly pay I'm sure. Last time I checked half of nothing is still nothing N'esy Pas? A leech on the system but hate it all the way to the grave, how warm am I??
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @James Risdon:
So says the king of speculation.
Jenjiyo phriendjiyo
Reply to @SarahRose
Werner: Yes. It's strange to me that calls have tripled Which means up
to 3000 calls a day and yet they've only tested 250 people in the last
24hrs. I can't help but wonder if this is some kind of political ploy.
"Look at what a great job Higgs has done in N.B! Boy those covid numbers
are low". We know this is being spread by asymptomatic people so right
off the bat we're missing a huge chunk of cases that could be
confirmed. It's a dangerous game they're playing, this gives people a
false sense of safety. It makes this less real for a lot of people.
With our small population we could be doing what Iceland did ( test as
much as possible) and in turn help to better understand the virus. It
was only a week ago we started testing people who hadn't travelled or
had contact with travelers, wth is that?
James Risdon
Canada has already passed the peak of this pandemic and I expect 95 per cent of this to be wrapped up by June 24.
Bob Smith
Reply to @James
Risdon: Nothing is wrapped up until there is a viable vaccine available.
Relaxation of certain measures may be coming but other parts of society
may stay changed for some time...
June Arnott
Reply to @James Risdon: not according to the experts of the WHO. But thank you for your thoughts Dr.
Chris McNee
Reply to @James Risdon: Nope. As long as theirs no vaccine it’s around. HIV still has no vaccine
James Risdon
Reply to @June Arnott: I never purported to be physician. I am just someone who can read and think.
Of course, an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. If you disagree with my conclusion, it would be more logical to address the specific points with which you disagree rather than attempt to suggest that my conclusion is invalid simply because I am not a medical authority.
Of course, an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. If you disagree with my conclusion, it would be more logical to address the specific points with which you disagree rather than attempt to suggest that my conclusion is invalid simply because I am not a medical authority.
James Risdon
Reply to @Chris McNee: I never claimed Covid-19 would be wiped out by then. I said it would be 95 per cent over.
Read carefully.
Read carefully.
John Holmes
Reply to @James
Risdon: With as many as 1 in 3 being carriers that never manifest
symptoms, this won't be over until we test every single citizen and
develop a vaccine or it will just keep looping again and again.
James Risdon
Reply to @John Holmes: On what basis do you conclude that one in three Canadians is a carrier of Covid-19?
Gabriel
Boucher
Reply to @James Risdon:
I'm not sure where you're pulling these numbers from. I'm assuming that June 24th is referring to the summer days ahead and you're hoping that the virus will be killed by exposure to heat. What I will say to that is to look at countries south of the equator like Australia and New Zealand. Heat did not save them from transmission.
I'm not sure where you're pulling these numbers from. I'm assuming that June 24th is referring to the summer days ahead and you're hoping that the virus will be killed by exposure to heat. What I will say to that is to look at countries south of the equator like Australia and New Zealand. Heat did not save them from transmission.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: On what basis did you select 95% and by the very specific date
of June 24th? You think pretty highly of yourself dont you
James Risdon
Reply to @Gabriel
Boucher: I am looking at the numbers for the daily increase in cases of
Covid-19 in Canada, as reported by the CBC and Macleans magazine. Both
of those graphs show the rate at which new cases are appearing hit a
peak on Wednesday last week and is now declining.
That's the leading indicator of this pandemic. The total number of cases is a trailing indicator, but it's the one number everyone freaks out over. The reason the total number of cases is a trailing indicator is because it takes time for these people to either heal or die.
The rate of new cases, however, is a leading indicator. Roughly two weeks after we see a decline in the rate of new cases, we will see a drop in the total number of cases as the people who heal or die after being infected outstrip the number of new people being infected.
Working on the assumption that the distribution of the cases is essentially a bell shape and projecting forward from the number of weeks we've already had Covid-19, I predict the total number of cases reach the low, trailing levels on June 24
That's the leading indicator of this pandemic. The total number of cases is a trailing indicator, but it's the one number everyone freaks out over. The reason the total number of cases is a trailing indicator is because it takes time for these people to either heal or die.
The rate of new cases, however, is a leading indicator. Roughly two weeks after we see a decline in the rate of new cases, we will see a drop in the total number of cases as the people who heal or die after being infected outstrip the number of new people being infected.
Working on the assumption that the distribution of the cases is essentially a bell shape and projecting forward from the number of weeks we've already had Covid-19, I predict the total number of cases reach the low, trailing levels on June 24
James Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver: If you look at the reply I just wrote for Gabriel Boucher, it should answer your question.
And, yes, I suppose I do. I'd be a fool to think otherwise.
And, yes, I suppose I do. I'd be a fool to think otherwise.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: How modest and humble of you. Must be such a pleasure to be
around. LOL people probably have no problem socially distancing around
you
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks I see see two fools who deserve each other N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You see see them do ya? Who's a smart boy
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Not you fool
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: A genius in his own mind. The voices tell him so EH!!!
James
Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I am not everyone's cup of tea. But, then again, who is?
James
Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Ray, if you have an intelligent objection to anything I have stated, I
am happy to consider it. It does not you any favours to come across as
mocking people simply because you disagree with them without so much as
putting forth a rational, reasonable statement for your disagreement.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: Well until a vaccine is developed this will linger. Herd
immunity for healthy individuals not in the risk category is the only
way to return to some sense of "normalcy". The emergency was placed so
as not to overwhelm the health care industry. NB has been successful to
date. Loosen restrictions and start antibody testing but keep those
borders closed. Our efforts in NB should not be nullified by Ontario and
the likes still struggling. There, my view minus the sarcasm.
Chris McNee
Reply to @James
Risdon: I did read carefully. So we currently have 116 confirmed cases,
therefor by your figure we will have only 5 or 6 cases by June 24th?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: I can't put dates and percentages on it. Even the experts are
guessing. Our predictions in NB last week had a wide wide scope. I found
it comical actually. Polling numbers on such a fickle virus where one
funeral alone in NFLD passed it to what, 100 others? How does one put
some accurate numbers behind something like that. Ya can't.
James
Risdon
Reply to @Chris McNee: My prediction is for Canada as a whole.
James
Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Have you read the explanation I provided to Gabriel?
David Amos
Reply to @Chris
McNee: Methinks you should ask Higgy and his cohorts what happened at
Chucky Leblanc's beloved "Old Maison" in Fat Fred City on June 24th,
2004. I trust that we may rest assured that a former Irving journalist
who later ran under the banner of the KISS Party in the last election
never will N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: All it takes is one person to blow it all wide open again. But I
hope your math is right. Heck even sooner be great
James Risdon
Reply to @David Amos: I have no idea what it is that you're yammering about.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Sorry I mean a pimple on the ar*e of the political scene. A nuisance
James Risdon
Reply to @David Amos: Given your earlier statement, I wouldn't know what to ask anyone. I have no idea what the heck you're talking about.
You seem to be suggesting that I should care about something that happened to a blogger back in 2004 in Fredericton when I never lived in Fredericton, never worked in Fredericton, and have had almost no contact with that blogger.
Premier Blaine Higgs and I are not close buddies - and neither are the Irvings calling me up every week to keep in touch and reminisce about old times.
Whatever bizarre conspiracy or fantasy you have concocted, it's beyond me.
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks your old buddy JJ Carrier can always fill in your cacant mind. He had been covering elections in N.B. since 1987 N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I drew upon statements you made in your blog and teased you regarding its contents. Never once have I made up a false concocted defamatory statement from which you hadn't already written in your blog either an old chain of emails or whatever may be there.
David Amos
James Risdon
Reply to @David Amos: I have no idea what it is that you're yammering about.
Chris McNee
Reply to @James
Risdon: I agree, if one disagree and raises a different point of view
that’s decent, but no need for people to offer unneeded rude replies.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: I think he thinks he knows you and you should remember him. Hes a
big time player in the political uprising, you didn't get the memo?
James
Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I must be out of the loop. ;-)
David Amos
Reply to @James
Risdon: Methinks If you wish to continue to play dumb after all these
years why not ask your former Party leader or your former Irving bosses
or your new pen pal N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: Sorry I mean a pimple on the ar*e of the political scene. A nuisance
James Risdon
Reply to @David Amos: Given your earlier statement, I wouldn't know what to ask anyone. I have no idea what the heck you're talking about.
You seem to be suggesting that I should care about something that happened to a blogger back in 2004 in Fredericton when I never lived in Fredericton, never worked in Fredericton, and have had almost no contact with that blogger.
Premier Blaine Higgs and I are not close buddies - and neither are the Irvings calling me up every week to keep in touch and reminisce about old times.
Whatever bizarre conspiracy or fantasy you have concocted, it's beyond me.
James
Risdon
Reply to @David Amos: By the way, who the heck is supposed to be my new pen pal?
James
Risdon
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
I suppose I should be flattered that anyone thinks I have some kind of
pull with the premier and the Irvings ..
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James
Risdon: Anytime 2 separate people disagree with his bullying or
viewpoint on here within the same conversation they're automatically pen
pals or best buddies. I've made about 5 of them this week in his own
mind. Or should I say multiple minds
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: I am referring to Gerald Bourque and myself not Chucky Leblanc and his pals.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Nobody can be as dumb as you two pretend to be but trust that I am up for your wicked little game
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks your old buddy JJ Carrier can always fill in your cacant mind. He had been covering elections in N.B. since 1987 N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
How can you spin us into your theory with the wire taps and bankers and
CEOs, and who can forget your jaw-dropping evidence to take down a
sitting US president. I'm excited for the next episode!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Me thinks your imprisonment in the US when you threaten the most
powerful man in the world with your roundabout gibberish claims was more
than justified. Even you should realize you went too far with that one.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you have no idea how much trouble you have put yourself in N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: By calling your out on your more than public blog that you try to refer every reader on here to view?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I'm giving you the attention you want. Be grateful.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Libel
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Check Section 300 of the Criminal Code
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
So your case is to pursue a civil libel case against someone for the
very type of thing the plaintiff does on here and has for years? Hmmm..
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Section 300 is a Criminal Matter
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
And how many times have you slandered Premier Higgs or anyone else for
that matter, especially regarding your Medicare card?
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I did try to give you fair warning and you know where to find all my replies
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: The RCMP know this is not my fault EH Higgy?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I drew upon statements you made in your blog and teased you regarding its contents. Never once have I made up a false concocted defamatory statement from which you hadn't already written in your blog either an old chain of emails or whatever may be there.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Say Hey to the RCMP for me will ya?
Johnny Almar
We will open back up when Donald Trump says so. Yes we will follow the US lead on this.
Brian Decker
Reply to @Johnny Almar: I personally have WAY more faith in Canadians than that!
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Decker: Your hero Higgy knows why I don't
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
Because an individual leans a certain way politically for party values
doesn't mean "Higgy" is his hero. You dont have faith in anything except
your theories
Brian Decker
Reply to @David Amos:
I'm sure Premier Higgs knows that you are from another solar system
and what you feel about Canada is irrelevant.
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Decker: Who are you really???
Brian Decker
Reply to @David Amos:
Someone who is proud of New Brunswick and no matter what my political
leanings are, can give credit where credit is due and appreciates the
way that our elected officials et al are handling this situation. I'm
also quite proud of most of my fellow New Brunswicker's for the
seriousness with which they are treating this situation and trying to
bring this to some sort of eventual end or at least retreat. I am not a
person who finds fault with absolutely everything. I try to do my part
and contribute to the solution. Now let's talk about you.........nah
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Brian Decker: Well said! Awaiting an intelligent rebuttal but I won't hold my breath
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Decker: Why don't you use your real name???
Brian Decker
Reply to @David Amos: I am DS
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Decker: BS
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Decker: DS has more class than you
mike huffman
This
is just the beginning! Stuck in the house over 30 days and getting
crazy! This is a result of Globalization, Greedy Corporations and Short
minded self serving Politicians in charge of world affairs! We deserve
what we get, as we elect these people .Stuck in the house over 30 days
and getting crazy.As a result of Globalization, cheap useless short life
span goods and staggering high profits for corporations! The world is
changing more and more with faster speed than we expected! More disaster
and natural events are happening more rapidly and often than ever
expected! As people have very short memories It will repeat itself over
and over again. After this is over new diseases will come again and we
are not prepared to face new challenges. Politicians should stop taking
money from corporations to get elected! Stop running Corproment
(Corporate Controlled Governments)! Stop putting big corporations before
the peoples lives! Stop destroying the environments in the name of the
economy!
Ray Oliver
Reply to @mike huffman: You should meet David. I feel like you'd become fast friends
Carlos Urtubia
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
Well...it's not totally wrong...we should be more self sufficient than
bringing everything from China. Good thing that in NB not a lot of
people comes.
June Arnott
Reply to @Ray Oliver: he is right though. Sad you can’t see that
Ray Oliver
Reply to @June Arnott: I do it was his delivery. Rant style. David's specialty.
June Arnott
Reply to @mike
huffman: true but people are like zombies and forget what life is, that
we need clean water to live, and balance.
Tom Simmons
Reply to @mike
huffman: Unless that is the plan, to destroy western world and enslave
us all...or worse....Georgia Guide Stones..
June Arnott
Reply to @Ray Oliver: oh ok, thankful. Ya, Amos does tend to rant. Pretty funny.
Ray Oliver
Reply to @June Arnott: I posted something very similar but mine went "poof" to quote a certain person
June Arnott
Reply to @Ray Oliver: too funny
Ian Scott
Reply to @mike
huffman: Another Greta bring it all to a halt . People have short
memories alright. Floods have always been here, storms happen. Idiots
build on flood plains and put trails where they get torn up and
boardwalks right on ocean edge. Corporate donations are already limited,
you should look at union directives to members as to who says what and
where to personally donate . They fly on the who is giving us more money
hell with everything else.So maybe take a look at public service just
as much as corporations.There are only a few big ones. The rest are
small business , the best at employment and innovation.
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: Why is it I am not laughing at your malicious nonsense?
David Amos
Reply to @mike huffman: How do you do
Jim Cyr
Reply
to @mike huffman: Spot on. We got our cheap TVs,
alright........Unfortunately, those cheap TVs (as an example) ended up
costing us a total shutdown of society for three or four months, and
thousands of deaths.
Paul Estey
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
dont forget everyone the goods that go to those overseas markets from
Canada....we are in a Global network and that is only going to increase
in the years to come....without this trade think where we would be...in
worse shape than we currently are...
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Paul Estey:
Globalism and One-Worldism benefits the Elite............hugely. It
crushes every one else, in the end. A little coronavirus,
scarecrow??........
Jim Johnston
Reply to @Jim Cyr: For you information tvs have not been made in Canada since the early 70s. They were all being made in the Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia.
James Risdon
Reply to @mike huffman: Corporations aren't particularly greedier than anyone else.
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: So says a former employee of the Irving Clan
Kevin Chaulk
Seems a little odd, are they testing many people there. NB surrounded by Quebec (14,248) NS (517) and Maine (734) all with much higher cases...so what gives?
David Amos
Reply to @Kevin Chaulk: Methinks you should ask Higgy's buddy Ray Oliver because he thinks he knows everything N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I do know one thing. You take the bait every single time.
Reply to @David Amos: I do know one thing. You take the bait every single time.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver:" I know one thing he will never tell ya. Here is your Medicare card David! Haha"
Methinks if you did not have a Medicare Card you would not be laughing N'esy Pas?
Methinks if you did not have a Medicare Card you would not be laughing N'esy Pas?
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos:
I'm sure there is a very valid reason for it. You're not the sole
individual in NB I'm sure in this position and it's of your own creation
Carlos
Urtubia
Reply to @Kevin
Chaulk: The areas closer to NB almost don't have cases. Maine's counties
around NB had 1 case each. The QB areas on the north are also miles
away from any bigger city...you need to go hours from Edmunston to
Riviere du loup...
QB cases are mainly in Montreal, Maine cases are mainly on the south....
QB cases are mainly in Montreal, Maine cases are mainly on the south....
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: BS
Johnny Almar
Reply to @Carlos
Urtubia: A lot of it has to do with US & provincial border shut
downs. If we had of done the same to air traffic & cruise ships
earlier we may have done even better.
Still though, we know we are in this for at least another two weeks. So time to hammer down and stay away from people
Still though, we know we are in this for at least another two weeks. So time to hammer down and stay away from people
Bo Zam
Reply to @Ray Oliver: And i thought they banned fishing season... Seems the big mouth bass are biting :)
June
Arnott
Reply to @Kevin Chaulk: correct,they were not testing many, now that might change with the new guidelines
Kevin
Chaulk
Reply to @June
Arnott: Several provinces with low numbers are doing very little
testing, NB, NL, MB, and SK. Especially in areas outside of the cities
and larger towns.
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Kevin
Chaulk: Good leadership from the start. On the other hand, my state,
Maine, has a liberal governor who appointed a terrible state CDC
director (with a very checkered past.............When he was in a
similar position in Illinois, he failed to contain Legionnaire's Disease
when it spread through The State Veteran's Nursing Home for years,
while trying to cover it up and not let even families know it was
happening. 13 people died....) The governor and Maine CDC director
both made it clear from the start that they would NOT do anything as
"draconian" and "mean" as what Higgs did................it was more
important to be "nice and welcoming" than to attack the pandemic. (They
actually said that). SMH. So we ended up importing tons of cases
from Massachusetts and NY......but we did make a polite request to
"PLEASE don't go around other people.....". Sometimes I wish that my
part of the start (northern Maine) was part of NB.............
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Carlos Urtubia: Correct. My county in Maine has had two cases for the last week. And it's a huge county.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Kevin
Chaulk: Population is a large factor. Nb, with 15 cases per 100,000
people, looks like PEI (16 per 100,000) or Manitoba (18). Saskatchewan
has 26, Newfoundland & Labrador 47, Maine 47 and Nova Scotia 54.
Quebec is a disaster, with more cases than Ontario even though it's got a
smaller population.
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Who should care about Yankees when they don't care about us???
David Amos
Reply to @Bo Zam: Who has the big mouth?
Vernon McPhee
Reply to @Carlos Urtubia: And I finally saw some detail numbers on NS and Cumberland Health Authority had no cases as well. Being far from Halifax has finally paid off.
James Risdon
Reply to @Kevin Chaulk: We're less densely populated. We have more fresh air and cleaner water. And we're better looking.
Kevin Chaulk
Reply to @James Risdon: Don't forget to tell your imaginary friend that.
James Risdon
Reply to @Kevin Chaulk: I have a lot of imaginary friends. Which one are we talking about?
David Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks Higgy should tell you that your friend Ray is not who you think he is N'esy Pas?
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